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She's all jacked up about the action hoe. Adam Curry.

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John C. Devorah. It's Sunday, May 17th, 2026. This is

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your award-winning Get My Nation Media assassination episode 1869. This

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is no agenda. Doing the Bangaranga! Broadcasting live from the

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heart of the Texas O'Connor. In the morning, everybody, I'm

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Adam Kupf. And from Refinery Row, where everybody's happy that

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Bill Cassidy's finally out, I'm John C. Dvorak. *In the

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morn-* Hey, man, the gloves are coming off. Gloves are

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coming off. I don't care how, you know, if they

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cut your chest open, the gloves are off. I cannot

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believe. that for 18 years, One thing has been my

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segment. One thing. You need to come in. With a

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series of four clips about Eurovision. Yeah, after you poached

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and poached and poached, I got sick of it. What

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did I poach? You know, everything. I've... Well, we do

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this every single year. We're always very- And we nailed

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it again. We did? I think we forgot to nail

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it. We completely forgot to predict. But okay. It's a

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good thing. But okay. I will, yes, because we probably

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would have corrected, predicted incorrectly. But I will relent. I

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will allow you. graciously. to roll out whatever you think

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is important about this year's Eurovision Song Contest. Well, it's

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funny you should ask. Now... First of all, this is

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the 70th anniversary. Big deal. I mean, 75 would have

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been better, but yeah, yeah. Yep, yep. 70 is a

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big deal. Yeah, 75 is better. 100 is even better.

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But 70, you know, you know, it's... Now, since you're

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doing this segment, first of all, did we have any

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transsexuals this year in the contest? No, they were all

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transsexuals. Yeah? Okay. So let's say that this is a

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PBS report. or I'm sorry, NPR report. So I thought

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it was kind of entertaining because they actually... in an

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offhanded way predicted the winner even though it was the

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long shot in the way it was presented. But let's

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listen to it. And the guys, they're very enthusiastic. Let's

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go with Eurovision 70 Years. That's clip number one. Let

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the- The Eurovision Song Contest begins! 70 years old still

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as glamorous as ever the final song contest is in

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full swing in vienna you heard three of the early

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entries denmark germany and israel and it's said to be

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the non-sporting event with the biggest global audience so if

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you're not listening to news hour you are probably watching

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it or is this npr Yeah. With a British guy?

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Yeah. You're doing both at the same time. Let's speak

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now to someone who is going to do that. William

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Lee Adams, BBC journalist, founder of WeWeBlogs, which is the

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world's most followed independent Eurovision channel. What kind of blog?

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WeeWee Blogs. WeeWee Blogs. Okay. He's in Vienna. Hi, William.

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Hey, good evening, James. Good to have you on the

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program. What, nearly two hours since it all started. What

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are the highlights so far? Oh, wait a minute. Well,

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the room is... This is the BBC World Service, of

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course. Yes, thank you. I knew it couldn't be NPR.

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I just thought it was so lame it had to

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be NPR, but now that I think about it, you're

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right. Yeah. Okay, onward. Whenever you bring in the guy

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who writes the WeWe blog. Yeah, the Wee Wee blog

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is, I think, even beneath NPR. Very bouncy and very

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buoyant. A lot of that is... down to Australia, Delta

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Goodrum. She is going for gold and wearing gold. Yes,

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yes, yes, I'm stopping. Oh my God, we're never going

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to get through this. Australia? The Euderian Europe? Oh, we

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go through this every year. You might as well add

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Israel and say what? They're not in this, are they?

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Because they're not in Europe. Yes, but it is the

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Euro... The Eurovision. Yeah, Euro standing for Europe. No, that

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just means Eurovision. Like, you can see Europe. You have

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a vision of Europe. It doesn't mean that you have

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to be in Europe. Oh, then how do the United

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the voice. We invented all of these. these things. Okay,

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well, if they drop the United States, we'll drop ourselves.

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we go through this. What? Every year. They could, everyone

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can participate if they want. They just have to join

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the European Broadcasting Union, which costs money. Oh, there it

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is. It's like the Olympics. you know it's like then

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your country wins and then it's all hosted in your

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country and there's a lot of money involved sponsors all

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kinds of stuff everywhere 7 000 swarovski crystals she sort

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of looks like liquid champagne walking down the stage now

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from Eurovision. 7,000 Swarovski crystals. She looks like champagne coming

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down the steps. It's wonderful. Now, her song is called

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Eclipse. This is about alignment. And we can take some

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run that you were going to organize, that we were

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that's a connection that two people have that's really special

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and can lead to sort of romantic entanglement. Now, she

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herself is a cancer survivor. She's raised more than one

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hundred and twenty million dollars for cancer research. And so

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this song is about timing, you know, and she told

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me. When I sing, I'm singing for all the struggles

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I've had, all the struggles I've endured and survived. And

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it's just beautiful. She rises into the air on an

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elevator borrowed from Beyonce, the American pop star. Oh, no.

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in gold. There's a sun behind her. She looks like

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a gorgeous Renaissance painting with the sun being that halo.

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radio which is what we yes that was pure theater

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of the mind thank you we blog we'd like you

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to have done which is wonderful but tell us about

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the other favorites i mean she's one of them finland

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have come in at the last minute for you have

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they oh absolutely the contest really is a two horse

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race between Australia and Finland. Ha ha! Oh, how wrong

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he was. Well, you did mention Bulgaria. We should have

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sent Spencer Pratt. to the Eurovision. He would have swept

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it. He would have. All right, now we go to

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the I put "Ug" clip. I put "Ug" because this

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is a real groaner, this clip. But Bulgaria is lurking

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on the outside. Lurking. Now, the Bulgarian singer Dara, she

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used to suffer from a compulsion where she couldn't leave

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her house unless her makeup was perfect. And I don't

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say this in a joking way, it was clinical. If

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her eyebrows weren't painted on perfectly, she would experience so

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much anxiety. Oh, give this guy the hook. There is

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a traditional ceremony in Bulgaria, Kerkara, I believe, and they

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expel evil spirits. So on stage, she has people with

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bad makeup sitting in chairs, there's plastic on their face,

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and they perform a dance to drive out the anxiety,

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to drive out the evil. But she does this with

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a box that looks like an office. You're not aware

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of the audience, even though there are tens of thousands

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of people out there. It's creating a music video universe

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on a stage. It is remarkable. And just to close

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off the circle about the favorites, you've got Finland. My

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goodness. If Australia is about emotional connection with the singer

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and the audience. Finland is about emotional disconnection because you

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have a man and a woman on stage. The woman

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doesn't look at anyone. She's avoiding Pete. She says that

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she is like a flamethrower, Lika Heiten in Finnish, because

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but then she would just get cold as ice and

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walk away. And so their dynamic, his fire, her ice,

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it creates smoke. Why are you torturing us with this?

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I've never done this. Can I get some of President

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time we got to the nitty gritty of this piece

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of shit. Okay. And this is it. The ridiculous over-analysis

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of stupid acts. Oh, the woman has anxiety attacks because

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her makeup isn't correct. And she's the one who won.

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thing is ludicrous. And every year we talk about it,

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even though we would have missed it this year because

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who would have booked this one, Gary? I know, we

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were too busy looking at the news. Well, we were

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excised from the prediction by the cosmic forces because it

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was impossible for us to predict. That's my thing. thinking

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all right and that's in line with the kind of

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stupidity that we're listening to now so let's go on

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with clip three well he talked about anxiety earlier there

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was a bit of anxiety quite a lot of anxiety

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i guess around israel's participation five countries boycotting it how

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did their entry perform how did it all go down

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what I think. If I'm not correct, if I'm not

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mistaken. The Euro- Night career. If I'm not corrupted.

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If I'm not correct, then I'll be correct because that's

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rule one. I'm always correct. I believe that these broadcasters

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are all public broadcasters. I think that's part of the

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hook. And that's why you've got Israel has public broadcasting.

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Australia has public broadcasting. Canada, are they in this thing?

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think you have to be a public broadcaster. So this

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is kind of, this is their Super Bowl where they

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all get to, you know, get drunk. and hang out

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and party. because it's kind of their party. I think

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that's what's behind all this. But so how's that make

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him competitive? *laughs* and jeering in the audience. But this

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year, we didn't have the same amount of booing, if

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any. Certainly in the final, I didn't hear any this

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evening. A lot of that comes down to the subject

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matter. The song that the Israeli actor Noam Betten is

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singing is Michelle. Michelle is a woman. and they had

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a toxic relationship, and you can't really read that politically.

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songs. For instance, in 2024, the original title of Israel's

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entry was October Rain. Many people interpreted that to be

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a story about the October 7th attacks, and the following

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year, their singer, she actually survived. the October 7th attacks,

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she herself hid under dead bodies. Now, that's not a

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political statement. That's what she's endured. But people imbued it

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with meaning, suggesting, oh, Israel chose an act because they

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wanted to court sympathy on the international stage. But again,

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we need to remember, art is one of the times

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of the zeitgeist. You know, what is personal? What is

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political? These subjects are often very gray. Hold on. I

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have to subscribe to the RSS feed of the WeWe

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blog now. This is so awesome. unbelievable. Yes, it's unbelievable.

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the last time we ever talk about it. No, no,

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two. That's all I was gonna do. That's what we

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do with the signal. Well, you got usurped. Indeed. And

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pushed. I don't know if it's a good thing for

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the show. I think it's hurting the show. Indeed, and...

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It probably is. Let's turn to the... the voting because

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that for a lot of people that that's always been

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one of the highlights not just the singing but the

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voting and it's changed this year to give a better

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balance between the musical juries and the general public Yeah,

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you're right. There were two big changes. One change is

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that the professional juries in each country, they've been increased.

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are seven jurors, and they have to include more people

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under 30 or 25, basically making them younger and more

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diverse. The other big change is that rather than voting

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20 times per person, which was allowed in previous years,

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you could only vote 10 times. Now, this is off

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the back of the revelation following last year's Eurovision. that

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an Israeli government agency was involved in buying ads on

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YouTube and other social media platforms calling on voters to

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vote for Israel 20 times. Now, the reason voters can

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vote multiple times is because the European Union... I pulled

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this stunt at a, uh... Hello. chili cook-off for the

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People's Choice Awards. Wait, you bought votes? Well, we had

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a couple of... of uh chorus girls at the booth

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and talking everyone into turning all their votes into our

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jar. So they would sweet talk these guys. How many

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votes you got? Yeah, we got 10 votes. Just give

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so we ended up getting a lot of extra votes

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using that trick. But it's idiotic if you think about

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it. You should have one vote. You get to vote

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for the one you think's the best. You don't get

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10 votes and give them all to one guy. I

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can't even discuss this. with you. The European Broadcasting Union

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wants to spread the love. It wants people to be

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engaged with all cultures, all musical cultures. I'm letting it

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play out out of respect for you. 18 years of

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respect. That music comes from friends or from foes, but

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it seems to have backfired in the last edition where

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you had advertisements saying, no, don't spread the love. Give

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it all to us. So this year that's been reduced.

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to 10. We'll have to wait and see if that

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has any sort of impact on the results. We're almost

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at the end. I think 21st group at the moment,

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five ladies from Cyprus performing. Any sort of surprises? Any

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artists that stood out for you that aren't among the

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favourites? No, no. I'm all the way now. They'll be

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performing next to last in 20... Oh my goodness. The

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song is called "Choke Me" which is very provocative and

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a lot of people were offended. There was a petition

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to have it removed. But the singer has explained through

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her staging she is saying "Choke Me" to a phantom.

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Oh. "Choke Me." How come "Choke Me" didn't win? Let's

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just listen very quickly to the "Island" Rayleigh entry. Michelle,

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we'll just listen to a little bit here. We'll jump

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around. I'm doing this so that Spotify will take this

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episode off of their podcast features. Here we go. Okay,

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that's rejected. And here is the winner. Bangaranga! Let's see

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if I'm winner voted for this. No, I can see

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it. Drop! Yeah. Alright, let's leave it. Bangaranga, here we

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go. Oh, I see. A little bit of Bollywood's in

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there. Yeah, I get it. Kids like that. It's great.

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All right, 15 minutes of the show. Very good. Very

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good. Yeah. Very, very good. Okay, well, that's the end

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of that. It is. Let me, let me, let's go

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into some Trump hate. Ooh, yeah, we haven't done some

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proper Trump hate recently. That's true. Since I stopped getting

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the TikTok clips. Well, this is a semi-mainstream media Trump

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hate. And it started with... Let me see. with the

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chattering class, as we call it, the chattering class. Listen

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to how Megyn Kelly introduces her guest. All right. We're

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going to bring in our very first guest, very first

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guest ever here on the MK show. That's the podfather

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of our show, Glenn Greenwald, I speak of. He's a

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Pulitzer Prize winning journalist. and host of System Update on

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Substack. Help me understand this. I mean, it's one thing

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never to ask me back on the show. I mean,

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it's pretty... Well, you were... I thought you were an

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ungrateful guest. What do you mean ungrateful guest? So she

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has Glenn Greenwald on the show. He knows the podfather

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somehow. Well, he's her podfather. I used to be her

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podfather. I can be the podfather, but I'm not her

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podfather. Okay. And so, Megyn Kelly, captured by her audience.

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Glenn Greenwald, he never got uncaptured. I think he's always

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been kind of the same. Self-hating Jew. Uh, they, uh,

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they just have to lay into it. I thought this

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was, uh... Career ending. I didn't know this took place,

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but I'm glad you got this clip. Oh, no, she

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had Tucker on. She got Glenn Greenwald on. It's fantastic.

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There was an admission on. The Iran war, which jumped

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out at me, and it might to you too. Here

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it is in Sat 7. By the way, so that

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show, here it is in slot seven. And then you

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get a three-second pause. Please appreciate your no agenda show

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when you hear these things. You know, this is not

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pro. Me and it might to you too. Here it

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is in SOT7. We're doing it to help Israel and

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to help Saudi Arabia and to help Qatar and UAE

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and, you know, Kuwait and other countries. Bahrain. It also

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helps China. We're actually, I told him today, I said,

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you know, we're helping you and we're helping you in

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another way. because I don't think China wants Iran to

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have a nuclear weapon either. I said... Don't go crazy.

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You don't need them having a nuclear weapon either. What

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did he say? Well, he's not going to respond to

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much. He's a pretty cool guy. He's not going to

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say, oh, gee, that's a good point. What's he going

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to do? Oh, I mean, What a wonderful point. You

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think he agreed? That was the impression. I don't think

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he wants him to. No, he would like to see

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it end. But he's been good about it, you know.

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So there it is. I mean, lest there was any

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doubt, it's the first thing in the answer. We did

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it to help Israel. We're doing it to help Israel.

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He named other countries. He has said the world can't

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have Iran having a nuclear weapon. But just to say

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that is so controversial, that we're doing it to help

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Israel. We know. We know that. We've said that many

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times. And then you get called an anti-Semite. But that's

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not anti-Semitic. It is a fact. You heard it from

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the president of the United States himself. He thinks it's

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also helping some of the Gulf Arab states. Fine. That's

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not controversial. You can say that. But prior to the

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president saying it himself explicitly, you weren't allowed to say

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that other piece of it or you were called an

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anti-Semite. Why? She's so uptight about this. Call me an

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anti-Semite. You couldn't say this. You're a podcaster. You can

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say whatever you want to say. Why do you care?

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I don't know, it's weird. Here comes Greenwald. This was

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a movement that was calling itself America First. And then

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you have Trump saying, oh yeah, this will work. It's

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kind of helping us. We don't want them to have

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a nuclear weapon. But yeah, we're helping Israel. Get rid

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of their big enemy.

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I think he editorialized that a little bit. These people

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are insane about this stuff. And so the way they

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take the president's statement is, oh, it's about Israel. Oh,

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yeah. Yeah, just helping Israel get rid of their big

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enemy. Of course, Trump mentioned a whole bunch of other

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countries, but Glenn Greenwald has an answer for that, too.

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And also, when we talk about these Persian Gulf states,

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what we mean are Persian Gulf dictatorships, Arab dictatorships that

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have extreme levels of human rights abuses that we claim

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to be so offended when they appear in Iran. You

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think protesters fare any better in Dubai or in Riyadh

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or in Doha? There's no one protesting in Dubai. I

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think they're all pretty happy with things in Dubai. Riyadh,

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are they protesting? Should they be protesting? Am I missing

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something? I don't know. Maybe they should. In Bahrain or

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Kuwait? No. Or then Iran? No, they don't. And this

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idea, you know, and also the Strait of Hormuz, Trump

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himself said at the beginning out of frustration, look, if

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you're not willing to go to a war with Iran

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to open the Strait of Hormuz, we don't have to

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do it. We don't need the Strait of Hormuz, which

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is true. We don't get oil from the Strait of

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Hormuz. China does, and the Gulf states need the Strait

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of Hormuz to sell oil. But Trump is in bed

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with these Persian Gulf dictators. He loves them too. They're

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extremely rich. They have a kind of shared aesthetic with

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this very ostentatious, gold-laden kind of, you know. Trump is

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now a Middle Eastern dictator, you see. This is where

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it's gone. But you do have the taste for gold,

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I have to say. Totally. I mean, if you go

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look at that BBC video of me in 2004, I

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had the same thing. But yet I never felt like

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a Middle East dictator was my style. This gold-laden kind

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of wealth expression. He loves them. His family is in

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bed with the Persian Gulf states. In bed. And he's

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very close to them. He listens to them and obviously

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to Israel. And I don't think these are good things

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for our country. Why are we prosecuting a war that's

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harming Americans for the benefits of Israel or these Persian

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Gulf dictators? and on the question of china yeah i

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mean opening up the strait of hormuz is far more

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in china's than ours the problem is is that the

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only reason the strait of hormuz is closed is because

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israel is because the united states joined israel and attacking

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iran it was perfectly open the strait of hormuz was

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prior to this war for forever perfectly forever closed now

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closed now because it was a response to the attack

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on Iran. And I think the rest of the world

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is like, you caused this problem. It's your responsibility to

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fix it. And I think it's a reasonable view for

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most countries to have. So I played these clips. First

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of all, I thought it was kind of funny. But

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second of all, they are now so much like the

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mainstream media. They don't really look at anything further than

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the surface. I think they're watching MS now and CNN

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and Fox probably to get their talking points almost. I

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mean, this whole trip to China, as you, I mean,

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it was ridiculous. It made no sense. Everything was wrong.

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It's stupid. Trump came back with nothing. Let's go to

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MS now. When Donald Trump was running for president, you

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may remember this. He had a question he loved to

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ask, a particular thought experiment about a tête-à-tête between Vice

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President Harris and President Xi. And it went like this.

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Kamala Harris is so incompetent. Can you imagine her dealing

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with President Xi of China? Can you imagine her dealing

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with President Xi? Can you imagine with President Xi? Can

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you imagine her negotiating with President Xi of China? Can

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you imagine her standing with President Xi of China? By

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the way, nice supercut. I don't think so. Can you

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imagine? He said that so many times. I mean, Trump

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spent that campaign railing about China's influence in the world,

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and he repeatedly insisted that he alone was the only

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candidate tough enough to go toe-to-toe with President Xi of

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China. He was the only person who could show Xi

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who's boss. Well, Donald Trump just finished his first state

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visit to China in his second term, and how did

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it go? did big bad donald trump stand up to

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the chinese leader i mean this is exactly the same

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as megan and glenn there's no analysis they're just doing

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hot takes like punch lines yeah that's a good point

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that's just a hot take yeah and so let's get

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the exact right word for it ambassador mcfall let me

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start with you ambassador mcfall here we go this guy's

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good outline some of the biggest issues that were at

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stake during this visit we talked about this late last

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night when it was the trip was still a bit

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ongoing but as you looked it's now over what did

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trump and really the united states get out of this

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trip well what do you think john what do you

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think they got out of this to get anything out

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of this trip anything at all anything mrs anything um

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i think they got something out of it I think

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the Boeing, impossible sales of Boeing jets was a big

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deal, especially if it was going to be 200 of

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them or more. Yeah. That was about it, seems to

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me. And they got to meet, and then Trump got

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to show off to all these our own business guys

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that he knows this guy, she, and they can introduce

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him to him. Hey, you can meet the guy. You

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meet him, shake his hand, and we're all good to

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go. I think that's a big deal. There's actually more.

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But yeah, there was that. There was some soybeans. Always

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some soybeans. Oh, there's always soybeans. Gotta do some soybeans.

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But let's hear what Ambassador McFaul thinks. Chen, you just

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summarized it brilliantly. That was a fantastic laydown. And I'm

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so glad you reminded everybody about what he said he

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was going to do with China. Remember, when he first

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ran for president, it was all about China. China's eating

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our lunch. China's taking our jobs. They're doing all these

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horrible things to us. And he used in that phrase,

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that clip you just showed, communist China, right? You never

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heard him use the word communist once on this trip.

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And I just think this flip is remarkable. And I

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hope his voters noticed it. I hope Republicans noticed it

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because for decades. Notice what? The Republican Party was always

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saying Democrats are weak on China. We're going to be

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tough. And now he is completely flipped. You could not

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do a bigger flip. So again, he do. Well, he

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he was just nice. He didn't say you're always bitching

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and moaning that he's not nice and he has no

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decorum. And he goes over there and he becomes nice.

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And now they're complaining about that. It's all they do

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is complain. It gets better. I think an acronym you

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could use to summarize not just this meeting, but everything

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leading up to it is make China great again. When

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you look at the impact of the Trump president. Make

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China great again. Trump screwed it up, only made China

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stronger. The real winner has been China. And the loser

464
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has been America's allies and America itself. And what's really

465
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extraordinary about it, Ali, is President Trump was elected beginning

466
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in 2016 in large part because he was really one

467
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of the first U.S. leaders who recognized the way that

468
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China's entry to the WTO was contributing to the hollowing

469
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out of the U.S. middle class. Wow, the very same

470
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,600
people who told him that he was racist and he

471
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was going to kill people by withdrawing from all of

472
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these organizations. All they do is counter-programming all the time.

473
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One of his promises to American Rust Belt workers was

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he was going to fix it. But instead, what we

475
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:57,400
see he's doing is bullying reporters, beating up on America's

476
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:02,800
closest friends and allies. Oh, no. And frankly, seeming cowed

477
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:10,460
by China. Again. No. Well, let's go to the liberal

478
00:28:10,460 --> 00:28:15,740
intellectual elites, an acronym. will go to the liberal intellectual

479
00:28:15,740 --> 00:28:20,200
elites who everybody listens to because their pod is by

480
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:26,760
far one of the most important and smart, smart tech

481
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,680
pods. It also, I mean, it's a reminder of the

482
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,720
stark contrast in the first Trump term. I'm sorry, this

483
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,400
isn't the pod, but it's one of the hosts of

484
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,300
the pod. What pod are we talking about? We're talking

485
00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:40,580
about the pivot pod. And how the business community treated.

486
00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:42,760
Kara Schwisher. You see, she gets to be on CNN

487
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,800
now that she has a show on CNN. You see,

488
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,980
that's how it works. Yeah, she wants to live forever.

489
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And what we're seeing now, I mean, so many people

490
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,300
were critical of that inauguration seating chart. But this is

491
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kind of evidence of probably a big driving factor for

492
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,220
that. So they could go on trips like this. Well,

493
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as I said, it's a coin-operated presidency. And they figured

494
00:29:01,980 --> 00:29:04,220
out very quickly that you put money in and you

495
00:29:04,220 --> 00:29:08,140
get it. Coin-operated presidency. She's going to explain it. Oh,

496
00:29:08,140 --> 00:29:10,180
that's cute. She's going to explain it. Boy, that's going

497
00:29:10,180 --> 00:29:13,680
to catch on. All the kids are talking about it.

498
00:29:13,780 --> 00:29:16,520
And they figured out very quickly that you put money

499
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,480
in and you get stuff out. Like Andreessen Horowitz spending

500
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,720
the most money towards the midterms. They understand it's a

501
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,360
very small amount of money to spend $115 million because they

502
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,580
get so much more. They get billions and billions out

503
00:29:29,580 --> 00:29:31,480
of it. And so they've sort of figured out it's

504
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,660
a cheap way to get what you want. And that's

505
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what they're doing. And they will continue to do that

506
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because shareholders, as I've said over and over again, are

507
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their biggest goal. And that's fine, I suppose. Shareholders are

508
00:29:42,660 --> 00:29:46,280
a goal? That's pretty explicit. Now, she's just waffling. You

509
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,120
know, without Galloway, she's no good. She really isn't. Then

510
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:55,200
she is just, she is icky. She's gone and she's

511
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,900
like a single now. You know, she's like one of

512
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the people that were in the Rolling Stones.

513
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,080
decided to become a single act. And so she's... When

514
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,220
Charlie Watts did his jazz album. So she quit the

515
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group to become a single because she's such a demand

516
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for it. And so this dog of this I want

517
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,080
to live forever thing, which is overproducing, costs a lot

518
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:23,380
of money, is going to cost CNN. She's going to

519
00:30:23,380 --> 00:30:27,060
disappear from the scene after that thing, after they analyze

520
00:30:27,060 --> 00:30:30,000
that sucker. So we'll see what happens. All right, so

521
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,740
now here they are together on the pod. He brought

522
00:30:32,740 --> 00:30:37,020
17 CEOs with him and three diplomats. Flying billionaires on

523
00:30:37,020 --> 00:30:40,180
a plane to China to get shit seems... Oh, by

524
00:30:40,180 --> 00:30:42,560
the way, she has a really foul mouth in this

525
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,660
one. Problematic. Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York

526
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Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher.

