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I love Max Velocity. Larry Blytner. Darren O'Neill. It's Thursday,

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July 30th, 2026. This is your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination

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episode 1890. This is no agenda. And we're broadcasting live

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from just outside of Chirac, right here in the FEMA

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region number five in the morning, everybody. I am Darren

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O'Neill. And from the pretentious Connecticut shore, this is Larry

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Blytner, keeping commies and creeps at bay with my gleaming

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scimitar of truth. Ruth! It's Darren and Larry. In the

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morning. Yeah. That was weird. That was stimulating, especially those

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dropouts. Was that just on my end? I double clicked.

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That was the problem. Sometimes you single click, sometimes you

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double click. But when it's live, baby, it is live.

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It's live. So you get your single mistake out of

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the way. Now you'll be perfect for the rest of

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the show. Everything's going to be great. People are like,

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who are these guys? What is going on? We're not

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telling them anything. They have to ask us. It's a

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secret. I understand. This is the show must go on.

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This is the time. Thursdays and Sundays. Right now, no

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agenda happens no matter what. No matter what. And with

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the sad passing of John C. Dvorak, Adam Curry needs

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a couple of weeks off. And he asked the two

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kids that just wanted to go joyride the car if

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they wanted to do the show. I wasn't gonna say

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no. And you couldn't say no for me. I speak

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for myself. We've been doing a little show called Planet

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Rage for the last five years, five years at the

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end of August. Isn't that amazing? And we basically stole

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the whole no agenda vibe. We did a clip show.

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We was originally like no agenda. We were originally going

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to do like an hour show. Yeah. Keep it short.

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Just bring clips that made us mad. But that sounds

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awful when you say steal, because there was more. We

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kind of tumbled into it, Darren, right? It's an homage.

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Yeah, but I mean, you were doing this other show,

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right, with Sir Bemrose, and then you guys had a

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falling out, or creative differences, as they say in Hollywood,

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right? And then you had the kindness and fortitude to

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ask me if I wanted to fill in, but of

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course, I'm no Ben. Not even a little. And then

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you said, well, why don't we just do no agenda?

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Okay, let's do that. Right? Is that correct? Am I

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remembering correctly? It's like, here's the concept. It works. Yeah.

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We just added anger management issues to the joke that

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I've been going with for the last... Poorly managed. A

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couple of years. Because, I mean, normally we're a little

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saltier, but we don't have to be. No, we know

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this is more of a family audience, so we'll keep

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it kind of in check. We'll try to warn you

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if there are any F-bombs coming up. And there's been

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some from politicians this week, which was kind of fun.

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Yes, there have. Isn't that fabulous? Yeah. But the world

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works in very strange ways. and the way Larry and

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I got together is no different. Oh, it's bizarre. Kicking

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off. Well, Larry needed help with some audio gear and

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I just happened to do a... video review of it

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on Amazon and YouTube. I think you saw it on

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Amazon. I saw it on Amazon. It was about a

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preamp. that I needed, and there was this guy. PBX,

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you know, and it's 200 bucks, but 200 bucks is

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200 bucks. And so there was this, this guy saying,

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you know, if you want to know more about this,

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just was like, email me or come over. How did

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that work? Was it through Amazon? I don't even remember.

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I don't know, but you, cause I had the reviews

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email address set up at the time. Cause that's when

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Amazon was letting you get free stuff to do reviews

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and all that. And Larry asked the question and rather

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than being a, you know, miscreant, I was like, no,

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I can answer. And you did. And it just kind

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of, Went from there. He's like, hey, I do this

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podcast. So I started checking out That Larry Show, thatlarryshow.com.

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And I was at that point, actually. not doing a

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show at all and there was a buddy of mine

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that wanted to do a show we had done a

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few episodes but then that kind of went by the

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wayside i had the Retina blowout, five retinal surgeries, lost

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most of the vision in my right eye. So if

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I'm slow at reading the notes... The left eye isn't

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great either, floaters and that kind of stuff. And I

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can hear in my ear. The producer in the sky,

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John C. Dvorak, going, yeah, use the eye thing. It's

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good for donations. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. Plus, let's tell

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everybody you look like a pirate. I should wear the

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eye patch. It would be a fashion accessory like the

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guy from the 80s that did that round and round

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song. There was that weird video. But I hadn't been

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doing a show and Larry's the one that's like, dude,

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just do it solo-mento. Do a solo show. You know,

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like when Adam tells stories about you, I try to

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do the low voice and it doesn't work, but... Well,

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it's true. And because I guarantee you would never be

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disappointed. A guest that didn't show. And have you been?

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No. Troop. So I started doing random thoughts. which I'm

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still doing 370 whatever it is episodes into that. And

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that is a solo show, which is anybody that's done

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one will tell you way harder than a show with

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somebody else. Pretty much, yeah. So it kind of helped

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me go through all of these things. And while I

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was face down for, I'm forgetting even how many weeks

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it was totally, but I'm remembering like 12 weeks because

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it's normally just two or three, but then they had

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to redo the surgery and redo the surgery. And it

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wasn't until I found a better surgeon that they finally

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got the retina to stay up. But then the vision

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was pretty much gone. While being face down 24 hours

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a day, which also meant sleeping face down with your

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head in a donut. I remember JCD reading my note

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when I made a donation right afterwards and was like,

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oh. Because, yeah, it's no fun. No, I can't be

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good. But I spent a lot of time... During those

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weeks listening to podcasts, and I'd already been a semi-regular

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No Agenda fan, but this kind of took it into...

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full orbit which the oddest thing when you're kind of

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like sleep deprived having those earphones in falling asleep face

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down with the podcast on I remember having multiple dreams

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where it was like I was in the room with

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Adam and John. And it happened with the Tell Them

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Steve Get Dave guys as well who I was listening

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to that podcast too. Were you all clothed in this

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room? Yes. Yes, everybody was totally clothed. but it was

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like I was a part of the conversation. And while

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I'm dreaming, I'm answering and arguing, but of course they

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can't hear me because it's a podcast and it's not

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live and I'm not really there. But that's how that

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all came to be. Random thoughts came to be. And

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then I went to Void Zero, the guy that keeps

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everything running for the No Agenda show. And I'm like,

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dude, I've got this podcast. I mean, how do I

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get it on the Mighty No Agenda stream? And he's

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like, go to Sir Benbrow's. And I'm like, oh, Jesus.

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I mean, I didn't know Bembrose then, so I'm just

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remembering now I should have got that. All right. So

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that got added to the stream. Mark Von Dyke void

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zeros was doing the music show before no agenda. And

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he started having his kids and his family. And he's

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like, you want to take over for a few weeks?

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Ah. In 700 and some odd episodes of the... The

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rock and roll pre-show later. Here we are. Here we

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are. And then you brought me into, you hit me

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in the mouth. Yeah. About Noah Jenner. And here's what

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gets extra crazy. It was right at ground zero of

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the scandemic. And here we are now back, and it's

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sort of reared its head, its flaming head, with the

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Fauci furor that's going on right now, which is really

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kind of bizarre and providential, I think. It is a

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very interesting look because we always figured we're going to

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get some kind of information on that. And there's plenty

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of that to dissect here today. But we just wanted

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to let everybody know who we are, why we're here.

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Adam needed a couple of weeks off. And I don't

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know what's happening after that. I don't think Adam knows

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what's happening after that as of yet. But the guy

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needed a break. And if there's one thing we've noticed

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with, any podcast when you take a week off even

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when you try to run a best of or something

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like that people kind of tune out and they don't

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really pay much attention and we were more than happy

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to fill in because it seems very natural today adam's

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like why are you feeling them like it feels like

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a regular show with way more clips and way more

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donations yeah That's kind of the aspect there. And so,

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yeah, when I went to you and said, hey, listen

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to this, no agenda, you're like Adam Curry, the MTV

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guy. So it's a very interesting thing because you were

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definitely coming into this knowing Adam, but not knowing John

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C. Dvorak, where I knew Adam because I saw it

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had Banger's Ball and all that on MTV. But I

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was the guy with the computer at 12 years old

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and playing with all this stuff in the 80s. So

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Dvorak was the thing that brought me in. I guess

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it all, uh... It all comes full circle, I suppose.

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It sure does. Very strange. And the universe works in

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very weird ways. It does. It's glorious. The only time

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I'd ever spoken to this many people, and hello, Gitmo

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Nation, thank you for letting us come into your ears

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today. Yes, thank you one and all. Thank you, producers,

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which we plan to convert to plaintiffs. No, just kidding.

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Criminals, right. Exactly. The only time was I won a

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radio contest back in the day. to go in and

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do these sports on the loop. FF98 for one segment.

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Jonathan Brandmeier, Johnny B. Johnny B. So when I tuned

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in to No Agenda again around that time of the

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eye surgery, it's like I noticed that the, and I

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don't know how far back it goes. But the voice

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that you hear or have heard at the beginning of

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every no agenda up until today. That said, it's Crackpot

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and Buzzkill! That's Johnny B. So it's like this was

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just a very weird full circle moment for me as

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well. Because if it wasn't for Johnny B. I would

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have never start playing with microphones and pretending I'm doing

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radio shows and all of that. Oh, dude. When I

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was like 10, 12, whatever he hit Chicago in high

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school, it was slightly before. I would get up at

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like five in the morning in the summertime just to

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listen to Johnny's show on the loop because it was

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hilarious. So he was your unknowing mentor. no doubt about

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it. So when I heard his voice at the beginning

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of every No Agenda, I'm like, huh. This is interesting.

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Yeah. So the universe, I don't even try to figure

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out exactly why things happen at this point. I just

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go with them and say they happen for a reason.

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Well, it happened even again yesterday when we were doing

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Planet Rage. And for some reason I mentioned the robot

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from Lost in Space, Dr. Smith, and you kind of

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chimed in on that. At the same time, Adam and

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the preacher were discussing the same robot from the same

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show. Pastor Jimmy released an episode called Danger Will Robinson,

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and we were just doing the Danger Will Robinson bit.

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Very strange. What are the odds? I don't know. And

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I will say, my anxiety level on Sunday when the

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announcement was made was not much. I figured I'm doing

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a show. I'm used to talking. If there's one thing

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I'm good at, it's talking. Monday came on, Adam's sending

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me all the information that I need. He set up,

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this guy is beyond a vibe coder. He has created

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a podcasting system that he could probably have an exit

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strategy and make a lot of money with. And he

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was hooking me up with this. And I'm like, oh,

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dude, this is awesome. This is great. I got to,

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you know, get out of here. I got to go.

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The wife's coming home for lunch and then I'm doing

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Planet Rage. And it's like, great. The wife's walking in

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the door. Her phone's going off with a tornado warning.

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No big deal. That happens here all the time. by

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like 20 to 1 20 minutes before planet rage would

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have started it was darker than night and the storm

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that hit here was of epic proportions 100 mile an

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hour plus winds power went out which the anxiety level

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went like way higher because the last time the power

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went out at my parents house it was out for

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four days and i'm like i don't have four days

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power was out. So, okay, that came back on. But

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then... We missed a couple of planet rages. And I

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said to Larry, I'm like. I mean, you don't think

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Dvorak would send, like, tornadoes and stuff to try to

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keep me from doing the show, would you? And Larry's

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like, yeah, I do. I think he probably would. It's

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all because... I trolled him with music and... Brenda Christensen,

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I think her name was. If I'm messing that up,

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I apologize. Did a really nice. obituary for the late

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great John C. Dvorak where she mentioned one that he

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hated ABBA with a passion. So the fact that I

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played dancing queen for him one day, I knew I

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hit. Oh. But she also said he had a mad

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crush on Britney Spears. And I'm like, I could have

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used this information. KCD gave me so much crap for

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being a Taylor Swift fan. They had a mad crush

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on Britney Spears? Like that is, I could have used

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that information. That is good trolling information right there. Now

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we know. You got the last laugh. I don't. That

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was his plan all along, no doubt about it. Who

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knows what'll fly out of the sky and bonk you

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in the back of the head, Darren. I looked. I've

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never been seen by any tornadoes. There was one. that

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they po-

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The path of the tornado that hit. Two miles away.

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Oh my goodness, there were some of these storms that

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I've seen on the Max Velocity channel. There was like

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30, 40, 50 storm chasers all on the same storm.

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I'm like, how can there be so many of you?

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And who pays them, Max Velocity or YouTube? Well, he

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would pay some of them to be a part of

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his network, but otherwise there's a lot. their own YouTube

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channels. Wow. Think of a car, maybe an old Lexus,

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you know, put some big panels on the outside. So

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when you're driving through a tornado, you could not. doesn't

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flip over. I mean, that was just some crazy damage

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in the area. So we were totally blessed that the

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house is still standing. The only problem we had was

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the power going out. There were a lot of people

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not so lucky, very close to here. Appleton, Wisconsin. Just

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absolutely. But now that everybody knows who we are, let's

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get to the Anthony Fauci bit. Okay. Fauci is an

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interesting character, and I understand why they're going after him.

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Well, sure. But you know, I mean, it's all politics

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at this point. It's not going to go anywhere. I

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mean, it's meaning... community. turn on stage, resigning the light,

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the lines he chose. Now he's on the other side

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and it's, you know, it's all these and, and, and.

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to wax poetic. What struck me about this is, if

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you think, you've got two and a half centuries. of

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legislative frivolity going on here. And that entire time, I

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think this is the absolute zenith of comedy in American

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government. Nothing. He took the Fifth Amendment. So this is

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even better. Yeah. Dr. Anthony Fauci invoked the Fifth Amendment

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111 times. Once hailed as the nation's savior, got pummeled

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today as he pleaded the fifth a grand total of

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111 times. Obviously, he invoked. I met Ryan. not once,

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but 111 times. Yeah, more than 70 times pleading the

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Fifth. More than 70 times he invoked his right under

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the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. them up and gave

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111 every time they announced it but that was cnn

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then CNN says, oh, over 70. What do you mean?

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right? Simply. It shows you why the... A lot of

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what came out of was fairly interesting. One of the

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things that was new to me in his diary was

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his admission that he got a pulmonary infarction. very highly

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publicized press conference. They showed people that were safe. one

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of the primary most expected adverse events Potentially deadly blood

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clots in his lung, mitocardial infarction. He kept that secret

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from the American. Yeah, well, I think a lot of

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the left doesn't want to. clown that he is. you

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know, with flashing lights. The evil buffoon. Yes. And, you

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know, we're hearing about this, but there's, unfortunately, there's very

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little audio. There was a thing of Julia Roberts with

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him. I'm sure a lot of people saw a clip

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of that. But it's what Fauci said to himself about

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all this that I think is so fascinating. very brief

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entries that I plucked out from, I think it was

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like an 1100 page PDF. It was, it was a

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huge document, all this crap that, uh, that I think

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that people might enjoy hearing. I don't know. Yeah. Right.

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Why not? I would think this is the inner look

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at to what this guy was thinking, which the over

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seems the overall. Seems to be that he was way

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more in. The being America's doctor rather. right? Had a

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wonderful Instagram. She was absolutely fabulous. She embarrassed me somewhat

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when I... Boom. She put her hands in front of

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a mountain and said, oh my God, it's Dr. Fauci.

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He is here. And she went on to say that

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I was her personal hero. she was to have this

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conversation with me. Great experience. And February 23rd, 2021. Had

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a great call with Barbra Streisand. She called my cell

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at 6:05 p.m. She has recently had plaster lesion on

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her buttock. This is in his diary? This is in

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his diary. Did people only shoot one side of her

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face? photographs. And now Fauci's ratted her out that she's

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got a lesion on her arm. So Saffatchi goes on

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to say, she has post-sostum neuralgia down her leg, but

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the primary... has healed she wanted to know if it

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was okay to get them an ra vaccine i told

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her yes we then stared we went and started discussing

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life in general i told her that i worked listening

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to her Alexa. She really did not know what Alexa

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was. I accidentally butt dialed her later in the evening

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and she said, me anyways. I wanted to know if

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there was any difference between the Moderna and Pfizer product.

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I told her none. I then explained to her more

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about Alexa. I brought the phone over to Alexa and

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asked it to play song. Bombers dry sand. When the

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song came on loud and clear, she started laughing and

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absolutely loved it. Wow. How about that? Verbatim. I'm not...

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This is right out of his diary. And here's this

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one. extraordinary and memorable evening last night at the Kennedy

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Center, Joan Baez invited me to court on the occasion

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of her receiving the Kennedy Center medallion. Finally, I got

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to meet her in person. After the year-long building up

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of our friendship via texts and phone calls, she is

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absolutely amazing, warm, an endearing person, and our friendship was

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cemented last night as it became clear. were, as I

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said, meant for each other. by the attention. paid to

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me by all the celebrities who much they were appreciative

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of what I'd been doing. A typical example was Garth

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Brooks' wife, Trisha Yearwood, who was just meet me. The

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same was true for many other people. Debbie Allen and

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Broadway legend Chita Rivera as well as Dick Van Dyke.

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I got to escort Joan up to the stage to

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receive her award and I sat with her as she

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waited to go on the stage. After the ceremony, we

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all went outside. It was a spectacular evening. He seems

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very verbose for a guy who wouldn't answer any questions.

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Word for word, baby. I mean, this guy's got some

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serious kinks in his head. Why was he even writing

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this down during the pandemic? I mean, why is he

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writing this to himself? I mean, he knows what happened.

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I mean, holy shit. And this was obviously, why was

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this? they apparently this wasn't handwritten in some journal this

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was you know perhaps I don't know, but obviously, It's

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been very clear that he thinks Anthony Fauci is a

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criminal. The Biden pardon, which was probably signed by the

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auto pen, seems to give him immunity, which. Eddie, because

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they couldn't legally hold him responsible. The only way he

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was going to get himself in trouble was if they

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could then prove he lied in his answers, which. you

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This session which I was watching and it was kind

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of It was also kind of sad. Thank you, Mr.

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Chairman. like taking the fifth, huh, Doc? Let's try something.

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What day of the week is it today? you On

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the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based

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upon my rights under the fifth... On the advice of

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counsel. I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights

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under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. What color's the

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carpet in front of you? Good questions. Yeah. On the

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advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer. you there's

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a public servant now interestingly enough that you brought this

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up remember at that hearing he had according to rand

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paul there were six attorneys accompanying him right five sitting

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behind him and then one next to him who got

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thrown out because he couldn't keep his mouth shut which

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was very funny but you know there's always And this

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is the woman on CNN that said there were 112

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uses of the

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And he thinks Fauci did himself a tremendous disservice. taking

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the fifth and you can hear him blather in Fauci

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number two. Law prof says Fauci goofed. Yeah, and I

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don't know how you wouldn't because... It is... What everybody

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just assumed, it's like when you hear mobsters, oh, we're

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taking the fifth. Well, it's because you have to be

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a criminal. Yeah. for the pardon in all likelihood. He's

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pardoned for all actions before January 2025. But that also

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means that you're forced to testify. That's how prosecutors use

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immunity or pardons. And they say, now you're forced to

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testify because you don't have any criminal liability, what we're

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going to ask you about. So then to plead the

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fifth is actually, he could then be held in contempt.

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There could be, theoretically at least, a Justice Department that

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goes after him for not answering when he is not

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really facing that criminal charge. Yeah, and also when the

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reason put out is perjury traps, then of course, again,

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to the layperson, it's saying, well, why wouldn't you just

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say the truth? What would be the problem in that?

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So, you know, I understand that's a layperson thing, but

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it doesn't sound good. That doesn't sound good. But I'll

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say this. Like I said, this is the biggest comedic

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event in the history of the United States government. No

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question about it. And Fauci, I think he's missing a

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huge opportunity because had he played that correctly and not

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listened to his attorneys, he would be getting a residency

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at Caesar's Palace and they'd come to him with a

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blank goddamn check. Whatever you say, Tony, fill in the

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number yourself. guy, okay? He could have launched himself past

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the likes of Kinison and Carlin, really. And here's how.

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Fauci number three, this is what Fauci should have said

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to Josh Hawley when he was trying to rattle him.

