1 00:00:14,130 --> 00:00:18,690 More facts with Adam curry for December 30 2022 Episode number 2 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,520 88. We're waving goodbye to 2022 in welcoming the new year with 3 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,310 fresh facts. I'm Adam curry coming to you from the heart of 4 00:00:26,310 --> 00:00:29,730 the Texas Hill Country time once again to spin the Wheel of 5 00:00:29,730 --> 00:00:32,670 topics from here to Northern Virginia. Please say hello to my 6 00:00:32,670 --> 00:00:37,650 friend on the other end. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Moe facts How 7 00:00:37,650 --> 00:00:41,280 you doing Adam? I am doing good. I'm loving the I'm loving the 8 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:46,200 band man. I'm a big fan of of high school and college bands 9 00:00:46,230 --> 00:00:47,160 that Did you know that? 10 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,370 I did not know that. But this is the sonic boom one of the South 11 00:00:50,370 --> 00:00:51,630 Jackson State University. 12 00:00:52,979 --> 00:00:57,479 This you know it I don't know exactly when when it gripped me, 13 00:00:57,479 --> 00:01:00,629 but I think I was like 15 or 16. I was growing up in the 14 00:01:00,629 --> 00:01:05,009 Netherlands. And I first heard my first like drum cadence. And 15 00:01:05,009 --> 00:01:10,049 I was like, Oh, I love this. And then I remember in 1970 Alright, 16 00:01:10,049 --> 00:01:13,919 he's a good boy. Like maybe 1978 Or No way What was the 17 00:01:13,919 --> 00:01:19,589 bicentennial? 76 We went back to, we came on vacation from the 18 00:01:19,589 --> 00:01:22,589 Netherlands to the states. And it was big was the big 19 00:01:22,589 --> 00:01:26,549 bicentennial celebration. 200 years of America. And the two 20 00:01:26,549 --> 00:01:29,789 things I really love was watching the drill team. Now, 21 00:01:30,089 --> 00:01:32,759 the drill team March and then throw in the rifles back and 22 00:01:32,759 --> 00:01:35,759 forth, or the drill sergeant walks in between. But then I 23 00:01:35,759 --> 00:01:39,899 heard this this band. And they did the theme from Entertainment 24 00:01:39,899 --> 00:01:43,679 Tonight. And I was like oh my god, that's doo doo doo doo doo 25 00:01:43,679 --> 00:01:47,069 doo. They were just jamming around like I was looking at I 26 00:01:47,099 --> 00:01:50,699 listened to them for I've often ever since I'm so busy. I'm so 27 00:01:50,699 --> 00:01:51,569 appreciative of that. 28 00:01:51,990 --> 00:01:55,860 I did not know that. But that's, that's a it's a little great. 29 00:01:56,460 --> 00:02:01,410 You enjoy it? No, no, no, it's great. Because according to the 30 00:02:01,410 --> 00:02:04,050 show, what the top is going to be when you want to spin the 31 00:02:04,050 --> 00:02:08,520 wheel and the second, the band is the star of the show. So 32 00:02:09,270 --> 00:02:11,970 Excellent. Excellent. So we're going to start somewhere, we're 33 00:02:11,970 --> 00:02:15,210 going to end somewhere else as we always do. So we want to go 34 00:02:15,210 --> 00:02:17,670 ahead and spin that wheel. I'm going to 35 00:02:17,670 --> 00:02:21,180 crank it up. It's so good to be back to have Moe back and we're 36 00:02:21,180 --> 00:02:24,240 going to spin that round around where it stops. Nobody knows 37 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,510 most No, of course because the topic for today mo Fache with 38 00:02:27,510 --> 00:02:28,770 Adam curry episode 88. 39 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,310 I think they'll get in here but I don't know how long they'll 40 00:02:32,310 --> 00:02:34,080 lay up after they do get in here. 41 00:02:35,250 --> 00:02:37,560 Okay, cryptic, cryptic. 42 00:02:39,570 --> 00:02:44,310 Well, we're starting that is the Jerry Jones, the photo from the 43 00:02:44,310 --> 00:02:47,910 Washington Post. Excuse me. I don't know if you heard about 44 00:02:47,910 --> 00:02:51,720 that. It's be odd if you didn't, because you live in Texas. And 45 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,820 we're going to end up in with primetime, aka coach prom Deion 46 00:02:56,820 --> 00:03:01,080 Sanders. And it's going to be an exciting trip, how we start 47 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,300 they're in where we're going to end it. 48 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:09,420 What's interesting is I know almost nothing about sports. So 49 00:03:09,450 --> 00:03:13,680 whatever you're talking about, I completely miss that. I'm sure 50 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:19,080 it's some. Some team owner or coach being racist. That's 51 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,490 usually what the stories are about. 52 00:03:20,850 --> 00:03:21,630 That's That's 53 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,840 great guest Deion Sanders. Did he not play for a New York team? 54 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:33,870 No, he played for Atlanta. And in San Francisco, then Dallas, 55 00:03:33,870 --> 00:03:37,110 and then he went it bounced around to Washington Redskins, 56 00:03:37,140 --> 00:03:40,320 which hurts my stomach to say that. And I think he ended up in 57 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,850 Baltimore. But he did play baseball in New York. If I'm not 58 00:03:44,850 --> 00:03:45,450 mistaken, yes. 59 00:03:45,450 --> 00:03:49,560 Because I met him. And I met him at the radio station at z 100. 60 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,490 Surprise, right. And I and I'm like I knew was playing for New 61 00:03:53,490 --> 00:03:58,200 York team. This was a lot this was in maybe late 80s 90s. Does 62 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:58,950 that make sense? 63 00:03:59,310 --> 00:04:02,970 He was one of those athletes that could play multiple sports 64 00:04:02,970 --> 00:04:04,650 and we're going to be your barbell 65 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,060 golf. All that stuff. Okay, cool. All right, I'm ready for 66 00:04:09,060 --> 00:04:09,510 less. 67 00:04:09,630 --> 00:04:14,490 Let's jump right into as you accurately against the takedown 68 00:04:14,490 --> 00:04:15,570 of Jerry Jones. 69 00:04:17,130 --> 00:04:19,710 This is a fascinating piece of reporting. We're going to talk 70 00:04:19,710 --> 00:04:21,960 about now we're gonna start with this photo is from September 71 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,160 9 1957. And it shows Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones among 72 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,790 a crowd of white students trying to keep black students from 73 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,480 integrating at an Arkansas High School. This is a Washington 74 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,440 Post's reporting reports that Jones who was 14 at the time 75 00:04:37,470 --> 00:04:40,800 could be seen standing a few yards from where the six black 76 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,580 students were being jostled and repelled with snarling racial 77 00:04:44,580 --> 00:04:49,020 slurs by ringleaders of the mob. So joining us now sports and 78 00:04:49,020 --> 00:04:51,930 feature columnist at the Washington Post, SALLY JENKINS, 79 00:04:51,930 --> 00:04:54,150 gonna have to commend you and your reporting this whole thing 80 00:04:54,390 --> 00:04:58,890 is right. I mean, it's stunning. It's fascinating. So so let's 81 00:04:58,890 --> 00:05:01,470 start with a picture of And then we'll talk about you know how we 82 00:05:01,470 --> 00:05:04,080 could have sort of moved diversity along with coaching in 83 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,320 the NFL and in sports. Let's start with this photograph 84 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,830 though. What did what did you? What did you learn about this 85 00:05:10,830 --> 00:05:12,090 for from this photograph? 86 00:05:12,210 --> 00:05:15,450 Well, I think the first thing you learn is is just how 87 00:05:15,870 --> 00:05:20,100 widespread the segregationists were in Little Rock and North 88 00:05:20,100 --> 00:05:20,700 Little Rock. 89 00:05:21,870 --> 00:05:25,290 Wait a minute, wait. Anyway, this is from a photo from when 90 00:05:25,290 --> 00:05:30,540 he was 14. Yes. Then the man is now what 85? 91 00:05:30,870 --> 00:05:31,980 I believe so. 92 00:05:34,020 --> 00:05:37,470 Oh, I love how Oh, excellent work. Oh, yeah. You really dug 93 00:05:37,470 --> 00:05:39,750 up a doozy here, everybody. Okay, 94 00:05:39,780 --> 00:05:42,540 well, we're gonna jump right into it because I gotta lay out 95 00:05:42,540 --> 00:05:46,620 my theory of what what how this transpired, the timing of it. 96 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:52,560 Everything. This was a strategic attack on Jerry Jones. Now, for 97 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,090 all for full disclosure. I'm a Cowboys. I'm careful with this 98 00:05:57,090 --> 00:06:00,630 word fan, because I'm not a fanatic. But I don't like 99 00:06:00,630 --> 00:06:02,970 support or whatever you were saying some goofy were like 100 00:06:02,970 --> 00:06:07,560 that. I've been a Cowboys quote unquote fan. Since about three 101 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,990 or four years old, and my grandpa bought me a Dallas 102 00:06:09,990 --> 00:06:13,290 Cowboys trash can. And we sit down and watch the game 103 00:06:13,290 --> 00:06:16,320 together. You know, because I went to my grandparents on every 104 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,280 weekend just about so I was there watching football with 105 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:25,140 him. So sports, as we're gonna see throughout this episode, has 106 00:06:25,140 --> 00:06:32,640 a very weird relationship when it comes to race, horse 107 00:06:32,670 --> 00:06:36,570 ownership and all that thing. But that to my theory, this 108 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:44,010 photo dropped from the Washington Post on Thanksgiving 109 00:06:44,010 --> 00:06:47,280 Day, around things before it right before Thanksgiving, which 110 00:06:47,340 --> 00:06:50,160 everybody knows Cowboys take center stage. 111 00:06:50,310 --> 00:06:52,680 Exactly. Now even I know that, 112 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,830 right? Of course, you will meet him saying you know about media 113 00:06:55,830 --> 00:07:00,420 and this cowboys is America's team. Everybody sits around with 114 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:04,500 a stomach full of Turkey and watch ours fall asleep while 115 00:07:04,500 --> 00:07:07,440 watching the Cowboys play. It's like it's the American 116 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,520 tradition. And I don't know if you know this or not. The Dallas 117 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,560 Cowboys is called America's team. 118 00:07:14,100 --> 00:07:17,130 I knew that I live in Texas. Of course. I know some things. Yes. 119 00:07:17,310 --> 00:07:20,490 I would just want I want to make sure. I don't want to make no 120 00:07:20,490 --> 00:07:21,000 please, 121 00:07:21,030 --> 00:07:23,700 please keep asking me stuff like that. Because this is pretty 122 00:07:23,700 --> 00:07:26,490 much the only thing I know that my knowledge stops around here. 123 00:07:26,910 --> 00:07:30,330 Well, I'm gonna tell you about a takedown, which you know all 124 00:07:30,330 --> 00:07:37,530 about. Enter Bezos. Bezos is trying to buy an NFL team. 125 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,150 Right. Oh, I 126 00:07:39,150 --> 00:07:41,100 didn't know that. I mean, it makes sense. That was that's 127 00:07:41,100 --> 00:07:43,740 what most billionaires seem to like to do. And I have no idea 128 00:07:43,740 --> 00:07:44,940 why but okay, and 129 00:07:44,970 --> 00:07:49,800 what costs if you ever seen you saw billions, right? Yeah. That 130 00:07:50,070 --> 00:07:53,430 that the scene in there where Axelrod tried to buy the NFL 131 00:07:53,430 --> 00:07:57,090 team. Yeah. He said this is American royalty. Owning a foot 132 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,330 on the football team is like being knighted? 133 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,840 Yeah, I remember. Yes. I do remember that. And it's 134 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,880 interesting because is that still that way is that really is 135 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,670 that really what the billionaires all think? Oh, of 136 00:08:08,670 --> 00:08:11,490 course, it's interest of course. Because 137 00:08:11,970 --> 00:08:15,690 now what scene was he trying to buy? There? Were saying that he 138 00:08:15,690 --> 00:08:19,500 was trying to buy the Washington commanders which used to be the 139 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:20,520 watch to raise money 140 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,700 known as the Redskins. That was my my parents team by the way 141 00:08:23,700 --> 00:08:25,470 the Redskins were my parents team. 142 00:08:26,099 --> 00:08:30,989 Well, that's strange. This you Redskins fan by by, by 143 00:08:30,989 --> 00:08:35,489 inheritance. And I'm a Cowboys fan with this as another regular 144 00:08:35,489 --> 00:08:36,149 TV show. It'll 145 00:08:36,150 --> 00:08:38,250 switch through there. Now that I'm in Texas, things are 146 00:08:38,250 --> 00:08:38,970 different. Yeah. 147 00:08:39,420 --> 00:08:44,310 So going back. The reporting story was he was trying to buy 148 00:08:44,340 --> 00:08:49,830 the Washington commanders with Jay Z. Okay, as a part ally, as 149 00:08:49,830 --> 00:08:52,260 a part owner, which know how that, you know, 150 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:57,840 that's that's how you get the new stadium JC gets to 0.3% He 151 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,110 pretends like he's an owner, and then we do no sport and then we 152 00:09:01,350 --> 00:09:04,830 verify the whole place, actually, well, I do know Ted 153 00:09:04,830 --> 00:09:08,220 leonsis, who's the owner of the what's the hockey team in 154 00:09:08,220 --> 00:09:13,080 Washington, the capitals, the capitals, so and yeah, I know 155 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,900 this guy pretty well. And yeah, it is definitely a royalty thing 156 00:09:15,900 --> 00:09:17,070 that I think about it. Yeah. 157 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:22,980 Well, Snyder has been quoted as saying I have because they tried 158 00:09:22,980 --> 00:09:25,560 to get Snyder out of here. They done this with the owner, 159 00:09:25,740 --> 00:09:28,740 Richardson down in Carolina, which they were saying with the 160 00:09:28,740 --> 00:09:32,250 Me too. So they've been trying to get Snyder out of there. But 161 00:09:32,250 --> 00:09:34,770 you know, he's had things with cheerleaders and this obviously, 162 00:09:34,770 --> 00:09:37,110 I had to lay it all out so you can see it for the last while 163 00:09:37,110 --> 00:09:37,410 saying 164 00:09:38,610 --> 00:09:41,250 that's what I get these teams cheerleaders. Of course, that 165 00:09:41,250 --> 00:09:41,700 makes sense. 166 00:09:41,700 --> 00:09:47,340 So Snyder says, I got dirt on all the owners. Here comes Bezos 167 00:09:47,340 --> 00:09:54,390 paper with a picture of Jerry Jones. Because if Bezos is going 168 00:09:54,390 --> 00:09:57,240 to buy a team, trust me, it would rather be the Dallas 169 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:02,430 Cowboys, which is the preeminent sports team up all teams, not 170 00:10:02,430 --> 00:10:04,650 just football, oh, all teams, 171 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:06,720 if you want to be royalty, you might as well go straight to 172 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,060 the, to the top of the pack. Right. 173 00:10:09,060 --> 00:10:13,680 And Jerry Jones is the king of the NFL. So let's I'm laying it 174 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:17,460 all out and how this all this quote unquote what I call an 175 00:10:17,460 --> 00:10:21,900 attack happened. But we got to understand the history behind 176 00:10:21,900 --> 00:10:26,640 why that photo was so triggering to some people while it was 177 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,450 used. You know, like I said, I just find it funny that Jerry 178 00:10:30,450 --> 00:10:33,840 Jones actually sat down with the Washington Post voluntarily, and 179 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,930 did this whole you know, about black ownership in the NFL, you 180 00:10:36,930 --> 00:10:40,110 know, you know, racing sports kind of thing, and they double 181 00:10:40,110 --> 00:10:41,970 crossed him with this photo. 182 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,690 Jerry Jones, his faceful was North Little Rock, which was 183 00:10:45,690 --> 00:10:49,260 across the Arkansas River from Central High School, which is 184 00:10:49,260 --> 00:10:52,950 the school that got all of the attention. When Eisenhower sent 185 00:10:52,950 --> 00:10:56,430 in federal troops to protect the Little Rock Nine at that school 186 00:10:56,430 --> 00:10:59,160 over there. But the segregationist agitators were 187 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,450 actually very active on both sites. And the fact that we knew 188 00:11:03,450 --> 00:11:07,590 that generationally, Jerry Jones had to have experienced the 189 00:11:07,590 --> 00:11:10,590 events in Little Rock more generally, but to find him in 190 00:11:10,590 --> 00:11:13,350 the photograph, and to learn that he experienced one of those 191 00:11:13,350 --> 00:11:16,110 incidents, right on the schoolhouse steps, was pretty 192 00:11:16,110 --> 00:11:19,980 revelatory. We were blown away, to put it mildly. 193 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,930 Let me ask you about this picture just quickly here, 194 00:11:21,930 --> 00:11:23,970 because he is saying he's using thing you know, I was just 195 00:11:23,970 --> 00:11:26,880 there. I wasn't participating. I was there just sort of to 196 00:11:26,910 --> 00:11:31,860 observe. But the with the photograph with you guys, as you 197 00:11:31,860 --> 00:11:34,260 point out in your reporting, is that in order to get where he 198 00:11:34,260 --> 00:11:36,240 was at the top of those stairs, that he had to get up there 199 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,820 pretty quickly, and those were sort of the students that were 200 00:11:38,970 --> 00:11:43,470 keeping the black students from entering? Does it say anything 201 00:11:43,470 --> 00:11:46,470 about his participation? Are you making any sort of judgment 202 00:11:46,470 --> 00:11:47,370 about it? Or 203 00:11:47,670 --> 00:11:49,980 let me let me make a little judgment first, I'm looking at 204 00:11:49,980 --> 00:11:52,530 this picture. I'm looking at this picture. He looks like a 205 00:11:52,530 --> 00:11:55,440 doofus standing in the back like hey, what's going on here? 206 00:11:55,860 --> 00:11:59,100 Doesn't he's not at the front. He's not the guy at the front 207 00:11:59,100 --> 00:12:00,660 looks like a mean mofo. 208 00:12:01,740 --> 00:12:04,740 Well, he was he was a young, younger player in high school. 209 00:12:05,190 --> 00:12:09,690 So that's one thing. But I'm just saying that it's not Yeah, 210 00:12:09,690 --> 00:12:12,240 it's not important. The important The important thing is 211 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:17,460 he's there in Arkansas in 1957. When you know what happened in 212 00:12:17,460 --> 00:12:21,120 57, all across town at the other high school. That's when they 213 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,750 had, you know, forcing kids into I think it's called Central 214 00:12:24,750 --> 00:12:27,780 High, if I'm not mistaken. Yes, Central High. So he's over at 215 00:12:27,780 --> 00:12:30,360 this other school. And they're like, hey, look, Jerry Jones was 216 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,760 doing the same thing that's happened over Central High at 217 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,840 his high school, which puts pressure on him into the 218 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,430 interjects race into the conversation, which they want 219 00:12:41,430 --> 00:12:44,370 Jerry Jones out of there. And it's like I said, and I'm 220 00:12:44,370 --> 00:12:48,780 thinking this is just my cow. Look at it Washington Post Bezos 221 00:12:48,780 --> 00:12:52,980 trying to buy a team. I don't really want Washington's team 222 00:12:52,980 --> 00:12:55,350 because like you said, you got to deal with the politicians in 223 00:12:55,350 --> 00:12:57,390 Washington. Yeah. You know, where we want to have the 224 00:12:57,390 --> 00:12:59,010 stadium this has been the Snyder has 225 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,530 the name is probably you know, they had the Redskins they 226 00:13:01,530 --> 00:13:04,170 change it to the what does it command man? There's so many 227 00:13:04,170 --> 00:13:06,450 things the city name, you know, it's like, Who wants a team with 228 00:13:06,540 --> 00:13:09,270 everyone thinks you're gonna think Washington Redskins for 229 00:13:09,300 --> 00:13:11,700 the rest of that we're I would, I can't ever think of them as 230 00:13:11,700 --> 00:13:12,390 commanders. 231 00:13:13,590 --> 00:13:17,040 I totally agree. But I'm just telling you, this is the setup. 232 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,150 And when I saw this, I was like, on Thanksgiving Day. And, you 233 00:13:21,150 --> 00:13:25,950 know, because yeah, so this is the whole setup. So you kind of 234 00:13:25,950 --> 00:13:27,450 see what's going down here. Yeah. 235 00:13:28,500 --> 00:13:31,110 Wow, this is great reporting. We got this picture. This is 236 00:13:31,110 --> 00:13:35,550 fantastic. By the way, general observation. The white students 237 00:13:35,550 --> 00:13:40,200 here, they all got blue jeans on and the black students are just 238 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,890 dressed to the T in this. It's just just a general observation. 239 00:13:44,489 --> 00:13:47,189 That's makes me think about what you say when you say about 240 00:13:47,189 --> 00:13:49,199 coming over when you had Yes, 241 00:13:49,230 --> 00:13:51,570 yes, yes, exactly. Yeah, 242 00:13:51,660 --> 00:13:55,380 you have to dress to impress, you have to look the part. That 243 00:13:55,380 --> 00:13:58,950 was that was the main thing. So now we're gonna get into Jerry 244 00:13:58,950 --> 00:14:02,580 Jones response and that attack, quote, unquote, when I say 245 00:14:02,580 --> 00:14:08,040 attack, I'm talking about the strategic plan to put him on the 246 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,070 hot seat on his day. I mean, like Thanksgiving Day as his 247 00:14:11,070 --> 00:14:15,570 Christmas, it because he used to put his big stadium or showcase 248 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,590 America's team or showcase. And he asked to answer questions 249 00:14:19,590 --> 00:14:23,880 like this. And clip for Jerry. It's also 250 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,420 in the Washington Post article in how the picture they paint a 251 00:14:27,420 --> 00:14:29,010 view from a picture 252 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:36,450 when you were 14 years old, yeah. That was, gosh, 6065 years 253 00:14:36,450 --> 00:14:47,760 ago and curious kid didn't know at the time the monumental event 254 00:14:47,790 --> 00:14:54,120 really that was that was going on, and I'm sure glad that we're 255 00:14:54,150 --> 00:14:59,790 a long way from that. I am. And we just would that would remind 256 00:14:59,790 --> 00:15:05,910 me He just continued to do everything we can to not have 257 00:15:05,910 --> 00:15:07,200 those kinds of things happen 258 00:15:07,230 --> 00:15:10,710 in your grids just being in the photo being there at all. Any 259 00:15:10,710 --> 00:15:13,110 regrets on being in the photo being there at all? 260 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,280 Well, I didn't know. I wouldn't have just dug that up, for sure. 261 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:22,800 And seriously, but that was curiously, I got criticized 262 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,470 because I was more interested in how I was going to be punished 263 00:15:25,890 --> 00:15:29,460 by my coaches and everybody for being out front. But nobody 264 00:15:29,460 --> 00:15:35,250 there had any idea, frankly, what was going to take place? 265 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,890 You didn't. We didn't have all the last 70 years of reference 266 00:15:40,890 --> 00:15:44,370 and all the things that were going on, and so you didn't have 267 00:15:44,370 --> 00:15:49,080 a reference point. They're still up. I've got a habit of sticking 268 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,930 his nose to my place at the wrong time. 269 00:15:52,050 --> 00:15:55,170 Ooh, Mr. Jones, you have no idea what's coming down the pike. 270 00:15:55,170 --> 00:16:00,990 Clearly. He had no idea. What is he separated from reality? 271 00:16:01,410 --> 00:16:06,360 No, he has a lot of protectors in the media. Because he is like 272 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,890 I said the king of the NFL. Yeah. And NFL is the king of all 273 00:16:10,890 --> 00:16:14,190 television shows in America. No doubt. Would you agree? I mean, 274 00:16:14,190 --> 00:16:14,670 okay, so 275 00:16:15,660 --> 00:16:19,350 not yet enough for me. Yes, because I, I always watch the 276 00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:22,560 Super Bowl. So right there. It's just a media event. I love how 277 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,200 it's I love how it's put together. I will say I also 278 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,310 watch a good bit of soccer. I do like the soccer. But when it 279 00:16:29,310 --> 00:16:32,490 comes to American television made for the commercials 280 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:33,720 football is your game. 281 00:16:34,170 --> 00:16:37,380 That and that's the point is is not like basketball is constant 282 00:16:37,380 --> 00:16:40,770 flowing. You could stop the game anytime you want to is great. 283 00:16:41,010 --> 00:16:45,180 It's great for advertisement. And it's like I said, it's in 284 00:16:45,180 --> 00:16:48,960 our tradition, even with the imagery and you know that we got 285 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,760 to get to lighter. Um, and you know, with the whole race thing 286 00:16:54,210 --> 00:16:57,690 is sitting down with your grandfather, your fathers, your 287 00:16:57,690 --> 00:17:02,130 brothers, your uncle's watching the game. I think I bought I 288 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:02,430 think I 289 00:17:02,910 --> 00:17:05,370 think I've mentioned this before, but when I was growing 290 00:17:05,370 --> 00:17:08,280 up in the Netherlands, you know, that you couldn't get obviously 291 00:17:08,310 --> 00:17:11,850 EMEA, there's two channels, they were not going to show football, 292 00:17:12,750 --> 00:17:16,950 the Americans, the American Women's Club of Amsterdam, the 293 00:17:16,950 --> 00:17:20,670 which is just a data library and other things. They had Game of 294 00:17:20,670 --> 00:17:24,120 the Week, brought to you by American Express, and they'd 295 00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:27,570 have done that. And it was on film. And my dad and I would go 296 00:17:27,870 --> 00:17:30,510 on, I don't know, maybe Monday night or Tuesday night, and we 297 00:17:30,510 --> 00:17:34,050 go watch the highlight reel that was sent from America. And I 298 00:17:34,050 --> 00:17:37,470 remember thinking like, was so cool, because they had snow, 299 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,610 snow games, and drying, they do the slow mo and I just be like, 300 00:17:41,610 --> 00:17:44,910 Wow, this is so amazing. It wasn't I didn't understand much 301 00:17:44,910 --> 00:17:48,510 of the game really. At the time. I was very young. But I remember 302 00:17:48,510 --> 00:17:51,240 how impactful that was. And it just it was a cool thing to 303 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:51,870 watch. 304 00:17:52,170 --> 00:17:57,270 It's the way it's shot. Yeah, NFL has hundreds of cameras. 305 00:17:57,270 --> 00:18:02,160 Yeah, one game getting every angle. And now we fast forward 306 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,580 to introducing the modern day. I mean, you they're tracking the 307 00:18:05,580 --> 00:18:08,880 balding answers in the ball. Tell me how I got fast guys are 308 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,850 running. Yeah. What's the odds of them making plays? And this 309 00:18:11,850 --> 00:18:15,810 and that. And And speaking of eyes, it's a huge gambling 310 00:18:15,810 --> 00:18:19,950 sport. Yes. Which is gambling. If you have if you watch TV now, 311 00:18:20,250 --> 00:18:25,470 you see gambling is wide open. Um, and you know, across the 312 00:18:25,470 --> 00:18:27,900 United States, I think there's some states that don't allow 313 00:18:27,900 --> 00:18:31,260 gambling, but for the most part, gambling has been a huge part 314 00:18:31,260 --> 00:18:35,010 of, you know, the growth of sports. We'd like to start in 315 00:18:35,010 --> 00:18:35,580 with fantasy 316 00:18:35,609 --> 00:18:38,069 sports betting is what we prefer to say, well, we don't like 317 00:18:38,069 --> 00:18:44,609 saying gambling and sports betting. Okay. Before 318 00:18:46,319 --> 00:18:51,059 I get you politically correct, yeah. But yeah, so this is this 319 00:18:51,059 --> 00:18:54,509 is, this is sports and the fact like I said he had to answer 320 00:18:54,509 --> 00:18:58,589 these questions after his cowboys had ticket centerstage 321 00:18:58,589 --> 00:19:00,929 on Thanksgiving, instead of talking about well, he likes to 322 00:19:00,929 --> 00:19:05,579 talk about the Cowboys. And he's had run ins with race because 323 00:19:05,579 --> 00:19:09,209 when the whole Kaepernick take a knee thing, he told his players 324 00:19:09,209 --> 00:19:12,209 we're gonna do what's best for business. We're gonna make a 325 00:19:12,209 --> 00:19:16,499 business decision here. Right, and we're in the show you just 326 00:19:16,499 --> 00:19:21,989 the force of Kaepernick, he even had to come out and make a pivot 327 00:19:22,349 --> 00:19:27,269 to take a knee with his players. And that kind of like, showed 328 00:19:27,269 --> 00:19:31,019 the force of Nike and all these other forces that was trying to 329 00:19:31,019 --> 00:19:34,859 take out in the NFL. Right, right. So I guess we can go and 330 00:19:34,859 --> 00:19:39,269 get to the second part of him being interrogated. Part Two. 331 00:19:39,779 --> 00:19:42,929 Did you get did you get in trouble with your coach or being 332 00:19:42,989 --> 00:19:45,659 ushered in? What was the punishment? Well, 333 00:19:46,559 --> 00:19:51,539 you know, I was young sophomore trying to make the team and they 334 00:19:51,539 --> 00:19:52,439 kicked my ass, 335 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:56,909 Gary, Gary, he came up to Little Rock situation, and Little Rock 336 00:19:56,909 --> 00:20:00,509 Central. All right. That photo on there An incident 337 00:20:01,740 --> 00:20:02,610 excuse me that 338 00:20:02,970 --> 00:20:05,340 came after the situation in Little Rock Central. 339 00:20:06,329 --> 00:20:09,569 Well, that was North Little Rock Ranch was literally just two or 340 00:20:09,569 --> 00:20:12,149 three miles away. It wasn't the same day A Little Rock Central 341 00:20:12,149 --> 00:20:16,319 that came when, as I recall, as I recall, it was certainly in 342 00:20:16,319 --> 00:20:23,219 proximity with it. Those were certainly the issues that were 343 00:20:23,219 --> 00:20:30,809 going on, but did not have the structure that was not the event 344 00:20:30,809 --> 00:20:31,649 at the central thing. 345 00:20:32,190 --> 00:20:34,530 Oh, that's interesting. I think now he's figured it out in this 346 00:20:34,530 --> 00:20:38,730 interview was like, Oh, they got something here. That's tread 347 00:20:38,730 --> 00:20:39,870 lightly. Yeah. 348 00:20:40,410 --> 00:20:43,710 And speaking of treading lightly notice the reporters are trading 349 00:20:43,710 --> 00:20:48,000 light. Because you're talking to a guy that can get you sick or 350 00:20:48,030 --> 00:20:50,160 sent you to the covering stadium. 351 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:50,850 Yeah, go ahead, go 352 00:20:50,850 --> 00:20:54,810 cover No, no, not kick. You have you covered water polo in 353 00:20:54,810 --> 00:21:00,570 Siberia somewhere. If you step on the wrong thing, and Jerry 354 00:21:00,570 --> 00:21:04,320 Jones had a lot of people come out and protect him. You know, 355 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,590 after the fallout happened, one being Steven a Smith. And I 356 00:21:07,590 --> 00:21:09,960 could have went that way in the show. But I really didn't want 357 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,710 to go to I want to understand people to understand how this 358 00:21:13,710 --> 00:21:19,020 attack word. I mean, the mechanics of it. Like, like, now 359 00:21:19,020 --> 00:21:22,320 when he's bringing us Central High even you notice like, oh, 360 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,490 okay, yeah, by this is bigger than just me being over my high 361 00:21:26,490 --> 00:21:31,350 school. You're trying to make me the face of racism in the south 362 00:21:31,530 --> 00:21:32,880 in the 1950s. 363 00:21:32,910 --> 00:21:36,060 And so again, the premise here is that this is a targeted 364 00:21:36,060 --> 00:21:40,800 attack by Bezos owner of The Washington Post who wants to own 365 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,190 a team and met with that as the backdrop this is already, you 366 00:21:44,190 --> 00:21:47,700 know, clip five, I'm already outraged what's going on? That's 367 00:21:47,700 --> 00:21:48,150 crazy. 368 00:21:49,529 --> 00:21:52,079 So I just I just want I just want to lay that out for people. 369 00:21:52,109 --> 00:21:57,209 And like I said, he has noted for Jerry Gerald, because he has 370 00:21:57,209 --> 00:22:04,829 the, the money and the power to protect himself. But I, like I 371 00:22:04,829 --> 00:22:08,039 said, always want to look at what the plays like. Why is this 372 00:22:08,039 --> 00:22:10,349 happening? Why is it happening now? Oh, the Washington Post. 373 00:22:10,349 --> 00:22:14,009 That's interesting. And you see a little nuggets, all Jay Z and 374 00:22:14,009 --> 00:22:17,309 Bezos trying to buy a team. And what I tried to do is connect 375 00:22:17,339 --> 00:22:20,849 all this together one more thing, before we move on. Notice 376 00:22:20,849 --> 00:22:24,179 his coaches that got he got in trouble with his coaches kicked 377 00:22:24,179 --> 00:22:29,609 his. Yeah. Why would he get in trouble with his coaches? Who 378 00:22:29,639 --> 00:22:34,619 were asking that question later? Yeah, because coaches are trying 379 00:22:34,619 --> 00:22:38,069 to get the best talent. I'm just gonna leave it there. They're 380 00:22:38,069 --> 00:22:40,559 trying to get the best talent no matter where it comes from. 381 00:22:40,739 --> 00:22:45,509 Haha. I got you. And maybe that's why the players were up 382 00:22:45,509 --> 00:22:48,449 there protesting because they felt there some better flowers 383 00:22:48,449 --> 00:22:53,339 were coming in. Yeah, exactly. So the reporters went a little 384 00:22:53,339 --> 00:22:56,609 too far in this next clip. And I want you to just to pick up when 385 00:22:56,609 --> 00:22:58,049 a billionaire has had enough 386 00:22:58,799 --> 00:23:01,019 to do you understand the perception that people have 387 00:23:01,109 --> 00:23:03,389 standing there? Because that was not exactly a welcoming 388 00:23:03,389 --> 00:23:03,749 committee 389 00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:11,340 that? I sure do. And I'm understanding that. Just 390 00:23:11,340 --> 00:23:12,810 understand it. Yes. 391 00:23:13,380 --> 00:23:15,930 So for the people that look at that and say you were a part of 392 00:23:15,930 --> 00:23:18,870 that. And you're saying you were curious. And other people were 393 00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:23,160 saying, Well, this was a crowd, basically, you know, look, look, 394 00:23:23,910 --> 00:23:27,450 left six, five years ago, right down, and I had no idea would 395 00:23:27,450 --> 00:23:34,590 have walked up there what we were doing. And it just is a 396 00:23:34,590 --> 00:23:40,110 reminder to me of have improved and do things the right way. 397 00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:44,070 So what did you think of the crowd who these kids were just 398 00:23:44,070 --> 00:23:45,810 trying to go to school? There's a whole lot of people that have 399 00:23:45,810 --> 00:23:47,370 a lot of hostility towards us. 400 00:23:47,519 --> 00:23:52,049 Yeah. Were you want to ask me what I was thinking? Okay, I was 401 00:23:52,049 --> 00:23:56,009 thinking about, I won't get in trouble for being up here. And I 402 00:23:56,009 --> 00:24:00,419 didn't know what was going on. And I was 15 years old. And so 403 00:24:00,419 --> 00:24:04,289 having said that, that's, that's that's all that I can remember. 404 00:24:04,409 --> 00:24:04,829 Okay. 405 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,780 I gotta say something about this in the picture. This picture 406 00:24:09,810 --> 00:24:13,140 though, it's from every all of you, because you're seeing 407 00:24:13,140 --> 00:24:16,410 cameras behind cameras in front, it's an elevated shot from 408 00:24:16,410 --> 00:24:20,130 above. This thing reminds me because a picture is just a 409 00:24:20,130 --> 00:24:24,300 moment in time. Right? Right. And you can, you can make up any 410 00:24:24,300 --> 00:24:27,090 story you want. And when I see this picture, black and white, 411 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,330 for some reason, the time of course, the quality of the 412 00:24:30,330 --> 00:24:35,670 photo. It reminds me of Jack Ruby shooting Harvey Oswald 413 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:42,179 in like in your I'm glad you picked up on that because these 414 00:24:42,179 --> 00:24:45,839 weren't his kids that showed up and say, hey, I want to go to 415 00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:49,469 your high school. No, this goes all the way back to Brown versus 416 00:24:49,469 --> 00:24:52,409 Board of Education. We talked about that on a previous show, 417 00:24:52,649 --> 00:24:55,349 and how all that was orchestrated the right kids were 418 00:24:55,349 --> 00:24:58,829 selected the right case, the right place. This was just a 419 00:24:58,829 --> 00:25:02,879 continuation of that. it and I believe this was a, you know, a 420 00:25:02,879 --> 00:25:06,539 dry ruin. But what was going to happen over Central High? 421 00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:10,409 Okay, yeah. And well, again, coincidence that this, this is 422 00:25:10,409 --> 00:25:12,659 different from all the press that is standing, this is from 423 00:25:12,659 --> 00:25:16,199 above and the top, it's showing everything you'd want to see to 424 00:25:16,199 --> 00:25:18,329 build this story. Interesting. Interesting. 425 00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:23,310 And where did this picture come from? I mean, you know, that's 426 00:25:23,310 --> 00:25:26,520 the that's the real question that nobody really answered. Is, 427 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,180 did Daniel Smith, is this someone that dirt? And I have no 428 00:25:30,180 --> 00:25:33,150 answer this question I'm about to ask. But I have to ask it. 429 00:25:33,390 --> 00:25:37,560 Did Daniel Snyder have access to this picture? And Barter is 430 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,580 like, Hey, I got a bigger fish for you. You know, if you don't 431 00:25:41,580 --> 00:25:48,120 want to buy my team. Bezos is like who much rather have the 432 00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:51,480 preeminent team, then all the team with all the political 433 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,390 baggage and problems? Yeah, right. They come with it. And 434 00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:56,970 this last day of Schneider live, they were saying to see another 435 00:25:56,970 --> 00:26:00,930 day. I'm just I'm just laying it out there. But what we got to do 436 00:26:00,930 --> 00:26:04,650 now is get the background of the picture, we're going to these 437 00:26:04,650 --> 00:26:08,460 next few clips will contextualize the environment of 438 00:26:08,460 --> 00:26:12,990 what was going on in little Little Rock, Arkansas in 1957. 