527
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And I'm Scott Galloway. President Trump. Oh, can we start

528
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,900
the show like that? I'm Adam Curry. And you go,

529
00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:57,180
and I'm John C. Dvorak. I think we should start...

530
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Let's do it. Yeah, okay. everybody's doing the bangaranga and

531
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broadcasting live from the heart of the texas hill country

532
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,260
here in fema region number six in the morning everybody

533
00:31:09,260 --> 00:31:17,840
i'm adam curry and i'm john c dvorak excellent excellent

534
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,280
i'm kara swisher and i'm sky galloway president trump and

535
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,800
uh chinese president xi uh have met for a little

536
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,980
over two hours right now and attended a state banquet

537
00:31:27,980 --> 00:31:31,760
to start off their two-day summit in china in g's

538
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,460
opening toast at the banquet g said achieving the great

539
00:31:34,020 --> 00:31:37,520
rejuvenation of the chinese nation and making america great again

540
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,200
can go hand in hand he's snickering at trump on

541
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,140
his back though the white house said both sides agreed

542
00:31:43,140 --> 00:31:47,000
that the straight of her moves must remain open she

543
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,280
warned that trump that mishandling taiwan would cause clashes and

544
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,820
put the entire relationship in great jeopardy what just happened

545
00:31:55,820 --> 00:31:59,740
oh it ended well well there you go One more.

546
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One more from these Jim Oaks. It's short. President Trump,

547
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,340
however, does not appear to be overly concerned. Let's listen

548
00:32:04,340 --> 00:32:06,820
to how he answered a reporter's question as he left

549
00:32:06,820 --> 00:32:10,200
the White House for his China trip. When you're negotiating

550
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,880
with Iran, Mr. President, to what extent are American financial

551
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,560
situations motivating you to make a deal? Not even a

552
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,380
little bit. The only thing that matters when I'm talking

553
00:32:20,380 --> 00:32:23,140
about Iran, they can't have a nuclear weapon. I don't

554
00:32:23,140 --> 00:32:27,980
think about American financial situation. I don't think about anybody.

555
00:32:27,340 --> 00:32:31,700
I think about one thing. We cannot let Iran have

556
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:34,720
a nuclear weapon. That's all. That's the only thing that

557
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,000
Mono did. Oh, wow. That was some quote. That was

558
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,800
like an ad. He cut an ad for them. That

559
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was astonishing, I have to say. I mean, it's what

560
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,360
I think he thinks. And this nuclear weapon thing, we're

561
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,340
less safe now than we were doing the Obama days

562
00:32:48,340 --> 00:32:50,980
when we had most of the enriched uranium in a

563
00:32:50,980 --> 00:32:53,620
deal and the state of her moves was open so

564
00:32:53,620 --> 00:32:57,480
any thoughts about what he's doing here why or he's

565
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,680
just just an old adult man who just says whatever's

566
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,640
on his mind so this was indeed the ad and

567
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,140
all of the m5m jumped on this oh he doesn't

568
00:33:09,140 --> 00:33:11,540
care in fact there's always one guy in the troll

569
00:33:11,540 --> 00:33:14,480
room who always who basically should be on the pivot

570
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,180
pod yeah screw Americans, right? You don't care, but you

571
00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:21,820
don't care. They all did this. They all jumped up.

572
00:33:21,820 --> 00:33:24,880
He doesn't care about your money. He only cares about

573
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,760
nuclear war. President Trump is back at the White House

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and back to the reality in the United States of

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gas prices, which are now averaging $4.53 a gallon nationally. If

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you thought that after a couple of days away during

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his trip to China and when asked exactly what he

578
00:33:43,820 --> 00:33:46,700
meant when he answered that question that he was going

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to rephrase or clarify what he said about Americans financial

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00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,340
situations when it comes to the impact from the Iran

581
00:33:54,340 --> 00:33:59,500
war you would be wrong. Hold on a second that

582
00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:04,140
sounds like MS now. The CNN. Oh the CNN? That's

583
00:34:04,140 --> 00:34:09,640
Caitlin Collins. Okay it seems to me yes the Democrats

584
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,800
who have been fighting against fossil fuels forever and would

585
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,840
love a $10 a gallon gas price to keep people from

586
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,800
using gasoline should be happy about this. How come they're

587
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,380
bitching about it? Can you answer me that question? Because

588
00:34:22,380 --> 00:34:24,800
this is all about the midterms. That's all that it

589
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,260
is. Everything in the world is about the midterms. It's

590
00:34:28,260 --> 00:34:32,500
just the midterms. The context and the question itself was

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00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:35,340
pretty clear, but also in the subsequent interview that the

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president did while he was in Beijing with Brett Baier.

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And in fact, during that interview, the president continued doubling

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down on this sentiment. When you tell somebody you're going

595
00:34:46,740 --> 00:34:49,120
to have to pay a little more, not that much

596
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,480
more, a little more for gas, Celine, for a very

597
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,600
short period of time, because we want to stop the

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00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,860
threat of being blown to pieces by a lunatic, by

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00:34:58,860 --> 00:35:02,180
a crazy person, and they are crazy, using nuclear weapons.

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00:35:02,180 --> 00:35:05,720
Everybody says that's fine. And that question was a fake

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00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:08,840
question, and they didn't put my full answer. I totally

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00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,020
care. Of course, to people struggling to put food on

603
00:35:13,020 --> 00:35:15,360
the table or who are grimacing when they go to

604
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,220
fill up their tank. Vote Democrat. There was nothing fake

605
00:35:18,220 --> 00:35:21,720
about the question. And as far as the president's answer.

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We've played the entire thing for you since he said

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it as he was departing the White House earlier this

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00:35:26,420 --> 00:35:29,340
week. But just for good measure, you can listen to

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00:35:29,340 --> 00:35:33,340
the entire thing. OK, good measure. Here we go. Mr.

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President, to what extent are American financial situations motivating you

611
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to make a deal? Not even a little bit. The

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00:35:40,620 --> 00:35:43,740
only thing that matters when I'm talking about Iran, they

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00:35:43,740 --> 00:35:47,280
can't have a nuclear weapon. I don't think about American

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00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,580
financial situation. I don't think about anybody i think about

615
00:35:50,580 --> 00:35:54,540
one thing we cannot let iran have a nuclear weapon

616
00:35:54,540 --> 00:35:58,140
that's all that's the only thing that so it's subtle

617
00:35:58,140 --> 00:36:01,660
it's very subtle chopping off the front end of it

618
00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:05,080
but i think it matters so anyway let's find out

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exactly what the i don't know financial people think of

620
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:10,500
the trip and if they felt it was any good

621
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:14,000
this is cnbc i like cnbc because they kind of

622
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,760
have to tell the truth is difficult for them sometimes,

623
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,440
especially for the Sorkin kid. But they have to tell

624
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,900
the truth because, you know, people invest on it and

625
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:24,400
otherwise people won't watch their stupid network anymore. So here

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00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,900
we go. President Xi has already issued a warning to

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President Trump saying that the Taiwan question is the most

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00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:34,540
important issue in the China-U.S. relation. And if not handled

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00:36:34,540 --> 00:36:38,880
properly, these two countries could have clashes and even conflicts.

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What do you make of this warning? That's a very

631
00:36:42,940 --> 00:36:45,560
good question. And that's probably the biggest concern for people

632
00:36:45,220 --> 00:36:48,720
like myself living in Taiwan. In a summer, there are

633
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:51,980
three subjects Trump want to talk about. Number one is

634
00:36:51,980 --> 00:36:56,260
Iran and war, because they want to reduce inflation with

635
00:36:56,260 --> 00:36:59,180
more supply of oil. Number two is trade. That's why

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Trump got all the CEOs, NVIDIA, Apple, et cetera, to

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00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:06,980
China about trade. Number three is Taiwan. But from Xi's

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00:37:06,980 --> 00:37:11,960
perspective, the order importance is reversed. For Xi's perspective, Taiwan

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is number one subject, number one importance. So if you

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00:37:15,580 --> 00:37:18,540
listened, and I'm just going to think it's true, I

641
00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:20,840
don't know, it could be total bull crap. But if

642
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,500
you listen to some of the interviews, it seems like

643
00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:27,460
some other deals were made that are relevant to our

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00:37:27,460 --> 00:37:30,520
relationship with China. Let me ask you this. The issue,

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00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,300
and you've been asked about it, and you've spoken about

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00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:38,260
it, and that is China's support of Iran. How big

647
00:37:38,260 --> 00:37:41,800
a discussion was that today? We discussed it. We discussed

648
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it. I mean, when you say support, they're not fighting

649
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,160
a war with us or anything. No. He said he's

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not going to give military equipment. That's a big statement.

651
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,300
He said that today. That's a big statement. He said

652
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that strongly. But at the same time, he said, you

653
00:37:56,020 --> 00:37:57,680
know, they buy a lot of their oil there and

654
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,040
they'd like to keep doing that. He'd like to see

655
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Hormuz straight opened. I said, well, we didn't stop it.

656
00:38:03,140 --> 00:38:05,020
They did it. Then we stopped them. You know, sort

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of interesting. He joked. He said, you know, sort of

658
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if they stopped it, then you stopped them. But they'd

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00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,540
like to see it opened. But they actually closed it.

660
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He didn't like the fact that they're charging tolls. I

661
00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:19,740
don't know if they are or not. I don't know

662
00:38:19,740 --> 00:38:21,280
who would pay them. I mean, where do they put

663
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,840
the money? The country's decimated. They're charging tolls. Where's the

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00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:30,200
money going? Do you think President Xi and China have

665
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the ability to influence the Iranians, considering they are one

666
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of their biggest customers? I love how he's not going

667
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,300
to give a truthful answer. He's like, I'm not going

668
00:38:42,300 --> 00:38:46,080
to tell you that. Look, he's not coming in with

669
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,500
guns. He's not coming in with rifles and not coming

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in shooting. He's been very good. they get a lot

671
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of their oil, 40% of their oil from that location.

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So what has happened, and one thing I think that

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we're going to make a deal on, they've agreed they

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want to buy oil from the United States. They're going

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00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:07,520
to go to Texas. We're going to start sending Chinese

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00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,160
ships to Texas and to Louisiana and to Alaska. All

677
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,180
right, let's go to CNBC with our Secretary of Energy,

678
00:39:16,180 --> 00:39:20,560
Chris Wright. You said short term. Should we, should the

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world get prepared for maybe a longer supply disruption than

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some initially suspected? Because give us your view on where

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we stand in the Strait of Hormuz right now, if

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you would, Mr. Secretary. And also, what are your estimations

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about how long things might take to return to normal?

684
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And I hate that term, but I think you know

685
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what I mean. Yeah, but a lot of that's up

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to Iran. One way or the other, we will see

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an end to the Iranian nuclear program, and we will

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see free flow of traffic through the Straits of Hormuz.

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That could happen relatively rapidly with an agreement with Iran.

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Every nation in the world is standing against what Iran

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is doing.

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including China, who's a major buyer of Iranian oil and

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other oil from the Arabian Gulf. Do you think they'll

694
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swap that out for U.S. oil? It's kind of what

695
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,800
I asked you at the top of the interview. Yeah,

696
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certainly in the short run, they're going to do that.

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They'll continue to buy, and I think, growing amounts of

698
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U.S. oil. You know, you see that Chinese ships are

699
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,660
getting to the Straits of Hormuz, because I think we

700
00:40:21,660 --> 00:40:24,440
control it. I don't think Iran controls it. I think

701
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,180
we're just sitting there like, oh, this is great, until

702
00:40:27,180 --> 00:40:30,400
you want to buy our insurance and use our new

703
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,020
shipping infrastructure. You can do whatever you want. Come to

704
00:40:33,020 --> 00:40:36,900
Louisiana. Come to Texas. Best price. Everything's going to be

705
00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:41,200
good. And in the background, we've got UAE and their

706
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,040
pipeline. And eventually, this thing will open up. And I

707
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,400
think you're going to see the price of oil go

708
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:52,540
just – you okay? Yeah, sorry. Just dive bomb. It

709
00:40:52,540 --> 00:40:56,740
seems so clear, even looking at the futures. Yeah, but

710
00:40:56,740 --> 00:40:58,500
don't we want to sell them oil at a little

711
00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:01,020
higher price to make a little extra money? Well, yeah.

712
00:41:01,340 --> 00:41:03,480
And we also want to do the insurance. We want

713
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,080
to take this away from the British guys. We want

714
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,240
to run that. We've seen Saudi Arabia go full flow

715
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:13,440
to the Red Sea with their port of Yambou. Do

716
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,960
you think that the Strait of Hormuz and the Arabian

717
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,200
Gulf are going to become permanently less important? They're still

718
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,960
massively important, but less important than they have been? Oh,

719
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,300
absolutely. I mean, Iran, this is a card you can

720
00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:29,920
play once. You can play once. We'll see more pipeline

721
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,660
capacity through Saudi, through UAE. You know, there's an Iraqi

722
00:41:33,660 --> 00:41:37,180
pipeline that goes to Chehan in Turkey. We could see

723
00:41:37,180 --> 00:41:40,040
a pipeline going to Jordan. Hey, maybe that's why Turkey

724
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,100
tried to get involved. Remember Turkey was trying to get

725
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:47,780
involved in the conversation? Yeah, they were actually. Yeah, I

726
00:41:47,780 --> 00:41:50,720
think, hey, we got a pipeline. Send it our way.

727
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,800
This is good. Saudi through UAE. You know, there's an

728
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,500
Iraqi pipeline that goes to Chehan in Turkey. We could

729
00:41:57,500 --> 00:42:00,380
see a pipeline going to Jordan. There'll be other routes

730
00:42:00,380 --> 00:42:03,420
for energy to get out of the Persian Gulf. I

731
00:42:03,420 --> 00:42:06,580
prefer to call it the Arabian Gulf. Ooh, we're renaming

732
00:42:06,580 --> 00:42:08,560
it. I think we will see it. How about the

733
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,900
Gulf of America? Yeah, could you know the one of

734
00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:13,980
those? Out of the Persian Gulf. I prefer to call

735
00:42:13,980 --> 00:42:16,600
it the Arabian Gulf. But yeah, I think we will

736
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,440
see a decreasing importance from the Strait of Hormuz, but

737
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,220
not a decreasing importance of those nations energy production and

738
00:42:23,220 --> 00:42:25,780
energy supply yeah they're great allies of the united states

739
00:42:25,780 --> 00:42:28,900
they're key energy suppliers to the world yeah i i

740
00:42:28,900 --> 00:42:31,240
think they have they have some kind of plan that

741
00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:34,680
they're executing on, and Rubio's, Lubio, I'm sorry, President Lubio

742
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,620
is aware of it. Is there anything you can shed

743
00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:38,020
light on that? Well, I think the details will be

744
00:42:38,020 --> 00:42:39,760
announced later today. I don't want to get ahead of

745
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,200
the actual announcement by the trade representative, but there's going

746
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,740
to be some agricultural purchases which are important, and they're

747
00:42:44,740 --> 00:42:47,820
important for our growers, and China needs those things. We

748
00:42:47,820 --> 00:42:50,360
hope in the future to expand it to energy purchase.

749
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:53,380
The United States is a net supplier of energy now

750
00:42:53,380 --> 00:42:54,940
to the world. one of the world's, if not the

751
00:42:54,940 --> 00:42:58,420
world's largest energy supplier at this point. Obviously, when it

752
00:42:58,420 --> 00:43:00,440
comes to the airplanes and the engines, those are American

753
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,980
factories and American workers that are making that. And so

754
00:43:02,980 --> 00:43:05,480
anytime you can gain access to a market as large

755
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,360
as this one, that's a very positive thing. Yeah, I

756
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,940
still believe in the ARC model, America, Russia, China. Look,

757
00:43:11,940 --> 00:43:14,400
you can buy some from Russia. We're not going to

758
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,420
make a problem out of it. We're not going to

759
00:43:16,420 --> 00:43:18,920
sanction the ghost ships. Just do it, do it legally.

760
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,040
You're going to have to pay more, but, you know,

761
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,360
just get on board with everybody else. And then that

762
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,300
strait will eventually open up. It could take another four

763
00:43:26,300 --> 00:43:28,480
or five months for all I know. I don't think

764
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,540
it's going to take forever. You know, there may be

765
00:43:30,540 --> 00:43:33,560
something to the, you know, our basic thesis on the

766
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,720
show was always there's a back channel in Iran. Yes.

767
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,320
We were working with them in some way, shape or

768
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:44,520
form. Has that disappeared or are we still, is it

769
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,820
possible that we're still working with them and all this

770
00:43:46,820 --> 00:43:52,940
is part of a giant scheme? Completely possible. And getting

771
00:43:52,940 --> 00:43:56,320
rid of the Ayatollah guys was part of it because

772
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,000
the real powers in Iran didn't want them around. They

773
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,220
were annoying. It was super annoying. Well, they're very annoying.

774
00:44:02,820 --> 00:44:07,960
In this way, remember the turban knockers, the kids going

775
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,660
bicycles and knock their turbans off. Yeah, I forgot about

776
00:44:12,660 --> 00:44:16,220
that. Well, we already know that there's more hijabs on

777
00:44:16,220 --> 00:44:19,200
the streets of Amsterdam than the streets of Tehran. Yes,

778
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,880
right. You got that information from a boots on the

779
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,300
ground report. Yeah, so things are... By the way, I

780
00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:27,400
got a boots on the ground from one of our

781
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,660
producers. He says, everybody... Let me just find it here.

782
00:44:32,060 --> 00:44:37,320
Everybody's bugging... Or he says, boogieing out of Kuwait due

783
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,860
to imminent action. Sunday was what we had been told

784
00:44:40,860 --> 00:44:44,960
and why we bugged out. All contractors plus non-essential personnel

785
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:50,500
evacuated. This has to do with all GCC countries. Quote,

786
00:44:50,500 --> 00:44:54,160
Trump is done effing around. Xi is handled. Oil being

787
00:44:54,160 --> 00:45:01,500
sold from the U.S. CIA Mossad insurgency. Hmm. We have

788
00:45:01,500 --> 00:45:02,840
served as the sheriff of the world. A lot of

789
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,140
colonists here. Well, he's a military guy. We've served as

790
00:45:06,140 --> 00:45:08,500
the sheriff of the world. We're cleaning up European colonies.

791
00:45:08,420 --> 00:45:11,180
So there's a lot in here, but there's supposedly something

792
00:45:11,180 --> 00:45:17,240
might be happening today, and everybody's getting out. So I

793
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:20,280
don't know. Maybe this will come to a quicker end

794
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,520
than we thought. Well, it has to, in my opinion,

795
00:45:24,460 --> 00:45:27,120
because we still have the problem with the 4th of

796
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:32,620
July. Yes, yes. We don't need anything, the sort of

797
00:45:32,620 --> 00:45:36,180
Damocles hanging over our heads on the 4th of July

798
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:39,940
in our celebration of 250 years as a country. You

799
00:45:39,940 --> 00:45:45,900
know, speaking of Greek references, Chris, the Knight of the

800
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:49,720
Iguana, he said he had a slight correction to the

801
00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:55,860
Thysudides. Thysudides. Thysudides, yes. We can't pronounce it. He says

802
00:45:55,860 --> 00:46:01,820
the Thysidides trap warns the upcoming power, not the dominant

803
00:46:01,820 --> 00:46:06,200
one. Athens was the rising power. Sparta was gunning for

804
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,720
him. If you take the Thysidides trap as it was

805
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:16,140
originally written. Thucydides. Thucydides. It's impossible to say. I know.

806
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,660
Let's just call it T-trap. If you take the T-trap,

807
00:46:18,660 --> 00:46:22,840
which is kind of cool with China. China is in

808
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:29,880
danger of the trap not the USA so even this

809
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:35,060
phony baloney thing that the M5M was bantering about they

810
00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:40,240
didn't even get it right although I'm sure what? although

811
00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:45,640
I'm sure in a future dictionary the Thucydides trap will

812
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:52,260
be reversed just like decimated yeah decimated It'll just be

813
00:46:52,260 --> 00:46:59,920
reversed. Meanwhile, Cuba on deck. You recall the president said

814
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:03,000
that on our way home from Iran, we'll park off

815
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,740
the shore of Cuba and we'll say, hey, we're taking

816
00:47:05,740 --> 00:47:07,700
you over, and they'll say, okay, we're good, we're ready.

817
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:10,880
Yeah, I got a couple of clips on this. Oh,

818
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,740
okay. Let's play your clips. Well, let's start with the

819
00:47:13,740 --> 00:47:20,280
blackouts one and two. Okay. Cuba blackout, yep. First up

820
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,160
today, Cuba. This week, the island ran out of oil,

821
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,640
causing massive blackouts across the country and a night of

822
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,320
protests. Havana. protests. What is, who is this? Is this,

823
00:47:33,460 --> 00:47:35,960
that's what's her name. The black chick that works on

824
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,140
the weekends at NPR. Yeah. NPR. And she just, I

825
00:47:40,140 --> 00:47:42,800
don't know. She just doesn't want to pronounce words. Correct.

826
00:47:43,180 --> 00:47:46,340
Also got a visit from the CIA director. He was

827
00:47:46,340 --> 00:47:49,840
there for negotiations, starting with a tough choice for Cuba's

828
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,780
leaders. Change or the U S will act. NPR international

829
00:47:53,780 --> 00:47:57,580
correspondent Eder Peralta is following it all and joins us

830
00:47:57,580 --> 00:48:00,840
now. Good morning, Eder. Hey, good morning, Alyssa. So let's

831
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,520
start with more details from what looks like a week

832
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,480
with a lot going on in Cuba. Yeah, I mean,

833
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,280
we're reaching summer there, so it's really hot. And it

834
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,880
so happens that the lights went off for more than

835
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,560
24 hours this week. So on Wednesday, very unhappy people

836
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,780
took to the streets of Havana. They banged on pots

837
00:48:17,780 --> 00:48:20,860
and pans demanding that the government turn the lights back

838
00:48:20,860 --> 00:48:24,280
on. And the government didn't offer much hope. The country's

839
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,900
energy minister, Vicente de la O. Levi, came on TV

840
00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:31,120
and said that the 100,000 tons of Russian crude that

841
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,760
arrived in April has been used up and that the

842
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:38,300
grid is now operating essentially without reserves. And remember that

843
00:48:38,300 --> 00:48:41,400
Cuba has received precious little oil because the U.S. is

844
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,800
running a de facto oil blockade. Cuba has been investing

845
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,700
in solar power, but the grid is so old, so

846
00:48:47,700 --> 00:48:50,700
frail, so lacking in maintenance that it can't handle the

847
00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:54,820
voltage fluctuations that happen with solar energy. So that means

848
00:48:54,820 --> 00:48:58,540
that the long blackouts that are making life miserable on

849
00:48:58,540 --> 00:49:01,960
the island are here to stay. No, because we're coming

850
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,040
to the rescue. Is that what you have in clip

851
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,540
two? No, clip two is a little different. I think

852
00:49:07,540 --> 00:49:11,100
clip three maybe, which is a different clip. But yeah.

853
00:49:11,820 --> 00:49:13,780
And while all this is happening, the director of the

854
00:49:13,780 --> 00:49:17,200
CIA lands in the country? Yeah. Cuba says that the

855
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,320
U.S. asked for a high-level meeting and a delegation headed

856
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:25,060
by CIA Director John Ratcliffe. By the way, when the

857
00:49:25,060 --> 00:49:28,140
CIA director comes to visit your country, typically not a

858
00:49:28,140 --> 00:49:32,760
good thing. Why is he there? Last time a CIA

859
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:38,180
director visited a country, we got Ukraine. Yeah. I'm wondering

860
00:49:38,180 --> 00:49:40,620
this myself. They say, well, they want a high-level meeting.

861
00:49:40,620 --> 00:49:43,440
why don't they send Rubio? Rubio is the obvious choice.

862
00:49:43,300 --> 00:49:48,380
He's Cuban or any number of people. Rubio, of course,

863
00:49:48,380 --> 00:49:51,100
would be the top guy. But they send a CIA

864
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:54,180
director because they want to highlight. Well, this just means

865
00:49:54,180 --> 00:49:57,000
something's up. Yeah, I don't like it either. It's very

866
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,440
suspicious. Landed in Havana. Well, I mean, I don't disagree.

867
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,420
like it because something's up and maybe it should be

868
00:50:03,420 --> 00:50:07,440
but okay the cubans say they made it clear that

869
00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:09,940
they don't pose a security threat to the u.s they

870
00:50:09,940 --> 00:50:13,400
say they don't host any foreign military or intelligence bases

871
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,540
on the island the u.s readout of the visit came

872
00:50:16,540 --> 00:50:19,960
out from a cia official speaking to npr on condition

873
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,800
of anonymity and that official said that ratcliffe came with

874
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,420
a message for cuba and that's that the u.s wants

875
00:50:25,420 --> 00:50:29,760
to quote seriously engage on economic and security issues but

876
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,740
only Only if Cuba makes fundamental changes. I've spoken to

877
00:50:33,740 --> 00:50:36,940
Cuban officials and they have been fairly consistent in saying

878
00:50:36,940 --> 00:50:39,420
that they are open to economic reforms on the island.

879
00:50:39,780 --> 00:50:42,620
They're even open to U.S. investment, they say, but that

880
00:50:42,620 --> 00:50:45,340
they will not, especially not under pressure from the United

881
00:50:45,340 --> 00:50:47,620
States, give up their president or change their one party

882
00:50:47,620 --> 00:50:50,740
system or for that matter, their socialist ideology. I think

883
00:50:50,740 --> 00:50:54,640
the question is whether those things are the changes that

884
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,060
the U.S. considers fundamental. So what? I mean, does this

885
00:50:58,060 --> 00:51:00,220
point to a stalemate? neither side is going to budge?

