1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,750 John C Dvorak: Ah, incompatible hardware. Adam curry, 2 00:00:03,870 --> 00:00:05,100 Unknown: Jhansi Dvorak, 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,160 Adam Curry: Sunday, May 21 2023. This Year Award winning 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,580 accumulation media assassination episode 1557. 5 00:00:11,610 --> 00:00:13,500 Unknown: This is no agenda, 6 00:00:14,370 --> 00:00:17,430 Adam Curry: casing a charm offensive. broadcasting live 7 00:00:17,430 --> 00:00:19,590 from the heart of the Texas hill country here in the region 8 00:00:19,590 --> 00:00:21,690 number six in the morning, everybody. 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,270 John C Dvorak: I'm Adam curry and from Northern Silicon 10 00:00:24,270 --> 00:00:28,650 Valley, where we're all cheering Karen a Fuji who's one eight in 11 00:00:28,650 --> 00:00:31,620 a row in the main tournament. I'm John Seymour. It 12 00:00:35,250 --> 00:00:37,920 Adam Curry: never ceases to amaze me. We're in the middle of 13 00:00:37,980 --> 00:00:40,650 on the brink of a nuclear war. We have all kinds of horrible 14 00:00:40,650 --> 00:00:44,820 things happening climate change, but we still have sumo wrestling 15 00:00:44,820 --> 00:00:45,690 to fall back on. 16 00:00:47,820 --> 00:00:49,920 John C Dvorak: And the big Yokozuna is back 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,380 Adam Curry: are you all jacked? How long has it been going on 18 00:00:52,380 --> 00:00:57,630 the the the tour the competition? Eight days, and 19 00:00:57,630 --> 00:00:59,070 you've been watching every single day? 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,520 John C Dvorak: I missed the first day. Okay, 21 00:01:02,730 --> 00:01:06,060 Adam Curry: and who are we supposed to vote for your vote? 22 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:07,590 I have a route. 23 00:01:07,710 --> 00:01:08,670 Unknown: I mean, Rudy the road 24 00:01:08,670 --> 00:01:11,880 John C Dvorak: for deleting goalscorer. 25 00:01:12,810 --> 00:01:13,470 Adam Curry: Okay 26 00:01:14,670 --> 00:01:17,400 John C Dvorak: terreno Fuji he's the Yokozuna is the big guys a 27 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:18,960 big giant Mongolian 28 00:01:20,070 --> 00:01:22,170 Adam Curry: on all these ointment. Don't you have to be 29 00:01:22,170 --> 00:01:22,920 Japanese by 30 00:01:23,039 --> 00:01:26,999 John C Dvorak: no no. The big guy the big boys of the last say 31 00:01:26,999 --> 00:01:32,729 couple of decades have been Samoan American Hawaiian. But 32 00:01:32,729 --> 00:01:38,549 these big Mongolians are really well and this guy is the top guy 33 00:01:38,609 --> 00:01:43,289 and he's a Mongolian and Okay, so Ben wonder pounds 200 That 34 00:01:43,289 --> 00:01:46,079 doesn't seem like that's 400 400 35 00:01:47,430 --> 00:01:50,340 Adam Curry: we know now in New York, they're passing a bill you 36 00:01:50,340 --> 00:01:54,540 can't discriminate against fat people. Which I thought was 37 00:01:54,540 --> 00:01:55,980 already Kenji already. 38 00:01:56,339 --> 00:01:57,569 John C Dvorak: It was already a rule. 39 00:01:57,899 --> 00:02:00,029 Adam Curry: I think it's just virtue signaling New York would 40 00:02:00,029 --> 00:02:01,469 expect Oh, they're just 41 00:02:01,470 --> 00:02:02,520 John C Dvorak: virtuous. Yes. 42 00:02:03,179 --> 00:02:06,779 Adam Curry: We got a we got let me kick it off with the super 43 00:02:06,779 --> 00:02:11,669 cut little mini super cut from from clip collector Steve Jones. 44 00:02:13,349 --> 00:02:16,469 I missed it. I didn't even realize this was going on. But 45 00:02:16,469 --> 00:02:21,329 we know that a lot is happening. g7 is the Lensky touring around. 46 00:02:21,509 --> 00:02:22,679 Not just a tour though. 47 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,430 Unknown: Tonight charm offense. Ukraine's president makes a so 48 00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:33,330 stopping visit to the g7 summit in Japan. hello to Mr. Lynch 49 00:02:33,330 --> 00:02:37,140 keep pushing for more war aid and rallying allies to stay the 50 00:02:37,140 --> 00:02:39,060 course against Russia's invasion. 51 00:02:39,660 --> 00:02:42,330 For ultimate Zelensky knows there's a growing debate across 52 00:02:42,330 --> 00:02:46,140 Europe about how long Ukraine's war effort can be supported. For 53 00:02:46,140 --> 00:02:49,920 now. He's hoping that Sharma fences pressure on his Western 54 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:52,500 allies to turn solidarity into action 55 00:02:52,530 --> 00:02:55,680 as president Solinsky he's been on another charm offensive over 56 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,350 the last couple of days. What has been Germany the Vatican 57 00:02:58,470 --> 00:03:02,610 France and now the UK what he needs what he wants 58 00:03:03,060 --> 00:03:05,130 unsurprisingly is more weapons and it 59 00:03:05,130 --> 00:03:07,770 seems like Britain's gonna get into this but he's also a much 60 00:03:07,770 --> 00:03:11,670 needed charm offensive so there is a lot a lot of backroom 61 00:03:11,670 --> 00:03:14,670 bargaining and charm offensive that needs to be done and he'll 62 00:03:14,670 --> 00:03:18,660 be hoping to go home with a lot in his back pocket F 16 fighter 63 00:03:18,660 --> 00:03:24,030 jets from the Netherlands 18 million pounds apiece wants the 64 00:03:24,030 --> 00:03:27,720 full arsenal the full money so look, he's on charm offensive 65 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:28,830 and I think Eddie you probably get 66 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,620 his trip to Japan. bruited about reported online but now he's 67 00:03:34,620 --> 00:03:35,640 actually there. I got 68 00:03:36,030 --> 00:03:39,270 he is he arrived today and this comes right in the middle of an 69 00:03:39,270 --> 00:03:41,010 extended charm offensive for 70 00:03:41,010 --> 00:03:43,800 Adam Curry: I'm telling you, man, this is a worldwide 71 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,540 phenomenon. The charm, the charm offensive. It's every station 72 00:03:48,570 --> 00:03:49,500 all around the world. 73 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,570 John C Dvorak: The smells of collusion is to get your talking 74 00:03:54,570 --> 00:03:58,080 points from smells like collusion to me. Love we're 75 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,860 gonna talk g7 I had the g7 report from I believe this is 76 00:04:01,860 --> 00:04:02,580 NPR. 77 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,740 Adam Curry: All right. Well, there's nothing like little NPR 78 00:04:04,740 --> 00:04:05,220 in the morning 79 00:04:05,250 --> 00:04:07,590 Unknown: and Pure White House correspondent Scott Tetro joins 80 00:04:07,590 --> 00:04:09,780 us from Hiroshima. Scott, thanks for being with us. 81 00:04:10,649 --> 00:04:12,059 John C Dvorak: Was it really stopped there? 82 00:04:12,089 --> 00:04:13,319 Adam Curry: Do we need to clip that? 83 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,770 John C Dvorak: I did, because I wanted to mention this thing. 84 00:04:16,980 --> 00:04:22,890 Now. Why are Hiroshima instead of Hiroshima? Well, I don't care 85 00:04:23,070 --> 00:04:27,120 about the pronunciation. I'm caring about the point that they 86 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:33,390 dropped an atom bomb on that town. Yeah. And it wasn't like a 87 00:04:35,070 --> 00:04:38,850 an a nuclear power plant that melted down or anything. It was 88 00:04:38,850 --> 00:04:44,310 a bomb that released all of his fissionable material across the 89 00:04:44,310 --> 00:04:50,430 whole area, but yet, just really was in recent memory. They're 90 00:04:50,430 --> 00:04:55,500 having meetings there. So how dangerous nuclear power 91 00:04:56,610 --> 00:04:59,220 Adam Curry: I don't know. And also I think Nagasaki was booked 92 00:04:59,220 --> 00:05:01,350 so they had to How to do it to Hiroshima. 93 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,120 John C Dvorak: So the point is is that why is why is the left 94 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,720 side still freakishly weird about nuclear power when you're 95 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,560 having meetings? I think that's a very a store and Cairo place 96 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,510 was decimated but not desperate. It was blowed up by a nuclear 97 00:05:18,510 --> 00:05:20,460 bombs flattened, flattened. 98 00:05:21,270 --> 00:05:24,270 That's That's why I stopped Texas. Let's go on. 99 00:05:24,900 --> 00:05:27,840 Adam Curry: That's real. That's a very good point. Because you 100 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:32,850 know, oh, we still can't go to Chernobyl. Oh, no. There are 101 00:05:32,850 --> 00:05:36,780 there are apparently there is an expiration date on on nuclear 102 00:05:36,780 --> 00:05:39,060 fallout and radiation 103 00:05:41,370 --> 00:05:43,770 John C Dvorak: very expiration date is coming first Chernobyl 104 00:05:44,100 --> 00:05:48,750 Unknown: loading trip to Japan. bruited about reported online 105 00:05:48,780 --> 00:05:51,090 but now he's actually there I got he 106 00:05:51,090 --> 00:05:52,290 is he arrived today? 107 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,260 Adam Curry: What kind of intro is this guy give no I guess it's 108 00:05:55,260 --> 00:05:58,710 like he's there. He's actually there. I gather disinterested in 109 00:05:58,710 --> 00:06:00,900 his job. Listen to this 110 00:06:00,930 --> 00:06:02,310 Unknown: and but now he's actually 111 00:06:02,310 --> 00:06:04,470 John C Dvorak: there. This guy has a style all his own. Yeah, 112 00:06:04,470 --> 00:06:04,620 it's 113 00:06:04,620 --> 00:06:07,350 Unknown: a load of Merrill Lynch case trip to Japan. bruited 114 00:06:07,350 --> 00:06:10,530 about reported online at about oh, he's actually there. I 115 00:06:10,530 --> 00:06:14,190 Adam Curry: got what is bruited about Brutus brooded? 116 00:06:14,910 --> 00:06:16,800 John C Dvorak: I guess people were brooding over it. I have no 117 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:17,250 idea how 118 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:18,000 Adam Curry: strange 119 00:06:18,090 --> 00:06:20,880 Unknown: he is. He arrived today. And this comes right in 120 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,540 the middle of an extended charm offensive from Yeah, oh, just 121 00:06:24,540 --> 00:06:27,150 coming ahead. What we expect will be a major military 122 00:06:27,150 --> 00:06:30,450 offensive from Ukraine. Solinsky, remember, had not left 123 00:06:30,450 --> 00:06:33,210 the country much for obvious reasons for much of the first 124 00:06:33,210 --> 00:06:36,330 year of the war. Then he had that dramatic trip to Washington 125 00:06:36,330 --> 00:06:39,720 at the end of last year. And more recently, Zelinsky has been 126 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,960 visiting heads of government in several countries to pressure 127 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,890 them to keep supporting Ukraine as military costs keep going up. 128 00:06:46,890 --> 00:06:50,250 And as the war keeps dragging on the trip to the g7 comes 129 00:06:50,250 --> 00:06:53,400 immediately after Zelinsky made a similar case to the Arab 130 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,270 League in Saudi Arabia the other day. We do not know much about 131 00:06:57,270 --> 00:07:00,090 his exact agenda here in Hiroshima, though the White 132 00:07:00,090 --> 00:07:03,510 House is indicating he will almost certainly have a one on 133 00:07:03,510 --> 00:07:05,520 one meeting with President Biden on Sunday. 134 00:07:06,180 --> 00:07:09,390 And I gather there's a major welcoming gift in the offing. 135 00:07:09,390 --> 00:07:13,800 President Biden now indicates that he would support Ukraine 136 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,100 acquiring F 16 fighter jets from Western countries. That's a 137 00:07:17,100 --> 00:07:17,970 change, isn't it? 138 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,210 It's a much larger gift than they had in the gift bags for 139 00:07:21,210 --> 00:07:22,350 the reporters covering. 140 00:07:24,450 --> 00:07:28,050 Adam Curry: Wow, I bet you know what, I'll pay you to actually 141 00:07:28,050 --> 00:07:29,070 get gift bags. 142 00:07:29,430 --> 00:07:32,190 John C Dvorak: Well, she that it was who I stopped a clip there. 143 00:07:32,220 --> 00:07:34,740 Adam Curry: This is this is a dynamite little thing. 144 00:07:35,340 --> 00:07:39,420 John C Dvorak: Now the question in my mind is is this gift bags 145 00:07:39,420 --> 00:07:43,530 are very commonplace in Hollywood at the US Hollywood 146 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,110 and entertainment reporting. 147 00:07:47,070 --> 00:07:49,260 Adam Curry: Entertainment reporting being the key. 148 00:07:50,790 --> 00:07:54,090 John C Dvorak: Exactly. And so I'm thinking is this guy either 149 00:07:54,450 --> 00:07:57,360 Are they are they are giving away gift bags, because they 150 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,050 don't make it very clear that they're not. And they joke about 151 00:08:01,050 --> 00:08:05,010 it. The two of them laugh and yucky. Or is it just that this 152 00:08:05,010 --> 00:08:09,990 guy is like everybody else, I guess on TV and entertainment 153 00:08:09,990 --> 00:08:15,150 reporter forced to do real news coverage, which is kind of my 154 00:08:15,150 --> 00:08:18,090 guess, but I couldn't be wrong. Maybe they did get a gift bag. 155 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,070 Adam Curry: I gotta give it to you right off the bat. It's 156 00:08:20,070 --> 00:08:25,380 early, but still, that we've never heard the gift bags in 157 00:08:25,380 --> 00:08:30,420 reporting. And this is NPR. You can't horse around on NPR. Not 158 00:08:30,420 --> 00:08:35,010 when it's when the world is on fire. You can't do that. 159 00:08:35,460 --> 00:08:37,920 John C Dvorak: I find it peculiar. I like I think we have 160 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,210 one more or less. Yes, we do. 161 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,210 Unknown: But on a serious note, this is a huge escalation and 162 00:08:42,210 --> 00:08:45,240 how the US areas are arming Ukraine, Ukraine had been 163 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,600 begging for these jets for more than a year. I didn't resist it. 164 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,970 He was worried that this could be something that would lead 165 00:08:50,970 --> 00:08:54,420 Russia to broaden the war and perhaps retaliate against other 166 00:08:54,420 --> 00:08:58,890 countries. But now, this week, Biden has told other g7 leaders 167 00:08:58,890 --> 00:09:02,700 the US will support efforts to train Ukrainian pilots on f 16 168 00:09:02,700 --> 00:09:05,700 fighter jets, and begin conversations about how to get f 169 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:09,240 16 from other countries to Ukraine. And at a briefing 170 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,660 today, National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said the US has 171 00:09:12,660 --> 00:09:16,440 adjusted its position based on how Russia has waged its war and 172 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,130 how Ukraine has responded. He also told us that as the US has 173 00:09:20,130 --> 00:09:23,700 increased the magnitude of the weapons it's providing one key 174 00:09:23,700 --> 00:09:27,000 thing has been getting promises from Ukraine that it will not 175 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,630 use them to attack inside Russia. And he indicated that 176 00:09:30,630 --> 00:09:33,240 that promise would be key when it comes to these f6 teams 177 00:09:33,390 --> 00:09:35,550 Adam Curry: will kind of bullcrap promises that what's 178 00:09:35,550 --> 00:09:40,740 the point of having if you can't fly over Moscow? This 179 00:09:42,060 --> 00:09:44,880 John C Dvorak: this is not showing any signs of letting up. 180 00:09:44,910 --> 00:09:48,090 Adam Curry: No, you're correct. It doesn't. Well, but there's a 181 00:09:48,090 --> 00:09:52,440 couple of things all happens in the same few days. Including 182 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:53,760 this little report 183 00:09:53,790 --> 00:09:56,730 Unknown: and accounting error at the Pentagon overvalued US aid 184 00:09:56,730 --> 00:10:00,330 sent the Ukraine by $3 billion. Reuters cited today Defense 185 00:10:00,330 --> 00:10:03,690 officials who said weapons taken from the US military stock had 186 00:10:03,690 --> 00:10:06,300 been assigned a much higher value than they should have 187 00:10:06,300 --> 00:10:09,930 been. The officials also say there are inconsistencies in how 188 00:10:09,930 --> 00:10:13,110 the equipment sent to Ukraine has been valued. The error could 189 00:10:13,110 --> 00:10:16,410 result in the US sending more weapons to help against Russia. 190 00:10:16,770 --> 00:10:20,670 Adam Curry: So we just magically made we magically made 3 billion 191 00:10:20,850 --> 00:10:22,920 appear thanks to an accounting error. 192 00:10:23,790 --> 00:10:25,680 John C Dvorak: So you can send them more Yes, we 193 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:27,510 Adam Curry: can send them 3 billion more like that we 194 00:10:27,510 --> 00:10:29,250 John C Dvorak: were sending and I don't I thought we were 195 00:10:29,250 --> 00:10:32,010 sending them weapons they needed. I didn't think we were 196 00:10:32,010 --> 00:10:38,190 sending them out, like value that they need. And others what 197 00:10:38,190 --> 00:10:41,250 why are they counting the nickels and dimes here? Because 198 00:10:41,250 --> 00:10:43,770 if you want a bullet, you want a bullet whether it costs a nickel 199 00:10:43,770 --> 00:10:44,850 dime or $1. 200 00:10:45,030 --> 00:10:47,760 Adam Curry: Well, it's because of the because of the amount of 201 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,880 money that has been appropriated by Congress. So they needed a 202 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,740 little more apparently, for the training that we know from our, 203 00:10:56,310 --> 00:11:01,020 from our insiders in the currently active military, that 204 00:11:01,050 --> 00:11:04,140 f6 teams are fine, but you've got to train the pilots, you 205 00:11:04,140 --> 00:11:06,690 need to have ongoing maintenance, you need to have 206 00:11:06,690 --> 00:11:10,230 parts the maintenance you have to you can't rewrite all the 207 00:11:10,230 --> 00:11:13,620 manuals in Ukrainian so you need Americans there boots on the 208 00:11:13,620 --> 00:11:15,570 ground, which is what you've been saying what would happen, 209 00:11:15,780 --> 00:11:19,920 you need to have the right facility for airport. So there's 210 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,470 a lot of things that have to happen. And 211 00:11:24,060 --> 00:11:27,210 John C Dvorak: this is not like buying, you know, a just simple 212 00:11:27,210 --> 00:11:27,900 drone. 213 00:11:27,930 --> 00:11:32,460 Adam Curry: And also, according to our contact, most of these 214 00:11:32,460 --> 00:11:36,450 Ukrainian fighters will need quite a jet fighter pilots will 215 00:11:36,450 --> 00:11:38,670 need quite a lot of training because they're just going to 216 00:11:38,670 --> 00:11:43,440 ruin these jets. It's not as simple as Oh, I'm flying to MIG 217 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,490 29 a beat up old piece of crap. I'm going to jump in a f 16 and 218 00:11:47,490 --> 00:11:52,620 fly it you know, takes a little time. Now let's go to France 20 219 00:11:52,620 --> 00:11:55,950 For the most honest for a new service I've been able to find 220 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:04,110 and we bring in a the head lecturer is this guy? Right? Is 221 00:12:04,110 --> 00:12:07,290 this the guy? where's the where's the lecture guy? Here we 222 00:12:07,290 --> 00:12:13,020 go. The lecture guy, military lecture, a guy from University 223 00:12:13,050 --> 00:12:14,760 of Portsmouth, Oxford 224 00:12:14,910 --> 00:12:18,810 Unknown: floodings, Utah. And is this going to be too late for 225 00:12:18,810 --> 00:12:21,000 the spring the counter offensive that we hear so much about? 226 00:12:22,050 --> 00:12:25,080 The spring counter offensive? Oh, completely? 227 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,010 John C Dvorak: Wait a minute. Yeah, I would say if it goes 228 00:12:29,010 --> 00:12:31,530 into summer, yeah, it's too late for the spring counter 229 00:12:31,530 --> 00:12:33,720 offensive, but you can do a summer, we're not even 230 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,820 Adam Curry: gonna get summer this is going to take years 231 00:12:35,849 --> 00:12:39,809 Unknown: Biden's Utah is this isn't going to be too late for 232 00:12:39,809 --> 00:12:42,059 the spring counter offensive that we hear so much about, 233 00:12:42,479 --> 00:12:47,189 oh, completely. These will not be deployed in any numbers, we 234 00:12:47,189 --> 00:12:49,769 may see some cosmetic deployment before the end of the year. But 235 00:12:49,769 --> 00:12:52,109 I suspect it'll be spring next year before we see them 236 00:12:52,499 --> 00:12:56,009 operating to their potential. And that's when we may see them 237 00:12:56,009 --> 00:12:58,379 flying around. But that isn't operating to their potential. 238 00:12:58,649 --> 00:13:02,789 These objects just as any component of their power are 239 00:13:02,789 --> 00:13:05,759 part of a much more complex picture. They need to be 240 00:13:05,909 --> 00:13:11,219 trained, exercised, maintained, based to form part of that 241 00:13:11,219 --> 00:13:14,879 system. And putting that system together from not quite from 242 00:13:14,879 --> 00:13:20,309 scratch. But there's a lot to do will take many, many months, not 243 00:13:20,309 --> 00:13:23,099 least the training of the aircrew, ground crew and 244 00:13:23,099 --> 00:13:25,619 preparation of the bases and a lot more besides James, 245 00:13:25,710 --> 00:13:28,170 Adam Curry: I'm so amazed at France 24 is really the only 246 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:32,130 honest outfit out there. And so of course, the question is what 247 00:13:32,130 --> 00:13:34,650 really what changed? Does this make what 248 00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:37,620 Unknown: will realistically changed here, but nothing much 249 00:13:37,620 --> 00:13:43,470 they saber rattling threats for the high Mars, the long range 250 00:13:43,470 --> 00:13:47,580 artillery system in much earlier in the war, calling all that 251 00:13:47,580 --> 00:13:50,730 escalation this against the background, of course, constant 252 00:13:50,730 --> 00:13:53,820 bombardment day after day of high high end cruise missiles, 253 00:13:53,940 --> 00:13:57,060 most of which caused a shutdown by the gift of anti aircraft 254 00:13:57,060 --> 00:13:59,670 missiles by tanks. And now we hear it's over jet. I don't 255 00:13:59,670 --> 00:14:01,200 think we've much to worry about just yet. 256 00:14:01,530 --> 00:14:04,740 My question is, which of Ukraine's allies are likely to 257 00:14:04,740 --> 00:14:07,200 deliver on these jets? How many are they going to need for this 258 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,400 to actually make the difference, 259 00:14:08,850 --> 00:14:12,540 but probably need an excess of 30 to make any sorts of impact? 260 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,370 I think we won't know yet who the donor countries are. All 261 00:14:17,370 --> 00:14:20,610 countries are required to get to all the countries that operated 262 00:14:20,610 --> 00:14:23,850 right now are required by those countries. There are constraints 263 00:14:23,850 --> 00:14:27,630 as to the types that are sent. There are constraints also on 264 00:14:27,630 --> 00:14:30,330 the avionics that are inside the jets that may need to be 265 00:14:30,330 --> 00:14:33,420 modified to be sent to Ukraine. So we won't know that I think 266 00:14:33,420 --> 00:14:37,590 just yet but the coalition which certainly existed as 16 donating 267 00:14:37,590 --> 00:14:40,170 nations, we'll be thinking about that very carefully right now. 268 00:14:40,290 --> 00:14:43,080 But I would suggest it would probably be a couple of European 269 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:43,710 countries. 270 00:14:44,370 --> 00:14:47,850 Adam Curry: Yeah. And wouldn't you know, in excess of 30 is 271 00:14:47,850 --> 00:14:52,410 what he said. The Netherlands just cancelled the deal between 272 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,770 the country and Drake, an international US arms dealer, a 273 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:01,110 private company for the sale of 40 f 16. Fighters hmm Have they 274 00:15:01,110 --> 00:15:05,550 finally gotten the Netherlands to pony up? Looks like that's 275 00:15:05,550 --> 00:15:09,180 where the disability meet. So meanwhile, while this is all 276 00:15:09,180 --> 00:15:13,350 taking place and we'll get to Bach mood in a moment, kings 277 00:15:13,350 --> 00:15:18,450 olanski is over in Saudi Arabia of dressing the bros. They're 278 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,500 Unknown: here at the summit who have a different view on the Hun 279 00:15:22,500 --> 00:15:24,960 John C Dvorak: stop there you get the timeline? Correct. He 280 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,540 was in Saudi Arabia before he went to g7. 281 00:15:28,710 --> 00:15:31,440 Adam Curry: Okay, but this is all happening in the background. 282 00:15:32,010 --> 00:15:32,880 Yeah. Okay. 283 00:15:32,970 --> 00:15:36,600 Unknown: So here at the summit who have a different view on the 284 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:41,850 war on our land, calling it a conflict, I'm sure that we can 285 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:47,400 all be united in saving people from the cages of Russian 286 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:48,120 prisons, 287 00:15:48,150 --> 00:15:51,420 Adam Curry: the cages of Russian prisons, it doesn't seem to be 288 00:15:51,420 --> 00:15:54,630 about an attack on on Ukraine anymore. 289 00:15:54,660 --> 00:15:58,380 Unknown: Fortunately, there are some in the world and here among 290 00:15:58,380 --> 00:16:03,750 you who turn a blind eye to those cages and illegal 291 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:04,740 annexations 292 00:16:04,860 --> 00:16:07,410 Adam Curry: and what cages have we missed something in the 293 00:16:07,410 --> 00:16:09,450 reporting of cages or people being 294 00:16:09,630 --> 00:16:11,430 John C Dvorak: talking about that journalist that was picked 295 00:16:11,430 --> 00:16:13,470 up and thrown in jail? I 296 00:16:13,830 --> 00:16:18,270 Unknown: to those cages and illegal annexations and I'm here 297 00:16:18,420 --> 00:16:23,940 so that everyone can take an honest look, no matter how hard 298 00:16:24,390 --> 00:16:30,060 the Russians tried to influence, there must still be independence 299 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,570 in the occupied Crimea are Muslim and more than SNA 300 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,360 Adam Curry: I don't understand why this happened. The audio is 301 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,560 almost like it was an insert the audio goes way down and then we 302 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,960 get something about the occupiers of Muslim listen 303 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:43,230 again, 304 00:16:43,260 --> 00:16:46,890 Unknown: there must still be independence in the occupied 305 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,660 Crimea, Muslim and the 306 00:16:48,660 --> 00:16:51,600 Adam Curry: occupied in Crimea are Muslims. So that's his 307 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,400 appeal, I guess. And I'm not 308 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:58,680 John C Dvorak: yes, it was noted on either news, our NPR that 309 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:04,440 this he was appealing to the Muslims, claiming that Ukraine 310 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,990 is like a mother. You didn't ever set it. And I think they 311 00:17:06,990 --> 00:17:09,120 had to, I think that's surprising to 312 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:10,140 Adam Curry: sounds inserted 313 00:17:10,170 --> 00:17:16,200 John C Dvorak: because Because Ukraine is not a Muslim country. 314 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,280 There's a pocket or two of Muslims in Ukraine and he's 315 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,530 trying to make it sound as though they're going to help 316 00:17:22,530 --> 00:17:24,750 their fellow members of the ummah. 317 00:17:25,020 --> 00:17:28,710 Adam Curry: This is a chat GPT glitch that went wrong. 318 00:17:29,010 --> 00:17:32,640 Unknown: There must still be independence in the occupied 319 00:17:32,730 --> 00:17:38,460 Crimea. Muslim, I'm more than sure that none of you will agree 320 00:17:38,730 --> 00:17:43,530 to surrender a thought of your country to the invaders. And I'm 321 00:17:43,530 --> 00:17:48,570 more than sure none of you would watch without a fight how 322 00:17:48,570 --> 00:17:52,140 foreigners steal the children of your people, 323 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,580 Adam Curry: our back to stealing the children. Okay, that's what 324 00:17:56,580 --> 00:18:01,350 we need to just the children got it. Okay, so now we have the 325 00:18:01,350 --> 00:18:07,320 news that Bach mood has been taken has been taken by of 326 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,240 course, our favorite the Wagner group. 327 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,730 John C Dvorak: And if you want which clip Do you have because I 328 00:18:11,730 --> 00:18:15,750 have one from NPR. That is, well, I have a Deutsche Ella 329 00:18:15,750 --> 00:18:17,160 sure BS. 330 00:18:17,190 --> 00:18:19,320 Adam Curry: Let's do yours first. Because Georgia Bella is 331 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:24,870 the CIA. So let's listen to yours first. Hold on. What's it 332 00:18:24,870 --> 00:18:27,540 called? Oh, a bull crap. No. 333 00:18:28,590 --> 00:18:30,120 John C Dvorak: Yes, it's called Ukraine. 334 00:18:31,140 --> 00:18:32,220 Adam Curry: Oh, got it. Okay, 335 00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:34,920 Unknown: here we go. I heard of a Russian mercenary force a they 336 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,830 have completely captured the eastern Ukrainian city of Bach 337 00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:40,500 moot. amperes Charles Maynes has more WhatsApp. 338 00:18:42,450 --> 00:18:45,750 video posted to social media. The head of the Wagner mercenary 339 00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:48,780 group of Guinea precaution said after more than seven months of 340 00:18:48,780 --> 00:18:52,020 fighting in what he called the meat grinder of Bach moot his 341 00:18:52,020 --> 00:18:55,620 forces it sees the city in its entirety. Yet even as precaution 342 00:18:55,620 --> 00:18:58,800 spoken to the camera explosions could be heard in the distance. 343 00:18:58,950 --> 00:19:01,560 precaution also read up complaints the Russian defense 344 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,380 ministries top brass had intentionally started Wagner of 345 00:19:04,380 --> 00:19:08,100 arms during the siege, costing 1000s of additional lives. Even 346 00:19:08,100 --> 00:19:11,160 as he said responsibility for holding the city would now pass 347 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,460 to the Russian army while his forces took rest. Meanwhile, 348 00:19:14,460 --> 00:19:17,760 Ukraine denied precautions claims with officials and key 349 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,070 have seen heavy fighting and bucketload continued. 350 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,230 John C Dvorak: Okay, now a couple of things. Didn't we hear 351 00:19:25,230 --> 00:19:29,400 that this guy whose name I can't pronounce Rigoni rugosa. 352 00:19:30,030 --> 00:19:31,110 Adam Curry: Ran Wagner. 353 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:38,190 John C Dvorak: Mr. Wagner, he just recently said well, we're 354 00:19:38,190 --> 00:19:40,200 gonna leave we're quitting. We're going to leave this and 355 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,380 leave it to the Russian screw up. Yeah. as though they were 356 00:19:43,380 --> 00:19:46,980 going to just bail. Yeah. Well, now he says, Well, we took over 357 00:19:46,980 --> 00:19:49,350 the place that we're going to leave it to the Russians. I 358 00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:54,510 mean, these stories are just annoying. They're these days 359 00:19:54,510 --> 00:19:58,260 reporting is sucks. It's dreadful, but also, 360 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,610 Adam Curry: what is so so so Some media video shows this dude 361 00:20:02,670 --> 00:20:07,440 this Putzmeister Putzmeister promotion and he's got a run hot 362 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,190 dog man a hot dog man he's got a flag he's got like eight guys 363 00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:13,830 behind him who look I'm telling you look like Dad's Army they 364 00:20:13,830 --> 00:20:16,740 don't look like the killing machine that the you know the 365 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:21,810 the fiercest killing horrible fighters smashing people with 366 00:20:21,810 --> 00:20:25,230 sledgehammers that we heard about. And that's it. That's the 367 00:20:25,230 --> 00:20:25,890 whole and then 368 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,620 John C Dvorak: yeah, there's that forgot about that aspect of 369 00:20:28,620 --> 00:20:32,670 it. This these bullcrap stories about the sledge hammers? Yeah. 370 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,010 And they come on. Right. 371 00:20:35,010 --> 00:20:37,260 Adam Curry: So here's Deutsche Avella, which is always approved 372 00:20:37,260 --> 00:20:38,100 by the CIA, 373 00:20:38,190 --> 00:20:41,520 Unknown: and with yassky 1000s of kilometers away at the g7. 374 00:20:41,610 --> 00:20:44,970 Back in Ukraine, the head of Russia's Vagner mercenary group 375 00:20:44,970 --> 00:20:49,440 has claimed a breakthrough through fields getting corrosion 376 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,950 claims in this video that his forces have fully captured the 377 00:20:52,950 --> 00:20:56,280 eastern city of Buck wound. Ukraine's military has been 378 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,180 quick to deny the ruined city has fallen. He says its troops 379 00:21:00,210 --> 00:21:03,000 are still defending their positions. But he is what should 380 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,770 we make of precautions claims? 381 00:21:05,340 --> 00:21:07,980 It's hard to say no at the moment what the situation is. 382 00:21:08,130 --> 00:21:12,180 But we are really talking about a few streets that were left 383 00:21:12,510 --> 00:21:17,550 under Ukrainian control yesterday. More until recently, 384 00:21:18,060 --> 00:21:21,690 it's precisely these streets where the Ukrainian military 385 00:21:21,690 --> 00:21:26,640 says that fights are still going on that they would put up 386 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:31,470 resistance, but the situation was critical. So it's very hard 387 00:21:31,470 --> 00:21:35,400 to say, what's what's the exact situation on the ground. 