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She's a Chinese spy. Adam Curry, John C. Devorah. It's

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Sunday, May 24th, 2026. This is your award-winning Get More

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Nation Media Assassination, episode 1871. This is no agenda. I'm

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casting my-- The live music capital of the world, in

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the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon

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Valley, well I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it's the refinery row.

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We wish everybody a happy Memorial Day. I'm John C.

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Borak. I'm Buzzkill. *laughs* You know, by the time you...

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Smooth as silk. Smooth... Nailed it. By the time you

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get home, you'll be saying refinery row. I don't know

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where I am. You won't know anything. I don't know

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anything now. Here I am in the biodome in Nashville,

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Tennessee. What's a biodome? Better known as the Gaylord Opryland

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Hotel. Yeah. Why is it called a biodome? Because you're

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entirely enclosed in a dome. Oh, I've been to that

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place once. Yeah, you're right. You know what I'm talking

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about. Yeah. And so it could be raining, could be

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sunny. You don't know. It's a constant, like 70 degrees,

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72 degrees. And everywhere you go, you're just inside the

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biodome. It's big. It's troubling once you realize, I've been

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in this biodome for three days. It's a bit much.

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So, um. Yeah, since you asked, we are here for

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the K-Love... Music Awards. The big Gay Love of Music

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Awards! That's right! Gay Love is, they own pretty much

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every single contemporary Christian music radio station in the country.

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Although I don't know if that's going to benefit them

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long term, but they do have streams. And so every

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top name in the Nashville music business is here performing

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live. doing worship services. Performing live! Doing worship services. We

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had a great service this morning with Bethel Worship. No,

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I mean, it's music. Like, you get 2,000, 3,000 people.

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We're all worshiping. And the great pastor from, what's his

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name? His name is Levi Lusko from... He's from Montana,

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but originally from California. Did a great message. And so

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we're just getting our buckets filled here. What was his

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message? His message was what to do when you're spiraling.

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And it was good. It would have worked for... Were

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you spiraling? No, but I have. I mean, I have.

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I mean, we've all spiraled at some... point you've never

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spiraled I don't know what it means where you just

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you feel bad you're down you're depressed you're not doing

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well bad all the time John's in a constant spiral

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exactly exactly now before we get started I don't think

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this has ever happened to me on an airplane before.

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I've been recognized for, you know, all kinds of different

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things. You were called out at the beginning and they

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sang a song to you, Happy Birthday? No, they didn't.

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So I'm kind of, I'm like half asleep. I got

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the hearing aids in, so you couldn't tell that I

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was listening to anything. And I'm listening to Tucker Carlson

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go on and on and on about. the Jews and

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Israel. And so I'm kind of, you know, like drifting

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off and I feel a hand on my arm. And

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I hear, hold on a second. Let me turn off

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my phone here. ITM! And it was Audra, our flight

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attendant on our Delta flight to Nashville. And I don't

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think I've ever, ever had a flight attendant come up.

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to me and throwing in the morning at me. Nice.

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Yeah. And she's like, I've been listening for six years.

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I love, I love what you guys are doing. You've

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been so great. You've been so helpful. And then her,

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her colleague, Carla was like, man, I got to listen

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to your podcast. Cause Audra's like jumping up and down.

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She can't believe it. that she's met you guys. So

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it was really nice. You got an extra listener. That's

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what counts. And we got extra peanuts. Yeah. One at

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a time. Oh, and you got free. Oh, free. Probably

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get a guy who's anyway. Yeah. So I wanted to

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say. So you were talking about some some issues you

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have with the gear. Oh, man, I had a drive

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fail. um an SSD drive. Solid state? Yeah, solid state.

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Although it was like half failing and then it kind

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of came back up. But that screws up a lot

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of things when that happens. So then you got to

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plug in the other drive. You got to remap everything.

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I got the road gear. Although it's, I mean, it's

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Linux. Remember, it's Linux. It's amazing any of this stuff

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works. But here it is functioning. Knock on wood. Holy

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Spirit, take us through the whole day. We'll be good.

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So, yeah. And... It's good to be on the air

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with you. as it were. Well, the first thing I'd

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like to say is apparently. uh the vice president had

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to turn around and come right back to dc President

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Trump didn't go to his son's wedding in the Bahamas.

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Even though he was already married, but the wedding ceremony,

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because It sounds like we have a deal. We've got

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a deal. Yeah, another deal. And I saw you had

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clips, so I'm trusting that you've got clips about the

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deal. I got the deal analyzed. The deal, the so-called

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deal that's in Trump, I believe is in Trump's mind.

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Well, first of all, we kind of... expected a deal

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to be here around June 1st because we need to

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have this all cleared up by the big 250th celebration

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on July 4th. We can't have a war when we're

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doing the big celebration. So we knew it was going

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to happen, but you think the deal is not a

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deal? I don't think it's a deal yet. Okay. And

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they're kind of wishy-washy about it. But, you know, it

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might be getting close. But, you know, this is supposed

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to have taken place when he said this whole thing's

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going to go six weeks. I think we're at 11

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weeks now, something like that. Hold on, hold on, hold

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on. It was only six weeks of actual fighting. All

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the rest of us were dead. has just been ceasefire.

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Oh yeah, that's right. What am I thinking? So get

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it right, man. So let's play the, I have four

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clips and there's three of them are analysis clips and

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one of them is the basic BBC clip, which I

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thought would be the place to go. Uh, Iran, Iran,

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Trump BSD. Oh, I called it a BS deal. Oh,

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there you go. BBC. President Trump has said an agreement

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with Iran to end the war has largely been negotiated.

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He made the announcement on social media. Peter Bowes reports.

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Mr. Trump posting on his true social platform has said

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an agreement has been... Yeah, hold on a second. Stop

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it. The first guy said... President Trump, but this other

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guy comes in and he calls him Mr. Trump, which

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is a note of disrespect. Well, everyone's doing it now.

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It's President Trump. Yeah, they can't get that out of

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their mouth. Well, the first guy did. Well, for a

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second there. It's editorialized. I'm sure the script says Mr.

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Trump. Anyway, we continue. ...largely negotiated after what he described

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as a very good call with the leaders of several

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Gulf states... Very good call. ...and that it was now

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subject to finalization between the U.S. and Iran. He added

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that in addition to other elements of the agreement, the

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Strait of Hormuz... would be reopened. But he warned that

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if a deal could not be reached, no country would

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ever be hit as hard as they're about to be.

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Contradicting Donald Trump's statements, the Iranian news agency Fars, which

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is close to the Revolutionary Guard Corps, says the Strait

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of Hormuz would remain under Iranian control. Well, that's... This

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is the BBC. The BBC is going to run their

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line of talk. Of course, they've been funding the whole

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operation for the... From the Muslim Brotherhood and the Lloyds

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of London and the City of London. Of course they

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don't want any deal. They're just talking the talk. sure

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they don't want any deal. But here we go with

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the analysis. Clip one. We start with President Trump's claim

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on social media that the U.S. is close to reaching

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a peace deal with Iran after weeks in which their

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shaky ceasefire has hung in the balance. Just days ago,

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he was threatening to attack Iran again. In his post,

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Mr. Trump said the deal had been largely negotiated. was

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being finalized and would be announced shortly. He also said

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the Strait of Hormuz would soon be reopened. This comes

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after Pakistan's army chief went to Tehran to hold talks

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with Iranian officials. And after Mr. Trump then held a

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call with Arab allies in which Pakistan, as the key

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mediator, also took part. and he held a separate call

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with the Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu. The U.S. president said

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both calls had gone very well. Earlier, his Secretary of

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State Marco Rubio, who's visiting India, also struck an optimistic

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note when talking to journalists. There's been some progress done,

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some progress made, even as I... I speak to you

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now, there's some work being done. There is a chance

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that whether it's later today, tomorrow, in a couple days,

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we may have something to say. But this issue needs

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to be solved, as the president has said, one way

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or the other. Iran can never have a nuclear weapon.

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The straits need to be open without tolls. They need

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to turn over their enriched uranium. They need to turn

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over their highly enriched uranium. We need to address that.

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You catch that? Yeah, he corrected himself from enriched uranium

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to highly enriched uranium. Yeah, that means something. That's a

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deal point there. Hey, give us your highly enriched, whatever

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that is, and you can keep your enriched. It's the

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60% stuff. Yeah. They need to turn over their enriched

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uranium. They need to turn over their highly enriched uranium.

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We need to address that issue. We need to address

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the issue of enrichment. These are the president's points consistently.

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a diplomatic way. Our North America correspondent, Peter Bowes, gave

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us his assessment. how that works. Hey, sign the deal

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or I'll blow you to smithereens! Of whether this means

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an end to the war is in sight. Well, with

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the caveat that we've heard positive statements before from the

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president about a potential deal with Iran, this does look

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as if there is perhaps... some sort of breakthrough in

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the making although the mood music from iran is somewhat

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different All right, so far, zero analysis, just calling our

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president Mr. Trump. They've given nothing so far. Yeah, and

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that's what you're going to end up with. Yeah, a

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statement from Rubio. Because there's nothing to analyze, let's face

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it. Essentially, Trump is saying what he feels like saying.

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The blockade's still going on and he keeps, and he's

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saber rattling to an extreme. Who is blocking? As far

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as I'm concerned, we're blocking. We're blocking. Yeah, we're blocking.

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We're blocking. Yeah. Who's blocking? We're blocking. They're not blocking.

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We're blocking. We're blocking. So we're blocking all the ships,

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and they're shooting at any that sneak by. And I

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feel bad for the people that are shipping, you know,

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the sailors that are on these vessels. They can't eat.

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I mean, there's no food. No, they're getting them out.

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Yes, we're getting the worst reporting in the world. That

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couple of guys are sneaking out at night. No, we're

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still escorting ships. Yes, we have no reporting. Nowhere. Who's

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boots on the ground there? We need some more boots

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on the ground from our side. Okay, here we go.

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Part two. Now, When they say Iran is saying. Is

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there a mouth on the country that is opening up

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and going, here's what we're saying? Is it on Twitter?

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Is it on X? Is it the IRGC? Who is

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Iran at this point? Who is talking? MI6. Oh, yeah.

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Management. Nevertheless, we had this. quite long, a lengthy statement,

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true social statement from the president within the last hour.

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And this in part is what he has to say.

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He says an agreement has been largely negotiated, subject to

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finalization between the United States of America and the Islamic

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Republic of Iran and other countries. And he goes on.

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with Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu of Israel, which likewise went

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very well. And then he says final aspects and details

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of the deal are currently being discussed and will be

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announced shortly. So I think significantly there we have no

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mention of nuclear weapons, which is... still at the heart

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of this issue as far as President Trump is concerned.

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You notice that Of course there's no mention of nuclear

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weapons, because they never had a nuclear weapon. All we're

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hearing about is the dust. The Dust. That's the enriched

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uranium. They don't have a nuclear weapon. They have enriched

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or highly enriched. uranium. So now the BBC, after just

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hearing that from Rubio... are saying, oh, we haven't heard

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anything about a nuclear weapon. He says that the Strait

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of Hormuz will be open, but as we're already hearing,

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that is being disputed by Iran. So perhaps just tentatively,

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very tentatively, we might be moving towards some sort of

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breakthrough, but this certainly isn't a deal to end the

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war right now. Okay. All right. Some sort of breakthrough,

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but it's not a deal. But we don't know anything.

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interesting in this. Is that Pakistan seems to be playing

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the real role here. yes i and and pakistan also

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has been a safe haven for much of the iranian

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uh air force It turns out that they opened their

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bases up to Iran during the initial bombing, saying if

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you're worried about your jets, getting blowed up because they're

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pretty... Park them here. Park them here, yeah. It's all

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good. And so they have a lot of Iran's gear

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in Pakistan. And so Pakistan has some leverage in that

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regard. Well, yeah. They're also the front men for China,

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which is... the country that really needs this. The sticking

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point here seems still to be the basic thesis of

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the Sunnis versus the Shia. and the pakistanis are not

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shia they're sunnis and so they're not they're not subscribing

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to this 12th Imam theory and uh end of the

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world thesis that the Iranians seem to be all jacked

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about. Well, not the Iranians, but some of them. It's

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not all of Iran. Yeah, the mullahs. Yeah, the mullahs.

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Whoever's still alive. We don't know anything. We don't know

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who's running the place. We don't. And you know what?

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The Iranians I've spoken to? I don't think anybody's running

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the place right now. No, it's some dude with an

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ex-account. Look at me. Look at me. Hey, watch me

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post this. See what the BBC says next. Well, much

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of the impetus for this latest attempt to strike a

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deal seems to have come from the Pakistani army chief's

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visit to Tehran and his... talks there with Iranian officials

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to try to bridge the huge gaps between the two

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sides. So what did they discuss? Here's Kazran Aji from

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BBC Persian. The newly appointed spokesman for Iran's negotiating team

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says the discussions centered on a memorandum of understanding. Okay,

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so this annoys me. The newly appointed spokesman. Who is

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he? This is BBC Persia. Persian, I think she said.

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Shouldn't they be telling us who's talking now? Yep. This

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is the BBC, which is the great journalist at the

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BBC. They should be telling us, giving us... Some details.

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Yes. Anything. At least when we're talking to the press,

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you know it's our vice president, our new press secretary.

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Come on. We're doing better. The newly appointed spokesman for

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Iran's negotiating team says the discussions centered on a memorandum

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of understanding, something that will extend the ceasefire. and paved

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the way for a 30- to 60-day period of detailed

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negotiations between Iran and the United States. Ismail Barahi has

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been telling Iran's state television that the main issues under

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discussion are ending the war, the lifting of the U.S.

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blockade of Iranian ports, and the release of Iran's frozen

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assets in banks abroad. Hold on a second. So this

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30 to 60 days... This hasn't come out of the

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mouths of U.S. spokesholes as far as I'm concerned. I

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don't know where this came from, but this is kind

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of the narrative I'm hearing every well. According to what

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everyone's been hearing, it's 30 to 60 days. It'll be

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a ceasefire, not really. They're going to hammer it out.

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Yeah, but who is the progenitor of that? Where did

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that come from other than BBC Persian? They did mention

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somebody's name in there very casually. It was impossible to

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tell. I missed it then, hold on. And the United

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States. Ismail Barre has been telling Iran's... Ismail Barre? Who's

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that guy? It's blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I couldn't

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understand him. Troll room help. Who is Ismail Barre? United

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States. Ismail Baghaei has been telling Iran's state television that

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the main issues under discussion are ending the war, the

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lifting of the U.S. blockade of Iranian ports, and the

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release of Iran's frozen assets in banks abroad. But significantly,

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he does not mention anything about Iran's nuclear program or

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Iran ending its blockade of the Strait of Hormuz. something

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that is an urgent priority for the American side. Hardliners

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in Tehran are opposed to relinquishing control of the Strait

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of Hormuz in return for lifting of the U.S. blockade

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of Iranian ports. a trade-off which could see the opening

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of this vital international waterway. Yeah, so I'm looking at

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the troll room for some help, and all I see

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is trolls arguing about Liz Cheney. Are you guys even

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listening? What's Liz Cheney? I don't know. Is Liz Cheney

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in the news? They're not even listening to the show.

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They're just in there arguing with each other. This G?

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One-upping each other. No, no, it's all about me. terms

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election florida we're gonna win we're gonna lose it's no

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good everyone uniparty Simmer down, Donna Summer. Paul Couture. He's

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very active these days. Paul Couture? Yes, Sir Paul Couture.

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He showed up in the troll room a couple, like

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two weeks ago, and he started, he's trolling hard, but

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not listening to the show, apparently. Anyway. So I do

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have a couple of clips that these are from just

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kind of just before this announcement, which really happened over

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the last, like, 36 hours. Uh, here's Rubio. This is

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a global radio, Canada. As NATO allies gathered in Sweden,

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the U.S. made it clear it's working on multiple paths

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to a deal with Iran, negotiation and a plan for

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navigation of the Strait of Hormuz. There's been some progress.

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I wouldn't exaggerate it. I wouldn't diminish it. The U.S.

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claims the two sides are getting closer to a deal

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to start formal negotiations. Iran rejects that, characterizing the differences

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as deep and significant, though Iranian officials did meet with

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key intermediaries from Pakistan to relay their positions. You see

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what we've done to Iran? Iran is dying to make

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a deal. We'll see what happens. But the U.S. Secretary

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of State said he told NATO allies they need... backup

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plan if talks fail? Yeah. Plan B is what if

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Iran refuses to open the straits? What if Iran decides

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we refuse to open the straits, we're going to own

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the straits, and we're going to charge tolls for it?

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See, this is the part that bugs me. So you

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even have the BBC saying that the US controls the

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straits, that we are controlling the waterway, that we're making...

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making sure no one goes to the Iranian ports. And

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then you've got future President Lubio saying, well, they've got

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to open the streets. There's not a line of fast

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boats anywhere. This is... Theater of the Highest Level. We

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don't know that. Of course we know that. There's no

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line of fast boats saying stop. Of course not. There's

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nothing going on in that regard. This is only about,

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uh... And what happened to the mines? What happened to

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all those? That fell off the radar. No one's talking

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about the mines. for a week now. Because there's no

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mines! Okay, at that point, something has to be done

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about it. NATO's Secretary General would not openly talk about...

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So you think the whole thing's a hoax? No, it's

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a financial war. I've said this from the beginning. It's

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if Lloyd's of London won't insure. Nobody, for whatever reason,

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no one wants... to use the American reinsurers through DFC

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and Chubb that were all set up, the International Development

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Finance Corporation. For whatever reason, nobody wants to use those.

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So the shipping company's like, oh, it's 100x to insure

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your ship. Well, we can't sail. That's what this is

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about. Only the couple of brave ones who are like,

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you know, oh, we're really here for China. Dead at

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night by turning off their transponders and heading through at

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midnight. Yeah, the transponders, that's all bull crap. The transponders

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is meaningless at this point. Everyone's spoofing. Nobody knows where

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anybody really is. Open the straits. We're going to own

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the straits and we're going to charge. NATO's Secretary General

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would not openly talk about how the alliance might help.

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In recent weeks, both the United Kingdom and France have

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sent aircraft carriers to the region. It is important that

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countries are coming together. Coming together. And have plans to

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ensure that the strait can be open for transit. It

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is open, man. The longer the stalemate drags on, the

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more this global crisis grows. More than 20,000 sailors are

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still trapped on vessels in the Persian Gulf, unable to

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leave their ships for months. and quickly running out of

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food. They need a collective intervention because they are key

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for our economies for both for the supply chains but

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also they are civilians. Like the rest of the world

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they can only wait for the two sides to make

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a deal. Trapped by a conflict that has no end

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in sight. The way I see it, we are blocking

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the ports. of the Iranian ports. And that's where everyone

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needs to go. Yeah, they got to get their stuff

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from UAE and from Saudi Arabia, but they're already pumping

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stuff over the pipelines. Like, yeah, we're getting it out

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this other way. But the Iranian oil is really the

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prize here. And so they want tolls and we're saying

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no tolls. That's what I keep hearing. Toll. We want

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a toll. And the toll is not to get through

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the whole Strait. The toll is only to go into

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the Iranian ports. And the U.S. is saying, no, you

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can't do that because then you have too much control.

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Here's Rubio. Right now we're negotiating and we'll- That's Trump

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actually, but Rubio's coming. We'll see, but either we're going

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to get it one way or the other. They're not

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going to have a nuclear weapon. You will have a

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nuclear war in the Middle East and that war will

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come here. That war will go to Europe. We cannot

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let that happen and it won't happen. It's not going

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to happen. That's more important than anything else. We can't

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think, I can think of nothing that's more important than

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the fact that we cannot let Iran have a nuclear

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weapon and we won't. CENTCOM still enforcing its blockade of

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the Strait of Hormuz saying as of May 21st. CENTCOM

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still blocking. CENTCOM. Everyone's claiming they're blocking. And we won't.

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CENTCOM still enforcing its. blockade of the Strait of Hormuz,

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saying as of May 21, CENTCOM forces have redirected 94

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commercial vessels and disabled four while enforcing the blockade to

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prevent the flow of commerce into and out of Iranian

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ports. Secretary Rubio on this topic. Here he is just

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moments ago. On the issue of Iran, the news. morning.

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I know it's early on the, it's still in the

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United States, a little later in the region, in the

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Middle East, but we await word on those conversations that

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are ongoing. There's been some slight progress. I don't want

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to exaggerate it, but there's been a little bit of

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movement and that's good. The fundamentals remain the same. Iran

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can never have a nuclear weapon. And then added to

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this, of course, is the issue of the Straits. Iran

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is trying to... create a tolling system. Yeah, there it

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is. The tolling system. And there's a little twist now

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to the... The question you had on Thursday about crypt,

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crypto. And how the Treasury and... General Besant. were able

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to capture the crypto because that is all stable coin.

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So now there's a little shift and this is part

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of the tolling system that is a problem for anybody

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but a problem for the US. Crypto experts claim that

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foreign adversaries like Iran are using digital assets to evade

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sanctions and funnel money to bad actors. Darren Botello joining

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us now. Okay, Darren, how do we stop this? Laugh

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till. Hi, good morning, Stuart. The good news is the

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Trump administration is already stopping it. In fact, we confirmed

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that the U.S. Treasury has been able to trace some

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of Iran's money, and just last month they froze more

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than $300 million. This was in regime crypto, Stuart. Iran

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is... reportedly launching a new digital insurance platform for cargo

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ships. Digital insurance programs. Everyone's in the insurance game now.

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This is in the Strait of Hormuz. And here's the

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kicker. They're settling payments entirely in Bitcoin. Basically, this is

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how it works. The companies pay the insurance companies in

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Bitcoin and they get. through the strait safely. That's the

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trade-off. It's a direct move to dodge our banks and

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scoop up a fresh source of cash. And this covers

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a much larger shadow economy. New estimates from a threat

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detection data firm show Tehran is sitting on a crypto

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pile worth a staggering $7.7 billion. That war chest. has

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been expanding ever since heavy sanctions cracked down. This was

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during the first Trump administration, by the way. And here's

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a look at the price of crude right now. The

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hot board's up. Prices are trading near recent highs as

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regional shipping tensions, they're flaring. But the regime is counting

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on crypto to keep its military funded. Unfortunately, they keep

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using words like crypto. Because, you know, crypto could be

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anything. Ethereum could be... Well, he specifically said Bitcoin. Yes,

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I know. That's what... Finally, someone said Bitcoin. But, you

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know, it could be Trump's meme coin, for all I

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know, when they say crypto. But this is a problem

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because they cannot, cannot, cannot. cannot block Bitcoin from being

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used, but they have a plan. The Treasury Department is

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tracking the digital breadcrumbs and they're telling Fox, here's a

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statement over here. Through economic fury, Treasury has taken actions

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that have led to the freezing of nearly half a

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billion dollars worth of cryptocurrency linked to the Iranian regime.

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severing financial lifelines that Iran's regime and military depend on.

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00:28:28,187 --> 00:28:31,895
According to crypto experts, Tehran's tech is actually their weak

463
00:28:31,935 --> 00:28:34,962
spot here. We found over and over again that they're

464
00:28:35,283 --> 00:28:39,352
actually a much better asset for U.S. law enforcement and

465
00:28:39,392 --> 00:28:41,617
other agencies to track because you leave a lot of

466
00:28:41,637 --> 00:28:44,829
breadcrumbs. So I said the administration is taking action, but

467
00:28:44,889 --> 00:28:48,499
how do we actually stop this? Industry insiders say Washington

468
00:28:48,539 --> 00:28:51,326
has a massive trump card here by threatening to cut

469
00:28:51,386 --> 00:28:54,935
off crypto exchanges from the American banking system. Regulators could

470
00:28:55,015 --> 00:29:01,990
actually then flush out these foreign adversaries. Oh, please. That's

471
00:29:02,030 --> 00:29:05,910
going to be a problem. Yeah, grabbing at the crypto

472
00:29:05,950 --> 00:29:09,627
exchanges. Okay. When did this report come out? Because this

473
00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:12,179
is old, because price of oil dropped since this thing.

474
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:15,772
Yeah, it took place. It's not that old. It's down

475
00:29:15,792 --> 00:29:20,351
to 97. Come on. It was 102 when they had

476
00:29:20,411 --> 00:29:23,601
this. But it's good. Look. The way I see it,

477
00:29:23,722 --> 00:29:26,207
I don't know exactly what the game is that's being

478
00:29:26,287 --> 00:29:29,734
played here. For sure, the oil guys are loving this

479
00:29:29,814 --> 00:29:32,700
because with any report, like, oh, we'll just make it

480
00:29:32,740 --> 00:29:35,485
more expensive. And we'll go up and we'll go down.

481
00:29:35,525 --> 00:29:38,992
And your gas station's like, oh, yeah, let's do $5.

482
00:29:39,133 --> 00:29:42,319
Oh, let's do $5.50. They can do whatever they want.

483
00:29:42,359 --> 00:29:46,502
But when the narrative has been cemented, And they stopped

484
00:29:46,563 --> 00:29:48,980
posting stuff on X because I think there's just one

485
00:29:49,061 --> 00:29:52,717
dude whose name we couldn't catch. then it's just, it's

486
00:29:52,737 --> 00:29:55,214
gonna be over. And then it's going to go and

487
00:29:55,294 --> 00:29:57,508
everything's going to come dropping down. I think it's going

488
00:29:57,528 --> 00:30:01,037
to come down fast and hard. That's gotta be, I'm

489
00:30:01,078 --> 00:30:03,776
just looking at, I have no. Nothing to base this

490
00:30:03,897 --> 00:30:06,975
on other than what I think Trump is doing in

491
00:30:07,015 --> 00:30:11,779
his head. by July 4th. and the futures will be

492
00:30:11,799 --> 00:30:17,707
$60 barrel of oil. Well, they're going to have a

493
00:30:17,788 --> 00:30:20,423
hard time getting it down to 60, but it's possible.

494
00:30:20,443 --> 00:30:24,006
The futures. The futures. Well, if futures are no futures,

495
00:30:24,087 --> 00:30:27,855
it's still hard to get down that far. He'll be

496
00:30:27,975 --> 00:30:31,365
buying that stuff up like there's no tomorrow. And it

497
00:30:31,425 --> 00:30:35,437
also screws up our shale business. Yeah, but those guys,

498
00:30:35,697 --> 00:30:40,985
they were already struggling. Remember, it was around $60 before

499
00:30:41,026 --> 00:30:45,517
all this kicked off. Yeah, well. Before, like, Venezuela days,

500
00:30:45,938 --> 00:30:48,888
which is still flowing, I presume. I just got to

501
00:30:48,928 --> 00:30:51,557
presume. Oh, yeah. Venezuelan oil is doing, you don't hear

502
00:30:51,637 --> 00:30:56,856
about it. Why would you? Everyone's all obsessed. So the,

503
00:30:56,876 --> 00:31:05,795
um... I thought this autopsy... of the Democrat Party. That

504
00:31:05,816 --> 00:31:09,146
was really interesting. Did you catch any of this? Yeah,

505
00:31:09,166 --> 00:31:10,611
I caught the whole thing. I didn't think it was

506
00:31:10,671 --> 00:31:13,139
interesting in the least. I thought it was. Why didn't

507
00:31:13,179 --> 00:31:16,110
you think it was interesting? There wasn't anything new in

508
00:31:16,150 --> 00:31:20,189
there. No, nothing new for us, but for the Democrats,

509
00:31:20,209 --> 00:31:22,158
it feels like the Democrats are just all of a

510
00:31:22,178 --> 00:31:25,546
sudden. sudden falling apart before the midterms and they have

511
00:31:25,606 --> 00:31:28,371
no leader and they're all mad at each other. I

512
00:31:28,411 --> 00:31:31,317
thought that was interesting. And so I brought two clips.