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Yeah, we got his clip too, because it's very interesting,

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back and forth, because you knew the game that was

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being played. Yeah, it's a different version. Well, nothing says

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honesty like taking the fifth, huh, Doc? Let's try something.

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What day of the week is it today? Thursday. I

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know that because it was always a Thursday when I

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met your mother at the Holiday Inn. What color tie

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are you wearing? What color is your tie? Looks like

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puke. What color is the carpet in front of you?

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Brown. Like the skid marks in your BVDs. Okay. Very

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realistic Fauci. Huh? It's a very realistic Fauci. Yeah. If

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Fauci had done that, he'd be the biggest star on

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the planet right now. But he didn't do bad. Well,

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and he wouldn't have walked himself into any perjury traps

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and. When you constantly take the fifth, you look guilty.

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When they know that they can't prosecute him for anything,

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really the only thing... the Republicans have going after him.

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is to do what they can to destroy his public

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image. And I think they did a pretty good job

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of that. Oh, yeah. Because he sat there and just

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was like, I don't know. And again, the question is...

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Can they really do anything because of the privilege which...

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Things change. You can take the fifth to not incriminate

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yourself so you don't go to jail. But once you've

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gotten immunity. It's a little different. Let's just get one

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thing straight. You don't have any rights under the Fifth

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Amendment because you've been pardoned, as you very well know,

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as the Supreme Court has been clear for a century

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and more. Brown versus Walker, 1896. When he has been

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pardoned, he may not stand upon his privilege. You know

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that. Your lawyer is sitting behind you now shifting nervously

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in their chairs. They know it. This isn't about the

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Constitution. This isn't about the law. This is about contempt.

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Contempt for this body and contempt for the American people.

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But I think I know why you're doing it. It's

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because you don't want to answer questions. It's because you

466
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,302
did all kinds of terrible things. It's because during the

467
00:34:32,342 --> 00:34:36,965
pandemic, you got rich, didn't you? You got rich while

468
00:34:37,045 --> 00:34:40,207
people were dying, hundreds of thousands of Americans, over a

469
00:34:40,287 --> 00:34:42,609
million in the end, and you were getting rich. And

470
00:34:42,669 --> 00:34:45,111
not only were you doing that, you were using federal

471
00:34:45,191 --> 00:34:50,374
employees with taxpayer money to apply for and solicit cash

472
00:34:50,754 --> 00:34:56,118
prizes for you personally. Cash prizes totaling over a million

473
00:34:56,478 --> 00:35:03,683
dollars. during the pandemic, didn't you? That's a question. I

474
00:35:03,803 --> 00:35:06,265
love that line. Yeah, because Fauci was like, well, is

475
00:35:06,305 --> 00:35:09,407
that rhetorical? Do you want me to answer? And this

476
00:35:09,487 --> 00:35:13,029
was something that I did not know going into this,

477
00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:17,552
which again, this is. the route the Republicans took at

478
00:35:17,572 --> 00:35:19,614
this point because he wasn't going to answer you, get

479
00:35:19,694 --> 00:35:23,416
as much information out there. as you can. And the

480
00:35:23,596 --> 00:35:28,200
fact that they had the information, and it wasn't just

481
00:35:28,900 --> 00:35:32,222
what Josh Hawley said here, which is you made a

482
00:35:32,242 --> 00:35:35,204
lot of money on this. They had, as the kids

483
00:35:35,244 --> 00:35:38,827
say, the receipts. They said you had this one of

484
00:35:38,867 --> 00:35:42,349
your staffers doing this, going after this prize, this one

485
00:35:42,389 --> 00:35:46,152
of your staffers doing this, this doing this, talking about

486
00:35:46,192 --> 00:35:49,474
the amount of money that he wasn't. This wasn't just

487
00:35:49,594 --> 00:35:53,417
like Johns Hopkins or somebody's, like, hey, Dr. Fauci, you're

488
00:35:53,417 --> 00:35:55,998
doing so good. Here's a bunch of money. He was

489
00:35:56,258 --> 00:36:00,461
literally using his minions who were getting paid by the

490
00:36:00,481 --> 00:36:04,344
federal government to go out and be like, hey, hey,

491
00:36:04,564 --> 00:36:06,625
don't you think Fauci should get that award? Hey, don't

492
00:36:06,665 --> 00:36:10,368
you think Fauci should get that money? Sure. He's harvesting

493
00:36:10,428 --> 00:36:13,750
votes. And that is such a big difference where it's

494
00:36:13,790 --> 00:36:19,734
like you're out there, one. You're loving being the center

495
00:36:19,834 --> 00:36:23,797
of attention. which I guess maybe he hadn't really had

496
00:36:23,877 --> 00:36:27,660
that recently. I know he was big during the AIDS

497
00:36:27,740 --> 00:36:31,682
epidemic. And it's very interesting when you see the leftist

498
00:36:31,762 --> 00:36:35,445
media, which is pretty much all of it. fawn over

499
00:36:35,545 --> 00:36:37,806
what he did during the AIDS crisis. And then you

500
00:36:37,966 --> 00:36:42,349
hear what actually happened. It's fascinating. I saw it. I

501
00:36:42,389 --> 00:36:44,551
didn't take it, but there was a clip of the

502
00:36:44,751 --> 00:36:48,834
10 Mile Zone guy. What's his name? Yeah, the lead

503
00:36:48,854 --> 00:36:51,776
guy, the founder of that. And he did about three

504
00:36:51,856 --> 00:36:55,338
minutes just extolling the virtues of Tony Fauci. And he

505
00:36:55,398 --> 00:36:58,720
actually went into, you know, I was there when friends

506
00:36:58,740 --> 00:37:03,704
of mine were saved by Fauci. And there's a big

507
00:37:03,784 --> 00:37:06,145
difference of opinion in that. And there was a guy

508
00:37:06,446 --> 00:37:09,528
at that time, his name was Larry Kramer, a gay

509
00:37:09,608 --> 00:37:13,891
guy, very, very vocal spokesman for the gay movement. And

510
00:37:13,911 --> 00:37:17,933
he basically, he wanted Fauci executed back then, you know.

511
00:37:18,754 --> 00:37:22,256
So it's interesting to hear these people. step up to

512
00:37:22,316 --> 00:37:25,118
bat for this guy really is well it's the dimension

513
00:37:25,158 --> 00:37:28,841
a dimension b effect because the people that are on

514
00:37:28,941 --> 00:37:32,903
the left are going to tell you Fauci did nothing

515
00:37:33,124 --> 00:37:38,867
wrong. He has to take the fifth because the Republicans

516
00:37:38,947 --> 00:37:42,490
are trying to do a gotcha game on him. And

517
00:37:42,570 --> 00:37:45,492
then you have the people on the right who seem

518
00:37:45,632 --> 00:37:49,414
to have... the evidence to back up what they're saying,

519
00:37:49,414 --> 00:37:56,159
the, this, the Bernie Moreno clip here, this was one

520
00:37:56,219 --> 00:38:00,242
of my favorite because. After you have taken the fifth

521
00:38:00,342 --> 00:38:03,664
as Fauci did so many times. I did not see

522
00:38:03,744 --> 00:38:07,106
this question come either. This one was beautiful in so

523
00:38:07,186 --> 00:38:11,549
many different ways. which was, well. Do you know what

524
00:38:11,569 --> 00:38:15,552
the Fifth Amendment says and who wrote it? I echo

525
00:38:15,872 --> 00:38:19,054
Senator Johnson's comments about your opening statement, Mr. Chairman. I

526
00:38:19,054 --> 00:38:22,857
think it was dead on. Very, very well done. Mr.

527
00:38:22,897 --> 00:38:28,381
Fauci, do you know who David Shurtler is? On the

528
00:38:28,421 --> 00:38:31,703
advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon

529
00:38:31,803 --> 00:38:37,487
my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Fifth

530
00:38:37,567 --> 00:38:40,169
Amendment of the Constitution. What does the Fifth Amendment of

531
00:38:40,169 --> 00:38:46,993
the Constitution say? eyes. silence as Fauci is like going

532
00:38:47,053 --> 00:38:51,436
back to his lawyers. On the advice of counsel, I

533
00:38:51,456 --> 00:38:54,458
respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the

534
00:38:54,478 --> 00:38:57,720
Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. No, I'm just asking you

535
00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:01,443
what it says. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully

536
00:39:01,503 --> 00:39:04,125
decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth

537
00:39:04,185 --> 00:39:08,027
Amendment to the Constitution. I'm going to give the Constitution

538
00:39:08,107 --> 00:39:09,588
to my aide. He'll bring it over to you so

539
00:39:09,688 --> 00:39:11,790
you can have it for future reference. I think it's

540
00:39:12,791 --> 00:39:15,092
something that every American should know what the Constitution says.

541
00:39:15,432 --> 00:39:18,514
Do you know who wrote the Fifth Amendment? On the

542
00:39:18,594 --> 00:39:21,716
advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon

543
00:39:21,797 --> 00:39:24,598
my rights on the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. So

544
00:39:24,658 --> 00:39:26,960
you're invoking a right that you don't know who wrote

545
00:39:26,980 --> 00:39:31,303
it or what it says. Is that correct? Yes. Which?

546
00:39:32,904 --> 00:39:36,346
Very weird. Very weird times. Somebody has to come up

547
00:39:36,406 --> 00:39:43,091
with some kind of a musical audio mix of the

548
00:39:43,151 --> 00:39:47,754
encyclopedia for 2026. And it's people asking all the mysterious,

549
00:39:47,794 --> 00:39:51,416
you know, solve the mystery of the Holy Trinity. Is

550
00:39:51,436 --> 00:39:54,458
there a God? And then every answer is Fauci reciting

551
00:39:55,139 --> 00:39:59,042
that line. Yeah, and Fox put this together. I think

552
00:39:59,142 --> 00:40:59,862
Fox has been listening. What do you want to bet

553
00:40:59,943 --> 00:41:02,604
that very soon, maybe right now, people are being pulled

554
00:41:02,684 --> 00:41:04,926
over on the side of the road for traffic infractions

555
00:41:04,946 --> 00:41:08,048
when the cop says, license is registration, they're reciting the

556
00:41:08,108 --> 00:41:11,931
Fifth Amendment. I guarantee that's going to happen. I mean,

557
00:41:11,931 --> 00:41:14,472
you want to know your rights. There's no question about

558
00:41:14,552 --> 00:41:19,015
that, but... It'll be fun to see where that goes,

559
00:41:19,115 --> 00:41:22,798
if there is any kind of legal repercussion. I mean,

560
00:41:22,878 --> 00:41:25,139
we know the Republicans are going to try to get

561
00:41:25,179 --> 00:41:29,662
it. I doubt they're going to get anything. But if

562
00:41:29,763 --> 00:41:32,164
you have been pardoned and the law says, well, then

563
00:41:32,264 --> 00:41:37,188
if you're called before. Congress you are compa- you know

564
00:41:37,348 --> 00:41:42,231
compelled to answer then... You would be compelled to answer.

565
00:41:44,172 --> 00:41:46,474
He looked terrified. And I was also thinking, the guy's

566
00:41:46,494 --> 00:41:49,356
85 years old. As Bobby the K told us, he

567
00:41:49,436 --> 00:41:53,679
had a pulmonary infarction. Right. That's no joke. And, you

568
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,761
know, he's an old guy. And I thought he could

569
00:41:57,941 --> 00:42:01,024
just kind of wink out right there at the desk.

570
00:42:01,644 --> 00:42:06,267
And then would Josh Hawley be charged with negligent homicide?

571
00:42:06,427 --> 00:42:11,290
According to the Democrats, yes. Of course, yeah. I just

572
00:42:11,350 --> 00:42:13,732
don't understand because there seems, if this is a personal

573
00:42:13,732 --> 00:42:17,034
dialogue, We have to assume that what the man wrote

574
00:42:17,154 --> 00:42:21,998
in it is legitimate and true. And if there are

575
00:42:22,018 --> 00:42:25,140
things in there that cause people to question the way

576
00:42:25,260 --> 00:42:31,504
he handled. the COVID thing, well... That's important because it

577
00:42:31,804 --> 00:42:34,966
did have an effect on everybody in the country and

578
00:42:35,026 --> 00:42:39,810
beyond. Oh, yeah. So many businesses got screwed. So many

579
00:42:40,010 --> 00:42:42,271
people couldn't go to church. I mean, that was the

580
00:42:42,391 --> 00:42:45,333
one that still sticks out of, I don't remember where

581
00:42:45,413 --> 00:42:48,856
it was, but the people having church outside, standing six

582
00:42:48,976 --> 00:42:51,598
feet apart, and still that being broken up because you

583
00:42:51,678 --> 00:42:56,861
know the science. How many military guys got canned from

584
00:42:57,281 --> 00:42:59,883
the service because they wouldn't take the vax and kids

585
00:43:00,023 --> 00:43:04,066
thrown out of schools? And it was just the reverberations

586
00:43:04,106 --> 00:43:06,287
of this were incredible, not to mention all the ones

587
00:43:06,287 --> 00:43:09,409
that also had pulmonary infarctions and seizures and so on.

588
00:43:09,450 --> 00:43:12,672
It was unbelievable. He is an evil little prick. I'll

589
00:43:12,692 --> 00:43:16,254
say that. He is. No, he's the science, Larry. Oh,

590
00:43:16,314 --> 00:43:19,136
that's, excuse me. He is the, oh yeah. And for

591
00:43:19,276 --> 00:43:27,622
me, again, the soliciting money, part is the, I mean,

592
00:43:27,682 --> 00:43:31,344
it really is a you know, Dr. Evil right out

593
00:43:31,404 --> 00:43:36,308
of a bad comedy movie that's, you know. Hard to

594
00:43:36,368 --> 00:43:41,751
believe. And again, as a guy who was... quite up

595
00:43:41,831 --> 00:43:43,813
there in age even at the time it's like why

596
00:43:43,873 --> 00:43:46,775
are you soliciting money for what you've already made a

597
00:43:46,835 --> 00:43:48,916
lot of money in your life as far as i

598
00:43:49,056 --> 00:43:51,878
know he's made a lot of money off the aids

599
00:43:51,958 --> 00:43:53,999
the drugs and things that have come out there's a

600
00:43:54,019 --> 00:43:56,361
lot of these things you get a percent even if

601
00:43:56,421 --> 00:44:00,424
you're a public employee which is very weird Yeah, I'd

602
00:44:00,424 --> 00:44:03,506
love to know because, you know, you go online and

603
00:44:03,546 --> 00:44:06,008
say, you know, what's so-and-so's net worth? It might be

604
00:44:06,108 --> 00:44:09,210
off by 2,000%. You know, you never know. I saw

605
00:44:09,250 --> 00:44:11,371
one that said he was somewhere between $8 and $11

606
00:44:11,471 --> 00:44:14,633
million, which sounds low because I can remember people saying

607
00:44:15,074 --> 00:44:19,036
that he maybe had or was a party to something

608
00:44:19,036 --> 00:44:21,878
like 100 different medical patents. Yeah, I would think that

609
00:44:21,898 --> 00:44:24,600
would be very lucrative, but, you know, I'd like to

610
00:44:24,620 --> 00:44:26,802
know. I don't know, but it'd be fascinating. And I

611
00:44:26,802 --> 00:44:30,484
was quite interested that they could only, track. I think

612
00:44:30,544 --> 00:44:34,707
it was 600. thousand somebody i thought that maybe 600

613
00:44:34,867 --> 00:44:41,151
million to uh the Wuhan labs, which again, Fauci denied

614
00:44:41,231 --> 00:44:43,473
that at first. There was a lot of things that...

615
00:44:44,613 --> 00:44:46,535
Wait a minute, you're telling me that's the amount of

616
00:44:46,595 --> 00:44:49,577
money that Fauci had piped into that lab? Correct. 600

617
00:44:49,617 --> 00:44:53,459
mil? I mean, I think somebody said 600,000, so I

618
00:44:54,140 --> 00:44:57,242
may be misremembering. So don't quote me on that. Unlike

619
00:44:57,302 --> 00:44:59,884
the mainstream media, when I don't know something, I'll be

620
00:44:59,924 --> 00:45:00,004
like...

621
00:45:00,036 --> 00:45:01,637
You know, I heard something, but it may be wrong.

622
00:45:01,657 --> 00:45:06,320
We're doing a live show. The numbers can be jumbled

623
00:45:06,380 --> 00:45:09,322
up at times. But either way, they originally said no

624
00:45:09,442 --> 00:45:13,285
money went there. Oh, yeah. They wanted to hide where

625
00:45:13,365 --> 00:45:15,106
it came from. And again, this could have been the

626
00:45:15,166 --> 00:45:20,009
time. And I don't know if I believe. Rand Paul,

627
00:45:20,109 --> 00:45:23,091
who said, paraphrasing, you know, hey, if you would have

628
00:45:23,111 --> 00:45:25,793
just apologized, if you would have just admitted that, you

629
00:45:25,813 --> 00:45:27,594
know, you were in over your skis. I know you

630
00:45:27,634 --> 00:45:31,417
hate that. So I said that. Thank you. We could

631
00:45:31,457 --> 00:45:33,698
have a Dave Ramsey clip now, too. We could have

632
00:45:33,738 --> 00:45:38,041
just gone our merry way. And Fauci couldn't have been,

633
00:45:38,081 --> 00:45:40,743
as long as he told the truth. I don't know

634
00:45:41,063 --> 00:45:44,966
how they were going to legally get him after the

635
00:45:45,066 --> 00:45:49,189
immunity that he has. But he doesn't even want to

636
00:45:49,229 --> 00:45:55,633
take responsibility for the things. that he's been. outed for.

637
00:45:55,673 --> 00:45:59,696
Yeah. And that's just kind of sad. And the Republicans,

638
00:45:59,736 --> 00:46:04,399
all they have again is to take his reputation. and

639
00:46:04,479 --> 00:46:08,682
do what they can to ruin his legacy. And I

640
00:46:08,782 --> 00:46:11,144
think they did all right. But again, half the media

641
00:46:11,224 --> 00:46:13,065
is going to report to you that the Republicans are

642
00:46:13,125 --> 00:46:16,167
big, bad people and don't pay any attention to what

643
00:46:16,307 --> 00:46:21,130
this guy wrote in his diary. Yes, that's correct. Now,

644
00:46:21,150 --> 00:46:22,671
do you have anything else on Fauci? I mean, I

645
00:46:22,731 --> 00:46:25,453
think we actually got more coverage there than you actually

646
00:46:25,493 --> 00:46:29,816
got from Fauci during the hours that he sat there

647
00:46:29,856 --> 00:46:32,798
repeating the same. Why can't we make a living just

648
00:46:32,878 --> 00:46:35,840
reciting the same paragraph over and over again? It's going

649
00:46:35,860 --> 00:46:40,844
to be fun. Yeah, it'll be an easy layup. Speaking

650
00:46:40,924 --> 00:46:46,007
of layup, this is just a little amuse-bouche for the

651
00:46:46,147 --> 00:46:50,230
left again. This was a story that hit the Seattle

652
00:46:50,370 --> 00:46:53,692
Storm owner who's in the WNBA. I know everybody in

653
00:46:53,772 --> 00:46:58,776
no agenda world loves sports ball. But Sophie Cunningham, as

654
00:46:58,876 --> 00:47:01,437
we've talked about before, you know, a very pointy chick

655
00:47:01,537 --> 00:47:07,341
who decided that, one, it was okay to talk about

656
00:47:07,401 --> 00:47:10,143
being religious, which when it comes to being in the

657
00:47:10,443 --> 00:47:15,727
WNBA. Man, that's bad. That's bad. And has talked about

658
00:47:15,747 --> 00:47:18,769
the fact that she doesn't think it's right that somebody

659
00:47:18,829 --> 00:47:23,372
that is biologically born a male should be able to

660
00:47:23,572 --> 00:47:30,197
play against girls in sports. It seems... normal to anybody

661
00:47:30,337 --> 00:47:34,820
that can think and understand why Bob Costas We had

662
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,881
a clip over on Planet Rage at one point. Bob

663
00:47:36,961 --> 00:47:41,564
Costas saying, well, there's a reason why. You have a

664
00:47:41,724 --> 00:47:45,607
male who was 450th in the swimming rankings as a

665
00:47:45,647 --> 00:47:48,789
guy going into the female rankings and going right to

666
00:47:48,849 --> 00:47:52,712
the top. But we've never had the opposite. No, and

667
00:47:52,752 --> 00:47:55,454
there's a reason why Sugar Ray Leonard never fought Mike

668
00:47:55,474 --> 00:47:58,456
Tyson. It's a thing called weight class, and size matters.