388 00:21:36,030 --> 00:21:42,360 unlikely that by the end of the day or this weekend, Wagner will 389 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:46,830 have full control over the city if they don't have it yet. It's 390 00:21:46,830 --> 00:21:49,800 also possible of course, that the Ukrainians can hold on 391 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,060 further this could be 392 00:21:57,060 --> 00:22:00,630 the Russians in check in order to retreat, or it could be an 393 00:22:00,630 --> 00:22:05,520 attempt to keep them there. It's hard to say, but it's clear that 394 00:22:07,140 --> 00:22:11,220 has really advanced until a very, very small patch of the 395 00:22:11,220 --> 00:22:11,580 city. 396 00:22:12,090 --> 00:22:14,970 Adam Curry: Alright, so for weeks this was this was this was 397 00:22:14,970 --> 00:22:18,120 the pinnacle, the whole war hinged on Bach Moog Bach mood 398 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:25,050 Bach mood, now it's street couple streets maybe doesn't 399 00:22:25,050 --> 00:22:26,250 mean anything, 400 00:22:26,550 --> 00:22:29,520 Unknown: dude. And what's the significance? If it does take 401 00:22:29,550 --> 00:22:32,430 all of back them up? Does it change the strategic situation, 402 00:22:32,820 --> 00:22:33,720 it changes 403 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:38,850 maybe the situation on the ground with the Russian troops 404 00:22:38,850 --> 00:22:42,210 because it wouldn't be their first success in many months. 405 00:22:42,210 --> 00:22:45,240 And that's, of course, something that's also significant in a 406 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:50,190 war. But it is not the strategic place that it has been sometimes 407 00:22:50,190 --> 00:22:55,770 made. In the discussion. It is a place that sits at a crossroads 408 00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:59,250 where Russia would need to take it if it wants to advance 409 00:22:59,250 --> 00:23:02,850 further. But it's also not that the roads are open for them to 410 00:23:02,850 --> 00:23:08,640 advance as they please if if they just control this town, 411 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:13,380 it's more of a symbolic victory because remember, this fight 412 00:23:13,380 --> 00:23:16,860 around the city has been going on for many many months, and 413 00:23:16,860 --> 00:23:20,670 it's been the most heavy the hotspot of the war for many, 414 00:23:20,670 --> 00:23:24,360 many months. So it would certainly be a symbolic victory 415 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,560 John C Dvorak: case. This guy was just getting trained by CNN 416 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,030 remember this good stuff? Yes. Yeah. Left. Oh, my God is 417 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:35,880 looking left looking right. What you're wearing a helmet. 418 00:23:36,510 --> 00:23:39,000 Adam Curry: No, he wasn't. He wasn't about he was he was just 419 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:44,010 in his office. He was in in his office in in chief. me this. 420 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,070 This is but this is my point. This is wag the dog. It's just a 421 00:23:47,070 --> 00:23:49,830 bunch of this was the most important fight, but I screwed 422 00:23:49,830 --> 00:23:53,010 that we got f 16 is coming guy. It'll be in a couple of years. 423 00:23:53,010 --> 00:23:57,450 But you know. And then Reuters reports. A couple years. 424 00:23:57,660 --> 00:24:02,430 Reuters. Reuters reports that in the forthcoming July NATO Summit 425 00:24:02,430 --> 00:24:08,040 in Vilnius leaders are set to approve 1000s of pages of secret 426 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,310 military plans that will detail for the first time since the 427 00:24:11,310 --> 00:24:14,850 Cold War, Cold War, how the alliance will respond to a 428 00:24:14,850 --> 00:24:21,570 Russian attack. These people are insane. They love war. They just 429 00:24:21,570 --> 00:24:22,260 love it. 430 00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:24,750 John C Dvorak: They're raising money. 431 00:24:25,140 --> 00:24:27,630 Adam Curry: Well, yeah, of course. But you know, it's like 432 00:24:27,660 --> 00:24:33,150 this is stupid. Now, I have a couple of clips of also from 433 00:24:33,150 --> 00:24:37,740 NPR, of this, of the Arab summit, the Arab League Summit, 434 00:24:37,740 --> 00:24:42,330 because who shows up all of a sudden, Angelina Jolie and bad 435 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:45,690 Brad Pitt's buddy? Assad pleaders? Yeah 436 00:24:45,690 --> 00:24:48,570 Unknown: crossback. He's back worlds are meeting in Saudi 437 00:24:48,570 --> 00:24:51,780 Arabia and someone who hasn't been in the room for over a 438 00:24:51,780 --> 00:24:54,060 decade is making a reappearance. 439 00:24:54,090 --> 00:24:58,200 Syria's President Bashar Al Assad is officially ending years 440 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,170 of isolation by the region's powers. Over his brutal civil 441 00:25:01,170 --> 00:25:04,170 war that's killed an estimated half a million people. 442 00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:07,890 Washington has condemned the kingdom's normalization of ties 443 00:25:07,890 --> 00:25:11,070 with Assad and the invitation is seen as another sign of the 444 00:25:11,070 --> 00:25:14,010 strained relationship between the US and Saudi Arabia's at 445 00:25:14,430 --> 00:25:17,790 a of a trial he is in Jeddah. That's where this year's Arab 446 00:25:17,790 --> 00:25:21,180 League Summit is taking place. Good morning. Good morning. 447 00:25:21,180 --> 00:25:21,900 Morning, Leila. 448 00:25:22,590 --> 00:25:26,160 Adam Curry: So the NPR stop has got to stop. Good morning. Good 449 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,360 morning. Good morning, America. It 450 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:31,860 Unknown: is taking place. Good morning. Good morning. The 451 00:25:31,860 --> 00:25:35,160 return of Bashar Al Assad who was something of a pariah over 452 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,890 his crackdown on the opposition to his rule, the torture in 453 00:25:37,890 --> 00:25:40,530 prisons, the hundreds of 1000s who have been killed in the 454 00:25:40,530 --> 00:25:43,620 Civil War. Now he's just being welcomed back. 455 00:25:43,710 --> 00:25:47,670 Adam Curry: This is such bull crap. We this was all a hoax. 456 00:25:48,090 --> 00:25:51,390 All the bombing of the chemical weapons of his own people, the 457 00:25:51,390 --> 00:25:57,510 White Helmets. The whole thing was a hoax. I mean, this is as 458 00:25:57,510 --> 00:26:00,270 if it as if all of that was never happened that was never 459 00:26:00,270 --> 00:26:04,290 deconstructed. NPR just goes Oh, yeah, memory was killing his own 460 00:26:04,290 --> 00:26:09,810 people. His dad did that for sure. But this what is he? Isn't 461 00:26:09,810 --> 00:26:15,240 he an eye doctor? I think he's an eye doctor. absolute 462 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,070 knowledge. Yeah. ophthalmologist? Yeah, this 463 00:26:17,070 --> 00:26:18,480 horrible guy with a list? 464 00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:21,240 Unknown: Well, yeah, I mean, that is pretty much what's 465 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,330 happened. Look, there are countries important ones like 466 00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:26,640 Egypt and the United Arab Emirates that had already been 467 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,090 building back their ties into Syria for years now. But the big 468 00:26:30,090 --> 00:26:33,480 shift really happened after February's earthquakes that 469 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,510 struck Turkey and parts of Syria. It gave Saudi Arabia and 470 00:26:36,510 --> 00:26:39,630 other countries around the fence in this region, what they needed 471 00:26:39,630 --> 00:26:42,990 to reengage with Syria, at least for humanitarian purposes at 472 00:26:42,990 --> 00:26:45,840 first, but not everyone in the region agrees with this embrace 473 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,560 of acid, Qatar and Kuwait are both opposed. And the image of 474 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,140 Assad being welcomed here on the red carpet yesterday when he 475 00:26:52,140 --> 00:26:57,810 arrived in Jeddah is jarring to many Syrians as well. We've got 476 00:26:57,810 --> 00:26:57,870 to 477 00:26:57,870 --> 00:26:59,640 John C Dvorak: figure out you know, I've got to figure this 478 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:06,750 out. This can this works out with zolecki going to Saudi 479 00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:10,230 Arabia and slamming the Russians because the real problem was 480 00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:14,040 Syria and us and our people is the Russia the Russians for 481 00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:17,460 Russian stronghold. They use it as a docking port. They have 482 00:27:17,940 --> 00:27:23,250 every you know, bases there for all practical purposes. And it's 483 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:29,490 it's their kind of outpost why we use other places, plenty. So 484 00:27:29,490 --> 00:27:32,700 they have their outpost in Syria, and we make a big fuss 485 00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:35,550 about it and try to get rouse them or others more. It's just 486 00:27:35,910 --> 00:27:41,280 sorry. Yes. And so you have this phony baloney, Zelinsky going 487 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,520 into Saudi Arabia for no good reason except to slam the 488 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:49,740 Russians. Because which is part of a effort to keep Syria from 489 00:27:49,740 --> 00:27:54,150 RE you know, joining with the Arab League, which didn't work 490 00:27:54,150 --> 00:27:56,820 because no one's gonna believe this guy. He's a midget. 491 00:27:59,070 --> 00:28:01,260 Adam Curry: There's more from NPR things that Lansky comes up 492 00:28:01,260 --> 00:28:01,440 to 493 00:28:01,470 --> 00:28:05,370 Unknown: is to remind people how the war started in Syria, it was 494 00:28:05,370 --> 00:28:08,490 protest against essence rule that were violently repressed 495 00:28:08,490 --> 00:28:12,090 that turned into a civil war. Saudi Arabia, the host country 496 00:28:12,090 --> 00:28:15,930 today back the rebels trying to topple Assad. And today, this 497 00:28:15,930 --> 00:28:18,540 return means what that is it has officially won. 498 00:28:20,220 --> 00:28:22,950 Well, I mean, his country is an economic crisis right now. And 499 00:28:22,950 --> 00:28:25,650 US sanctions are really impeding efforts to normalize with him. 500 00:28:25,650 --> 00:28:28,620 But yeah, I mean, the effort to topple him failed when Russia 501 00:28:28,620 --> 00:28:31,710 and Iran rushed to his side. And now Syria, civil wars at a 502 00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:34,530 stalemate, millions of Syrian refugees are waiting to return 503 00:28:34,590 --> 00:28:37,560 and that is going to require rebuilding Syria and Arab states 504 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,930 do want a piece of that. And they're hoping Syria can 505 00:28:39,930 --> 00:28:43,260 reorient itself back to the Arab fold and away from Iran, which 506 00:28:43,260 --> 00:28:44,880 still has a very big footprint there. 507 00:28:45,810 --> 00:28:48,660 Adam Curry: Iran comes into the play and as we know, the only 508 00:28:48,660 --> 00:28:51,840 two weeks away from having the nuclear bomb. So as you 509 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:52,200 mentioned, 510 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,030 John C Dvorak: but yeah, that was two weeks ago. 511 00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:57,390 Adam Curry: It was about two weeks ago. Maybe it's two weeks 512 00:28:57,390 --> 00:28:57,720 more. 513 00:28:57,750 --> 00:29:00,090 Unknown: So as you mentioned, Saudi is the region's 514 00:29:00,090 --> 00:29:03,660 powerbroker, lots of influence economically, politically, 515 00:29:03,690 --> 00:29:06,840 religiously. What's Saudi Arabia hoping to get out of the summit? 516 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,000 The Kingdom wants to flex its diplomatic muscles. Crown Prince 517 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,360 Mohammed bin Salman was long seen as a brash, impulsive, even 518 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,760 unpredictable leader but he's reversing course on a lot of 519 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,790 that and trying to rebrand Saudi Arabia as a mediator, including 520 00:29:20,790 --> 00:29:23,220 even in the war between Russia and Ukraine. And I'm hearing 521 00:29:23,220 --> 00:29:25,680 from diplomatic sources that Ukrainian president Volodymyr 522 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,290 Zelensky has been invited to attend the Arab League summit in 523 00:29:28,290 --> 00:29:31,350 Jeddah. So this is Prince Mohammed really flexing that 524 00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:35,070 ability resisting us pressure to pick aside go against Russia 525 00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:38,070 while also inviting acid a patron of Russia to a summit 526 00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:40,980 where Zielinski could be in attendance. So it's really a 527 00:29:40,980 --> 00:29:43,590 crown prince showcasing his power as a broker on the world 528 00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:46,920 stage and piarsaigh of a trolley Ingenta Thank you. 529 00:29:47,460 --> 00:29:50,760 John C Dvorak: Jetta. It's had analysis stinks horrible. 530 00:29:51,330 --> 00:29:54,090 Adam Curry: But that's NPR for it's it's bricks, obviously. 531 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,050 It's the bricks it's everyone's putting together little groups, 532 00:29:58,530 --> 00:30:01,950 and we look like the day We can't even count right? Oh, it's 533 00:30:01,950 --> 00:30:06,840 3 billion. Oh can give a little extra money. So stupid. I have 534 00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:09,480 only see I have Kirby. I 535 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,800 John C Dvorak: can't even count. 536 00:30:10,830 --> 00:30:13,290 Unknown: We can't even count right oversee a president by 537 00:30:13,290 --> 00:30:14,130 Yes. Hey, 538 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:14,730 Adam Curry: hey, 539 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,650 John C Dvorak: hey you want you know what they should do I have 540 00:30:16,650 --> 00:30:19,260 an idea. Oh, what do you want to straighten things out? Don't 541 00:30:19,260 --> 00:30:23,160 worry about it out at the Pentagon. Yeah. How did you 542 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:23,730 know? 543 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,470 Adam Curry: Yeah, I don't know. It's just one of those things 544 00:30:25,470 --> 00:30:27,090 we've been talking about for 15 years. 545 00:30:27,150 --> 00:30:30,420 Unknown: Overseas, President Biden is at the g7 summit in 546 00:30:30,420 --> 00:30:34,020 Japan. World leaders today agreed to a new round of 547 00:30:34,020 --> 00:30:38,220 sanctions against Russia. Oh CBSs Elizabeth Palmer reports. 548 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,670 Your cranes Volodymyr Zelensky, will join the meetings when he 549 00:30:41,670 --> 00:30:43,320 arrives this weekend. 550 00:30:43,740 --> 00:30:47,250 John C Dvorak: Wow, hold on a second. What the hell's he got 551 00:30:47,250 --> 00:30:49,380 to do with the price of bread when it comes to making this 552 00:30:49,380 --> 00:30:55,290 sort of decision, which is an American decision? Was he gonna 553 00:30:55,290 --> 00:30:59,250 throw his two cents in? He's the Yeah, he's the token but is he 554 00:30:59,250 --> 00:31:01,500 and his consultant now to our government. 555 00:31:02,250 --> 00:31:12,300 Adam Curry: I love seeing Rishi what's a Macron? And then queen, 556 00:31:12,330 --> 00:31:17,070 Ursula. I mean, so they have their two countries as well. Of 557 00:31:17,070 --> 00:31:21,270 course the UK isn't but the France is in the EU. So but the 558 00:31:21,270 --> 00:31:23,550 net I mean, don't other countries. Oh, and the German 559 00:31:23,550 --> 00:31:26,790 guy to the German chancellor was there. But there's a whole bunch 560 00:31:26,790 --> 00:31:29,490 of other countries they don't get to go. I guess it's because 561 00:31:29,490 --> 00:31:34,110 they're not g7. But then Ursula, does your EU count as a g7 or 562 00:31:34,110 --> 00:31:38,280 she also just a consultant because she's she's not the 563 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,700 leader of any Well, she's the, you know, the President of the 564 00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:45,150 European Council. And by the way, she didn't get the memo. 565 00:31:45,150 --> 00:31:49,230 She's wearing a pink like a pink jacket and everyone else is 566 00:31:49,230 --> 00:31:51,510 black and dark and dark blue, 567 00:31:51,540 --> 00:31:53,610 John C Dvorak: but she should wearing blue and yellow. 568 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,060 Unknown: Ukrainian president will be the summit special 569 00:31:57,060 --> 00:32:01,710 guests due to arrive here this weekend. Zelinsky spent the day 570 00:32:01,710 --> 00:32:05,130 at the Arab summit in Saudi Arabia looking for support from 571 00:32:05,130 --> 00:32:09,750 some leaders with close ties to Moscow. He welcomed the 572 00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:13,050 announcement from President Biden that the US would back to 573 00:32:13,050 --> 00:32:18,360 plan to train Ukrainian pilots on us made F sixteens. This he 574 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,600 wrote will greatly enhance our army in the sky. 575 00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:25,680 Adam Curry: It's called an Air Force douchebag army in the sky. 576 00:32:25,710 --> 00:32:27,300 This he wrote will greatly 577 00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:31,740 Unknown: enhance our army in the sky. The Ukrainian leader has 578 00:32:31,740 --> 00:32:36,150 been asking for months that the US provide F 16 to help turn the 579 00:32:36,150 --> 00:32:41,130 tide of war. A US official said Mr. Biden is now committed to 580 00:32:41,130 --> 00:32:44,610 helping Ukraine get the Jets, although they may actually be 581 00:32:44,610 --> 00:32:46,950 supplied by European allies. 582 00:32:47,310 --> 00:32:49,950 No, he doesn't need a 60s Now, originally, 583 00:32:51,420 --> 00:32:55,230 to supply the planes as they have the capacity to hit targets 584 00:32:55,260 --> 00:32:59,310 deep inside Russia, fighter planes pose a certain risk of 585 00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:03,360 escalation. How big is it? We have been mindful of the risk of 586 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,520 escalation since the very beginning. In fact, we've taken 587 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,690 some criticism for that, because we want to make sure that that 588 00:33:09,690 --> 00:33:12,780 as we support Ukraine, we aren't making it worse for the 589 00:33:12,780 --> 00:33:16,170 Ukrainian people by having this war escalate to be exactly what 590 00:33:16,170 --> 00:33:19,920 Putin wants it to be in claims it to be a war about the West 591 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,930 versus Russia or NATO versus Russia. 592 00:33:24,210 --> 00:33:27,330 Adam Curry: I love I love how he just projects us all out there. 593 00:33:28,020 --> 00:33:32,040 Putin claims that no, that would be anti war people like us and 594 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,490 you know, other people who just don't want war. We see what's 595 00:33:35,490 --> 00:33:37,620 going on. No, no 596 00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:39,930 John C Dvorak: that was going on. That was exactly what Putin 597 00:33:39,930 --> 00:33:40,470 said 598 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,590 Unknown: now is going to take 16 599 00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:45,810 John C Dvorak: is coming from Holland to train 600 00:33:45,810 --> 00:33:48,630 Unknown: those Ukrainian pilots at sites in Europe. And we still 601 00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:51,000 don't know which countries exactly are going to 602 00:33:51,810 --> 00:33:55,590 John C Dvorak: stop. So now this report is discrepant, because I 603 00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:58,110 was under the impression from the reports I've been listening 604 00:33:58,110 --> 00:34:01,140 to that they're going to train the Ukrainian pilots in the 605 00:34:01,140 --> 00:34:04,560 United States. She just said they're going to train him in 606 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,510 Europe. Oh, 607 00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:09,060 Adam Curry: well, that's not that could Poland maybe Poland, 608 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,890 Germany. I'm Stein. 609 00:34:11,429 --> 00:34:13,919 John C Dvorak: I have no idea where now Ramstein 610 00:34:13,949 --> 00:34:17,489 Unknown: Ramstein. Take time to train those Ukrainian pilots at 611 00:34:17,489 --> 00:34:20,399 sites in Europe and we still don't know which sites in Europe 612 00:34:20,399 --> 00:34:24,329 countries exactly are going to supply the aircraft. So it's 613 00:34:24,329 --> 00:34:28,949 safe to say JB that we won't see them in combat for months to 614 00:34:28,949 --> 00:34:29,369 come. 615 00:34:29,550 --> 00:34:35,940 Adam Curry: JB JB doesn't this so if the Netherlands 616 00:34:35,969 --> 00:34:39,089 John C Dvorak: that was that was CBS yeah CBS okay is probably it 617 00:34:39,089 --> 00:34:40,469 they're gonna trim in Europe. 10 618 00:34:40,770 --> 00:34:43,650 Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, let's just let's say the Dutch and 619 00:34:43,650 --> 00:34:48,990 they're 40 F sixteens. to Ukraine. Doesn't that mean the 620 00:34:48,990 --> 00:34:58,620 Dutch will logically be buying new stuff. Oh, oh wow. Hey, new 621 00:34:58,620 --> 00:35:01,710 stuff. We can buy new gear. Here, listen, people in the 622 00:35:01,710 --> 00:35:06,750 Netherlands, we have to do this for Ukraine. Whatever it takes, 623 00:35:06,780 --> 00:35:08,670 don't worry, we'll tax you and buy some more 624 00:35:08,670 --> 00:35:10,950 John C Dvorak: the F 16 is at the end of its lifecycle, I 625 00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:14,820 think and I and I, and the money, the models I I'm going to 626 00:35:14,820 --> 00:35:18,480 look it up. But the models have changed substantially since the 627 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:23,460 first released these so the old pieces of crap F 16. That's what 628 00:35:23,460 --> 00:35:25,830 they're given them. The ones that run on coal is the ones 629 00:35:25,830 --> 00:35:29,040 that don't owe the ones that run coal. That's where the dust is 630 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,330 gonna be the ones that was it, you know that you have to hand 631 00:35:33,330 --> 00:35:34,470 crank the engine to get 632 00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:38,070 Adam Curry: as far as Okay, let's see what NBC had to say. 633 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,310 Unknown: NBC News learning is at Lenski is poised to get a major 634 00:35:41,310 --> 00:35:45,540 victory. The US and allies are now planning to provide F 16 635 00:35:45,540 --> 00:35:46,200 fighter jet 636 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,680 Adam Curry: though. That's this is an interesting word usage, as 637 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,260 the Lensky is about to get a major victory on the 638 00:35:52,260 --> 00:35:56,130 battlefield, Buck moot. Anything? No, he's going to get 639 00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:57,450 f 16. 640 00:35:57,900 --> 00:36:00,150 John C Dvorak: That's the victory. When I'm going to 641 00:36:00,180 --> 00:36:03,480 here's his pop quiz, pop quiz, pop quiz. When was the first 642 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,040 flight of the first F 16? 643 00:36:05,490 --> 00:36:12,330 Adam Curry: I'm going to guess 1984 1974. 644 00:36:12,810 --> 00:36:16,020 John C Dvorak: Oh, Lane is 50 years old. 645 00:36:16,770 --> 00:36:18,420 Adam Curry: Well, that's just the model. I mean, doesn't mean 646 00:36:18,420 --> 00:36:21,750 that the actual planes are that old. They still they still crank 647 00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:23,670 them out. Don't they? Don't they still make them they don't make 648 00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:25,140 them anymore. Willis 649 00:36:25,140 --> 00:36:28,680 John C Dvorak: has a number of built has been 40 604 built as 650 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,510 of June 2018. I'm not gonna look I'll look into it. I don't think 651 00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:33,990 so. 652 00:36:34,260 --> 00:36:37,200 Unknown: Let's continue. Our NBC reports and I NBC News learning 653 00:36:37,230 --> 00:36:41,100 is the Lenski is poised to get a major victory. The US and allies 654 00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:44,700 are now planning to provide F 16 fighter jets to Ukraine. 655 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,580 According to a senior administration official. It's 656 00:36:47,580 --> 00:36:51,210 unclear which countries will provide the Jets. Still it's a 657 00:36:51,210 --> 00:36:54,870 move. The Biden administration previously opposed same 658 00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:58,350 Adam Curry: reporters CBS by the exact same words, except they 659 00:36:58,350 --> 00:37:01,170 did slip in the US will be providing them which is not 660 00:37:01,170 --> 00:37:01,530 true. 661 00:37:01,830 --> 00:37:04,110 Unknown: And Kristen, we have a bit of breaking news citing key 662 00:37:04,470 --> 00:37:08,040 late word of more explosions, more air defense measures being 663 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,650 deployed. And even though President Solinsky had said 664 00:37:10,650 --> 00:37:14,070 those F 16 fighter jets would be a game changer. It's not going 665 00:37:14,070 --> 00:37:15,330 to happen overnight. Correct. 666 00:37:16,140 --> 00:37:19,050 Tom? That's right. It could take months to deliver them. The 667 00:37:19,050 --> 00:37:22,110 White House had been concerned the move would provoke Russia. 668 00:37:22,110 --> 00:37:25,200 There was also the worry about the cost. How long it would take 669 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,270 Adam Curry: how was that breaking news? By the way? What 670 00:37:27,270 --> 00:37:30,690 was the breaking news we have reports of of some Scud 671 00:37:30,690 --> 00:37:34,020 missiles? Oh, no wrong script. We have some reports of some 672 00:37:34,020 --> 00:37:34,770 breaking news 673 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,110 Unknown: time. That's right. It could take weeks even months to 674 00:37:37,110 --> 00:37:39,420 deliver them. The White House had been concerned the move 675 00:37:39,420 --> 00:37:42,630 would provoke Russia. There was also the worry about the cost, 676 00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:46,020 how long it would take to train the pilots when Zelinsky comes. 677 00:37:46,170 --> 00:37:49,590 He's expected to praise the move and likely asked us for even 678 00:37:49,590 --> 00:37:50,310 more aid. 679 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,570 Adam Curry: Oh, wow, this guy really has a chokehold on us. 680 00:37:55,050 --> 00:37:57,090 He's going to praise us good boys. 681 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,120 John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. This guy's desire to control more 682 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,610 information. F 16. Background are 683 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,430 Adam Curry: okay. And by the way, I'm sure we will have our 684 00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:08,760 boots on the ground set up straight by Thursday show. 685 00:38:10,860 --> 00:38:13,590 John C Dvorak: Because that is that is actually bullshit, which 686 00:38:13,590 --> 00:38:18,270 is what we're thinking. Yeah. So the first jet these first 687 00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:23,670 planes, which went into service and 78 were made by General 688 00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:28,380 Dynamics from 74 to 83, Lockheed picked them up in 93, and 689 00:38:28,380 --> 00:38:30,840 started making them for a couple of years. Then Lockheed Martin, 690 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,620 which was the Combine firm started making them from 95 to 691 00:38:34,620 --> 00:38:37,110 the present. So they're still being manufactured. 692 00:38:37,350 --> 00:38:40,830 Adam Curry: Wasn't that Not I, for some reason, and so did 693 00:38:40,830 --> 00:38:41,730 General Dynamics, 694 00:38:41,730 --> 00:38:44,580 John C Dvorak: the old, whatever old plains there are, the ones 695 00:38:44,580 --> 00:38:46,830 are going to the Ukraine. 696 00:38:47,550 --> 00:38:53,550 Adam Curry: There was Prince Bernard of the Netherlands. And 697 00:38:53,550 --> 00:38:56,610 this was I think, in the 70s probably was involved in 698 00:38:56,610 --> 00:39:01,290 something known as the Lockheed scandal. When the prince of the 699 00:39:01,290 --> 00:39:04,020 Netherlands received a 1 million, which was a lot of 700 00:39:04,020 --> 00:39:08,880 money back there, back then a $1 million bribe. What was it for, 701 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:14,670 again, reasonable bribe at the time? Yeah. I was in 1970s, 702 00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:18,660 negotiating the sale of aircraft. It was the Netherlands 703 00:39:18,660 --> 00:39:23,490 was Germany, Italy, Japan, which nearly led to Lockheed downfall. 704 00:39:24,450 --> 00:39:27,780 Anyway, for some reason that just came to mind. Let's listen 705 00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:31,680 to the movie The day the final report from ABC. 706 00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:34,440 Unknown: Today a senior administration official tells 707 00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:37,950 ABC News that President Biden has informed that g7 allies 708 00:39:37,980 --> 00:39:40,920 Adam Curry: What's this? This Yankee Doodle pipe in the 709 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:47,010 background? Listen to it. It's like some kind of patriotic Fife 710 00:39:47,010 --> 00:39:49,290 and Drum thing happening. No idea. 711 00:39:49,350 --> 00:39:51,180 Unknown: Yes senior Administration official tells 712 00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:55,110 ABC News that President Biden has informed the g7 allies here 713 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,560 that the United States has agreed to allow Ukrainian pilots 714 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,820 to begin training to fly American made F 16 fighter jets. 715 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,930 This move represents a major reversal for Biden and a wish 716 00:40:06,930 --> 00:40:08,700 fulfilled for Ukrainian president. 717 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,830 First of all, I'm sorry. 718 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,190 John C Dvorak: That's bullcrap. A major reversal is just get 719 00:40:14,190 --> 00:40:17,190 game growing into it. We know this was going to happen. 720 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,010 Adam Curry: Well, I think they have some clips of Biden saying 721 00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:21,840 and never 722 00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:26,370 Unknown: represents a major reversal and a wish fulfilled 723 00:40:26,370 --> 00:40:30,480 for Ukrainian president who has pleaded for F six teams for 724 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,050 months. 725 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:38,700 We have artillery. Yes. Thank you. We have it. Is it enough? 726 00:40:38,850 --> 00:40:40,320 Honestly, not really. 727 00:40:40,380 --> 00:40:41,700 John C Dvorak: No, never 728 00:40:41,850 --> 00:40:43,950 Adam Curry: listen to the guy. You stepped on it. 729 00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:45,690 John C Dvorak: This guy 730 00:40:46,290 --> 00:40:50,370 Adam Curry: playing crowd laughs It's a laugh line when he says 731 00:40:50,370 --> 00:40:56,220 this. This this group, this must be a bunch of arms dealers. 732 00:40:56,220 --> 00:41:02,550 Unknown: Yes. Thank you. We have it. Is it enough? Honestly, not 733 00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:03,120 really. 734 00:41:04,890 --> 00:41:10,200 Adam Curry: The what is that? Is this a laughing matter 735 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,730 John C Dvorak: is pushed to you should have boosted it. 736 00:41:11,850 --> 00:41:15,540 Adam Curry: I'm just noticing this message is this. These 737 00:41:15,540 --> 00:41:18,930 people are horrible. So we're supposed to be supposed to 738 00:41:18,930 --> 00:41:23,220 believe this is some existential war, existential war for Europe 739 00:41:23,310 --> 00:41:27,750 and the West and the West in general. And he says, Well, you 740 00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:31,140 know, thank Thank you. Thanks for that. Thanks for the tanks 741 00:41:31,140 --> 00:41:33,300 and whatever else, you old stuff. 742 00:41:33,780 --> 00:41:36,330 John C Dvorak: billions of billions, billions and billions 743 00:41:36,330 --> 00:41:37,770 of dollars a gear. It wasn't 744 00:41:37,770 --> 00:41:41,280 Adam Curry: enough wasn't enough. Not really. Ma Yeah. You 745 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,950 know why they're laughing thing? Yeah. Because billions more it's 746 00:41:43,950 --> 00:41:44,940 going to flow. 747 00:41:44,970 --> 00:41:51,510 Unknown: We have artillery? Yes. Yes. Thank you. We haven't, he's 748 00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:53,730 written off. Honestly, not really. 749 00:41:55,530 --> 00:41:59,370 The F 16. The backbone of the US Air Fleet can travel twice the 750 00:41:59,370 --> 00:42:03,120 speed of sound drop bombs on ground targets and fire air to 751 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,330 air missiles. Ukraine believes these planes provide a distinct 752 00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:09,660 advantage in the skies, enabling them to shoot down incoming 753 00:42:09,660 --> 00:42:12,870 cruise missiles and fighter jets fending off rushes punishing 754 00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:13,470 aerosol. 755 00:42:13,530 --> 00:42:16,080 Adam Curry: Wait a minute, I thought our patriots were doing 756 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,310 all that. The Patriot instinct. Yeah, that's already so 757 00:42:20,310 --> 00:42:20,970 successful. 