513
00:31:31,497 --> 00:31:34,584
Now to the deepening divisions within the Democratic Party and

514
00:31:34,604 --> 00:31:39,393
the long-awaited release of the so-called 2024 election autopsy. The

515
00:31:39,453 --> 00:31:43,301
report was commissioned by Democratic National Committee Chairman Ken Martin,

516
00:31:43,321 --> 00:31:45,947
its purpose to help the party understand why former Vice

517
00:31:45,987 --> 00:31:49,714
President Kamala Harris lost to President Donald Trump. Martin got

518
00:31:49,754 --> 00:31:52,800
an independent consultant to write it, but then put off

519
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,867
its release saying it was badly done. After pressure from

520
00:31:55,907 --> 00:32:00,095
other Democrats, today the DNC chair published the 192-page draft

521
00:32:00,416 --> 00:32:03,422
that he says is still littered with typos and inaccuracies.

522
00:32:03,923 --> 00:32:06,688
The paper argues that Harris wrote off rural voters and

523
00:32:06,749 --> 00:32:10,697
failed to attack President Trump with the sufficient negative firepower.

524
00:32:11,077 --> 00:32:13,943
The DNC adding disclaimers that the autopsy doesn't reflect the

525
00:32:13,983 --> 00:32:17,451
committee's views. Our political pros are here to discuss. Ashley

526
00:32:17,531 --> 00:32:20,316
Etienne is a former communications director to VP Harris and

527
00:32:20,336 --> 00:32:21,619
Corbyn Trent is a former communications director to VP Harris.

528
00:32:21,599 --> 00:32:24,649
former aide to AOC and Bernie Sanders. I thank you

529
00:32:24,669 --> 00:32:26,415
both for being here. Ashley, you were one of the

530
00:32:26,435 --> 00:32:29,304
people pushing for this report's release, and just hours ago

531
00:32:29,344 --> 00:32:32,394
you told our good friend Kristen Welker that Ken Martin

532
00:32:32,434 --> 00:32:35,390
should step down. Explain why. Well, I think this is

533
00:32:35,431 --> 00:32:38,584
a complete failure of leadership. Ken Martin really has two

534
00:32:38,645 --> 00:32:41,155
jobs, really, is to run, to raise money, and to

535
00:32:41,236 --> 00:32:45,242
win elections. He chose to, instead of releasing a forward-looking

536
00:32:45,282 --> 00:32:48,048
document that lays out a vision on how to rebuild

537
00:32:48,088 --> 00:32:51,155
this party, how to win elections going forward from the

538
00:32:51,216 --> 00:32:54,122
state level to the national level, instead what he released

539
00:32:54,182 --> 00:32:58,031
is a pre-decisional document with critiques in it to cover

540
00:32:58,111 --> 00:33:02,644
his hide. That's really what's happening here. Pre-decisional. I don't

541
00:33:02,664 --> 00:33:04,579
know. What does it mean? It doesn't mean jack. She's

542
00:33:04,619 --> 00:33:07,119
just saying stuff. I think we should use it ourselves.

543
00:33:07,923 --> 00:33:11,252
It's pre-decisional for you to say that. It's pre-decisional for

544
00:33:11,272 --> 00:33:14,340
you to say I'm pre-decisional. When elections going forward from

545
00:33:14,380 --> 00:33:16,987
the state level to the national level, instead what he

546
00:33:17,047 --> 00:33:20,917
released is a pre-decisional document with critiques in it to

547
00:33:20,998 --> 00:33:24,345
cover his. hide. That's really what's at play here. And

548
00:33:24,365 --> 00:33:28,934
fortunately, we've got a situation with democracy on the line.

549
00:33:29,214 --> 00:33:34,725
We've got the party is having struggles. Fundraising is polling

550
00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:39,234
at 28%. And Ken Martin made this entire autopsy debate

551
00:33:39,335 --> 00:33:42,709
about himself rather than about the... party, about how to

552
00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:45,153
rebuild the party, and how to bring back what we're

553
00:33:45,193 --> 00:33:49,441
seeing, a bleeding support among the party's base vote voters.

554
00:33:49,461 --> 00:33:52,486
Feels to me like a coup is underway. Yeah, they're

555
00:33:52,506 --> 00:33:54,289
trying to get rid of this Martin guy. It's pretty

556
00:33:54,429 --> 00:33:56,933
obvious. Yeah, well, who's... He was a dud when they

557
00:33:56,973 --> 00:33:59,017
put him in. We noticed this when they were doing

558
00:33:59,097 --> 00:34:01,013
it. Remember they did the... Oh, you have to have

559
00:34:01,073 --> 00:34:04,381
so many lesbians voting and then you have to have

560
00:34:04,401 --> 00:34:08,151
a gender fluid person in there. And then they didn't

561
00:34:08,211 --> 00:34:12,160
pick one. They picked a white guy. Oh, that's right.

562
00:34:12,321 --> 00:34:15,549
We needed a BIPOC. Yeah, I forgot about that. I

563
00:34:15,569 --> 00:34:21,625
forgot about that. Yes. And then they pick some... Heteronormative

564
00:34:21,686 --> 00:34:25,193
guy. Who needs that? He's out. Whatever happened to the

565
00:34:25,233 --> 00:34:28,199
kid from Florida? Wasn't he part of the leadership? He

566
00:34:28,219 --> 00:34:31,807
was the second in command, and they ousted him. Oh,

567
00:34:31,827 --> 00:34:34,272
he already got kicked out? Yeah, because there was too

568
00:34:34,312 --> 00:34:40,319
many white guys. My goodness. So sad. Let me see.

569
00:34:40,299 --> 00:34:45,766
He's still floating around online on some social networks, bitching.

570
00:34:46,027 --> 00:34:48,797
Let me see if this is any good. Let me

571
00:34:48,817 --> 00:34:52,009
see. Allies of former President Joe Biden failed to give

572
00:34:52,089 --> 00:34:56,364
Kamala Harris needed support before her 107-day sprint to Election

573
00:34:56,404 --> 00:34:58,974
Day in 2020. No, that's no good. That's just the

574
00:34:59,014 --> 00:35:02,408
same. And by the way, I think. Tom Yamas, who

575
00:35:02,468 --> 00:35:05,804
I like. I know you do. If you listen to

576
00:35:05,924 --> 00:35:07,974
him, the way his voice is, he's got a kind

577
00:35:08,014 --> 00:35:12,019
of a funny lilt. He sounds like he's about one,

578
00:35:12,361 --> 00:35:15,798
he's like one little accent away from sounding like a

579
00:35:15,898 --> 00:35:20,119
surfer dude. I'll need to pay attention to it now.

580
00:35:20,191 --> 00:35:24,314
He just sounds like he's gonna drop right into it.

581
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:32,019
Hey, man. Hey, cowabunga. *laughs* Hey, man. What surfer says

582
00:35:32,099 --> 00:35:35,648
cowabunga? That's what they used to say. No, they've never.

583
00:35:35,889 --> 00:35:39,398
That was the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. There was never

584
00:35:39,458 --> 00:35:42,866
any. for a dude who said cowabunga. Yeah, you check

585
00:35:42,886 --> 00:35:48,841
it out. Meanwhile, our top Democrat socialist of America is

586
00:35:48,921 --> 00:35:56,121
Mayor Mondami. Mondami. Mom. Mom. Is it Mondami or Mom-dami?

587
00:35:56,141 --> 00:35:58,476
I can't remember. I'm going to listen to you struggle.

588
00:35:58,678 --> 00:36:02,921
Yeah. Well, okay, thanks. Mom Donnie. Mom Donnie. Uh, he's

589
00:36:02,981 --> 00:36:05,367
come up with a brilliant new plan. He is now

590
00:36:05,387 --> 00:36:09,516
the social media mayor. Merimumdani, known as the social media

591
00:36:09,577 --> 00:36:12,523
mayor. And now he is launching a live stream series

592
00:36:12,684 --> 00:36:15,531
on Twitch, answering questions from New Yorkers. This is Gavin

593
00:36:15,591 --> 00:36:18,638
Newsom's strategy. This is not a good idea. What do

594
00:36:18,658 --> 00:36:21,123
you mean? This is... what Trump did. Trump became the

595
00:36:21,183 --> 00:36:25,732
social media president. Yeah, but Trump didn't start, wasn't doing

596
00:36:26,374 --> 00:36:30,983
podcasting, he wasn't doing videos. You know, he was basically

597
00:36:31,143 --> 00:36:33,307
just tweeting a lot of stuff at three in the

598
00:36:33,368 --> 00:36:37,897
morning, so what? Yeah. Well, listen to this. Because Mamdani

599
00:36:37,957 --> 00:36:42,235
has some good ideas. Well, he did get in through

600
00:36:42,295 --> 00:36:44,426
social media doing a lot of videos because I guess

601
00:36:44,446 --> 00:36:47,301
his wife was a producer or something. Here we go.

602
00:36:47,422 --> 00:36:50,254
With the people, and it will be shared on several

603
00:36:50,355 --> 00:36:54,232
social media platforms. Also be posting these conversations wherever you

604
00:36:54,272 --> 00:36:58,911
listen to podcasts. Whoa! using the broadcast sentence of the

605
00:36:58,972 --> 00:37:03,389
future. The most powerful sentence in broadcasting wherever you get

606
00:37:03,410 --> 00:37:07,401
your podcasts. Yeah, was that what he said? That's exactly,

607
00:37:07,421 --> 00:37:10,029
no, he said, you'll be listening to this wherever you

608
00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:12,477
get your podcast. That's what he said. Listen to it

609
00:37:12,517 --> 00:37:15,667
again. It's called Talk With The People, and it will

610
00:37:15,707 --> 00:37:19,479
be shared on several social media platforms. Also be posting

611
00:37:19,499 --> 00:37:22,226
these. conversations wherever you listen to podcasts. Oh, you're right.

612
00:37:22,567 --> 00:37:24,792
You listen to podcasts. It never says get. Yeah, good

613
00:37:24,832 --> 00:37:28,542
point. On your commute, washing dishes, pretending to answer emails.

614
00:37:28,782 --> 00:37:31,529
Yeah, that's like all the social democrats. They just don't

615
00:37:31,630 --> 00:37:34,136
really work. They pretend to be answering emails, so that

616
00:37:34,156 --> 00:37:37,795
makes sense. Because government should be accessible. You should hear

617
00:37:37,835 --> 00:37:41,349
directly from your city. about what we're doing and why

618
00:37:41,390 --> 00:37:44,747
we're doing it. Donnie made this announcement with a photo.

619
00:37:44,767 --> 00:37:47,464
Was she supposed to do that at press conferences? No,

620
00:37:47,524 --> 00:37:50,413
man, he's hip. On social media, here it is, a

621
00:37:50,614 --> 00:37:54,224
picture of himself next to FDR, who did a series

622
00:37:54,325 --> 00:37:57,594
of fireside chats. This is CBS New York, who are

623
00:37:57,795 --> 00:37:59,981
all in. Just listen to how they're. fawning over him

624
00:38:00,041 --> 00:38:03,749
in this. Over the radio. So political reporter Marsha Kramer

625
00:38:03,769 --> 00:38:05,713
joins me now to talk a little bit more about

626
00:38:05,753 --> 00:38:08,959
this strategy. Marsha, what's your take on the mayor's live

627
00:38:08,979 --> 00:38:11,685
stream? Well, Christine, I would say it was an R-rated

628
00:38:11,765 --> 00:38:15,392
performance. But unlike the movies where an R means restricted,

629
00:38:15,693 --> 00:38:19,060
here it stands for relatable. The mayor was relaxed. chatty,

630
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:21,485
didn't wear a tie, and did the live stream was

631
00:38:21,545 --> 00:38:24,651
an expert named Moose, who read questions from people who

632
00:38:24,691 --> 00:38:28,058
logged into Twitch. Now, Moose instructed the mayor in live

633
00:38:28,078 --> 00:38:30,924
stream manners. He told him to say, chat, what's up?

634
00:38:31,385 --> 00:38:34,411
And to say something good is called bussin'. Oh my

635
00:38:34,451 --> 00:38:38,619
gosh, I think I need a bussin'. Bussin'. Bussin'. What?

636
00:38:38,627 --> 00:38:43,828
bussin What's a blessing? Well, that's what Mondami said. Bussin'.

637
00:38:43,848 --> 00:38:46,073
That's when something... It's bussin', man. That's what the kids

638
00:38:46,133 --> 00:38:48,137
say. You got kids around, you bussin'. You ever heard

639
00:38:48,197 --> 00:38:51,946
the kids say bussin'? Your kids are too old. They're

640
00:38:51,966 --> 00:38:54,010
saying bussin'. And you're supposed to say, what's up, chat?

641
00:38:54,612 --> 00:38:57,037
No, you're supposed to say, what up, trolls? People who

642
00:38:57,077 --> 00:39:00,407
logged into Twitch. Now, Moose instructed the mayor in live

643
00:39:00,427 --> 00:39:02,751
stream manners. He told them to say... Wait, they logged

644
00:39:02,811 --> 00:39:07,719
into Twitch? Twitch. What, Leo's show? Twitch. Or Twitch. Chat,

645
00:39:07,739 --> 00:39:10,464
what's up? Chat, what's up? And say something good is

646
00:39:10,745 --> 00:39:13,890
called fussing. Oh my gosh, I think I need a

647
00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:18,498
manual to do this. You need a manual. I need

648
00:39:18,518 --> 00:39:20,923
a manual. I need to read up on this and

649
00:39:20,943 --> 00:39:24,009
get with this language, but talk to me about the

650
00:39:24,029 --> 00:39:26,975
strategy of going on Twitch. Look, this is a mayor

651
00:39:27,015 --> 00:39:29,681
who has used social media in ways that other politicians

652
00:39:30,082 --> 00:39:32,947
are green with envy about. It's a way to circumvent

653
00:39:32,988 --> 00:39:35,653
reporters who tend to ask, well, let's just say, pointed

654
00:39:35,693 --> 00:39:39,578
questions. This is, okay, taking it. We always said the

655
00:39:39,619 --> 00:39:43,153
guy was doing a Trump. Like, promise everything. I wrote

656
00:39:43,213 --> 00:39:46,383
a whole column, and if you go to dvorak.substack.com, I

657
00:39:46,403 --> 00:39:49,472
wrote a entire column about it. Yes, the Oasis is

658
00:39:49,532 --> 00:39:54,336
filled up with it. And to listen to the concerns

659
00:39:54,376 --> 00:39:57,212
of the people. So yes, the mayor did explain his

660
00:39:57,272 --> 00:39:59,822
budget and his desire to see. free buzzing not bussin

661
00:39:59,842 --> 00:40:03,469
and he was also asked if he played minecraft no

662
00:40:03,509 --> 00:40:08,058
talked about the nixon captain clutch and revealed his favorite

663
00:40:08,078 --> 00:40:10,243
place for tacos it was a very man of the

664
00:40:10,263 --> 00:40:13,549
people performance what was his favorite place for tacos we

665
00:40:13,589 --> 00:40:16,375
didn't hear they didn't tell us these guys are no

666
00:40:16,455 --> 00:40:20,605
good they're fiorillo laguardia who famously read comic strips to

667
00:40:20,645 --> 00:40:24,375
people on the radio during a newspaper strike. So social

668
00:40:24,455 --> 00:40:28,265
media is his form of radio. Indeed, it was very

669
00:40:28,325 --> 00:40:34,772
relatable. Did, uh, did LaGuardia do that? Yeah, LaGuardia was

670
00:40:34,873 --> 00:40:38,096
a social media guy when they used the, FDR did

671
00:40:38,177 --> 00:40:41,789
too. They used the... Fireside Chat was an example. Yeah.

672
00:40:41,809 --> 00:40:45,096
But yeah, LaGuardia would go on and he'd have a

673
00:40:45,136 --> 00:40:48,743
radio show and he read comics and discussed the newspaper

674
00:40:48,823 --> 00:40:50,727
and he did all this stuff. It was very, very

675
00:40:50,787 --> 00:40:55,048
down to earth. People loved the show. That's interesting. It's

676
00:40:55,068 --> 00:40:57,936
like a podcaster. Yeah, OG podcast. I need to look

677
00:40:57,956 --> 00:41:00,668
that up. I think that's all Mamdani is doing, which

678
00:41:00,768 --> 00:41:03,258
is, you know, he's taking it from the best, you

679
00:41:03,278 --> 00:41:05,747
know, steal from the best. Yeah, that's good. That's good.

680
00:41:06,583 --> 00:41:09,818
So we were talking about Massey. Oh man, probably the

681
00:41:09,878 --> 00:41:13,394
most frequently emailed thing. No, two. Paxton and Massey have

682
00:41:13,414 --> 00:41:17,262
been just filling up my email inbox. Yeah, I love

683
00:41:17,302 --> 00:41:21,435
the Paxton stuff. Yeah, but apparently your people in Fredericksburg

684
00:41:21,495 --> 00:41:27,725
are idiots. Well, there's a couple of... couple of issues.

685
00:41:28,211 --> 00:41:31,859
One, The most important one for the people in Fredericksburg.

686
00:41:32,183 --> 00:41:35,660
And all politics is local, I've heard someone say many

687
00:41:35,721 --> 00:41:41,187
times. Uh, it was Paxton. whose office wrote up the

688
00:41:41,227 --> 00:41:44,933
big press release excoriating our doctor, who is still, in

689
00:41:45,014 --> 00:41:49,502
my opinion, in jail unjustly. Oh, yeah, the doctor who

690
00:41:49,542 --> 00:41:55,653
got, yeah, that guy. We know about him. He was

691
00:41:55,713 --> 00:41:59,520
a good guy who just got over his head. Well,

692
00:41:59,540 --> 00:42:02,525
he got rousted into a scam. Yeah, he got rousted

693
00:42:02,545 --> 00:42:04,848
into a scam. That's what I meant, in over his

694
00:42:04,908 --> 00:42:07,893
head. Yeah, and Paxson wrote this whole, well, we got

695
00:42:07,933 --> 00:42:12,140
him. This is the guy, the linchpin. Okay, that makes

696
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,444
sense. No wonder. I wouldn't like the guy either if

697
00:42:14,484 --> 00:42:18,916
he pulled that stunt. Exactly. Exactly. So I'm on your

698
00:42:18,956 --> 00:42:21,125
side. now. Thank you. There's a couple other things about

699
00:42:21,165 --> 00:42:23,030
Paxton, but you didn't ask me after the show, so

700
00:42:23,071 --> 00:42:25,117
I couldn't tell you. But I'll tell you if you

701
00:42:25,137 --> 00:42:27,243
remember to ask me. Oh, you know, I forgot to

702
00:42:27,283 --> 00:42:29,971
ask. You forgot to ask. I know. I put a

703
00:42:30,051 --> 00:42:35,968
note down, too. Um... Okay, I'll ask today. Victor David

704
00:42:36,009 --> 00:42:41,043
Hanson. Victor Davis Hanson. Victor Davis. Dave, Dave, Dave. VDH.

705
00:42:41,063 --> 00:42:46,093
VDH. VDH had a great bit about Massey. And he

706
00:42:46,173 --> 00:42:50,442
addresses everything. And you just can't argue with VDH. I

707
00:42:50,482 --> 00:42:52,546
mean, he's. No, he's the best. And he does it

708
00:42:52,606 --> 00:42:57,295
so calmly. Yeah, Tommy Smothers. Scott Jennings, whom I really

709
00:42:57,336 --> 00:42:59,983
respect, he's a really great commentator. takes on people at

710
00:43:00,184 --> 00:43:03,259
CNN. He summed it up. I can add something to

711
00:43:03,319 --> 00:43:06,333
it, but he did a wonderful job. He pointed out

712
00:43:06,353 --> 00:43:11,194
a couple of things that... The district that Massey represented

713
00:43:11,234 --> 00:43:14,184
in Kentucky is probably the reddest district in the United

714
00:43:14,224 --> 00:43:19,180
States. So those people wanted a strong, strong conservative. They

715
00:43:19,220 --> 00:43:22,955
didn't object as long as he was libertarian, if he

716
00:43:22,995 --> 00:43:25,745
was going to be a libertarian strong conservative. And by

717
00:43:25,785 --> 00:43:28,797
that, I mean he came to prominence during the COVID

718
00:43:28,897 --> 00:43:32,099
when he said there was overreach. They even gave him

719
00:43:32,159 --> 00:43:36,539
some slack when he was opposing the big spending by

720
00:43:36,619 --> 00:43:42,904
both parties. But what they couldn't countenance was this. that

721
00:43:43,579 --> 00:43:47,449
When you can have the luxury of a Susan Collins

722
00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:50,778
in the Senate or Rand Paul that don't vote 95%,

723
00:43:51,721 --> 00:43:58,419
you know, they're mavericks. And sometimes they were Lisa Murkowski.

724
00:43:58,619 --> 00:44:03,806
That's a... when you have five seats in the Senate

725
00:44:04,167 --> 00:44:07,996
margin. You can have three defections. Okay. But when you're

726
00:44:08,116 --> 00:44:11,243
close in the House, every little seat, and they only

727
00:44:11,283 --> 00:44:15,633
got two seat margin, you can't afford that. And so

728
00:44:16,294 --> 00:44:19,501
when he started, after he became a... folk hero on

729
00:44:19,562 --> 00:44:23,785
the right by On the right, he decided that he

730
00:44:23,825 --> 00:44:27,312
was going to become famous on the Epstein files. And

731
00:44:27,352 --> 00:44:29,517
the problem with that was he didn't say a word

732
00:44:29,577 --> 00:44:32,583
really when Biden was president. And the majority, the vast

733
00:44:32,663 --> 00:44:36,731
majority of people who appear, whether it's Larry Summers or...

734
00:44:37,535 --> 00:44:39,862
Reid Hoffman or all these These people, they're on the

735
00:44:39,924 --> 00:44:43,735
left. So it didn't condemn Donald Trump. It didn't condemn

736
00:44:43,796 --> 00:44:45,599
a bunch of conservatives. And that's what he was trying

737
00:44:45,659 --> 00:44:49,065
to partner with AOC and others and saying, oh, there's

738
00:44:49,105 --> 00:44:52,250
going to be Republicans. And it was a farce. All

739
00:44:52,270 --> 00:44:54,474
right. So he's going to give his voting record in

740
00:44:54,534 --> 00:44:56,778
a moment, and then he's going to address the Israel

741
00:44:56,898 --> 00:45:00,830
issue. um But now it kind of makes sense to

742
00:45:00,871 --> 00:45:03,710
me now because Massey was more what you'd call a

743
00:45:03,831 --> 00:45:07,895
classic libertarian. Which I think is what Ron Paul always

744
00:45:07,995 --> 00:45:10,340
was, what Rand Paul is. Do you think that they're

745
00:45:10,381 --> 00:45:13,908
true Republicans or are they more, they just feel like

746
00:45:13,988 --> 00:45:17,015
libertarians. And that's why a lot of people who listen

747
00:45:17,055 --> 00:45:19,384
to us and listen to other podcasts, they like. that

748
00:45:19,444 --> 00:45:22,319
they like the yeah man he's he's in the middle

749
00:45:22,707 --> 00:45:28,229
He's not going with those guys. Well, the... I'm not

750
00:45:28,289 --> 00:45:31,304
a big fan of libertarianism even though I called myself

751
00:45:31,344 --> 00:45:34,017
one for a few years. It's okay, you slipped, it's

752
00:45:34,037 --> 00:45:37,970
okay. It's kind of a stupid moniker because it doesn't

753
00:45:38,010 --> 00:45:42,668
really mean anything specific. John at Dvorak.org. Nah, I don't

754
00:45:42,688 --> 00:45:45,595
care. I know. But they always email me when you

755
00:45:45,635 --> 00:45:48,102
say these things. And they should. They should email you

756
00:45:48,142 --> 00:45:51,779
because they know that you can get to me. You're

757
00:45:51,800 --> 00:46:00,044
spiraling. So... So Maybe. I mean, it's... It seems to

758
00:46:00,105 --> 00:46:04,181
me that it's just a cop-out for... You know, yeah,

759
00:46:04,301 --> 00:46:08,091
you know, it's the old, well, I'm a, I'm conservative

760
00:46:08,172 --> 00:46:11,500
when it comes to, uh, Yeah, fiscal, fiscal conservative. Fiscal

761
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,090
conservative, I'm a social liberal. Yeah, yeah. Kind of, I'm

762
00:46:15,130 --> 00:46:19,341
a combination, I think drugs should be legalized and... Maybe

763
00:46:19,361 --> 00:46:22,149
it shouldn't be. Maybe it shouldn't be. I don't care.

764
00:46:22,190 --> 00:46:25,078
Everyone should do their own thing. Do their own thing.

765
00:46:25,218 --> 00:46:28,829
I think that's the basis. Back in the 60s. Do

766
00:46:28,869 --> 00:46:34,846
your own thing, man. Tune in. Drop out. Turn on

767
00:46:34,907 --> 00:46:38,255
tune in drop out that kind of that that's where

768
00:46:38,296 --> 00:46:40,211
I think it all stems from and is corny. It's

769
00:46:40,293 --> 00:46:44,590
corny. Just being independent, that's the way to go, or

770
00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:49,039
non-affiliated in my case. Unaffiliated. We're both unaffiliated. Unaffiliated is

771
00:46:49,099 --> 00:46:50,883
the way to go. Here we go. So that blew

772
00:46:50,983 --> 00:46:53,929
up on him, and he kept trying to get back

773
00:46:54,049 --> 00:46:57,636
onto the mainstream and get attention, and Marjorie Taylor Greene,

774
00:46:57,676 --> 00:47:00,216
and Lauren Bobbitt, and all that. Tucker, all those people

775
00:47:00,278 --> 00:47:04,948
loved him. That didn't work. And then so he voted.

776
00:47:04,988 --> 00:47:08,095
The big defections came when he voted against the big,

777
00:47:08,115 --> 00:47:11,904
beautiful bill. He voted against the closing the borders and

778
00:47:11,924 --> 00:47:14,951
he voted against the Save Act, a voter ID. And

779
00:47:14,991 --> 00:47:17,236
this was the big one, the Save Act. And that's

780
00:47:17,316 --> 00:47:22,046
what Cornyn. was also voting against which makes no sense

781
00:47:22,086 --> 00:47:25,553
i mean the the save act is the most sensible

782
00:47:25,653 --> 00:47:29,300
thing in the world but okay and he voted against

783
00:47:29,340 --> 00:47:32,166
this save act a voter id and once he did

784
00:47:32,226 --> 00:47:35,072
that he crossed the rubicon the left made him into

785
00:47:35,432 --> 00:47:42,078
a brave maverick but he was always Um... An ambiguous,

786
00:47:42,178 --> 00:47:46,388
problematic person. He didn't have a lot of principles. He

787
00:47:46,428 --> 00:47:50,378
had convenient principles because, as you pointed out, to save

788
00:47:50,418 --> 00:47:52,643
his skin, he put out a false ad that years

789
00:47:52,723 --> 00:47:55,971
ago Trump had endorsed him when he won 80% against

790
00:47:55,991 --> 00:47:59,570
no opposition, essentially. So he re-ran that to full. people

791
00:47:59,651 --> 00:48:04,324
and think that Trump had flipped. Number two. He said

792
00:48:04,364 --> 00:48:08,271
in his defeat that he couldn't find his opponent because

793
00:48:08,312 --> 00:48:12,232
he's in Tel Aviv. Does anybody really believe he lost

794
00:48:12,312 --> 00:48:17,494
because of the Jews? Yes. Yes. Entire villages of people

795
00:48:17,534 --> 00:48:20,286
believe this. Yeah, I agree with that. I agree with

796
00:48:20,346 --> 00:48:22,890
you. Yeah, they do. In fact, the notes that I

797
00:48:22,930 --> 00:48:27,418
got mostly was that the Jew money, what's her name?