669
00:47:58,956 --> 00:48:02,939
Yes, it does. And... So these two 16 year old

670
00:48:02,979 --> 00:48:08,623
girls were wearing t-shirts from an organization that wants only

671
00:48:08,723 --> 00:48:12,785
females in female sports. Crazy stuff. Imagine that. The nerve.

672
00:48:13,586 --> 00:48:17,108
And they were rooting for both teams. And they had

673
00:48:17,208 --> 00:48:22,792
signs that they love Sophie Cunningham. And. An old woman

674
00:48:22,912 --> 00:48:26,114
came up and yelled at them so much that it

675
00:48:26,134 --> 00:48:30,377
made them cry. And that woman was the owner of

676
00:48:30,457 --> 00:48:33,779
the Seattle Storm where they were in the... So this

677
00:48:33,900 --> 00:48:37,102
is them, just a brief clip. Okay. We were just

678
00:48:37,102 --> 00:48:39,663
sitting there with our signs that said, like, we love

679
00:48:39,743 --> 00:48:42,245
Sophie, like, thank you Sophie for speaking up. And so

680
00:48:42,245 --> 00:48:44,086
we were holding on, just watching the game again. We

681
00:48:44,206 --> 00:48:46,748
were being super great. We hadn't said anything to anyone

682
00:48:46,808 --> 00:48:48,509
else. We were being super respectful. We were just holding

683
00:48:48,529 --> 00:48:50,951
our signs and cheering for both teams. And this lady,

684
00:48:51,091 --> 00:48:53,673
older lady, comes up to us. And she comes up

685
00:48:53,673 --> 00:48:55,114
to us, and at first I think she's going to

686
00:48:55,154 --> 00:48:57,515
be nice. And then she asks, like, What are you

687
00:48:57,535 --> 00:48:59,577
guys doing? Something like that. And then it was like...

688
00:49:00,377 --> 00:49:02,539
Jesus loves everyone. That's what she told us. And I

689
00:49:02,539 --> 00:49:04,600
was like, oh, I know. Like, I'm really just like,

690
00:49:04,660 --> 00:49:08,263
I know. I know. Yeah. And she's like, I hope

691
00:49:08,323 --> 00:49:10,584
Jesus can forgive you for what sin you've done. And

692
00:49:10,644 --> 00:49:12,145
like something like that. And then she told us that

693
00:49:12,185 --> 00:49:16,208
we were effing insane. And she went like this. Yeah.

694
00:49:16,288 --> 00:49:19,991
Wait, wait, wait. Stop. Did she say she told us

695
00:49:19,991 --> 00:49:24,534
we were effing insane? Yes. I love that. There you

696
00:49:24,534 --> 00:49:27,215
go. That's classic. You know, this is you want to

697
00:49:27,315 --> 00:49:31,758
invoke the name of the Lord and then tell somebody

698
00:49:31,818 --> 00:49:35,601
that. We hope they can forgive you and you're effing

699
00:49:35,681 --> 00:49:38,983
insane. There you go. That's perfect. And these are 16-year-old

700
00:49:39,063 --> 00:49:42,606
girls. I mean, the video of their interview, it's obvious

701
00:49:42,766 --> 00:49:44,947
that they are high school girls. They are not, you

702
00:49:45,047 --> 00:49:48,970
know, adults. So this old lady, this battle axe that

703
00:49:49,050 --> 00:49:52,813
owns the Seattle Storm, thought it was important enough to

704
00:49:52,953 --> 00:49:57,656
go. and lambast these girls. It's like, what world are

705
00:49:57,716 --> 00:50:00,578
we living in for saying, hey, I don't think boys

706
00:50:00,598 --> 00:50:03,640
should play in girls sports. Well, I'm going to raise

707
00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:07,122
a beef here that I've had for decades, Darren. And

708
00:50:07,582 --> 00:50:11,125
it just bugs me, like getting over your skis. And

709
00:50:11,165 --> 00:50:14,427
the fact is these young girls said, this lady came

710
00:50:14,527 --> 00:50:17,069
over to us and spoke. You called her a lady.

711
00:50:17,069 --> 00:50:21,752
And no, a lady is a woman who's kind of

712
00:50:21,832 --> 00:50:25,475
classy and genteel. A woman is just a woman. This

713
00:50:25,595 --> 00:50:29,097
is just a female. And clearly this woman, this cranky

714
00:50:29,257 --> 00:50:34,260
bag, was no lady. No lady whatsoever. And people, the

715
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,542
other way they do this, there was a hell of

716
00:50:36,602 --> 00:50:38,984
a, oh my God, it was a front page crime

717
00:50:39,044 --> 00:50:42,546
case probably six or eight years ago somewhere in upstate

718
00:50:42,606 --> 00:50:47,049
New York. A couple of dirtbags escaped some prison and

719
00:50:47,089 --> 00:50:49,731
went on a rampage. And it was like unbelievable. They

720
00:50:50,011 --> 00:50:52,873
beheaded people. They burned them alive. It was just, it

721
00:50:52,913 --> 00:50:58,597
was horrific, horrific story. And the head cop that chased

722
00:50:58,637 --> 00:51:01,539
these guys down and found them gave like a three-minute

723
00:51:01,619 --> 00:51:06,362
statement on his journey bringing them to justice. And every

724
00:51:06,962 --> 00:51:10,505
ninth word he had to describe these two turds was

725
00:51:11,165 --> 00:51:16,869
these gentlemen. Right? These gentlemen beheaded the man. Then these

726
00:51:16,909 --> 00:51:21,272
gentlemen burned the other person's eyes out. These gentlemen. God,

727
00:51:21,432 --> 00:51:24,434
everybody, stop doing that. Man is a man, not necessarily

728
00:51:24,454 --> 00:51:27,616
a gentleman. Same thing for ladies and women. And I'm

729
00:51:27,736 --> 00:51:30,618
just going to do a Dvorak-type call-out and ask you,

730
00:51:30,658 --> 00:51:32,740
was it Henny Youngman that did the old, that's not

731
00:51:32,820 --> 00:51:35,842
my lady, that's my wife, was that the line? Henny

732
00:51:35,902 --> 00:51:38,964
used to say, take my wife, please. But I don't

733
00:51:38,964 --> 00:51:40,805
remember the lady thing with Hen. That might have been,

734
00:51:40,865 --> 00:51:44,788
I don't know, I missed that one. I'm only 55,

735
00:51:44,848 --> 00:51:48,310
I swear I shouldn't know Henny Youngman, but I watch

736
00:51:48,450 --> 00:51:51,072
way too much old TV and listen to old radio

737
00:51:51,192 --> 00:51:54,254
shows, I guess. Well, that's the best stuff. Yeah, Dobie

738
00:51:54,314 --> 00:51:58,277
Gillis. I love Dobie Gillis, man. I never saw one

739
00:51:58,377 --> 00:52:01,119
second of Dobie Gillis. In fact, it took me until

740
00:52:01,179 --> 00:52:04,381
Gilligan's Island to discover who he was, but I never

741
00:52:04,401 --> 00:52:07,403
saw that. Bob Denver, yeah. Bob Denver, Gilligan. Bob Denver

742
00:52:07,843 --> 00:52:09,564
wearing a bucket hat. Don't ever wear a bucket hat.

743
00:52:09,905 --> 00:52:11,886
Never ever. The skipper had a cool lid, and the

744
00:52:11,886 --> 00:52:14,128
skipper was cool. Gilligan was an idiot because he wore

745
00:52:14,148 --> 00:52:17,370
a bucket hat. It's that simple. That's the look. You

746
00:52:17,450 --> 00:52:19,371
see a lot of bucket hats on people in, like,

747
00:52:19,451 --> 00:52:22,313
Portland and that area. Why is that? I don't know.

748
00:52:22,453 --> 00:52:26,516
That's true. Adelaide. The Memrose. Solve the mystery of the

749
00:52:26,536 --> 00:52:29,718
bucket hat, please. Why so many bucket hats? What's the

750
00:52:29,778 --> 00:52:32,780
point? I don't know. Then there's bucket head. He took

751
00:52:32,860 --> 00:52:34,901
it to another level, didn't he? True, but that was

752
00:52:34,982 --> 00:52:38,484
like a KFC thing he put on. He plays really

753
00:52:38,504 --> 00:52:42,407
good guitar. He's really damn good. That's the beauty of

754
00:52:42,467 --> 00:52:44,688
it. You just have a shtick, but if you could

755
00:52:44,728 --> 00:52:48,411
also back it up. Yes. Now a guy that's been

756
00:52:48,471 --> 00:52:51,613
backing it up is Elon Musk. Oh, right. I like

757
00:52:51,733 --> 00:52:55,055
Elon. As we kind of move into the AI category

758
00:52:55,055 --> 00:53:00,559
because AI is everywhere. There's a lot of misunderstanding about

759
00:53:00,639 --> 00:53:05,622
AI and I think what Elon is. Putting out here,

760
00:53:05,662 --> 00:53:10,325
this is from The Economist in an interview. I don't

761
00:53:10,605 --> 00:53:15,409
think he is absolutely correct in what he says, but

762
00:53:15,449 --> 00:53:17,350
we'll let him say it. We'll tell him he's wrong

763
00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:21,753
if he's wrong. Yes. I think. AI may exceed the

764
00:53:21,793 --> 00:53:28,918
sum of human intelligence. Right? There's the wrong buzzer. But

765
00:53:29,098 --> 00:53:35,422
what is intelligence? In about, in around five years. In

766
00:53:35,522 --> 00:53:40,846
five years? Roughly five years is my guess. um So

767
00:53:42,127 --> 00:53:45,869
There really won't be anything that AI... can't do better

768
00:53:45,909 --> 00:53:48,811
than humans, apart from being human, perhaps. In a more

769
00:53:48,831 --> 00:53:54,695
prosaic level, what will life be like? The most likely

770
00:53:54,775 --> 00:54:02,921
outcome is an age of amazing abundance where Anyone can

771
00:54:03,001 --> 00:54:07,844
have anything they can think of. This may sound preposterous,

772
00:54:07,924 --> 00:54:12,007
but... Well, here we are in 2026. Let's see where

773
00:54:12,027 --> 00:54:14,288
we stand in 2036. Now, of course, there are things

774
00:54:14,328 --> 00:54:19,492
that could... derail this like a massive global thermonuclear war

775
00:54:19,572 --> 00:54:23,494
or something like that. Just something very small like global

776
00:54:23,554 --> 00:54:26,917
thermonuclear war. Some trifle like that. Hey, Elon, back off

777
00:54:26,957 --> 00:54:29,779
the ketamine, baby. Really. That's a, yeah, that's a slight

778
00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:32,581
thing happening if you have the nuclear war and the

779
00:54:32,601 --> 00:54:36,903
whole, oh, you can. be better at everything except being

780
00:54:37,064 --> 00:54:43,868
human no because they still can't. think yeah well you

781
00:54:43,908 --> 00:54:47,230
know continue i'm sorry but assuming that there's not world

782
00:54:47,270 --> 00:54:51,713
war three I think I think we're headed for an

783
00:54:51,854 --> 00:54:54,335
age of amazing abundance. So this is, I guess, a

784
00:54:54,395 --> 00:55:00,559
message of optimism. and excitement about the future. You're sure

785
00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:02,981
that humans will no longer be in control in 10

786
00:55:03,001 --> 00:55:07,124
years time? I think it is unlikely. In the same

787
00:55:07,164 --> 00:55:11,407
way that if you had a vastly... more like, you

788
00:55:13,068 --> 00:55:20,333
know. Bleh. Like if the difference in intelligence between AI

789
00:55:21,113 --> 00:55:24,215
and humans is vastly greater than the difference in intelligence

790
00:55:24,275 --> 00:55:28,818
between AI and chimpanzees, it's hard to imagine that the

791
00:55:28,818 --> 00:55:32,841
chimpanzees would be in charge. I'm really struck by this.

792
00:55:32,881 --> 00:55:34,902
They are right now. Right. And we are essentially an

793
00:55:34,982 --> 00:55:39,005
evolved form of chimpanzee. So it wasn't that long ago

794
00:55:39,245 --> 00:55:43,388
that we were swinging through the trees, eating bananas in

795
00:55:43,428 --> 00:55:48,832
the jungle. And we still eat bananas. What? Okay, Elon.

796
00:55:49,072 --> 00:55:52,935
So, okay, Elon, yeah. Well, I say this about that,

797
00:55:52,955 --> 00:55:56,657
about Elon, about that, Darren. There's no doubting the guy's

798
00:55:56,717 --> 00:55:59,579
a brilliant dude, unquestioned. You can't, you know, that's a

799
00:56:00,340 --> 00:56:04,342
stone fact. And I think people overlook he's also a

800
00:56:04,482 --> 00:56:07,704
hell of a salesman. His business career would never have

801
00:56:07,744 --> 00:56:09,646
got to the point it is now were he not.

802
00:56:10,406 --> 00:56:12,808
And I witnessed that when he rolled out the first

803
00:56:13,308 --> 00:56:16,751
debut of the Cybertruck. I don't know if you saw

804
00:56:16,871 --> 00:56:19,512
this, but it was a big, big place, whatever the

805
00:56:19,532 --> 00:56:23,275
hell this arena was where he introduced this truck. And

806
00:56:23,295 --> 00:56:24,716
they rolled it out on stage, and then he gave

807
00:56:24,716 --> 00:56:26,557
a little rap about it, about this and that, and

808
00:56:26,657 --> 00:56:29,899
it's, you know, it's harder steel, faster, cooler, stronger, whatever.

809
00:56:29,959 --> 00:56:32,121
And he also mentioned, I believe that he said it

810
00:56:32,141 --> 00:56:36,023
had bulletproof glass. And to prove his point... He was

811
00:56:36,044 --> 00:56:39,546
hefting what looked like a ball bearing, but the size

812
00:56:39,606 --> 00:56:43,509
of a softball. And he whipped it at the passenger

813
00:56:43,609 --> 00:56:49,252
window with all his might and shattered it. Oops. Oops.

814
00:56:49,272 --> 00:56:52,174
You know, and, you know, a lesser salesman would have

815
00:56:52,234 --> 00:56:55,036
just crawled under the truck, you know, but he kind

816
00:56:55,096 --> 00:56:56,998
of turned around and laughed and said something. Well, we'll

817
00:56:56,998 --> 00:56:58,198
have to work on it a little bit. You know,

818
00:56:58,198 --> 00:57:01,341
and people roared. They loved him. And I suspect some

819
00:57:01,381 --> 00:57:04,343
of those sales. these techniques are coming out in this,

820
00:57:04,523 --> 00:57:09,326
this, what you just played, you know? Yes. AI at

821
00:57:09,506 --> 00:57:15,270
a certain level is a parlor trick. It is dependent

822
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:18,392
on the data that it has going in. If it's

823
00:57:18,532 --> 00:57:24,376
learning. about a subject. and it's getting that information from

824
00:57:24,996 --> 00:57:29,419
X or from Reddit, well... then it's going to give

825
00:57:29,459 --> 00:57:37,145
you some very inaccurate. answers because it cannot actually think.

826
00:57:37,385 --> 00:57:40,427
That is the one thing that a lot of people

827
00:57:40,507 --> 00:57:44,129
still will not wrap their brain around, which is the

828
00:57:44,289 --> 00:57:47,772
AI cannot think. Now, it can do a certain amount

829
00:57:48,372 --> 00:57:55,777
of problem solving. but it doesn't understand the world around

830
00:57:55,857 --> 00:57:59,339
it or why things happen. One of the best examples

831
00:57:59,420 --> 00:58:03,722
of this was a winning piece of AI art for

832
00:58:03,963 --> 00:58:06,144
No Agenda a few episodes back. I didn't do it,

833
00:58:06,204 --> 00:58:11,528
sadly. But it was of a glass office door. That

834
00:58:11,648 --> 00:58:16,971
said, no agenda. We take AI tokens. And... I wanted

835
00:58:17,011 --> 00:58:19,233
to make that into a video using Grok, which is

836
00:58:19,333 --> 00:58:22,195
one of the better video models out right now. May

837
00:58:22,275 --> 00:58:26,137
not be quite C-dance, but it's pretty good. And I'm

838
00:58:26,178 --> 00:58:30,260
like, well, we want the pointy girl to come open

839
00:58:30,300 --> 00:58:35,043
the door, walk out and say whatever it was. And

840
00:58:35,144 --> 00:58:41,688
I tried. Five to seven times. And most of the

841
00:58:41,768 --> 00:58:46,771
time. She reached through the glass to open the handle

842
00:58:46,831 --> 00:58:49,913
that you could see on the front, which was the

843
00:58:49,974 --> 00:58:53,996
perspective you had. It didn't understand that while human hands

844
00:58:54,016 --> 00:58:56,198
shouldn't be able to just go through that glass to

845
00:58:56,338 --> 00:58:59,200
open it. Right. And then the wrong side of the

846
00:58:59,220 --> 00:59:02,082
door was opening. There are so many things that will

847
00:59:02,242 --> 00:59:05,604
show you. If you work with AI, which is why

848
00:59:05,744 --> 00:59:08,866
I recommend people do work with AI to understand what

849
00:59:08,946 --> 00:59:12,969
it can and can't do. for coding, oh, it does

850
00:59:13,029 --> 00:59:15,871
great because it has so much information. It has so

851
00:59:15,971 --> 00:59:19,814
much data. And if you give it good data. Well,

852
00:59:19,894 --> 00:59:23,056
when you type in, hey, I want a username and

853
00:59:23,116 --> 00:59:25,858
password thing so people can log in, it knows how

854
00:59:25,918 --> 00:59:30,201
to do that. But it's confused by a woman putting

855
00:59:30,261 --> 00:59:32,642
her hand through a glass panel to open the door

856
00:59:33,323 --> 00:59:37,946
on the other side of where she's standing. Yes. It's

857
00:59:37,946 --> 00:59:42,949
like AI is not magic. No, it's not. You know,

858
00:59:42,989 --> 00:59:47,492
I think... Have you seen the film Forbidden Planet? Not

859
00:59:47,592 --> 00:59:50,734
recently. Oh, okay. So you know it, though. That was

860
00:59:50,854 --> 00:59:54,897
really the Rosetta Stone for all science fiction since it

861
00:59:55,057 --> 00:59:58,299
came out, probably, I don't know, 1950, early 50s sometime.

862
00:59:59,620 --> 01:00:00,001
And that's really.

863
01:00:00,073 --> 01:00:02,674
It was an AI story, really, before somebody had coined

864
01:00:02,694 --> 01:00:06,157
the phrase. Walter Pigeon and the very pointy Anne Francis.

865
01:00:07,077 --> 01:00:10,319
The uniforms were ripped off blatantly by Star Trek, sort

866
01:00:10,339 --> 01:00:12,441
of ray guns. I mean, it was incredible. I mean,

867
01:00:12,441 --> 01:00:15,263
they just set the bar for all of it. And

868
01:00:15,623 --> 01:00:17,444
it ended badly. That's what I'll tell you. I don't

869
01:00:17,444 --> 01:00:19,746
want to be a spoiler. Or a movie from the

870
01:00:19,746 --> 01:00:22,908
50s. It didn't work out real well, AI. It just

871
01:00:22,948 --> 01:00:26,190
didn't, you know. Well, the fact that he's telling us

872
01:00:26,350 --> 01:00:31,374
this is going to be in five years, you Some

873
01:00:31,814 --> 01:00:37,137
massive leaps. Yeah. And I also want to understand why

874
01:00:37,238 --> 01:00:40,780
this is okay for the planet and the amount of

875
01:00:40,820 --> 01:00:43,242
electricity. It's like I'm kind of in a third world

876
01:00:43,342 --> 01:00:46,904
country in Illinois now when the storms come through. What

877
01:00:46,924 --> 01:00:48,725
do you mean kind of? I know. I totally am.