758 00:42:21,210 --> 00:42:25,170 John C Dvorak: But up till now. Wait, how is the f6 is nice. Now 759 00:42:25,170 --> 00:42:27,510 we can get some some boots on the ground for when I say the 760 00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:32,850 next thing. That was the F 16 a 50 year old plane, the backbone 761 00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:38,100 of our Air Force. That the F 22 I want even though there's not 762 00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:41,130 that many of them are the F 18. I mean, there's a lot we have a 763 00:42:41,130 --> 00:42:42,210 lot of gear. 764 00:42:42,270 --> 00:42:44,850 Adam Curry: I'm just gonna say when you say that a 50 year old 765 00:42:44,850 --> 00:42:47,370 plane. The planes are not built my 766 00:42:47,370 --> 00:42:50,160 John C Dvorak: understanding if they're built to last but not 767 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,340 but numbers are still flying B 50 twos. Let's go. Yeah, I get 768 00:42:53,340 --> 00:42:53,610 that. What 769 00:42:53,610 --> 00:42:56,760 Adam Curry: I'm saying is they still build them in 2018. Yeah. 770 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,500 John C Dvorak: And they're building newer versions. Yeah. 771 00:42:59,580 --> 00:43:02,040 Yeah. But they're not going to get the new version. I can 772 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,410 assure you they're gonna get the 50 year old ones. 773 00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:07,290 Adam Curry: Yeah, it's like like you and your Lexus. 774 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,130 John C Dvorak: Car exhibit. It's not 50 years old, but 775 00:43:14,130 --> 00:43:16,410 Adam Curry: it's getting there. How old is your Lexus? 30 years 776 00:43:16,410 --> 00:43:18,120 old. It's gotta be 30 years old. I 777 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,640 John C Dvorak: have two Lexus's. One of them is about 30 years 778 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:25,260 old. The other one is 2005. You can do the math. But up till 779 00:43:25,260 --> 00:43:28,410 Unknown: now providing F 16 has been a red line for President 780 00:43:28,410 --> 00:43:32,280 Biden reluctant to provoke an unpredictable escalation from 781 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,610 Adam Curry: Russia. Oh, but let's do it. Now. Still, 782 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,370 Unknown: in a February interview with David Biden did leave the 783 00:43:38,370 --> 00:43:39,960 door open just a crack. 784 00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:42,780 We know President Solinsky continues to say what he really 785 00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:45,960 needs are f6 teams. Will you send up six teams? 786 00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:53,040 We're sending him What love our season military thinks you need 787 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,260 to know our seasoned 788 00:43:55,260 --> 00:43:59,430 Adam Curry: military or seasoned military. What? I don't 789 00:43:59,430 --> 00:44:03,300 understand this terms. This is this is all just what it's a big 790 00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:06,150 joke to these people. They're all laughing their ass off 791 00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:08,970 because they're gonna make hundreds of billions of dollars 792 00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:11,700 are f6 teams. Will you send up 60s 793 00:44:13,980 --> 00:44:18,450 Unknown: sending him what our seasoned military thinks you 794 00:44:18,450 --> 00:44:21,660 need to know. You don't think he needs F 16. Now he doesn't need 795 00:44:21,660 --> 00:44:22,440 f 60s now. 796 00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:23,250 Is that a never? 797 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:31,020 First of all, the idea that we know exactly what's going to be 798 00:44:31,020 --> 00:44:35,130 needed a year two three manava. There is no basis upon which 799 00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:36,960 John C Dvorak: a year or two or three. 800 00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:41,850 Unknown: We know exactly what's going to be needed a year to 801 00:44:41,850 --> 00:44:46,740 three now but there is no basis upon which there is a rationale 802 00:44:46,740 --> 00:44:50,760 according our military now to provide F 60s But you're not 803 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,670 ruling it out. I am wrong enough for now. For now, 804 00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:57,390 but no longer the administration now says they hope Ukrainian 805 00:44:57,390 --> 00:45:00,810 pilots can begin training in the coming weeks. As for who will 806 00:45:00,810 --> 00:45:03,720 actually provide the Jets tonight, that remains an open 807 00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:07,050 question. And administration officials saying our coalition 808 00:45:07,050 --> 00:45:10,020 of countries participating in this effort will decide when to 809 00:45:10,020 --> 00:45:13,770 actually provide the Jets, how many we will provide, and who 810 00:45:13,770 --> 00:45:15,150 will provide them. Maybe they 811 00:45:15,150 --> 00:45:17,610 Adam Curry: were just waiting to train African jet fighter 812 00:45:17,610 --> 00:45:21,180 pilots. That's where everything else seems to end up. Maybe this 813 00:45:21,180 --> 00:45:23,310 is not about Ukraine at all. Maybe they want to send these 814 00:45:23,310 --> 00:45:24,390 things down to Africa. 815 00:45:26,430 --> 00:45:28,680 John C Dvorak: Well, when he says to you a year or two or 816 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,480 three that we mistaken, well, they're gonna realize this place 817 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,680 like nothing we've seen in Europe. Ah, this is a 818 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,780 rehabilitation program. 819 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:46,260 Adam Curry: That's what sounds like. I don't think we're being 820 00:45:46,260 --> 00:45:51,630 told the full story. You don't know. Me? Well, there's 821 00:45:51,630 --> 00:45:54,330 John C Dvorak: another pop quiz. Okay, pop quiz. Pop quiz was the 822 00:45:54,330 --> 00:45:56,070 nickname for the F 16 823 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:02,670 Adam Curry: The jalopy? No, did I get it wrong? 824 00:46:03,090 --> 00:46:05,880 John C Dvorak: What fighting Falken Oh, yeah, I 825 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:11,730 Adam Curry: guess I didn't know that the fightings Well, anyway, 826 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,490 we got the F 35. And maybe maybe we're just waiting for 827 00:46:14,730 --> 00:46:16,230 John C Dvorak: what happened after it. Why don't we give them 828 00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:20,730 the F 35. Isn't that supposed to be the plane to we're supposed 829 00:46:20,730 --> 00:46:23,370 to sell overseas all these suckers? Yeah, but no 830 00:46:23,370 --> 00:46:25,710 Adam Curry: one's gonna pay for it. This is the whole point The 831 00:46:25,710 --> 00:46:28,770 Dutch are going to going to they were going to get rid of them 832 00:46:28,770 --> 00:46:33,630 anyway. They were clearly going to sell them. So now the Dutch 833 00:46:33,630 --> 00:46:36,240 give him to or sell them? I don't know. They won't be 834 00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:37,920 selling. There'll be it'll be because they're gonna go to 835 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,380 Ukraine and the Dutch have to buy some new stuff. And those 836 00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:43,650 will be 30 fives I would presume or 20 twos? Maybe? I don't know. 837 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,230 John C Dvorak: No, we don't sell it. 22 We don't sell that one. 838 00:46:46,799 --> 00:46:50,129 Adam Curry: I don't think so. Well, it's for sale somewhere. 839 00:46:50,879 --> 00:47:00,989 Yeah. To us. All right. Meanwhile, according to Politico 840 00:47:02,429 --> 00:47:08,519 and their political they are on the inside of the beltway. Joe 841 00:47:08,519 --> 00:47:12,599 Biden is reportedly considering freezing the conflict in Ukraine 842 00:47:12,749 --> 00:47:14,969 for the foreseeable future instead of pushing for the 843 00:47:14,969 --> 00:47:20,339 country's victory this this really falls right squarely into 844 00:47:20,339 --> 00:47:25,829 your theory that the Biden administration wants to have a 845 00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:29,969 way to be you know never change a winning team in a war and keep 846 00:47:29,969 --> 00:47:33,419 getting boots on the ground and keep everything going so that he 847 00:47:33,419 --> 00:47:35,399 doesn't get voted out for Big Mike 848 00:47:38,220 --> 00:47:40,560 John C Dvorak: Yeah as Easter he's going to need knows the 849 00:47:40,740 --> 00:47:46,980 playbook the political election playbook 850 00:47:47,550 --> 00:47:52,590 Adam Curry: you know it to me it feels like the just keep this is 851 00:47:52,590 --> 00:47:56,880 all to keep Biden kind of in play for the next year because 852 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,840 we still have a year to go before we even really get into 853 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:06,060 any kind of election. Noise action action Yeah, the noises 854 00:48:06,060 --> 00:48:10,020 now but in any election action. So this this this could be the 855 00:48:10,050 --> 00:48:16,530 only reason why he's not being run out of town. Yeah, this 856 00:48:16,530 --> 00:48:19,950 whole thing is I'm telling you with and we never hear about 857 00:48:19,950 --> 00:48:22,740 Russian troop movements only about vogner group the magical 858 00:48:22,740 --> 00:48:25,560 Wagner Wagner Wagner group. 859 00:48:25,770 --> 00:48:27,720 John C Dvorak: We never hear about Russian troop No, 860 00:48:27,780 --> 00:48:31,080 Adam Curry: no, you don't hear about that. Not only Wagner in 861 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:31,170 the 862 00:48:31,170 --> 00:48:34,470 John C Dvorak: war is it just some remote control thing? It's 863 00:48:34,470 --> 00:48:38,340 brand Wagner cruise missile over every so often. It's a brand 864 00:48:38,340 --> 00:48:40,980 brand Massive Attack going on here. 865 00:48:41,010 --> 00:48:43,860 Adam Curry: I love how people push back like vogner group is 866 00:48:43,860 --> 00:48:47,580 real No, no something happened some things happened around the 867 00:48:47,580 --> 00:48:51,390 world in Africa that was real but the just a sticker that just 868 00:48:51,390 --> 00:48:55,710 put a sticker on it. Wagner Wagner was here doesn't 869 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,980 John C Dvorak: have a load drawing like Kilroy. World War 870 00:48:58,980 --> 00:48:59,340 Two. 871 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,880 Adam Curry: Yes. It just 872 00:49:03,630 --> 00:49:06,570 John C Dvorak: they should have an assigned tagger. Let's be 873 00:49:06,570 --> 00:49:11,790 modern. Yes. spray can and tag everything. Wagner Wagner was 874 00:49:11,790 --> 00:49:14,820 Adam Curry: here a new one. Because it all I'm for all we 875 00:49:14,820 --> 00:49:19,710 know, it's our It's us. It's the CIA or whatever we use. 876 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,620 John C Dvorak: Actually, it could be thought of that one. 877 00:49:24,570 --> 00:49:28,410 Adam Curry: Related to this is the strengthening ties between 878 00:49:28,410 --> 00:49:32,070 Russia and by the way. I think what we're saying is this is all 879 00:49:32,070 --> 00:49:35,640 theater. And all of this is meant to spin people up and get 880 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:41,640 you all all jacked and equality from Democrats. Yes. And you 881 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,570 know, and and even the g7 being held in Hiroshima is all just 882 00:49:45,570 --> 00:49:48,120 all nuclear war. We're on the brink of nuclear war. They said 883 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,210 it over and over and over again in the back of your mind. Yeah, 884 00:49:51,540 --> 00:49:56,280 it's all all set up to spin you up. And to get you to want to 885 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,640 keep Joe in and oh, goodness was not anywhere else was certainly 886 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,250 not true. Ron Paul, it would be horrible. He's lying. He's 887 00:50:02,250 --> 00:50:03,030 horrible change 888 00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:04,920 John C Dvorak: horses in midstream. 889 00:50:05,250 --> 00:50:08,790 Unknown: Tonight squeezed by Western sanctions. Russia is 890 00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:12,420 relying on its neighbor literally next door. We are on 891 00:50:12,420 --> 00:50:16,650 the Chinese border and that's Russia. Shag just across the 892 00:50:16,650 --> 00:50:20,940 half frozen river. Here. The two countries are so close. Russia 893 00:50:20,940 --> 00:50:24,300 is just a few 100 yards away. 20 894 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,480 Adam Curry: right there. Oh my god. 895 00:50:27,870 --> 00:50:29,940 John C Dvorak: We're Sarah Palin when we need her. 896 00:50:30,270 --> 00:50:33,510 Unknown: I love like, Oh my God. It's just right over 897 00:50:34,050 --> 00:50:37,920 here. The two countries are so close. Russia is just a few 100 898 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:43,050 yards away. Along the 2600 mile border signs of deep China 899 00:50:43,050 --> 00:50:47,850 Russia ties are everywhere. on streets and buildings. It stores 900 00:50:47,850 --> 00:50:52,350 stocked with Russian goods. Where vendors greet foreigners 901 00:50:52,380 --> 00:50:55,380 in Russian there's even a Russian style bar. 902 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,550 Adam Curry: Has anyone who's watched this report ever been on 903 00:50:59,550 --> 00:51:02,280 a trip anywhere? Do they know anything about the world? I 904 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:02,910 guess not 905 00:51:02,970 --> 00:51:06,390 John C Dvorak: right? Oh, wow. You're right. It's the stupidest 906 00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:10,290 report. I can go to a grocery store in San Francisco and get 907 00:51:10,290 --> 00:51:13,710 greeted in Russian or Chinese for that matter. It's both 908 00:51:13,710 --> 00:51:14,790 Chinese for sure. 909 00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:18,390 Unknown: Where vendors greet foreigners in Russian there's 910 00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:20,040 even a Russians know are 911 00:51:20,070 --> 00:51:25,140 Adam Curry: a Russian style but what is a Russian style by a an 912 00:51:25,140 --> 00:51:29,340 AR style ar 15 style weapon what is a Russian style bar? 913 00:51:30,060 --> 00:51:31,830 John C Dvorak: Is this is a good question. What should it be like 914 00:51:31,830 --> 00:51:36,780 to like the linen bar in at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas? 915 00:51:39,660 --> 00:51:43,530 Adam Curry: With hot chicks with with furry hat and lots of vodka 916 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,410 and they say comrade a lot. Oh, 917 00:51:47,580 --> 00:51:50,730 Unknown: we're owner Tong Lu says Chinese people can mingle 918 00:51:50,730 --> 00:51:51,480 with Russians 919 00:51:51,870 --> 00:51:55,380 Adam Curry: mingle. It's almost like that that bar in mingle? 920 00:51:55,410 --> 00:52:01,140 Yeah. Is it Star Trek the bar we can mingle with. With our Wars 921 00:52:01,140 --> 00:52:02,820 Star Wars. The three eyed people. 922 00:52:02,850 --> 00:52:05,910 Unknown: China's President Xi Jinping declared a No Limits 923 00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:10,080 partnership with Russia. From that diplomatic boosts for 924 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:15,570 President Putin with a recent state visit to a critical 925 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:21,570 economic trade between China and Russia surging by 30% in the 926 00:52:21,570 --> 00:52:22,470 last year. 927 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,570 Adam Curry: This is I love the Breathless horse report NBC and 928 00:52:27,570 --> 00:52:28,410 there's a part two 929 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,310 John C Dvorak: is Janet. My God had they been out of town is 930 00:52:32,310 --> 00:52:32,850 Janice 931 00:52:32,850 --> 00:52:35,820 Adam Curry: Mackay Freya who is reporting for us rather let's 932 00:52:35,820 --> 00:52:39,570 take a look at Janice Mackay Freya for a second see. Janice 933 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,420 what is her deal? Mackay freight? She got the she got the 934 00:52:42,420 --> 00:52:45,930 gig though. She got to go. So that's kind of cool. Traveling. 935 00:52:46,260 --> 00:52:50,340 It's a great traveling gig hanging out in Russian bars. She 936 00:52:50,340 --> 00:52:54,930 is better. She's Scandinavian. Check it out. Oh, correspondent 937 00:52:54,930 --> 00:52:58,440 for NBC News based in Beijing. Give her a name again after look 938 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:03,780 it up. Janice Mackay Freya previously worked at CTV as Asia 939 00:53:03,780 --> 00:53:07,350 bureau chief. She was the network's Middle East Bureau 940 00:53:07,350 --> 00:53:10,260 Chief in Jerusalem. She's got some good gigs. 941 00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:15,900 John C Dvorak: She studied she was a CTV that's CTV Canada. 942 00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:16,410 Yeah, 943 00:53:16,410 --> 00:53:22,410 Adam Curry: Canada. Her she she studied international relations 944 00:53:22,410 --> 00:53:26,580 and French at the University of Toronto. I'm not sure if she 945 00:53:26,580 --> 00:53:29,970 spooky she might see slippery sea but 946 00:53:29,970 --> 00:53:32,970 John C Dvorak: she's spooky little switches if she's been in 947 00:53:32,970 --> 00:53:36,630 Beijing and then in case you've been all over so it's that kind 948 00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:37,740 of assigned. Oh, she 949 00:53:37,740 --> 00:53:41,370 Adam Curry: Oh, you need to look at her at her picture. She's got 950 00:53:41,370 --> 00:53:46,920 that. That that does I'm just talking as a as a producer 951 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:52,920 producer. She has kind of that war worried face. You know what 952 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,110 I mean? Like, how can I explain it? 953 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,880 John C Dvorak: I'm gonna look at it a bit. It looks spooky. 954 00:53:59,970 --> 00:54:04,260 Adam Curry: very stern. very stern and wrinkled. Yeah, it's 955 00:54:04,260 --> 00:54:04,410 like 956 00:54:04,410 --> 00:54:06,360 John C Dvorak: stern and wrinkled. There you go. That's 957 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,120 the description she's gonna love here. Let's go to 958 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,930 Unknown: part two. And this is where a huge pipeline delivers 959 00:54:12,930 --> 00:54:17,460 Russian gas to China. Energy that used to flow to Europe, all 960 00:54:17,460 --> 00:54:21,390 of it keeping Russia's economy afloat. funding the war in 961 00:54:21,390 --> 00:54:25,290 Ukraine. Haha damn training with goods will come and go from 962 00:54:25,290 --> 00:54:29,730 Russia across this bridge that was built and paid for by China. 963 00:54:30,090 --> 00:54:34,140 Russian truck drivers told us they're crossing to China every 964 00:54:34,140 --> 00:54:39,900 day. Give them as you were good friends he says of China. Steel 965 00:54:39,900 --> 00:54:43,800 relations during wartime are a sensitive topic here. We were 966 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,270 tracked by Chinese authorities. US officials including the US 967 00:54:48,270 --> 00:54:53,820 ambassador here tell NBC News there is no evidence so far. The 968 00:54:53,820 --> 00:54:56,130 support for Russia includes weapons. 969 00:54:57,450 --> 00:55:00,270 Adam Curry: John C. Dvorak School of Journalism ladies Live 970 00:55:00,270 --> 00:55:01,830 It is no evidence Russia 971 00:55:01,830 --> 00:55:04,470 Unknown: needing allies like never before want to hear that 972 00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:09,300 one again. But are here tell NBC News there is no evidence so far 973 00:55:09,450 --> 00:55:12,510 that shows for Russia includes weapons an 974 00:55:12,510 --> 00:55:15,990 Adam Curry: extra twist on the no evidence. No evidence so far. 975 00:55:16,110 --> 00:55:17,190 This is a good Yeah, 976 00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:19,650 John C Dvorak: that's actually advanced, advanced, 977 00:55:19,980 --> 00:55:24,780 Unknown: Russia needing allies like never before. And finding 978 00:55:24,780 --> 00:55:30,090 one close at hand. Janice Mackay for NBC News. Hey, hook, China, 979 00:55:30,090 --> 00:55:32,730 hey, hey, ha. 980 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:39,870 Adam Curry: Jackie, you need to go to Hey, ha, ha, ha, ha. This 981 00:55:39,870 --> 00:55:44,640 is all just so pathetic. Do they not understand that no agenda 982 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,550 show sees right through them that we understand what they're 983 00:55:47,550 --> 00:55:52,890 doing here. They're just trying to make everybody crazy. Man, 984 00:55:53,820 --> 00:55:57,270 for most people. You know, I see that. Of course. I'd like to 985 00:55:57,270 --> 00:56:01,920 remind everybody, as more and more normal people join the no 986 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,700 agenda show they join no agenda nation. And some people are new. 987 00:56:05,970 --> 00:56:09,180 And it is important to understand that John, I pretty 988 00:56:09,180 --> 00:56:12,180 much never speak during the week. I mean, the extent of it 989 00:56:12,180 --> 00:56:15,600 might be Hey, look at this great story about AI and then you'll 990 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,120 like say something horrible and I'll regret sending is a story. 991 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:18,450 That's 992 00:56:18,510 --> 00:56:20,400 John C Dvorak: and I loaded that product. 993 00:56:20,670 --> 00:56:26,460 Adam Curry: Oh, you did? You'd love I sent John a a, an article 994 00:56:26,460 --> 00:56:31,560 about using chat chat GPT type AI on your computer and you 995 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,850 loaded the product. 996 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,010 John C Dvorak: So I loaded the product. And then I tried to run 997 00:56:35,010 --> 00:56:38,250 it and it says hey, no, you got to load I have to load some sort 998 00:56:38,250 --> 00:56:43,080 of some back repo. I have to load the bases the data. 999 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,500 Adam Curry: Yeah, yes. You have to download the six gigabytes of 1000 00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:47,400 data of course. 1001 00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:49,890 John C Dvorak: Yeah. Okay, so I so I tried doing that it says 1002 00:56:50,670 --> 00:56:54,930 incompatible hardware. And I said what, wait a minute, but it 1003 00:56:54,930 --> 00:56:58,470 has a bunch of choices. There's like various models, I had to 1004 00:56:58,470 --> 00:57:01,140 load load the models. That's what it is. Had to load them as 1005 00:57:01,140 --> 00:57:04,170 I showed them. We tried the other model incompatible 1006 00:57:04,170 --> 00:57:08,430 hardware, using a machine running Windows 11. If you can't 1007 00:57:08,430 --> 00:57:11,760 run something on Windows 11, which is picky about the 1008 00:57:12,210 --> 00:57:15,750 hardware compatibility is bullcrap product, okay. 1009 00:57:18,540 --> 00:57:23,880 Adam Curry: All right. Thank you for this report. So far so far, 1010 00:57:23,970 --> 00:57:27,360 AI is failing on the no agenda show the running in at home. All 1011 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:34,080 right. Can't stop laughing. That's great. Hold on a second. 1012 00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:36,870 What Meanwhile, over in the UK, 1013 00:57:36,899 --> 00:57:40,979 Unknown: BT British Telecom are going to be cutting 55,000 jobs, 1014 00:57:40,979 --> 00:57:45,719 but crucially 10,000 of them are supposedly be going to AI. You 1015 00:57:45,719 --> 00:57:48,149 can see the front of the Daily Mail that they asked the 1016 00:57:48,149 --> 00:57:53,669 question Is this the start of the great AI jobs bloodbath, The 1017 00:57:54,269 --> 00:57:59,189 Guardian here as well btw to replace stuff with AI, and also 1018 00:57:59,189 --> 00:58:03,149 the Financial Times they call it. They call it the most 1019 00:58:03,149 --> 00:58:06,329 radical cuts since privatization since British Telecom was 1020 00:58:06,329 --> 00:58:11,099 privatized. So Bter to slash up to 42% of the workforce by the 1021 00:58:11,099 --> 00:58:14,639 end of the decade by 2030. It comes just a couple of days 1022 00:58:14,639 --> 00:58:18,419 after Vodafone revealed that they will be cutting 11,000 jobs 1023 00:58:18,419 --> 00:58:21,269 themselves. The decision, of course comes to cut costs, but 1024 00:58:21,269 --> 00:58:24,599 also chief executive Philip Johnson says that AI tools such 1025 00:58:24,599 --> 00:58:27,389 as chat to GPT, they're ready. They've shown enough progress to 1026 00:58:27,389 --> 00:58:30,389 show that they can replace humans, especially in customer 1027 00:58:30,389 --> 00:58:34,559 service over the next six or seven years. It comes on the 1028 00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:38,279 same day. If we look at the times, the same day that Rishi 1029 00:58:38,279 --> 00:58:42,449 Sunak spoke and said that rules need to be in place to curb AI 1030 00:58:42,449 --> 00:58:45,059 and that Yeah, look, I might be a great thing. But we need to be 1031 00:58:45,059 --> 00:58:50,849 wary of its progress despite it being transformative technology. 1032 00:58:51,059 --> 00:58:55,229 If we look at AI news here, they expand on that UK wants new 1033 00:58:55,229 --> 00:58:59,399 rules, new rules are needed to tame AI new rules that global 1034 00:58:59,399 --> 00:59:02,609 regulations needed the pm made the comments during a flight to 1035 00:59:02,609 --> 00:59:06,089 Japan where the g7 is, of course taking place in Hiroshima. So 1036 00:59:06,089 --> 00:59:06,389 let's 1037 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,510 Adam Curry: analyze this just for a second. And by the way, 1038 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:14,100 it's too bad. I knew the former British Telecom CEO Gavin 1039 00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:18,630 Patterson, because when when we had pod show, we had Pato 1040 00:59:18,780 --> 00:59:23,370 London. And he was he was kind of he was up in the in 1041 00:59:23,370 --> 00:59:26,310 management of BT, but he eventually when the Dutch guy 1042 00:59:26,310 --> 00:59:29,580 left who was a real dick, when that guy left then Patterson 1043 00:59:29,580 --> 00:59:33,090 became CEO, I still have his number. I'm going to ask him 1044 00:59:33,090 --> 00:59:36,930 what if he knows what's going on? But he left in 2018 or 2019. 1045 00:59:37,470 --> 00:59:43,740 But what I hear is that okay, so 55,000 jobs that just sounds 1046 00:59:43,740 --> 00:59:46,950 like me. No, we just got to cut back because we're bloated and 1047 00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:49,380 you know, there's no more free money hobbyists, that's what 1048 00:59:49,380 --> 00:59:53,640 everyone's doing in technology, but of those 10,000 is customer 1049 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:58,740 service. This I Believe, I completely believe that chat GPT 1050 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:03,120 can do function just as poorly as humans in b2b customer 1051 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:07,890 service. I think that's perfect. And I'm sure that's what they're 1052 01:00:07,890 --> 01:00:10,590 doing. I'm sure that customer service representatives 1053 01:00:10,620 --> 01:00:14,460 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's gonna suck as usual. Don't have to pay 1054 01:00:14,460 --> 01:00:15,000 anybody. 1055 01:00:15,029 --> 01:00:17,879 Adam Curry: It won't suck any any more. It'll just Yeah, it'll 1056 01:00:17,879 --> 01:00:19,349 suck cheaper paths suck 1057 01:00:19,350 --> 01:00:21,630 John C Dvorak: cheap. Yeah, no suck cheaper. There's a show 1058 01:00:21,630 --> 01:00:23,310 title suck cheaper. 1059 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,970 Adam Curry: We're loaded with show titles today. Yeah. And 1060 01:00:26,970 --> 01:00:34,860 that makes total sense. By the way. Five seventy.ai 570 dot AI, 1061 01:00:35,190 --> 01:00:38,520 A J. Donnelly, one of our producers, he's loaded up and no 1062 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,520 agenda show stuff in there. You can literally ask things like, 1063 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,700 what are all the give me the red bullets. It's all 1064 01:00:44,700 --> 01:00:50,340 570 157 zero.ai. And you can you can go in there. And you can 1065 01:00:50,340 --> 01:00:55,560 say, give me all the Red Book predictions or what episode? I 1066 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:56,880 mean, it has a lot. Okay, 1067 01:00:56,940 --> 01:00:59,370 John C Dvorak: I'm going to try it. Yeah. Yeah. You mentioned 1068 01:00:59,370 --> 01:01:03,690 something about the bad the bad Dutch CEO. Yeah. So we got a 1069 01:01:03,690 --> 01:01:08,970 note from someone. I'm not going to bless the guy. But he says 1070 01:01:08,970 --> 01:01:13,260 that somewhere along the line, and I didn't think I didn't 1071 01:01:13,260 --> 01:01:15,390 think it was serious. But then I thought about it. I said, you 1072 01:01:15,390 --> 01:01:20,580 know, I think this might be true. Okay, you, you knuckled by 1073 01:01:20,580 --> 01:01:21,240 Munder 1074 01:01:21,300 --> 01:01:23,580 Adam Curry: a knuckle under to pressure 1075 01:01:25,140 --> 01:01:28,500 John C Dvorak: from a couple of Dutch producers who said we're 1076 01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:35,250 offended by Adams. Dutch voice. No. Bullshit. I said, Yeah. 1077 01:01:36,030 --> 01:01:39,720 Dutch voice is a work of art. This is anybody be offended by 1078 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:39,990 this. 1079 01:01:40,170 --> 01:01:43,440 Adam Curry: This is completely bullshit. I don't believe this. 1080 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,620 Who said this? Give me Give me his name. I've already said I 1081 01:01:46,620 --> 01:01:51,660 wouldn't. I will call it but you have to do anything. You must. 1082 01:01:51,690 --> 01:01:56,610 You must you must repent. No, I don't think so. Why, what why 1083 01:01:56,820 --> 01:02:01,110 the old I did. Here's what I did. There was a Dutch producer 1084 01:02:01,110 --> 01:02:07,230 Hendrick. And he said, when you do a German voice whenever 1085 01:02:07,230 --> 01:02:11,400 German comes up, and you do a Nazi Schultes voice. Yeah, he 1086 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,760 says that is actually traumatizing to many Germans. 1087 01:02:14,850 --> 01:02:18,870 They've been trying to get away from that for decades. And so 1088 01:02:18,930 --> 01:02:21,570 mommy says, Oh, good. Just follow us. 1089 01:02:21,810 --> 01:02:25,470 John C Dvorak: That's like a suit. Yes. I have to assume so. 1090 01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:29,160 Adam Curry: Yeah. So I stopped doing that. But that's why 1091 01:02:29,460 --> 01:02:30,150 because that's your 1092 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,700 John C Dvorak: number of listeners. Let's go on the 1093 01:02:32,700 --> 01:02:37,920 statistical aspect of this. The number of German listeners we 1094 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,980 have that would be offended by that. I want to hear from them. 1095 01:02:41,490 --> 01:02:46,500 John, you have like five.org Yeah, Josh says me John 1096 01:02:46,500 --> 01:02:51,780 tavares.org. We have about five serious producers that have been 1097 01:02:51,810 --> 01:02:55,410 sir ignited producers that are from Germany that have helped us 1098 01:02:55,410 --> 01:02:59,520 over the years, including our friend and moon rose. I want to 1099 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,400 hear that they're offended by you doing that crazy German 1100 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:02,730 voice. 1101 01:03:02,759 --> 01:03:05,489 Adam Curry: I didn't say I didn't say offended. I said it's 1102 01:03:05,489 --> 01:03:09,629 triggering. Oh, traumatizing, okay. dramatizing triggering, 1103 01:03:09,629 --> 01:03:11,789 triggering, triggering. Okay, well 1104 01:03:11,820 --> 01:03:17,700 John C Dvorak: nine traumatizing 999 traumatizing to me and 1105 01:03:17,700 --> 01:03:20,280 triggering is pretty much the same thing. It's just a new 1106 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:21,600 version of the old word. 1107 01:03:22,860 --> 01:03:26,310 Adam Curry: Well, well you know what if they say it's absolutely 1108 01:03:26,310 --> 01:03:30,090 not true? Well, then we go down we're gonna go straight back 1109 01:03:30,090 --> 01:03:39,030 doing it obviously. Obviously Wait, here's my favorite one 1110 01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:53,160 remember some good times people anyway, don't know it all days 1111 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,830 of the show. I did not buckle but you know what? We don't 1112 01:03:55,830 --> 01:03:59,400 receive it. There's no here's what the here's the problem. The 1113 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:05,400 Dutch aren't donating there's no notes to read. That's the 1114 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,810 problem. They come in, you know, under under Associate Executive 1115 01:04:09,810 --> 01:04:12,390 producer level until the only sometimes. 1116 01:04:12,810 --> 01:04:16,050 John C Dvorak: Well they're having nothing but fun with 1117 01:04:16,050 --> 01:04:19,560 these parties that they're throwing. I know on behalf of no 1118 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:24,690 agenda. They are having a really stoned over there. Like Yeah, 1119 01:04:24,690 --> 01:04:29,910 Dad day, you know, even if the show folds, does. Party we got 1120 01:04:29,910 --> 01:04:34,260 parties. We got our own mailing list which by the way I advise I 1121 01:04:34,260 --> 01:04:38,310 know that union local lump number one in Michigan has a 1122 01:04:38,310 --> 01:04:42,690 pretty large mailing list of people that's a hot list so 1123 01:04:42,690 --> 01:04:45,510 heartless and so they can just mail to each other and and let's 1124 01:04:45,510 --> 01:04:47,610 get this Friday where we're going to do it. Yeah. 1125 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:52,620 Adam Curry: Awesome. Let's do some climate change. Please. I 1126 01:04:52,620 --> 01:04:55,440 need some climate change in my life because this I have a 1127 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,020 story's horrible. The stories are only just regional 1128 01:04:58,020 --> 01:05:04,260 headlines. Netherlands while in the Netherlands, it has leaked 1129 01:05:04,260 --> 01:05:08,400 out that the Netherlands is going to have new requirements 1130 01:05:08,430 --> 01:05:14,670 only two cows per field. So you have a whole field which let me 1131 01:05:14,670 --> 01:05:23,850 see this size of this field zero point 35 hectares. What is that 1132 01:05:23,850 --> 01:05:24,780 in acres? 