798
00:48:27,879 --> 00:48:32,407
Miriam Adelson. Miriam, Miriam, that evil Miriam. She's the one

799
00:48:32,447 --> 00:48:35,071
who, she's just pumped all this money and that's why

800
00:48:35,092 --> 00:48:38,057
he lost. No, there's been, you know, people who say

801
00:48:38,097 --> 00:48:40,932
it was a money issue. Keep ignoring the fact that

802
00:48:40,952 --> 00:48:44,645
Trump always had less money than the Democrats and beat

803
00:48:44,685 --> 00:48:47,374
them every time. How about how about Musk spending 100

804
00:48:47,796 --> 00:48:52,237
million in Wisconsin? Yeah, and then Musk spent a ton

805
00:48:52,277 --> 00:48:54,665
of money in Wisconsin to defeat a couple of people,

806
00:48:54,705 --> 00:48:58,177
and they got nowhere. Yeah, but you money. So the

807
00:48:58,197 --> 00:49:01,912
money is. Yes, money is a factor when all things

808
00:49:01,972 --> 00:49:05,298
are even, but when you have people that are running

809
00:49:05,438 --> 00:49:10,606
on the basis of various kinds of philosophies or screwiness

810
00:49:10,646 --> 00:49:13,010
that took place with this Massey thing, no, it's not

811
00:49:13,070 --> 00:49:15,474
a factor. I mean, it's a factor, but it's a

812
00:49:15,594 --> 00:49:18,199
minor factor. It wasn't because of the money that he

813
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,205
lost. Although people will argue with me because I had

814
00:49:21,245 --> 00:49:25,013
this, my thesis is because of the fake scandal. But,

815
00:49:25,114 --> 00:49:28,381
you know, I'm not so sure about that. I'm sticking

816
00:49:28,421 --> 00:49:31,648
with my scandal theory. But like our mayor in Fredericksburg

817
00:49:31,688 --> 00:49:38,480
had a lot less money than his co-contestant. And... Then

818
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,327
she got a lot of media. She was in, you

819
00:49:41,467 --> 00:49:45,055
know, the Hill and Vine with her family, full picture

820
00:49:45,155 --> 00:49:48,643
spread and everything. It wasn't money. It wasn't money that

821
00:49:48,723 --> 00:49:53,942
got Randy Briley elected. You know, it's policy. It's, you

822
00:49:54,223 --> 00:49:58,299
know, our church probably. His opponent because he's in Tel

823
00:49:58,319 --> 00:50:02,031
Aviv. Does anybody really believe he lost because of the

824
00:50:02,091 --> 00:50:07,479
Jews? He opposed the war and he always votes against

825
00:50:07,499 --> 00:50:11,426
Israel, but that's not why he lost. He lost because

826
00:50:11,486 --> 00:50:14,251
he deliberately, on key votes that had nothing to do

827
00:50:14,291 --> 00:50:18,319
with Israel, turned on Donald Trump from a red district.

828
00:50:18,327 --> 00:50:24,483
It would be the analogous of... say Nancy Pelosi's district.

829
00:50:24,584 --> 00:50:29,977
It's the bluest in the U.S., San Francisco. And then

830
00:50:30,057 --> 00:50:34,047
she started to vote with Republicans. That would be the

831
00:50:34,127 --> 00:50:36,673
end of her. That, to me, sounds a lot more

832
00:50:36,733 --> 00:50:41,451
plausible. for Kentucky. Well, somebody else pointed out that he

833
00:50:41,511 --> 00:50:45,237
wasn't doing anything for his district either. He was doing

834
00:50:45,337 --> 00:50:48,162
national issues. He was making a big fussy. He did

835
00:50:48,222 --> 00:50:51,087
nothing for the locals. Which is the biggest problem we

836
00:50:51,127 --> 00:50:54,973
have in politics in America in general. Everyone's always focused

837
00:50:55,094 --> 00:50:58,564
on the big national stuff. Look at your own... Look

838
00:50:58,605 --> 00:51:02,764
at your own town. Fixed stuff there. Here's a clip

839
00:51:02,804 --> 00:51:05,270
about Cornyn since we brought him up. The only way

840
00:51:05,310 --> 00:51:08,316
to pass the Save America Act is to nuke the

841
00:51:08,356 --> 00:51:10,962
filibuster because you're never going to get 60 votes because

842
00:51:10,982 --> 00:51:13,989
the Democrats cannot vote yes for this, even though they

843
00:51:14,009 --> 00:51:17,116
know it's common sense. But they will never win an

844
00:51:17,176 --> 00:51:19,661
election again if the Save America Act. So you're not

845
00:51:19,681 --> 00:51:21,505
going to get any Democrats to vote for it. And

846
00:51:21,545 --> 00:51:24,771
then look, the Democrats that are refusing, or the Republicans

847
00:51:24,791 --> 00:51:27,036
refusing to pass this, are the ones that are on

848
00:51:27,076 --> 00:51:30,603
their way out. Look at Senator McConnell, Senator Cassidy, Senator

849
00:51:30,683 --> 00:51:33,168
Tillis. And now, you know what this is amazing about?

850
00:51:33,208 --> 00:51:35,433
What Cornyn is showing is true colors. This is what

851
00:51:35,473 --> 00:51:37,216
we were talking about for the last six weeks on

852
00:51:37,276 --> 00:51:40,122
this show, as to why... Cornyn could not have another

853
00:51:40,182 --> 00:51:42,607
six years is because it is dangerous to have these

854
00:51:42,647 --> 00:51:45,914
senators that we know hate the Trump agenda, hate MAGA,

855
00:51:46,174 --> 00:51:49,361
to be in the Senate without having to, knowing they're

856
00:51:49,401 --> 00:51:51,565
not going to run for re-election again because Cornyn, there

857
00:51:51,605 --> 00:51:52,888
was no way he was going to run for another

858
00:51:52,928 --> 00:51:54,932
term after this. He is too old. So right now

859
00:51:54,972 --> 00:51:57,237
he is proving to us exactly what he told, we

860
00:51:57,377 --> 00:52:00,492
were warning you guys about. We need new blood and

861
00:52:00,512 --> 00:52:03,299
people that actually support Trump's agenda. And because these guys

862
00:52:03,319 --> 00:52:06,025
on their way out, they love to love to just

863
00:52:06,386 --> 00:52:09,634
obstruct what this country wants and what President Trump wants.

864
00:52:09,654 --> 00:52:12,837
That's interesting. I hadn't actually thought about that. just because

865
00:52:12,878 --> 00:52:16,012
they've been primaried. doesn't mean that they don't have a

866
00:52:16,073 --> 00:52:22,470
vote before the midterms. So I'm not quite sure what

867
00:52:22,511 --> 00:52:24,998
the strategy is there. But they were going to do

868
00:52:25,018 --> 00:52:27,868
that vote anyway. I mean, these guys, I have no

869
00:52:27,968 --> 00:52:32,484
idea why anyone thinks like these guys. And the Democrats,

870
00:52:32,825 --> 00:52:37,266
this thinking that, oh, if we... If we vote for

871
00:52:37,327 --> 00:52:39,902
this and get there. voter ID, then we'll never win

872
00:52:39,963 --> 00:52:45,694
another election. That's nonsense. Democrats, Democrats, socialists, maybe, and maybe

873
00:52:45,734 --> 00:52:48,279
the corrupt Democrats in California and the West Coast where

874
00:52:48,299 --> 00:52:52,247
the voter by mail is the dominant feature. Maybe, yeah,

875
00:52:52,728 --> 00:52:55,854
some Democrats won't get elected again, but getting back to

876
00:52:55,915 --> 00:52:58,119
the middle, the Democrats will get elected plenty of times.

877
00:52:58,099 --> 00:53:05,859
Times. That's bullcrap. I mean, you know, the Democrats are

878
00:53:05,980 --> 00:53:10,219
actually, by being this way, are admitting that they're corrupt.

879
00:53:10,927 --> 00:53:15,783
Yeah, they are. They are. Oh, I don't want to

880
00:53:15,843 --> 00:53:18,038
say you banged your mic cable, but it sure sounds

881
00:53:18,118 --> 00:53:19,381
good. I had to move it because I'm about to

882
00:53:19,441 --> 00:53:22,868
sneeze. Oh, okay. Why don't you sneeze? Well, no. Luckily,

883
00:53:22,908 --> 00:53:26,014
because you did that, you said that. I interrupted you.

884
00:53:26,475 --> 00:53:29,481
Ah, yes. Yeah, you interrupted the sneeze, which means it'll

885
00:53:29,541 --> 00:53:32,948
come later. That's my least favorite thing people do. Oh,

886
00:53:32,988 --> 00:53:35,813
bless you. They say it ahead of time. When you

887
00:53:36,374 --> 00:53:39,140
got that big sneeze coming and you're gearing up. forward

888
00:53:39,161 --> 00:53:42,153
and it's i've never heard anybody do that oh people

889
00:53:42,214 --> 00:53:45,447
love doing that in advance of the sneeze they see

890
00:53:45,467 --> 00:53:47,496
you going they see you going and then they'll say

891
00:53:47,556 --> 00:53:50,466
oh god bless you Before you sneeze. I've never had

892
00:53:50,527 --> 00:53:53,063
that happen to me. Maybe it's an East Coast thing.

893
00:53:54,763 --> 00:53:58,931
versus West Coast. So the big thing that had everybody

894
00:53:59,072 --> 00:54:02,123
occupied... in these past few days since our last podcast.

895
00:54:03,279 --> 00:54:10,863
Maskgate. What? MASK GATE! I can't believe your algos did

896
00:54:10,903 --> 00:54:13,390
not show you the mask? I don't know what you're

897
00:54:13,410 --> 00:54:16,383
talking about. Internet sleuths have come up with the wild

898
00:54:16,463 --> 00:54:19,696
theory that this Fox News guest was wearing a hyper-realistic

899
00:54:19,817 --> 00:54:25,279
mask. straight out of Mission Impossible. Retired Vice Admiral Robert

900
00:54:25,359 --> 00:54:28,024
Harward has gone viral for his May 19th interview on

901
00:54:28,085 --> 00:54:31,612
Fox News, after hordes of social media users noticed what

902
00:54:31,632 --> 00:54:34,157
they said appeared to be an unusual shadow on the

903
00:54:34,197 --> 00:54:36,381
bottom of his neck. You have not seen this? You've

904
00:54:36,421 --> 00:54:38,993
got to look this up. While I'm playing the skip,

905
00:54:39,013 --> 00:54:44,189
you have to... The guy is Hayward. H-A-W-A-R-D. Just go

906
00:54:44,249 --> 00:54:47,261
on X, type in Hayward, and you'll see the mask.

907
00:54:47,281 --> 00:54:49,691
Leading to the wild theory that the contributor was wearing

908
00:54:49,751 --> 00:54:54,268
a hyper-realistic mask. Many fueling the notion have pointed out

909
00:54:54,348 --> 00:54:57,563
that Harward is a regular contributor to the program, and

910
00:54:57,603 --> 00:55:00,135
that in all his appearances, several of which were as

911
00:55:00,195 --> 00:55:04,204
recent as this month, his neck appears completely normal. The

912
00:55:04,284 --> 00:55:07,330
outlandish claim has since spread like wildfire and turned into

913
00:55:07,390 --> 00:55:10,918
a full-blown internet meltdown, as many couldn't help themselves but

914
00:55:10,958 --> 00:55:15,428
to weigh in. Left-wing podcaster Ed Krasenstein joined in on

915
00:55:15,448 --> 00:55:19,416
the hysteria on X. Can anyone really explain this? Why

916
00:55:19,456 --> 00:55:21,336
does it look like Fox News... put a man with

917
00:55:21,397 --> 00:55:25,373
a mask in their show, he wrote. While conservative media

918
00:55:25,413 --> 00:55:30,435
personality. Oh, yeah. No. Okay. Just to, not to interrupt,

919
00:55:30,455 --> 00:55:33,545
but I'm interrupting. Yeah. I saw this image originally with

920
00:55:33,605 --> 00:55:36,092
the circle around this little area down at the bottom

921
00:55:36,112 --> 00:55:40,091
where it looks like a tattoo or something. And I

922
00:55:40,131 --> 00:55:43,204
just I didn't pay any attention to it, so I

923
00:55:43,545 --> 00:55:46,290
missed it. Oh, people are losing their ever-loving minds over

924
00:55:46,310 --> 00:55:48,615
it. I don't see why. It looks like the same

925
00:55:48,695 --> 00:55:51,701
guy to me. We'll finish the clip and I'll tell

926
00:55:51,721 --> 00:55:54,346
you what I think. ...calling back to another viral internet

927
00:55:54,406 --> 00:55:59,456
moment, writing, that mother****** is not real. Others online have

928
00:55:59,496 --> 00:56:01,908
tried to bring the situation back. down to Earth by

929
00:56:02,029 --> 00:56:07,167
offering several possible explanations. It's a shadow, or more precisely,

930
00:56:07,288 --> 00:56:09,633
a combination of shadows from the many lights in the

931
00:56:09,673 --> 00:56:12,800
studio, and his shirt collar creating a weird overlap of

932
00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:16,850
shades on his neck, one user wrote. While another asserted

933
00:56:16,890 --> 00:56:19,776
that the oddity can simply be explained by a smoothing

934
00:56:19,816 --> 00:56:23,441
filter that caused... artifacting that they noted is common on

935
00:56:23,521 --> 00:56:27,873
virtual calls. Even Polymarket has gotten in on the action,

936
00:56:27,893 --> 00:56:32,765
allowing users to wager on the outlandish theory. Alright. So

937
00:56:32,805 --> 00:56:34,990
what do you think, since we need to settle this

938
00:56:35,010 --> 00:56:38,077
for everybody? Well, first of all, I've, you know, these

939
00:56:38,157 --> 00:56:41,528
mad, I know, you know, these things are not. you

940
00:56:41,568 --> 00:56:44,822
know, completely without precedent having these masks and some of

941
00:56:44,862 --> 00:56:47,633
them are pretty dynamite. There's a lot of examples online

942
00:56:47,653 --> 00:56:49,983
of people putting them on and what they look like.

943
00:56:50,339 --> 00:56:55,678
The typical, these masks go over the head and they're

944
00:56:55,799 --> 00:56:59,151
pretty big in terms of what they cover up around

945
00:56:59,191 --> 00:57:01,279
the neck area. They go way down into the chest

946
00:57:01,299 --> 00:57:05,923
area. They're big. Yeah. And so you don't, this little

947
00:57:05,964 --> 00:57:10,105
anomaly here, it looks like bull crap to me. Well,

948
00:57:10,125 --> 00:57:13,232
I'd like to remind people of my family member in

949
00:57:13,373 --> 00:57:21,420
1967. um Her husband brought someone home. from work that's

950
00:57:21,399 --> 00:57:24,856
She did not know for dinner and during coffee and

951
00:57:24,916 --> 00:57:28,535
dessert, this person who she did not know. 1967 okay

952
00:57:28,836 --> 00:57:32,212
this is when i was uh what was i i

953
00:57:32,252 --> 00:57:37,241
was three so this is uh 58 years ago This

954
00:57:37,342 --> 00:57:39,724
person pulled off the mask and it was someone who

955
00:57:39,764 --> 00:57:44,264
she knew really well. That was technology over 50 years

956
00:57:44,344 --> 00:57:49,573
ago. Right. The technology has only gotten amazingly good. And

957
00:57:49,674 --> 00:57:53,561
I agree with the, because the whole face looked kind

958
00:57:53,601 --> 00:57:57,428
of smoothed out. I agree with the smoothing and some

959
00:57:57,508 --> 00:58:01,640
anomaly that the... Now that the filter's brought in, on

960
00:58:01,701 --> 00:58:04,792
Zoom or WebEx, whatever they're using, you have a number

961
00:58:04,832 --> 00:58:08,486
of buttons. You know, make it high def, make my

962
00:58:08,526 --> 00:58:12,092
skin look good. And I think it was that. And

963
00:58:12,213 --> 00:58:16,625
also, to what end? Who cares? Yeah, I know. It's

964
00:58:16,685 --> 00:58:21,419
not as though it's Biden. Yeah, exactly. This guy was...

965
00:58:21,399 --> 00:58:25,350
He was in Vietnam, I think. Who cares? Why is

966
00:58:25,390 --> 00:58:30,027
this even necessary? But oh no, oh no, everyone's always,

967
00:58:30,371 --> 00:58:33,453
this is it, no. No, I agree with you. Yeah.

968
00:58:33,493 --> 00:58:36,925
Who cares? It's bull crap. It's not, you know, it's

969
00:58:36,965 --> 00:58:40,597
not the president. It's not like, you know, Hillary. It's

970
00:58:40,657 --> 00:58:43,913
not like. you know anybody important in that regard I

971
00:58:43,933 --> 00:58:46,405
mean the guys important to himself into the show I

972
00:58:46,445 --> 00:58:50,793
guess but it's beside the point who cares yeah So

973
00:58:50,813 --> 00:58:51,957
it was just like, no. No, I missed it. I

974
00:58:51,997 --> 00:58:54,847
missed it completely. Oh, it's just like, come on, people.

975
00:58:54,967 --> 00:58:58,920
No, no, no. Now, Biden, definitely daddy long legs. No

976
00:58:58,961 --> 00:59:02,006
doubt about it. I mean, that was a whole different

977
00:59:02,066 --> 00:59:04,530
dude who was running across the White House lawn. Well,

978
00:59:04,550 --> 00:59:07,235
you know the story behind that, the current story, right?

979
00:59:07,255 --> 00:59:09,800
No, I don't. What's the current story? The latest story

980
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:16,432
was that a Biden impersonator was hired sometime during the

981
00:59:16,492 --> 00:59:21,000
administration to do a bit on the show. He was

982
00:59:21,081 --> 00:59:23,205
so good and they liked him so much they decided

983
00:59:23,225 --> 00:59:25,891
to use him as a substitute Biden every so often.

984
00:59:26,132 --> 00:59:29,800
And then he got moved into a full-time position. Oh,

985
00:59:29,820 --> 00:59:33,408
that's the story now, is it? That's the story now,

986
00:59:33,448 --> 00:59:41,734
yes. That's good. Well, let's break apart another. Another. misconception

987
00:59:41,774 --> 00:59:45,540
by people. This is, let me see. This was the

988
00:59:45,622 --> 00:59:49,637
shooting at the White House? Near the White House. It

989
00:59:49,677 --> 00:59:53,398
was an interesting little story about this that, you know,

990
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,635
that I think people should think about. Because I'll get

991
00:59:57,695 --> 00:59:59,329
into it. Let's play this first. We're getting some new

992
00:59:59,389 --> 01:00:02,363
details about... the shooting that took place on the corner

993
01:00:02,603 --> 01:00:05,449
of 17th Street and Pennsylvania Avenue at about 6 p.m.

994
01:00:05,509 --> 01:00:07,653
Eastern Time. Let's cross over now to our senior law

995
01:00:07,673 --> 01:00:11,100
enforcement correspondent, Mark Santillo, who has more details. Mark, what

996
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,064
have you learned? What have you learned? We just from

997
01:00:13,104 --> 01:00:15,068
two sources briefed on the incident, as well as an

998
01:00:15,088 --> 01:00:18,755
internal law enforcement document. We know now that the suspect

999
01:00:18,795 --> 01:00:21,963
is Nasir Best, who is trained. transported to George Washington

1000
01:00:21,983 --> 01:00:25,332
Hospital as his Secret Service said he has passed away.

1001
01:00:25,372 --> 01:00:29,925
Now, the first thing that happened online was they started

1002
01:00:30,025 --> 01:00:35,119
showing a picture of one of those crazy trans dudes.

1003
01:00:35,859 --> 01:00:40,419
which was, you know, from, I don't know, years ago.

1004
01:00:40,459 --> 01:00:44,756
Saying, oh, yeah, it's another trans shooter. Everything on social

1005
01:00:44,817 --> 01:00:48,632
media is fake. That's how you have to look at

1006
01:00:48,813 --> 01:00:53,160
everything. Everything is fake. Nothing is real. It's really not

1007
01:00:53,220 --> 01:00:55,647
even worth your time. But that was the first thing

1008
01:00:55,687 --> 01:00:57,552
that showed up. And it's actually, it's a black guy.

1009
01:00:57,592 --> 01:01:01,742
The suspect previously approached the White House. There was interaction

1010
01:01:01,782 --> 01:01:06,171
in the past between the suspect and law enforcement in

1011
01:01:06,231 --> 01:01:09,036
June of 2025. There was an order for him to

1012
01:01:09,077 --> 01:01:12,103
stay away from the White House. That incident in June

1013
01:01:12,143 --> 01:01:16,151
of 2025 from an internal law enforcement document, according to

1014
01:01:16,251 --> 01:01:20,896
sources, it happened on July, the last summer. near the

1015
01:01:20,956 --> 01:01:23,863
White House, an officer in police uniform, full police uniform,

1016
01:01:23,883 --> 01:01:26,629
was working at a pedestrian access control post at the

1017
01:01:26,649 --> 01:01:30,477
White House. When he observed best, the suspect walk into

1018
01:01:30,497 --> 01:01:34,045
a restricted area by using the exit turnstile lane that

1019
01:01:34,065 --> 01:01:36,891
was located at the post. And apparently that restricted area

1020
01:01:37,252 --> 01:01:40,740
had multiple signs there, Amon, stating do not enter. exit

1021
01:01:40,900 --> 01:01:44,628
only, police line do not cross, pass holders and appointments

1022
01:01:44,808 --> 01:01:47,794
only. Again, this was near the White House area. The

1023
01:01:47,855 --> 01:01:51,302
suspect was immediately told to stop. The suspect did not

1024
01:01:51,362 --> 01:01:53,987
listen to the verbal commands from the officer, did not

1025
01:01:54,067 --> 01:01:57,254
stop and continued to go further into the restricted area.

1026
01:01:57,655 --> 01:02:03,146
The suspect was arrested. According to multiple sources, the suspect

1027
01:02:03,186 --> 01:02:07,434
had no prior arrests at that time. The suspect claimed

1028
01:02:07,474 --> 01:02:10,200
he was Jesus Christ and he wanted to, quote, get

1029
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,268
arrested. The suspect has a history of mental health issues.

1030
01:02:14,809 --> 01:02:18,376
Again, suspect known to United States Secret Service for walking

1031
01:02:18,436 --> 01:02:22,958
around the White House area complex. and was taken into

1032
01:02:23,018 --> 01:02:25,956
custody last year. Again, the suspect being named is Nasir

1033
01:02:26,017 --> 01:02:29,905
Best. Okay. So one of the things that I keep

1034
01:02:29,965 --> 01:02:35,843
hearing about AI data centers. And this has become almost

1035
01:02:35,884 --> 01:02:40,132
a meme. People are saying, well... You know, they're building

1036
01:02:40,172 --> 01:02:43,227
all these data centers so that they can store all

1037
01:02:43,267 --> 01:02:46,664
of your information to spy on you with Palantir and

1038
01:02:46,704 --> 01:02:51,892
the flock cameras. Have you heard this? Oh, yeah. So...

1039
01:02:52,279 --> 01:02:55,618
This is Washington, D.C. This is the White House. Also,

1040
01:02:55,638 --> 01:02:59,119
ShotSpotter's gotta go. Yeah, well, that's kind of out of

1041
01:02:59,139 --> 01:03:02,734
the- picture but it's the flock cameras it's Palantir they're

1042
01:03:02,815 --> 01:03:06,282
tracking you they're tracking everything now the people are tracking

1043
01:03:06,322 --> 01:03:10,030
you are you paying money to you your Google and

1044
01:03:10,070 --> 01:03:13,557
your Apple and you know the Microsoft these are the

1045
01:03:13,597 --> 01:03:16,343
people tracking you you can just buy that information but

1046
01:03:16,795 --> 01:03:20,539
If it really was true. that they're surveilling you on

1047
01:03:20,699 --> 01:03:24,579
everything. How does this guy, who the law enforcement knew

1048
01:03:24,679 --> 01:03:28,825
about him... They knew that he had mental problems. They

1049
01:03:28,865 --> 01:03:31,976
already warned him, got a restraining order. So they're not

1050
01:03:32,076 --> 01:03:36,110
tracking this guy. They're not tracking it with Palantir, doing

1051
01:03:36,712 --> 01:03:41,274
a minority report with... flock cameras and his phone and

1052
01:03:41,355 --> 01:03:45,210
everything and storing it in your local data center. Can

1053
01:03:45,251 --> 01:03:47,565
we just get a reality check on this for a

1054
01:03:47,626 --> 01:03:53,913
minute? It's not happening. They're not that good. They buy

1055
01:03:53,934 --> 01:03:56,104
the things. They're not that good. They're not that good.

1056
01:03:56,144 --> 01:03:58,535
They are tracking, but they're not that good. They're not

1057
01:03:58,596 --> 01:04:01,954
that good. That's the point. Of course they're tracking. But,

1058
01:04:02,034 --> 01:04:03,556
yeah, they are not that good. I mean, this is

1059
01:04:03,597 --> 01:04:07,803
what happened with the 9-11. Come on. Yes, exactly. All

1060
01:04:07,843 --> 01:04:13,270
these guys were under some look-see. Whatever that was. All

1061
01:04:13,330 --> 01:04:15,894
of them. That may have been a different. Oh, dancing

1062
01:04:15,914 --> 01:04:17,777
is the release. Well, yes, but let's just assume that

1063
01:04:17,817 --> 01:04:21,090
we're going to go with the. official thing. Yeah. Because

1064
01:04:21,131 --> 01:04:23,828
the official thing, why would you do the official thing

1065
01:04:23,888 --> 01:04:28,524
that just indicates your boneheads? I mean, the official story

1066
01:04:28,765 --> 01:04:32,507
indicates that you're incompetent. Yes. Why would you do that?

1067
01:04:32,831 --> 01:04:35,723
Oh, we're dumb. I don't know. To throw everybody off

1068
01:04:35,804 --> 01:04:39,904
track. Give us more money. Right. There you go. And

1069
01:04:39,944 --> 01:04:43,600
then another one. So this, I really like this. And

1070
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,693
I've dealt with immigration for... And by the way, wait,

1071
01:04:46,713 --> 01:04:50,529
stop. Before you leave the topic. I thought it was

1072
01:04:50,609 --> 01:04:53,519
interesting that we had the different reactions to the gunshots.

1073
01:04:53,539 --> 01:04:55,525
There's like 30 shots and I don't know what they

1074
01:04:55,585 --> 01:04:58,093
hit. They never told us. Did it hit the White

1075
01:04:58,133 --> 01:05:00,379
House? Were they just in the air? Who knows? But

1076
01:05:00,419 --> 01:05:04,908
there was a Chinese broadcaster and she ditched everything and

1077
01:05:04,989 --> 01:05:08,135
ran under a table immediately. And then there was some

1078
01:05:08,375 --> 01:05:11,962
dipshit, you know, Wesley girl that's going. I think I

1079
01:05:12,002 --> 01:05:14,047
actually have the clip of her. Hold on a second.

1080
01:05:14,427 --> 01:05:17,894
Of the Wesley girl? What's that? What is that noise?

1081
01:05:17,954 --> 01:05:20,319
I think this is her. We witnessed a tense moment.

1082
01:05:20,299 --> 01:05:23,525
at the White House late yesterday, our Selena Wang was

1083
01:05:23,586 --> 01:05:26,491
there. And Selena joins me now from the White House.

1084
01:05:27,012 --> 01:05:30,920
And Selena, you were there as shots rang out, clearly

1085
01:05:30,940 --> 01:05:33,525
audible. I want to play a little bit of that

1086
01:05:33,626 --> 01:05:36,932
scene. - That President Trump has said a deal is

1087
01:05:37,112 --> 01:05:40,419
close only for the two sides to remain far apart.

1088
01:05:40,843 --> 01:05:45,045
you That was the one, no, you're right, that was

1089
01:05:45,086 --> 01:05:47,250
the one who had to go, well, I think she

1090
01:05:47,310 --> 01:05:49,715
actually said something about it, hold on. Going on for

1091
01:05:49,816 --> 01:05:53,082
quite some time, what was going on? Yeah, John, I

1092
01:05:53,123 --> 01:05:56,169
mean, this shooting was actually happening just meters from where

1093
01:05:56,189 --> 01:06:00,077
I'm standing. Meters? Meters? Meters? Since when do we use

1094
01:06:00,218 --> 01:06:07,198
meters? That's a good one. What? Meters. Meters? She's a

1095
01:06:07,298 --> 01:06:11,584
Chinese spy. Time. What was going on? Yeah, John, I

1096
01:06:11,624 --> 01:06:14,649
mean, this shooting was actually happening just meters from where

1097
01:06:14,669 --> 01:06:16,872
I'm standing right now. And in that video you played,

1098
01:06:16,892 --> 01:06:19,256
that is the exact place where I'm here right now.