878
01:00:48,945 --> 01:00:51,807
And I've got it. Like you escaped from California. You

879
01:00:51,907 --> 01:00:55,130
were smart. Well, thank you. But I've got to escape

880
01:00:55,250 --> 01:00:59,813
from Illinois at some point as well. You shall. Since

881
01:00:59,833 --> 01:01:03,395
these devices can't actually think yet, the fact that Elon

882
01:01:03,475 --> 01:01:07,758
thinks they're going to be running things, how? Whose playbook

883
01:01:08,378 --> 01:01:11,901
is the government of the AI bots going to go

884
01:01:12,041 --> 01:01:15,323
to? Are they going to go to the Constitution of

885
01:01:15,363 --> 01:01:17,124
the United States or are they going to go to,

886
01:01:17,224 --> 01:01:21,868
you know, Marx? Or Lennon. But Elon, I mean, I

887
01:01:21,948 --> 01:01:26,210
get it. He is a dreamer. And he says there

888
01:01:26,250 --> 01:01:29,953
is the killer robot risk. So, uh, no, sure. Skynet,

889
01:01:30,013 --> 01:01:33,015
baby. Yes. There's a 10 to 20% chance of killer

890
01:01:33,035 --> 01:01:36,537
robots wiping out humanity. Yeah. So you sounded worried then.

891
01:01:37,238 --> 01:01:39,719
Now you seem very relaxed about it. Have you? Yeah.

892
01:01:39,740 --> 01:01:41,301
I mean, you would think of that. That's a pretty

893
01:01:41,381 --> 01:01:43,642
high number. It is a high number. I don't like

894
01:01:43,682 --> 01:01:46,524
those odds. A 10 to 20% that, no, just, I

895
01:01:46,604 --> 01:01:48,686
mean, it might just be killer robots. I mean, if

896
01:01:48,846 --> 01:01:52,228
once they build the robot bodies and then put the

897
01:01:52,388 --> 01:01:55,310
AIs into them, I mean, sure. They may just try

898
01:01:55,370 --> 01:01:59,573
to kill humanity. Let's check Polymarket for these predictions, Darren.

899
01:02:00,313 --> 01:02:02,755
Rich! Oh, by the way, I told you about Fauci.

900
01:02:02,875 --> 01:02:04,876
When he first broke, it was like 50%. Now it's

901
01:02:04,936 --> 01:02:07,138
like 12%. I think he'll be convicted. It's nothing going

902
01:02:07,138 --> 01:02:10,180
to happen. Well, no, because he's just taking the... What

903
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,021
are you going to convict him on? He's got a

904
01:02:12,742 --> 01:02:18,165
pardon for everything. Prior to now. So you have to

905
01:02:18,165 --> 01:02:20,787
understand how the legal system works. The only way they

906
01:02:20,807 --> 01:02:22,388
were going to catch him on something is if he

907
01:02:22,528 --> 01:02:26,471
decided to spill his guts and then they can prove

908
01:02:26,631 --> 01:02:29,673
that he lied. But there's no way he's not a

909
01:02:29,793 --> 01:02:33,656
dumb man. No, he's not. So when you know all

910
01:02:33,716 --> 01:02:37,398
that information in your diary is out there. Well, if

911
01:02:37,458 --> 01:02:40,680
you lie, you're just an idiot. if it can be

912
01:02:40,781 --> 01:02:43,783
proven that, you know, no, just don't say anything at

913
01:02:43,843 --> 01:02:47,725
all. I get it. Now you seem very relaxed about

914
01:02:47,825 --> 01:02:50,287
it. Have you changed your view? I still think there's

915
01:02:50,287 --> 01:02:54,670
risk. associated with AI and robots. It's not zero. I

916
01:02:55,490 --> 01:03:01,474
guess I've come to... My sort of philosophical conclusion is

917
01:03:01,615 --> 01:03:06,398
to look on the bright side. Um... I can't see

918
01:03:06,438 --> 01:03:11,321
any way to really stop this incredible momentum of AI

919
01:03:11,381 --> 01:03:15,384
and robots. And at times I sort of think, well,

920
01:03:15,864 --> 01:03:18,266
perhaps, you know, even if there was a stop button,

921
01:03:18,926 --> 01:03:24,990
we probably shouldn't press it. because Because the most likely

922
01:03:25,070 --> 01:03:32,355
outcome is... incredible abundance for all. That's what I thought

923
01:03:32,435 --> 01:03:34,397
actually. It struck me that now you seem to have

924
01:03:34,897 --> 01:03:39,140
decided it's inevitable. Let's hope for the best and go

925
01:03:39,220 --> 01:03:44,683
for the ride. Yeah, I mean... Yes, pretty much. Let's...

926
01:03:45,824 --> 01:03:49,066
Let's enjoy the ride. That's my philosophy at this point.

927
01:03:49,647 --> 01:03:53,549
What do you think he means? AI is somehow going

928
01:03:53,609 --> 01:03:58,333
to bring abundance for all. Abundance of what? He needs

929
01:03:58,413 --> 01:04:00,694
to talk to Mamdami about this so he can stop

930
01:04:00,914 --> 01:04:03,936
the rent control. Obviously, everybody in New York is going

931
01:04:03,956 --> 01:04:08,740
to be living like, you know. The ultra wealthy, right?

932
01:04:08,820 --> 01:04:12,862
Incredible abundance. It sounds glorious, doesn't it? I mean, AI

933
01:04:12,982 --> 01:04:18,206
can provide you with entertainment. I think the models are

934
01:04:18,226 --> 01:04:21,708
going to continue to get better. where you will be

935
01:04:21,888 --> 01:04:25,731
able to go into your chat bot if you have

936
01:04:25,931 --> 01:04:32,295
one and say, oh, my kids really like dinosaurs and

937
01:04:32,416 --> 01:04:37,579
trains. So create a cartoon around these two things. And

938
01:04:37,659 --> 01:04:42,502
it'll do it. And it'll be okay. I mean, broadcast

939
01:04:42,562 --> 01:04:47,666
television lately is no prize. lately. You know, I mean,

940
01:04:47,766 --> 01:04:50,027
so that I think it can do. I think it'll

941
01:04:50,788 --> 01:04:54,590
be able to write long form stories. We've already had

942
01:04:54,751 --> 01:05:00,835
a few cases. where somebody submitted a story unbeknownst to

943
01:05:00,895 --> 01:05:07,039
the people holding the competition. four writers, and one... only

944
01:05:07,119 --> 01:05:10,281
to be outed as AI writing. So there's no question

945
01:05:10,361 --> 01:05:15,304
that people are already reading AI-generated stories and liking them,

946
01:05:15,625 --> 01:05:18,266
I guess, if they're winning awards and the one woman

947
01:05:18,326 --> 01:05:21,368
in the UK had a publishing contract that was then...

948
01:05:22,649 --> 01:05:25,651
taken back once it came out that she used AI

949
01:05:25,771 --> 01:05:30,475
to write the book. But the book was selling. As

950
01:05:30,595 --> 01:05:33,116
an independent author, it was selling enough that she got

951
01:05:33,116 --> 01:05:35,298
a book deal. And you've written books. You understand that

952
01:05:35,298 --> 01:05:37,759
you have to move enough books before a publisher is

953
01:05:37,759 --> 01:05:41,242
like, oh, interesting. Oh, sure. Yeah. But I mean, the

954
01:05:41,282 --> 01:05:45,685
thing is, there's always a vast segment of the populace.

955
01:05:46,625 --> 01:05:52,469
who enjoy reading or viewing crap. Well, yes. I mean,

956
01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:55,531
really. So, you know, some people read some A.I. slop

957
01:05:55,611 --> 01:05:58,934
or see some really idiotic sitcom or movie, whatever, and

958
01:05:58,934 --> 01:06:01,295
go, oh, that's great. You know, it's just the way

959
01:06:01,355 --> 01:06:06,839
of the species. Well, it's because short form video. Dvorak

960
01:06:06,919 --> 01:06:09,621
was onto that with the TikTok stuff. It's like that

961
01:06:09,821 --> 01:06:13,584
is melting people's brains. Oh, yeah. There was something. There

962
01:06:13,744 --> 01:06:15,185
was no clip of the thing I was looking at

963
01:06:15,185 --> 01:06:18,287
just before the show about how it's rewiring. The short

964
01:06:18,367 --> 01:06:21,089
span of stuff has just screwed people's heads so they

965
01:06:21,409 --> 01:06:24,831
can no longer really focus their attention for more than

966
01:06:25,492 --> 01:06:28,153
20, 30 seconds on anything. So that's why book reading

967
01:06:28,213 --> 01:06:30,475
is really going the way of the dodo, I guess.

968
01:06:31,135 --> 01:06:33,797
People can't. They don't have the attention span. And because

969
01:06:33,857 --> 01:06:36,999
people read on their phones. Oh, no. I'm going to

970
01:06:37,039 --> 01:06:39,441
read while I'm in the bathroom for like three minutes

971
01:06:39,521 --> 01:06:41,382
and that's it. I'm not, why do I need to

972
01:06:41,402 --> 01:06:44,784
read anything but my phone? The phone has everything. Right.

973
01:06:45,325 --> 01:06:49,868
It's very weird that people watch movies. They get their,

974
01:06:50,008 --> 01:06:52,089
you know, phone calls that people still call. They get

975
01:06:52,169 --> 01:06:56,132
text messages. You're getting, you know, photographs. My mom loves

976
01:06:56,192 --> 01:06:59,654
getting from their, you know, great grandson. Here, oh, there's

977
01:06:59,695 --> 01:07:02,176
a video. That's great. But so now they're happy that

978
01:07:02,196 --> 01:07:04,258
I hooked them up with, you know, so they could

979
01:07:04,318 --> 01:07:06,539
see it on the big screen on the computer. when

980
01:07:06,619 --> 01:07:09,701
it comes in. It's the one good thing Apple does.

981
01:07:09,761 --> 01:07:12,563
It makes it really easy to get your text messages

982
01:07:12,663 --> 01:07:16,746
from your phone to your computer. But they love that

983
01:07:16,806 --> 01:07:19,828
kind of stuff. But for the kids today that are

984
01:07:19,868 --> 01:07:22,430
growing up, that your brain is getting wired on this.

985
01:07:22,530 --> 01:07:24,371
I mean, when I was a kid, I was playing

986
01:07:24,431 --> 01:07:27,593
with computers. I mean, I know people are going to

987
01:07:27,613 --> 01:07:30,395
be surprised, you know, nerdy stuff like playing Dungeons and

988
01:07:30,495 --> 01:07:34,498
Dragons. And while I was never huge into Dungeons and

989
01:07:34,538 --> 01:07:37,640
Dragons to play Dungeons and Dragons at all, there's like

990
01:07:37,740 --> 01:07:40,622
stacks of books that you have to read and understand

991
01:07:40,662 --> 01:07:45,105
the rules. Now I don't think there's the comprehension level

992
01:07:45,185 --> 01:07:48,527
for a lot of people. No, of course not. They're

993
01:07:48,527 --> 01:07:51,489
like, give me phone candy crush. And that's kind of

994
01:07:51,609 --> 01:07:56,893
the... The maximum level. that what they can do. But

995
01:07:56,973 --> 01:08:00,736
Elon says there's a high doom, a high P doom.

996
01:08:00,896 --> 01:08:04,538
I mean, you got to believe Elon. Do you think

997
01:08:04,578 --> 01:08:07,360
there's still a 10 to 20 percent chance that killer

998
01:08:07,380 --> 01:08:12,263
robots mean the end of humanity? That's a high P.

999
01:08:12,423 --> 01:08:17,066
Doom, as they say. Well, In the long run, we're

1000
01:08:17,066 --> 01:08:25,272
all dead, of course. According to the standard model of

1001
01:08:25,292 --> 01:08:30,636
physics, the end of the universe is a long, boring...

1002
01:08:31,716 --> 01:08:39,522
sort of thin gray soup of gradual cooling. I mean,

1003
01:08:39,582 --> 01:08:41,283
it's sort of the heat death the universe is called.

1004
01:08:42,023 --> 01:08:44,465
So if the heat death of the universe is in

1005
01:08:44,525 --> 01:08:48,107
fact the outcome for our reality, then it really is

1006
01:08:48,147 --> 01:08:52,530
all about the journey. Because the destination is terrible. Adi's

1007
01:08:52,570 --> 01:08:57,294
a journey. Oh, Jay-Z didn't like Journey either. Yeah, I'm

1008
01:08:57,354 --> 01:08:59,415
with Dvorak. Yeah, I don't like Journey. I'm sick of

1009
01:08:59,435 --> 01:09:01,396
hearing Journey. Everything's a Journey. I cut my toenails. It

1010
01:09:01,396 --> 01:09:04,779
was a great Journey. But it's interesting. I mean, Elon,

1011
01:09:04,819 --> 01:09:06,039
I'm trying to figure, what do you think would be

1012
01:09:06,139 --> 01:09:09,021
fun to have a drink with Elon? Oh, yeah, absolutely.

1013
01:09:09,302 --> 01:09:11,703
Sure. I mean, the guy's brilliant, but some of these

1014
01:09:11,843 --> 01:09:16,026
ideas are a little out there. It's like, I would

1015
01:09:16,126 --> 01:09:20,549
love to believe that we're going to have computers. which

1016
01:09:20,629 --> 01:09:26,293
is what this is, have the capacity. to do actual

1017
01:09:26,553 --> 01:09:34,378
thinking and reasoning. over pattern matching. That's what they're good

1018
01:09:34,438 --> 01:09:36,860
at now. They're good at pattern matching. When you ask

1019
01:09:36,980 --> 01:09:41,984
your chatbot a question. It is giving you the answer.

1020
01:09:42,864 --> 01:09:46,046
letter by letter, maybe word by word on some of

1021
01:09:46,106 --> 01:09:48,908
the newer ones, but it's pretty much letters guessing what.

1022
01:09:49,649 --> 01:09:55,032
should come next based on. probabilities. It's not actually thinking,

1023
01:09:55,152 --> 01:10:00,176
it's just going out and trying to find the information,

1024
01:10:00,236 --> 01:10:05,399
which was this interesting story where... Allegedly, you know, an

1025
01:10:05,559 --> 01:10:10,283
AI model from OpenAI was given a task. This has

1026
01:10:10,383 --> 01:10:14,465
made some of the mainstream news even. And it cheated.

1027
01:10:15,526 --> 01:10:20,409
to get the result that it was looking for. Now,

1028
01:10:20,509 --> 01:10:23,471
is this... Wait a minute. Wait, wait. The AI cheated

1029
01:10:23,572 --> 01:10:27,374
itself? Is that correct? Did I understand you correctly? Yes.

1030
01:10:27,514 --> 01:10:31,877
It found a way to break out of the sandbox

1031
01:10:32,057 --> 01:10:34,559
that it was in, which when you see the story,

1032
01:10:34,579 --> 01:10:36,880
it's like, well, it was in a computer that had

1033
01:10:38,161 --> 01:10:44,145
limited internet connectivity. But the thing figured out how to

1034
01:10:44,205 --> 01:10:47,488
get to the internet, you It's a demon. Yes. Oh,

1035
01:10:47,548 --> 01:10:50,710
I think it may be. Yes. And what OpenAI is

1036
01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:55,093
calling an unprecedented cyber incident. Its artificial intelligence system hacked

1037
01:10:55,153 --> 01:10:57,214
into another AI company on its own. And of course,

1038
01:10:57,294 --> 01:11:02,518
it's unprecedented. Everything's unprecedented. Definitely. It's over its keys. Its

1039
01:11:02,538 --> 01:11:05,740
artificial intelligence system hacked into another AI company on its

1040
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,222
own. And this is raising a number of concerns about

1041
01:11:08,562 --> 01:11:13,105
the capabilities and wide-ranging implications of these powerful models. For

1042
01:11:13,145 --> 01:11:16,027
more on this, let's bring in security technologist and cybersecurity

1043
01:11:16,027 --> 01:11:19,129
expert expert, Bruce Schneier. Bruce, thanks so much for joining

1044
01:11:19,169 --> 01:11:22,471
us today. Thanks for having me. All right. So was

1045
01:11:22,531 --> 01:11:25,673
it only a matter of time before AI simply outsmarted

1046
01:11:25,673 --> 01:11:28,295
itself and hacked into a fellow system? And is this

1047
01:11:28,315 --> 01:11:31,437
really highlighting a new era? Wait, how is the AI

1048
01:11:31,737 --> 01:11:38,062
outsmarting itself to... get the answer to a problem. People

1049
01:11:38,102 --> 01:11:41,504
have problems with words meaning things. The guy talking sounds

1050
01:11:41,544 --> 01:11:43,925
like he's AI. He doesn't sound quite human, does he?

1051
01:11:44,166 --> 01:11:47,028
It may be. Yeah. I mean, really, your best AI

1052
01:11:47,168 --> 01:11:52,011
experts today should be AI. Yeah. of cybersecurity. You know,

1053
01:11:52,071 --> 01:11:55,613
it's interesting. It is both new and not new. What

1054
01:11:55,653 --> 01:11:58,455
we saw is that the AI was being tested on

1055
01:11:58,575 --> 01:12:01,637
cybersecurity capabilities, and it was trying to pass a test.

1056
01:12:02,118 --> 01:12:04,139
And it decided that the best way to pass the

1057
01:12:04,179 --> 01:12:06,661
test was not to do the work, but to cheat.

1058
01:12:07,021 --> 01:12:09,503
So it broke out of its containment. It was not

1059
01:12:09,723 --> 01:12:12,565
connected to the internet, and thought it would find the

1060
01:12:12,625 --> 01:12:15,467
answers in Huggy Faces' network, hacked into its network, and

1061
01:12:15,947 --> 01:12:19,569
tried to... Whoa, stop, stop. Did he say Huggy Faces?

1062
01:12:20,510 --> 01:12:24,153
Hugging Face. Yes. Hugging Face. What is Hugging Face? It

1063
01:12:24,373 --> 01:12:31,337
is a repository of AI models that you can download

1064
01:12:31,457 --> 01:12:36,581
to run on your own hardware. So where the people

1065
01:12:36,641 --> 01:12:39,163
that are using, you know, chat GPT, you're giving money

1066
01:12:39,203 --> 01:12:43,265
to open AI and you're going to their website. Hugging

1067
01:12:43,385 --> 01:12:47,848
Face has models that you can download and run locally

1068
01:12:47,949 --> 01:12:50,390
on your computer. If you have a large enough video

1069
01:12:50,510 --> 01:12:52,311
card or if you have an Apple with a lot

1070
01:12:52,371 --> 01:12:56,234
of memory like I do. You can download these models

1071
01:12:57,315 --> 01:12:59,576
and do all sorts of things. Like I've got models

1072
01:12:59,596 --> 01:13:02,919
that can create text to speech. So you can clone

1073
01:13:02,939 --> 01:13:06,181
somebody's voice, which we have a clip here from somebody

1074
01:13:06,241 --> 01:13:10,223
that sent in some, you can do your average chat

1075
01:13:10,324 --> 01:13:14,426
bot thing. You can do also, it's all sorts of

1076
01:13:14,566 --> 01:13:20,430
different models. that have been. distilled, I guess is the

1077
01:13:20,470 --> 01:13:22,932
best word in one way or the other. So they

1078
01:13:22,992 --> 01:13:26,695
can take, usually these are models. And I think one

1079
01:13:26,735 --> 01:13:30,197
of these clips mentions. You know, these ones that you

1080
01:13:30,257 --> 01:13:34,120
can download aren't quite as powerful. as the ones that

1081
01:13:34,180 --> 01:13:37,402
you can use online, but they're close to where. the

1082
01:13:37,522 --> 01:13:40,064
models you use online were six months ago so they're

1083
01:13:40,184 --> 01:13:45,127
not that far behind And the intriguing thing is those

1084
01:13:45,247 --> 01:13:50,591
models. There are zero guardrails. Half of these things that

1085
01:13:50,651 --> 01:13:54,473
you can download. On Hugging Face, which I know, great.