439 00:26:13,260 --> 00:26:18,120 So this is a history report History Channel report. And this 440 00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:21,180 is Ernest Green, one of the class of 58, a black one, the 441 00:26:21,180 --> 00:26:23,520 black students speaking helmets, 442 00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:26,699 an event that forever altered the course of race relations in 443 00:26:26,699 --> 00:26:31,379 America. As our image reveals itself, the 1957 school year is 444 00:26:31,379 --> 00:26:35,309 about to begin. And an angry mob is trying to stop nine black 445 00:26:35,309 --> 00:26:39,029 students from entering Central High in Little Rock, Arkansas. 446 00:26:47,970 --> 00:26:53,790 Question I usually get asked is, where are we scared? I think 447 00:26:53,790 --> 00:26:59,430 initially, we didn't anticipate clearly all of the violence and 448 00:26:59,430 --> 00:27:05,310 turmoil that occurred. First day that we attempted to go to 449 00:27:05,310 --> 00:27:09,870 school, eight of us were at one part of the school and Elizabeth 450 00:27:09,870 --> 00:27:13,770 Eckford was another part. And there was a mob that followed 451 00:27:13,770 --> 00:27:20,250 Elizabeth then you began to feel that this was a very hostile 452 00:27:20,250 --> 00:27:28,530 violent group of people. Even at that point, I told myself that 453 00:27:28,530 --> 00:27:33,480 if we didn't go through with it didn't attend Central and backed 454 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,880 out. It would just reinforce the view that the African American 455 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,410 community and Little Rock wasn't interested and making a change 456 00:27:43,410 --> 00:27:43,980 in things. 457 00:27:48,450 --> 00:27:49,950 Highlighted trauma bass music, 458 00:27:50,069 --> 00:27:53,189 yep. Very good. Where's that? Where's that from 459 00:27:53,250 --> 00:27:54,060 History Channel. 460 00:27:54,089 --> 00:27:58,289 Now? Of course, hello. William P straighter. Was the photographer 461 00:27:58,289 --> 00:27:58,949 apparently. 462 00:27:59,700 --> 00:28:00,990 Okay. Um, 463 00:28:01,049 --> 00:28:03,899 I don't know if I can find that. It has no real information on 464 00:28:03,899 --> 00:28:09,389 him. But yeah, you're fine. He was Associated Press. He was an 465 00:28:09,389 --> 00:28:11,309 AP reporter. Interesting. 466 00:28:12,089 --> 00:28:17,879 Yeah. So so now we got this set up. We have the essential, the 467 00:28:17,879 --> 00:28:21,239 Little Rock Nine. And like I said, one of the ones got 468 00:28:21,239 --> 00:28:25,469 separated and one in eight. And they got together, they finally 469 00:28:25,469 --> 00:28:28,619 mates together. And this is what this is what they met, trying to 470 00:28:28,619 --> 00:28:31,169 get into school. So you want to continue on and the question is, 471 00:28:31,169 --> 00:28:32,099 yeah, no, no, no, 472 00:28:32,099 --> 00:28:34,799 I'm good. Let's keep rolling. I got the next few traumatized. 473 00:28:34,829 --> 00:28:37,799 Yeah. All right, traumatize me people. 474 00:28:40,259 --> 00:28:45,959 Nice. During the 1950s African Americans throughout the country 475 00:28:45,959 --> 00:28:54,959 were trying to make their voices heard. We've Alabama, now 476 00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:00,390 and will continue to carry on our mass protests. To drive 477 00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:05,190 demand that I get to see the fight man didn't do that I was 478 00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:08,190 being treated as a human being I refuse to give up this 479 00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:15,420 little rock was a year after the Montgomery bus boycott. So we 480 00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:22,080 had seen the impact of Rosa Parks and the beginning of Dr. 481 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,010 King's Korea and knew that things could change. 482 00:29:34,170 --> 00:29:37,860 Man, that's some good trauma music. That's a great man. 483 00:29:38,339 --> 00:29:42,959 They had all the triggers in their MLK yo, Rosa Parks, which 484 00:29:42,959 --> 00:29:47,639 we spoke about. We spoke about Rosa Parks and the whole of that 485 00:29:47,639 --> 00:29:48,929 she was in Tennessee. 486 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,350 Yeah, there was a she was a Hollywood version of the real 487 00:29:52,350 --> 00:29:52,770 thing. 488 00:29:53,339 --> 00:29:57,059 Well, and speaking of which, we're not gonna go too far down 489 00:29:57,059 --> 00:30:01,589 for down too far down this rabbit hole. But yeh got himself 490 00:30:01,589 --> 00:30:04,559 in some trouble other than what he was already 491 00:30:05,849 --> 00:30:07,769 telling me he got in some trouble I hadn't heard about 492 00:30:07,769 --> 00:30:08,909 that and you had to bring Yeah. 493 00:30:10,259 --> 00:30:14,669 Reporting thing but he he made a statement saying he rose apart 494 00:30:14,669 --> 00:30:21,449 was a plant which Yes, yes. How kya it says it you're saying can 495 00:30:21,449 --> 00:30:24,809 be very triggering but we talked about this in her relationship 496 00:30:25,019 --> 00:30:30,239 with her I forget the family's name, but it went back to Hugo 497 00:30:30,239 --> 00:30:34,649 Black, who was a Supreme Court justice and the lawyer that were 498 00:30:34,649 --> 00:30:38,339 behind her so yeah, if you're listening just don't be a 499 00:30:38,339 --> 00:30:39,719 deadbeat brother you will say like 500 00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:44,910 I was so bad with yeas comment that I saw articles appearing 501 00:30:44,910 --> 00:30:47,910 reaffirming how legit Rosa Parks was. 502 00:30:48,420 --> 00:30:53,130 Right and it's it I would like to give a big shout out to Elvis 503 00:30:53,130 --> 00:30:57,180 to the shelf Rosenberg because he gave a consistent producer on 504 00:30:57,180 --> 00:31:01,140 the show. He actually was sending people to our to the 505 00:31:01,140 --> 00:31:04,680 show we did dream machine, but you need to watch the comments 506 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,620 section everywhere. And he gave us a big shout out on his show. 507 00:31:07,620 --> 00:31:10,020 So I just want to stop the show. You're saying thank you for 508 00:31:10,020 --> 00:31:13,050 promote promoting. What we're doing over 509 00:31:13,049 --> 00:31:15,449 here is and if anyone's interested, I'll put some links 510 00:31:15,449 --> 00:31:17,759 into Claudette Colvin, you might be interested in that. 511 00:31:18,269 --> 00:31:21,539 Right. So let's go ahead and wrap up with this, this trauma 512 00:31:21,539 --> 00:31:24,059 based entertainment as we call it with clip number three. 513 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,740 The first step for the Little Rock Nine came in May 1954, when 514 00:31:31,740 --> 00:31:35,040 the US Supreme Court issued its opinion in the landmark case, 515 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:40,230 Brown versus the Topeka, Kansas Board of Education. Separate but 516 00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:44,970 equal was inherently unequal. And integration was now the law 517 00:31:44,970 --> 00:31:51,000 of the land. In 1957, this decision and the power of the 518 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,300 federal government were tested in Little Rock, Arkansas. 519 00:31:55,740 --> 00:31:59,520 We didn't at the moment we were selected, have any idea was 520 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,710 going to be as difficult as it turned out to be 521 00:32:02,940 --> 00:32:05,580 in the face of protest at Central High School, the 522 00:32:05,580 --> 00:32:09,300 governor of Arkansas, Orville faultless calls out the National 523 00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:13,050 Guard. His official reasoning is to preserve the peace and 524 00:32:13,050 --> 00:32:14,070 prevent violence. 525 00:32:16,259 --> 00:32:19,889 It wasn't clearly wasn't to protect us, it was to make a 526 00:32:19,889 --> 00:32:24,119 symbolic stand. It was to protect the way of life in the 527 00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:26,759 south, because they borrowed I entrance. 528 00:32:29,220 --> 00:32:32,880 Alright, so now you see it's a bigger play going on. Yeah, and 529 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,890 this is how they use special interest groups, race being the 530 00:32:37,890 --> 00:32:43,980 one here, less use controversy to make bigger change. And this 531 00:32:43,980 --> 00:32:46,980 was really about state rights, what the federal government 532 00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:50,940 could tell states, right, that was the bigger play, but they 533 00:32:50,940 --> 00:32:56,580 use, quote unquote, black people as the battering ram to, you 534 00:32:56,580 --> 00:33:00,120 know, force their way into the schools. So the state, the 535 00:33:00,150 --> 00:33:03,810 federal government could stretch their power. Now, when you're 536 00:33:03,810 --> 00:33:05,130 saying and events that power 537 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,040 when you say they who are you referring to, in this case, 538 00:33:09,329 --> 00:33:15,779 the NAACP. And that was one of the big groups that was backing 539 00:33:15,779 --> 00:33:20,189 now the Little Rock Nine, and these other liberal operations 540 00:33:20,909 --> 00:33:26,399 that wanted to see the federal government gaining power. So I'm 541 00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:29,579 gonna do it. Now that you asked that question. I'm going to do a 542 00:33:29,579 --> 00:33:33,599 quick change on the fly. Let's listen to 11 first, because 543 00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:37,409 that's as your Orval Faubus, the governor of Arkansas, and he's 544 00:33:37,409 --> 00:33:39,899 gonna go more into the state REITs and then we'll come back 545 00:33:39,899 --> 00:33:40,409 to 10 546 00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:49,259 Central. Hi, we are now an occupied territory. Evidence of 547 00:33:49,259 --> 00:33:55,319 the nekkid force of the federal government is here apparent in 548 00:33:55,319 --> 00:34:00,719 these and unsheath bayonets in the backs of school girls, in 549 00:34:00,719 --> 00:34:05,519 the back of students, and in the bloody face of this railroad 550 00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:10,409 worker, who was bayoneted and then fell by the bed of a rifle 551 00:34:10,889 --> 00:34:15,809 in the hands of a sergeant of the United States, a 101st 552 00:34:16,289 --> 00:34:21,839 Airborne Division. That can be no question of the supremacy of 553 00:34:21,839 --> 00:34:25,199 the United States Army, when used against a defenseless 554 00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:30,659 state. Therefore, we must continue our peaceful pursuits 555 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:35,759 of life, being good citizens, as the overwhelming majority of our 556 00:34:35,759 --> 00:34:40,019 people have always been. I have been working in fighting for the 557 00:34:40,019 --> 00:34:44,039 right of my people to solve their problems peacefully. This 558 00:34:44,039 --> 00:34:49,439 as we know requires time and patience. I shall continue on 559 00:34:49,439 --> 00:34:51,839 relentlessly on this course. 560 00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:54,300 That was at the National Guard who did that. 561 00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:57,600 Yes, okay. Yeah, it's messed up. 562 00:34:58,380 --> 00:35:03,750 Right. So This was a response school immigration was a 563 00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:07,710 response to, quote unquote, black people asking for a 564 00:35:07,710 --> 00:35:10,920 separate but equal. It's like if you got to school, we want an 565 00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:15,510 identical school, you have x this edition of a book, we want 566 00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:18,750 that additional book, you know, same resources, right? It wasn't 567 00:35:18,750 --> 00:35:24,030 the be forced together. Because one able to do was really and I 568 00:35:24,030 --> 00:35:25,920 got some clips to show that we talked about it before on the 569 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,030 show. To back up my claim. My father was one of those people. 570 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:35,820 I've talked about this before that, um, he was actually, I 571 00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:38,520 guess you would call it bus because it went bust when he was 572 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,430 forced to go to integrate school his senior year high school. 573 00:35:41,550 --> 00:35:45,090 Yeah. Imagine he and Kamala Harris, they both had to do 574 00:35:45,090 --> 00:35:45,570 that. Right. 575 00:35:45,660 --> 00:35:52,050 Right. And but the thing was, is my dad wasn't going forward. He 576 00:35:52,050 --> 00:35:55,620 wasn't with his hands. He went with his hands elected student. 577 00:35:55,620 --> 00:35:59,070 And this is no slight at the people that were selected. But 578 00:35:59,070 --> 00:36:01,140 of course, they are selected people with a certain 579 00:36:01,140 --> 00:36:05,880 disposition to be that could be spat on and not hit back to you 580 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,240 know, they got they got violence and abuse, 581 00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:12,990 they got they, they audition them without them knowing it. 582 00:36:13,590 --> 00:36:16,800 Correct. And you had to show the search correct temperament which 583 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,500 my father did not have the correct temperament because he 584 00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:24,600 was constantly getting into brawls at school. Yeah, 585 00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:27,150 I wonder if that was passed down to you at all? No, 586 00:36:27,150 --> 00:36:28,500 I wonder, I wonder. 587 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,200 No rebel hair. 588 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,750 I, the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree. But but at the 589 00:36:36,750 --> 00:36:39,630 same time, he was able to graduate, you know, but I'm just 590 00:36:39,630 --> 00:36:43,110 saying this is this was forced, and it's the force thing. So I 591 00:36:43,110 --> 00:36:46,890 have, we're gonna go back to 10 now, and we're gonna lose 592 00:36:46,890 --> 00:36:51,870 himself old, southern white man. Speak on what how he felt about 593 00:36:51,870 --> 00:36:52,890 the force integration. 594 00:36:54,180 --> 00:36:58,350 Do you think the Negro students ever will get in here? I think 595 00:36:58,350 --> 00:37:01,140 they'll get in here. But I don't know how long they'll lay up 596 00:37:01,140 --> 00:37:10,080 after they do get in here at Monash at Monash because they 597 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,190 cannot keep the police out here always hoping to get in and 598 00:37:14,190 --> 00:37:15,540 finish and you have to start with 599 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,570 or if the President brings in federal troops. 600 00:37:19,110 --> 00:37:22,170 I don't think the President has to be under the Constitution, 601 00:37:22,170 --> 00:37:25,080 the president has the authority to send in federal troops. And 602 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:30,390 last night, I asked that taking all of the state rights away 603 00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:33,750 from the States when they do I think like, that's only my 604 00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:34,260 opinion. 605 00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:37,260 Yeah, very appropriate for today. 606 00:37:38,370 --> 00:37:43,530 Yeah, and that's we've seen more and more, as we talked about 607 00:37:43,530 --> 00:37:47,280 before, and I said that a lot. But this covers a lot of the 608 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,390 things we talked about with you having red states and blue 609 00:37:51,390 --> 00:37:55,440 states. But if you didn't think make something a federal law, it 610 00:37:55,470 --> 00:37:59,910 supersedes what the states rights cover, which you see with 611 00:38:00,450 --> 00:38:03,510 Roe versus Wade dress well was a big deal when they say kick it 612 00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:07,530 back to the state, right? It's constitutional Exactly. Right. 613 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,810 They want to codify it to, you know, federal law. And we've 614 00:38:12,810 --> 00:38:16,650 seen that with the Marriage Act and those kinds of things. 615 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,770 And maybe just a quick reminder for people that the Constitution 616 00:38:19,770 --> 00:38:22,500 of the United States, many people don't know this or forget 617 00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:25,320 it. There's a lot of people not from America, listening to this 618 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:30,120 podcast. The constitution is literally a document, 619 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,560 particularly the Bill of Rights, all the amendments that that 620 00:38:34,590 --> 00:38:37,920 explains what the federal government is not allowed to do. 621 00:38:38,610 --> 00:38:41,160 What they're not they it's really a restriction for the 622 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,370 federal government. And if it's not expressly in the 623 00:38:44,370 --> 00:38:48,390 Constitution, it's all the state's business. And that, of 624 00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:52,080 course, has been inked. And this is 1957. We've encroached that 625 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,760 so far. It's so far from where it originally was. But that is 626 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,610 the original, the original deal of the Federation of the United 627 00:38:59,610 --> 00:39:00,150 States. 628 00:39:00,510 --> 00:39:03,900 Right. And that was the bigger play for the federal government 629 00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:07,590 to have your have overreach, where they were using black 630 00:39:07,590 --> 00:39:10,050 students as the battering ram. 631 00:39:10,110 --> 00:39:13,320 Oh, this is good. We've kept on that tip. 632 00:39:13,860 --> 00:39:16,890 We see that like, Now fast forward, we're seeing it more 633 00:39:16,890 --> 00:39:22,230 with the LGBT community. It's like, if you don't want drag 634 00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:25,680 queens, coming to your school and reading, you know, 635 00:39:25,890 --> 00:39:28,680 something's wrong with you. And people like, Oh, that's a little 636 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:33,540 bit too far for me. You know, I'm just showing you the same 637 00:39:33,540 --> 00:39:37,230 play then is the same play now. And we see the same thing happen 638 00:39:37,230 --> 00:39:40,740 with Jerry Jones. There's a bigger play, they play on your 639 00:39:40,740 --> 00:39:46,590 ratio, your ratio reflex to you know, to get emotional when you 640 00:39:46,590 --> 00:39:49,140 that's when you really need to start thinking it's like okay, 641 00:39:49,140 --> 00:39:51,990 be more critical. Like why do you want me to feel this way? 642 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,290 Why all of a sudden, you know, I thought this who surprised that 643 00:39:55,290 --> 00:39:59,160 Jerry Jones has some racist skeletons in his past man. Hey, 644 00:39:59,190 --> 00:40:04,440 you're old At his age, yes, coming from Arkansas, right. And 645 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,640 being raised around people like the last man speaking. You know, 646 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,980 he would like to say I don't I don't know how long ago we're 647 00:40:11,010 --> 00:40:15,390 gonna be here. They might get here and he's on camera, say me. 648 00:40:15,390 --> 00:40:19,050 So that just tells you how bold he is. But of course that didn't 649 00:40:19,050 --> 00:40:20,820 trigger now to the youth would Adam? 650 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,970 No, no kidding. 651 00:40:24,990 --> 00:40:25,920 Number 12 652 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,770 is all about. Well, certain groups have voiced their 653 00:40:28,770 --> 00:40:32,130 opinions that the school should be reopened even if it's on an 654 00:40:32,130 --> 00:40:35,040 integrated basis. And we just find that we still have the 655 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,100 majority of the people behind us back and forth on segregated 656 00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:59,610 school you'd rather keep the school closed and open or 657 00:40:59,610 --> 00:41:01,710 integrated right we're willing to leave them closed a little 658 00:41:01,710 --> 00:41:04,290 bit longer farmers can help us and we think he can you're 659 00:41:04,290 --> 00:41:06,690 putting everything on him? Yes. I'm getting most 660 00:41:06,690 --> 00:41:11,790 of the kids and all the high school Phyllis way. You think 661 00:41:11,790 --> 00:41:12,930 you can? Do you think you've been 662 00:41:15,210 --> 00:41:18,120 suppose suppose this were a long fight? Suppose it meant no 663 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,560 school for a year you still feel 664 00:41:25,290 --> 00:41:26,100 wow, 665 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,020 it wasn't just the old folks. 666 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,760 Now, what's interesting, though, and maybe we'll get to this is 667 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,270 how we've come around full circle to the upside down world 668 00:41:36,270 --> 00:41:40,260 where now we have you know, black groups requesting 669 00:41:40,260 --> 00:41:46,890 segregation, segregation, of of school of dormitory segregation 670 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,210 of all kinds of stuff. 671 00:41:49,050 --> 00:41:52,320 In what it is, is it's a perversion of separate but equal 672 00:41:52,350 --> 00:41:56,910 Yeah, is that we want to be in your university and that's great 673 00:41:56,910 --> 00:42:00,480 foreshadow for where we're headed. But is that we want to 674 00:42:00,690 --> 00:42:07,260 carve out a space and your institutions, and it's but it's 675 00:42:07,260 --> 00:42:10,830 not as equal but not separate. It's like we want to be embedded 676 00:42:10,890 --> 00:42:15,690 or equal. I mean, like it's a weird perversion. Oh, separate 677 00:42:15,690 --> 00:42:18,960 but equal, because we like we want to be over here. Y'all are 678 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,590 over there. If we interact, we interact but don't force us to 679 00:42:22,590 --> 00:42:27,480 be together because I'm gonna say it like this being was 680 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,510 apparent, man. There's no way you use my childhood test dummy, 681 00:42:30,750 --> 00:42:34,980 not happening. Now. If he came to me, Hey, you want your kid to 682 00:42:34,980 --> 00:42:39,660 be go right now? Rather than stay at the school where they're 683 00:42:39,660 --> 00:42:44,160 at, and not be emotionally abused and traumatize rather 684 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:49,380 than have some kind of symbolic victory? And I'm gonna tell you 685 00:42:49,380 --> 00:42:53,550 how far I just gotta get this get this one story out because 686 00:42:53,580 --> 00:42:59,160 this whole thing surrounded by my father and night he we were 687 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,130 in a place called spindle North Carolina, but we moved to 688 00:43:02,130 --> 00:43:05,190 Durham, North Carolina. And in Durham, North Carolina was 689 00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:13,290 Durham high. Durham high in 1959 was integrated. Oh, by Lou Lou 690 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,110 Hannon. No, no, no, excuse me. Let me make sure I get their 691 00:43:16,110 --> 00:43:19,770 name right put respetar name it was Jocelyn mystic McKissick and 692 00:43:19,770 --> 00:43:26,520 Clotet Bram was caught it That's a great name. Yeah, they want to 693 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:31,560 be a rebel. Yeah, um, but they were integrated. The urban 694 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:39,330 legend around Durham is they put see me in a Olympic sized 695 00:43:39,330 --> 00:43:43,050 swimming pool. Well, I Olympic depth, somewhat the same size 696 00:43:43,050 --> 00:43:46,950 but a professional type swimming pool they filled up with see me 697 00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:49,410 instead of letting black kids swimming, that's the urban 698 00:43:49,410 --> 00:43:57,660 legend. Now there is there is a picture of the swimming pool, 699 00:43:57,660 --> 00:43:59,970 but the swim pool ain't there no more. It's I don't know what 700 00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:02,070 happened to it. I don't know how you get rid of swimming pool, 701 00:44:02,070 --> 00:44:05,670 but I'm just telling you how these things have life are their 702 00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:10,740 own. And these stories carry on, you know, like, rather to swim 703 00:44:10,740 --> 00:44:13,800 with black kids, we'd rather not have a swimming pool. That was 704 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,630 the response to integration. Now going forward, we're gonna go 705 00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:21,900 back going forward, we gotta go back to the show. 51 that was 706 00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:25,440 civil wrongs. And this was the gentleman from Farmville 707 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,610 speaking on a black man. Speaking about how he wasn't too 708 00:44:29,610 --> 00:44:31,500 excited to be integrated himself. 709 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,030 When I first heard about integration and heard that may 710 00:44:36,030 --> 00:44:40,800 possibly one day be the you know, the way things would go. I 711 00:44:41,250 --> 00:44:45,870 had very mixed feelings about it. I was no more anxious to 712 00:44:45,870 --> 00:44:49,260 mingle with white people than I'm sure many of them were 713 00:44:49,290 --> 00:44:52,620 anxious to mingle with me. I felt the same reservations the 714 00:44:52,620 --> 00:44:57,930 same prejudices I guess I'm they may as well say that any of them 715 00:44:57,930 --> 00:45:02,520 felt you know. So I was not at all thrilled over the prospect. 716 00:45:03,210 --> 00:45:08,280 But as time went on, I began to realize that possibly this was, 717 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,660 after all, the only way that the terrible injustice is could be 718 00:45:12,660 --> 00:45:19,080 somewhat alleviated. And so more and more, I began to favor the 719 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,620 idea of integration. But I think many black people just decided 720 00:45:22,620 --> 00:45:25,110 they really didn't want any parts of white people, they 721 00:45:25,110 --> 00:45:28,830 would have preferred if it were, you know, I've often thought if 722 00:45:28,830 --> 00:45:34,260 separate but equal had been a reality you'd never had an 723 00:45:34,260 --> 00:45:35,220 integration struggle. 724 00:45:37,740 --> 00:45:41,400 Yeah, this was mo fax 51 If anyone's looking for the 725 00:45:41,550 --> 00:45:45,540 show, 51 That was our silver wrongs. So because that we 726 00:45:45,540 --> 00:45:49,110 talked about this before, but we have to go back revisit it 727 00:45:49,110 --> 00:45:54,300 because we are sick. This is this. What the spell was leaning 728 00:45:54,300 --> 00:45:58,110 upon that was casted is like, yeah, what's this trigger up? 729 00:45:58,110 --> 00:46:02,670 That's the Little Rock Nine, tie Jerry Jones to that. And maybe 730 00:46:02,670 --> 00:46:06,690 we can get some a wedge in there, to try to force him out 731 00:46:06,690 --> 00:46:12,840 of his out of his team. I'll put pressure on, you know, or, at 732 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,590 least, Bezos would gain more leverage in this situation. 733 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,010 Especially trying to buy a team with a quote unquote, black 734 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,330 owner being Jay Z. 735 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,630 And just just a quick thing on the, on the integration, and we 736 00:46:27,630 --> 00:46:30,480 probably talked about this, maybe even on 51, where I went 737 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,170 to college for exactly one semester, Salem, West Virginia. 738 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:39,210 And it was 50%, Black 50%, white. Most people from the East 739 00:46:39,210 --> 00:46:44,280 Coast, the kids are from mainly south Jersey. And I remember my 740 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,040 roommate, Ty Hamilton, I remember us both looking at each 741 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,060 other like, oh, okay, I didn't even know that he was black. He 742 00:46:51,060 --> 00:46:53,790 probably figured that maybe with a name like Adam, he didn't 743 00:46:53,790 --> 00:46:56,100 think that I would be white. But I remember that first day in the 744 00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:59,070 dorm room, like, Oh, hey. And of course, I wasn't white. I was 745 00:46:59,070 --> 00:47:01,830 from Holland because I pulled up my boombox and threw on some 746 00:47:01,830 --> 00:47:05,010 Shannon let the music play and we became friends. And that 747 00:47:05,010 --> 00:47:08,940 really connected us. But I felt, I definitely felt the tension. 748 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,600 And it was real from from both sides. But then once we 749 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:17,520 connected, it was I was welcomed equally by black and white 750 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,750 students and across the school. But I remember the tension. And 751 00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:25,110 that was 1982 or 83 years, something like that. 752 00:47:25,860 --> 00:47:29,580 And another thing that we had to factor in is that we had a lot 753 00:47:29,580 --> 00:47:34,320 of northerners coming now South not understanding the politics 754 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,620 of the South, right. And you have to live in the south to 755 00:47:37,620 --> 00:47:42,600 understand the racial politics of the South. It's a total 756 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,530 different experience from being raised anywhere else. Because 757 00:47:46,530 --> 00:47:51,090 maybe we're too dumb, or too too brave to leave black people that 758 00:47:51,090 --> 00:47:54,360 are self, you know, however you want to look at it, because 759 00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:58,260 you're not running me. I'm not, I come from a lot of people that 760 00:47:58,260 --> 00:48:01,080 didn't, and this is no disrespect to people that moon 761 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,020 door for better opportunities, I have failed me to do that. But 762 00:48:04,020 --> 00:48:07,800 the ones that stayed, we just have a different understanding 763 00:48:08,250 --> 00:48:12,540 of racial politics in the South. Even me being born in 1980. 764 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:19,680 There was just cuz I was raised by, you know, a black man was 765 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,120 born in 1951. Right, you know, that experience, Jim Crow, and 766 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,840 all these things. So, like I said, they come in and they 767 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,280 start pulling out these threads. But they don't understand the 768 00:48:32,310 --> 00:48:37,320 brunt of the force is going to end up on their, on the people 769 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,490 on there. I hate to use the word on their operators. I don't 770 00:48:41,490 --> 00:48:45,240 think of it unknowingly, unknowingly. They're not the 771 00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:47,580 ones gonna take the loan, it's gonna be the black students to 772 00:48:47,580 --> 00:48:51,660 take the loss in the trauma and the end. And no, I'm not for 773 00:48:51,660 --> 00:48:54,480 that. Like I said, I'll reiterate my point, there's no 774 00:48:54,480 --> 00:49:00,180 way in hell my kids would be taught man experiences some 775 00:49:00,180 --> 00:49:02,640 trauma like that. Yeah, if you can, if you can shield them from 776 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,620 that, of course you will. But we can't put all the blame of 777 00:49:07,620 --> 00:49:11,280 separate but equal on just the you know, people that were given 778 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,670 the resources. As the gentleman pointed out, in part two of this 779 00:49:14,670 --> 00:49:19,290 clip, it was also the black leadership that fail the black 780 00:49:19,290 --> 00:49:19,890 schools, 781 00:49:20,130 --> 00:49:22,260 black people would have been, I think, would have been very, 782 00:49:22,260 --> 00:49:27,600 very satisfied to maintain but just make sure it's equal. And 783 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:32,670 that's where the problem are our mountain high schooler, a joke 784 00:49:32,670 --> 00:49:37,020 man with a couple of tarpaper shacks, which will unsightly and 785 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,670 compared to the formula high school, you know, this this the 786 00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:50,670 idea of separate but equal books, so, so torn apart. In one 787 00:49:50,670 --> 00:49:53,490 case, a friend of mine is supposed to teach chemistry man, 788 00:49:53,820 --> 00:49:59,130 the only books he could get. He had shreds and particles with 789 00:49:59,130 --> 00:50:03,420 pieces of books. And by linking up in his classroom, these 790 00:50:03,420 --> 00:50:07,020 passed out what he had. By linking up together, the kids 791 00:50:07,050 --> 00:50:10,890 were then able to, to get together enough material to 792 00:50:11,220 --> 00:50:13,710 these books had been discarded by the white high school some 793 00:50:13,710 --> 00:50:16,680 years before and passed on to the black school. Now this 794 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,860 points out the the weakness and the corruption of the principal 795 00:50:19,860 --> 00:50:23,700 who was black. This teacher friend of mine, not knowing the 796 00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:27,390 chain of commands, a brand new teacher went to the 797 00:50:27,390 --> 00:50:29,880 superintendent said, Look, we're gonna get to where I can work 798 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,250 with it, how can I teach chemistry with this junk, and 799 00:50:32,250 --> 00:50:33,030 immediately got 800 00:50:33,570 --> 00:50:34,200 suspended? 801 00:50:35,460 --> 00:50:40,800 Oh, no bookstores classroom. Now, the point of this is, that 802 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,670 principle could also have done that, but it was better for the 803 00:50:44,670 --> 00:50:47,340 principal to report a surplus at the end, that happened. 804 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,020 I don't even remember, this clip is so weird. 805 00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:57,659 So this is the Boulais at work, because this is where that I'm 806 00:50:57,659 --> 00:51:00,749 different come in, at. And we're going to get into that in the 807 00:51:00,749 --> 00:51:06,509 next clip what that really means. But look at me, I'm one 808 00:51:06,509 --> 00:51:10,739 of a few. That's what that is, when people will lean into that 809 00:51:10,829 --> 00:51:14,849 and accept that I'm different. They're saying, I'm one of a 810 00:51:14,849 --> 00:51:18,449 few. I'm one of the talented 10th. I'm one of the exceptional 811 00:51:18,449 --> 00:51:19,169 black people 812 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,070 you're not. You're not always the other black people. Correct. 813 00:51:23,070 --> 00:51:23,280 And 814 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,030 people lean into that because it makes them feel special. But you 815 00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:30,330 got to understand what's not you but the proverbial, you have to 816 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,500 understand what's being said with it is like we think most of 817 00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:38,550 y'all think down here. But but by the grace of God, or you 818 00:51:38,550 --> 00:51:43,800 know, just sheer luck, you're different. You know, and really, 819 00:51:44,220 --> 00:51:47,280 both sides of his argument are operating from a place where 820 00:51:48,030 --> 00:51:53,610 it's a new term I coined, called a scientific white supremacist. 821 00:51:54,180 --> 00:51:58,590 And they, they base their logic off of science to say, oh, you 822 00:51:58,590 --> 00:52:01,080 know, black people aren't as smart as everybody else we've 823 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,670 done the numbers we run, we run the numbers. Now you will have 824 00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:09,180 different, you know, gradients, but overall, they're, they're 825 00:52:09,180 --> 00:52:13,500 lesser. So on one side, you say, well, we have to step in, this 826 00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:17,310 will be the NAACP, you know, and I'm racist like that we have to 827 00:52:17,310 --> 00:52:20,910 step in for and think for the black people. You know, and then 828 00:52:20,910 --> 00:52:23,910 the other side is, I don't want to go with those last names. You 829 00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:26,730 know, I don't want those animals around my children. I mean, you 830 00:52:26,730 --> 00:52:29,940 heard Joe Biden being a legend, he made that statement who do 831 00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:33,180 you know, become racial jungles? That's what he's referring to. 832 00:52:33,180 --> 00:52:37,050 He's saying what he's alleged to say that, um, but I'm just 833 00:52:37,050 --> 00:52:40,500 saying so it's not that both sides look at is, you know, 834 00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:42,510 these are free thinking people and let's give them the 835 00:52:42,510 --> 00:52:46,830 resources and see how it pans out is that we have to influence 836 00:52:47,130 --> 00:52:53,730 and step in, and you know, and commandeer their situation. So 837 00:52:53,820 --> 00:52:58,080 to prove my point about the scientific racism, scientific 838 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,130 white supremacy is, this is Jerry Jarrett Taylor, this goes 839 00:53:02,130 --> 00:53:06,690 back to 85. Overman. And we talked about Darwin and things 840 00:53:06,690 --> 00:53:09,750 of that nature. We might need a trigger warning when we've saved 841 00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:14,460 you can grab that while I finish up. But this is how a true 842 00:53:14,460 --> 00:53:17,760 scientific White's their premises things. And he said it 843 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:18,360 out loud. 844 00:53:20,310 --> 00:53:28,950 Warning, warning, warning, your attention. Trigger warning has 845 00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:29,880 been activated. 846 00:53:30,210 --> 00:53:35,280 whites and Asians evolved in harsh northern climates, in 847 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,670 which people had to make plans to make it through the winter. 