1099
01:06:19,276 --> 01:06:21,640
I was preparing to go live for World News. tonight

1100
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,204
and you notice in the video that I continue talking

1101
01:06:24,284 --> 01:06:26,808
for the first few seconds of those gunshots because my

1102
01:06:26,868 --> 01:06:29,853
initial thought was this must be fireworks or something else.

1103
01:06:30,214 --> 01:06:32,437
Then I heard to get down so the team and

1104
01:06:32,477 --> 01:06:35,622
I we immediately dropped to the ground, ducked and covered.

1105
01:06:35,642 --> 01:06:38,687
Then we heard Secret Service yelling for us to move,

1106
01:06:39,008 --> 01:06:44,116
to sprint to the... Okay, anyway. Um... And moving on.

1107
01:06:44,919 --> 01:06:47,539
So I got a, one of our knights sent me

1108
01:06:47,580 --> 01:06:52,104
a very long email. He said, You shouldn't be so

1109
01:06:52,285 --> 01:06:57,091
glib about the Muslims. Okay. You're glib about the Muslims?

1110
01:06:57,292 --> 01:07:01,535
Yeah, that, you know, well... He was kind of misstating

1111
01:07:01,616 --> 01:07:03,973
it. And this is what I said, dude, I don't

1112
01:07:03,993 --> 01:07:06,579
know what you're talking about. Because he was saying, these

1113
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,089
foreigners coming in. I'm doing an accent. These foreigners coming

1114
01:07:10,149 --> 01:07:12,716
in, they're taking away jobs from our kids. All the

1115
01:07:12,936 --> 01:07:17,528
H-1B visas. And I said, first of all, we're talking

1116
01:07:17,548 --> 01:07:22,219
about something else. But right as I'm reading this email.

1117
01:07:23,091 --> 01:07:26,338
this new policy comes out, which I think is a

1118
01:07:26,499 --> 01:07:30,547
dynamite policy for the United States, which takes care in

1119
01:07:30,828 --> 01:07:35,238
one fell swoop of all the issues about H-1B visas.

1120
01:07:35,378 --> 01:07:38,264
And I really like it. And I've been dealing with

1121
01:07:38,305 --> 01:07:43,932
immigration in the U.S. for... Ah, 30, more than 30

1122
01:07:44,013 --> 01:07:48,166
years. I've made many people legal, some I was married

1123
01:07:48,206 --> 01:07:53,148
to, some not. But this is a very good policy.

1124
01:07:53,630 --> 01:07:57,163
Well, the Trump administration announcing a major shift in how

1125
01:07:57,244 --> 01:08:01,700
it processes green card applications moving forward non-immigrants. in the

1126
01:08:01,820 --> 01:08:04,225
U.S. are going to have to return to their home

1127
01:08:04,305 --> 01:08:08,533
countries. Scripps News legal affairs correspondent Abidjoi Burnett is looking

1128
01:08:08,633 --> 01:08:12,341
into this, James. So, Abidjoi, who would be impacted by

1129
01:08:12,381 --> 01:08:15,828
it? Quite a few people, a couple thousand people, maybe

1130
01:08:15,888 --> 01:08:19,515
hundreds of thousands, according to some immigration attorneys, could be

1131
01:08:19,615 --> 01:08:23,744
impacted here. This is a new memo that... of Homeland

1132
01:08:23,784 --> 01:08:36,850
Security under USCIS. in the United States who want to

1133
01:08:38,153 --> 01:08:43,964
apply for a green card, This memo was issued late

1134
01:08:44,004 --> 01:08:47,311
last evening, but we started to see more details on

1135
01:08:47,471 --> 01:08:51,640
what reactions were like earlier today. And some of the

1136
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,606
people who could potentially be impacted here are students, people

1137
01:08:54,666 --> 01:08:57,952
who came to the United States as students. There could

1138
01:08:58,012 --> 01:09:01,948
be people who are here as temporary workers. and even

1139
01:09:02,028 --> 01:09:06,575
tourists. And here's what an official with USCIS, this is

1140
01:09:07,156 --> 01:09:10,161
the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, this is what a

1141
01:09:10,221 --> 01:09:14,107
spokesperson for that agency, which is under DHS, this is

1142
01:09:14,167 --> 01:09:16,932
what they said with regards to this new memo that

1143
01:09:17,012 --> 01:09:21,099
has been really getting quite some attention. They said, we

1144
01:09:21,179 --> 01:09:24,645
are... ...returning to the original intent of the law to

1145
01:09:24,706 --> 01:09:29,696
ensure aliens navigate our nation's immigration systems properly. From now

1146
01:09:29,856 --> 01:09:32,942
on, an alien who is in the U.S. temporarily and

1147
01:09:33,042 --> 01:09:36,950
wants a green card must return to their home country

1148
01:09:37,251 --> 01:09:42,698
to apply, except for in extraordinary circumstances. Yes, this is

1149
01:09:42,779 --> 01:09:45,560
good. And I don't know if people understand how this

1150
01:09:45,620 --> 01:09:48,447
is going to impact the H-1B. And of course, the

1151
01:09:48,547 --> 01:09:52,678
people who do H-1B immigration visas, temporary visas, they're all

1152
01:09:52,718 --> 01:09:55,304
flipping out about it. But here's the explanation of how

1153
01:09:55,364 --> 01:09:58,512
this will actually impact them. And we have to presume

1154
01:09:58,552 --> 01:10:00,778
that the only way this will work is if the

1155
01:10:00,918 --> 01:10:07,116
U.S. UCIS If they, was it UCI? Yeah, the US,

1156
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,965
the immigration services. They have to have enough people and

1157
01:10:12,065 --> 01:10:15,460
systems to actually handle this. But I've done this. I've

1158
01:10:15,500 --> 01:10:18,955
had to arrange a green card with someone going back.

1159
01:10:19,343 --> 01:10:21,832
to their country of origin. And it took a few

1160
01:10:21,872 --> 01:10:25,297
weeks, but it's not impossible. And if they make that

1161
01:10:25,357 --> 01:10:27,941
system work that way, it's going to be very good,

1162
01:10:28,281 --> 01:10:31,686
particularly for those of you worried about H-1B visa holders

1163
01:10:31,746 --> 01:10:34,530
taking your kids' jobs. Some of the attorneys who I

1164
01:10:34,550 --> 01:10:38,355
spoke with earlier today, they weren't as concerned about what

1165
01:10:38,375 --> 01:10:41,560
this actually means. One person told me they... are pretty

1166
01:10:41,620 --> 01:10:45,107
sure people will be able to continue to apply for

1167
01:10:45,167 --> 01:10:47,832
that green card status but then there are other attorneys

1168
01:10:47,933 --> 01:10:50,558
who were really concerned they said that they've been getting

1169
01:10:50,578 --> 01:10:53,664
many calls from their clients some of those clients are

1170
01:10:53,684 --> 01:10:58,694
extremely alarmed and they're talking about people who have family

1171
01:10:58,754 --> 01:11:00,898
members here there are folks who are working here in

1172
01:11:00,938 --> 01:11:03,611
the united States. They may be married to U.S. citizens.

1173
01:11:03,931 --> 01:11:07,437
They may be here on an H-1B visa where they're

1174
01:11:07,557 --> 01:11:09,780
able to work. So pretty much they have set up

1175
01:11:10,161 --> 01:11:12,364
lives here in the United States and they're going through

1176
01:11:12,404 --> 01:11:15,229
this process of applying for a green card. So they're

1177
01:11:15,269 --> 01:11:18,314
now wondering what is next for us. Take a listen

1178
01:11:18,334 --> 01:11:20,537
to what one of those attorneys told me. Who does

1179
01:11:20,557 --> 01:11:24,745
this impact, right? family members of U.S. citizens, the immediate

1180
01:11:24,805 --> 01:11:27,371
relatives of them, so their spouses, their parents, their children.

1181
01:11:27,892 --> 01:11:33,583
It includes people who are here working with U.S. employers

1182
01:11:33,964 --> 01:11:36,830
who are in the process or in legal status working

1183
01:11:36,970 --> 01:11:40,678
and are in the process of applying for their green

1184
01:11:40,718 --> 01:11:43,354
card, which It can take decades, so it gives them

1185
01:11:43,414 --> 01:11:45,938
a temporary way to stay here so they're not upended

1186
01:11:45,998 --> 01:11:49,042
and their work is not upended. And that attorney with

1187
01:11:49,082 --> 01:11:53,128
the American Immigration Lawyers Association, she told me that this

1188
01:11:53,208 --> 01:11:56,653
is something that could potentially impact hundreds of thousands of

1189
01:11:56,733 --> 01:11:59,837
folks. For example, back in fiscal year 2023, this is

1190
01:11:59,877 --> 01:12:03,704
where we have the most recent. data, about 600,000 people

1191
01:12:03,784 --> 01:12:07,432
were in line applying for their green card, going through

1192
01:12:07,452 --> 01:12:10,578
that process. This is a process that could potentially take

1193
01:12:10,618 --> 01:12:14,106
months or even years. So we're talking about the possibility

1194
01:12:14,386 --> 01:12:17,011
of hundreds of thousands of people who are waiting and

1195
01:12:17,032 --> 01:12:20,719
they're now wondering, what does this actually mean for them?

1196
01:12:20,919 --> 01:12:24,426
We've been told that there's a possibility that lawsuits could

1197
01:12:24,486 --> 01:12:28,635
be filed really to push back against the Trump administration

1198
01:12:28,715 --> 01:12:31,521
and prevent people from being forced to leave the United

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01:12:31,581 --> 01:12:34,567
States. Yeah, I think it's good. This is the way

1200
01:12:34,627 --> 01:12:36,591
it should be. This is how it worked in the

1201
01:12:36,631 --> 01:12:40,419
past. And we got a bunch of Democrat presidents, administration.

1202
01:12:40,399 --> 01:12:43,275
and they made it way too easy. This is how

1203
01:12:43,317 --> 01:12:46,579
it used to be. And you can get, I think,

1204
01:12:46,901 --> 01:12:51,585
probably for marriage, you probably can get a parole, I

1205
01:12:51,625 --> 01:12:56,457
think is what they call it. for some reason. And

1206
01:12:56,498 --> 01:12:58,965
then you can go back quickly and come back in.

1207
01:12:59,066 --> 01:13:01,925
But it's going to... going to help the system see

1208
01:13:02,727 --> 01:13:05,276
who really should be here and who shouldn't be. And

1209
01:13:05,557 --> 01:13:09,912
H1B is just, it's temporary. In, out, gone. None of

1210
01:13:09,952 --> 01:13:12,380
this like, oh, well, you know, now I married this

1211
01:13:12,460 --> 01:13:15,703
person. and now I want a green card and I'll

1212
01:13:15,723 --> 01:13:17,917
just stay here and I'll stay here forever until it's

1213
01:13:17,998 --> 01:13:26,864
processed. This is good. Okay. Let's talk about Tulsi Gabbard

1214
01:13:26,925 --> 01:13:32,257
quitting. Yeah. Yeah, this is another one of those. This

1215
01:13:32,278 --> 01:13:36,593
is a very big disappointment. For you. I liked her.

1216
01:13:36,633 --> 01:13:39,291
Yeah, well, it's... I thought she was good in the

1217
01:13:39,351 --> 01:13:43,663
position. She was... Yeah. She broke the thing about Obama

1218
01:13:43,703 --> 01:13:47,517
being, you know, a horrible person. Mm-hmm. And nothing came

1219
01:13:47,598 --> 01:13:51,408
of it. Mm-hmm. So here's the two clips they have

1220
01:13:51,508 --> 01:13:55,080
NBC. Tonight, as the president weighs resuming the U.S. war

1221
01:13:55,100 --> 01:13:58,933
with Iran, his top intelligence official says she is resigning.

1222
01:13:59,154 --> 01:14:02,927
Director of National Intelligence. Tulsi Gabbard, writing her husband, quote,

1223
01:14:02,987 --> 01:14:06,179
has recently been diagnosed with an extremely rare form of

1224
01:14:06,299 --> 01:14:09,952
bone cancer, saying, I must step away from public service

1225
01:14:09,992 --> 01:14:12,360
to be by his side and fully support him through

1226
01:14:12,401 --> 01:14:15,659
this battle. The president posting that Gabbard has done an

1227
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,811
incredible job and we will miss her. An Army veteran

1228
01:14:18,912 --> 01:14:22,422
and former Democratic congresswoman. Gabbard broke with her party to

1229
01:14:22,482 --> 01:14:25,909
endorse Trump in 2024. I invite you to join me

1230
01:14:25,929 --> 01:14:28,434
in doing all that we can to save our country

1231
01:14:28,474 --> 01:14:33,404
and elect President Donald J. Trump. But as his director

1232
01:14:33,424 --> 01:14:36,290
of national intelligence, Gabbard never fully made it into the

1233
01:14:36,350 --> 01:14:40,919
president's inner circle, clashing with administration officials, including the CIA

1234
01:14:40,939 --> 01:14:45,148
director. and often absent at pivotal decision points. For years,

1235
01:14:45,228 --> 01:14:48,395
an outspoken opponent of American wars in the Middle East.

1236
01:14:48,415 --> 01:14:51,902
Going to war with Iran would make the war in

1237
01:14:51,942 --> 01:14:56,653
Iraq and even Afghanistan look like a picnic. Recently, Gabbard

1238
01:14:56,733 --> 01:14:59,968
struggled to defend the president's attack on Iran. Do you

1239
01:14:59,988 --> 01:15:02,675
still believe that war with Iran would be so costly

1240
01:15:02,715 --> 01:15:05,041
and devastating that it would make our wars in Iraq

1241
01:15:05,061 --> 01:15:07,547
and Afghanistan look like a picnic? Once again, in this

1242
01:15:07,668 --> 01:15:12,219
role, it is essential that I do not allow any

1243
01:15:12,279 --> 01:15:15,207
of my personal views on any issues to color or

1244
01:15:15,287 --> 01:15:20,349
bias the intelligence reporting. Yeah, it is a disappointment. I'm

1245
01:15:20,391 --> 01:15:24,894
with you on that. Part two. A person familiar with

1246
01:15:24,914 --> 01:15:28,320
the discussions telling NBC News that Gabbard's allies had pushed

1247
01:15:28,340 --> 01:15:30,825
her to resign over the war with Iran, but she

1248
01:15:30,865 --> 01:15:34,070
declined. Earlier this year, the president was asked about his

1249
01:15:34,211 --> 01:15:37,296
confidence in Gabbard. I would say that I'm very strong

1250
01:15:37,356 --> 01:15:39,660
in the fact that I don't want... Iran to have

1251
01:15:39,700 --> 01:15:42,085
a nuclear weapon. I think she's probably a little bit

1252
01:15:42,105 --> 01:15:44,590
softer on that issue, but that's OK. Some people are.

1253
01:15:45,031 --> 01:15:47,155
Oh, so they're insinuating she was pushed out and this

1254
01:15:47,216 --> 01:15:49,640
is the excuse. Is that what's happening here? That's what

1255
01:15:49,681 --> 01:15:52,727
they're insinuating. Most people are. Garrett, all of this, as

1256
01:15:52,787 --> 01:15:55,853
President Trump says, he's considering new strikes against Iran. Well,

1257
01:15:55,873 --> 01:15:58,919
Sam, he's given this weekend as a loose deadline for.

1258
01:15:58,899 --> 01:16:01,648
potential resumption of airstrikes. And we've just learned that not

1259
01:16:01,708 --> 01:16:04,397
only will the president not attend his son's wedding, but

1260
01:16:04,417 --> 01:16:06,946
he's also canceled planned travel to his club in New

1261
01:16:07,006 --> 01:16:09,454
Jersey and will instead remain at the White House this

1262
01:16:09,514 --> 01:16:13,294
weekend. I see people on all sides of the political

1263
01:16:13,355 --> 01:16:17,374
spectrum saying, oh, it's just an excuse. Like, you really

1264
01:16:17,395 --> 01:16:21,608
are. That's really rude towards Tulsi Gabbard. If she wanted

1265
01:16:21,648 --> 01:16:26,986
to quit, I'm pretty sure she'd just quit. Yeah, she's

1266
01:16:27,026 --> 01:16:30,396
not a bullshit artist. Here's MS Now. This is the,

1267
01:16:30,717 --> 01:16:32,462
uh, let's see what they say. I'm gonna put you

1268
01:16:32,522 --> 01:16:35,010
on the spot and, um, and I apologize for that,

1269
01:16:35,090 --> 01:16:38,780
David, but we just got this posting from, um... Donald

1270
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,227
Trump on Truth Social, as was predicted by Jake Traylor.

1271
01:16:43,029 --> 01:16:44,572
And I'm going to read it in full, but it

1272
01:16:44,652 --> 01:16:46,676
also talks about who's going to be taking over, at

1273
01:16:46,716 --> 01:16:50,243
least in the interim, for Tulsi Gabbard, a guy named

1274
01:16:50,283 --> 01:16:54,431
Aaron Lucas. But let me read the posting. Unfortunately, after

1275
01:16:54,491 --> 01:16:56,996
having done a great job, Tulsi Gabbard will be leaving

1276
01:16:57,057 --> 01:17:00,500
the administration on June. 30th her wonderful husband stop it

1277
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:05,016
stop the clip I gotta go back on that. A

1278
01:17:05,157 --> 01:17:10,729
guy named... Aaron Lucas. So you don't refer, normally you

1279
01:17:10,750 --> 01:17:14,798
would just say his name. what his position is. But

1280
01:17:14,819 --> 01:17:17,695
the way to say a guy named as if it's

1281
01:17:17,756 --> 01:17:20,048
like, as I say, I don't know, some guy named

1282
01:17:20,109 --> 01:17:22,924
blah. Well, they're going to follow up with who he

1283
01:17:23,065 --> 01:17:27,291
is. But it's beside the point. It's a disrespectful way

1284
01:17:27,331 --> 01:17:31,148
of presenting it. Also. You'll hear in this clip that

1285
01:17:31,209 --> 01:17:35,727
she's going to be leaving June 30th. Which is, I

1286
01:17:35,828 --> 01:17:39,219
guess that's a, she has a transition period while she's...

1287
01:17:39,259 --> 01:17:45,748
Helping her husband? It wasn't immediate. She didn't walk out

1288
01:17:45,789 --> 01:17:47,934
in a huff. No, she did not. In full, but

1289
01:17:48,014 --> 01:17:50,099
it also talks about who's going to be taking over,

1290
01:17:50,139 --> 01:17:53,527
at least in the interim, for Tulsi Gabbard, a guy

1291
01:17:53,567 --> 01:17:56,254
named Aaron Lucas. But let me read the post. You're

1292
01:17:56,274 --> 01:18:00,643
right. That is funny. Unfortunately, after having done a great

1293
01:18:00,683 --> 01:18:03,810
job, Tulsi Gabbard will be leaving the administration on June

1294
01:18:03,830 --> 01:18:08,178
30th. Her wonderful husband, Abraham, has been recently diagnosed with

1295
01:18:08,258 --> 01:18:11,124
a rare form of bone cancer, and she, rightfully, wants

1296
01:18:11,184 --> 01:18:13,509
to be with him, bringing him back to good health

1297
01:18:13,629 --> 01:18:16,535
as they currently fight a tough battle together. I have

1298
01:18:16,615 --> 01:18:19,336
no doubt he will soon be better than ever. Tulsi

1299
01:18:19,356 --> 01:18:21,701
has done an incredible job, and we will miss her.

1300
01:18:22,242 --> 01:18:25,991
Her highly respected principal deputy director of national intelligence, Aaron

1301
01:18:26,031 --> 01:18:30,281
Lucas, will serve as acting director of national intelligence. All

1302
01:18:30,301 --> 01:18:32,846
right, let's find out who Aaron is. I'm looking at

1303
01:18:32,906 --> 01:18:36,575
his bio, but he's a seasoned intelligence professional, former CIA

1304
01:18:36,815 --> 01:18:39,361
chief of station. Do you know any... else about him

1305
01:18:39,461 --> 01:18:42,106
can you get any more insights yeah he's a guy

1306
01:18:42,126 --> 01:18:45,593
and he's named Aaron into this guy Aaron Lucas she

1307
01:18:45,633 --> 01:18:48,198
does it again this is it again a guy what

1308
01:18:48,279 --> 01:18:50,443
is the point what is the point is this guy

1309
01:18:50,543 --> 01:18:52,988
who is this guy I'm looking now I mean he

1310
01:18:53,028 --> 01:18:55,072
was confirmed by the Senate in a sort of party

1311
01:18:55,112 --> 01:19:00,051
line vote but there was I think he is experienced

1312
01:19:00,111 --> 01:19:01,715
and I want to give him a chance. I don't

1313
01:19:01,776 --> 01:19:04,664
know him specifically in his background very well. And I

1314
01:19:05,205 --> 01:19:07,993
sort of agree with Mark here. Do some work. This

1315
01:19:08,394 --> 01:19:12,550
is going to be John Ratcliffe. So there'll be someone

1316
01:19:12,590 --> 01:19:15,689
in that position, but... One of the problems is that

1317
01:19:15,730 --> 01:19:19,762
another key person, the director of the National National Counterintelligence

1318
01:19:20,243 --> 01:19:26,417
Center resigned because in opposition to the war with Iraq.

1319
01:19:26,457 --> 01:19:31,209
So you now have no Senate confirmed director of national

1320
01:19:31,369 --> 01:19:34,888
intelligence. um you'll have an acting in that position and

1321
01:19:34,949 --> 01:19:40,053
the nctc wait stop Didn't he just a few seconds

1322
01:19:40,133 --> 01:19:46,318
ago say that along party lines, they confirmed this guy

1323
01:19:46,458 --> 01:19:49,839
Aaron? Yeah, yeah. Well, now is he saying there's no

1324
01:19:49,900 --> 01:19:53,718
confirmed? What is he talking about? It's either confirmed or

1325
01:19:53,758 --> 01:19:57,755
it's not. No, no. Along party lines. But he's... Let's

1326
01:19:57,775 --> 01:20:01,154
listen again. Hold on. with Iraq. So you now have

1327
01:20:01,174 --> 01:20:07,603
no Senate-confirmed Director of National Intelligence. You'll have an acting

1328
01:20:07,643 --> 01:20:12,991
in that position, and the NCTC position is empty as

1329
01:20:13,071 --> 01:20:16,676
well. So it's not great to have Joe Kent had

1330
01:20:16,736 --> 01:20:19,269
resigned from the position of National Intelligence. the director of

1331
01:20:19,290 --> 01:20:24,891
the National Counterterrorism Center. That is underneath the ODNI. That's

1332
01:20:25,031 --> 01:20:29,634
underneath Gabbard's old office. this kind of vacancy and changes

1333
01:20:29,754 --> 01:20:32,823
while the U.S. is at war, you know, is not

1334
01:20:32,883 --> 01:20:36,674
great. And I want to reemphasize there should have been

1335
01:20:36,715 --> 01:20:40,387
an intelligence assessment. How would Iran respond to being bombed?

1336
01:20:40,528 --> 01:20:43,073
Would Iran try to seize control of the straight-forward moves?

1337
01:20:43,093 --> 01:20:46,120
And I'm just saying this for viewers, and that has

1338
01:20:46,140 --> 01:20:50,289
to be an incredibly factual, rigorous assessment, not based on—

1339
01:20:50,309 --> 01:20:56,316
Hold on. Stop it again. Who says there wasn't? MSNOW.

1340
01:20:56,336 --> 01:21:01,009
Who says there wasn't? MSNOW. These guys just make it

1341
01:21:01,089 --> 01:21:03,137
up as they go along? He doesn't know one way

1342
01:21:03,157 --> 01:21:04,824
or the other. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they make it

1343
01:21:04,884 --> 01:21:08,457
up as they go along. Yes. In fact, I'm quite

1344
01:21:08,518 --> 01:21:12,317
sure. They're getting most of their news off of X

1345
01:21:12,377 --> 01:21:17,670
like everybody else. That's what that is. I don't know

1346
01:21:17,853 --> 01:21:21,265
how anyone. can watch this crap. Well, it's our job,

1347
01:21:21,285 --> 01:21:25,994
John. No, I'm saying, see, MS now is a deplorable

1348
01:21:26,014 --> 01:21:30,303
operation. Politics or, you know, the wishes of the president,

1349
01:21:30,343 --> 01:21:34,472
frankly, it's important for intelligence to speak truth to power.

1350
01:21:34,672 --> 01:21:36,376
Truth to power. Because there was a mistake in this

1351
01:21:36,456 --> 01:21:39,482
war. We didn't seem to have... anticipate that Iran would

1352
01:21:39,923 --> 01:21:43,009
close the Strait of Hormuz and you know you've now

1353
01:21:43,089 --> 01:21:45,614
had to know that he doesn't know that at all

1354
01:21:45,694 --> 01:21:47,878
gone for no reason no that is possible that we

1355
01:21:47,938 --> 01:21:51,526
exactly what we wanted yes months in a global energy

1356
01:21:51,586 --> 01:21:56,616
crisis so that's why having stability and non-partisan people in

1357
01:21:56,636 --> 01:22:00,485
these jobs is so important yeah but Nonpartisan people. Nonpartisan,

1358
01:22:01,408 --> 01:22:05,620
my ass. Well, this is one of these guys who's,

1359
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,167
you know, he's a contributor. So he wants to be

1360
01:22:08,207 --> 01:22:11,476
contributing, wants to keep contributing. So he's got to say

1361
01:22:11,516 --> 01:22:14,525
things that they want to hear the contributor say. I

1362
01:22:14,566 --> 01:22:17,149
get it. He's just doing his job. I thought I

1363
01:22:17,210 --> 01:22:20,223
had a Fox version of this story. Let me listen.

1364
01:22:20,303 --> 01:22:21,526
Tony, I want to move to this because there's some

1365
01:22:21,546 --> 01:22:23,910
big news that happened last night. We learned that Tulsi

1366
01:22:23,930 --> 01:22:30,223
Gabbard, DNI director, has put in her resignation. And part

1367
01:22:30,263 --> 01:22:33,169
of it is because or the reason she says she

1368
01:22:33,269 --> 01:22:36,937
is resigning is her husband, Abraham, has come down with

1369
01:22:37,137 --> 01:22:39,904
a rare form of. Bone cancer. Those of us who

1370
01:22:39,944 --> 01:22:42,390
know her and her husband, they are the most amazing

1371
01:22:42,431 --> 01:22:47,444
people, are heartbroken over this. And yet, I want you

1372
01:22:47,484 --> 01:22:50,873
to watch this montage of how the Democrats. They're doing

1373
01:22:50,913 --> 01:22:55,546
super cuts now. Have reacted to this news. This is

1374
01:22:55,608 --> 01:22:59,523
the fourth woman to leave the administration? In the past

1375
01:22:59,563 --> 01:23:02,970
few months. The impact on US foreign policy, I think

1376
01:23:03,010 --> 01:23:05,856
it's basically irrelevant. She was entirely out of the loop

1377
01:23:06,958 --> 01:23:10,485
on decision making. This was because basically she's just not

1378
01:23:10,585 --> 01:23:14,012
in sync with this administration. This is why her initials

1379
01:23:14,814 --> 01:23:19,165
D&I became Do Not Invite. You know, probably one of

1380
01:23:19,185 --> 01:23:24,582
the worst things that I've read. Yeah, no, I'm pretty

1381
01:23:24,703 --> 01:23:28,143
sure that this is a real resignation for those reasons.