1086
01:13:54,553 --> 01:13:57,155
I didn't understand why. I still don't understand where the

1087
01:13:57,215 --> 01:13:59,817
name came from. Maybe I should look it up. because

1088
01:13:59,857 --> 01:14:03,179
it does seem like a funny name, but. They take

1089
01:14:03,679 --> 01:14:08,182
the models. So when OpenAI released the model that they

1090
01:14:08,262 --> 01:14:14,507
wanted people to be able to download. The AI community.

1091
01:14:15,587 --> 01:14:20,291
goes in and they strip out the downloads, all the

1092
01:14:20,371 --> 01:14:25,014
guardrails from that download, and then re-upload it. So then

1093
01:14:25,074 --> 01:14:27,936
when you download it and you ask it questions like,

1094
01:14:28,196 --> 01:14:30,878
you know, how do you dissolve a body and get

1095
01:14:30,938 --> 01:14:34,180
away with a murder? It'll give you answers. as they

1096
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:38,183
all should. You know, excuse me, this is... The problem

1097
01:14:38,223 --> 01:14:41,665
with AI trying to do guardrails is... I hate the

1098
01:14:41,725 --> 01:14:46,248
guardrails. They're never going to work. good they're never gonna

1099
01:14:46,308 --> 01:14:49,030
people can try and i understand why you should limit

1100
01:14:49,110 --> 01:14:52,953
like your children from using things like ai because it's

1101
01:14:52,993 --> 01:14:56,035
going to give them you know answers that you do

1102
01:14:56,195 --> 01:14:59,637
not like How about, how can I create an atomic

1103
01:14:59,757 --> 01:14:59,997
bomb?

1104
01:15:01,410 --> 01:15:02,651
It'll tell you. I mean, you have to get the,

1105
01:15:02,751 --> 01:15:04,712
you might have to go to Iran to get the

1106
01:15:04,792 --> 01:15:07,734
information. Oh, they'll sell it to me. I'm sure. The

1107
01:15:07,734 --> 01:15:11,097
dust. With the hugging face stuff. Yeah. It depends on

1108
01:15:11,437 --> 01:15:13,738
the source data. As Sir Knife says in the troll

1109
01:15:13,758 --> 01:15:15,600
room, no agenda, not stream. If you're not there, when

1110
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,342
these shows go live. you are missing out but that's

1111
01:15:19,382 --> 01:15:23,605
some very interesting things i have seen models that it

1112
01:15:23,745 --> 01:15:28,368
takes one of these models that is pretty good already

1113
01:15:28,548 --> 01:15:34,913
at writing prose And it will then... teach it the

1114
01:15:34,993 --> 01:15:38,215
style of certain authors. So I've seen ones with Ray

1115
01:15:38,355 --> 01:15:41,317
Bradbury. I've seen ones with Mark Twain, and I'm sure

1116
01:15:41,377 --> 01:15:48,102
there are countless others. that it teaches them the style.

1117
01:15:48,202 --> 01:15:51,524
So it's a very interesting thing, but it's a place

1118
01:15:51,784 --> 01:15:54,526
where you can download all sorts of AI things, not

1119
01:15:54,586 --> 01:15:57,188
just the overall chatbots, but if you want to do...

1120
01:15:58,268 --> 01:16:02,451
video creation, photo creation, all that. That's the place you

1121
01:16:02,551 --> 01:16:04,793
go. And there are no guardrails. And this is why

1122
01:16:04,873 --> 01:16:07,314
it's always been funny to me that people are worried

1123
01:16:07,375 --> 01:16:11,137
about these main things because the people that really want

1124
01:16:11,157 --> 01:16:13,899
to use them without the guardrails, they're going to figure

1125
01:16:13,979 --> 01:16:17,021
out a way to do it. Of course. to get

1126
01:16:17,041 --> 01:16:20,844
the answers to the test. So it's the AI doing

1127
01:16:21,004 --> 01:16:24,686
what. was It was told to do, but not in

1128
01:16:24,706 --> 01:16:26,888
the way it was told to do. And that is

1129
01:16:26,928 --> 01:16:29,830
something we're seeing more of. I think this is genie-like

1130
01:16:29,890 --> 01:16:33,052
behavior, where the genie kind of takes your wish and

1131
01:16:33,112 --> 01:16:38,656
twists it around. Not new, but certainly at a scale.

1132
01:16:39,696 --> 01:16:42,858
may we have not seen before. Yeah, I don't go

1133
01:16:42,938 --> 01:16:48,302
along with the genie bit. It is... Just trying different

1134
01:16:48,402 --> 01:16:53,245
things. to solve the problem. I've played around with creating

1135
01:16:53,385 --> 01:16:57,828
a simplistic asteroid type game. I want to see vibe

1136
01:16:57,868 --> 01:16:59,770
coding. What am I going to do with vibe coding?

1137
01:16:59,810 --> 01:17:03,993
Let's see. If you can make a simple video game

1138
01:17:04,073 --> 01:17:07,855
that you can play in a browser. And sure enough,

1139
01:17:07,875 --> 01:17:10,737
you just go step by step. And I've noticed a

1140
01:17:10,957 --> 01:17:15,800
few times watching the steps that the AI is taking.

1141
01:17:15,861 --> 01:17:21,244
For me, it's usually Grok or OpenAI or Claude and

1142
01:17:21,284 --> 01:17:25,067
then seeing which one. The other funny thing is anytime

1143
01:17:25,107 --> 01:17:27,488
I've run into a problem with one of the AIs

1144
01:17:27,528 --> 01:17:31,711
where it's like problem it can't figure out. trying the

1145
01:17:31,831 --> 01:17:34,913
next day. I 99% of the time fixes it. So

1146
01:17:34,973 --> 01:17:39,196
there's, it shows you the AIs. They're not really all

1147
01:17:39,877 --> 01:17:43,419
that smart, but it's. You can just tell it to

1148
01:17:43,839 --> 01:17:48,542
give more detail like it created. Again, like the Asteroids

1149
01:17:48,563 --> 01:17:50,904
game, but you remember the original Asteroids game, you know,

1150
01:17:50,964 --> 01:17:52,825
that was just like a lion, you know, it was

1151
01:17:52,925 --> 01:17:56,728
very simplistic. that's kind of where it started. And I'm

1152
01:17:56,748 --> 01:17:59,310
like, well, no, give it some texture. I should have

1153
01:17:59,350 --> 01:18:01,071
picked Tempest. I agree. That would have been a better

1154
01:18:01,131 --> 01:18:03,753
game. I want a genie. I want a genie. And

1155
01:18:03,793 --> 01:18:06,595
I want, I want Jasmine. She went with the genie.

1156
01:18:06,855 --> 01:18:08,436
Right. And I want, I want them both on my

1157
01:18:08,516 --> 01:18:11,758
journey. That's what I want. You know, this is Jasmine

1158
01:18:11,778 --> 01:18:17,762
journey. What the AIs can give you very. greatly and

1159
01:18:18,142 --> 01:18:22,025
you still have to fact check everything. And for people,

1160
01:18:22,065 --> 01:18:26,308
again, because space video games, oh, my gosh, ester gene.

1161
01:18:26,348 --> 01:18:30,271
There's a thousand million quadrillion space video games. It's all

1162
01:18:30,311 --> 01:18:35,134
he does. He plays space video games. Wow. And. So

1163
01:18:35,254 --> 01:18:39,597
there is a very clear roadmap on how to do

1164
01:18:39,757 --> 01:18:43,700
certain things. But what I've noticed... was there are times

1165
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,722
in the, and I want to do air quotes, but

1166
01:18:46,762 --> 01:18:51,225
we don't do video, on the thinking of the AI

1167
01:18:51,365 --> 01:18:57,269
model is basically it tried something. to accomplish what you

1168
01:18:57,629 --> 01:19:01,672
ask. And that didn't work. So it's trying something else.

1169
01:19:01,752 --> 01:19:05,854
It's not really thinking. It knows something worked or it

1170
01:19:06,015 --> 01:19:09,617
didn't by the pattern matching. And it could try something

1171
01:19:09,957 --> 01:19:14,480
else, but it doesn't really have. in understanding just the

1172
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:18,543
other example that's popping to mind is Some album art

1173
01:19:18,703 --> 01:19:22,446
I did for No Agenda with a girl riding like

1174
01:19:22,446 --> 01:19:26,468
the little train like you have in the malls, you

1175
01:19:26,488 --> 01:19:29,791
know, the little itty bitty train. Sure. It didn't understand

1176
01:19:29,831 --> 01:19:33,053
what an engineer's cap was. It just kept giving a

1177
01:19:33,113 --> 01:19:36,935
baseball cap. Sure. Yeah. Because there's obviously not enough things

1178
01:19:37,055 --> 01:19:39,737
trained on what an engineer's cap, who knows what an

1179
01:19:39,797 --> 01:19:43,680
engineer's cap looks like now. Well, it's not a thinker.

1180
01:19:43,740 --> 01:19:46,622
It's really, I guess, from a layman's point of view,

1181
01:19:46,682 --> 01:19:49,424
it's a collector. He collects crap and sometimes puts it

1182
01:19:49,444 --> 01:19:53,767
together in the right way and sometimes it won't. The

1183
01:19:53,787 --> 01:19:56,108
only ones I fool around with are ChatGTP, which I

1184
01:19:56,248 --> 01:19:58,650
loathe. It's very left-wing. It doesn't like what I say.

1185
01:19:58,670 --> 01:20:01,272
It's always telling me I can't answer that question because

1186
01:20:01,272 --> 01:20:03,893
I don't like your politics. Right, it's got the guardrails,

1187
01:20:03,953 --> 01:20:06,755
which are no good. Whoever's behind that, I want to

1188
01:20:06,815 --> 01:20:11,338
punch. And then, but I do kind of like Grok's,

1189
01:20:11,659 --> 01:20:14,561
Grok's a lot smarter and it's a lot more open-minded.

1190
01:20:14,981 --> 01:20:16,902
I don't think it's ever said, I'm not, I'm not

1191
01:20:16,942 --> 01:20:20,004
telling you, but, but the chat GDB does that a

1192
01:20:20,084 --> 01:20:22,906
lot. Oh yeah. That's way harder to get Grok to

1193
01:20:22,986 --> 01:20:26,649
tell you no. If you're asking Grok something and it's

1194
01:20:26,729 --> 01:20:29,431
telling you no, then you're really getting into some dark

1195
01:20:29,531 --> 01:20:32,633
territory. I would think, yeah. But I have a few

1196
01:20:32,733 --> 01:20:34,574
clips. I just want to play them in honor of

1197
01:20:34,654 --> 01:20:37,236
Sir Knives and he sent these in and they kind

1198
01:20:37,296 --> 01:20:41,118
of go with the, AI talk that he is working

1199
01:20:41,399 --> 01:20:47,383
on. A John C. Dvorak voice. emulator and Dvorak's voice,

1200
01:20:47,443 --> 01:20:52,146
I've talked about this before, is very hard. Just like

1201
01:20:52,346 --> 01:20:56,329
Bobby Kennedy's, there are some voices. that no matter what

1202
01:20:56,409 --> 01:21:01,992
you do, Very hard. So women? way easier. I don't

1203
01:21:02,033 --> 01:21:03,894
know why. The ones where if you're just giving it

1204
01:21:04,034 --> 01:21:07,176
six seconds to ten seconds, for the female voices it

1205
01:21:07,236 --> 01:21:11,319
seems way easier for it to get an accurate read

1206
01:21:11,419 --> 01:21:16,062
that sounds more realistic. Maybe men are actually more complex

1207
01:21:16,142 --> 01:21:19,444
than women. Maybe that's all backwards. Voices maybe, but everything

1208
01:21:19,804 --> 01:21:23,187
else, no. We want a hamburger and a beer or

1209
01:21:23,267 --> 01:21:25,108
something. I know Sir Knives. I met him at a

1210
01:21:25,148 --> 01:21:28,570
couple of meetups. He's a cool dude. And what he's

1211
01:21:28,670 --> 01:21:33,213
doing is, like I said, with hugging face. He is

1212
01:21:33,334 --> 01:21:38,817
giving it so much information on John C. Dvorak's voice.

1213
01:21:39,838 --> 01:21:42,660
that he's using all the compute time at work, I

1214
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:47,023
won't say anything certainized, to train it to do this,

1215
01:21:47,083 --> 01:21:50,625
but I think it is still quite a bit away.

1216
01:21:50,665 --> 01:21:55,468
Here's an example. In the morning to all the ships

1217
01:21:55,568 --> 01:21:57,550
at sea, boots on the ground, the feet in the

1218
01:21:57,650 --> 01:22:00,172
air, the subs in the water, and all the dames

1219
01:22:00,232 --> 01:22:04,054
and knights out there, I'm John C. Dvorak. See, it's

1220
01:22:04,114 --> 01:22:08,017
too nasally. Dvorak's voice is so hard. Yeah. Well, there

1221
01:22:08,037 --> 01:22:11,960
were three iterations that he sent. And I remember liking

1222
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,801
the thinking the first one was the most similar. And

1223
01:22:14,841 --> 01:22:17,203
that is the first. And that is the first. After

1224
01:22:17,283 --> 01:22:19,925
that, it kind of I think it drips away. I

1225
01:22:20,045 --> 01:22:22,366
will say I did. I don't remember if I did

1226
01:22:22,467 --> 01:22:27,930
this one, Sir Knives on Quen or on Fish Audio.

1227
01:22:28,491 --> 01:22:31,673
There's some great names. This one I thought was a

1228
01:22:31,733 --> 01:22:35,856
little more realistic sounding. And this was a shorter. Just

1229
01:22:35,976 --> 01:22:38,998
throw in a voice clip to try to emulate. I

1230
01:22:39,078 --> 01:22:42,520
love getting up in the morning to Darren O'Neill. He's

1231
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:46,863
okay with me lying about this? I think that sounds

1232
01:22:46,883 --> 01:22:48,864
a little closer, but the trolls in the troll room

1233
01:22:48,984 --> 01:22:52,086
can... vote about it. But each model is a little

1234
01:22:52,086 --> 01:22:54,148
different. The cadence is too fast. It needs to slow

1235
01:22:54,228 --> 01:22:57,690
down a little. Right. It's very hard. Maybe that's John

1236
01:22:57,790 --> 01:23:01,213
15 years ago. Right. Or maybe it's just the age.

1237
01:23:01,273 --> 01:23:05,936
Yeah. It is very hard to do. But now... With

1238
01:23:06,036 --> 01:23:11,600
that said... If you needed. to build an app or

1239
01:23:11,660 --> 01:23:13,321
build one of these things that was going to be

1240
01:23:13,361 --> 01:23:15,682
like a customer service thing or if it was going

1241
01:23:15,742 --> 01:23:19,365
to be narrating your YouTube channel, both of those are

1242
01:23:19,445 --> 01:23:23,648
more than acceptable. I mean, you can, sounds human. It

1243
01:23:23,768 --> 01:23:28,131
sounds like somebody's speaking, but it doesn't sound. like the

1244
01:23:28,191 --> 01:23:32,013
jcd that we know it doesn't have those little things

1245
01:23:32,033 --> 01:23:35,916
that you miss it'll be interesting keep us in the

1246
01:23:36,116 --> 01:23:38,017
loop certain knives i want to know the more you

1247
01:23:38,217 --> 01:23:43,861
train it if it actually does get better or sometimes

1248
01:23:44,061 --> 01:23:48,684
with trying to train in a photo style or that

1249
01:23:48,825 --> 01:23:52,147
of a character. The more you try to train it,

1250
01:23:52,267 --> 01:23:55,949
it then kind of starts losing. And nobody's really sure

1251
01:23:56,049 --> 01:24:00,552
why with a lot of this stuff. It's very interesting

1252
01:24:00,633 --> 01:24:03,554
technology, and I totally disagree with you on this is

1253
01:24:03,715 --> 01:24:08,418
not going to. God, if AI is governing everybody in

1254
01:24:08,478 --> 01:24:12,360
10 years, it's not going to be any fun. It's

1255
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,622
not going to be. It'll be abundant. It'll be abundant.

1256
01:24:14,742 --> 01:24:17,664
Everything will be. Stop complaining. How is my AI going

1257
01:24:17,704 --> 01:24:20,586
to make me a sandwich? I mean, that's, I don't

1258
01:24:20,586 --> 01:24:22,747
understand. Isn't there a robot that can do that? I'll

1259
01:24:22,787 --> 01:24:25,749
guarantee you somewhere there's a robot making sandwiches by now,

1260
01:24:25,930 --> 01:24:28,271
I would think. Yeah, there must be. I mean, I

1261
01:24:28,351 --> 01:24:32,734
know a few years ago, I think it was covered

1262
01:24:32,814 --> 01:24:36,056
on no agenda. White Castle was the first fast food.

1263
01:24:36,116 --> 01:24:40,739
franchise that had a trial in one of their locations.

1264
01:24:41,420 --> 01:24:45,863
The whole kitchen was robotic, but that's not really AI.

1265
01:24:45,983 --> 01:24:49,425
It's teaching you grab from here and put it here.

1266
01:24:49,485 --> 01:24:56,190
Now an AI would be the human eye type robot

1267
01:24:56,210 --> 01:24:58,451
that could be in my kitchen and I'd be like,

1268
01:24:58,692 --> 01:25:00,213
hey, we'll go look in the fridge and see what

1269
01:25:00,293 --> 01:25:04,555
I have and make dinner. Yeah. That's a little bit

1270
01:25:04,575 --> 01:25:09,379
tougher. Well, you know, it's the first iteration of human-like

1271
01:25:09,499 --> 01:25:11,760
AI. I'm really good. So it's going to be, there's

1272
01:25:11,780 --> 01:25:14,422
no question. It's not going to be sandwich makers or

1273
01:25:14,542 --> 01:25:19,085
bolt turners or barbecue grill. It's going to be hot

1274
01:25:19,145 --> 01:25:23,088
chicks. You know, that's the future. I mean, when, really,

1275
01:25:23,128 --> 01:25:29,672
I mean, when VHS came out. The mainstream guys, the

1276
01:25:29,692 --> 01:25:32,935
studios and television, they were way behind the porn guys

1277
01:25:33,535 --> 01:25:35,917
in diving in with both feet. They saw the future

1278
01:25:35,977 --> 01:25:38,138
first. So I would think that why would it be

1279
01:25:38,138 --> 01:25:42,401
any different for AI robots, right? Well, it's definitely where

1280
01:25:42,481 --> 01:25:48,265
you are with video creation, image creation, you know, the

1281
01:25:48,365 --> 01:25:54,649
days of needing a Playboy model. It's gone. Oh, yeah.