886
00:51:00,420 --> 00:51:02,900
I think you could read it that way. And that's

887
00:51:02,900 --> 00:51:06,480
consequential because President Trump has threatened military action. But I

888
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,300
had a conversation with Lilian Guerra, a Cuban historian. Has

889
00:51:10,300 --> 00:51:15,320
he threatened military action? I'm wondering. I don't remember that.

890
00:51:15,540 --> 00:51:19,000
I mean, nothing to the likes of, you know, like

891
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,520
we're going to remove a civilization. I don't recall that.

892
00:51:23,580 --> 00:51:25,560
Neither side is going to budge? I think you could

893
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,260
read it that way. And that's consequential because President Trump

894
00:51:29,260 --> 00:51:32,000
has threatened military action. But I had a conversation with

895
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,060
Lilian Guerra, a Cuban historian at the University of Florida,

896
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,380
and she sees both sides softening. The Vatican, for example,

897
00:51:39,380 --> 00:51:42,320
has been instrumental in bridging gaps between the U.S. and

898
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,620
Cuba. And it's notable that Secretary of State Marco Rubio

899
00:51:45,620 --> 00:51:49,000
met recently with Pope Leo. The U.S. has also offered

900
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,640
Cuba $100 million in aid, and Cuba has said they would

901
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,280
take it. And importantly, Cuba also released a high-profile prisoner

902
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,880
on Thursday. Guerra's read is that the situation is so

903
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,840
dire in Cuba that both sides are afraid of an

904
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,940
explosion. Do you mind if I just insert one clip

905
00:52:05,940 --> 00:52:10,300
here? Go ahead. Because. But I want to mention something,

906
00:52:10,300 --> 00:52:12,680
which is the fact that it didn't make a lot

907
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,700
of sense that Rubio is going to meet with the

908
00:52:14,700 --> 00:52:17,560
Pope. Well, maybe he's a Catholic. But now it makes

909
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,520
a little sense that it's part of the scheme. Yes,

910
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,920
I have. And by the way, that kind of reconfirms

911
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,620
the fact that a communist system really should get rid

912
00:52:27,620 --> 00:52:32,740
of religions if it wants to succeed. I mean, the

913
00:52:32,740 --> 00:52:35,140
thesis in Russia was, let's get rid of the Russian

914
00:52:35,140 --> 00:52:39,400
Orthodox Church. Let's, you know, put it into the background

915
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:44,140
because we don't need outside influence, which the Pope is,

916
00:52:44,140 --> 00:52:48,300
telling people how to think or how to behave because

917
00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:52,920
it hurts the communist system. I just found it kind

918
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,020
of ironic that they screwed up that part of it.

919
00:52:57,300 --> 00:53:00,540
Well, so I just put a couple things together in

920
00:53:00,540 --> 00:53:03,880
my tiny brain. So we've got Rubio talking to the

921
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,000
Pope. The Pope is the head of the Catholic Church.

922
00:53:07,740 --> 00:53:12,140
What is the original acronym for CIA? Are you talking

923
00:53:12,140 --> 00:53:14,600
your tiny brain or the brain in your head? No,

924
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,920
that's the tiny brain in my head. It's very tiny.

925
00:53:17,860 --> 00:53:20,380
That other tiny brain is somewhere else. It has a

926
00:53:20,380 --> 00:53:23,880
mind of its own. Sorry, I was... Rubio talks to

927
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,520
the Pope. The Pope is the head of the Catholic

928
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,260
Church. What is the original acronym that we always laugh

929
00:53:29,260 --> 00:53:32,360
about for the CIA, of which the director was just

930
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,320
there? Catholics in Action. Catholics in Action. Now listen to

931
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,060
this. Just go to Jen, because, you know, Jen, Patrick

932
00:53:38,060 --> 00:53:40,480
and I were talking yesterday about the possibility, of course,

933
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,440
of this offer of $100 million that we're hearing now, that

934
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,180
Ireland appears willing to accept. Do we have a sense

935
00:53:48,180 --> 00:53:50,560
from this meeting, the CIA, what you are hearing as

936
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,300
well, What kind of reforms they're likely to see, right?

937
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,940
They want to see and how quickly. Well, Isa, in

938
00:53:57,940 --> 00:54:00,720
addition to those security reforms that Patrick laid out that

939
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:03,620
came up in that meeting with the CIA director yesterday,

940
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,340
they are also pushing what they describe as economic reforms

941
00:54:07,340 --> 00:54:11,500
on the island, essentially opening it up to private investment.

942
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,760
This was something that was a key focus of a

943
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,100
different visit by U.S. officials last month to the island

944
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:20,000
where they met with senior Cuban officials. And they were

945
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,060
saying they needed to make these economic reforms in addition

946
00:54:23,060 --> 00:54:27,100
to those security reforms in the near term or else

947
00:54:27,100 --> 00:54:31,580
they would continue to face a catastrophic situation. Now, it

948
00:54:31,580 --> 00:54:36,720
is clear here that these economic restrictions are going to

949
00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:41,680
remain in place unless these alleged reforms are taken by

950
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,380
the Cuban government. However, the State Department says that they

951
00:54:45,380 --> 00:54:49,420
are willing to offer this $100 million in humanitarian aid only

952
00:54:49,420 --> 00:54:53,060
if it is given through the Catholic Church or independent

953
00:54:53,060 --> 00:54:56,660
organizations on the ground. They say that this is the

954
00:54:56,660 --> 00:55:00,300
key string that is attached to this offer, that it

955
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,740
has to be distributed through these independent organizations. Now, a

956
00:55:03,740 --> 00:55:06,720
senior State Department official said that they have been in

957
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:09,060
touch. They have reached out to the Cuban government through

958
00:55:09,060 --> 00:55:12,380
what they described as a senior channel between the State

959
00:55:12,380 --> 00:55:16,600
Department and senior leadership in Havana about this aid. Cuban

960
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,140
officials have indicated that they would be willing to accept

961
00:55:19,140 --> 00:55:22,760
it if there weren't conditions on it. So now take

962
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:27,380
what you just said. So the State Department says, Rubio

963
00:55:27,380 --> 00:55:29,920
goes to the Pope and says, Hey, Pope, hey, Leo,

964
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,960
you're from Chicago. You know how to deal with me.

965
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,080
We can talk. We can talk business. So we're going

966
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,100
to give $100 million for Cuba. We want you guys to

967
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:40,500
be in charge of doling it out because there's nothing

968
00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:45,020
more embarrassing towards a communist system than the church coming

969
00:55:45,020 --> 00:55:49,100
in and telling them what to do. That's actually kind

970
00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:53,900
of genius. I love that. My donations clip, which is

971
00:55:53,900 --> 00:55:56,640
the third clip I've got on Cuba, has a similar

972
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,080
kind of, they bring the UN into it and how

973
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,680
they do it. We don't want to deal with them.

974
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,280
It's kind of interesting. It's similar to your clip, but

975
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,340
to play it anyway. The United Nations is trying to

976
00:56:06,340 --> 00:56:09,960
raise more money for aid to Cuba, where a major

977
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,240
energy crisis threatens health care and food production on the

978
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:17,840
island. But NPR's Michelle Kellerman reports the United States says

979
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,160
it won't contribute to the UN's efforts. The U.N.'s Office

980
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,240
for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs says it has raised

981
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:28,240
only 30 percent of the $94 million it needs for Cuba.

982
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,820
Fuel shortages have created what one top official called a

983
00:56:31,820 --> 00:56:36,420
multifaceted emergency. The State Department tells NPR that the U.S.

984
00:56:36,420 --> 00:56:39,620
will not give any money to the U.N. in Cuba,

985
00:56:39,620 --> 00:56:42,740
stating, quote, the U.N. in Cuba has long colluded with

986
00:56:42,740 --> 00:56:45,600
the regime. The statement goes on to explain that Secretary

987
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,620
of State Marco Rubio has offered $100 million in goods to

988
00:56:49,620 --> 00:56:53,440
be delivered by the Catholic Church or other, quote, independent

989
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:59,800
and respected organizations. This is like a huge FU. Like,

990
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,420
okay, you need some diesel. Clearly, you need some diesel.

991
00:57:03,980 --> 00:57:08,720
We got a Jesus boat with some diesel on it

992
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:11,280
coming your way. But, you know, we got to have

993
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,680
the Catholic guys run everything now. I mean, it's such

994
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:19,800
a slap. It's quite funny. It is funny. And also,

995
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,700
you know that they're going to do the right thing.

996
00:57:23,620 --> 00:57:26,780
Because you know, the whole point is stop the communists.

997
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,440
You know, if Rubio goes and says, well, you can't

998
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,740
be commies anymore. We're like, no, we don't want to

999
00:57:31,740 --> 00:57:34,560
do that. You know, that'll be a huge problem. But

1000
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,380
now you just bring in the Catholic Church. I'm like,

1001
00:57:36,380 --> 00:57:42,840
well, you know, we owe you one. I think it's

1002
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:47,380
funny. It's a very strange situation. And out of the

1003
00:57:47,380 --> 00:57:50,000
blue, I mean, this whole Cuban thing was not part

1004
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:54,600
of the campaign that Trump ran. It wasn't even discussed.

1005
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,360
It's like a whole new idea. Somehow, I think, you

1006
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,420
know, to be honest about it, it has to be

1007
00:58:01,420 --> 00:58:04,400
Rubio behind the whole thing. He's the Cuban in the

1008
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,280
administration. And the Catholic. And the Catholic. Yeah. And a

1009
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,380
friend of the Pope. Yeah, buddy-buddy. Trying to iron things

1010
00:58:11,380 --> 00:58:14,540
out between him and Trump in this phony baloney feud

1011
00:58:14,540 --> 00:58:18,060
that they really don't have. Yeah, precisely. But the media

1012
00:58:18,060 --> 00:58:22,220
loves that because, oh, Trump hates Catholics. Well, what's Rubio

1013
00:58:22,220 --> 00:58:25,680
doing there? It doesn't make any sense. It's good. I

1014
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,860
think, isn't J.D. Vance a born-again Catholic? Didn't he join

1015
00:58:29,860 --> 00:58:32,000
the Catholic Church late in life or something? I don't

1016
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,220
know. Is he a Catholic or is he a born-again

1017
00:58:34,220 --> 00:58:37,460
Christian? No, I think he's a Catholic. Look it up.

1018
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,480
I think he's a Catholic. Well, we don't look things

1019
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:40,940
up on this show. No, that's right. You can ask

1020
00:58:40,940 --> 00:58:43,200
your buddy. We consult the Book of Knowledge. Here we

1021
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,560
go. Is J.D. Vance a Catholic or just a regular

1022
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:53,100
Christian? Regular. Let's find out. All right, Book of Knowledge.

1023
00:58:54,700 --> 00:58:58,200
He's searching through all the pages. According to the Book

1024
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,380
of Knowledge, J.D. Vance is a Catholic of a very

1025
00:59:01,380 --> 00:59:05,840
specific type, having converted to the Catholic Church in 2019.

1026
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,860
He grew up loosely evangelical Christian, identified as an atheist

1027
00:59:10,860 --> 00:59:14,720
as a young man, then reconnected with Christianity during law

1028
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:20,460
school before his formal conversion. Thus, it has been written.

1029
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,600
Hmm. Well, I guess he is a Catholic then. Yes,

1030
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:30,840
exactly right. Yeah. Anyway, so that'll be fun. That'll be

1031
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,360
fun to see. But the big thing is investment in

1032
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:37,580
the island, American investment. Yeah, it's about time. I mean,

1033
00:59:37,580 --> 00:59:40,840
the Canadians have been investing there for a long time.

1034
00:59:40,700 --> 00:59:43,660
It's getting on our nerves. You know, they're putting money

1035
00:59:43,660 --> 00:59:46,840
in. They've got property. This is a great place for

1036
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,360
it should be a vacation paradise. It's a new island

1037
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:56,380
right near Florida. Yeah, 90 miles away. Jamaica's getting old,

1038
00:59:56,380 --> 01:00:00,440
you know. Virgin Islands, everything.

1039
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,680
Epstein Island. Everyone's been to all the islands. Let's go

1040
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:08,040
to Cuba. Cuba's always been big. It's always been, and

1041
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:12,240
it's got cigars. Cigars, cigars, cigars. Not only that, but

1042
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,860
the cigars are quite remarkable. Don't they have a drink

1043
01:00:16,860 --> 01:00:19,020
too? Don't they have some kind of drink that they're

1044
01:00:19,020 --> 01:00:26,240
good at? A Cuban. Okay, thanks. Very helpful. I don't

1045
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:33,140
know. Very helpful. Mojito? I have no idea. yes the

1046
01:00:33,140 --> 01:00:38,560
mojito all right okay where do you want to go

1047
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,880
now well i got a couple of shorties here that

1048
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,280
are that are interesting uh but let's say i've been

1049
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,600
wanting to get this out of the way cbs did

1050
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:52,240
a special on trolls on trolls yeah the psychology of

1051
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,780
a troll wait a minute did they interview anybody from

1052
01:00:54,780 --> 01:00:58,240
our troll room no they didn't interview any real trolls

1053
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:03,980
but the whole The subtext is that Trump is a

1054
01:01:03,980 --> 01:01:07,960
terrible person because he's a troll. Oh, I see. So

1055
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,000
they're trying to deconstruct Trump by doing a story about

1056
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:16,240
trolls. That's my guess. But here's the two part, two

1057
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,600
clips. They're very short, but entertaining. Listen up, everybody. Arthur

1058
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,820
Brooks can eat a plate of hot trash. Huh? That

1059
01:01:24,820 --> 01:01:27,960
was the first comment the CBS News contributor got on

1060
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,480
one of his online columns. and his earliest experience of

1061
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,300
internet trolls. One of the things that we have seen

1062
01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:39,200
since time immemorial is people with a pitchfork setting fire

1063
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,840
to people they don't like. That's right. Perhaps the main

1064
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,340
difference now is that they'd have to come back to

1065
01:01:44,340 --> 01:01:47,320
their families and communities, and now they can hide behind

1066
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:51,120
the anonymity of an anonymous Twitter handle. It's the perfect

1067
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,460
ecosystem for people that we call trolls today. And if

1068
01:01:54,460 --> 01:01:56,320
you spend any time on social media or any time

1069
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,000
in the comments section after a news article, you're going

1070
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,900
to find that it gets really toxic really quickly so

1071
01:02:01,900 --> 01:02:05,020
as a behavioral scientist and also as a writer in

1072
01:02:05,020 --> 01:02:08,300
public i wanted to know who are these people and

1073
01:02:08,300 --> 01:02:10,140
i started to do a little bit of research into

1074
01:02:10,140 --> 01:02:13,000
it and it turns out they're not like just you

1075
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,140
and me it turns out they're different they're from the

1076
01:02:15,140 --> 01:02:19,720
seven percent of the population that have sociopathic characteristics they're

1077
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,640
disproportionately drawn from what we call dark triads people with

1078
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:28,020
narcissism Machiavellianism, meaning I'm willing to hurt you and even

1079
01:02:28,020 --> 01:02:31,560
psychopathy they have psychopathic traits, meaning they feel no empathy

1080
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,500
or remorse, and they enjoy hurting you. And this is

1081
01:02:35,500 --> 01:02:38,200
why we can't say that these are ordinary people. Well,

1082
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,220
maybe these trolls are actually awesome people now, the way

1083
01:02:41,220 --> 01:02:45,980
he described it. These are our people. These are narcissists.

1084
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,760
Yeah, these are our people. They're psychopaths. This is an

1085
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,820
offhanded attack on Trump. It's still our people. 7% are

1086
01:02:53,820 --> 01:02:56,000
in the troll room. true it's our people we have

1087
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,840
a lot of we do have a disproportionate number of

1088
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:03,540
people that would qualify yes and they should be proud

1089
01:03:03,540 --> 01:03:06,420
of themselves they should be seven percent is actually fewer

1090
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:10,540
people than i expected yeah but you're disproportionately drawing from

1091
01:03:10,540 --> 01:03:13,080
that population they're the ones that are actually trying to

1092
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,140
start internet conflict they're the ones who are actually insulting

1093
01:03:16,140 --> 01:03:18,220
other people they're the ones who are actually trying to

1094
01:03:18,220 --> 01:03:20,740
get you all fired up because they enjoy seeing the

1095
01:03:20,740 --> 01:03:25,900
emotional turmoil yes yes that is exactly them i love

1096
01:03:25,900 --> 01:03:27,920
you people this is what you're doing yeah the jig

1097
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,100
is up we're on to you now we figured you

1098
01:03:30,100 --> 01:03:34,200
out cbs is on to you trollery trollery talking about

1099
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,500
you they're getting their thrills from it now there are

1100
01:03:36,060 --> 01:03:39,000
others who say they don't we actually have studies that

1101
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,500
ask internet trolls why they're trolling some of them say

1102
01:03:41,500 --> 01:03:44,600
for social justice but guess what else we find but

1103
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,380
people who are activists political activists, they tend to be

1104
01:03:48,380 --> 01:03:51,160
psychopathic as well. This is one of the things we

1105
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,640
need to keep in mind. On either side of the

1106
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,280
aisle. If you're a real activist and you want to

1107
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,980
fire people up and get people angry, there's a reason

1108
01:03:58,500 --> 01:04:00,620
you like people to be angry. So there are some

1109
01:04:00,620 --> 01:04:04,140
parallels there. There are. Wow. So that kind of reminds

1110
01:04:04,140 --> 01:04:07,860
me of that Twitter post you made. Which was? There

1111
01:04:07,860 --> 01:04:12,960
was some video about a guy explaining how psychos get

1112
01:04:12,500 --> 01:04:15,920
to the top of political... Oh yeah, the psychopaths taking

1113
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,140
over the world. Yeah, that was a very interesting analysis.

1114
01:04:20,140 --> 01:04:24,000
But Spencer Pratt falls into this category. Yeah. You know

1115
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:28,160
what's interesting is now other people are making videos for

1116
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,480
him. No, most people have made – he's made very

1117
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,480
few videos. The only ones he's made involve him, and

1118
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:40,460
he says this is basically doing an interview. No, they're

1119
01:04:40,460 --> 01:04:43,680
all made by third parties. There's about six or seven

1120
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,560
groups that do a lot of them, and there's a

1121
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,400
bunch of independents doing a bunch of them. They're all

1122
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,840
done by outside people. Not just one or two, all

1123
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,660
of them. That's why the style is so different from

1124
01:04:56,660 --> 01:04:59,320
one to the other. So, you know, Tina is very

1125
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,140
enamored by this. And she's kind of given up on

1126
01:05:02,140 --> 01:05:05,960
news. She's given up on our show. She doesn't even

1127
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,820
listen to our show anymore. Well. She's like, she's watching

1128
01:05:09,820 --> 01:05:17,240
dogs on TikTok, on Instagram, and people cooking with cheese.

1129
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:22,460
That's our competition. But. People cooking with too much cheese.

1130
01:05:22,020 --> 01:05:24,860
Too much cheese. And cats that play the piano. Yeah,

1131
01:05:24,860 --> 01:05:28,740
that's basically our group. Yes, and we're losing. We're losing

1132
01:05:28,740 --> 01:05:32,560
here. Well, we're losing now and again, I'd say. Now,

1133
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,580
but the Spencer Pratt stuff, she sees that. She says,

1134
01:05:35,580 --> 01:05:39,020
you know, this could spark a revolution and many more

1135
01:05:39,020 --> 01:05:43,420
people could do this. What do you think? Well, I

1136
01:05:43,420 --> 01:05:45,700
think that's what everybody – I mean, what she says

1137
01:05:45,700 --> 01:05:50,400
there is a commonplace as far as I'm concerned, which

1138
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,680
is that Pratt is doing what the future of politics

1139
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:59,200
is what he's doing. The issue, it seems to me,

1140
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,260
is that there's going to be some legal action taken

1141
01:06:02,260 --> 01:06:05,600
because of likenesses. But if you're famous, you can't do

1142
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:10,620
that. I'm thinking there's going to be some changes made

1143
01:06:10,620 --> 01:06:14,500
in the law. Because there has to be at some

1144
01:06:14,500 --> 01:06:19,660
point. because there's a lot of the kind of defamation

1145
01:06:19,660 --> 01:06:22,880
that is part of his videos or the ones that

1146
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,220
are being done on his behalf, let's say, because that's

1147
01:06:26,220 --> 01:06:29,820
what the situation is. Even though many of them identify

1148
01:06:29,820 --> 01:06:32,480
what group is doing them at the end, there's usually

1149
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,280
an identification. Not always, but a lot of times. Okay,

1150
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,920
this is interesting that you bring this up because I

1151
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,800
think we're seeing the law change in many different ways.

1152
01:06:41,700 --> 01:06:48,060
And you identified one early on about where parents are

1153
01:06:48,060 --> 01:06:52,260
going to be penalized for things their idiot kids do.

1154
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,920
Yeah. Which is, I mean, if you... Sneaking up on

1155
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:01,240
us. But it's really quite insane. I mean, if you

1156
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,880
look at the American laws, most of them were written

1157
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,540
based upon biblical laws. And this is the exact opposite.

1158
01:07:09,540 --> 01:07:12,480
You know, scripture says, you know, no parent shall be

1159
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,880
responsible for what his child does or the other way

1160
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:20,020
around. And so this is such a diversion from U.S.

1161
01:07:20,020 --> 01:07:22,440
law and the origin of it from a long, long

1162
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:28,340
time ago. And so I was very surprised to hear

1163
01:07:28,340 --> 01:07:32,540
Janine Pirro, Judge Janine, who is now the attorney general

1164
01:07:32,540 --> 01:07:36,500
for District of Columbia, when she said this. And as

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01:07:36,500 --> 01:07:41,120
we grapple with this problem, there is one area that

1166
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:46,880
hasn't been discussed. Parental involvement has been a noted gap

1167
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,700
in any discussion. And I am here to say, as

1168
01:07:50,700 --> 01:07:54,180
the United States attorney in the District of Columbia, that

1169
01:07:54,180 --> 01:08:00,040
ends today. Starting today, my office will aggressively prosecute parents

1170
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:05,640
under D.C.'s curfew law, and the specific statute that we

1171
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:12,000
will use is a violation of D.C. Code 22-811, and

1172
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:17,740
it involves contributing to the delinquency of a minor. This

1173
01:08:17,740 --> 01:08:23,000
statute makes it unlawful for an adult to enable, facilitate,

1174
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:27,880
or permit a minor to engage in delinquent acts. The

1175
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,840
penalty is up to six months imprisonment. So if the

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01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:36,700
evidence shows the parent knew or should have known or

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01:08:36,700 --> 01:08:41,880
permitted or failed to prevent participation, we're going to charge

1178
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,200
them. And if you drop your kid off and you

1179
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,440
fail to supervise them or you let them skip school

1180
01:08:48,440 --> 01:08:53,440
to join the chaos, you are going to face fines,

1181
01:08:53,440 --> 01:09:00,520
court-ordered classes, and possible jail time. I'm against this. Why?

1182
01:09:01,480 --> 01:09:03,960
You don't think there should be any parent responsibility whatsoever

1183
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:09,240
for delinquent kids who've gone nuts and they're unsupervised because

1184
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:14,680
the parents are lacking substance? certain skills yes yes however

1185
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,500
i think the kids need to be penalized otherwise they

1186
01:09:18,500 --> 01:09:21,860
get penalized no they don't well if their parents are

1187
01:09:21,860 --> 01:09:23,460
taken away they sure do because they're going to be

1188
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,840
locked up in a foster care home i think you

1189
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:31,160
put these kids into you tase them first so but

1190
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:35,060
there's things changing in our laws and i just i'm

1191
01:09:35,060 --> 01:09:36,640
not there's a lot of things i don't agree with

1192
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,980
i'm just i'm not entirely on board with that one

1193
01:09:38,980 --> 01:09:42,660
man she's at least she's not clear about the kids.

1194
01:09:42,540 --> 01:09:44,880
It's like, you know, everything is now the parents' fault.

1195
01:09:46,260 --> 01:09:51,100
Eh. So, Rob Carty, our constitutional lawyer, suits and boots,

1196
01:09:52,340 --> 01:09:56,720
he was so jacked up this week. He's like, this

1197
01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:00,440
is huge. And for his business,

1198
01:10:00,020 --> 01:10:03,620
It is huge, but I think it also is going

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01:10:03,620 --> 01:10:06,480
in a direction that we would like to see. This

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01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:12,840
is a change in liability from a court ruling by

1201
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,660
the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court ruled unanimously to allow

1202
01:10:16,660 --> 01:10:19,080
a man who lost part of his leg in a

1203
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:23,560
trucking crash to sue a major logistics company that hired

1204
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,740
that truck. The man's attorneys argued that the truck driver

1205
01:10:26,740 --> 01:10:30,200
had been cited for careless driving in another crash months

1206
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:35,040
earlier and that the broker, C.H. Robinson, should share liability.