1382
01:23:29,747 --> 01:23:32,602
I think she was having a good time. I think

1383
01:23:32,622 --> 01:23:34,582
she actually... Yeah, she seemed to be. She was on

1384
01:23:34,642 --> 01:23:37,417
a lot of podcasts and she was... yakking it up

1385
01:23:37,498 --> 01:23:40,374
and she seemed competent and she did the thing about

1386
01:23:40,455 --> 01:23:45,707
Obama which nobody followed up on. And that was a

1387
01:23:45,748 --> 01:23:53,506
big deal. Yeah. So, I don't know. Here is... Just

1388
01:23:53,527 --> 01:23:56,700
to remind everybody, this is what she did. She did

1389
01:23:56,740 --> 01:24:00,127
this years ago. Declassified by the Office of the Director

1390
01:24:00,207 --> 01:24:04,495
of National Intelligence yesterday and released publicly just moments ago

1391
01:24:04,515 --> 01:24:08,342
is an exchange of emails initiated by Michael S. Rogers,

1392
01:24:08,823 --> 01:24:11,729
the four-star admiral now retired. Did you ever hear this?

1393
01:24:11,889 --> 01:24:15,055
I never really heard this one about. We liked Rogers,

1394
01:24:15,236 --> 01:24:17,921
Admiral Rogers, who was running the NSA. Yeah, he was

1395
01:24:17,941 --> 01:24:20,486
a good guy. And he was the one that said,

1396
01:24:20,506 --> 01:24:23,672
hey, this FBI guy is pulling all kinds of stuff.

1397
01:24:23,692 --> 01:24:26,398
They're spying on you, dude. They're spying on you, man.

1398
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,566
But I never heard about this. This is about the

1399
01:24:30,646 --> 01:24:33,913
intelligence assessment, which is very bad for Clapper. Who headed

1400
01:24:33,953 --> 01:24:37,480
the National Security Agency in the second Obama term. Rogers

1401
01:24:37,540 --> 01:24:40,887
wrote to his boss, then Director of National Intelligence James

1402
01:24:40,927 --> 01:24:44,694
Clapper, in late December of 2016 to say that he,

1403
01:24:44,734 --> 01:24:47,901
the Admiral, had just returned from overseas travel and had

1404
01:24:47,941 --> 01:24:50,766
received an update on, quote, our efforts to produce a

1405
01:24:50,886 --> 01:24:55,215
joint product related to Russian attribution and intent for the

1406
01:24:55,275 --> 01:24:59,239
DNC-DCCC hacks. I know that this activity is on a

1407
01:24:59,339 --> 01:25:02,446
fast track, Rogers wrote, to put together a product that

1408
01:25:02,486 --> 01:25:05,252
can be provided to the president. I asked my team

1409
01:25:05,312 --> 01:25:08,539
if they'd had sufficient access to the underlying intelligence and

1410
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:12,147
sufficient time to review that intelligence. On both points, Rogers

1411
01:25:12,188 --> 01:25:16,397
said, my team raised concerns. My folks aren't fully comfortable

1412
01:25:16,457 --> 01:25:21,407
saying they've had enough. to be absolutely confident in their

1413
01:25:21,447 --> 01:25:40,835
assessments, he wrote. that is CIA, FBI, NSA jointly authored,

1414
01:25:41,217 --> 01:25:48,945
that we can all defend. If NSA is intended to

1415
01:25:48,985 --> 01:25:52,159
be a co-author of this product, Rogers said also, I

1416
01:25:52,299 --> 01:25:55,794
personally expect to see even the most sensitive evidence related

1417
01:25:55,875 --> 01:25:58,309
to the conclusion. If your intent is to create a

1418
01:25:58,389 --> 01:26:04,279
CIA-only or CIA-FBI-authored product, then, Rogers concluded, I will stand

1419
01:26:04,339 --> 01:26:07,264
down on these concerns. Had you ever heard about this?

1420
01:26:07,544 --> 01:26:10,028
No, not at all. There's a part two to this

1421
01:26:10,108 --> 01:26:14,415
which really, really nails Clapper. On that email, Admiral Rogers

1422
01:26:14,475 --> 01:26:18,723
cc'd FBI Director James Comey, seen as... and CIA Director

1423
01:26:18,763 --> 01:26:22,210
John Brennan seen at screen right, flanking the DNI, James

1424
01:26:22,250 --> 01:26:25,336
Clapper seated in the middle for their joint congressional testimony

1425
01:26:25,356 --> 01:26:29,425
10 months before this email in February of 2016. Director

1426
01:26:29,485 --> 01:26:32,150
Clapper took a little over 12 hours to reply to

1427
01:26:32,190 --> 01:26:34,976
Admiral Rogers, and when he did, he addressed Brennan and

1428
01:26:35,016 --> 01:26:38,082
Comey as well, suggesting... They too, during those 12 hours,

1429
01:26:38,203 --> 01:26:41,970
privately expressed views similar to those of Rogers. Clapper began,

1430
01:26:42,451 --> 01:26:47,040
Mike, John, Jim, understand your concern. It is essential that

1431
01:26:47,121 --> 01:26:51,329
we, CIA, NSA, FBI, ODNI, be on the same page,

1432
01:26:51,389 --> 01:26:54,596
Clapper wrote, and we're all supportive of the report. In

1433
01:26:54,636 --> 01:26:58,644
the highest tradition of, that's... and we're sticking to it,

1434
01:26:58,884 --> 01:27:20,413
quote-unquote. We may have to compromise on our normal modalities,

1435
01:27:21,075 --> 01:27:23,383
since we must do this on such a compressed timetable.

1436
01:27:23,885 --> 01:27:27,157
This, Clapper concluded, is one project that has to be

1437
01:27:27,197 --> 01:27:32,836
a team sport. Jim. This latest declassification by Director Tulsi

1438
01:27:32,856 --> 01:27:35,975
Gabbard's office comes after she referred these matters to the

1439
01:27:36,015 --> 01:27:39,854
Justice Department. for additional investigation. And Attorney General Pam Bondi

1440
01:27:39,894 --> 01:27:42,828
then directed the impanelment of a federal grand jury in

1441
01:27:42,908 --> 01:27:47,296
Florida. Yeah. Clapper, we always knew this guy was the

1442
01:27:47,357 --> 01:27:52,298
loser. Yeah. He's the one that screws it all up.

1443
01:27:52,559 --> 01:27:55,675
And he did all, well, you know, the timeline is

1444
01:27:55,735 --> 01:27:58,733
important, so... We may have to go away from our

1445
01:27:58,813 --> 01:28:03,681
regular modalities, i.e. just write something up. I think this

1446
01:28:03,761 --> 01:28:06,790
is more smoking gun than people realize. I think so,

1447
01:28:06,830 --> 01:28:09,077
too. But then I, you know, went over to Bondi.

1448
01:28:09,117 --> 01:28:11,544
That was the end of it. Well, no, no, no.

1449
01:28:11,644 --> 01:28:14,793
No, Bondi referred it to. No, no, no, no. I

1450
01:28:14,813 --> 01:28:18,315
think DeGenoa is doing that stuff. Florida. Isn't that DeGenima?

1451
01:28:18,457 --> 01:28:23,589
Isn't he running that? I think so. What? What? Yes,

1452
01:28:23,610 --> 01:28:27,599
DeGenoa and his wife. No. Yes, yes. What, the sealed

1453
01:28:27,660 --> 01:28:31,228
indictments guy? Yes, yes. No, that guy's not even in

1454
01:28:31,289 --> 01:28:35,539
the picture. He is, he is. Yes, he is DeGenoa.

1455
01:28:36,183 --> 01:28:41,205
Let me see. Yes. Yes. You're... I'm telling you. Well,

1456
01:28:41,225 --> 01:28:43,478
you can be telling me all you want. I want

1457
01:28:43,499 --> 01:28:45,530
some evidence. Yeah, I'm looking. I thought I had a

1458
01:28:45,591 --> 01:28:51,229
clip about him. Uh, Joe... I know Gorka's back in

1459
01:28:51,269 --> 01:28:54,806
the picture. What's he doing? I don't know, but somebody

1460
01:28:54,846 --> 01:28:59,619
mentioned he's part of the administration, not doing something. Sebastian

1461
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:03,983
Gorka. Now I'm going to have... Here, here, here. Clapper.

1462
01:29:04,755 --> 01:29:07,546
telling you it was i'm telling you is the genoa

1463
01:29:07,646 --> 01:29:11,903
and you're having a big no dream no no no

1464
01:29:12,003 --> 01:29:14,975
no hold on a second well let's uh let's ask

1465
01:29:15,015 --> 01:29:19,811
the book of knowledge That'll do it. Let me see.

1466
01:29:21,063 --> 01:29:30,480
There's a... Uh... Oh man. Here we go. Where is

1467
01:29:30,521 --> 01:29:34,351
this out? Okay. So book of knowledge, yes. Hopefully this

1468
01:29:34,472 --> 01:29:38,603
will work. Book of knowledge. Is Joe DiGenoa involved? in

1469
01:29:38,906 --> 01:29:51,421
the grand jury in Florida about Russiagate. The long, long,

1470
01:29:51,623 --> 01:29:54,795
long search for the book of knowledge. According to the

1471
01:29:54,856 --> 01:29:58,961
Book of Knowledge, Joe DiGenova will oversee the... Spygate probe

1472
01:29:59,021 --> 01:30:03,109
in Florida after the DOJ removed a deep state prosecutor

1473
01:30:03,470 --> 01:30:07,378
and is heading up a Florida-based federal investigation into former

1474
01:30:07,458 --> 01:30:11,927
federal officials who investigated Trump. He assumes leadership of the

1475
01:30:12,087 --> 01:30:16,095
ongoing grand jury probe based in Fort Pierce, with the

1476
01:30:16,155 --> 01:30:21,607
investigation being overseen by U.S. Attorney Jason Redding-Quijones and using

1477
01:30:21,688 --> 01:30:27,683
a grand jury run by Judge Eileen Cannon. DOS It

1478
01:30:27,704 --> 01:30:30,931
has been written. Told you. Oh, that's going to go

1479
01:30:30,971 --> 01:30:37,919
nowhere then. Well, that's a possibility, but for some reason...

1480
01:30:37,899 --> 01:30:41,462
and they brought him back in. Yeah. To kill it.

1481
01:30:43,506 --> 01:30:45,892
We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. Okay, I got two

1482
01:30:45,992 --> 01:30:48,056
clips here I want to... I do have a clip

1483
01:30:48,097 --> 01:30:51,544
blitz if we have time for it. Oh, goodness. Let's

1484
01:30:51,584 --> 01:30:55,633
do the newer UFO files just released. Yes. NBC clip.

1485
01:30:55,754 --> 01:30:59,722
Yes. New, new, new. New release. UFO files, like this

1486
01:30:59,842 --> 01:31:03,089
one in Kazakhstan, a mysterious object lighting up the night

1487
01:31:03,129 --> 01:31:07,498
sky. Other videos showing pulsing balls of light flying erratically

1488
01:31:07,618 --> 01:31:10,964
and seeming to defy laws of physics. Some even appearing

1489
01:31:11,004 --> 01:31:13,950
to fly in formations. Part of the Pentagon's release of

1490
01:31:14,010 --> 01:31:18,159
more than 50 declassified videos and first-hand accounts following President

1491
01:31:18,179 --> 01:31:24,926
Trump's directive to release government UFO files. The files include

1492
01:31:24,946 --> 01:31:28,876
audio of astronauts decades ago describing mysterious bright lights and

1493
01:31:28,956 --> 01:31:31,082
particles. There's a whole bunch of big ones on my

1494
01:31:31,122 --> 01:31:34,470
weather banner. Just right. Looks like the 4th of July

1495
01:31:34,551 --> 01:31:37,819
outruns my... That's literally from Gemini 7, which is like...

1496
01:31:37,799 --> 01:31:41,587
Was I even born when this came out? I don't

1497
01:31:41,607 --> 01:31:43,471
think so. In this report from last year, in an

1498
01:31:43,551 --> 01:31:47,018
encounter that lasted over an hour, a U.S. intelligence officer

1499
01:31:47,078 --> 01:31:51,266
reported oval-shaped orange orbs coming within 10 feet of a

1500
01:31:51,427 --> 01:31:55,395
U.S. helicopter, splitting in two and speeding away, leaving military

1501
01:31:55,435 --> 01:31:59,695
and intelligence professionals speechless. Other videos may have an explanation.

1502
01:32:00,015 --> 01:32:02,940
Here, a U.S. F-16 fighter jet shoots down an object

1503
01:32:03,060 --> 01:32:06,686
over Michigan's Lake Huron in 2023, the same day the

1504
01:32:06,726 --> 01:32:09,451
Pentagon said it shot down a possible Chinese spy balloon

1505
01:32:09,491 --> 01:32:12,957
over that lake. Experts tell us no video released so

1506
01:32:13,017 --> 01:32:17,329
far proves any... Hold on, stop. Despite Balloon wasn't shot

1507
01:32:17,390 --> 01:32:19,638
down over Lake- curing it was shot down over the

1508
01:32:19,698 --> 01:32:25,476
Atlantic. Well, there were two spy balloons, weren't there? I

1509
01:32:25,536 --> 01:32:27,724
don't remember two. All I remember is the one that

1510
01:32:27,764 --> 01:32:30,252
they let go floating all over the place. It was

1511
01:32:30,353 --> 01:32:33,383
a daily news item. And then once it got to

1512
01:32:33,443 --> 01:32:35,932
the Atlantic, they shot it down. With a missile. With

1513
01:32:35,972 --> 01:32:39,502
a million dollar missile. Yeah. I think there was another

1514
01:32:39,582 --> 01:32:41,967
one that floated down and that's how they figured out

1515
01:32:41,987 --> 01:32:44,211
it was from China. Pretty sure there was another one.

1516
01:32:44,231 --> 01:32:46,455
I'm not convinced of that. But it wasn't Shemuel. Hey,

1517
01:32:46,776 --> 01:32:48,940
don't make me consult the book of knowledge. Object over

1518
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:52,828
Michigan's Lake Huron in 2023. The same day the Pentagon

1519
01:32:52,848 --> 01:32:55,773
said it shot down a possible Chinese spy balloon over

1520
01:32:55,794 --> 01:32:58,619
that lake. Experts tell us no video released so far.

1521
01:32:58,599 --> 01:33:05,212
There's nothing in any of these that proves anything about

1522
01:33:05,232 --> 01:33:08,259
alien life. All it shows you is that there's stuff

1523
01:33:08,299 --> 01:33:11,846
in the sky that initially can't be explained. This was

1524
01:33:11,886 --> 01:33:14,852
the Pentagon's second release of UFO files, and they're expected

1525
01:33:14,872 --> 01:33:16,796
to roll out the next one in the coming weeks.

1526
01:33:16,936 --> 01:33:19,723
Yes, I'm pretty sure that... We are only, what are

1527
01:33:19,763 --> 01:33:22,210
we now, two and a half weeks away from Steven

1528
01:33:22,250 --> 01:33:26,904
Spielberg's Disclosure Day? Yeah, and the releases will end after

1529
01:33:26,944 --> 01:33:30,554
the movie does its thing. Well, yes, it probably will.

1530
01:33:30,634 --> 01:33:34,092
Let's see if I had any... No, I just said

1531
01:33:34,273 --> 01:33:36,265
that's not important. Let's go to the next item, which

1532
01:33:36,326 --> 01:33:41,275
is the Ebola update, BBC. Yes, yes, this is interesting.

1533
01:33:41,455 --> 01:33:44,219
Health officials in the Democratic Republic of Congo say the

1534
01:33:44,279 --> 01:33:47,824
current Ebola outbreak has resulted in more than 200 deaths

1535
01:33:48,004 --> 01:33:52,030
in three provinces. Earlier on Saturday, the government suspended all

1536
01:33:52,090 --> 01:33:55,375
flights to and from one of the epicenters, the northeastern

1537
01:33:55,395 --> 01:33:59,733
city of Bunia. Thomas Nadi reports. It's unusual for the

1538
01:33:59,793 --> 01:34:04,820
DRC government to suspend flights during an Ebola outbreak. Previously,

1539
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:09,486
airline operators have made this decision for themselves. The Transport

1540
01:34:09,546 --> 01:34:13,331
Ministry said the measure was to prevent any cross-border spread

1541
01:34:13,372 --> 01:34:16,456
of the epidemic and to guarantee the health and safety

1542
01:34:16,496 --> 01:34:21,364
of passengers, crews and airports. staff. The Transport Ministry did

1543
01:34:21,424 --> 01:34:25,512
not say it was banning humanitarian, medical or emergency flights,

1544
01:34:25,953 --> 01:34:28,939
but that these will be assessed and will require approval

1545
01:34:28,979 --> 01:34:33,288
from health and aviation authorities. The Democratic Republic of Congo's

1546
01:34:33,328 --> 01:34:36,234
football team say they will not change their preparations for

1547
01:34:36,274 --> 01:34:39,420
next month's World Cup, despite being told to isolate by

1548
01:34:39,480 --> 01:34:42,887
the United States because of the Ebola outbreak. A White

1549
01:34:42,907 --> 01:34:45,091
House official said the squad needed to remain in a

1550
01:34:45,151 --> 01:34:48,177
bubble for 21 days before traveling to the U.S. I

1551
01:34:48,197 --> 01:34:50,582
love the bubble. But a Congolese spokesperson said all the

1552
01:34:50,622 --> 01:34:53,908
players were based outside the DRC and their plans remained

1553
01:34:53,928 --> 01:34:56,834
the same. Well, since you brought it up, I've got

1554
01:34:56,894 --> 01:34:59,419
our scarf lady back again. She's still in the news.

1555
01:34:59,399 --> 01:35:02,768
Deborah Birx. The WHO rather says there are now almost

1556
01:35:02,788 --> 01:35:07,501
750 suspected cases in the Congo, around the Congo, and

1557
01:35:07,581 --> 01:35:11,612
nearly 200 deaths. How does the severity of this situation

1558
01:35:11,652 --> 01:35:16,937
compare to previous outbreaks? Well, the problem with this particular

1559
01:35:17,058 --> 01:35:20,721
outbreak is there was probably two, three or four cycles

1560
01:35:20,761 --> 01:35:24,087
of infection before it was even reported. And so a

1561
01:35:24,208 --> 01:35:26,893
lot of the numbers you're seeing and the rapid rise

1562
01:35:26,953 --> 01:35:30,941
of the numbers is because it went undetected and underreported

1563
01:35:30,961 --> 01:35:34,067
for probably three or four weeks. That resulted in a

1564
01:35:34,127 --> 01:35:36,973
lot of case reporting all at once. And so I

1565
01:35:37,053 --> 01:35:39,678
can't really tell you what the slope of new cases

1566
01:35:39,778 --> 01:35:41,782
are, which is It's really the important thing when you're

1567
01:35:41,822 --> 01:35:45,009
following an acute infectious disease. But just to make it

1568
01:35:45,149 --> 01:35:47,935
very clear to your audience, the people we are seeing

1569
01:35:47,995 --> 01:35:51,402
today that are cases were probably infected two weeks ago.

1570
01:35:51,943 --> 01:35:54,508
And so I think that's what makes us all concerned

1571
01:35:54,548 --> 01:35:58,656
is we're looking at this virus and this outbreak with

1572
01:35:58,696 --> 01:36:02,364
really old data. Now, I'm only playing her clips because

1573
01:36:02,404 --> 01:36:05,330
she, for one, said something that was interesting and a

1574
01:36:05,390 --> 01:36:10,380
little counterintuitive to the narrative, and this is on CBS.

1575
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:11,843
As you know, in the past year and a half,

1576
01:36:11,903 --> 01:36:15,671
the Trump administration has largely dismantled U.S. aid. It has

1577
01:36:15,731 --> 01:36:18,436
withdrawn. Come on, Debra, blame it on Trump, blame it

1578
01:36:18,456 --> 01:36:22,632
on Trump. You know I had this clip. Blaming USAID

1579
01:36:22,672 --> 01:36:27,039
for everything. But wait. From the World Health Organization, it

1580
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:31,326
cut funding to the Congo and Uganda. Do you think

1581
01:36:31,386 --> 01:36:36,133
that those moves contributed to the delay in reporting this

1582
01:36:36,274 --> 01:36:40,265
outbreak? And are they contributing to the lack of... supplies

1583
01:36:40,286 --> 01:36:44,640
in dealing with the outbreak in the Congo. Do you

1584
01:36:44,700 --> 01:36:46,204
really have this clip or do you have a clip

1585
01:36:46,244 --> 01:36:48,029
like it? No, I had it. I didn't have that

1586
01:36:48,109 --> 01:36:50,074
exact clip, but I had a clip where they're blaming

1587
01:36:50,214 --> 01:36:54,966
USAID because obviously it's our job to keep the Congo

1588
01:36:55,006 --> 01:36:59,297
from getting Ebola and it's our job to monitor the

1589
01:36:59,317 --> 01:37:03,584
Congo. And the Congolese themselves and everybody in Africa, they

1590
01:37:03,624 --> 01:37:06,268
got nothing to do with anything because they're too stupid.

1591
01:37:06,288 --> 01:37:11,516
So USAID has to be there. And it's been gutted

1592
01:37:11,576 --> 01:37:14,199
by Trump. So this whole thing is Trump's fault. That's

1593
01:37:14,260 --> 01:37:18,125
what she's angling for, our Nancy Cordes. But Birx has

1594
01:37:18,165 --> 01:37:22,022
a different story. Well, when I look what the administration

1595
01:37:22,062 --> 01:37:24,747
has done recently, I think they put 50, 100 million

1596
01:37:24,767 --> 01:37:27,413
dollars out there immediately and sent people as part of

1597
01:37:27,453 --> 01:37:30,939
the response. I think the bigger question to me is

1598
01:37:30,959 --> 01:37:34,266
a lot of us in the global community. The global

1599
01:37:34,306 --> 01:37:37,372
community. John, are you and I in the global community?

1600
01:37:37,492 --> 01:37:42,553
Well, it's possible. Sometimes maybe we. We touch on it.

1601
01:37:42,633 --> 01:37:45,176
And the global community. A lot of us in the

1602
01:37:45,236 --> 01:37:49,823
global community invested extensively in creating the African CDC for

1603
01:37:49,883 --> 01:37:53,568
this very reason, for this very response. Hundreds of millions

1604
01:37:53,609 --> 01:37:57,234
of dollars went into building laboratory capacity in the DRC,

1605
01:37:57,614 --> 01:38:01,404
at the African CDC, and for some reason that... failed

1606
01:38:01,525 --> 01:38:04,411
us and so what we need to do is figure

1607
01:38:04,735 --> 01:38:08,144
So we put hundreds of millions of dollars, hundreds of

1608
01:38:08,204 --> 01:38:11,633
millions of dollars in the global community into the African

1609
01:38:11,694 --> 01:38:15,063
CDC. So we paid for it, our CDC in Africa.

1610
01:38:15,424 --> 01:38:19,113
And for some reason it failed. Aha. Why didn't we

1611
01:38:19,174 --> 01:38:22,081
detect this earlier? Why didn't the instance? Institutions that we

1612
01:38:22,161 --> 01:38:25,688
all stood up as a global community effectively control this

1613
01:38:25,728 --> 01:38:28,333
outbreak early Because I think you guys are just there

1614
01:38:28,353 --> 01:38:31,700
to spread disease You're not actually there to combat it

1615
01:38:31,780 --> 01:38:34,025
so that it didn't spread as far and wide as

1616
01:38:34,105 --> 01:38:37,211
it has within the DRC I understand it's a conflict

1617
01:38:37,311 --> 01:38:39,956
area, but we have to do better. We owe it

1618
01:38:39,976 --> 01:38:41,985
to the people in the DRC And now listen to

1619
01:38:42,005 --> 01:38:46,679
what she says about USAID. This... It completely destroys the

1620
01:38:46,739 --> 01:38:48,845
narrative. I hear what you're saying about the fact that

1621
01:38:48,885 --> 01:38:52,315
the money is now flowing from the US to the

1622
01:38:52,375 --> 01:38:55,503
region. But we talked to aid workers in the region

1623
01:38:55,543 --> 01:38:58,070
as well, who said that a lot of local programs

1624
01:38:58,471 --> 01:39:03,569
were terminated after USAID was dismantled. programs aimed at Ebola

1625
01:39:03,609 --> 01:39:07,148
preparedness and response, and so they just don't have the

1626
01:39:07,188 --> 01:39:12,395
same capacity as they did before. Hold on a second.

1627
01:39:13,455 --> 01:39:17,960
Is this CBS? Yep. So this is Ellison's crowd and

1628
01:39:18,020 --> 01:39:21,842
this is what's her name? Barry Weiss. And they're on

1629
01:39:21,882 --> 01:39:27,914
the side of like re-arming USAID and the scam that

1630
01:39:28,014 --> 01:39:30,740
it is with the money laundering that goes on with

1631
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:34,547
that thing. This is TBS. Why does Nancy Cordes even

1632
01:39:34,988 --> 01:39:37,653
have a job? They are only doing what Israel tells

1633
01:39:37,693 --> 01:39:42,646
them to do, John. Don't you know that? Because Larry

1634
01:39:42,746 --> 01:39:45,220
Ellison, you know. She talked about leading the witness. But

1635
01:39:45,260 --> 01:39:49,596
listen to the answer. As they did before. I think

1636
01:39:49,637 --> 01:39:51,886
it's a great question and we need to really look

1637
01:39:51,946 --> 01:39:55,722
at that. I know CDC's global health security program was

1638
01:39:55,823 --> 01:39:58,394
retained and a lot of that funding retained. I know

1639
01:39:58,434 --> 01:40:02,371
we had people. in Kinshasa as part of the CDC.

1640
01:40:02,732 --> 01:40:04,795
If you look at the Uganda funding, now I'm looking

1641
01:40:04,875 --> 01:40:07,119
at it from the HIV side, which really built a

1642
01:40:07,199 --> 01:40:10,444
lot of the laboratory capacity. This year, they're getting over

1643
01:40:10,464 --> 01:40:13,990
$400 million. So maybe there was a 5% cut. But

1644
01:40:14,050 --> 01:40:17,356
I think the American people were thinking that these programs

1645
01:40:17,416 --> 01:40:20,363
had been slashed. If you look at the MOUs, the

1646
01:40:20,423 --> 01:40:23,075
agreements that the U.S. government have been made, I've actually

1647
01:40:23,115 --> 01:40:27,935
been reassured by the numbers that are there on paper.

1648
01:40:28,835 --> 01:40:33,241
Gotcha. Thank you, Deborah Birx. Unexpected. Yeah, that was good.

1649
01:40:33,281 --> 01:40:35,112
That's a great, I'm giving you a clip of the

1650
01:40:35,152 --> 01:40:37,749
day for that. I am going to accept it with

1651
01:40:38,433 --> 01:40:40,809
great honor. If I could find my clip of the

1652
01:40:40,849 --> 01:40:45,596
day. Yes. With great honor. Great honor as I look

1653
01:40:45,616 --> 01:40:47,880
for it. Hold on, I found it. There's the clip

1654
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,645
of the day. Got a note from one of our

1655
01:40:50,665 --> 01:40:53,289
producers, Boots on the Ground, says, you guys recently mentioned

1656
01:40:53,349 --> 01:40:56,734
a lawsuit against an AI company where Kidd asked if

1657
01:40:56,754 --> 01:41:00,408
it was okay to mix Xanax with Kratom. That is

1658
01:41:00,468 --> 01:41:02,691
a great note, by the way. I am aware of

1659
01:41:02,712 --> 01:41:05,616
this claim because I'm in a couple of pro-Kratom groups.

1660
01:41:05,656 --> 01:41:07,900
Now, we have to say we have a producer who

1661
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:11,245
makes Kratom drinks. He has sent me these Kratom drinks.

1662
01:41:11,265 --> 01:41:13,369
I don't even know what Kratom is. It's a plant.

1663
01:41:13,449 --> 01:41:17,956
The Indians chew this all the time. Indians or American

1664
01:41:18,016 --> 01:41:22,184
Indians? No, Indians. Indians. Indian in India? India in India,

1665
01:41:22,364 --> 01:41:26,092
yes. Oh, okay. It's like, okay. And they extract the

1666
01:41:26,332 --> 01:41:28,176
sap and they do all kinds of stuff with it.