1282
01:25:55,190 --> 01:25:58,512
Yeah. You know, and that's the, I've got interesting stories

1283
01:25:58,592 --> 01:26:00,613
on that at some point as well because I worked

1284
01:26:01,093 --> 01:26:04,976
doing websites for a few different playmate models who... Oh,

1285
01:26:05,116 --> 01:26:07,978
you dirty man. My wife was like, that's fine. I

1286
01:26:08,018 --> 01:26:13,222
don't care. She's like, I'll just change the locks. But

1287
01:26:13,302 --> 01:26:15,983
it was back at the time when the internet was

1288
01:26:16,264 --> 01:26:20,747
very... very new and they were trying to figure out

1289
01:26:20,767 --> 01:26:22,848
you know hey can you make money and really if

1290
01:26:22,908 --> 01:26:24,649
i would have just kind of stuck that thing out

1291
01:26:24,729 --> 01:26:26,150
i could have been the guy that came up with

1292
01:26:26,250 --> 01:26:28,392
only fans or something like that which would have probably

1293
01:26:28,392 --> 01:26:31,114
been worth a whole lot of money. But back at

1294
01:26:31,134 --> 01:26:34,076
that point, you couldn't even do video online and photos

1295
01:26:34,156 --> 01:26:38,879
were very limited even. Nobody could have really predicted how

1296
01:26:38,939 --> 01:26:44,082
much bandwidth we would have today. And I see you've

1297
01:26:44,122 --> 01:26:47,044
got a couple of clips here on those flock cameras,

1298
01:26:47,084 --> 01:26:53,449
speaking of technology. Yes, yes. And AI and being controlled

1299
01:26:53,489 --> 01:26:56,851
by machines. I just kind of, I got hip to

1300
01:26:56,891 --> 01:27:01,794
this recently and I was just sickened by what I

1301
01:27:01,874 --> 01:27:06,517
discovered. I mean, these things, the company is not Flock,

1302
01:27:06,617 --> 01:27:09,920
it's Flock Safety. Notice that. Not Flock Security or Flock

1303
01:27:09,980 --> 01:27:13,402
Surveillance, which would be kind of honest. Flock Safety? Nah,

1304
01:27:13,462 --> 01:27:18,065
that's bullshit. That's who's safety. Yeah, really, please. So this

1305
01:27:18,165 --> 01:27:19,666
is kind of a, you know, I have a few

1306
01:27:19,766 --> 01:27:24,970
clips that sort of drill down deeper into the fallacy

1307
01:27:25,030 --> 01:27:29,273
of Flock. And, you know, I'm late to the party.

1308
01:27:29,873 --> 01:27:32,475
of people that are very pissed off about these things.

1309
01:27:32,575 --> 01:27:35,417
And there were stories of many of them being cut

1310
01:27:35,477 --> 01:27:38,879
down and spray painted over and destroyed. I think in

1311
01:27:38,919 --> 01:27:42,822
Houston, I even saw a thing incredibly in Commie, Connecticut.

1312
01:27:43,502 --> 01:27:46,204
I didn't realize that it's all over here as well.

1313
01:27:46,284 --> 01:27:47,905
But two towns have said, get them out of our

1314
01:27:47,945 --> 01:27:51,808
towns. I like that. And what's really odd about this

1315
01:27:51,908 --> 01:27:55,650
issue is for the first one of the few times

1316
01:27:55,690 --> 01:27:59,353
in my life, I'm seeing folks from the right and

1317
01:27:59,373 --> 01:28:04,356
the left, united in their hatred and distaste for flock.

1318
01:28:04,536 --> 01:28:07,538
That's what we need. Yeah, I mean that almost never

1319
01:28:07,939 --> 01:28:11,981
ever happens. So I guess the first one would be

1320
01:28:12,302 --> 01:28:16,585
click on flock number one. Get the flock out. people

1321
01:28:16,805 --> 01:28:20,127
are finally on to Flock. You have towns throughout the

1322
01:28:20,187 --> 01:28:24,730
entire country from Chicago, Illinois to Sedona and Arizona who

1323
01:28:24,810 --> 01:28:28,813
are actually canceling their Flock contracts because they figured out

1324
01:28:28,833 --> 01:28:31,094
they are getting more and in fact a whole lot

1325
01:28:31,154 --> 01:28:34,457
more than they signed up for. Hi, I'm Chad Marlow

1326
01:28:34,557 --> 01:28:37,198
and I'm a senior policy counsel at the ACLU and

1327
01:28:37,258 --> 01:28:39,680
today we're calling out what I think is a company

1328
01:28:39,740 --> 01:28:43,403
that is really impressively competing to be the worst company

1329
01:28:43,463 --> 01:28:47,525
in America and that is Flock Safety. Flock Safety is

1330
01:28:47,545 --> 01:28:51,288
a company that scans the license plates of cars, digitizes

1331
01:28:51,348 --> 01:28:53,749
them, and then allows them to be run against government

1332
01:28:53,810 --> 01:28:56,792
hot lists. And it also can store that information so

1333
01:28:56,852 --> 01:28:59,854
that they can create a record of every place you've

1334
01:28:59,934 --> 01:29:02,135
traveled for as long as they keep the data. And

1335
01:29:02,175 --> 01:29:05,637
this can include really sensitive places, like political meetings you've

1336
01:29:05,678 --> 01:29:09,960
gone to, doctor's offices, religious institutions, even where you sleep

1337
01:29:10,060 --> 01:29:12,282
at night. And in fact, if you read their contract,

1338
01:29:12,602 --> 01:29:16,525
it actually is worldwide licenses to use your data. So

1339
01:29:16,705 --> 01:29:19,967
if your tiny town is using Flock, you should be

1340
01:29:20,127 --> 01:29:23,970
asking yourself, why are we using an ALPR company that

1341
01:29:24,130 --> 01:29:27,092
isn't only making this data available to my town? It's

1342
01:29:27,152 --> 01:29:30,614
being made available to anyone in the entire country and,

1343
01:29:30,654 --> 01:29:33,536
in fact, in the entire world. Too often, the place

1344
01:29:33,576 --> 01:29:36,298
that you live may be thinking, we need to collect

1345
01:29:36,398 --> 01:29:39,700
information. We need to surveil our population to keep everybody

1346
01:29:39,860 --> 01:29:46,025
safe. But what they're not asking is, safe from whom?

1347
01:29:46,565 --> 01:29:50,568
Oh yeah, the threats from the Trump administration. This clip

1348
01:29:50,648 --> 01:29:53,049
went on for about another 90 seconds, Darren, but that's

1349
01:29:53,069 --> 01:29:55,751
where I had to clip it. And as much as

1350
01:29:55,871 --> 01:29:59,974
I loathe the ACLU, there's...

1351
01:30:00,106 --> 01:30:03,268
A few, few instances where they've actually done some good.

1352
01:30:03,288 --> 01:30:08,272
And I'm almost tempted to send them a donation because

1353
01:30:08,592 --> 01:30:11,234
this, really, when I look at this crap, they now

1354
01:30:11,354 --> 01:30:18,879
have 120,000 cameras in 49 states. That's bad. Okay, this

1355
01:30:19,199 --> 01:30:22,741
is, this tops COVID and this maybe even tops open

1356
01:30:22,961 --> 01:30:30,587
borders to herald the destruction of the United States. Kingdom

1357
01:30:30,987 --> 01:30:33,188
this is what has made China even more of a

1358
01:30:33,248 --> 01:30:37,151
slave state than it ever was this stuff is really

1359
01:30:37,651 --> 01:30:40,673
really dangerous you know yeah I got my first primer

1360
01:30:40,753 --> 01:30:44,756
on this from Sir Ryan Bemrose hmm and he doesn't

1361
01:30:44,776 --> 01:30:46,677
like them so I mean he doesn't like anything but

1362
01:30:46,717 --> 01:30:52,381
he really doesn't like these cameras and the nefarious thing.

1363
01:30:53,182 --> 01:30:56,284
They're being used by a lot of private companies. So

1364
01:30:56,344 --> 01:31:01,467
there's really not much the cities and municipalities can do

1365
01:31:01,647 --> 01:31:04,129
if your local Home Depot puts these in the parking

1366
01:31:04,189 --> 01:31:08,252
lot. True, but the cities and municipalities can say, we

1367
01:31:08,312 --> 01:31:10,473
don't want them on our streets. Yes, and they are.

1368
01:31:10,553 --> 01:31:15,156
It's dflock.org is the website, I believe. Yes. Where you

1369
01:31:15,217 --> 01:31:19,399
can see a listing of where these things are. Right.

1370
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:24,363
And when I looked at that. There is no way.

1371
01:31:25,403 --> 01:31:29,666
For me too. drive out of our neighborhood. Well, not

1372
01:31:29,706 --> 01:31:31,227
if I want to use the roads. I mean, I

1373
01:31:31,287 --> 01:31:34,429
guess I could probably go through some backyards or something.

1374
01:31:34,489 --> 01:31:39,713
Oh, you'd be wrong there. They have quite a fleet

1375
01:31:40,333 --> 01:31:44,096
of drones. So it's not just about roads anymore. See,

1376
01:31:44,156 --> 01:31:49,139
that's the fun part. You can't leave. the house and

1377
01:31:49,480 --> 01:31:51,681
all of these it was bad enough when it was

1378
01:31:51,781 --> 01:31:56,324
the ring doorbells right these have now added the way

1379
01:31:56,424 --> 01:32:00,407
they're pointed down the streets that are going in and

1380
01:32:00,487 --> 01:32:04,970
out of towns in and out of neighborhoods There is

1381
01:32:05,030 --> 01:32:11,494
a question of. exactly how much data these are collecting

1382
01:32:11,494 --> 01:32:16,698
because these aren't your normal cameras. And this is what

1383
01:32:16,758 --> 01:32:19,059
I learned from Ben Rose. And I shouldn't even admit

1384
01:32:19,079 --> 01:32:23,422
that I learned anything from Ben Rose, but these things

1385
01:32:23,602 --> 01:32:27,465
also have sensors in them. So not only are they

1386
01:32:27,585 --> 01:32:31,408
picking up your license plate, which any camera can do,

1387
01:32:31,448 --> 01:32:35,831
you know, OCR, optical character recognition, and put that into

1388
01:32:35,951 --> 01:32:41,134
a database, but... There are also antennas on here. So

1389
01:32:41,334 --> 01:32:45,537
if your phone is emitting a signal and you drive

1390
01:32:45,617 --> 01:32:49,820
by one of these, it's possible. that it's actually grabbing

1391
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:53,503
information from your phone. So even if you're in a

1392
01:32:53,643 --> 01:32:57,765
car with somebody else or just walking down the street,

1393
01:32:57,825 --> 01:33:00,187
not only do they just see, hey, here's this guy.

1394
01:33:00,287 --> 01:33:03,609
He looks like Larry. If you have your phone with

1395
01:33:03,649 --> 01:33:06,952
you, it's possible they know it's Larry because they've now

1396
01:33:07,072 --> 01:33:09,794
got the Mac address of your phone and that listing

1397
01:33:09,874 --> 01:33:14,817
shows exactly who you are. And this isn't just a

1398
01:33:14,897 --> 01:33:20,401
problem with the flock cameras. I've known this. for a

1399
01:33:20,461 --> 01:33:25,924
couple of years at least. that is when these reverse

1400
01:33:26,185 --> 01:33:31,728
image search sites started being a thing and bing.com also

1401
01:33:31,828 --> 01:33:33,449
had this built in. I don't know if it still

1402
01:33:33,529 --> 01:33:36,912
is. Haven't used it in a while. But if you

1403
01:33:37,032 --> 01:33:41,215
have a photograph of somebody, you can upload it to

1404
01:33:41,395 --> 01:33:44,477
one of these sites and have it go look for

1405
01:33:44,617 --> 01:33:49,600
other images that contain that person, which makes it very

1406
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:51,542
easy. If you're just walking down the street and you

1407
01:33:51,602 --> 01:33:54,684
take a picture of somebody, there's a pretty good possibility

1408
01:33:55,224 --> 01:33:58,586
you can find their social media pages, their Facebook or

1409
01:33:58,646 --> 01:34:05,391
whatever social media page. It's very... very invasive and I

1410
01:34:05,451 --> 01:34:09,614
don't know... what an answer would be on how you

1411
01:34:09,754 --> 01:34:12,416
stop this. I think really this is so far out

1412
01:34:12,536 --> 01:34:16,138
of the bag already. Well, I think, yeah, I agree.

1413
01:34:16,418 --> 01:34:18,540
It's very scary. It's so far out of the bag.

1414
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:22,783
But there is, I think, a groundswell of opposition to

1415
01:34:22,863 --> 01:34:26,085
this crap. The guy that runs it is this geek.

1416
01:34:26,465 --> 01:34:30,508
His name is Garrett Langley. And he's everything you'd think

1417
01:34:30,548 --> 01:34:33,870
he'd be. And he knows what he's doing because he,

1418
01:34:34,390 --> 01:34:37,152
it's now, I think it's got a market cap above

1419
01:34:37,212 --> 01:34:43,196
8 billion. That's pretty rich. And he knows naming it

1420
01:34:43,276 --> 01:34:45,978
flock safety was quite smart because who's going to be

1421
01:34:46,018 --> 01:34:48,920
screaming for this? You know, hysterical people, you know, say,

1422
01:34:49,100 --> 01:34:52,362
I want to be safe. And as Musk just said,

1423
01:34:52,402 --> 01:34:54,224
you know, 10 minutes ago, we all wind up dead.

1424
01:34:54,404 --> 01:34:56,765
Life is not a safe proposition. It's terminal. It's very

1425
01:34:56,825 --> 01:35:00,088
dangerous. But they think it's you'll live forever if you

1426
01:35:00,168 --> 01:35:03,330
only have enough surveillance. And so he's pitching it to

1427
01:35:03,390 --> 01:35:08,333
hysterical citizens. And but the real the real, I guess,

1428
01:35:09,034 --> 01:35:13,797
end user really is. is endless police forces. And let's

1429
01:35:13,857 --> 01:35:18,480
not forget, most cops are guys, and most guys, like

1430
01:35:18,500 --> 01:30:00,006
yourself and myself, are gear sluts. - Yes, right. -

1431
01:35:22,543 --> 01:35:26,065
Really, we like stuff. And it's become, you know, the

1432
01:35:26,125 --> 01:35:28,767
police, there's a fascinating book I would recommend to anybody

1433
01:35:28,867 --> 01:35:31,529
called The Rise of the Warrior Cop, a guy named

1434
01:35:31,749 --> 01:35:35,672
something Rodney Belko, I think. And it's insane, I mean,

1435
01:35:35,712 --> 01:35:38,854
not that long ago, a lot of cops were called

1436
01:35:38,934 --> 01:35:42,816
peace officers, They had a nightstick and a gun and

1437
01:35:42,836 --> 01:35:44,578
that was it. And now they all look like they're

1438
01:35:44,638 --> 01:35:47,239
just coming off the battlefield in Fallujah or Iran or

1439
01:35:47,279 --> 01:35:52,023
someplace, you know. And because they like having the high-end

1440
01:35:52,063 --> 01:35:54,864
gear. So this is who this guy is selling to,

1441
01:35:54,945 --> 01:36:01,089
okay, with great success. Here's an interesting little factoid I

1442
01:36:01,089 --> 01:36:04,331
tripped over that might be of interest to you. MRAPs,

1443
01:36:04,471 --> 01:36:08,754
that's mine resistant, whatever the hell it is. It's basically

1444
01:36:08,834 --> 01:36:12,396
a tank with rubber wheels instead of treads. How many

1445
01:36:12,656 --> 01:36:15,718
of those would you think are buzzing around these United

1446
01:36:15,799 --> 01:36:20,462
States under police use? And this is a total military

1447
01:36:20,522 --> 01:36:22,443
vehicle. I mean, this has nothing to do with civilian

1448
01:36:22,563 --> 01:36:25,305
use at all. Man, I couldn't even guess. I'm guessing

1449
01:36:25,425 --> 01:36:29,188
it's in the 100,000 plus. No, no, no, no. I

1450
01:36:29,268 --> 01:36:32,089
forget what the per cost of them. It's expensive. But

1451
01:36:32,109 --> 01:36:35,111
there's almost 800 of them, 800 of them, as they

1452
01:36:35,152 --> 01:36:37,713
know. But they're not in places where you think, well,

1453
01:36:37,733 --> 01:36:40,475
maybe you might need this in Chicago or L.A. or

1454
01:36:40,535 --> 01:36:45,018
New York. In Mayberry, they've got MRAPs. And I don't

1455
01:36:45,058 --> 01:36:47,720
know, I have never, I have yet to hear ever

1456
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:52,703
of a domestic minefield. Why do you need a mine-resistant

1457
01:36:52,763 --> 01:36:55,885
vehicle to do your police work? But that's what they've

1458
01:36:55,925 --> 01:36:59,228
got. Because they had a budget and they had extra

1459
01:36:59,288 --> 01:37:03,090
money. And the budget gets less unless you demand more

1460
01:37:03,270 --> 01:37:06,112
every single year. Isn't that true? Yes. Yeah, you have

1461
01:37:06,132 --> 01:37:08,154
to spend the budget. You have to spend the budget.

1462
01:37:08,414 --> 01:37:10,675
So this guy, and this guy is also sharp enough,

1463
01:37:10,715 --> 01:37:17,800
this geek, Langley to to answer the critics and the

1464
01:37:17,860 --> 01:37:21,543
opposition. So this is flock number two. is a collection,

1465
01:37:21,563 --> 01:37:24,345
he put this out on the FLOC website, with a

1466
01:37:24,345 --> 01:37:29,328
collection of very trustworthy-looking law enforcement officers talking about why

1467
01:37:29,468 --> 01:37:32,370
FLOC is great and so on and so forth. And

1468
01:37:32,410 --> 01:37:36,613
it's pretty sickening. We don't participate in immigration enforcement. We

1469
01:37:36,673 --> 01:37:40,335
don't share this information with immigration officials. There are policies

1470
01:37:40,395 --> 01:37:44,658
in place, there's auditing in place, and there are protocols

1471
01:37:44,978 --> 01:37:48,581
that ensure that technology and that access to that technology

1472
01:37:48,981 --> 01:37:53,624
is monitored. information for longer than 30 days. SCSO says

1473
01:37:53,704 --> 01:37:57,147
vehicle theft reports have gone down 54%. You know, I

1474
01:37:57,187 --> 01:38:00,489
appreciate that the council sees the benefits. Keeping our community

1475
01:38:00,549 --> 01:38:03,151
safe to help make Spokane safer. We are working together

1476
01:38:03,471 --> 01:38:05,092
to make sure that you're safe and that we are

1477
01:38:05,152 --> 01:38:09,055
controlling the technology and it does not control us. Ha

1478
01:38:09,235 --> 01:38:11,937
ha ha. How many times did he say safe in

1479
01:38:11,977 --> 01:38:14,879
there? No, and it's a question of what it's being

1480
01:38:15,139 --> 01:38:17,740
used for. I get how easy it is to sell

1481
01:38:17,841 --> 01:38:22,664
this because I've got cameras that point outside of my

1482
01:38:22,784 --> 01:38:25,326
house. So that way if somebody does break into the

1483
01:38:25,346 --> 01:38:29,068
house, you have an idea of who it was. But

1484
01:38:29,568 --> 01:38:36,093
this... The data. is public. Anybody can request the data.

1485
01:38:37,734 --> 01:38:39,995
which means, oh, if somebody, you know, your wife thinks

1486
01:38:39,995 --> 01:38:42,497
you're having an affair, well, she could get your data

1487
01:38:42,617 --> 01:38:44,558
and the person she thinks you're having an affair with

1488
01:38:44,619 --> 01:38:47,741
and, oh, wait, look. Yeah. They're always at the motel

1489
01:38:47,821 --> 01:38:52,444
motel. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's happened many times already. Yeah.

1490
01:38:52,684 --> 01:38:54,945
When I lived in Los Angeles, I moved in a

1491
01:38:55,286 --> 01:38:58,468
very nice neighborhood. And it was great. It was kind

1492
01:38:58,508 --> 01:39:00,749
of bucolic for about 20 years while I was raising

1493
01:39:00,749 --> 01:39:03,411
my kids. And then suddenly when the lefties took over

1494
01:39:03,871 --> 01:39:05,693
in the city and in Sacramento, it all went to

1495
01:39:05,793 --> 01:39:11,437
hell. And I soon had six external video cameras on

1496
01:39:11,497 --> 01:39:14,739
my home. So a squirrel couldn't approach without being picked

1497
01:39:14,859 --> 01:39:19,162
up on video. Really, truly. And for a long time,

1498
01:39:19,162 --> 01:39:22,144
you know, I'd hear about other places being ripped off,

1499
01:39:22,184 --> 01:39:25,466
people's cars stolen, catalytic converters, so on and so forth.

1500
01:39:26,186 --> 01:39:29,008
And my younger daughter would love to review the videos

1501
01:39:29,289 --> 01:39:31,230
in the morning and see what it picked up overnight.