848 00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:43,170 They had to cooperate to hunt and share food. And couples had 849 00:53:43,170 --> 00:53:47,490 to stay together for children to survive. Africa was more 850 00:53:47,490 --> 00:53:52,500 forgiving. Cooperation, planning ahead and care for children were 851 00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:57,270 less important. Psychopaths could survive, reproduce and 852 00:53:57,270 --> 00:54:01,770 pass along their genes. I think this is as good an explanation 853 00:54:01,770 --> 00:54:06,870 as any. The point is, however they got that way. People of 854 00:54:06,870 --> 00:54:12,060 different races are on average, different. expecting everyone to 855 00:54:12,060 --> 00:54:17,160 be the same is crazy. Blaming whites when blacks fall short, 856 00:54:17,490 --> 00:54:23,310 is not just crazy. It's vicious. Until we understand this, we 857 00:54:23,310 --> 00:54:28,170 can't even begin to talk about America's problems, much less 858 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,050 solve them. Thank you for watching. 859 00:54:32,940 --> 00:54:34,110 Thank you, Jerry. Yep, thanks. 860 00:54:34,140 --> 00:54:34,560 Oh. 861 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,710 So this is what it boils down to is that is it nature, is it 862 00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:44,160 nurture. He's leaning on the side it was you know, is due to 863 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,180 genetics. You know, Asian and white people come from harsh 864 00:54:48,180 --> 00:54:51,900 conditions and it killed off more to sociopaths. Right? And 865 00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:54,240 black people have more sociopaths because they gave him 866 00:54:54,270 --> 00:55:00,180 they were reproducing and more accommodating and benefit issue 867 00:55:00,180 --> 00:55:06,330 environment. This is this is the crux of the scientific white 868 00:55:06,330 --> 00:55:07,470 supremacy argument, 869 00:55:07,770 --> 00:55:12,690 right, which was was raging back in the 20s. And the 30s. Of 870 00:55:12,690 --> 00:55:17,100 course, we had the eugenics Society of America, which never 871 00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:21,780 really went away. And after, after the whole Hitler thing, 872 00:55:21,780 --> 00:55:25,020 which was kind of annoying for us, then it kind of came back. 873 00:55:25,020 --> 00:55:28,050 And yeah, I don't even know if that debate has ever left. 874 00:55:28,650 --> 00:55:33,210 No, it doesn't. So but now I have a clip of Malcolm X. He's 875 00:55:33,210 --> 00:55:36,960 saying there is a difference, but he leans more towards 876 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,320 nurture and environment. It's a very interesting clip. So number 877 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:40,920 16. 878 00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:47,460 This is Part true, you won't find very many people who are 879 00:55:47,460 --> 00:55:51,900 Afro American who will admit it. But if it is true, why, it is 880 00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:55,140 true that there is a sluggishness, intellectual 881 00:55:55,140 --> 00:55:59,220 sluggishness, academic sluggishness, in almost any 882 00:55:59,220 --> 00:56:05,820 negro community. But this exists only because of the result that 883 00:56:05,820 --> 00:56:09,840 has come up on us through years and years of slavery and being 884 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,440 held down in this society. This is why I made reference to the 885 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:18,120 book crisis in black and white, this particular man gives a very 886 00:56:19,260 --> 00:56:24,480 good scientific analysis as to why there this lethargy exists 887 00:56:24,570 --> 00:56:28,080 in the negro community, it is something that has been created 888 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,860 by the system, the system is designed to make the Negro 889 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,060 student lose his interest in education almost before he even 890 00:56:36,060 --> 00:56:40,410 gets started in school. And the parents usually who are also 891 00:56:40,500 --> 00:56:43,350 limited where education is concerned and have who have run 892 00:56:43,350 --> 00:56:46,710 into so many barriers and obstacles, despite the fact they 893 00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:50,250 had education. Sometimes they ask themselves, what's the use. 894 00:56:50,370 --> 00:56:55,290 So as long as the system that we are in exists, and this system 895 00:56:55,290 --> 00:56:59,040 that the survival of this system depends upon the continued 896 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:03,060 exploitation of the black men in this country, the survival of it 897 00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:07,740 depends upon the continued degrading of the black men in 898 00:57:07,740 --> 00:57:12,090 this country in the necessity of using us as the whipping boy in 899 00:57:12,090 --> 00:57:16,680 the Alaba, in the excuse that as long as this system exists, then 900 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,830 you will find that our people will have the same attitude 901 00:57:19,830 --> 00:57:23,730 toward education. And that and they have a justified, I should 902 00:57:23,730 --> 00:57:27,030 say they have they haven't answered they can explain. But 903 00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:30,210 at the same time, the burden rests upon the leaders of the 904 00:57:30,210 --> 00:57:34,230 Afro American community to try and instill within the youth 905 00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:37,410 especially the desire to further their education, because without 906 00:57:37,410 --> 00:57:39,570 it, you're not going anywhere on this earth today. 907 00:57:40,170 --> 00:57:43,170 Yeah, enter all the Reverend and the pastors who did such a good 908 00:57:43,170 --> 00:57:43,800 job at that. 909 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,840 Correct. And this is why I was such i and that was a it's such 910 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:55,110 a opponent of CRT critical race theory, because all it does is 911 00:57:55,110 --> 00:58:01,230 further the lower expectations of black students. Enter math is 912 00:58:01,230 --> 00:58:04,860 racist. Oh, yeah, that can be more than one. According to your 913 00:58:04,860 --> 00:58:09,090 zip code, your socio economic status, you're allowed to have 914 00:58:09,090 --> 00:58:12,450 more than one right answer to a math problem. How in the hell 915 00:58:12,450 --> 00:58:13,170 does that help? 916 00:58:15,179 --> 00:58:19,859 It helps helps enslave people even more. Sway, I see. 917 00:58:20,340 --> 00:58:24,540 Wish it handicaps you, which makes you more reliant on the 918 00:58:24,540 --> 00:58:29,700 people that come in and say, oh, you know, poor you. Now you need 919 00:58:29,700 --> 00:58:33,270 my help, even more wishes sets this that white savior thing 920 00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:37,320 that I think Bill Berg talked about in his comedy scan. Yes, 921 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,710 it's true racism is the true racism of today. 922 00:58:41,370 --> 00:58:45,960 Right? Because if you if, let's, I'm to the point, let's prove 923 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,140 it, let's have separate but equal, let's have equal 924 00:58:49,140 --> 00:58:53,340 resources. And if you're, if you're right, then this test 925 00:58:53,340 --> 00:58:57,270 scores will stay lower. that will that will, if it's a cap on 926 00:58:57,270 --> 00:59:01,200 black intellectual capabilities, it will be shown in separate but 927 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,790 equal because you have an experiment, you can only have 928 00:59:05,790 --> 00:59:12,000 one variable, right? That's the scientific method. So the one 929 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:17,910 variable will be race, you got the same environment, same 930 00:59:17,910 --> 00:59:21,420 school, same materials, everything else, and now we'll 931 00:59:21,420 --> 00:59:25,320 see this black intellectual capability go up, or they're in 932 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,290 a state of stagnant or does it go down, but they don't want to 933 00:59:28,290 --> 00:59:32,310 do that because both sides benefit from this song and dance 934 00:59:32,310 --> 00:59:35,580 one. They're both scientific white supremacist, and I'm sorry 935 00:59:35,580 --> 00:59:38,640 to say that but I'm not really sorry to say that and they also 936 00:59:38,670 --> 00:59:43,980 both sides benefit from from it. And what they tried to do to 937 00:59:43,980 --> 00:59:48,810 Jerry Jones is make him the face of white supremacy like they try 938 00:59:48,810 --> 00:59:52,140 to make the kk k to white supreme in the face of white 939 00:59:52,140 --> 00:59:55,200 supremacy. You know, it's not that people in white seats that 940 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,780 are our problem is the people in white coats. It's Yes, 941 00:59:57,780 --> 01:00:00,450 and it's not even people with white skin necessarily early. I 942 01:00:00,450 --> 01:00:04,530 mean, if we if we know that, you know, the true, white supremecy. 943 01:00:05,850 --> 01:00:09,990 You know, coming from Europe, it really isn't even that much 944 01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:11,520 about the white face anymore. 945 01:00:12,089 --> 01:00:15,239 Right. And that's when i That's why I made the point of saying I 946 01:00:15,239 --> 01:00:19,169 said on a previous show that they're making the quote unquote 947 01:00:19,169 --> 01:00:22,169 Magga people, a person of color, orange, 948 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,280 hey, how about this? Can I just adapt your because you had 949 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,820 scientific white supremacy supremacists? How about white 950 01:00:29,820 --> 01:00:31,020 coats supremacist? 951 01:00:33,780 --> 01:00:40,740 No, because these Now, the reason why I say push back 952 01:00:40,740 --> 01:00:44,760 against that, because you got to go back to clip 15. It's the 953 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,360 logic, they say we are the smartest people on the face of 954 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,240 the earth. And this is what Bill Gates comes down and say, Hey, 955 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:55,050 we could kill off 90% of people. Because we're the smartest 956 01:00:55,050 --> 01:00:58,080 people on Earth. Yeah, and really, we're the only really 957 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:02,700 people value adding people is like, 10%. So we can do well, 958 01:01:02,700 --> 01:01:06,120 the other 90%. You know, I mean, that's, that's their mentor, and 959 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,300 it's based off of Darwinism. I know, that frustrates a lot of 960 01:01:09,300 --> 01:01:14,070 people. But the ACE is, that's the whole point of race, is to 961 01:01:14,070 --> 01:01:17,400 put people at hierarchies to say, Okay, this one is smarter 962 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,570 than this one, this I'm smarter than this one, do 100% due to 963 01:01:21,570 --> 01:01:27,660 genetics. So I think if we try to do that, we lose the point of 964 01:01:28,770 --> 01:01:33,270 they are backing everything they think the scientific wise the 965 01:01:33,270 --> 01:01:37,440 premises off of the genetics, the science of genetics, this, 966 01:01:37,470 --> 01:01:42,000 this is why I said this is why they go and say, like I said, 967 01:01:42,030 --> 01:01:45,240 this is why they push birth control and all these other 968 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,990 things. And just to move to show for a little bit. This is why 969 01:01:48,990 --> 01:01:52,200 the creation of the town the 10th, aka the Boulais was 970 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,770 created to say we understand scientifically, y'all will have 971 01:01:55,770 --> 01:02:00,150 smart people not at the right we do wish y'all will. So what we 972 01:02:00,150 --> 01:02:03,420 do is we will carve out a place for them, but the other 9% Gotta 973 01:02:03,420 --> 01:02:10,740 go screw you know, kill you. One way, this the end, I want to 974 01:02:10,740 --> 01:02:11,970 make this clear, even better. 975 01:02:13,230 --> 01:02:14,880 Born that's the best No, 976 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,270 not kill them before they bore you. You're almost there, kill 977 01:02:18,270 --> 01:02:20,160 them before they reproduce. Okay. 978 01:02:20,459 --> 01:02:20,969 The goal is 979 01:02:21,449 --> 01:02:24,749 to sterilize sterilized that then that was the eugenics 980 01:02:24,749 --> 01:02:26,099 movement was sterilization. 981 01:02:26,699 --> 01:02:31,439 Correct. The reason why they had to do this is because, and shout 982 01:02:31,439 --> 01:02:34,049 out to my man grunt me who had this long conversation, it 983 01:02:34,049 --> 01:02:36,749 really boils down to one marshmallow to marshmallow. And 984 01:02:36,749 --> 01:02:39,689 sorry, I'm belaboring this, but we got to get this kind of laid 985 01:02:39,689 --> 01:02:42,029 out for the show the rest of the show. 986 01:02:45,239 --> 01:02:47,459 Makes me understood double Yeah, it makes sense. 987 01:02:49,050 --> 01:02:50,910 Have you ever heard the marshmallow test? 988 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,510 Well, I've heard of the brown paper bag test. 989 01:02:54,870 --> 01:02:58,020 Now the marshmallow test was his book written. And they said 990 01:02:58,020 --> 01:03:01,200 people to eat one marshmallow. They gave kids marshmallow. They 991 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,530 said, you can eat the one marshmallow now. Or if you wait 992 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,610 to Marshmallow, yes, we've talked about this. Right. So 993 01:03:08,610 --> 01:03:11,280 that's their whole point. They trying to get rid of all the one 994 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,820 marshmallow people that people that can't delay gratification. 995 01:03:14,940 --> 01:03:18,720 That's the scientific what the Jared Taylor's talking about. 996 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,540 They quote unquote, gay when I say that he's talking about 997 01:03:21,540 --> 01:03:25,020 black people. And brown people are saying different here, just 998 01:03:25,020 --> 01:03:27,450 just to AR one marshmallow people just to 999 01:03:27,450 --> 01:03:30,750 give some context. This was a Stanford experiment, Stanford 1000 01:03:30,750 --> 01:03:37,230 University from 1972. Right, and was only really challenged 1001 01:03:37,860 --> 01:03:42,060 harshly in the last couple of years, I think, came up again, 1002 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,960 where it's still being pushed, is that even like some of these 1003 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:55,110 other flawed thought processes is that you know, that and way 1004 01:03:55,110 --> 01:03:57,690 Jarrett is looking at it. And I'm not pointing him out 1005 01:03:57,690 --> 01:04:00,390 particularly but people that think like him, there's a 1006 01:04:00,390 --> 01:04:03,660 greater percentage of one marshmallow people and black 1007 01:04:03,660 --> 01:04:08,040 people. So we can dance around the subject, or we can use you 1008 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,400 know, address the subject. And that's when your birth control 1009 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:17,010 and your abortion and sterilization. Another form of 1010 01:04:18,420 --> 01:04:22,830 sterilization is trans trans transitioning, which is just 1011 01:04:22,830 --> 01:04:26,700 another form of that we have to voluntary sterilization my 1012 01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:31,020 friend, right we have to kill them before they reproduce even 1013 01:04:31,020 --> 01:04:34,230 what's happening in Canada right now. You're depressed, 1014 01:04:34,950 --> 01:04:37,830 die, die, we'll help you die 1015 01:04:37,860 --> 01:04:41,370 before you reproduce. Because guess what? That one one 1016 01:04:41,370 --> 01:04:44,550 marshmallow person can make three or four or five or 10 and 1017 01:04:44,550 --> 01:04:47,400 the two marshmallow people are not reproducing at the same 1018 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,970 rate. This This is the sixth scientific mind we're dealing 1019 01:04:50,970 --> 01:04:53,760 with here that they want to play God and that's why I can't get 1020 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:54,570 on board with it. 1021 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,050 No, of course not. And I'll just say again, because I made such a 1022 01:04:58,050 --> 01:05:04,200 study of it after I know this was maybe five, six shows ago I 1023 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,590 really, I really did a deep dive into the eugenics Society of 1024 01:05:07,590 --> 01:05:11,250 America. It's still here, it's still the same thinking it's the 1025 01:05:11,250 --> 01:05:12,630 same ideas. 1026 01:05:14,070 --> 01:05:19,680 It never, never went away. constant drumbeat one foot after 1027 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,650 other slow and that's why I always point to the Fabian 1028 01:05:22,650 --> 01:05:28,200 socialist. Their mentality is progress continual improvement 1029 01:05:28,230 --> 01:05:31,140 and it's a very scientific and I know I've said scientific a 1030 01:05:31,140 --> 01:05:34,950 bunch but I want to make this is not emotional. We have to take 1031 01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:40,410 the emotion out of things understand. The lizard people 1032 01:05:40,410 --> 01:05:44,550 are scared as hell and what a lizard people do. They either 1033 01:05:44,550 --> 01:05:49,440 fight or flight. Right that's it and they're like, we can't fly 1034 01:05:49,470 --> 01:05:54,270 off Earth just yet. So what do we got to do? We have to go on 1035 01:05:54,270 --> 01:05:58,710 the offensive. Ie you're saying the vaccinations, trans 1036 01:05:58,740 --> 01:06:04,530 transitioning, abortion birth control, giving up your right to 1037 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,370 reproduce due to the for climate change all of these things then 1038 01:06:08,370 --> 01:06:11,820 around. If you're dumb enough to fall for this, you're not smart 1039 01:06:11,820 --> 01:06:13,440 enough to go to the future where we're headed 1040 01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:17,130 there. Just you just set it right there. Let's put something 1041 01:06:17,130 --> 01:06:19,290 out there and you're dumb enough to fall for it. We were right 1042 01:06:19,290 --> 01:06:20,790 about you. That's 1043 01:06:22,469 --> 01:06:27,059 right. And and to the town that Tim could they say, Okay, y'all 1044 01:06:27,059 --> 01:06:29,969 get your different now here we come with the you're different. 1045 01:06:30,179 --> 01:06:33,629 Now I have to humanize everybody, as always do you have 1046 01:06:33,629 --> 01:06:36,599 to look at it from the flip side of the tablet 10. They say I 1047 01:06:36,599 --> 01:06:40,709 have these special abilities you skills. And I can say I know 1048 01:06:40,709 --> 01:06:42,779 we'd be labeled in between clips, but I have to make this 1049 01:06:42,779 --> 01:06:46,199 clear what's going on. Because I was one of these kids that was 1050 01:06:46,199 --> 01:06:49,829 in this class. This is just Joe Brown. And it's a video of him 1051 01:06:49,829 --> 01:06:53,909 talking to these looks like you know, preteen kids, and he's 1052 01:06:53,909 --> 01:06:56,279 going to tell them how they're to tell teeth and how they're 1053 01:06:56,309 --> 01:06:59,399 obligated to raise their race up, which I have no issue with 1054 01:06:59,399 --> 01:07:04,229 that. But it's who you recruited him that you send them off to 1055 01:07:04,229 --> 01:07:08,489 these PMIs predominantly PWI excuse me, predominately white 1056 01:07:08,489 --> 01:07:12,719 institutions, where they'll be isolated, you know, from their 1057 01:07:12,719 --> 01:07:16,709 people, they'll be seen as different by their people, and 1058 01:07:16,709 --> 01:07:19,049 they won't be effective. So basically, what you're doing is, 1059 01:07:19,109 --> 01:07:21,569 you know, taking the cream of the crop and leaving the other 1060 01:07:21,569 --> 01:07:25,289 90% behind. But if you think you've been blessed with a 1061 01:07:25,289 --> 01:07:28,409 certain skill to elevate your people, and if so to you like 1062 01:07:28,409 --> 01:07:31,679 JoJo Brown is selling it to them. And I said I don't think 1063 01:07:31,679 --> 01:07:34,889 he has an ill willing his heart. But I want because I've had this 1064 01:07:34,889 --> 01:07:39,299 conversation. I was I told you I was elected. Seventh grade 1065 01:07:39,299 --> 01:07:43,229 treasurer. Right. And they came in Are you going to be on the 1066 01:07:43,229 --> 01:07:44,369 Freedom Riders the future? 1067 01:07:45,570 --> 01:07:49,200 Yeah, let's get on the bus. All right around. Yeah. And this 1068 01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,230 is a kind of speech you will get when you were put on the bus 17 1069 01:07:53,969 --> 01:08:01,619 is Wow, Bose, however you want to pronounce the spoke of the 1070 01:08:01,619 --> 01:08:07,979 talented 10. That is the 1/10 of the population of what he called 1071 01:08:08,009 --> 01:08:13,529 Colored Peoples in negros, blacks and Afro American, then 1072 01:08:13,529 --> 01:08:18,929 black and then African American. And considering sort of 1073 01:08:18,929 --> 01:08:22,859 developments, maybe Afro American again, but anyway, one 1074 01:08:22,859 --> 01:08:29,099 tear of the race, he said we'll be able to improve themselves 1075 01:08:29,099 --> 01:08:33,509 and then being conscientious and dedicated to the cause. Cool the 1076 01:08:33,509 --> 01:08:38,669 rest of the people that wish. Now some way somehow that 1077 01:08:38,669 --> 01:08:44,609 stopped being manifest objective of people who've done education, 1078 01:08:45,059 --> 01:08:49,259 we slid back. So this neighborhood no longer has 1079 01:08:49,259 --> 01:08:54,539 leadership. Everybody kind of takes off Rosa Parks when they 1080 01:08:54,539 --> 01:09:00,659 leave the workplace. But we have to still exercise leadership 1081 01:09:00,659 --> 01:09:05,459 because we should be in charge if we have a challenge. And as 1082 01:09:05,489 --> 01:09:06,449 an obligation. 1083 01:09:07,620 --> 01:09:10,050 And when when was this from this judge brown clip? 1084 01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:15,360 This looks like the early 2000s. I'm just going by video. I mean, 1085 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,990 I don't have a set date and I'm looking by dressing and that 1086 01:09:18,990 --> 01:09:24,300 kind of thing. It looks maybe early 2000s When this was taken, 1087 01:09:24,540 --> 01:09:28,380 and like I said he doesn't have any ill will towards this is the 1088 01:09:29,340 --> 01:09:34,110 the argument you know, Booker T Washington, W EB Dubois, that's 1089 01:09:34,110 --> 01:09:39,180 the art do we build from ground up? Or do we start with top down 1090 01:09:39,180 --> 01:09:44,430 for you? Right, you elevate your 10% and then they reach back 1091 01:09:44,430 --> 01:09:50,490 down and pull up. Or do you say we build a strong foundation and 1092 01:09:50,490 --> 01:09:53,070 you know that foundation elevates another layer of level 1093 01:09:53,070 --> 01:09:55,650 and another level and another level you have a strong 1094 01:09:55,650 --> 01:10:00,570 foundation, which even given the dichotomy here We're saying or 1095 01:10:00,570 --> 01:10:04,590 the other binary choice is dumb to me, because you need both? 1096 01:10:04,620 --> 01:10:08,790 Well, of course, this is what has been done that you had two 1097 01:10:08,790 --> 01:10:13,020 groups come in and say, choice A or choice B. And just to go back 1098 01:10:13,020 --> 01:10:15,870 for a minute, cuz I want to bring up trading places. For me, 1099 01:10:15,900 --> 01:10:19,920 this is what this was all about was, are they genetically this 1100 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,950 way? Or is it nature versus nurture? You know, that kind of 1101 01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:28,830 thing. And as you see how to move, it's played out, if you 1102 01:10:28,830 --> 01:10:30,720 change the person, the environment, you know, it 1103 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,600 changes their outlook, which, you know, let their true 1104 01:10:33,870 --> 01:10:36,660 capability shine through. But that's what it brought me in. 1105 01:10:36,660 --> 01:10:40,800 That's what it boils down to. And it's very, it's very cold, 1106 01:10:40,830 --> 01:10:45,750 calculating, and, and scientific to say that we're for 100 times, 1107 01:10:46,140 --> 01:10:49,980 but we have to not throw the science part out with it. But 1108 01:10:49,980 --> 01:10:53,190 they trigger you by triggering your emotion to say, oh, Jerry 1109 01:10:53,190 --> 01:10:57,990 Jones, here he is, he was saying 80 years ago. And it was black 1110 01:10:57,990 --> 01:11:04,440 and white picture. Now be mad and noise solutions b2b Man, the 1111 01:11:04,440 --> 01:11:05,700 way we want you to react, 1112 01:11:06,090 --> 01:11:10,980 so we can get him out, get the team get Jay Z and build a new 1113 01:11:10,980 --> 01:11:13,410 stadium gentrify the whole neighborhood make make a billion 1114 01:11:13,410 --> 01:11:13,950 dollars. 1115 01:11:14,430 --> 01:11:18,120 Even with that it's get Jay Z and but as you pointed out to 1116 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:22,560 get 1/10 of a percent, but plan on your emotions. Oh, we got a 1117 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:27,510 black owner. Now. Do we really know. Bezos is the you know, 1118 01:11:28,050 --> 01:11:31,920 JC literally like owned 0.3% of the nets or something? It's like 1119 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,390 so infinitesimal. 1120 01:11:33,660 --> 01:11:37,920 This he did, but he sold it, you know, and Jay Z is playing chess 1121 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:41,550 here. You know, he did basketball. First. They got in a 1122 01:11:41,550 --> 01:11:43,950 sports agency. And then he 1123 01:11:44,670 --> 01:11:49,050 got the Super Bowl contract to do all the media to do all the 1124 01:11:49,050 --> 01:11:50,820 rest. But we owe the halftime show. 1125 01:11:51,030 --> 01:11:53,490 But we got to back up one step because he was on Colin 1126 01:11:53,490 --> 01:11:56,340 Kaepernick side in the beginning. Right, right. That's 1127 01:11:56,340 --> 01:11:59,790 why I told you that was Jay Z's pancake moment. And if people 1128 01:11:59,790 --> 01:12:02,340 don't know talking about when Bill Cosby gave that pancake 1129 01:12:02,340 --> 01:12:05,280 speech, that's when he kind of lost the backing of quote 1130 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,980 unquote black people because like, Whoa, you're on common 1131 01:12:07,980 --> 01:12:12,090 side now all of a sudden, you know, you're doing halftime show 1132 01:12:12,090 --> 01:12:16,530 for the NFL and Super Bowl. And that was a bad look for us 1133 01:12:16,530 --> 01:12:20,460 because it portrayed the wrong image. You know, racial image 1134 01:12:20,489 --> 01:12:23,549 does it make us play the poundcake again, 1135 01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:27,390 if you want to ensure just to give people content Yeah, I'd 1136 01:12:27,390 --> 01:12:27,630 like to 1137 01:12:27,630 --> 01:12:28,470 do that hold on a sec. 1138 01:12:29,130 --> 01:12:36,990 In the old days, you couldn't because behind every drawn shade 1139 01:12:36,990 --> 01:12:44,070 was alive. And before your mother got off the bus into the 1140 01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:48,780 house, she knew exactly where you had gone who had gone into 1141 01:12:48,780 --> 01:12:54,660 the house. Parents don't know that. I'm talking about these 1142 01:12:54,690 --> 01:13:00,360 people who cry when the sun is standing there in an orange 1143 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:11,130 suit. Where were you willing was to where were you when he was 12 1144 01:13:12,540 --> 01:13:17,850 Where were you when he was 18 and I've come you don't know he 1145 01:13:17,850 --> 01:13:23,520 had a season not these are these are not political criminals. 1146 01:13:23,940 --> 01:13:28,290 These are people going around stealing Coca Cola people 1147 01:13:28,290 --> 01:13:32,490 getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake 1148 01:13:34,830 --> 01:13:40,050 and then we all run out were outraged to shut down would you 1149 01:13:40,050 --> 01:13:41,160 do with the pound 1150 01:13:44,700 --> 01:13:47,100 yeah, there's a second part to it but I think it's clear enough 1151 01:13:47,100 --> 01:13:47,700 with that 1152 01:13:49,140 --> 01:13:53,910 but now you see when he said these people that's that that's 1153 01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:59,880 that different top right eye we're different is these people 1154 01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:03,720 which of course we have issues but when you separate yourself 1155 01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:07,650 from the group this is why nobody came right in for Bill 1156 01:14:07,650 --> 01:14:09,840 Cosby when he got hemmed up. It's like okay, 1157 01:14:09,870 --> 01:14:12,300 you know, he's going back out he's going back out on the ice 1158 01:14:12,300 --> 01:14:13,140 we're going to do a tour. 1159 01:14:13,710 --> 01:14:16,350 He has to because I told you they only let him out of jail to 1160 01:14:16,350 --> 01:14:19,500 drain his pockets that was the whole point when we did the show 1161 01:14:19,500 --> 01:14:24,810 it was like I got to pack my bag and stuff in the back sometimes 1162 01:14:25,290 --> 01:14:29,280 because like I knew this is all really let them out is to say 1163 01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:33,540 okay we got you wish there was no constitutional reasoning for 1164 01:14:33,540 --> 01:14:37,290 them have them you know, cuz you couldn't you're saying self 1165 01:14:37,290 --> 01:14:39,720 incriminate yourself that way was like now we got to let them 1166 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,000 out because we can't sue him while he's in jail. Right? 1167 01:14:42,660 --> 01:14:47,790 I'll give you a little route shot for that. We remember 1168 01:14:52,500 --> 01:14:55,500 all right. So now we're going to fast forward and talk here for 1169 01:14:55,500 --> 01:15:00,360 one Little Rock Nine and she received most of them Most some 1170 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,390 of the most harshest abuse and this is Megyn Kelly talking to 1171 01:15:03,390 --> 01:15:03,690 her 1172 01:15:09,210 --> 01:15:13,350 black history month. We remember that day in September of 1957, 1173 01:15:13,590 --> 01:15:16,860 when nine black teenagers enrolled in a white High School 1174 01:15:17,100 --> 01:15:20,430 in Little Rock, Arkansas, the group of teens would become 1175 01:15:20,430 --> 01:15:23,610 known as the Little Rock Nine, and their actions sparked one of 1176 01:15:23,610 --> 01:15:27,030 the most pivotable pivotal moments of the civil rights 1177 01:15:27,030 --> 01:15:31,830 movement. One of the Little Rock Nine is Melba Pattillo Beals, 1178 01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:36,060 then she was a 15 year old high school junior. Today, she is an 1179 01:15:36,060 --> 01:15:39,240 accomplished author and retired University professor who joins 1180 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:44,340 us this morning live. But first, her memory of those days. In her 1181 01:15:44,340 --> 01:15:45,000 own words, 1182 01:15:45,090 --> 01:15:48,690 I was never up for the task, people who call us heroes and 1183 01:15:48,690 --> 01:15:53,580 heroines have no idea that it's 15 I was still in love with 1184 01:15:53,580 --> 01:15:57,870 Johnny Mathis and Pat Boone. So I was a typical teenager, I 1185 01:15:57,870 --> 01:16:01,080 wanted what every other teenager when any new school you go to, 1186 01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,380 you know, you're going to have a problem. So I anticipated that. 1187 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:10,500 Initially, they would not like us because of we were outsiders. 1188 01:16:10,620 --> 01:16:13,800 But my thought was I have a point till my shoes are 1189 01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,940 polished. In my innocence, I thought they will see that I am 1190 01:16:17,940 --> 01:16:22,530 bright, brighter than most of them. So what are they going to 1191 01:16:22,530 --> 01:16:28,290 do? You know? And I by that I knew who I was, and I know what 1192 01:16:28,290 --> 01:16:31,920 I'm capable of. And I was self assured in that way. 1193 01:16:33,030 --> 01:16:35,670 I didn't realize it but there was more than half or girls, I 1194 01:16:35,670 --> 01:16:36,870 think of the Little Rock now. 1195 01:16:36,900 --> 01:16:40,830 Yes. Going back to what I said before about you had to have the 1196 01:16:40,830 --> 01:16:45,480 right temperament, right? You couldn't have nine strapping 1197 01:16:45,480 --> 01:16:51,450 young black men coming into why no eight had to be a certain 1198 01:16:51,810 --> 01:16:55,770 percentage of women, kids that wouldn't fight back that could 1199 01:16:55,770 --> 01:16:59,070 be you know, hazing and harassed and assaulted. 1200 01:16:59,340 --> 01:17:03,030 I'm gonna, I'm gonna ask Dred Scott, who does the chapters for 1201 01:17:03,030 --> 01:17:06,120 this show, if you're using a modern podcast app, new podcast 1202 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,540 apps.com, that one of those pictures from the Smithsonian 1203 01:17:09,630 --> 01:17:12,360 National Museum of African American History and Culture. 1204 01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,170 It's really cool. You see them all sitting there in a circle, 1205 01:17:16,170 --> 01:17:20,070 like a study group. And this just, you know, dress to the T's 1206 01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:21,630 is perfect. Perfect. It 1207 01:17:21,630 --> 01:17:26,430 was it was 69. I mean, 63 that made up the twice as many 1208 01:17:26,430 --> 01:17:32,430 females as males, right. So I'm wondering, did feminism have 1209 01:17:32,430 --> 01:17:35,100 anything to do with that as well? Because you know, with 1210 01:17:35,730 --> 01:17:39,690 hiring black women, you get a double minority? Yes. So it's 1211 01:17:39,690 --> 01:17:43,350 like, when people like what you might be reaching there? No, 1212 01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:46,980 these things are thought out. And the decades and centuries 1213 01:17:47,070 --> 01:17:53,490 Yeah, fast forward. But let's continue on with the abuse this 1214 01:17:53,940 --> 01:17:58,830 sister bills endured. When she attended school, I had 1215 01:17:58,830 --> 01:18:01,500 written around Central High School since I was a baby says 1216 01:18:01,500 --> 01:18:05,520 little and don't don't say I can't do something. That's what 1217 01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:09,960 I'm gonna do. Always wheelchair walker or not. If you defy me 1218 01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,830 and you say, you can't do that. I was born that way. And so they 1219 01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:16,950 said, you can't go to the school. The school was 718 1220 01:18:16,950 --> 01:18:19,890 storeys high. With all the equipment, it was eight square 1221 01:18:19,890 --> 01:18:22,470 blocks in diameter. And I was going to this little teeny 1222 01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:25,980 school where every September they bring over the three legged 1223 01:18:26,220 --> 01:18:31,740 table, the greasy key, you know, broken typewriter, and I said 1224 01:18:31,740 --> 01:18:36,180 that Wait a minute. Hey, who puts him in charge? And Gregory 1225 01:18:36,180 --> 01:18:38,730 would always say if he knew better, they do better. God 1226 01:18:38,730 --> 01:18:43,140 loves us equally. So I said, look at your mom. I want him to 1227 01:18:43,140 --> 01:18:47,520 come up and be in charge for six months. Let them do Jan to June 1228 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:52,140 and let me do July to December. If that's how it is if God 1229 01:18:52,140 --> 01:18:55,020 really loves to see cool and she would say no, you know, this is 1230 01:18:55,020 --> 01:18:57,930 God's time in his way and I just you know, so when they put up 1231 01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,840 it's time to put your hand up to go to Central High School. 1232 01:19:01,050 --> 01:19:05,520 Despite any thoughts of tyranny or what's going to happen I put 1233 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:06,000 my hand up 1234 01:19:08,190 --> 01:19:14,250 so now you see that I have special gifts and I'm gonna use 1235 01:19:14,250 --> 01:19:19,500 that gift to prove to people that we are smart you know, but 1236 01:19:19,530 --> 01:19:23,700 the short side of this of this is that if you prove a racist 1237 01:19:23,700 --> 01:19:26,940 that you're better than him that doesn't that doesn't gain favor 1238 01:19:26,940 --> 01:19:30,510 with him. That only you know now you're up to you know what, you 1239 01:19:30,510 --> 01:19:35,160 know, and who do you think you are now with? Okay, you stepping 1240 01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,490 out your line? Boy? Again, you're saying that that's how 1241 01:19:38,490 --> 01:19:41,490 they will put it? Which gal is a racist? Oh, well let people know 1242 01:19:41,490 --> 01:19:45,450 that to you. That this microaggression that's the 1243 01:19:45,450 --> 01:19:50,520 equivalent to boy for black women. Yes. I always like to 1244 01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,430 throw a little things out there for people. So you can have 1245 01:19:53,430 --> 01:19:56,160 context to that yeah, come up. My mom's did get triggered when 1246 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,970 we go to restaurant. You know, I have guys and gals on the on the 1247 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,990 On the bathroom doors, it was like, oh, okay, now I can't 1248 01:20:03,990 --> 01:20:06,060 write with that. But quick aside, 1249 01:20:06,690 --> 01:20:10,950 I didn't realize that thanks for is that still considered racist 1250 01:20:10,950 --> 01:20:11,370 today? 1251 01:20:11,670 --> 01:20:15,360 I don't think is well known but and this is where generational 1252 01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:19,860 things come in. And you know, that was the equivalent to that. 1253 01:20:19,890 --> 01:20:25,860 So now it's amazing like the crowd was clapping and stuff. 1254 01:20:26,130 --> 01:20:30,360 And you know, say like you they bring us out and now we're going 1255 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:34,440 to hear I want you to listen to what Megyn Kelly thought she 1256 01:20:34,440 --> 01:20:37,500 experienced versus what she actually experienced. 1257 01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,370 I put my hand up I didn't really anticipate so don't let me let 1258 01:20:41,370 --> 01:20:43,260 you believe that I have some great heroin. That's it. Okay, 1259 01:20:43,260 --> 01:20:46,080 I'll go there get killed rot. No, no, no, no, I thought, well, 1260 01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,720 you know, they'll be mean, they'll call me names because 1261 01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,050 they do that in any new school. They won't like my blouse. They 1262 01:20:52,050 --> 01:20:55,230 won't like my hair. Did you expect I mean, no, no, no, no, 1263 01:20:55,230 --> 01:20:55,890 no threat. 1264 01:20:56,700 --> 01:20:59,190 Life there were there were ropes, people were holding 1265 01:20:59,190 --> 01:21:03,540 weapons. No, no, calling you the N word. It was beyond bleeding 1266 01:21:03,540 --> 01:21:03,750 through 1267 01:21:03,750 --> 01:21:09,030 my living room window. people throwing acid in my eyes, people 1268 01:21:09,210 --> 01:21:13,800 throwing lip paper over the bathroom stall. After about a 1269 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:18,090 day and a half there I thought, Aha integration is a much, much 1270 01:21:18,090 --> 01:21:23,100 bigger word than I thought. Because I didn't understand what 1271 01:21:23,100 --> 01:21:26,280 people were willing to do to avoid sitting by me. And I like 1272 01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,310 me. I couldn't figure that out. All my life. God had said, You 1273 01:21:29,310 --> 01:21:32,580 know what? I mean, my grandmother's it God's God has a 1274 01:21:32,580 --> 01:21:35,010 picture of you on his refrigerator. He really likes 1275 01:21:35,010 --> 01:21:39,390 you. You're pretty he really likes you. So why would you do 1276 01:21:39,390 --> 01:21:41,130 that to keep from sitting beside me. 1277 01:21:41,460 --> 01:21:44,250 But when they put you in the school, they separated the nine 1278 01:21:44,250 --> 01:21:47,430 of you and said you want integration? You got it? 1279 01:21:49,980 --> 01:21:53,250 So you heard what Megan said, he had ropes and throwing the word 1280 01:21:53,250 --> 01:21:55,470 around. And no, that's Megan's 1281 01:21:55,470 --> 01:21:58,020 imagination. She's thinking something else, man. She's 1282 01:21:58,020 --> 01:21:59,880 thinking what day or whatever. I don't know 1283 01:22:00,030 --> 01:22:02,820 what not. That's what you saw from the images. It was much 1284 01:22:02,820 --> 01:22:07,110 worse. Right? Nobody. Everybody was dead when school first 1285 01:22:07,110 --> 01:22:11,640 started when the cameras left. And his kid was still going to 1286 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:16,020 school. As you heard her say to ask her in her eyes. Try to set 1287 01:22:16,020 --> 01:22:21,780 her on fire in a bathroom stall. Shoot was the wrong home. Why 1288 01:22:21,780 --> 01:22:24,060 would you sign your children up for this? And I want to make one 1289 01:22:24,060 --> 01:22:27,270 last point before we move on to the next. The next phase of the 1290 01:22:27,270 --> 01:22:31,440 show. Is that in this situation? You heard her referred to her 1291 01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:35,100 grandmother and her mother. There was no man in the house in 1292 01:22:35,100 --> 01:22:38,040 this situation. Because no way in hell what? 1293 01:22:38,310 --> 01:22:40,470 My daughter's Yeah. 1294 01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:45,780 Cuz you got to make me kill somebody. He will say in the 1295 01:22:45,780 --> 01:22:49,650 name of progress. If you do that to my child, you're saying like 1296 01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,290 I'm going to be killed. So that's why a father would have 1297 01:22:52,290 --> 01:22:55,140 put the kibosh on like Nah, we ain't going for that. Because I 1298 01:22:55,140 --> 01:23:01,350 know how it ends, right? But you have the you know, Wilmslow 1299 01:23:01,350 --> 01:23:04,950 cool, a, you know, right, to say they're just different. You 1300 01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:07,770 know, when you go to a different school, you get nervous and they 1301 01:23:07,770 --> 01:23:13,230 be mean to new kids. No, this is institutional ingrained racism, 1302 01:23:13,260 --> 01:23:14,220 that's unbalanced 1303 01:23:14,220 --> 01:23:17,400 household that, that where that can happen. 1304 01:23:18,060 --> 01:23:20,520 Yeah, I like to say that how that conversation they want to 1305 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,970 do it and then pick somebody else kid. You go you go back to 1306 01:23:23,970 --> 01:23:27,660 the high school you went to because you got to put me in a 1307 01:23:27,660 --> 01:23:30,660 very, you know, when you were situation 1308 01:23:30,690 --> 01:23:33,060 when you were singled out, you were treasurer, good for the 1309 01:23:33,060 --> 01:23:37,020 Freedom Riders. Was your dad there or he was already working 1310 01:23:37,020 --> 01:23:39,150 somewhere else not in the house at the time? No, 1311 01:23:39,180 --> 01:23:44,100 my dad was there. And but this is where this is where you will 1312 01:23:44,100 --> 01:23:48,390 always get vetted when you came back for somewhere. Like so. So 1313 01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:55,110 how, what happened? Cuz it was you see something, say something 1314 01:23:55,110 --> 01:23:57,240 in the house? Like if you see some craziness going on, are you 1315 01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,210 gonna be better tell us? Are you Oh, you will be just in much 1316 01:24:00,210 --> 01:24:04,170 trouble or more trouble. If you're saying if you didn't 1317 01:24:04,170 --> 01:24:08,160 tell. So but this this thing happens. And I don't think 1318 01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:13,950 people know how widespread this was Ms. In that was math, 1319 01:24:13,950 --> 01:24:18,180 science and engineering network. This is how you got the smarter 1320 01:24:18,180 --> 01:24:20,970 kids and you go to school on Saturday and they bring you to 1321 01:24:20,970 --> 01:24:23,970 college campuses. And this kind of thing. This was the vetting 1322 01:24:23,970 --> 01:24:27,540 system to figure out who to Boulay was the next Boulais you 1323 01:24:27,540 --> 01:24:30,780 know, and once you got that it's like okay, then you go out to 1324 01:24:30,780 --> 01:24:33,390 college and then the fraternities would come in, you 1325 01:24:33,390 --> 01:24:34,560 know, it pick you 1326 01:24:34,590 --> 01:24:37,620 how do you know, the test mode? What happened? How did you fail? 1327 01:24:38,430 --> 01:24:41,370 I'm gonna tell you like, when I went into the, when I literally 1328 01:24:41,370 --> 01:24:46,890 I failed the test. So I did this several times. One was like I 1329 01:24:46,890 --> 01:24:50,880 said, fourth grade Miss Fushi class. They came in and said, We 1330 01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:54,240 want you to go over to the special kid room not that 1331 01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:59,040 special but the like the app to get ag academically gifted class 1332 01:24:59,460 --> 01:25:02,100 and they brought meaning there. And it was a weird vibe in the 1333 01:25:02,100 --> 01:25:08,580 rooms and they had like lamps instead of like the harsh. They 1334 01:25:08,580 --> 01:25:13,110 had like the Beethoven going on there saying softly. And the 1335 01:25:13,110 --> 01:25:16,770 kids got to lay on like chairs and like sofas. That was weird. 1336 01:25:16,770 --> 01:25:19,590 It was like a real nice environment. But it was strange 1337 01:25:19,590 --> 01:25:23,160 because like, it wasn't a typical classroom. And I flunked 1338 01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:28,110 the test on purpose. Because I didn't want to be separated from 1339 01:25:28,110 --> 01:25:33,360 my regular class. And then going from fourth to seventh grade. 1340 01:25:34,770 --> 01:25:37,740 When they were like, Nick, did the Freedom Rider thing. I'm 1341 01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,920 like, like, you know, this is the time my dad gave me Malcolm 1342 01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,140 X the autobiography. I'm like, Yeah, we 1343 01:25:46,380 --> 01:25:47,610 go, and 1344 01:25:47,820 --> 01:25:50,940 then he would bring me here show me how to put condoms on bananas 1345 01:25:50,940 --> 01:25:53,280 and stuff. Like, what kind of freedom right? 1346 01:25:56,130 --> 01:25:58,680 Well, we know what they're doing programming, use some smart 1347 01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:00,720 skills to not recreate 1348 01:26:01,440 --> 01:26:06,720 exactly is that and I divide? And you might think I'm capping 1349 01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:10,380 or putting on No, it was the vibe with me. It's like, I don't 1350 01:26:10,380 --> 01:26:13,200 want to be here every day in this class, or I don't want to 1351 01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:17,880 be around these people with the next kind of this was 1988. 1352 01:26:18,510 --> 01:26:24,480 No, this was 19. Okay, for gray will probably be at a no, for 1353 01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:32,520 gray will be at 990. And then and then go for, you know, 1354 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,410 saying three years. 93. 1355 01:26:34,470 --> 01:26:37,440 Yeah, this is not this is not ancient history as much as my 1356 01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:39,330 point? Of course not. 1357 01:26:39,330 --> 01:26:43,380 And they've come from my kids. They've come from home. Oh, we 1358 01:26:43,380 --> 01:26:49,860 want to put nah, nah, wow. Now, you're not gonna segregate them 1359 01:26:49,860 --> 01:26:54,450 all, you know, because I know how to end it, you know. So 1360 01:26:54,660 --> 01:26:58,410 moving forward, the point I want to make is when you do that, it 1361 01:26:58,410 --> 01:27:02,280 creates a brain drain, nobody really talks about it. On a 1362 01:27:02,310 --> 01:27:05,130 domestic scale, you hear about internationally, all we're 1363 01:27:05,130 --> 01:27:08,430 sucking all the intelligence out of India and all these other 1364 01:27:08,430 --> 01:27:12,540 places. But nobody ever talks about it, the brain drain in the 1365 01:27:12,540 --> 01:27:13,230 black community, 1366 01:27:13,380 --> 01:27:18,510 there is a thing a drain I challenge. Those who are able to 1367 01:27:18,510 --> 01:27:22,050 escape the ghetto, get a good education, and immediately go to 1368 01:27:22,050 --> 01:27:30,480 work for boring. Deal, whoever that dreams, talent, brain power 1369 01:27:30,480 --> 01:27:34,140 from my from that same market. So if you look at it as a 1370 01:27:34,140 --> 01:27:40,890 market, we've got a lot of challenges. And so therefore, 1371 01:27:40,890 --> 01:27:45,960 the Small Business got a lot of challenges, because you deal 1372 01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:50,220 with people that don't have the money and won't conserve the 1373 01:27:50,220 --> 01:27:54,600 money. So, you know, the black consumer therefore gets less for 1374 01:27:54,600 --> 01:28:00,180 their money, because they should have doubled duty dollars as the 1375 01:28:00,180 --> 01:28:04,560 other communities that is not only get the shoes that you 1376 01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:11,100 need, but you also bolster your community. We get issues, but 1377 01:28:11,100 --> 01:28:12,030 not the community. 1378 01:28:15,060 --> 01:28:19,410 And that was Raymond V. Haysbert, he was he worked with, 1379 01:28:19,860 --> 01:28:23,250 he actually fought with the Tuskegee Airmen, and World War 1380 01:28:23,250 --> 01:28:29,130 Two, and he went on to be the CEO of Parc sausage company, and 1381 01:28:29,130 --> 01:28:32,880 one of the black first black CEOs. Well, one of the largest 1382 01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:36,600 black owned businesses in America. And he was aware of 1383 01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:41,250 this, you know, until he parted his passing in 2010. That, um, 1384 01:28:41,790 --> 01:28:46,110 this is a serious brain drain. And on top of that, what happens 1385 01:28:46,110 --> 01:28:48,390 is, and we're going to, we're just gonna be a whole show. So 1386 01:28:48,390 --> 01:28:51,540 I'm just going to touch on this right quick. Now, we talked 1387 01:28:51,540 --> 01:28:55,590 start talking about reproductive behaviors, so we can't get you 1388 01:28:55,590 --> 01:29:00,150 not to reproduce, then you start reproducing interracially 1389 01:29:00,540 --> 01:29:02,970 because if you're taking to predominantly white 1390 01:29:02,970 --> 01:29:06,090 institutions, your eyes are meeting somebody else who's 1391 01:29:06,090 --> 01:29:09,240 going to be harder, they're gonna be of another race. So 1392 01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:10,530 this is you see it, you 1393 01:29:10,530 --> 01:29:13,620 know, it will fix the problem that way. 1394 01:29:14,250 --> 01:29:17,340 Right, brown Jackson, you saw that with her where she met her 1395 01:29:17,340 --> 01:29:20,760 husband and she met him and I believe school, and God and 1396 01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:25,740 Kamala Harris and all these other I mean, this is and it's 1397 01:29:25,740 --> 01:29:30,960 very Sose sick in a way that they think they can create an 1398 01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:36,180 acceptable form of black. You know, and this is what really 1399 01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,010 irks me what always 1400 01:29:38,009 --> 01:29:40,499 what always gets me though, is when we talk about these things, 1401 01:29:40,499 --> 01:29:43,049 and I completely agree with the statement you're making, but 1402 01:29:43,049 --> 01:29:47,219 when you say they want, it's, it's hard. It's a hard concept 1403 01:29:47,219 --> 01:29:51,269 for people to grasp that. You're telling me that people actually 1404 01:29:51,269 --> 01:29:54,929 think this way consciously, and I don't think it's that 1405 01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:59,339 necessarily. I mean, obviously the people who are who are 1406 01:29:59,339 --> 01:30:04,439 running and and you're putting the trauma in place and making 1407 01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:09,809 and using this for psychological operations. But it's so hard to 1408 01:30:09,809 --> 01:30:12,749 imagine that people would do that consciously. 1409 01:30:13,890 --> 01:30:16,950 And this is why I love doing this show, because it's hard for 1410 01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:22,110 me not to think they would do this. Yeah, I have a, I have a 1411 01:30:22,110 --> 01:30:23,310 diametrically 1412 01:30:23,550 --> 01:30:25,230 opposed, sure, of course, 1413 01:30:25,620 --> 01:30:32,880 view of it that, you know, this is intentional. Now, what their 1414 01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:39,210 reasoning is, I humanize it is fight or flight is that it's 1415 01:30:39,210 --> 01:30:45,540 either us or them. And the fat like said the fact that they do 1416 01:30:45,540 --> 01:30:49,530 it. And we've seen it and they continue to do it. It's been 1417 01:30:49,530 --> 01:30:52,680 pointed out and they can tell you to do it. We saw that what 1418 01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,680 happened with all we understand Tuskegee, and everything like 1419 01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:58,320 that, but then they come back with the vaccine. He was saying, 1420 01:30:58,320 --> 01:30:59,400 so it's like, how can 1421 01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,060 we understand you got trauma, but take it anyway. 1422 01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:06,659 Right there in the in the way they come at us dancing and rap 1423 01:31:06,659 --> 01:31:10,229 songs. Yeah, I'm saying like, Yeah, dude, not a serious 1424 01:31:10,229 --> 01:31:12,599 conversation. It's like, oh, yeah, you're seeing a spike 1425 01:31:12,599 --> 01:31:15,329 protein is like poking, you know, saying with the game, you 1426 01:31:15,329 --> 01:31:18,029 know, we come through and display everything up. That's 1427 01:31:18,029 --> 01:31:20,699 what the swipe protein is, like, why are you talking to me like 1428 01:31:20,699 --> 01:31:25,379 that? And why are you using Tyler Perry to do it? You see 1429 01:31:25,379 --> 01:31:30,119 what saying that? I cannot? And I wish I could. I know you're 1430 01:31:30,119 --> 01:31:31,829 kind of like, give you a sample. 1431 01:31:31,860 --> 01:31:35,220 I know you as a friend. To understand how you feel. 1432 01:31:35,670 --> 01:31:38,760 Completely. And I and I, you know, especially we're back in 1433 01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,280 the show, we're doing this my head like, oh, okay, yes, of 1434 01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:43,980 course, I get what you're saying. And that's 1435 01:31:43,980 --> 01:31:47,850 what seductive about it that you can get. Not you but people can 1436 01:31:47,850 --> 01:31:52,050 say you sure they this is intentional. I mean, like, when 1437 01:31:52,050 --> 01:31:55,230 I say to you like all the things, it's kind of like when 1438 01:31:55,230 --> 01:31:59,430 you first seem like this is a big play. You know, I'll 1439 01:31:59,430 --> 01:32:02,700 everything like the New World Order wherever else, you kind of 1440 01:32:02,700 --> 01:32:04,470 want to unsee it. It's like, 1441 01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:10,800 it's okay, this became a lot easier for me in this year, and 1442 01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:15,570 we've talked about this. The reason I started to look into 1443 01:32:15,570 --> 01:32:19,620 the biggest conspiracy theory of all Jesus is he was he really Is 1444 01:32:19,620 --> 01:32:25,950 he real? Right? Is because of the obvious evil that's in the 1445 01:32:25,950 --> 01:32:28,350 world. And if there's evil in the world, there's got to be a 1446 01:32:28,350 --> 01:32:31,950 counterbalance. So you it's for me, it's like I can't believe in 1447 01:32:31,950 --> 01:32:35,250 the good of God without knowing that there's that there's the 1448 01:32:35,250 --> 01:32:37,530 other side. And that's, that's what's operating. 1449 01:32:38,910 --> 01:32:45,720 And just to lend to you Malines imagine how every other 1450 01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:50,550 religion, you can't talk about. You can't talk about Judaism, 1451 01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:54,210 you can't talk about Islam. But Christians, you can renew up and 1452 01:32:54,210 --> 01:32:58,320 down, like a dome that you can say whatever you want, you can 1453 01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,590 make mockery, all these other things. If you say that about 1454 01:33:01,590 --> 01:33:06,300 Muhammad, or you're saying or Judaism, you get cancelled. So 1455 01:33:06,300 --> 01:33:09,960 when you start to see that, it's like, there's a conspiracy. 1456 01:33:10,020 --> 01:33:16,980 Yeah. So I just say that moving on, Malcolm X, this is him. And 1457 01:33:16,980 --> 01:33:20,490 he talks about whether we need to have integrated schools or 1458 01:33:20,490 --> 01:33:22,380 not. And if they're beneficial, 1459 01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:26,940 as your organization encourage members to attempt to enter 1460 01:33:26,970 --> 01:33:28,710 schools that have been known as all white, 1461 01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,650 the Honorable Elijah Muhammad doesn't discourage us from 1462 01:33:31,650 --> 01:33:35,640 attaining white schools. But he does say that it is better for 1463 01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:38,730 us to go to our own schools. And after we have a thorough 1464 01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:43,470 knowledge of ourselves, if our own kind, and racial dignity has 1465 01:33:43,470 --> 01:33:47,280 been instilled within us, then we can go to any one school and 1466 01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:51,630 we will still retain our race, pride, our racial dignity, and 1467 01:33:51,630 --> 01:33:55,650 we will be able to avoid this subservient inferiority complex 1468 01:33:55,860 --> 01:34:00,450 that most Negroes have, or that is instilled within most Negroes 1469 01:34:00,570 --> 01:34:03,810 who received this sort of integrated education. 1470 01:34:04,020 --> 01:34:07,380 You have the subservient inferiority complex. 1471 01:34:09,090 --> 01:34:15,420 So that that's what's missing, is that racial pride? And that 1472 01:34:15,420 --> 01:34:20,340 racial underpinnings? I mean, we're having kids now. The 1473 01:34:20,340 --> 01:34:23,880 mother takes them back to daycare at six weeks. They're 1474 01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:28,500 raising the daycare housing warehousing institution, he will 1475 01:34:28,500 --> 01:34:32,490 say up until public school, then they go to public schools. No 1476 01:34:32,490 --> 01:34:35,940 sense of community, you know, I mean, just the average, they say 1477 01:34:35,940 --> 01:34:38,700 the average without making this about single mothers or what a 1478 01:34:38,700 --> 01:34:42,510 single parent, the parents all working, the child is raised by, 1479 01:34:42,510 --> 01:34:45,930 you know, the daycare. There's no sense of community, you pick 1480 01:34:45,930 --> 01:34:47,610 them up at five o'clock, you bring them home, you feed them, 1481 01:34:47,610 --> 01:34:50,040 you play with them a little bit. I mean, there's no sense of 1482 01:34:50,070 --> 01:34:53,250 community. The thing was like, I'm like one of the last 1483 01:34:53,250 --> 01:34:57,480 generations that had that sense of community, even though it 1484 01:34:57,480 --> 01:35:05,700 wasn't like you were saying it was it was isn't perfect, but I 1485 01:35:05,700 --> 01:35:09,540 know who I am. So when I went to school, I wasn't looking to be 1486 01:35:09,540 --> 01:35:13,860 taught who I was. It was I was looking to be taught who I could 1487 01:35:13,860 --> 01:35:17,790 become. He was saying like it, but now it's like, go back to 1488 01:35:17,790 --> 01:35:22,110 CRT for me. You're a victim. That's the oppressor. You're 1489 01:35:22,110 --> 01:35:26,130 saying, and this is your a lot in life. Imagine being raised 1490 01:35:26,130 --> 01:35:29,910 like that. Nobody's countering that. So 1491 01:35:30,239 --> 01:35:35,279 except us here on the show. Hello. We're giving it a good 1492 01:35:35,279 --> 01:35:35,879 go. 1493 01:35:36,599 --> 01:35:39,089 Where you want to remind the people what we actually do? Yes. 1494 01:35:39,089 --> 01:35:39,359 And 1495 01:35:39,990 --> 01:35:44,400 it was interesting. The pastor at the church here, said, Hey, 1496 01:35:44,490 --> 01:35:47,130 you know, you talk about these? What is this? What's this mo 1497 01:35:47,130 --> 01:35:51,600 guy. So you should listen to the show. And, and I ran through it, 1498 01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:54,210 I said, you know, what we're doing here is exactly what 1499 01:35:54,210 --> 01:35:56,250 Malcolm X said, first, the 1500 01:35:56,250 --> 01:35:59,490 white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the 1501 01:35:59,490 --> 01:36:02,760 same table, the white man has to feel free to speak his mind 1502 01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:05,550 without hurting the feelings of that negro. And the so called 1503 01:36:05,550 --> 01:36:08,580 Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the 1504 01:36:08,580 --> 01:36:11,370 feelings of the white man, then they can bring the issues that 1505 01:36:11,370 --> 01:36:13,710 are under the rug out on top of the table and take an 1506 01:36:13,710 --> 01:36:15,720 intelligent approach to get the problem solved. 1507 01:36:15,750 --> 01:36:17,460 That's the only way we'll ever do it. 1508 01:36:19,170 --> 01:36:21,930 And that's exactly what I said. I said, you know, listen to 1509 01:36:21,930 --> 01:36:25,980 this. And all of a sudden, it became clear. Ah, that makes a 1510 01:36:25,980 --> 01:36:29,010 lot of sense. So yeah, we just got to that level right away. No 1511 01:36:29,010 --> 01:36:32,010 problem whatsoever. And I've learned more because of our open 1512 01:36:32,010 --> 01:36:34,650 and honest conversation than I ever thought possible. I thought 1513 01:36:34,650 --> 01:36:36,420 I knew. And 1514 01:36:36,450 --> 01:36:40,260 you've given me a lens into a world I didn't know. No. I mean, 1515 01:36:40,260 --> 01:36:43,230 like we say out Ahmet Deion Sanders, I know this person or 1516 01:36:43,500 --> 01:36:46,650 it was like, okay, that's how they operate. 1517 01:36:47,670 --> 01:36:51,480 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. This has value for value. And 1518 01:36:51,480 --> 01:36:55,980 although we've been irregular recently, you know, as we're 1519 01:36:55,980 --> 01:36:59,790 waving goodbye to 2022 2023 has a lot of good things in store. 1520 01:36:59,790 --> 01:37:03,000 And we really appreciate people supporting the show. And the 1521 01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:06,810 only way that is possible, we cannot take corporate money to 1522 01:37:06,810 --> 01:37:10,050 advertisers will never touch this. We're lucky to be 1523 01:37:10,050 --> 01:37:13,230 podcasting. 2.0 To even still be on the air. As far as I'm 1524 01:37:13,230 --> 01:37:16,080 concerned, I'm sure that we'd be we'd have all kinds of issues. 1525 01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:20,430 So we appreciate the support you give us. And the way it works is 1526 01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,940 whatever you take away from this podcast, if you find it valuable 1527 01:37:23,940 --> 01:37:27,900 for whatever reason, whatever that value is to you send it 1528 01:37:27,900 --> 01:37:30,660 back to us. That's all that we ask. We feel that this is 1529 01:37:30,660 --> 01:37:33,930 something of value. We can't look at anyone's pocketbook or 1530 01:37:33,930 --> 01:37:38,370 circumstance. So $5 may be a lot for you, if that's the value, 1531 01:37:38,370 --> 01:37:41,670 and it's a lot for you. We appreciate it really do. And 1532 01:37:41,670 --> 01:37:44,700 we'd like to thank these people as our executive and Associate 1533 01:37:44,700 --> 01:37:49,200 Executive producers. So these are coming from mainly from show 1534 01:37:49,230 --> 01:37:54,360 87 We have the lucky 88 Today, which the Chinese would consider 1535 01:37:54,390 --> 01:37:58,350 lucky. In other places eight eight is a whole other whole 1536 01:37:58,350 --> 01:38:03,750 other thing that we've just realized like at always lucky 1537 01:38:03,750 --> 01:38:06,570 for everybody, but we want to kick it off by thanking Jim 1538 01:38:06,570 --> 01:38:10,050 Lavin, Jim Lavin. Without a doubt Bala 1539 01:38:10,110 --> 01:38:15,300 Sakala 20 his blades on the Impala $1,000 1540 01:38:15,300 --> 01:38:18,540 We could not be more grateful for that. Jimmy says love what 1541 01:38:18,540 --> 01:38:20,790 you and Adam are doing well, I've learned a lot. It's been a 1542 01:38:20,790 --> 01:38:23,730 while. But I need to give you a little summary on this. I can 1543 01:38:24,330 --> 01:38:29,010 expand my spreadsheet here. I'm sorry. Oh, goodness. This is a 1544 01:38:29,250 --> 01:38:34,230 long long note here. How did I Oh, I got to reposition this. 1545 01:38:34,230 --> 01:38:37,440 Let me just reformat and even seen how long some this is 1546 01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:38,610 beautiful. These notes. 1547 01:38:39,030 --> 01:38:40,650 I don't think as long as it no 1548 01:38:40,650 --> 01:38:44,160 no, it's just went off the screen. Right? Because what 1549 01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:48,270 happens going physically long? Yeah, exactly. A second. This is 1550 01:38:49,230 --> 01:38:51,780 okay. It's been a while but I need to give you a little 1551 01:38:51,780 --> 01:38:55,020 something. Something Something to keep you moving forwards from 1552 01:38:55,020 --> 01:39:00,270 Sir RTR. Oh, taco, Duke of North East Texas and the Red River 1553 01:39:00,270 --> 01:39:03,630 Valley. And is there something else he says here? The Red River 1554 01:39:03,630 --> 01:39:07,860 Valley? Oh, yeah. From the no agenda nation. There we go. 1555 01:39:07,860 --> 01:39:10,680 $1,000 We really appreciate that. Jim, thank you so much. 1556 01:39:10,860 --> 01:39:13,530 Thank you very much. James Lawler comes in at 200 for an 1557 01:39:13,530 --> 01:39:16,170 executive producer ship. It's been too long for me, brothers. 1558 01:39:16,710 --> 01:39:19,650 Back at you. May God bless you with this and help you in this 1559 01:39:19,650 --> 01:39:23,310 next chapter of life. Karma love, peace and joy to you and 1560 01:39:23,340 --> 01:39:25,020 Adam as well. Thank you very much, sir. 1561 01:39:25,710 --> 01:39:29,880 Can I say something right there. Please do it too long, longer 1562 01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:33,180 show better show? Oh, yeah. No, I I want to say so I do want 1563 01:39:33,180 --> 01:39:38,340 that people. I listen to 104 separate pieces of information 1564 01:39:38,340 --> 01:39:41,460 to put this show together. So ranging up to three hours. So 1565 01:39:41,460 --> 01:39:44,670 I'm just saying that longer show is not that I stopped working on 1566 01:39:44,670 --> 01:39:48,000 it. Is that okay, now I gotta go back up the age. You know, Adam, 1567 01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,990 I'll make the changes up as the show was going on? Oh, yeah. 1568 01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:55,140 Even with the swapping of clips, it's because I wanted to make 1569 01:39:55,140 --> 01:39:57,660 the best product possible for the producers. And 1570 01:39:57,690 --> 01:40:00,000 just just to clarify what I was talking about. It was too long. 1571 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,350 On for the spreadsheet I hadn't I hadn't formatted it. So I went 1572 01:40:04,350 --> 01:40:04,680 off the 1573 01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,650 cold speaking about James. James is that yeah, yeah, I 1574 01:40:07,650 --> 01:40:12,720 gotcha. I gotcha. Taylor butcher $200 value for value. How do I 1575 01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:15,660 send a note you just did Taylor. So do whatever you were doing 1576 01:40:15,660 --> 01:40:17,400 that works perfectly and appreciate it. 1577 01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:24,000 Also, same wonder mofaz.com mo fax@gmail.com. If you want to, 1578 01:40:24,030 --> 01:40:28,920 we want to address your actual note. So we can we will read it 1579 01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:29,610 on the next show. 1580 01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:34,020 Now we have three in a row from Tavita Willis. I think I'm 1581 01:40:34,020 --> 01:40:37,020 pronouncing that correctly. So we got a 50, a 50, and a five. 1582 01:40:37,020 --> 01:40:40,140 So that's 105 combined. That is definitely executive producer 1583 01:40:40,140 --> 01:40:47,310 territory. And Ty Taj Bo says, I'm binging bringing the value. 1584 01:40:47,310 --> 01:40:50,490 Thank you. And your smooth cat keep it up. Well, that's 1585 01:40:50,490 --> 01:40:55,230 obviously for you. Oh, there you go. Kyle, man, I think it's Kyle 1586 01:40:55,230 --> 01:40:58,770 and Kyle. I think it's Kyle $100 No, no, but thank you so much. 1587 01:40:59,220 --> 01:41:05,100 Josiah Hendrickson. 8888 Well, right on target for this one. 1588 01:41:05,430 --> 01:41:09,060 GBG y'all Wait, did we have a jingle for GPG? Yes, we do. Yes, 1589 01:41:09,060 --> 01:41:18,090 we do. I remember some of that we got the GBG we give blackston 1590 01:41:18,090 --> 01:41:23,400 jaw Thank you very much desire Melissa Reeves 85 dot 89 1591 01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:27,750 services rendered and so forth. Now this has 16 donations 1592 01:41:27,810 --> 01:41:33,630 16 separate donations, CDs books and through to fiat way not 1593 01:41:34,620 --> 01:41:37,920 just sending one after another. I love that. Thank you very 1594 01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:41,310 much, Melissa. That's great Brandon Archer 85 Free yay and 1595 01:41:41,310 --> 01:41:45,450 Kyrie well, they're they're free men, I guess for gay is a free 1596 01:41:45,450 --> 01:41:49,710 man for sure, Kyrie Yep, no, we still got some work to do 1597 01:41:49,710 --> 01:41:54,000 probably. It's not easy for Kyrie anonymous $60 Thanks 1598 01:41:54,030 --> 01:41:57,450 looking forward to hearing the next one your wish is has come 1599 01:41:57,450 --> 01:42:00,990 true. Here we are. Thank you very much anonymous. Dame slant 1600 01:42:00,990 --> 01:42:03,660 slay me Dame slay me Merry Christmas to you and your 1601 01:42:03,660 --> 01:42:07,800 families Mo and Adam Cheers to a better 2023 $50 Dame slimy Thank 1602 01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:11,580 you. She is all over Gitmo nation no agenda nation mo facts 1603 01:42:11,580 --> 01:42:15,360 everywhere we love her. A big supporter of of all the shows 1604 01:42:16,380 --> 01:42:19,140 $50 from Benjamin missing you and the great Adam curry. Here 1605 01:42:19,140 --> 01:42:21,990 we are, you can always count on us to come back eventually. And 1606 01:42:21,990 --> 01:42:26,490 we're doing our best we really are. Capital T sends $50 donated 1607 01:42:26,490 --> 01:42:29,910 before I've listened because the show title already reveals this 1608 01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:33,240 is going to be worth it. Good to have you back MO That was the 1609 01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:35,670 previous episode was the title of the previous one. But did we 1610 01:42:35,670 --> 01:42:40,110 title that they end? Oh yeah. And of course, everybody. 1611 01:42:40,290 --> 01:42:43,830 Everybody loved that. These by the way our Associate Executive 1612 01:42:43,830 --> 01:42:47,670 produces the $50 level and we have Edwin Taurus at also asking 1613 01:42:47,670 --> 01:42:57,360 for a GBG we get the black guns. James Paul us polos who lost 1614 01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:01,050 $50? No, nope, thank you very much. We have Jermaine Causton 1615 01:43:01,050 --> 01:43:04,440 with $50 says Love your show wanted to share a relevant story 1616 01:43:04,440 --> 01:43:09,420 experience while visiting New Orleans. A racially ambiguous 1617 01:43:09,420 --> 01:43:13,380 half black a DOS I assume that was the culture I grew up in as 1618 01:43:13,380 --> 01:43:17,100 a kid and half white. I've been to Nola twice, and I've often 1619 01:43:17,100 --> 01:43:19,800 noticed strange reactions from people because of my skin color 1620 01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:23,520 and hair. I feel somewhat of a novelty. I learned on museum 1621 01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:27,120 tours about Noah's rich history and as a melting pot of varying 1622 01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:30,300 cultures. In fact, the Arcadians of French descent who migrated 1623 01:43:30,300 --> 01:43:33,270 to Louisiana eventually became Cajuns because of the Louisiana 1624 01:43:33,300 --> 01:43:37,050 Louisiana accent. While staying in a hostel with my girlfriend, 1625 01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:41,130 I learned from the locals about the Octoroon. Basically, back in 1626 01:43:41,130 --> 01:43:44,460 the day, brothels used to have menus based on appearance, hair 1627 01:43:44,460 --> 01:43:48,510 texture, skin color, etc. By the way, that Thailand still has 1628 01:43:48,510 --> 01:43:52,350 that the most expensive item on the menu was the Octoroon, who 1629 01:43:52,350 --> 01:43:55,290 was so mixed that you couldn't tell what her racial background 1630 01:43:55,290 --> 01:43:58,470 was. Thanks for your great work. I'm doing my best to spread the 1631 01:43:58,470 --> 01:44:01,500 word God bless from Jermaine. Wow, that's have we talked about 1632 01:44:01,500 --> 01:44:02,970 the Octoroon? I don't remember this. 1633 01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:07,380 I think we talked about it not specifically. But in those 1634 01:44:07,380 --> 01:44:11,400 terms. But we talked about it in passing on the passing episode 1635 01:44:12,300 --> 01:44:12,960 with Pinky. 1636 01:44:13,649 --> 01:44:17,399 Oh, I would say that New Orleans right now has become incredibly 1637 01:44:17,399 --> 01:44:23,609 woke. So you know, it may not be the New Orleans of of lore. So 1638 01:44:23,639 --> 01:44:26,069 you know how you're looked at? I don't know. What do you think? 1639 01:44:26,069 --> 01:44:26,399 Well, 1640 01:44:27,750 --> 01:44:33,180 as he spoke to me, it was New Orleans was a very mixed place. 1641 01:44:33,630 --> 01:44:36,660 And you had to clear you know, the occasions and the you had 1642 01:44:36,660 --> 01:44:41,640 the after rooms optimum room means you're 1/8 Right, right. 1643 01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:45,540 Right, right. Quadroon means you're 1/4 Black lotto means 1644 01:44:45,540 --> 01:44:48,780 you're half black, and that goes to one drop room because if you 1645 01:44:48,780 --> 01:44:53,550 want 16th Then you could venture over and say being white again. 1646 01:44:54,330 --> 01:44:59,070 Fresh that was now saying that's the legal one drop definition 1647 01:44:59,070 --> 01:45:02,220 for the one drop rule. So this is why the Octoroon was the 1648 01:45:02,490 --> 01:45:05,400 highest thing and this is the hierarchy I'm talking about. 1649 01:45:05,550 --> 01:45:08,250 This is just another version of your different Yeah. 1650 01:45:08,910 --> 01:45:13,440 Right. Different especial. Octoroon Yeah, got it. Yep. Matt 1651 01:45:13,440 --> 01:45:18,420 be $50 Episode 87 was worth 10 listens right up there with the 1652 01:45:18,420 --> 01:45:21,510 Tupac work. Wow, man. Thank you. There you go. That's a big 1653 01:45:21,510 --> 01:45:26,520 compliment. Michael Romano $50. Appreciate that Michael Scott 1654 01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:30,810 are with $50 and he says, here's another donation. Appreciate 1655 01:45:30,810 --> 01:45:35,160 that. Now, we're gonna get to the donations below the $50 1656 01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:38,040 level, we still we still a very predictable we break these 1657 01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:43,380 segments into two genuis wanna read Carol chases note is 40 1658 01:45:43,769 --> 01:45:46,739 that repeat this is a I put it on the last show but I put it 1659 01:45:46,739 --> 01:45:49,349 intentionally again for another show. Probably for there's a 1660 01:45:49,349 --> 01:45:50,609 reason you got to read it. But I 1661 01:45:50,610 --> 01:45:53,100 just I wanted to read it. It was really beautiful. I'm a listener 1662 01:45:53,100 --> 01:45:55,740 subscriber and donor to the MO facts with Adam curry. I haven't 1663 01:45:55,740 --> 01:45:57,990 seen an episode drop for a while. I'm wondering how you're 1664 01:45:57,990 --> 01:46:00,840 doing. Is there anything I can be praying for for you and your 1665 01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:04,950 family? Carolyn bareness of southern Colorado? Yeah, 1666 01:46:05,370 --> 01:46:09,780 absolutely. I would appreciate any prayers that would get our 1667 01:46:09,780 --> 01:46:15,750 show. as regular as possible. We've had a lot of challenges, 1668 01:46:15,750 --> 01:46:19,260 life challenges, technical challenges, I mean, health 1669 01:46:19,260 --> 01:46:22,560 challenges, so many things. And we've we discussed this all the 1670 01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:26,580 time. This is the hardest show to make. Not that it's hard to 1671 01:46:26,580 --> 01:46:30,480 do once we're doing it. It's hard to do because it's like a 1672 01:46:30,480 --> 01:46:33,510 wedge is always driven between us somehow, would you agree? 1673 01:46:34,050 --> 01:46:37,320 I would totally agree with the spirit some things that you 1674 01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:40,350 can't even explain in the setting up and recording of the 1675 01:46:40,350 --> 01:46:44,280 show. But I think that one of the greatest forms of value, if 1676 01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:48,390 not the greatest is to prey on him for the non praise. We're 1677 01:46:48,390 --> 01:46:51,900 sitting in well wishes because that's hopefully it manifests 1678 01:46:51,930 --> 01:46:54,720 itself and you're saying what you're good attention. So keep 1679 01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,270 it coming. That's why I put this note in for a second time I 1680 01:46:57,270 --> 01:47:00,600 appreciate even if you don't have value to share, you know, 1681 01:47:01,020 --> 01:47:06,180 you always have value to share. It was a sin prayer in well, 1682 01:47:06,180 --> 01:47:06,480 which is 1683 01:47:06,930 --> 01:47:09,720 that's highly, highly appreciated. I'll also run 1684 01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:12,900 through our boosters real quick since the numbers have grown 1685 01:47:12,900 --> 01:47:16,800 since we since we last did the show, which is nice to see. Dred 1686 01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:22,920 Scott sent us 200,001 Satoshis which is a huge boost for us and 1687 01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:27,360 of course Dr already does stuff force in value and with time and 1688 01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:31,110 talent during the chapters. Now you can pretend this is the 1689 01:47:31,110 --> 01:47:34,560 future by the way. Eventually just look at the news about Pay 1690 01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,710 Pal and and everything else it make it very difficult to 1691 01:47:37,710 --> 01:47:41,040 support this show in that manner. So go to new podcast 1692 01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:44,700 apps.com get a one of the podcast apps that does value for 1693 01:47:44,700 --> 01:47:49,230 value. I'll make it easy for you. Fountain pod verse cast 1694 01:47:49,230 --> 01:47:52,590 thematic, these are the ones that I like a lot. You can put 1695 01:47:52,590 --> 01:47:55,530 little bits of Bitcoin in that you can you can fill it up from 1696 01:47:55,530 --> 01:47:59,010 your cash app, it's not that hard anymore. Fountain if you've 1697 01:47:59,010 --> 01:48:01,740 never done it before, might be the easiest to get get the hang 1698 01:48:01,740 --> 01:48:05,160 on. This is this is and you can and you can do this while you're 1699 01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:07,230 listening. You could say Oh, this is great. I just want to 1700 01:48:07,230 --> 01:48:09,660 hit the boost button. I want to send a message and it pops up 1701 01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,000 and we can read it back here. So I'll just run through these 1702 01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:15,690 drips as feeding the fax machine to see if any new shows pop out. 1703 01:48:16,500 --> 01:48:24,000 As I said I miss you guys and he says was it go podcasting? Okay, 1704 01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:27,300 very much. Thank you very much Dr. drab who gives him so many 1705 01:48:27,300 --> 01:48:35,850 waves? We have Jacob Davis 123456 123,456 Thanks for a 1706 01:48:35,850 --> 01:48:38,250 great show. Always appreciate your measured discussions and 1707 01:48:38,250 --> 01:48:41,100 ability to talk about things that no one else would. The 1708 01:48:41,100 --> 01:48:45,960 discussion in UAE is especially enlightening. 100 and 1001 from 1709 01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:49,830 absurd int was just a big fire emoji. Thank you sir Dwayne 1710 01:48:49,830 --> 01:48:53,490 Milan Psalm who doesn't know him. Yay. Are they Fantastic? 1711 01:48:53,490 --> 01:48:58,440 Well worth waiting for just wow. 90,000 SATs and he sent that 1712 01:48:58,440 --> 01:49:02,730 from CAST ematic iOS only but if you like overcast you'll love 1713 01:49:02,730 --> 01:49:09,480 cast ematic Hendrix 88,888 right for this show. Here's where my 1714 01:49:09,480 --> 01:49:14,760 episode where's my episode? 88 He says here it is. Here it is. 1715 01:49:16,350 --> 01:49:22,470 We have 80,085 from RG BTC as always fascinating conversation. 1716 01:49:22,470 --> 01:49:33,060 I'd love some love some mo karma. And you go you've got JL 1717 01:49:33,270 --> 01:49:38,250 gr jail jail ta from Texas. I guess I sent three in a row 1718 01:49:38,250 --> 01:49:43,830 51,000 41,000 35,225 for another one and 35,000 so that's 1719 01:49:43,830 --> 01:49:46,680 probably worth a big baller combined nice. 1720 01:49:47,550 --> 01:49:51,930 20 is blades on the Impala 33,333 1721 01:49:51,930 --> 01:49:54,960 The magic numbers from sarzo Thank you always for giving me 1722 01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:57,870 new perspective paying attention to everything that's right. The 1723 01:49:57,870 --> 01:50:03,330 truth will reveal itself. Jean Ever 33,000 says boost boost 1724 01:50:03,330 --> 01:50:07,530 boost we got you ma'am. And there's JL ta TX T again 1725 01:50:07,530 --> 01:50:12,690 90 29,500 Merlin with 20,000 coming from pod friend haven't 1726 01:50:12,690 --> 01:50:15,660 seen that one in a while Good to see it. Hey Adam not sure if you 1727 01:50:15,660 --> 01:50:19,110 can use this but the chorus from hell to the knob by Bishop 1728 01:50:19,110 --> 01:50:23,490 Bullwinkle would become your most popular jingle. I didn't 1729 01:50:23,490 --> 01:50:26,940 see that in time. Otherwise I picked it up. That's our GBTC 1730 01:50:26,940 --> 01:50:32,610 with 18,000 Hey citizens 16,969 says thank you a big boost from 1731 01:50:32,610 --> 01:50:39,870 Clarkie and with 15,000 13,000 from I think it's one in a novel 1732 01:50:39,870 --> 01:50:43,680 in one you have big fans in Hawaii. Thank you. We'll come 1733 01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:48,990 out and do a meet up 12,345 from anonymous cast ematic Todd in 1734 01:50:48,990 --> 01:50:52,530 Northern Virginia right up in your neck of the woods gives us 1735 01:50:52,530 --> 01:50:57,510 a satchel of Richard's 11,111 satchel of Richards of course 1736 01:50:57,510 --> 01:51:00,960 also can be read as a bag of dicks so we understand that 1737 01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:06,000 thank you. b glass to Great show miss you this past month 10,087 1738 01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:11,040 Mitch, sent in from pod verse I think he owns pod verse 10,000 1739 01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:14,640 SATs then we have Dave Ackerman three in a row he's always 1740 01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:20,370 boosting the 88,008 his favorite boob donation and it's V for V 1741 01:51:20,370 --> 01:51:25,890 episode 87 three times in a row. Thank you very much sir 7620 1742 01:51:25,890 --> 01:51:32,700 from Kai patriot 1776 Give blacks heavy machine guns. 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And thank you all so 1777 01:53:36,359 --> 01:53:39,569 much for supporting Moe facts with Adam curry episode number 1778 01:53:39,569 --> 01:53:40,079 88. 1779 01:53:41,580 --> 01:53:46,410 Alright, so with schools being integrated, sports had to be 1780 01:53:46,410 --> 01:53:51,360 integrated as well. And I think that's why we heard Jerry Jones 1781 01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:56,760 say he got in trouble with his coaches. They stand to benefit 1782 01:53:56,790 --> 01:54:03,660 from the increased or increased pool of talent that was right in 1783 01:54:03,660 --> 01:54:08,280 their art yourself. So I'm sure they had no issue, you know, 1784 01:54:08,310 --> 01:54:12,090 other than, you know, the typical racer things, but they 1785 01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:17,070 stood to get a lot of talent to come to that school. Now we got 1786 01:54:17,070 --> 01:54:21,780 to fast for this is the football game that broke racial barriers. 1787 01:54:21,990 --> 01:54:25,350 And it was against Alabama, which was a predominantly white 1788 01:54:25,350 --> 01:54:29,130 institution that hadn't integrated yet against USC 1789 01:54:29,130 --> 01:54:32,010 University and University of Southern California who had 1790 01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:37,020 emigrated well before Alabama had. And this is another setup. 1791 01:54:37,860 --> 01:54:41,310 As you will hear when we go through these next five clips of 1792 01:54:41,340 --> 01:54:45,660 these things are not happenstance. They're oftentimes 1793 01:54:45,690 --> 01:54:48,900 orchestrated. And let's go ahead and get into clip number 23. 1794 01:54:54,149 --> 01:54:58,109 In 1954, Brown versus Board of Education overturned the 1795 01:54:58,109 --> 01:55:02,129 separate but equal policy in school rules and the 1964 Civil 1796 01:55:02,129 --> 01:55:05,699 Rights Act ended public racial discrimination. But although the 1797 01:55:05,699 --> 01:55:09,179 federal government mandated integration, attitudes hadn't 1798 01:55:09,179 --> 01:55:12,989 changed, and in the south Jim Crow continued to haunt college 1799 01:55:12,989 --> 01:55:17,609 football, as late as 1969, the southern most teams in the SEC, 1800 01:55:17,699 --> 01:55:19,409 were still completely white. 1801 01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:26,430 A lot of great players from the South were either they either 1802 01:55:26,430 --> 01:55:30,750 had to play at the historically black institutions, or if they 1803 01:55:30,750 --> 01:55:33,930 wanted to play in the major universities, they had to go out 1804 01:55:33,930 --> 01:55:36,750 west go up north. So a lot of talent was leaving the 1805 01:55:36,750 --> 01:55:37,830 Southeastern Conference. 1806 01:55:38,399 --> 01:55:41,969 The South was starting to see some of their programs go down a 1807 01:55:41,969 --> 01:55:44,759 little bit, but the University of Alabama maintain their 1808 01:55:44,759 --> 01:55:47,249 dominance. They won three national championships in 1809 01:55:47,249 --> 01:55:53,129 1961 64 and 65, and should have won in 66. So what this did was 1810 01:55:53,129 --> 01:55:56,309 it created in the minds of Alabama football fans and fans 1811 01:55:56,309 --> 01:55:59,609 in the SEC, the idea that you didn't need to desegregate. 1812 01:55:59,969 --> 01:56:01,439 Yeah. Okay. 1813 01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:02,610 This is great history. 1814 01:56:03,479 --> 01:56:07,289 Yeah, it seems all connected. You know, starting with brown, 1815 01:56:07,769 --> 01:56:12,209 you see the ripple effects of that one piece of legislation 1816 01:56:12,479 --> 01:56:19,709 and court action to affect all walks of life. So, the funny 1817 01:56:19,709 --> 01:56:26,849 thing is, is that the SEC, the southern eff was southern. Ah, 1818 01:56:26,879 --> 01:56:32,579 I'm gonna lose my sports card. South ASun Conference, I would 1819 01:56:32,579 --> 01:56:37,109 think it was what stands for they're right in the south, 1820 01:56:37,439 --> 01:56:42,539 where Texas that can include that Louisiana, Georgia, 1821 01:56:42,539 --> 01:56:47,849 Alabama, Mississippi, Florida. That's football talent, you 1822 01:56:47,849 --> 01:56:52,049 know, ground zero, right? And these teams are like, No, 1823 01:56:52,049 --> 01:56:55,649 Alabama was like, We don't care. We read the wind with white 1824 01:56:55,649 --> 01:57:00,329 talent to integrate and that that goes to show you that they 1825 01:57:00,329 --> 01:57:03,779 read the put winning over breaking their tradition for 1826 01:57:03,779 --> 01:57:07,469 whatever reason, this is a breaking their traditions. And 1827 01:57:07,469 --> 01:57:10,229 that's where they kept it and we see this even with sports today, 1828 01:57:10,229 --> 01:57:14,729 there are quote unquote, white teams. Even to this day, the 1829 01:57:14,729 --> 01:57:18,479 Utah Jazz for instance, you know, they like having a 1830 01:57:18,479 --> 01:57:24,359 predominantly white star. Um, Dallas Mavericks is another one. 1831 01:57:24,869 --> 01:57:29,219 Mark Cuban loves having a white star. You know, that's kind of 1832 01:57:29,249 --> 01:57:32,699 like dirt Nowitzki. And now, Luca dachas Yeah, 1833 01:57:32,730 --> 01:57:35,520 I mean really think he loves having a white star is that he 1834 01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:39,390 that that he loves that? Boy Does he think he just loves 1835 01:57:39,390 --> 01:57:40,320 having a star. 1836 01:57:41,340 --> 01:57:47,580 Trust me in sports. Because it's this it's this phenomenon called 1837 01:57:47,580 --> 01:57:51,000 the Great White hype. I don't know if you heard it, you start 1838 01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:54,990 hearing in boxing or whatever. Yeah. Right. You're saying like, 1839 01:57:55,020 --> 01:57:59,040 is he not that he personally feels that way. But he 1840 01:57:59,100 --> 01:58:03,570 understands his demographic. And he's fans. And if you can have a 1841 01:58:03,570 --> 01:58:06,120 star I mean, you have to be first crop qualification is a 1842 01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:09,750 star. It was that you had to be great at what you're doing. But 1843 01:58:09,750 --> 01:58:14,040 then we have Boston Larry Bird the same thing that Larry Bird 1844 01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:16,230 and you're saying in Boston hit a little different you were 1845 01:58:16,230 --> 01:58:19,620 saying with the Combine that with the city, the city's 1846 01:58:19,650 --> 01:58:23,100 attitude, and it being a white athlete, right. So that's why 1847 01:58:23,100 --> 01:58:26,370 I'm saying Utah you're saying you have John Stockton is 1848 01:58:26,370 --> 01:58:27,120 noticeable 1849 01:58:27,150 --> 01:58:29,910 even for me I look at who is using this team? Oh, that's 1850 01:58:29,910 --> 01:58:30,540 Utah. Okay. 1851 01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:34,860 For whatever reason, like I said, this is you see this 1852 01:58:34,860 --> 01:58:35,400 happens so 1853 01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:38,070 interesting, called the jazz, you know, is where I would say 1854 01:58:38,070 --> 01:58:41,430 that few jazz greats were white. That's kind of 1855 01:58:41,490 --> 01:58:43,770 interesting. Know where they tripped. They got they, they 1856 01:58:43,770 --> 01:58:44,490 moved from 1857 01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:47,700 New Orleans. Oh, there you go. But still, they used 1858 01:58:47,700 --> 01:58:50,910 to be the New Orleans jazz, but they kept the jazz out that that 1859 01:58:50,910 --> 01:58:54,510 will baffle me of the key like, why do you Utah Jazz, like the 1860 01:58:54,510 --> 01:58:59,760 names? They left the jazz out? Because usually the city mascot 1861 01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:03,930 is something, you know, lends to what the state is known for, you 1862 01:59:03,930 --> 01:59:10,320 know, a few jazz greats come from Utah, which. So moving 1863 01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:15,060 forward, you see what's playing out here is that the 1864 01:59:15,090 --> 01:59:19,710 predominantly the schools it remained to refuse to integrate, 1865 01:59:19,860 --> 01:59:23,010 are starting to drop in status. But they needed a little help. 1866 01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:25,320 We were saying to push them down as well as you go here. And I 1867 01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:27,030 think He clipped 24 I believe. 1868 01:59:27,930 --> 01:59:31,530 Not only was Alabama enjoying success with all white football 1869 01:59:31,530 --> 01:59:33,810 teams, but the state was governed by a man who 1870 01:59:33,810 --> 01:59:37,290 deliberately played the race card to win his election. And 1871 01:59:37,290 --> 01:59:39,930 who kept a close public relationship with Coach Paul 1872 01:59:39,930 --> 01:59:40,380 Brian. 1873 01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:45,990 Fairly that was George Wallace this way of advertising. See 1874 01:59:45,990 --> 01:59:51,270 what an all white football team can do. What we didn't know was 1875 01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:54,150 the relationship between bear Brian and George Wallace was 1876 01:59:54,150 --> 01:59:59,550 very uneasy, that in fact, Brian had been needling and pushing 1877 01:59:59,550 --> 02:00:02,910 and and probing tried to integrate the Alabama football 1878 02:00:02,910 --> 02:00:04,050 team for many years. 1879 02:00:04,710 --> 02:00:08,490 We were conspiring as much as we could without rattling the 1880 02:00:08,700 --> 02:00:13,170 governor's situation. In other games video speaks well of Coach 1881 02:00:13,170 --> 02:00:17,490 Bryant, we're state institution and the governor is not ready 1882 02:00:17,490 --> 02:00:21,420 for integration yet. A lot of our funds come from the state of 1883 02:00:21,420 --> 02:00:25,560 Alabama from the Capitol in we would like to be successful, but 1884 02:00:25,620 --> 02:00:28,380 we're going to hurt the general public. The students and 1885 02:00:28,380 --> 02:00:28,920 faculty. 1886 02:00:31,140 --> 02:00:36,090 We weren't conspiring. Yes, I heard it. And you know who 1887 02:00:36,090 --> 02:00:39,150 George Wallace says, I don't know if you know better Brian is 1888 02:00:39,150 --> 02:00:43,500 or not Wallace. Yes, Brian. No. You've seen him before. You seen 1889 02:00:43,500 --> 02:00:48,900 his image and likeness in a movie Forrest Gump. Remember the 1890 02:00:48,900 --> 02:00:52,890 football coach of Alabama? Yeah, sure. Sure. Sure. That was the 1891 02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:56,970 that was him. That was he's known for that hounds. Tooth 1892 02:00:57,660 --> 02:00:58,410 hat. 1893 02:00:59,580 --> 02:01:01,380 Okay, I gotcha. I gotcha. And 1894 02:01:01,410 --> 02:01:05,850 in here, I think they're doing a little bit of cleaning up his 1895 02:01:05,850 --> 02:01:11,700 image with this piece as well because he's very valuable to 1896 02:01:11,700 --> 02:01:17,250 the Allah University of Alabama's legacy. So you see 1897 02:01:17,250 --> 02:01:20,730 that you have to clean up like kind of rewrite history is 1898 02:01:20,730 --> 02:01:23,550 starting right not saying he wasn't pushing for talent, but 1899 02:01:23,550 --> 02:01:26,010 they make you're saying like that, you know, this benevolent 1900 02:01:28,620 --> 02:01:32,400 person that has this insight to say, You know what, we need to 1901 02:01:32,790 --> 02:01:36,510 integrate schools. Yeah, yeah. Maybe you hear if you listen to 1902 02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:39,600 the nuance and how they're saying, oh, you know, we were 1903 02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:44,820 conspiring and him it was really getting on the same page 1904 02:01:44,820 --> 02:01:49,530 together. No, no big deal. Just little conspiracy. No, he they 1905 02:01:49,530 --> 02:01:54,720 said I didn't say it. All with the conspiracy. 1906 02:01:56,399 --> 02:01:59,879 Despite championships in the early 60s, the racial factor was 1907 02:01:59,879 --> 02:02:04,319 beginning to hurt Alabama stature. Bryan's team finished 1908 02:02:04,319 --> 02:02:08,699 the 1966 season unbeaten and untied yet placed third in the 1909 02:02:08,699 --> 02:02:13,709 polls. The nation was simply not going to reward an all white 1910 02:02:13,709 --> 02:02:18,689 team and had become the flagship for segregation. By the late 1911 02:02:18,689 --> 02:02:22,949 1960s, the Crimson Tide was turning. And after a subpar 69 1912 02:02:22,949 --> 02:02:25,949 season, they were no longer reminiscent of a championship 1913 02:02:25,949 --> 02:02:26,279 team 1914 02:02:29,100 --> 02:02:32,490 is 69 there were people calling for his resignation, he said 1915 02:02:32,580 --> 02:02:35,370 game had passed and by it was time for Coach Bryant to go. 1916 02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:38,220 But we knew we had to get bigger, stronger, faster 1917 02:02:38,220 --> 02:02:43,260 players. And a large majority of the bigger, stronger, faster 1918 02:02:43,260 --> 02:02:45,420 player for Black. We did 1919 02:02:45,420 --> 02:02:50,370 have a African American on the team. But he was a freshman and 1920 02:02:50,370 --> 02:02:55,350 didn't dress, Wilbur Jackson, I think it was coming. And Coach 1921 02:02:55,350 --> 02:02:58,950 Bryant was you know, allowing it to happen slowly, it 1922 02:02:58,950 --> 02:03:02,610 was finally time for Bryan to make his move to convince people 1923 02:03:02,610 --> 02:03:05,790 that in order to start winning, again, Alabama was going to have 1924 02:03:05,790 --> 02:03:09,480 to fully commit to integration. But to do so he needed to set an 1925 02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:09,990 example. 1926 02:03:17,220 --> 02:03:21,570 So once again, you hear this, they need it bigger, stronger, 1927 02:03:21,570 --> 02:03:25,740 faster players and, and a large number of those were black 1928 02:03:25,740 --> 02:03:30,780 players. And another thing I want to point to was go back 1929 02:03:30,900 --> 02:03:33,870 because I want to Chris, you don't know sports, college 1930 02:03:33,870 --> 02:03:38,670 football, at least in this error. And my up until maybe I 1931 02:03:38,670 --> 02:03:44,400 think like maybe 1015 years ago, the AP voted on Associated Press 1932 02:03:44,400 --> 02:03:47,460 voted on who was the number one team, you have a bunch of sports 1933 02:03:47,460 --> 02:03:50,940 writers and they vote whoever got the most votes was the 1934 02:03:50,940 --> 02:03:56,550 champion. James how he could go undefeated. I'm tired become 1935 02:03:56,550 --> 02:03:59,550 number three, because you heard him say America couldn't stand 1936 02:03:59,550 --> 02:04:05,130 for, you know, him winning, being segregated. So they had to 1937 02:04:05,130 --> 02:04:08,970 lean when you talk about, hey, this is the day the media was 1938 02:04:08,970 --> 02:04:12,180 leaning on Alabama because once you start winning national 1939 02:04:12,180 --> 02:04:14,760 championships, the top players don't want to come to your 1940 02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:17,820 school anymore. I feel like well, you know, they're not that 1941 02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:21,750 the players want to go play at the best school. And that 1942 02:04:21,750 --> 02:04:24,780 started to make the deterioration of the of the 1943 02:04:24,780 --> 02:04:27,630 school and that's why he felt hard pressed to take action in 1944 02:04:27,630 --> 02:04:31,200 the way he did. Got it. So I'm just showing you how to meet not 1945 02:04:31,200 --> 02:04:35,550 in the media that was the media interfering to push their their 1946 02:04:35,550 --> 02:04:39,240 narrative but of course, so I think we start at 25 Let's go 1947 02:04:39,240 --> 02:04:40,410 ahead and go to 26. 1948 02:04:44,610 --> 02:04:48,690 The number one team in the 60s USC had a fully integrated 1949 02:04:48,690 --> 02:04:51,510 roster, including a black quarterback and a black 1950 02:04:51,510 --> 02:04:56,220 assistant coach one day prior to the 1970 season. Head Coach John 1951 02:04:56,220 --> 02:04:59,670 McKay asked his assistant Craig Furtick for a lift to LAX 1952 02:04:59,670 --> 02:05:01,980 airport. For an unexpected meeting, 1953 02:05:02,549 --> 02:05:06,149 in walks coach Brian with a houndstooth hat on the back 1954 02:05:06,149 --> 02:05:13,349 here. And he walked in and they Hi, Paul. Hi, John. Paul, what's 1955 02:05:13,349 --> 02:05:17,339 this about? John, how y'all like, come down to Birmingham 1956 02:05:17,339 --> 02:05:22,289 play us and the opener. Go says, What are you gonna pay me? He 1957 02:05:22,289 --> 02:05:27,329 says $150,000 goes smoke his cigar. And he says, Tell you 1958 02:05:27,329 --> 02:05:30,089 what, Paul will come down and play you in the old interview, 1959 02:05:30,089 --> 02:05:32,699 come out the following year and play us in LA. And I'll give you 1960 02:05:32,699 --> 02:05:36,779 250. And I'm sitting there and they said, bring us another 1961 02:05:36,779 --> 02:05:40,199 round here. And I set him on history. And I didn't realize 1962 02:05:40,199 --> 02:05:40,889 that at the time. 1963 02:05:42,870 --> 02:05:47,760 There's a conspiracy, right? Come down and beat the crap out 1964 02:05:47,760 --> 02:05:52,590 of us right at our home stadium in front of all the races, white 1965 02:05:52,590 --> 02:05:56,130 folks. And they'll get the picture that we need black 1966 02:05:56,130 --> 02:05:59,550 players not taking into fat what no black players are gonna go 1967 02:05:59,580 --> 02:06:01,890 black players we're gonna go through while they're there, 1968 02:06:01,890 --> 02:06:07,770 none of that. We it's for my benefit, and then continue with 1969 02:06:07,770 --> 02:06:11,910 my legacy in my career. And Amy's done over drinks. And this 1970 02:06:11,910 --> 02:06:20,850 was what year 1971 I want to say, Wow, I believe I believe 1971 02:06:20,850 --> 02:06:25,050 was 71. So I'm just like, 71, not years before I was born. 1972 02:06:25,080 --> 02:06:28,110 I hope a lot of sports fans out there paying attention to this. 1973 02:06:29,099 --> 02:06:32,789 This is why this is why sports is one of the most fascinating 1974 02:06:34,949 --> 02:06:41,699 draws for entertainment, because it's actually gone field court 1975 02:06:41,699 --> 02:06:46,709 wherever else and made a best man win. Right? That's why 1976 02:06:46,739 --> 02:06:51,599 sports is what I call a level playing field is legitly a level 1977 02:06:51,599 --> 02:06:56,309 playing field? Because sports has a rulebook. And society has 1978 02:06:56,309 --> 02:06:58,619 a rulebook. If you want to play it, right, it's called the 1979 02:06:58,619 --> 02:07:02,369 Constitution in America, you are saying is blessed play by the 1980 02:07:02,369 --> 02:07:05,669 rulebook? That's all we're saying separate but equal. Let's 1981 02:07:05,669 --> 02:07:10,679 play by the rulebook. We have this you have 11 players we have 1982 02:07:10,679 --> 02:07:13,649 11 players, you get to wear a helmet we get to wear a helmet 1983 02:07:13,649 --> 02:07:19,229 you know it's best and we'll see how it plays out. But as you see 1984 02:07:19,259 --> 02:07:24,119 is conspiracies that go on mannequins. This is an ending 1985 02:07:24,119 --> 02:07:27,509 footwear that for a greater good who knows. But nobody is 1986 02:07:27,509 --> 02:07:30,539 benevolent in this. Oh, you know, Bear Bryant woke up one 1987 02:07:30,539 --> 02:07:34,319 more. You know what? I have a moral obligation and let black 1988 02:07:34,319 --> 02:07:40,289 players play for me. No, it was for his his wish in. Nothing 1989 02:07:40,289 --> 02:07:43,199 wrong with that being self serving. I have no issue with 1990 02:07:43,199 --> 02:07:46,439 that is the fact don't sell it like something else. That's the 1991 02:07:46,439 --> 02:07:49,679 issue I have with, you know, with anybody. Right? But 1992 02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:54,780 it's not like that as changed in 2020 to 2023. It's just you 1993 02:07:54,780 --> 02:07:58,200 know, maybe, well, here we go. We're talking about sports right 1994 02:07:58,200 --> 02:08:01,680 now. With with the current story. 1995 02:08:02,310 --> 02:08:05,880 And this is why Jerry Jones was such in such a predicament 1996 02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:11,220 because he has to sign top level black talent to come play for 1997 02:08:11,220 --> 02:08:15,600 Dallas, his quarterback is black. You see I'm saying that 1998 02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:18,630 the CEO of his team, being the quarterback that's the CEO of it 1999 02:08:18,630 --> 02:08:21,750 is a black man. He was saying he I think he's biracial. But still 2000 02:08:21,750 --> 02:08:26,550 yet still he he's black. The top play offense, everybody's saying 2001 02:08:26,550 --> 02:08:31,050 like 8070 85% and teams, but if you If this carries out the 2002 02:08:31,050 --> 02:08:34,350 wrong way, he could have mutiny right on his team. And this was 2003 02:08:34,350 --> 02:08:39,240 the goal. I believe in my view of when that attack was said on 2004 02:08:39,240 --> 02:08:43,410 here is like let's shake up the you know, the Dallas Cowboys 2005 02:08:43,440 --> 02:08:46,170 nails, and maybe even the whole NFL. 2006 02:08:47,790 --> 02:08:50,820 Well, I you know, again, you know, I'm not a sports guy, but 2007 02:08:50,820 --> 02:08:54,000 maybe I'm gonna start paying more attention, not to the game. 2008 02:08:55,410 --> 02:08:57,060 Oh, watch for all the other stuff. 2009 02:08:57,660 --> 02:09:00,330 This is why they can talk about it for the six days. They're not 2010 02:09:00,330 --> 02:09:04,470 playing. Talking about it's a whole channel called ESPN, they 2011 02:09:04,470 --> 02:09:08,400 got to fill it up. It's four or five ESPN? What are they talking 2012 02:09:08,400 --> 02:09:11,130 about? All of these sub narratives, everything I mean, 2013 02:09:11,130 --> 02:09:16,230 it's politics and, and race and gender and all other things. And 2014 02:09:16,230 --> 02:09:19,290 you see is nothing new. That's why I like something that's 2015 02:09:19,470 --> 02:09:22,110 cabinet was something new understand? No, these things 2016 02:09:22,110 --> 02:09:25,920 have been going all the way go back to Jack Johnson, USA, like, 2017 02:09:26,070 --> 02:09:29,760 you know, unboxing the years in the early 1900s There sure sure 2018 02:09:29,790 --> 02:09:32,460 there was legislation you're saying creating demand at you 2019 02:09:32,460 --> 02:09:36,420 know, to entrap him in certain ways. I'm just saying this is 2020 02:09:36,420 --> 02:09:41,430 bigger sports, but sports is a huge thing in America. It's a 2021 02:09:41,430 --> 02:09:46,350 huge, very huge thing. So let's if you add something to it, if 2022 02:09:46,350 --> 02:09:49,080 not, we can go and continue on what on a part because yeah, 2023 02:09:49,080 --> 02:09:49,290 what 2024 02:09:49,290 --> 02:09:52,830 I was gonna say is I have to think and I'd love to hear from 2025 02:09:52,830 --> 02:09:57,600 some of our producers. If this is also the case with with 2026 02:09:57,600 --> 02:10:01,230 soccer as an example, if you look at the French Team let me 2027 02:10:01,230 --> 02:10:04,110 know if you if you had one second to look at any any saw 2028 02:10:04,110 --> 02:10:08,700 World Cup soccer French team all black guys all black now they're 2029 02:10:09,300 --> 02:10:14,190 African, right from origin of course, which is all French. But 2030 02:10:14,190 --> 02:10:18,510 there's I wonder I wonder how that plays into into sports in 2031 02:10:18,510 --> 02:10:23,190 general. That's not it, I don't know, 2032 02:10:23,220 --> 02:10:27,450 it plays a huge part it plays a huge part. And that's just think 2033 02:10:27,480 --> 02:10:32,190 if you didn't take some of the top NFL and NBA black players 2034 02:10:32,220 --> 02:10:36,570 and start teaching a soccer age for nobody would beat American 2035 02:10:36,570 --> 02:10:40,710 soccer. I mean, this just that. There's other sports to play 2036 02:10:40,710 --> 02:10:44,130 here, especially for that segment of society, you're 2037 02:10:44,130 --> 02:10:48,000 saying that has these superior athletic talents. So it's like 2038 02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:52,230 once you start getting that factored in, and if soccer is 2039 02:10:52,230 --> 02:10:56,610 super expensive to you know, America will be dominant in in 2040 02:10:56,610 --> 02:11:00,390 soccer the same way Europeans, Europeans got on a quick, you 2041 02:11:00,390 --> 02:11:04,590 know, they said that they don't stick to their national players. 2042 02:11:05,100 --> 02:11:08,640 They go they go outside, you know, racially national limits 2043 02:11:08,640 --> 02:11:13,230 that morning, but they don't care. They go wherever the 2044 02:11:13,230 --> 02:11:15,150 talent is, which that's how it should be. 2045 02:11:17,610 --> 02:11:21,000 I'm not so sure. That's why I'm What do you mean, I'm not so 2046 02:11:21,000 --> 02:11:23,610 sure that they only do where the talent is? I'm not sure. Sure. 2047 02:11:23,610 --> 02:11:27,030 I'd want to see if there's any racial element to some other 2048 02:11:27,030 --> 02:11:30,690 sports like that the outside of the US, the US I get it. Right. 2049 02:11:30,780 --> 02:11:34,410 I'm just curious. Um, this seems there's a lot more to sports 2050 02:11:34,410 --> 02:11:36,570 than I ever considered, certainly in the United States. 2051 02:11:37,380 --> 02:11:39,570 And if you got to put together a long distance team, you gotta go 2052 02:11:39,570 --> 02:11:46,710 get the kings. If you're gonna show us that, like 123450 I 2053 02:11:46,710 --> 02:11:48,660 think it's kidding. Just kidding. Racing TV, right? Read 2054 02:11:48,660 --> 02:11:50,940 it to you. Right, right. It's like they're done given 2055 02:11:50,940 --> 02:11:53,760 Highfather that everybody else is running. You're saying like, 2056 02:11:54,510 --> 02:11:58,440 so I'm just saying is, with genetics, you have certain 2057 02:11:58,470 --> 02:12:04,290 genes, you're saying that, that bring themselves out, you know, 2058 02:12:04,290 --> 02:12:07,890 to show superior talent and started things. Yeah, so let's 2059 02:12:07,890 --> 02:12:10,980 go and wrap up with the last last clip and he said 2060 02:12:13,050 --> 02:12:18,060 on September 12 1970, USC met Alabama on legions field for 2061 02:12:18,060 --> 02:12:21,000 what would become the first integrated college football game 2062 02:12:21,000 --> 02:12:23,610 play in Alabama. I wasn't 2063 02:12:23,610 --> 02:12:29,910 in a game already. Oh, and we all know some kale had a bit of 2064 02:12:29,910 --> 02:12:33,150 a field day and that gave Sam cutting them just ran up and 2065 02:12:33,150 --> 02:12:33,900 down the field. 2066 02:12:35,040 --> 02:12:37,500 We played eight linebackers trying to find one to come back 2067 02:12:37,500 --> 02:12:39,150 from and we know found when they can tackle. 2068 02:12:41,700 --> 02:12:46,470 Cunningham ran for 135 yards and score two touchdowns on only 12 2069 02:12:46,470 --> 02:12:51,360 carries. The final score was 42 to 21 Crimson Tide and lost the 2070 02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:54,810 football game, but was starting to win the war on segregation. 2071 02:12:55,320 --> 02:13:01,860 Bryant reacted to this game by shaking John McCain's hand at 2072 02:13:01,860 --> 02:13:06,030 halftime and thanking him for bringing his team all the way 2073 02:13:06,030 --> 02:13:12,090 out to Birmingham to help his program, quote, help our program 2074 02:13:12,120 --> 02:13:12,720 and quote 2075 02:13:13,620 --> 02:13:18,660 that sort of signal the beginning for for recruitment of 2076 02:13:18,660 --> 02:13:22,170 African American players in the Southeastern Conference. And I 2077 02:13:22,170 --> 02:13:25,590 know a lot has been written a lot of speculation, but I don't 2078 02:13:25,590 --> 02:13:31,770 have any question in my mind that it was all planned by coach 2079 02:13:31,770 --> 02:13:32,100 Brian. 2080 02:13:33,149 --> 02:13:38,339 He's got a spot in Alabama like Martin Luther King doesn't 2081 02:13:38,339 --> 02:13:46,469 worry. He left, he left a legacy for now will be matched. 2082 02:13:53,189 --> 02:14:00,749 So now we got to get to the 5000 pound gorilla in the room, or 2083 02:14:00,749 --> 02:14:11,489 elephant. All right. Genetics and sports. Why is it that 85% 2084 02:14:11,489 --> 02:14:18,119 In the NBA is is black American? You know, why is it in NFL? It's 2085 02:14:18,119 --> 02:14:22,979 such high percentage. You know, saying well, I'm from a certain 2086 02:14:22,979 --> 02:14:24,359 location in America. 2087 02:14:24,840 --> 02:14:30,900 My answer would be similar to Why are some of the best soccer 2088 02:14:30,900 --> 02:14:35,670 players from poor South American countries is because that's when 2089 02:14:35,670 --> 02:14:37,800 the minute they're born that's the only thing they can really 2090 02:14:37,800 --> 02:14:41,940 excel at. And, and that's what they're doing all day long. They 2091 02:14:41,940 --> 02:14:48,000 live, eat, breathe soccer, and that creates great players. I 2092 02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:54,030 would say there's some of that with with American sports. It's 2093 02:14:54,030 --> 02:14:57,210 just it's your I think it's social circumstances and what 2094 02:14:57,210 --> 02:15:01,560 you focus on to get out pa 30 More and more often than not 2095 02:15:01,560 --> 02:15:02,340 probably poverty, 2096 02:15:02,910 --> 02:15:07,050 that I agree with you that is nature means nurture, nurture 2097 02:15:07,050 --> 02:15:12,390 verse, but then when nature also plays a role in it, because this 2098 02:15:12,390 --> 02:15:15,960 is what nobody wants to talk about in sports, and this is why 2099 02:15:15,990 --> 02:15:20,910 Colin Kaepernick he played with this trope and meme, NFL being a 2100 02:15:20,910 --> 02:15:24,810 plantation and that kind of thing. But they measured these 2101 02:15:24,810 --> 02:15:29,340 guys from pinky to thumb, how big is your hand? How high? Can 2102 02:15:29,340 --> 02:15:35,520 you jump? How it was like every metric, they know. Sure. And, 2103 02:15:35,580 --> 02:15:42,450 and in the end, and the genesis of that is the slave trade. 2104 02:15:42,660 --> 02:15:46,500 Nobody wants to talk about this. And this will get you cancelled, 2105 02:15:46,500 --> 02:15:49,650 this will get your council back in Amy's if you brought this up, 2106 02:15:49,920 --> 02:15:55,050 because of how black people were bred, like animals in this 2107 02:15:55,050 --> 02:15:59,640 country. So nobody wants to talk about now. Hold 2108 02:15:59,640 --> 02:16:05,640 on, hold on a second. So okay, fair, you're saying that this is 2109 02:16:05,670 --> 02:16:11,310 genetics that has that was initially engineered by during 2110 02:16:11,310 --> 02:16:15,600 the slave trade. And once that's engineered, it stays, and it 2111 02:16:15,630 --> 02:16:17,100 continues to the bloodline. 2112 02:16:17,849 --> 02:16:20,879 It's in the gene pool. And the thing about it's like this, we 2113 02:16:20,879 --> 02:16:23,789 got to think about gene, and it took me a long time and how to 2114 02:16:23,789 --> 02:16:27,089 think of analogy, how to illustrate because, of course, 2115 02:16:27,089 --> 02:16:30,299 people are going to get into their emotions, of what are you 2116 02:16:30,299 --> 02:16:34,139 saying, oh, all black people are genetically No, no, no, it's not 2117 02:16:34,139 --> 02:16:38,009 gonna say genetic pool is like a lottery. Like you're saying, 2118 02:16:38,009 --> 02:16:43,079 like, think about the lottery balls, right? Yeah. You're when 2119 02:16:43,079 --> 02:16:45,929 you you only have six or seven numbers that come out, but it's 2120 02:16:45,929 --> 02:16:51,089 like 60 numbers in there. You see, I'm saying you might get 2121 02:16:51,119 --> 02:16:57,809 some good set of balls. And it will say because just out of 2122 02:16:57,809 --> 02:16:59,699 draw it a lot, and it's what they call people say, Oh, you 2123 02:16:59,699 --> 02:17:01,799 want a genetic lottery here. People say this all the time, or 2124 02:17:01,799 --> 02:17:04,709 you want a genetic lottery shirt being tall or you know, saying 2125 02:17:04,709 --> 02:17:08,219 or handsome or whatever. Attractive, whatever else. The 2126 02:17:08,219 --> 02:17:12,869 thing was, was the creation of American slave was based that 2127 02:17:12,869 --> 02:17:19,919 the, the lottery balls. And that's why it comes out more 2128 02:17:19,919 --> 02:17:20,909 often. Okay. 2129 02:17:21,360 --> 02:17:26,490 All right. All right. So if I were to say, wow, you know, 2130 02:17:26,940 --> 02:17:31,140 these guys, I mean, just look at him. This is, this is from 2131 02:17:31,230 --> 02:17:35,520 genetics. He got it from the from his gene pool. And boy, are 2132 02:17:35,520 --> 02:17:39,030 we lucky to have him on the team. Who would agree with me, 2133 02:17:39,270 --> 02:17:40,140 if I said, you will 2134 02:17:40,140 --> 02:17:43,830 get canceled, you will get cancelled immediately what I'm 2135 02:17:43,830 --> 02:17:47,100 thinking, but I'm gonna show you the difference because like in 2136 02:17:47,130 --> 02:17:49,740 football, you have these football families, you'll see a 2137 02:17:49,740 --> 02:17:52,680 lot especially in linemen kilometer big guys. And you 2138 02:17:52,680 --> 02:17:55,530 know, all you're saying is dad play and his uncle. Like the 2139 02:17:56,040 --> 02:17:58,740 auto family. There's no out of name saying that this might not 2140 02:17:58,740 --> 02:18:01,170 be a route, you know, the auto shows and it comes from a long 2141 02:18:01,170 --> 02:18:06,450 line of football family. No problem. But is very careful 2142 02:18:06,450 --> 02:18:09,690 when you get to the black side. And hey, you ever heard of Jimmy 2143 02:18:09,690 --> 02:18:10,950 to Greek? Let's progress the show? 2144 02:18:11,760 --> 02:18:14,790 Have I heard of Jimmy the Greek? I was doing radio in New York 2145 02:18:14,790 --> 02:18:20,880 City when this happened in 80s 8980. Right time Yeah. Oh, I 2146 02:18:20,880 --> 02:18:21,270 remember. 2147 02:18:21,390 --> 02:18:26,310 Even back then he got canceled for what he said. I want to show 2148 02:18:26,310 --> 02:18:27,390 you the news report. 2149 02:18:28,260 --> 02:18:31,740 Remember this? I was in New York City. I remember this. This was 2150 02:18:31,740 --> 02:18:33,060 huge news. This 2151 02:18:33,060 --> 02:18:37,380 is why I love doing the show because I get the inside scoop 2152 02:18:37,380 --> 02:18:41,370 on what but listen to how the news frames why he got in 2153 02:18:41,370 --> 02:18:44,850 trouble and possibly fired. And then we're gonna go back and 2154 02:18:44,850 --> 02:18:46,440 listen to what he actually said. 2155 02:18:46,470 --> 02:18:51,210 Reporter from WRC TV, was asking questions about Martin Luther 2156 02:18:51,210 --> 02:18:54,210 King's birthday, and the progress blacks have made in 2157 02:18:54,210 --> 02:18:57,540 society. There. CBS Sports commentator Jimmy the Greek 2158 02:18:57,540 --> 02:19:00,540 Snyder gave his impressions of blacks and coaching in the 2159 02:19:00,540 --> 02:19:04,170 National Football League. His answers could raise as much 2160 02:19:04,170 --> 02:19:07,800 controversy as the statements by former Dodgers executive our 2161 02:19:07,800 --> 02:19:11,490 campaign this last April on ABC Nightline news program. 2162 02:19:11,849 --> 02:19:14,039 Yeah, pretty sure they're gonna have to equalize it for the 2163 02:19:14,039 --> 02:19:18,359 blacks. For the Greeks, the Jews and for everybody, I mean, let's 2164 02:19:18,359 --> 02:19:19,589 make it equal for everybody. 2165 02:19:20,460 --> 02:19:23,250 And isn't equal to the sports. 2166 02:19:24,269 --> 02:19:27,689 Well, they've got everything if they take over coaching like 2167 02:19:27,689 --> 02:19:30,299 everybody wants him to, there's not going to be anything left 2168 02:19:30,299 --> 02:19:32,939 for the white people. I mean, all the players are black. I 2169 02:19:32,939 --> 02:19:35,339 mean, the only thing that the whites control is the coaching 2170 02:19:35,339 --> 02:19:38,369 jobs. Now I'm not being derogatory about it, but that's 2171 02:19:38,399 --> 02:19:42,149 all that's left for. So black talent is beautiful. It's great. 2172 02:19:42,149 --> 02:19:46,229 It's out there. The only thing left for the whites is a couple 2173 02:19:46,229 --> 02:19:49,499 of coaching jobs, and we need to get more black conscious. All 2174 02:19:49,499 --> 02:19:51,899 right with me. Okay, well, I'm sure that they'll take over that 2175 02:19:51,899 --> 02:19:52,709 pretty soon, too. 2176 02:19:54,000 --> 02:19:57,780 WRC was apparently flooded with complaint calls after the Snyder 2177 02:19:57,780 --> 02:20:00,960 comments were aired, Schneider issued an apology saying he was 2178 02:20:00,960 --> 02:20:05,430 truly sorry for anything he said. ABC. CBS spokesperson said 2179 02:20:05,430 --> 02:20:08,370 no decision has been made as to whether Snyder will work Sundays 2180 02:20:08,370 --> 02:20:11,580 NFL today broadcast Snyder's spending the night with Gene 2181 02:20:11,610 --> 02:20:13,890 Upshaw, the players union executive director in 2182 02:20:13,890 --> 02:20:17,940 Washington, and he has received support calls from Walter Payton 2183 02:20:18,060 --> 02:20:19,530 and Ahmad Rashad. 2184 02:20:20,610 --> 02:20:25,620 Oh man yes it's a mod were shot and he got some shit for that 2185 02:20:25,620 --> 02:20:26,040 too. 2186 02:20:26,550 --> 02:20:29,910 Of course he did because disliked when Jerry Jones came 2187 02:20:29,910 --> 02:20:33,270 out and only Steven a smooth came out caper for Jerry Jones. 2188 02:20:33,600 --> 02:20:37,290 You always have people you can call a Steven hey, I need a 2189 02:20:37,290 --> 02:20:39,630 solid you say a mod I need a solid 2190 02:20:40,440 --> 02:20:43,290 go What I remember now I'm just trying to think to this time 2191 02:20:43,650 --> 02:20:48,690 because this although this was this I think was the actual 2192 02:20:48,690 --> 02:20:50,850 problem that he said well you know what's gonna be left for 2193 02:20:50,850 --> 02:20:53,130 the Jews and the white guys you know, we got into and the 2194 02:20:53,430 --> 02:20:55,320 Italians and what are we going to have life? We're not going to 2195 02:20:55,320 --> 02:20:59,730 be in the sport. But he got canceled, I guess or fired or 2196 02:20:59,730 --> 02:21:01,950 whatever, for a different comment. 2197 02:21:03,060 --> 02:21:06,600 I'm glad I'm glad we land this outline. This is what podcast 2198 02:21:06,600 --> 02:21:10,320 gold is all about. What do you remember him being counseled 2199 02:21:10,320 --> 02:21:10,740 for, 2200 02:21:11,310 --> 02:21:16,050 for saying that? Well, obviously the black athletes are superior 2201 02:21:16,050 --> 02:21:20,850 because of their breeding as slaves and they were bred to be 2202 02:21:20,850 --> 02:21:24,060 powerful machines. I'm paraphrasing it's a long time 2203 02:21:24,060 --> 02:21:24,360 ago. 2204 02:21:24,420 --> 02:21:31,110 It's pretty close. But notice the news clip left that part out 2205 02:21:31,920 --> 02:21:33,930 a vintage news clip edited 2206 02:21:34,680 --> 02:21:36,780 out on YouTube and missed a lot there. 2207 02:21:37,530 --> 02:21:42,420 Right so now I had to go to stoner man is the YouTube 2208 02:21:42,420 --> 02:21:46,380 channel and forgive the music. But he's gonna get into Jimmy 2209 02:21:46,440 --> 02:21:49,470 the Greek being cancelled. Part One and Part Two. This is the 2210 02:21:49,470 --> 02:21:50,070 first part 2211 02:21:50,160 --> 02:21:52,980 it's donor man presents Jimmy the Greek the first cancel 2212 02:21:52,980 --> 02:21:56,880 broadcaster caution. comments may be triggering or hilarious 2213 02:21:56,880 --> 02:21:58,140 depending on your perspective. 2214 02:21:59,100 --> 02:22:02,400 The black is the better athlete and he's bred to be the better 2215 02:22:02,400 --> 02:22:05,220 athlete because this goes back all the way to the Civil War. 2216 02:22:05,430 --> 02:22:09,150 When during the slave trading, the big the owner the slave 2217 02:22:09,150 --> 02:22:13,830 owner would would would would breed his big black to his big 2218 02:22:13,830 --> 02:22:18,750 woman so that he could have a big black kids in Washington 2219 02:22:18,750 --> 02:22:19,110 today. 2220 02:22:19,140 --> 02:22:21,840 The local NBC television station interviewed people about the 2221 02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:24,690 state of race relations on this Martin Luther King's birthday 2222 02:22:24,690 --> 02:22:24,840 should 2223 02:22:24,840 --> 02:22:27,930 be the drink. Snyder is in hot water tonight over some remarks 2224 02:22:27,930 --> 02:22:29,790 he made today about flat athletes. 2225 02:22:30,060 --> 02:22:33,510 Well, they've got everything. If they take over coaching like 2226 02:22:33,510 --> 02:22:36,120 everybody wants him to. There's not going to be anything left 2227 02:22:36,120 --> 02:22:38,940 for the white people. The black is a better athlete to begin 2228 02:22:38,940 --> 02:22:42,480 with. Because he's been bred to be that way. Because of his 2229 02:22:42,480 --> 02:22:48,450 height guys. I don't want to live with the white guides. 2230 02:22:48,480 --> 02:22:51,420 And the Fallout was very swift. 2231 02:22:51,630 --> 02:22:54,630 Right? Yeah, that was there was a high thigh that was that was 2232 02:22:54,630 --> 02:22:57,750 the kind of like the the mean, that was the thing that stuck 2233 02:22:57,750 --> 02:23:00,840 the high thigh. And what do you mean, you're saying they're 2234 02:23:00,840 --> 02:23:02,070 genetically different? 2235 02:23:02,970 --> 02:23:10,230 They were genetically reproduced. And this did this 2236 02:23:10,230 --> 02:23:13,170 that make us misconception people have about slavery. Like 2237 02:23:13,170 --> 02:23:16,290 that you had slaves and their little slave cabins with their 2238 02:23:16,290 --> 02:23:19,200 little slave families. It's like, Alright, honey, I'm going 2239 02:23:19,200 --> 02:23:21,840 out the slaves, you know, and they go walk out the house and 2240 02:23:21,840 --> 02:23:27,330 I'll see me get home. No, it was scientific. And I got stopped 2241 02:23:27,330 --> 02:23:31,500 using it work. It was husbandry, it was like, Oh, you gotta 2242 02:23:31,500 --> 02:23:35,190 thoroughbred horse, bring them on over here. And I know this 2243 02:23:35,190 --> 02:23:40,470 because I own a thoroughbred American Bully. And his genetics 2244 02:23:40,470 --> 02:23:41,580 can be translated. You're 2245 02:23:41,580 --> 02:23:45,210 saying the right thing husband? It exists today. We don't think 2246 02:23:45,210 --> 02:23:51,510 two seconds about the Hindus about Indians. They husbandry 2247 02:23:51,930 --> 02:23:54,540 it's like that's what that's what a rant. Oh, that's the goal 2248 02:23:54,540 --> 02:23:58,620 of arranged marriages. Yes, people together. That way they 2249 02:23:59,160 --> 02:24:06,300 reproduce a better lineage, or a better project and the athlete 2250 02:24:06,300 --> 02:24:06,720 is a word 2251 02:24:06,720 --> 02:24:11,010 but on its head. Why is it taboo to marry your your cousin? 2252 02:24:11,520 --> 02:24:14,940 Because you get the opposite? So we're told correct, you get 2253 02:24:16,080 --> 02:24:18,720 mongrel retarded offspring. 2254 02:24:19,230 --> 02:24:23,220 But you don't want to have this conversation. I'm glad you made 2255 02:24:23,220 --> 02:24:27,750 that point. Because what is it South known for West Virginia? 2256 02:24:27,870 --> 02:24:31,080 Oh, you're married to your cousin you're married to that 2257 02:24:31,110 --> 02:24:32,400 stereotype is okay. 2258 02:24:32,610 --> 02:24:34,050 Yeah, exactly. 2259 02:24:34,440 --> 02:24:37,110 Or the northern thought they were dealing with when they came 2260 02:24:37,110 --> 02:24:39,840 down, sell all their cousin efforts or whatever saying like, 2261 02:24:41,670 --> 02:24:43,680 where do we get these? Where would you get these stereotypes 2262 02:24:43,680 --> 02:24:44,130 from? 2263 02:24:45,690 --> 02:24:46,920 Where do we get them from? 2264 02:24:47,430 --> 02:24:51,630 Yeah, I mean, who prints West Virginians as people to sleep 2265 02:24:51,630 --> 02:24:52,500 with their cousins. 2266 02:24:54,990 --> 02:24:55,980 douchebags. 2267 02:24:56,490 --> 02:24:59,970 And it's okay, it's the media. It's movies these days. 2268 02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:03,060 Yeah, you're right. You're right. Don't marry a ginger. 2269 02:25:03,330 --> 02:25:03,990 It's no good. 2270 02:25:04,440 --> 02:25:07,320 Oh, that's the I mean, yeah, exactly. I mean, they get I 2271 02:25:07,320 --> 02:25:09,450 mean, like, they're the white people that are black people, 2272 02:25:09,450 --> 02:25:12,570 the white people, you know, I mean, like, I've never 2273 02:25:12,570 --> 02:25:16,290 understood what I like how cruel gingers was treated mom. Like, 2274 02:25:17,250 --> 02:25:19,710 it's very bad. It's hard to blame 2275 02:25:19,710 --> 02:25:22,980 for everything to like, Oh, you're saying My car got a flat 2276 02:25:22,980 --> 02:25:25,470 tire? You're saying let's be a ginger. You know, that kind of 2277 02:25:25,470 --> 02:25:28,980 thing? No serious. I didn't I didn't know. Like I said, 2278 02:25:28,980 --> 02:25:32,310 that's, that was outside my purview. Without wondering you 2279 02:25:32,310 --> 02:25:35,250 start hearing like the stereotype is like, wow, like, 2280 02:25:35,250 --> 02:25:37,200 you know, wow, like, wow, 2281 02:25:37,800 --> 02:25:41,250 that's a very good point. Oh, so? Well, first of all, I'm glad 2282 02:25:41,250 --> 02:25:44,040 that we can just sit here and talk about because I remember. 2283 02:25:44,610 --> 02:25:47,040 Here's how I remember it going down because it was one I was 2284 02:25:47,040 --> 02:25:53,430 doing the morning show. With I think Scott Shannon, Ross 2285 02:25:53,430 --> 02:25:57,810 Britton, these were all huge. Z 100 more and all white guys. 2286 02:25:59,130 --> 02:26:02,310 Except we had a we had to Professor Jonathan B. Bell who 2287 02:26:02,310 --> 02:26:08,760 did sports black guy, of course. And but I remember that. I wish 2288 02:26:08,760 --> 02:26:11,160 I remembered exactly, but it was kind of Oh, Jimmy, the Greek 2289 02:26:11,160 --> 02:26:15,240 Whoa, whoa, whoa. Cabling or whatever. You know, they 2290 02:26:15,240 --> 02:26:18,360 wouldn't actually say, but you could tell that I was like, 2291 02:26:18,390 --> 02:26:21,690 EMTs. Right. But we're not gonna say he's right. 2292 02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:26,310 It's one of the things that we see monitoring that they talk 2293 02:26:26,310 --> 02:26:28,740 about what he said without actually saying what he said, 2294 02:26:28,890 --> 02:26:32,130 right? We started with the Bill Cosby thing. You know, they 2295 02:26:32,130 --> 02:26:36,150 never use what he actually what his confession was. They just 2296 02:26:36,150 --> 02:26:39,060 talked about his confession, right? Well, he confessed. Yeah. 2297 02:26:39,090 --> 02:26:41,850 It's like what he said, Oh, we don't worry about he confessed. 2298 02:26:41,850 --> 02:26:44,460 It's like, but what do you say? You know, like I said, this is 2299 02:26:44,460 --> 02:26:46,950 no cable for Bill Cosby, because he got his own issues. But what 2300 02:26:46,950 --> 02:26:47,880 I'm just saying is, 2301 02:26:47,909 --> 02:26:51,689 so they're coming to here comes the problem. Does the media do 2302 02:26:51,689 --> 02:26:55,649 that? Because they don't want to be complicit in some suspected 2303 02:26:55,649 --> 02:26:59,669 racism? Or do they do that, because they just want to keep 2304 02:26:59,669 --> 02:27:01,679 it quiet, keep everything going the way it is. 2305 02:27:02,700 --> 02:27:07,050 They don't want to on earth. Like, and this is why I pulled 2306 02:27:07,050 --> 02:27:10,740 out in the Megyn Kelly thing. You had the narrative that she 2307 02:27:10,740 --> 02:27:15,150 had. And this is no shot in the making, of what Bill's misfields 2308 02:27:15,150 --> 02:27:18,780 went through. But they you had well, actually what Miss bills 2309 02:27:18,780 --> 02:27:22,440 went through, he was sure the audio of ropes in words, and no, 2310 02:27:22,440 --> 02:27:24,480 they were shooting to me and trying to light me on fire and 2311 02:27:24,480 --> 02:27:27,450 throwing acid on me. And the same thing here. It's like the 2312 02:27:27,450 --> 02:27:31,980 idea of slavery, versus what was really going on in slavery. 2313 02:27:31,980 --> 02:27:36,150 And the converse is true in recent history with juicy small 2314 02:27:36,150 --> 02:27:43,800 a, there was Maga country put a noose around you. And of course, 2315 02:27:43,800 --> 02:27:46,980 that was all just trauma reporting for a 2316 02:27:46,980 --> 02:27:50,280 fact. Right? Or the one we we always like talk about as good 2317 02:27:50,280 --> 02:27:53,190 people on both sides. That kind of thing is like, we're going to 2318 02:27:53,190 --> 02:27:56,310 take this and shape it. But not to belabor a point, but I'm just 2319 02:27:56,310 --> 02:28:00,150 showing you, nobody really wants to have that conversation of 2320 02:28:00,150 --> 02:28:04,290 what, what x went into slavery. And that was more moderate 2321 02:28:04,290 --> 02:28:07,080 slavery, because when they had a steady flow, you'll say are 2322 02:28:07,080 --> 02:28:10,530 slaves coming into the country, it wasn't beneficial. But the 2323 02:28:10,530 --> 02:28:15,480 late stages of slavery was a lot of slave farms, they will 2324 02:28:15,480 --> 02:28:21,720 farming human beings. Now with that, if I've never seen a 2325 02:28:21,720 --> 02:28:26,340 business person want to make a inferior product, you're saying 2326 02:28:26,340 --> 02:28:29,220 just to be cold and callous about it for a minute, you know, 2327 02:28:29,220 --> 02:28:33,930 you take your best and breed to your best and make better. So 2328 02:28:33,960 --> 02:28:42,570 this I think this is why we have the the you know, the huge 2329 02:28:42,660 --> 02:28:50,460 quantity of these genes being manifest. Now, you're saying 2330 02:28:50,460 --> 02:28:54,510 like, okay, it's heavy in their gene pool, they had the things 2331 02:28:54,510 --> 02:28:58,230 that were desired. It was a it was a feature, you know, we need 2332 02:28:58,230 --> 02:29:02,460 to we need, we need him to lift and carry and picking haul. And 2333 02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:06,450 so we need to look for this type of this this phenom phenotype. 2334 02:29:06,990 --> 02:29:10,800 And we need to let that phenotype spread. See to all the 2335 02:29:10,800 --> 02:29:14,880 women. Sure this is American history, like people can get 2336 02:29:14,880 --> 02:29:18,030 frustrated or wherever but this is what that's not talking about 2337 02:29:18,030 --> 02:29:18,150 it. 2338 02:29:18,180 --> 02:29:22,350 No, it's so crazy because we've gone so far to the to the other 2339 02:29:22,350 --> 02:29:26,070 side that now we are at because you said business people that 2340 02:29:26,070 --> 02:29:32,520 triggered me. Business people businesses are making very bad 2341 02:29:32,520 --> 02:29:36,660 business decisions based upon cause I have people who sit in 2342 02:29:36,660 --> 02:29:40,650 boardrooms, I have people who sit in the largest medical 2343 02:29:40,860 --> 02:29:45,660 organizations. And it'd be like, Okay, we need a company who 2344 02:29:45,690 --> 02:29:49,320 wouldn't outsource this particular thing to? Here's our 2345 02:29:49,320 --> 02:29:54,180 choices. That one Yeah, they really are pretty white heavy. 2346 02:29:54,180 --> 02:29:58,020 So they're not they just can't they we can't choose them. So 2347 02:29:58,020 --> 02:30:00,630 the opposite is now happening where the DIS systems are being 2348 02:30:00,630 --> 02:30:03,540 made that are counterintuitive to the success of the business 2349 02:30:04,260 --> 02:30:05,340 based on race 2350 02:30:07,800 --> 02:30:12,720 it with theme that way, but whatever their real goal here is 2351 02:30:12,720 --> 02:30:15,810 right. It's like that. What is their real goal? I mean, it 2352 02:30:15,810 --> 02:30:16,500 seems no, 2353 02:30:16,529 --> 02:30:23,099 no, no. What's happening today in boardrooms, the real goal is 2354 02:30:23,519 --> 02:30:30,539 to comply with ESG. That's the goal. Right? It's not no 2355 02:30:31,109 --> 02:30:36,359 absolute, but you either do it this way, or you're guaranteed 2356 02:30:36,359 --> 02:30:41,309 to not make money. So you can do a little worse, or maybe sick. 2357 02:30:41,309 --> 02:30:46,079 40% Worse, but that's better than 90% worse. That's that's 2358 02:30:46,079 --> 02:30:48,359 the trauma that's happening now in the boardrooms, 2359 02:30:48,660 --> 02:30:52,650 because the steady drumbeat is to depopulation. That's the 2360 02:30:52,650 --> 02:30:54,360 steady, that's the steady course. 2361 02:30:54,750 --> 02:30:58,020 They've always wanted to kill us more. We know that not just you, 2362 02:30:58,020 --> 02:30:58,800 everybody. 2363 02:30:59,370 --> 02:31:03,480 Right? It will always say they start with not in, they start 2364 02:31:03,480 --> 02:31:07,860 with us. That that's the thing. It's like, ringing the bell 2365 02:31:07,860 --> 02:31:11,610 like, hey, yeah, I know how this go. And this is, this is why 2366 02:31:11,610 --> 02:31:13,380 people at all, that's why we went back to what you were 2367 02:31:13,380 --> 02:31:16,680 saying before, like, you see it one way, it's like, I can't see 2368 02:31:16,710 --> 02:31:20,880 any other way. I mean, because it's my paradigm you know, now 2369 02:31:20,880 --> 02:31:24,750 does I'll do I let that make me be ineffective? Do I let that 2370 02:31:24,750 --> 02:31:28,230 make me be in a state of being traumatized? And no, no, it's 2371 02:31:28,230 --> 02:31:31,890 just these are this is reality. You know, just like how they 2372 02:31:31,890 --> 02:31:35,160 delete it from what he actually said, because they don't want to 2373 02:31:35,160 --> 02:31:38,040 talk about what went on in this country just like they tried to 2374 02:31:38,040 --> 02:31:41,640 shut up about our holocaust. He's like, this is our 2375 02:31:41,640 --> 02:31:45,150 holocaust. Like, shut up. Yay. You say you can't say that. Why 2376 02:31:45,150 --> 02:31:47,010 can I say that? Everybody else is talking about their 2377 02:31:47,010 --> 02:31:48,840 suffering. Because you can't shut up. 2378 02:31:49,410 --> 02:31:52,770 Well, you can Yeah, you can say it just the mainstream says no, 2379 02:31:52,800 --> 02:31:55,110 we're not gonna we're not gonna broadcast that. 2380 02:31:56,370 --> 02:32:01,440 It I mean, they debate demand. I mean, gone before he went on 2381 02:32:01,470 --> 02:32:04,650 saying info walked out prior to that when he was like, you know, 2382 02:32:04,650 --> 02:32:07,110 Planned Parenthood is our holocaust. You can't say that. 2383 02:32:08,640 --> 02:32:11,400 No, you how can you how can you not tell what my suffer? I 2384 02:32:11,400 --> 02:32:14,070 cannot tell my story. You know, because they don't want down 2385 02:32:14,070 --> 02:32:14,910 Well, I mean, 2386 02:32:14,940 --> 02:32:17,670 okay, so the bottom line is, yes, you can say it, but you can 2387 02:32:17,670 --> 02:32:20,430 say it only in certain places like on a podcast, 2388 02:32:20,880 --> 02:32:23,460 right. That's why it is so powerful. Yes. 2389 02:32:23,460 --> 02:32:26,880 But that's why podcasting is more exciting, more interesting 2390 02:32:26,880 --> 02:32:29,280 than mainstream. Because truth comes out. 2391 02:32:29,910 --> 02:32:33,330 I would have been stopped. The phone, Boulay phone would have 2392 02:32:33,330 --> 02:32:39,600 been ringing. You bet. You from both sides, like what the hell 2393 02:32:39,600 --> 02:32:42,690 is going on over there? You say like, shut it down, or pull the 2394 02:32:42,690 --> 02:32:47,790 power to kick us off the grid? Because they don't want us to 2395 02:32:47,790 --> 02:32:51,570 talk about this. But you only can get to a note the real fear 2396 02:32:51,570 --> 02:32:58,500 is they think the counter to white supremacy is black 2397 02:32:58,500 --> 02:33:02,700 supremacy. Oh, it's really when the counter is just this it 2398 02:33:02,700 --> 02:33:06,180 wasn't we don't want to be polar go to the other pole. No, with 2399 02:33:06,180 --> 02:33:08,580 it is just like call it fair. And it's why sports is so 2400 02:33:08,580 --> 02:33:11,460 important. Because that's the one place on the field. You can 2401 02:33:11,460 --> 02:33:12,840 call it fair. Allegedly. 2402 02:33:14,040 --> 02:33:16,500 Yeah, if you got to there's a lot of things you take into 2403 02:33:16,500 --> 02:33:20,010 consideration refs people throwing games, etc. But yeah, 2404 02:33:20,040 --> 02:33:23,790 in general, on the field is where the truth comes out. 2405 02:33:24,570 --> 02:33:27,420 Cuz we can see it everybody can see like, Oh, that's a bad call. 2406 02:33:28,530 --> 02:33:31,470 Right? Like, hey, you're saying that he was out or he was in 2407 02:33:31,500 --> 02:33:34,590 like, it's very clear. You're saying here the line was the 2408 02:33:34,590 --> 02:33:37,980 outdoorsy is the definitive answer to it, where everything 2409 02:33:38,010 --> 02:33:42,660 else is, is objective right? Now, so subjective. You're 2410 02:33:42,660 --> 02:33:46,620 saying sports is objective. So let's go ahead and get listen to 2411 02:33:46,620 --> 02:33:50,610 Jimmy the Greek being counseled in the 80s. For his letting out 2412 02:33:50,610 --> 02:33:51,240 of the truth 2413 02:33:51,540 --> 02:33:54,120 in the Fallout was very swift. 2414 02:33:54,150 --> 02:33:57,090 I don't think the network was was any choice. 2415 02:33:58,590 --> 02:34:01,320 I don't I don't think the network's fired him. I think he 2416 02:34:01,320 --> 02:34:09,030 fired so I was trying. I was telling them how superior the 2417 02:34:09,030 --> 02:34:13,020 black athlete is over the white one, just for the reasons 2418 02:34:13,050 --> 02:34:14,430 that said he is 2419 02:34:16,980 --> 02:34:18,540 the Black tries harder. 2420 02:34:18,960 --> 02:34:24,240 He has made a big mistake. But then all of us do. And we have 2421 02:34:24,240 --> 02:34:29,940 to at some point time and people show a contrite heart. To 2422 02:34:30,990 --> 02:34:33,240 forgive to redeem and to move on 2423 02:34:33,420 --> 02:34:37,380 CBS on Friday afternoon here in Washington, our former colleague 2424 02:34:37,380 --> 02:34:40,170 Jimmy the Greg made some regrettable and offensive 2425 02:34:40,170 --> 02:34:43,680 remarks for which he has apologized. Yesterday CBS issued 2426 02:34:43,680 --> 02:34:47,430 a statement disassociated itself from those remarks. It goes 2427 02:34:47,430 --> 02:34:51,000 without saying that his comments do not reflect in any way the 2428 02:34:51,000 --> 02:34:54,480 thinking or attitudes of the rest of us here at CBS Sports. 2429 02:34:54,840 --> 02:34:58,080 While we deplore the incident this weekend. We are saddened 2430 02:34:58,110 --> 02:35:01,290 that I 12 Your association with me had to end this way. 2431 02:35:01,590 --> 02:35:04,800 It's such a great SIOP. You know, it's like everyone sees 2432 02:35:04,800 --> 02:35:07,410 it, everyone sees the balance. Everyone sees who performs 2433 02:35:07,410 --> 02:35:10,560 better. But not it's not, of course, our opinion, hertz 2434 02:35:10,560 --> 02:35:11,490 should be ash. 2435 02:35:13,139 --> 02:35:16,589 Because she can't say the quiet part out loud. Never. That's 2436 02:35:16,589 --> 02:35:18,989 what he said, That's where he stepped on, he stepped on the 2437 02:35:18,989 --> 02:35:23,759 third rail and NAS, what you just can't say that. And there's 2438 02:35:23,759 --> 02:35:26,999 one more part to husbandry before we move on, that people 2439 02:35:26,999 --> 02:35:32,429 don't want to factor in. But like I look at things through 2440 02:35:32,429 --> 02:35:39,209 Santo, illogical lens. And the fact that you had this plan, he 2441 02:35:39,209 --> 02:35:42,989 was saying planned reproduction going on for a better product. 2442 02:35:43,379 --> 02:35:47,969 And then you had white genetics coming over into that as well 2443 02:35:47,969 --> 02:35:52,589 through rape or interracial relations, or however you want 2444 02:35:52,589 --> 02:35:55,859 to look at it. There's a thing called hybrid vigor, which I'm 2445 02:35:55,859 --> 02:35:59,489 gonna do a whole show on this, what's it called? hybrid vigor. 2446 02:35:59,489 --> 02:36:02,639 So what happens is, when you take a white person and a black 2447 02:36:02,639 --> 02:36:11,189 person in may have a baby, the offspring can have super 2448 02:36:11,189 --> 02:36:17,309 genetics, because it's a new thing. If you so when you create 2449 02:36:17,309 --> 02:36:21,869 cross two things, in the will to survive, it has a higher chance 2450 02:36:21,869 --> 02:36:26,279 of having an in enhance genetics, which I think a lot of 2451 02:36:26,279 --> 02:36:29,519 the Coverity plan is about, it's like let's make use and mix them 2452 02:36:29,519 --> 02:36:31,889 up. This is why you're seeing this commercial mixed them up, 2453 02:36:31,889 --> 02:36:35,849 we're going to the super race, super race, super race. And 2454 02:36:35,849 --> 02:36:39,419 that's what they when you had this white genetic come over to 2455 02:36:39,419 --> 02:36:45,839 this already planned, you know, plan genetics for black people 2456 02:36:45,929 --> 02:36:49,259 that add it to it even more. Now, obviously, this is all 2457 02:36:49,259 --> 02:36:52,949 science. This is why Meghan Maher who quote unquote, is so 2458 02:36:52,949 --> 02:37:00,839 beautiful, or whatever you're saying is hybrid vigor. As 2459 02:37:00,839 --> 02:37:06,719 Rebecca said, and we got to be clear, is it looks over 2460 02:37:06,719 --> 02:37:09,479 representative because you say 85% mean, we're saying, Oh, the 2461 02:37:09,479 --> 02:37:13,649 NFL is black, blah, blah, blah. But I mean, what is it like 65 2462 02:37:13,649 --> 02:37:17,219 players on a team 32 teams, you're saying do that math, 2463 02:37:17,429 --> 02:37:20,729 that's not a lot of people. And they're looking for these kids 2464 02:37:20,729 --> 02:37:24,479 at every corner, every Pop Warner field, ever. I mean, 2465 02:37:24,479 --> 02:37:27,719 they're scouring the earth for the next LeBron James Sure. For 2466 02:37:27,719 --> 02:37:30,989 the net. This is, so it's like, okay, when you find one, they're 2467 02:37:30,989 --> 02:37:34,799 an anomaly within their race. You're saying within their race 2468 02:37:34,799 --> 02:37:40,169 itself? You know, I mean, it's not like as 1000 LeBron James 2469 02:37:40,169 --> 02:37:42,779 out here to tell you how small the number is. 1000 Michael 2470 02:37:42,779 --> 02:37:46,349 Jordan's there's only one. But if the likelihood of that being 2471 02:37:46,349 --> 02:37:49,949 manifested through reproduction is higher, because of what the 2472 02:37:49,949 --> 02:37:51,749 shenanigans that went on during slavery? 2473 02:37:52,739 --> 02:37:55,949 Or still go on for all we know, of course, 2474 02:37:55,950 --> 02:38:00,060 because guess what? You took me here, so they applaud yourself. 2475 02:38:00,270 --> 02:38:03,300 What do you think Planned Parenthood is a woman's not 2476 02:38:03,300 --> 02:38:07,410 gonna keep a baby have a buster are lame. And you're saying 2477 02:38:07,440 --> 02:38:11,370 like, they're gonna keep the tall attractive guys baby. is 2478 02:38:11,370 --> 02:38:14,610 still going? Yeah, it's still going on? Yeah, 2479 02:38:14,640 --> 02:38:16,410 yeah. 2480 02:38:17,040 --> 02:38:18,360 Yeah, it is. 2481 02:38:19,440 --> 02:38:20,850 As far less fucked up. 2482 02:38:22,470 --> 02:38:25,620 No, it goes across. I mean, that's just that got to go to 2483 02:38:25,620 --> 02:38:29,220 show it goes across all all colors there. Because you know, 2484 02:38:29,220 --> 02:38:31,860 saying, Oh, he's a loser. Or he's, oh, that was accident. 2485 02:38:33,150 --> 02:38:39,960 Is that not the natural order of the human spirit is to seek the 2486 02:38:39,960 --> 02:38:45,990 appropriate mate, seek it based upon? I mean, women 2487 02:38:45,990 --> 02:38:50,550 traditionally make themselves look more attractive men. And 2488 02:38:50,550 --> 02:38:54,660 this changes throughout time. You know, it's, if you want to 2489 02:38:54,660 --> 02:38:57,360 John Henry, like the massive kind of guy who's going to 2490 02:38:57,360 --> 02:39:00,210 protect you. And then, you know, in a different era, oh, we want 2491 02:39:00,210 --> 02:39:03,960 kind of the geeky guy, and then a new era. You want the guy with 2492 02:39:03,960 --> 02:39:07,410 the dad bod? You know, all these different different things that 2493 02:39:07,410 --> 02:39:13,620 are that morph and change maybe through popular culture, 2494 02:39:13,620 --> 02:39:18,750 probably. Yeah, but even let's look at women. What are 2495 02:39:18,840 --> 02:39:23,430 certainly what are black men highly attractive to sit girls? 2496 02:39:24,060 --> 02:39:28,620 Am I correct? Allegedly, allegedly, supposedly, 2497 02:39:29,010 --> 02:39:31,260 I mean, black because that's the narrative. That's why they take 2498 02:39:31,260 --> 02:39:35,130 a qMk and put her on a pedestal and say, Oh, this is beauty. 2499 02:39:35,160 --> 02:39:38,910 Yeah. It was saying that this is the media playing with that 2500 02:39:38,910 --> 02:39:42,570 narrative. You know, even though Kim K's appearance, it's not her 2501 02:39:42,570 --> 02:39:46,800 genetic. This is the sick part. You want me it's like those are 2502 02:39:46,800 --> 02:39:49,770 her genetics. Those are this this manufactured 2503 02:39:49,800 --> 02:39:58,080 so in in a sick way. The media is doing husbandry. Yes. So they 2504 02:39:58,080 --> 02:40:00,840 are in fact a bunch of racist kids. Dix, 2505 02:40:01,500 --> 02:40:05,430 scientific white supremacist they are because it's all about 2506 02:40:05,460 --> 02:40:10,260 creating a better race, a smarter race, a more fit race. 2507 02:40:11,370 --> 02:40:17,220 And when you introduce just willy nilly sake, you gotta 2508 02:40:17,220 --> 02:40:19,320 have, you're saying you gotta have a counter to that you say 2509 02:40:19,320 --> 02:40:21,300 you can't have all these people having all these babies they're 2510 02:40:21,300 --> 02:40:22,290 making, I'm thinking 2511 02:40:23,010 --> 02:40:28,710 about Obama as like, well, he's not exactly the right race, but 2512 02:40:28,710 --> 02:40:32,190 he's got ticks all the boxes, so we'll just call him black, you 2513 02:40:32,190 --> 02:40:32,640 go, 2514 02:40:32,970 --> 02:40:33,630 correct. 2515 02:40:36,240 --> 02:40:37,290 That's a good way to look at it. 2516 02:40:37,980 --> 02:40:41,310 Right. And I'm gonna say, I got a whole nother show. And we 2517 02:40:41,310 --> 02:40:46,800 built some of that. But I had to explain that wire so taboo to 2518 02:40:46,800 --> 02:40:50,010 talk about it. You're saying, because this is some heavy stuff 2519 02:40:50,040 --> 02:40:53,550 in there. And you're saying, when the fact that we do have 2520 02:40:53,550 --> 02:40:58,230 you ever had a conversation in which such a light, you know, 2521 02:40:58,740 --> 02:41:02,310 bounce to it, you know, is a great thing, because you can't 2522 02:41:02,310 --> 02:41:04,920 get the truth. Like you said, All humor, all jokes have some 2523 02:41:04,920 --> 02:41:07,710 truth in it, of course, and this is what we're dealing with right 2524 02:41:07,710 --> 02:41:12,840 here. So moving forward, Farrakhan he was at Michigan 2525 02:41:12,840 --> 02:41:17,610 State, I think back in the late 90s. And they gave the student 2526 02:41:17,610 --> 02:41:20,430 grabbed like a black student body or African Studies group 2527 02:41:20,460 --> 02:41:22,980 that wanted to bring them there. And they said, No, you can't 2528 02:41:22,980 --> 02:41:24,870 bring them here. You have to pay from pay them out of your own 2529 02:41:24,870 --> 02:41:27,390 pocket, even though the university would pay for other 2530 02:41:27,390 --> 02:41:32,670 question, we'll guess. So he addresses that and then comes up 2531 02:41:32,670 --> 02:41:36,300 with a possible solution to the bet black athletes at Michigan 2532 02:41:36,300 --> 02:41:36,690 State. 2533 02:41:37,140 --> 02:41:42,660 Michigan State is a great university, one of the finest in 2534 02:41:42,660 --> 02:41:53,760 this nation. But each year, the black football players, the 2535 02:41:53,760 --> 02:42:00,780 black basketball players, the black athletes contribute so 2536 02:42:00,780 --> 02:42:11,700 much to the coffers of this university. One football game in 2537 02:42:11,700 --> 02:42:19,080 one football game, black talent gives to this university 2538 02:42:20,370 --> 02:42:27,150 millions yet a black person that means something to black 2539 02:42:27,150 --> 02:42:33,450 students. Whether I mean anything to white folk at all is 2540 02:42:33,480 --> 02:42:40,500 irrelevant. But if I mean something to my own people, the 2541 02:42:40,500 --> 02:42:44,430 least you could do out of respect for what black people 2542 02:42:44,430 --> 02:42:49,170 give to this institution is to fact these two decent what they 2543 02:42:49,170 --> 02:42:58,830 want this is a shame. Maybe we ought to tell all blacks do 2544 02:42:58,890 --> 02:43:01,170 this. Get the hell out of white university. 2545 02:43:06,240 --> 02:43:08,430 Oh, no, no, we can't have that. 2546 02:43:09,360 --> 02:43:13,620 That's a bought multibillion dollar move potential 2547 02:43:13,890 --> 02:43:17,670 move. That's a baller move to do that. Yeah, 2548 02:43:17,700 --> 02:43:22,920 they they had it all laid out with collegiate sports. You 2549 02:43:22,920 --> 02:43:27,060 don't play the players? Right? You can work them for sunup to 2550 02:43:27,060 --> 02:43:31,380 sundown. You know, we don't pay them. Most of them are not going 2551 02:43:31,380 --> 02:43:33,660 to go on to the professional leagues, but then they can 2552 02:43:33,660 --> 02:43:37,620 monetize what you're saying they're actually playing of 2553 02:43:37,620 --> 02:43:42,990 games. One one being the SEC is one of the biggest benefactors 2554 02:43:43,020 --> 02:43:49,320 of this system. The SEC SEC the south south eastern South 2555 02:43:49,350 --> 02:43:49,710 Eastern 2556 02:43:50,400 --> 02:43:53,850 to me. SEC is Securities Exchange Commission. I'm sorry, 2557 02:43:53,880 --> 02:43:54,210 it could 2558 02:43:54,210 --> 02:44:00,450 it couldn't be much money isn't making. But yeah, Alabama, 2559 02:44:00,450 --> 02:44:05,100 Arkansas Allbritton. All the Tennessee all these schools in 2560 02:44:05,100 --> 02:44:10,200 the south are right ground since grant on ground zero for all 2561 02:44:10,200 --> 02:44:14,820 this black genetics. This is put it like that which makes an 2562 02:44:14,820 --> 02:44:17,850 error because that that's where the genetics were created. 2563 02:44:18,300 --> 02:44:21,990 Exactly. And they're monetizing it and they're not paying 2564 02:44:22,020 --> 02:44:25,740 anything for it. But enters go. Well, I 2565 02:44:25,740 --> 02:44:30,210 was gonna say so in if you're really into football. Do you 2566 02:44:30,210 --> 02:44:36,180 look at where someone comes from? In that way? Like, we're 2567 02:44:36,180 --> 02:44:41,130 looking at some new recruits and do the do the coaches only do 2568 02:44:41,130 --> 02:44:44,130 when did the scouts have the only look at the performance? So 2569 02:44:44,130 --> 02:44:47,130 they say well, you know, we got a good spot over here. We've had 2570 02:44:47,130 --> 02:44:50,130 some good genetic luck over here is that play into it? 2571 02:44:50,610 --> 02:44:54,930 Well, they look at this talent. But these there's these hubs of 2572 02:44:54,930 --> 02:44:58,350 talent. These schools that are not like for instance, oneness 2573 02:44:58,350 --> 02:45:01,680 in North Charlotte, North Carolina call end Pinellas all 2574 02:45:01,680 --> 02:45:04,200 the best players across Charlotte want to go to 2575 02:45:04,200 --> 02:45:07,410 independence. So you get like it's a million plus people in 2576 02:45:07,410 --> 02:45:12,240 Charlotte, you're seeing a large black population. So you only 2577 02:45:12,240 --> 02:45:16,320 have to go to these hubs. But now with the advent of YouTube 2578 02:45:16,320 --> 02:45:18,600 and everybody having a camera, you got film just telling 2579 02:45:18,750 --> 02:45:24,210 everybody what they know. Like I said, Florida, Alabama, 2580 02:45:24,210 --> 02:45:28,530 Mississippi, Louisiana and go over to Texas, you're saying all 2581 02:45:28,530 --> 02:45:33,780 these are hotbed with a call for blue chips. And even straight on 2582 02:45:33,780 --> 02:45:40,020 five star four star three star athletes. Cool. And they start 2583 02:45:40,050 --> 02:45:45,360 at 789 10 years old. This is why Nike had these camps. And 2584 02:45:45,360 --> 02:45:48,720 they're recording their metrics all he runs a 420. He can jump 2585 02:45:48,720 --> 02:45:51,480 this high. Oh, we got to keep an eye on this kid over here. 2586 02:45:51,570 --> 02:45:56,430 You're saying this is why at LeBron James, at an at an eighth 2587 02:45:56,430 --> 02:45:59,160 ninth grade, Nike knew who LeBron was because they had the 2588 02:45:59,160 --> 02:46:02,730 Nike camp. Right? They knew Oh, he's on the upper call. We got 2589 02:46:02,730 --> 02:46:05,790 to put him on. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And they 2590 02:46:05,820 --> 02:46:10,560 institute rules like the one and done they say, Oh, we lost 2591 02:46:10,560 --> 02:46:14,490 Lebron James. He skipped over college. No, no more. We got to 2592 02:46:14,490 --> 02:46:18,570 go to school for one year. Right? Why cost? We said so. But 2593 02:46:18,570 --> 02:46:22,680 why does a top programmer have to go to college for one year 2594 02:46:22,680 --> 02:46:25,470 before they go to work at Facebook, IBM now most Google 2595 02:46:25,470 --> 02:46:29,100 most of them didn't even go to college. But college football 2596 02:46:29,100 --> 02:46:32,010 you you gotta go school two years lost college basketball, 2597 02:46:32,010 --> 02:46:33,480 you got to go once, right? Well, 2598 02:46:33,480 --> 02:46:37,410 they a they want they invest the initial money, be they're 2599 02:46:37,410 --> 02:46:40,890 probably getting money from Nike. See, they want to make 2600 02:46:40,890 --> 02:46:42,030 sure they get the money back 2601 02:46:42,780 --> 02:46:46,020 where they want to tie these athletes to these universities. 2602 02:46:46,890 --> 02:46:49,260 Because whatever they invested in them, they're gonna get a 2603 02:46:49,290 --> 02:46:53,010 look at Zion Williamson 100, you're saying he would have went 2604 02:46:53,010 --> 02:46:55,800 straight to the NBA. But he said, No, you got to go to do 2605 02:46:55,800 --> 02:47:00,990 and this is the this is the conflict I have with it. Because 2606 02:47:00,990 --> 02:47:04,140 on one hand, you're seeing these young man get the opportunity to 2607 02:47:04,140 --> 02:47:07,860 go to these prestigious universities get education, just 2608 02:47:07,860 --> 02:47:10,920 go if their athletics don't pan out for him, you're saying they 2609 02:47:10,920 --> 02:47:15,090 could be something, you know, meaningful in life. But on the 2610 02:47:15,150 --> 02:47:19,740 other hand, that legacy is still there. The way they met. That's 2611 02:47:19,740 --> 02:47:22,710 what gave Kaepernick the opening say, oh, yeah, they're their 2612 02:47:22,710 --> 02:47:29,040 modern day plantation owners. Imagery is there. Yeah. But 2613 02:47:29,040 --> 02:47:31,470 here's the problem. You have somebody like Deion Sanders, 2614 02:47:31,470 --> 02:47:35,550 I'll tell you what, we got no problem. Here's the problem. Dr. 2615 02:47:35,550 --> 02:47:40,020 Sanders came in. And he said, I'm gonna go to HBCU, 2616 02:47:40,020 --> 02:47:43,380 Historically Black College or University, and I'm going to 2617 02:47:43,380 --> 02:47:50,520 bring that top level talent over to the HBCU with me. Problem. So 2618 02:47:51,210 --> 02:47:51,840 let's go ahead and 2619 02:47:53,130 --> 02:47:54,300 get started. 2620 02:47:54,690 --> 02:47:57,930 I don't know. I don't know why. But I remember for whatever 2621 02:47:57,930 --> 02:48:03,840 reason, in New York, there was the D on why was that that just 2622 02:48:03,840 --> 02:48:06,570 popped in my head. There was something he would do and won't 2623 02:48:06,570 --> 02:48:13,020 go D on. Do you remember this? Ah, okay, maybe maybe if we get 2624 02:48:13,020 --> 02:48:14,160 some clips I'll remember. 2625 02:48:14,550 --> 02:48:19,170 Okay, so now this is when the first started in got hired by 2626 02:48:19,200 --> 02:48:23,730 HBCU Jackson State University 31 Gotta go 2627 02:48:23,730 --> 02:48:27,060 to the man who have done it all on the field and is now make it 2628 02:48:27,060 --> 02:48:29,430 an historic move to the sidelines to take on a 2629 02:48:29,430 --> 02:48:33,030 meaningful new challenge. NFL Hall of Famer Deion Sanders, has 2630 02:48:33,030 --> 02:48:36,720 been named the head coach of Jackson State University tigers, 2631 02:48:36,900 --> 02:48:38,940 and we're going to talk to him in live in just a moment all 2632 02:48:38,940 --> 02:48:42,630 about how he plans to make an impact at this HBCU. But first, 2633 02:48:42,630 --> 02:48:46,350 let's flip. Let's find out more about that big news from my 2634 02:48:46,350 --> 02:48:50,790 friend Deion Sanders this morning. A huge score for 2635 02:48:50,790 --> 02:48:54,360 Jackson State University in Mississippi. Deion Sanders, the 2636 02:48:54,360 --> 02:48:58,320 football hall of famer World Series competitor and two times 2637 02:48:58,320 --> 02:49:01,230 Super Bowl champion, taking over the head coach at the 2638 02:49:01,230 --> 02:49:03,090 historically black university. 2639 02:49:03,210 --> 02:49:07,350 That is a pivotal turning point for JSU football and Jackson 2640 02:49:07,350 --> 02:49:08,370 State University. 2641 02:49:08,730 --> 02:49:12,000 The announcement expected to bring renewed energy to the JSU 2642 02:49:12,000 --> 02:49:15,510 athletic program, making the school a bigger draw for 2643 02:49:15,510 --> 02:49:18,690 potential recruits, Sanders announcements coming on the 2644 02:49:18,690 --> 02:49:22,050 heels of five star recruit mCore maker who stunned us sports 2645 02:49:22,050 --> 02:49:26,370 world where he committed to Howard University, another HBCU 2646 02:49:26,490 --> 02:49:30,810 saying that he hopes to make the HBCU movement real so that 2647 02:49:30,840 --> 02:49:32,070 others will follow. 2648 02:49:32,490 --> 02:49:35,460 I remember it's not that big a deal. It was because of course 2649 02:49:35,460 --> 02:49:37,710 he was playing for the Yankees and the Mets were the fans or go 2650 02:49:37,710 --> 02:49:40,680 D like bad or bad about it. You know, that kind of thing. Okay. 2651 02:49:41,220 --> 02:49:42,060 That's what that was about. 2652 02:49:42,150 --> 02:49:45,960 Yeah. What you see now how he could become a disruptive figure 2653 02:49:45,960 --> 02:49:52,020 in his being. Yeah, very. And I have to say it is Deion Sanders 2654 02:49:52,020 --> 02:49:57,750 is by far one of the top athletes in American history. 2655 02:49:58,320 --> 02:50:01,830 And we're not talking about it. Are we talking about money 2656 02:50:01,830 --> 02:50:05,040 celebrity? I'm talking about Michael Jordan. Oh, yeah. 2657 02:50:05,070 --> 02:50:08,640 Because he had the personality, you know, saying like, he, he's 2658 02:50:08,640 --> 02:50:11,220 one of those people that he makes you smile by him smiling 2659 02:50:11,280 --> 02:50:16,530 kind of person. You know, he just, and he's so. So set in his 2660 02:50:16,530 --> 02:50:21,480 confidence. You know that it just, it's just amazing. I mean, 2661 02:50:21,480 --> 02:50:25,980 I grew up watching Dr. Always from Florida State. And he gave 2662 02:50:25,980 --> 02:50:29,040 me high hopes when he started going to HBCU. I'm like, okay, 2663 02:50:29,340 --> 02:50:34,020 that kind of figure going to the HBCU and kids are saying 2664 02:50:34,020 --> 02:50:38,280 gravitated towards him. That can be very disruptive. You want to 2665 02:50:38,280 --> 02:50:39,120 say something before we go. 2666 02:50:39,600 --> 02:50:41,550 No, no, no, I'm good. I'm all yours. 2667 02:50:42,360 --> 02:50:46,680 My friend the one and only Deion Sanders Dion. Thank you for 2668 02:50:46,680 --> 02:50:49,680 joining us. Congratulations to you. We heard one of your 2669 02:50:49,680 --> 02:50:52,860 players say Oh, it does doesn't feel real, that they feel real 2670 02:50:52,860 --> 02:50:55,200 to you and what went through your mind when the opportunity 2671 02:50:55,200 --> 02:50:57,450 to be the head coach of Jackson State University came along. 2672 02:50:59,040 --> 02:51:02,430 I was elated. You talking about a team academically that leads 2673 02:51:02,430 --> 02:51:06,780 the FCS in APR. You're talking about a school? That's 2674 02:51:06,810 --> 02:51:11,160 unheralded, 33,000 fans, which is astounding. You're talking 2675 02:51:11,160 --> 02:51:14,700 about four former Hall of Famers that matriculated from this 2676 02:51:14,700 --> 02:51:19,230 institution. I am excited. I'm I'm elated. I have on my whistle 2677 02:51:19,230 --> 02:51:21,720 right now. I cannot wait to get on the grass and do some 2678 02:51:21,720 --> 02:51:22,470 coaching. Yeah, 2679 02:51:22,470 --> 02:51:24,330 good. Don't blow you with the doing this interview. We don't 2680 02:51:24,330 --> 02:51:27,660 we don't need that this morning. But there are a lot of good and 2681 02:51:27,660 --> 02:51:30,600 a big 10 schools, for instance, big 10 schools today, they have 2682 02:51:30,600 --> 02:51:34,110 so many more resources. But you decided to go to Jackson State 2683 02:51:34,110 --> 02:51:36,900 when I'm sure you had other opportunities. So this is an 2684 02:51:36,900 --> 02:51:40,020 historic move why that's so important to you to coach at an 2685 02:51:40,020 --> 02:51:40,830 HBCU. 2686 02:51:42,690 --> 02:51:45,600 First and foremost, God led me to Jackson State. That's what I 2687 02:51:45,600 --> 02:51:49,860 can truly honestly say. And it's just sitting on that stage and 2688 02:51:49,860 --> 02:51:54,330 looking my people in the eye and saying and proclaiming what I 2689 02:51:54,330 --> 02:51:57,510 plan on doing with this program. We have a coaching staff that 2690 02:51:57,510 --> 02:52:00,870 has 84 years of NFL Experience combined coaching and playing. 2691 02:52:01,170 --> 02:52:04,290 And these kids just need the level field, just level they 2692 02:52:04,290 --> 02:52:07,860 need the playing field level. I cannot wait for this 2693 02:52:07,860 --> 02:52:11,220 opportunity. If you give us the resources you give us the same 2694 02:52:11,220 --> 02:52:13,830 resources that these other schools have. We're going to 2695 02:52:13,830 --> 02:52:16,560 prove that there is a highway that takes you from Jackson 2696 02:52:16,560 --> 02:52:19,830 State all the way into the NFL, and professionalism. We're not 2697 02:52:19,830 --> 02:52:21,930 just raising professional football players. We're raising 2698 02:52:21,930 --> 02:52:22,650 professionals 2699 02:52:22,680 --> 02:52:25,770 new the highway. That's right, roll. 2700 02:52:27,810 --> 02:52:31,560 That's where he messed up. Because when you set this 2701 02:52:31,560 --> 02:52:34,500 standard that God sends me for my people, 2702 02:52:34,530 --> 02:52:37,470 oh, he's Yeah, he's a Christian. Oops. 2703 02:52:38,190 --> 02:52:42,600 Well, you start tapping into that Messiah figure. By I'm 2704 02:52:42,600 --> 02:52:45,750 hearing you're saying that resurrect HBCU football people 2705 02:52:45,750 --> 02:52:51,840 start believing you. And when that dream comes to an end, as 2706 02:52:51,840 --> 02:52:55,710 you're gonna see later, he gets a lot of backlash from when he 2707 02:52:55,710 --> 02:52:59,340 decides to take his talents elsewhere. Does spoiler alert, 2708 02:52:59,430 --> 02:53:02,460 I'm just telling you, like when you start that God sent me for 2709 02:53:02,460 --> 02:53:07,470 our people, bah, bah, bah, that says, you know, okay, we got to 2710 02:53:07,470 --> 02:53:09,720 say we got up someone you're saying like, yeah, do you know 2711 02:53:09,720 --> 02:53:16,890 you're saying go to HBCUs. And I think that was the beginning of 2712 02:53:16,890 --> 02:53:19,920 his downfall for if he ever saw, you know, he didn't give 2713 02:53:19,920 --> 02:53:22,380 yourself any wiggle room, which I knew. And let's give me a 2714 02:53:22,380 --> 02:53:26,790 little history of Deion Sanders, like a quick 32nd history. Dr. 2715 02:53:26,790 --> 02:53:30,720 Sanders has always done what's best for him. He came up with 2716 02:53:30,720 --> 02:53:34,920 the term business decision. That means like, if a guy's coming at 2717 02:53:34,920 --> 02:53:38,790 him, he's a defensive player. I'm not gonna tackle him, I'm 2718 02:53:38,790 --> 02:53:41,340 gonna shout out push him out of bounds. I'm not gonna tackle him 2719 02:53:41,340 --> 02:53:44,730 because I got to live to play another game. Another day. So 2720 02:53:44,730 --> 02:53:46,410 this isn't meant not nothing. 2721 02:53:47,580 --> 02:53:50,160 That when you say Oh, I made a business decision. Is that what 2722 02:53:50,460 --> 02:53:56,100 he created the term business decision? Yeah. Fast forward. He 2723 02:53:56,100 --> 02:53:59,370 went from Atlanta to San Francisco won a championship 2724 02:53:59,370 --> 02:54:02,880 with San Francisco Super Bowl left from there. The very next 2725 02:54:02,880 --> 02:54:07,950 year went to Dallas, their arch enemy. USA. So it's like he he's 2726 02:54:08,400 --> 02:54:11,850 higher sward? Which I have no problem with that. You're gonna 2727 02:54:11,850 --> 02:54:14,760 say if you're upfront honest with people, but I understood 2728 02:54:14,760 --> 02:54:17,880 when you start making zoning around a God sent me and I'm 2729 02:54:17,880 --> 02:54:21,150 hearing you're saying that build the highway, you're saying and 2730 02:54:21,630 --> 02:54:24,210 yeah, that becomes a problem. So let's go ahead and get to the 2731 02:54:24,210 --> 02:54:28,200 final clip. Before we thanks for more people, but then I'm gonna 2732 02:54:28,200 --> 02:54:30,480 explain to you you're saying how it went wrong. 2733 02:54:30,690 --> 02:54:35,280 And I am HBCU proud of myself. So I think this, as you said, it 2734 02:54:35,280 --> 02:54:37,920 gives some legitimacy to the program that and does put you on 2735 02:54:38,640 --> 02:54:41,160 the same playing field, which is very important for all these 2736 02:54:41,160 --> 02:54:44,670 young men out there and and a top Prospect Record maker, he 2737 02:54:44,670 --> 02:54:47,940 was recruited by some big college basketball program, he 2738 02:54:47,940 --> 02:54:50,010 had announced that he was going to attend Howard University 2739 02:54:50,130 --> 02:54:53,850 because it is an HBCU. So do you think this is the beginning of a 2740 02:54:53,850 --> 02:54:56,130 trend by some of these young black athletes? 2741 02:54:57,600 --> 02:55:00,780 I'm praying so I'm not just the young black guy. Please parents 2742 02:55:00,780 --> 02:55:04,680 as well. Only a kid just wants to know when I leave the inner 2743 02:55:04,680 --> 02:55:07,470 city can I go to a better situation? That's why we're 2744 02:55:07,470 --> 02:55:09,900 trying to show them how wonderful the dorms are the 2745 02:55:09,900 --> 02:55:12,870 training tables. We have new facilities going in Jackson 2746 02:55:12,870 --> 02:55:16,440 State University as we speak, which should be concluded by 2747 02:55:16,440 --> 02:55:20,460 June. I cannot wait loans these kids know we're gonna get a 2748 02:55:20,460 --> 02:55:24,330 better situation didn't once we left, there have to do it. And 2749 02:55:24,330 --> 02:55:27,480 I'm praying that they do because we sent out a bunch of offers 2750 02:55:27,480 --> 02:55:30,810 yesterday to some of the best we're not recruiting low caliber 2751 02:55:30,810 --> 02:55:33,420 kids. We're recruiting the same kids at some of the major 2752 02:55:33,420 --> 02:55:35,760 universities are recruiting and we plan on landing them. 2753 02:55:39,420 --> 02:55:43,290 Alright, so you see the standard he set for himself? Yeah. That 2754 02:55:43,290 --> 02:55:45,750 was a few years ago. This is Pete George Floyd around that 2755 02:55:45,750 --> 02:55:51,270 era. You know, in the Colin Kaepernick this all in that era, 2756 02:55:51,300 --> 02:55:56,190 you know, saying so just to give you some context to help people 2757 02:55:56,190 --> 02:55:58,440 were thinking at the time, but let's go ahead and thanks some 2758 02:55:58,440 --> 02:56:02,760 more people. And then we'll get to the fallout after after. We 2759 02:56:02,760 --> 02:56:03,330 thanks to people. 2760 02:56:05,400 --> 02:56:07,830 I like brand new money. I just I don't want any money around me. 2761 02:56:07,830 --> 02:56:12,810 It's not. I'd almost rather have a new one than a brand then an 2762 02:56:12,810 --> 02:56:16,950 old 20 That's kind of dumb. But there's some bad new money that 2763 02:56:16,950 --> 02:56:22,890 excites you. You like $100 bills. owe money to the most 2764 02:56:22,890 --> 02:56:25,770 beautiful thing on earth is $100 bill I haven't seen a woman is 2765 02:56:25,770 --> 02:56:28,860 good looking at $100 bill. There's something about a bill 2766 02:56:28,860 --> 02:56:29,580 that excites you. 2767 02:56:30,180 --> 02:56:33,450 That's right. Don't get too used to him because that paper money 2768 02:56:33,450 --> 02:56:36,450 is going away fast and furious. However, we love getting some 2769 02:56:36,450 --> 02:56:39,540 value from you. And you can do that through Pay Pal. You can do 2770 02:56:39,540 --> 02:56:43,770 it through podcasting 2.0 apps, which we discussed earlier. A 2771 02:56:43,770 --> 02:56:47,610 couple more producers to thank we really appreciate the $40 we 2772 02:56:47,610 --> 02:56:52,650 got from Alejandro alo shell out CO ser Jennifer Kato and Matthew 2773 02:56:52,650 --> 02:56:58,320 Weaver, Raphael Nagrand says much respect also in $39.99. 2774 02:56:58,320 --> 02:57:01,920 Nice with much respect for being a great example of a good family 2775 02:57:01,920 --> 02:57:05,280 head. I'm a child from a broken family who got married and I'm 2776 02:57:05,280 --> 02:57:08,730 trying to sew up a legacy together with my wife and two 2777 02:57:08,730 --> 02:57:11,340 boys. Thanks for the inspiration. Keep mo fact in 2778 02:57:11,340 --> 02:57:14,940 them in the mouse. All right. You got a man thank you. We got 2779 02:57:14,940 --> 02:57:21,630 a combined Mark Jay Asher 2412 12 And two, and he says oh, 2780 02:57:21,630 --> 02:57:24,600 he said actually he loved episode 29 The row know what a 2781 02:57:24,600 --> 02:57:29,370 classic. When will the word when will the word they be banned? 2782 02:57:29,850 --> 02:57:32,010 I'm not quite sure what he means by that they 2783 02:57:32,040 --> 02:57:35,370 were the word they I think the word may be banned. 2784 02:57:35,400 --> 02:57:40,200 Ah, gotcha. And it's actually sent to to for the for the 2785 02:57:40,200 --> 02:57:46,470 episode 29 We appreciate that. David J. Langford. $34.56 Could 2786 02:57:46,470 --> 02:57:50,070 you do an episode on suburb kids wearing blackface Halloween 2787 02:57:50,070 --> 02:57:50,970 costumes? 2788 02:57:51,330 --> 02:57:55,740 I looked at his Twitter and it's just some people in blackface 2789 02:57:56,040 --> 02:58:03,180 were praising suits on Utah Yeah, I mean I you probably put 2790 02:58:03,180 --> 02:58:03,690 the link in 2791 02:58:04,409 --> 02:58:06,959 I'll put the link in the show notes so I haven't looked at it 2792 02:58:06,959 --> 02:58:11,759 so I have no opinion by the way. Maybe a future show. I'd love to 2793 02:58:11,759 --> 02:58:14,309 talk to you about what's happening with so called Black 2794 02:58:14,309 --> 02:58:16,019 Twitter on Mastodon 2795 02:58:17,490 --> 02:58:21,210 This is really etiquette. Yeah, the collars mods. Yeah, very 2796 02:58:21,210 --> 02:58:23,820 interesting. Anyway, just we'll set that aside. I'm glad I'm 2797 02:58:23,820 --> 02:58:25,950 glad you already heard about it. So I'll pick up on that later. 2798 02:58:26,250 --> 02:58:29,400 Now we got some 30 threes value for value from Christopher de 2799 02:58:29,400 --> 02:58:34,530 biasI. Mount Mark Talbot $30 Thank you Aaron Tanner. 25 Thank 2800 02:58:34,530 --> 02:58:40,170 you. He says thank you as well. Cayenne 25. 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Looking forward to a great 2023 2855 03:02:16,260 --> 03:02:22,350 it is Mo facts.com mov f@z.com or mo funmi.com If you want to 2856 03:02:22,350 --> 03:02:25,830 go directly to the donation page, we really appreciate it 2857 03:02:25,830 --> 03:02:28,980 looking forward to Episode 89 Thank you very much for 2858 03:02:28,980 --> 03:02:30,690 supporting Moe facts with Adam curry. 2859 03:02:32,400 --> 03:02:35,550 Alright, so I gave you the brief history of Deion Sanders sports 2860 03:02:35,550 --> 03:02:38,190 career but we got to go back a little bit further just to 2861 03:02:38,190 --> 03:02:42,120 understand who he is in the making as a person. This is a 2862 03:02:42,120 --> 03:02:47,190 from a 2002 documentary primetime to Deion Sanders story 2863 03:02:47,220 --> 03:02:50,130 this is gonna go over his childhood real quickly so we can 2864 03:02:50,130 --> 03:02:52,110 just get an understanding who he is. 2865 03:02:54,330 --> 03:02:57,120 Deion Sanders grew up living with his mother and sister in a 2866 03:02:57,120 --> 03:03:01,170 public housing project in Fort Myers, Florida. A neighborhood 2867 03:03:01,170 --> 03:03:03,900 so riddled with crime came with its own jail. 2868 03:03:04,380 --> 03:03:08,220 The police decided to put a police substation right inside 2869 03:03:08,220 --> 03:03:10,440 the project. So they could take the jail right here in the 2870 03:03:10,440 --> 03:03:14,280 project. And they put barbed wire all around is a sort of 2871 03:03:14,280 --> 03:03:15,030 like a prison. 2872 03:03:16,560 --> 03:03:19,950 Dance all the pain and misery of the projects from close range. 2873 03:03:20,610 --> 03:03:24,270 His father, daddy Buck who left the family when dad was a child 2874 03:03:24,270 --> 03:03:27,300 was frequently unemployed and addicted to drugs. 2875 03:03:27,690 --> 03:03:32,640 My biological father died but he use drugs. I've seen him when 2876 03:03:32,640 --> 03:03:35,190 needles people in his room shooting up and those are the 2877 03:03:35,190 --> 03:03:39,150 reasons why I've never chosen to drink or smoke in entirety of my 2878 03:03:39,150 --> 03:03:39,660 life. 2879 03:03:40,170 --> 03:03:48,240 Mennonites, you know. We lay up in the bed and we talk you know, 2880 03:03:48,240 --> 03:03:52,350 and I explained to him you know that your dad is gone, but I'm 2881 03:03:52,350 --> 03:03:57,150 here for you. Last time we cried. We made 2882 03:03:57,930 --> 03:03:59,040 the Huxtables unreal. 2883 03:03:59,249 --> 03:04:03,419 Do you know an African American families? Really? I don't I 2884 03:04:03,419 --> 03:04:06,629 don't know anyone who whose father is a doctor to mother's 2885 03:04:06,629 --> 03:04:08,459 lawyer. I don't we didn't grow up like this. 2886 03:04:11,070 --> 03:04:18,390 So I rang the bell because um it just goes to show you that he 2887 03:04:18,390 --> 03:04:21,570 doesn't drink he doesn't smoke. And the worst thing you could 2888 03:04:21,570 --> 03:04:27,000 say like he likes to party I mean like how fun they me. 2889 03:04:27,900 --> 03:04:32,880 Strong black men raise his sons to be outstanding man. I think 2890 03:04:32,880 --> 03:04:35,730 that's why he was kind of marginalize for for somebody 2891 03:04:35,730 --> 03:04:39,000 with his I mean, you got to understand. Deion Sanders was 2892 03:04:39,000 --> 03:04:44,040 the only non quarterback to have his own video game. And that's 2893 03:04:44,040 --> 03:04:50,580 how I mean everything was I mean Nikes rise was really huge with 2894 03:04:50,580 --> 03:04:54,300 Dallas Cowboys rise and Deion Sanders rise. him running down 2895 03:04:54,300 --> 03:05:00,120 the sideline with a bandana on with the Nike Nike band Do 2896 03:05:00,660 --> 03:05:06,120 headbands around his neck all Nike symbols all over. But some 2897 03:05:06,120 --> 03:05:10,500 reason he they didn't elevate him like they do a LeBron or 2898 03:05:10,590 --> 03:05:14,430 even Michael Jordan. What could it be? Because he has clean cut 2899 03:05:14,460 --> 03:05:21,090 image, right? I just found that weird. You're saying that he 2900 03:05:21,090 --> 03:05:24,390 wasn't given the if he weren't given his flowers I'll say like 2901 03:05:24,390 --> 03:05:25,920 that, like you think he should have? 2902 03:05:27,060 --> 03:05:30,630 Okay. All right. So and there's reasons for that, I guess. 2903 03:05:31,440 --> 03:05:34,380 Right? Because why you don't fit that he didn't didn't fit the 2904 03:05:34,380 --> 03:05:39,870 profile? Well, it's a funny thing because he came in right 2905 03:05:39,870 --> 03:05:43,410 when hip hop was getting big. And he was one of the first hip 2906 03:05:43,410 --> 03:05:46,650 hop athletes you say embracing that. You know, 2907 03:05:46,680 --> 03:05:49,500 didn't even go imagery. You need to a hip hop song. 2908 03:05:49,710 --> 03:05:59,340 tinny. Yeah, must be the money must be baseball basketball 2909 03:05:59,370 --> 03:06:02,970 game, excuse me, baseball, football, a pro level baseball, 2910 03:06:03,210 --> 03:06:08,910 football. music video. I mean, he had it all. But for some 2911 03:06:08,910 --> 03:06:12,240 reason, they wouldn't elevate him. And I think the reason why 2912 03:06:12,240 --> 03:06:19,020 because he didn't fit that. Negative Hip Hop imagery. They 2913 03:06:19,020 --> 03:06:21,510 were trying to run when you were saying like, he's a preacher, 2914 03:06:21,510 --> 03:06:24,420 man, or whatever you're saying like, he's a goody, goody. So I 2915 03:06:24,420 --> 03:06:27,810 just want to point that out. Um, anything else you'd like to say? 2916 03:06:28,380 --> 03:06:33,090 No, no, no, keep up. So now we get to development of primetime 2917 03:06:33,090 --> 03:06:35,550 the actual personality and that's 36. 2918 03:06:36,419 --> 03:06:39,689 As a poor kid from the projects, Deion Sanders had used school 2919 03:06:39,689 --> 03:06:43,769 sports to steer clear of drugs and crime. Now at the age of 18. 2920 03:06:43,769 --> 03:06:47,249 As he graduated high school, he was facing new temptations. The 2921 03:06:47,249 --> 03:06:50,699 Kansas City Royals were offering the quick road to riches, just 2922 03:06:50,699 --> 03:06:53,729 as Florida State had offered Dion a free ride to college. 2923 03:06:53,910 --> 03:06:57,810 He thought if they can offer him send the 5000 He can make even 2924 03:06:57,810 --> 03:07:00,000 much more if he go to college. 2925 03:07:00,419 --> 03:07:04,589 I believe in me, like no other. If you don't believe in 2926 03:07:04,589 --> 03:07:06,059 yourself, hey, nobody else will. 2927 03:07:07,860 --> 03:07:09,510 And I think I'm going to school. 2928 03:07:15,870 --> 03:07:19,620 In the summer of 1985, Dion chose to attend Florida State. 2929 03:07:20,010 --> 03:07:22,980 By the end of his first year, he was making a name for himself in 2930 03:07:22,980 --> 03:07:27,180 three sports, football, baseball, and sometimes track 2931 03:07:28,830 --> 03:07:32,190 our track coach ask him when you run in one of our meats, 2932 03:07:33,150 --> 03:07:36,390 probably our only one of your meats. So he runs into meat and 2933 03:07:36,390 --> 03:07:38,790 whips world class fellas 2934 03:07:42,090 --> 03:07:44,010 that's the kind of genetics I'm talking about. 2935 03:07:45,090 --> 03:07:45,480 Yeah. 2936 03:07:47,820 --> 03:07:50,970 And there's only one Deion Sanders in his world. That 2937 03:07:50,970 --> 03:07:53,730 that's the level I'm talking about that you can just oh yeah, 2938 03:07:53,730 --> 03:07:58,590 go run. Right and what people have been training for. I mean, 2939 03:07:58,590 --> 03:08:01,440 that's their discipline is the run track and track it takes 2940 03:08:01,440 --> 03:08:04,710 form. I'll just go out here running now. 2941 03:08:05,460 --> 03:08:09,180 Literally just run. Right. I don't have any technique I'm 2942 03:08:09,180 --> 03:08:09,870 just gonna run. 2943 03:08:10,650 --> 03:08:13,860 Right so I'm just sure I mean, that that's that's one in a 2944 03:08:13,860 --> 03:08:18,360 lifetime you're saying I would say one in a generation type of 2945 03:08:19,200 --> 03:08:24,360 talent you know and God gift and ability but he was smart enough 2946 03:08:24,360 --> 03:08:29,730 to monetize it. And you can see how he was smart enough to 2947 03:08:29,730 --> 03:08:32,910 you're saying because you have control an image and 37 and you 2948 03:08:32,910 --> 03:08:33,990 if you would like to ask him 2949 03:08:35,520 --> 03:08:39,810 No, you rang the bell about him going to school? Because you can 2950 03:08:39,810 --> 03:08:42,300 make more money. They said oh yeah, yeah, 2951 03:08:42,300 --> 03:08:46,200 cuz he understood like if they're gonna pay me 75,000 To 2952 03:08:46,200 --> 03:08:50,220 play baseball minor league I gotta be worth more and that 2953 03:08:50,220 --> 03:08:55,050 leads me to my Master P quote, you're saying that I learned to 2954 03:08:55,050 --> 03:08:58,500 live by another person that you know, he didn't conform to the 2955 03:08:58,500 --> 03:09:01,440 way the industry wanted to go with music. But he said if they 2956 03:09:01,440 --> 03:09:05,790 want to pay you to me you must be worked for right so it's this 2957 03:09:05,790 --> 03:09:09,300 mentality of knowing your worth believing in yourself. You know, 2958 03:09:09,300 --> 03:09:13,170 and this is this is the kind of people we grew up looking to you 2959 03:09:13,170 --> 03:09:16,440 know, saying like primetime out there he get the respect he's 2960 03:09:16,440 --> 03:09:19,800 supposed to get you know, I'll tell you up there with Jordan 2961 03:09:19,830 --> 03:09:24,660 Isley that kind of person not take away money and personality 2962 03:09:24,660 --> 03:09:29,490 and and position. He's up there with those guys. Bow right on. 2963 03:09:30,630 --> 03:09:31,890 Alright, so 37 2964 03:09:32,640 --> 03:09:33,960 Deion Sanders deals. 2965 03:09:36,000 --> 03:09:39,270 By a sophomore year Dion had sealed his reputation as someone 2966 03:09:39,270 --> 03:09:43,530 to watch. The ambitious 19 year old wanted much more. So Dion 2967 03:09:43,530 --> 03:09:45,750 created a character he felt would distinguish him from the 2968 03:09:45,750 --> 03:09:47,820 rest of the pack. primetime. 2969 03:09:48,180 --> 03:09:52,560 Somebody convinced him hey, you can make a lot of money if you 2970 03:09:52,560 --> 03:09:54,570 sell yourself and that's exactly what he did. 2971 03:09:56,580 --> 03:09:59,610 Stealing a page from the school of corporate marketing being 2972 03:09:59,610 --> 03:10:05,190 created Character gave it a nickname. He began wearing gold 2973 03:10:05,190 --> 03:10:10,710 chains and giant rings. Dion drove around campus and his new 2974 03:10:10,710 --> 03:10:13,620 Chrysler convertible with personalized primetime license 2975 03:10:13,620 --> 03:10:16,800 plates. talking on his cell phone all courtesy of his hard 2976 03:10:16,800 --> 03:10:20,940 working mother Connie. The top quarterback in college football 2977 03:10:20,940 --> 03:10:24,030 hope primetime would help draw crowds and ticket sales 2978 03:10:24,270 --> 03:10:27,840 convincing big league scouts to write him vaguely checks 2979 03:10:28,470 --> 03:10:31,830 he's the miser quarterbacks isn't making any money. He's got 2980 03:10:31,830 --> 03:10:36,270 to do something to make plenty of money. Because he always used 2981 03:10:36,270 --> 03:10:41,760 to always say a closed mouth is never feed just created a 2982 03:10:41,760 --> 03:10:42,300 monster. 2983 03:10:43,050 --> 03:10:46,530 But the prime time monster was more than just clothing. Time 2984 03:10:46,530 --> 03:10:50,640 Time was also an attitude. An attitude Dion created based on 2985 03:10:50,640 --> 03:10:52,680 his four favorite sports idols. 2986 03:10:52,980 --> 03:10:55,920 Muhammad Ali because I love his brashness, but he backed it up. 2987 03:10:56,190 --> 03:10:59,370 Hank Aaron for the way he endured those trials and 2988 03:10:59,370 --> 03:11:02,130 tribulations racism. OJ Simpson. 2989 03:11:02,400 --> 03:11:06,660 He was juice and pizza care his life and took care him 2990 03:11:06,930 --> 03:11:14,010 Dr. J. Julius constant professional business life slide 2991 03:11:15,360 --> 03:11:16,200 of the dramatic. 2992 03:11:17,250 --> 03:11:19,380 Did it was his mama momager. 2993 03:11:20,820 --> 03:11:25,530 No, and that's that's cap. That's bullcrap that his mama 2994 03:11:25,530 --> 03:11:30,000 was paying for his cell phone and Chrysler LeBaron that he was 2995 03:11:30,000 --> 03:11:32,610 dropped, taught close the Luberon he was riding around it. 2996 03:11:32,880 --> 03:11:36,810 That was Florida State. And if this is this is the day like we 2997 03:11:36,810 --> 03:11:41,220 see I grew up ground on ground zero of collegiate sports in 2998 03:11:41,220 --> 03:11:44,100 Durham, North Carolina. Do you have a chapel here? Right, we're 2999 03:11:44,100 --> 03:11:48,930 seeing an eight miles down the road. We saw these guys receive 3000 03:11:48,930 --> 03:11:53,160 Wallace Jerry Stackhouse. All I'm saying grant, he'll have 3001 03:11:53,160 --> 03:11:56,700 money you're saying Dad was wealthy or rich, where however 3002 03:11:56,700 --> 03:11:59,820 you want to put it. But these guys talking about Dad had come 3003 03:11:59,820 --> 03:12:02,490 from nothing. And all of a sudden, they're moving their 3004 03:12:02,490 --> 03:12:05,880 whole family down for wherever they lived in apartments. And 3005 03:12:06,240 --> 03:12:10,890 then once that is, is a double standard, you're gonna hear a 3006 03:12:10,890 --> 03:12:14,940 little bit later that his mom was paying for all now he would 3007 03:12:14,940 --> 03:12:18,360 say he did everything he did, because my dad had no money. Now 3008 03:12:18,360 --> 03:12:20,940 all of a sudden, she has all this money to pay for what he 3009 03:12:20,940 --> 03:12:24,120 has. You see what I'm saying? Like, 3010 03:12:24,150 --> 03:12:29,220 well, that's like my, again, I was 17. But 18 Whenever I went 3011 03:12:29,220 --> 03:12:32,700 to college, and I had no idea I was I for all intensive 3012 03:12:32,700 --> 03:12:35,610 purposes, European. I didn't know about anything. And I you 3013 03:12:35,610 --> 03:12:39,120 know, I connected pretty well with with the football team and 3014 03:12:39,120 --> 03:12:42,990 a couple of guys on the team. And it was invited some parties, 3015 03:12:43,290 --> 03:12:46,200 and it's like, Oh, this guy's off campus. He's got a cool pad. 3016 03:12:46,200 --> 03:12:48,660 He's got a car's on a coach take share that we mean the coach 3017 03:12:48,660 --> 03:12:52,650 takes care. shouldn't talk about that. Ah, okay, so now I see. 3018 03:12:53,370 --> 03:12:53,700 And it's 3019 03:12:53,700 --> 03:12:58,440 really the boosters who take care of Oh, yeah, that is and 3020 03:12:58,440 --> 03:13:04,710 just as a quick aside, we've saw boosters in a movie, but they 3021 03:13:04,710 --> 03:13:07,620 put a sugar coat on it called the blindside you ever seen that 3022 03:13:07,620 --> 03:13:08,580 lie? Of course. I've 3023 03:13:08,580 --> 03:13:10,890 seen The Blindside? Absolutely. Okay. 3024 03:13:11,280 --> 03:13:16,470 The movie is a lot different from from reality that they 3025 03:13:16,470 --> 03:13:19,680 picked this guy up off the street in your disk, brought 3026 03:13:19,680 --> 03:13:23,220 them into their home and dad to teach them how to play football. 3027 03:13:23,220 --> 03:13:28,080 That dude was already a top recruit. Right when they but 3028 03:13:28,110 --> 03:13:32,640 they brought him in their home. And with the understanding that 3029 03:13:32,880 --> 03:13:36,870 you can go to school where you want to, but we're your but our 3030 03:13:36,870 --> 03:13:40,530 family and you're part of our family goes to I think it was 3031 03:13:41,370 --> 03:13:45,720 Mississippi State or omit one of those schools were SEC schools. 3032 03:13:46,170 --> 03:13:51,570 There's no saying and this is common. Got a guy went to school 3033 03:13:51,570 --> 03:13:55,290 with they realized he could play basketball real well in Round 3034 03:13:55,290 --> 03:13:59,610 six, seven a great plan Little League. family moved him in. 3035 03:14:00,060 --> 03:14:02,400 LeBron James went through the same thing. And it's a 3036 03:14:02,400 --> 03:14:06,450 phenomenon. If you ever watched any professional draft, you're 3037 03:14:06,450 --> 03:14:10,260 going to see the family and you'll see oftentimes the white 3038 03:14:10,260 --> 03:14:14,100 family that you're saying like oh, this is an asset, 3039 03:14:14,460 --> 03:14:16,800 the Sandra Bullock, right. 3040 03:14:18,150 --> 03:14:21,420 Yeah, I'm telling you, dude, watch any Sports Draft, we were 3041 03:14:21,420 --> 03:14:25,350 saying you will see. It's the real family, the biological 3042 03:14:25,350 --> 03:14:28,320 family. And then there's the benefactors, which I have no 3043 03:14:28,350 --> 03:14:31,860 issue with. You're saying My issue is, we need to start 3044 03:14:31,890 --> 03:14:39,600 taking these kids in route to HBCUs. And I'm not a hater. It 3045 03:14:39,600 --> 03:14:42,690 was working. But I'm telling you this. They like to paint the 3046 03:14:42,690 --> 03:14:45,510 blind side. Oh, we didn't know he could play football. You were 3047 03:14:45,510 --> 03:14:48,750 saying like, No, you knew exactly what you were getting 3048 03:14:48,750 --> 03:14:51,630 when you let him in your home. You're saying and it was with 3049 03:14:51,630 --> 03:14:54,780 the understanding that we could rouse you as a booster to our 3050 03:14:54,780 --> 03:14:56,460 university. Alma Mater. 3051 03:14:56,460 --> 03:14:59,700 So when you saw the movie, The Blind Side, right? Do you see 3052 03:14:59,700 --> 03:15:01,290 it? Nothing. theater. No, 3053 03:15:01,320 --> 03:15:02,520 I saw it at home. Okay, 3054 03:15:02,550 --> 03:15:03,810 so what did you think of it? 3055 03:15:04,620 --> 03:15:09,900 I knew exactly what was going on from the beginning. I mean, I 3056 03:15:09,900 --> 03:15:12,540 hate the sound light but I really do what is 3057 03:15:13,980 --> 03:15:16,710 so what was the point of this movie? Was it just a feel good 3058 03:15:16,710 --> 03:15:17,280 movie, 3059 03:15:17,610 --> 03:15:25,350 no to properly put to popularize that method to say it's okay to 3060 03:15:25,350 --> 03:15:29,640 saying bring top five, four or five star recruits into your 3061 03:15:29,640 --> 03:15:33,600 home to route no to your university. And like I say the 3062 03:15:33,600 --> 03:15:36,030 thing about his mom getting pat him on paying for all that 3063 03:15:36,030 --> 03:15:39,450 stuff. We saw his eye on we used to the mom and Nike head gave 3064 03:15:39,450 --> 03:15:43,230 her a job. You don't say like come on site they will LeBron 3065 03:15:43,230 --> 03:15:46,260 James his mama bought him a Hummer, he will say like well. 3066 03:15:48,570 --> 03:15:53,460 So what I'm saying is is very clear. And it was all movie 3067 03:15:53,460 --> 03:15:56,640 called the program the boosters count to get at her $100 3068 03:15:56,640 --> 03:15:59,670 handshake. I'll go down to the booth, go down to the 3069 03:15:59,670 --> 03:16:03,000 dealership, a booster now never runs the dealership, pick out a 3070 03:16:03,000 --> 03:16:06,630 car and listen, that kind of thing. Or you get a job you 3071 03:16:06,630 --> 03:16:09,630 don't have to show up to and we'll cut you a paycheck, that 3072 03:16:09,630 --> 03:16:13,350 kind of thing. So I'm just I'm just saying like there's a whole 3073 03:16:13,350 --> 03:16:19,680 system to it. And now that to show you that Dion was 3074 03:16:19,680 --> 03:16:23,610 effective, which I'm gonna skip over 38 and go straight to 39 3075 03:16:23,850 --> 03:16:29,220 for the sake of time, but all 38 was saying what Deion Sanders 3076 03:16:29,220 --> 03:16:35,610 said, I am a he said there are people coming to me saying he 3077 03:16:35,610 --> 03:16:38,700 felt like he should have been a preacher. But he's like, No, I 3078 03:16:38,700 --> 03:16:41,370 just go directly to the people. And that's the back said that's 3079 03:16:41,370 --> 03:16:43,530 the that's his personality. People are drawn to him. They 3080 03:16:43,530 --> 03:16:46,950 love Trump. You're saying we all love i don't know i haven't met 3081 03:16:46,950 --> 03:16:50,400 a person yet that didn't like Dr. I even myself, I hated Dr. 3082 03:16:50,400 --> 03:16:54,030 When he played for 40 Niners. Next year he called the Dallas 3083 03:16:54,060 --> 03:16:57,360 biggest dei fan in the world. He was saying like this is what 3084 03:16:57,360 --> 03:16:58,350 kind of guy he is. 3085 03:16:58,380 --> 03:17:00,930 But you know, I can't remember as a super charming nice guy. 3086 03:17:01,530 --> 03:17:05,130 Right with this huge million watt smile. He was 3087 03:17:06,480 --> 03:17:08,970 exactly very charming. Very charming, right? 3088 03:17:09,330 --> 03:17:13,740 So the show that he's it was effective at what he's doing. I 3089 03:17:13,740 --> 03:17:17,550 got an 18 second clip. Now next, just because you know why 3090 03:17:17,550 --> 03:17:20,940 sports, Nick Saban is like the king of college football right 3091 03:17:20,940 --> 03:17:24,720 now at Alabama, at the same Alabama that we spoke about 3092 03:17:24,720 --> 03:17:29,580 before. He was saying University. He was getting off 3093 03:17:29,610 --> 03:17:33,360 me Alabama, they had guys that wouldn't even start and going to 3094 03:17:33,360 --> 03:17:38,430 the NFL. This is how stat he was with talent. Dion came in and 3095 03:17:38,430 --> 03:17:42,000 started becoming effective. upset him out albacore you could 3096 03:17:42,000 --> 03:17:43,740 hear it in 38. We have 3097 03:17:43,740 --> 03:17:47,010 a rule right now that says you cannot use name image likeness 3098 03:17:47,010 --> 03:17:50,250 to entice a player to come to your school. He'll read about it 3099 03:17:50,250 --> 03:17:53,340 in the paper. I mean, Jackson State paid a guy a million 3100 03:17:53,340 --> 03:17:56,100 dollars last year that was a really good division one player 3101 03:17:56,130 --> 03:17:58,650 to come to school. It was in the paper and they bragged about it. 3102 03:17:59,580 --> 03:18:00,960 Nobody did anything about it. 3103 03:18:02,430 --> 03:18:07,050 And went Wow, okay. It's not supposed to be unmentioned. 3104 03:18:07,920 --> 03:18:13,200 You would think I mean, cuz I'm telling you coach Kade I love 3105 03:18:13,200 --> 03:18:17,160 Duke basketball. I love ACC basketball. But Coach K was 3106 03:18:17,160 --> 03:18:20,670 paying players not him. But the boosters. Dean's to me it was 3107 03:18:20,670 --> 03:18:25,110 paying players not him. But the boosters. All these teams pay 3108 03:18:25,110 --> 03:18:28,200 their players one way or another. But the fact that when 3109 03:18:28,200 --> 03:18:31,470 Dion started doing it, and then they changed the rule recently, 3110 03:18:31,830 --> 03:18:35,310 where these player can start using their kneel or name, image 3111 03:18:35,310 --> 03:18:38,700 and likeness, to monetize themselves, YouTube channels, 3112 03:18:38,700 --> 03:18:41,250 whatever else now is a new game. 3113 03:18:41,280 --> 03:18:44,880 Now when you say the boosters how does that mechanism work, I 3114 03:18:44,880 --> 03:18:47,820 understand what they are but where it tells me how the can 3115 03:18:47,820 --> 03:18:49,410 now it connects to the university where 3116 03:18:49,620 --> 03:18:52,410 the boosters they write checks to the university so the 3117 03:18:52,410 --> 03:18:56,520 universities can have added it's two ways it works. It's above 3118 03:18:56,520 --> 03:19:01,770 board and below. Well, three ways one, you can house 3119 03:19:01,770 --> 03:19:05,220 potential recruits like The Blind Side and route them to 3120 03:19:05,220 --> 03:19:07,860 your universe. That's one way let them borrow your car 3121 03:19:07,890 --> 03:19:08,730 your convertible 3122 03:19:09,270 --> 03:19:14,430 right to you can write a huge check, you know, in help pay for 3123 03:19:14,430 --> 03:19:18,600 these facilities. Wherever guy you're saying they got the top 3124 03:19:18,600 --> 03:19:26,010 of the line nutrition top of the line. training facilities. 3125 03:19:26,670 --> 03:19:29,910 weightless, right? When they get injured. They have these pools 3126 03:19:29,910 --> 03:19:34,110 they run in zero gravity pool that treadmills in their locker 3127 03:19:34,110 --> 03:19:34,890 room look like for 3128 03:19:35,100 --> 03:19:38,520 Alabama, to make the facility attractive for them to come to. 3129 03:19:38,790 --> 03:19:41,910 Right. And not only that, and here's the thing if you say to 3130 03:19:41,910 --> 03:19:48,240 me, my son and he turns out to be a five star athlete and you 3131 03:19:48,240 --> 03:19:53,970 say do you want him to go to Alabama or HBCU there's a real 3132 03:19:55,650 --> 03:20:00,210 there's a real conversation and thought process. I'm good It's a 3133 03:20:00,210 --> 03:20:05,100 third one, but I gotta lay it out the second one. Rehab, these 3134 03:20:05,100 --> 03:20:13,290 guys tear ACL MCL. All the time. Alabama's team doctor was the 3135 03:20:13,290 --> 03:20:16,830 team doctor for pro athletes as well. Everybody flew down to him 3136 03:20:16,830 --> 03:20:21,570 to get their ACL MCL is repaired right? Yeah, this this is how 3137 03:20:21,570 --> 03:20:25,800 serious I mean, like, like you will do a thoroughbred horse. 3138 03:20:26,100 --> 03:20:29,010 You're saying we gotta let him run? You know, we can't let him 3139 03:20:29,040 --> 03:20:29,370 we're 3140 03:20:30,510 --> 03:20:32,400 treating them like they're animals. Mo. 3141 03:20:33,090 --> 03:20:37,350 Exactly. Now, you see, now you see the legacy is still there. 3142 03:20:38,460 --> 03:20:43,110 But if you like I said, Now, if you get hurt at HBCU or small 3143 03:20:43,110 --> 03:20:48,210 school, you might go to you're saying the county hospital and 3144 03:20:48,210 --> 03:20:50,640 your career is over. You're saying that we've seen this all 3145 03:20:50,640 --> 03:20:52,980 the time. You saw that in Friday Night Lights you're saying with 3146 03:20:52,980 --> 03:20:56,010 the movie with movie Daniels? They're saying towards me career 3147 03:20:56,010 --> 03:20:58,890 over? I'm just saying and then the third one is that hurt all a 3148 03:20:58,890 --> 03:21:02,130 handshake kind of thing which I laid out. You're saying? The 3149 03:21:02,130 --> 03:21:05,220 under you're saying give you money under the board. Right. 3150 03:21:05,280 --> 03:21:10,590 And recently this the captisol off? Brett Farbe he was leaning 3151 03:21:10,590 --> 03:21:15,120 on politicians to Bill his daughter's volleyball team of $4 3152 03:21:15,150 --> 03:21:17,700 million of volleyball stadium. 3153 03:21:18,510 --> 03:21:20,910 Yeah, but he's Brett Farve so okay. 3154 03:21:21,450 --> 03:21:26,160 Right. He was able to do all this. And it was like no harm no 3155 03:21:26,160 --> 03:21:29,640 foul. So I'm just showing you when you start coming in and 3156 03:21:29,640 --> 03:21:32,550 being effective, like Dr. Was he was started getting top 3157 03:21:32,550 --> 03:21:37,470 recruits. It's kind of an I had to say there's no way to save 3158 03:21:37,470 --> 03:21:41,760 that. You got to get rid of him. And what I mean get rid of him 3159 03:21:41,760 --> 03:21:45,990 is a lot of people say to Dr. Sell out, did Dr. Sell out? I 3160 03:21:45,990 --> 03:21:49,770 say no Dion was bought off. Let's listen to clip 40 and then 3161 03:21:49,860 --> 03:21:51,420 explain to you what I mean by that 3162 03:21:51,540 --> 03:21:57,180 Deion Sanders wasn't really paying attention. And then like, 3163 03:21:57,600 --> 03:22:01,650 the social media blew up, people will no longer friends anymore. 3164 03:22:03,120 --> 03:22:08,700 Social media after Thanksgiving. That would have been I know 3165 03:22:08,700 --> 03:22:12,600 fried about politics. So Deion Sanders, named head coach for 3166 03:22:12,600 --> 03:22:16,950 the University of Colorado after coaching at HBCU Jackson State. 3167 03:22:17,040 --> 03:22:21,300 Some people have been critical and felt like it's just loyal. 3168 03:22:21,300 --> 03:22:24,300 But other people like don't count his money. That's right, 3169 03:22:24,330 --> 03:22:25,530 my man get ahead in 3170 03:22:25,530 --> 03:22:30,570 the world. And you know what? disloyal, he only revived a more 3171 03:22:30,570 --> 03:22:33,780 abundant program. They're brought all kinds of attention 3172 03:22:33,780 --> 03:22:37,710 to the SW AC the southwestern Athletic Conference, otherwise 3173 03:22:37,710 --> 03:22:42,390 called the SWAC. And the HBCUs. In general. Well, yes. Everybody 3174 03:22:42,390 --> 03:22:46,170 benefited from the glare of the spotlight that he was under. Not 3175 03:22:46,170 --> 03:22:50,100 only do he do a phenomenal job winning two consecutive swag 3176 03:22:50,100 --> 03:22:53,520 titles they play in the championship game. The bowl game 3177 03:22:53,520 --> 03:22:57,060 coming up, I think is December the 17th. He said he is going to 3178 03:22:57,060 --> 03:22:59,790 finish out the deal. Hey, look, he never said he was there to 3179 03:22:59,790 --> 03:23:03,840 stay for an eternity. The two issues one because the HBCUs 3180 03:23:03,840 --> 03:23:08,100 have been so overlooked since the NFL raided it of all of his 3181 03:23:08,130 --> 03:23:13,020 awesome talent decades ago, and he now has brought new attention 3182 03:23:13,020 --> 03:23:16,440 there. That's a good thing. They've all benefited Dion 3183 03:23:16,440 --> 03:23:19,470 speech when he was talking to his players, he made the point 3184 03:23:19,470 --> 03:23:23,070 that, hey, in the coaching profession, you are either shown 3185 03:23:23,070 --> 03:23:26,550 the door, or the few times that happens, you can walk out on 3186 03:23:26,550 --> 03:23:30,450 your own. So he's got other things he wants to accomplish, 3187 03:23:30,480 --> 03:23:31,980 and everybody's going to benefit. 3188 03:23:32,700 --> 03:23:34,770 Is this ESPN or TMZ? 3189 03:23:35,249 --> 03:23:41,009 This was CVS. This is good more than one of those morning shows? 3190 03:23:41,429 --> 03:23:46,709 Like Yeah. The main morning show or whatever I have over CBS. 3191 03:23:47,459 --> 03:23:50,969 Gayle, your show could ask Jim, that's Jim Brown speaking. I'm 3192 03:23:51,059 --> 03:23:53,849 not the Jim James groundskeeping. Not Jim Brown. 3193 03:23:54,449 --> 03:23:58,199 But yeah, so when he said I'm leaving and going to University 3194 03:23:58,199 --> 03:24:03,809 of Colorado, predominantly white institution, or white school, a 3195 03:24:03,809 --> 03:24:07,949 lot of people are upset with Dr. Sure. And rightfully so because, 3196 03:24:08,309 --> 03:24:11,669 in my opinion, you set the standard that I'm here to build 3197 03:24:11,669 --> 03:24:15,149 a highway, you want to stay in front, you know, and I'm here 3198 03:24:15,179 --> 03:24:19,529 and we got to be honest, now is where we get to get to be honest 3199 03:24:19,919 --> 03:24:24,449 about we all we all have been honest, but brutally honest. He 3200 03:24:24,449 --> 03:24:27,899 set the standard that he was going to be this change agent of 3201 03:24:27,899 --> 03:24:31,949 change to come in and use his celebrity to draw kids and money 3202 03:24:31,949 --> 03:24:35,579 to Jackson State. And you know, all of that. 3203 03:24:35,610 --> 03:24:38,940 And it was only two years or something it was there. Right. 3204 03:24:39,239 --> 03:24:42,299 Right. I think three years if I'm not mistaken. Oh, well, I 3205 03:24:42,299 --> 03:24:46,559 wouldn't know. Well, I'm not sure myself. It was three years. 3206 03:24:46,799 --> 03:24:52,949 But here's the thing, Jackson State let you be prom. If you go 3207 03:24:52,949 --> 03:24:57,689 to Alabama, you're going to be proud but within our parameters, 3208 03:24:57,959 --> 03:25:02,219 they gave him carte blanche Send a B and whoever say Do whatever 3209 03:25:02,219 --> 03:25:05,459 you want to run the program how you want it to. And a lot of 3210 03:25:05,459 --> 03:25:08,279 other schools didn't want it like Deion Sanders coached their 3211 03:25:08,279 --> 03:25:11,159 school because they were like he didn't have a college degree and 3212 03:25:11,159 --> 03:25:15,689 all it is. So the HBCU gave you your chance. And they you came 3213 03:25:15,689 --> 03:25:19,529 in with all this Messiah talk. So you can't be frustrated with 3214 03:25:19,529 --> 03:25:23,279 people, because they expect you to live up to your expectations. 3215 03:25:23,429 --> 03:25:27,119 Now, on the other hand, Jackson State didn't take care of Dr. 3216 03:25:27,149 --> 03:25:31,079 Order school. And Jackson State is down there. And you're saying 3217 03:25:31,079 --> 03:25:33,479 in Mississippi, where they had the Jackson, Mississippi where 3218 03:25:33,479 --> 03:25:37,589 they don't normally have clean water, he was saying like, he 3219 03:25:37,589 --> 03:25:40,289 had to cut the grass himself. They would like say they didn't 3220 03:25:40,289 --> 03:25:44,159 couldn't pay him. But this is what I can say I'm kind of torn 3221 03:25:44,159 --> 03:25:46,979 because on one hand, I can see it both ways. You set the 3222 03:25:46,979 --> 03:25:50,519 standard that you didn't live up to. But I understand who Deion 3223 03:25:50,519 --> 03:25:55,349 Sanders really is from following who I'm saying all my spending 3224 03:25:55,349 --> 03:25:58,349 most of my life, watching this and watching these business 3225 03:25:58,349 --> 03:26:01,979 moves. So you know, that's that's the weird part about it. 3226 03:26:01,979 --> 03:26:05,279 And it's like, we can never have nothing unless we start building 3227 03:26:05,279 --> 03:26:08,189 it ourselves. And people like, well, that's a far fetched 3228 03:26:08,189 --> 03:26:12,989 dream, not to me. Now, we got to have a little more storytime, I 3229 03:26:12,989 --> 03:26:17,759 went to three colleges, right. First I went to my parents went 3230 03:26:17,759 --> 03:26:20,939 to Appalachian State University. That's what I graduated from. 3231 03:26:20,969 --> 03:26:23,369 And the only reason they went there because they went back to 3232 03:26:23,369 --> 03:26:27,419 school in their late 20s, early 30s. And that was the only place 3233 03:26:27,419 --> 03:26:31,379 to have apartments on campus in the 80s actual apartments that 3234 03:26:31,379 --> 03:26:35,699 was near where they grew up it. So I grew up on a white campus, 3235 03:26:35,819 --> 03:26:39,329 you know, and they were even broken and proud of me, then he 3236 03:26:39,329 --> 03:26:42,569 was saying, because I was like, I went to school on campus. And 3237 03:26:42,569 --> 03:26:45,389 he was I remember being at an apple two computer and like, Oh, 3238 03:26:45,419 --> 03:26:47,699 you're saying, oh, black kid can work a computer, you know, 3239 03:26:47,699 --> 03:26:51,569 saying, and that kind of thing. I mean, like looking backwards, 3240 03:26:51,569 --> 03:26:54,119 you can kind of tell I mean, not saying a negative way. But they 3241 03:26:54,119 --> 03:26:56,579 show interest in me, you know, saying, of course, because I was 3242 03:26:56,729 --> 03:27:02,039 these black face in all white class. So my parents graduate 3243 03:27:02,039 --> 03:27:04,379 from there, both my brothers went there and graduated from 3244 03:27:04,379 --> 03:27:08,819 there. Here's your cause my turn. And I really didn't want 3245 03:27:08,819 --> 03:27:12,719 to go, I really didn't want to go at all. I wanted to go to 3246 03:27:12,719 --> 03:27:16,259 black school, right? But it was like torn, because it's like, do 3247 03:27:16,259 --> 03:27:18,479 you go where your parents graduate and your brother? 3248 03:27:18,479 --> 03:27:21,539 You're saying keep the family tradition? Or do you go what you 3249 03:27:21,539 --> 03:27:24,779 want to do. And I went there one year, and I will come to school 3250 03:27:25,079 --> 03:27:28,949 on Monday and leave on Thursday. That's how I have my classes set 3251 03:27:28,949 --> 03:27:33,959 up. And I will be back home Thursday night. Because it was 3252 03:27:33,959 --> 03:27:38,519 just, I was a fish out of water. He was saying, I would just it 3253 03:27:38,519 --> 03:27:44,039 just didn't work for me. So then I go in. I told them I'm not 3254 03:27:44,039 --> 03:27:47,339 going back to school. Like right before, right before I was 3255 03:27:47,339 --> 03:27:51,629 taught to go out comes the slipper. Right? It was a nice, 3256 03:27:51,839 --> 03:27:53,819 you're going to school somewhere. Like when she told 3257 03:27:53,819 --> 03:27:57,899 you that you saw then I go to UNC cu NorCal on central Central 3258 03:27:57,899 --> 03:28:01,739 University, the ones that beat Jackson State recently. So in 3259 03:28:01,739 --> 03:28:04,229 the championship game, and I go there for a year and you're 3260 03:28:04,229 --> 03:28:07,319 saying as a you go to school somewhere option, and then I end 3261 03:28:07,319 --> 03:28:12,569 up at Northland NC State University, you know, and I'll 3262 03:28:12,569 --> 03:28:15,659 just say it like this, I think every black kid and experience 3263 03:28:15,659 --> 03:28:19,739 that they'll be in that kind of nurturing environment and weird 3264 03:28:19,739 --> 03:28:22,709 part about it on campus nurturing, but the problem is 3265 03:28:22,709 --> 03:28:29,819 they build it in low low income real estate around it. So you 3266 03:28:29,819 --> 03:28:32,609 get this weird thing like you're on campus and you're doing your 3267 03:28:32,609 --> 03:28:35,969 thing. And if you go one block over you might get robbed. And 3268 03:28:35,969 --> 03:28:39,479 that's a reality and that's Deion Sanders got stuff got 3269 03:28:39,479 --> 03:28:42,449 robbed we're saying down at Jackson State. So I'll lay all 3270 03:28:42,449 --> 03:28:44,819 this out to say you're saying this is why this show was 3271 03:28:44,819 --> 03:28:48,149 important for me because I could kind of see it both ways. But 3272 03:28:48,629 --> 03:28:51,389 going back to App State, they had a football team and they 3273 03:28:51,389 --> 03:28:54,149 were kind of rinky dink when he first started out but they ended 3274 03:28:54,149 --> 03:28:57,119 up being one of the biggest schools in college football 3275 03:28:57,119 --> 03:28:59,909 Michigan University University of Michigan and I assure you if 3276 03:28:59,909 --> 03:29:03,179 his continual growth and building you could get to that 3277 03:29:03,179 --> 03:29:08,159 level you know saying like you not sit where you start off of 3278 03:29:08,159 --> 03:29:11,699 course everything's possible but a lot of people believe I'm 3279 03:29:11,699 --> 03:29:14,489 saying go for the Fast Book, you know that kind of thing you 3280 03:29:14,489 --> 03:29:18,479 know, and and you it's that town the Tim kind of thing and you're 3281 03:29:18,479 --> 03:29:22,709 going to hear in the next set of clips. So he made the wrong the 3282 03:29:22,709 --> 03:29:24,929 right decision. Would you want to say something I'll just I'm 3283 03:29:24,929 --> 03:29:27,869 doing a lot of talking because you know, it's part of this is 3284 03:29:27,869 --> 03:29:29,069 the person who shouted me Sure. 3285 03:29:29,100 --> 03:29:31,680 Well, all the shows are personal. Right? I was just 3286 03:29:31,680 --> 03:29:35,220 saying like, you certainly didn't choose the fast buck 3287 03:29:35,220 --> 03:29:36,930 doing a podcast was what I was thinking. 3288 03:29:37,710 --> 03:29:42,900 No, I mean, the same thing is exactly I mean, you talk about 3289 03:29:42,900 --> 03:29:45,990 this all the time like I could easily go and hold myself out 3290 03:29:45,990 --> 03:29:52,260 you're saying to either side left or right and oh you know 3291 03:29:52,260 --> 03:29:55,440 saying as long as I use their talking point I could do all 3292 03:29:55,440 --> 03:29:59,610 right you know saying but it's like no, I'm autonomy is huge 3293 03:29:59,610 --> 03:30:02,670 for me. Right, it was and I think that's a real problem that 3294 03:30:02,700 --> 03:30:08,070 Dion's gonna face in Colorado. And I honestly believe I'll save 3295 03:30:08,070 --> 03:30:11,670 that for when we get to this set of clips. But autonomy is huge 3296 03:30:11,670 --> 03:30:15,600 for me. And I think this is the best option and the same thing 3297 03:30:15,600 --> 03:30:20,220 with not taking the jab. Right autonomy is using me you're 3298 03:30:20,220 --> 03:30:24,270 saying like is, that's the only way you can be a man if you're 3299 03:30:24,270 --> 03:30:28,830 autonomous. I agree. All right, no Storytime with Moe, let's go 3300 03:30:28,830 --> 03:30:30,270 ahead and get back into 41 3301 03:30:30,540 --> 03:30:34,860 Why can't Deion Sanders just choose to be with who he wants 3302 03:30:34,860 --> 03:30:35,160 to be? 3303 03:30:35,370 --> 03:30:38,520 Oh, he can go take whatever job he wants. But when you come into 3304 03:30:38,520 --> 03:30:41,460 the first job and sell the idea that you are going to be the 3305 03:30:41,460 --> 03:30:44,760 savior of HBCUs and you are going to raise the playing field 3306 03:30:44,760 --> 03:30:48,000 not just for Jackson State but for everybody else and you're 3307 03:30:48,000 --> 03:30:51,420 gonna do it because God told you to do it he didn't said that. 3308 03:30:51,450 --> 03:30:54,780 You said that he explicitly said that God sent him to do this. Oh 3309 03:30:54,780 --> 03:30:57,840 no. Then when you leave Yeah, people are going to ask 3310 03:30:57,840 --> 03:31:00,300 questions about what exactly it was now I don't go into the 3311 03:31:00,300 --> 03:31:03,300 sellout place necessarily. But I do think he's the monorail 3312 03:31:03,300 --> 03:31:06,330 salesman from The Simpsons he went in he sold the big dream 3313 03:31:06,330 --> 03:31:08,280 now if you paid any attention you knew the dream he was 3314 03:31:08,280 --> 03:31:10,950 selling wasn't possibly it was not an achievable one that he 3315 03:31:10,950 --> 03:31:13,770 had but he sold it and he got people to believe it and then 3316 03:31:13,770 --> 03:31:14,130 each have to 3317 03:31:14,130 --> 03:31:16,860 do some left so as you know Shannon Sharpe price so she and 3318 03:31:16,860 --> 03:31:19,140 you heard his comments. I want to play them for our audience 3319 03:31:19,140 --> 03:31:22,860 because he Shannon Sharpe has a sort of a rising tide lifts all 3320 03:31:22,860 --> 03:31:25,770 boats. If he did it for Jackson State, then maybe that helped 3321 03:31:25,770 --> 03:31:28,830 the entire HBCU let's play this and I want your response to it. 3322 03:31:29,400 --> 03:31:34,050 Okay, that's interesting. Couple things that while it is probably 3323 03:31:34,050 --> 03:31:36,450 a good lesson that you know, if you're gonna say God sent me to 3324 03:31:36,450 --> 03:31:39,600 do something, you know, people are going to expect some big 3325 03:31:39,600 --> 03:31:42,360 things. That's not exactly how it works. But you know, people 3326 03:31:42,360 --> 03:31:45,480 will Oh, okay, well, if that's the case, and then the minute 3327 03:31:45,480 --> 03:31:47,700 you decide do something else, which God could have told him as 3328 03:31:47,700 --> 03:31:53,250 well then and then that doesn't compute. So that's always a it's 3329 03:31:53,250 --> 03:31:55,320 always a risk to do that. 3330 03:31:57,150 --> 03:32:03,150 And it taps into the psyche of waiting for Messiah. Yes, it is. 3331 03:32:03,420 --> 03:32:07,290 It's our rampid thought, two things. I want to dress it one 3332 03:32:07,290 --> 03:32:12,240 at one clip. One is the rampid thought and we're waiting on the 3333 03:32:12,240 --> 03:32:15,510 Messiah. You're saying who's the next MLK? Who's the next Malcolm 3334 03:32:15,510 --> 03:32:20,190 X? Who's bro you be the man in your house for your children? 3335 03:32:20,220 --> 03:32:23,010 Right? I'll do the same. It wasn't and we will have 3336 03:32:23,010 --> 03:32:26,610 continuous improvement. Not waiting for somebody to carry us 3337 03:32:26,610 --> 03:32:29,760 to the promised land like Moses, you know, and that's what Kanye 3338 03:32:29,760 --> 03:32:33,150 was kind of tapping into as well. With that, you know, 3339 03:32:33,150 --> 03:32:35,700 saying I'm here and I'm like Moses kind of thing. Excuse me. 3340 03:32:35,700 --> 03:32:39,090 Yeah, I got I got to stop doing it. But you're saying they were 3341 03:32:39,090 --> 03:32:42,000 saying because like Colin cashes out Muhammad Ali Cassius Clay. I 3342 03:32:42,000 --> 03:32:44,070 don't want to be disrespectful, but it's just a muscle memory 3343 03:32:44,070 --> 03:32:48,960 thing. But you know, and then the other thing is, is this was 3344 03:32:48,960 --> 03:32:52,980 his name. The other guy talking? I know his name. I can't think 3345 03:32:52,980 --> 03:32:56,520 of it on the in the clue. Yeah, I can't think it's Bomani. 3346 03:32:56,520 --> 03:33:00,240 Bomani Jones, I believe it is this downward thinking like, oh, 3347 03:33:00,240 --> 03:33:04,620 it's an impossible feat. Not I don't know. How, I mean, this is 3348 03:33:04,620 --> 03:33:08,610 a thing like, oh, when you say this is the kind of downward 3349 03:33:08,610 --> 03:33:11,820 thinking that we had to face is that oh, you're saying oh, you 3350 03:33:11,820 --> 03:33:16,020 know, that's, that's impossible. Nothing's impossible. You put 3351 03:33:16,020 --> 03:33:18,960 your wheel to it and belief in it. But that's the kind of thing 3352 03:33:18,960 --> 03:33:21,810 like he should have been sold out. That's what I'm hearing. He 3353 03:33:21,810 --> 03:33:26,010 should just should have went straight past go and collect his 3354 03:33:26,010 --> 03:33:29,940 $200. And it's the justification and I'm gonna tell you this, 3355 03:33:30,510 --> 03:33:34,530 this hit home with a lot of the sports casters, cuz he's like 3356 03:33:34,560 --> 03:33:36,390 what you were saying about the podcast? He's like, why don't 3357 03:33:36,390 --> 03:33:39,210 you start your own podcast? Why don't you go to YouTube and 3358 03:33:39,210 --> 03:33:41,760 start your own channel? Why you are here working for ESPN. 3359 03:33:44,100 --> 03:33:50,550 Sally's saying Deanna sell out by working for ESPN. Me saying 3360 03:33:50,550 --> 03:33:53,730 like, we all know the history of Disney. But it's like, whoa, 3361 03:33:53,730 --> 03:33:57,000 like you were saying? Yeah. Hello. It was weird. It was 3362 03:33:57,000 --> 03:34:01,410 weird. He was saying just weird. Did he strike out on his own, 3363 03:34:01,410 --> 03:34:03,060 but y'all will? Well, 3364 03:34:03,090 --> 03:34:05,400 I mean, this is mainstream media, you know, what do you 3365 03:34:05,400 --> 03:34:06,210 expect from him? 3366 03:34:09,300 --> 03:34:13,260 I was gonna say, that wouldn't be expectation. I was gonna say 3367 03:34:13,260 --> 03:34:17,190 to be at least fair. I mean, like y'all are working for big 3368 03:34:18,180 --> 03:34:23,910 organizations and companies. Sure. So, like I said, if 3369 03:34:24,720 --> 03:34:29,250 the media builds up, the media breaks down. The media 3370 03:34:29,700 --> 03:34:31,980 facilitates a comeback. That's the way it always goes. 3371 03:34:32,700 --> 03:34:37,590 And we start at 41 or 42. We 42 is up next. Okay, it's gonna get 3372 03:34:37,590 --> 03:34:40,560 in the 40. Sorry about that. Let's go and get the 42 D and D 3373 03:34:40,560 --> 03:34:43,650 is something that very few coaches are able to do. He 3374 03:34:43,650 --> 03:34:48,300 leveraged his relationships. Skill. No football team had more 3375 03:34:48,300 --> 03:34:52,350 uniform than Jackson State, except the University of Oregon, 3376 03:34:52,950 --> 03:34:56,670 Under Armour. Every single week. They got new helmets. They got 3377 03:34:56,670 --> 03:35:01,950 new unis. He did this with our Walmart He took 150,000 of his 3378 03:35:01,950 --> 03:35:04,920 salary and helped finish building the facilities he did. 3379 03:35:04,950 --> 03:35:07,710 He leveraged his relationship with American Airlines. He 3380 03:35:07,710 --> 03:35:12,510 brought us to HBCUs guilt by talking about HBCUs, especially 3381 03:35:12,510 --> 03:35:15,750 now, they're talking about their own television. That's because 3382 03:35:15,750 --> 03:35:21,990 of him. He gave you a blueprint. Now follow the blueprint. He's 3383 03:35:21,990 --> 03:35:24,300 saying basically, mission accomplished. But do you think 3384 03:35:24,360 --> 03:35:27,090 Well, I mean part of it, and Allah shattered the death. Part 3385 03:35:27,090 --> 03:35:29,160 of where I disagree with him is somebody that was singular to 3386 03:35:29,160 --> 03:35:31,260 Deion Sanders, like we do have to admit that he is the 3387 03:35:31,260 --> 03:35:33,990 charismatic individual, like, just because Dion could do it 3388 03:35:34,110 --> 03:35:36,390 doesn't mean that everybody else can do it. That's the first 3389 03:35:36,390 --> 03:35:38,610 part. The second thing they're gonna play in the celebration 3390 03:35:38,610 --> 03:35:41,520 bowl, I believe next week in Atlanta against the champions of 3391 03:35:41,520 --> 03:35:44,280 the MEAC. They played in that bowl game last year, South 3392 03:35:44,280 --> 03:35:47,160 Carolina State blew their doors off in that game. Do you know 3393 03:35:47,160 --> 03:35:49,350 the head coach of South Carolina State? Can you name a single 3394 03:35:49,350 --> 03:35:51,750 player, South Carolina State, I can't, it brought attention to 3395 03:35:51,750 --> 03:35:54,780 Dion, it brought attention to Jackson State, you weren't gonna 3396 03:35:54,780 --> 03:35:57,510 bring attention to all these other schools in the time period 3397 03:35:57,510 --> 03:35:59,430 that he was there. Like if he was really going to accomplish 3398 03:35:59,430 --> 03:36:02,490 that. That's a 10 year program. At least you're saying he had to 3399 03:36:02,490 --> 03:36:02,940 stay. 3400 03:36:03,600 --> 03:36:08,160 Alright, so that once again, that negative thinking one thing 3401 03:36:08,160 --> 03:36:13,980 that was the uniforms, a point I want to make on that is that I 3402 03:36:13,980 --> 03:36:18,960 only difference between D one and D three HBCU. And he's even 3403 03:36:18,960 --> 03:36:23,130 saying these different levels of football, is the cameras is the 3404 03:36:23,130 --> 03:36:24,630 uniform, you know, what's that like? 3405 03:36:24,960 --> 03:36:26,430 To show the show element? 3406 03:36:26,670 --> 03:36:29,100 Right? You can shoot it a certain way. I mean, because 3407 03:36:29,100 --> 03:36:34,140 like when HBCU you got like one stationary camera to fit your 3408 03:36:34,140 --> 03:36:37,290 line. And then you got maybe a couple on the sidelines. 3409 03:36:37,320 --> 03:36:41,970 100% is like Elvis performing in a circus tent. I mean, you need 3410 03:36:41,970 --> 03:36:45,360 you need the whole kit and caboodle to make it the 3411 03:36:45,390 --> 03:36:47,220 spectacle that football is. 3412 03:36:47,760 --> 03:36:52,290 Right. And a lot of that is the uniforms. And the cameras. You 3413 03:36:52,290 --> 03:36:56,460 know, we've seen this, you know, so that's one thing. And he did 3414 03:36:56,460 --> 03:37:01,410 laid out in the blueprint because he could have easily the 3415 03:37:01,410 --> 03:37:04,920 blueprint is bringing celebrity coaches, I don't care if it 3416 03:37:04,920 --> 03:37:08,730 could coach football a lick or not. You're saying I won't. 3417 03:37:08,970 --> 03:37:13,950 Jerome Bettis and all these legends walking up and down HBCU 3418 03:37:13,980 --> 03:37:19,500 HBCU sidelines as the draw. And then your staff be you're saying 3419 03:37:21,180 --> 03:37:25,500 we'll highly trained. But you're the draw. You're saying you you 3420 03:37:25,500 --> 03:37:27,960 are that's what Dr. Not to take away from his football 3421 03:37:27,960 --> 03:37:30,810 knowledge. What I'm saying you're the ambassador for your 3422 03:37:30,810 --> 03:37:33,600 school, you know, you're going to do in the press runs and 3423 03:37:33,600 --> 03:37:37,230 whatever like that. Now, one of the things I want to talk about 3424 03:37:37,230 --> 03:37:43,320 is one of his supporters was Walmart. Walmart, you dare to 3425 03:37:43,320 --> 03:37:50,730 push the vaccine? How heavy is it? Nobody's going to talk like 3426 03:37:50,760 --> 03:37:54,360 like this because they either gonna be pro prime or anti look, 3427 03:37:54,840 --> 03:37:57,540 I think probably a good thing. I think he should stay in longer 3428 03:37:57,540 --> 03:38:00,540 if his goal was to build that highway, but if you want to take 3429 03:38:00,540 --> 03:38:04,980 his talents elsewhere, you know, I'm all for it too. Because one 3430 03:38:04,980 --> 03:38:08,790 thing is his son played for him and his son's a quarterback and 3431 03:38:08,790 --> 03:38:13,260 if he wants his son to go to a pro B go to the pros. He got to 3432 03:38:13,260 --> 03:38:17,520 go play against you know, bigger not bigger school but schools to 3433 03:38:17,520 --> 03:38:23,130 get more attention right that's the thing. But Walmart they were 3434 03:38:23,130 --> 03:38:29,310 pushing the vaccine heavy at Jackson State. Dr. had blood 3435 03:38:29,310 --> 03:38:35,310 clots in his toes and lost to his toes when right after the 3436 03:38:35,310 --> 03:38:39,750 vaccine was started being pushed crap. Nobody in Elgin when a 3437 03:38:39,750 --> 03:38:44,430 fact check the two for you people saying he had a long 3438 03:38:44,430 --> 03:38:48,510 history of injuries data. I'm like, No, that whenever they 3439 03:38:48,510 --> 03:38:53,550 fact check something, that means something stinks. So I had to be 3440 03:38:53,580 --> 03:38:57,930 honest with you, like all money ain't good money. 3441 03:38:57,960 --> 03:39:00,240 Do you think that was a part of his decision to leave? 3442 03:39:01,050 --> 03:39:04,920 I don't know. But I want to say this. He should have factored in 3443 03:39:04,920 --> 03:39:08,190 and thinking about decision where he's going to Colorado how 3444 03:39:08,220 --> 03:39:13,290 attitude but we know how to plays in Michigan. Yeah, for 3445 03:39:13,290 --> 03:39:16,260 sure. We get some value prayer for Dr instead of prom, you 3446 03:39:16,260 --> 03:39:20,100 know, because I don't know if you factor that in or not. But 3447 03:39:20,160 --> 03:39:25,860 um, yeah, so I would just want to lay that out there. And just 3448 03:39:25,890 --> 03:39:29,490 one final point. The reason why I say I don't think he sold out 3449 03:39:29,490 --> 03:39:35,310 I think he was bought off. He's going to want to code this. No 3450 03:39:35,310 --> 03:39:37,950 pun intended. Why this place is there is Cotter University 3451 03:39:37,950 --> 03:39:41,160 Colorado, having a black coach for there is nothing new that 3452 03:39:41,160 --> 03:39:44,580 has to before two or three before him. So it's not that 3453 03:39:44,580 --> 03:39:50,460 spectacular in that case. What is is Nike has a long, lucrative 3454 03:39:50,460 --> 03:39:55,470 relationship with Colorado. I think this was the body on off. 3455 03:39:55,680 --> 03:40:00,480 So he doesn't become the change agent that he wanted to do. To 3456 03:40:00,480 --> 03:40:03,660 start saying, Oh, we can start going to HBCUs. Because what 3457 03:40:03,660 --> 03:40:05,850 people don't understand is in colleges where you meet your 3458 03:40:05,880 --> 03:40:09,360 agent, and colleges where you meet your lawyer, and for these 3459 03:40:09,450 --> 03:40:15,780 monies, dues or financial epicenters investor where he was 3460 03:40:15,780 --> 03:40:16,290 saying like, 3461 03:40:16,410 --> 03:40:19,260 it's a serious industry, I mean, that's obvious, 3462 03:40:19,709 --> 03:40:23,279 right? And colleges where you meet colleges where you meet 3463 03:40:23,279 --> 03:40:26,789 your wife. It wasn't that we got to factor it in there, too. When 3464 03:40:26,789 --> 03:40:29,999 they bring these black kids to these schools. That's higher 3465 03:40:29,999 --> 03:40:33,539 chance they're gonna meet a white girlfriend. Oh, why that's 3466 03:40:33,569 --> 03:40:38,159 all this plays into it. Shonda saying like, I think I think it 3467 03:40:38,159 --> 03:40:41,849 was a high level decision to say, you heard Nick Saban. Look, 3468 03:40:43,739 --> 03:40:47,429 he already to one player five star player from us. You want to 3469 03:40:47,429 --> 03:40:50,429 let this keep going? You know, do you want to go back to the 3470 03:40:50,429 --> 03:40:56,309 Bear Bryant age. And that's what that's that's real. That's real. 3471 03:40:56,339 --> 03:41:00,629 That's the reality. So anything else you want to add to it? I 3472 03:41:00,629 --> 03:41:02,489 know I said, I know a lot. But 3473 03:41:02,790 --> 03:41:05,790 I'm enjoying it. Because this is not my territory, obviously. 3474 03:41:06,300 --> 03:41:10,350 Right. But I like it. And I'm actually thinking I should pay 3475 03:41:10,350 --> 03:41:12,630 more attention to this. This might be fun, this football 3476 03:41:12,630 --> 03:41:12,930 thing 3477 03:41:13,410 --> 03:41:16,080 in all you have to do is watch, you don't gotta watch the games, 3478 03:41:16,080 --> 03:41:18,780 just watch the sports news. I mean, like the sports media, 3479 03:41:18,810 --> 03:41:22,290 because that's what they argue about all day, every day, you 3480 03:41:22,290 --> 03:41:26,370 know, saying these different different facets of the game, 3481 03:41:26,400 --> 03:41:31,680 you know, how they play out, you know, and in real life. So, got 3482 03:41:31,680 --> 03:41:35,040 the last clip 43 Let's go ahead and get into the backlash. 3483 03:41:35,130 --> 03:41:38,100 60 minutes, profile them just like a month or two ago and it 3484 03:41:38,100 --> 03:41:40,620 was on that program. He said, I believe that God called me 3485 03:41:40,620 --> 03:41:43,770 collect and I had to accept the charges. And then he said this, 3486 03:41:43,770 --> 03:41:44,280 let's play it. 3487 03:41:46,860 --> 03:41:50,100 That's a lot of folks sit back on Twitter friends and talk 3488 03:41:50,100 --> 03:41:54,300 about what they're gonna do and and I wanted to go do it. Do 3489 03:41:54,300 --> 03:42:00,570 what? Change lives, change the perspective of HBCU football, 3490 03:42:01,080 --> 03:42:04,830 make everyone step up to the plate and do what's right by 3491 03:42:04,830 --> 03:42:05,640 these kids. 3492 03:42:07,050 --> 03:42:11,130 didn t do that, at least by starting it. And now as Shannon 3493 03:42:11,130 --> 03:42:14,100 was saying, is it up to others to carry it forward? I mean, 3494 03:42:14,100 --> 03:42:16,890 if you go out and other Deion Sanders, right like that's the 3495 03:42:16,890 --> 03:42:19,110 thing of this is that if he was going if you're talking about 3496 03:42:19,110 --> 03:42:21,660 establishing something long term, right, something that is 3497 03:42:21,720 --> 03:42:25,740 sustainable the idea he got started now you go do it. I 3498 03:42:25,740 --> 03:42:26,280 don't you're 3499 03:42:26,280 --> 03:42:29,970 making his blueprint argument because there are others who are 3500 03:42:30,120 --> 03:42:33,690 in the NFL or former NFL players who who are Catholic, 3501 03:42:33,720 --> 03:42:35,580 charismatic do and who could step in 3502 03:42:36,720 --> 03:42:40,050 the last 35 years telling us ain't but one Deion Sanders, 3503 03:42:40,320 --> 03:42:42,750 always telling us go find somebody else to do what Deion 3504 03:42:42,750 --> 03:42:45,180 Sanders does. You can't have this both ways. I don't judge 3505 03:42:45,180 --> 03:42:47,460 him for taking the job in Colorado, he probably increased 3506 03:42:47,460 --> 03:42:50,880 his salary by something like 15 times, right? I totally get that 3507 03:42:50,880 --> 03:42:54,480 it all makes sense. But what he did was something that college 3508 03:42:54,480 --> 03:42:57,390 coaches do all the time, which is you have to sell people for 3509 03:42:57,390 --> 03:43:00,150 your 10 year plans when your plan is always one year at a 3510 03:43:00,150 --> 03:43:02,340 time. That's the only way that you could really pull that off. 3511 03:43:02,430 --> 03:43:05,820 So we came in and he sold a long term vision for what was going 3512 03:43:05,820 --> 03:43:08,400 on at Jackson State. But his goals and ambitions were always 3513 03:43:08,400 --> 03:43:11,520 to be a Power Five head coach. My take has always been he went 3514 03:43:11,520 --> 03:43:14,370 to Jackson State primarily because he wanted to be a head 3515 03:43:14,370 --> 03:43:17,430 coach but didn't want to ever be anybody's assistant coach. So we 3516 03:43:17,430 --> 03:43:19,860 had to find somebody that would give him a job and make him a 3517 03:43:19,860 --> 03:43:22,440 head coach so we could have that on his resume and then he could 3518 03:43:22,440 --> 03:43:24,570 take that to try to get the job that he actually wanted 3519 03:43:26,100 --> 03:43:31,710 hmm question amongst your amongst your football watching 3520 03:43:31,710 --> 03:43:35,460 buddies. Is there a descent about him that people different 3521 03:43:35,460 --> 03:43:38,370 differing opinions is 5050 3522 03:43:39,060 --> 03:43:42,600 I mean, that's that's that's a you know, saying this straw poll 3523 03:43:42,600 --> 03:43:47,070 kind of thing. Go get the bat and one one half is go get the 3524 03:43:47,070 --> 03:43:50,430 bag and it's like other half is like Do not let us down. And 3525 03:43:50,430 --> 03:43:54,180 that's why I'm sitting in the middle I can understand with his 3526 03:43:54,180 --> 03:43:57,990 language and he used and you get the misconception that he was 3527 03:43:57,990 --> 03:44:00,990 gonna be a Messiah because that's what he sold. But on the 3528 03:44:00,990 --> 03:44:06,360 other hand everybody wants to be the best in their profession. 3529 03:44:06,390 --> 03:44:07,200 You're saying? 3530 03:44:07,680 --> 03:44:11,910 I like what the what that one commentator said it's like you 3531 03:44:11,910 --> 03:44:14,880 sell your five or 10 year plan but you've always got a one year 3532 03:44:14,880 --> 03:44:17,250 plan for yourself and that's true because if you suck then 3533 03:44:17,250 --> 03:44:18,330 you're out after a year. 3534 03:44:19,170 --> 03:44:22,440 Right and that's the thing about college football is especially 3535 03:44:22,890 --> 03:44:26,220 they assign you to a four year deal. He was saying but they 3536 03:44:26,220 --> 03:44:29,820 only gave you going in a year or two if you lose bad enough and 3537 03:44:30,720 --> 03:44:33,660 I'm glad you said that could remind me of something Colorado 3538 03:44:33,660 --> 03:44:36,240 don't even know how to go pay Dion they came and said we don't 3539 03:44:36,810 --> 03:44:43,800 have the money just yet. What? Yes, look it up. We don't know 3540 03:44:43,800 --> 03:44:47,550 how we gonna pay him. No, I said this is a cost. You have Nike 3541 03:44:47,550 --> 03:44:54,450 backing you want to lose that stat. It's the established 3542 03:44:54,450 --> 03:44:57,360 route. It's like natural resources. Like you're talking 3543 03:44:57,360 --> 03:44:59,970 about pipelines, you're saying that's the natural use that line 3544 03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:04,140 Language in these college sports pipelines. And yeah, you don't 3545 03:45:04,140 --> 03:45:06,840 want to upset the current pipeline with a competitor. 3546 03:45:06,870 --> 03:45:09,660 You're like, that's what the Middle East war you always talk 3547 03:45:09,660 --> 03:45:13,530 about was about the pipelines, right? This is the same thing. 3548 03:45:13,740 --> 03:45:17,340 They don't Nike don't want to have to deal with HBCUs. And 3549 03:45:17,490 --> 03:45:20,130 they they're happy. We're dealing with Alabama and all 3550 03:45:20,130 --> 03:45:23,970 established schools. So they'll say, Okay, what's the number 5 3551 03:45:23,970 --> 03:45:27,090 million? Oh, yeah, he's not gonna come here and play that 3552 03:45:27,090 --> 03:45:30,030 out of that. You're saying, oh, quarterback, whatever. He was 3553 03:45:30,030 --> 03:45:32,100 saying he can he can run it. However he wants to run it. 3554 03:45:32,130 --> 03:45:36,210 Yeah. 5.0 million. Colorado. admits we don't have the money 3555 03:45:36,210 --> 03:45:39,810 yet. Hello, Nike. Come help. 3556 03:45:40,500 --> 03:45:42,870 Exactly. Is that in fact, that's 3557 03:45:42,870 --> 03:45:46,590 an open call right there. That's basically Hey, Nike. I don't 3558 03:45:46,590 --> 03:45:49,380 know, man. Adidas, you guys interested? I hear you got that 3559 03:45:49,380 --> 03:45:51,570 yay, cat. And you know, and it sounds like it wouldn't just 3560 03:45:51,570 --> 03:45:54,090 have to be Nike, anybody can come in and do it now. 3561 03:45:54,480 --> 03:45:58,080 Right? When which, which I have to look back at my people and 3562 03:45:58,080 --> 03:46:01,890 say y'all dropped the ball. Deion Sanders supposed to be 3563 03:46:01,890 --> 03:46:05,430 coaching for Howard University, one of the preeminent HBCUs 3564 03:46:05,430 --> 03:46:09,810 right now, instead of Jay Z being a point 1% owner, right? 3565 03:46:09,840 --> 03:46:12,240 You could be a champion. Now I'm not spending nobody else's 3566 03:46:12,240 --> 03:46:14,610 money. You're saying that don't take me wrong. But if you're 3567 03:46:14,610 --> 03:46:18,840 talking about solutions, y'all should go in and build the Shawn 3568 03:46:18,840 --> 03:46:24,750 Carter athletic facility. You're saying Oh, Howard, and Sean Sean 3569 03:46:24,750 --> 03:46:28,710 Diddy Combs. You're saying athletic department no down and 3570 03:46:28,710 --> 03:46:29,220 wherever 3571 03:46:29,250 --> 03:46:32,610 Beyonce basketball court has all the cool stuff we can do. 3572 03:46:33,210 --> 03:46:39,960 Exactly. Because guess what that would tip the scale. But they 3573 03:46:39,960 --> 03:46:44,100 know what's up, and they know, they can't upset the applecart. 3574 03:46:44,100 --> 03:46:46,770 Like that's part of being the Boulais you can't bring about 3575 03:46:46,770 --> 03:46:50,040 real change, you know, saying you had to bring about you know, 3576 03:46:50,040 --> 03:46:55,410 acceptable change. And that's that's all I gotta say about but 3577 03:46:55,410 --> 03:46:58,170 it's just like it was a fascinating and to think the 3578 03:46:58,170 --> 03:47:01,830 Jerry Jones and the Deion Sanders store was going parallel 3579 03:47:01,830 --> 03:47:01,890 at 3580 03:47:01,890 --> 03:47:06,240 the same time that at the same time saying and say well, you 3581 03:47:06,240 --> 03:47:08,940 have confirmed all my belief about professional sports and 3582 03:47:08,940 --> 03:47:14,550 that's for sure. And given me more insight into into how it 3583 03:47:14,550 --> 03:47:17,970 works in America I'm sure it's the same and all in all sports 3584 03:47:17,970 --> 03:47:21,030 to a degree but man we are unique, aren't we? We're unique 3585 03:47:21,030 --> 03:47:24,480 how we abuse race for every thing 3586 03:47:25,770 --> 03:47:28,590 is the greatest mechanism for a microphone. 3587 03:47:29,760 --> 03:47:33,270 Well, for people who made it to the end here of this episode of 3588 03:47:33,270 --> 03:47:36,030 MO Fox with Adam curry, your mind is clear. You're not 3589 03:47:36,030 --> 03:47:41,910 controlled. You've got to you've got some some shielding now, as 3590 03:47:41,910 --> 03:47:44,310 usual, and we hope to bring a lot more of that in the coming 3591 03:47:44,310 --> 03:47:47,730 year and 2023 and more I really appreciate what you do every 3592 03:47:47,730 --> 03:47:51,360 single time on on this podcast. I really love doing it with you 3593 03:47:51,360 --> 03:47:51,720 brother. 3594 03:47:52,139 --> 03:47:55,289 And I appreciate every every second we record together Adam 3595 03:47:56,009 --> 03:47:59,789 because it was saying it's a it's a wonderful time. But as I 3596 03:47:59,789 --> 03:48:04,649 always say pay attention to everything and the truth will 3597 03:48:04,649 --> 03:48:05,459 reveal itself 3598 03:48:05,579 --> 03:48:11,849 and we will see everybody back here next year. Right here on mo 3599 03:48:11,849 --> 03:48:16,049 facts with Adam curry episode 89 coming up in January make sure 3600 03:48:16,259 --> 03:48:21,449 you stay tuned to the socials when we announce it. Moment have 3601 03:48:21,449 --> 03:48:24,539 a great and very happy new year we'll talk to you in 2023 3602 03:48:24,539 --> 03:48:24,899 Brother 3603 03:48:25,590 --> 03:48:26,490 All right Sandy, you Adam. 3604 03:48:27,360 --> 03:48:30,810 Everybody else see you soon I'm Mo facts with Adam curry. 3605 03:49:13,890 --> 03:49:13,950 You