1667
01:41:28,196 --> 01:41:31,282
They chew it, okay. Yeah, they chew it. And I

1668
01:41:31,322 --> 01:41:34,949
remember our producer sent me like 24 bottles and the

1669
01:41:35,030 --> 01:41:38,116
post office was all mad because three of them exploded

1670
01:41:38,176 --> 01:41:40,188
in the box and it was a huge mess. huge

1671
01:41:40,268 --> 01:41:43,192
mess but i drank one or two like yeah what

1672
01:41:43,212 --> 01:41:44,775
does it do to you yeah it gives you a

1673
01:41:44,795 --> 01:41:49,202
little like minor body buzz i guess body buzz yeah

1674
01:41:49,222 --> 01:41:51,986
a little little body buzz but what and when we

1675
01:41:52,026 --> 01:41:54,590
talk about this is years ago people were saying that

1676
01:41:54,610 --> 01:41:57,475
they had been hooked on heroin uh they had all

1677
01:41:57,535 --> 01:42:01,312
kinds of drug dependency issues and kratom was in fact

1678
01:42:01,635 --> 01:42:05,584
what was responsible for them getting off of that and

1679
01:42:05,745 --> 01:42:09,514
it's a natural product now there there is a synthesized

1680
01:42:09,574 --> 01:42:12,421
version which is not what our producers are talking about

1681
01:42:12,461 --> 01:42:15,127
but so this producers in a lot of procreative groups

1682
01:42:15,508 --> 01:42:18,796
i just recently noticed that this is the same case

1683
01:42:19,438 --> 01:42:22,708
that led to Kratom being banned in Tennessee, where I

1684
01:42:22,748 --> 01:42:26,145
sit at this very moment. The part this AI lawsuit

1685
01:42:26,205 --> 01:42:28,559
and the Tennessee ban both leave out is that the

1686
01:42:28,639 --> 01:42:35,146
kid. was Uhhhh... This is what the kids do. Maybe

1687
01:42:35,166 --> 01:42:37,884
it's a TikTok challenge. The kids want to see the

1688
01:42:37,965 --> 01:42:43,079
hat man, quote unquote, the hat. man. by taking insane

1689
01:42:43,180 --> 01:42:48,860
doses of Benadryl. an act that leads to hallucination. So

1690
01:42:48,900 --> 01:42:53,476
the implication here from our producers that it was the

1691
01:42:53,978 --> 01:42:58,172
overdosing on Benadryl that made the kid kill himself, not

1692
01:42:58,232 --> 01:43:02,199
the Kratom and not the Xanax. But man, it sure

1693
01:43:02,700 --> 01:43:05,887
did contribute to that law being passed. Covering the state

1694
01:43:05,927 --> 01:43:09,635
capitol now, Tennessee passes a full ban on what's often

1695
01:43:09,696 --> 01:43:13,865
referred to as gas station heroin after ongoing debate over

1696
01:43:13,905 --> 01:43:17,313
the effects of Kratom. Kratom is derived from a Southeast

1697
01:43:17,453 --> 01:43:20,119
Asian plant and supporters say when it's in its natural...

1698
01:43:20,099 --> 01:43:24,407
form kratom can help curb opioid addiction and manage pain.

1699
01:43:25,049 --> 01:43:28,055
So it makes total sense that we would ban that

1700
01:43:28,135 --> 01:43:31,361
plant because we can't get involved with the drug companies,

1701
01:43:31,421 --> 01:43:35,028
now can we? But Tennessee legislators sided with caution this

1702
01:43:35,109 --> 01:43:38,916
week, aligning with advocates who say kratom in any form

1703
01:43:39,076 --> 01:43:44,047
can lead to addiction. and even deadly overdoses. Tennessee now

1704
01:43:44,127 --> 01:43:48,538
joins eight other states in banning kratom entirely, even in

1705
01:43:48,619 --> 01:43:53,029
its natural form. And that's the problem. So... Banning the

1706
01:43:53,150 --> 01:43:55,248
natural plants. Well, you gotta read the end of the

1707
01:43:55,288 --> 01:43:58,886
guy's note. Well, that's all I had in mind. What

1708
01:43:59,108 --> 01:44:01,707
did you have at the end of his note? The

1709
01:44:01,727 --> 01:44:03,410
end of the note was he got a hold of

1710
01:44:03,490 --> 01:44:06,896
the toxicology report on the kid. I'm sorry. Yes, he

1711
01:44:06,936 --> 01:44:08,639
did. He got a hold of the toxicology report. Yeah,

1712
01:44:08,659 --> 01:44:10,943
well, read that. That's the best part. I don't have

1713
01:44:11,003 --> 01:44:14,349
that in my notes. Oh, okay. Well, I'll just tell

1714
01:44:14,369 --> 01:44:17,835
you what it says. Yeah, he had four times the...

1715
01:44:17,855 --> 01:44:21,845
Four times the lethal dose. Dose of Benadryl in his

1716
01:44:21,886 --> 01:44:25,823
system. Yeah. So I had almost everything except for the.

1717
01:44:26,371 --> 01:44:31,562
The punchline. Well, precisely. I hand back my clip of

1718
01:44:31,582 --> 01:44:34,828
the day. This bill addresses the growing public health and

1719
01:44:34,889 --> 01:44:40,019
safety concerns surrounding kratom, often marketed as a natural supplement.

1720
01:44:40,123 --> 01:44:43,529
But natural does not mean safe. The Kratom plant has

1721
01:44:43,569 --> 01:44:46,675
been used as an alternative to opioids, a way to

1722
01:44:46,755 --> 01:44:50,102
wean addicts off heroin, and as a natural way to

1723
01:44:50,142 --> 01:44:54,209
relieve pain. But in recent years, Kratom has been modified

1724
01:44:54,229 --> 01:44:59,519
into a stronger synthetic form known as 7-hydroxy or 7-OH.

1725
01:44:59,559 --> 01:45:02,730
often sold at gas stations and vape shops as a

1726
01:45:02,851 --> 01:45:07,989
supplement or extract. Experts say 7-OH is 13 more times

1727
01:45:08,110 --> 01:45:13,053
potent than morphine. Yeah, okay. So there's a synthetic version,

1728
01:45:13,134 --> 01:45:16,814
which obviously is a problem. But the plant itself, I

1729
01:45:16,854 --> 01:45:19,519
mean, I think that should be invested. Where is our...

1730
01:45:19,499 --> 01:45:23,500
This should be investigated. Because I've heard enough. That guy's

1731
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:27,031
got enough problems. I've heard nothing but positive things. Nothing

1732
01:45:27,051 --> 01:45:32,083
but positive things about Kratom. The plant, not the... vape

1733
01:45:32,124 --> 01:45:37,044
shop, gas station heroin or whatever they're calling it. Well,

1734
01:45:37,226 --> 01:45:41,981
I've heard nothing at all. 33. Clip Blitz. Clip Blitz.

1735
01:45:42,102 --> 01:45:44,841
All right. Clip Blitz. What are we doing? Okay, let's

1736
01:45:44,861 --> 01:45:50,034
start with voting rights and athletes. The NAACP is urging

1737
01:45:50,095 --> 01:45:53,423
black athletes who are being recruited by public universities and

1738
01:45:53,484 --> 01:45:57,053
states weakening the power of black voters to not commit

1739
01:45:57,113 --> 01:46:00,441
to going to those schools until those states... governments restore

1740
01:46:00,481 --> 01:46:04,129
fair congressional maps. The Civil Rights Group is targeting eight

1741
01:46:04,229 --> 01:46:07,556
states in the South where major college football and basketball

1742
01:46:07,596 --> 01:46:10,543
programs made up of mostly black players rake in big

1743
01:46:10,603 --> 01:46:14,411
money. The NAACP is also asking college athletes to elevate

1744
01:46:14,431 --> 01:46:17,177
the issue and call on leaders to speak out against

1745
01:46:17,217 --> 01:46:20,854
racial redistricting. It's also urging alumni, donors, and fans to

1746
01:46:20,954 --> 01:46:25,821
withhold financial support. Several Republican-led states are racing to redraw

1747
01:46:25,902 --> 01:46:29,967
congressional districts in an effort to flip seats, effectively diluting

1748
01:46:30,048 --> 01:46:33,533
black voting power. All right. Yeah, yeah, that's going to

1749
01:46:33,833 --> 01:46:38,019
work. Screw the black athletes. I'm sorry. Steve Hilton had.

1750
01:46:38,059 --> 01:46:44,034
Ah, Steve Hilton head in the clip blitz. What is

1751
01:46:44,075 --> 01:46:48,717
going on with the Clip Blitz? Steve Hilton. There's a

1752
01:46:48,958 --> 01:46:52,066
long lead-in to the Eclipse. The NAACP is urging black

1753
01:46:52,166 --> 01:46:54,913
athletes who are being recruited by public... No, that's not

1754
01:46:55,395 --> 01:46:58,230
Hilton. Where's Hilton head? Skip it. Go ahead and lift.

1755
01:46:58,250 --> 01:46:59,906
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Try it again. Hold

1756
01:46:59,986 --> 01:47:04,625
on. Don't move. Republican commentator Steve Hilton and former health

1757
01:47:04,645 --> 01:47:08,535
secretary Javier Becerra, a Democrat, continue to lead the primary

1758
01:47:08,616 --> 01:47:12,726
for California governor. KQED politics correspondent Guy Marzarati has more

1759
01:47:12,847 --> 01:47:15,473
on a new survey from the state Democratic Party. The

1760
01:47:15,533 --> 01:47:18,120
poll finds Hilton leading the pack with the. support of

1761
01:47:18,140 --> 01:47:22,048
22% of likely voters. Becerra is in second with 21%,

1762
01:47:22,869 --> 01:47:27,699
followed by investor Tom Steyer with 15%. 13% of voters

1763
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:32,068
remain undecided just two weeks before the June 2nd primary.

1764
01:47:32,449 --> 01:47:36,056
The survey could ease some Democrats' fears about two Republicans

1765
01:47:36,076 --> 01:47:39,839
advancing to November. Under the state's top two primary, it

1766
01:47:39,919 --> 01:47:43,592
finds Hilton as opens a comfortable lead over Riverside County

1767
01:47:43,652 --> 01:47:46,502
Sheriff Chad Bianco. We got to make it illegal. Make

1768
01:47:46,562 --> 01:47:50,415
it illegal. That can't happen. We can't have that happen.

1769
01:47:51,123 --> 01:47:54,764
Clip Blitz! Clip Blitz! Alright, Clip Blitz! Lyft driver used

1770
01:47:54,925 --> 01:47:57,319
AI photos to the index of father from Boca Verde.

1771
01:47:57,299 --> 01:48:01,367
Florida claiming a Lyft driver used AI photos to falsely

1772
01:48:01,447 --> 01:48:04,373
accuse his teen daughters of damaging his car, charging a

1773
01:48:04,393 --> 01:48:07,399
$75 fee. They sent the father photos, but at the

1774
01:48:07,459 --> 01:48:11,647
bottom right, the Gemini logo. Now, Gemini is Google's AI

1775
01:48:11,707 --> 01:48:15,495
assistant that can generate false images. Lyft has now apologized

1776
01:48:15,595 --> 01:48:18,751
and blocked the driver from their app. It's another No

1777
01:48:18,812 --> 01:48:23,068
Agenda. Let's go! Cliblitz. Was that it? That was a

1778
01:48:23,108 --> 01:48:28,981
good one. Elon Musk lawsuit. Hold on. Elon Musk lawsuit.

1779
01:48:29,001 --> 01:48:31,446
Yes. Welcome back. This just in tonight. A jury has

1780
01:48:31,506 --> 01:48:35,856
thrown out Elon Musk's massive lawsuit against OpenAI and Sam

1781
01:48:35,936 --> 01:48:39,105
Altman. A federal jury. found that Musk waited too long

1782
01:48:39,165 --> 01:48:42,656
to sue. He had accused Altman of illegally enriching himself

1783
01:48:42,777 --> 01:48:45,927
off the company that must help start with him. Musk

1784
01:48:45,987 --> 01:48:48,274
says he will appeal, saying the judge didn't rule on

1785
01:48:48,315 --> 01:48:50,964
the merits of that case. All right, now can I

1786
01:48:51,044 --> 01:48:54,223
play a couple of clips about AI stuff since you've

1787
01:48:54,283 --> 01:48:56,235
led us here with your cliplets or is there more

1788
01:48:56,275 --> 01:49:00,545
cliplets? There's a couple more. Ugh. Well, can we- Don't

1789
01:49:00,866 --> 01:49:02,750
give me that! Can we take- Your clip blitz is

1790
01:49:02,790 --> 01:49:04,294
like three- This one here, I want to play this

1791
01:49:04,434 --> 01:49:07,521
one because this is a sad one. Three clip blitzes.

1792
01:49:08,162 --> 01:49:11,530
Oh, okay. Sad one. Alright. It's another No Agenda. No

1793
01:49:12,051 --> 01:49:16,975
Agenda! All right. CBS Radio signs off. Yeah. Have you

1794
01:49:16,995 --> 01:49:20,064
heard this? Yep. Of course. Before there was television, long

1795
01:49:20,104 --> 01:49:25,014
before there were podcasts, CBS radio basically invented broadcast news.

1796
01:49:25,675 --> 01:49:29,102
In big cities and remote farmhouses, families would gather around

1797
01:49:29,142 --> 01:49:32,749
the radio to hear President Roosevelt deliver a fireside chat.

1798
01:49:33,170 --> 01:49:36,216
Now we've got Mondami on Twitch. Or Edward R. Murrow's

1799
01:49:36,256 --> 01:49:53,269
eyewitness accounts of the Blitz. Broadcast like that one brought

1800
01:49:53,309 --> 01:49:56,235
the sound of the world into people's living rooms. In

1801
01:49:56,255 --> 01:50:00,363
the process, CBS Radio made the world... and listeners' vision

1802
01:50:00,524 --> 01:50:05,053
a little broader. Generations of talented wordsmiths polished their craft

1803
01:50:05,113 --> 01:50:08,379
at CBS. Before Charles Kuralt went on the road and

1804
01:50:08,419 --> 01:50:11,605
Peggy Noonan penned speeches for presidents, they got their start

1805
01:50:11,686 --> 01:50:15,553
working overnights, pounding away at typewriters, painting vivid pictures for

1806
01:50:15,573 --> 01:50:19,120
the ear. CBS Radio is still carried on... some 700

1807
01:50:19,581 --> 01:50:23,329
stations. But fewer people are listening to the radio these

1808
01:50:23,389 --> 01:50:26,014
days. There are other ways to entertain yourself in the

1809
01:50:26,074 --> 01:50:28,359
car now, and young people have grown to expect more

1810
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:33,249
personalized programming from their smartphones. CBS's parent company was sold

1811
01:50:33,349 --> 01:50:36,896
to David Ellison's Skydance Media last year. The new owners

1812
01:50:36,956 --> 01:50:39,982
announced two months ago they were silencing the microphones and

1813
01:50:40,063 --> 01:50:43,691
laying off the radio staff. Christopher Cruz is set to

1814
01:50:43,731 --> 01:50:48,020
deliver the final CBS radio newscast just after 11.30 Eastern

1815
01:50:48,060 --> 01:50:52,750
time tonight. Well, in an interesting twist, there was a

1816
01:50:52,810 --> 01:50:59,618
prophecy about this happening. Back in 1990. And the prophecy

1817
01:50:59,698 --> 01:51:02,447
is this, because if you listen, how does this start

1818
01:51:02,547 --> 01:51:05,035
off? This starts off by them saying, Before there was

1819
01:51:05,095 --> 01:51:10,739
television, long before there were podcasts. Right? So... Our first

1820
01:51:10,821 --> 01:51:14,394
house, the first house I bought. in New Jersey in

1821
01:51:14,414 --> 01:51:19,637
1990 I bought from Dallas Townsend. Does that name ring

1822
01:51:19,678 --> 01:51:22,771
a bell to you? It sounds familiar, but I can't

1823
01:51:23,252 --> 01:51:29,163
place it at the moment. He was the quintessential CBS

1824
01:51:29,264 --> 01:51:32,390
radio news guy. And when we bought the house, there

1825
01:51:32,430 --> 01:51:36,919
was a big picture of Walter Cronkite above the fireplace.

1826
01:51:37,435 --> 01:51:41,625
out And so in an odd sort of way, that

1827
01:51:41,726 --> 01:51:46,299
was the passing of the torch. 10 years before podcasting

1828
01:51:46,380 --> 01:51:50,371
came to be. So that was, in fact, a prophecy.

1829
01:51:51,047 --> 01:51:54,500
How's it a prophecy? Well, because I'm making it into

1830
01:51:54,641 --> 01:51:58,823
one. Hello, okay. Hello. I'm just making it up as

1831
01:51:58,926 --> 01:52:02,086
I go along, John. Yeah, you're just like the MS

1832
01:52:02,207 --> 01:52:05,080
Now people. Okay, I'm going to cut you off. If

1833
01:52:05,100 --> 01:52:07,410
you talk to me like that, you might as well

1834
01:52:07,430 --> 01:52:14,051
just say I'm a horrible person. Alright, Clip Blitz, come

1835
01:52:14,112 --> 01:52:16,856
on, Clip Blitz. It's another No Agenda. Okay, well the

1836
01:52:16,896 --> 01:52:19,471
last... Do you want to play one more, the Minnesota?

1837
01:52:19,531 --> 01:52:22,155
I don't really, but yeah, I'll do it. Well, you

1838
01:52:22,195 --> 01:52:24,518
don't have to. No, now we've announced it. We did

1839
01:52:24,558 --> 01:52:29,506
a clipless jingle. Well, then play this Minnesota. Which one

1840
01:52:29,566 --> 01:52:32,010
is it? It doesn't say. I don't have a Minnesota.

1841
01:52:32,030 --> 01:52:37,198
Classic cars. Classic cars. Minnesota lawmakers want to ground your

1842
01:52:37,258 --> 01:52:40,304
classic. car five days a week. Yeah, I saw this.

1843
01:52:40,645 --> 01:52:44,192
A new Minnesota bill could ban most weekday and nighttime

1844
01:52:44,252 --> 01:52:47,298
driving for classic cars. Now, this is kind of wild.

1845
01:52:47,939 --> 01:52:50,143
Of course, we enjoy seeing classic cars on the road.

1846
01:52:50,664 --> 01:52:52,648
Brings a smile to everyone's face, you'd think, but that

1847
01:52:52,708 --> 01:52:54,933
experience might be about to become even rarer in Minnesota

1848
01:52:54,993 --> 01:52:58,761
because the new law, if passed, would limit classic... cars

1849
01:52:58,821 --> 01:53:03,438
to driving only on weekends or at special events well

1850
01:53:03,639 --> 01:53:06,088
okay i saw this story and someone sent it to

1851
01:53:06,128 --> 01:53:09,300
me it was like this is they're getting classic cars

1852
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:12,175
off the road hey That's only because these people want

1853
01:53:12,317 --> 01:53:17,519
cheap registration. If you register your car as a car,

1854
01:53:17,623 --> 01:53:20,909
You can drive it whenever you want. Yeah, it's true.

1855
01:53:20,989 --> 01:53:24,155
It's kind of misleading. It's kind of misleading. Very misleading.

1856
01:53:24,175 --> 01:53:26,298
But at the same time, what is the point? I

1857
01:53:26,359 --> 01:53:30,126
mean, but this is now misleading, maybe. But is this

1858
01:53:30,186 --> 01:53:34,534
a foreboding? Is this a prophecy, perhaps, that's going to

1859
01:53:34,754 --> 01:53:37,219
start to move the older cars out because they won't

1860
01:53:37,279 --> 01:53:40,135
have... have computers that can track you? Ah, through the

1861
01:53:40,195 --> 01:53:43,615
data centers and the flock cameras and the license plate

1862
01:53:43,635 --> 01:53:51,704
readers? Hmm. Absolutely. Coincidence? I think not. I shall wind

1863
01:53:51,744 --> 01:53:54,540
us up here with a few clips from CNBC. I

1864
01:53:54,581 --> 01:54:00,087
like CNBC because they kind of can't lie. Well, they

1865
01:54:00,127 --> 01:54:04,963
can. They can, but... It doesn't go over with the

1866
01:54:05,063 --> 01:54:07,150
investors. It doesn't go over well with their audience at

1867
01:54:07,210 --> 01:54:11,014
all, however small it is. This is about the AI

1868
01:54:11,195 --> 01:54:15,470
IPOs. And we're now starting to get some information, starting

1869
01:54:15,571 --> 01:54:21,580
off with SpaceX. Texas IPO. And I thought it was

1870
01:54:21,620 --> 01:54:28,137
a relatively intelligent conversation about getting out first, who's making

1871
01:54:28,217 --> 01:54:31,425
money, who's doing what. And for those of you who

1872
01:54:31,465 --> 01:54:34,372
get value from the show by hearing us talk about

1873
01:54:34,432 --> 01:54:36,818
things, maybe this is of value to you. Last night,

1874
01:54:36,838 --> 01:54:38,879
though. Around dinner time here in the Bay Area, the

1875
01:54:38,979 --> 01:54:47,161
SpaceX Prospectus dropped. Dropped? Drop? Pick it up. I remember

1876
01:54:47,241 --> 01:54:50,433
when we went public in 96. Well, it looks like

1877
01:54:50,493 --> 01:54:54,569
Think New Ideas have filed their S1 document. Now it's

1878
01:54:54,629 --> 01:54:58,462
just looks like it dropped. though around dinner time here

1879
01:54:58,502 --> 01:55:02,169
in the bay area the spacex prospectus dropped and it

1880
01:55:02,229 --> 01:55:06,377
was a 308 page document that is part rocket company

1881
01:55:06,458 --> 01:55:10,626
part satellite empire part frontier ai lab all wrapped in

1882
01:55:10,666 --> 01:55:14,073
a controlled company structure with elon musk holding majority of

1883
01:55:14,093 --> 01:55:16,518
the board now the ai segment that is the part

1884
01:55:16,558 --> 01:55:18,822
that i want to dig in to today because essentially

1885
01:55:18,842 --> 01:55:23,492
all paths in that S1 lead back to AI. You're

1886
01:55:23,692 --> 01:55:27,740
right. This lady could be replaced by an AI agent

1887
01:55:28,181 --> 01:55:31,047
going, let's do a deep dive. The financials have three

1888
01:55:31,087 --> 01:55:34,854
main sections, space, connectivity, and AI. The AI segment, it

1889
01:55:34,914 --> 01:55:38,782
did $3.2 billion in revenue last year. on 6.4 billion

1890
01:55:38,802 --> 01:55:42,950
of losses. Now, the eye-popping number, though, that was CapEx,

1891
01:55:42,970 --> 01:55:45,916
as it often is these days. Nearly $13 billion on

1892
01:55:45,956 --> 01:55:49,423
AI infrastructure, which is four times the revenue it is

1893
01:55:49,543 --> 01:55:53,070
currently bringing in. So if you are a bear, the

1894
01:55:53,150 --> 01:55:55,495
math here in this last one, it's pretty straightforward. If

1895
01:55:55,535 --> 01:55:59,583
it's a $2 trillion valuation... has been reported and speculated

1896
01:55:59,923 --> 01:56:02,288
on 18 billion dollars in total revenue last year you're

1897
01:56:02,308 --> 01:56:05,655
looking at more than 100 times sales for contacts nvidia

1898
01:56:05,695 --> 01:56:08,200
trades at around 23 times palantir one of the most

1899
01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:11,406
stretched names in the public market around 88 so spacex

1900
01:56:11,747 --> 01:56:15,193
would be coming in higher than either of them and

1901
01:56:15,254 --> 01:56:18,601
it's actually not actually profitable it is losing money Here's

1902
01:56:18,621 --> 01:56:20,707
the other thing, though. SpaceX has never been priced on

1903
01:56:20,747 --> 01:56:23,575
traditional measures, and that is unlikely to change right now.

1904
01:56:23,896 --> 01:56:26,142
This is a growth bet on Elon Musk full stop.

1905
01:56:26,182 --> 01:56:28,729
And the same investors who bought SpaceX... Did she say

1906
01:56:28,790 --> 01:56:31,830
full stop in the middle of a sentence? yes but

1907
01:56:31,850 --> 01:56:35,407
she never stopped no that's bad form i agree private

1908
01:56:35,447 --> 01:56:38,832
rounds 400 500 600 billion dollars They did it because

1909
01:56:38,872 --> 01:56:41,456
of him. The retail demand on day one, likely going

1910
01:56:41,476 --> 01:56:44,821
to be enormous. And whatever you think of Musk's politics

1911
01:56:44,901 --> 01:56:47,024
or pay package, he has done something that no one

1912
01:56:47,064 --> 01:56:51,591
else has, built category-defining companies not once or twice, three

1913
01:56:51,631 --> 01:56:55,496
times. So that bet on SpaceX, it also matters beyond

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01:56:55,577 --> 01:56:59,911
this IPO itself because... OpenAI is reportedly planning a confidential

1915
01:56:59,951 --> 01:57:02,680
filing as soon as this week. Anthropic may not be

1916
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:06,271
far behind. Players in the infrastructure layer underneath, all of

1917
01:57:06,311 --> 01:57:08,017
them are watching Q and trying to figure out their

1918
01:57:08,137 --> 01:57:13,179
own windows. What was the bell for? I just felt

1919
01:57:13,219 --> 01:57:17,719
like that bell was needed. So, in this... Anthropic's not...

1920
01:57:17,727 --> 01:57:20,411
far behind in this follow all three of these things

1921
01:57:20,511 --> 01:57:22,555
in this follow-up clip they're going to give you some

1922
01:57:22,635 --> 01:57:25,780
insight about the differences between the three i thought it

1923
01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:28,965
was reasonably good i'm not sure it matters too much

1924
01:57:29,466 --> 01:57:33,092
uh who goes first okay the no agenda show disagrees

1925
01:57:33,132 --> 01:57:35,816
whoever goes first is gonna is gonna be the big

1926
01:57:35,896 --> 01:57:39,102
winner everyone else we don't think that's Every so often

1927
01:57:39,262 --> 01:57:41,527
something like this happens. The first one goes and they

1928
01:57:41,567 --> 01:57:43,611
did the big winner. Then the next one goes and

1929
01:57:43,651 --> 01:57:47,238
then something screwy happens and then it folds and the

1930
01:57:47,298 --> 01:57:50,645
third one gets nothing. I'm not sure it matters too

1931
01:57:50,705 --> 01:57:54,974
much who goes first. It does matter. It does. I

1932
01:57:55,014 --> 01:57:59,683
think they're just so different in the model. Obviously, SpaceX

1933
01:58:00,004 --> 01:58:03,471
is really a bet on Elon and his vision. OpenAI,

1934
01:58:03,651 --> 01:58:06,376
I think, is really a bet on the consumerization of

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01:58:06,436 --> 01:58:09,643
AI. And I know OpenAI recently has started to move

1936
01:58:10,144 --> 01:58:12,809
away from the consumer model and more to enterprise. But

1937
01:58:12,829 --> 01:58:16,937
their DNA has been a consumer-first AI company. Anthropic, from

1938
01:58:16,977 --> 01:58:20,324
the beginning, was... hey we're an enterprise solution and so

1939
01:58:20,344 --> 01:58:22,268
i think one of the things to think about is

1940
01:58:22,328 --> 01:58:25,554
where do investors believe the the future at least in

1941
01:58:25,574 --> 01:58:27,538
the near term near to medium term right the next

1942
01:58:27,578 --> 01:58:30,264
two to five years where should they place their chips

1943
01:58:30,284 --> 01:58:31,787
they could place on both but if you have to

1944
01:58:31,827 --> 01:58:34,893
pick one do you pick on ai and consumers or

1945
01:58:34,913 --> 01:58:37,539
do you pick on ai uh in the enterprise and

1946
01:58:37,579 --> 01:58:39,663
that's In the private market, that was the trade for

1947
01:58:39,723 --> 01:58:42,829
venture. The venture capitalists that believed in AI would be

1948
01:58:42,850 --> 01:58:45,675
a consumer application first before anything else, bet on open

1949
01:58:45,695 --> 01:58:47,319
AI. And the ones that believed it was the enterprise,

1950
01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:50,605
bet on entropic. And I think now retail and the

1951
01:58:50,645 --> 01:58:52,750
rest of us will get to make that choice. I'm

1952
01:58:52,790 --> 01:58:55,135
going to give you my opinion. You just say blah,

1953
01:58:55,155 --> 01:58:57,622
blah, blah. Well, you should have cut him short. then

1954
01:58:57,683 --> 01:59:00,107
you should give your opinion instead of listening to that.

1955
01:59:00,559 --> 01:59:05,460
What's your opinion? I don't have an opinion. Exactly. As

1956
01:59:05,621 --> 01:59:09,138
crazy as he seems, I think Elon Musk is actually

1957
01:59:09,218 --> 01:59:12,092
doing the smartest thing. It may never come to be

1958
01:59:12,132 --> 01:59:15,555
his data centers in space. I don't know. But he's

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01:59:15,616 --> 01:59:20,135
selling compute. It's anthropic. I think he's giving up on

1960
01:59:20,176 --> 01:59:24,713
the LLM business and Grok will just be whatever it

1961
01:59:24,874 --> 01:59:26,821
is for people to go, "Hey, Grok, take your shirt

1962
01:59:26,922 --> 01:59:30,711
off." and uh hey grok remove the loser or hey

1963
01:59:30,731 --> 01:59:33,308
grok remove the remove the jew they do this all

1964
01:59:33,348 --> 01:59:39,933
the time You've seen that. Yahoo. It's funny though. It's

1965
01:59:39,973 --> 01:59:44,742
so horrible. I think, I think Musk has the right

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01:59:44,822 --> 01:59:48,449
idea. Be in the, in the cheapest infrastructure business. Once

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01:59:48,469 --> 01:59:51,455
you get those things up in space using the sun.

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01:59:51,811 --> 01:59:54,778
And I don't know about anthropic and open AI. But

1969
01:59:54,798 --> 01:59:57,735
then my final clip will be from Jeff Bezos. It

1970
01:59:57,775 --> 02:00:01,343
was a very different take on AI taking your job

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02:00:01,403 --> 02:00:04,149
away. So there are so many smart people and they

1972
02:00:04,269 --> 02:00:06,855
are smart and they are saying, oh my God, you

1973
02:00:06,875 --> 02:00:10,483
know, there's going to be no more radiologists because, you

1974
02:00:10,503 --> 02:00:14,111
know, AI can read x-rays better than a radiologist can.

1975
02:00:14,131 --> 02:00:16,195
And there are going to be no more software engineers

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02:00:16,255 --> 02:00:19,883
because AI can program better than... software engineer again. These

1977
02:00:19,943 --> 02:00:23,470
people are wrong. So what's really going to happen is

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02:00:23,490 --> 02:00:25,595
that it's going to elevate all of these people and

1979
02:00:25,635 --> 02:00:28,380
there's going to, it's like, it's like you've been digging,

1980
02:00:28,460 --> 02:00:31,046
let's say you're a software engineer. Right. What it's, the,

1981
02:00:31,106 --> 02:00:34,973
the analogy I can give you is you've been digging

1982
02:00:35,294 --> 02:00:39,586
out a basement for your house. with a shovel and

1983
02:00:39,627 --> 02:00:44,442
somebody was about to hand you a bulldozer. You should

1984
02:00:44,543 --> 02:00:47,431
be so happy if you're digging the basement to your

1985
02:00:47,491 --> 02:00:50,439
house and somebody says, hey, how about this? I have

1986
02:00:50,459 --> 02:00:53,467
a tool here that's going to... And what's really going

1987
02:00:53,487 --> 02:00:55,914
to happen is we're going to have so much productivity

1988
02:00:55,974 --> 02:01:01,195
in our economy. For example, this is just one effect.

1989
02:01:01,675 --> 02:01:06,402
A lot of people who have two earner income households,

1990
02:01:06,743 --> 02:01:08,606
one of the people is going to drop out of

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02:01:08,646 --> 02:01:10,869
the workforce. That's why we're going to have a labor

1992
02:01:10,949 --> 02:01:15,456
shortage. Because of the productivity gains, you're going to be

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02:01:15,496 --> 02:01:20,105
able to afford things. predict will actually have deflation of

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02:01:20,185 --> 02:01:25,038
certain core. Assuming we let this technology play out and

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02:01:25,058 --> 02:01:30,428
don't hamstring it with regulation too early. We will actually

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02:01:30,448 --> 02:01:33,278
have you know, everything will get your food will get

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02:01:33,338 --> 02:01:38,770
cheaper. Whoa Now that's a different take I like it.

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02:01:38,951 --> 02:01:40,978
I like it too. I think he's right. I'm with

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02:01:41,019 --> 02:01:44,151
you on that. I'm surprised by that because you hated

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02:01:44,211 --> 02:01:49,272
this AI thing. Well, I hated the chat part of

2001
02:01:49,352 --> 02:01:52,281
it. Yes, I thought that was stupid. I've been using

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02:01:52,401 --> 02:01:55,070
AI for all kinds of things. Coding. That's true. You're

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02:01:55,130 --> 02:01:58,549
like an acolyte. I don't know. I don't know what

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02:01:58,570 --> 02:02:01,889
that means. That figures. But if it's a prophecy. But

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02:02:01,909 --> 02:02:04,323
you're one of them. But I want to wear that

2006
02:02:04,363 --> 02:02:07,906
mantle. And I also want to thank you for your

2007
02:02:07,966 --> 02:02:09,571
courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who

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02:02:09,591 --> 02:02:11,958
put the C in cowabunga. Say hello to my friend

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02:02:12,018 --> 02:02:13,422
on the other end, the one and the only, Mr.

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02:02:13,522 --> 02:02:18,219
John C. Yeah, well in the morning you and Ms.

2011
02:02:18,199 --> 02:02:21,228
I think K is cowabunga spelled with a K. I'm

2012
02:02:21,268 --> 02:02:27,186
John. No, it's not. It's definitely spelled with a C.

2013
02:02:27,347 --> 02:02:29,995
Let me count the trolls for a second. Let me

2014
02:02:30,015 --> 02:02:35,523
see. 1602 on a Memorial Day weekend. That's not too

2015
02:02:35,564 --> 02:02:38,848
bad. Oh, good. Yeah, it's good. Trolls are listening. No

2016
02:02:38,868 --> 02:02:42,854
Agenda Nation is tuning in through NoAgendaStream.com or one of

2017
02:02:42,874 --> 02:02:46,620
the many modern podcast apps which allow you to not

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only get your podcast that you want within 60, I'm

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sorry, 90 seconds, 60 but 90 seconds max of when

2020
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we publish it, which is a big deal compared to

2021
02:02:55,915 --> 02:02:58,432
the legacy apps, but also when we go live. And

2022
02:02:58,512 --> 02:03:00,878
many of the No Agenda stream and No Agenda Nation

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02:03:00,919 --> 02:03:04,509
shows, you get a bat signal, you tap on it,

2024
02:03:04,529 --> 02:03:06,113
boom, you're in the app. In the app where you

2025
02:03:06,193 --> 02:03:08,801
used to get on-demand podcasts, the ones that downloaded, now

2026
02:03:08,821 --> 02:03:12,953
you're getting the live stream. It's a beautiful thing. Moving

2027
02:03:13,013 --> 02:03:16,169
up on, that'll be 19 years in October of our

2028
02:03:17,756 --> 02:03:20,862
podcast. We've been doing it value for value all of

2029
02:03:20,882 --> 02:03:24,781
these years, and it's a very simple model. Whenever you

2030
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feel you got value out of this podcast, many of

2031
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you have told me you do, then just send us

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whatever that's worth to you right back to us at

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noagendadonations.com. Time, talent, treasure. We appreciate the time and talent.

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Many people help us. so many ways, giving us extra

2035
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peanuts on the plane. Thank you, Audra. Giving us boots

2036
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on the ground on Kratom. We have a lot. In

2037
02:03:47,624 --> 02:03:50,612
fact, if there's a secret sauce of the No Agenda

2038
02:03:50,652 --> 02:03:54,897
show, it's the producers. There is always someone somewhere who

2039
02:03:54,998 --> 02:03:57,713
works in the field, is an expert, because they just

2040
02:03:57,753 --> 02:04:00,039
happen to do that job. And when you let us

2041
02:04:00,099 --> 02:04:03,010
know, that's how we make everything much better for the

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02:04:03,070 --> 02:04:06,323
program. The producers, because we don't have listeners, the producers

2043
02:04:06,684 --> 02:04:09,767
really are what make it all fly. In addition to

2044
02:04:09,808 --> 02:04:12,789
that, we have artists. Well, we used to have artists.

2045
02:04:12,810 --> 02:04:13,978
I was talking about this the other day at the

2046
02:04:14,039 --> 02:04:16,407
dinner table. So we used to have a lot of

2047
02:04:16,427 --> 02:04:19,419
artists. Now we have prompters. The artists are all gone.

2048
02:04:20,387 --> 02:04:23,188
I don't think we've had a... Well, Nestworks, I think,

2049
02:04:23,329 --> 02:04:27,666
does kind of some art still. Blue Acorn. But have

2050
02:04:27,706 --> 02:04:29,833
we had any of the old guards? Nick the Rat

2051
02:04:29,873 --> 02:04:33,645
is trying some AI stuff, but I don't know. We

2052
02:04:33,986 --> 02:04:40,248
haven't quite gotten to that Bezos. Promise, yes. that is

2053
02:04:40,370 --> 02:04:43,318
only going to be better for them. How do you

2054
02:04:43,339 --> 02:04:48,697
feel? I like the art we get. It's always been

2055
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:54,341
sketchy. It's true. Well, so what Nessworks is, and Nessworks

2056
02:04:54,441 --> 02:04:57,574
was the art that we chose for episode 1870 titled

2057
02:04:57,675 --> 02:05:01,235
VBS. Took a while to get that up on noagendashow.net,

2058
02:05:01,255 --> 02:05:03,409
but we finally got that figured out. It was there,

2059
02:05:03,470 --> 02:05:06,906
but it was the wrong number. Void Zero and I

2060
02:05:06,926 --> 02:05:09,116
are going to try and make that less of a

2061
02:05:09,197 --> 02:05:13,394
problem when things go wrong. But Neswork created this. I

2062
02:05:13,495 --> 02:05:17,353
think he did more of this by hand than by

2063
02:05:17,453 --> 02:05:21,993
AI. What do you think? This flamingo. Well, it had

2064
02:05:22,033 --> 02:05:26,482
a different look for sure. It's hard to say. I

2065
02:05:26,783 --> 02:05:29,930
mean, it could have been all AI. Or it could

2066
02:05:29,970 --> 02:05:32,116
have been, you know, a cut-and-paste job. I don't know.

2067
02:05:33,579 --> 02:05:36,466
Maybe he can tell us. Yes, please, Nestworks, let us

2068
02:05:36,526 --> 02:05:40,646
know. Looking at Noogen, our Artgenerator.com, that's where Sir Paul

2069
02:05:40,666 --> 02:05:42,734
Couture spends a lot of his time making sure that

2070
02:05:42,774 --> 02:05:45,444
we aren't spammed and we don't have, I don't know,

2071
02:05:45,725 --> 02:05:51,389
like inappropriate art flowing into the art generator. Which is

2072
02:05:52,313 --> 02:05:54,421
very obvious for people who like to do that kind

2073
02:05:54,441 --> 02:05:56,429
of stuff. And it is Memorial Day weekend, so I

2074
02:05:56,469 --> 02:05:59,470
would recommend that the artists give us Memorial Day. The

2075
02:05:59,510 --> 02:06:04,660
themed art. I'm with you on that. Not Cuba. Did

2076
02:06:04,680 --> 02:06:08,618
we even talk about Rubio and Cubio? Cubio! There you

2077
02:06:08,638 --> 02:06:11,832
go, Cubio. Yeah, you played a bunch of stuff. Did

2078
02:06:11,912 --> 02:06:15,215
I? I don't remember. Not on Q-Bub, it's just a

2079
02:06:15,235 --> 02:06:19,119
bit Rubio. Yeah. Looking at the artwork that we received.

2080
02:06:19,099 --> 02:06:23,634
Eve. We had some screw lube art that babes are

2081
02:06:23,715 --> 02:06:27,006
overrated. You use the no agenda podcasting vacation school for

2082
02:06:27,026 --> 02:06:29,807
the newsletter. That was nice. Oh yeah, and there was

2083
02:06:29,847 --> 02:06:32,982
babes, just lots of babes. Too many babes. We're not

2084
02:06:33,284 --> 02:06:36,577
gonna choose babes all the time. And it's not so

2085
02:06:36,657 --> 02:06:41,286
funny to have women falling down manhole covers. or manholes

2086
02:06:41,367 --> 02:06:45,808
in New York, we found that kind of gruesome. Uh...

2087
02:06:46,675 --> 02:06:50,682
manhole because the lady died. It wasn't that nice. She

2088
02:06:50,745 --> 02:06:54,222
died? Who fell down the manhole, yeah. Oh, I didn't

2089
02:06:54,282 --> 02:06:56,799
know that. Yeah, she burned up. It was scalding hot.

2090
02:06:56,839 --> 02:06:59,819
It was a bad, very, very bad day for her.

2091
02:07:00,467 --> 02:07:03,376
No, I don't think there was anything else we really

2092
02:07:03,416 --> 02:07:05,963
liked. Was there anything that you recall that we discussed?

2093
02:07:05,983 --> 02:07:07,768
No, the one I liked was the one we picked.

2094
02:07:08,029 --> 02:07:10,456
Yeah, that was it. It was very, I would say

2095
02:07:10,496 --> 02:07:15,996
the selection was paltry. Yes. Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can

2096
02:07:16,076 --> 02:07:19,397
upload your art. Everybody can participate. We appreciate when you

2097
02:07:19,437 --> 02:07:22,876
do. And thank you very much for your ultimate courage

2098
02:07:23,118 --> 02:07:25,612
of supporting the best podcasts in the universe. Now we

2099
02:07:25,672 --> 02:07:30,534
have our... And treasure supporters who go to noagentadonations.com whenever

2100
02:07:30,574 --> 02:07:32,559
they feel the urge, like, oh, I'm going to support

2101
02:07:32,599 --> 02:07:35,126
these guys. I'm going to send them something. Whatever the

2102
02:07:35,186 --> 02:07:37,051
value, we can't look in your pocketbook. We don't know

2103
02:07:37,092 --> 02:07:39,919
what's valuable to you. $5 could be very valuable. to

2104
02:07:39,979 --> 02:07:43,186
you and it's just as appreciated as $5,000 which may

2105
02:07:43,226 --> 02:07:45,631
mean nothing to someone else. And it all kind of

2106
02:07:45,671 --> 02:07:48,256
evens out in the end, we've noticed. So value for

2107
02:07:48,316 --> 02:07:50,801
value is a way of living. It is the international

2108
02:07:50,861 --> 02:07:55,290
lifestyle and we've been moving along with that for, as

2109
02:07:55,350 --> 02:07:58,436
I said, over 18 years. Everyone who comes in and

2110
02:07:58,516 --> 02:07:59,879
is fortunate enough to be able to support us. $200

2111
02:08:00,320 --> 02:08:04,449
or more. Not only do we guaranteed read your note,

2112
02:08:04,469 --> 02:08:06,974
but we'll also give you an associate executive producer title,

2113
02:08:06,994 --> 02:08:10,902
which is valid wherever Hollywood credits are recognized. $300 or

2114
02:08:11,203 --> 02:08:14,109
more. That's when you become an executive producer. We read

2115
02:08:14,149 --> 02:08:16,874
your note and we still have that promotion open for

2116
02:08:16,954 --> 02:08:20,108
the Insta Knight, the Red Knight. Order of the Heart,

2117
02:08:20,169 --> 02:08:23,153
which gets you the coveted No Agenda Knight or Dame

2118
02:08:23,213 --> 02:08:27,240
ring, along with a very, very fancy pin, which will

2119
02:08:27,300 --> 02:08:30,585
show you are different than everybody else. $50 and above,

2120
02:08:30,605 --> 02:08:33,009
we thank everybody. We start now with our executive producers.

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02:08:33,370 --> 02:08:37,396
Christian Sutton Jensen is in Clovis, New Mexico, comes in

2122
02:08:37,436 --> 02:08:43,591
with $1,000 and... includes It included the fees. We appreciate

2123
02:08:43,631 --> 02:08:47,065
that. and says it's time to become a red knight

2124
02:08:47,407 --> 02:08:51,022
so it's one thousand dollars one thousand thirty dollars and

2125
02:08:51,062 --> 02:08:56,408
sixty cents that's what that uh 26. 26, I'm sorry.

2126
02:08:57,787 --> 02:09:00,663
And Christian says, to become a red knight. I need

2127
02:09:00,703 --> 02:09:04,211
the biggest dose of health karma you're legally allowed to

2128
02:09:04,271 --> 02:09:08,882
give. Well, we can determine that, no problem. We have

2129
02:09:08,923 --> 02:09:11,308
a governor on it, but we can take it off.

2130
02:09:11,489 --> 02:09:14,877
We're unscrewing that thing. One month ago, my aunt was

2131
02:09:14,957 --> 02:09:19,926
hospitalized with bacterial meningitis. She's been awaiting a heart surgery

2132
02:09:20,046 --> 02:09:22,631
of her own after weeks of fighting infections and other

2133
02:09:22,731 --> 02:09:26,278
horrible things. Things are stabilizing but not improving. I think

2134
02:09:26,338 --> 02:09:29,083
a red knighthood is the appropriate move at this time.

2135
02:09:29,644 --> 02:09:31,607
I've struggled a long time with my faith. I don't

2136
02:09:31,647 --> 02:09:33,370
know if it's appropriate or not, but I asked my

2137
02:09:33,450 --> 02:09:36,195
fellow producers to keep my aunt in their prayers. She

2138
02:09:36,276 --> 02:09:39,221
is a beautiful and joyful woman. and God knows her

2139
02:09:39,281 --> 02:09:42,147
family needs her in their lives. On a lighter note,

2140
02:09:42,648 --> 02:09:45,153
I would like to be knighted as Sir Yes Sir

2141
02:09:45,393 --> 02:09:47,618
of the You Know Where, and he winds up with

2142
02:09:47,658 --> 02:09:50,023
thank you for your courage. So we're going to do

2143
02:09:50,423 --> 02:09:53,369
some extra super stuff for you and for your aunt.

2144
02:09:53,389 --> 02:10:07,970
Here we go. You've got karma. Prayers. go. Vincent James

2145
02:10:08,030 --> 02:10:13,345
in Madison, Alabama, 103026. No note. He's going to have

2146
02:10:13,386 --> 02:10:15,211
to send something in so we can hear what he

2147
02:10:15,271 --> 02:10:17,919
has to say. He will be a red knight today.

2148
02:10:18,119 --> 02:10:20,012
But since he's got no note, we'll give him a

2149
02:10:20,052 --> 02:10:27,140
double up karma to stand by. You've got... Karma. On

2150
02:10:27,181 --> 02:10:31,517
to Rio Rancho, New Mexico. $1,000. Caddy Bones comes in.

2151
02:10:32,200 --> 02:10:35,432
It's a switcheroo for Jim, I might add. Caddy Bones

2152
02:10:35,492 --> 02:10:36,597
says, Dear Adam and John, my husband and I have

2153
02:10:36,617 --> 02:10:38,006
been together for a long time. Jim and I have

2154
02:10:38,027 --> 02:10:42,350
been listeners since 2014. That's a... 12 years, I'd say.

2155
02:10:42,831 --> 02:10:45,316
I unfortunately lost him at the end of 2023 to

2156
02:10:45,576 --> 02:10:49,424
a fall. Oh, man. My life is never and will

2157
02:10:49,464 --> 02:10:51,809
never be the same without him. We look forward to

2158
02:10:51,869 --> 02:10:54,714
our No Agenda nights twice a week on Sundays. We

2159
02:10:54,754 --> 02:10:57,540
learn so much from your show, especially during COVID. Thank

2160
02:10:57,560 --> 02:11:00,325
you, she says. I could fill pages with examples of

2161
02:11:00,385 --> 02:11:03,472
what a wonderful husband and best friend he was, but

2162
02:11:03,572 --> 02:11:06,177
nobody has that much time. So I'll just say that

2163
02:11:06,217 --> 02:11:08,441
in all of our years together, we never had a

2164
02:11:08,522 --> 02:11:10,967
fight. I've been meaning to write in and make him

2165
02:11:11,047 --> 02:11:12,790
a knight. However, I never felt like it was the

2166
02:11:12,850 --> 02:11:15,375
right moment. It always made me sad thinking about the

2167
02:11:15,435 --> 02:11:17,896
fact that he would be a posthumous knight. But once

2168
02:11:17,956 --> 02:11:19,782
I heard about the Order of the Heart, I knew

2169
02:11:19,822 --> 02:11:21,988
I had to make him a red knight, something special.

2170
02:11:22,510 --> 02:11:25,177
I would love it if you could de-douche him posthumously.

2171
02:11:25,218 --> 02:11:30,844
Well, of course you can. You've been de-douched. There are

2172
02:11:30,865 --> 02:11:33,259
a couple of jingles that he really liked, Climate Gate

2173
02:11:33,339 --> 02:11:35,050
and Fear is Freedom, and I would love it if

2174
02:11:35,090 --> 02:11:37,180
you played them in honor of him. For his night

2175
02:11:37,200 --> 02:11:39,966
name, I would love it to be Sir J. Bones,

2176
02:11:40,086 --> 02:11:42,351
a nickname of mine for him. Thank you. I'm going

2177
02:11:42,371 --> 02:11:45,216
to send a letter and donate soon so I can

2178
02:11:45,236 --> 02:11:47,862
be his dame. Thank you both for keeping me sane,

2179
02:11:48,102 --> 02:11:50,587
not just during that time that he was here with

2180
02:11:50,627 --> 02:11:53,272
me, but since then as well. I tune into every

2181
02:11:53,332 --> 02:11:55,517
show and try to imagine him next to me, listening

2182
02:11:55,577 --> 02:11:58,164
and laughing. I'm sure he's up. listening and laughing and

2183
02:11:58,245 --> 02:12:00,773
watching you. Big thank you to you both and to

2184
02:12:00,833 --> 02:12:02,659
Noage and the Nation for helping to keep us all

2185
02:12:02,720 --> 02:12:06,974
sane during this insane time. Sincerely, J. Bones' loving wife,

2186
02:12:07,415 --> 02:12:11,580
Caddy Bones. To the gate, to the gate, to the

2187
02:12:11,620 --> 02:12:38,529
climate gate. you you *Dramatic music* Classic. Classic, classic, classic.

2188
02:12:38,549 --> 02:12:43,631
Onward with Aaron and Lopez in Santa Rosa, California, 1000.

2189
02:12:44,275 --> 02:12:47,629
And he sent a note in, a physical note. Hello,

2190
02:12:47,850 --> 02:12:50,078
John and Adam. I'm a first-time donor. I couldn't pass

2191
02:12:50,138 --> 02:12:51,644
up the chance to become a Red Knight on my

2192
02:12:51,684 --> 02:12:54,535
first donation. I have been listening to the show since

2193
02:12:54,655 --> 02:12:57,792
COVID. and felt the need to return the value in

2194
02:12:57,852 --> 02:13:02,568
these trying times. I'm entering my final year of college.

2195
02:13:02,951 --> 02:13:07,825
Wow. I like this. At Sonoma State. And I would

2196
02:13:07,845 --> 02:13:11,341
like some Jobs Karma, Pelosi Jobs Karma, the classic, of

2197
02:13:11,401 --> 02:13:15,298
course, as I search for an accounting internship. Thanks for

2198
02:13:15,338 --> 02:13:17,335
all that. you do please knight me as Sir Blue

2199
02:13:17,436 --> 02:13:24,509
Wolf of the bean counter. Sincerely, Aaron, Aaron, Aaron, it's

2200
02:13:24,549 --> 02:13:32,151
H-E. Ernan, Ernan. Ernan, Ernan, Ernan. Lopez. He's got a

2201
02:13:32,893 --> 02:13:36,390
pronunciation guide for his name, but. Lopez is what we

2202
02:13:36,451 --> 02:13:39,667
call him. And I'm gonna dedouche him. He didn't ask

2203
02:13:39,707 --> 02:13:47,765
for it, but, uh, first-time donor. You've been dedouched. Jobs,

2204
02:13:47,785 --> 02:13:53,738
jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got

2205
02:13:53,758 --> 02:13:58,332
karma. We drop straight from the executive producers in the

2206
02:13:58,432 --> 02:14:02,379
thousands down to our first associate executive producer, Chris Dubendorf

2207
02:14:02,840 --> 02:14:07,928
from Brookville, Maryland, 257.94. Did not have a note, but

2208
02:14:07,988 --> 02:14:10,913
does have an American flag emoji, so I'm going to

2209
02:14:10,994 --> 02:14:13,598
say that is likely for Memorial Day. And I will

2210
02:14:13,618 --> 02:14:16,747
still... Add a double up karma for you. You've got...

2211
02:14:18,447 --> 02:14:24,129
Karma. So we didn't have one normal executive producer. Yeah,

2212
02:14:24,149 --> 02:14:26,562
we did. Oh, executive. No, well, I mean, what do

2213
02:14:26,602 --> 02:14:31,945
you mean normal? 33333. Okay, well, that's a 333. We

2214
02:14:31,985 --> 02:14:39,275
had four executive producers. No, I'm saying normal. Okay. Dame

2215
02:14:40,279 --> 02:14:46,187
Melavation in Colorado Springs 250, she wrote an attached note.

2216
02:14:46,703 --> 02:14:51,185
He's got kind of interesting handwriting. Dear JCD and AC,

2217
02:14:51,225 --> 02:14:54,953
here's some value. This is probably a two. 50 donation

2218
02:14:55,035 --> 02:14:59,945
for the two 50. uh 250 years yeah yeah this

2219
02:14:59,985 --> 02:15:02,020
was a promotion you put it in the newsletter i

2220
02:15:02,080 --> 02:15:07,460
remember yeah we got one - I'm pretty sure Chris

2221
02:15:07,501 --> 02:15:10,638
was one as well, and the fees were $7.94. Just

2222
02:15:10,819 --> 02:15:14,016
guessing. Okay. Celebrating 250 years of this great nation, you

2223
02:15:14,056 --> 02:15:17,622
two will be... part of this country's history. Yeah, I

2224
02:15:17,683 --> 02:15:22,378
think so. After 20 years. By keeping our amygdalas small,

2225
02:15:22,438 --> 02:15:24,627
it's good to hear John being back to his old

2226
02:15:24,727 --> 02:15:29,320
self, but with a seemingly slightly softer edge. My dad

2227
02:15:29,340 --> 02:15:33,007
had triple bypass at the age of 52 and he's

2228
02:15:33,047 --> 02:15:36,565
still around at 87. John, you have 30 more good

2229
02:15:36,605 --> 02:15:41,140
years left. Please keep the best podcast in the universe

2230
02:15:41,180 --> 02:15:45,472
going until after JD or Marco are sworn in as

2231
02:15:45,512 --> 02:15:51,579
number 48. um And he's got, oh, okay. Thank you

2232
02:15:51,619 --> 02:15:54,347
for all that you do for all the producers. and

2233
02:15:54,388 --> 02:15:58,716
the many blessings on everyone peace and joy dame melevation

2234
02:15:59,277 --> 02:16:03,105
melanie drys oh very nice dame elevation thank you for

2235
02:16:03,165 --> 02:16:08,395
celebrating our country with us matthew benjamin clark summit pennsylvania

2236
02:16:08,879 --> 02:16:13,284
And he says, Dear Adam and John, Uh... Oops, sorry,

2237
02:16:13,304 --> 02:16:16,200
hold on a second. Dear Adam and John, In my

2238
02:16:16,321 --> 02:16:18,751
quest to one day make a living as an author,

2239
02:16:19,554 --> 02:16:21,522
well, you talk to John. That's the right guy to

2240
02:16:21,582 --> 02:16:24,975
talk about. I've recently transitioned to the value for value

2241
02:16:25,016 --> 02:16:27,962
model for the distribution of my books. How about that?

2242
02:16:28,003 --> 02:16:30,376
So this donation is a thank you for a great

2243
02:16:30,457 --> 02:16:32,710
show and for giving me hope that the V for

2244
02:16:32,750 --> 02:16:35,268
V model can work for me. And for anyone in

2245
02:16:35,308 --> 02:16:40,577
Gitmo Nation that's looking for a good read, visit MattBRights.com.

2246
02:16:40,597 --> 02:16:47,268
M-A-T-T-B-W-R-I-T-E-S, MattBRights.com. I've got something for everyone, and it's all

2247
02:16:47,328 --> 02:16:50,974
free. No, no, no. See, this is not how you

2248
02:16:50,994 --> 02:16:53,438
do the value for value model. I'm going to just

2249
02:16:53,478 --> 02:16:56,493
help you right there. And as an added thank you,

2250
02:16:56,614 --> 02:16:58,837
any donations I receive in the next month will be

2251
02:16:58,957 --> 02:17:02,201
split with the No Agenda show. Adam, if you can

2252
02:17:02,281 --> 02:17:05,706
find it, I'd love to hear the Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

2253
02:17:05,766 --> 02:17:09,511
jingle, and I'd love to have some prayers. Well, you're

2254
02:17:09,551 --> 02:17:13,937
lucky I actually found the Abu al-Baghdadi jingle. But John,

2255
02:17:13,957 --> 02:17:16,857
could you please... Explain to him how the value for

2256
02:17:16,898 --> 02:17:19,514
value model works for books because you have done this

2257
02:17:19,574 --> 02:17:23,873
with Mimi and TooManyEggs.com. Yeah, you have the book available

2258
02:17:23,933 --> 02:17:29,673
as a PDF. that it's it's free with the idea

2259
02:17:29,793 --> 02:17:32,928
that the book will be downloaded and someone will end

2260
02:17:32,989 --> 02:17:37,547
up buying a printed version. And the idea is that

2261
02:17:37,567 --> 02:17:42,981
you want to... You want to sell. Or they download

2262
02:17:43,001 --> 02:17:45,508
it and give you what they think it's worth in

2263
02:17:45,548 --> 02:17:48,676
the value for value method. But I mean, using the

2264
02:17:48,737 --> 02:17:51,986
word free has got to be minimized. Yeah, that has

2265
02:17:52,006 --> 02:17:54,772
to go. But did it work well for the too

2266
02:17:54,792 --> 02:17:59,372
many eggs doc? I think it worked well, yeah. But

2267
02:17:59,393 --> 02:18:01,138
we saw a lot of books. I mean, the idea

2268
02:18:01,178 --> 02:18:03,245
of the... It was a little different with the Too

2269
02:18:03,265 --> 02:18:05,814
Many Eggs book, so we have a commercial version of

2270
02:18:05,874 --> 02:18:09,256
the book which is printed. And that's not done value

2271
02:18:09,297 --> 02:18:12,610
for value. Got it. Here we go. And that goal

2272
02:18:12,690 --> 02:18:16,298
is to push people in that direction. Daddy. Abu, Abu,

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the United States, has been searching for Baghdadi for many

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years. Baghdadi, he died after running into a dead end.

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I hadn't heard this in a long time. There it

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is. Prayers. Hello. Thanks for requesting that. Hadn't heard that

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in a long time. What is what the "die like

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a dog" refers to? Dogs die normally. Yeah, well... LaJollaSalt.com

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order today. Support the show, people. It's the best podcast

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in the universe. Thank you for your courage. Go podcasting!

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We actually haven't done a go podcasting in a while,

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have we? Where's my go podcasting? I don't know where

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it is. Go podcasting. I've lost my go podcasting. Wait,

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is it here? Uh, no. I don't know where it

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is. Sorry. Go podcasting. Eli the coffee guy. He always

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comes in with $200 and adds the day's date, so

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it's 205-24. He is from Bensonville, Illinois. And he says,

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more fear-mongering on Ebola and Hantavirus. Actually, I think the

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Hanta is over. Uh, Hanta has been pushed to the

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back seat. It better be. It's all Ebola. Both have

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been lingering in the headlines a little too long, but

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I guess... Hey, by the way, can you play the

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Ebola jingle at the end of this? Read Ebola. We

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haven't heard that at all during the entire Ebola crisis.

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Ebola. Yes, that's a good idea. Thank you for reminding

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me. But I guess Scott Gottlieb and the rest of

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his talking heads need something to do. Good coffee is

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a health elixir. Did you know that? I've been reliably

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told it cures all that ails, and maybe even Ebola.

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Well, maybe with the exception, he says, of hemorrhagic fever.

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So visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off

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your order. And as always, stay caffeinated. Eli, the coffee

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guy. Ebola. *laughs* Thanks for reminding me. I'll have to

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bring those back if this nonsense keeps up. It will

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for a while. Ben Sterling. College Station, Texas. Ah, Ben.

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Do name Ben. 200. Good old Ben. Yep. This donation

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should bring me to Viscount. Wow. Please give me jobs,

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Karma, as I just interviewed for my boss's job. And

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being a VP for a Fortune 250 company before 40

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would be cool. Ask anyone. Also, everyone should give. a

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listen to Just Two Good Old Boys podcast with Sir

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Gene and I. Baron soon-to-be Viscount dude named Ben, defender

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of megawatts, protector of the electric grid. Sincerely, Ben. Yes,

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Ben gives us a lot of good information about what's

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really happening in the electric grids. Jobs, jobs, and jobs.

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Let's vote for jobs! And coming in as she always

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does with $200, it is Linda Lupakin from Castle Rock,

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Colorado. And she wants jobs karma and says your resume

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has about 10 seconds to make an impression and most

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don't. For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com.

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Linda helps professionals and executives turn their experience into a

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clear story of leadership, results, and impact. Maybe Ben, maybe

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you should talk to Linda for getting that VP gig.

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She helps professionals and executives turn their experience into a

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clear story of leadership results and impact that's Image Makers

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Inc. with a K. And Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs

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and writer of winning resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

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Let's vote for jobs. You thought, oh my. And we

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continue with the rest of our supporters in the time,

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talent, and treasure, treasure portion, that is, of our Value

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for Value model. We have... And we'll have a meetup

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in a moment. Actually, first we have Sir Ever of

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the what? Linwood, Michigan. 123.45. We love it when you

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do that. And here's the Indy No Agenda meetup, which

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will be a switcheroo. It's a row of sticks, 111

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and 11 cents. This just took place. I got a

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nice meetup coming up for you. Indy No Agenda Meetup

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Raffle Switcheroo. It's a donation for Sir Ripoff the Maple.

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Donation value for value from one of the best monthly

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meetups out there. Congratulations to Sir Ripoff of the Maple

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for winning the money donation raffle. Draw and to newbie

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attendee Tony for runner-up prize, a bottle of JCD. Costco

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recommended Cabernet. Hey, I mean, these are, I mean, this

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is fantastic. Which Cabernet was that? Was that the Kirkland?

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I believe so. Newbies always win at the IndyNA meetups.

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Pro audio meetup report by the amazing Annette Loveslit, Eminem

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of the Greenwood, Daymarie of the Greek Kingdoms, Sir Mark

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of the Greenwood. warden of the crossroads thank you so

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much dame rita sparks nevada 105 dollars and 24 cents

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uh she says we're the best thank you uh dame

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earl early turtle topeka kansas 103 33 shauna norberg bellingham

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washington 100 love you mean it kevin mclaughlin he is

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the archduke of luna lover of america and boobs Concord,

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North Carolina with his boob donation. Every single show, $80.08.

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God bless America and melons. Sir Edward the Henpecked, Omaha,

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Nebraska, $65.23. It's a birthday donation for his loving wife

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on May 23rd. It was yesterday to celebrate our wedding

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anniversary, May 24th, which is today. She loves to torment.

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I don't know what I'd do without her, said Edward

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the Hen-pecked. It's something that's lopsided, I guess. Matthew Elwart

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with Weatherford, Texas with small boobs, $60.06. Same from Les

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Tarkowski, and he's in Kingman, Arizona. Dame Nancy of the

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confused, Sam Bruno, California, 5244. She says, thank you for

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working on the holiday weekend. that i'm thank thank you

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for noticing it's true cold dial alma illinois 52 50

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52 25 we see the palindrome there and here the

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50s just a couple of them alexander delgado aptos california

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with the 50, Baron of the Belmont from Belmont, North

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Carolina. He's the Baron of Belmont and the Catawba River

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Basin. And finally, Michael Myers of Diamond Head, Missouri, wrapping

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02:25:51,046 --> 02:25:58,040
up our Value for Value supporters for episode 1871. I

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would be amiss if I didn't thank, once again, our

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02:26:00,826 --> 02:26:05,919
executive and associate executive producers. Our formula is this. We

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go out, we hit people in the mouth. *Gunshots* Water!

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That's right, noagentlardonations.com. That is where... What happened to... Hmm.

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Oh goodness. Cover for me for a second, John. Somehow

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I missed the indie meetup, which is a real problem

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if I don't have the indie meetup. Cover for me.

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What do you mean you don't have the The tape?

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Exactly. I don't have the tape. Hold on. Hold on.

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02:26:46,320 --> 02:26:49,089
Could you cover in a better way, perhaps? I mean...

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02:26:49,130 --> 02:26:51,196
You don't like sound effects? Well, I mean, you could

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say something, like, you know... Oh, I could talk. I

2395
02:26:53,685 --> 02:26:57,919
could read from the granola package. Oh, man, you are...

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02:26:58,119 --> 02:27:01,281
Okay. Well, let me take a look. How about covering

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with a clip? No, we're already done. I'm good. No,

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02:27:05,070 --> 02:27:10,342
that took no time. You're the worst. Thank you. Yeah,

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I try. Thank you, everybody, for supporting us. Noagendadonations.com. That's

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where you go to send back the value that you

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receive from the show. And you can even set up

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a recurring donation if you feel so moved. Any amount,

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any frequency. Noagendadonations.com. It's your birthday, birthday. On No Agenda.

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It was a real big lead up to the entire

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birthday list, which consists of one birthday. You heard him

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02:27:34,194 --> 02:27:37,780
earlier. Sir Edward the Hen Peck wishes his wife. a

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02:27:37,800 --> 02:27:41,129
very happy birthday to celebrate on the 23rd and today

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they celebrate their wedding anniversary and they never had a

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02:27:43,916 --> 02:27:46,744
fight happy birthday from everybody here the best podcast in

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the universe And, uh... Here we go. The control. Slay!

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Change it! Our title change today is one. It is

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Sir Ben Sterling, who started out as a baron before

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this podcast. And yes, I should remind you to go

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listen to Just Two Good Old Boys, a podcast he

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does with Sir Gene. And today he ups his appearance

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02:28:19,689 --> 02:28:22,641
to the title of Viscount. And we congratulate him with

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that and say thank you very much for your courage.

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Behold! ♪ This ♪ The Star These are limited titles.

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They're going fast, so get in while you can. The

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knighthood that comes accompanied or an instant knight donation with

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a red knight order of the heart pin. It's a

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very handsome pin. You'll like it. And it goes to

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Christian Sutton Jensen. Vincent James, Sir Jim, Sir J-Bones, and

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Hernan Lopez. And we congratulate these brand new Red Knights

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who now officially are part of the Order of the

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Hearts. Behold! We have two nights to bring into the

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round table today, so if you can grab your blade

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there and move it around the cable. Here you go.

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Oh, yeah, very well done. You didn't even hear the

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mic bump at all. Step up on the podium here.

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Both of you become Knights of the NOAA General Roundtable.

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table, you join the Knights and the Dames. And for

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you, we have hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay.

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02:30:02,890 --> 02:30:05,475
We've got harlots and haldol. We've got redheads and ryes,

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beer and blunts, Rubin and Rosé, geysers and sake, vodka

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and vanilla, bongins and bourbon, sparkling cider and escort, ginger

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02:30:13,151 --> 02:30:16,077
ale and gerbils, pressed milk and pablum. And as always

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at the table, we've got you. mutton and your mead

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both of you can go to no agenda rings calm

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02:30:21,788 --> 02:30:24,654
they are very handsome and you all you have to

2441
02:30:24,674 --> 02:30:26,438
do is give us your ring size as a ring

2442
02:30:26,478 --> 02:30:29,183
sizing guide on the website and we will send it

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02:30:29,243 --> 02:30:31,448
off to you as soon as possible give us an

2444
02:30:31,508 --> 02:30:35,736
address obviously and congratulations welcome to that exclusive club of

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02:30:35,777 --> 02:30:51,743
the no agenda nights and dames. Dubs in Tennessee, Sir

2446
02:30:51,763 --> 02:30:54,913
Patrick Coble and Pastor Jimmy and I had a little

2447
02:30:55,033 --> 02:30:59,524
mini meetup at at Arnold's, which is a very cool

2448
02:30:59,945 --> 02:31:03,833
old school barbecue in the middle of Nashville. Maybe the

2449
02:31:03,893 --> 02:31:06,839
last time we'll ever eat there because the taxes are

2450
02:31:06,899 --> 02:31:09,284
so high they may have to close it down. But

2451
02:31:09,344 --> 02:31:12,510
meetups take place all over the world, literally. And you

2452
02:31:12,571 --> 02:31:16,819
can find a meetup near you by going to noagentomeetups.com.

2453
02:31:16,799 --> 02:31:19,224
It's no cost. You just find a place. You all

2454
02:31:19,264 --> 02:31:20,867
agree you're going to meet there. You hang out. You

2455
02:31:20,888 --> 02:31:23,593
have a couple drinks. You talk about the world, talk

2456
02:31:23,633 --> 02:31:26,118
about the show, talk about what's going on, hit people

2457
02:31:26,179 --> 02:31:29,465
in the mouth. And sometimes you send us a meetup

2458
02:31:29,485 --> 02:31:33,113
report. Here's the latest one, number 75 from Leo Bravo.

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02:31:33,654 --> 02:31:36,981
And this is the meetup in Los Angeles. Proud Bird.

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02:31:37,001 --> 02:31:40,147
Hey everybody, it's Leo Bravo at meetup number 75 at

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02:31:40,167 --> 02:31:42,091
the Proud Bird. I'm gonna pass the phone around, my

2462
02:31:42,131 --> 02:31:44,917
friends have things to say. Hey John and Adam, Sir

2463
02:31:44,977 --> 02:31:48,324
Leah Kim Fopop here, just here at the Proud Bird,

2464
02:31:48,724 --> 02:31:53,674
mourning the death of Spirit Airlines. Not really. Sir Robertson

2465
02:31:53,694 --> 02:32:00,407
of Two Sticks, enjoying the plain... Thank you Leo Bravo.

2466
02:32:01,147 --> 02:32:03,793
Hey, great meetup you guys got here. It's Proud Bird

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02:32:03,813 --> 02:32:05,877
just doing a little bit of Plane Spot and enjoying

2468
02:32:05,937 --> 02:32:09,044
some company with some great folks. Long live the Constitution.

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02:32:09,665 --> 02:32:11,990
Hey, this is Eric. Just reminding you, trains are better

2470
02:32:12,010 --> 02:32:15,818
than planes. Train's good, plane's bad. I'm interested in what

2471
02:32:15,838 --> 02:32:17,482
you guys are doing. in the story of the woman

2472
02:32:17,502 --> 02:32:19,566
who was plunging into a searing manhole, I think that

2473
02:32:19,626 --> 02:32:22,833
anything that happens between two consenting adults should stay that

2474
02:32:22,874 --> 02:32:24,537
way. It should not have made the news. Oh, man.

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02:32:25,259 --> 02:32:26,662
Horrible. This is Angie from the ranch over here at

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02:32:26,682 --> 02:32:29,027
the Proud Bird hanging out with Leo Bravo. In the

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02:32:29,067 --> 02:32:32,174
morning. In the morning! In the morning! See, that's what

2478
02:32:32,194 --> 02:32:34,811
I'm talking about. You bring in your server. That makes

2479
02:32:35,375 --> 02:32:39,025
the whole meter... And I'm sure Daymonette did the same

2480
02:32:39,105 --> 02:32:41,871
at the Indy meetup for May. Hello, this is Day

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02:32:41,891 --> 02:32:45,939
Maria. And Sir Mark. We have a small meetup today,

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02:32:45,959 --> 02:32:48,344
but it is amazing as always. Come on, come on,

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02:32:48,384 --> 02:32:51,490
next month. Hey, this is Emily, your Shufflecrat Spook. Insert

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something fun here. Brewski here, just enjoying some beers with

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02:32:54,736 --> 02:32:57,933
the Bald Bros. Sir Rip of the Maple here in

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02:32:57,993 --> 02:33:03,040
Indianapolis attending my monthly Ambigna Size Regulation Vita. My name

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02:33:03,100 --> 02:33:06,986
is Toni. I'm from Louisville, Kentucky. I'm honestly too shy

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02:33:07,006 --> 02:33:10,491
to be here and too gay. This is Katie from

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St. Joseph Public House and Brewery in Indianapolis, Indiana serving

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up the No Agenda. Live from Indianapolis, the home of

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the greatest spectacle in racing, gentlemen, start your podcasts. You

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notice how the servers over there at the brew house

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in Indianapolis, they really get into it. I think they

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have their own contest who can sound the coolest on

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the meter per port. Good job. I appreciate it. There's

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a meetup taking place today in New Jersey, Keyport, New

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Jersey to be exact. The We Drink and We Know

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Things is probably underway as we speak. The I Need

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a Drink edition at 3BR Distillery. Also starting today and

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just a bit from now, the no ID pop-up. That'll

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be at the Alibi Room in Vancouver, British Columbia, in

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Scandinavia. Memorial Day, that is tomorrow. The Monday Madness in

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Squim, 333 Pacific at Barhop Brewing in Squim. If you

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want to know about value for value book publishing, go

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talk to Mimi. She will be there. I'm sure she'll

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be bringing some of her TooManyEggs.com books. And then coming

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up on the 30th, Anchorage, Alaska, we have Ukraine. Excuse

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me, on the 6th of June, Bila Turska, Kiev Oblast,

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Boise, Idaho on the 13th, Franklin, Tennessee on the 13th,

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Indianapolis, Indiana again on June 14th, Charlotte, North Carolina on

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the 18th. Rotterdam in the Netherlands, July 11th, Eagle, Idaho,

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and then we're into August, September, October. You can find

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all of these listed at noagentameetups.com. Please consider going to

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one of these. You will not regret it. I've never

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heard anyone say, I went to a meetup and it

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sucked. Even if there was one person, one other person

2517
02:34:51,652 --> 02:34:55,368
there, people always seem to enjoy it, enjoy it. So

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go find one near you, noagentameetups.com. If you feel moved

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02:34:59,497 --> 02:35:03,045
to start one yourself, that's really easy. Just set it

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up, list it at noagentameetups.com, and watch the fun happen.

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What could possibly go wrong? It's always a party. ♪

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Mix and bake ♪ the same. I feel really bad

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02:35:30,219 --> 02:35:36,855
about this. But amidst the hard drive issues, I... completely

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02:35:37,467 --> 02:35:44,332
Did not get my ISOs. So you win. It's just

2525
02:35:44,393 --> 02:35:47,105
a matter of choosing which one. Which one would you

2526
02:35:47,145 --> 02:35:49,517
like me to play first? Well, I've gone with all

2527
02:35:49,557 --> 02:35:54,426
celebrities this show. Oh, nice. So let's start with Arnold

2528
02:35:54,446 --> 02:35:57,645
Schwarzenegger and Scrooge. Screw. Screw your other podcasts. This is

2529
02:35:57,706 --> 02:36:02,183
the best. *laughs* That's a good one. I like that.

2530
02:36:02,304 --> 02:36:06,298
Very good. And who was the other celebrity? The other

2531
02:36:06,439 --> 02:36:10,672
one is Hillary Clinton. Wow. The No Agenda podcast is

2532
02:36:10,772 --> 02:36:15,020
too delicious to believe, my friend. Wow, this is a-

2533
02:36:14,999 --> 02:36:18,128
First of all, where'd you get these? I did them.

2534
02:36:18,509 --> 02:36:21,454
You called up Arnold and you called up Hillary. Hey,

2535
02:36:21,594 --> 02:36:24,380
Arnold, can you give me a quickie here? I honestly

2536
02:36:24,440 --> 02:36:27,024
think Arnold is the better one. Screw your other podcasts.

2537
02:36:27,044 --> 02:36:31,473
This is the best. Okay, fine. That may ever be

2538
02:36:31,493 --> 02:36:34,538
an evergreen. That is so good. Hey, everybody, right now

2539
02:36:34,578 --> 02:36:38,177
it's time. for John's tip of the day. ♪ Fast

2540
02:36:38,320 --> 02:36:42,699
for you and me ♪ Just the tip with JCB.

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02:36:43,375 --> 02:36:49,657
and sometimes Adam. Okay, since I'm a heart patient, I

2542
02:36:49,697 --> 02:36:53,733
have to have no salt in my diet basically for

2543
02:36:53,793 --> 02:36:56,486
the next year or two. Oh, no. horrible probably forever

2544
02:36:56,527 --> 02:36:59,363
yeah And so I've had to come up with ways

2545
02:36:59,443 --> 02:37:03,793
of seasoning food that, you know, and other people need

2546
02:37:03,813 --> 02:37:05,898
to go and lower salt. They need to know these

2547
02:37:05,978 --> 02:37:08,864
things. And so I found a couple of products, which

2548
02:37:08,884 --> 02:37:12,152
I think are quite good at salt substitutes. This is

2549
02:37:12,172 --> 02:37:14,717
a very good tip for people who can't. Now, why

2550
02:37:14,797 --> 02:37:17,030
can't you have salt? What is the reason? What does

2551
02:37:17,110 --> 02:37:19,587
salt do to the heart? It changes your electrolytic balance.

2552
02:37:19,975 --> 02:37:22,348
And how is that bad for your heart? It makes

2553
02:37:22,389 --> 02:37:25,888
your heart go into irregular heartbeats. Oh, okay. That wouldn't

2554
02:37:25,909 --> 02:37:30,922
be good. No. No. So that's one of many things.

2555
02:37:32,287 --> 02:37:33,993
It's also hard on the kidneys. It has all kinds

2556
02:37:34,013 --> 02:37:39,767
of issues. Okay. Now I had a Goya, a Cezanne

2557
02:37:39,787 --> 02:37:44,184
though, Total or whatever. picked some time ago, but I'm

2558
02:37:44,224 --> 02:37:51,164
gonna bump that and go with "Badia" complete. No added

2559
02:37:51,325 --> 02:37:56,368
salt. This is the badia seasoning from the Mexican. food

2560
02:37:56,449 --> 02:38:00,225
provider. It's a seasoning. Buy the biggest container of it

2561
02:38:00,245 --> 02:38:03,640
that you can find, usually in a Mexican store. And

2562
02:38:03,941 --> 02:38:08,375
it, actually, Brennan has said that it saved my palate,

2563
02:38:08,395 --> 02:38:12,288
is using this stuff on everything. It is a terrific

2564
02:38:12,990 --> 02:38:17,912
all-purpose seasoning. What does it taste like? Well, if you

2565
02:38:17,952 --> 02:38:19,915
smell it, you can smell all kinds of stuff in

2566
02:38:19,955 --> 02:38:23,220
it. It's got garlic and onion. It's got the basic

2567
02:38:23,261 --> 02:38:26,546
things, and it's also kosher for people who worry about

2568
02:38:26,586 --> 02:38:30,972
that. Well, our Jew money, people will be happy. Yeah,

2569
02:38:30,992 --> 02:38:37,948
it's kosher, and it's just a terrific... garlicy, oniony, cinnamon,

2570
02:38:37,968 --> 02:38:39,564
it's got all kinds of stuff in it. It's just

2571
02:38:39,645 --> 02:38:44,196
a... It's an all-purpose seasoning. You dump it on everything

2572
02:38:44,216 --> 02:38:52,333
and use it generously. Have you considered MSG? MSG is

2573
02:38:52,375 --> 02:38:54,911
sodium. Oh it is? Oh that's right of course it's

2574
02:38:55,013 --> 02:39:00,338
Muto. Multi Mutaglamonate Studium Glamban Academy. Yeah. What is it

2575
02:39:00,378 --> 02:39:05,673
again? What is MSG again? Monosodium glutamate. That's what it

2576
02:39:05,773 --> 02:39:08,060
is. Okay, give me the name of this product again

2577
02:39:08,120 --> 02:39:10,006
because I may have to try that. It sounds good.

2578
02:39:10,026 --> 02:39:14,619
Oh, you'll love this stuff. It's Badia, B-A-D-I-A. Badia? Uh...

2579
02:39:14,723 --> 02:39:22,297
C'est saison completa. And it just says complete seasoning. And

2580
02:39:22,317 --> 02:39:27,716
if you go to a Mexican mercado or a supermercado,

2581
02:39:28,097 --> 02:39:31,348
they will have the big giant containers of it. Ask

2582
02:39:31,388 --> 02:39:35,354
for it by name at your local mercado. Yeah, it's

2583
02:39:35,374 --> 02:39:38,145
great. I might try that. It sounds good. Hey, this

2584
02:39:38,205 --> 02:39:39,691
is just one of the many tips of the day

2585
02:39:39,731 --> 02:39:46,907
you can find at noagendafun.com, tipsoftheday.net. Just the Tip with

2586
02:39:47,291 --> 02:39:52,377
JC Deer Sometimes at all. Created by Dana Burnetti. Well,

2587
02:39:52,458 --> 02:39:54,940
there we go. Perfect timing because I need... to get

2588
02:39:55,000 --> 02:39:59,948
my fancy suit on for the big K-Love Awards tonight

2589
02:40:00,048 --> 02:40:02,572
at the Grand Ole Opry. You're going to be presenting?

2590
02:40:02,592 --> 02:40:05,998
You know, they have podcast awards and they've never asked

2591
02:40:06,058 --> 02:40:10,085
me, never even considered to have me present and this

2592
02:40:10,105 --> 02:40:11,928
is my third year I've been there. So no, I

2593
02:40:11,968 --> 02:40:14,479
will not be. I'll just be in the audience. You

2594
02:40:14,500 --> 02:40:16,744
just be a schmuck in the audience? Well, I'm with

2595
02:40:16,764 --> 02:40:21,114
the most... You get a go bag. There's no swag

2596
02:40:21,174 --> 02:40:24,942
bag, any of that. No. What? No. No, but we

2597
02:40:24,982 --> 02:40:28,570
will worship God. This is the good news. Lots of

2598
02:40:28,650 --> 02:40:37,589
Jesus. That's cheap. Okay. I think it airs on, I

2599
02:40:37,609 --> 02:40:39,575
don't know what it airs on, TBN next week or

2600
02:40:39,636 --> 02:40:41,802
something. So I could actually tell you the winners on

2601
02:40:41,883 --> 02:40:43,808
Thursday, but I might not. Oh, and then we can

2602
02:40:43,869 --> 02:40:48,008
bet on them in the betting market. Kelchie up. Show

2603
02:40:48,089 --> 02:40:52,731
mix is coming up by Molly Berry, Just Baker, and

2604
02:40:52,932 --> 02:40:56,130
MVP is back. So enjoy that. And coming up next

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02:40:56,451 --> 02:40:58,654
on the No Agenda stream, if you're still listening through

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your modern podcast app, Mutton Meat and Music, Oystein Berger,

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will bring you, will spin the tunes for you. They're

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all value for value as well. Coming to you from

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the live music capital of the world, Nashville, Tennessee. In

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the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. From the Refinery Row

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in northern San Francisco Bay, I'm John C. Dvorak. Remember

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the beat to the synod CamelBap! Value for value, producers

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slide it in. Selling meltdown on that one 1A bill

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pass. Tulsi stepping off. Husband ill as the classy flash.

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Ebola creeping back. WHO cranking up the cash. whole cycle

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