1133 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,320 John C Dvorak: It's a budget double it up, it's about seven 1134 01:05:28,350 --> 01:05:31,110 about three quarters of an acre. It's not very big, 1135 01:05:31,500 --> 01:05:32,850 Adam Curry: but only two cows. 1136 01:05:35,370 --> 01:05:38,100 John C Dvorak: That's going to kowski clear that area. 1137 01:05:38,340 --> 01:05:42,900 Adam Curry: It by the way, it's not it's 0.8 acres. So it's 1138 01:05:44,130 --> 01:05:47,370 great to be able to have more than two cows on the acre. 1139 01:05:48,420 --> 01:05:51,600 John C Dvorak: I don't know how many cows could read let's here 1140 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:56,220 we go knowledge know, how many how many acres? Is it needed to 1141 01:05:56,460 --> 01:06:04,440 sustain one? How many cows let's go let's go how many cows can be 1142 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:10,740 since this grade. They don't do this on network TV at all. Oh, 1143 01:06:10,740 --> 01:06:12,600 many cows. How 1144 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,420 Adam Curry: many cows per acre is acceptable? How about that? 1145 01:06:16,230 --> 01:06:22,680 Okay, that okay. Well, this is interesting. According to chat, 1146 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,790 GPT, one to two cows per acre is acceptable. 1147 01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:30,330 John C Dvorak: I got right here. The general rule of thumb is one 1148 01:06:30,330 --> 01:06:32,070 to one one cow per acre. 1149 01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:35,400 Adam Curry: So so this is another spin up bull crap thing 1150 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,530 they're doing to us. We're thinking because we're not 1151 01:06:37,530 --> 01:06:42,480 farmers. We're thinking this is an outrage. But it's really not. 1152 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:42,660 You're 1153 01:06:42,660 --> 01:06:45,690 John C Dvorak: cramping and this cramped. It's too many. 1154 01:06:46,890 --> 01:06:49,680 Adam Curry: The official no agenda position now is that 1155 01:06:49,890 --> 01:06:52,320 there's too many cows per field. 1156 01:06:52,740 --> 01:06:55,920 John C Dvorak: A cow calf pair will typically require closer to 1157 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,410 two acres and well, the cow and a calf. 1158 01:06:58,589 --> 01:07:02,009 Adam Curry: I'm telling you, we're being spun up. I should 1159 01:07:02,009 --> 01:07:07,199 probably mention the story about the homeless veterans being 1160 01:07:07,199 --> 01:07:12,059 displaced by migrants in New York was an elaborate hoax. I'll 1161 01:07:12,059 --> 01:07:15,239 bet it was but we believed it we bought it very well. 1162 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:16,860 John C Dvorak: That's because it's believable. That's the 1163 01:07:16,860 --> 01:07:18,330 problem with a good hoax. 1164 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:22,080 Adam Curry: And yeah, it was now who did this? It's unclear who 1165 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,440 did this hoax. But to learn about the 1166 01:07:25,470 --> 01:07:27,060 John C Dvorak: cows about the homeless 1167 01:07:27,090 --> 01:07:30,000 Adam Curry: No, the cows the cows is not hooking to the cows 1168 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,750 is a reverse hoax. Is that gender jamman Too many cows it's 1169 01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:36,930 still a hoax. bullcrap. We're outraged by the wrong thing. 1170 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:43,320 That's what's so funny. Is that we should just fold man we 1171 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,470 should fold we're getting duped everywhere left and right 1172 01:07:46,650 --> 01:07:48,600 John C Dvorak: well that stinks because the duping is getting 1173 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,610 better and is getting better thank you internet 1174 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,140 Adam Curry: all right let's let's go to claim you 1175 01:07:55,140 --> 01:07:57,300 John C Dvorak: duping to occasionally Miss whether you 1176 01:07:57,300 --> 01:07:58,380 want to talk about climate change. I 1177 01:07:58,380 --> 01:08:03,390 Adam Curry: got a horrible five parter. Nice. I'm ready. I'm 1178 01:08:03,390 --> 01:08:03,660 ready. And 1179 01:08:03,660 --> 01:08:05,610 John C Dvorak: this is going to discuss turns the table on 1180 01:08:05,610 --> 01:08:11,970 everything this brings in a new idea. Oh. And it's based on 1181 01:08:11,970 --> 01:08:13,110 nothing but bull crap. 1182 01:08:13,140 --> 01:08:18,930 Adam Curry: Nice. Okay, and mind you this comes on the heels of 1183 01:08:18,930 --> 01:08:26,580 the U N? Was it the world the world world opera world media 1184 01:08:26,580 --> 01:08:30,960 rollout. One more time I'll stop the World Meteorological opera 1185 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:34,290 operation. The climate justice 1186 01:08:34,290 --> 01:08:36,270 John C Dvorak: and reparation part one now 1187 01:08:36,270 --> 01:08:38,910 Unknown: to northern California and the threat one community of 1188 01:08:38,910 --> 01:08:42,930 color faces because of rising sea levels. KQED climate 1189 01:08:42,930 --> 01:08:46,320 reporter as David Romero takes us to West Oakland in the San 1190 01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,830 Francisco Bay area. Those rising sea levels make residents 1191 01:08:49,830 --> 01:08:53,220 they're vulnerable to flooding and to toxins that have long 1192 01:08:53,220 --> 01:08:57,150 polluted surrounding areas and residency protecting them from 1193 01:08:57,150 --> 01:09:00,960 that threat, or what's known as climate justice is a form of 1194 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:01,890 reparations. 1195 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,180 Adam Curry: All of us Stopstopstop so first of all, 1196 01:09:06,630 --> 01:09:10,260 what is now the makeup of oak it was when I hear Oakland here in 1197 01:09:10,260 --> 01:09:13,350 Texas, I think that's poor blacks. 1198 01:09:15,330 --> 01:09:18,900 John C Dvorak: Couple of things. They're talking about West 1199 01:09:18,900 --> 01:09:23,040 Oakland. I'm very familiar with West Oakland. I've worked in 1200 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:28,470 West Oakland. There's a big BART station in West Oakland, which 1201 01:09:28,470 --> 01:09:31,200 they don't they will never say as Bart they're talking about as 1202 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,140 some sort of transit thing trying to screw the poor black 1203 01:09:34,140 --> 01:09:39,510 community. The West Oakland is mostly black. I don't know what 1204 01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:43,290 they mostly poor black. I think that's East Oakland. But it's 1205 01:09:43,290 --> 01:09:46,110 mostly black living in old Victorians, which are quite 1206 01:09:46,110 --> 01:09:50,040 lovely. By the way. Alumni even though they're rundown and this 1207 01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:53,910 place is ripe for gentrification in other word. That's 1208 01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:56,670 Adam Curry: my question. Is any part of Oakland gentrified? 1209 01:09:57,450 --> 01:09:58,920 John C Dvorak: Yeah, Old Town. 1210 01:09:59,130 --> 01:09:59,730 Unknown: Okay. 1211 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,960 John C Dvorak: But Oakland is resisted pretty well, because 1212 01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:10,410 it's really not much you can do. But this report this I can walk 1213 01:10:10,410 --> 01:10:14,280 from this house to what they're talking about. Almost. So you 1214 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,140 might take me all day, but I 1215 01:10:16,140 --> 01:10:18,420 Adam Curry: could get there. You could be good. Are you in line 1216 01:10:18,420 --> 01:10:19,530 for some reparations? 1217 01:10:19,980 --> 01:10:23,460 John C Dvorak: It's about, I'd say 10 miles from here. Oh, no, 1218 01:10:23,549 --> 01:10:25,469 Adam Curry: that's outside of the reparations zone. 1219 01:10:25,949 --> 01:10:32,039 John C Dvorak: So this, this story starts off talking about 1220 01:10:33,719 --> 01:10:38,759 rising sea levels is bullcrap. You said it again. 1221 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,070 Adam Curry: You said you were going to fold it. One more time 1222 01:10:41,070 --> 01:10:42,450 again. Oh, man, 1223 01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:45,480 John C Dvorak: but I can't help it because this report is from 1224 01:10:45,480 --> 01:10:49,830 top to bottom, a lie. And the rising sea levels in what? 1225 01:10:50,370 --> 01:10:54,810 There's water rising sea levels in West Oakland. This is the 1226 01:10:54,810 --> 01:10:58,950 craziest story I've ever heard, while Oakland is it is more or 1227 01:10:58,950 --> 01:11:02,280 less inland. There's no real docks there or anything. I mean, 1228 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:07,260 there's part of you could almost say that the where the where the 1229 01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,380 cargo containers come in. You could call that West Oakland, 1230 01:11:10,380 --> 01:11:15,810 but it's not. It's the inner channel. But no, this is bull, 1231 01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:21,420 and they're just okay. I get worked up just listening to this 1232 01:11:21,480 --> 01:11:24,270 nonsense. Play on which is the point of 1233 01:11:24,270 --> 01:11:26,940 Unknown: it. 1000s of people live in West Oakland, a bridge 1234 01:11:26,940 --> 01:11:30,810 away from San Francisco, boxed in by freeways a port in 1235 01:11:30,810 --> 01:11:34,500 numerous industries. Margaret Gordon shows me around the 1236 01:11:34,500 --> 01:11:36,630 northern edge of the neighborhood. So where were you 1237 01:11:36,630 --> 01:11:38,010 gonna go? Okay, we 1238 01:11:38,010 --> 01:11:39,450 will go over the overpass, 1239 01:11:39,750 --> 01:11:43,650 we pass charcoal gray and white condominiums about a half mile 1240 01:11:43,650 --> 01:11:48,210 from San Francisco Bay. As he's continued to rise, Gordon, who 1241 01:11:48,210 --> 01:11:51,240 founded the West Oakland environmental indicators project 1242 01:11:51,270 --> 01:11:54,060 foresees a looming disaster, 1243 01:11:54,570 --> 01:11:57,660 we'll be the first victims of a sea level rise. 1244 01:11:57,870 --> 01:12:01,080 And not only from surface flooding between these homes and 1245 01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:05,370 the bay, our hazardous sites like old army base contaminated 1246 01:12:05,370 --> 01:12:08,970 with petroleum and other chemicals. That contamination 1247 01:12:08,970 --> 01:12:13,200 can move around as water on the ground rises, 1248 01:12:13,230 --> 01:12:16,320 those toxic soils will be a hindrance to the community. 1249 01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,260 They're going to be surprises and they're going to be real 1250 01:12:19,290 --> 01:12:19,980 health risks. 1251 01:12:20,639 --> 01:12:23,369 Adam Curry: Well, you say this, but what about the storms of 1252 01:12:23,369 --> 01:12:24,689 1962? 1253 01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,770 John C Dvorak: Oh 9062 There may have been a flood Yeah, there 1254 01:12:28,770 --> 01:12:34,530 was now on flood the abandoned arm Oakland Army bases there. 1255 01:12:34,530 --> 01:12:39,420 Yes. It's an army bases. Not it's not like I will say there 1256 01:12:39,420 --> 01:12:44,310 are. And by the way, I was very aware of all the toxic crap that 1257 01:12:44,310 --> 01:12:46,350 was getting into the air because I was working for the air 1258 01:12:46,350 --> 01:12:50,700 pollution district for nearly a decade. Yes. And that areas, one 1259 01:12:50,700 --> 01:12:54,030 of the areas that I worked in, there's nothing that what 1260 01:12:54,030 --> 01:12:56,280 they're talking about is bullcrap. There's nothing going 1261 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,490 on out of that army base. If it was if you talked about the 1262 01:12:59,490 --> 01:13:03,720 Naval Air Station over in Alameda having toxic spills. 1263 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:08,340 Yes. tons. The Navy's always made a mess wherever they've 1264 01:13:08,340 --> 01:13:11,760 been. And they just leave stuff and then they they waltz out of 1265 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:17,340 their Hunter's Point. Same thing. Problem. Yes. East Oka 1266 01:13:17,340 --> 01:13:22,320 West Oakland, no. West Oakland no and this idea that it was the 1267 01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:26,070 blacks have been forced to move there. That's nonsense to there 1268 01:13:26,070 --> 01:13:30,930 was always a mixed ethnic area. For from the get go. And you can 1269 01:13:30,930 --> 01:13:34,680 look at good people should read the wiki page for West Oakland, 1270 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,560 California and just read the pages got a good history there. 1271 01:13:37,650 --> 01:13:42,630 There's none of this. There's no sea level threat. Anyway onward. 1272 01:13:42,750 --> 01:13:45,600 Unknown: Christina Hill directs the Institute for Urban and 1273 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:50,340 Regional Development at UC Berkeley, rising inland on top 1274 01:13:50,340 --> 01:13:52,410 of the land and underneath it, 1275 01:13:52,500 --> 01:13:56,220 the sea water actually comes under the land almost like it's 1276 01:13:56,250 --> 01:13:58,770 sticking its toe under the freshwater 1277 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:04,020 that sea water washed up where it can mix with contamination. 1278 01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:09,330 Oh, no pollution loosens. It can release poisonous gases in and 1279 01:14:09,330 --> 01:14:11,430 around sewer and water pipes. 1280 01:14:11,490 --> 01:14:15,210 The gas can enter buildings, workplaces, schools and homes. 1281 01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,870 Oh, I think we need to rebuild two cracks in the concrete slab 1282 01:14:18,870 --> 01:14:20,400 foundation gentrify across 1283 01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:24,450 West Oakland, there are more than 130 active toxic sites. 1284 01:14:24,810 --> 01:14:28,260 West Oakland grew up as an industrial powerhouse. So 1285 01:14:28,530 --> 01:14:30,660 Adam Curry: I'm going to call it right now. I'm going to call it 1286 01:14:30,660 --> 01:14:33,630 right now what's going on here? And I think you'll get a lot 1287 01:14:33,630 --> 01:14:39,000 more of the stories about that area. This is to run everybody 1288 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:43,560 out of town, tear it all down and completely build a house. 1289 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:47,100 cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap. The Reparatur land 1290 01:14:47,100 --> 01:14:49,410 John C Dvorak: this is the AC approach to life. This 1291 01:14:49,410 --> 01:14:53,760 Adam Curry: is JC actually Serrana Miss of Dogpatch he sent 1292 01:14:53,760 --> 01:15:00,210 me a great documentary about Chicago and Southside. It's 1293 01:15:00,210 --> 01:15:04,920 called the area. And this is exactly what it is. Except it's 1294 01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:09,150 different in mo faxes onto this. Yeah, in some cases they say, 1295 01:15:09,150 --> 01:15:12,120 oh, it's migrants are coming in, in other cases that just let all 1296 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,690 the drugs go rampant. And then when the areas completely bombed 1297 01:15:15,690 --> 01:15:21,270 out, exactly, or we doing a Black Lives Matter demonstration 1298 01:15:21,270 --> 01:15:25,260 burned down Minneapolis. And then so now it's climate change. 1299 01:15:25,410 --> 01:15:28,860 That's what's called mom. Oh, poisonous gas is gonna kill 1300 01:15:28,860 --> 01:15:32,040 everybody. We're gonna give you some reparations for leaving, 1301 01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,800 leaving. That's what's going on here. 1302 01:15:34,830 --> 01:15:38,280 Unknown: West Oakland grew up as an industrial powerhouse some 1303 01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:42,540 150 years ago when the Transcontinental Railroad ended 1304 01:15:42,540 --> 01:15:46,350 its long journey here. Over time, shipbuilding, metal 1305 01:15:46,350 --> 01:15:50,190 foundries, auto yards, and dry cleaners filled this corner of 1306 01:15:50,190 --> 01:15:53,730 Oakland dry clean, racist home running policies like red. 1307 01:15:54,750 --> 01:15:57,720 Adam Curry: S very odd. Is that a racial thing? It's like 1308 01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:02,040 Chinese what I'm saying Why Why throw into dry cleaners? I don't 1309 01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:02,760 understand early 1310 01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,880 John C Dvorak: dry cleaners until I don't know, the 50s or 1311 01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:11,910 60s that used to use a lot of carbon floor chemicals instead 1312 01:16:11,910 --> 01:16:15,270 of a dump in the backyard, I guess I don't know, overtime 1313 01:16:15,300 --> 01:16:17,760 evaporated by now. But that's beside the point, 1314 01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,060 Unknown: shipbuilding, metal foundries, auto yards and dry 1315 01:16:21,060 --> 01:16:24,750 cleaners filled this corner of Oakland. It's a clue John, it's 1316 01:16:24,750 --> 01:16:28,470 a clue. Racist home lending policies like redlining 1317 01:16:28,500 --> 01:16:31,170 relegated black people to this neighborhood. 1318 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,410 Adam Curry: Ah, they got screwed. Oh, I get it. We're 1319 01:16:34,410 --> 01:16:37,530 going to give you some reparations so you can leave 1320 01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:43,650 that toxic infested area from the knife to stay there? Yep. 1321 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:48,270 It's coming through the cracks in the foundation. That's right. 1322 01:16:48,300 --> 01:16:51,210 This is great. What a fabulous report. Can I go to the next 1323 01:16:51,300 --> 01:16:53,310 clip? I'm loving this. I'm loving it. 1324 01:16:53,340 --> 01:16:58,050 Unknown: It is a lesson in discrimination and disregard and 1325 01:16:58,050 --> 01:17:02,370 diminishment of a population that is helping build the city. 1326 01:17:02,610 --> 01:17:06,300 Dorothy Lazar grew up in West Oakland she retired two years 1327 01:17:06,300 --> 01:17:09,930 ago as the managing librarian of the Oakland History Center. 1328 01:17:10,530 --> 01:17:14,340 Lazard said the policy of eminent domain decimated black 1329 01:17:14,340 --> 01:17:17,820 neighborhoods and business districts, allowing governments 1330 01:17:17,820 --> 01:17:20,190 to seize land and destroy now when 1331 01:17:20,190 --> 01:17:22,560 Adam Curry: they say decimated, do you think just 10% what the 1332 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:23,490 word really means? 1333 01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,070 John C Dvorak: They mean nine. We're the only ones that do 1334 01:17:26,070 --> 01:17:26,700 that. Because 1335 01:17:26,700 --> 01:17:30,300 Unknown: ARD said the policy of eminent domain decimated black 1336 01:17:30,300 --> 01:17:34,440 neighborhoods and abysmal crap. Allowing governments to seize 1337 01:17:34,440 --> 01:17:38,580 land and destroy homes to build freeways and a commuter train 1338 01:17:38,580 --> 01:17:39,090 line. 1339 01:17:39,180 --> 01:17:44,100 Blaming the imminent warning is to me kind of commensurate to 1340 01:17:44,130 --> 01:17:49,440 colonialism, you know, like working this as our dumping 1341 01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:53,730 ground. Because we've already devalue this space. 1342 01:17:53,820 --> 01:17:55,680 Lazard says racist policies 1343 01:17:56,040 --> 01:18:01,920 John C Dvorak: was residents. They put a BART station, which 1344 01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:06,270 is the convenient Bay Area Rapid Transit. The BART station in the 1345 01:18:06,270 --> 01:18:09,900 middle of West Oakland is called the West Oakland BART station. 1346 01:18:10,530 --> 01:18:12,870 And it which is the most convenient way for anyone in 1347 01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:16,410 that area to get to San Francisco or, or downtown 1348 01:18:16,410 --> 01:18:21,840 Oakland or beyond. It's kind of a favor to the community, and 1349 01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:23,130 now they're complaining. 1350 01:18:24,900 --> 01:18:26,670 Adam Curry: This is a great report. 1351 01:18:27,059 --> 01:18:30,839 Unknown: You know, it's kind of like we can use this as our 1352 01:18:30,869 --> 01:18:35,609 dumping ground because we've already devalue this space. 1353 01:18:35,700 --> 01:18:39,420 Lazard says racist policies exposed residents to life 1354 01:18:39,420 --> 01:18:43,350 threatening environmental pollution without their consent. 1355 01:18:43,410 --> 01:18:47,460 Those impulses are still there. What's this? 1356 01:18:47,670 --> 01:18:51,360 Adam Curry: Oh, those him wow. Oh, I gotta hear that again. So 1357 01:18:51,660 --> 01:18:54,540 I just hear this again, this was fantastic value. 1358 01:18:54,570 --> 01:18:58,260 Unknown: This space, Lazard says racist policies exposed 1359 01:18:58,260 --> 01:19:02,370 residents to life threatening environmental pollution without 1360 01:19:02,370 --> 01:19:03,480 their consent. 1361 01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:08,460 Adam Curry: Okay, so there was a bunch of racists who didn't ask 1362 01:19:08,460 --> 01:19:12,810 for their consent. I mean, what kind of report there's racist 1363 01:19:12,810 --> 01:19:15,330 and they were racist in the head of black people and they didn't 1364 01:19:15,330 --> 01:19:17,190 ask for their consent to be racist. 1365 01:19:17,310 --> 01:19:20,640 Unknown: Lazard says racist policies exposed residents to 1366 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,960 life threatening environmental pollution without their consent 1367 01:19:25,019 --> 01:19:28,019 those impulses are still there 1368 01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:29,640 Adam Curry: those inputs 1369 01:19:31,650 --> 01:19:34,110 John C Dvorak: they put them into an era that was 1370 01:19:34,110 --> 01:19:38,940 contaminated which is not without telling them 1371 01:19:38,970 --> 01:19:41,940 Adam Curry: but those impulses are still there means the racist 1372 01:19:41,940 --> 01:19:45,930 was there the racial the black, man that's That's right. That's 1373 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:50,190 all you that's all you do, you racist Californians. Wow. I 1374 01:19:50,190 --> 01:19:53,220 can't believe you're doing that. Do they pin the pin the tail on 1375 01:19:53,220 --> 01:19:54,840 this donkey who did this? 1376 01:19:56,820 --> 01:19:59,010 John C Dvorak: Well, no, they don't go that way. They go the 1377 01:19:59,010 --> 01:20:03,300 other way. We Just as they are when the last clip Yeah, they go 1378 01:20:03,300 --> 01:20:07,230 the other way and this was this is the eye roller clip of the 1379 01:20:07,230 --> 01:20:07,650 group 1380 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,200 Unknown: Margaret Gordon sits on a park bench in front of her 1381 01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:14,310 apartment as semi trucks crawl the street and a commuter train 1382 01:20:14,310 --> 01:20:19,140 zips by. She tells me climate justice must mean reparations. 1383 01:20:20,010 --> 01:20:23,730 The reparation movement is a next level of civil rights. 1384 01:20:23,850 --> 01:20:27,480 For Gordon reparations mean more than payment to the descendants 1385 01:20:27,510 --> 01:20:31,650 of slaves. They mean actions that restore consent to the 1386 01:20:31,650 --> 01:20:36,060 community like cleaning up toxic sites, economic opportunities 1387 01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:39,780 and power and planning decisions about climate resilience. 1388 01:20:39,870 --> 01:20:43,650 We will have long standing sustainability, I will know that 1389 01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:47,610 that's going to be housing for my my children, grandchildren, 1390 01:20:47,610 --> 01:20:48,810 so it'll be a job for them. 1391 01:20:49,590 --> 01:20:54,750 Climate change and reparations in terms of a response to the 1392 01:20:54,750 --> 01:20:57,300 history of racial injustice have the same roots 1393 01:20:57,480 --> 01:21:00,600 eludes me. Taiwo is an associate professor at Georgetown 1394 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,290 University. He's the author of the book reconsidering 1395 01:21:04,290 --> 01:21:07,830 reparations with a chapter on climate reparations. 1396 01:21:07,890 --> 01:21:11,280 Even if you didn't buy the historical story about why 1397 01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:15,390 reparations and climate crisis there is a straightforward 1398 01:21:15,390 --> 01:21:19,740 practical story of if you want to actually change who faces 1399 01:21:19,740 --> 01:21:23,160 what level of depth disease and displacement, this is something 1400 01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:24,630 that you should pay attention to. 1401 01:21:24,900 --> 01:21:28,380 He says climate justice and reparations are the same 1402 01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:29,340 project. 1403 01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,580 Adam Curry: Oh, in you know, I'm going to agree with this report 1404 01:21:32,580 --> 01:21:36,390 because I feel that the black family Obama they need to be 1405 01:21:36,390 --> 01:21:42,270 compensated because they were forced to buy a mansion right on 1406 01:21:42,270 --> 01:21:45,960 the shore of Nantucket there and and they were forced to do that 1407 01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:49,470 it's totally racist. They need reparations so that they can 1408 01:21:49,470 --> 01:21:50,430 move away from their 1409 01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,500 John C Dvorak: token you believe they're trying to make this 1410 01:21:55,500 --> 01:22:00,540 association now with climate change. Climate Justice, justice 1411 01:22:00,540 --> 01:22:04,860 and reparations all the same comes from the same roots. Of 1412 01:22:04,860 --> 01:22:07,770 course, are they trying to do here besides steel this property 1413 01:22:07,770 --> 01:22:10,800 like you mentioned earlier? Yeah, that's it this is this is 1414 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,870 now completely nuts. 1415 01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,350 Adam Curry: I gotta, I gotta hand I should probably go back 1416 01:22:16,350 --> 01:22:19,890 and listen to some of these organizations who are doing this 1417 01:22:20,670 --> 01:22:24,570 and look at them and see who they are. Because clearly, 1418 01:22:24,570 --> 01:22:27,750 there's people who really believe in this I mean, that 1419 01:22:27,780 --> 01:22:31,980 people people have been influenced and and SIOP from all 1420 01:22:31,980 --> 01:22:34,980 directions. And so of course, they truly believe that it's 1421 01:22:34,980 --> 01:22:38,850 racist. That people who are in these organizations trying to 1422 01:22:38,850 --> 01:22:42,570 helmet changes racist climate change by itself is racist, 1423 01:22:42,660 --> 01:22:46,800 because it was industrial. white nationalists and colonialist who 1424 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:47,370 did this 1425 01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:48,930 John C Dvorak: white supremacists. 1426 01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:52,290 Adam Curry: Oh man, I got a great clip from Elon on that and 1427 01:22:52,290 --> 01:22:57,360 I want to play this Alright, here it is. This is still from 1428 01:22:57,390 --> 01:23:01,680 that never I couldn't find a full interview with Elon the 1429 01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:05,160 full thing. It's all chopped up in little bits. Thanks, CNBC. 1430 01:23:05,460 --> 01:23:08,190 John C Dvorak: No, I need that so I can do my normal edit. 1431 01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,890 Adam Curry: So here he is. And what's he's very slick what he's 1432 01:23:13,890 --> 01:23:21,240 doing here because he's, he's, it's almost like he is the when 1433 01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:23,910 you blow your nose, it's like it's like a clown honk 1434 01:23:23,910 --> 01:23:25,950 sometimes, like a comedian. 1435 01:23:26,519 --> 01:23:28,139 John C Dvorak: Like why is always saying how can you make 1436 01:23:28,139 --> 01:23:29,969 all that noise? You're like 1437 01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:34,380 Adam Curry: a bird flu infested Canadian goose is flying or just 1438 01:23:34,410 --> 01:23:35,550 infesting us all. 1439 01:23:36,780 --> 01:23:38,940 John C Dvorak: Canadian goes bird flu. Yeah. 1440 01:23:40,830 --> 01:23:44,520 Adam Curry: So what he does here, it's what do we have a 1441 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:48,420 dangle off? He's a dangle up. He's dangle opping. Because what 1442 01:23:48,420 --> 01:23:51,420 he's doing here is he's saying, Look at me, I speak the truth. 1443 01:23:51,420 --> 01:23:54,660 I'm not afraid to speak the truth. But at the same time, he 1444 01:23:54,660 --> 01:24:00,000 justifies the entire existence of white nationalism. Listen to 1445 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:04,440 this. But I mean, when you when you when you 1446 01:24:04,440 --> 01:24:07,530 Unknown: link to somebody who's talking about the guy who killed 1447 01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:12,960 children in a mall, and now in Texas, you say something like it 1448 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,230 might be a bad sign up. I'm not quite sure what you meant, but 1449 01:24:19,770 --> 01:24:30,690 in that particular case, there was a somehow that's not not 1450 01:24:30,690 --> 01:24:36,930 that the jury killed, but the it was, I think, incorrectly 1451 01:24:36,930 --> 01:24:38,700 ascribed to be a white supremacist 1452 01:24:38,730 --> 01:24:40,770 Adam Curry: action. I'm sorry, it's even worse. It's white 1453 01:24:40,770 --> 01:24:44,130 supremacists negates white supremacists, that is that he's 1454 01:24:44,130 --> 01:24:45,930 going to justify who killed but 1455 01:24:46,170 --> 01:24:49,650 Unknown: the it was, I think incorrectly ascribed via white 1456 01:24:49,650 --> 01:24:55,710 supremacist action. And the evidence for that was some 1457 01:24:55,740 --> 01:24:58,830 obscure Russian website that nobody's ever heard of that had 1458 01:24:58,830 --> 01:25:06,450 no followers. And the company that found this is belling cat 1459 01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,270 right, adored Bella cat does psyops 1460 01:25:09,330 --> 01:25:11,250 right. I couldn't 1461 01:25:11,250 --> 01:25:13,530 Adam Curry: really even follow exactly what it was you were 1462 01:25:13,530 --> 01:25:17,100 trying to express there are you stupid CNBC guy? Are you truly 1463 01:25:17,100 --> 01:25:18,510 that stupid? So that's 1464 01:25:18,570 --> 01:25:21,450 Unknown: why I was curious, but I'm saying I thought this the 1465 01:25:21,480 --> 01:25:26,310 ascribing it to white supremacy was bullshit. Okay. And and that 1466 01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:30,600 the information for that came from an obscure Russian website 1467 01:25:30,690 --> 01:25:34,350 and was somehow magically found by Bellingcat, which is a 1468 01:25:34,350 --> 01:25:36,210 company that does Psyops 1469 01:25:37,110 --> 01:25:39,930 and there's no proof by the way that he was not. 1470 01:25:40,980 --> 01:25:45,030 There's no, I wouldn't say that there's no proof that he is. And 1471 01:25:45,030 --> 01:25:46,950 that's a debate you want to get into on Twitter. 1472 01:25:47,610 --> 01:25:50,760 Yes. Because we should not be ascribing things to white 1473 01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:53,610 supremacy, if they're if it's false. Okay. 1474 01:25:54,330 --> 01:25:57,900 Adam Curry: So, at first, I kind of thought, yeah, like, go Elon, 1475 01:25:57,900 --> 01:26:01,410 yeah, throwing Bellingcat under the bus. Yeah, I totally agree 1476 01:26:01,410 --> 01:26:04,740 with that. But then I realized what he's doing. He is he's, 1477 01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:09,840 he's, in essence, saying white supremacy is real. White 1478 01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:14,430 supremacy is alive in America. And you can put that that brown 1479 01:26:14,430 --> 01:26:19,320 man into white supremacy. It's really it's a dangle up. It's 1480 01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:20,910 truly subversive. It's very 1481 01:26:21,420 --> 01:26:23,640 John C Dvorak: interesting, very come up with that thesis. 1482 01:26:24,540 --> 01:26:29,040 Adam Curry: Very evil, very evil, but what Elon Musk is 1483 01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:30,270 doing here. The white 1484 01:26:30,270 --> 01:26:33,210 John C Dvorak: supremacy, though that he knows he's doing Oh, 1485 01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:33,930 yes, that's 1486 01:26:33,930 --> 01:26:36,840 Adam Curry: all he does. That's that's his whole that's his 1487 01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:42,570 whole raison d'etre. I think I think that's that is what this 1488 01:26:42,570 --> 01:26:45,810 guy does. In this case. That's his whole Twitter thing. 1489 01:26:45,839 --> 01:26:50,009 John C Dvorak: Well, you know, he is from South Africa. There, 1490 01:26:50,639 --> 01:26:53,309 you haven't been there but you know, the Dutch that are there. 1491 01:26:53,309 --> 01:26:56,429 Yes. Yeah, they're a bunch of white supremacist. 1492 01:26:56,490 --> 01:27:00,540 Adam Curry: The white supremacist are Biden, Ursula, 1493 01:27:00,570 --> 01:27:05,160 queen, Ursula, Prince Charles, these are the it has nothing to 1494 01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:08,550 do with skin color. Those of the true whites Supreme, the 1495 01:27:08,550 --> 01:27:12,540 Supreme, that's what this is the supreme who come from white 1496 01:27:12,540 --> 01:27:16,770 Europe. And there were there were people in that's where we 1497 01:27:16,770 --> 01:27:20,700 get the Venetian White from is brown people in Europe who are 1498 01:27:20,700 --> 01:27:23,790 still part of white supremacy and they powdered themselves up 1499 01:27:23,790 --> 01:27:27,630 to be white, the supreme the people who still kind of run the 1500 01:27:27,630 --> 01:27:28,260 world, 1501 01:27:28,650 --> 01:27:30,390 John C Dvorak: you know, talking about the band 1502 01:27:31,410 --> 01:27:36,420 Adam Curry: knows average white band you confused? I do have a 1503 01:27:36,420 --> 01:27:40,680 question for you. As as you mentioned, you work for the for 1504 01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:44,820 the air pollution, brigade, the government, the gut, the 1505 01:27:44,820 --> 01:27:50,040 government. And you are a chemist by trade so I can ask 1506 01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:53,850 you a question about this rather short report from Scandinavia, 1507 01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:54,360 the federal 1508 01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,970 Unknown: government is investigating so called Forever 1509 01:27:56,970 --> 01:28:01,290 chemicals in Canada, a growing body of evidence points to toxic 1510 01:28:01,290 --> 01:28:05,280 chemicals on our clothes making their way into our bodies. The 1511 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,700 question is how much harm they potentially are doing. As the 1512 01:28:08,700 --> 01:28:11,610 CBC is David certain reports Ottawa wants to regulate the 1513 01:28:11,610 --> 01:28:12,900 products linked to them. 1514 01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,860 Health Canada and Environment Canada are reviewing the science 1515 01:28:16,860 --> 01:28:21,330 behind forever chemicals per and poly floral alkyl substances or 1516 01:28:21,330 --> 01:28:24,060 P bass, a group of chemicals that hang around in the 1517 01:28:24,060 --> 01:28:27,570 environment for a long time, exposure has been linked to 1518 01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:32,310 liver damage and breast cancer. Still, these chemicals are quite 1519 01:28:32,310 --> 01:28:36,510 common in clothing, compostable takeout containers, and many 1520 01:28:36,510 --> 01:28:39,150 other consumer items. According to the government's latest 1521 01:28:39,150 --> 01:28:42,390 Science Review, tests show pee fast in the blood of many 1522 01:28:42,390 --> 01:28:46,950 Canadians and even more elevated levels among people in northern 1523 01:28:46,950 --> 01:28:49,890 indigenous communities. The government wants to consult more 1524 01:28:49,890 --> 01:28:53,190 Canadians but with this scientific review it's putting 1525 01:28:53,220 --> 01:28:56,970 industry on notice saying intends to regulate forever 1526 01:28:56,970 --> 01:28:57,750 chemicals. 