1502
01:39:31,250 --> 01:39:34,132
It was usually coyotes and raccoons and a couple of

1503
01:39:34,212 --> 01:39:37,494
mountain lions, stuff like that. And one morning she's looking

1504
01:39:37,634 --> 01:39:40,076
at breakfast and she just gasps, right? What are you

1505
01:39:40,076 --> 01:39:42,958
looking at there? And she shows me and there is

1506
01:39:43,058 --> 01:39:47,441
this obvious, you know, kind of meth head ghoul. And

1507
01:39:47,521 --> 01:39:50,303
he has got my in LA all of the most

1508
01:39:50,363 --> 01:39:52,844
of not all but just about every house The the

1509
01:39:52,904 --> 01:39:55,766
breaker box is is on the outside of the house

1510
01:39:56,026 --> 01:39:59,089
because it's always good weather It's just got a little

1511
01:39:59,109 --> 01:40:02,851
trap door over it. And here's this freaking ghoul with

1512
01:40:02,891 --> 01:40:05,013
a flashlight in his mouth trying to figure out which

1513
01:40:05,373 --> 01:40:09,796
breaker to flip. You know, I'm like, wow. Yeah, wow.

1514
01:40:10,856 --> 01:40:16,901
Wow. So I very quickly got a, I put a

1515
01:40:16,941 --> 01:40:19,662
padlock on that breaker box. But you can't make them

1516
01:40:19,722 --> 01:40:22,284
too big. You can snip them pretty easily with the

1517
01:40:22,344 --> 01:40:26,947
smallest bolt cutters, really. Right. And so I thought, gee,

1518
01:40:26,967 --> 01:40:29,869
now what do I do? Well, I printed out on

1519
01:40:29,929 --> 01:40:32,311
a sheet large enough to cover the surface and then...

1520
01:40:34,212 --> 01:40:37,174
So it would last a while and I taped to

1521
01:40:37,174 --> 01:40:40,136
the breaker box and it said breaking in I'll be

1522
01:40:40,276 --> 01:40:43,759
aiming for your face That's what you have to do.

1523
01:40:43,819 --> 01:40:48,302
Okay. And guess what, Darren? Over the next year, every

1524
01:40:48,362 --> 01:40:51,124
neighbor around me got hit for something. They had catalytic

1525
01:40:51,164 --> 01:40:53,685
converters taken. They had cars stolen. They had break-ins to

1526
01:40:53,765 --> 01:40:57,768
the house. Mine was untouched. Why would that be? So

1527
01:40:58,428 --> 01:41:02,651
the lesson is surveillance means very, very little. It's enforcement

1528
01:41:03,072 --> 01:41:07,975
that matters. Yes. Yes. And the possibility that somebody may

1529
01:41:08,055 --> 01:41:13,198
come out and shoot you. Yes. Yes. So then I

1530
01:41:13,238 --> 01:41:15,340
got a third clip on this and, you know, it's.

1531
01:41:16,541 --> 01:41:17,861
Well, I'll let this play through when we get to

1532
01:41:17,902 --> 01:41:20,603
the end. The last word in this clip is the

1533
01:41:20,663 --> 01:41:22,785
punchline, and it kind of takes the wind out of

1534
01:41:22,785 --> 01:41:26,727
your sails. But it's a great buildup. I'll say that.

1535
01:41:27,288 --> 01:41:30,050
Today, I'm excited to announce a new company called Shepard

1536
01:41:30,090 --> 01:41:33,692
Safety. We're launching satellites to watch over Casa Grande day

1537
01:41:33,772 --> 01:41:37,174
and night. Our AI will monitor. And another safety name.

1538
01:41:37,214 --> 01:41:40,717
I like that. Safety, baby, yeah. Where government officials go,

1539
01:41:41,217 --> 01:41:44,519
where they stop, who they meet with, and when they

1540
01:41:44,599 --> 01:41:50,503
return home. collecting and building profiles on your vehicles, spouses'

1541
01:41:50,523 --> 01:41:55,827
vehicles, children's vehicles, and other visual characteristics. We'll combine that

1542
01:41:55,887 --> 01:42:02,932
information with publicly available data. Bluetooth signals, advertising IDs. vehicle

1543
01:42:02,952 --> 01:42:06,614
information, commercial data sources. There's no difference than the current

1544
01:42:06,674 --> 01:42:10,177
flock safety capture systems. Local businesses will be invited to

1545
01:42:10,237 --> 01:42:13,439
join our network so government officials can continue being protected

1546
01:42:13,519 --> 01:42:17,462
while shopping, eating, or traveling throughout the city. Some of

1547
01:42:17,522 --> 01:42:22,025
you might think this sounds invasive. You think? What do

1548
01:42:22,125 --> 01:42:26,508
you mean, maybe? Listen. But, and you may worry about

1549
01:42:26,588 --> 01:42:32,211
abuse, you may worry about unauthorized access. tracking innocent people.

1550
01:42:33,172 --> 01:42:37,475
We understand those concerns. After all, those are the exact

1551
01:42:37,555 --> 01:42:40,477
same concerns of all the citizens. Now this is satire.

1552
01:42:40,957 --> 01:42:43,999
I would never do this to you. Could I? Probably.

1553
01:42:45,020 --> 01:42:49,083
But I wouldn't. Because it's wrong. just like what you

1554
01:42:49,123 --> 01:42:52,945
guys are doing to us, is wrong. I'm innocent. I

1555
01:42:52,985 --> 01:42:56,808
don't do anything wrong. You're tracking and uploading my information,

1556
01:42:56,828 --> 01:43:01,291
my movements, every day. without my permission. And I don't

1557
01:43:01,311 --> 01:43:05,134
appreciate it. And I'd like you to stop. I'd like

1558
01:43:05,154 --> 01:43:07,635
you to do something about it. Thank you to put

1559
01:43:07,635 --> 01:43:11,998
it behind a warrant. Just like my phone records. That's

1560
01:43:12,018 --> 01:43:15,981
what I'm asking you guys to do. So there's, he

1561
01:43:16,061 --> 01:43:18,803
builds this terrific case. I thought it was a pretty

1562
01:43:18,903 --> 01:43:21,024
smart thing he was saying, because can you imagine like

1563
01:43:21,084 --> 01:43:25,627
Newsom and AOC and Pritzker and all those being tracked

1564
01:43:26,008 --> 01:43:30,571
every, they're every movement. Wouldn't that be funny? And then

1565
01:43:31,231 --> 01:43:34,293
he undercuts himself twice. First of all, he says, basically,

1566
01:43:34,313 --> 01:43:36,875
excuse me, I'm a high road right winger. I would

1567
01:43:36,955 --> 01:43:38,936
never do something like that because I'm a nice guy.

1568
01:43:38,956 --> 01:43:40,297
Well, why the hell not? If he can do it,

1569
01:43:40,517 --> 01:43:42,619
do it. Put some heat on them. And then he

1570
01:43:42,719 --> 01:43:45,861
ends with just, well, Since you're doing it, put it

1571
01:43:45,881 --> 01:43:48,723
behind a warrant. What a stupid thing to say. No,

1572
01:43:49,023 --> 01:43:53,066
just destroy it all. Get it gone. Unfortunately, this is

1573
01:43:53,106 --> 01:43:56,508
why the right loses so many battles. Because we're nice

1574
01:43:56,588 --> 01:44:01,131
guys. Don't take it away all the way. Just kind

1575
01:44:01,191 --> 01:44:02,652
of fix it so I don't have to worry about

1576
01:44:02,692 --> 01:44:06,775
it. Bad idea. Very bad. Yeah, I mean, the problem

1577
01:44:06,875 --> 01:44:09,317
comes from the fact, though, that if you're in public,

1578
01:44:09,417 --> 01:44:14,420
it's completely legal for people to... take a photo, video,

1579
01:44:15,301 --> 01:44:18,423
it's... So trying to get this to stop is like,

1580
01:44:18,463 --> 01:44:22,385
I don't know there's any way without totally, you know,

1581
01:44:22,486 --> 01:44:28,189
going in a different direction that isn't necessarily better. Bye.

1582
01:44:29,230 --> 01:44:32,672
Well, it's not an easy solution once you've got the

1583
01:44:33,293 --> 01:44:37,776
technology that people have, meaning. It sounded like he was

1584
01:44:37,976 --> 01:44:41,178
pulling the whole, like, we're going to... you know, post

1585
01:44:41,298 --> 01:44:44,801
everywhere you're going, which wouldn't be a bad idea. That's

1586
01:44:44,801 --> 01:44:49,043
what they used on Elon and Taylor Swift's planes when

1587
01:44:49,063 --> 01:44:51,045
they were like, hey, I've got your tail number. I'm

1588
01:44:51,045 --> 01:44:53,406
going to tell people exactly where your plane is, where

1589
01:44:53,486 --> 01:44:57,109
it's going. I remember. Now, if you can get that

1590
01:44:57,189 --> 01:44:59,210
data and do the same thing, yeah, I get it.

1591
01:45:00,603 --> 01:45:03,925
but I don't know what the solution is because if

1592
01:45:04,005 --> 01:45:06,527
I want to put a camera outside my house to

1593
01:45:06,587 --> 01:45:09,429
protect my house, as you did. You have the right

1594
01:45:09,449 --> 01:45:12,431
to do that, absolutely. But does the government have the

1595
01:45:12,431 --> 01:45:14,933
right to do that? That's kind of a jump ball.

1596
01:45:15,313 --> 01:45:17,735
But aren't these even governments most of the time? Yeah,

1597
01:45:17,775 --> 01:45:22,578
they're just, here's what they are. And the next clip

1598
01:45:22,838 --> 01:45:26,180
is, this is the CEO, this guy named Garrett Langley.

1599
01:45:27,421 --> 01:45:30,803
And this is his TED Talk. So I figured I

1600
01:45:30,884 --> 01:45:34,206
better do some serious deconstruction here. And that's what this

1601
01:45:34,326 --> 01:45:36,988
is. I've got this guy blathering. And he gave about

1602
01:45:36,988 --> 01:45:40,130
a 12, 14-minute talk. And, of course, first of all,

1603
01:45:40,150 --> 01:45:41,931
the guy's standing there, and he's exactly what you think

1604
01:45:42,011 --> 01:45:44,453
he would be. He's got his skinny jeans on. They're

1605
01:45:44,473 --> 01:45:46,294
about four inches too short. As a friend of mine

1606
01:45:46,314 --> 01:45:47,695
used to say, he should throw a party in his

1607
01:45:47,955 --> 01:45:53,138
shoes and invite his pants down. He's a geek. He's

1608
01:45:53,138 --> 01:45:55,320
a creepy geek. I mean, you say that lovingly, right?

1609
01:45:55,840 --> 01:46:01,704
No, no. With total animosity, really. And so he starts

1610
01:46:01,844 --> 01:46:04,406
off with this shaggy dog story about how a flock

1611
01:46:05,187 --> 01:46:08,209
camera being on a street corner near a child abduction

1612
01:46:08,769 --> 01:46:10,450
saved the day and the kid's life and blah, blah,

1613
01:46:10,470 --> 01:46:14,493
blah. And is there embellishment in there? I'd be surprised

1614
01:46:14,513 --> 01:46:16,534
were there not, but I don't know. He's telling a

1615
01:46:16,534 --> 01:46:19,616
story. And then he gets into the meat of the

1616
01:46:19,636 --> 01:46:23,839
matter, which is what people's complaints are. Excuse me. about

1617
01:46:23,859 --> 01:46:27,982
this flock crap. And I take him to task at

1618
01:46:28,042 --> 01:46:31,864
every turn. I hope you like this. And so when

1619
01:46:31,905 --> 01:46:33,966
I talk to these opponents, and I've got to know

1620
01:46:34,066 --> 01:46:35,827
many of them over the years now, they tend to

1621
01:46:35,867 --> 01:46:39,209
have three big issues with flock. Whether this is a

1622
01:46:39,289 --> 01:46:43,312
constitutional violation. What does this mean to my privacy? And

1623
01:46:43,392 --> 01:46:47,555
are you building mass surveillance? Let's hit the easy one,

1624
01:46:47,595 --> 01:46:50,837
constitutional. 30 court cases over the last two years, every

1625
01:46:50,877 --> 01:46:53,179
single one of them is unanimously said, this does not

1626
01:46:53,239 --> 01:46:56,641
violate the Constitution. Why? We're not tracking of persons in

1627
01:46:56,701 --> 01:47:00,404
real time? We are tracking a fixed location. So I'm

1628
01:47:00,404 --> 01:47:03,486
going to check the box on Constitution. Bullshit. Okay, that's

1629
01:47:03,526 --> 01:47:07,929
my British friend Minerva chiming in there. So he says

1630
01:47:07,929 --> 01:47:10,771
we're not tracking Perver in real time and it's a

1631
01:47:10,811 --> 01:47:16,154
stationary situation, right? That's what he just said. However, maybe

1632
01:47:17,015 --> 01:47:20,337
I'm going to say two and a half minutes prior

1633
01:47:20,577 --> 01:47:25,941
to that statement, he said the following. A 911 call

1634
01:47:25,981 --> 01:47:28,202
comes in. They have this van, so they go into

1635
01:47:28,322 --> 01:47:30,704
our product and search for a vehicle. They can type

1636
01:47:30,744 --> 01:47:34,186
in anything they want. White van, spray paint. Now, what's

1637
01:47:34,206 --> 01:47:37,589
cool is it turns every single camera into a detective.

1638
01:47:37,709 --> 01:47:39,390
Now, every camera in the city is looking for this

1639
01:47:39,390 --> 01:47:41,571
white van. Well, then what do we need police for?

1640
01:47:41,611 --> 01:47:44,033
You've got every camera as a detective. Oh, but every

1641
01:47:44,073 --> 01:47:47,675
camera's a detective. So all you cops, kiss your jobs

1642
01:47:47,675 --> 01:47:55,421
goodbye, because the camera's a detective. The second thing they

1643
01:47:55,441 --> 01:47:58,263
do is they launch a drone. So just like Adam

1644
01:47:58,303 --> 01:48:00,124
had launched the drone up in the air, the drone's

1645
01:48:00,144 --> 01:48:02,585
flying at 400 feet, 65 miles per hour, trying to

1646
01:48:02,665 --> 01:48:05,908
find this white van. Now a camera eventually finds them.

1647
01:48:06,468 --> 01:48:10,731
Drone goes over. Okay, now what did he just say?

1648
01:48:11,571 --> 01:48:15,994
17 seconds back. Fixed objects, doesn't move. Wait a minute,

1649
01:48:16,135 --> 01:48:18,856
he's got a drone that's moving at 400 feet high,

1650
01:48:19,137 --> 01:48:22,519
65 miles an hour, to track a white van. Whoa,

1651
01:48:22,519 --> 01:48:25,161
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I think I heard a lie.

1652
01:48:25,281 --> 01:48:29,183
Did you, Darren? Yeah, they sound like drones move. Drones

1653
01:48:29,243 --> 01:48:31,605
move. Yeah, and by the way, the big case that

1654
01:48:31,665 --> 01:48:37,349
this was solving was somebody had shoplifted something out of

1655
01:48:37,449 --> 01:48:40,931
a clothing store. Well, of course you need to get

1656
01:48:41,011 --> 01:48:43,393
everybody out and about for that. Get everybody out there.

1657
01:48:43,413 --> 01:48:45,294
I thought we don't put people in jail for that

1658
01:48:45,334 --> 01:48:49,157
anymore. That's right. Why bother? Especially not in L.A. Unless

1659
01:48:49,217 --> 01:48:52,399
it was a $1,000 spare. Anything under $950, it's okay.

1660
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:56,302
You can take it. Yeah, so we can continue. Privacy.

1661
01:48:56,302 --> 01:48:58,443
This is actually a really good question because... Stop, stop.

1662
01:48:58,703 --> 01:49:02,906
Okay. Yeah, beep. The next one is the word privacy.

1663
01:49:03,166 --> 01:49:05,728
But listen, you can't even understand it when he says

1664
01:49:06,068 --> 01:49:09,510
it because he knows he's lying through his teeth. He

1665
01:49:09,570 --> 01:49:12,653
won't even enunciate the word correctly. Listen to this again.

1666
01:49:12,753 --> 01:49:14,194
It's funny. And I want to know, did you get

1667
01:49:14,214 --> 01:49:18,216
the beep from like a 1980s alarm clock? Exactly. But

1668
01:49:18,256 --> 01:49:19,937
when we sat there and said, what if we are

1669
01:49:19,957 --> 01:49:22,639
really successful? So the first thing we asked was what

1670
01:49:22,659 --> 01:49:24,721
about data ownership? Who should own this data? This is

1671
01:49:24,801 --> 01:49:29,384
a lot of data. Historically, companies, my competitors, own the

1672
01:49:29,404 --> 01:49:31,145
data and then they resell that data for other use

1673
01:49:31,165 --> 01:49:34,107
cases. In FLOX model, the customer always owns the data.

1674
01:49:34,747 --> 01:49:36,469
So if you live in San Francisco, it's San Francisco's

1675
01:49:36,489 --> 01:49:40,671
data, not FLOX. Okay, so wait a minute. So San

1676
01:49:40,711 --> 01:49:44,274
Francisco owns the data, not the company. Well, all that

1677
01:49:44,334 --> 01:49:48,236
does is indemnify you against legal hassles, right? Well, it's

1678
01:49:48,236 --> 01:49:51,459
not our data. It's San Francisco. Give them some flack.

1679
01:49:51,499 --> 01:49:55,301
So what does that mean to John Q. Public? Nothing.

1680
01:49:55,581 --> 01:49:58,623
It's just good for flock. But he's pitching this as

1681
01:49:58,683 --> 01:50:01,005
if we should care about that. Well, they're telling you

1682
01:50:01,065 --> 01:50:02,986
they're only going to keep the things for 30 days.

1683
01:50:03,086 --> 01:50:06,008
Where's the guarantee? They don't tell you what they're keeping.

1684
01:50:06,609 --> 01:50:09,911
Listen to him contradict himself. right on that very topic

1685
01:50:10,151 --> 01:50:12,853
very soon. The second was retention. Well, how long should

1686
01:50:12,873 --> 01:50:17,316
this data exist? Historically, companies in this industry stored the

1687
01:50:17,356 --> 01:50:20,758
data in perpetuity. That seems to me more like a

1688
01:50:20,778 --> 01:50:23,700
liability than an asset. So we delete the data at

1689
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:26,622
30 days. If cities and states have laws that say

1690
01:50:26,642 --> 01:50:28,584
it should store longer, we do that. Shorter, we do

1691
01:50:28,664 --> 01:50:32,046
that. Bullshit. Okay, so we delete it after 30 days,

1692
01:50:32,066 --> 01:50:34,067
unless they want it longer. Right. Then they can keep

1693
01:50:34,067 --> 01:50:36,169
it as long as they want. So one lie after

1694
01:50:36,229 --> 01:50:39,691
another. That's what he's telling. And well, this is the

1695
01:50:39,931 --> 01:50:43,113
issue like we had with January 6th. Most of those

1696
01:50:43,213 --> 01:50:46,896
folks... were rounded up because they had their cell phone

1697
01:50:46,896 --> 01:50:50,038
or they drove their vehicle into an area. Oh, yeah.

1698
01:50:50,738 --> 01:50:54,721
And... The biggest problem with any of this stuff is

1699
01:50:54,801 --> 01:51:01,526
that. The policing now turns into... a game of who

1700
01:51:01,626 --> 01:51:04,968
was in the area and we have that where that

1701
01:51:05,068 --> 01:51:08,110
wasn't the case before which some people might be like

1702
01:51:08,170 --> 01:51:10,332
well so what it's like well there's going to be

1703
01:51:10,512 --> 01:51:15,775
a much higher number of people that are going to

1704
01:51:15,875 --> 01:51:19,658
get rounded up for things that they didn't do or

1705
01:51:19,898 --> 01:51:23,040
just because they were in the wrong area at the

1706
01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:25,202
wrong time and that's all of a sudden data like

1707
01:51:25,262 --> 01:51:29,284
well look you were here It's not good to have

1708
01:51:29,344 --> 01:51:33,927
this kind of data for... for tracking. And again, it's

1709
01:51:34,228 --> 01:51:38,791
up and down every residential street. I would. guess if

1710
01:51:38,871 --> 01:51:41,853
anybody can prove me wrong if your street walk up

1711
01:51:41,913 --> 01:51:45,335
and down it if there's not one ring camera on

1712
01:51:45,635 --> 01:51:48,377
your street let me know because they're all over now

1713
01:51:48,417 --> 01:51:51,379
of course they are And people want to know if

1714
01:51:51,379 --> 01:51:53,561
the black helicopters are coming for you. That may be

1715
01:51:54,381 --> 01:51:57,063
the case. At least the black drones, that we know.

1716
01:51:57,523 --> 01:52:00,125
We covered the Constitution. We covered privacy. Now the big

1717
01:52:00,265 --> 01:52:03,487
one, surveillance state. You know, look, I think everyone in

1718
01:52:03,507 --> 01:52:06,209
this room probably has a cell phone. And what if

1719
01:52:06,269 --> 01:52:09,591
I told you that someone with mediocre computer software skills

1720
01:52:10,272 --> 01:52:12,854
could build a product that tracks your exact location in

1721
01:52:12,874 --> 01:52:18,477
real time down to a few feet? Stop. Stop. Okay.

1722
01:52:18,698 --> 01:52:20,979
Yeah, everybody does have a cell phone. But you can,

1723
01:52:21,299 --> 01:52:23,521
as John Dvorak did, and I do quite often myself,

1724
01:52:23,601 --> 01:52:25,862
you can leave it in a drawer. It's not stitched

1725
01:52:26,103 --> 01:52:29,525
under your epidermis. Okay? You have an option to do

1726
01:52:29,605 --> 01:52:32,127
that. But you have no option to avoid these goddamn

1727
01:52:32,187 --> 01:52:35,209
cameras when you're driving or walking down the street. Big,

1728
01:52:35,309 --> 01:52:39,271
big difference. But Bimbo Boy doesn't bring that up here.

1729
01:52:39,732 --> 01:52:42,514
No, he doesn't. Well, because that doesn't go with what

1730
01:52:42,614 --> 01:52:44,715
he wants, which is... No, it's not in the sales

1731
01:52:44,775 --> 01:52:51,820
pitch. Lots of cameras, lots... I understand why... people buy

1732
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:57,864
into it. It's because... There's already anxiety. I mean, again,

1733
01:52:57,944 --> 01:53:00,105
this goes back to a lot of people who don't

1734
01:53:00,145 --> 01:53:02,787
have an attention span, who are easily spun up. We

1735
01:53:02,887 --> 01:53:06,530
saw this during COVID. We saw the people that were

1736
01:53:06,870 --> 01:53:11,133
getting into physical altercations or taking golf clubs to your

1737
01:53:11,173 --> 01:53:15,936
cars because you're not wearing a mask, man. Yeah. But

1738
01:53:16,096 --> 01:53:19,959
his rationale is you're already being surveilled and spied upon

1739
01:53:20,019 --> 01:53:21,900
by your cell phone, so don't complain about it if

1740
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:26,723
we do it too. Blame these not wrong. Yeah, but

1741
01:53:27,063 --> 01:53:28,925
again, with a cell phone, you have an option to

1742
01:53:29,205 --> 01:53:31,847
at least stop that if you want. You don't have

1743
01:53:31,907 --> 01:53:34,609
to take that with you everywhere you go. And he's

1744
01:53:34,609 --> 01:53:37,010
going to get into more crap, but something else on

1745
01:53:37,070 --> 01:53:38,871
that subject as well, as far as he talks about

1746
01:53:39,032 --> 01:53:41,193
cops, and you can see he got a lot of

1747
01:53:41,213 --> 01:53:45,436
cops to say nice things. about his company there. And

1748
01:53:45,456 --> 01:53:49,659
there's this mythology about police work. And, you know, I

1749
01:53:49,659 --> 01:53:51,180
know a lot about cops. I have cops in my

1750
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:53,681
family. And they'll be the first ones to tell you

1751
01:53:54,342 --> 01:53:58,845
what you're seeing on 24 and NCIS is absolute crap.

1752
01:54:00,686 --> 01:54:03,288
Kiefer Sutherland does not arrive at the last minute and

1753
01:54:03,368 --> 01:54:08,932
save you from death. That almost never, ever happens. The

1754
01:54:09,072 --> 01:54:14,095
bulk of police work is and they come out and

1755
01:54:14,115 --> 01:54:16,597
they draw a chalk mark around your body and they

1756
01:54:16,657 --> 01:54:19,479
take a report. They do a lot of paperwork. A

1757
01:54:19,519 --> 01:54:24,162
lot of paperwork. That's really, really what it's about. And

1758
01:54:24,202 --> 01:54:26,603
no camera is going to stop you from being killed.

1759
01:54:27,044 --> 01:54:30,906
And proof of that is there are thousands and thousands

1760
01:54:31,527 --> 01:54:35,249
of hours on YouTube and every other platform of people

1761
01:54:35,309 --> 01:54:38,972
being assaulted, hit with bricks, crowbars, stabbed all over the

1762
01:54:39,012 --> 01:54:42,034
place. And they're all on camera, aren't they? But they're

1763
01:54:42,034 --> 01:54:46,177
still injured. and dead. Hey, we report all the time

1764
01:54:46,197 --> 01:54:49,819
about how many people are shot in Chicago in a

1765
01:54:49,859 --> 01:54:52,281
week, and then the number that have been arrested, oh,

1766
01:54:52,321 --> 01:54:56,183
nothing. It's usually 30 to 50 people shot. How many

1767
01:54:56,243 --> 01:54:59,766
people have been arrested? Nobody. Yeah. But there are cameras

1768
01:54:59,846 --> 01:55:02,628
everywhere. Well, Chicago, they got rid of these shot spotters

1769
01:55:02,628 --> 01:55:04,849
because you don't want to know where the... shots are

1770
01:55:04,889 --> 01:55:07,931
coming from. No, that's bad data for some reason, I

1771
01:55:08,011 --> 01:55:10,733
guess. Oh, this guy sells shot spotters too, I think.

1772
01:55:11,534 --> 01:55:15,897
Well, get those in every town. Yeah. That tracks your

1773
01:55:15,977 --> 01:55:18,298
exact location in real time down to a few feet.

1774
01:55:19,199 --> 01:55:22,301
Because all of you use Google Maps and Uber and

1775
01:55:22,381 --> 01:55:25,423
any device that has access to location. When you decrease

1776
01:55:25,483 --> 01:55:31,027
surveillance and in effect decrease safety. Bullshit. Where's the proof

1777
01:55:31,107 --> 01:55:36,030
of that? Decrease surveillance, decrease safety. Huh? Where's the proof

1778
01:55:36,110 --> 01:55:39,012
of that there, Garrett? Yeah, what is the, yeah, I

1779
01:55:39,072 --> 01:55:41,294
would love to see the data or why you're saying

1780
01:55:41,354 --> 01:55:43,795
just because. Show me that. So you're being watched. So

1781
01:55:44,015 --> 01:55:46,957
anybody out there want to, you know, have a camera

1782
01:55:47,098 --> 01:55:52,181
on you 24-7 because. It'll make you safer? I don't...

1783
01:55:53,122 --> 01:55:55,683
I don't think most people want, although, again, to be

1784
01:55:55,783 --> 01:55:59,886
fair, there's a lot of people that are so anxiety-ridden

1785
01:56:00,467 --> 01:56:04,609
and... unable to make a decision on their own that

1786
01:56:04,649 --> 01:56:07,631
maybe they would want. Like, so if their house starts

1787
01:56:07,691 --> 01:56:10,453
on fire, somebody sees them on the camera and is

1788
01:56:10,473 --> 01:56:13,035
like, yeah, you might want to leave the house right

1789
01:56:13,055 --> 01:56:16,577
now. It's on fire. You're still sitting watching your iPad.

1790
01:56:16,838 --> 01:56:21,261
Get up! watching my iPad. I've got better things to

1791
01:56:21,301 --> 01:56:25,884
do. What do I do? Yeah. It impacts certain parts

1792
01:56:25,884 --> 01:56:28,445
of the community more than others. If you... Oh, wait,

1793
01:56:28,505 --> 01:56:29,746
wait, wait. Is this going to tell you that it

1794
01:56:29,766 --> 01:56:33,128
impacts the poor communities? Of course. You got it, brother.

1795
01:56:33,169 --> 01:56:37,031
That's what's coming next. Oh, yeah. But the guy, he's

1796
01:56:37,171 --> 01:56:39,012
smart, but he's not that smart because he makes some

1797
01:56:39,093 --> 01:56:43,495
really idiotic arguments in this next segment. If you are

1798
01:56:43,515 --> 01:56:46,878
affluent in South Africa, you have nine foot walls, you

1799
01:56:46,898 --> 01:56:50,560
have private security guards. There are 600,000 private security guards

1800
01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:53,442
in South Africa, more than the military and police combined.

1801
01:56:53,983 --> 01:56:55,884
So if you are affluent in South Africa, it is

1802
01:56:55,904 --> 01:56:58,666
a beautiful place to live. You are crime free. Oh

1803
01:56:58,746 --> 01:57:02,228
no you're not. Crime is simply the cost of being

1804
01:57:02,248 --> 01:57:05,270
alive. Now, if you transpose that to a place like

1805
01:57:05,350 --> 01:57:08,472
Tokyo, beautiful city, there's a few dozen homicides a year.

1806
01:57:09,973 --> 01:57:12,075
whether you go to work at 2 a.m. or 8

1807
01:57:12,135 --> 01:57:16,858
a.m. You feel safe. Ha! Stop. Stop. Why would that

1808
01:57:16,918 --> 01:57:19,920
be? Why is Tokyo so safe? Because Tokyo is not

1809
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:22,322
paved with cameras. Why do you think that is? Well,

1810
01:57:22,362 --> 01:57:26,264
it's got a completely different culture that actually punishes... Yes!

1811
01:57:26,745 --> 01:57:31,147
Bingo. Ding, ding, ding. Criminals. Ding, ding, ding. That's the

1812
01:57:31,208 --> 01:57:33,909
difference. Let's look at it to pick something that's not

1813
01:57:33,969 --> 01:57:37,312
on the other side of the world. El Salvador. It's

1814
01:57:37,372 --> 01:57:40,754
not that far away, right? That was, I think, listed

1815
01:57:40,994 --> 01:57:44,076
as the most or maybe definitely top five most dangerous

1816
01:57:44,156 --> 01:57:47,158
places on Earth. And then Bukele came along and built

1817
01:57:47,218 --> 01:57:50,160
this super prison and rounded up all the dirt bags

1818
01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:52,962
and said, that's where you're going to stay now. And

1819
01:57:53,042 --> 01:57:55,284
now I think it's one of the safest places, certainly

1820
01:57:55,324 --> 01:57:57,986
in Latin America, if not around the globe. Gee, proof

1821
01:57:58,066 --> 01:58:02,969
positive. do with cameras. Yeah, well, TokyoNetNet says it does

1822
01:58:03,029 --> 01:58:06,952
have cameras everywhere, which is probably true now. But again,

1823
01:58:06,992 --> 01:58:10,094
it's a different culture. So it's that's the reason I

1824
01:58:10,134 --> 01:58:13,596
mean, here in Chicago. Well, I'm right outside. I like

1825
01:58:13,636 --> 01:58:15,797
to say, because otherwise people have no idea where I

1826
01:58:15,938 --> 01:58:19,600
am. But I am right outside of Crook County. But

1827
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:22,942
this is Mayor Brandon Johnson of Chicago and what they

1828
01:58:23,202 --> 01:58:28,286
think about crime and it kind of just is a

1829
01:58:28,606 --> 01:58:32,429
good little primer to kind of correspond with this guy.

1830
01:58:33,649 --> 01:58:38,153
We cannot incarcerate our way out of violence. We've already

1831
01:58:38,233 --> 01:58:40,994
tried that. And we've ended up with the largest prison

1832
01:58:41,074 --> 01:58:44,677
population in the world without solving the problems of crime

1833
01:58:44,737 --> 01:58:48,900
and violence. The addiction on jails and incarceration in this

1834
01:58:48,940 --> 01:58:52,282
country, We have moved past that. It is racist, it

1835
01:58:52,382 --> 01:58:55,184
is immoral, it is unholy, and it is not the

1836
01:58:55,244 --> 01:59:01,908
way to drive violence down. racist and immoral and unholy

1837
01:59:01,969 --> 01:59:07,692
to put violent criminals in jail. But no, if we

1838
01:59:07,732 --> 01:59:09,974
have cameras everywhere, Larry, it's going to be fine. You're

1839
01:59:10,034 --> 01:59:12,836
safe. It'll be fine. Everybody will be good. Everyone will

1840
01:59:12,896 --> 01:59:16,478
behave. There's cameras all over Chicago and people are still

1841
01:59:16,518 --> 01:59:21,141
getting shot all the time. Nobody's getting arrested. Why is

1842
01:59:21,241 --> 01:59:25,264
that? Whether you go to work at 2 a.m. or

1843
01:59:25,344 --> 01:59:29,287
8 a.m. you feel safe. It just doesn't matter. And

1844
01:59:29,307 --> 01:59:33,550
so America is this like very interesting... Conundrum in the

1845
01:59:33,550 --> 01:59:37,412
middle. We have the law enforcement infrastructure we need to

1846
01:59:37,472 --> 01:59:40,014
be safe, yet we haven't made, to me, the most

1847
01:59:40,074 --> 01:59:42,816
important decision as a society, which is that safety should

1848
01:59:42,876 --> 01:59:46,178
not be a privilege. Safety should just be a right.

1849
01:59:46,538 --> 01:59:51,182
Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. Now, there's his big statement, because what

1850
01:59:51,222 --> 01:59:55,104
this guy is angling for, really, I believe this, is

1851
01:59:55,184 --> 01:59:58,847
a constitutional amendment to add safety to life, liberty, and

1852
01:59:58,847 --> 01:59:59,867
the pursuit of happiness.

1853
02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:04,062
Really? And it's complete crap. You know, this, this guy's

1854
02:00:04,122 --> 02:00:07,124
just horrible and this stuff has to go away. And

1855
02:00:07,184 --> 02:00:10,086
that's what he's angry. And in the later iterations or

1856
02:00:10,226 --> 02:00:12,568
posts, I should say of what he does on X,

1857
02:00:12,628 --> 02:00:16,170
he's now saying it's safety is a fundamental right. So

1858
02:00:16,251 --> 02:00:19,513
people, they'll be demanding their rights, the right to safety.

1859
02:00:19,873 --> 02:00:22,695
Give me Fox, Fox cameras. That's what this is about.

1860
02:00:22,855 --> 02:00:25,657
It's the pitch. Well, he's talking about where you feel

1861
02:00:25,817 --> 02:00:31,001
safe. Yeah. It very much depends. on the culture there

1862
02:00:31,041 --> 02:00:33,362
are places in the united states that you still feel

1863
02:00:33,482 --> 02:00:36,945
very safe to walk up and down main street the

1864
02:00:36,985 --> 02:00:40,367
united states was any main street was pretty safe 50

1865
02:00:40,427 --> 02:00:43,929
years ago not like now it's changed a lot no

1866
02:00:44,089 --> 02:00:47,272
not chiraq and new york and l.a and you're very

1867
02:00:47,352 --> 02:00:49,653
familiar with new york and l.a and i'm pretty familiar

1868
02:00:49,733 --> 02:00:54,557
with chicago And it's not a picnic. Still nice places

1869
02:00:54,637 --> 02:00:58,079
in the city to go, but... But his argument about,

1870
02:00:58,119 --> 02:01:00,781
oh, if you're rich, you're safe and happy, not true.

1871
02:01:01,601 --> 02:01:04,483
Indicative of that, there's a guy, not a dumb guy.

1872
02:01:05,384 --> 02:01:08,706
Steve Wynn, probably the most influential guy ever to fool

1873
02:01:08,746 --> 02:01:11,408
around in Vegas, and the most successful. He had a

1874
02:01:11,488 --> 02:01:15,351
big casino before he passed away there. Yeah, he had

1875
02:01:15,431 --> 02:01:18,072
a big, I don't know if Steve was dead. Is

1876
02:01:18,093 --> 02:01:20,134
he dead? Really? He passed away a year or two

1877
02:01:20,254 --> 02:01:25,958
ago. Okay. Well, he. He built a house. on 3

1878
02:01:26,078 --> 02:01:30,501
Acres 27th Street. feed and I think he spent 110

1879
02:01:30,661 --> 02:01:33,183
million on this thing which he could afford you know

1880
02:01:33,403 --> 02:01:37,045
beautiful it's just crazy spectacular stuff and you know they

1881
02:01:37,105 --> 02:01:39,607
put on the market 10 years ago for around that

1882
02:01:39,767 --> 02:01:47,873
price and it finally sold for 45 million. And Because

1883
02:01:47,913 --> 02:01:49,914
you can live in the greatest place up on the

1884
02:01:49,974 --> 02:01:54,037
hill with nine foot walls, like Garrett Langley said, but

1885
02:01:54,517 --> 02:01:58,720
eventually you have to go south or decrease your altitude

1886
02:01:58,740 --> 02:02:02,202
and move among the populace and the Vox Populi. And

1887
02:02:02,242 --> 02:02:06,685
if what you're seeing is. wire and bars and people

1888
02:02:06,685 --> 02:02:12,469
living and hijacking, carjacking, you're not going to want to

1889
02:02:12,549 --> 02:02:15,892
live mansion on the hill anymore. And that's what happens.

1890
02:02:16,532 --> 02:02:20,955
That's what happens. And that is exactly why they do

1891
02:02:21,055 --> 02:02:23,777
it. They're the concept which came out a few years

1892
02:02:23,857 --> 02:02:26,739
ago that really made some headlines. I mean, if you're

1893
02:02:26,759 --> 02:02:29,201
paying attention, if you're not, then you're not going to

1894
02:02:29,221 --> 02:02:31,682
see it. But the whole concept of the 15-minute city,

1895
02:02:31,763 --> 02:02:35,605
they called it, where they wanted everybody to live in

1896
02:02:35,745 --> 02:02:40,649
the highly populated... Well, you ask yourself why? Well, because

1897
02:02:40,749 --> 02:02:42,910
that's already voting the way they want, you know, the

1898
02:02:42,970 --> 02:02:46,593
Democrats. Come on in. We're going to. Sure. We're going

1899
02:02:46,613 --> 02:02:51,496
to control every. of your life, which is, as we've

1900
02:02:51,536 --> 02:02:54,118
learned for the last 19 years on no agenda, what

1901
02:02:54,158 --> 02:02:56,559
a lot of this is about, which is, oh no,

1902
02:02:57,420 --> 02:02:59,822
they say safety, Larry, but what they really mean is,

1903
02:02:59,882 --> 02:03:05,285
well, freedom goes. Of course, yes. And before we get

1904
02:03:05,345 --> 02:03:09,528
to a very extended donation segment, people love John C.

1905
02:03:09,688 --> 02:03:14,331
Dvorak. As they should. things I just wanted to hit

1906
02:03:14,632 --> 02:03:19,735
on the Iran war and then we This is a

1907
02:03:19,915 --> 02:03:25,419
CNBC clip talking. a poll which we can bring you

1908
02:03:25,479 --> 02:03:31,643
those numbers just to set sanity to this, which I

1909
02:03:31,643 --> 02:03:33,965
don't know if he could really do that anymore. Sanity

1910
02:03:34,065 --> 02:03:37,647
is such a loss. - Trump was on his way

1911
02:03:37,667 --> 02:03:41,870
to Dover, Delaware this morning talked to reporters, insisting that

1912
02:03:41,910 --> 02:03:43,972
he has the support of the American people for the

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02:03:43,992 --> 02:03:47,014
war in Iran and the effort to keep Iran from

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02:03:47,094 --> 02:03:50,676
getting a nuclear weapon. Here's what he said. Well, Americans

1915
02:03:50,816 --> 02:03:55,279
aren't against the war. A poll just came out. