1 00:00:06,029 --> 00:00:10,079 FAQs with Adam curry for February 29 2020. This is 2 00:00:10,079 --> 00:00:13,649 episode number 27. Amo. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:15,720 I know Adam, 4 00:00:15,779 --> 00:00:21,299 I'm doing good man and apologies to every buddy who's been 5 00:00:21,299 --> 00:00:25,499 listening. And that includes all the producers for being a few 6 00:00:25,499 --> 00:00:29,429 days late this week. We just 7 00:00:29,610 --> 00:00:33,810 ran into some real life issues, but we're back on track. Yeah. 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,070 Now. I'm not quite sure we're going to do next week because I 9 00:00:38,100 --> 00:00:42,060 leave for Los Angeles for a couple of days do the Rogen show 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,960 on Monday, so I won't be back until Wednesday. So it may not 11 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,220 be until Friday or Saturday next week until we do it again. Okay, 12 00:00:50,220 --> 00:00:50,280 it 13 00:00:50,279 --> 00:00:51,389 will be on the same cycle it 14 00:00:51,390 --> 00:00:54,360 looks like so Yeah, something like that. It'll shift but you 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,090 know, we're still sticking with I want to and how about it we 16 00:00:57,090 --> 00:00:58,800 get to do it on on Leap Day. 17 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:08,909 No, not Leap Day. Isn't today is Black History bonus? 18 00:01:11,460 --> 00:01:14,970 I should have known Yes. This is a special Black History Month. 19 00:01:14,970 --> 00:01:16,110 Yes. Black we get. 20 00:01:17,580 --> 00:01:22,260 We get one. One more. almost a month. One more day closer to 21 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:27,540 moving on up mo Alma. One of these days you guys will get a 22 00:01:27,540 --> 00:01:30,450 31 day month. I'm telling you just stick with it. 23 00:01:30,810 --> 00:01:31,740 Maybe Maybe. 24 00:01:32,970 --> 00:01:36,540 All right. Lots of clips. lots lots to get to today. Very 25 00:01:36,540 --> 00:01:39,270 excited to hear we're going to do and for that. Of course we 26 00:01:39,270 --> 00:01:43,140 need to roll out the big wheel of clips. Let's see what the 27 00:01:43,140 --> 00:01:47,070 topic will be. We're what are we going to get the Oh, it's 28 00:01:47,070 --> 00:01:51,750 slowing down and what will we get? 29 00:01:51,869 --> 00:01:55,079 What happened to mini Mike? Where's he many Mike has spent a 30 00:01:55,079 --> 00:01:58,229 fortune. There is no buddy I'd rather run again. Then Little 31 00:01:58,230 --> 00:02:02,040 Mike, huh? We're going on political today? I like it. Yes. 32 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:02,970 Okay. 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,000 My Bloomberg, you asked some questions about my Bloomberg on 34 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:06,900 the last show. 35 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,550 Yeah, if he was a viable candidate for for a DDoS. 36 00:02:11,970 --> 00:02:15,450 Right. So I found something that I'm going to cover that but I 37 00:02:15,450 --> 00:02:19,980 found something even more interesting is the billionaire 38 00:02:19,980 --> 00:02:24,090 beef between Donald Trump and Michael Bloomberg. 39 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:29,070 Yes, not discussed very much. The mainstream doesn't like to 40 00:02:29,070 --> 00:02:33,690 show this because that would discredit their possible white 41 00:02:33,690 --> 00:02:37,560 knight. So I'm glad you picked some of 42 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,620 this up. So in this show, what we're going to do is compare and 43 00:02:40,620 --> 00:02:45,420 contrast the two against each other and how the media covers 44 00:02:45,510 --> 00:02:51,240 covers the two in different ways. So I guess we'll just jump 45 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,090 right in with Trump and Bloomberg used to be friends 46 00:02:54,180 --> 00:02:57,150 past President Trump attacks. The Democrats battling fake them 47 00:02:57,150 --> 00:03:00,090 out in November. He's increasingly targeting a fellow 48 00:03:00,090 --> 00:03:03,330 billionaire in New York. former New York Mayor Michael 49 00:03:03,330 --> 00:03:04,110 Bloomberg, 50 00:03:04,260 --> 00:03:07,620 and the former mayor is fighting right back soon as Brian Todd is 51 00:03:07,620 --> 00:03:11,130 here with more of Brian Trump and Bloomberg. They share a very 52 00:03:11,130 --> 00:03:14,190 long history they do share a long history with as Titanic 53 00:03:14,190 --> 00:03:17,040 power players in New York, Donald Trump and Michael 54 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,070 Bloomberg at various times partnered on different projects, 55 00:03:20,070 --> 00:03:23,310 they engaged socially and praise each other for what each had 56 00:03:23,310 --> 00:03:26,040 done for the city. But they split politically when Trump 57 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,590 declared for president and tonight it's clear that Donald 58 00:03:28,590 --> 00:03:33,000 Trump sees Michael Bloomberg as a threat. Lucky's a lightweight, 59 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,820 the way they talk about each other now, you'd think they've 60 00:03:35,820 --> 00:03:36,480 been enemies 61 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,330 for life. I am not afraid of Donald Trump. 62 00:03:39,750 --> 00:03:43,110 But back in New York back in the day, a different dynamic. 63 00:03:43,140 --> 00:03:46,440 And I have to say you have been a great American. You really 64 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:47,550 have I mean, this guy is. 65 00:03:48,660 --> 00:03:52,560 That was in October 2013. Then New York City Mayor Michael 66 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,650 Bloomberg and Donald Trump lavished praise on each other, 67 00:03:55,860 --> 00:03:58,680 after Trump helped Bloomberg convert a trash dump in the 68 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,750 Bronx into a high end golf course. 69 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,560 But if there's anybody that has changed this city, it is Donald 70 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,630 Trump, he really has done an amazing thing. And this is 71 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:08,550 another part of it, Donald, thank you for your confidence. 72 00:04:09,450 --> 00:04:11,880 Analysts say that partnership actually could have been the 73 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,870 genesis of their falling out because in a 2016 interview with 74 00:04:15,870 --> 00:04:18,750 Wolf Blitzer Trump took all the credit for the project. 75 00:04:18,780 --> 00:04:20,970 They took it over and got it knocked up in one year and now 76 00:04:20,970 --> 00:04:23,730 it's a tremendous success. Michael asked me if I'd get 77 00:04:23,730 --> 00:04:24,780 involved in it. Bloomberg 78 00:04:24,780 --> 00:04:26,700 thought that was an exaggeration. His former aides 79 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:29,760 thought that was an exaggeration. And it's sort of 80 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:30,750 split between them. 81 00:04:31,170 --> 00:04:35,130 Oh, man. Oh, don't tell me this is this is just a cockfight. 82 00:04:36,930 --> 00:04:42,090 Being a billion dollar one, so maybe it was a legend, a 83 00:04:42,090 --> 00:04:43,740 billionaire. So, right. You 84 00:04:43,740 --> 00:04:45,600 never know if you listen to 85 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:51,180 the mainstream media, but so what really intrigued me about 86 00:04:51,180 --> 00:04:54,870 this is you have two people that used to be friends. We're not 87 00:04:54,870 --> 00:04:58,740 friends anymore, or were they ever friend were they just using 88 00:04:58,740 --> 00:05:03,510 each other? For what But they could offer each other. So I 89 00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:05,730 think this will be a great matchup 90 00:05:06,779 --> 00:05:13,049 in light of this Bloomberg did a CNN town hall the other day, 91 00:05:13,199 --> 00:05:18,509 which I watched, and, you know, well, I'm just gonna withhold 92 00:05:18,509 --> 00:05:22,439 judgment. Because I, I learned a couple things I didn't know. And 93 00:05:22,439 --> 00:05:25,049 I just saw some things that I hadn't realized earlier. So I'm 94 00:05:25,049 --> 00:05:27,059 very curious to see where you take us in this. 95 00:05:29,010 --> 00:05:31,650 Okay, so I mean, we can just jump into part two. 96 00:05:32,039 --> 00:05:35,189 But before then Donald Trump and Michael Bloomberg appeared to 97 00:05:35,189 --> 00:05:38,699 get along, or at least found each other useful. Trump back 98 00:05:38,699 --> 00:05:41,789 Bloomberg effort to run for a third term as New York's mayor. 99 00:05:42,209 --> 00:05:45,899 They golf together, Bloomberg appeared on Trump's NBC show The 100 00:05:45,899 --> 00:05:49,289 Apprentice, and their daughters appeared in an HBO documentary 101 00:05:49,289 --> 00:05:53,039 called born rich. But analysts say in the real world of New 102 00:05:53,039 --> 00:05:54,599 York Business and philanthropy. 103 00:05:55,079 --> 00:05:58,919 In that world, it was Bloomberg who was the star and it was 104 00:05:58,919 --> 00:06:02,699 Trump who was the one who was always looking for acceptance 105 00:06:02,699 --> 00:06:06,539 and rarely getting it. During all of his life, Donald Trump 106 00:06:06,539 --> 00:06:12,659 has longed for the approval of the New York establishment. Mike 107 00:06:12,659 --> 00:06:15,629 Bloomberg was the New York establishment now 108 00:06:15,660 --> 00:06:18,990 the two are being compared and contrasted under a microscope. 109 00:06:19,589 --> 00:06:23,969 Yeah, that's interesting. I've mentioned many times on no 110 00:06:23,969 --> 00:06:27,539 agenda show that I know this type of guy, this type of guy 111 00:06:27,539 --> 00:06:32,129 that Trump is, who is I've been to a lot of these types of 112 00:06:32,129 --> 00:06:34,229 parties, not so much in New York, but it's the same 113 00:06:34,229 --> 00:06:36,689 everywhere in the world. And you've got the elites, you know, 114 00:06:36,689 --> 00:06:40,649 the old money, the, you know, even show business isn't really 115 00:06:40,649 --> 00:06:44,459 considered part of their part of their circle, but they let the 116 00:06:44,459 --> 00:06:46,919 people in, you know, show business because they're pretty, 117 00:06:47,129 --> 00:06:50,579 and they get attention and they can hang out with him and other 118 00:06:50,579 --> 00:06:53,909 rich people, even if they don't like it and be like, okay, you 119 00:06:53,909 --> 00:06:56,789 know, we'll we'll let them hang out with us. But I don't know if 120 00:06:56,789 --> 00:07:00,089 Trump really wanted that acceptance, most of these guys 121 00:07:00,089 --> 00:07:05,699 that I know. And also some women absolutely crave that acceptance 122 00:07:05,699 --> 00:07:08,159 in those circles, and usually don't get it. So that's just a 123 00:07:08,159 --> 00:07:09,479 personal experience. 124 00:07:10,050 --> 00:07:15,720 And what I find interesting is, Trump came from a affluent 125 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,770 background, you know, rich father, and Bloomberg didn't, 126 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,630 but Bloomberg is more accepted. Yeah, yes. The elites and 127 00:07:24,630 --> 00:07:28,170 you also have to understand the difference. Having lived there 128 00:07:28,290 --> 00:07:31,110 the difference between Manhattan and Queens? I mean, you might as 129 00:07:31,110 --> 00:07:35,400 well have a passport checkpoint, when it comes to how it goes to 130 00:07:35,580 --> 00:07:40,110 area does boroughs are perceived certainly by each other. 131 00:07:41,340 --> 00:07:46,110 Okay, interesting. So, I guess we'll just jump right into on 132 00:07:46,110 --> 00:07:46,740 clip three, 133 00:07:47,459 --> 00:07:51,329 both switched political parties repeatedly, and were unexpected 134 00:07:51,329 --> 00:07:54,239 winners in their biggest elections, and both became 135 00:07:54,239 --> 00:07:57,299 billionaires. Although on the Forbes list of the wealthiest 136 00:07:57,299 --> 00:08:00,479 Americans at the end of last year, Michael Bloomberg ranked 137 00:08:00,509 --> 00:08:06,299 eighth was $53.4 billion, while Trump ranked 275th with 3.1 138 00:08:06,299 --> 00:08:06,689 billion. 139 00:08:07,050 --> 00:08:09,870 They both named their businesses after themselves. They're both 140 00:08:09,870 --> 00:08:12,510 very wealthy people. But Bloomberg came from a more 141 00:08:12,510 --> 00:08:14,880 working class background and Donald Trump, of course, heard a 142 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,600 lot of money from his father to run, run his business. He's 143 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,840 going forward, how nasty and also Arsenal were another battle 144 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:22,410 becomes, 145 00:08:22,500 --> 00:08:26,310 I think in a head to head battle, Mike Bloomberg and 146 00:08:26,310 --> 00:08:30,390 Donald Trump will be nastier than anything we've seen in 147 00:08:30,390 --> 00:08:34,770 politics, perhaps in 100 years. These these are two people who 148 00:08:34,770 --> 00:08:38,310 are not afraid to fight, and they're not afraid to fight in a 149 00:08:38,310 --> 00:08:40,800 very personal way. No, 150 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,390 it's a great time to be alive. 151 00:08:42,900 --> 00:08:45,750 And this is exactly why I want to see this matchup Yeah, of 152 00:08:45,750 --> 00:08:49,890 course, it would be a beauty. Bernie is Trump will be good 153 00:08:49,890 --> 00:08:53,430 too. But this one right here will be great because they will 154 00:08:53,430 --> 00:08:58,290 let the words fly. And I just want to see if you noticed the 155 00:08:58,290 --> 00:09:02,910 media threw some shade at Trump by saying oh, he was number 250 156 00:09:02,910 --> 00:09:06,360 something on the list of billionaires. Is this real? This 157 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,910 real billionaire fake beard and everything. 158 00:09:09,060 --> 00:09:13,650 And they just gonna say these lists are such horse crap. I've 159 00:09:13,650 --> 00:09:17,190 been on these lists back when I actually had a lot of money. And 160 00:09:17,490 --> 00:09:22,500 they would wild in my case wildly overestimate. Oh, curry. 161 00:09:22,500 --> 00:09:27,780 Yeah, he's got probably 200 and 200 million. That's right. 162 00:09:27,780 --> 00:09:32,010 That's why I'm doing podcasts now, everybody. So these lists 163 00:09:32,010 --> 00:09:37,650 are most of the people on the list are usually angry because 164 00:09:38,070 --> 00:09:42,930 their number isn't right. The ranking. I'm not sure how that 165 00:09:42,930 --> 00:09:45,930 plays into people. I think most people just like, oh, yeah, I'm 166 00:09:45,930 --> 00:09:51,930 on the list. Now. It's kind of cool. But now who knows what the 167 00:09:51,930 --> 00:09:52,920 accuracy is. 168 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,120 And the media really wants his matchup because of the amount of 169 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,970 money that was be spent. I know Trump is sitting on a couple of 170 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:05,310 maybe billion Oh yeah, his war chest in. I mean, Bloomberg has 171 00:10:05,310 --> 00:10:09,240 well i I'm hurt up to $53 billion. So dropping a couple 172 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,930 billion dollars out of his own pocket won't be anything so the 173 00:10:12,930 --> 00:10:15,480 media really wants this matchup and they're pushing it. 174 00:10:17,190 --> 00:10:21,990 And just just like the although I really think the Bernie Trump 175 00:10:21,990 --> 00:10:25,440 matchup would be what we need because we need to know are we 176 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,110 socialists, are we capitalist which direction do we want to go 177 00:10:28,110 --> 00:10:32,130 in, but knowing whether you can buy your way into the 178 00:10:32,130 --> 00:10:34,800 presidency, which is clearly what Bloomberg has been doing, 179 00:10:35,010 --> 00:10:36,450 it's also important to know. 180 00:10:40,350 --> 00:10:45,000 It'll be interesting to see how it goes either way. But what we 181 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,880 want to see here, what I want to do today with what the show is, 182 00:10:48,450 --> 00:10:53,130 compare and contrast some of the views, or 183 00:10:55,590 --> 00:10:58,890 whatever. Basically, basically, what we're gonna do here is 184 00:10:58,890 --> 00:11:01,920 we're doing all of the color commentary before the thriller 185 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:09,030 in Manila is that this is, so if it doesn't happen, okay, but 186 00:11:09,030 --> 00:11:12,510 this would be the preamble to this. We are getting ready for 187 00:11:12,510 --> 00:11:15,720 the big pay per view event, ladies and gentlemen. And boy, 188 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,000 these two guys, it would make sense if you had to pay to view 189 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,220 it. But this is what's going on. 190 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,910 And with that said, we have Trump ripping through dems. 191 00:11:24,210 --> 00:11:27,930 And now they have a new member of the crew, mini Mike. Minimum. 192 00:11:28,770 --> 00:11:34,530 No boxes, we call him no boxes. And I hear he's getting pounded 193 00:11:34,530 --> 00:11:42,720 tonight. You know, he's in a debate. pounding him. He spent 194 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:49,140 $500 million so far. And I think he has 15 points. It just came 195 00:11:49,140 --> 00:11:51,600 out he fake news. How many points does he have right now? 196 00:11:51,600 --> 00:12:04,860 50. They won't tell you the truth. They won't tell you the 197 00:12:04,860 --> 00:12:09,690 truth. They just came out with a poll a little while ago. Mini 198 00:12:09,690 --> 00:12:13,860 Mike was at 15. And crazy. Bernie was at 31. That's a lot. 199 00:12:13,950 --> 00:12:17,370 And many Mike just spent $500 million. 200 00:12:21,030 --> 00:12:22,410 A lot of money. 201 00:12:23,340 --> 00:12:27,330 So we got great nicknames here. We got many Mike. Yeah. No, 202 00:12:27,510 --> 00:12:31,020 no boxes. Yeah, 203 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,280 this is why I came. 204 00:12:34,260 --> 00:12:35,670 I'm so down with it Mo. 205 00:12:36,510 --> 00:12:41,400 And we have this is we're a 2020. And this is actual 206 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:45,780 presidential election. This, this is where we're at. We have 207 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,910 two billionaires firing tweets back and forth to each other. 208 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,630 Yeah, it minus the tweets. It's kind of like Russia. 209 00:12:56,580 --> 00:13:00,210 So let's listen to the Bloomberg fire back. 210 00:13:00,450 --> 00:13:02,130 CNN reports Bloomberg has already spent 211 00:13:02,130 --> 00:13:06,600 more than 350 $50 million of his own money. He has a reported net 212 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,020 worth of $60 billion left to play around with one of the 213 00:13:10,020 --> 00:13:12,330 takeaways here and there's a bunch is the shift and black 214 00:13:12,330 --> 00:13:14,820 support among the top three candidates. Biden is losing that 215 00:13:14,820 --> 00:13:18,000 support. While both Sanders and Bloomberg are trending up. 216 00:13:18,150 --> 00:13:21,060 Keep in mind this was a Republican mayor, in a very 217 00:13:21,060 --> 00:13:24,210 democratic city, a Republican mayor who was a Rudy Giuliani 218 00:13:24,210 --> 00:13:28,020 ally, who had gotten into some trouble because his policing 219 00:13:28,050 --> 00:13:31,380 policy stop and frisk had been ruled unconstitutional. How did 220 00:13:31,380 --> 00:13:34,440 he get endorsements from key Democrats in his New York City 221 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,040 races? Well, one thing he would do is that he would donate very 222 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:42,120 generously to keep people you know, to nonprofits, or maybe a 223 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,580 church group that someone who led the church was very 224 00:13:44,580 --> 00:13:47,490 influential. So he was able to curry favor with people who can 225 00:13:47,490 --> 00:13:50,760 then give him very meaningful endorsements. Furthermore, he 226 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,900 could also silence critics after he had transferred his his voter 227 00:13:54,900 --> 00:13:58,440 ID from Republican to independent. The Republican 228 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,510 Party never attacked him after that, for the rest of his 229 00:14:00,510 --> 00:14:02,670 mayoral teen was sort of curious. But then you look at 230 00:14:02,670 --> 00:14:05,490 those financial filings and you see he was giving them millions 231 00:14:05,490 --> 00:14:08,610 of dollars. You've been able to use his money to both curry 232 00:14:08,610 --> 00:14:10,230 support but also silence dissent. 233 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:15,300 I think Mike has the experience. I think that he has the right 234 00:14:15,330 --> 00:14:19,410 values. I think he has the capability to take on what is 235 00:14:19,410 --> 00:14:22,830 just an incredible machine, which is going to be the Trump 236 00:14:22,830 --> 00:14:23,970 reelection campaign. 237 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:31,260 Yes, I hereby issue a cease and desist on the term currying 238 00:14:31,260 --> 00:14:33,660 favor. I'm getting a little annoyed by it. 239 00:14:36,150 --> 00:14:45,000 So Bloomberg, is mysteriously rising. He's rising into 240 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,690 popularity with the black black vote or you know, according to 241 00:14:48,690 --> 00:14:54,690 the according to the pose, which the media do the polls, and he 242 00:14:54,690 --> 00:14:59,280 has a big old pile of billions to spread around so of course 243 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,820 they're going to keep them around. out and just put an 244 00:15:02,820 --> 00:15:05,880 earmark in one thing they brought up in this clip that 245 00:15:06,030 --> 00:15:09,030 stop and frisk, because we're going to revisit that good right 246 00:15:09,030 --> 00:15:11,880 after we listen to fire back to. 247 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,760 Well, this morning he took us attacks Twitter, the President 248 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,360 did posting his altered image of the man he's dubbed mini Mike 249 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,530 and calling him a loser who has money but can't debate and a 250 00:15:22,530 --> 00:15:26,460 five foot four inch mass of dead energy. Bloomberg quickly hit 251 00:15:26,460 --> 00:15:30,390 back swinging at Trump. We know many of the same people in New 252 00:15:30,390 --> 00:15:34,320 York behind your back. They laugh at you and call you a 253 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,490 carnival barking clown. They know you inherited a fortune and 254 00:15:38,490 --> 00:15:41,160 squandered it with stupid deals and incompetence. 255 00:15:42,150 --> 00:15:49,830 That that is even better. As a WWE preview. This is good. So 256 00:15:51,450 --> 00:15:57,060 what Trump Trump is coming at Mike being a petite man. And I 257 00:15:57,060 --> 00:16:01,560 think it gets under Bloomberg skin. But Bloomberg went real 258 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,520 low with by saying, I know the people that we both hang out 259 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:10,110 with the same people they think you're a clown. Yeah. That gets 260 00:16:10,110 --> 00:16:11,490 under Trump's, 261 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:15,629 what do you think? Do you think it does? 262 00:16:17,100 --> 00:16:22,860 I think deep down. Sharp is the Joker because they he wasn't 263 00:16:22,860 --> 00:16:24,000 allowed to be Batman. 264 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,190 Oh, I like that. I'm like that. Yeah, 265 00:16:29,220 --> 00:16:32,520 he he wanted to be Bruce Wayne. And you know, he wanted to be 266 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,810 that, you know, the, you know, that hero type. But he just is 267 00:16:36,810 --> 00:16:39,810 the class thing. Like, I mean, you brought it up yourself with 268 00:16:39,810 --> 00:16:43,590 the queens and I never looked at it as the borough, the borough 269 00:16:43,590 --> 00:16:44,400 lands. But 270 00:16:44,430 --> 00:16:49,380 yeah. I mean, it's just the same as New York and New Jersey. I 271 00:16:49,380 --> 00:16:52,800 mean, we get along, but we're really different people. 272 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,030 And there's a reason for that. And we're gonna, we're doing a 273 00:16:57,030 --> 00:17:00,120 lot of foreshadowing here. But as I promised, we're gonna get 274 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:07,920 back to the stop and frisk. Topic and how Trump viewed it in 275 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,220 the 2016 election. And 276 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,850 when it comes to stop and frisk, you know, you're talking about 277 00:17:14,850 --> 00:17:17,250 taking guns away while I'm talking about taking guns away 278 00:17:17,250 --> 00:17:20,760 from gangs and people that use them. And I don't think I really 279 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,070 don't think you disagree with me on this. If you want to know the 280 00:17:23,070 --> 00:17:25,770 truth. I think maybe there's a political reason why you can't 281 00:17:25,770 --> 00:17:29,130 say it. But I really don't believe in New York City. Stop 282 00:17:29,130 --> 00:17:34,350 and Frisk. We had 2200 murders, and stop and frisk brought it 283 00:17:34,350 --> 00:17:38,370 down to 500. Murders, 500, murders, a lot of murders. Hard 284 00:17:38,370 --> 00:17:42,060 to believe 500 is like supposed to be good. But we went from 285 00:17:42,060 --> 00:17:47,100 2200 to 500. And it was continued on by Mayor Bloomberg. 286 00:17:47,460 --> 00:17:50,820 And it was terminated by current mayor, but stop and fit for us 287 00:17:50,820 --> 00:17:53,910 had a tremendous impact on the safety of New York City. 288 00:17:53,910 --> 00:17:57,690 Tremendous beyond belief. So when you say it has no impact, 289 00:17:57,690 --> 00:18:00,060 it really did. It had a very, very big impact. 290 00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:04,140 How old was this clip? Do you know that was from 2016 to 2016? 291 00:18:04,860 --> 00:18:09,270 This was in 2016. debate against Hillary Clinton. And he was 292 00:18:09,270 --> 00:18:13,380 telling me oh, you even you even might agree with it. But for 293 00:18:13,380 --> 00:18:16,650 political reasons, you can't say that. So I want to make it clear 294 00:18:16,650 --> 00:18:21,930 that Trump is all for stop and frisk, when it comes to find out 295 00:18:22,980 --> 00:18:29,520 that up until now 2019. Bloomberg was also a fan of stop 296 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,060 and frisk. And a journalist journalist is supposed to 297 00:18:33,390 --> 00:18:38,130 Bloomberg is racist. That's the hashtag that's trending on 298 00:18:38,130 --> 00:18:42,510 Twitter. Since audio of remarks made by the 2020 Democratic 299 00:18:42,510 --> 00:18:45,180 presidential hopeful the former New York City Mayor Michael 300 00:18:45,180 --> 00:18:50,100 Bloomberg surfaced earlier this week. In the clip from the 2015 301 00:18:50,100 --> 00:18:53,130 Aspen Institute, Bloomberg is heard defending the New York 302 00:18:53,130 --> 00:18:55,950 City Police Department's controversial stop and frisk 303 00:18:55,950 --> 00:19:01,110 policies, saying quote 95% of murders murdered victims fit one 304 00:19:01,110 --> 00:19:04,800 MO You can just take the description Xerox it pass it out 305 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,740 to all the cops, listen closely. 306 00:19:09,630 --> 00:19:21,210 Murder and murder they are male minorities. 307 00:19:25,470 --> 00:19:29,820 That's Mike Bloomberg saying quote, they are male minority 16 308 00:19:29,820 --> 00:19:32,790 to 25. That's true in New York. That's true in virtually every 309 00:19:32,790 --> 00:19:35,610 city. He went on to say, quote, and the way you get the guns out 310 00:19:35,610 --> 00:19:37,890 of the kid's hands is to throw them up against the walls and 311 00:19:37,890 --> 00:19:41,580 frisk them. Bloomberg issued a statement Tuesday saying quote, 312 00:19:41,610 --> 00:19:45,330 I inherited the police practice of stop and frisk. And as part 313 00:19:45,330 --> 00:19:48,450 of our effort to stop gun violence, it was overused by the 314 00:19:48,450 --> 00:19:51,930 time I left office, I cut it back by 95%. But I should have 315 00:19:51,930 --> 00:19:55,050 done it faster and sooner. I regret that and I have 316 00:19:55,050 --> 00:19:56,760 apologized, unquote. 317 00:19:57,930 --> 00:20:00,360 Yeah, I have some actual numbers on that. don't know if it's 318 00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:02,310 appropriate at this point in your presentation. 319 00:20:03,570 --> 00:20:04,800 I mean, you could share. 320 00:20:05,730 --> 00:20:09,570 This started under Giuliani and it was always called, and I 321 00:20:09,570 --> 00:20:13,470 think it still officially is called Stop question and frisk. 322 00:20:13,470 --> 00:20:19,200 And this all came out in, in a lawsuit, and I believe it was 323 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,890 ultimately the Supreme Court who said it was my worry with these 324 00:20:22,890 --> 00:20:26,700 things, his constitutionality. First, they ran into was not 325 00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:32,070 unconstitutional. But the way it was implemented, could have been 326 00:20:32,340 --> 00:20:35,670 deemed unconstitutional. There's no real question of race in this 327 00:20:35,670 --> 00:20:39,360 case, just leaving that clip aside. But when it started, then 328 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:47,460 I believe they stopped 200,000 people no 100,000 people, and 329 00:20:47,820 --> 00:20:51,660 50,000 had some form of weapon or a prior conviction or a 330 00:20:51,660 --> 00:20:58,140 warrant, etc. And what in under Bloomberg, that went up to 331 00:20:58,140 --> 00:21:06,270 650,000 people, but the amount of of people who actually were 332 00:21:06,810 --> 00:21:10,080 arrested because of the stop question and frisk only went up 333 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:15,150 marginally. So about 10%. So went up about from 50 to 65. 334 00:21:15,420 --> 00:21:19,770 Now, the, the what you need to factor into that is, and you 335 00:21:19,770 --> 00:21:22,770 don't know exactly if that's because of the more that he did 336 00:21:22,770 --> 00:21:26,640 or not, is that indeed the murder rate did have under 337 00:21:26,670 --> 00:21:31,740 Bloomberg versus Giuliani. And as far as I know, the practice 338 00:21:31,770 --> 00:21:35,400 is still in place today, in and in many other cities in the 339 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,330 United States. 340 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:44,220 And you're exactly right with those numbers. But when you look 341 00:21:44,220 --> 00:21:49,650 at it, and how people view Trump and his view on stop, and freeze 342 00:21:49,650 --> 00:21:54,390 versus Bloomberg is like night and day, if they give him a 343 00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:57,390 path, like like, they just say, he apologizes, like you're gonna 344 00:21:57,390 --> 00:22:01,320 hear later, how people just kind of write it off and accept his 345 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,560 apology. But let's get in. Let's actually listen to the 346 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,750 journalist who was supposed to Bloomberg. 347 00:22:07,230 --> 00:22:11,250 But Bloomberg did not just inherit stop and frisk. During 348 00:22:11,250 --> 00:22:16,800 his tenure as mayor. The use of the practice increased seven 349 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,610 fold. During his time in office, the New York Police recorded 350 00:22:20,610 --> 00:22:26,610 over 5 million stop and frisk, the vast majority of those stops 351 00:22:26,610 --> 00:22:30,000 were black and Latino. As mayor of New York, Bloomberg, long 352 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,260 defended stop and frisk. This is Bloomberg speaking during a 2013 353 00:22:34,260 --> 00:22:37,290 interview on wor radio. 354 00:22:38,370 --> 00:22:42,330 They just keep saying, Oh, it's a disproportionate percentage of 355 00:22:42,330 --> 00:22:46,530 a particular ethnic group. That may be but it's not a 356 00:22:46,530 --> 00:22:50,010 disproportionate percentage of those who witnesses and victims 357 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,030 describe as committing or in that case, incidentally, I think 358 00:22:54,030 --> 00:22:58,620 we disproportionately stop whites too much. And minorities 359 00:22:58,620 --> 00:22:59,100 too little. 360 00:22:59,670 --> 00:23:03,990 In fact, 1000s of people marched against stop and frisk during 361 00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:07,170 his three terms in office, Bloomberg defended stop and 362 00:23:07,170 --> 00:23:11,490 frisk as recently as 2019. Only apologizing for the practice 363 00:23:11,490 --> 00:23:14,910 publicly in November, shortly after entering the presidential 364 00:23:14,910 --> 00:23:15,270 race. 365 00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:18,840 Well, yeah, yeah, I can. What is that? 366 00:23:20,010 --> 00:23:25,650 It's see, I can see where well, here's how his and Bloomberg, by 367 00:23:25,650 --> 00:23:28,320 the way doesn't give a shit about anybody. I'm pretty 368 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,220 convinced of it. He's on a whole different plane, a whole 369 00:23:32,220 --> 00:23:36,300 different plane. But he's being in his mind pragmatic. And he's 370 00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:40,290 saying, Well, here's the statistics that we see. Now, of 371 00:23:40,290 --> 00:23:42,990 course, if you're doing stop and frisk in neighborhood where it's 372 00:23:42,990 --> 00:23:46,830 predominantly darker colored skin, because that's really what 373 00:23:46,830 --> 00:23:50,400 we're talking about here. And that's not just a Doss, it's 374 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,060 Latinos, it's all it's all different kinds of darker skin. 375 00:23:54,090 --> 00:23:56,490 That's what I'm saying. Well, that's where they live, if 376 00:23:56,490 --> 00:23:59,580 that's where you're stopping and frisking. I can see how those 377 00:23:59,580 --> 00:24:04,650 numbers pan out. But you're really identifying something we 378 00:24:04,650 --> 00:24:08,880 already knew you're identifying that there's a lot of black on 379 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,740 black crime and cities as a lot of crime in, in poor 380 00:24:13,740 --> 00:24:19,290 neighborhoods. I think personally, in a 10 year tenure, 381 00:24:19,380 --> 00:24:22,080 instead of increasing, you're putting a bandaid on the 382 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,830 problem. And the thinking is, well, if you know you can get 383 00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:28,830 stopped, I mean, thrown against the wall, then you're probably 384 00:24:28,830 --> 00:24:30,840 not going to bring your gun with you when you go out into the 385 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,680 street. Okay, right. But there's other ways to solve this 386 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,640 problem. And I think the lack of imagination is what bothers me 387 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,330 the most. 388 00:24:40,290 --> 00:24:45,390 And it's that Bloomberg is a walking talking algorithm. If 389 00:24:45,390 --> 00:24:47,550 you listen to what he said, he was like, Oh, well, if you just 390 00:24:47,550 --> 00:24:50,700 look at the numbers, were harassing white people too much. 391 00:24:51,660 --> 00:24:55,350 When you harass other people, that doesn't 392 00:24:55,350 --> 00:25:01,020 play that doesn't play very well. For me, algo perspective, 393 00:25:01,020 --> 00:25:04,800 I understand what he's saying. But, again, it's egregious that 394 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,530 he's saying this. And I think this is really this is the 395 00:25:07,530 --> 00:25:11,220 racial issue right here, instead of saying, oh, you know, why 396 00:25:11,220 --> 00:25:14,730 don't we turn around and try some other things to eradicate 397 00:25:14,730 --> 00:25:16,620 poverty in these neighborhoods? 398 00:25:16,890 --> 00:25:21,060 Now, let me be hypothetical for a minute. Let's say, you know, 399 00:25:21,060 --> 00:25:26,160 white guys do a majority of the white collar crime. So we're 400 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,400 just going to break into your financial records without a 401 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,140 warrant, ya know, and poke around and see what we find. And 402 00:25:35,070 --> 00:25:38,580 we're going to target, you know, affluent white men, because 403 00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:42,090 that's who is committing a lot of these crimes. How long would 404 00:25:42,090 --> 00:25:42,690 that stand? 405 00:25:44,370 --> 00:25:47,850 Well, if you if you said it that way, it wouldn't stand at all. 406 00:25:47,850 --> 00:25:50,730 Unfortunately, it's true. You forgot one descriptor, though. 407 00:25:51,090 --> 00:25:54,300 If it's conservative white men, they get new get targeted for 408 00:25:54,300 --> 00:25:58,710 that mainly by the IRS, which is a political weapon. So that but 409 00:25:58,710 --> 00:26:01,140 yes, I understand exactly what you're saying. And of course, is 410 00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:05,190 if the SEC was just standing outside of Wall Street, you 411 00:26:05,190 --> 00:26:08,370 know, banks and say, give me your phone. Oh, you know, I 412 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:08,820 mean, 413 00:26:10,140 --> 00:26:14,790 my analogy works. And you know, how do we go about preventing 414 00:26:14,790 --> 00:26:20,250 this instead of just trying to nail people? So that is the is 415 00:26:20,250 --> 00:26:21,750 the issue with stop and frisk. 416 00:26:22,770 --> 00:26:26,760 But I mean, it's big money, you know, on both sides. 417 00:26:27,540 --> 00:26:30,060 What happened? No, no, no, of course not. Of course not. No. 418 00:26:30,090 --> 00:26:33,060 And, and if you really did that in earnest, then you'd find a 419 00:26:33,060 --> 00:26:35,670 lot of stuff a lot of politicians don't want people to 420 00:26:35,670 --> 00:26:35,970 know. 421 00:26:36,660 --> 00:26:40,290 And the money on the back end, the big money on the back end is 422 00:26:40,290 --> 00:26:44,490 the increase in property value. Yes, because the heavy policing 423 00:26:44,490 --> 00:26:47,190 comes in with the gentrification. Yep, and all. 424 00:26:48,570 --> 00:26:51,720 We're gonna see how all this ties together, but let's get 425 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,590 into clip three. 426 00:26:52,830 --> 00:26:54,870 But for more, we're going to Atlanta, Georgia, where we're 427 00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:57,540 joined by Benjamin Dixon, the host of the Benjamin Dixon show 428 00:26:57,540 --> 00:27:01,380 and podcast, he on Earth and publicize the 2015 audio of 429 00:27:01,380 --> 00:27:04,380 Michael Bloomberg speaking at the Aspen Institute that we just 430 00:27:04,380 --> 00:27:08,760 played for you. Dixon is the co founder of the North star.com, 431 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,060 the revitalized abolitionist newspaper of Frederick Douglass, 432 00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:16,740 it's great to have you with us, Benjamin Dixon, talk about I 433 00:27:16,740 --> 00:27:19,980 mean, it's very clear that the Bloomberg campaign knew that 434 00:27:19,980 --> 00:27:22,800 this was going to drop they knew there was this recording, 435 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,730 however, muffled of his statements at the Aspen 436 00:27:26,730 --> 00:27:30,420 Institute from 2015. And they were ready with a statement, 437 00:27:30,540 --> 00:27:35,130 talk about why you released this, how you found it, and that 438 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,860 and what Bloomberg has said in response. 439 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,960 Yes, thanks for having me, Amy. It was online, it was hiding in 440 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,160 plain sight. I've read several articles about this speech. And 441 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,830 what drew my attention to it was the fact that they were looking 442 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,130 that Bloomberg team actually requested that the video from 443 00:27:53,130 --> 00:27:57,300 the Aspen Institute not be released at the Aspen Institute 444 00:27:57,330 --> 00:28:00,390 acquiesced they did not release the video. But I was hoping to 445 00:28:00,390 --> 00:28:03,360 be able to find at least a an audio clip. And that's exactly 446 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,720 what I found. It had been online for five years, I was able to 447 00:28:06,780 --> 00:28:10,470 isolate it, cut it up and make it a little more audible. And I 448 00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:13,140 felt that it just carried a significant impact that the 449 00:28:13,140 --> 00:28:15,990 words in the article did not I felt like people needed to hear 450 00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:17,670 his voice say these things. 451 00:28:17,940 --> 00:28:19,680 Thank God for podcasters 452 00:28:22,140 --> 00:28:27,360 it took a podcast now we have all these huge news rooms and 453 00:28:27,630 --> 00:28:32,520 they're, you know, it's amazing. Stop and Frisk. I mean, they 454 00:28:32,730 --> 00:28:35,760 Donald Trump anything, they could go find it. Talk to 455 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,590 anybody, but it's a it's on YouTube for five years. And none 456 00:28:40,590 --> 00:28:43,530 of your big publication, you know, publications picked it up, 457 00:28:43,710 --> 00:28:46,740 nor the Trump campaign. I'm sure they didn't want to touch it, 458 00:28:46,770 --> 00:28:49,620 seeing considering his endorsement of it in the past. 459 00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:53,580 Well, Trump has an interesting view on that, and we'll hear 460 00:28:53,580 --> 00:28:54,420 that and click for 461 00:28:54,929 --> 00:29:01,769 and on Tuesday morning, President Trump tweeted, wow, 462 00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:06,179 Bloomberg is a total racist. This was in response to the 463 00:29:06,179 --> 00:29:10,949 video, the audio you released. Wow. Bloomberg is a total 464 00:29:10,949 --> 00:29:16,019 racist. Trump later deleted the post. Interestingly, while 465 00:29:16,019 --> 00:29:20,549 campaigning for president in 2016, Trump called for stop and 466 00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:22,949 frisk to be instituted nationwide. 467 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,450 Right. Right. Yeah. The level of hypocrisy that comes from the 468 00:29:27,450 --> 00:29:30,780 President isn't surprising. But that's really that exemplifies 469 00:29:30,780 --> 00:29:33,270 the weakness that candidates like Michael Bloomberg will have 470 00:29:33,270 --> 00:29:36,090 against Donald Trump. His audience has no problem with the 471 00:29:36,090 --> 00:29:39,150 fact that he is a racist, but he will call someone else a racist. 472 00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:41,790 Michael Bloomberg has put himself in a position where he 473 00:29:41,790 --> 00:29:45,000 has a long standing history of problems in New York City, 474 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,880 particularly with stop and frisk. And so the President will 475 00:29:47,910 --> 00:29:50,970 stand on the debate stage and call him a racist when the rest 476 00:29:50,970 --> 00:29:53,310 of America knows that he's the white supremacist and chief. 477 00:29:53,340 --> 00:29:57,090 So there you go. That's takes a blogger to know that too, I 478 00:29:57,090 --> 00:29:57,480 guess. 479 00:29:58,950 --> 00:30:03,180 So Trump's the white supremacist in chief. Yes, but Bloomberg 480 00:30:03,180 --> 00:30:08,070 just has probably not a white supremacist. 481 00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:11,490 Whereas it was it's one thing for Trump to say, hey, here are 482 00:30:11,490 --> 00:30:13,860 the numbers, look at what happened murder rate went down. 483 00:30:14,010 --> 00:30:17,280 It's a little different to say, hey, you can just copy the 484 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,890 profile and throw them against the wall. I think there's a 485 00:30:19,890 --> 00:30:23,430 little more racist undertones in Bloomberg is a description. 486 00:30:23,790 --> 00:30:27,420 And you inherit it from Jr. Giuliani and you ratchet it up, 487 00:30:27,450 --> 00:30:34,650 you know, 660 600% or something like 500%. Right. So I mean, it 488 00:30:34,650 --> 00:30:39,240 wasn't bad. He's like, Oh, yeah. Hold my beer. Giuliani. Let me 489 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,100 show you how to stop. Yeah. But then it's also hilarious. But 490 00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:48,660 Trump to gaslight and say, Hey, blue bars are racist for 491 00:30:49,290 --> 00:30:53,640 supporting stopping freeze. My mind is this. 492 00:30:53,940 --> 00:30:57,210 Is this. Is this a topic? Is this something that the eight of 493 00:30:57,210 --> 00:31:01,170 us is talking about about this? Or is it your sharp mind which 494 00:31:01,170 --> 00:31:03,510 you have that you pick up on this? 495 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:11,730 Well, no. Okay, the no vote. Eight is foundational black 496 00:31:11,730 --> 00:31:14,430 native black crowd, though people are saying we're not 497 00:31:14,430 --> 00:31:17,850 going to vote unless we get some something tangible. That crowd 498 00:31:17,850 --> 00:31:21,270 is calling out their hypocrisy from the mainstream media. 499 00:31:22,410 --> 00:31:25,020 The hypocrisy that they're not sure 500 00:31:25,439 --> 00:31:29,249 how they cover one and why you know, whitewash the others. 501 00:31:30,899 --> 00:31:35,939 Sins. Got it. And all Bloomberg has to do is apologize. 502 00:31:36,660 --> 00:31:39,660 Well, yeah, he's Michael Bloomberg. He's got $60 billion 503 00:31:40,140 --> 00:31:41,340 that matters in America. 504 00:31:42,540 --> 00:31:44,700 Well, let's listen to him apologize. 505 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,180 We begin tonight with that stop and frisk apology from New York 506 00:31:48,180 --> 00:31:51,180 City's former Mayor Michael Bloomberg. He made the comments 507 00:31:51,180 --> 00:31:53,940 during a service at a Brooklyn church today. Many are now 508 00:31:53,940 --> 00:31:57,510 saying the apology is quote, long overdue. TV tentative 509 00:31:57,510 --> 00:31:59,520 designs. Hazel Sanchez has the story. 510 00:32:00,090 --> 00:32:05,250 I can't change history. However, today, I want you to know that I 511 00:32:05,250 --> 00:32:09,570 realized back then I was wrong. And I'm sorry. 512 00:32:09,780 --> 00:32:12,900 On Sunday morning, former Mayor Mike Bloomberg stood before the 513 00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:16,350 Christian Cultural Center in Brooklyn, and apologized for the 514 00:32:16,350 --> 00:32:19,950 stop and frisk policy he long supported while he ran New York 515 00:32:19,950 --> 00:32:23,370 City. Now that he's making a run for the White House. Many New 516 00:32:23,370 --> 00:32:26,760 Yorkers are doubting his apology is sincere. Do you think it's 517 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:33,030 sincere? about trying to get votes. It's real convenient. 518 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,410 That's what it looks like. 519 00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:38,460 I got something important, really wrong. I didn't 520 00:32:38,460 --> 00:32:42,210 understand that back then the full impact that stops were 521 00:32:42,210 --> 00:32:45,960 having on the black and Latino communities. I was totally 522 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:51,120 focused on saving lives. But as we know, good intentions aren't 523 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,380 good enough. 524 00:32:52,980 --> 00:32:56,880 Man, I hope you have the clip where Bloomberg says, Well, I 525 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,970 have black friends and they tell me that this was no good. 526 00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:06,000 I don't I don't have that clue. But it's amazing. However, I 527 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:13,410 didn't realize, gee, storing harassing people citizens moving 528 00:33:13,410 --> 00:33:16,530 freely inside of a city? Yeah, I didn't realize that it was gonna 529 00:33:16,530 --> 00:33:17,220 be a problem. Here 530 00:33:17,220 --> 00:33:17,880 it is. Here it is. 531 00:33:17,970 --> 00:33:21,300 And I know a lot of black people that if they were white, it 532 00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:22,740 would have been a lot easier for them. 533 00:33:23,310 --> 00:33:26,250 Something when I was thinking of it, stuff like that, like, Oh, I 534 00:33:26,250 --> 00:33:29,550 know a lot of black people. Well, you didn't know before, 535 00:33:29,580 --> 00:33:32,940 Mike, that you black people didn't say Hey, this is fucked 536 00:33:32,940 --> 00:33:33,900 up, Mike. No. 537 00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:39,450 No. Well, for one reason. Even after his apology, there's 538 00:33:39,450 --> 00:33:43,110 always somebody that willing to get the butter biscuits. Yeah. 539 00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:46,530 Yes, apology to 540 00:33:47,010 --> 00:33:50,430 Brooklyn Borough President and former NYPD officer Eric Adams, 541 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,960 met with Bloomberg today 542 00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:55,590 when my crews I believe sincerely felt as though they 543 00:33:55,590 --> 00:34:00,510 made a grave mistake. years ago in the implementation of stop 544 00:34:00,510 --> 00:34:04,500 and frisk. I accept his apology. I believe that the question now 545 00:34:04,530 --> 00:34:08,070 becomes how do we move forward? What do we do now after that 546 00:34:08,070 --> 00:34:09,420 acknowledgement? Well, who 547 00:34:09,420 --> 00:34:10,110 was this? 548 00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:17,520 That is the president of the Brooklyn Borough police. You 549 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,400 give me the play the first like 10 seconds they'll give his 550 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,030 title again. 551 00:34:21,060 --> 00:34:22,650 Yeah, just want to hear that. Okay. 552 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,430 Brooklyn Borough President and former NYPD officer Eric Adams, 553 00:34:26,820 --> 00:34:32,340 Brooklyn Borough President, okay. Yeah, but 554 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:38,250 you got $60 billion $50 billion. You, Man, you know how big it 555 00:34:38,250 --> 00:34:42,150 had played is a butter biscuits. I mean, you can you can buy 556 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,220 whoever you want. Yes, 557 00:34:44,220 --> 00:34:45,300 I do, actually. 558 00:34:45,930 --> 00:34:51,210 And notice how quiet everybody really and it's not even. And 559 00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:54,270 when I say butter biscuits, that's not even a racial thing. 560 00:34:54,510 --> 00:34:59,970 Because you notice how MSNBC, CNN, they're kind of like oh, 561 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,320 Yeah, he apologized. 562 00:35:01,470 --> 00:35:04,440 Explain to explain the butter biscuits again. Okay. 563 00:35:05,850 --> 00:35:09,900 So what this is is, is typically used towards black people by 564 00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:13,290 other black people to say when somebody says something No, it's 565 00:35:13,290 --> 00:35:21,090 not true, but it gains them financially or in some cloud or 566 00:35:21,210 --> 00:35:27,360 affluence. They they'll go out and be bought off and the 567 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:32,370 currency that they're bought off in is butter biscuits. Just the 568 00:35:32,370 --> 00:35:33,750 split just a little bit 569 00:35:33,780 --> 00:35:36,780 it's like Bitcoin only tastier. Right? 570 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:44,850 Oh, only butter here. So, of course Trump couldn't let this 571 00:35:44,850 --> 00:35:48,330 apology slide by and he had to say it was disingenuous 572 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,110 to say, Mr. President, you took on Michael Bloomberg and Brad 573 00:35:52,110 --> 00:35:56,340 parscale did as well over stop and frisk in 2016. And 2018. You 574 00:35:56,340 --> 00:35:59,250 praised Rudy Giuliani for the stop and frisk program. So 575 00:35:59,250 --> 00:36:02,100 what's different about what Bloomberg said, from what you 576 00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:05,700 believe that? When I looked at it, and I watched him pander 577 00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:08,700 under church and practically beg for forgiveness, I wouldn't have 578 00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:11,190 begged for forgiveness. I mean, he was doing his job at the 579 00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:14,760 time. And then he, when he went up to the church, I thought it 580 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,140 was disgraceful. Do you support that policy? And is it as you 581 00:36:19,140 --> 00:36:22,740 said, in a tweet, to get down crime and to get rid of drugs, 582 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,980 but I think when a man is with stop and frisk his whole life, 583 00:36:26,220 --> 00:36:29,370 and then he decides to go Democrat, and he goes to a 584 00:36:29,370 --> 00:36:32,280 church, and he's practically crying, it looked like hell, 585 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,700 he's practically crying, saying how what a horrible thing he 586 00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:39,180 did. I think it's so disingenuous, you know what I'm 587 00:36:39,180 --> 00:36:43,170 talking about those that was so of lumber. Look, he's a 588 00:36:43,170 --> 00:36:45,990 lightweight, he's a lightweight, you're gonna find that out. 589 00:36:48,780 --> 00:36:54,510 So this is this, I think this is why Trump gets respect for at 590 00:36:54,510 --> 00:36:58,320 least doubling down on what you believe, right? Even though I 591 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,960 don't agree with it. Stopping phrase was a terrible thing. It 592 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:06,240 was basically my point of view, a form of martial law, because 593 00:37:07,290 --> 00:37:10,950 when you can't move freely in your own community, 594 00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:14,160 that's a problem. Yeah, it's, of course, 595 00:37:14,850 --> 00:37:20,400 that's a huge problem. But we have to understand the black 596 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,930 Boulais was on board with these things with the crime bill with 597 00:37:24,930 --> 00:37:33,660 the stop and frisk, they are on board because they looked at it 598 00:37:33,660 --> 00:37:37,590 like, oh, we need to do something to keep our place. 599 00:37:37,620 --> 00:37:40,680 Because, you know, when we had this all stems from the problem 600 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,990 with the drugs and crack era in the 80s, right, you know, it was 601 00:37:46,020 --> 00:37:48,840 basically go back to 70s, really, with the heroin 602 00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:53,340 epidemic. But I mean, these communities became basically 603 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,940 drug drugs zones and war zones with the with the guns and 604 00:37:59,940 --> 00:38:00,360 drugs. 605 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,600 Are you saying the Boulais would like to have it continue 606 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,630 contained? Is that what I'm hearing you say? 607 00:38:06,930 --> 00:38:10,140 Well, what is how it worked? The citizens would go to the 608 00:38:10,140 --> 00:38:14,250 Boulais. A representative in their community, you know, the 609 00:38:14,250 --> 00:38:16,770 mayor, aldermen, whoever they are, yes. 610 00:38:18,180 --> 00:38:19,320 Eric Adams, yeah, you, 611 00:38:19,620 --> 00:38:22,350 you need to clean the streets up. Let's say this is what say, 612 00:38:22,350 --> 00:38:25,680 you know, my kids can't play. And instead of being Hackman 613 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,340 sophisticated, they just went and said to people like 614 00:38:29,340 --> 00:38:33,420 Bloomberg Giuliani and whoever else, you need to crack down. 615 00:38:34,740 --> 00:38:38,130 They crack down. But the problem is, the police didn't 616 00:38:38,130 --> 00:38:42,960 distinguish between a kid and isn't kid walking down the 617 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,500 street with a hoodie, hoodie, hoodie hoodie on and an actual 618 00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:49,380 criminal, right? It was like, we're just we're just doing it 619 00:38:49,380 --> 00:38:53,190 by the numbers. You know, you look as Giuliani said. I mean, 620 00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:56,160 I'm not Giuliani, but Bloomberg said you could just, you could 621 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,610 Xerox the picture and it meant, you know, it would just like if 622 00:38:59,610 --> 00:39:03,180 you fit the description, if you're black or brown, within 623 00:39:03,180 --> 00:39:08,220 you know, 15 to maybe 30 You are more likely going to be a 624 00:39:08,220 --> 00:39:12,540 criminal. They didn't do any policing from the top down is 625 00:39:12,540 --> 00:39:15,510 taking down the kingpins they always. They Exactly. 626 00:39:15,810 --> 00:39:19,470 No, no other majors identifying the problem. This was this was 627 00:39:19,470 --> 00:39:23,010 the it's the the Belgian screwdriver. You know, it's like 628 00:39:23,010 --> 00:39:25,650 she's bashing away with a screwdriver at the problem. 629 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,230 Right, so let's get back into listen to Trump call Bloomberg 630 00:39:31,230 --> 00:39:32,100 disingenuous. 631 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,210 He's also one of the worst debaters I've ever seen. And his 632 00:39:36,210 --> 00:39:40,170 presence is zero. So he'll spend his three, four or $500 million. 633 00:39:40,770 --> 00:39:44,730 Maybe they will take it away. Frankly, I'd rather run against 634 00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:48,330 Bloomberg than Bernie Sanders. Because Sanders has real 635 00:39:48,330 --> 00:39:51,120 followers, whether you like him or not, whether you agree with 636 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,960 him or not. I happen to think it's terrible what he says. But 637 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,590 he has followers. Bloomberg is buying his way in, but we're 638 00:39:58,590 --> 00:40:01,410 gonna find out what happens We're gonna find out. But when 639 00:40:01,410 --> 00:40:04,290 you watch go back to the church where he apologized for 640 00:40:04,290 --> 00:40:06,990 everything he ever did practically. And he looked 641 00:40:06,990 --> 00:40:10,260 pathetic. Our country doesn't need that kind of leadership. 642 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,570 Yeah, yes. 643 00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:17,819 I too would like to see this Bloomberg, I agree with you, 644 00:40:17,819 --> 00:40:23,939 Trump. I want to see the Bloomberg Trump battle. But just 645 00:40:23,939 --> 00:40:29,879 to give a little context, to what a stop and frisk 646 00:40:30,449 --> 00:40:36,659 interaction will look like, between cops and young men in 647 00:40:36,689 --> 00:40:40,919 those neighborhoods. I felt this documentary called the hunted 648 00:40:40,979 --> 00:40:46,679 and the hated the inside look at the NYPD, NYPD stop and frisk 649 00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:51,689 policy. And that was directed by Ross Tuttle 650 00:40:52,050 --> 00:40:55,350 walking home from my girlfriend's house in a Costco 651 00:40:55,350 --> 00:40:58,200 and passed me a couple of seconds later I heard the call 652 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,680 center around and they just popped out it just jumped out 653 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,460 the car. I decided to record it because I was getting stopped a 654 00:41:05,460 --> 00:41:09,060 lot and I didn't have evidence of copy and disrespectful and so 655 00:41:09,270 --> 00:41:11,490 I'll put the button and record the whole thing 656 00:41:13,830 --> 00:41:19,260 you just got stopped by to black soil. Very suspicious because 657 00:41:19,260 --> 00:41:21,870 I've always written I'm crazy you keep looking back at us 658 00:41:21,870 --> 00:41:25,140 because you always always looking crazy. Oh come to the 659 00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:35,100 blog. Always our job our jobs love it. You keep that as always 660 00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:37,830 like started I just got stopped like two blocks away because you 661 00:41:37,830 --> 00:41:40,140 keep doing that shit. Man. We stopped last time because listen 662 00:41:40,140 --> 00:41:42,780 to me. When you walk in the block, which you put up and you 663 00:41:42,780 --> 00:41:49,740 keep looking back at us like they do that. It was cold smack. 664 00:41:50,460 --> 00:41:53,160 smack me. Don't you see you in the Smash? Yes. No, you asked 665 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:58,290 me why I'm talking to you. That's why you think you're Oh, 666 00:41:58,290 --> 00:42:00,570 why? Why are you touching me for 667 00:42:01,380 --> 00:42:03,480 man? That's because he's wearing a hoodie. 668 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,820 Yeah, walking out the block with a book bag. 669 00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:10,620 Yeah, and that's 670 00:42:10,620 --> 00:42:17,670 the reason why I played this is this is the Mo Yeah, if you're 671 00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:22,800 brown, brown, I mean any shade of brown. wearing a hoodie and 672 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,480 walking up the block with a book bag? 673 00:42:24,510 --> 00:42:26,970 Yeah, bad you fit the MO very bad. 674 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:33,210 How many kids go to school like that every day. And I want to I 675 00:42:33,210 --> 00:42:37,320 just want to shed light on this. I understand that something 676 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:42,660 needs to be done for the crime. But these people are geniuses 677 00:42:42,660 --> 00:42:48,030 Bloomberg is a genius. And the best you can do is just like 678 00:42:48,060 --> 00:42:49,410 harass people. 679 00:42:50,190 --> 00:42:54,450 Well even worse it starts off with the cop saying that you 680 00:42:54,450 --> 00:42:57,630 were looking at us said yeah because you're standing there 681 00:42:57,630 --> 00:43:00,270 menacing and I mean I think anyone knows that if we were 682 00:43:00,270 --> 00:43:03,660 being pulled over I was pulled over just recently and the first 683 00:43:03,660 --> 00:43:06,870 thing I said is like hey man, you got to really ride my ass so 684 00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:08,910 you know if you're pulling me over for speeding I don't know 685 00:43:08,910 --> 00:43:11,250 when I was speeding but I didn't like it and you know I pulled 686 00:43:11,250 --> 00:43:15,240 over into the right hand lane. And it can be intimidating to 687 00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:22,110 anybody of any age. It used to be different but yeah and then 688 00:43:22,140 --> 00:43:24,600 and then to say well it's because you were why you wear 689 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,500 your hoodie that's wrong man so wrong. 690 00:43:29,460 --> 00:43:32,550 So let's let's do the second clip in this interaction 691 00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:35,820 who's holding me is going to pack is going up down? Did you 692 00:43:35,820 --> 00:43:38,400 go into my sweater then that's when that's when he told me keep 693 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,680 my hands on my head so I was like this stole time 694 00:43:41,340 --> 00:43:46,410 want to go to jail? Shut fucking mouth now and I'm getting 695 00:43:46,410 --> 00:43:48,060 arrested for being a fucking mud 696 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:58,230 in the mud you he decided to take my hair from him and put it 697 00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:58,950 behind my back 698 00:44:02,970 --> 00:44:07,140 Shut your fucking mouth you asked me questions and explore 699 00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:16,950 one point I was in no reason you want somebody to take a break 700 00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:22,410 and what was your father? Got a phone where traffic? Your 701 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:22,980 traffic? 702 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,230 Don't touch me. Okay, he's 703 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,080 Yeah, yeah, and this key is the son of a cop. 704 00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:40,320 Yeah, traffic copter doesn't count. 705 00:44:42,930 --> 00:44:44,430 Traffic I'm not the same thing. 706 00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:49,230 Wow. How's that work? Well, the things that you were you were 707 00:44:49,230 --> 00:44:52,740 exploring so I think I mean, everything floors. I think he's 708 00:44:52,740 --> 00:44:58,590 like the kid. He's a kid police program. Oh, okay. Exponent 709 00:44:58,590 --> 00:45:02,910 mistake. So I mean I like this guy. This kid is anti cop. It's 710 00:45:02,910 --> 00:45:06,180 just I mean, you've been harassed. I mean, just the 711 00:45:06,180 --> 00:45:10,320 freedom of movement. Man, that's That's wrong. That's wrong. I 712 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,200 just I don't I don't agree with that and the irks me. 713 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,520 It's yeah, the police explorers career oriented program gives 714 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,890 young adults the opportunity to explore a career in law 715 00:45:19,890 --> 00:45:23,130 enforcement by working with local law enforcement agencies. 716 00:45:23,370 --> 00:45:26,790 Do we know what happened to these officers who, who treated 717 00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:27,420 him this way? 718 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,430 I think he filed a complaint against them. But I don't think 719 00:45:32,490 --> 00:45:35,760 I don't know I didn't finish the documentary. I just want to 720 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,770 catch more than interaction. Just so people can hear. You 721 00:45:40,770 --> 00:45:46,890 have a son of a police officer walk into his community. He 722 00:45:46,890 --> 00:45:50,850 would work he wanted obviously explored the potential to be a 723 00:45:50,850 --> 00:45:55,710 police officer himself. And then you want I mean, you call him a 724 00:45:55,710 --> 00:46:03,330 mutt. And you know, what it is what it is, my problem is when 725 00:46:03,330 --> 00:46:10,620 you have these people condemn one side being Trump and give 726 00:46:10,620 --> 00:46:13,590 the other side of path because he apologized and the other guy 727 00:46:13,590 --> 00:46:18,030 was the actual one instituting the policy or ratcheting up the 728 00:46:18,030 --> 00:46:19,350 policy. And that's 729 00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:23,730 real rude and condoning it, you know that there were plenty of 730 00:46:23,730 --> 00:46:27,120 complaints. I mean, this, this was news. I mean, I was in New 731 00:46:27,420 --> 00:46:30,330 York, this was news people knew about this, it was a lot of talk 732 00:46:30,330 --> 00:46:30,870 about it. 733 00:46:31,770 --> 00:46:35,730 And he supported it all the way up to 2019. He doesn't want to 734 00:46:35,730 --> 00:46:38,160 speech came from the hate speech. So it was like just say 735 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,240 you're sorry. It's easy. Alright, so but we're gonna 736 00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:47,250 listen to one of our favorite contributors Miss Carrie Hunter 737 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,620 and Bloomberg stop and frisk problem. 738 00:46:51,690 --> 00:46:56,040 2015 All right. Now, since running, I think Bloomberg 739 00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:01,200 apologized. Do we accept his apology? Go ahead, play his 740 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,520 apology. I was wrong. And I'm sorry. Oh, that's a real 741 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,810 apology. I'm making a juxtaposition because Snoop 742 00:47:09,810 --> 00:47:15,120 didn't apologize anyway. 8668 Petty, and just by doing that, 743 00:47:15,150 --> 00:47:19,500 you know, that method which started under Giuliani, which he 744 00:47:19,500 --> 00:47:23,910 continued with the cops, that's Ray Kelly, put a lot of black 745 00:47:23,940 --> 00:47:27,300 lives in harm, create a lot of trauma. There were more black 746 00:47:27,330 --> 00:47:30,810 boys in particular, black men stopped and fixed in their ex 747 00:47:30,810 --> 00:47:33,090 existed in the city of New York. And there's a lot of black 748 00:47:33,090 --> 00:47:37,590 people in New York, the largest black city city in America. And 749 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,540 yeah, it was painful. Does the apology cover it? I mean, I 750 00:47:42,540 --> 00:47:44,940 think he was sincere in his apology for a number of reasons. 751 00:47:44,940 --> 00:47:47,430 Yes, he's running for president. He needs the black vote to to 752 00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:51,000 win. But I think that you know, just like his Greenwood 753 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,030 initiative that he put out after he found out about Tulsa, yeah, 754 00:47:54,060 --> 00:47:57,780 last year, which is baffling to me that you can live in a 755 00:47:57,780 --> 00:47:59,820 country and not know. 756 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,240 Where'd you hear this? 757 00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:08,730 Where was where was Reverend owl all these years? I mean, I know 758 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:13,080 New York. This is his backyard. You just want to make sure let 759 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:18,270 me see. 2012 Rev. Owl takes Newark, NYPD stop and frisk law 760 00:48:18,270 --> 00:48:23,340 to task with upcoming silent march. So then I'm sure that 761 00:48:23,370 --> 00:48:26,940 Bloomberg paid him in the went away as rev al does. 762 00:48:27,660 --> 00:48:31,200 As I said in the previous clip he saw on it you know he's done 763 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,790 it says he's he's naysayers. Well, you got that kind of cash. 764 00:48:35,790 --> 00:48:39,300 I mean, what are you gonna do? But did you hear how she's like, 765 00:48:39,330 --> 00:48:43,110 oh, yeah, he apologized and that we accept it. You know, he he 766 00:48:43,110 --> 00:48:46,020 wants to be president. He needs the black vote so it must be 767 00:48:46,020 --> 00:48:50,280 sincere. How does that logic work? That will make it 768 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,240 insincere. 769 00:48:53,550 --> 00:48:57,480 Here we go. Reverend Al Sharpton. This is from 2010 770 00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:00,180 Finally disagree with Mayor Bloomberg a week ago on how to 771 00:49:00,180 --> 00:49:06,300 change elections in the city. See, okay. Sharpness National 772 00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:10,530 Action Network out of $110,000 grant from a brand new nonprofit 773 00:49:10,530 --> 00:49:14,460 funded by Bloomberg. Just want to make sure we stay on top of 774 00:49:14,460 --> 00:49:17,790 that. Jumoke don't like him. 775 00:49:18,450 --> 00:49:24,210 Damn. He's one of the most powerful men and in in this 776 00:49:24,210 --> 00:49:28,170 game. Oh, yeah. And when he gets in there in a race game, yeah. 777 00:49:29,850 --> 00:49:34,620 But let's continue to listen to, I guess, Karen Hunter, Bloomberg 778 00:49:34,620 --> 00:49:35,280 topology. 779 00:49:35,580 --> 00:49:37,590 That's why we have to be informed. That's why I go so 780 00:49:37,590 --> 00:49:43,110 hard to paint. So my question is, number one, people running 781 00:49:43,110 --> 00:49:46,830 for president. They're going to need the black vote to win on 782 00:49:46,830 --> 00:49:49,500 the Democratic side and Trump is baffled by why he doesn't have 783 00:49:49,500 --> 00:49:53,190 more black supporter because you're racist, sir. Listen, it 784 00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:55,290 doesn't matter how many programs you do, how many black people 785 00:49:55,290 --> 00:49:57,960 you let out of jail. If you legalize marijuana. At your 786 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,000 core, you hate black people, and I think if you had the option 787 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,280 tunity to get rid of all black people, and I'm talking about 788 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,620 Mexicans, anybody with any melanin? Anybody from any 789 00:50:04,620 --> 00:50:07,260 country that speaks any language other than English. I think you 790 00:50:07,260 --> 00:50:09,570 would wave a wand and get rid of us. That's fucking 791 00:50:09,570 --> 00:50:14,850 unhinged this woman. Is these horrible. Oh, my God woman. 792 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,680 Oh, my knee. Yeah. You said about Al Sharpton Come on now. 793 00:50:21,150 --> 00:50:24,000 We're talking about Bloomberg and stopping freeze. All of a 794 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,140 sudden you accept his apology, but he's not a racist. And he 795 00:50:28,140 --> 00:50:31,620 you say it doesn't matter how many black people you let out of 796 00:50:31,620 --> 00:50:36,090 jail. That doesn't tell him for it. But Bloomberg is apology 797 00:50:36,090 --> 00:50:38,520 atones for HIV actually lock in black people look. 798 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:47,730 Like, I'm 22 in some way. 799 00:50:49,950 --> 00:50:53,550 2020 We know its vision, you know, clear vision. Oh, yeah. 800 00:50:53,550 --> 00:51:00,030 Nice. 20 election is going to clarify and crystallize a lot of 801 00:51:00,030 --> 00:51:05,580 things. We're seeing size being drawn, we've seen things being 802 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,050 brought to the light. When you have this kind of money, people 803 00:51:10,050 --> 00:51:13,710 are going to be exposed. And I'm gonna be bored. 804 00:51:14,490 --> 00:51:17,700 Always for it. Of course, always for 805 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,280 these two men had the same as views. They come from the same 806 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,090 exact places. They have the same exact privilege as you see it. 807 00:51:27,930 --> 00:51:35,910 But you do this weird. A Jedi mind trick or however you want 808 00:51:35,910 --> 00:51:39,450 to look at it. Well, this guy is a racist to the core. But this 809 00:51:39,450 --> 00:51:42,030 other guy can be accepted because he apologized. How does 810 00:51:42,030 --> 00:51:46,380 that work? Yeah, please tell me how to 811 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:51,870 well, I'm trying to find where. Okay, so she's co authored 812 00:51:51,870 --> 00:51:55,230 books, Karen hunter with Al Sharpton. That says enough right 813 00:51:55,230 --> 00:51:55,530 there. 814 00:51:56,700 --> 00:51:57,690 Oh, yeah. 815 00:51:59,340 --> 00:52:04,260 She's tied in. Yeah. And I want to say this other thing. I want 816 00:52:04,260 --> 00:52:07,410 to make sure I understand the term meal you correctly. This is 817 00:52:07,410 --> 00:52:12,510 a small just a small aside. But I think I spotted one. Okay, 818 00:52:12,660 --> 00:52:16,950 between her. Stephen A Smith, a Charlemagne to God. 819 00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:24,360 Okay, so Milio is your social environment. Fancy as French 820 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:29,970 word for it. And you can detect millio by the way people dress 821 00:52:29,970 --> 00:52:33,660 the way people talk. Even certain acts. That's usually 822 00:52:33,660 --> 00:52:37,170 where Devora Can I pick it up is how people speak. 823 00:52:37,649 --> 00:52:42,269 Because the way they speak and know that know that. Stephen A 824 00:52:42,269 --> 00:52:48,719 Smith and a shaman gotta from the south. But they may not 825 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,089 really know he still makes me from New York, Charlemagne to 826 00:52:51,089 --> 00:52:53,729 God from the south, but they have this unique way of talking. 827 00:52:53,969 --> 00:52:57,449 And I know that I was like, she sounds like somebody but just 828 00:52:57,449 --> 00:53:00,599 just pay attention to it next time you hear, okay? Well, cuz I 829 00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:06,059 think they run in the same circle as well. But let's just 830 00:53:06,059 --> 00:53:08,609 listen to Problem three. But I 831 00:53:08,610 --> 00:53:13,560 had, I had a meeting today with a person who's not black, and 832 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,720 we're talking about loans and this and that, and we're going 833 00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:19,080 over my finances. And I said, Yeah, I had this loan, you know, 834 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,570 subprime loan, even though I had great credit, a great job and 835 00:53:21,570 --> 00:53:24,510 everything. She was like why? I said, because the banks were 836 00:53:24,510 --> 00:53:28,080 predatory towards black people. And I said, You didn't hurt if I 837 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,570 hadn't heard of that. And so then we went through another 838 00:53:30,570 --> 00:53:34,380 thing. I said, Yeah, I had another loan too. And it I could 839 00:53:34,380 --> 00:53:39,360 see her catch her breath. Like, just because you're black. You 840 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,720 got to battle. I said, Yes. Yeah. Isn't it amazing? We're 841 00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:45,300 not in the streets and burning stuff down. Like, isn't it 842 00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:48,600 amazing that we're we're relatively well adjusted, 843 00:53:48,660 --> 00:53:52,290 considering all of the obstacles and I said, if I didn't have 844 00:53:52,290 --> 00:53:55,440 anything to compare it to, I wouldn't know that this was 845 00:53:55,470 --> 00:53:58,440 targeting. And if if the Wells Fargo thing in the in the 846 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,960 housing bubble hadn't happened, we wouldn't have known that 847 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,900 there was a willful targeting of black people. But what did that 848 00:54:03,900 --> 00:54:07,740 do that impacted the wealth of black people for centuries? 849 00:54:07,740 --> 00:54:10,590 Yeah, probably, that created a wealth gap that's going to take 850 00:54:10,590 --> 00:54:14,940 200 plus years to close, because people excuse me, financial 851 00:54:14,940 --> 00:54:17,520 institutions willfully came after black people and gave them 852 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,670 bad loans. I said I had a piggyback loan on a house that I 853 00:54:20,670 --> 00:54:24,630 didn't have shouldn't have had a piggyback loan. And I talked to 854 00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:27,300 a bunch of my black friends and they all had pity. 855 00:54:27,870 --> 00:54:29,520 Yeah. Why? 856 00:54:31,050 --> 00:54:36,000 I'm not sure I agree with what she's saying here. Saying you 857 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,470 have a subprime loan is not a loan that is targeted towards 858 00:54:40,470 --> 00:54:45,480 anybody except people who are stupid and or are lying. And 859 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,690 that's what happened. So it was predatory that people said, you 860 00:54:48,690 --> 00:54:52,320 can't afford this, but I'm gonna give it to you anyway. I put a 861 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,780 lot of that on the people taking the loan. 862 00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:03,060 I agree with you, but In two things, one, she was talking 863 00:55:03,060 --> 00:55:05,790 about stop and frisk. This is from the same clip at the stop 864 00:55:05,790 --> 00:55:11,070 of free shs. And she does is weird pivot. I don't know if 865 00:55:11,070 --> 00:55:13,950 it's the case of the truth wanting to come out. But she 866 00:55:13,950 --> 00:55:19,230 starts talking about subprime loans. And I'm like, what? How 867 00:55:19,230 --> 00:55:22,530 did her brain make that connection to go from stopping 868 00:55:22,530 --> 00:55:28,800 free to? to subprime loans? I do agree with that. We've got to 869 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:29,490 find out. 870 00:55:30,270 --> 00:55:32,010 Oh, well, but 871 00:55:34,110 --> 00:55:38,310 it's amazing that I agree with you. 872 00:55:38,370 --> 00:55:42,120 Well, hold on, hold on, let me back up for a second, she starts 873 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,870 to clip off by saying I was had a meeting with a white person. 874 00:55:46,380 --> 00:55:50,490 Right, which immediately it was like, okay, so I use it in some 875 00:55:50,490 --> 00:55:53,520 kind of boundary, I'm not quite sure. But I guess it was a 876 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,570 financial person. And by the way, going over numbers, the way 877 00:55:57,570 --> 00:56:01,260 she twisted this is that the white people took advantage of 878 00:56:01,260 --> 00:56:04,530 the black people by screwing up the economy with loans and never 879 00:56:04,530 --> 00:56:06,930 should have given anybody and a lot of white people who got 880 00:56:06,930 --> 00:56:10,260 those loans, probably more than black people. But somehow that 881 00:56:10,260 --> 00:56:13,080 to me was a very racially charged the thing she was 882 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,740 saying. And I can agree with her premise. 883 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,870 And the problem is, she's conflating two things. Yes. One 884 00:56:21,900 --> 00:56:26,550 One, a lot of people, smart people, because she's smart. She 885 00:56:26,550 --> 00:56:31,710 took a bad loan out herself. And a lot of her smart friends did 886 00:56:31,740 --> 00:56:36,750 yeah, they took out loans they couldn't afford. But there is 887 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:44,580 systematic. Discrimination in the banking process. And I'm 888 00:56:44,580 --> 00:56:47,670 going to prove that later, but I'm sure that she flakes, these 889 00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:54,090 two things and properly, and it probably conflicts them may 890 00:56:54,090 --> 00:56:57,960 serve an argument invalid, certainly weakens. Yeah, that's 891 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,630 the problem. It makes it it makes it you know, if you want 892 00:57:00,630 --> 00:57:04,050 to talk about, but I'm gonna explain to you why I think her 893 00:57:04,050 --> 00:57:07,950 brain did that weird pivot with Bloomberg, Barclays minorities 894 00:57:07,950 --> 00:57:09,810 for the 2008 market crash 895 00:57:10,140 --> 00:57:13,740 of all the things you could be wrong about being wrong about 896 00:57:13,740 --> 00:57:15,780 the Iraq war is probably the most important. But I think 897 00:57:15,780 --> 00:57:19,080 maybe a second is being fundamentally wrong about how we 898 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:23,040 ended up in the worst economic collapse of our lifetimes. And 899 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,160 Mike Bloomberg, who he's wrong, watch 900 00:57:26,580 --> 00:57:29,760 some reference to the elements that led to where we are today. 901 00:57:30,510 --> 00:57:32,400 Could you go a little bit deeper? And tell us from your 902 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,340 perspective, how did we get here? What are the root causes, 903 00:57:36,180 --> 00:57:40,740 you can go back, I would say it probably all started back when 904 00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:44,700 there was a lot of pressure on banks to make loans to everyone. 905 00:57:46,620 --> 00:57:50,400 Redlining, if you remember, was the term where banks took Whole 906 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:54,030 neighborhoods and said, people in these neighborhoods are poor, 907 00:57:54,030 --> 00:57:56,580 they're not going to be able to pay off their mortgages, tell 908 00:57:56,580 --> 00:57:59,970 them what your salesmen don't go into those areas. And then 909 00:57:59,970 --> 00:58:03,510 Congress got involved as local elected officials as well and 910 00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:06,390 said, Oh, that's not fair, these people should be able to get 911 00:58:06,390 --> 00:58:10,080 credit. And once you started pushing in that direction, banks 912 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,160 started making more and more loans, where the credit of the 913 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:19,080 person buying the house wasn't as good as you would like. Now, 914 00:58:19,350 --> 00:58:23,730 it's not so bad, when the market for houses keeps going up. 915 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,970 Because the nice thing about making a mortgage loan is it's 916 00:58:26,970 --> 00:58:32,160 very secure. After all, if the, if the borrower defaults, you 917 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,700 simply sell the house and you have something that's worth more 918 00:58:35,940 --> 00:58:38,880 than the value of the mortgage. And that assumes that real 919 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,150 estate prices never go down. And we just discovered that they 920 00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:48,690 could get some very interesting logic here. Redlining, which, of 921 00:58:48,690 --> 00:58:53,460 course, is a talking point, is generally seen to be as very, 922 00:58:53,460 --> 00:58:57,690 very bad and racist. In this case, the redlining in fact, was 923 00:58:57,690 --> 00:59:02,400 protecting these, these neighborhoods from predatory 924 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,760 bank lending, but as Bloomberg himself said, but then the local 925 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,690 officials, I would presume that his administration got in and 926 00:59:09,690 --> 00:59:12,510 said, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you gotta Hey, you can't 927 00:59:12,690 --> 00:59:16,530 it's racist to just screw YT that let's get everybody 928 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,960 and that's the thing they only open it up when it has something 929 00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:27,840 toxic to sell to the red lock community, but red line and 930 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,960 we're gonna get to the history of redlining because it is it 931 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:31,590 goes deep. 932 00:59:31,620 --> 00:59:33,480 Yeah, a lot of people don't really know what the hell 933 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,940 they're talking about with redlining. But the fact 934 00:59:35,940 --> 00:59:39,480 that he takes this and those that term around, as you know, 935 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:44,610 like you say, it was keeping it was a good thing. And that's why 936 00:59:44,610 --> 00:59:47,490 I say her brain made that weird jump, you're talking about 937 00:59:47,490 --> 00:59:51,300 Bloomberg, stop, freeze, and then you do this weird pivot 938 00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:55,320 into predatory lending. So I believe she knew about this. I'm 939 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,640 just speculating This is 100% speculation, but just how did 940 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,030 you borrow Hey, make that weird. I was having a conversation with 941 01:00:03,030 --> 01:00:06,030 somebody about money without my stomach freeze? 942 01:00:06,270 --> 01:00:08,850 Well, you're in the middle, yo. And there you go. You're in the 943 01:00:08,850 --> 01:00:12,090 middle. You have white rich people, I guess. 944 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:18,960 So. So that's, well, we know blue is the same meal you, oh, 945 01:00:19,350 --> 01:00:22,560 we know who shot man, the guy runs with Yeah, 946 01:00:22,590 --> 01:00:25,170 with, with white hedge fund guys. 947 01:00:26,310 --> 01:00:33,300 Exactly. I'm just saying, maybe, you know, they run the same 948 01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:37,800 circles. But let's listen to market crash, too. So 949 01:00:38,460 --> 01:00:43,590 while there was like systemic racism in how loans were given 950 01:00:43,590 --> 01:00:46,410 out who was given loans, who had access to areas to buy houses, 951 01:00:46,590 --> 01:00:50,340 interest rates, all that, and there was an effort to try to 952 01:00:50,340 --> 01:00:53,190 solve that just a little bit. And look at what you get when 953 01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:57,150 you solve that you crash the economy yet dummies? That was 954 01:00:57,150 --> 01:01:00,780 what he offered up. It wasn't like they gave that as a theory. 955 01:01:00,780 --> 01:01:04,170 And he talked about it for a bit. That was his core response 956 01:01:04,170 --> 01:01:06,540 on why did the economy fall apart? 957 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:13,890 He just did a pro redlining talk there. That's unbelievable. 2008 958 01:01:14,490 --> 01:01:19,920 Yeah, that wasn't like 1978 and corn pump would come into the 959 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:28,050 pool. 2008 redlining is specifically on it is a racist 960 01:01:28,050 --> 01:01:33,210 policy. That's like saying while I mean, there's a value in this, 961 01:01:33,210 --> 01:01:37,470 like literally defending segregation, literally, and say, 962 01:01:37,470 --> 01:01:40,620 Oh, we're gonna deny people, loads of certain areas because 963 01:01:40,620 --> 01:01:45,720 they're black. And he's saying, Well, that was a good old days. 964 01:01:46,020 --> 01:01:49,170 And when we stopped systematically discriminating 965 01:01:49,170 --> 01:01:52,680 against blacks and Latinos, it was those blacks and Latinos 966 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,730 being irresponsible that caused the collapse. Wow, okay, look, 967 01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,570 other than being deeply, deeply immoral, it's also deeply, 968 01:02:00,570 --> 01:02:04,920 deeply wrong. So and there's a good reason why Bloomberg is 969 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,120 wrong on purpose. 970 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,200 Oh, on purpose, okay. 971 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,390 Yes, we're gonna find out why he's wrong on purpose. But 972 01:02:12,390 --> 01:02:17,730 let's, let's unpack some of the things that he said. This is 973 01:02:17,730 --> 01:02:23,490 2008. When Bloomberg is talking. You're they're unaware that 974 01:02:23,490 --> 01:02:27,120 redlining is seen to be as a bad thing 975 01:02:28,380 --> 01:02:33,240 to discuss, this goes back to the 60s, man, this is a guy is 976 01:02:33,450 --> 01:02:34,830 not on this earth. 977 01:02:35,700 --> 01:02:39,030 Right. I think you'll even back to the 40s, if I'm not mistaken 978 01:02:39,030 --> 01:02:41,250 with the New Deal. 979 01:02:43,980 --> 01:02:45,810 The New Deal? You're right, you're right. 980 01:02:46,470 --> 01:02:49,890 And that's why you had to have the equal was equal housing 981 01:02:49,890 --> 01:02:53,820 lenders or whatever it is. That that was a correction of the 982 01:02:53,820 --> 01:02:56,580 redlining. And these are real historical facts. And we're 983 01:02:56,580 --> 01:02:59,580 gonna say, yeah, yeah, it was a good thing. The other thing, 984 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:06,060 this go to show, we get blamed for everything, with 30% of the 985 01:03:06,060 --> 01:03:07,500 population probably 986 01:03:07,530 --> 01:03:12,180 Damn, you ruined everything 987 01:03:13,170 --> 01:03:16,650 of the GDP. And it's like, oh, yeah, we start giving black 988 01:03:16,650 --> 01:03:21,180 people loans. That's the Hallmark. Now we get blood. You 989 01:03:21,180 --> 01:03:22,680 can't make this stuff up. That is 990 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,040 one of the most I mean, that's, that's pretty egregious what he 991 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,430 was saying, there. That's that, man. Okay, 992 01:03:29,550 --> 01:03:32,490 we didn't design anything. We didn't pass any bills. We didn't 993 01:03:32,490 --> 01:03:38,280 lose any regulations. Yeah. And, and I know people out there 994 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,730 saying, Well, why would you take a loan? You know, you can't pay 995 01:03:41,730 --> 01:03:45,060 for where if the game is, you know, beginning on this low 996 01:03:45,060 --> 01:03:48,990 interest rate, and the house goes up? Interest rate goes up? 997 01:03:49,170 --> 01:03:51,900 Yes. Flipping? Yeah. I mean, they have TV shows about this. 998 01:03:51,900 --> 01:03:54,930 Your white people do it all the time. I don't understand what, 999 01:03:55,410 --> 01:04:00,660 when, when suppressed group of people are given opportunity. 1000 01:04:01,380 --> 01:04:06,420 And I say that we were allowed, because due to how red line 1001 01:04:06,420 --> 01:04:10,620 work? Look, I'm I'm gonna pause right there. Let's just get into 1002 01:04:10,620 --> 01:04:11,340 crash. Three. 1003 01:04:11,700 --> 01:04:18,420 Why? Because they had removed protections on leverage. So the 1004 01:04:18,420 --> 01:04:22,740 banks could make wild bed sometimes put $1 down, but make 1005 01:04:22,740 --> 01:04:25,980 $100 bed. So when you lose the dollar, all of a sudden, you're 1006 01:04:25,980 --> 01:04:29,430 not losing $1 You're losing $100 Which you don't have in the 1007 01:04:29,430 --> 01:04:33,330 bank. And you did that by betting on these collateralized 1008 01:04:33,330 --> 01:04:37,260 debt obligations and, and the and the derivative packages, et 1009 01:04:37,260 --> 01:04:40,290 cetera. So I tell you all of that, because there is a real 1010 01:04:40,290 --> 01:04:44,640 answer as to why we had the collapse. And and the bankers 1011 01:04:44,670 --> 01:04:48,330 first pumped all that out into the market. Why? Because they 1012 01:04:48,330 --> 01:04:51,810 were like making money off of it. Like oh, go by, oh, we got a 1013 01:04:51,810 --> 01:04:55,290 great mortgage for you. They're handing them out like candy, 1014 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,840 right? Oh, they would say oftentimes, you don't even have 1015 01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:02,670 to worry about filling it out. But it was irresponsible blacks 1016 01:05:02,670 --> 01:05:07,170 and Latinos who are at fault. No, the bankers told them. I 1017 01:05:07,170 --> 01:05:10,230 don't care if you have a job, I don't care if you fill out the 1018 01:05:10,230 --> 01:05:13,170 information a lot of times, because we're not like the money 1019 01:05:13,170 --> 01:05:15,720 we make on this mortgage, it's good and fine, but we're making 1020 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:19,980 the real money on the derivative bet. Okay, so just go, go, go 1021 01:05:19,980 --> 01:05:22,320 go. And you're handing him out handing him out. Meanwhile, the 1022 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,720 entire time they're making commission. And they're 1023 01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,870 collecting all of that, and they took it home and bonuses and 1024 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:32,130 giant, giant bonuses on those giant giant beds. 1025 01:05:32,670 --> 01:05:38,040 Is that chunk chunk from Young Turks? Yeah. Good explanation, 1026 01:05:38,130 --> 01:05:39,540 as I think it did that well. 1027 01:05:40,830 --> 01:05:45,960 So now we understand why, or how the loans were made, and who was 1028 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,920 making the loans and how they've been why the banks push, giving 1029 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,950 loans to people that they know, because you look at it from both 1030 01:05:52,950 --> 01:05:58,110 sides, the coin one, I'm a person, if a person comes to me 1031 01:05:58,110 --> 01:06:03,090 and I have bad credit and wants to borrow $100, I'm gonna say 1032 01:06:03,090 --> 01:06:07,170 no, man, I'm not gonna give you that hurt at all, because not 1033 01:06:07,170 --> 01:06:11,730 likelihood to get back. So not only can put it on the ball, but 1034 01:06:11,730 --> 01:06:14,100 also the lender because you got to protect your investment. But 1035 01:06:14,100 --> 01:06:17,820 if you're making short term gains off of just the action of 1036 01:06:17,820 --> 01:06:22,170 loaning the money, they're self serving, of course. So I just 1037 01:06:22,170 --> 01:06:26,880 want to point that out. So now, to be fair, to be unbiased as we 1038 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:31,560 are here on this podcast. Trump had his own issues with housing 1039 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:32,370 discrimination, 1040 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:37,440 14,000 apartments and 39 different buildings, all mostly 1041 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,650 white tenants. That is until the Department of Justice took 1042 01:06:40,650 --> 01:06:45,090 notice in 1973 and slammed Donald Trump and his father Fred 1043 01:06:45,090 --> 01:06:48,300 Trump with a lawsuit. Trump management was charged with 1044 01:06:48,300 --> 01:06:51,900 discriminating against African Americans and breaking federal 1045 01:06:51,900 --> 01:06:56,490 law. Donald Trump then just 27 was president of the company. 1046 01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,400 The Department of Justice accused the Trump's of violating 1047 01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,670 the Fair Housing Act arguing they were turning away renters 1048 01:07:02,670 --> 01:07:06,360 based on race and color who tipped them off. local activists 1049 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,780 so called testers posing as potential renters at Trump's 1050 01:07:09,780 --> 01:07:13,890 buildings, mainly in Brooklyn and Queens. Elise Gould Weber 1051 01:07:13,890 --> 01:07:17,640 was a lawyer for the DOJ Fair Housing section at the time, and 1052 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,830 was called on to handle the Trump case, 1053 01:07:19,919 --> 01:07:23,819 when the black testers came, they were shocked. They they may 1054 01:07:23,819 --> 01:07:27,479 have been shown apartments are told nothing was available. 1055 01:07:27,749 --> 01:07:31,649 Whereas when the white testers came, yes, there were things 1056 01:07:31,649 --> 01:07:34,619 that were available, that would be the norm. And if 1057 01:07:34,620 --> 01:07:37,980 the Trumps did rent to a black person gold, whoever recalls, 1058 01:07:38,190 --> 01:07:41,880 they would do so only at one building in Brooklyn, reserving 1059 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,070 the other buildings for white tenants 1060 01:07:44,250 --> 01:07:49,110 that the white people would live in Trump village and the people 1061 01:07:49,110 --> 01:07:52,140 of color would live in 1062 01:07:52,169 --> 01:07:55,559 Flatbush, and according to the Justice Department, they even 1063 01:07:55,559 --> 01:07:59,969 had a secret coding system to do it a racial code. Here's how 1064 01:08:00,090 --> 01:08:01,710 sounds pretty racist to me. 1065 01:08:02,430 --> 01:08:08,670 So, and this was brought up all throughout 2015 2016 Oh, yeah. 1066 01:08:09,270 --> 01:08:14,310 Trump. I even had a clip and it was unclimbable. But Rachel 1067 01:08:14,310 --> 01:08:17,730 Maddow, she was chasing down this dude who used to work for 1068 01:08:17,730 --> 01:08:22,830 Fred Trump. And she was like, Fred Trump used the N word when 1069 01:08:22,830 --> 01:08:25,200 talking about running to black people, and Donald Trump was in 1070 01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,800 the room. So I mean, they went, you know, it's no stone 1071 01:08:29,310 --> 01:08:29,940 unturned. You 1072 01:08:29,940 --> 01:08:34,320 know, what's interesting is, of course, you know, doing what I 1073 01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:37,050 do. I of course, I know of this issue, have discussed it on no 1074 01:08:37,050 --> 01:08:42,450 agenda. I don't think I've ever heard that detail about the the 1075 01:08:42,450 --> 01:08:45,090 testers. I think that's the first I've heard of it. 1076 01:08:45,539 --> 01:08:49,889 They had testers, and then they had this super sophisticated way 1077 01:08:49,889 --> 01:08:55,379 of identifying black renters. Here's how 1078 01:08:55,499 --> 01:08:59,099 some of the applications were marked with the C, which we 1079 01:08:59,099 --> 01:09:04,559 learned that it meant colored. The prospective tenants who had 1080 01:09:04,559 --> 01:09:08,009 come in or noted to be colored. 1081 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:11,790 Yes, you heard her right. The Department of Justice alleged 1082 01:09:11,790 --> 01:09:15,180 application submitted by prospective African American 1083 01:09:15,180 --> 01:09:19,410 renters were designated with a secret code such as C for 1084 01:09:19,410 --> 01:09:23,160 colored to indicate a black person was looking to rent. In 1085 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,490 true Trump fashion Donald Trump hit back calling the 1086 01:09:26,490 --> 01:09:30,060 government's accusations absolutely ridiculous and 1087 01:09:30,060 --> 01:09:33,420 telling the court I have never nor has anyone in my 1088 01:09:33,420 --> 01:09:37,110 organization ever, to the best of my knowledge, discriminated 1089 01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:40,980 or shown bias in the renting of our apartments. Trump's lawyer 1090 01:09:40,980 --> 01:09:43,830 said the government's suit failed to give names addresses 1091 01:09:43,830 --> 01:09:47,010 or specific incidences of discrimination, claiming the 1092 01:09:47,010 --> 01:09:49,830 lawsuit caused substantial damage to their business and 1093 01:09:49,830 --> 01:09:53,880 reputation. Trump took the most unusual step of suing the 1094 01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,450 Justice Department for defamation, seeking $100 million 1095 01:09:57,930 --> 01:10:01,830 in damages, but that countersue was tossed out by the judge. 1096 01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,130 Even so the Trump family maintained they never 1097 01:10:05,130 --> 01:10:09,000 discriminated based on color, but were instead trying to avoid 1098 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:13,860 renting to people on welfare. Two years later, in 1975, Trump 1099 01:10:13,860 --> 01:10:17,220 and his father settled the case agreeing not to discriminate 1100 01:10:17,220 --> 01:10:20,250 against anyone. They also promised to advertise in 1101 01:10:20,250 --> 01:10:23,280 publications aimed at minorities, familiarize 1102 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:27,120 themselves with the details of the Fair Housing Act and notify 1103 01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,600 civil rights groups of apartment vacancies. The Department of 1104 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,200 Justice claimed victory, but the Trump's never admitted any 1105 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:38,520 wrongdoing, reportedly noting the settlement was in no way an 1106 01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,230 admission of a violation. 1107 01:10:43,380 --> 01:10:49,590 So this is why I met. I don't agree with discrimination. But 1108 01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:53,250 at least I know when I'm dealing with this, here's my problem. 1109 01:10:54,330 --> 01:10:59,340 People want to deal with people that's gonna lie to him. If I 1110 01:10:59,340 --> 01:11:02,370 know where you stand, and I know how to deal with you, and that's 1111 01:11:02,370 --> 01:11:06,870 why I said, for my group of people, we need to stand back 1112 01:11:06,870 --> 01:11:09,300 and see who has something tangible for us because the 1113 01:11:09,330 --> 01:11:12,720 equal amount you said, on both sides, and whoever had the most 1114 01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,770 part to provide of as far as standard with stamps now it's 1115 01:11:16,770 --> 01:11:22,710 10. Tangible standpoint, then we we support I'm when I vote, and 1116 01:11:22,710 --> 01:11:26,010 if nothing comes, then we don't vote, because it means it means 1117 01:11:26,010 --> 01:11:31,170 two sides of the same coin. But the people that are supposed to 1118 01:11:31,170 --> 01:11:38,010 be our leaders will put on this shout dog and pony show, to make 1119 01:11:38,010 --> 01:11:39,810 it seem like there's a difference and they really not. 1120 01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:45,060 Right, right. Okay. When you say when you say leaders that that 1121 01:11:45,060 --> 01:11:47,640 goes down the line. I mean, it's not just president, but that's 1122 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:51,360 local. Clearly, it's local, quote unquote, officials and, 1123 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,540 and Al Sharpton is to yeah, 1124 01:11:54,540 --> 01:12:03,720 all of me when I say leader, and Tom. The clergy, the media, the 1125 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:08,040 politicians, all of them. They're even not I'm not only 1126 01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,040 talking about black hair either. So we have Kerr Hunter. We have 1127 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:14,760 Bloomberg. May not Bloomberg, excuse me, young Turks. If 1128 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:19,170 Bloomberg happens to be the candidate for Democrats, they're 1129 01:12:19,170 --> 01:12:20,340 still going to carry the water. 1130 01:12:20,579 --> 01:12:22,589 Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I 1131 01:12:22,590 --> 01:12:23,400 mean, this is 1132 01:12:23,699 --> 01:12:28,709 you're looking at the at the differences here, between how 1133 01:12:28,739 --> 01:12:36,179 how each racial episode for each of the candidates is handled by 1134 01:12:36,179 --> 01:12:36,719 the media. 1135 01:12:37,470 --> 01:12:42,480 Right. So you're not we're not this is a litmus test. And then 1136 01:12:42,990 --> 01:12:46,710 the standard is not the same, right? If the standard is a god 1137 01:12:46,710 --> 01:12:51,690 support, stop and frisk, he's a no, he's a hard No. Then both of 1138 01:12:51,690 --> 01:12:57,330 them had to be a hard no. Right? Is no unfair housing practices, 1139 01:12:57,540 --> 01:13:00,420 supporting a redlining or housing discrimination? If 1140 01:13:00,420 --> 01:13:04,200 that's it? They participate in that it's a hard No, it needs to 1141 01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,140 be a hard no for both. But when I'm doing it, it's going to show 1142 01:13:07,140 --> 01:13:12,690 you how when you juxtapose these two people against each other, 1143 01:13:13,620 --> 01:13:18,780 you see the hypocrisy. I'm here to point out the hypocrisy. And 1144 01:13:18,780 --> 01:13:23,640 also validate the claims of redlining and stop and frisk 1145 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:28,680 because they are real. But people you say, you know, some 1146 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,130 people say, Oh, no, it's a piggy ranch nation, or that was long 1147 01:13:32,130 --> 01:13:40,050 in the past. But I would like to take a short pause here. We lost 1148 01:13:40,050 --> 01:13:45,480 one of our historical celebrities Miss Jeanette 1149 01:13:45,570 --> 01:13:50,490 Dubois, and she played willona on Good Times. I know people 1150 01:13:50,490 --> 01:13:52,920 were saying, How, what's the connection with that? I mean, 1151 01:13:52,920 --> 01:14:00,000 it's kind of hard, right? Well, she wrote a popular song for 1152 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,390 one, a popular show the Jeffersons. I talked 1153 01:14:03,390 --> 01:14:07,710 to my mom in New York last time. I think I blew it. I think I 1154 01:14:07,710 --> 01:14:14,040 just I don't know if I can do what I told Norman I could do. 1155 01:14:14,070 --> 01:14:20,220 She said, always had said this to me. You can do it. I said, 1156 01:14:21,150 --> 01:14:24,240 but I don't know what to write about. She said what is your 1157 01:14:24,270 --> 01:14:28,470 what was your dream or your life? My dream was to get my 1158 01:14:28,470 --> 01:14:34,170 mother from working. Put it retire by a car Virgos move away 1159 01:14:34,170 --> 01:14:38,640 from Brooklyn ghetto. Ferris Jeep, Leesburg well lived. That 1160 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:42,000 was a dream. See you living in Brooklyn yet? The east side west 1161 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:46,350 side. I want to do to the east. I got the idea. I want to move 1162 01:14:46,350 --> 01:14:48,720 to the east. And I still wish on one of these days, ma'am. I'm 1163 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,300 gonna I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna do this. I'm going to do 1164 01:14:51,300 --> 01:14:54,390 that and then do this. This was this is what everybody's always 1165 01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:57,030 saying to me since you were a little girl. Even when you 1166 01:14:57,030 --> 01:15:00,990 stuttered. You said. I said I was going Make a difference. I 1167 01:15:00,990 --> 01:15:03,300 was gonna change your life, I was gonna move you out of here. 1168 01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:11,100 Write that. wrote that brought it in. And I looked at it and he 1169 01:15:11,100 --> 01:15:18,690 said, Who told you about the story? Because no one told me 1170 01:15:18,690 --> 01:15:22,560 about stories. How do you know these things that you move into 1171 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,470 the Sidon? And all this stuff about penthouse blah, blah, 1172 01:15:25,470 --> 01:15:29,130 blah. And I said, Well, that's personal. I said, but that's the 1173 01:15:29,130 --> 01:15:31,980 song. That's the promise. I kept saying it's the promise. 1174 01:15:32,730 --> 01:15:34,620 Limit. And she wrote the song. 1175 01:15:36,420 --> 01:15:38,190 Yeah, good. Yeah. Jefferson is moving on. Oh, 1176 01:15:38,249 --> 01:15:40,019 I didn't know. I didn't know she wrote that. 1177 01:15:40,770 --> 01:15:44,280 And I didn't. That's why I brought to the show, one to show 1178 01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:51,000 her respect, and rest and peace. But to she didn't even know what 1179 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,760 the show was gonna be about. And not a reason why I brought this 1180 01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,180 up. And I find interesting is she didn't know what the show 1181 01:15:57,180 --> 01:16:03,630 was going to be about. But it's so common, shared, moving out of 1182 01:16:03,630 --> 01:16:08,490 this Oh, press area to something better. This is a shared notion, 1183 01:16:08,490 --> 01:16:12,840 especially ownership. And then now when you ask, why would 1184 01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:17,910 people take a subprime loan? Why would people take a you know, 1185 01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:23,070 something that they don't even understand, because it's one of 1186 01:16:23,070 --> 01:16:26,880 you inside baseball time, is one of few things that you can do as 1187 01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,660 a black person and feel like you really made it. One, graduate 1188 01:16:30,660 --> 01:16:35,040 high school to graduate college or any higher and higher 1189 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:40,200 learning. Three on your own business and four is buying a 1190 01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,980 home. And that's where you really feel the American 1191 01:16:43,980 --> 01:16:46,530 dream. Interesting that owning you're owning your own 1192 01:16:46,530 --> 01:16:49,860 businesses in that list. I'm not sure that owning your own 1193 01:16:49,860 --> 01:16:53,370 business is a white thing in America as on the on the top 1194 01:16:53,370 --> 01:16:53,850 four. 1195 01:16:55,079 --> 01:16:58,349 Because it's in the pit, you feel like, Oh, I'm independent. 1196 01:16:58,349 --> 01:17:02,669 And the same thing with home ownership. I own it. It's mine, 1197 01:17:02,699 --> 01:17:05,219 you know, this is my, you know, it goes back really 1198 01:17:05,219 --> 01:17:08,339 psychological. I think back to back, you know, the founding 1199 01:17:08,339 --> 01:17:11,219 fathers and where you couldn't even vote unless you were a land 1200 01:17:11,249 --> 01:17:17,129 owner, right. Subconsciously is you know, so I wanted to share 1201 01:17:17,129 --> 01:17:21,239 her story because she wrote the song from a place of, I'm with 1202 01:17:21,239 --> 01:17:24,869 mom, I'm gonna take you out this, these red zones. Yeah, I'm 1203 01:17:24,869 --> 01:17:28,049 gonna take God these red zones, I'm gonna move you know, moving 1204 01:17:28,049 --> 01:17:34,379 on up. And I would just like to share for her and her life, her 1205 01:17:34,379 --> 01:17:35,549 song one more time. 1206 01:18:17,310 --> 01:18:42,360 With that forever moving special tribute here on more facts with 1207 01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:47,100 Adam curry for Black History Month, bonus day, Jana Dubois 1208 01:18:47,100 --> 01:18:52,590 and moving on up. And I'm glad you did that Mo. And I'm glad 1209 01:18:52,590 --> 01:18:55,410 you didn't even know this. I didn't know that she wrote the 1210 01:18:55,410 --> 01:19:01,140 song. I know that she passed away February 17. Yep, should be 1211 01:19:01,140 --> 01:19:03,480 shot should be celebrated. And I think that's an appropriate 1212 01:19:03,480 --> 01:19:08,340 celebration of her. We're gonna take a quick little break here. 1213 01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:12,210 As you know, we consider everybody who participates in 1214 01:19:12,210 --> 01:19:15,540 this conversation and you do participate and you're gonna see 1215 01:19:15,570 --> 01:19:18,390 the minute with people sending in notes, your producers, 1216 01:19:18,690 --> 01:19:23,010 producers are what is needed for any good production. This is not 1217 01:19:23,010 --> 01:19:26,940 in a vacuum. Also, there's real work that goes into this as 1218 01:19:26,970 --> 01:19:30,180 obvious. The question is, do you learn something from it? Does it 1219 01:19:30,180 --> 01:19:33,510 have value to you? And all we're asking for? And remember, the 1220 01:19:33,510 --> 01:19:37,290 reason why you're hearing this open dialog is because there are 1221 01:19:37,290 --> 01:19:41,460 no advertisers to satisfy who don't want controversy. There's 1222 01:19:41,460 --> 01:19:45,180 no no way for us to be canceled because there's nothing to 1223 01:19:45,180 --> 01:19:50,580 cancel unless the producers want to cancel us. And that's why we 1224 01:19:50,580 --> 01:19:53,430 asked you to return some of the value that you received in 1225 01:19:53,430 --> 01:19:56,340 return. We'd love it when you put it into monetary format that 1226 01:19:56,340 --> 01:19:59,610 makes it really easy to count and makes it easy to keep the 1227 01:19:59,610 --> 01:20:02,010 show go Weighing in want to thank, I think we can do the 1228 01:20:02,010 --> 01:20:05,880 whole list today we don't have a huge list. They don't have a cut 1229 01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:10,470 off amount, but we'll just go down. And we will make the top 1230 01:20:10,650 --> 01:20:14,280 supporter who didn't hit the $200 threshold, which is a 1231 01:20:14,580 --> 01:20:17,430 standard in the podcast industry for Associate Executive 1232 01:20:17,430 --> 01:20:22,470 Producer. But we want to thank Vincent directly for $100 and he 1233 01:20:22,470 --> 01:20:25,920 is not do I read this as a private little note we got here. 1234 01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:30,840 You can read it. Yeah. event he says he's most lunch table, 1235 01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:31,350 buddy. 1236 01:20:32,970 --> 01:20:33,750 What's the story? 1237 01:20:35,159 --> 01:20:38,549 That's one of the guys that you know, I asked the podcast to 1238 01:20:38,549 --> 01:20:44,999 before I had a podcast last time you were 1239 01:20:45,300 --> 01:20:50,130 you would be laying down some more facts during lunch. Yeah, 1240 01:20:50,190 --> 01:20:54,420 nice. All right. So now, now do you still have lunch with Vinny 1241 01:20:54,420 --> 01:20:57,210 or is that is that overnight? Listen to the podcast. 1242 01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:03,000 Oh, no. It's both but he has to hear it less now. Just listen to 1243 01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:03,450 the show. 1244 01:21:04,050 --> 01:21:07,320 Thank you very much Vinnie. And you will be our our associative 1245 01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:10,980 deck executive producer for today's episode Benjamin 1246 01:21:11,010 --> 01:21:17,190 Herbstreit. $55.10 We know that as double nickels on the dime 1247 01:21:17,220 --> 01:21:20,760 some valuable for invaluable content. Thank you. Storm 1248 01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,970 Williams says great show eat bugs. Listen to Moe and curry 1249 01:21:23,970 --> 01:21:31,260 and donate $50 James Lawler at sea James came in with 4999 says 1250 01:21:31,260 --> 01:21:34,770 mo fine listen to episode 21. We essentially thanked me for my 1251 01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:39,330 special donation. I felt a kinship with you from episode 1252 01:21:39,330 --> 01:21:42,300 one. And I'm truly honored that you and Adam consider me the 1253 01:21:42,300 --> 01:21:45,090 same and welcomed me and his family. That meant so much to 1254 01:21:45,090 --> 01:21:48,480 me. I'm not a rich man, at least not in money. And wish this okey 1255 01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:50,850 could give you more because the value you've given me is 1256 01:21:50,850 --> 01:21:53,040 priceless. I can't thank you enough for having this 1257 01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,830 conversation. opening my eyes to a whole new perspective. I truly 1258 01:21:55,830 --> 01:21:59,100 believe that united we are unstoppable. Thank you again for 1259 01:21:59,100 --> 01:22:01,920 your courage and know that you and Adam will have family and 1260 01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:07,440 OKC and that we will welcome you in any time and even entice you 1261 01:22:07,440 --> 01:22:11,670 with our rabbit meat and goat milk or whatever. Wow man was 1262 01:22:11,670 --> 01:22:17,130 doing good up until that. Very nice. Thank you man. 1263 01:22:17,130 --> 01:22:20,520 I believe he's on top donator so far across the history of the 1264 01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:21,300 show. Just 1265 01:22:21,540 --> 01:22:23,850 Okay, good. I'm glad you're keeping tabs on that. He is 1266 01:22:23,850 --> 01:22:28,710 definitely definitely up there. $48 from Patrick Stassi Stacey 1267 01:22:28,710 --> 01:22:32,490 Ack. keep the show going. It's important he says dropping the 1268 01:22:32,490 --> 01:22:37,500 tea like a good millennial bread are King $33.33 of favorite 1269 01:22:37,500 --> 01:22:42,210 number. The MLK show holy crap mo blowing my mind but I believe 1270 01:22:42,210 --> 01:22:48,360 it value for value donating his love. Yeah, I love the phrase 1271 01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:52,080 that you that you taught me. 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You 1320 01:26:15,780 --> 01:26:21,690 can go directly to our donation page mo fund me.com. mov fund 1321 01:26:21,690 --> 01:26:29,610 me.com. And we will be thanking people on the next episode. And 1322 01:26:29,610 --> 01:26:34,290 now back to our Black History Month bonus Day episode. 1323 01:26:35,730 --> 01:26:39,210 So where we left off, it was redlining. Yes. So I'm going to 1324 01:26:39,210 --> 01:26:42,180 do a little history lesson on redlining. We know we always 1325 01:26:42,180 --> 01:26:45,630 have to go back to understand what the past and how it impacts 1326 01:26:45,630 --> 01:26:49,170 the future. But first, I found it a little funny bit by the 1327 01:26:49,170 --> 01:26:50,460 route on red Lonnie, 1328 01:26:50,670 --> 01:26:53,970 are you looking for a new neighborhood to live in? Then 1329 01:26:53,970 --> 01:26:58,290 come on down to redlining Realty sanctioned by the US government. 1330 01:26:59,220 --> 01:27:02,940 There's the breast infrastructure, underfunded 1331 01:27:02,940 --> 01:27:08,010 school. No white people. They're all in the suburbs. Heck, we'll 1332 01:27:08,010 --> 01:27:12,360 even throw in freeze you know, doesn't that sound nice? Call 1333 01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,600 redlining Realty today, and we'll get you a house built on 1334 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,990 the most American foundation of all racism. 1335 01:27:21,449 --> 01:27:22,229 Thanks route. 1336 01:27:23,310 --> 01:27:28,950 Yeah, so you know the route. But I found this show called Adam, 1337 01:27:29,010 --> 01:27:34,110 Adam Ruins Everything. Oh, true TV. Yes. Not you, Adam. Well, 1338 01:27:34,799 --> 01:27:36,089 the other Adam Yeah. 1339 01:27:37,529 --> 01:27:41,219 And he lays out the disturbing history of the suburbs. 1340 01:27:43,979 --> 01:27:49,169 It's not so white here look. Bad example. Ignore sweater dog 1341 01:27:49,169 --> 01:27:53,189 people. A tote bag full of kale. You're killing me, lady. Okay, 1342 01:27:53,219 --> 01:27:57,599 maybe this neighborhood is mostly to completely to 1343 01:27:57,929 --> 01:28:01,379 insufferably white. But that that's just the way things are 1344 01:28:01,379 --> 01:28:03,749 here. It doesn't mean we're racist. 1345 01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:07,470 I'm sure you're not wrong. But the fact that so many suburbs 1346 01:28:07,470 --> 01:28:11,880 are mostly white is no accident. It's the result of decades of 1347 01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:15,120 racist federal policy that affect us to this day. 1348 01:28:15,449 --> 01:28:20,189 Look. What the heck kind of game is this? 1349 01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:27,900 It's settlers of the suburbs, redlining edition. Up Green, run 1350 01:28:27,930 --> 01:28:28,860 your red. All 1351 01:28:28,859 --> 01:28:32,759 right, red, just like the name looks like I've got the 1352 01:28:32,759 --> 01:28:33,659 advantage. 1353 01:28:33,689 --> 01:28:39,029 No, you don't see in the 1930s. As part of the New Deal, F er 1354 01:28:39,029 --> 01:28:42,959 created loan programs to help Americans finance their homes. 1355 01:28:42,989 --> 01:28:46,469 But to decide who got those loans. The government created 1356 01:28:46,469 --> 01:28:50,369 color coded maps in which green neighborhoods were good and red 1357 01:28:50,369 --> 01:28:53,969 neighborhoods were bad. This practice became known as 1358 01:28:53,969 --> 01:28:54,929 redlining. 1359 01:28:56,399 --> 01:28:59,249 Was this the creation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as well? 1360 01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:04,920 I'm not sure. All right. Maybe I'm thinking I think it may have 1361 01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:12,390 been a little lighter with I want to say LBJ, 1362 01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:16,080 I want to say oh, yeah, okay. Well, I'll look it up. Look it 1363 01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:16,260 up. 1364 01:29:17,130 --> 01:29:24,510 But as you heard this deal with government practices, yes. And 1365 01:29:24,510 --> 01:29:29,070 need you as you heard. People say, Democrats say FDR was one 1366 01:29:29,070 --> 01:29:35,520 of our greatest presidents. How you gave us what we found out to 1367 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:39,390 be public housing, which pushed and previous show we talked 1368 01:29:39,390 --> 01:29:44,370 about the no man house rule, right. And public housing 1369 01:29:44,370 --> 01:29:47,100 projects. And this is the other thing that we got out the New 1370 01:29:47,100 --> 01:29:51,780 Deal, all redlining, so I'm not quite sure how that helped. 1371 01:29:53,130 --> 01:29:54,690 But it helped the white people 1372 01:29:56,069 --> 01:29:57,929 as we're going to hear suburbs to 1373 01:29:58,260 --> 01:30:00,900 because of these policies. If you live in Green neighborhoods, 1374 01:30:00,930 --> 01:30:08,610 it was super easy to get a home loan and buy property. For folks 1375 01:30:08,610 --> 01:30:11,550 in the red areas, no loans were available. 1376 01:30:11,850 --> 01:30:15,750 I can barely afford rent with this. There's no fair the red 1377 01:30:15,750 --> 01:30:17,070 areas are screwed. 1378 01:30:17,099 --> 01:30:20,699 Yeah, they were. And you know why some areas were designated 1379 01:30:20,699 --> 01:30:24,659 as red? No, but I can guess those were the neighborhoods 1380 01:30:24,659 --> 01:30:27,809 where African Americans and other minorities lived. And 1381 01:30:27,809 --> 01:30:31,109 redlining systematically prevented them from getting home 1382 01:30:31,109 --> 01:30:32,189 loans. Wow. 1383 01:30:32,429 --> 01:30:36,599 I know what I'll do. Just take my little guy and put him in the 1384 01:30:36,599 --> 01:30:37,589 green neighborhood. 1385 01:30:37,710 --> 01:30:41,580 Sorry, that's against the rules. Early suburb developers like 1386 01:30:41,580 --> 01:30:45,210 William Levitt instituted explicitly racist policies, 1387 01:30:45,329 --> 01:30:49,439 levied townhomes must not be used or occupied by any person 1388 01:30:49,469 --> 01:30:52,469 other than members of the Caucasian race, 1389 01:30:52,679 --> 01:30:55,889 and the federal government itself, encourage developers to 1390 01:30:55,889 --> 01:30:56,669 discriminate 1391 01:30:56,789 --> 01:30:57,779 developers, I 1392 01:30:57,779 --> 01:31:02,129 want you to exclude non whites. The result of these policies is 1393 01:31:02,129 --> 01:31:07,349 that from 1934 through 1968, a whopping 98% of home loans were 1394 01:31:07,349 --> 01:31:08,969 given to white families. 1395 01:31:10,470 --> 01:31:14,310 Okay, this is not fair. I did not get to pick what color I was 1396 01:31:14,310 --> 01:31:15,240 when I started. 1397 01:31:15,329 --> 01:31:17,039 Yeah, no one does. 1398 01:31:19,529 --> 01:31:23,399 What the justification the way I understand it, and that was the 1399 01:31:24,119 --> 01:31:29,429 what is now what is it? What what the Ben Carson HUD, I guess 1400 01:31:29,459 --> 01:31:35,849 Housing Urban? Yes. Federal Housing Administration. They the 1401 01:31:35,849 --> 01:31:41,099 redlining was justified, because if black people moved into the 1402 01:31:41,099 --> 01:31:45,239 white people, neighborhoods, it would decrease the value of 1403 01:31:45,239 --> 01:31:48,959 their homes. That's not racist. True, all. 1404 01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,340 True. And so we're going to it was a couple of things. It's 1405 01:31:53,370 --> 01:31:58,860 starting to tie in to this episode. white flight, as we 1406 01:31:58,860 --> 01:32:02,670 talked about on a previous episode, yep. white flight was 1407 01:32:02,670 --> 01:32:05,550 driven out of if you move into my neighborhood, you make the 1408 01:32:05,550 --> 01:32:10,590 property value go down. Yeah. So that's why they moved before 1409 01:32:10,590 --> 01:32:16,710 they got stuck with the depreciating asset. Yeah. Which 1410 01:32:16,710 --> 01:32:18,810 would have put them basically what happened in the subprime 1411 01:32:18,810 --> 01:32:23,040 lending scandal. You bought a house for more than it was worth 1412 01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:27,210 after the after the fact? Yep. So we have, we have white 1413 01:32:27,210 --> 01:32:34,770 flight. And then we have another thing. The integration that we 1414 01:32:34,770 --> 01:32:36,990 talked about with the color purple, not color, purple, 1415 01:32:36,990 --> 01:32:40,710 excuse me, raising his son. That was the whole premise behind 1416 01:32:40,710 --> 01:32:44,340 that the family moving into the white neighborhood. Now, I've 1417 01:32:44,340 --> 01:32:48,660 always been against of force integration. So I'm all for 1418 01:32:48,660 --> 01:32:55,110 separate but equal. Why can't we just allow the funds to flow 1419 01:32:55,110 --> 01:32:59,340 into the quote unquote, red areas, that way you can upgrade 1420 01:32:59,340 --> 01:33:03,060 your property, bring value, and then it was you could create 1421 01:33:03,060 --> 01:33:06,840 your own communities. So you can see how this this is kind of 1422 01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,570 what the justification for people wanting to move move into 1423 01:33:09,570 --> 01:33:12,990 white neighborhoods. But it was all fine. It was all a force by 1424 01:33:13,230 --> 01:33:21,420 federal law. Yes. So I think we left off at two. So suburbs 1425 01:33:21,420 --> 01:33:22,590 three, and 1426 01:33:22,590 --> 01:33:26,340 this advantage compounded over time, the families in the green 1427 01:33:26,370 --> 01:33:29,100 or white neighborhoods were able to purchase homes and accrue 1428 01:33:29,100 --> 01:33:29,610 wealth. 1429 01:33:31,500 --> 01:33:33,480 I can sell my house and buy a bigger one. 1430 01:33:35,970 --> 01:33:39,180 Whereas the people in the red neighborhoods got none of those 1431 01:33:39,180 --> 01:33:40,350 opportunities. 1432 01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:43,920 I can't afford property I'm behind on my electric 1433 01:33:43,949 --> 01:33:47,369 bill. In the green neighborhoods, the influx of new 1434 01:33:47,369 --> 01:33:52,709 wealth attracted new businesses. Oh, yeah. And again, a grocery 1435 01:33:52,739 --> 01:33:56,669 which cause property values to go up, which meant white 1436 01:33:56,669 --> 01:33:59,669 families could sell their homes and send their kids to college. 1437 01:34:01,679 --> 01:34:05,669 So fast passing down their wealth and advantages to future 1438 01:34:05,669 --> 01:34:11,099 generations. Meanwhile, the red neighborhoods had far less 1439 01:34:11,099 --> 01:34:14,249 ability to build wealth, and many remain trapped in poverty. 1440 01:34:15,029 --> 01:34:19,049 This game is rigged. Yeah, it was. That's why laws were 1441 01:34:19,049 --> 01:34:21,599 eventually passed that made most of these discriminatory 1442 01:34:21,599 --> 01:34:23,279 practices. Illegal. 1443 01:34:24,420 --> 01:34:29,940 Great. Finally, I can move. I don't have enough money. 1444 01:34:30,149 --> 01:34:32,999 Exactly. Without wealth. Families in the red 1445 01:34:32,999 --> 01:34:35,609 neighborhoods couldn't afford to move up keeping these 1446 01:34:35,609 --> 01:34:40,289 communities separated by race today. 70 years after Levittown 1447 01:34:40,289 --> 01:34:43,259 was created it's still less than 1% Black 1448 01:34:43,290 --> 01:34:46,890 I may be dead but the effect of my racism 1449 01:34:46,890 --> 01:34:53,280 lives on. Yes, some local and this may be now the thing about 1450 01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:57,810 this may be the same everywhere. The redlining was accentuated in 1451 01:34:57,810 --> 01:35:03,750 Austin, we have I 30 Five. And that was the line right there. 1452 01:35:04,050 --> 01:35:07,800 Eastside Westside, you and I live on the east side, I live in 1453 01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:11,970 the red line district. And but then when, when I when I moved 1454 01:35:12,060 --> 01:35:18,060 when I'm moving on down, I'm called the gentle fire can't 1455 01:35:18,060 --> 01:35:18,450 win, 1456 01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:22,859 you can't you can't win. Oh, and that was very popular for them 1457 01:35:22,859 --> 01:35:26,189 to use interstates as I said before it Durham freeway ran 1458 01:35:26,189 --> 01:35:29,099 through Hayti, Durham, North Carolina, that district 1459 01:35:29,099 --> 01:35:32,969 destroyed that community. So love it. I think it was leaving 1460 01:35:32,999 --> 01:35:37,559 town to the town. I have a I have a couple, a black couple 1461 01:35:37,559 --> 01:35:41,129 that were war. husband was a World War Two vet. And I just 1462 01:35:41,129 --> 01:35:46,289 want to give a little color to the story and human touch to the 1463 01:35:46,289 --> 01:35:47,309 story of redlining. 1464 01:35:50,220 --> 01:35:55,710 We came to Levittown. And we found the model house. And we 1465 01:35:55,710 --> 01:36:02,460 walked in and we looked around. And, of course, in the eyes of a 1466 01:36:03,660 --> 01:36:08,310 young man who was raised in the ghetto, so to speak. It was an 1467 01:36:08,310 --> 01:36:12,660 interesting experience, interesting lifestyle, seeing 1468 01:36:12,660 --> 01:36:17,880 all the new modern conveniences very fascinating. 1469 01:36:20,340 --> 01:36:23,820 Eugene Burnett came home with almost a million other black T 1470 01:36:23,820 --> 01:36:28,740 eyes. They had fought for the country in segregated ranks. 1471 01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:32,910 They returned hoping for equality and the American dream. 1472 01:36:34,140 --> 01:36:38,700 For many, that dream was a new home for little money down. And 1473 01:36:38,700 --> 01:36:41,670 some of the easiest credit terms in history. 1474 01:36:43,020 --> 01:36:47,160 I went up to the salesman, were interested in your home 1475 01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,880 interested in buying one and what is the procedure? Is there 1476 01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:56,130 an application to be filled out? So of course, he looked at me 1477 01:36:58,230 --> 01:37:02,460 looked around and he said to me says Listen, it's not me. But 1478 01:37:02,460 --> 01:37:07,710 the onus of this development have not as yet decided to sell 1479 01:37:07,710 --> 01:37:09,330 these homes to negros. 1480 01:37:11,189 --> 01:37:16,079 It was as though it wasn't really you can't imagine. wait 1481 01:37:16,079 --> 01:37:21,389 for someone to come out and actually tell you that they can 1482 01:37:21,389 --> 01:37:25,319 sell to you you know, I was really on a man look at this 1483 01:37:25,319 --> 01:37:29,129 house. Can you imagine having this and then for them to tell 1484 01:37:29,129 --> 01:37:32,189 me because of the color of my skin? I can't be a part of it. 1485 01:37:33,270 --> 01:37:38,490 Yeah, this this is well known story about 1486 01:37:40,199 --> 01:37:41,639 World War Two vet. 1487 01:37:43,979 --> 01:37:52,589 Lemon Lemon, lemon tree live in Levittown was built with I think 1488 01:37:52,589 --> 01:37:56,219 probably some money as well, from the veteran, the VA. I 1489 01:37:56,219 --> 01:37:59,339 mean, the whole idea of this place was for veterans to be 1490 01:37:59,339 --> 01:38:04,439 able to come back from war get their families going. And 1491 01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:09,059 started life as as people who served the country deserve and 1492 01:38:09,180 --> 01:38:12,960 finally had their piece of the pie. 1493 01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:15,900 I didn't know you're such a singer mo 1494 01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:20,939 that's the point. That's all we want. Is our piece of the pie. 1495 01:38:20,970 --> 01:38:32,280 Now does some of the problems between black and Jewish stemmed 1496 01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:38,280 from this in the Levites were were Jewish? Yes. And well and 1497 01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:41,610 I'm wondering if this if Well, I'm sure it didn't help any of 1498 01:38:41,610 --> 01:38:46,020 the any of the relations between these groups. But I wonder if 1499 01:38:46,020 --> 01:38:47,250 part of the Genesis 1500 01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:52,170 it went and it went on then and it goes on now even today you've 1501 01:38:52,170 --> 01:38:59,310 seen the stories in New Jersey what happens is when the great 1502 01:38:59,310 --> 01:39:04,500 migration so when blacks first move north and to the slums 1503 01:39:05,370 --> 01:39:10,140 there they were previously occupied by other ethnic groups 1504 01:39:10,140 --> 01:39:13,020 non white to me because that was before everybody was not meant 1505 01:39:13,020 --> 01:39:18,780 to white so you had these other use the immigrant groups that 1506 01:39:18,780 --> 01:39:20,010 the blacks were rent from? 1507 01:39:20,729 --> 01:39:23,939 Okay, who do you remember just out of curiosity, who would who 1508 01:39:23,939 --> 01:39:26,489 would that be? What are their immigrant immigrant groups would 1509 01:39:26,489 --> 01:39:26,939 that be 1510 01:39:26,970 --> 01:39:30,930 Jewish mostly Jewish? Mostly Jew especially in Detroit in places 1511 01:39:30,930 --> 01:39:35,190 like that? Yeah. So they would they will move up and then we 1512 01:39:35,190 --> 01:39:38,310 will fit backfield their community that they left behind 1513 01:39:38,310 --> 01:39:43,170 got it, but they would explore it and we talked about this on a 1514 01:39:43,170 --> 01:39:46,980 previous show, they will explore it through the way they ran it 1515 01:39:47,340 --> 01:39:51,000 and even they will say okay, I'm gonna sell you the house, but if 1516 01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:54,450 you miss one payment, you lose all your equity, right? things 1517 01:39:54,450 --> 01:39:59,970 of this nature. So yes, that is they contribute to the the 1518 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:06,060 Tension between those two groups. So, but yeah, I mean, 1519 01:40:06,270 --> 01:40:10,200 just so I just want to let this couple finish up with their 1520 01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:10,710 story. 1521 01:40:14,819 --> 01:40:19,709 The FHA underwriters warned that the presence of even one or two 1522 01:40:19,709 --> 01:40:23,519 non white families could undermine real estate values in 1523 01:40:23,519 --> 01:40:28,649 the new suburbs. These government guidelines were 1524 01:40:28,649 --> 01:40:36,599 widely adopted by private industry. Race had long played a 1525 01:40:36,599 --> 01:40:42,299 role in local real estate practices. Starting in the 1526 01:40:42,299 --> 01:40:47,009 1930s, government officials institutionalized the national 1527 01:40:47,009 --> 01:40:51,119 appraisal system where race was as much a factor in Real Estate 1528 01:40:51,119 --> 01:40:56,399 Assessment as the condition of the property. You using this 1529 01:40:56,399 --> 01:41:02,159 scheme, federal investigators evaluated 239 cities across the 1530 01:41:02,159 --> 01:41:04,319 country for financial risk. 1531 01:41:05,850 --> 01:41:09,690 So that those communities that were all white, suburban and far 1532 01:41:09,690 --> 01:41:14,970 away from minority areas, they received the highest rating, and 1533 01:41:14,970 --> 01:41:20,790 that was the color green. Those communities that were all 1534 01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:25,260 minority or in the process of changing, they got the lowest 1535 01:41:25,260 --> 01:41:33,810 rating and the color red and they were red line. As a 1536 01:41:33,810 --> 01:41:37,890 consequence, most of the mortgages went to suburban eyes 1537 01:41:37,890 --> 01:41:40,770 in America. And it's suburbanized. It racially 1538 01:41:42,779 --> 01:41:45,899 so this is what this is what contributed to the racial wealth 1539 01:41:45,899 --> 01:41:51,539 gap. Okay, and as you I want to point something out here. When 1540 01:41:51,539 --> 01:41:55,679 you think about images of racist, white supremacist is 1541 01:41:55,679 --> 01:42:02,039 certainly some country guy, poor guy in Alabama, West Virginia, 1542 01:42:02,339 --> 01:42:06,629 you know, Mississippi, but this is the real, right. So when we 1543 01:42:06,629 --> 01:42:08,759 talk about why super this is what I'm talking about, this is 1544 01:42:08,759 --> 01:42:12,989 the fhsaa you get to black people in your neighborhood. Now 1545 01:42:12,989 --> 01:42:15,299 your your property value is going to plummet. 1546 01:42:17,790 --> 01:42:22,380 In fact, I'll take it one step further. Yes, this this was the 1547 01:42:22,380 --> 01:42:29,430 US government. But it really was kowtow into Wall Street. That's 1548 01:42:29,430 --> 01:42:32,490 really what it was about. Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. 1549 01:42:32,670 --> 01:42:39,900 What do we know that works on Wall Street? Bloomberg, 1550 01:42:40,500 --> 01:42:44,850 uh huh. And that's why redlining read all redlining, you know, 1551 01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:49,740 would have protected us from the subprime lending, you know, if 1552 01:42:49,740 --> 01:42:53,280 we, if I just had my way, but Well, well, 1553 01:42:53,340 --> 01:42:57,900 well, well, well stop. No stops. So Uber is actually so racist. 1554 01:42:57,900 --> 01:43:01,650 He's, he's like, 1945. Racist? 1555 01:43:02,100 --> 01:43:04,740 Yes, he's institutional racism. 1556 01:43:05,190 --> 01:43:09,150 He's the OG that's good. Um, Trump is just a wannabe compared 1557 01:43:09,150 --> 01:43:09,780 to this. 1558 01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:14,550 So just think about it. Now we're starting to see these two 1559 01:43:14,550 --> 01:43:19,050 things. And where they converge it you have red lining, which 1560 01:43:19,050 --> 01:43:24,060 keeps them inside their zones. And then you send in the stop 1561 01:43:24,060 --> 01:43:28,020 and frisk to police them in their zones. This is all 1562 01:43:28,020 --> 01:43:31,380 institutional right. This is when we say institutional 1563 01:43:31,380 --> 01:43:32,700 racism. That's is what was 1564 01:43:32,699 --> 01:43:35,639 it? Yeah. This completely completely 1565 01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:38,250 sanctioned by the government. 1566 01:43:40,829 --> 01:43:45,059 And it's pretty damn recent, as if it's never gone away. 1567 01:43:45,869 --> 01:43:49,049 Well, some people will tell you that red line and did go away, 1568 01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:53,129 but they're still modern day rehmani. 1569 01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:58,410 It's been 10 years since the economic recession, and credit 1570 01:43:58,410 --> 01:44:02,760 has slowly returned for most Americans. By 2016. The number 1571 01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:07,380 of conventional mortgages had risen 95% Since the housing 1572 01:44:07,380 --> 01:44:12,180 bust, and yet some Americans are still being left behind. The gap 1573 01:44:12,180 --> 01:44:15,630 between white and black ownership is wider now than it 1574 01:44:15,630 --> 01:44:20,850 was in 1960. Tonight, the first of a two part series results of 1575 01:44:20,850 --> 01:44:25,020 a year long investigation from reveal a program produced by the 1576 01:44:25,020 --> 01:44:28,350 Center for Investigative Reporting, as reveals Aaron 1577 01:44:28,350 --> 01:44:32,970 glance reports, black and Latino homebuyers in some cities seem 1578 01:44:32,970 --> 01:44:35,310 to have a harder time getting a home mortgage. 1579 01:44:37,979 --> 01:44:41,519 Brooklyn native Rochelle frugal moved to Philadelphia in 2015, 1580 01:44:41,549 --> 01:44:43,019 hoping to buy a home here 1581 01:44:43,649 --> 01:44:46,619 as like, I'm gonna try this thing. You know, I've got a lot 1582 01:44:46,619 --> 01:44:47,249 of gumption. 1583 01:44:47,399 --> 01:44:50,339 She made a good income as a computer programmer, and had 1584 01:44:50,339 --> 01:44:53,669 enough for a downpayment, or potential lender Philadelphia 1585 01:44:53,669 --> 01:44:57,119 mortgage advisors was encouraging at first, but the 1586 01:44:57,119 --> 01:45:00,899 lender worried her income could be unstable. since she was a 1587 01:45:00,899 --> 01:45:04,229 contractor, so for rule suggested her mother cosign 1588 01:45:04,229 --> 01:45:04,919 because 1589 01:45:04,949 --> 01:45:08,219 my mom is a retired school teacher specifically, she lives 1590 01:45:08,219 --> 01:45:11,579 in New York City for 35 years, her pension is great. 1591 01:45:11,849 --> 01:45:14,579 But for rule was told that wasn't enough to offset her 1592 01:45:14,579 --> 01:45:17,939 mother's student loan debt from a PhD. I got shut down, 1593 01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:19,260 left and right. 1594 01:45:19,769 --> 01:45:22,889 She wanted to apply for this loan. She was a contract worker, 1595 01:45:22,889 --> 01:45:26,309 but made very good income. But initially, Mom co signed for it, 1596 01:45:26,339 --> 01:45:29,969 which had a great pension, but it still wasn't enough. So it 1597 01:45:29,969 --> 01:45:33,509 makes you wonder, is this racially motivated? Well, let's 1598 01:45:33,509 --> 01:45:34,589 find out and clip to 1599 01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:38,160 after Rochelle ferrule began to wonder if race factored in her 1600 01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:41,250 loan denial, she decided to use a new strategy. 1601 01:45:41,849 --> 01:45:47,249 In order to be considered a good applicant. I needed to have a 1602 01:45:47,249 --> 01:45:50,189 white person or someone who's white adjacent vouch for me. 1603 01:45:50,639 --> 01:45:53,789 This time, she asked her girlfriend, Hanukkah friends, 1604 01:45:53,939 --> 01:45:57,299 who is half white and half Japanese to apply with her 1605 01:45:57,629 --> 01:46:01,499 friends was working part time at a grocery store. Wonderful, most 1606 01:46:01,499 --> 01:46:07,349 recent bi weekly paychecks was $162. And at the time, your 1607 01:46:07,349 --> 01:46:09,959 financial situation was unstable. Oh, yeah, 1608 01:46:10,170 --> 01:46:11,250 that's terrible. Oh, that 1609 01:46:11,250 --> 01:46:11,880 was so bad. 1610 01:46:11,999 --> 01:46:15,149 It was terrible. I was borrowing money for my sister was helping 1611 01:46:15,149 --> 01:46:17,129 my health insurance at one point because I didn't have enough 1612 01:46:17,129 --> 01:46:17,879 money to pay it. 1613 01:46:18,539 --> 01:46:21,749 But for Santander Bank, the final lender for rural tried, 1614 01:46:21,899 --> 01:46:25,079 none of that seemed to matter. France had a good credit score. 1615 01:46:25,259 --> 01:46:28,259 And when she came on board, it all went smoothly. Even though 1616 01:46:28,259 --> 01:46:30,869 France couldn't provide proof of a stable work history. 1617 01:46:31,079 --> 01:46:33,869 They were like we need to yours. And I was just like, I can't 1618 01:46:33,869 --> 01:46:35,729 give that to you. And they're like, alright, we'll move 1619 01:46:35,729 --> 01:46:37,589 forward. Yeah. Okay. 1620 01:46:38,850 --> 01:46:43,080 All right. So does she have on record they actually say you 1621 01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:47,340 need to have a white person that that was written requirement. 1622 01:46:47,670 --> 01:46:52,350 Know, what she did was it was experiment. But he said, let me 1623 01:46:52,350 --> 01:47:00,030 use a white or white adjacent person, right. When you have 1624 01:47:00,030 --> 01:47:02,610 white person, well, there was some tissue in the door, 1625 01:47:02,639 --> 01:47:06,089 there was something else in there. And I'll just take that 1626 01:47:06,089 --> 01:47:09,659 and run with it to modern day slavery, not necessarily color 1627 01:47:09,659 --> 01:47:14,909 related. She had a good credit score. This has been one of my 1628 01:47:14,909 --> 01:47:18,749 pet peeves. Yes. And you know that to Credit Karma was just 1629 01:47:18,749 --> 01:47:24,659 purchased for $7 billion. Why is it important, because it is a 1630 01:47:24,659 --> 01:47:29,309 slave control mechanism. It's not even the official credit 1631 01:47:29,309 --> 01:47:33,599 score as handed out by the two official credit agencies, it's a 1632 01:47:33,599 --> 01:47:37,349 credit score by the bank or a couple of banks. And you know, 1633 01:47:37,349 --> 01:47:39,749 there's some consortiums that kind of made up, but what they 1634 01:47:39,749 --> 01:47:42,809 really want is they want to have access to your bank account, 1635 01:47:42,839 --> 01:47:45,869 which you give them when you sign up for these apps, you 1636 01:47:45,869 --> 01:47:48,149 actually give them your password, your username, your 1637 01:47:48,149 --> 01:47:51,899 login, token, do whatever they want, see, whatever you do, and 1638 01:47:51,899 --> 01:47:56,099 then even under the guise of, we're going to help you. They 1639 01:47:56,099 --> 01:48:00,989 control you. Okay, so Well, if you pay your utilities bill, at 1640 01:48:00,989 --> 01:48:03,419 the first of the month, your credit score is gonna go up. It 1641 01:48:03,419 --> 01:48:06,839 is total slave control. 1642 01:48:09,329 --> 01:48:14,999 And as a running theme on this show, they always start with us. 1643 01:48:15,779 --> 01:48:16,439 Well, hello, 1644 01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:17,549 hey, thanks. 1645 01:48:18,750 --> 01:48:20,070 Thanks. You know, I 1646 01:48:20,070 --> 01:48:22,980 had to marry a white woman to get enough credit to buy a house 1647 01:48:22,980 --> 01:48:24,840 dammit. It's all your fault. 1648 01:48:25,470 --> 01:48:29,220 And it only takes half a white woman because her girlfriend was 1649 01:48:29,220 --> 01:48:34,710 half white and half. All you got to do is be half halfway. And 1650 01:48:34,710 --> 01:48:38,580 she and I want to talk about this little this little term. 1651 01:48:38,970 --> 01:48:41,820 White adjacent. Yeah. Because that was have you heard this 1652 01:48:41,820 --> 01:48:42,540 term before? 1653 01:48:42,570 --> 01:48:43,530 No, no, I 1654 01:48:43,530 --> 01:48:47,310 don't think so. Okay, why adjacent is a person who is 1655 01:48:47,310 --> 01:48:51,960 technically a minority, but has access to utilize and sometimes 1656 01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:53,430 benefit from white privilege. 1657 01:48:54,479 --> 01:48:55,859 You mean like Drake, so? 1658 01:48:56,850 --> 01:48:58,860 Oprah are gay? 1659 01:48:58,949 --> 01:49:02,639 Okay. Yeah. That's a better example. I got it. Yes. In 1660 01:49:03,510 --> 01:49:08,670 the proximity, but not we see this still goes on today. The 1661 01:49:08,670 --> 01:49:12,330 Emmys. Stop? No. And it's like you said it's all about data 1662 01:49:12,330 --> 01:49:15,270 points. And I mean, iron data points they had back in the day 1663 01:49:15,270 --> 01:49:18,720 was your color your skin like, oh, well, they come from that 1664 01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:21,600 red zone. And he got black skin. So that's it. No, that's the 1665 01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:22,200 hard. No. 1666 01:49:22,770 --> 01:49:25,770 It's so interesting. And this is a good lesson. And it's really 1667 01:49:25,770 --> 01:49:30,030 important. This show is so important. Beyond the racial 1668 01:49:30,030 --> 01:49:34,050 connotation, because this was one data wasn't really 1669 01:49:34,050 --> 01:49:36,960 available. This is when all this started the data was you live in 1670 01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:39,630 this area. This is the color of your skin. There wasn't much 1671 01:49:39,660 --> 01:49:43,920 else data, much, much other data. Now there's all of this 1672 01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:49,530 data and believe me these algos are super racist, super racist, 1673 01:49:49,530 --> 01:49:52,890 and they're determining how much sentencing you get in the 1674 01:49:52,890 --> 01:49:56,400 criminal justice system. How much you can borrow for your 1675 01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:59,970 house in oftentimes if you're appropriate for a certain job. 1676 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:07,410 Bob, and it's baked in it is it is systemic racism. I don't say 1677 01:50:07,410 --> 01:50:13,110 racism, not white supremacy. It built into today's technology. 1678 01:50:13,499 --> 01:50:16,679 Well, like you said, this comes from the bankers and who are the 1679 01:50:16,679 --> 01:50:17,429 bankers? 1680 01:50:19,979 --> 01:50:25,589 Who are the bankers? Well, I can answer that many. Well, 1681 01:50:27,119 --> 01:50:30,869 we like I said, we use this yes, that we use various terms, the 1682 01:50:30,899 --> 01:50:31,409 elite, 1683 01:50:31,470 --> 01:50:36,510 the true white supremecy. was, as our friend would say, 1684 01:50:37,260 --> 01:50:41,070 Uh huh. So I mean, it comes from the top down. Yes. And that's 1685 01:50:41,070 --> 01:50:43,380 why I said, it's fascinating that we're starting to see 1686 01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:48,360 billionaires, you know, run for president and all this truth is 1687 01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:53,790 starting to be unveiled. But with that said, no matter how 1688 01:50:53,790 --> 01:50:58,920 much truth people see, it doesn't matter to them. So we 1689 01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:01,830 going back to the Kara Hunter show, and she had a guest on 1690 01:51:01,830 --> 01:51:06,750 Laurie Daniel favors. And Laurie Daniel favors is an intern for 1691 01:51:06,750 --> 01:51:10,710 the executive director and General Counsel at the Law 1692 01:51:10,740 --> 01:51:16,500 Center on social justice activist attorney, and she's on 1693 01:51:16,500 --> 01:51:19,170 a Karen, she's a contributor to the Karen Hunter show. So she's 1694 01:51:19,170 --> 01:51:22,020 gonna, this is almost a two minute rant. I just want to let 1695 01:51:22,020 --> 01:51:24,690 her run. I didn't want to clip it. I want to let her run 1696 01:51:24,690 --> 01:51:27,480 because no matter how many data points and if people see that 1697 01:51:27,510 --> 01:51:30,810 these two people are like, listen to this cognitive 1698 01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:33,810 dissidence that that she displays. Bloomberg 1699 01:51:33,870 --> 01:51:37,230 is responsible not just for stop and frisk furthering it, 1700 01:51:37,350 --> 01:51:41,850 systematizing it, glorifying it, defending it up until last year 1701 01:51:41,850 --> 01:51:45,030 when he decided he was going to run. But he was surrounded by 1702 01:51:45,060 --> 01:51:49,620 intellectuals, black activists, activists of color up across the 1703 01:51:49,620 --> 01:51:53,520 entire spectrum who outlined for him the problems New York City 1704 01:51:53,940 --> 01:51:57,570 Lawyers Association NYCLU the data, the statistics, he had 1705 01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:01,380 facts, he had information, and he was committed to a racist 1706 01:52:01,380 --> 01:52:05,010 policy that jailed black people arrested black people stop and 1707 01:52:05,010 --> 01:52:09,810 frisk black 32 students, Bushwick, 3232 students who were 1708 01:52:09,810 --> 01:52:13,320 on their way to a funeral had permission from their principals 1709 01:52:13,350 --> 01:52:16,950 had letters from their parents accosted by the cops are held 1710 01:52:16,950 --> 01:52:21,420 for 36 hours had to go to trial had to get in my husband is beat 1711 01:52:21,420 --> 01:52:25,350 up in court by court officers at their defense Trump because the 1712 01:52:25,350 --> 01:52:28,350 way in which police and court officers were militarized 1713 01:52:28,470 --> 01:52:30,960 against black and brown communities and you expect us to 1714 01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:34,230 just eat that he's got money, so he's gonna be the best candidate 1715 01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:37,590 gentrification. Bedford Stuyvesant, Crown Heights, East 1716 01:52:37,590 --> 01:52:42,060 New York, Flatbush, Harlem did the Bronx, black people driven 1717 01:52:42,060 --> 01:52:45,240 out of this city, right under policies that favored wealthy 1718 01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:48,510 white people and developers, we cannot even sustain our 1719 01:52:48,510 --> 01:52:51,630 communities right now. Education, he undermined the 1720 01:52:51,630 --> 01:52:54,150 ability for us to have culturally competent education. 1721 01:52:54,300 --> 01:52:57,450 You want me to sit because he can be Trump. So Trump gonna 1722 01:52:57,660 --> 01:52:59,910 He's gonna do what he do. Bloomberg gonna do what he 1723 01:52:59,910 --> 01:53:02,100 doing? Yeah, he might win. But guess what, all y'all getting 1724 01:53:02,100 --> 01:53:04,470 arrested. All y'all getting stopped in prison. He implements 1725 01:53:04,470 --> 01:53:06,720 the same policies across the country that he further and 1726 01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:09,540 support in the state of New York. Give me a break. We can do 1727 01:53:09,540 --> 01:53:11,580 better than this. And I'm sorry, I gotta agree with Meghan 1728 01:53:11,580 --> 01:53:14,340 McCain. But now I'm upset. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to add 1729 01:53:14,340 --> 01:53:14,490 that. 1730 01:53:15,329 --> 01:53:17,429 If he's the nominee, are you gonna vote for him? I don't 1731 01:53:17,429 --> 01:53:19,979 think he should be the nominee if he's the nominee, because 1732 01:53:19,979 --> 01:53:21,479 that's a strong possibility 1733 01:53:21,510 --> 01:53:24,570 if he's the nominee, knowing. And so having said everything 1734 01:53:24,570 --> 01:53:27,750 that I just said, because I'm aware about how the politics and 1735 01:53:27,750 --> 01:53:30,690 the system in this country works. Yes, I will have to vote 1736 01:53:30,690 --> 01:53:32,130 for him was 1737 01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:36,839 watch. After that rant. 1738 01:53:37,380 --> 01:53:44,100 There you have, oh, my goodness. But I just want to understand 1739 01:53:44,100 --> 01:53:47,070 that just want to understand the justification makes sure I 1740 01:53:47,070 --> 01:53:51,540 understand this. So just go back to that one question. He's 1741 01:53:51,540 --> 01:53:53,550 the nominee, are you going to vote for him? I don't think he 1742 01:53:53,550 --> 01:53:56,100 should be the nominee if he's the nominee, because that's a 1743 01:53:56,100 --> 01:53:57,690 strong possibility if he's 1744 01:53:57,690 --> 01:54:00,600 the nominee, knowing. And so having said everything that I 1745 01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:03,630 just said, because I'm aware about how the politics and the 1746 01:54:03,630 --> 01:54:06,630 system in this country works. Yes, I will have to vote for 1747 01:54:06,630 --> 01:54:06,870 him. 1748 01:54:07,199 --> 01:54:10,649 Wait a minute, I don't understand. She just railed 1749 01:54:10,649 --> 01:54:13,439 about the system and the politics. As he says, Knowing 1750 01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:16,319 how the system and the politics in this country works. He has to 1751 01:54:16,319 --> 01:54:17,129 vote for him. 1752 01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:23,640 You explain it to me, because I don't I don't understand. But 1753 01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:28,080 this is this is what we get. Now, does everybody see these? 1754 01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:30,990 Why are these people cannot be trusted. This is the reason for 1755 01:54:30,990 --> 01:54:34,470 value for value. This is why you need to have the independent 1756 01:54:34,470 --> 01:54:39,150 media. You wouldn't have the Bloomberg tape dug up without a 1757 01:54:39,150 --> 01:54:42,630 podcaster you won't have this conversation we haven't without 1758 01:54:42,630 --> 01:54:46,170 podcast and independent media. And one of those parts of the 1759 01:54:46,170 --> 01:54:49,080 independent media is what is called the New Black Media, 1760 01:54:49,260 --> 01:54:52,440 because they're holding people like this the task that you get 1761 01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:57,420 out here and give a one minute and 58 second rant of everything 1762 01:54:57,420 --> 01:55:01,500 wrong with Michael Bloomberg. and you put him against another 1763 01:55:01,500 --> 01:55:04,170 so called races and you will make a choice instead of saying, 1764 01:55:04,170 --> 01:55:14,130 You know what? I abstain? Well, no, I'm not. 1765 01:55:15,389 --> 01:55:21,989 Well, so there's a number of things. One, this should this 1766 01:55:21,989 --> 01:55:27,149 show, not just this episode, but this is a good one should be 1767 01:55:27,149 --> 01:55:31,619 played in schools across America, children's to have to 1768 01:55:31,619 --> 01:55:35,159 listen to the show, of course your school won't do that. So 1769 01:55:35,159 --> 01:55:38,339 give it to your kids. And if you're really offended by some 1770 01:55:38,339 --> 01:55:42,629 of the naughty words we use, you can always take them out. It is 1771 01:55:43,319 --> 01:55:47,399 especially beautiful to learn this during and of course, I've 1772 01:55:47,399 --> 01:55:49,769 learned more than most people casually dropping in on the 1773 01:55:49,769 --> 01:55:53,969 podcast. But during Black History Month, the bonus day, no 1774 01:55:53,969 --> 01:55:58,259 less. Black people of America, you got some problem with the 1775 01:55:58,259 --> 01:55:59,639 black people of America too. 1776 01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:05,550 We got to clean house. Yes, we have to clean we have to clean 1777 01:56:05,550 --> 01:56:09,240 house, it's lamp people gotta go. It's ramping from the top. 1778 01:56:09,300 --> 01:56:13,560 It's the top 10% And the bottom 10%. And this is what I'm 1779 01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:20,700 saying. The top 10 the top 10%. They highly sit by. And they 1780 01:56:20,700 --> 01:56:24,090 only do what they're told by their pay, you know who 1781 01:56:24,090 --> 01:56:27,150 controlled them? We got to understand what Bula is again, 1782 01:56:27,150 --> 01:56:32,130 that's the that's the adviser to the king. So even heard, she 1783 01:56:32,130 --> 01:56:35,010 laid out everything. But you know what, I'm still gonna vote 1784 01:56:35,010 --> 01:56:39,030 for this, that same thing I say is the problem. How does that 1785 01:56:39,030 --> 01:56:39,390 work? 1786 01:56:40,050 --> 01:56:43,110 That that was the baffling part to me. I loved her rant, her 1787 01:56:43,110 --> 01:56:45,840 rant was fantastic. Except for the last minute, she just blew 1788 01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:48,960 it all up. It's like, what are you, but because Trump is going 1789 01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:51,600 to continue that, and you're gonna vote for the guy who 1790 01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:52,980 actually was doing it. 1791 01:56:53,790 --> 01:56:57,300 And these people don't bring us any solutions. They're the top 1792 01:56:57,300 --> 01:57:00,690 2% They're supposed to be the so called leaders. And then they 1793 01:57:00,690 --> 01:57:04,830 allow us to be terrorized by the bottom 10% in our communities, 1794 01:57:04,830 --> 01:57:09,090 because you damned if you do damned if you don't, right. It's 1795 01:57:09,090 --> 01:57:12,300 like if I want policing in my community, I can't get quality 1796 01:57:12,300 --> 01:57:15,300 policing. Which is why I think we should police ourselves. I 1797 01:57:15,300 --> 01:57:17,580 mean, that's a whole nother show for another whole nother day. 1798 01:57:17,580 --> 01:57:17,910 But 1799 01:57:18,149 --> 01:57:22,199 I explained that the bottom 10% the bottom 10% 1800 01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:27,240 is the you know, when the crowd comes from the people that heard 1801 01:57:27,270 --> 01:57:30,360 him saying I mean, it's not. That's the point, you have a 1802 01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:36,060 large, quiet group of people in the middle. They are scared to 1803 01:57:36,060 --> 01:57:40,110 call out the top. And they're scared to address the bottom. 1804 01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:43,980 Right? So they stay silent and I won't stay silent. Yes, you can 1805 01:57:43,980 --> 01:57:47,790 do two things at once. We can call out the top by saying tell 1806 01:57:47,790 --> 01:57:49,950 the bottom this is not acceptable behavior. I 1807 01:57:49,950 --> 01:57:53,340 understand the source of it. I understand that communities were 1808 01:57:53,340 --> 01:57:59,160 taught full of drugs and guns and you suppressed and not 1809 01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:02,490 allowed to have funding and lending and everything else that 1810 01:58:02,550 --> 01:58:05,850 all the other Americans are privileged. But that is no 1811 01:58:06,060 --> 01:58:09,870 reason to terrorize your own people and your own community. 1812 01:58:11,070 --> 01:58:14,730 No, you could do you could chew gum at the same time. 1813 01:58:14,730 --> 01:58:18,270 I mean, come on. Yeah. Wow. But 1814 01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:25,830 but not to end on that low note. Always like to know, just for 1815 01:58:25,830 --> 01:58:32,580 the psyche. One of the biggest scandals that were overlooked in 1816 01:58:32,580 --> 01:58:41,100 this whole Trump and Bloomberg. fiasco Smackdown was covered by 1817 01:58:41,100 --> 01:58:44,130 Mr. Jackson, which is a YouTuber, he only has 200 1818 01:58:44,130 --> 01:58:48,900 subscribers. So that goes to show you how I dig to find these 1819 01:58:48,900 --> 01:58:49,380 clips. 1820 01:58:49,859 --> 01:58:52,439 It's been dubbed mini Mike Bloomberg has been trying to 1821 01:58:52,439 --> 01:58:55,619 hide his hide from the voters. However, thanks to video 1822 01:58:55,619 --> 01:58:59,579 evidence, it will be impossible for Bloomberg to lay low, except 1823 01:58:59,609 --> 01:59:03,329 on a measuring tape. Here we see mini Mike standing on a box 1824 01:59:03,329 --> 01:59:06,389 while giving a speech. So we know it's not beyond him to pull 1825 01:59:06,389 --> 01:59:09,659 all sorts of tricks. Little Mike's favorite trick is to use 1826 01:59:09,659 --> 01:59:12,839 a pair of lifts inside of his shoes, and he might have got 1827 01:59:12,839 --> 01:59:16,829 away with it with the help of MSNBC. Here we see MSNBC put a 1828 01:59:16,829 --> 01:59:20,759 box in front of the evidence, so we don't know what he's really 1829 01:59:20,759 --> 01:59:25,139 wearing. Luckily, I was able to find this photo on the internet, 1830 01:59:25,499 --> 01:59:29,039 which clearly shows the shoes he was wearing the night of the 1831 01:59:29,039 --> 01:59:33,449 disaster in the desert, the Democratic debates. Notice 1832 01:59:33,449 --> 01:59:38,459 anything funny about the issues? I do. Look at those lifts there 1833 01:59:38,459 --> 01:59:41,699 on the side pressing out on the shoe we can see he's got at 1834 01:59:41,699 --> 01:59:45,629 least four or five inches of lift in there. Though the 1835 01:59:45,629 --> 01:59:50,699 cameras use tricks to hide his lifts from viewers. There was no 1836 01:59:50,699 --> 01:59:54,389 way of escaping the fact that at some point, Bloomberg would have 1837 01:59:54,389 --> 01:59:56,069 to walk in those shoes. 1838 01:59:57,750 --> 02:00:00,780 I can't believe I missed this. Where are you You all kind of on 1839 02:00:00,780 --> 02:00:04,860 top of it, because you caught where they had lowered the 1840 02:00:04,860 --> 02:00:05,640 lecterns? Yeah, 1841 02:00:05,639 --> 02:00:10,109 I saw that but I didn't know we had lifts in his shoes. He had a 1842 02:00:10,109 --> 02:00:13,199 double boost. Oh my goodness. 1843 02:00:15,210 --> 02:00:16,470 So it's lift gate is the 1844 02:00:17,819 --> 02:00:23,189 total lift gate. Oh, man. I'm looking for a picture now. Now I 1845 02:00:23,189 --> 02:00:24,059 want to see it 1846 02:00:25,529 --> 02:00:29,639 though we'll post a video of this. Yeah, Mr. Jackson's 1847 02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:32,880 video. Yeah, Mr. Jackson's video. Definitely want to see 1848 02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:35,910 that. Definitely. I want to put it in the show notes. That's too 1849 02:00:35,910 --> 02:00:37,830 good, man. All right. 1850 02:00:37,830 --> 02:00:39,840 Well, let's let Mr. Jackson finish up. Now. 1851 02:00:40,170 --> 02:00:44,700 Let's take a look at how Mayor Bloomberg walks first. In 1852 02:00:44,700 --> 02:00:47,730 regular time, I'll see if you can catch what's so strange 1853 02:00:47,730 --> 02:00:54,720 about this walk. Interesting. Now let's take a look at it in 1854 02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:58,800 slow motion. And I want you to take a very close look at his 1855 02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:06,180 knee. More specifically where the knee bends Wow, look how 1856 02:01:06,180 --> 02:01:10,650 long that leg is amazing, isn't it? Let's take a look again. 1857 02:01:12,090 --> 02:01:16,530 Very very big shins you have their Mayor Mike. Perhaps many 1858 02:01:16,530 --> 02:01:20,220 Mike has the world's largest chance. But more likely he's 1859 02:01:20,220 --> 02:01:23,070 wearing a pair of lifts the only person I know with a set of 1860 02:01:23,070 --> 02:01:25,110 shins that log is Dawson. 1861 02:01:29,430 --> 02:01:35,640 Dawson from Street Fighter the only video game I would 1862 02:01:35,640 --> 02:01:43,800 recognize in the entire world we love Dawson. Oh my so he's 1863 02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:46,530 basically on stilts is what we're saying here. It's not just 1864 02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:52,800 it's stilts. Oh my goodness. Ah, that's the best Mo Yeah, we'll 1865 02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:55,980 put Mr. Jackson's video in the show notes. That is too funny. 1866 02:01:56,640 --> 02:02:01,950 Well, that goes to show that Trump in this back and forth 1867 02:02:01,950 --> 02:02:08,850 billionaire Smackdown he definitely has pinpointed 1868 02:02:09,300 --> 02:02:13,110 Bloomberg real sensitive spot if you're going to that length. 1869 02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:18,120 He's so frustrated over it. That's that's pretty incredible. 1870 02:02:18,720 --> 02:02:23,250 That is amazing. Oh man. Mo thank you that made my day. 1871 02:02:23,640 --> 02:02:28,770 Let's remember the show was about redlining racial 1872 02:02:28,770 --> 02:02:32,160 practices, but I love this that was good man. Thank you that 1873 02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:34,230 good laugh good laugh for a Saturday. 1874 02:02:34,890 --> 02:02:41,010 Yeah, doesn't take us out of here. So there you have it. They 1875 02:02:41,010 --> 02:02:45,840 got to look to people that have similar views and two through 1876 02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:46,950 two different lenses. 1877 02:02:46,980 --> 02:02:52,650 Yeah, well, Mo Thank you very much for for bringing all of 1878 02:02:52,650 --> 02:02:56,520 this to the show once again. And I will remind everybody that 1879 02:02:56,520 --> 02:03:00,660 this work should be compensated in the value that you as an 1880 02:03:00,660 --> 02:03:03,720 individual get out of it. So whatever that value is to you 1881 02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:07,290 please send that to us in a monetary form go to Mo Mo 1882 02:03:07,290 --> 02:03:11,730 facts.com or directly to our donation page at Mote fund 1883 02:03:11,730 --> 02:03:14,730 me.com. M OE fund me.com 1884 02:03:14,970 --> 02:03:18,150 And as I always say, pay attention to everything and the 1885 02:03:18,150 --> 02:03:22,200 truth will reveal itself. That is the truth and this is the 1886 02:03:22,200 --> 02:03:26,700 song for many Mike I guess we'll talk to you talk to you next 1887 02:03:26,700 --> 02:03:33,420 week while I talk to you that out of the blue Julia thank you 1888 02:03:37,980 --> 02:04:08,730 again now because you think God can afford you you ever gone 1889 02:04:08,730 --> 02:04:24,120 again you know you broke down last what happened? You man many 1890 02:04:24,120 --> 02:04:39,540 poor girls when they tried to keep the stuff you're never gone 1891 02:04:39,540 --> 02:05:35,610 again. get in return you have my God I'm Jack