1527 01:28:58,470 --> 01:29:02,220 Adam Curry: So they're calling this forever chemicals which I 1528 01:29:02,220 --> 01:29:09,090 love as a term. Nice it's It's pee fast which is poly floral 1529 01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:10,410 floral Cole 1530 01:29:10,710 --> 01:29:13,620 John C Dvorak: site away most chemicals are forever chemicals 1531 01:29:13,620 --> 01:29:14,040 but 1532 01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:17,310 Adam Curry: yeah, well this. This is why I come to you hat in 1533 01:29:17,310 --> 01:29:21,210 hand asking what is what is the deal with these poly Flora like 1534 01:29:21,210 --> 01:29:26,130 CO flora. Floral Flora Cole? How come? I can't pronounce this? 1535 01:29:26,610 --> 01:29:28,950 John C Dvorak: That's I don't know if you're coming to me for 1536 01:29:28,950 --> 01:29:30,870 that. I don't know why you can't pronounce it. 1537 01:29:31,050 --> 01:29:33,990 Adam Curry: What is it and why is it in our clothes? 1538 01:29:34,170 --> 01:29:36,900 John C Dvorak: They're bad. Well, do you remember that? 1539 01:29:36,930 --> 01:29:41,760 About eight years ago on this show? We talked about the we 1540 01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:47,220 talked about you using old detergents downy fabric 1541 01:29:47,220 --> 01:29:51,390 softeners. Yes. And then everybody jumped all over so you 1542 01:29:51,390 --> 01:29:54,780 can't do that don't use these things are going to kill you. 1543 01:29:54,780 --> 01:29:58,530 Adam Curry: They wound up using some nuts in a bath. Yeah, 1544 01:29:58,890 --> 01:30:01,860 John C Dvorak: I know I owe you Yeah, I use the ball. So 1545 01:30:01,860 --> 01:30:04,500 Adam Curry: now it's soap nuts in the bag and tennis balls in 1546 01:30:04,500 --> 01:30:09,000 the dryer. Tennis balls, tennis balls in the dryer. Yeah. And 1547 01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,160 does the job. Guess how long that lasted? 1548 01:30:12,210 --> 01:30:15,060 John C Dvorak: Well, well, it was wishes you met Tina. 1549 01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:17,760 Adam Curry: Well, no, she did. She's all in on the tennis 1550 01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,240 balls. We still use the tennis balls. But I think she slips in 1551 01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:25,170 a sheet or too little softener sheet to make it smell fresh. 1552 01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,140 John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, that's the stuff that we're 1553 01:30:28,140 --> 01:30:32,460 talking about. And it's used for the for that same reason. It's 1554 01:30:32,460 --> 01:30:35,070 like it these things, these weird chemicals. I don't even 1555 01:30:35,070 --> 01:30:38,700 know how they develop them. But they use into fabrics that 1556 01:30:39,150 --> 01:30:42,030 modern fabrics seem to take a liking to him and say, Yeah, you 1557 01:30:42,030 --> 01:30:45,480 know, you put that mix that with me, and I'm gonna be soft, I'm 1558 01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:49,350 gonna feel a lot more expensive than I really am anyone who's 1559 01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:54,840 owned a cashmere sweater, and tried to find some that says 1560 01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:58,590 Nice. That may with some other fabric. Sometimes you do. And 1561 01:30:58,590 --> 01:31:01,950 that's because it's been treated. And so these guys are 1562 01:31:01,950 --> 01:31:05,310 like, Oh, well, you know, this is not good for the body. It's 1563 01:31:05,310 --> 01:31:08,910 probably not good for your liver. It's probably not I'm 1564 01:31:08,970 --> 01:31:13,260 probably in agreement with most of these these assertions, 1565 01:31:13,380 --> 01:31:17,130 Adam Curry: correct. But whenever I hear a cool marketing 1566 01:31:17,130 --> 01:31:21,660 phrase, like forever chemicals, and they're also racist, because 1567 01:31:21,690 --> 01:31:24,300 Oh, no, it hurts indigenous people more I don't by the way I 1568 01:31:24,300 --> 01:31:27,810 that I don't get well because because there's something behind 1569 01:31:27,810 --> 01:31:29,070 us this coolness. Why? 1570 01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:31,560 John C Dvorak: Yes, there's always something behind it. And 1571 01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,350 it is a cool phrase. You're right forever. Chemicals. Great. 1572 01:31:34,380 --> 01:31:36,330 Adam Curry: It's an app. It's an app. 1573 01:31:36,420 --> 01:31:37,410 Unknown: It bet probably. 1574 01:31:39,480 --> 01:31:41,400 John C Dvorak: Oh, agenda your ops show. 1575 01:31:44,010 --> 01:31:46,590 Adam Curry: Oh, that's Hey, everybody. Welcome to the ops 1576 01:31:46,590 --> 01:31:54,630 Show Up Show Up Show. Andrew Sullivan, the OG gay blogger. 1577 01:31:55,260 --> 01:31:56,280 John C Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah. 1578 01:31:56,309 --> 01:31:58,829 Adam Curry: We're famous wrote quite the substack. 1579 01:31:59,639 --> 01:32:01,289 John C Dvorak: Did you Did he now? Oh, he 1580 01:32:01,290 --> 01:32:05,820 Adam Curry: did. Ki dove right into the the the queer 1581 01:32:05,820 --> 01:32:06,810 theorists. 1582 01:32:07,140 --> 01:32:10,380 John C Dvorak: And he's Is he is he? I guess he knows. He says. 1583 01:32:10,740 --> 01:32:13,770 Adam Curry: Of course. He's against it. He finally what 1584 01:32:13,770 --> 01:32:17,310 we've been saying is that gay and lesbians are under severe 1585 01:32:17,310 --> 01:32:20,280 attack. They're being erased because they're cysts that yes, 1586 01:32:20,370 --> 01:32:25,230 they are being erased. He wrote, I must have received from 15 1587 01:32:25,230 --> 01:32:26,070 different people. 1588 01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:27,480 John C Dvorak: I didn't get it once. 1589 01:32:27,990 --> 01:32:29,010 Adam Curry: Well, you know, 1590 01:32:29,130 --> 01:32:31,230 John C Dvorak: let's write your date. This is your beat. This is 1591 01:32:31,469 --> 01:32:33,539 Adam Curry: just my that's my beat everybody 1592 01:32:33,570 --> 01:32:35,070 John C Dvorak: the trans man. 1593 01:32:38,700 --> 01:32:40,530 Adam Curry: I'm gonna go on Glenn Beck and say hey, Glenn, 1594 01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:45,150 just so you know, I'm now the trans man. I'm going Tuesday. By 1595 01:32:45,150 --> 01:32:49,500 the way it should be fun. Although just as an aside, Tina 1596 01:32:49,500 --> 01:32:52,680 was watching my previous appearance on back and she 1597 01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:57,360 noticed something that I forgot to bring up but bothers me a 1598 01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:02,730 lot. The setting for him is a table a round table in a giant 1599 01:33:02,730 --> 01:33:05,790 studio. It really is a big studio. It's all empty. They got 1600 01:33:05,820 --> 01:33:09,660 you know, some lights at the very edges. effect it looks 1601 01:33:09,660 --> 01:33:12,210 great. Looks great. And he's got the hang and microphones and 1602 01:33:12,210 --> 01:33:17,100 everything almost like I should be you know, like, Oh, what the 1603 01:33:17,100 --> 01:33:17,280 I 1604 01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:19,020 John C Dvorak: don't like to hang the microphones he had that 1605 01:33:19,020 --> 01:33:21,030 when he had Rodriguez or whatever that guy's name was 1606 01:33:21,030 --> 01:33:23,970 like Mike was he like slowly twisting? It was like, oh, 1607 01:33:23,970 --> 01:33:25,170 Senator diamond. Like 1608 01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,090 Adam Curry: I actually in my first and my first appearance. I 1609 01:33:27,090 --> 01:33:31,290 actually hit it by accident with my hand. It was weird. It was it 1610 01:33:31,290 --> 01:33:34,950 was swinging back and forth. He has so the end there's two 1611 01:33:34,950 --> 01:33:38,910 chairs. The guest chair is lower than his 1612 01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,190 John C Dvorak: debt. This is an old TV trick. 1613 01:33:41,220 --> 01:33:44,370 Adam Curry: I know. But I hate it. And I want to say I can I 1614 01:33:44,370 --> 01:33:47,910 have a phonebook. Glenn, I'm gonna ask him for that. It's not 1615 01:33:47,910 --> 01:33:51,600 cool. It isn't old. And I think he probably does that on 1616 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:55,170 purpose. It seems like he would like TV guy. Yeah, really? Yeah. 1617 01:33:55,770 --> 01:33:58,170 This is the Johnny Carson. Johnny Carson started that I 1618 01:33:58,170 --> 01:33:58,410 think 1619 01:33:58,440 --> 01:34:01,290 John C Dvorak: I think Johnny Carson started Yeah. Yeah. 1620 01:34:02,070 --> 01:34:04,770 Adam Curry: It's annoying. And I'm six five and I'm gonna sit 1621 01:34:04,770 --> 01:34:05,910 there like a little boy 1622 01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:08,850 John C Dvorak: like a little boy. Yeah. At the table. You can 1623 01:34:08,850 --> 01:34:09,810 ask him a piece. 1624 01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:15,090 Adam Curry: So Andrew Sullivan, he the unload is a great piece 1625 01:34:15,090 --> 01:34:20,010 it's in the show notes. And he what he says is to be homosexual 1626 01:34:20,670 --> 01:34:24,090 is in contrast is meant to be attracted to same sex gays and 1627 01:34:24,090 --> 01:34:26,940 lesbians run the gamut of tastes politics, backgrounds, 1628 01:34:26,940 --> 01:34:29,940 religions, some are conservative some radical some indifferent 1629 01:34:29,940 --> 01:34:33,240 some gays are queers, but most aren't and the queers now run 1630 01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:36,180 what was once the gay rights movement for a longer piercing 1631 01:34:36,180 --> 01:34:38,850 reflect on the takeover read, somebody has some reference 1632 01:34:38,850 --> 01:34:43,170 here. But he says unlike the gays and lesbians who definitely 1633 01:34:43,170 --> 01:34:48,720 fought a fight in the United States, and and came out okay. 1634 01:34:49,500 --> 01:34:54,240 We don't We it's it's more legal in America to have same sex 1635 01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:57,780 marriage than it is in most countries in Europe. It's more 1636 01:34:57,780 --> 01:35:01,170 accepted even the more accepted in the net Dylan's got spit on 1637 01:35:01,170 --> 01:35:05,520 by the Moroccans if you same sex holding hands in the street. But 1638 01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,550 then he says the queers up the ante and did something we gaze 1639 01:35:08,550 --> 01:35:13,290 never did. They targeted children. If they could get into 1640 01:35:13,290 --> 01:35:16,530 kids minds, bodies and souls from the very beginning of their 1641 01:35:16,530 --> 01:35:20,460 lives, they could abolish the sex binary from the ground up. 1642 01:35:21,060 --> 01:35:24,870 And so they got a pliant woke educational establishment to 1643 01:35:24,870 --> 01:35:29,340 reprogram children from the very start telling toddlers that any 1644 01:35:29,340 --> 01:35:31,770 single one of them could be living in the wrong body. 1645 01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:36,330 Therefore, before they could even spell kindergarteners were 1646 01:35:36,330 --> 01:35:39,390 told to pick a pronoun there by a sex as soon as they arrived, 1647 01:35:39,540 --> 01:35:42,900 endless kitty books reiterated the queer theory mantra about 1648 01:35:42,900 --> 01:35:45,870 gender, you can be a girl or a boy or both, or neither or 1649 01:35:45,870 --> 01:35:49,410 something else entirely. And if the sex the child chose did not 1650 01:35:49,410 --> 01:35:52,230 match their physical body, they were told they could just change 1651 01:35:52,230 --> 01:35:55,140 it and change it back if they needed to no questions asked 1652 01:35:55,140 --> 01:35:58,860 fun. If a boy said he was a girl or vice versa. It wasn't fact 1653 01:35:58,890 --> 01:36:02,460 unethical to ask any further questions from now on. He was a 1654 01:36:02,460 --> 01:36:05,880 girl parents a problem to overcome. And that's just an 1655 01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:09,870 excerpt. There's a very, very good piece very thoughtful. And 1656 01:36:09,870 --> 01:36:15,420 I'm glad that we now see a leader of gay America. Unlike 1657 01:36:15,420 --> 01:36:19,110 Kara Swisher who should be with Andrew Sullivan on this in 1658 01:36:19,530 --> 01:36:22,140 John C Dvorak: 105% 1659 01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:27,990 Adam Curry: You saved yourself wow. I triggered 100% meme in 1660 01:36:27,990 --> 01:36:29,940 you just by saying Kara Swisher 1661 01:36:30,030 --> 01:36:34,590 John C Dvorak: in I said 105 Guys Kritis correct. And it's I 1662 01:36:34,590 --> 01:36:37,050 have to read this piece. I'm sure it's right on the money. 1663 01:36:37,050 --> 01:36:38,490 He's always been a good run. 1664 01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:43,470 Adam Curry: And, and it it's really, it's mind boggling, but 1665 01:36:43,740 --> 01:36:44,250 it's, 1666 01:36:44,700 --> 01:36:48,930 John C Dvorak: you know, it's up to him and his his compadres to 1667 01:36:48,930 --> 01:36:51,840 do to address this problem. There's nothing I mean, we 1668 01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:55,020 bitched and moaned just generally speaking, but we can't 1669 01:36:55,020 --> 01:36:59,490 really bring it home like, like, like people in the community 1670 01:36:59,490 --> 01:37:03,570 can. And it's, it's like, it's like Muslim radicals. I mean, 1671 01:37:03,570 --> 01:37:07,710 it's the Muslims that have to bring them to justice, not as 1672 01:37:07,710 --> 01:37:08,310 right and 1673 01:37:08,310 --> 01:37:11,730 Adam Curry: so and let's just start by eradicating things as 1674 01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:18,240 the community. LGBTQ is not the community. It's a brand. And 1675 01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:23,130 it's all about the Q and the B, the B, even just by the mere 1676 01:37:23,130 --> 01:37:26,820 nature that B is in that lineup. We'll get rid of the B stands 1677 01:37:26,820 --> 01:37:31,890 for bisexual by definition means that this t and Q was is 1678 01:37:32,100 --> 01:37:37,590 ridiculous in the community. So let's play a clip. Oh, I was 1679 01:37:37,590 --> 01:37:39,870 going to have a whole thing. Oh, I'm glad you've got something 1680 01:37:40,110 --> 01:37:40,920 please. 1681 01:37:42,090 --> 01:37:47,280 John C Dvorak: So here's a trans non binary teacher who is tick 1682 01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:56,220 tock Yeah. Tick tock. Here's a trans non binary t shirt and I 1683 01:37:56,220 --> 01:38:00,960 can't tell if it's what this teacher is it's a boy Amy's like 1684 01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,000 pat the old character on 1685 01:38:03,030 --> 01:38:05,700 Adam Curry: no yeah and so 1686 01:38:08,490 --> 01:38:12,030 John C Dvorak: he's he she ages ever says they them he's obey 1687 01:38:12,030 --> 01:38:17,460 them or she's obey them I don't know. But he they them is 1688 01:38:17,460 --> 01:38:21,870 concerned with how to address and this is an issue that has 1689 01:38:21,870 --> 01:38:25,800 not been brought up on our show or otherwise that I know of. 1690 01:38:26,850 --> 01:38:31,200 When you have a non binary person how do you put their what 1691 01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:36,180 is their original salutation? Is it Mr. Is it miss? Is it misery? 1692 01:38:36,930 --> 01:38:40,890 You can't use the very good question or mister or miss it or 1693 01:38:40,890 --> 01:38:44,850 anything because you don't I mean that this further confuses 1694 01:38:44,850 --> 01:38:51,060 the day them he she bullcrap I said it again. Now. He's got it. 1695 01:38:51,390 --> 01:38:56,820 He she they them has got a solution. Kind of because it 1696 01:38:56,820 --> 01:39:00,900 came up in his her there's classes here it is. 1697 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,210 Unknown: So I'm a trans non binary high school teacher. And 1698 01:39:03,210 --> 01:39:05,520 since coming out a lot of people have asked me if students don't 1699 01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,730 use Mr or miss with me. What do they put in front of my name? So 1700 01:39:08,730 --> 01:39:10,680 the answer is nothing. I don't put anything in front of my 1701 01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:13,050 name. And students just call me Flint. But recently some of my 1702 01:39:13,050 --> 01:39:15,330 students stayed behind after class to tell me that they do 1703 01:39:15,330 --> 01:39:17,070 not like this arrangement anymore. And they presented me 1704 01:39:17,070 --> 01:39:19,560 with some alternate honorifics for my approval. So let's go 1705 01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:21,810 through them starting strong with Captain I like this because 1706 01:39:21,810 --> 01:39:23,940 it sounds like I'm leading a crew on the Enterprise instead 1707 01:39:23,940 --> 01:39:26,220 of begging students to care about literature. Next one is 1708 01:39:26,220 --> 01:39:29,310 good to sergeant or Sarge it's masculine commanding, but I 1709 01:39:29,310 --> 01:39:32,040 don't think I can be counted to reliably spell it next is Lord 1710 01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:33,690 which made me immediately uncomfortable and been in 1711 01:39:33,690 --> 01:39:35,910 principle but I think in practice I would be immediately 1712 01:39:35,910 --> 01:39:38,070 alarmed if I heard somebody calling their teacher Lord 1713 01:39:38,070 --> 01:39:40,890 anything fourth is Coach which I do here as a coach for roller 1714 01:39:40,890 --> 01:39:42,930 derby but the only thing I actually coach at school is 1715 01:39:42,930 --> 01:39:45,750 Academic Decathlon which I don't think qualifies me for this doc 1716 01:39:45,750 --> 01:39:47,670 I think makes me sound like I should be helping Snow White 1717 01:39:47,670 --> 01:39:50,010 with her house chores. So I'm gonna pass chef I think is 1718 01:39:50,010 --> 01:39:52,800 unquestionably my favorite. I teach English and film my day 1719 01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:54,930 doesn't deal with food at all. But the absurdity I think, is 1720 01:39:54,930 --> 01:39:57,150 its charm. Reminds me a lot of those people that are upset that 1721 01:39:57,150 --> 01:40:00,120 I'm not closeted at school who tell me to teach math and so I 1722 01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:03,000 answer this is a Wendy's. I'm gonna skip right past this one. 1723 01:40:03,090 --> 01:40:05,160 A late entry today was, Your Honor, I think it might put 1724 01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,530 students in a defensive position immediately. Sometimes they 1725 01:40:07,530 --> 01:40:08,940 deserve it, let me know if you've got a favorite. 1726 01:40:11,219 --> 01:40:15,689 Adam Curry: Okay, so this is this is exactly what happens. 1727 01:40:16,349 --> 01:40:22,229 This kind of stuff is passed around. And everyone, just like, 1728 01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:26,159 climate change does like all the things, but let's just like the 1729 01:40:26,189 --> 01:40:29,669 Russia, Ukraine war, everybody gets all spun up. And that is 1730 01:40:29,669 --> 01:40:33,809 the whole point. Again, the American media model is 1731 01:40:33,839 --> 01:40:39,359 opposition, strife. The always if you don't, I can barely even 1732 01:40:39,359 --> 01:40:44,159 watch it. Luckily, we have clip collectors and custodians. If 1733 01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:47,159 you watch cable news, if you watch Fox, they're playing clips 1734 01:40:47,159 --> 01:40:52,349 of the guys on the left, if you watch, MSNBC, CNN, they're all 1735 01:40:52,349 --> 01:40:55,229 playing clips. That's all they do all day, there's no one doing 1736 01:40:55,229 --> 01:40:58,979 any news is just a spin you up. And it works. It works against 1737 01:40:58,979 --> 01:41:03,329 you. That's what most podcasts are about. Which is why we're 1738 01:41:03,329 --> 01:41:07,679 never going to be really successful. Because we're not 1739 01:41:07,679 --> 01:41:10,139 using the model of success. We're using the model of 1740 01:41:10,169 --> 01:41:14,219 honesty, so that we can look at ourselves in the mirror, and 1741 01:41:14,279 --> 01:41:19,649 hopefully calm people down. And this is it's coming. A lot of 1742 01:41:19,649 --> 01:41:22,499 this is coming from big pharma once again, because they're the 1743 01:41:22,499 --> 01:41:26,519 ones benefiting each child that decides to transition is worth 1744 01:41:26,519 --> 01:41:32,159 $7 million over their lifetime. At minimum point two. You have 1745 01:41:32,159 --> 01:41:37,229 it down to the decimal I'm impressed 7.2 And think about 1746 01:41:37,829 --> 01:41:42,419 the restrictions that big pharma put on COVID. You can't even 1747 01:41:42,419 --> 01:41:48,869 talk about ivermectin that's horse paste. You can't you if 1748 01:41:48,869 --> 01:41:52,169 you go against big farmers wishes then you lose your 1749 01:41:52,169 --> 01:41:56,159 license, your your, your your your scrubbed off off the world, 1750 01:41:56,159 --> 01:42:00,089 your your business will close. You get no insurance for your 1751 01:42:00,089 --> 01:42:03,539 business. This is Big Pharma is doing this. And when I say big 1752 01:42:03,539 --> 01:42:06,749 farm, I'm also talking about the American Psychology Association, 1753 01:42:06,749 --> 01:42:11,549 the American Association of Pediatrics, DC, CDC, Rachel 1754 01:42:11,549 --> 01:42:17,069 Levine is a big, big part of it. All the preschoolers who own 1755 01:42:17,069 --> 01:42:20,759 medical device companies, it's all about money for them. It's 1756 01:42:20,789 --> 01:42:24,539 and they don't care. And and it's all about power. And this 1757 01:42:24,539 --> 01:42:30,479 is the worst part is the Democrats in general, are the 1758 01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:34,229 ones that see oh, wow, this is perfect. We can grab these 1759 01:42:34,229 --> 01:42:38,039 people, these are the people that will will be affectionate 1760 01:42:38,039 --> 01:42:42,989 towards them. And I would say today's Democrat is a Maoist, 1761 01:42:43,289 --> 01:42:48,839 socialist, Marxist. So no, we could we can grab these children 1762 01:42:48,869 --> 01:42:51,299 early on someone else is grabbing them as Big Pharma. 1763 01:42:51,299 --> 01:42:53,909 Thank you very much. That's great. Oh, media is just helping 1764 01:42:53,909 --> 01:42:57,929 out. Parents are afraid. Parents were afraid to speak up about 1765 01:42:57,929 --> 01:43:00,959 masking in schools, parents were afraid to say, hey, I really 1766 01:43:00,959 --> 01:43:04,559 don't want my kid to get this shot. I really don't want my kid 1767 01:43:04,559 --> 01:43:08,279 to get the shot without me knowing about it. So and this, 1768 01:43:08,309 --> 01:43:12,119 this trans mouse movement happened during COVID. That's 1769 01:43:12,119 --> 01:43:15,089 when children were left alone to their own devices, literally, 1770 01:43:15,089 --> 01:43:19,799 their devices, beaming this crap into them. And so you need to 1771 01:43:19,799 --> 01:43:23,429 take charge of your inputs of yourself and your children. This 1772 01:43:23,429 --> 01:43:28,379 queer ideology, which to me as I look at it, this it's it's 1773 01:43:28,379 --> 01:43:32,609 nothing new. It's just we have the it's plus the internet, we 1774 01:43:33,269 --> 01:43:39,779 in the 70s. And like, we had punk and we'd be sticking safety 1775 01:43:39,779 --> 01:43:42,419 pins through our ear lobes and through our nose and through our 1776 01:43:42,419 --> 01:43:45,719 cheek and we had ad leather jackets with an A on the inner 1777 01:43:45,719 --> 01:43:49,919 circle anarchists. Yeah, yeah. And we had the Sex Pistols and 1778 01:43:49,919 --> 01:43:52,949 God Save the Queen Jade, no human being. Now it's just been 1779 01:43:52,949 --> 01:43:57,239 turbocharged. Ben is really just people who want to be against 1780 01:43:57,239 --> 01:44:00,329 everything, and against the establishment. And the 1781 01:44:00,329 --> 01:44:04,589 establishment is now in charge and is running your children 1782 01:44:04,739 --> 01:44:09,089 into the ground. And here's to people learning to be teachers. 1783 01:44:09,119 --> 01:44:10,139 How do you feel about 1784 01:44:10,170 --> 01:44:16,860 Unknown: LGBTQ pushing their agenda on the youth? There's no 1785 01:44:16,860 --> 01:44:20,430 agenda. You're you are speaking to the LGBT. 1786 01:44:20,910 --> 01:44:24,420 Rs. It was it was great. I feel as though I feel as though every 1787 01:44:24,420 --> 01:44:27,930 child should be gay. Yeah, I think every single time actually 1788 01:44:27,930 --> 01:44:30,810 gay and I'm starting to be a teacher right now. And I'm going 1789 01:44:30,810 --> 01:44:32,430 to make every child in my class. 1790 01:44:33,269 --> 01:44:35,459 Adam Curry: These people are completely captured. They 1791 01:44:35,459 --> 01:44:41,549 completely brainwashed, and you need to avoid them. Get them out 1792 01:44:41,549 --> 01:44:44,729 of your school, get your child out of the school, but you also 1793 01:44:44,969 --> 01:44:49,559 have to watch check yourself. These are still people they 1794 01:44:49,559 --> 01:44:53,039 have, they're just they have they have been mind controlled. 1795 01:44:53,609 --> 01:44:57,299 And they're they're literally under spells. And this is the 1796 01:44:57,299 --> 01:45:01,859 only clip that I really need to play because it shows how the 1797 01:45:01,859 --> 01:45:06,329 spell has taken charge of otherwise probably normal 1798 01:45:06,509 --> 01:45:11,849 adults. And I was I'm glad I could find this in context 1799 01:45:11,849 --> 01:45:16,139 because the spin you up make you crazy version was the only thing 1800 01:45:16,139 --> 01:45:20,339 you saw about a minute on. On social media. I got the full 1801 01:45:20,339 --> 01:45:24,959 three minutes. This is Democrat Senator, Senator mckaela 1802 01:45:24,959 --> 01:45:29,309 Kavanaugh of Nebraska. Now, let's take the context of what 1803 01:45:29,309 --> 01:45:34,439 was happening here. They were discussing a bill which, by the 1804 01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:40,409 way in Nebraska, passed narrowly, which if signed by the 1805 01:45:40,409 --> 01:45:45,719 governor will ban sex change procedures for minors under 19. 1806 01:45:46,139 --> 01:45:47,459 As well as a blade, 1807 01:45:48,510 --> 01:45:52,800 John C Dvorak: I saw it that sex change for minors under 18 was 1808 01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:54,960 already nobody did it. 1809 01:45:56,010 --> 01:46:00,240 Adam Curry: Yeah, that's just not true. And with sex change, 1810 01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:04,440 we also mean chemically altering your the state of your body so 1811 01:46:04,440 --> 01:46:08,460 testosterone, estrogen, it's not none of it is reversible as they 1812 01:46:08,460 --> 01:46:12,870 claim. And again, parents are just we know parents of these 1813 01:46:12,900 --> 01:46:16,950 trans children. And we know these people, John, you and I, 1814 01:46:16,950 --> 01:46:19,380 we look at them, and we say they've just been captured. 1815 01:46:20,580 --> 01:46:25,020 They're afraid to say no, they're afraid to stand up. 1816 01:46:25,020 --> 01:46:25,170 They're 1817 01:46:25,170 --> 01:46:27,090 John C Dvorak: not afraid to say No, they won't say no, they're 1818 01:46:27,090 --> 01:46:29,820 completely they're captured to the extreme that they're 1819 01:46:29,850 --> 01:46:33,960 righteous. But there's difference between the people 1820 01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:36,540 that are afraid to say no, then the people who have been 1821 01:46:37,140 --> 01:46:39,270 captured and are righteous about it. 1822 01:46:40,950 --> 01:46:43,380 Adam Curry: I still, I still have sympathy for them, because 1823 01:46:43,380 --> 01:46:47,310 they're under some form of spell, which is very similar. 1824 01:46:47,340 --> 01:46:51,270 And maybe just 30% of people are lost. But it's very similar to 1825 01:46:51,390 --> 01:46:54,870 Vax versus unvaccinated. It doesn't matter how many times 1826 01:46:54,870 --> 01:47:00,180 you show that you were lied to about the vaccine. They never 1827 01:47:00,180 --> 01:47:05,910 accept it, they will never accept it. And it's like, lies 1828 01:47:05,940 --> 01:47:09,450 many experiments that show that people have herd mentality, and 1829 01:47:09,450 --> 01:47:12,390 they will just go along with it. And but it comes from a place of 1830 01:47:12,390 --> 01:47:17,520 fear. So by the way, this, this is not even such a crazy law, 12 1831 01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:21,210 weeks of pregnancy, I mean, filling your own, your own 1832 01:47:21,210 --> 01:47:28,260 version of what you think is, is acceptable. And 19 is older than 1833 01:47:28,500 --> 01:47:32,610 then most states, you know, it's 18 for this type of this type of 1834 01:47:32,610 --> 01:47:38,910 work, but it includes puberty blockers. And so the senator 1835 01:47:38,910 --> 01:47:45,120 comes up, and there were people protesting out in the, in the 1836 01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:50,700 hallway. And she starts off very normally saying that she doesn't 1837 01:47:50,700 --> 01:47:53,340 agree with it. And this is the piece that you didn't hear and 1838 01:47:53,340 --> 01:47:58,620 certainly didn't see. And then she just goes into into a chant 1839 01:47:58,890 --> 01:48:03,780 that I think it has been, it's a spell she's under a spell. And 1840 01:48:03,780 --> 01:48:07,530 she is not the only one. And I have compassion and love for 1841 01:48:07,530 --> 01:48:12,120 her. But it is very troubling to see Senator Mikayla 1842 01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:16,470 Unknown: cabina you recognize to speak. Thank you, Mr. President. 1843 01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:23,250 Trans people belong here. We need trans people, we love trans 1844 01:48:23,250 --> 01:48:27,480 people. That's what they're saying out there. 1845 01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:30,360 Adam Curry: That's what they're saying out there. That is the 1846 01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:30,900 chat. 1847 01:48:31,650 --> 01:48:34,680 Unknown: They're standing in a circle in the attended saying 1848 01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:43,470 that over and over again. Trans people belong here. We need 1849 01:48:43,470 --> 01:48:48,360 trans people, we love trans people, trans people belong 1850 01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:54,120 here. We need trans people, we love trans people, trans people 1851 01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:59,310 belong here. We need trans people, we love trans people, 1852 01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:04,530 trans people belong here. We need trans people, we love trans 1853 01:49:04,530 --> 01:49:09,300 people, trans people belong here. We need trans people, we 1854 01:49:09,300 --> 01:49:13,710 love trans people, trans people belong here. We need trans 1855 01:49:13,710 --> 01:49:17,820 people, we love trans people, trans people belong here. We 1856 01:49:17,820 --> 01:49:21,810 need trans people, we love trans people, trans people belong 1857 01:49:21,810 --> 01:49:24,210 here. We need trans people, we 1858 01:49:24,210 --> 01:49:26,850 love trans people, trans people belong here. 1859 01:49:26,969 --> 01:49:28,829 We need trans people, we 1860 01:49:28,830 --> 01:49:32,640 love trans people, trans people belong here. We need trans 1861 01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:36,270 people, we love trans people, trans people belong here. We 1862 01:49:36,270 --> 01:49:39,900 need trans people, we love trans people, trans people belong 1863 01:49:39,900 --> 01:49:43,890 here. We need trans people, we love trans people, trans people 1864 01:49:43,890 --> 01:49:47,670 belong here. We need trans people. We love trans people, 1865 01:49:47,700 --> 01:49:51,930 trans people belong here. We need trans people. We love trans 1866 01:49:51,930 --> 01:49:55,560 people, trans people belong here. We need trans people. We 1867 01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:59,430 love trans people, trans people belong here. We need trans 1868 01:49:59,430 --> 01:50:03,900 people. We You love trans people and trans people, we need trans 1869 01:50:03,900 --> 01:50:12,780 people, trans people, trans people, trans people, trans 1870 01:50:12,780 --> 01:50:19,560 people, trans trans people, trans people, trans people, 1871 01:50:21,090 --> 01:50:30,750 trans people, trans people, trans people, trans, trans trans 1872 01:50:30,750 --> 01:50:40,110 people, trans people, trans people, trans people, people 1873 01:50:40,110 --> 01:50:50,370 really love trans people trans people, trans people, trans 1874 01:50:50,370 --> 01:51:01,050 people love trans people, you matter, you matter. And I am for 1875 01:51:01,050 --> 01:51:07,290 you. And I will not stop. I will not stop today. I will not stop 1876 01:51:07,290 --> 01:51:16,320 tomorrow. You are loved you better you belong here. This 1877 01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:20,940 Adam Curry: is this is a very, very disturbed individual. 1878 01:51:22,350 --> 01:51:24,270 John C Dvorak: I'm reminded of a Hari Krishna. 1879 01:51:24,300 --> 01:51:28,860 Adam Curry: Yes, exactly. They've heard this exactly it 1880 01:51:28,860 --> 01:51:33,510 chants and chants are very, very powerful. And this I think is it 1881 01:51:33,540 --> 01:51:37,050 This may be done behind closed doors, we got a very rare peek 1882 01:51:38,250 --> 01:51:43,380 at what at this is a this is a person who's in government doing 1883 01:51:43,380 --> 01:51:48,870 this in front of her peers. This is this is something that is way 1884 01:51:48,870 --> 01:51:54,090 beyond the pale. And, and, and those it's fun kind of watching 1885 01:51:54,090 --> 01:51:57,060 the troll room like Stop, stop, you know, I'm leaving, I'm 1886 01:51:57,060 --> 01:52:01,020 checking out, you have to face this. You have to face what's 1887 01:52:01,020 --> 01:52:04,470 going on. These people need to be embraced. And like excuse me, 1888 01:52:04,470 --> 01:52:08,160 you need to calm down. Let's have a beer. Bottle light 1889 01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:16,080 perhaps some so this is this is very, very, very sick. And 1890 01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:20,190 that's and this is the internet. It's the food people are eating. 