1207
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:39,560
Last month, CBS News chief investigative correspondent Jim Axelrod spoke

1208
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,560
to families who lost loved ones in similar crashes who

1209
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:50,100
could also be impacted by this ruling. This is what

1210
01:10:50,100 --> 01:10:54,340
Ohio State troopers confronted, responding to a crash outside of

1211
01:10:54,340 --> 01:10:58,820
Cincinnati the day before Christmas in 2022. Can you hear

1212
01:10:58,820 --> 01:11:03,820
me? A tractor trailer heading north on I-75 crossed the

1213
01:11:03,820 --> 01:11:08,660
median and slammed into two vehicles. They were texting me

1214
01:11:08,660 --> 01:11:11,340
throughout their drive, saying how close they were, where they

1215
01:11:11,340 --> 01:11:15,680
were, and then I heard nothing. Amy Ross had planned

1216
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:19,380
to host Christmas for her family that year. In those

1217
01:11:19,380 --> 01:11:24,840
two cars, her mother, Kimberly, a sister, Lauren, another sister,

1218
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:31,000
Karen, and brother-in-law, Jeremy Bainey. and that's when we got

1219
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,000
in touch with the police and the police said they're

1220
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,940
all gone and there was nowhere to go there was

1221
01:11:36,940 --> 01:11:40,440
no hospitals to go visit them at the driver of

1222
01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:43,860
the truck a cuban national with a green card had

1223
01:11:43,860 --> 01:11:46,960
left miami two days earlier in a truck that police

1224
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:51,740
said had a stolen federal registration number a toxicology report

1225
01:11:51,740 --> 01:11:56,160
showed elevated levels of cocaine and methamphetamines in his system

1226
01:11:56,160 --> 01:12:02,200
after the crash the driver fled back to cuba how

1227
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,820
does a guy like this end up hauling goods for

1228
01:12:04,820 --> 01:12:09,340
walmart i don't think that this driver or many others

1229
01:12:09,340 --> 01:12:12,120
like him end up on the road but for the

1230
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:17,860
broker turning a blind eye so now the brokers are

1231
01:12:17,860 --> 01:12:21,880
going to be liable for these crap drivers that they

1232
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:25,580
hire. And here's, this guy, he does a YouTube, the

1233
01:12:25,580 --> 01:12:27,980
mother trucker. It's just short, but a little color to

1234
01:12:27,980 --> 01:12:30,780
it. To put it plain and simple, a lot of

1235
01:12:30,780 --> 01:12:33,400
owner operators are saying this is a big win because

1236
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:38,260
the Supreme Court just had a unanimous ruling saying that

1237
01:12:38,260 --> 01:12:43,340
brokers are pretty much accountable for negligency when hiring any

1238
01:12:43,340 --> 01:12:48,740
motor carrier, right, that is unsafe. You know, and they

1239
01:12:48,740 --> 01:12:53,820
are including illegal alien truck drivers in this. So is

1240
01:12:53,820 --> 01:12:55,800
this a big win? Because when you look at this

1241
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:59,660
and you're trying to book loads, the shippers, they want

1242
01:12:59,660 --> 01:13:02,520
to pay top dollars at times. Not all bad times.

1243
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,420
And then they have the broker that's supposed to make

1244
01:13:05,420 --> 01:13:08,220
sure that happens. And what do they do? They pick

1245
01:13:08,220 --> 01:13:12,460
really crappy carriers to haul their loads. And they don't

1246
01:13:12,460 --> 01:13:15,340
care. They just want that extra money going to their

1247
01:13:15,340 --> 01:13:18,560
pocket and get some random carrier to do the job.

1248
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,980
And then that person gets into an accident. And when

1249
01:13:21,980 --> 01:13:25,840
they do, there's no accountability on the broker. But now

1250
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,740
that changes. Yeah, not only is it a change for

1251
01:13:28,740 --> 01:13:34,820
subpar truckers, haulers, loaders, whatever you want to call them,

1252
01:13:34,820 --> 01:13:39,240
but how about autonomous trucks? And with this type of

1253
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:43,520
liability changed by the Supreme Court, could we see perhaps

1254
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:50,220
vaccine manufacturers coming up soon? well something's got to give

1255
01:13:50,220 --> 01:13:56,220
on the vaccines or or pharma providers in general which

1256
01:13:56,220 --> 01:13:57,920
is one of the reasons i'm glad to see bill

1257
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,020
cassidy was came in third in a in a three-man

1258
01:14:01,020 --> 01:14:03,820
race and got kicked out of his senate seat in

1259
01:14:03,820 --> 01:14:08,140
louisiana this is the creep who who condemned you know

1260
01:14:08,140 --> 01:14:11,180
wasn't going to vote for bobby kennedy he's a big

1261
01:14:11,180 --> 01:14:15,760
promoter of uh of the uh of the vaccine for

1262
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:20,740
hepatitis b on for babies he is a one of

1263
01:14:20,740 --> 01:14:25,560
the top 10 recipients of pharma money he's also the

1264
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:29,800
guy when he was hassling kennedy demanded that kennedy see

1265
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:35,140
him twice a month to confirm to confirm that he

1266
01:14:35,140 --> 01:14:39,820
wasn't going to change the schedule for 86 vaccines for

1267
01:14:39,820 --> 01:14:43,580
infants. I mean, the guy was just a bad actor,

1268
01:14:43,580 --> 01:14:46,240
and he finally, you know, Trump wanted him out, and

1269
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,180
he got out because he's also voted for Trump's impeachment

1270
01:14:49,180 --> 01:14:52,600
on the second go-round of the impeachment when Trump wasn't

1271
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,700
even president anymore. Yeah, it's great. The guy's a total

1272
01:14:55,700 --> 01:14:58,380
creep. I mean, why was this guy even in office?

1273
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:08,220
Oh, this brings me to Hantavirus. So this is the,

1274
01:15:08,220 --> 01:15:13,020
what is this guy? Admiral, what is that guy's name?

1275
01:15:13,300 --> 01:15:17,860
Admiral, Admiral. He's the Admiral. It's just him saying everything's

1276
01:15:17,860 --> 01:15:21,760
okay. Zero Americans are sick with Hantavirus. Brian Christine is

1277
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,580
his name. linked to that cruise ship docked Spain. U.S.

1278
01:15:24,580 --> 01:15:27,960
health officials confirming for the first time, no Americans are

1279
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,600
believed to be infected with the Andes strain, including the

1280
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,620
passenger who ended up replacing the ship doctor who initially

1281
01:15:33,620 --> 01:15:37,020
tested positive. Further tests actually show he may have never

1282
01:15:37,020 --> 01:15:39,680
been sick with the disease. In total, health authorities are

1283
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,240
watching 41 Americans for the virus, including 16 who were

1284
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,960
never on that ship but were potentially exposed to one

1285
01:15:45,740 --> 01:15:48,200
of the cruise ship passengers who got on a plane.

1286
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,840
All right, that's the report. Here's the admiral himself. Let

1287
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,600
me be crystal clear. The risk of Hantavirus to the

1288
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:59,000
general public remains very, very low. The Andes variant of

1289
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,760
this virus does not spread easily, and it requires prolonged,

1290
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:07,180
close contact with someone who is already symptomatic. Even so,

1291
01:16:07,180 --> 01:16:10,620
we have taken this situation very seriously from the very

1292
01:16:10,620 --> 01:16:15,200
start. We've taken it seriously across HHS and particularly through

1293
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,940
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. And I'm proud

1294
01:16:18,940 --> 01:16:21,780
to see many of my U.S. Public Health Service officers

1295
01:16:21,420 --> 01:16:26,780
have been actively engaged in the response. The CDC rapidly

1296
01:16:26,780 --> 01:16:30,860
activated its emergency operations center. It deployed medical teams to

1297
01:16:30,860 --> 01:16:35,960
assess passengers and coordinated closely with international partners. They have

1298
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:40,120
notified state health departments. They have initiated monitoring of potentially

1299
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:44,000
exposed individuals. and they have issued clinical guidance through the

1300
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,560
Health Alert Network. And they have also brought together national

1301
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:51,440
partners through coordination calls. They've developed tools and resources to

1302
01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:55,120
support public health decision making. Well, the point being for

1303
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,520
that clip is the guy sounds like he's a typical

1304
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,900
boring guy and he's just, you know, he's going through

1305
01:16:59,900 --> 01:17:02,220
the motions, but he has it kind of covered and

1306
01:17:02,220 --> 01:17:05,420
he's not hair on fire like we're all going to

1307
01:17:05,420 --> 01:17:08,260
die. I thought this was going to blow over in

1308
01:17:08,260 --> 01:17:10,800
two days and this has been like two weeks already,

1309
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,300
isn't it? oh yeah it's not going to blow over

1310
01:17:13,300 --> 01:17:15,840
but then i then then so this is the new

1311
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,580
guy admiral christine so now we go to cnn and

1312
01:17:19,580 --> 01:17:21,540
then listen to this tonight we have a cnn exclusive

1313
01:17:21,540 --> 01:17:24,480
k-file and covering new details about one of the trump

1314
01:17:24,480 --> 01:17:28,140
administration's top public health officials who led the public federal

1315
01:17:28,140 --> 01:17:32,020
response this week on hantavirus. Dr. Brian Christine stood before

1316
01:17:32,020 --> 01:17:36,400
reporters promising a response grounded in science and grounded in

1317
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:41,380
transparency. But before joining the administration, Christine was an Alabama

1318
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:45,100
urologist with little experience in federal public health. He specialized

1319
01:17:45,100 --> 01:17:48,900
in penile implants and once hosted a YouTube show called

1320
01:17:48,900 --> 01:17:52,000
The Erection Connection. You coughed over it. I want to

1321
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,320
make sure you heard about it. I want to make

1322
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:58,100
sure you heard about his YouTube show. Penile implants. And

1323
01:17:58,100 --> 01:18:02,980
once hosted a YouTube show called The Erection Connection. Which

1324
01:18:02,980 --> 01:18:06,980
I need an end of show mix. Someday we'll find

1325
01:18:06,980 --> 01:18:11,000
it. Erection Connection. Anyway, so they're burning. Who are you

1326
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,080
doing? They're burning this guy. Called The Erection Connection on

1327
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,760
his procedures. K-File also found a history of far right

1328
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:23,840
commentary and conspiracy-tinged smarts, including comparing the Biden administration to

1329
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:27,880
Nazi Germany, questioning the 2020 election, and suggesting the COVID

1330
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:32,020
vaccine did little to stop the pandemic. So, okay, it's

1331
01:18:32,020 --> 01:18:34,900
funny. I think the erection connection is a great find.

1332
01:18:35,980 --> 01:18:41,920
But here's CNN burning the admiral over at HHS. The

1333
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,740
previous admiral over at HHS, of which they never said

1334
01:18:45,740 --> 01:18:50,160
anything bad, was literally a dude in a dress. Yeah,

1335
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:54,400
Rachel. Rachel Levine. Rachel Levine. Literally a guy in a

1336
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:58,640
dress. Oh, never a bad word about her, him, it.

1337
01:18:59,780 --> 01:19:05,960
Come on. You nailed it. Yeah. Yeah, well, meanwhile, it

1338
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:10,440
doesn't make any difference because Ebola's back. Yeah. Woo, finally.

1339
01:19:11,060 --> 01:19:13,560
Yeah, yeah. When it rains, it pours, people. I got

1340
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:17,000
two clips, one from the comparative, the CBS clip and

1341
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,940
a BBC clip. You can play either one. How about

1342
01:19:19,940 --> 01:19:23,600
CBS first? There are growing concerns over yet another deadly

1343
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:27,680
virus outbreak. Doctors are monitoring an Ebola epidemic in Africa

1344
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,740
that may be to blame for dozens of deaths so

1345
01:19:30,740 --> 01:19:34,420
far. CBS's Lilia Luciano has the alarming developments and speaks

1346
01:19:34,420 --> 01:19:38,300
to a U.S. ER doctor who survived the virus. Survive!

1347
01:19:38,780 --> 01:19:42,020
In Congo's Eturi province, health officials are battling a new

1348
01:19:42,020 --> 01:19:46,840
Ebola outbreak. The Africa CDC says there are 246 suspected

1349
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,840
cases and at least 65 people dead, the highest death

1350
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,780
toll from the disease in years. The World Health Organization

1351
01:19:53,780 --> 01:19:57,440
is concerned. We know very well that the country has

1352
01:19:57,440 --> 01:20:00,440
experience, but the region where it is happened,

1353
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:04,940
is highly volatile with the humanitarian situation going on and

1354
01:20:04,940 --> 01:20:09,220
the population moving around from South Sudan to Uganda and

1355
01:20:09,220 --> 01:20:13,000
other parts. Government officials confirmed the outbreak has now spread

1356
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:18,280
to Uganda. Medical professionals seem very concerned about the possibility

1357
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,280
or the ability to contain this. Why is that compared

1358
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,820
to other times? It's already a big outbreak at the

1359
01:20:23,820 --> 01:20:25,900
point that we're hearing about it. There have already been

1360
01:20:25,900 --> 01:20:28,560
a number of deaths. And this is a strain of

1361
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,060
Ebola for which we have no treatment, no vaccines. The

1362
01:20:32,060 --> 01:20:35,240
virus spreads through direct contact with blood and other bodily

1363
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:39,640
fluids. Dr. Craig Spencer contracted Ebola while working in Guinea

1364
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:43,940
in 2014. Healthcare workers are the group that I'm really

1365
01:20:43,940 --> 01:20:47,440
concerned about because they have very close contact with people

1366
01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:51,340
when they're most contagious, particularly around the time of folks'

1367
01:20:51,340 --> 01:20:55,520
death. And the U.S. has been the single largest external

1368
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:59,240
player in Ebola response in the past. Now experts are

1369
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:03,980
worried that the dismantling of USAID and the U.S. withdrawing

1370
01:21:03,980 --> 01:21:06,940
from the World Health Organization could have an impact in

1371
01:21:06,940 --> 01:21:11,920
the global efforts to contain the virus. Let the World

1372
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:15,100
Health Organization do it. Yeah, Bill Gates. Why does USAID

1373
01:21:15,100 --> 01:21:17,840
have to do everything? They can't because they don't exist

1374
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:23,040
anymore. Well, good. Go to the BBC. The Democratic Republic

1375
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,840
of Congo's health minister has said the strain of Ebola,

1376
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,340
which has broken out in recent days, has a very

1377
01:21:29,340 --> 01:21:33,100
high death rate. Samuel Roge Kamba said there was no

1378
01:21:33,100 --> 01:21:38,260
vaccine or specific treatment available. The outbreak has caused 80

1379
01:21:38,260 --> 01:21:44,480
deaths out of nearly 330 suspected cases. Shinga Nyoka reports.

1380
01:21:44,220 --> 01:21:47,140
reports. The numbers of the dead and sick have been

1381
01:21:47,140 --> 01:21:51,240
rising rapidly since this outbreak was declared, mainly in two

1382
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,700
gold mining border towns, where it's feared that high population

1383
01:21:54,700 --> 01:21:58,780
movement could spread the disease further. The African Union's public

1384
01:21:58,780 --> 01:22:02,560
health agency has called for an increase in cross-border monitoring

1385
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:07,800
after Uganda confirmed its first fatality. The 59-year-old man had

1386
01:22:07,660 --> 01:22:11,900
recently traveled from the DRC. Officials have called for international

1387
01:22:11,900 --> 01:22:16,460
assistance to contain what is now the DRC's 17th outbreak.

1388
01:22:16,780 --> 01:22:20,560
World news from the BBC. I think I have one

1389
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:23,920
clip from CBS that has something additional in here. This

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is the Democratic Republic of Congo's 17th outbreak of the

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deadly viral disease, and it's unfolding against the backdrop of

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a deepening security crisis where clashes between rival militia groups

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have killed dozens of civilians in recent weeks. Abdir Rahman

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Mahmoud is with the World Health Organization. Well, we know

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very well that the country has experience, but the region

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where it is happening is highly volatile with the humanitarian

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situation going on and the population moving around. So our

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response is to stand with the regional government and the

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country neighbor in terms of solidarity to show again that

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they can control this outbreak. And Ebola was first discovered

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back in 1976 in what is now the DRC and

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is thought to have spread from bats. Now this morning,

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01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:19,540
health experts are warning. Bats! Those Africans are eating bats!

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Yeah, it's a problem. Yeah. How many times have we

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01:23:26,100 --> 01:23:28,400
been through an Ebola outbreak on this show in 18

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years? I think it was four. At least. And then

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we had two Zikas, four Ebolas, two Zikas, one COVID.

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And now we had three SARS. We had SARS, GARS,

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or whatever that other one was. And we had the

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swine flu. MERS. MERS and SARS. MERS and SARS and

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then COVID-19. COVID-19. And now Hanta virus, which is kind

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of cool. We've got a new one. Well, this is

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the second. We had a second. I think we've had

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three incidents of Hanta. We had the current one. We

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had the one with what's-his-name's wife. And then we had

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one earlier, maybe 10 years ago, that was a Hanta

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discussion. I don't remember from 10 years. I don't think

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we've ever had a discussion on the show about Hanta.

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I looked it up at bingit.io. I couldn't find any.

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I did promise I would look into the resignation of

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McCary over the flavored vapes. Do you remember this? You've

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01:24:29,380 --> 01:24:31,460
muted yourself. I don't know how that happens. I mean,

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that has literally never happened to me. I can tell

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you how it happens. I think Tina would love for

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me to mute myself sometimes, but not on the show.

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Yeah, I'm sure she would. Not on the show. But

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beside the point, what happens is I get these pop-ups.

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Pop-ups? Yeah, pop-ups. What world are you living in? What

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happened to a blocker? Blockers don't work anymore. I mean,

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I have, for example, I got my AVG antivirus-free. There's

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There's your problem right there. Your AVG antivirus free expires

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in six days. This is a pop-up. Renew it, man.

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So I click on it, but instead of clicking on

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it, I click on the mute button. Oh. Because it's

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overlaying it and it just misses. I don't know. It's

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an accident. Okay. Well, it's okay. So I promised I

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would look into this resignation from the FDA director, administrator,

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I think it is, over flavored vapes. So let's get

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the full story. And I think I've figured out what

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01:25:37,860 --> 01:25:41,300
this was really about. Children's National in D.C. is sharing

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its concerns after the FDA's decision to authorize fruit flavored

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vapes. And that move played a role in the agency

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leader's resignation yesterday. Sunrise's Max Marcilla joins us live. Morning,

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Max. What does this authorization really mean, and why is

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it driving this pushback? Well, Hillary, this authorization means that

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one company called Glass can now market two of its

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flavored e-cigarette products. They're blueberry and mango flavored. Listen to

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this. Listen to this device. They're called Gold and Sapphire.

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And while advocates of this move are hopeful that it

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could help adults transition away from traditional cigarettes, there are

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many concerns being raised, especially for young people. So look,

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big picture, teen vaping is at its lowest point in

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01:26:27,620 --> 01:26:31,360
several years, and these new devices will have a digital

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age verification system. But we spoke with Dr. Susan Wally,

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the chief of hospital medicine at Children's National, and she's

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01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,640
concerned that teenagers could still find a workaround to the

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new preventative technology. Look, she says these fruit-flavored devices are

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extremely addictive and oftentimes are young person's first experience with

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tobacco. We certainly are concerned as public health advocates, pediatricians

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and teachers that, you know, our young people will get

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the idea, oh, well, maybe this means that it's OK

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if the FDA has authorized it and it couldn't be

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further from the truth. So so one I followed this

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because I'm a vapor and I totally disagree with all

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these Chinese These crap vapes that who knows what's in

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them, that'll probably kill you. And then they came up

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with it'll cost you a million dollars per flavor that

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you want to have the FDA approve. And this glass

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company, which is some outfit in Los Angeles, they came

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up with, oh, well, you have to link it with

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Bluetooth to your phone, and then with a government ID,

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I'm like, come on, this is all nuts. But this

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is, there is something going on here, two sides. One

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is the president, who promised this to young MAGA, I

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can't remember it, but I think he did. Like, oh,

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we're going to let you vape, kids. Vote for me.

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And he also was having a meeting at one of

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his golf courses with the big boys from tobacco who

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are now switching from combustible products to nicotine, just pure

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nicotine products. And they've spent a lot of money on

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his election campaign, and they want this. They want the

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vapes to be legal. and Durbin talked about this in

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01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:27,180
the Capitol. Tobacco companies have donated generously to Donald Trump's

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election, his inauguration, his great Gatsby ballroom, with the expectation

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of favoring the treatment President Trump's administration has delivered for

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tobacco. Last week, the Food and Drug Administration... And I

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just have to say, it has nothing to do with

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tobacco. Nicotine is nicotine. It's not tobacco. And, you know,

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there's all kinds of studies that say it can be

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good. You know, having too much of anything is probably

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01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,820
never good, but it's not necessarily going to kill you.

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Chinese vapes will probably kill you. Bad vapes, yeah, can

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01:29:01,460 --> 01:29:05,340
create formaldehyde. You can get pieces of... Yeah, and the

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problem with cigarettes themselves is the tar. Yeah, but Durbin

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makes it sound like it's all about tobacco, which it's

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not. But it is true that the tobacco industry has

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been moving to nicotine, and they certainly did support this

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president. Did something it had never done before. After pressure

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01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:25,940
from President Trump, the FDA authorized the first ever flavored

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e-cigarettes. Why is that important? That's what lures the children

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into this deadly habit. Notice e-cigarettes. We're not calling it

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01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:38,940
vapes. We're calling it e-cigarettes. Deadly habits. Scientists, doctors, and

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01:29:38,940 --> 01:29:43,440
parents, even the FDA's own studies, all acknowledge sweet and

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01:29:43,440 --> 01:29:48,720
fruity flavored e-cigarettes are responsible for addicting our children. Health

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01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,340
experts I've spoken to believe the true number of high

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01:29:51,340 --> 01:29:57,000
school kids vaping is at least 40%. 40% of our

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01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:00,440
kids vaping. Yeah, the same 40% who ate vaping.

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nicely colored Fruit Loops. I mean, none of it's good

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01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:08,520
for our kids. The number's bullcrap. Of course. Teachers, principals,

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and students acknowledge these are not kids vaping to quit

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01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:16,680
cigarette smoking. These are kids who first became addicted to

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01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:21,440
nicotine because of flavored vaping. Why would an administration supposedly

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01:30:21,440 --> 01:30:27,020
committed to making America healthy again unleash this new wave

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01:30:27,020 --> 01:30:32,360
of addiction on our children? formaldehyde chromium heavy metals like

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01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:36,560
nickel and lead all are present in e-cigarettes a recent

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01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:39,660
study found that vaping is likely to cause cancer oh

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yeah we should not trust big tobacco when they promise

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01:30:42,980 --> 01:30:46,360
they won't market to kids we know better all right

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01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:50,580
so obviously this was kind of funny and kimball made

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01:30:50,580 --> 01:30:52,760
some jokes about it and then you have the reported

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01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,600
beef between the president and his head of the FDA.

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According to Wall Street Journal, Trump spent this weekend angrily

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01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:03,500
bullying FDA Commissioner Marty McCary, seen here moments after he

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01:31:03,500 --> 01:31:08,000
graduated from the School of Stock Footage Doctors. He berated

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01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:12,240
him for delaying approval of flavored electronic cigarettes. You may

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01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:16,220
remember Trump promised young MAGA that he would save vaping,

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01:31:16,220 --> 01:31:19,000
which is as noble a cause as there is. And

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01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:21,540
so like a kid giving up his lunch money, the

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01:31:21,540 --> 01:31:26,020
FDA finally authorized cotton candy flavored e-cigarettes. This is what's

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01:31:26,020 --> 01:31:29,860
important to him. Vape pens. He's definitely been in Florida

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01:31:29,860 --> 01:31:33,780
too long. All right. So I got no argument. I

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like vaping. I think it's great. I think it should

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01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,580
be easier for people to make safe vapes. That's not

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01:31:38,580 --> 01:31:42,120
the point. This guy was pushed out for very different

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01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:45,700
reasons. And it surfaced on an interview on CNBC. You

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01:31:45,700 --> 01:31:47,700
know, to put it kind of bluntly, you've been getting

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01:31:47,700 --> 01:31:52,580
some not great press. And, you know, I'm curious just

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01:31:52,580 --> 01:31:56,740
today, Paranoia, turmoil, and backlash inside the FDA under Marty

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01:31:56,740 --> 01:32:00,160
McCary, President Trump's Marty McCary problem. These are very recent

1540
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:03,620
stories, Bloomberg and the Wall Street Journal. A lot of

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01:32:03,620 --> 01:32:08,760
it does stem from frustration with patient populations and physicians,

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01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:13,040
which what they say is inexplicable decisions by the FDA

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01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:17,600
to not approve drugs. Replimune, for example, being a key

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01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:21,040
one. How do you respond to this overall criticism that,

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01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:24,880
I mean, continues to this very moment? Yeah. Yeah, I

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01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:26,540
think that article in The Wall Street Journal is the

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01:32:26,540 --> 01:32:31,780
ninth article they've posted in that opinion section begging for

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01:32:31,780 --> 01:32:35,380
Replimune's approval. I don't work for Replimune. I work for

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01:32:35,380 --> 01:32:37,920
the American people, and I stand by the scientists at

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01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:41,140
the FDA. Three independent teams arrived at the same conclusions.

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01:32:41,340 --> 01:32:43,820
On my watch, we have not done corrupt sweetheart deals.

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01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:47,380
What we have done is followed the science. So every

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01:32:47,380 --> 01:32:50,980
accept or reject decision at the FDA on my watch

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01:32:50,980 --> 01:32:54,820
has been the accept or reject recommendation of the primary

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01:32:54,820 --> 01:32:57,820
review teams at the agency. And, you know, I've spent

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01:32:57,820 --> 01:33:00,880
my whole career taking care of cancer patients. To suggest

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01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,420
that we want cancer patients to die is a little

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01:33:03,420 --> 01:33:10,380
offensive. So it's about Replimoon. Replimoon has all the big

1559
01:33:10,380 --> 01:33:13,900
boys behind it. I mean, you've got BlackRock. You've got

1560
01:33:13,900 --> 01:33:18,420
everyone has invested in this one company to make Replimune.

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01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:22,640
And it was supposed to be Replimune, isn't it? Well,

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01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:26,280
Replimune. Yes. Replimune. Are you familiar with it? Because it's

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not in the market. I hope you're not using it.

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01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:33,040
I'm sure they'd love to pass it along. Well, no.

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01:33:33,440 --> 01:33:35,840
He was saying. There's a whole group called the Replimune

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01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:39,480
group. Yes. But he was saying, no, this thing is

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01:33:39,480 --> 01:33:43,540
no good. And these guys got not one, not two,

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01:33:43,540 --> 01:33:46,660
not three, but nine articles in the Wall Street Journal

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01:33:46,660 --> 01:33:50,840
opinion editors pushing for this drug. Well, final question, because

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01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:53,760
you referenced, you used the word corrupt when you described

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01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,740
sort of corporations. I'm just curious as to what you're

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01:33:56,740 --> 01:34:01,000
talking about. I'm talking about a small set of companies

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01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,160
have a trial that doesn't go their way. They call

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01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:05,480
you, they call CNBC, they call Wall Street Journal. They're

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01:34:05,480 --> 01:34:08,080
running ads on your network nonstop. and they say, hey,

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01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,120
this is wrong, the drug actually works when the trial

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01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:12,920
shows it didn't work. And they dial up tremendous pressure

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01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,940
in the media to drum up people, spin them up

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01:34:15,940 --> 01:34:19,760
on results that don't match the data that we see.

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01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,820
And what you see as a result are nine articles

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01:34:22,820 --> 01:34:26,520
by a couple editors in the opinion desk at the

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01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,420
Wall Street Journal pushing for one drug. What do you

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01:34:29,420 --> 01:34:31,920
call that? I know. Well, they would call it being

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01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:35,520
compassionate to the 8,000 people with melanoma who frontline treatment

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01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,340
failed. cancer surgeon i mean if there's anything that'll help

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01:34:38,340 --> 01:34:40,760
cancer patients a hundred percent we're going to get it

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01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:44,500
to them so final clip about what was wrong all

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01:34:44,500 --> 01:34:47,560
right well if you do that wait he's a cancer

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01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:50,160
surgeon i thought he was a dick surgeon no this

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01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:52,460
is a different guy this is the fda guy i

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01:34:52,460 --> 01:34:55,900
get mixed up you're still 15 minutes behind i am

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01:34:55,900 --> 01:34:58,200
yeah all right well if you do that i mean

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01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:00,260
i i just want to go through because to the

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extent that i've been exposed to one story it has

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01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:04,260
been this one i've talked to the ceo as well

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01:35:04,260 --> 01:35:25,360
and any number of other people I am, yeah. they

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01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:27,500
see? Look, I'm not going to talk about an individual

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01:35:27,500 --> 01:35:30,680
product, but if you read what we call our complete

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01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:34,480
response letter, you will see the details of the FDA's

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01:35:34,480 --> 01:35:39,200
logic, and you will see some of those things shown

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01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:42,540
not to be correct. Can you give me something here

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01:35:42,540 --> 01:35:45,060
to hang on to just understand what some of the

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01:35:45,060 --> 01:35:46,980
details would be? So we publish it. We publish all

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01:35:46,980 --> 01:35:49,760
of it. So for example, if you want to see

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01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:53,080
whether or not a drug adds a benefit to cancer

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01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:57,420
patients, you run a control group where patients don't get

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01:35:57,420 --> 01:36:01,220
the drug. The FDA clearly recommended that control group. The

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01:36:01,220 --> 01:36:04,280
company clearly did not do that control group. And so

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01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,560
by law, we can only approve drugs with, quote, substantial

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01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:09,300
evidence. You went back and forth with them about that.

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01:36:09,300 --> 01:36:10,880
Didn't they say that that would be unfair to those

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01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:14,240
patients given the efficacy of the drug itself? The FDA

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01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:18,000
has had numerous meetings with almost every company that brings

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01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:22,580
products before it. The recommendations of the FDA were clear,

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01:36:22,580 --> 01:36:26,700
misrepresented in the media. How did they misrepresent? Well, saying

1616
01:36:26,700 --> 01:36:28,920
that they changed the goalposts. They don't change the goalposts.

1617
01:36:29,100 --> 01:36:31,520
So when we're talking about how hard it is for

1618
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,540
RFK Jr. to do stuff, this is exactly what this

1619
01:36:34,540 --> 01:36:40,160
guy got pressed out. They threatened him. Who knows? Yeah,

1620
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:43,140
that's why they came up with the vape thing. Yes,

1621
01:36:43,140 --> 01:36:46,240
exactly. No, that's what you do. You're pounding, you're pounding,

1622
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:47,700
you're pounding, you're pounding, you say, well, hell with it.

1623
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:49,960
Let's go after him some other way. Yep, and there

1624
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:52,660
it is. We dream some scheme up here and we'll

1625
01:36:52,660 --> 01:36:55,420
go with this. What side is he on here? Well,

1626
01:36:55,420 --> 01:36:57,180
that's what Trump wanted to do. Okay, well, let's go

1627
01:36:57,180 --> 01:37:00,660
after him. Call Kimmel. Call Kimmel. Get him to make

1628
01:37:00,660 --> 01:37:04,480
some jokes. Yeah, you just keep doing it until the

1629
01:37:04,480 --> 01:37:06,920
guy gives up. This happened with a woman who just

1630
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:10,640
quit the, I think she was the CDC or FDA.

1631
01:37:11,440 --> 01:37:14,140
And I had a clip. I didn't have a clip,

1632
01:37:14,140 --> 01:37:16,200
but I was going to discuss her. And she was

1633
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:23,120
drummed out the same way. because this is major. If

1634
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:27,760
you didn't have the pharmacy companies so big. And powerful.

1635
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:30,340
It's shocking to me that Cassidy didn't get in because

1636
01:37:30,340 --> 01:37:35,120
he's supported by them. You even hear this guy saying,

1637
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:38,140
hey, they're running ads on your network. Yeah, that's why

1638
01:37:38,140 --> 01:37:40,960
our CNBC guy is like, whoa, what's wrong with you?

1639
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:44,120
I mean, it was a perfectly good drug. Everyone, the

1640
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:46,920
CEO says, oh, what's that? The Wall Street Journal, nine

1641
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:53,440
opinion pieces. There was money behind this. Big money. And

1642
01:37:53,440 --> 01:37:56,900
it was probably just for some stock win. I don't

1643
01:37:56,900 --> 01:38:00,540
think they have care about 8,000 melanoma patients. Well, there

1644
01:38:00,540 --> 01:38:04,960
was a stock at play. There had to be. So

1645
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,300
that's what that's... No, it was. It was called Replimune.

1646
01:38:07,540 --> 01:38:10,080
Okay. And that's what all this... It's down to five

1647
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,620
bucks a share now. Ah, there you go. Everyone lost

1648
01:38:12,620 --> 01:38:17,740
their shirt. So out you go. vapes we'll do something

1649
01:38:17,740 --> 01:38:21,840
we'll do something we'll make you look stupid yeah i

1650
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:23,500
don't think trump is i don't think trump even knew

1651
01:38:23,500 --> 01:38:26,240
about this part no he can't keep up with this

1652
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:29,720
stuff he can and he can barely do it uh

1653
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:37,460
so um uh stephen colbert had his last show i

1654
01:38:37,460 --> 01:38:39,980
don't know if you saw it no i i'll go

1655
01:38:39,980 --> 01:38:42,300
back and look at it eventually they had david letterman

1656
01:38:42,300 --> 01:38:44,520
on and they threw stuff off the roof of the

1657
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:46,980
CBS building. Yeah, I did see that. They clipped that

1658
01:38:46,980 --> 01:38:51,040
and put it online. Yeah, yeah, I saw that. And

1659
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:54,520
we discussed this offline after the show one or two

1660
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:58,720
shows ago. I'll just play this little brief bit about

1661
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:02,760
his replacement. Meanwhile, fellow late-nighter Jimmy Kimmel joked at Disney's

1662
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:06,940
annual upfronts about CBS replacing Colbert with Byron Allen's Comics

1663
01:39:06,940 --> 01:39:10,380
Unleashed. Quote, it's bad enough to lose your job. Imagine

1664
01:39:10,380 --> 01:39:13,480
getting replaced by the owner of the Weather Channel. So

1665
01:39:13,480 --> 01:39:20,980
Byron Allen will be replacing him. Our initial thought was,

1666
01:39:20,980 --> 01:39:26,940
go ahead. Pretty embarrassing. It's an insult. Yeah, it's an

1667
01:39:26,940 --> 01:39:29,900
insult. I mean, Byron Allen is something of a genius

1668
01:39:29,900 --> 01:39:34,160
entrepreneur, a billionaire. And he's been doing the same kind

1669
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:38,260
of schlock programming forever. although he does when it comes

1670
01:39:38,260 --> 01:39:41,440
to the food stuff he has a number of of

1671
01:39:41,440 --> 01:39:45,780
foodie uh productions that he does that are extremely well

1672
01:39:45,780 --> 01:39:48,740
produced but most of his stuff is just you know

1673
01:39:48,740 --> 01:39:52,340
because byron allen who's a black guy it is a

1674
01:39:52,340 --> 01:39:56,840
wannabe comic who's not funny yeah but he's got a

1675
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,920
knack for producing kind of

1676
01:40:00,180 --> 01:40:06,840
low-budget, mid-quality material, and he's been doing it forever. Way

1677
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:09,980
before we started this show, he was doing stuff, and

1678
01:40:09,980 --> 01:40:15,500
he has this Comics Unleashed show, which is terrible. I

1679
01:40:15,500 --> 01:40:19,460
mean, it's just not well done, but it's cheap. It's

1680
01:40:19,460 --> 01:40:22,960
super cheap. So that's how he's made his money, leverage.

1681
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:28,700
Here's the kicker. CBS didn't replace Stephen Colbert with Byron

1682
01:40:28,700 --> 01:40:33,380
Allen. he is paying for the time slot oh that

1683
01:40:33,380 --> 01:40:36,520
would make sense he bought the time slot that makes

1684
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:40,040
total sense yeah and he's probably it's probably going to

1685
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:42,920
be more profitable than any of the other late night

1686
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:45,380
shows because yeah because it's what he does and he's

1687
01:40:45,380 --> 01:40:48,900
going to make good money off of that yeah it's

1688
01:40:48,900 --> 01:40:52,700
like a infomercial yes exactly you buy those slots spots

1689
01:40:52,700 --> 01:40:55,540
exactly and then everyone else is going to go you

1690
01:40:55,540 --> 01:40:58,260
know you'll see nbc the network actually instead of losing

1691
01:40:58,260 --> 01:41:01,300
40 million dollars a year will be making money doing

1692
01:41:01,300 --> 01:41:04,820
nothing yes for something that almost no one watches anyway

1693
01:41:04,820 --> 01:41:09,860
yes infomercial level a couple million people of which none

1694
01:41:09,860 --> 01:41:12,260
are in the demo no right you want you want

1695
01:41:12,260 --> 01:41:15,620
to sell medical devices you want to sell that phone

1696
01:41:15,620 --> 01:41:18,220
i didn't know that but now that you mentioned genius

1697
01:41:18,220 --> 01:41:21,960
right that's why byron allen is a billionaire he's something

1698
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:28,380
of a genius in terms of TV. It's schlock, but

1699
01:41:28,020 --> 01:41:31,100
it's still. What are you going to do? What TV

1700
01:41:31,100 --> 01:41:34,700
is good? I mean, it's all schlock. Ever since Dana

1701
01:41:34,700 --> 01:41:39,720
Brunetti stopped producing shows, it's just gone downhill. Yeah. I'm

1702
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:41,680
doing this to get out of a lawsuit, by the

1703
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:47,400
way. Oh, he's... Good old Dana. Yeah, that guy. I

1704
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:51,780
heard that he hates Hollywood. I love telling my church

1705
01:41:51,860 --> 01:41:55,080
people. Yeah, you know, Danny Brunetti, big Hollywood guy, he

1706
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:57,640
listens to the show. He's kind of a friend. What

1707
01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:03,220
did he do? Fifty Shades of Grey? What? That's pornography.

1708
01:42:04,460 --> 01:42:06,480
No, that was Fifty Shades of Grey. That was the

1709
01:42:06,480 --> 01:42:10,420
bad one. Yeah. House of Cards. There was a trilogy.

1710
01:42:10,420 --> 01:42:15,600
There was three? Money, yeah. Three money makers, yeah, of

1711
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:18,280
course. Of course, that's why he has a fire truck

1712
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:22,960
and a farm. And we're podcasters. I'm just saying. Well,

1713
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:31,220
you know, we got cash flow. All right. You got

1714
01:42:31,220 --> 01:42:32,980
anything else you want to do? Yeah, let's see before

1715
01:42:32,980 --> 01:42:36,200
we have it yeah i want to do um you

1716
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:39,000
know what the sharia law clip is always good sharia

1717
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:42,200
law in the usa big thread i find this to

1718
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:45,900
be kind of kind of hopeless but let's play these

1719
01:42:45,900 --> 01:42:49,520
clips and lawmakers warn that groups in support of sharia

1720
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:53,260
law have a long-term goal of widespread influence here in

1721
01:42:53,260 --> 01:42:57,580
the u.s warnings of Korea's authoritarian nature and social class

1722
01:42:57,580 --> 01:43:01,200
divisions based on sex and religion. They point to already

1723
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:05,500
existing Sharia-based tribunal courts happening in Texas and the United

1724
01:43:05,500 --> 01:43:09,960
Kingdom. NDD correspondent Jason Blair brings us that story. People

1725
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:13,020
do not have protection from imposing a foreign legal system

1726
01:43:13,020 --> 01:43:16,340
or code that overrides or replaces U.S. civil or criminal

1727
01:43:16,340 --> 01:43:20,680
law, nor the Constitution. House Republicans warn that stronger action

1728
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:23,460
needs to be taken to curb the rise of Sharia

1729
01:43:23,460 --> 01:43:27,360
law tribunals and acting courts in the U.S. Political Islam

1730
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:31,840
silences dissent, prohibits religious freedom, allows barbaric punishments, and treats

1731
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:35,140
women, children, and non-Muslims as second-class citizens. At a congressional

1732
01:43:35,140 --> 01:43:38,660
hearing Wednesday, one witness said many Islamic groups have openly

1733
01:43:38,660 --> 01:43:42,600
stated their long-term intent of gradually making the U.S. an

1734
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:45,940
Islamic society. society. They've written it down in the project

1735
01:43:45,940 --> 01:43:48,580
in a 12-point plan. You can read it for yourself.

1736
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:52,140
They've come to make this country like they've made countries

1737
01:43:52,140 --> 01:43:55,800
all across the world Islamic. Amy Meckleberg, founder of Rare

1738
01:43:55,800 --> 01:44:00,820
Foundation USA, says there are Sharia-based tribunal services operating in

1739
01:44:00,820 --> 01:44:03,860
America. All across different places throughout the United States, from

1740
01:44:03,440 --> 01:44:08,460
birth to death, they now have full operational societies. So

1741
01:44:08,460 --> 01:44:12,140
within these societies, they have their courts. Subcommittee Chairman Chip

1742
01:44:12,140 --> 01:44:15,560
Roy says that the UK has 85 Sharia law courts

1743
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:18,480
operating in the country. Muslims are increasingly turning to Sharia

1744
01:44:18,480 --> 01:44:21,620
courts to settle disputes rather than the UK's legal system.

1745
01:44:22,820 --> 01:44:31,360
He said UK. Yeah. Yeah. So it's called arbitration. That's

1746
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:38,440
what that is. It's arbitration. Well, whatever it is, in

1747
01:44:38,440 --> 01:44:40,820
the UK it seems to be somewhat popular with certain

1748
01:44:40,820 --> 01:44:43,680
groups of people. Amongst the Muslims. Yeah, well, that's what

1749
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:47,340
they do. It's just like the nature that it's going

1750
01:44:47,340 --> 01:44:49,120
to take over the US and we're going to do

1751
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:55,140
this. Oh, please. This is nonsense. This is midterm fear-mongering

1752
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:57,360
is what this is. Vote for Chip Roy. Vote for

1753
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:00,700
Chip Roy. Yeah, Chip roy he's your buddy he's a

1754
01:45:00,700 --> 01:45:03,620
texas boy i'll stop the i'll stop the the muslim

1755
01:45:03,620 --> 01:45:07,880
um compounds in texas and whenever i say this people

1756
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:10,500
are always like look at this man this happening is

1757
01:45:10,500 --> 01:45:14,120
real yeah maybe but we're a little just look at

1758
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:16,280
the percentage of muslims in the united states and what

1759
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:19,320
their influence is most muslims in the united states are

1760
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:22,720
not for this stuff no and we don't have open

1761
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:28,920
borders where crazy Muslims are coming in, and we don't

1762
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,560
have a society where we allow, at least we should

1763
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:36,440
not, where we allow them to fire up their loudspeakers

1764
01:45:36,440 --> 01:45:40,540
five times a day and have them stop and bow

1765
01:45:40,540 --> 01:45:44,540
in the middle of the street. Now, you may see

1766
01:45:44,540 --> 01:45:47,680
some videos about that, but that kind of stuff usually

1767
01:45:47,380 --> 01:45:51,220
doesn't fly in America. This is different. Europe is like,

1768
01:45:51,220 --> 01:45:53,680
oh, no, this is multicultural. We have to be nice

1769
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:58,900
to everybody and it took 25 years if not almost

1770
01:45:58,900 --> 01:46:01,140
30 the praying in the middle of the street doesn't

1771
01:46:01,140 --> 01:46:04,860
fly in saudi arabia either but you know people are

1772
01:46:04,860 --> 01:46:08,960
online though it's happening and if it's happening in your

1773
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:12,060
town then you should put a stop to it that

1774
01:46:12,060 --> 01:46:15,100
we can do but that didn't happen in europe i

1775
01:46:15,100 --> 01:46:17,900
saw this in the netherlands i saw when and look

1776
01:46:17,900 --> 01:46:20,980
they did a great job when Pim Fortin was running

1777
01:46:20,980 --> 01:46:26,660
for election and his party won after they killed him

1778
01:46:26,660 --> 01:46:29,960
to assassinated him two weeks before the election, he was

1779
01:46:29,500 --> 01:46:34,060
saying, do not allow the Islamification of the Netherlands. And

1780
01:46:34,060 --> 01:46:37,920
he got killed and then everybody shut up, went, oh

1781
01:46:37,500 --> 01:46:41,900
I probably shouldn't say anything about Islam and still took

1782
01:46:41,460 --> 01:46:44,920
25 years to get to where it is today. We

1783
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:49,460
have a lot of runway to stop anything nefarious. But

1784
01:46:49,460 --> 01:46:53,700
you are being played. You are being played and I

1785
01:46:53,700 --> 01:46:58,020
think it's, you know, there's these geofencing operations. You heard

1786
01:46:57,540 --> 01:47:04,780
about this? Yeah, I have. Apparently, Israel has been paying

1787
01:47:04,420 --> 01:47:11,120
companies in America to pop up ads and manipulate algos

1788
01:47:11,700 --> 01:47:15,760
geofenced around churches, particularly in California, but also in Texas,

1789
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:19,600
in the Dallas area, Austin. and part of their geo-fencing

1790
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:24,540
is Israel great and part of it is Islam no

1791
01:47:24,540 --> 01:47:27,880
good. Be careful, be afraid. So you're being played on

1792
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:31,340
all sides. But I agree with you. The influence is

1793
01:47:31,340 --> 01:47:34,340
not that great. Oh, man, the amount of people. This

1794
01:47:34,340 --> 01:47:41,700
is our next Waterloo. Part two. Part two. Rep. Jamie

1795
01:47:41,700 --> 01:47:45,380
Raskin argues that no special laws against Sharia law are

1796
01:47:45,380 --> 01:47:49,520
necessary because of the existence of current U.S. law. Murder

1797
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:54,020
is against the law in America. whether the parents are

1798
01:47:54,020 --> 01:47:58,840
Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Hindu, or anything else. Another witness who's

1799
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:02,140
a high school student in Texas says his Republican student

1800
01:48:02,140 --> 01:48:07,140
club faced hostile scrutiny and censorship by school officials in

1801
01:48:07,140 --> 01:48:10,820
stark contrast to pro-Sharia groups. While the Republican student club

1802
01:48:10,820 --> 01:48:14,240
faced denial, censorship, poster removal, and hostile oversight, an outside

1803
01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:17,540
organization was given easy access to distribute Sharia-related materials directly

1804
01:48:17,540 --> 01:48:20,460
to students. Administrators not only allowed it, they actively promoted

1805
01:48:20,460 --> 01:48:23,940
Islamic events. Throughout the hearing, Democrats argued that existing U.S.

1806
01:48:23,940 --> 01:48:27,520
law is enough to deter any threats. While Republicans called

1807
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:32,340
for urgent action citing Sharia-based tribunals and early warning signs

1808
01:48:32,340 --> 01:48:36,380
in Europe and Texas. Reporting on Capitol Hill, Jason Blair,

1809
01:48:36,380 --> 01:48:41,740
NTD News. Next, today is World Fallen Dafa Day. So,

1810
01:48:41,740 --> 01:48:45,440
if you ask anyone, what is Sharia law? Wait for

1811
01:48:45,440 --> 01:48:50,800
the answer. what is the what is sharia law everyone

1812
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:54,100
thinks that somehow well it's going to supersede american law

1813
01:48:54,100 --> 01:48:56,060
no and i have to agree with raskin with on

1814
01:48:56,060 --> 01:48:59,660
that case it's not going to supersede american law you

1815
01:48:59,660 --> 01:49:02,540
can't go killing people but that's also not what sharia

1816
01:49:02,540 --> 01:49:05,560
law is like you stole my chicken you know i

1817
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:09,220
get to take some beads it's not gonna chop your

1818
01:49:09,220 --> 01:49:13,740
hand off it's not quite that extreme Yeah, I haven't

1819
01:49:13,740 --> 01:49:16,580
seen that take place yet. Have we seen a good

1820
01:49:16,580 --> 01:49:20,320
stoning in America yet? A good Sharia law stoning? There's

1821
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:22,080
been a lot of people that have been stoned, but

1822
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:27,960
not in that way. If Sharia law suddenly, and then

1823
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:30,420
you can go stone a girl because she kissed a

1824
01:49:30,420 --> 01:49:34,140
boy, that is against the law in America. You can't

1825
01:49:34,140 --> 01:49:38,420
go stoning people. But it's a meme now. Oh, Sharia

1826
01:49:38,420 --> 01:49:41,480
law, Sharia law. please tell me what is Sharia law?

1827
01:49:41,740 --> 01:49:44,240
Trolls, because the trolls are all into this. What is

1828
01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:50,680
Sharia law? They can't tell you. It's fear-mongering to get

1829
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:55,180
your vote for Chip Roy and Ken Paxton and a

1830
01:49:55,180 --> 01:50:00,440
bunch of other guys. So we have a

1831
01:50:01,440 --> 01:50:03,260
we've got a couple of things. I do have a

1832
01:50:03,260 --> 01:50:05,080
3x3. We can do that and get out of here.

1833
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:08,180
Oh, well, 3x3 is always fun. Now it's time for

1834
01:50:08,180 --> 01:50:15,580
3x3. Yes, Experiment by JCD. Comparing stories from ABC, CBS,

1835
01:50:15,580 --> 01:50:20,040
and NBC. The never-ending 3x3. That's right, he's got the

1836
01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:22,720
big three. And it's a story that will probably sound

1837
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:25,200
exactly the same on all three networks, but there's always

1838
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:27,780
a twist. You never know what these CIA broadcast systems

1839
01:50:27,780 --> 01:50:30,180
will do. Yeah, that's where we leave them for last.

1840
01:50:30,180 --> 01:50:32,540
And we start with the ABC people about the terrorist

1841
01:50:32,540 --> 01:50:36,220
attack. Tonight, an Iraqi national is in U.S. custody accused

1842
01:50:36,220 --> 01:50:39,860
of orchestrating terror attacks like these, taking aim at American

1843
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and Jewish targets around the world in retaliation for the

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war in Iran. Federal prosecutors charging Mohammed al-Sadi with a

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slew of terror-related crimes, alleging he coordinated 20 terror attacks

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in Europe and Canada in the last three months and

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eyed additional attacks in the U.S., identifying targets in California,

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Arizona, and New York City. He has been trying to

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inspire jihad around the world through the Internet. Prosecutors linked

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al-Sadi to this stabbing in London that left two Jewish

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men, including an American citizen, seriously injured. Drop the knife!

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To this attempted arson at Bank of New York Mellon

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in Amsterdam. And this firebombing of a synagogue in North

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Macedonia. Al-Sadi was apprehended this week in Turkey. In court

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today, he claimed he's a political prisoner being persecuted for

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his ties to Iranian General Qasem Soleimani, the military commander

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killed by a U.S. airstrike in 2020. He's essentially being

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subjected to a political prosecution, that he's a prisoner of

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war and should be treated as such. But when federal

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prosecutors portrayed al-Sadi as a terrorist mastermind who they said

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successfully coordinated attacks overseas and paid undercover agents to carry

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out more attacks in this country. Undercover agents. This guy's

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powerful. Sketchy story. Powerful. Very powerful. NBC. Tonight, the FBI

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and NYPD saying they've foiled potential terror attacks against Jewish

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sites in New York, L.A., and Scottsdale, Arizona. Plots, they

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say, are all tied to the Iranian regime. This man,

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Mohammed al-Sadi, now held in a New York jail cell,

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is an alleged high-ranking member of the mysterious terror group

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called HAYI. What? Authorities say they've already carried out 18

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terror attacks in Europe, primarily targeting the Jewish community, including

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this suspect, tackled by British police after a stabbing rampage

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outside a London mosque and the group carrying out the

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firebombing of this Belgian synagogue. Tonight, the FBI says HAYI

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is a front for the Iranian-backed terror group Hezbollah, and

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they say al-Sahdi's ties go right to the top of

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the Iranian regime. Multiple photos show al-Sahdi with former Iranian

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Revolutionary Guard Corps commander Qusim Soleimani killed in a U.S.

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drone strike during President Trump's first term. Ah, there it

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is. This is Trump's fault. Al-Saudi has specifically threatened to

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kill President Trump on social media. He is certainly a

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leader in this terrorist organization, and he was directing and

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inspiring terrorist attacks. These photos, exclusively obtained by NBC News,

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show his arrival in New York last night after he

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was taken into custody by Turkish authorities, according to prosecutors.

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They say since April he's been communicating with an undercover

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officer offering to pay tens of thousands of dollars to

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attack Jewish sites in the U.S. Oh. Tom, these are

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alarming developments. The suspect was in court today. He appeared

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01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:42,740
briefly in court. His attorney says he thinks he's a

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prisoner of war. Meanwhile, authorities believe the case underscores the

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01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,540
wide variety of threats for events like the World Cup

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starting next month. Oh, yes. Now, let me ask you

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01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:55,120
some questions about this. That was cute getting the World

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Cup in there. Yeah, yeah. Let me ask some questions.

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So was he communicating with an undercover officer on our

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side, like one of our FBI guys? Is that how

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01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:09,900
they nailed this guy? Well, wasn't it clearly explained in

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the report? No, I didn't think it was clearly explained.

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They keep talking about he paid agents around the world

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to do stuff. He was linked to Soleimani, Trump's trophy.

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So I'm just waiting for this to be Trump's fault.

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And that synagogue in Amsterdam, they locked off a whole

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01:54:31,340 --> 01:54:33,840
part of the city. You can't even drive in certain

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directions because of that. But I didn't hear anything about

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01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:39,600
this. So like some nut jobs, but I didn't hear

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any connections to this guy. I don't know. This whole

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01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:45,360
thing is fishy. Appearing in a federal court in Manhattan

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today, Mohammed al-Sadi smiled as a judge read off the

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01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:55,720
list of terrorism charges. Arrested in Turkey in the last

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24 hours and extradited to New York, al-Sadi is accused

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of trying to hire someone who happened to be an

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undercover officer. Now it's clear. Carry out attacks in Los

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Angeles, Scottsdale, Arizona and New York City. Well, the system

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01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:10,260
worked then. We stopped him. New York City Police Commissioner

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Jessica Tisch said, we disrupted a plan to attack a

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Manhattan synagogue and in partnership with the synagogue's leadership, ensured

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its security when the threat was elevated. Prosecutors say on

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April 3rd, Al-Sadi sent maps of a New York synagogue

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and Jewish centers in LA and Scottsdale to the undercover

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01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:29,860
officer, agreeing to pay him $10,000. In the next day, al-Sadi

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is alleged to have sent $3,000 in crypto as a down

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01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:35,480
payment for the New York attack, texting, I want to

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see good news tonight, not tomorrow, bro. Prosecutors say al-Sadi

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is the commander of Kata'i Hezbollah. Bro, wait a minute.

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Where is this guy? Is he New Jersey? Bro. Al-Sadi

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is alleged to have sent $3,000 in crypto as a down

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payment for the New York attack, texting, I want to

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see good news tonight, not tomorrow, bro. Prosecutors say al-Sahdi

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is a commander of Kataib Hezbollah, an Iran-backed terrorist group

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with ties to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. He's pictured here

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with the late Iranian general Qasem Soleimani, killed by a

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U.S. drone strike in 2020 on orders from President Trump.

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His defense attorney said al-Sahdi is being punished for his

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ties to Soleimani. This case is a political case, and

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it's a political prosecution, and we're going to be litigating

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it as such. Prosecutors also say after the war began,

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al-Sadi helped launch... Wait a minute, wait a minute. He

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01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:30,780
called it a political case? Well, that's what he calls

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01:56:30,780 --> 01:56:36,400
it. Well, isn't that just terrorism? That's an interesting point.

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For his ties to Soleimani. This case is a political

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01:56:39,900 --> 01:56:45,180
case, and it's a political prosecution, and we're going to

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01:56:45,180 --> 01:56:48,160
be litigating it as such. Prosecutors also say after the

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war began, al-Saudi helped launch 18 terror attacks across Europe,

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01:56:52,220 --> 01:56:54,520
including on a synagogue and a Jewish school in Belgium,

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and the stabbing of two Jewish men in London last

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01:56:57,180 --> 01:57:01,240
month. CBS contributor Sam Vinograd said retaliatory acts of terrorism

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01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:06,160
could become more common. Even when drones, missiles and more

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01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:10,160
stop flying over Iranian airspace, it is more than likely

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01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:14,120
that these military campaigns have inspired a generation of individuals

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to continue to try to wreak havoc and al-sadi is

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01:57:20,500 --> 01:57:24,740
facing multiple terrorism charges including providing material support for acts

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01:57:24,740 --> 01:57:27,840
of terrorism if convicted major he could face up to

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01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:32,400
life in prison Yeah. Whenever we have like, he hired

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01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:35,960
an undercover cop of, it doesn't even mention if it

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01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:39,100
was FBI or not an agent. And then he sent

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01:57:39,100 --> 01:57:42,360
him some crypto and used bro. I'm like, this guy

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01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:47,300
was some, probably some schmuck. And then they found a

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01:57:47,300 --> 01:57:50,640
picture of him with Soleimani. It sounds sketchy to me.

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01:57:50,220 --> 01:57:52,980
Well, maybe you could be right, but I think it's

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just a maniac. and he's got a boatload he's got

1961
01:57:58,180 --> 01:58:01,880
a bunch of cash and he's crypto traveling all over

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01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:04,060
the place like he goes to Macedonia then he's in

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01:58:04,060 --> 01:58:06,180
Turkey then he's in Holland and then he's in New

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01:58:06,180 --> 01:58:08,120
York well no no he hired people to do that

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01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:12,580
stuff yeah but he's been floating around too he didn't

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do it from Turkey he's not hiring anybody to blow

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01:58:14,700 --> 01:58:21,220
up a synagogue in Arizona from Turkey there's nobody there's

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01:58:21,220 --> 01:58:23,880
no connection there's no it's not possible he's got to

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01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:25,660
come over here to do some of that stuff. The

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01:58:25,660 --> 01:58:28,960
good news is he's off the streets. The FBI has

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01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:32,620
done it again. We're safe. Sleep well, citizen. Go back

1972
01:58:32,620 --> 01:58:36,360
to playing your harpsichord, citizen. Everything is well. And by

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01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:40,640
the way, my last clip is Harvey Weinstein. We're not

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01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:43,000
safe because he's going to be out of jail. To

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the index now, a judge declared a mistrial in Harvey

1976
01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:49,880
Weinstein's rape retrial. The decision after a jury in Manhattan

1977
01:58:49,500 --> 01:58:53,000
could not reach a unanimous verdict following three days of

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01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:56,380
deliberations. deliberations this was the third time weinstein was tried

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01:58:56,380 --> 01:58:59,600
on accusations he raped an aspiring actress in a hotel

1980
01:58:59,600 --> 01:59:03,900
room in 2013 weinstein's lawyers argued the sexual encounter was

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01:59:03,900 --> 01:59:07,420
consensual a hearing next month could determine if there will

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01:59:07,420 --> 01:59:11,820
be a fourth trial that is that is odd isn't

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01:59:11,820 --> 01:59:14,840
it yeah well then i have two clips just to

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01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:17,260
wind it all up because that we're going to open

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01:59:17,260 --> 01:59:24,520
reopen been Epstein trials, more trials coming. And the Democrats...

1986
01:59:23,820 --> 01:59:26,460
Oh, great. That's terrific. How many people have gone to

1987
01:59:26,460 --> 01:59:29,840
jail so far? Well, one person is... They want blood

1988
01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:33,340
and they have a target on one guy. Okay. Here's

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01:59:33,340 --> 01:59:35,460
the MS now setting us up. On the committee, heard

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01:59:35,460 --> 01:59:38,600
dramatic testimony from survivors at a field hearing this week

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01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:41,820
in Palm Beach County, where many of Epstein's crimes took

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01:59:41,820 --> 01:59:45,200
place. When I was 14 years old, I was abused

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01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:48,580
by Jeffrey Epstein. He abused me until I was 17

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01:59:48,580 --> 01:59:51,980
years old. What happened to me was terrible, but what

1995
01:59:51,980 --> 01:59:55,800
happened after that by our own government changed my life

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just as much. I came here today to ask for

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one simple thing.

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02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:03,500
to make sure this never happens again. I kept my

1999
02:00:03,500 --> 02:00:08,040
identity protected as Jane Doe. I woke up one day

2000
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:17,280
with my name mentioned over 500 times. While the rich

2001
02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:20,760
and powerful remained protected by reduction, my name was exposed

2002
02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:25,700
to the world. Okay, so both of them say that

2003
02:00:25,700 --> 02:00:30,980
they were abused by the U.S. government. You wanted to

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02:00:30,980 --> 02:00:33,200
say something? No, I was going to say they got

2005
02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:36,840
outed by the U.S. government. Yeah, but I think the

2006
02:00:36,840 --> 02:00:42,440
first one said it was worse. Yeah. So the Democrats

2007
02:00:42,440 --> 02:00:45,700
in this case want blood, and I think they'll get

2008
02:00:45,700 --> 02:00:48,360
it. I think they'll get it, and it's about one

2009
02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:50,860
guy and one guy only. But let's turn now, sir,

2010
02:00:50,860 --> 02:00:54,980
to the Epstein investigation, because all House oversight Democrats are

2011
02:00:54,980 --> 02:00:57,760
calling for Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick to resign over his

2012
02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:01,560
Epstein testimony. What should the American people know about his

2013
02:01:01,560 --> 02:01:06,120
interview and how it fits into the overall probe? Look,

2014
02:01:06,120 --> 02:01:08,640
no one should be serving the American people, certainly not

2015
02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:11,700
as a cabinet secretary, when you are essentially a known

2016
02:01:11,700 --> 02:01:14,520
liar and unwilling to tell the truth. When you lie

2017
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:17,680
to the public and you're not honest in a deposition

2018
02:01:17,680 --> 02:01:21,160
in front of the Congress. We all have seen Howard

2019
02:01:21,160 --> 02:01:24,880
Lutnick in multiple times say that after 2005, he had

2020
02:01:24,880 --> 02:01:27,180
no interaction with Jeffrey Epstein. that he had known very

2021
02:01:27,180 --> 02:01:29,560
well. And now we just know that that wasn't true.

2022
02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:31,280
We know that he went to the island, that he

2023
02:01:31,280 --> 02:01:33,860
went into business with Jeffrey Epstein, that he communicated, his

2024
02:01:33,860 --> 02:01:36,660
wife communicated with him. And so then to them, him

2025
02:01:36,660 --> 02:01:39,560
go into this interview with Congress and not admit to

2026
02:01:39,560 --> 02:01:43,700
that and evade. Look, he needs to resign or be

2027
02:01:43,700 --> 02:01:46,800
fired. He has lied to the American people. And that

2028
02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:49,560
is nothing. That's not something a cabinet secretary should be

2029
02:01:49,560 --> 02:01:52,700
doing. And beyond that, this points back to this massive

2030
02:01:52,700 --> 02:01:55,440
cover up. Howard Lutnick has been involved at the White

2031
02:01:55,440 --> 02:02:00,020
House, continuing to cover up for the DOJ, telling lies,

2032
02:02:00,020 --> 02:02:01,900
and he's got to go. Yeah, I think he will.

2033
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I think that's the scalp they want now. Why? Just

2034
02:02:07,700 --> 02:02:11,600
to do it. Ludnick's just a nutnik. He's a commerce

2035
02:02:11,600 --> 02:02:14,520
guy. Who cares? Yeah, he's important to Trump because of

2036
02:02:14,520 --> 02:02:21,120
the USDC. He's the big stablecoin guy. Oh, okay. Yeah,

2037
02:02:21,120 --> 02:02:24,180
he's a big stablecoin guy. I know he's the guy

2038
02:02:24,180 --> 02:02:28,860
that Musk wanted to be Secretary of the Treasury. He's

2039
02:02:28,860 --> 02:02:32,780
a big Lutnik fan. Oh, I'm glad we got General

2040
02:02:32,780 --> 02:02:36,040
Patton on the down low. That guy's much better. Yeah,

2041
02:02:36,040 --> 02:02:43,640
much better. More fun. Speaking of Treasury, this podcast runs

2042
02:02:43,640 --> 02:02:47,040
Value for Value, and you've listened up to this point.

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You might want to listen a little bit further because

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have quite an amazing community, which is why I want

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to thank you for your courage and say in the

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morning to you, the man who put the sea in

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the Cuban blackouts, say hello to my friend on the

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other end, the one, the only, Mr. John Cena. Well,

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in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. Also in

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the morning, our ships, the sea boots, the grand feet

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in the air, so there's no water names tonight out

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there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll

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room. Let me count for a second. There we go.

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There we go. 1,681 on the troll counts. Wonderful trolls.

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Good to have you here. And congratulations with your profile

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on CBS. It's amazing. Now everybody knows how you operate

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and what you are. Now, of course, a lot of

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these trolls are just listening patiently. They're just listening to

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the show. They like doing that because they got alerted

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by their modern podcast app, which I think you all

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to podcastapps.com. These apps are fantastic. When we go live,

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many of the No Agenda Nation shows go live, and

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we have the live stream, and we have the troll

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room. You get notified, and you listen to that live

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in your actual podcast app. It's a new form of

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radio, I tell you. Because if you don't have an

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opportunity, it is. We're reinventing radio. Do you know that

2072
02:04:19,020 --> 02:04:23,980
podcasts have now surpassed talk radio? Well, that doesn't surprise

2073
02:04:23,980 --> 02:04:31,040
me. There's still like some obscene number, like $40 billion in

2074
02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:35,280
advertising going to radio. It's unbelievable how much money they

2075
02:04:35,280 --> 02:04:37,260
still get. Well, that's going to disappear one of these

2076
02:04:37,260 --> 02:04:39,420
days. Yeah, but it doesn't seem to be going to

2077
02:04:39,420 --> 02:04:44,320
podcasts. You notice how the Pivot Pod, they thought that

2078
02:04:44,320 --> 02:04:47,080
they were going to sell their show. Eh, I don't

2079
02:04:47,080 --> 02:04:50,160
think so. They're just still sitting with the same old

2080
02:04:50,160 --> 02:04:52,760
outfit. Yeah, they were thinking of selling for $10 million, $100 million

2081
02:04:52,760 --> 02:04:55,420
or something. $100 million. Rogan money, they were talking. Yeah,

2082
02:04:55,420 --> 02:04:58,160
Rogan money. Rogan money, yeah. Until it turns out, nah,

2083
02:04:58,160 --> 02:05:03,200
not really. It really isn't all that. So get one

2084
02:05:03,200 --> 02:05:05,840
of those modern podcast apps, and then consider supporting the

2085
02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:08,160
show. It's value for value. You can do that in

2086
02:05:08,160 --> 02:05:11,640
three ways. Time, talent, treasure. We love all of it.

2087
02:05:11,640 --> 02:05:14,120
Of course, treasure is extremely important for us to keep

2088
02:05:14,120 --> 02:05:17,880
our home fires burning. But people do fun things. They

2089
02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:19,300
do a lot of cool stuff for the show. send

2090
02:05:19,300 --> 02:05:25,200
boots on the ground, jingles, clips, end-of-show mixes, organize meetups,

2091
02:05:25,200 --> 02:05:29,720
and sometimes just, you know, just troll us. That's also

2092
02:05:29,720 --> 02:05:33,040
a form of time and talent, I guess. And then

2093
02:05:33,040 --> 02:05:37,120
we have the artists who prompt away and make artwork

2094
02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:40,500
for our album art, which is critical to the success

2095
02:05:40,500 --> 02:05:43,760
of the show because it looks really great on social

2096
02:05:43,760 --> 02:05:47,120
media. People love it. And we always can, it's kind

2097
02:05:47,120 --> 02:05:49,660
of a feedback mechanism for us as well. When we

2098
02:05:49,660 --> 02:05:52,460
really hit on something, then we see a whole bunch

2099
02:05:52,460 --> 02:05:55,340
of art pieces that show up about that one thing.

2100
02:05:55,240 --> 02:05:58,740
And then we know that we succeeded in our mission.

2101
02:05:58,700 --> 02:06:01,620
We made you laugh. We made you cry. We made

2102
02:06:01,620 --> 02:06:05,080
you think about something. And this was very prevalent with

2103
02:06:05,080 --> 02:06:09,580
the Num Nuts, which is the artwork done by Francisco

2104
02:06:09,580 --> 02:06:14,540
Scaramanga. Num Nuts is what I called some members of

2105
02:06:14,540 --> 02:06:18,960
our intelligence agency, the central one. and it was a

2106
02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:21,940
great piece. We loved the candied macadamias. And then did

2107
02:06:21,940 --> 02:06:24,520
you see what he did on X? The video? Yeah,

2108
02:06:24,520 --> 02:06:26,940
he got a picture. You was looking like some sort

2109
02:06:26,940 --> 02:06:32,680
of a thug. Smoking, smoking. Smoking stuff. And yeah, it

2110
02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:35,900
was good. It was fantastic. I'm like, can we get

2111
02:06:35,900 --> 02:06:38,340
animated art for an album? I have to see if

2112
02:06:38,340 --> 02:06:39,920
we can make that. That should be something that the

2113
02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:43,000
modern podcast apps do. How cool would that be? To

2114
02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:47,240
have a little video playing. That would be cool. You

2115
02:06:47,240 --> 02:06:50,600
had to make that part of the podcasting 2.0 spec.

2116
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:54,500
I'm on it, both. I'm on it. Let's take a

2117
02:06:54,500 --> 02:06:58,420
look at what else was submitted at noagendaartgenerator.com. A lot

2118
02:06:58,420 --> 02:07:02,540
of value in that operation from Sir Paul Couture. Let

2119
02:07:02,540 --> 02:07:05,660
us take a look here. We had some butts. We

2120
02:07:05,660 --> 02:07:07,520
had butts. That's a comic strip blogger. Oh, we had

2121
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:11,240
a lot of pomp and ceremony. There's another one. Got

2122
02:07:11,240 --> 02:07:14,960
a lot of pomp and ceremony, art pieces. A lot

2123
02:07:14,960 --> 02:07:19,200
of poop on the marble. Man, that really hit. Huh?

2124
02:07:19,200 --> 02:07:22,560
Poop on the marble. And then the mousetrap with the

2125
02:07:22,560 --> 02:07:25,260
cheese and the chocolate. Did you see the note that

2126
02:07:25,260 --> 02:07:28,060
came in that someone said the mask finally slipped and

2127
02:07:28,060 --> 02:07:30,600
you're actually a sadist and a very, very evil human?

2128
02:07:30,920 --> 02:07:33,860
Oh, yeah. I was talking about it. I got one

2129
02:07:33,860 --> 02:07:36,040
of those notes too. There's two of them. That I'm

2130
02:07:36,040 --> 02:07:40,940
a terrible person for crushing a mouse. Now, the fact

2131
02:07:40,940 --> 02:07:44,380
is that that was just a joke. If you want

2132
02:07:44,380 --> 02:07:46,340
to know what really happens when I get a mouse

2133
02:07:46,340 --> 02:07:50,620
in a glue trap, because I'm fearful of getting mouse

2134
02:07:50,620 --> 02:07:54,340
fleas that hit me, I actually take a plastic bag

2135
02:07:54,340 --> 02:07:58,760
and slowly kick the mouse in the trap into the

2136
02:07:58,760 --> 02:08:01,800
bag and then seal the plastic bag and throw it

2137
02:08:01,800 --> 02:08:03,640
in the garbage as fast as I can. So he's

2138
02:08:03,640 --> 02:08:06,760
alive in the garbage and he just dies slowly in

2139
02:08:06,760 --> 02:08:09,500
the garbage? He's dead already. Usually they're dead already. They

2140
02:08:09,500 --> 02:08:12,340
die in that little thing. So this morning, I was

2141
02:08:12,340 --> 02:08:15,620
up at five. So the guys who made these comments,

2142
02:08:15,620 --> 02:08:18,880
I think there's a couple of them, they're idiots, okay?

2143
02:08:19,040 --> 02:08:22,020
It's just that simple. This morning, I'm sitting in the

2144
02:08:22,020 --> 02:08:25,260
kitchen at 5 a.m. And it's kind of half dark.

2145
02:08:25,180 --> 02:08:26,660
And I see something out of the corner of my

2146
02:08:26,660 --> 02:08:29,100
eye. And I'm telling you, a mouse walked right across

2147
02:08:29,100 --> 02:08:32,740
the floor. I'm like, wow, I can't wait to use

2148
02:08:32,740 --> 02:08:37,640
John's glue trap system. It's great. Well, you know, some

2149
02:08:37,640 --> 02:08:40,040
of these mice have a lot of nerve. Oh, he

2150
02:08:40,040 --> 02:08:43,220
was bold. Yeah. He was very bold. I'm going to

2151
02:08:43,220 --> 02:08:45,600
get him. No, you'll get him. You have to be

2152
02:08:45,600 --> 02:08:48,040
careful because they start to multiply pretty quickly. Yeah, but

2153
02:08:48,040 --> 02:08:49,540
I know how to get him. I know how to

2154
02:08:49,540 --> 02:08:52,000
get him. And then, you know, just like the ants,

2155
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:54,040
I always leave them in the trap for half a

2156
02:08:54,040 --> 02:08:56,700
day. So everyone can smell them. So they know. This

2157
02:08:56,700 --> 02:08:59,260
is death over here, people. Don't come near this one.

2158
02:08:59,680 --> 02:09:02,080
Well, that's an interesting theory. Well, it's your theory. It's

2159
02:09:02,080 --> 02:09:04,040
what you want to do after you torch the ants.

2160
02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:06,660
Yeah. How about you do that? You want to leave

2161
02:09:06,660 --> 02:09:09,880
that torch smell. A lot of people, like on the

2162
02:09:09,880 --> 02:09:13,080
blueberry tip, man, the blueberry in the hallway, that got

2163
02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:16,200
a lot of art. None of it was really fantastic,

2164
02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:21,880
I have to say. yeah which is we thought the

2165
02:09:21,880 --> 02:09:25,140
number a lot of submissions though yeah which is good

2166
02:09:25,140 --> 02:09:29,020
we like that people are keeping busy keeping the AI

2167
02:09:29,020 --> 02:09:38,460
companies unprofitable so thank you very much Scaramanga Francisco you

2168
02:09:38,460 --> 02:09:40,560
know did I tell you his wife is some supermodel

2169
02:09:40,560 --> 02:09:44,560
or some like model no I never heard this yeah

2170
02:09:44,560 --> 02:09:47,620
comics or blogger told me he's seen a picture of

2171
02:09:47,620 --> 02:09:50,340
her And he says, he's like, it's a model. It's

2172
02:09:50,340 --> 02:09:53,440
kind of makes sense. Good for him. Yeah. Yeah. The

2173
02:09:53,440 --> 02:09:57,320
guy's lucky. He could be a podcaster. He's probably doing,

2174
02:09:56,800 --> 02:09:59,600
he's probably, he's probably independently wealthy.

2175
02:10:01,020 --> 02:10:03,780
You know what I mean? One of those guys. We

2176
02:10:03,780 --> 02:10:06,620
can dream up whatever we want. That's right. With a

2177
02:10:06,620 --> 02:10:10,040
name like Scaramanga, it could be anything. So now we

2178
02:10:10,040 --> 02:10:13,480
would like to thank the people who supported us with

2179
02:10:13,480 --> 02:10:17,400
Treasure. We thank everybody, $50 and above. And if you are

2180
02:10:17,400 --> 02:10:20,840
fortunate enough to be able to support us with $200, between $200

2181
02:10:20,840 --> 02:10:24,920
and $300, not only will we guaranteed read your notes, but

2182
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:28,280
we will also give you a Hollywood title of Associate

2183
02:10:28,280 --> 02:10:32,320
Executive Producer, just like Dana Brunetti, big Hollywood bigwig. You

2184
02:10:32,320 --> 02:10:35,160
can find his name at imdb.com with that credit and

2185
02:10:35,160 --> 02:10:37,060
you will be there as well. And you can use

2186
02:10:37,060 --> 02:10:40,800
that on your resume that gets results. You can use

2187
02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:43,580
it in your social media profile. LinkedIn, it always works.

2188
02:10:43,480 --> 02:10:45,740
You can even become a consultant, I think, on some

2189
02:10:45,740 --> 02:10:49,860
movies if you want or podcasts. $300 or more, the

2190
02:10:49,860 --> 02:10:51,800
same deal. We'd read your note and you'll get a

2191
02:10:51,800 --> 02:10:55,580
credit of executive producer. We still have a few Order

2192
02:10:55,580 --> 02:10:58,920
of the Red Heart, Order of the Heart, Red Nights,

2193
02:10:59,720 --> 02:11:04,040
available, which is just that beautiful package that you get.

2194
02:11:03,960 --> 02:11:06,900
And that was kind of a promo to welcome you

2195
02:11:06,900 --> 02:11:09,520
back to the world of the living. And I think

2196
02:11:09,520 --> 02:11:12,200
we'll have one, if not two of them today, because

2197
02:11:12,200 --> 02:11:16,300
we start with Samuel Montgomery from Arvada, Colorado, who comes

2198
02:11:16,300 --> 02:11:21,180
in with $1,000 plus fees. So that's $1,030 and 26 cents. Thank

2199
02:11:21,180 --> 02:11:24,940
you for saving us the fees. And he says, ITM

2200
02:11:24,940 --> 02:11:28,360
John and Adam, first time donor. I'm a registered cardiovascular

2201
02:11:28,360 --> 02:11:32,880
invasive specialist. I've been that for 20 years. I'm going

2202
02:11:32,880 --> 02:11:37,880
to give him a deduce. You've been deduced. I assist

2203
02:11:37,880 --> 02:11:42,620
with performing cardiac cath procedures, which I assume John had

2204
02:11:42,620 --> 02:11:45,500
prior to his open heart surgery. It is an honor

2205
02:11:45,500 --> 02:11:49,780
to become a Red Knight. Did you have a cardiac

2206
02:11:49,780 --> 02:11:54,760
cath procedure? They run this thing up your leg. Oh,

2207
02:11:54,760 --> 02:11:57,560
in your leg? Well, they start in the leg, the

2208
02:11:57,560 --> 02:11:59,480
top of the part of the leg, and then they

2209
02:11:59,480 --> 02:12:02,920
run this thing up the veins or something, and they

2210
02:12:02,920 --> 02:12:04,720
just run it up there to check it. And then

2211
02:12:04,720 --> 02:12:09,060
they send some horrible dye into your system that then

2212
02:12:09,060 --> 02:12:13,980
poisons your kidneys. And then I could go on and

2213
02:12:13,980 --> 02:12:17,940
on about this. And then I had to go on

2214
02:12:17,940 --> 02:12:20,040
dialysis for like a month and a half to get

2215
02:12:20,040 --> 02:12:22,960
this poison out of the system. Does dialysis, does that

2216
02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:27,800
hurt? Does it suck? What's that like? Actually, not being

2217
02:12:27,800 --> 02:12:32,440
on it is nice. Yes. But when you're on it,

2218
02:12:32,440 --> 02:12:38,260
it's like you can nap through it. Oh. So it's

2219
02:12:38,260 --> 02:12:41,300
dozed off. But it's, no, it doesn't hurt at all.

2220
02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:44,160
It's actually, it's just annoyingly waste of time because it

2221
02:12:44,160 --> 02:12:47,400
takes forever. Jay, Jay, Jay, please get a picture of

2222
02:12:47,400 --> 02:12:51,480
John napping during dialysis. Too late. Oh, you don't have

2223
02:12:51,480 --> 02:12:54,000
to do it anymore? No, no, I haven't done it

2224
02:12:54,000 --> 02:12:56,640
for a month now. Good. I'm good. I'm happy to

2225
02:12:56,640 --> 02:13:00,460
hear that. How about the fluids? Is that over now?

2226
02:13:00,420 --> 02:13:03,120
No, I still had some fluids drained the other day.

2227
02:13:03,260 --> 02:13:05,900
Yeah. I'm actually kind of clear right now, so I

2228
02:13:05,900 --> 02:13:08,700
have a more sonorous voice. You do. I can make

2229
02:13:08,700 --> 02:13:14,920
deeper sounds. It's a few. And I don't know when

2230
02:13:14,920 --> 02:13:17,160
that's getting. And that's getting annoying because they have this

2231
02:13:17,160 --> 02:13:19,820
one guy who's actually pretty good at it, doing these

2232
02:13:19,820 --> 02:13:25,440
thoracentesis where they stick. So this guy's really good at

2233
02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:29,360
it. It doesn't hurt, and it's actually quite pleasant. So

2234
02:13:29,360 --> 02:13:36,040
the time before last, the guy, this guy's name's Hans.

2235
02:13:35,960 --> 02:13:40,600
He's excellent at this. His name is Hans? Hans. Hans,

2236
02:13:40,600 --> 02:13:44,320
yes. He's actually more of an Asian. But anyway, so

2237
02:13:44,320 --> 02:13:47,280
he says, I have a resident here who wants to

2238
02:13:47,280 --> 02:13:52,020
observe so he can do this too. and would you

2239
02:13:52,020 --> 02:13:55,560
mind having that happen? And you being a nice guy,

2240
02:13:55,560 --> 02:13:57,900
you went, yeah, sure, no problem. I went, sure, yeah,

2241
02:13:57,900 --> 02:14:04,060
no problem. And that was a mistake. Because instead of

2242
02:14:04,060 --> 02:14:08,320
the normal, you know, the way he normally soothes, the

2243
02:14:08,320 --> 02:14:11,960
way he does the whole shivs you with the needle

2244
02:14:11,960 --> 02:14:15,320
to drain you, it goes like this. Okay, here's what

2245
02:14:15,320 --> 02:14:17,480
I'm doing now. I'm going between the third and fourth

2246
02:14:17,480 --> 02:14:22,100
rib. And notice that as it goes into the cavity

2247
02:14:22,100 --> 02:14:26,380
between the ribs, and he's describing this, the whole process.

2248
02:14:26,960 --> 02:14:31,480
And it's disconcerting, to say the least. So people out

2249
02:14:31,480 --> 02:14:36,820
there don't have an intern or a resident watch anything.

2250
02:14:38,420 --> 02:14:43,060
It was disgusting. I'm so sorry. But was it less

2251
02:14:43,060 --> 02:14:46,740
fluid than normal? Are we on the uptake here? Are

2252
02:14:46,740 --> 02:14:51,060
we doing better with this? Yeah, I think barely, yes.

2253
02:14:51,180 --> 02:14:52,780
Because I don't want you to have to have an

2254
02:14:52,780 --> 02:14:56,080
operation for that. No, it's just the whole thing. It's

2255
02:14:56,080 --> 02:14:59,100
just annoying. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, fluid. Are you going

2256
02:14:59,100 --> 02:15:00,500
to go home soon? Are you going to go back

2257
02:15:00,500 --> 02:15:03,940
home? Yeah, I can probably get there now. I mean,

2258
02:15:03,940 --> 02:15:08,260
but, you know, it's kind of comfortable being waited on.

2259
02:15:09,140 --> 02:15:14,040
Oh, my back hurts. Can somebody get me an aspirin?

2260
02:15:16,180 --> 02:15:20,240
I'm with you. I hear you. It's comfortable. Nice. All

2261
02:15:20,240 --> 02:15:27,980
right. All right. onward with Steve Slocum, who also came

2262
02:15:27,980 --> 02:15:32,960
in with $1,000. Hello, Adam and John. My name is Steve

2263
02:15:32,960 --> 02:15:37,640
Slocum from Columbia Station, Ohio. Long-time listener, first-time donor. Let's

2264
02:15:37,640 --> 02:15:40,160
deduce him. I started listening. Let's deduce him. Let's deduce

2265
02:15:40,160 --> 02:15:43,620
him. I mean, he didn't ask for it, but... You've

2266
02:15:43,620 --> 02:15:48,060
been deduced. Deduction. I started... Yeah, good. I started listening

2267
02:15:48,060 --> 02:15:52,860
after Adam's first Rogan appearance. Oh, Rogan donation. Rogan. this

2268
02:15:52,860 --> 02:15:56,880
information is a bit late but i felt it was

2269
02:15:56,880 --> 02:15:59,420
relevant to the show i'd worked in one of the

2270
02:15:59,000 --> 02:16:04,580
country's largest va health care facilities before and during and

2271
02:16:04,580 --> 02:16:08,540
after covid the messaging this country received during that period

2272
02:16:08,540 --> 02:16:12,260
of time was dramatically different than what was happening in

2273
02:16:12,260 --> 02:16:18,940
these facilities veterans with active covid diagnosis were forced to

2274
02:16:18,940 --> 02:16:22,820
isolate in patient rooms together for extended periods of time

2275
02:16:22,820 --> 02:16:27,900
when social distancing was arguably at its worst. It was

2276
02:16:27,900 --> 02:16:31,960
sickening to witness the lies firsthand. Thanks to the two

2277
02:16:31,960 --> 02:16:34,140
of you and all the producers during that time for

2278
02:16:34,140 --> 02:16:38,060
providing grounded, relevant information to keep some sanity in the

2279
02:16:38,060 --> 02:16:46,880
world. Well, thank you belatedly. With my $1,000 Bitcoin donation. Nice.

2280
02:16:46,940 --> 02:16:49,020
I guess it would be. Yeah, it did come in

2281
02:16:49,020 --> 02:16:52,060
as Bitcoin, yeah. I would like to claim an instantitehood

2282
02:16:52,060 --> 02:16:54,580
of the Order of the Heart to assist with John's

2283
02:16:54,580 --> 02:16:58,400
recovery. I'd like to claim Sir Steve as my official

2284
02:16:58,400 --> 02:17:03,100
title. Request Reverend Manning Bitcoin jingle as well as health

2285
02:17:03,100 --> 02:17:08,740
karma for all. Thanks, gentlemen. They're saying that all hell

2286
02:17:08,740 --> 02:17:10,180
is going to break loose and you're going to need

2287
02:17:10,180 --> 02:17:18,180
a Bitcoin. You've got karma. Lovely. There you go. You

2288
02:17:18,180 --> 02:17:21,600
know, a lot of people forget what we did during

2289
02:17:21,600 --> 02:17:24,480
COVID. They forget what we told you about Ukraine. They

2290
02:17:24,480 --> 02:17:27,400
forget all these things. And then they'll yell at us

2291
02:17:27,400 --> 02:17:29,200
for things. And then in five years, we'll be like,

2292
02:17:29,200 --> 02:17:32,620
yeah. back a couple years late yeah it's all right

2293
02:17:32,620 --> 02:17:35,220
now it's all right it's all right we can handle

2294
02:17:35,220 --> 02:17:39,440
it 2026 what do you say we make this show

2295
02:17:39,440 --> 02:17:43,740
an even 20 years 20 years there you go we're

2296
02:17:43,740 --> 02:17:47,940
getting there sir e61 black sheep ah now this is

2297
02:17:47,940 --> 02:17:51,540
time towns and treasure all in one he's the guy

2298
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that i was talking about earlier. Yeah. He gave us...

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Sir E61, is that some rank? No, I think that's

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02:17:58,600 --> 02:18:02,620
a Nokia phone. But maybe it is. I don't know.

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He's in Johnson City, Tennessee. But he's not because he's

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02:18:05,800 --> 02:18:08,300
boogying out of Kuwait. He says, I sent Adam an

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02:18:08,300 --> 02:18:14,120
update, which is $343.75, which might have been $333.33 with fees.

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We evacuated. You get real time here, fellas. So there

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02:18:17,880 --> 02:18:22,440
you go. Treasure, talent and time all in one. Thank

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02:18:22,440 --> 02:18:28,320
you very much, Sir E61 Black Sheep. Michael Trumbull in

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02:18:28,320 --> 02:18:33,840
Morris, Minnesota, 333.33. Here's a much overdue donation to the

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02:18:33,840 --> 02:18:38,540
best podcast in the universe. Your efforts and insights are

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02:18:38,540 --> 02:18:44,560
indispensable. And since COVID have been under supported, under supported,

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I tell you, in the treasure area. Thoughts and prayers

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02:18:47,660 --> 02:18:53,380
for you both. Mitch Trumbull. Thank you, Mitch. Dennis Cato

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coming in from Tampa, Florida. We recognize the name, 33333

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ITM John and Adam, just to give you some background.

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I actually have a history of correspondence with John going

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02:19:02,880 --> 02:19:08,500
back to 1999, though I'm sure he doesn't recall. Let's

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02:19:08,500 --> 02:19:12,980
find out. Oh, I recall every note. Let's see if

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02:19:12,980 --> 02:19:15,920
John remembers this. I was a Mac guy and an

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02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:19,500
Apple employee that would routinely take offense to his articles

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02:19:19,500 --> 02:19:23,000
where he would suggest Apple shut the doors, sell the

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02:19:23,000 --> 02:19:25,640
stock, and give it back to the shareholders or that

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jobs return would do absolutely nothing to bring the brand

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02:19:28,500 --> 02:19:33,860
back to prominence, etc. Wait, wait, wait. After a few

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02:19:33,860 --> 02:19:38,260
beers, I sent some aggressively curt emails to John suggesting

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02:19:38,260 --> 02:19:41,880
that he find a new position in life. That probably

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02:19:41,880 --> 02:19:44,940
went something like F you. But I was amazed when

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he actually would respond to my rantings and would be

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02:19:47,860 --> 02:19:51,880
ever so gracious and sweet. Okay, do you remember this?

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Oh, yeah, I'm a sweet guy. No, no. I'm sure

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02:19:55,780 --> 02:19:57,600
he wasn't the only Apple employee. No, there's a bunch

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02:19:57,600 --> 02:19:58,880
of people that rant because I...

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This really became mostly during the Mac era when I

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02:20:04,319 --> 02:20:07,896
was hired as the anti-editor of Mac User. Yes. By

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02:20:07,956 --> 02:20:12,670
the publisher, Felix Dennis. who I knew. Is he dead?

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02:20:12,690 --> 02:20:15,100
And he says, would you like to be the, we'd

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02:20:15,180 --> 02:20:17,870
like to put you on the inside back cover, but

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02:20:17,931 --> 02:20:21,660
your job is to just say bad. things so we

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02:20:21,700 --> 02:20:26,400
can balance the magazine. And you went, heck yeah, I'm

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02:20:26,520 --> 02:20:29,592
in. Oh, yeah, I can do that. No problemo. And

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02:20:29,672 --> 02:20:32,282
so I began it. And I was on the masthead

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02:20:32,422 --> 02:20:37,202
as the anti-editor. and I wrote these columns at the

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02:20:37,263 --> 02:20:40,420
back which were always critical and but I was also

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02:20:40,400 --> 02:20:44,676
critical in PC Magazine and elsewhere, especially when I wrote

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02:20:44,756 --> 02:20:48,069
the column, which I think Steve Jobs put up in

2344
02:20:48,109 --> 02:20:53,297
a frame, which was... Steve Jobs' good riddance when he

2345
02:20:53,517 --> 02:20:57,772
quit. It was a classic. But yeah, I got a

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02:20:57,813 --> 02:21:02,446
bunch of guys like this that were... That's funny. That's

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02:21:02,506 --> 02:21:07,874
funny. He says, speaking of sweet like John. We invite

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02:21:08,014 --> 02:21:10,984
everyone in Gitmo Nation to try our Manuka Gold Honey

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with Lemongrass, Ginger and Turmeric. Visit us at ManukaGold.com. That's

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Manuka with a K. For our wonderful line of wellness

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products. well at manukagold.com so this is an apple guy

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02:21:25,397 --> 02:21:29,786
who sold this stock and bought some bees And I

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02:21:29,847 --> 02:21:32,548
love that story. And I love your product, Dennis. Dennis

2354
02:21:32,589 --> 02:21:35,465
Cato, Tampa, Florida. Thank you. Eli the coffee guy in

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02:21:35,505 --> 02:21:39,820
Bensonville, Illinois 20517. Cheers to Bulgaria! Winner of the 70th

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02:21:39,800 --> 02:21:43,708
Eurovision contest as the boys in the millennial media offensive

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02:21:43,748 --> 02:21:47,819
say The Black Sea is in play. Wouldn't surprise me

2358
02:21:47,859 --> 02:21:52,455
to hear more from Bulgaria and Romania as European nationalism

2359
02:21:52,596 --> 02:21:57,465
shifts further east. That sea matters more than most realize

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02:21:57,545 --> 02:22:01,171
for the energy needs of the West. Fortunately, none of

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the current world turmoil has touched the coffee supply yet.

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Get some fresh roasted coffee and visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use

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Eli, the coffee guy. Then coming in with $200, another

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associate executive producership for... a dot farmer from Uden. In

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02:22:23,962 --> 02:22:27,844
the Netherlands. And he wants to hear a boogity boogity,

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02:22:27,864 --> 02:22:31,004
mac and cheese, shut up slaves, and a yak karma.

2368
02:22:31,968 --> 02:22:35,425
And he says, or traveling yak karma. Bless me, podfathers,

2369
02:22:35,445 --> 02:22:37,756
for I have sinned. I would like to thank you.

2370
02:22:38,528 --> 02:22:41,522
both for your time and talent, eight years of listening

2371
02:22:41,582 --> 02:22:45,610
here by some treasure. I would like a de-douche. You've

2372
02:22:45,810 --> 02:22:48,756
been de-douched. John, I love your view on the world,

2373
02:22:48,796 --> 02:22:50,921
the stories you tell about the different jobs you had

2374
02:22:50,981 --> 02:22:53,385
and situations you were in. By the way, my smoking

2375
02:22:53,425 --> 02:22:58,075
hot wife really likes your voice. Adam, thank you for

2376
02:22:58,135 --> 02:23:02,475
inventing podcasting, providing the bi-weekly crisp. and perfect sound quality

2377
02:23:02,515 --> 02:23:04,573
and making the show so much fun to listen to.

2378
02:23:04,916 --> 02:23:07,736
I'm the fun one. My kids know your intro by

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02:23:07,756 --> 02:23:11,005
heart, reproducing it every time a new episode starts. You

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02:23:11,045 --> 02:23:13,230
guys are the best. The Noah Jinder Show truly is

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02:23:13,250 --> 02:23:16,339
the best podcast in the universe. Now to business. Message

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02:23:16,459 --> 02:23:22,132
for... um the first ukrainian clogs on the ground meetup.

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02:23:22,520 --> 02:23:26,469
Hear ye, hear ye. To all farmers, shills, spooks, and

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02:23:26,549 --> 02:23:29,516
members of the Gitmo Nations, you are warmly invited to

2385
02:23:29,596 --> 02:23:31,881
join us for burgers and beers as we celebrate the

2386
02:23:31,941 --> 02:23:35,349
birthday of our favorite former mink farmer, now a dude

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02:23:35,429 --> 02:23:38,596
named Ben. We all raise a glass to knee-high corn

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02:23:38,676 --> 02:23:42,785
to 1,560. days of Russian peace and freedom and to

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02:23:42,805 --> 02:23:46,593
the honest and non-corrupt Ukrainians, the honest and non-corrupt Ukrainians,

2390
02:23:46,974 --> 02:23:51,303
all while supporting the Ukrainian economy. Join us. This is

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02:23:51,323 --> 02:23:55,090
the first. Join us on Saturday, June 6th at 6

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02:23:55,130 --> 02:23:59,820
o'clock at the Fat Moose in Bylak Tserkva in Ukraine.

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02:23:59,892 --> 02:24:02,199
Man, I need a meter per portrait. Wow, that would

2394
02:24:02,239 --> 02:24:05,289
be great if anyone shows up. That's awesome. We look

2395
02:24:05,329 --> 02:24:09,542
forward to seeing you there. Please RSVP, kind regards, a.farmer,

2396
02:24:09,762 --> 02:24:13,801
end of message. And he sent me a very... long

2397
02:24:13,922 --> 02:24:17,552
and beautiful boots on the ground about farming in Ukraine.

2398
02:24:17,908 --> 02:24:24,962
that was extremely informative. And he also said. everything yes

2399
02:24:25,103 --> 02:24:28,141
some drones fly most of them are shot down the

2400
02:24:28,181 --> 02:24:31,743
russian drones um One of them exploded in one of

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02:24:31,783 --> 02:24:35,401
his fields, a 10 by 10 foot hole, three feet

2402
02:24:35,482 --> 02:24:39,944
deep. He says, and yes, some people die and the...

2403
02:24:40,268 --> 02:24:44,167
cemeteries in you Ukraine are unbelievably full, just people that

2404
02:24:44,207 --> 02:24:46,854
just thrown bodies on top of one another. It's flags

2405
02:24:46,934 --> 02:24:49,681
everywhere. But he also says the front is has pretty

2406
02:24:49,721 --> 02:24:52,367
much been stagnant for weeks. There's not a lot going

2407
02:24:52,507 --> 02:24:55,890
on. Which makes sense because we haven't heard much. We

2408
02:24:56,191 --> 02:24:59,469
haven't heard much going on. Anyway, let me... That is

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02:24:59,489 --> 02:25:01,620
a very good report. Let me give you your jingle.

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02:25:01,600 --> 02:25:05,455
you You slaves can get used to mac and cheese,

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02:25:05,475 --> 02:25:09,004
mac and cheese, mac and cheese, macaroni and cheese, cheddar

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02:25:09,204 --> 02:25:13,034
melted together, mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and

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02:25:13,054 --> 02:25:36,853
cheese. You've got... karma Linda Lupatkin in Castle Rock, Colorado.

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02:25:36,893 --> 02:25:41,085
$200 jobs karma. Your resume has about 10 seconds. to

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02:25:41,125 --> 02:25:44,103
make an impression, and most don't. For a resume that

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02:25:44,123 --> 02:25:50,238
gets results, go to imagemakersinc.com. Linda helps professionals and executives

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02:25:50,700 --> 02:25:54,496
turn their experience into a clear story of leadership results

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02:25:55,119 --> 02:25:58,718
and impact. That's Image Makers Inc. with a K with

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02:25:58,941 --> 02:26:10,228
Linda Liu, Duchess of Java. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

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02:26:11,256 --> 02:26:16,359
And we have one final associate executive producer, Lois Forrestal.

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02:26:16,680 --> 02:26:21,421
Forrestal in Bellingham, Washington. $200. We did not receive... a

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02:26:21,461 --> 02:26:23,807
note from Lois? No, we did get a note. We

2423
02:26:23,827 --> 02:26:26,294
did? Where's the note? Yeah, it's a note that says

2424
02:26:26,334 --> 02:26:28,841
no note. Oh, but I'm still going to give Lois

2425
02:26:28,901 --> 02:26:31,488
a double up karma if you don't mind. You've got.

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02:26:33,188 --> 02:26:37,405
And with that, we thank our executive and associate executive

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02:26:37,445 --> 02:26:41,701
producers for episode 1869 of The Best Pod. Thank you

2428
02:26:42,503 --> 02:26:51,906
again for supporting us, you executive and associate executive producers.

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02:26:52,668 --> 02:26:59,716
Our formula is this. We hit people in the mouth.

2430
02:27:12,776 --> 02:27:15,753
The rest of our $50 and above supporters, value for

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02:27:15,813 --> 02:27:20,720
value, which includes Mike Duffy from Blenheim, New Zealand, 194.6.

2432
02:27:20,700 --> 02:27:24,908
which is, uh, that's right. He's going to be bumped

2433
02:27:25,009 --> 02:27:28,556
up. It's a $333 and 33 cents, New Zealand bucks

2434
02:27:29,137 --> 02:27:32,022
and wants business karma. The last round works so well.

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02:27:32,103 --> 02:27:34,788
We've quit our jobs. Now we're hot dog and full

2436
02:27:34,848 --> 02:27:39,116
time. Thanks. Florida's hot dogs. The best hot dogs in

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02:27:39,157 --> 02:27:43,558
the Florida's Laura. Flora. Flora's hot dogs. The best hot

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02:27:43,578 --> 02:27:46,905
dogs in the universe. That's interesting. Is he a hot

2439
02:27:46,965 --> 02:27:49,436
dog maker? He's a hot dog maker. Send us some

2440
02:27:49,476 --> 02:27:55,361
product, bro. You've got karma. Product. We want product. Bro.

2441
02:27:55,642 --> 02:27:59,932
Bro. Boob donation from the boob man himself, Kevin McLaughlin,

2442
02:27:59,952 --> 02:28:03,085
the Archduke of... Luna, Love of America and Boobs, $80.08.

2443
02:28:03,185 --> 02:28:07,073
As always, he says, God bless America and boobs. Sir

2444
02:28:07,113 --> 02:28:11,401
Kevin O'Brien, Chicago, Illinois, with a small boob, $60.06. You

2445
02:28:11,421 --> 02:28:13,986
can see for yourself how that works. Along with Les

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02:28:14,006 --> 02:28:19,097
Tarkowski from Kingman, Arizona, $60 from David Arellanas from Escondido,

2447
02:28:19,197 --> 02:28:24,628
California. Steve Bansky. Ah, yes. Steve Bantra. He is our

2448
02:28:24,648 --> 02:28:29,054
Southwest. Southwest? I used to love Southwest, but they are

2449
02:28:29,114 --> 02:28:33,612
now the most expensive airline there is. If you want

2450
02:28:33,632 --> 02:28:35,745
to go to Nashville... What do you think a round

2451
02:28:35,765 --> 02:28:39,028
trip to Nashville costs? Well, it would probably normally be

2452
02:28:39,048 --> 02:28:46,460
$69. $700. What? Yes. And that's not even before you

2453
02:28:46,501 --> 02:28:49,290
get like, you know, early boarding because they've changed it

2454
02:28:49,350 --> 02:28:51,578
now. You don't have that cool boarding that I like.

2455
02:28:51,598 --> 02:28:53,926
Now they have boarding groups. And you still have to

2456
02:28:53,966 --> 02:28:57,717
pay extra for your luggage. It's insane. You can fly

2457
02:28:57,778 --> 02:29:02,361
Delta or United for $399. I don't know. I don't

2458
02:29:02,401 --> 02:29:04,420
see why people still, I think people are using up

2459
02:29:04,500 --> 02:29:07,738
all of their, here's what I think happened. I know

2460
02:29:07,758 --> 02:29:10,807
what happened. The CEO changed. Yeah, the bean counters came

2461
02:29:10,908 --> 02:29:14,038
in. They said, let's have everybody use up all of

2462
02:29:14,098 --> 02:29:17,549
their points and miles at these exorbitant prices, and then

2463
02:29:17,589 --> 02:29:19,656
we'll lower it down again. I think they're just trying

2464
02:29:19,676 --> 02:29:22,285
to get rid of all those point people. Because I

2465
02:29:23,106 --> 02:29:25,050
can't believe that they're paying that kind of money. Anyway,

2466
02:29:25,090 --> 02:29:28,757
Steve has nothing to do with the organization, although he

2467
02:29:28,797 --> 02:29:30,701
flies for them, and I hear he's a great pilot.

2468
02:29:31,723 --> 02:29:35,650
And he says, have some more eggs, Steve Banstra. $59.93.

2469
02:29:35,991 --> 02:29:38,817
Thank you, Steve. Sir Shelfwood, I'm out in the Netherlands.

2470
02:29:38,837 --> 02:29:43,124
$59.86. That's a... 5678 donation and I'm picking up the

2471
02:29:43,164 --> 02:29:45,387
fees. Keep on keeping on, he says. He's from Gitmo

2472
02:29:45,427 --> 02:29:52,318
Lowlands. Mark Dunford, $58.56. Sir Commodore Crummy, El Cajon, California,

2473
02:29:52,338 --> 02:29:57,966
$57.98. James Edmondson, South Plainfield, New Jersey, double nickels on

2474
02:29:58,006 --> 02:30:00,009
the dime, $55.10. Same for anonymous.

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02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:02,665
Ms. Neal from Elm City in North Carolina and Dean

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02:30:02,705 --> 02:30:05,511
Roker, also with double nickels on the dime. Andrew Young,

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02:30:05,531 --> 02:30:12,144
5272. Baroness Monica, Drayton Valley, Alberta, California, 51.11. And she

2478
02:30:12,204 --> 02:30:18,998
says, boy, the exchange rate on dollar-roos is atrocious. Sorry

2479
02:30:19,038 --> 02:30:21,621
about that, Baroness Monica. Thank you for the support. Viscount

2480
02:30:21,661 --> 02:30:26,458
Sir Economic Hitman, Tomball, Texas, $50.01 to stay out of

2481
02:30:26,518 --> 02:30:30,533
that 50 group. And here they are, Pamela Bradley, Tecumseh,

2482
02:30:30,673 --> 02:30:34,578
Oklahoma. I'm sure I did that wrong. Chris Cohen, Austin,

2483
02:30:34,598 --> 02:30:40,586
Texas. Jason Geil. In Holland, we say Geil. which is,

2484
02:30:41,008 --> 02:30:45,791
the Dutch people will be smiling. Lake Oswego, Oregon. Michael

2485
02:30:45,851 --> 02:30:52,378
Sikora, Lake Elmo, Minnesota. Noah McDonald, Traverse City, Michigan. Scott

2486
02:30:52,418 --> 02:30:57,533
Lavender, Montgomery, Texas. Patrick Bomer in Amstelveen, the Netherlands. And

2487
02:30:57,573 --> 02:31:00,020
he says, gewoon voor de beste podcast van de univers.

2488
02:31:00,000 --> 02:31:03,741
Yes, yes. Groetjes for jouw en voor John. Yes. And

2489
02:31:03,781 --> 02:31:07,149
our last $50 donor is Dame Rosie Posey. And she

2490
02:31:07,209 --> 02:31:08,973
is just saying that she's very glad to hear how

2491
02:31:09,154 --> 02:31:13,203
each episode John's voice is getting stronger. Yes. She wrote

2492
02:31:13,223 --> 02:31:16,310
a cute card. Thank you. She has really pretty handwriting.

2493
02:31:16,791 --> 02:31:20,520
And she also wants to put Paul Lincoln, Sir Mama's...

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boy of the arc welders on the birthday list for

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02:31:22,909 --> 02:31:24,896
may 22nd and we will take care of all of

2496
02:31:24,916 --> 02:31:27,987
that thank you 50 and above we never uh mention

2497
02:31:28,047 --> 02:31:30,757
anyone under 50 for reasons of anonymity and that is

2498
02:31:30,958 --> 02:31:33,866
critical So we don't do that, but we do see

2499
02:31:33,906 --> 02:31:35,977
you and we thank you very much for all of

2500
02:31:36,017 --> 02:31:37,625
the support that you have given. I do have an

2501
02:31:37,806 --> 02:31:41,572
extra karma request I'll take care of. Sir Bob, and

2502
02:31:41,612 --> 02:31:44,802
we do break for nights, wants job and F cancer

2503
02:31:44,842 --> 02:31:50,019
karma for himself and for his family. Jobs, jobs, jobs,

2504
02:31:50,239 --> 02:31:59,272
and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Thought Karma. Support the

2505
02:31:59,312 --> 02:32:03,126
best podcast. In the universe, go to noagendadonations.com. You can

2506
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support us any way you want, even with Bitcoin. I

2507
02:32:05,271 --> 02:32:08,517
think we even take stablecoin. I think it's on there

2508
02:32:08,557 --> 02:32:12,886
through Stripe. But we like dollars. We like PayPal. Whatever

2509
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you want to do. Whatever amount. Whatever. We love the

2510
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checks. We love the checks. Yes, we do. Because there's

2511
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15 cent processing fee. checks are the best absolutely and

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you can find all of the information for that at

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no agenda donations.com you could even set up a recurring

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donation if you feel like it any amount any frequency

2515
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it's all up to you because we give it all

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to you with no expectation other than at one point

2517
02:32:34,890 --> 02:32:37,615
in your life and maybe even more than once maybe

2518
02:32:37,755 --> 02:32:40,301
even weekly or monthly you will return some value to

2519
02:32:40,382 --> 02:32:50,386
us. Noagendadonations.com. At the top of the list we see

2520
02:32:50,626 --> 02:32:53,737
Eric Mackey, who we haven't heard from in a while

2521
02:32:53,798 --> 02:32:57,671
and he celebrates on the 18th tomorrow. Happy birthday, Eric.

2522
02:32:58,293 --> 02:33:02,164
Brennan Lawton, ha! on the 18th as well. This is

2523
02:33:02,244 --> 02:33:05,069
a family affair. And then as we just heard, Dame

2524
02:33:05,130 --> 02:33:08,015
Rosie Posey wishes her mama's boy of the Ark Welders

2525
02:33:08,035 --> 02:33:11,703
a very happy birthday. He celebrates on May 22nd. We

2526
02:33:11,783 --> 02:33:14,368
lift you all up and say happy birthday from everybody

2527
02:33:14,408 --> 02:33:19,479
here at the best podcast in the universe. And here

2528
02:33:19,539 --> 02:33:37,535
we go. Bring two new orders of the heart into

2529
02:33:37,616 --> 02:33:40,620
our family, and in fact, they will be knighted momentarily.

2530
02:33:40,916 --> 02:33:42,701
But we like to do this right up at the

2531
02:33:42,761 --> 02:33:46,792
top. Samuel Montgomery and Steve Slocum, both of you gentlemen,

2532
02:33:46,973 --> 02:33:51,686
will become Red Knights Order of the Heart momentarily. And

2533
02:33:51,726 --> 02:33:55,376
we thank you so much for your Insta Knight donations.

2534
02:34:10,552 --> 02:34:12,537
Let's bring these guys up on the podium. There is

2535
02:34:12,578 --> 02:34:14,583
my blade. We need to make them official. If you

2536
02:34:14,603 --> 02:34:17,230
can take it out of the scabbard there. Very nice.

2537
02:34:17,631 --> 02:34:20,820
That's a handsome one. I like that one. Samuel Montgomery.

2538
02:34:21,500 --> 02:34:26,470
as it is time for you to become official as

2539
02:34:26,650 --> 02:34:29,276
I am very proud to pronounce the Kate V as

2540
02:34:29,376 --> 02:34:33,184
Sir Samuel Montgomery and Sir Steve, both Knights of the

2541
02:34:33,244 --> 02:34:55,469
NO Agenda Round Table. And of course, we've got the

2542
02:34:55,549 --> 02:34:59,758
mutton and the mead right here for you. Woo-hoo! Head

2543
02:34:59,798 --> 02:35:03,437
over to no agenda ring stock. and you will be

2544
02:35:03,538 --> 02:35:08,800
astounded by the beauty of those rings. They are signet

2545
02:35:08,860 --> 02:35:11,970
rings, which means you can use them to seal your

2546
02:35:11,990 --> 02:35:16,646
important correspondence. And we do that by giving you some

2547
02:35:16,886 --> 02:35:20,398
sealing wax, little sticks of wax that you can just

2548
02:35:20,478 --> 02:35:22,808
melt down. in the movies it's really quite just really

2549
02:35:22,869 --> 02:35:26,024
quite efficient and beautiful and as always you get a

2550
02:35:26,587 --> 02:35:31,734
um certification, an official certification, a certificate, as it were,

2551
02:35:32,075 --> 02:35:33,879
that shows that this is the real deal. And you

2552
02:35:33,939 --> 02:35:45,470
are now a knight of the No Agenda Roundtable. Meetups,

2553
02:35:46,013 --> 02:35:48,486
the Erection Connection, as we just heard earlier on the

2554
02:35:48,526 --> 02:35:51,502
show. This is where you can find people who listen

2555
02:35:51,542 --> 02:35:54,862
to the show, even in Ukraine. everywhere around the world.

2556
02:35:54,882 --> 02:35:57,656
We are truly worldwide. It's an amazing community that you

2557
02:35:57,737 --> 02:36:00,652
are a part of and you should solidify that relationship

2558
02:36:00,712 --> 02:36:02,781
because this connection will give you protection. the people who

2559
02:36:02,821 --> 02:36:05,487
meet at the meetups will be your first responders in

2560
02:36:05,667 --> 02:36:09,535
any emergency and sometimes people send in meter reports and

2561
02:36:09,595 --> 02:36:11,559
i'd love to play one from the resist we much

2562
02:36:11,779 --> 02:36:16,048
meet up in los banos this is sir robertson of

2563
02:36:16,088 --> 02:36:19,475
two sticks at the resist we much meet up honoring

2564
02:36:19,655 --> 02:36:25,938
armed forces day Sir Montauk here enjoying a delicious pizza

2565
02:36:26,300 --> 02:36:34,010
and excellent conversation. In the morning! All right. We have

2566
02:36:34,070 --> 02:36:37,344
a written meetup from Leiden where the folks met in

2567
02:36:37,364 --> 02:36:39,573
the Netherlands on the 8th of May. Adam and John,

2568
02:36:39,593 --> 02:36:42,242
10 producers met in Leiden. Thank you for your courage.

2569
02:36:42,462 --> 02:36:47,332
Zobim El-Dudirachi, Black Knight El-Dudirachi, Joop, Andy, Robby, Arno, Roland,

2570
02:36:47,352 --> 02:36:51,020
Sebastian, Anita, and Pedro. Shout out to Joop and Andy

2571
02:36:51,040 --> 02:36:53,505
for coming to their first No Agenda meetup, says Baron

2572
02:36:53,685 --> 02:36:56,591
Rob. Next meetup will be in Rotterdam on June 26

2573
02:36:56,791 --> 02:37:01,858
in Café Hagsbluff. Pending MeVie's approval on Noah Jenner meetup

2574
02:37:01,878 --> 02:37:03,884
stock. I'm sure she will approve it. We also have

2575
02:37:03,944 --> 02:37:06,188
a meetup taking place today. This is the big one

2576
02:37:06,249 --> 02:37:10,537
in Indianapolis, Indiana. The May the Road Rise to Meet

2577
02:37:10,577 --> 02:37:13,263
You meetup, that is underway as we speak at St.

2578
02:37:14,505 --> 02:37:18,152
Joseph's Brewery and Public House in Indianapolis. Dame Maria and

2579
02:37:18,213 --> 02:37:20,377
Sir Mark of the Greenwood hosting that, of course. Next

2580
02:37:20,417 --> 02:37:23,583
show today on Thursday, Charlotte's... Thursday, Thursday, Thursday, monthly meetup,

2581
02:37:23,623 --> 02:37:26,870
7 o'clock at Tavern, as always, in Charlotte, North Carolina.

2582
02:37:26,890 --> 02:37:29,315
For the rest of this month, in May, on the

2583
02:37:29,335 --> 02:37:34,465
22nd, hello, Frenchies, Molison Gers in France. Go look at

2584
02:37:34,505 --> 02:37:37,872
it on noagentameetups.com. We have a dame over there, and

2585
02:37:37,972 --> 02:37:39,916
she will show you a good time. I mean, she

2586
02:37:39,956 --> 02:37:42,461
has wine, she has cheese, she has everything. That's on

2587
02:37:42,481 --> 02:37:46,749
the 22nd, the 23rd, Wilmington, Delaware, Los Angeles, California, Hickson,

2588
02:37:46,789 --> 02:37:52,000
Tennessee, Franklin, Tennessee, and the 24th, Keyport, New Jersey, Vancouver,

2589
02:37:52,020 --> 02:37:54,886
British Columbia on the 24th, Squim, Washington on the 25th

2590
02:37:54,986 --> 02:37:59,214
with Mimi attending, and Anchorage, Alaska on May 30th. No

2591
02:37:59,234 --> 02:38:03,774
agenda meetups, noagendameetups.com. Head over there. and find one near

2592
02:38:03,834 --> 02:38:06,740
you. It's very easy to start one yourself. If you

2593
02:38:06,780 --> 02:38:10,086
can't find anything, it's a great time. I guarantee you,

2594
02:38:10,166 --> 02:38:13,992
you will love it. You will not regret it. Noagendameetups.com.

2595
02:38:14,013 --> 02:38:18,220
It's very simple to start one and always a party.

2596
02:38:19,760 --> 02:38:37,500
*music* you say John's tip of the day is coming

2597
02:38:37,580 --> 02:38:40,936
up shortly, and we also have some really good end-of-show

2598
02:38:40,956 --> 02:38:43,992
mixes. I'm excited. play those for you. But first, for

2599
02:38:44,032 --> 02:38:46,418
some reason, for a long time, we've been doing the

2600
02:38:46,578 --> 02:38:49,324
ISO selection at this part of the show, and we

2601
02:38:49,364 --> 02:38:51,629
don't even remember why, but it's always fun. And I

2602
02:38:51,669 --> 02:38:54,755
will start since that's how it usually runs. John never

2603
02:38:54,815 --> 02:38:56,399
wants to go first. You never want to go first.

2604
02:38:56,439 --> 02:39:00,301
You notice that? Of course I notice it. Okay, well

2605
02:39:00,321 --> 02:39:03,396
I'll go then. I love your perspec- You're absolutely right.

2606
02:39:04,456 --> 02:39:10,288
little long We are good to go, buddy. Maybe this

2607
02:39:10,430 --> 02:39:13,923
one. That was good. Okay. I think this one's the

2608
02:39:13,963 --> 02:39:18,280
best. It was quite impressive. I like that one. It's

2609
02:39:18,301 --> 02:39:25,181
okay. Uh-huh. What you got? Let's start with... the A

2610
02:39:25,201 --> 02:39:32,318
douchebag. God, I'm a douchebag. Is that from Family Guy?

2611
02:39:32,338 --> 02:39:41,561
Yeah. That was the vaping episode. I'm a douchebag. I

2612
02:39:41,622 --> 02:39:43,710
thought we should just keep that as a regular. High

2613
02:39:43,771 --> 02:39:53,085
contender. High contender. All right. EEEE Let's go with... Gee

2614
02:39:53,145 --> 02:39:58,424
willikers. Gee willikers. Gee willikers. What a great show. No.

2615
02:39:58,684 --> 02:40:00,009
Rejected. I reject that one.

2616
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:03,029
out of hand. Why? You can do better. You can

2617
02:40:03,069 --> 02:40:07,200
do better. Top show. Wow, top that show, you chumps.

2618
02:40:07,321 --> 02:40:09,727
Yes, that's what I'm talking about. We have a winner,

2619
02:40:10,249 --> 02:40:14,922
and we have John's tip of the day. Green Vibes

2620
02:40:14,942 --> 02:40:19,722
for you and me. Just the tip with JCB. Hence.

2621
02:40:19,700 --> 02:40:26,775
Sometimes. Can we get some time to start planting gardens?

2622
02:40:27,560 --> 02:40:34,148
Is it now? We're in April, May? Yeah. So everybody

2623
02:40:34,168 --> 02:40:39,720
should go out and get a stirrupo. We had those.

2624
02:40:39,700 --> 02:40:42,588
in Amsterdam in the red light district. Aren't they great?

2625
02:40:42,769 --> 02:40:44,975
Yeah, fantastic. What is this? No, I'm not talking about

2626
02:40:44,995 --> 02:40:48,124
it. It's also called a, there's another name for these

2627
02:40:48,224 --> 02:40:54,316
things. They're called. What's the name? I don't know. I'm

2628
02:40:54,517 --> 02:40:56,190
going to get it. I don't even know what a

2629
02:40:56,250 --> 02:40:59,666
stirrup hoe is. Look it up, a stirrup hoe is

2630
02:40:59,706 --> 02:41:03,717
like a hoe. Yeah. Only instead of being a flat

2631
02:41:04,480 --> 02:41:07,995
surface thing, it's got a loop and it allows you

2632
02:41:08,096 --> 02:41:10,507
to... Oh, put your foot in it and jam it

2633
02:41:10,607 --> 02:41:14,784
in. No, it's good for, it is the greatest weeding

2634
02:41:14,885 --> 02:41:19,288
tool you can imagine. Oh. It just basically pulls the

2635
02:41:19,368 --> 02:41:23,194
weeds out. It's also called some other kind of hoe,

2636
02:41:24,280 --> 02:41:27,991
which is funnier. I don't want to get the name,

2637
02:41:28,011 --> 02:41:31,523
so hang on. Well, we're at the edge of our

2638
02:41:31,564 --> 02:41:37,525
seats here. Yeah, these are available at... Pastime and all

2639
02:41:37,565 --> 02:41:42,291
the big hardware stores. Let me find it. here. Stirrup

2640
02:41:42,332 --> 02:41:56,357
ho. Tally-ho. Hula-ho. Stirrupo. Hold on. I'm holding on. I'm

2641
02:41:56,398 --> 02:42:00,501
just sitting here waiting, watching the meters go silent. I'm

2642
02:42:00,641 --> 02:42:05,656
sorry, but I... You're underprepared. I closed one of the

2643
02:42:05,716 --> 02:42:09,628
windows that has it. It's also called an action hoe.

2644
02:42:10,176 --> 02:42:16,163
An action hoe. Which is really more the Amsterdam... It's

2645
02:42:16,323 --> 02:42:19,779
a show title, is what that is. Action hoe. Action

2646
02:42:19,979 --> 02:42:23,676
hoe. Yeah. And Home Depot has them. The Husky makes

2647
02:42:23,737 --> 02:42:27,867
a good one. A 54-in-1 would handle action hoe with

2648
02:42:28,029 --> 02:42:32,669
grip. These are just terrific products for gardeners. I used

2649
02:42:32,689 --> 02:42:34,538
to have one years ago. I forgot all about it

2650
02:42:34,558 --> 02:42:38,556
until Jay and Brennan brought one to the house here.

2651
02:42:39,168 --> 02:42:41,241
And they're gardening. Yeah, and they got a big garden

2652
02:42:41,282 --> 02:42:44,438
in the backyard. Oh. And so they're using this thing

2653
02:42:44,478 --> 02:42:48,675
as she's all jacked up about the action hoe. Yeah,

2654
02:42:48,695 --> 02:42:50,706
well, there's a lot of punchlines there with the word

2655
02:42:50,826 --> 02:42:55,031
action hoe, but it's really technically a stirrup hoe. Everyone

2656
02:42:55,051 --> 02:42:57,868
should get one. They're about 25 bucks max. Go get

2657
02:42:57,908 --> 02:43:00,210
your action hoe, everybody. That's a two. Tip of the

2658
02:43:00,250 --> 02:43:06,650
Day you will only find at noagendafun.com, tipoftheday.net. ♪ For

2659
02:43:06,671 --> 02:43:12,689
me, just a tip with JCB ♪ Sometimes, Adam. Created

2660
02:43:12,769 --> 02:43:15,601
by Dana Burnetti. Aren't you glad you waited? Yeah, I

2661
02:43:15,621 --> 02:43:17,569
am. Aren't you glad? I'm telling you. I'm telling you.

2662
02:43:17,629 --> 02:43:19,718
Look it up. This show is good to the last

2663
02:43:19,798 --> 02:43:23,529
drop. How many people listen to the tip of the

2664
02:43:23,589 --> 02:43:29,138
day? Oh, I'll do an analysis. One day. I bet

2665
02:43:29,419 --> 02:43:34,076
you about half, maybe half. No, no, 20%. 20%? You

2666
02:43:34,096 --> 02:43:37,417
think we'd fall off that much? For tip of the

2667
02:43:37,477 --> 02:43:42,152
day, yeah. I think so. Most podcasts... fall off pretty

2668
02:43:42,214 --> 02:43:47,036
substantially. After a while. But there's always that group that

2669
02:43:47,076 --> 02:43:48,900
just hangs in there all the way. And they're the

2670
02:43:49,000 --> 02:43:51,566
ones. Those are the good guys. Yeah, of course. And

2671
02:43:51,606 --> 02:43:54,353
they learn about all the fun stuff that everybody else

2672
02:43:54,433 --> 02:43:58,932
misses. Your loss. End of show mixes from Just Baker

2673
02:43:58,973 --> 02:44:04,534
and MVP. Love those guys. They're prompting away. They're doing

2674
02:44:04,594 --> 02:44:07,642
good things now. I mean, it gets better every single

2675
02:44:07,662 --> 02:44:11,252
time. End of show. Let's see. After the show, we

2676
02:44:11,292 --> 02:44:16,455
have the Millennial Media Offensive coming up. with Hans von

2677
02:44:16,576 --> 02:44:21,693
Spankovsky. Oh yeah, that makes total sense. Sounds like those

2678
02:44:21,793 --> 02:44:24,878
guys. And we will return on Thursday. We hope you

2679
02:44:24,938 --> 02:44:27,602
join us. And I am coming to you from the

2680
02:44:27,682 --> 02:44:30,706
heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in Fredericksburg,

2681
02:44:30,766 --> 02:44:33,510
Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from

2682
02:44:33,590 --> 02:44:37,536
Refinery Row, I'm John C. Dvorak. And please remember us

2683
02:44:37,556 --> 02:44:53,441
at noagendadonations.com. Until Thursday, adios. Mofoza, HooeyHooey, and Saj. Hey.

2684
02:44:54,564 --> 02:44:58,689
Beijing lights the great heart glows red Trump grins why

2685
02:44:58,991 --> 02:45:35,780
she knows his head fantastic Thank you. But blacked out

2686
02:45:35,881 --> 02:45:46,765
while the spooks take notes. Not a smoke. voice in

2687
02:45:46,785 --> 02:45:51,879
this corporate arc. War powers dance, I ran on life

2688
02:45:51,940 --> 02:45:55,989
support, another chance to keep the forever machine in advance

2689
02:45:56,029 --> 02:45:58,849
while the cruise ship coughs up his deadly romance in

2690
02:45:59,010 --> 02:46:59,032
the CIA. This script writes us all. you trees in

2691
02:46:59,073 --> 02:47:03,412
the valley where the John's locking the doors, falling down

2692
02:47:03,573 --> 02:47:06,378
to his knees, while the typhus is scratching to get

2693
02:47:06,558 --> 02:47:09,764
in. The screens are all glowing, a ghost like blue,

2694
02:47:09,805 --> 02:47:13,291
in a house that feels like a cage. The silence

2695
02:47:13,311 --> 02:47:17,118
is heavy, the shadows are new, in this lonely, fevered

2696
02:47:17,138 --> 02:47:37,102
age. Oh! ♪ ♪ Statham walks through the Dutch lowlands,

2697
02:47:37,122 --> 02:47:39,576
looking for a shadow from a hollow past with a

2698
02:47:39,616 --> 02:47:42,647
hand to... ♪ Reaching for his hands ♪ ♪ No

2699
02:47:42,667 --> 02:47:44,191
comfort in the travel ♪ ♪ No peace in the

2700
02:47:44,272 --> 02:47:47,401
flight ♪ ♪ Just two hearts beating out of time

2701
02:47:47,421 --> 02:47:49,547
♪ ♪ One staring at the ceiling in the dead

2702
02:47:49,567 --> 02:47:52,035
of night ♪ ♪ The other in a cold and

2703
02:47:52,155 --> 02:47:58,351
rhythmic climb ♪ Fever's coming for us all. So far

2704
02:48:00,299 --> 02:48:41,173
apart. So afraid you Not by day. the sky. Women,

2705
02:48:41,195 --> 02:48:46,494
child. civilian cars targeted the anchors lie scholars need mcclinton

2706
02:48:46,554 --> 02:48:52,597
slow west bank march is crushed again 700 protests But

2707
02:48:52,617 --> 02:48:56,519
the camera spins the end. The show ends down. I

2708
02:48:56,539 --> 02:49:02,592
get more nation never sleeps. Dustin deals in. the news

2709
02:49:02,613 --> 02:49:20,137
they say. And she talks in Beijing. *Brain Jet* Cease.

2710
02:49:22,224 --> 02:49:28,675
Oh, ghosts line up for the list. Same hand, same

2711
02:49:28,776 --> 02:49:53,933
twisted twist. Producer. This signal's a lie. Just the truth

2712
02:50:02,012 --> 02:50:33,637
No agenda. *music* MoFo. Dvorak.org. Slash. N. A. show you

2713
02:50:33,781 --> 02:50:34,561
chumps!