1891 01:52:20,310 --> 01:52:23,070 It's the media they're consuming. It's the words it's 1892 01:52:23,070 --> 01:52:29,370 pronouns. This is where we have to just stop. We have to stop. 1893 01:52:30,900 --> 01:52:36,210 We do. We do? Like Good Luck. Well, you know people are people 1894 01:52:36,210 --> 01:52:42,660 are standing up to it. Here's a TSA agent, producer. Good 1895 01:52:42,660 --> 01:52:45,540 afternoon. I was hesitant to reach out as I know how much you 1896 01:52:45,540 --> 01:52:50,700 love the TSA. We love you that has nothing to do with whether 1897 01:52:50,700 --> 01:52:54,780 you're TSA or not. But you know now transgender passengers can 1898 01:52:54,780 --> 01:53:02,430 request if they want a male or female TSA agent and this agent 1899 01:53:02,430 --> 01:53:06,570 is saying I'm not going to do it. I am not going to pat down 1900 01:53:06,630 --> 01:53:09,930 as a man I'm not going to pat down a woman even if they 1901 01:53:09,930 --> 01:53:16,320 requested I'm not going to do it. And and and the only thing 1902 01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:22,530 we have Did you see Ford? Ford now has the pride LGBT colored 1903 01:53:22,650 --> 01:53:24,840 rainbow F 150. 1904 01:53:27,660 --> 01:53:29,040 John C Dvorak: Sure that's not a hoax. 1905 01:53:29,070 --> 01:53:34,080 Adam Curry: No, no, it's not. No they specifically that No, it's 1906 01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:41,550 not a hoax. It's not a hoax. But these companies are all a little 1907 01:53:41,550 --> 01:53:44,790 bit behind. You know that they haven't quite figured out that 1908 01:53:44,790 --> 01:53:47,940 people are not going to take this anymore. The mama bears are 1909 01:53:47,940 --> 01:53:51,390 out there stopping this stuff in schools. And but to them I also 1910 01:53:51,390 --> 01:53:57,120 you got to calm down. You don't have to go crazy. But when I 1911 01:53:57,120 --> 01:54:01,800 hear this, this chanting. Clearly these and this is the 1912 01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:06,540 latest. This is the best. This is your government Matt Lee. 1913 01:54:06,540 --> 01:54:09,420 Finally we have a Matt Lee clip we've been missing. Matt Lee 1914 01:54:09,420 --> 01:54:13,050 from the State Department finally saw him again. In the 1915 01:54:13,050 --> 01:54:17,910 end, there's a new state spokes whole State Department spokes 1916 01:54:17,910 --> 01:54:21,900 Hall was pretty funny by himself. And Matt Lee has gone 1917 01:54:21,900 --> 01:54:25,260 very, very gray. It's kind of like Wow, man, we haven't seen 1918 01:54:25,260 --> 01:54:28,530 you around and you went gray on us. And he's old. He's getting 1919 01:54:28,530 --> 01:54:32,460 up there. And he started off the briefing with a question 1920 01:54:32,550 --> 01:54:34,920 Unknown: here. Have you gotten any emails from any of your 1921 01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:37,860 colleagues in Alaska? You know, before you came out here, 1922 01:54:37,860 --> 01:54:40,590 obviously not while you've been at the podium, but since about 1923 01:54:40,590 --> 01:54:41,370 noon or so. 1924 01:54:41,430 --> 01:54:44,610 I wanted to get to your question. 1925 01:54:45,870 --> 01:54:50,310 Have you? What's your question? Do you have Are you able to look 1926 01:54:50,310 --> 01:54:53,310 at them right now my email? I'm not gonna pull up my email list 1927 01:54:53,310 --> 01:54:56,070 from the photo. No, you don't need to show it to me. Yeah. I 1928 01:54:56,070 --> 01:54:58,560 want to notice I want to know if you've noticed anything 1929 01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:02,460 different in the from the The line where it gives the sender 1930 01:55:03,150 --> 01:55:05,640 and then that this would be a lot better if you would just, 1931 01:55:06,060 --> 01:55:07,560 what's your question was? Well, 1932 01:55:07,620 --> 01:55:11,190 I mean, you say you haven't noticed anything now. Okay, so 1933 01:55:11,190 --> 01:55:14,460 within the last hour and a half, two hours, the State 1934 01:55:14,460 --> 01:55:18,540 Department's internal email system, and I tested this, this 1935 01:55:18,540 --> 01:55:24,750 group has added pronouns to people's, not their signature, 1936 01:55:24,930 --> 01:55:29,400 but to their former where, you know, where it says from? Okay, 1937 01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:38,730 so it will say him, his or her, you know, dashi why this is not 1938 01:55:38,730 --> 01:55:41,580 an optional thing, this is something that has been just 1939 01:55:41,610 --> 01:55:45,840 arbitrarily imposed. And I understand that people could 1940 01:55:45,870 --> 01:55:49,260 have their pronouns attached if they'd wanted them to a 1941 01:55:49,260 --> 01:55:53,010 signature before. But this is not something that anyone has a 1942 01:55:53,010 --> 01:55:53,700 choice about. 1943 01:55:54,059 --> 01:55:56,249 Adam Curry: We have the premise here that the State Department 1944 01:55:56,249 --> 01:56:00,209 was automatically putting pronouns in the From field. 1945 01:56:00,209 --> 01:56:01,079 Yeah. Is it a 1946 01:56:01,170 --> 01:56:03,870 John C Dvorak: scandal because of the glitch? 1947 01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:08,160 Unknown: So I'm just wondering, why and who made this decision? 1948 01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:08,280 Well, 1949 01:56:08,610 --> 01:56:15,870 I have not seen this phenomenon for myself. Just to ask you a 1950 01:56:15,870 --> 01:56:19,950 question, is it just for internal State Department and 1951 01:56:19,950 --> 01:56:21,840 obviously as if that will be okay. 1952 01:56:22,740 --> 01:56:28,290 I tested someone in this building. And whereas before, it 1953 01:56:28,290 --> 01:56:30,720 did not have any of these pronouns attached to the 1954 01:56:31,020 --> 01:56:34,590 sender's name, it now does. And I've also been told from other 1955 01:56:34,590 --> 01:56:37,710 people, that's the many of them or at least when you 1956 01:56:37,710 --> 01:56:39,960 send it does it doesn't have the 1957 01:56:40,140 --> 01:56:43,770 Adam Curry: show too. So anyway, the State Department indeed, 1958 01:56:43,770 --> 01:56:48,480 there was some kind of glitch because they were indeed or have 1959 01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:52,860 been planning to add automatic or maybe you should be able to 1960 01:56:52,860 --> 01:56:57,900 choose pronouns to the from field, which, now this is an out 1961 01:56:57,900 --> 01:57:02,130 they use Outlook. So I'm just going to presume this is a 1962 01:57:02,130 --> 01:57:07,680 Microsoft feature that they will be adding. And the State 1963 01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:11,760 Department is now offering free therapy to any employees who 1964 01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:15,270 feel hurt or upset by this unfortunate glitch. 1965 01:57:15,990 --> 01:57:18,690 John C Dvorak: If they were misgendering gendered, yes. 1966 01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:22,200 Yeah. If your name is Andy, for example, it could be a woman. 1967 01:57:24,030 --> 01:57:29,190 But I get you get to hear her and hurt your feelings is such 1968 01:57:29,190 --> 01:57:30,210 an extreme. 1969 01:57:30,630 --> 01:57:35,040 Adam Curry: So we need to come up with a couple of we've done 1970 01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:39,240 this in the past, we need to help people with ways to stop 1971 01:57:39,240 --> 01:57:42,930 the pronoun stuff if someone says, oh, no, that's a he or she 1972 01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:44,790 them or her? Azura No, it's 1973 01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:48,690 John C Dvorak: It's butchery is ruining the English language 1974 01:57:49,380 --> 01:57:55,800 makes it harder to write. And it's idiotic emphasis, very 1975 01:57:55,800 --> 01:58:00,780 small, small sub 1% of the population demandingness. And 1976 01:58:00,780 --> 01:58:04,200 why is such a small group calling the shots 1977 01:58:04,230 --> 01:58:06,870 Adam Curry: Well, obviously because this is part of the 1978 01:58:06,870 --> 01:58:12,540 trans Maoist system hobbyists. So we need to have a comeback, 1979 01:58:12,570 --> 01:58:16,500 which we've done in the past. It's like when someone sends you 1980 01:58:16,530 --> 01:58:21,270 an email and then there's a pronoun in there I think that we 1981 01:58:21,270 --> 01:58:26,850 have to start saying excuse me, I cannot converse with you if 1982 01:58:26,850 --> 01:58:32,700 you're doing this but that needs to be a better comeback. 1983 01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:36,750 John C Dvorak: Yes, yes. I agree. Better come back 1984 01:58:36,750 --> 01:58:39,540 Adam Curry: to that we need a better comeback. We need to have 1985 01:58:39,540 --> 01:58:43,080 something I'm looking for something I'm looking for 1986 01:58:43,080 --> 01:58:43,560 something 1987 01:58:43,740 --> 01:58:45,900 John C Dvorak: maybe somebody out there all right, something 1988 01:58:45,900 --> 01:58:51,540 that is theirs. We have writers that have no talent yet maybe 1989 01:58:51,540 --> 01:58:55,560 they're on strike taking give us a free material and they'll come 1990 01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:58,230 up with this this one liner that we're looking for because 1991 01:58:58,230 --> 01:59:01,320 Adam Curry: I see this incorporations all the time now 1992 01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:06,360 and then it's virtue signaling its political it has no business 1993 01:59:06,390 --> 01:59:11,940 in business and and we have to find a polite way to tell people 1994 01:59:11,940 --> 01:59:13,740 no I'm I'm I can't I don't know 1995 01:59:13,740 --> 01:59:15,960 John C Dvorak: you I get one way I didn't know you were a 1996 01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:16,770 Democrat. 1997 01:59:20,040 --> 01:59:21,390 Adam Curry: And with that, I'd like to thank you for your 1998 01:59:21,390 --> 01:59:23,880 courage in the morning to you the man who put the seat in the 1999 01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:26,490 Forever chemicals. Ladies and gentlemen, please say hello to 2000 01:59:26,490 --> 01:59:29,160 my friend on the other end Mr. John C. 2001 01:59:34,500 --> 01:59:37,980 John C Dvorak: Sorry, in the morning, I was making so much 2002 01:59:37,980 --> 01:59:40,830 noise I couldn't hear you in the morning to you Adam curry also 2003 01:59:40,830 --> 01:59:45,660 in the morning all ships see boots to the ground. Water 2004 01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:52,470 Adam Curry: the pronoun virtue signaling through how many? Oh 2005 01:59:52,470 --> 01:59:57,180 wow, we're two hours into the show and we still have 20 206 2006 01:59:58,290 --> 02:00:01,470 That's not too bad. Normally That's good. Normally we break 2007 02:00:01,470 --> 02:00:03,930 one hour in why are we breaking two hours in? 2008 02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:06,540 John C Dvorak: Well, it's very no donation. That's 2009 02:00:06,540 --> 02:00:08,790 Adam Curry: right. The less donations the more show. It's 2010 02:00:08,790 --> 02:00:13,470 amazing. We must we must be doing something wrong. And maybe 2011 02:00:13,530 --> 02:00:16,620 we're just not giving enough value. I think I think we bring 2012 02:00:16,620 --> 02:00:19,830 in the value. People say we're bringing the value, but what 2013 02:00:19,830 --> 02:00:21,840 John C Dvorak: are we maybe they're tired of these topics 2014 02:00:23,340 --> 02:00:26,550 really means possible. 2015 02:00:27,630 --> 02:00:30,750 Adam Curry: No. All right, we can go Oh, all right. 2016 02:00:30,780 --> 02:00:32,520 John C Dvorak: I don't know what other topics are we just 2017 02:00:32,550 --> 02:00:34,500 deconstruct whatever news there is. 2018 02:00:34,710 --> 02:00:39,150 Adam Curry: That's pretty much what we do. Yeah. Anyway, nice 2019 02:00:39,150 --> 02:00:40,260 to see you there. Trolls. 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And people like to tag us in long 2039 02:01:47,130 --> 02:01:50,340 conversations, which is sometimes fun. And as part of 2040 02:01:50,340 --> 02:01:54,300 our value for value Initiative, where people can help us with 2041 02:01:54,300 --> 02:01:57,570 time, talent and treasure. We definitely got some, some 2042 02:01:57,570 --> 02:02:02,130 talent, the artwork, we want to thank the artist who brought us 2043 02:02:02,130 --> 02:02:06,330 the artwork for episode 1556. We titled that uncertainty complex, 2044 02:02:06,390 --> 02:02:09,510 maybe it was the title. Maybe the title didn't bring people 2045 02:02:09,510 --> 02:02:15,330 didn't motivate people to maybe to support us. I thought, yes. 2046 02:02:16,049 --> 02:02:18,269 John C Dvorak: I was going to say when you are going to use 2047 02:02:18,269 --> 02:02:20,459 this, we're going to talk about the art we should point out that 2048 02:02:20,459 --> 02:02:24,869 on the front page has been changed to the Art Generator. 2049 02:02:24,899 --> 02:02:28,349 Oh, I have not seen the change. Paul couture has created a 2050 02:02:28,349 --> 02:02:29,309 leaderboard. 2051 02:02:29,969 --> 02:02:33,239 Adam Curry: Oh leaderboard top 10 past year I see it. Well. 2052 02:02:33,239 --> 02:02:37,379 This is the art came from Taunton, Neil. And it was 2053 02:02:37,379 --> 02:02:40,409 something not discussed in the show at all, which was a point 2054 02:02:40,409 --> 02:02:45,089 of contention. For I said we didn't discuss this at all. And 2055 02:02:45,089 --> 02:02:47,819 you said but it's a beautiful piece. I couldn't argue with 2056 02:02:47,819 --> 02:02:50,549 that. That's the problem. I could not argue with it being a 2057 02:02:50,549 --> 02:02:53,429 beautiful piece. This was the Department of plumbers dust 2058 02:02:53,429 --> 02:02:56,459 busters and fixtures, which I believe was something Matt Gates 2059 02:02:56,459 --> 02:02:59,669 said in one of his performances in Congress, which is why we 2060 02:02:59,669 --> 02:03:03,689 probably didn't play it was an FBI agent. He said, Oh, they're 2061 02:03:03,689 --> 02:03:07,049 just plumbers dust busters and fixers. them they had a you 2062 02:03:07,049 --> 02:03:12,509 know, an FBI agent has a wrench, a pipe wrench and a DustBuster a 2063 02:03:12,509 --> 02:03:17,669 desk Buster, Buster, it was the best piece. But 2064 02:03:18,030 --> 02:03:20,790 John C Dvorak: that was that that piece and there's also 2065 02:03:20,790 --> 02:03:25,920 another piece next to it nearby by also by tantan deal of her 2066 02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:28,890 trying to predict in advance what the show is going to be 2067 02:03:28,890 --> 02:03:32,430 about. Yeah. Which is, which is a bad idea. 2068 02:03:32,460 --> 02:03:35,100 Adam Curry: Yes. Is she doing this again? 2069 02:03:35,850 --> 02:03:37,920 John C Dvorak: No, I'm just saying she did did she did it 2070 02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:41,700 twice. If you look at the piece that she did go over to there is 2071 02:03:41,700 --> 02:03:45,630 another piece. Similar. It's not similar. It's not half as good. 2072 02:03:45,630 --> 02:03:50,160 But it's got the dustbuster done by her right I also done by her 2073 02:03:50,430 --> 02:03:53,670 show. So she was all in on predicting what we're going to 2074 02:03:53,670 --> 02:03:55,920 talk about. And trying to predict what we're going to talk 2075 02:03:55,920 --> 02:04:00,030 about is not necessarily we don't talk about what you think 2076 02:04:00,030 --> 02:04:02,070 we're going to talk about, generally speaking well here's 2077 02:04:02,070 --> 02:04:06,450 Adam Curry: a question for you seeing the low donations. Are we 2078 02:04:06,450 --> 02:04:07,830 talking about the wrong things? 2079 02:04:11,160 --> 02:04:14,700 John C Dvorak: Well, I'm all in for playing these whack job 2080 02:04:14,700 --> 02:04:17,340 clips. In fact, right here in the middle of the donation 2081 02:04:17,340 --> 02:04:21,540 segment. I have one oh, here we go. All right. So this is the 2082 02:04:21,540 --> 02:04:24,270 kind of clip that you know it's not much to talk about it just 2083 02:04:24,270 --> 02:04:27,780 silly this silly and the dust busters thing was to but this is 2084 02:04:27,780 --> 02:04:31,320 Linda's now they had a bunch of Western whistleblowers Right. 2085 02:04:31,350 --> 02:04:35,640 Right. Right. Who was really interesting because the 2086 02:04:35,640 --> 02:04:39,960 Democrats were excoriating them because they were you know, even 2087 02:04:39,960 --> 02:04:42,870 though the Democrats are the ones behind the whole idea of 2088 02:04:42,870 --> 02:04:46,890 whistleblowers. They were big onto the whistleblowers because 2089 02:04:46,890 --> 02:04:49,530 you know all going back to the Pentagon Papers, they were the 2090 02:04:49,530 --> 02:04:52,470 ones all trying to protect the whistleblowers, but now they 2091 02:04:52,470 --> 02:04:57,870 hate whistleblowers. Surprise, surprise. So these guys, so we 2092 02:04:57,870 --> 02:05:01,110 have Linda Sanchez, who has argued Probably one of the two 2093 02:05:01,110 --> 02:05:05,190 or three stupidest representatives in the House or 2094 02:05:05,190 --> 02:05:09,810 in the house there are trying to burn one of these whistleblowers 2095 02:05:09,810 --> 02:05:14,340 with an idiotic question. And let's listen to Linda. 2096 02:05:14,580 --> 02:05:17,400 Unknown: Mr. Allen, have you ever use Twitter? Yes or no? 2097 02:05:17,910 --> 02:05:19,980 I have utilized Twitter. Yes. Okay. 2098 02:05:19,980 --> 02:05:25,710 And is your account at Marcus at 97050645? 2099 02:05:26,040 --> 02:05:28,890 That is absolutely not my account. Okay. That's not your 2100 02:05:28,890 --> 02:05:29,640 account. Well, on 2101 02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:34,230 December 5 2020, to an account under the name Marcus Allen 2102 02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:38,610 retweeted a tweet that said it is not my account. Ma'am. You 2103 02:05:38,610 --> 02:05:41,190 haven't let me finish the question, sir. football player. 2104 02:05:41,220 --> 02:05:44,610 You haven't let me finish the question on this. And the time 2105 02:05:44,610 --> 02:05:49,050 is mine. On December 5 2020, to an account under the name of 2106 02:05:49,050 --> 02:05:53,640 Marcus Allen retweeted a tweet that said quote, Nancy Pelosi 2107 02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:59,430 stage January 6, retweet if you agree and quote, do you agree 2108 02:05:59,430 --> 02:06:01,500 with that statement? Yes or no? 2109 02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:05,790 That that is I don't know. Ma'am. That's not my account at 2110 02:06:05,790 --> 02:06:06,180 all. 2111 02:06:06,210 --> 02:06:09,420 I have. I'm asking whether you agree with that statement? Yes 2112 02:06:09,420 --> 02:06:09,870 or not? Can 2113 02:06:09,870 --> 02:06:13,290 you please rephrase this? Rephrase. The gentlelady has 2114 02:06:13,290 --> 02:06:14,580 expired staged 2115 02:06:14,640 --> 02:06:18,480 January 6. I just want him to answer. Yeah, he'll answer I 2116 02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:21,960 just telling you, your time's up. Do you believe that Nancy 2117 02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:24,360 Pelosi Do you agree with the statement that this person 2118 02:06:24,360 --> 02:06:28,950 tweeted that Nancy Pelosi stage January 6? I asked her No. No. 2119 02:06:29,310 --> 02:06:31,080 Thank you. I yield back. 2120 02:06:31,290 --> 02:06:36,060 Adam Curry: Oh my goodness. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, you 2121 02:06:36,060 --> 02:06:39,450 know, maybe we need to play more stuff like listen to that you 2122 02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:43,350 meet me. Oh ha let's do a tussle Taunton. You also tried to do 2123 02:06:43,350 --> 02:06:46,350 something about the Durham report. Which it you know and 2124 02:06:46,350 --> 02:06:49,020 she put in there which didn't quite work you know, which is f 2125 02:06:49,020 --> 02:06:55,350 being yourself magic corridor to health. Which was was cute. But 2126 02:06:55,350 --> 02:06:58,020 what maybe we should be doing this. You know, they're so 2127 02:06:58,020 --> 02:07:00,030 crazy. It was democratic. Rachel Maddow. 2128 02:07:00,510 --> 02:07:02,880 Unknown: Second thing we are keeping an eye on tonight is the 2129 02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:05,640 reaction particularly the reaction on the political right, 2130 02:07:05,640 --> 02:07:05,940 man, 2131 02:07:05,940 --> 02:07:08,280 Adam Curry: she was totally you know, Trump was right. He was 2132 02:07:08,280 --> 02:07:09,360 exonerated right. 2133 02:07:09,750 --> 02:07:14,760 Unknown: To the long awaited Durham report. Job to report 2134 02:07:14,820 --> 02:07:16,410 Adam Curry: listen to that mad cow 2135 02:07:17,550 --> 02:07:19,980 Unknown: for long awaited what, right but 2136 02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:21,720 Adam Curry: oh, like she doesn't know what it is? 2137 02:07:22,050 --> 02:07:24,450 Unknown: Well, the reason we're watching for the right. And 2138 02:07:24,450 --> 02:07:27,000 their reaction to this is because the Durham report is 2139 02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:30,990 only really long awaited by them. And they really, really 2140 02:07:30,990 --> 02:07:34,290 have been awaiting this report. Boy, they have been excited 2141 02:07:34,290 --> 02:07:37,950 about this for a long time. literally for years, former 2142 02:07:37,950 --> 02:07:41,460 President Trump and his allies have been invoking the name John 2143 02:07:41,460 --> 02:07:43,290 Durham, or sometimes Bull 2144 02:07:43,290 --> 02:07:43,740 Durham. 2145 02:07:44,040 --> 02:07:47,070 Adam Curry: Oh, she's gonna lie listen to her lie, as 2146 02:07:47,070 --> 02:07:50,280 Unknown: the man who would save them and smite all of Trump's 2147 02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:53,070 enemies. For years they have been heralding the great 2148 02:07:53,070 --> 02:07:56,790 revelations, John Durham would soon reveal about Trump's 2149 02:07:56,790 --> 02:08:00,480 political opponents and the deep state and all their evil ways. 2150 02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:03,480 Adam Curry: That's exactly what's in the report, along with 2151 02:08:03,480 --> 02:08:06,270 the fact that no agenda is the best podcast in the universe. 2152 02:08:06,300 --> 02:08:06,960 When that 2153 02:08:06,990 --> 02:08:09,960 Unknown: didn't seem to be happening. Trump and his allies 2154 02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:12,480 started pounding their chests and yelling at the clouds about 2155 02:08:12,480 --> 02:08:16,470 why Durham hadn't acted yet. Why he hadn't yet smoked all of 2156 02:08:16,470 --> 02:08:19,890 Trump's enemies. Why, you know, there were Democrats who weren't 2157 02:08:19,890 --> 02:08:21,750 yet at Guantanamo. 2158 02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:25,860 Adam Curry: And Hillary Clinton is in Guantanamo. We all know. 2159 02:08:27,000 --> 02:08:30,000 That's what people want from us, John. This clearly what they 2160 02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:33,000 want. They want us to do that kind of material, like every 2161 02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:35,160 other podcast out there. 2162 02:08:35,790 --> 02:08:37,140 John C Dvorak: Everybody does that. 2163 02:08:37,170 --> 02:08:40,920 Adam Curry: So what I mean, and who else can tell you how 2164 02:08:40,920 --> 02:08:44,730 they're going to take the good neighborhoods and in Oakland, 2165 02:08:45,060 --> 02:08:48,660 from stealing property to the property? Oh, that's 2166 02:08:48,660 --> 02:08:52,020 John C Dvorak: not it interesting as excoriating 2167 02:08:52,020 --> 02:08:55,950 Rachel Maddow. Exactly. There were one once a week show or she 2168 02:08:55,950 --> 02:08:58,860 always looks down like she's so concerned about what's in the 2169 02:08:58,860 --> 02:09:02,370 next blonde one of the most watching look down at you. 2170 02:09:02,670 --> 02:09:08,070 Adam Curry: Yeah, oh yeah, of course. Of course. Now comics or 2171 02:09:08,070 --> 02:09:11,550 Blogger had an interesting little thing but it was so AI we 2172 02:09:11,550 --> 02:09:12,870 couldn't we just couldn't stand it. 2173 02:09:12,930 --> 02:09:16,680 John C Dvorak: No, it was his I liked a rabid Teddy his AI thing 2174 02:09:16,680 --> 02:09:20,850 developed that was a very good job. Oh it's pretty high. 2175 02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:26,730 Adam Curry: Yeah for for the AI which is good AI the credit you 2176 02:09:26,730 --> 02:09:28,050 know, that's what we should be doing. 2177 02:09:28,650 --> 02:09:30,960 John C Dvorak: He did he did some work on that piece though. 2178 02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:34,470 Because he had the gives I know the AI will give you anything 2179 02:09:34,470 --> 02:09:37,350 like no agenda to top and Coronavirus at the most we had 2180 02:09:37,350 --> 02:09:40,770 to put that on by hand and so he did it in such a way that it did 2181 02:09:40,770 --> 02:09:44,550 to have the rabbit overlay it so he had to do that. Using a 2182 02:09:44,550 --> 02:09:46,260 little some trickery. 2183 02:09:46,290 --> 02:09:50,550 Adam Curry: I think a lot of people are using AI comics your 2184 02:09:50,550 --> 02:09:53,340 blog just really kind of flooded the zone with some of his AI 2185 02:09:53,340 --> 02:10:00,330 stuff. Darren O'Neal the head Pinocchio. What was the point of 2186 02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:03,900 Pinocchio with the NBC logo and BBC reports. 2187 02:10:04,500 --> 02:10:06,510 John C Dvorak: We had sorry about them lying all the time. 2188 02:10:06,510 --> 02:10:10,050 But the problem I had with that piece was that I don't believe 2189 02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:14,580 that Darren licensed that Pinocchio character and Disney's 2190 02:10:14,580 --> 02:10:18,510 really uptight about anything use of their characters and I 2191 02:10:18,510 --> 02:10:19,380 don't want to even talk 2192 02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:21,750 Adam Curry: before you know, though they'll leave your state 2193 02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:24,840 taking all their business with you with them. 2194 02:10:24,900 --> 02:10:28,320 John C Dvorak: So the point that is like, no, they tend to sue. 2195 02:10:28,830 --> 02:10:33,960 They did and I'm not do paying doing anything with the Disney 2196 02:10:33,960 --> 02:10:38,970 character you forget it. There's not a good there was there was 2197 02:10:38,970 --> 02:10:42,690 good stuff to use. It's just that I was arguing because 2198 02:10:42,690 --> 02:10:47,250 because of the prettiness and just the professionalism of this 2199 02:10:47,250 --> 02:10:50,340 one piece, which and US made the argument a you know, we didn't 2200 02:10:50,340 --> 02:10:51,360 even talk about that. 2201 02:10:51,690 --> 02:10:54,420 Adam Curry: Yeah, which at which, but it was it was the 2202 02:10:54,420 --> 02:10:56,940 nicest piece amongst all the other things. 2203 02:10:58,200 --> 02:11:01,410 John C Dvorak: It was the nicest to an extreme. That's if it was 2204 02:11:01,530 --> 02:11:02,640 less. That's the 2205 02:11:02,640 --> 02:11:05,280 Adam Curry: problem. That's the problem. It was not and you were 2206 02:11:05,280 --> 02:11:08,970 like, Oh, we can do the AI with the car, which is just No, no, 2207 02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:11,370 that was just not cutting. I actually liked the 2208 02:11:12,150 --> 02:11:14,220 John C Dvorak: we liked that AI with the car piece. I just 2209 02:11:14,220 --> 02:11:15,660 suggested it was usable. 2210 02:11:16,260 --> 02:11:20,490 Adam Curry: I like the SIR Polka tour the bill as the shill. But 2211 02:11:20,490 --> 02:11:23,730 of course you pointed out that it was very unclear because the 2212 02:11:23,730 --> 02:11:27,840 Sheila was way too small for the artwork, which is always my my 2213 02:11:27,870 --> 02:11:31,620 gripe and so I couldn't get out from under that one. Obviously. 2214 02:11:32,100 --> 02:11:34,620 John C Dvorak: I didn't get that piece. Yeah, well, because we 2215 02:11:34,620 --> 02:11:37,380 Adam Curry: were talking about bills and you know, I don't know 2216 02:11:37,380 --> 02:11:41,460 it had something to do with the show at least. Maybe, maybe, 2217 02:11:41,940 --> 02:11:44,970 maybe Johnson he was not even listened to the show. He just 2218 02:11:44,970 --> 02:11:47,610 gets up in the morning looks at the news look past it looks at 2219 02:11:47,610 --> 02:11:50,160 Twitter, and I'll just do one of these. See if I can get on the 2220 02:11:50,160 --> 02:11:51,060 leaderboard. 2221 02:11:52,170 --> 02:11:54,660 John C Dvorak: Early in the game, that piece would take some 2222 02:11:54,660 --> 02:11:57,270 time. The leader versus number two 2223 02:11:57,930 --> 02:11:59,970 Adam Curry: currently now at the top 10. Ladies gentlemen at 2224 02:12:00,150 --> 02:12:03,240 number 10 Darren O'Neal comments for Blogger number nine Roger 2225 02:12:03,240 --> 02:12:05,880 round eaten that he'll be off the charts soon as he start he's 2226 02:12:06,180 --> 02:12:09,240 John C Dvorak: doing stuff from the shelf and he's basically a 2227 02:12:09,240 --> 02:12:10,650 married man with a job 2228 02:12:10,680 --> 02:12:14,310 Adam Curry: same Kenny Ben comes in at number seven. Nico Syme, 2229 02:12:14,310 --> 02:12:17,040 who's relatively new to the chart number six, correct 2230 02:12:17,040 --> 02:12:21,420 director at five Sir Paul couture. Who is the purveyor of 2231 02:12:21,420 --> 02:12:24,120 the entire Art Generator number four networks at number three, 2232 02:12:24,300 --> 02:12:27,540 Tom to kneel who just had her 16th When at number two and 2233 02:12:27,540 --> 02:12:31,620 number one on top of the chart capitalist agenda with 18 wins. 2234 02:12:31,860 --> 02:12:36,480 We also now need for next week we need to know someone went up 2235 02:12:36,480 --> 02:12:39,330 or down on the chart if someone is Oh, yeah. And the arrows we 2236 02:12:39,330 --> 02:12:42,300 need bold arrow bullets when you know if someone enters the chart 2237 02:12:42,300 --> 02:12:45,210 with a bullet. There's a full leaderboard as well. Oh my 2238 02:12:45,210 --> 02:12:48,540 goodness is there's like a full leaderboard of how many artists 2239 02:12:48,570 --> 02:12:55,560 are 213 We have 213 artists well 213 Also the all time 2240 02:12:55,560 --> 02:12:59,580 leaderboard, all time leaderboard, okay. But like 2241 02:12:59,580 --> 02:13:05,670 Nick, the rat is all time winner with 189 wins Martin J. J with 2242 02:13:05,670 --> 02:13:11,940 107. And unbelievably, the non artists Darren O'Neill, number 2243 02:13:11,940 --> 02:13:14,700 three of all time with 99 wins. 2244 02:13:15,750 --> 02:13:19,560 John C Dvorak: There was a moment in time when Nick de Rata 2245 02:13:19,560 --> 02:13:23,070 you can go look at his his page and see this. He's got pay. He's 2246 02:13:23,070 --> 02:13:28,020 got 1020 pages of art. Nick, the rat was submitting serious stuff 2247 02:13:28,020 --> 02:13:32,940 for about two or three years. And it's a still there. I mean, 2248 02:13:32,940 --> 02:13:35,040 you still look at his old stuff. And you see this that is still 2249 02:13:35,040 --> 02:13:40,440 usable. Nick the rat was really quite a phenomenon for for a 2250 02:13:40,440 --> 02:13:43,230 while. Somebody's got to start doing his own show got a big 2251 02:13:43,230 --> 02:13:45,090 head lost his touch. What Yeah, 2252 02:13:45,120 --> 02:13:49,530 Adam Curry: exactly. Once I went on the show, as a guest, then he 2253 02:13:49,530 --> 02:13:52,890 was he was just getting senators, heads of state all 2254 02:13:52,890 --> 02:13:55,110 kinds of people on his show. And you're right. And then he got me 2255 02:13:55,110 --> 02:13:57,030 on the show got me me on the show. And then you got a big 2256 02:13:57,030 --> 02:14:01,050 head and you just quit. That's not true. He has tried a few 2257 02:14:01,230 --> 02:14:04,320 things recently, once in a while does something 2258 02:14:04,530 --> 02:14:05,940 John C Dvorak: lost his touch somewhere? 2259 02:14:07,740 --> 02:14:09,660 Adam Curry: No agenda art. generator.com is where you can 2260 02:14:09,660 --> 02:14:13,410 follow along. Or if you're using that, that cool new podcast app 2261 02:14:13,410 --> 02:14:17,130 I told you about. You'll see these many of these pieces that 2262 02:14:17,130 --> 02:14:21,210 we discuss, used throughout the duration of the show, as Dred 2263 02:14:21,210 --> 02:14:26,730 Scott puts those in his chapter art. And now I believe a couple 2264 02:14:26,730 --> 02:14:33,750 of pod verse and fountain they have was at Android Auto and 2265 02:14:33,750 --> 02:14:37,500 CarPlay. So you can actually see the art change on your dashboard 2266 02:14:37,500 --> 02:14:41,040 while you're driving. Nice. Yeah, it's actually it's pretty 2267 02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:44,700 cool. Thank you very much artists. We appreciate all that 2268 02:14:44,700 --> 02:14:46,800 you do. Now we're going to thank our executive and Associate 2269 02:14:46,800 --> 02:14:51,450 Executive producers for episode 1557. We kick it off with our 2270 02:14:51,450 --> 02:14:55,740 top donor and executive producer one of two sir Scott the Jew 2271 02:14:56,010 --> 02:14:58,920 from Post Falls, Idaho who I believe also sent in a meter 2272 02:14:58,980 --> 02:15:04,140 report in the morning name John C and Adam J H NSI. Please 2273 02:15:04,140 --> 02:15:07,380 accept this donation generated at the latest North Idaho sanity 2274 02:15:07,380 --> 02:15:11,160 brigade Third Thursday monthly meetup every Oh, this is nice. 2275 02:15:11,550 --> 02:15:15,510 every attendee chipped in all via the fistful of cash plopped 2276 02:15:15,510 --> 02:15:18,450 down into the middle of the table. They're badass up there 2277 02:15:18,450 --> 02:15:22,500 in Idaho. The following people are first time donors and need 2278 02:15:22,500 --> 02:15:24,720 do you do things Claude The gypsy 2279 02:15:26,460 --> 02:15:28,290 Unknown: you've been deed deuced 2280 02:15:29,550 --> 02:15:30,420 Adam Curry: and Dave 2281 02:15:32,340 --> 02:15:34,170 Unknown: you've been deed deuced 2282 02:15:36,240 --> 02:15:40,620 Adam Curry: I like that I like it when I like it when when they 2283 02:15:40,620 --> 02:15:44,460 pitch in at the meetup that's kind of cool. Not all meetups do 2284 02:15:44,460 --> 02:15:47,580 that but I think it's a it's a good trend. Please play trains 2285 02:15:47,580 --> 02:15:50,640 good planes bad thank you for your courage and stay safe. The 2286 02:15:50,640 --> 02:15:53,340 board trains planes 2287 02:15:58,920 --> 02:16:03,240 John C Dvorak: Jack Tinkler comes in with 333 Columbus 2288 02:16:03,240 --> 02:16:07,170 Georgia. And he is noticing that's going on is that 2289 02:16:07,200 --> 02:16:11,610 MailChimp changed something and I'm not getting my my opens. 2290 02:16:11,970 --> 02:16:15,960 Watch it the normal number you buy down by bus only about 10% 2291 02:16:15,960 --> 02:16:16,800 but it's down but 2292 02:16:16,800 --> 02:16:18,900 Adam Curry: now you're blaming that on MailChimp. And not just 2293 02:16:18,900 --> 02:16:20,850 the fact that people don't read the newsletter. 2294 02:16:22,200 --> 02:16:25,920 John C Dvorak: No, I blame it on MailChimp or maybe Google 2295 02:16:25,920 --> 02:16:29,100 because Google is changing stuff all the time but I'm still my my 2296 02:16:29,130 --> 02:16:33,420 basic got the guys guys out there. Oh, the basic check is 2297 02:16:33,420 --> 02:16:35,880 where it comes through. They're still checking in with a 2298 02:16:35,880 --> 02:16:40,830 positive note. So good. I'm guessing is MailChimp Okay, all 2299 02:16:40,830 --> 02:16:44,610 right. So let's start with Jack Tinkler here in Columbus, 2300 02:16:44,610 --> 02:16:47,760 Georgia. And we're and I will say that because we got no 3333 2301 02:16:47,760 --> 02:16:52,560 threes today we just got one Jacques de douche me please. 2302 02:16:54,330 --> 02:16:56,160 Unknown: You've been de deuced 2303 02:16:57,480 --> 02:17:01,140 John C Dvorak: he was no karma PS. John and Adam. You all my 2304 02:17:01,140 --> 02:17:05,190 best friends. Ah, this is y'all I could you wouldn't do in 2305 02:17:05,190 --> 02:17:05,820 Georgia. 2306 02:17:07,170 --> 02:17:10,980 Adam Curry: Well, we're happy to be your best friends works. Then 2307 02:17:10,980 --> 02:17:13,770 we go straight to Associate Executive Producers Kenny Corson 2308 02:17:13,800 --> 02:17:19,980 in North Haven, Maine $205.19. And he says see attached note 2309 02:17:19,980 --> 02:17:22,950 which I have here. It's long, so I won't read it all. But he does 2310 02:17:22,950 --> 02:17:25,260 say in the morning, John and Adam. Adam, congratulations on 2311 02:17:25,260 --> 02:17:28,230 your anniversary. That's right. Tina and I celebrated on Friday, 2312 02:17:28,830 --> 02:17:34,770 four years of blissful marriage. And on last Monday, it was eight 2313 02:17:34,770 --> 02:17:38,070 years that we've been together. He says my wife and I happened 2314 02:17:38,070 --> 02:17:43,830 to share the same date 22 years and we've never had a fight. See 2315 02:17:43,830 --> 02:17:46,380 the last three digits of the donation This is my third 2316 02:17:46,380 --> 02:17:49,980 donation in three years, so it seems as though I should be de 2317 02:17:49,980 --> 02:17:50,340 Deus. 2318 02:17:52,049 --> 02:17:53,909 Unknown: You've been de deuced 2319 02:17:54,390 --> 02:17:56,910 Adam Curry: speaking of deuces, can you call out Chris 2320 02:17:56,910 --> 02:18:04,170 Hutchinson and Emerson tremble as douchebags nice says Enjoy 2321 02:18:04,170 --> 02:18:07,170 the first one syrup from our farm. Did you get the syrup? Did 2322 02:18:07,170 --> 02:18:07,680 we get all this? 2323 02:18:07,680 --> 02:18:09,870 John C Dvorak: Yes, I did. I have not tried it yet. But I 2324 02:18:09,870 --> 02:18:13,590 did. We also I want to mention this there's another guy I wish 2325 02:18:13,590 --> 02:18:20,130 I could find this note who sent me a couple of syrups also from 2326 02:18:20,130 --> 02:18:23,130 Pennsylvania and he sent me a handwritten note and I can't 2327 02:18:23,130 --> 02:18:25,500 find his email so I can't get back to him with a lawyer 2328 02:18:25,500 --> 02:18:33,000 advice. So the syrup he sent the commercial stuff in any sense on 2329 02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:36,270 Nicola cooking syrup which he can't sell commercially as a 2330 02:18:36,270 --> 02:18:37,170 syrup I 2331 02:18:37,170 --> 02:18:39,300 Adam Curry: got these two Yes, I got a syrup the cookies the 2332 02:18:39,300 --> 02:18:41,130 regular syrup and the cooking syrup. Yes, 2333 02:18:41,459 --> 02:18:44,159 John C Dvorak: cooking syrup, the cooking syrup if it was 2334 02:18:44,159 --> 02:18:48,059 rebranded I'm telling you this this is a money maker. Oh real 2335 02:18:48,059 --> 02:18:51,509 is cooking stuff if it's rebranded as maple flavored 2336 02:18:51,509 --> 02:18:52,859 coffee sweetener 2337 02:18:54,240 --> 02:18:55,800 Adam Curry: even though it's real stuff 2338 02:18:57,660 --> 02:19:00,510 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's real stuff but you because look you 2339 02:19:00,510 --> 02:19:04,680 know they got this it's very intense. It's very maplelea it 2340 02:19:04,680 --> 02:19:11,370 is a giant again a cappuccino. A cappuccino, cappuccino it is 2341 02:19:11,760 --> 02:19:14,940 Adam Curry: on believable now are you making cappuccinos at 2342 02:19:14,940 --> 02:19:15,930 the house these days? 2343 02:19:16,769 --> 02:19:18,269 John C Dvorak: I make cappuccinos. Sure. I've been 2344 02:19:18,269 --> 02:19:21,029 making epigenesis seven days. Now I will mention one other 2345 02:19:21,029 --> 02:19:27,359 thing. Also, I make a an iced coffee made in the in the form 2346 02:19:27,359 --> 02:19:32,969 of a chocolate egg cream. Which anyone? Do I live in Brooklyn? 2347 02:19:32,969 --> 02:19:37,439 No. So I make an iced coffee like I call it a coffee a cream. 2348 02:19:37,739 --> 02:19:43,919 I use the maple syrup in that for the sweetener. Drop dead. 2349 02:19:45,510 --> 02:19:49,260 Adam Curry: I used his cooking syrup on. This is what I do. 2350 02:19:49,530 --> 02:19:54,180 When I make salmon which I bake in the oven. I will drizzle a 2351 02:19:54,180 --> 02:19:59,760 little bit of maple syrup on top of the salmon and then I put 2352 02:19:59,760 --> 02:20:05,130 less than lemon pepper on on top of that, and this all baked in 2353 02:20:05,130 --> 02:20:09,810 the oven, and I really enjoyed the cooking maple syrup. I will 2354 02:20:09,810 --> 02:20:15,240 try it in the coffee though it's a good idea apparently he gave 2355 02:20:15,240 --> 02:20:20,160 us $3 In Canadian money and without he says it stems from 2356 02:20:20,340 --> 02:20:23,910 the comments a while but of course I people are mad about 2357 02:20:23,940 --> 02:20:27,000 the what I said about two and $1 Canadian bills. I don't know 2358 02:20:27,000 --> 02:20:29,460 what I said. But just keep up the good work. Can I get a New 2359 02:20:29,460 --> 02:20:34,350 York you said it was cheesy. And well there you go. Can I get a 2360 02:20:34,350 --> 02:20:38,790 New York Times vocal fry? My son Odin and his friend Ramy love it 2361 02:20:38,820 --> 02:20:41,910 followed by a bit of Sharpton Oh, I didn't didn't grab any 2362 02:20:41,910 --> 02:20:49,980 Sharpton for you on on our ESP ICT Yeah, I got that. 2363 02:20:50,340 --> 02:20:54,060 Unknown: You know, obviously, I re I read The New York Times 2364 02:20:54,060 --> 02:20:58,410 like all day long, mainly on my iPad 2365 02:21:03,270 --> 02:21:05,340 DSP ICT and he 2366 02:21:05,340 --> 02:21:08,970 Adam Curry: is from four acre farm in North Haven Island Maine 2367 02:21:09,000 --> 02:21:09,450 Thank you 2368 02:21:11,940 --> 02:21:18,510 John C Dvorak: Eric sank my her in Fort Gratiot there's a way 2369 02:21:18,510 --> 02:21:20,400 pronouncing I don't remember how 2370 02:21:20,580 --> 02:21:23,610 Adam Curry: Gratiot Grusha he's almost at it right brush rash 2371 02:21:23,610 --> 02:21:27,180 hit or grass grass grass you kind of swallow the ship but 2372 02:21:27,180 --> 02:21:27,960 it's brush it 2373 02:21:29,460 --> 02:21:33,810 John C Dvorak: in Michigan night Mr. Eric I got a there's an 2374 02:21:33,810 --> 02:21:38,160 Osprey flying around here I heard it you're gonna hear it is 2375 02:21:38,160 --> 02:21:39,390 it a very noisy no 2376 02:21:39,390 --> 02:21:40,860 Adam Curry: I heard I heard it a minute ago I heard a 2377 02:21:40,890 --> 02:21:42,270 breakthrough this to the nice 2378 02:21:42,270 --> 02:21:47,160 John C Dvorak: me sir Erica V old forge consulting change of 2379 02:21:47,160 --> 02:21:53,820 career Oh, I'm sorry considering change of career night Mr. Eric 2380 02:21:53,820 --> 02:21:58,320 of ye old forge considering change of career. One offer in 2381 02:21:58,320 --> 02:22:02,820 hand hoping to beat it. smokin hot wife just got hotter jobs 2382 02:22:02,820 --> 02:22:07,500 karma milk goat got coded message one mother 2383 02:22:07,500 --> 02:22:08,220 Unknown: I'd like to 2384 02:22:08,220 --> 02:22:14,430 have jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. 2385 02:22:19,440 --> 02:22:23,340 Adam Curry: And we're at 200 from Lucas diamine. faced the 2386 02:22:23,340 --> 02:22:27,930 Netherlands. This is the yearly 2022 podcast fee that was still 2387 02:22:27,930 --> 02:22:31,050 pending. Yes. I hope everyone realizes there's fee for 2388 02:22:31,050 --> 02:22:34,770 listening to this show. Also, you should make me a Baronet. In 2389 02:22:34,770 --> 02:22:39,960 this case Baronet of the Miller Thol Luxenberg Mueller Thol 2390 02:22:39,960 --> 02:22:43,410 Luxenberg keep up podcasting Special thanks to the troll room 2391 02:22:43,410 --> 02:22:48,270 for correcting Adam Lucas time from goosfest All right thank 2392 02:22:48,270 --> 02:22:48,720 you very much 2393 02:22:48,720 --> 02:22:50,760 John C Dvorak: I think he's he actually on the list I think we 2394 02:22:50,760 --> 02:22:51,420 have an error 2395 02:22:51,450 --> 02:22:58,710 Adam Curry: No I believe we do have let me see where's my I 2396 02:22:58,710 --> 02:23:03,090 remember seeing a title change? Yes. Oh no. Then we don't have 2397 02:23:03,090 --> 02:23:06,960 him on the list. I shall add him now while we do this. Lucas 2398 02:23:06,960 --> 02:23:14,310 timer. Okay. And he is Baronet he's a bear net Baron Baron net 2399 02:23:15,870 --> 02:23:17,730 you can go ahead and do the next one on where 2400 02:23:17,730 --> 02:23:20,610 John C Dvorak: we divide count of British Columbia and Langley 2401 02:23:20,910 --> 02:23:25,170 BC just enjoying the weekend Oh jingles no karma the vibe kind 2402 02:23:25,170 --> 02:23:28,080 of British Columbia we can give him a double up karma happy to 2403 02:23:28,080 --> 02:23:28,380 do it. 2404 02:23:30,450 --> 02:23:33,990 Unknown: You've got karma 2405 02:23:36,870 --> 02:23:42,360 Adam Curry: All right, then we That's it. No, we have Charlotte 2406 02:23:42,360 --> 02:23:46,500 and Worcester Worcester from San Francisco that also a note that 2407 02:23:46,500 --> 02:23:51,180 was sent in which I happen to have here as well. Charlotte 2408 02:23:51,180 --> 02:23:57,480 says, Those $200 It's Worcester Worcester Worcester as a 2409 02:23:57,480 --> 02:24:00,810 pronunciation guide. werster shouted worse start. John and 2410 02:24:00,810 --> 02:24:03,630 Adam time to make a donation Your show is a national and 2411 02:24:03,630 --> 02:24:06,780 international treasure. So here's my donation to the 2412 02:24:06,780 --> 02:24:09,930 treasure chest. Thanks for bouncing heavy topics with 2413 02:24:12,360 --> 02:24:13,380 John C Dvorak: Lucky hilarity 2414 02:24:13,380 --> 02:24:17,460 Adam Curry: jocular jocularity. wittiness and occasional sarcasm 2415 02:24:17,490 --> 02:24:20,940 or we try not to do too much sarcasm. much gratitude from San 2416 02:24:20,940 --> 02:24:26,580 Francisco, California. Charlotte Wooster. All right, Charlotte 2417 02:24:26,610 --> 02:24:30,180 Wooster. It's our pleasure. Thank you very much. And these 2418 02:24:30,180 --> 02:24:33,030 are executive and Associate Executive Producers shortlist, 2419 02:24:33,450 --> 02:24:36,690 which means it'll be real easy for you to get top billing on 2420 02:24:36,690 --> 02:24:40,830 the next show. That's usually the way it works. If you'd like 2421 02:24:40,830 --> 02:24:47,310 to support us go here valora.org/and A and we've got a 2422 02:24:47,400 --> 02:24:49,860 title change and we have a couple of people joining the 2423 02:24:49,860 --> 02:24:52,350 roundtable and some meetups. John is going to take us through 2424 02:24:52,350 --> 02:24:53,130 the 50s 2425 02:24:53,699 --> 02:24:57,029 John C Dvorak: Yeah, let's go for the rest of these folk. Amy 2426 02:24:57,029 --> 02:25:02,909 Zipkin in Greensboro, Georgia came in with 150 fives 70 She 2427 02:25:02,909 --> 02:25:05,969 says mate, everybody out there considering supporting the good 2428 02:25:05,969 --> 02:25:10,889 work have no agenda. Thank you. Jason Bible in Austin, Texas 2429 02:25:10,889 --> 02:25:18,239 120 12 I Aaron Campbell in Come on, can we Kemah Texas 100 scale 2430 02:25:18,239 --> 02:25:27,149 kilberry In Belfair sky kilberry In Belfair Washington 100 He's 2431 02:25:27,149 --> 02:25:31,739 on testosterone therapy and hasn't noticed any rage. Yeah 2432 02:25:31,739 --> 02:25:35,069 we'll know if your wife is doing done right it should be Are you 2433 02:25:35,069 --> 02:25:35,669 a girl or 2434 02:25:35,940 --> 02:25:36,900 Adam Curry: are you a girl? 2435 02:25:38,880 --> 02:25:41,730 John C Dvorak: Are you okay with this? Skype is a busy 2436 02:25:41,940 --> 02:25:43,080 androgynous name we 2437 02:25:43,080 --> 02:25:44,310 Adam Curry: don't know I'm just saying. 2438 02:25:45,480 --> 02:25:49,740 John C Dvorak: Tao let Zheng was in in Santa Clara, California. 2439 02:25:50,130 --> 02:25:55,920 100 No jingles no karma. Lisa, Maya Maya, in a bitter a Bitter 2440 02:25:55,920 --> 02:25:58,830 Springs in Louisiana as the best 100 It's 2441 02:25:58,830 --> 02:25:59,970 Adam Curry: not too much. Just a bit. 2442 02:26:00,689 --> 02:26:03,329 John C Dvorak: Just a bit of springs. Brian Lillard and 2443 02:26:03,329 --> 02:26:08,879 prosper Texas. 8888. David Byrne in Staten Island, New York 2444 02:26:08,909 --> 02:26:17,219 eight. Adam Frederick in orange, Vermont. 8066. Let's see if we 2445 02:26:17,219 --> 02:26:20,459 get to who we're looking for. There he is. Yeah, McLaughlin 2446 02:26:20,459 --> 02:26:24,809 and Lucas North Carolina. 808. Lover of boobs. Cherylin 2447 02:26:24,809 --> 02:26:30,959 Phillips and Mead. Washington. 7337. Sir Vegas in Las Vegas 2448 02:26:31,319 --> 02:26:37,679 6954. A birthday donation for himself. Coming up at J Canyon 2449 02:26:37,679 --> 02:26:45,089 in cab book tour. Australia names are great Cabo tour. I'm 2450 02:26:45,089 --> 02:26:48,749 thinking 6262 And he's a birthday shout out we got you on 2451 02:26:48,749 --> 02:26:49,259 the list also 2452 02:26:49,260 --> 02:26:52,560 Adam Curry: needs an F karma for F cancer recovery. Karma. We'll 2453 02:26:52,560 --> 02:26:53,340 do that in a minute. 2454 02:26:54,480 --> 02:26:59,130 John C Dvorak: Robert wills in Riverside, California. 5566. Ask 2455 02:26:59,130 --> 02:27:04,080 her if he saw Efteling in Holland and if Disney copied 2456 02:27:04,080 --> 02:27:09,000 him. No. No. No. 2457 02:27:09,270 --> 02:27:10,440 Adam Curry: No cancer No. 2458 02:27:11,100 --> 02:27:15,390 John C Dvorak: Troy funder Buck funderburk in Spokane, 2459 02:27:15,390 --> 02:27:20,610 Washington. 55. Sir Polly Bravo in Greeley Colorado. 52 at Baron 2460 02:27:20,610 --> 02:27:24,660 Henry in Rancho Rancho Palos Verdes. So did you 42 Bob Butler 2461 02:27:24,660 --> 02:27:31,470 in coming Georgia 5069 Andrew bends in Imperial Sir Andrew in 2462 02:27:31,470 --> 02:27:35,370 Imperial Missouri 5005 And the following people as you wrap 2463 02:27:35,370 --> 02:27:39,990 this up are $50 donors and I get your you that their names and 2464 02:27:39,990 --> 02:27:42,840 the location starting with Andrew gusik in Greensboro, 2465 02:27:42,840 --> 02:27:46,680 North Carolina Joe Oswald in Lithia, Florida. Chris Cowan in 2466 02:27:46,680 --> 02:27:49,650 Austin, Texas, Robert case in Mill spring North Carolina, 2467 02:27:49,860 --> 02:27:53,430 Christie Jones in demorest, Georgia, a lot of Georgians, 2468 02:27:54,510 --> 02:27:59,430 Matt Illingworth in Montclair, New Jersey, Molly Swift, in 2469 02:27:59,430 --> 02:28:03,360 Jefferson City, Missouri with a birthday dandruff. Daniel laboy. 2470 02:28:05,070 --> 02:28:08,670 Sir Daniel in Bath Michigan, Julian Robinson Aptos. 2471 02:28:08,670 --> 02:28:12,690 California, Nicholas Ruda, which, in Harpers Ferry West 2472 02:28:12,690 --> 02:28:22,980 Virginia, anonymous, in Toronto. He's in at a tobiko Maryland 2473 02:28:22,980 --> 02:28:27,510 Plaza and Garwood in New Jersey. Alan being in Beaverton, Oregon 2474 02:28:27,510 --> 02:28:31,230 serve Baron Allenby, Lian Shipley and Covington, 2475 02:28:31,230 --> 02:28:34,860 Washington and last but not least, surgery wing and Roth and 2476 02:28:34,860 --> 02:28:39,630 Michael stadium juries in Saugus, California Michaels God 2477 02:28:39,630 --> 02:28:40,170 knows where 2478 02:28:43,170 --> 02:28:46,350 Adam Curry: okay, then we made just two things that we do have 2479 02:28:46,350 --> 02:28:50,760 a little bit of time so because of the low number of donors we 2480 02:28:50,760 --> 02:28:54,720 have the F cancer recovery karma as requested we got that for 2481 02:28:54,720 --> 02:29:07,320 you. You've got karma that was I guess for him Jess or Jacob the 2482 02:29:07,320 --> 02:29:13,680 IT and Molly Swift. She donated $50 and requested a de douching 2483 02:29:13,680 --> 02:29:17,460 of her quote shit hot pilot boyfriend Rob who's turning 28 2484 02:29:17,460 --> 02:29:23,010 on the 23rd which is coming up. You've been de Deus. He 2485 02:29:23,010 --> 02:29:25,410 apparently hit her in the mouth three years ago during COVID 2486 02:29:25,410 --> 02:29:27,540 avid listeners ever since please give him a biscuit on his 2487 02:29:27,540 --> 02:29:31,020 birthday. Always give me a biscuit on my birthday. And we 2488 02:29:31,020 --> 02:29:34,200 thank you all also people who came in under $50 For reasons of 2489 02:29:34,200 --> 02:29:36,870 anonymity, you know who you are. Or maybe you're on one of those 2490 02:29:36,870 --> 02:29:40,290 many programs that are sustaining donations which we 2491 02:29:40,290 --> 02:29:46,470 need today. Now more than ever learn how here for.org/and And 2492 02:29:46,470 --> 02:29:49,290 thank you once again for supporting the number one best 2493 02:29:49,290 --> 02:29:50,910 podcast in the universe. 2494 02:29:50,970 --> 02:29:55,350 Unknown: Our formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the 2495 02:29:55,350 --> 02:30:00,120 mouth To 2496 02:30:15,719 --> 02:30:18,659 Adam Curry: the listener a sir Jakey it Brogan wishes his dad 2497 02:30:18,659 --> 02:30:23,429 Jeff King and a happy birthday turned 62 yesterday it's running 2498 02:30:23,429 --> 02:30:26,099 it's Molly Swift. She just heard whispers are shit hot pilot 2499 02:30:26,099 --> 02:30:30,119 boyfriend rob a happy birthday turning 28 on the 23rd Sir Vegas 2500 02:30:30,119 --> 02:30:33,839 Ray turns 54 on the 23rd and also celebrating on the 23rd 2501 02:30:33,839 --> 02:30:37,079 Mike Schultz, happy birthday to all these people from the best 2502 02:30:37,079 --> 02:30:38,459 podcast in the universe 2503 02:30:47,700 --> 02:30:51,420 don't want to be induced, we've got two title changes. We have 2504 02:30:51,600 --> 02:30:55,050 barons or economic hitman upgrades to buy cows another 2505 02:30:55,050 --> 02:30:58,140 $1,000 checkup to his account. Thank you very much. And Lucas 2506 02:30:58,140 --> 02:31:02,130 Taya we just heard is now the Baronet of the mirror Tao 2507 02:31:02,130 --> 02:31:05,580 Luxembourg and we thank the Baronet welcome him to that 2508 02:31:05,580 --> 02:31:08,550 appeared status along with our brand new Vikon thank you both 2509 02:31:08,550 --> 02:31:14,130 very much. We have one only one today on the on the roundtable. 2510 02:31:14,610 --> 02:31:19,350 Eric And he sent in a notes greetings from Baron soon to be 2511 02:31:19,710 --> 02:31:24,570 oh that was the economic hitman. Oh, that was his note. Well how 2512 02:31:24,570 --> 02:31:29,850 did we get to how to get Eric sink Meyer in there? Hmm. 2513 02:31:30,270 --> 02:31:31,980 Interesting. So we already he 2514 02:31:31,980 --> 02:31:35,790 John C Dvorak: came in with a bunch of like $4 over a period 2515 02:31:35,790 --> 02:31:36,630 or something he's 2516 02:31:37,050 --> 02:31:39,780 Adam Curry: I don't have a note on how he got it. I think there 2517 02:31:39,780 --> 02:31:42,510 is a note but it doesn't matter because I've got a sword for 2518 02:31:42,510 --> 02:31:43,980 him. Do you have a sword for him? 2519 02:31:44,250 --> 02:31:46,710 John C Dvorak: Course I got the good one. That's nice after 2520 02:31:46,710 --> 02:31:47,520 you're complaining 2521 02:31:48,900 --> 02:31:51,630 Adam Curry: look out for that good blade Eric sank Meyer hop 2522 02:31:51,630 --> 02:31:54,450 up on the podium here You my friend are about to become a 2523 02:31:54,450 --> 02:31:56,460 knight of the no agenda roundtable thanks for your 2524 02:31:56,460 --> 02:31:59,250 contribution the amount of $1,000 or more. Doesn't matter 2525 02:31:59,250 --> 02:32:03,030 how long it takes or how you get there. We welcome you and I am 2526 02:32:03,030 --> 02:32:07,170 very proud to pronounce the king D as Sir Eric of ye old Forge. 2527 02:32:07,260 --> 02:32:09,600 Yes for you. 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And they include some wax 2538 02:32:42,450 --> 02:32:45,270 to seal your importance correspondence with and of 2539 02:32:45,270 --> 02:32:47,910 course a certificate of authenticity and we thank you 2540 02:32:48,060 --> 02:32:51,330 very much for supporting the no agenda show. No one 2541 02:32:58,350 --> 02:33:02,340 no agenda. They take place everywhere around the world. A 2542 02:33:02,340 --> 02:33:06,030 lot of the big ones seem to be in Indiana or the Netherlands is 2543 02:33:06,030 --> 02:33:11,160 just saying. Now there was a an inaugural Huntsville Alabama 2544 02:33:11,160 --> 02:33:14,910 meet up Tom Thomas Gallucci shepherded that he says it was a 2545 02:33:14,910 --> 02:33:18,600 smashing success. 100% of the folks who RSVP attended, there 2546 02:33:18,600 --> 02:33:23,340 were four of them and all Dave certificate Boomer Bob and 2547 02:33:23,340 --> 02:33:26,490 himself Professor Tom many stories were swapped over adult 2548 02:33:26,490 --> 02:33:30,390 beverages and he wants to remind everybody that you too can even 2549 02:33:30,390 --> 02:33:32,520 if you're not a knight or Dame you can get your no agenda 2550 02:33:32,520 --> 02:33:35,790 sealing wax, which is wax for your ceiling at no agenda 2551 02:33:35,790 --> 02:33:38,910 sealing wax.com And he was wearing his T shirt during the 2552 02:33:38,910 --> 02:33:42,570 meetup we had a couple others East Bay meetup took place you 2553 02:33:42,570 --> 02:33:44,100 should have been at the East Bay meet up 2554 02:33:44,640 --> 02:33:46,860 John C Dvorak: you know I was thinking about it last show and 2555 02:33:46,860 --> 02:33:48,330 then I forgot all about it. 2556 02:33:48,360 --> 02:33:51,270 Adam Curry: Oh man, I'm gonna have to have a system because 2557 02:33:51,870 --> 02:33:55,260 the chicks dig you man. Live from the divided and conquered 2558 02:33:55,260 --> 02:33:56,850 East Bay meet up this is lavish, 2559 02:33:57,000 --> 02:34:00,150 Unknown: deep in the bowels of FEMA Region nine it's the Cali 2560 02:34:00,150 --> 02:34:02,460 flat smacker spaces fake. 2561 02:34:02,550 --> 02:34:05,340 John C Dvorak: This is sort of WD 40 making it all the way 2562 02:34:05,340 --> 02:34:06,870 across the Bay Bridge to be here. 2563 02:34:07,020 --> 02:34:10,050 Unknown: This is just one one of the Jains is not a night yet in 2564 02:34:10,050 --> 02:34:10,680 the morning. 2565 02:34:11,040 --> 02:34:14,700 This is James from Alameda. There's no real conflict 2566 02:34:14,820 --> 02:34:18,750 Adam Curry: in the morning. And in the Netherlands in Leiden, 2567 02:34:18,750 --> 02:34:21,930 it's where all the students hang out they were studious all right 2568 02:34:21,930 --> 02:34:23,130 and stoned. 2569 02:34:25,980 --> 02:34:26,760 John C Dvorak: From Life 2570 02:34:27,630 --> 02:34:30,960 Unknown: here is the group he is one of the organizers finisher 2571 02:34:30,960 --> 02:34:33,960 row bear in Rob in the morning 2572 02:34:34,170 --> 02:34:40,230 douche bag sure doors from the your Eclipse cycle room 2573 02:34:40,860 --> 02:34:45,630 somewhere surrounded by serves in a barrel at just about in the 2574 02:34:45,630 --> 02:34:47,460 morning. I'll do the ROTC greetings. 2575 02:34:47,820 --> 02:34:52,350 Sebastian in the morning. In the morning in the morning, Ruth in 2576 02:34:52,350 --> 02:34:56,610 the morning the Chinese lady of the Lithuanian butt plug in the 2577 02:34:56,610 --> 02:34:58,860 morning. Finger here. 2578 02:34:59,190 --> 02:35:00,810 This is our group Good morning 2579 02:35:02,639 --> 02:35:04,709 Adam Curry: they were very relaxed North Idaho sanity 2580 02:35:04,709 --> 02:35:07,049 brigade also had their meet up sent in the final report for 2581 02:35:07,049 --> 02:35:07,889 today once again 2582 02:35:07,890 --> 02:35:11,340 Unknown: at the Selkirk Abbey in Post Falls Idaho it's sir Scott 2583 02:35:11,340 --> 02:35:14,820 the Jew and it's not that the CIA landed this meeting is that 2584 02:35:14,820 --> 02:35:16,620 they couldn't prevent it from happening. 2585 02:35:16,650 --> 02:35:19,830 morning y'all. It's Tucker from Edmonton, Alberta. The Earth may 2586 02:35:19,830 --> 02:35:22,170 be flat after all the earth is flat 2587 02:35:22,170 --> 02:35:26,970 sir le fine. I've had a great time here and Idaho and now I'm 2588 02:35:26,970 --> 02:35:30,480 heading to Texas. So look out Adam, I'm coming for you. Yes, 2589 02:35:30,480 --> 02:35:31,320 sir. Devo 2590 02:35:31,320 --> 02:35:35,580 here spooky Jason shapeshifting to get my fix on Tiktok clouds a 2591 02:35:35,580 --> 02:35:36,240 gypsy showed 2592 02:35:36,240 --> 02:35:38,910 up after to no shows and I'm converting everyone to flatter 2593 02:35:38,939 --> 02:35:43,379 Dave Gibson. Not all of us been converted to Flat Earthers I 2594 02:35:43,379 --> 02:35:46,259 know Bob here this Meetup is a part of the Russian playbook. 2595 02:35:48,120 --> 02:35:51,210 Adam Curry: And here's what's happening today meetup wise the 2596 02:35:51,210 --> 02:35:56,910 505 meetup in Albuquerque, New Mexico so they are probably 2597 02:35:56,910 --> 02:36:00,030 still underway. This is Jeff tobique. Who is hosting that sir 2598 02:36:00,030 --> 02:36:03,900 Jeff? Crossroads of America tribes outside prodigy addition 2599 02:36:04,140 --> 02:36:07,050 that is underway in Indianapolis, Indiana the 2600 02:36:07,050 --> 02:36:11,730 Prodigy burger bar, the Bitcoin pizza day 2023 In Rotolo ZPizza 2601 02:36:11,730 --> 02:36:15,690 Longview, Texas, sir dirty Jersey whore hosting that and on 2602 02:36:15,690 --> 02:36:19,260 Thursday the next show day North Georgia monthly meet up six 2603 02:36:19,260 --> 02:36:22,230 o'clock at the barley garden, the rooftop look for the 33 2604 02:36:22,230 --> 02:36:25,860 Golden balloons in Alpharetta, Georgia. And one more at the 2605 02:36:25,860 --> 02:36:29,490 Roadhouse. 630 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado. 2606 02:36:30,090 --> 02:36:33,960 That's just a smattering of meetups that you can enjoy. They 2607 02:36:33,990 --> 02:36:36,570 are all over the world, they go all the way through the end of 2608 02:36:36,570 --> 02:36:43,050 June. And you do not want to be one of those people who, like 2609 02:36:43,050 --> 02:36:46,170 John has a meetup happening right near you and you miss out. 2610 02:36:48,030 --> 02:36:51,840 Again, we keep a straight face. Go to no agenda meetups.com Take 2611 02:36:51,840 --> 02:36:55,200 a look find one near you look for your state you can even see 2612 02:36:55,200 --> 02:36:58,410 some meetup reports you can you know what you can do if you 2613 02:36:58,410 --> 02:37:01,350 can't find anything near you start one yourself no agenda 2614 02:37:01,350 --> 02:37:03,060 meetup.com It's easy. 2615 02:37:07,260 --> 02:37:17,880 Unknown: Day you won't be triggered. Everybody feels the 2616 02:37:17,880 --> 02:37:24,000 same. It's like it is 2617 02:37:25,620 --> 02:37:28,770 Adam Curry: I only have one, one ISO and I didn't even play the 2618 02:37:28,770 --> 02:37:31,590 clip that the ISO was taken from a field. That's interesting. You 2619 02:37:31,590 --> 02:37:35,130 only have one like a dope. You'll also only have one. Yeah. 2620 02:37:35,400 --> 02:37:38,280 Well, I'm since I went first. The last two times. I'm gonna 2621 02:37:38,280 --> 02:37:43,170 play yours first. Okay, here we go. Thank you. Thank you. Here's 2622 02:37:43,170 --> 02:37:43,560 mine. 2623 02:37:43,890 --> 02:37:45,870 Unknown: Hello, Bitcoiners. 2624 02:37:47,850 --> 02:37:48,630 John C Dvorak: I couldn't hear it. 2625 02:37:49,470 --> 02:37:52,650 Adam Curry: Okay, I'll play which disqualifies it right off 2626 02:37:52,650 --> 02:37:57,390 the bat. I'm gonna play this clip for you. This is a 2627 02:37:57,570 --> 02:38:03,690 presidential candidate, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. who was out on 2628 02:38:03,690 --> 02:38:09,030 the campaign trail. And he stopped off at the Bitcoin 2023 2629 02:38:09,030 --> 02:38:10,590 conference in Miami. 2630 02:38:11,040 --> 02:38:19,350 Unknown: Hello, Bitcoiners. There's a lot of people who are 2631 02:38:19,350 --> 02:38:25,230 not in this room for whom Bitcoin may seem an issue that's 2632 02:38:25,230 --> 02:38:29,670 too trivial for a presidential campaign. David Bailey at a 2633 02:38:29,700 --> 02:38:35,100 party that we were at last night asked me how I sold on Bitcoin. 2634 02:38:35,790 --> 02:38:39,930 And I told them that it happened to me in an instance, when I saw 2635 02:38:39,930 --> 02:38:42,960 the truckers what happened at the trucker strike in Ottawa. 2636 02:38:43,890 --> 02:38:44,310 And 2637 02:38:46,050 --> 02:38:48,060 Adam Curry: I thought this is really interesting. He did a 2638 02:38:48,060 --> 02:38:53,520 keynote address 25 minutes, knew what he was talking about. And I 2639 02:38:53,520 --> 02:38:56,880 think it was very interesting content constituency to go 2640 02:38:56,880 --> 02:38:57,420 after. 2641 02:38:58,770 --> 02:39:01,680 John C Dvorak: It's pretty big. Yeah, I think he's, well, the 2642 02:39:01,680 --> 02:39:06,090 guy. The guy could beat Joe Biden, if they actually let him. 2643 02:39:06,990 --> 02:39:11,700 If they covered him, honestly. They're not going to do that. 2644 02:39:13,200 --> 02:39:15,270 You know, there's a fact that you can even get that clip as 2645 02:39:15,270 --> 02:39:15,900 amazing. 2646 02:39:18,330 --> 02:39:20,610 Adam Curry: Well, it's the Bitcoin Conference. They do 2647 02:39:20,610 --> 02:39:26,310 protect. They're pretty good about getting the word out. I'm 2648 02:39:26,310 --> 02:39:32,610 hearing people who traditionally might vote Republican discussing 2649 02:39:32,610 --> 02:39:38,040 him as a potential. Yeah, I think that's interesting. 2650 02:39:38,520 --> 02:39:40,650 John C Dvorak: It is. The whole thing is interesting. I think 2651 02:39:40,650 --> 02:39:44,310 he's a good candidate. Except you're not gonna let him win. 2652 02:39:46,620 --> 02:39:50,040 Adam Curry: Yeah, that's, that's usually usually it's followed by 2653 02:39:50,160 --> 02:39:52,740 but he won't win because the elections are rigged. That's 2654 02:39:52,740 --> 02:39:55,230 usually how the conference 2655 02:39:56,880 --> 02:39:59,370 John C Dvorak: is rigged. You don't have to rig the elections 2656 02:39:59,370 --> 02:40:01,470 if you just keep Get the guy, you know, it's like they did 2657 02:40:01,470 --> 02:40:06,450 with as it will go back to 2016 when Bernie Sanders was a viable 2658 02:40:06,450 --> 02:40:10,200 candidate, right, he would draw the same crowds, the same and 2659 02:40:10,200 --> 02:40:13,860 massive crowds and Trump did. Yeah. But they would never let 2660 02:40:13,860 --> 02:40:15,390 him they would never cover it. 2661 02:40:15,720 --> 02:40:20,040 Adam Curry: Well, and that was in the in the DNC emails in case 2662 02:40:20,070 --> 02:40:24,150 everyone forgot there was ample evidence that the Clinton 2663 02:40:24,150 --> 02:40:27,120 campaign had basically screwed Bernie Sanders over. 2664 02:40:27,810 --> 02:40:29,880 John C Dvorak: Yeah, they screwed him over and and what's 2665 02:40:29,880 --> 02:40:33,390 her name out of Florida, that horrible woman that's the still 2666 02:40:33,390 --> 02:40:38,490 in the Congress, Debbie Wasserman Schultz. She had been 2667 02:40:38,490 --> 02:40:42,900 running the demo to DNC and she made it clear in her emails that 2668 02:40:42,900 --> 02:40:45,840 they weren't going to let Bernie get anywhere. So they just told 2669 02:40:45,840 --> 02:40:50,040 the media, hey, media people, you'd listen to us don't cover 2670 02:40:50,040 --> 02:40:52,770 these big events that he's having a goal these kids coming 2671 02:40:52,770 --> 02:40:55,950 out because he would, you know, he's too much chance that he 2672 02:40:55,950 --> 02:40:57,780 could upset the applecart. You 2673 02:40:57,780 --> 02:40:59,910 Adam Curry: had a thing going on with with the young kids, they 2674 02:41:00,060 --> 02:41:02,910 was like grandpa Bernie, and they thought it was endearing. 2675 02:41:02,910 --> 02:41:06,000 And you know, it's a socialist people like that the young kids 2676 02:41:06,000 --> 02:41:08,130 think that's all cool and groovy. It's not your grandpa, 2677 02:41:08,130 --> 02:41:11,100 socialism. It's a new kind of new kind of socialism. 2678 02:41:11,460 --> 02:41:14,010 John C Dvorak: But he was cut off at the knees. So that's what 2679 02:41:14,010 --> 02:41:14,370 you do, 2680 02:41:14,430 --> 02:41:16,950 Adam Curry: and all and he only did his will good. He didn't 2681 02:41:16,950 --> 02:41:19,620 even he didn't even fight. No, of course 2682 02:41:19,620 --> 02:41:21,480 John C Dvorak: not. Because he's a good, he's a good boy. 2683 02:41:21,660 --> 02:41:25,500 Adam Curry: There's a good little Democrat. Now, on the 2684 02:41:25,500 --> 02:41:25,830 heels, 2685 02:41:25,830 --> 02:41:27,870 John C Dvorak: we know he's an independent technically, which 2686 02:41:27,870 --> 02:41:29,730 makes it funnier on the heels 2687 02:41:29,730 --> 02:41:38,280 Adam Curry: of, of RFK Jr's speech, and he went into quite 2688 02:41:38,280 --> 02:41:43,200 some detail about the Canadian truckers protest. And he said, 2689 02:41:43,200 --> 02:41:46,890 you know, this is exactly what they plan to do with Central 2690 02:41:46,890 --> 02:41:49,920 Bank digital currencies or, or money that the that the 2691 02:41:49,920 --> 02:41:54,390 government will control through programmability. And he made a 2692 02:41:54,390 --> 02:41:57,990 very good case. And I think we would agree with that. And lo 2693 02:41:57,990 --> 02:42:01,800 and behold, the Bank of Canada, which is also the Central Bank 2694 02:42:01,800 --> 02:42:05,880 of Canada, all in a way, they're their money printing Federal 2695 02:42:05,880 --> 02:42:08,160 Reserve, they came out with a pitch 2696 02:42:13,020 --> 02:42:15,900 Unknown: how Canadians pay for everyday things is changing. 2697 02:42:17,910 --> 02:42:21,480 Some are using less cash in favor of other payment methods. 2698 02:42:22,440 --> 02:42:25,500 To keep up with the changing ways that people pay at the Bank 2699 02:42:25,500 --> 02:42:29,730 of Canada is exploring a digital Canadian dollar, also known as a 2700 02:42:29,730 --> 02:42:33,900 central bank, digital currency. Simply put, this would be a 2701 02:42:33,900 --> 02:42:37,920 digital version of cash, but it wouldn't replace cash, it would 2702 02:42:37,920 --> 02:42:41,340 have the same dollar value, and it would be accessible to anyone 2703 02:42:41,340 --> 02:42:46,080 and everyone. You could use this digital Canadian dollar to buy 2704 02:42:46,080 --> 02:42:50,100 everyday things, just like you use cash or a bank card, but it 2705 02:42:50,100 --> 02:42:54,960 would be different. Unlike cash, you wouldn't need to carry 2706 02:42:54,960 --> 02:43:00,600 multiple bills or change. Like a bank card, it would work for 2707 02:43:00,600 --> 02:43:05,880 both in person and online purchases. Similar to bank 2708 02:43:05,880 --> 02:43:09,330 notes, it could possibly still be used when the internet is not 2709 02:43:09,330 --> 02:43:13,410 available. Just like the cash in your wallet, it wouldn't earn 2710 02:43:13,410 --> 02:43:19,320 interest. But it would be secure and private. You could keep your 2711 02:43:19,320 --> 02:43:23,760 digital dollar securely on a phone or a card or another 2712 02:43:23,760 --> 02:43:28,380 device. At this point at the Bank of Canada, we're still 2713 02:43:28,380 --> 02:43:31,110 studying the possibility of issuing a digital Canadian 2714 02:43:31,110 --> 02:43:36,720 dollar and how it might work. Tell us what you think about a 2715 02:43:36,720 --> 02:43:39,210 digital Canadian dollar by taking part in our public 2716 02:43:39,210 --> 02:43:39,930 consultation. 2717 02:43:42,300 --> 02:43:44,370 Adam Curry: You better run over there. People tell him no 2718 02:43:46,200 --> 02:43:48,420 John C Dvorak: different than a traditional credit card which 2719 02:43:48,450 --> 02:43:51,150 works without the Internet. Remember those old cars he used 2720 02:43:51,150 --> 02:43:53,370 to have an embossed thing you put in the little machine is 2721 02:43:53,370 --> 02:43:54,660 scraped back and fourth. 2722 02:43:54,870 --> 02:43:57,090 Adam Curry: I am not as though I love 2723 02:43:57,360 --> 02:43:59,130 John C Dvorak: didn't need the internet. 2724 02:44:00,870 --> 02:44:03,150 Adam Curry: Those were the best. I love those. 2725 02:44:03,540 --> 02:44:05,160 John C Dvorak: I have two of those old machines. 2726 02:44:05,760 --> 02:44:08,280 Adam Curry: Yeah, you got them from the bank. I know it I 2727 02:44:08,280 --> 02:44:11,280 remember when they're like hey mechanic's bank. Hey, just give 2728 02:44:11,280 --> 02:44:13,710 me just you just oh yeah, we need to take some credit cards. 2729 02:44:13,710 --> 02:44:16,410 Just give me those. It doesn't you just wanted to have them. 2730 02:44:16,500 --> 02:44:18,960 John C Dvorak: That was the Yeah, that's the good old days 2731 02:44:18,960 --> 02:44:20,790 when the bank Oh, yeah. Here's one take it. 2732 02:44:21,150 --> 02:44:22,950 Adam Curry: Remember you if you're in a cab and you were 2733 02:44:23,130 --> 02:44:26,550 stocking to have any cash than that, you know, take your card 2734 02:44:26,550 --> 02:44:30,210 and then you put it on a book, like the Koran, and then you rub 2735 02:44:30,210 --> 02:44:31,950 it with the pantry right? 2736 02:44:32,640 --> 02:44:35,700 John C Dvorak: was true. The Koran is blasphemy 2737 02:44:35,910 --> 02:44:38,730 Adam Curry: in New York City. I've seen it done. I've seen it 2738 02:44:38,730 --> 02:44:39,090 done. 2739 02:44:39,990 --> 02:44:41,880 John C Dvorak: I have a couple of clips I want to play on the 2740 02:44:41,880 --> 02:44:42,690 default. 2741 02:44:43,410 --> 02:44:46,830 Adam Curry: Oh yes, we still defaulting. What I read was The 2742 02:44:46,860 --> 02:44:50,220 Kevin McCarthy House Leader Kevin McCarthy said he could not 2743 02:44:50,220 --> 02:44:54,450 negotiate until Biden returned from the g7 Mike No more no camp 2744 02:44:54,450 --> 02:44:55,230 can't do it. 2745 02:44:56,760 --> 02:44:58,740 John C Dvorak: Here's a couple of clips. So this isn't about 2746 02:44:58,740 --> 02:45:02,670 the default or anything. This was just kind of some clips that 2747 02:45:02,670 --> 02:45:07,950 has say something I think is interesting. This is notes on 2748 02:45:07,950 --> 02:45:09,510 default, a usual 2749 02:45:10,860 --> 02:45:13,380 Unknown: because they've done work on behalf of US taxpayer. 2750 02:45:13,650 --> 02:45:17,070 We also owe a whole lot of people money who are entitled to 2751 02:45:17,070 --> 02:45:18,810 benefits like Social Security, 2752 02:45:19,110 --> 02:45:22,680 about 70 million Americans receive Social Security benefits 2753 02:45:22,830 --> 02:45:25,890 more than one in five of us. But for many isn't the money 2754 02:45:25,890 --> 02:45:28,050 supplemental. So some 2755 02:45:28,050 --> 02:45:30,900 people can afford to wait a little bit before they're paid 2756 02:45:30,900 --> 02:45:33,510 by the federal government. But many 10s of millions of people 2757 02:45:33,510 --> 02:45:35,400 who receive Social Security can't afford to wait. 2758 02:45:35,700 --> 02:45:39,870 In fact, for 40% of beneficiaries, Social Security 2759 02:45:39,900 --> 02:45:41,880 is their sole means of support, 2760 02:45:41,970 --> 02:45:44,370 the impact on them would would be dramatic, can't pay the rent, 2761 02:45:44,370 --> 02:45:47,370 can't buy it can't buy food, can't pay central medical bills. 2762 02:45:47,460 --> 02:45:50,250 I mean that that would just be a horrible, horrible human cost. 2763 02:45:50,400 --> 02:45:53,490 And what about America's millions of federal employees? 2764 02:45:54,210 --> 02:45:56,490 Adam Curry: Why don't they bring a Brit into this story? It's not 2765 02:45:56,490 --> 02:45:56,550 a 2766 02:45:56,550 --> 02:45:58,560 John C Dvorak: British? I don't know. But this is the said that 2767 02:45:58,560 --> 02:46:02,760 I just played this clip, because it's the same old same old 2768 02:46:02,910 --> 02:46:06,300 instead of saying, Yeah, well, we could stop sending 10s of 2769 02:46:06,300 --> 02:46:11,580 billions of dollars to Ukraine. And we could maybe I don't know 2770 02:46:11,610 --> 02:46:16,350 audit the Pentagon? No, no, no. Social Security. Let's scare the 2771 02:46:16,350 --> 02:46:19,140 old people. You can't pay your bills. I mean, 2772 02:46:19,140 --> 02:46:21,720 Adam Curry: he literally just came up with 3 billion due to an 2773 02:46:21,750 --> 02:46:25,050 accounting error in your in your favor. We could use 2774 02:46:25,050 --> 02:46:28,140 John C Dvorak: that to remind people that this goes on and on. 2775 02:46:28,140 --> 02:46:33,210 But this is this other clip this one and it says default GT. This 2776 02:46:34,620 --> 02:46:38,490 I didn't quite know but this is actually what has to be going 2777 02:46:38,490 --> 02:46:39,600 on. Listen to this. 2778 02:46:41,130 --> 02:46:46,530 Unknown: In Game Theory, it does not make any sense to reach an 2779 02:46:46,530 --> 02:46:49,800 agreement before the last second 2780 02:46:50,970 --> 02:46:52,770 Adam Curry: in game theory, is 2781 02:46:52,770 --> 02:46:56,400 John C Dvorak: it in game theory? It doesn't make any 2782 02:46:56,400 --> 02:47:01,590 sense to reach an agreement before the last minute so guess 2783 02:47:01,620 --> 02:47:03,660 what's gonna happen second, second 2784 02:47:03,660 --> 02:47:04,500 Unknown: before 2785 02:47:05,580 --> 02:47:08,820 Adam Curry: last second. Oh, they're gonna spin everybody up. 2786 02:47:09,030 --> 02:47:12,780 Everyone's gonna be flipping out like whoo Republicans bad 2787 02:47:13,350 --> 02:47:18,060 Democrats baby all the podcasts are like all company with the 2788 02:47:18,060 --> 02:47:23,880 doo doo scourge. Is that what's going to happen? 2789 02:47:25,080 --> 02:47:26,550 John C Dvorak: Over the top? Sorry. 2790 02:47:27,240 --> 02:47:29,280 Adam Curry: Okay, that's that's the way I remember it. 2791 02:47:31,050 --> 02:47:34,050 John C Dvorak: Yeah, so this is this whole thing is horse 2792 02:47:34,050 --> 02:47:34,830 manure. You know, 2793 02:47:35,369 --> 02:47:38,699 Adam Curry: the internet really made things worse. It's really 2794 02:47:38,699 --> 02:47:40,259 it really did not improve life. I've 2795 02:47:40,260 --> 02:47:41,640 John C Dvorak: said that since day one. 2796 02:47:41,670 --> 02:47:44,340 Adam Curry: I'm now that I'm old like you and yelling at the 2797 02:47:44,340 --> 02:47:46,950 clouds. I'm with you. I'm waiting to get the kids on the 2798 02:47:46,950 --> 02:47:53,490 lawn. Yes, get off my lawn and the Internet sucks. I need that 2799 02:47:53,490 --> 02:47:57,870 T shirt. Get off my lawn the and the Internet sucks. I have a big 2800 02:47:57,870 --> 02:48:01,890 pharma clip, which is kind of fun. Because it's about ozempic. 2801 02:48:03,210 --> 02:48:05,610 John C Dvorak: Oh, is that big 2802 02:48:06,150 --> 02:48:09,150 Adam Curry: man, the big pharma people they are they really 2803 02:48:09,150 --> 02:48:15,000 truly are bad. So first of all, we have drug shortages now, 2804 02:48:15,000 --> 02:48:19,020 which I think is also a spin up. But But But I figured out what 2805 02:48:19,020 --> 02:48:23,250 this is. So here's the headline. drug shortage is near an all 2806 02:48:23,250 --> 02:48:27,720 time high, leading to rationing The New York Times drug 2807 02:48:27,720 --> 02:48:31,350 shortages reach public health emergency levels, doctor say, 2808 02:48:31,740 --> 02:48:39,120 Daily Mail? And what is it about the scarcity of generic forms of 2809 02:48:39,120 --> 02:48:45,900 drugs? Now, we need to tell everybody how this works. So 2810 02:48:45,900 --> 02:48:51,390 when a drug goes out of patent, which is a statutory amount of 2811 02:48:51,390 --> 02:48:55,740 time, that is six years or so. And then everyone can make this 2812 02:48:55,740 --> 02:49:02,010 drug. And probably around 1012 years ago, we noticed that the 2813 02:49:02,040 --> 02:49:04,080 so it was a pretty good business, you know, you could 2814 02:49:04,080 --> 02:49:07,380 have a generic drug company, a just crank out stuff at a 2815 02:49:07,380 --> 02:49:10,800 reasonable price. And then the big pharma companies went you 2816 02:49:10,800 --> 02:49:13,260 know, we're gonna do, we're gonna buy these generic 2817 02:49:13,260 --> 02:49:16,020 companies, and then we cornered the market, and then we can 2818 02:49:16,020 --> 02:49:21,390 start raising the price again. And so now they're saying all 2819 02:49:21,420 --> 02:49:27,360 generic companies, supply chain bla bla the problems blah, blah, 2820 02:49:27,360 --> 02:49:31,350 blah, blah, oh, we need help. And so what's what is happening? 2821 02:49:32,670 --> 02:49:40,140 The FDA has put a team of 10 people looking at these drug 2822 02:49:40,140 --> 02:49:43,800 shortages, and they're going to Congress and the White House 2823 02:49:43,800 --> 02:49:47,400 with the ball. The generic drug industry is under severe 2824 02:49:47,400 --> 02:49:51,630 financial strain. We need to help them out. This is the 2825 02:49:51,630 --> 02:49:55,020 farmers, the big pharma drug companies. They couldn't it's 2826 02:49:55,020 --> 02:49:59,970 not enough. It's never enough for them. They just want more 2827 02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:04,470 money from the government from us. Because it's the big pharma 2828 02:50:04,470 --> 02:50:07,290 owns them. They own the generics. 2829 02:50:07,350 --> 02:50:09,270 John C Dvorak: It's something to see I'm telling you, I've never 2830 02:50:09,270 --> 02:50:10,170 seen anything like it. 2831 02:50:10,680 --> 02:50:13,710 Adam Curry: And the New York Times, they're all in Oh, this 2832 02:50:13,710 --> 02:50:14,310 is horrible. Now, 2833 02:50:14,310 --> 02:50:16,920 John C Dvorak: these news organizations are clueless. 2834 02:50:17,610 --> 02:50:19,860 Adam Curry: We have got to fix the core economics of the 2835 02:50:19,860 --> 02:50:22,770 generic business if we're going to get the situation fixed. 2836 02:50:28,770 --> 02:50:34,350 The obesity drugs. Now, this is a marketing initiative. It 2837 02:50:34,350 --> 02:50:39,960 showed up in Reuters. So you know, it's PR. This is the 2838 02:50:39,960 --> 02:50:47,100 Nordisk drug, which is the what is it? What gonee Wigo govi? 2839 02:50:47,640 --> 02:50:48,630 John C Dvorak: Gotta know what it's called. 2840 02:50:48,630 --> 02:50:50,610 Adam Curry: I can't remember. Yeah, so we have ozempic. And 2841 02:50:50,610 --> 02:50:52,800 that's, you know, that's not pretty much only used for weight 2842 02:50:52,800 --> 02:50:56,190 loss, but you know, it's for it's for diabetes. So we'll go 2843 02:50:56,190 --> 02:50:59,910 V. De, which was supposed to be only for diabetes, and is more 2844 02:50:59,910 --> 02:51:03,480 expensive. Now, it's being used for weight loss as well, but 2845 02:51:03,480 --> 02:51:09,900 they have an extra benefit, according to Reuters. The the, 2846 02:51:11,550 --> 02:51:17,970 what is it called again, go V. has an extra heart benefit. You 2847 02:51:17,970 --> 02:51:22,890 won't get a heart attack as quickly as ozempic. Yeah, well, 2848 02:51:22,890 --> 02:51:25,170 they're not saying that, but they're just saying, Oh, are our 2849 02:51:25,170 --> 02:51:30,630 drug off? Not only does it make you lose lean body tissue, 2850 02:51:31,170 --> 02:51:35,700 John C Dvorak: it'd become a weird looking person and sagging 2851 02:51:35,700 --> 02:51:36,450 face. 2852 02:51:36,539 --> 02:51:40,289 Adam Curry: And now there's the independent, which is kind of a 2853 02:51:40,799 --> 02:51:44,459 kind of a like, well, they try it's been a piece of shit for 2854 02:51:44,459 --> 02:51:49,319 years majors with obesity should be offered transformative weight 2855 02:51:49,319 --> 02:51:54,359 loss injection, say experts. Oh, yes. So if you've been eating 2856 02:51:54,359 --> 02:51:56,699 colorful things from your supermarket, which is not really 2857 02:51:56,699 --> 02:52:00,329 food, we should be giving you the shot, because that's all you 2858 02:52:00,329 --> 02:52:04,169 need. You don't need to improve your intake. No, no, no, no, no 2859 02:52:04,349 --> 02:52:09,449 weight loss jab can have the obesity rates and teenagers. 2860 02:52:09,989 --> 02:52:13,649 This is phenomenal. What an invention. Please do not 2861 02:52:13,649 --> 02:52:17,999 exercise. Do not look at what you're eating, stay on the 2862 02:52:17,999 --> 02:52:25,349 phone, stay on the phone. I saw I saw this other great video. So 2863 02:52:25,349 --> 02:52:30,029 the iPhone, every five seconds, it scans your face with 2864 02:52:30,029 --> 02:52:32,549 infrared, which you don't see unless you use an infrared 2865 02:52:32,549 --> 02:52:36,119 camera that you can see every five seconds. It's beaming light 2866 02:52:36,119 --> 02:52:41,309 at your face. For the you know, for the for the ID to unlock or 2867 02:52:41,309 --> 02:52:45,329 whatever. But it's not like it just does it when it's time for 2868 02:52:45,389 --> 02:52:49,559 you to ID yourself. Now, every five seconds, it's taking an 2869 02:52:49,559 --> 02:52:56,129 infrared scan. For what purpose to affect your nervous system, I 2870 02:52:56,129 --> 02:52:56,939 would presume. 2871 02:52:59,070 --> 02:53:02,160 John C Dvorak: That's what we can do red pop is going to 2872 02:53:02,160 --> 02:53:03,630 affect your nervous system. 2873 02:53:03,660 --> 02:53:06,360 Adam Curry: It's well known that any type of light flashed in 2874 02:53:06,360 --> 02:53:10,290 your eyes whether you see it or not. Definitely can affect your 2875 02:53:10,290 --> 02:53:15,240 nervous system. Anyway, let's go to the ozempic commercial I'm 2876 02:53:15,240 --> 02:53:20,550 sorry. Op Ed. I'm sorry, a new story on Good Morning America 2877 02:53:20,550 --> 02:53:22,050 with Dr. Jenn. Er, we do 2878 02:53:22,050 --> 02:53:24,150 Unknown: have some news to talk to you doctor about microgen The 2879 02:53:24,150 --> 02:53:27,570 age news American Hair Loss Association has issued a pretty 2880 02:53:27,570 --> 02:53:32,370 strong warning advising against the misuse of ozempic and other 2881 02:53:32,370 --> 02:53:35,790 drugs that are similar for anything other than diabetes. 2882 02:53:35,820 --> 02:53:38,670 Adam Curry: Aha, you see, this is the story we had like oh you 2883 02:53:38,670 --> 02:53:41,250 get ozempic face well, we can deal with that. But the hair 2884 02:53:41,250 --> 02:53:44,550 loss we've got to stop that Dr. Jen here's your script or 2885 02:53:44,550 --> 02:53:46,050 obesity write this down. 2886 02:53:46,050 --> 02:53:49,800 Unknown: So keyword that you said Eva Miss use these drugs 2887 02:53:49,800 --> 02:53:52,890 because remember this, this warning does not apply to people 2888 02:53:52,890 --> 02:53:55,830 who absolutely need these drugs for the treatment of type two 2889 02:53:55,830 --> 02:54:00,000 diabetes, or who are taking them under the advice of a obesity 2890 02:54:00,000 --> 02:54:02,700 medicine physician to treat the condition of overweight or 2891 02:54:02,700 --> 02:54:05,190 obesity. But take a look at what they're warning they're talking 2892 02:54:05,190 --> 02:54:09,330 about the fact that hormonal shifts that are kind of 2893 02:54:09,330 --> 02:54:12,540 accompany these medications can trigger temporary hair shedding 2894 02:54:12,570 --> 02:54:15,720 and hair loss, the hair follicles can shrink and produce 2895 02:54:15,750 --> 02:54:18,720 thinner and shorter strands. And this can lead to certain 2896 02:54:18,720 --> 02:54:22,140 patterns of hair loss, male pattern hair loss androgenic 2897 02:54:22,140 --> 02:54:26,550 alopecia misuse can cause progressive hair loss that could 2898 02:54:26,580 --> 02:54:30,750 become permanent. And that by the way, we have to emphasize 2899 02:54:30,810 --> 02:54:35,400 can be seen with rapid weight loss due to any reason. But 2900 02:54:35,400 --> 02:54:37,890 they're just flagging in here and we have to remember the FDA 2901 02:54:37,950 --> 02:54:44,130 has approved ozempic and similar semaglutide GLP one agonists for 2902 02:54:44,130 --> 02:54:48,030 the treatment of type two diabetes and obesity. I can't 2903 02:54:48,030 --> 02:54:50,760 emphasize this enough you guys this is risk benefit. This 2904 02:54:50,760 --> 02:54:53,520 doesn't mean these drugs are all bad or all dangerous. It just 2905 02:54:53,520 --> 02:54:57,930 means you have to be aware of risks and benefits and not take 2906 02:54:57,960 --> 02:55:01,470 any medication unless there's a really good indication. 2907 02:55:01,500 --> 02:55:02,970 Adam Curry: So what about the people who need to be on the 2908 02:55:02,970 --> 02:55:03,330 truck but 2909 02:55:03,330 --> 02:55:05,010 Unknown: they're still losing their hair? Well, I think you 2910 02:55:05,010 --> 02:55:08,760 either treat the symptom in the case of hair loss or hair 2911 02:55:08,760 --> 02:55:11,790 thinning or you remove the cause which if you're taking these 2912 02:55:11,790 --> 02:55:14,550 drugs, not for the right reason would be removing the 2913 02:55:14,550 --> 02:55:17,910 medication. So you have to you have to treat the whole person 2914 02:55:17,910 --> 02:55:20,460 and that's what this headline is really about. Oh, well 2915 02:55:20,460 --> 02:55:23,100 Adam Curry: done. Well done. You've debunked the stupid 2916 02:55:23,100 --> 02:55:26,280 headline. Dr. Jenn. Keep on taking your ozempic People have 2917 02:55:26,280 --> 02:55:28,140 nothing to see here. It's all good. And when 2918 02:55:28,140 --> 02:55:29,940 John C Dvorak: your hair all falls on your bald as a 2919 02:55:29,940 --> 02:55:33,270 billiard, don't worry about it. Alicia, thin 2920 02:55:33,570 --> 02:55:37,860 Adam Curry: and pregnant moms pregnant moms, you need an mRNA 2921 02:55:37,860 --> 02:55:41,460 shot for your unborn baby. Dr. Jen back again. 2922 02:55:43,380 --> 02:55:47,610 Unknown: Jen back with us and some promising news about RSV 2923 02:55:47,610 --> 02:55:50,040 vaccines and expecting mothers Yes. 2924 02:55:50,040 --> 02:55:53,250 So we talked in the COVID pandemic about why it is so 2925 02:55:53,250 --> 02:55:57,360 important to do clinical trials in pregnant women. When you talk 2926 02:55:57,360 --> 02:56:02,130 about a vaccine. Now the maker of one of the RSV vaccines that 2927 02:56:02,130 --> 02:56:05,880 we may be seeing in the general population soon Pfizer has clear 2928 02:56:05,910 --> 02:56:10,440 one hurdle, there are many more towards getting that vaccine 2929 02:56:10,470 --> 02:56:15,120 approved for use in pregnant women between 24 and 36 weeks of 2930 02:56:15,120 --> 02:56:19,710 pregnancy. Their clinical trials showed very good efficacy, no 2931 02:56:19,710 --> 02:56:23,940 significant safety concerns, and an independent committee advised 2932 02:56:23,940 --> 02:56:27,960 the FDA. Yes, you can go forward with this. Now the FDA has to 2933 02:56:27,960 --> 02:56:31,590 decide and then the CDC has to weigh in. So there are a lot of 2934 02:56:31,590 --> 02:56:34,860 hurdles. And that's a good thing. But it's possible that we 2935 02:56:34,860 --> 02:56:39,390 may be able to see this vaccine in the fall in time for the next 2936 02:56:39,390 --> 02:56:42,930 big RSV season. And again, the concept here is that few 2937 02:56:42,930 --> 02:56:46,200 vaccinated pregnant woman, those antibodies that immune 2938 02:56:46,200 --> 02:56:50,070 protection gets transferred in utero through the tube, the 2939 02:56:50,070 --> 02:56:51,570 fetus antibodies, 2940 02:56:51,600 --> 02:56:53,370 Adam Curry: its mRNA 2941 02:56:53,430 --> 02:56:58,440 John C Dvorak: we have did three years ago, or let's say be pre 2942 02:56:58,440 --> 02:57:03,000 COVID. All the shows we did 10 years of shows. I never heard of 2943 02:57:03,000 --> 02:57:03,660 this disease. 2944 02:57:03,690 --> 02:57:06,600 Adam Curry: RSV season. No, it's not RSV season, like the 2945 02:57:06,600 --> 02:57:08,400 fighting season in Afghanistan. 2946 02:57:09,060 --> 02:57:11,070 John C Dvorak: So I've never heard of this. But now all of a 2947 02:57:11,070 --> 02:57:14,160 sudden, this they're making a vaccine for this is 2948 02:57:14,310 --> 02:57:17,250 unbelievable. It's Big Pharma, I'm 2949 02:57:17,250 --> 02:57:18,060 Unknown: telling you, they're going to 2950 02:57:19,170 --> 02:57:22,890 John C Dvorak: throw up an mRNA vaccine, just a random one and 2951 02:57:22,890 --> 02:57:26,130 to pregnant women. Oh, I'm sure they're going to be lined up for 2952 02:57:26,130 --> 02:57:27,690 that. You idiots, you 2953 02:57:27,690 --> 02:57:31,530 Adam Curry: are exactly the problem. You You are the 2954 02:57:31,530 --> 02:57:36,120 problem. What you're saying right here is a huge problem. 2955 02:57:37,290 --> 02:57:41,910 And Reuters addressed this by leading the witness, the CEO of 2956 02:57:41,910 --> 02:57:42,480 Pfizer, 2957 02:57:42,570 --> 02:57:47,190 Unknown: another legacy of the pandemic. And, you know, we have 2958 02:57:47,220 --> 02:57:51,210 we have seen this as we tried to report on it, you know, has been 2959 02:57:51,210 --> 02:57:56,010 growing mistrust of vaccines, and including in general right 2960 02:57:56,010 --> 02:58:00,990 routine childhood immunizations. You know, it has contributed, as 2961 02:58:00,990 --> 02:58:04,230 you know, to the rise of figures like Robert F. Kennedy, 2962 02:58:04,350 --> 02:58:07,260 Adam Curry: that horrible guy is also the problem. Robert F. 2963 02:58:07,260 --> 02:58:09,060 Kennedy Jr. Anti vaxxers 2964 02:58:09,540 --> 02:58:13,620 Unknown: What needs to be done to counter this wider assault on 2965 02:58:13,620 --> 02:58:14,700 vaccines, kill 2966 02:58:14,700 --> 02:58:17,940 Adam Curry: them, remove them from society DeVore AK and 2967 02:58:17,940 --> 02:58:18,570 Kennedy. 2968 02:58:19,109 --> 02:58:21,599 Unknown: I think it's a very difficult situation and I would 2969 02:58:21,599 --> 02:58:24,449 say unfortunate is not an assault on vaccines is on 2970 02:58:24,449 --> 02:58:25,169 science 2971 02:58:25,199 --> 02:58:27,599 Adam Curry: and assault on science, John, you are anti 2972 02:58:27,599 --> 02:58:28,379 science. 2973 02:58:28,769 --> 02:58:35,549 Unknown: Everything now is disputed. And not only science 2974 02:58:35,549 --> 02:58:38,729 as a whole but very specifically, the credibility of 2975 02:58:38,729 --> 02:58:44,879 iconic institutions like CDC or FDA or EMA in Europe, 2976 02:58:45,060 --> 02:58:47,250 Adam Curry: or prominent institutions who had everything 2977 02:58:47,250 --> 02:58:49,620 right everything rights is puted. 2978 02:58:51,060 --> 02:58:53,730 Unknown: Objective and scientific competent to have an 2979 02:58:53,730 --> 02:58:58,170 opinion on those topics. Academia like opinions that are 2980 02:58:58,890 --> 02:59:04,890 issued by Harvard by Stanford, by friends universities by UK 2981 02:59:04,920 --> 02:59:09,030 universities by Italian universities are disputed just 2982 02:59:09,030 --> 02:59:16,110 in in social media. We are living situation but I never 2983 02:59:16,110 --> 02:59:21,210 thought we will live and clearly another photo will live after a 2984 02:59:21,210 --> 02:59:23,730 pandemic where sciences will who saved 2985 02:59:24,930 --> 02:59:29,100 Adam Curry: and saved us John Sian science saved us science 2986 02:59:29,100 --> 02:59:31,740 beat the evil pandemic germ, 2987 02:59:31,830 --> 02:59:35,970 Unknown: it is science that the one the virus right 2988 02:59:36,000 --> 02:59:38,940 Adam Curry: signs one the virus whatever that means, but 2989 02:59:40,050 --> 02:59:45,030 Unknown: right now unfortunately one virus it happens very often 2990 02:59:46,950 --> 02:59:49,860 any because this is getting caught into politics. 2991 02:59:50,580 --> 02:59:54,810 Unfortunately, at large in the world, the political life is 2992 02:59:54,840 --> 02:59:57,510 fairly polarized right now. 2993 02:59:58,860 --> 03:00:05,490 Adam Curry: Ah, my Do they say em? And? Yeah, it's, it's just 2994 03:00:05,490 --> 03:00:08,400 politics. You see, it's only politics. It's at least trying 2995 03:00:08,400 --> 03:00:12,330 to say Republicans, but he can't because it's also RFK. And it's 2996 03:00:12,330 --> 03:00:17,250 not just social media, it's podcasters. But they have a 2997 03:00:17,250 --> 03:00:22,530 plan. And the plan is, it all comes together the trans Maori 2998 03:00:22,530 --> 03:00:26,610 society, if we're gonna get rid of the social media, people who 2999 03:00:26,610 --> 03:00:29,430 are against science and get rid of the podcasters we're gonna 3000 03:00:29,430 --> 03:00:33,840 get rid of rid of stupid politicians. And while we're at 3001 03:00:33,840 --> 03:00:35,460 it, let's get rid of the gays in 3002 03:00:35,460 --> 03:00:38,370 Unknown: tonight's Healthwatch federal health officials are 3003 03:00:38,370 --> 03:00:42,330 warning that the nationwide outbreak of impacts previously 3004 03:00:42,330 --> 03:00:46,560 known as monkey pox is far from over. The warning comes as a 3005 03:00:46,560 --> 03:00:50,700 cluster of new cases have emerged in Chicago. CBS has 3006 03:00:50,700 --> 03:00:56,220 Roxanna severity reports only 23% of the 1.6 million Americans 3007 03:00:56,400 --> 03:00:59,430 considered at higher risk have been vaccinated. 3008 03:00:59,790 --> 03:01:03,360 More than 20 cases at the end pox virus had been reported in 3009 03:01:03,360 --> 03:01:07,380 Chicago since mid April. The majority are in fully vaccinated 3010 03:01:07,380 --> 03:01:11,070 people. Dr. Karen Krueger says immunity to the virus might be 3011 03:01:11,070 --> 03:01:13,980 waning. But the recent cases treated at Chicago's 3012 03:01:13,980 --> 03:01:17,580 Northwestern Memorial Hospital had been mild to moderate. 3013 03:01:17,790 --> 03:01:20,820 I think a lot of individuals, you know probably felt protected 3014 03:01:20,820 --> 03:01:23,700 to some degree by either having had the infection or having been 3015 03:01:23,700 --> 03:01:26,790 vaccinated, so people just became more relaxed about it. 3016 03:01:26,850 --> 03:01:29,760 That would probably be my best guess. On Monday, 3017 03:01:29,760 --> 03:01:32,910 the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a warning 3018 03:01:32,910 --> 03:01:36,420 saying it was very concerned about an Mbox resurgence this 3019 03:01:36,420 --> 03:01:40,020 summer, more than 30,000 people in the US have already 3020 03:01:40,020 --> 03:01:43,560 contracted the disease. The overwhelming majority are men 3021 03:01:43,560 --> 03:01:44,850 who have sex with men, 3022 03:01:44,910 --> 03:01:49,890 Adam Curry: and this is where it goes wrong. What is a man? What 3023 03:01:49,890 --> 03:01:55,110 is a woman? So that's the only way you can say get rid of the 3024 03:01:55,110 --> 03:02:01,530 gays. Men Who Have Sex With Men. It's really really really evil 3025 03:02:01,530 --> 03:02:03,180 what these people do evil 3026 03:02:05,850 --> 03:02:07,350 Unknown: the sciences and 3027 03:02:09,570 --> 03:02:10,830 Adam Curry: you got anything else for us? 3028 03:02:12,420 --> 03:02:15,330 John C Dvorak: I have one last clip. That's kind of 3029 03:02:15,330 --> 03:02:17,400 interesting. Because if you don't know what it applies to, 3030 03:02:17,400 --> 03:02:21,360 but it's a sociologist, whose name I don't, I didn't get from 3031 03:02:21,390 --> 03:02:24,930 the guy who sent me this clip as a good one. This is the scarred 3032 03:02:24,930 --> 03:02:29,430 woman experiment discussions. 56 seconds is a good way to end 3033 03:02:29,910 --> 03:02:34,920 Adam Curry: scarred woman. Where are we okay scarred woman 3034 03:02:34,920 --> 03:02:36,060 experiment here we did an 3035 03:02:36,060 --> 03:02:39,210 Unknown: experiment with a group of women. And they put scars on 3036 03:02:39,210 --> 03:02:42,240 their faces and they told these women that they're going into a 3037 03:02:42,240 --> 03:02:45,750 job interview. And the purpose of the experiment is to find out 3038 03:02:45,750 --> 03:02:48,210 whether people with facial disfigurements face 3039 03:02:48,210 --> 03:02:52,110 discrimination. They showed them the scars in the mirror. The 3040 03:02:52,110 --> 03:02:54,450 women saw themselves with the scars. And as they led them out 3041 03:02:54,450 --> 03:02:56,190 of the room, they said which is going to touch it up a little 3042 03:02:56,190 --> 03:02:58,830 bit. And as they touched it up, they removed the scarring 3043 03:02:58,830 --> 03:03:02,220 completely. So the women went into the job interview thinking 3044 03:03:02,220 --> 03:03:04,980 that they are scarred, but actually being their normal 3045 03:03:04,980 --> 03:03:07,830 selves. And the result of the experiment is that those women 3046 03:03:07,830 --> 03:03:10,890 then came back reporting massively increased level of 3047 03:03:10,890 --> 03:03:14,460 discrimination. Indeed, they many of them came back with 3048 03:03:14,460 --> 03:03:19,290 comments that the interviewer had made, that they felt we're 3049 03:03:19,290 --> 03:03:23,580 referencing their facial disfigurement. And this is why I 3050 03:03:23,580 --> 03:03:26,130 think this ideology of victimhood is so dangerous 3051 03:03:26,130 --> 03:03:29,370 because if you preach to people constantly that we're all 3052 03:03:29,370 --> 03:03:32,580 oppressed, then that Prime's people to look for that 3053 03:03:33,990 --> 03:03:36,120 Adam Curry: wow, that's like a mind bender. 3054 03:03:37,080 --> 03:03:38,040 John C Dvorak: Isn't that great? 3055 03:03:38,100 --> 03:03:40,620 Adam Curry: That's a real my well, you know, they should New 3056 03:03:40,620 --> 03:03:44,040 York will make a law and I'm sorry, New York will make a law. 3057 03:03:44,940 --> 03:03:48,450 No, if you have a scar that you cannot be discriminated against. 3058 03:03:49,620 --> 03:03:52,380 Just like there if you're fat you cannot be discriminated 3059 03:03:52,380 --> 03:03:53,790 against they're gonna make a law. 3060 03:03:54,300 --> 03:03:55,920 John C Dvorak: But they've been pushing for that law in 3061 03:03:55,920 --> 03:03:59,610 California for a long time for the benefit of people that have 3062 03:03:59,610 --> 03:04:05,670 a lot of facial tattoos and, and screws in their nose. 3063 03:04:06,750 --> 03:04:08,880 Adam Curry: Your favorite your favorite kind of person? 3064 03:04:09,510 --> 03:04:10,380 John C Dvorak: Those guys, 3065 03:04:11,130 --> 03:04:13,560 Adam Curry: we've got a classic end of show mix for you the 3066 03:04:13,560 --> 03:04:19,470 robotic. I am expecting some end of show mixes with our our 3067 03:04:19,470 --> 03:04:25,800 Nebraska representative, I would expect some kind of snappy beat 3068 03:04:25,800 --> 03:04:31,740 to be mixed under that one. Just a thought in case you're into 3069 03:04:31,740 --> 03:04:37,230 it. And we will return on Thursday. Please support us. We 3070 03:04:37,230 --> 03:04:40,110 do need support from you. Otherwise, we have to find other 3071 03:04:40,110 --> 03:04:43,410 things to do. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill 3072 03:04:43,410 --> 03:04:46,020 country here in FEMA Region number six in the morning, 3073 03:04:46,020 --> 03:04:47,580 everybody. I'm Adam curry 3074 03:04:47,700 --> 03:04:50,010 John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where I recommend 3075 03:04:50,010 --> 03:04:54,210 people go to nhk.com and watch those sumo matches. And Jhansi 3076 03:04:54,210 --> 03:04:55,530 Dvorak we return 3077 03:04:55,530 --> 03:04:58,350 Adam Curry: on Thursday with another minimum three hours of 3078 03:04:58,350 --> 03:05:03,330 deconstruction please remember us at the vortech.org/na Until 3079 03:05:03,330 --> 03:05:06,120 then, adios mofos a hui who had the 3080 03:05:19,529 --> 03:05:23,969 Unknown: blank blankets or water just send your cash and people 3081 03:05:23,969 --> 03:05:30,299 want to send blankets or water or cash we have a lot of people 3082 03:05:30,299 --> 03:05:33,359 want to send just 3083 03:05:36,390 --> 03:05:43,260 John C Dvorak: wasn't never gonna meet the Meet was never 3084 03:05:43,260 --> 03:05:44,520 gonna meet the Meet 3085 03:05:50,790 --> 03:05:57,690 Unknown: barrels you're gonna have to call their roles are 3086 03:05:57,690 --> 03:05:58,140 also 3087 03:06:07,350 --> 03:06:12,510 John C Dvorak: changing steering committee or something for 3088 03:06:12,600 --> 03:06:21,360 giving advice he fell for it he is going to meet the Pope it 3089 03:06:21,360 --> 03:06:30,150 turns out he wasn't never going to meet the Pope actually he was 3090 03:06:30,150 --> 03:06:33,060 never the guy 3091 03:06:51,810 --> 03:06:55,110 Unknown: using vulgar language President Trump today question 3092 03:06:55,110 --> 03:06:57,690 why the United States would allow people from Haiti and 3093 03:06:57,720 --> 03:07:01,230 Africa into the country describing those places using an 3094 03:07:01,230 --> 03:07:02,490 exponent of the president 3095 03:07:02,490 --> 03:07:05,790 said why are we having all these people from shithole. shithole 3096 03:07:05,790 --> 03:07:05,970 get 3097 03:07:05,970 --> 03:07:08,550 John C Dvorak: home shithole quote, excuse me shuffle 3098 03:07:08,550 --> 03:07:09,810 shithole countries? 3099 03:07:11,580 --> 03:07:13,380 Adam Curry: I wouldn't say that. I don't think you should say 3100 03:07:13,380 --> 03:07:18,090 that. I'll say that. shithole countries are the bad word. 3101 03:07:18,120 --> 03:07:20,400 Unknown: This is how some people talk. The whole country is a 3102 03:07:20,400 --> 03:07:21,240 graceful no 3103 03:07:21,240 --> 03:07:22,620 shithole. shithole. Is 3104 03:07:22,620 --> 03:07:25,890 it a lie? Absolutely. Not. shithole, shithole. shithole 3105 03:07:25,890 --> 03:07:26,700 country. I 3106 03:07:26,700 --> 03:07:27,870 just think it's offensive. 3107 03:07:27,900 --> 03:07:30,780 Of course it is all countries in Africa are shithole. shithole 3108 03:07:30,780 --> 03:07:34,290 countries. This is a new low racist, vulgar unAmerican. This 3109 03:07:34,290 --> 03:07:37,680 is a freak show. There's shithole communities in America, 3110 03:07:37,710 --> 03:07:41,130 I'm a proud shithole people from shithole countries, Donald Trump 3111 03:07:41,130 --> 03:07:45,390 has turned the Oval Office into a shithole. Of course, it may 3112 03:07:45,390 --> 03:07:47,790 not be appropriate for some of our younger viewers. 3113 03:07:48,450 --> 03:07:52,740 Here's what I've said. I've said that we need the information, we 3114 03:07:52,740 --> 03:07:56,520 need to connect the dots and we got to drill down, we've got to 3115 03:07:56,520 --> 03:08:00,720 connect the dots, get the facts, connect the dots do everything 3116 03:08:00,720 --> 03:08:05,280 that I possibly can. To help connect the dots I've said we've 3117 03:08:05,280 --> 03:08:09,540 got to connect the dots I've always said if we connect the 3118 03:08:09,540 --> 03:08:13,050 dots, I believe that they should have to connect the dots if 3119 03:08:13,290 --> 03:08:18,180 we're able to connect the dots and if we determine the facts, 3120 03:08:18,330 --> 03:08:21,390 if the dots are coming connected, let's get to the 3121 03:08:21,390 --> 03:08:24,840 bottom of it all. Let's see if the dots connect 3122 03:08:27,180 --> 03:08:30,210 the US Pacific Command has detected a missile threat to 3123 03:08:30,210 --> 03:08:34,500 Hawaii. A missile may impact on land or sea within minutes. This 3124 03:08:34,500 --> 03:08:39,330 is not a drill. If you are indoors, stay indoors. If you 3125 03:08:39,330 --> 03:08:42,960 are outdoors seek immediate shelter in a building remain 3126 03:08:42,960 --> 03:08:46,950 indoors well away from windows. If you are driving full safely 3127 03:08:46,950 --> 03:08:49,800 to the side of the road and seek shelter in a building or lay on 3128 03:08:49,800 --> 03:08:53,370 the floor. We will announce when the threat has ended. This is 3129 03:08:53,370 --> 03:09:02,310 not a drill take immediate action measures the US Pacific 3130 03:09:02,310 --> 03:09:05,910 Command has detected a missile threat to Hawaii a missile may 3131 03:09:05,910 --> 03:09:07,920 impact on land or sea within minutes. 3132 03:09:08,190 --> 03:09:11,250 The sky is very bright all in a very 3133 03:09:29,520 --> 03:09:30,690 yield 3134 03:09:40,170 --> 03:09:41,220 yield yield 3135 03:09:58,860 --> 03:10:04,680 Boruch dot org slash and thank you thank you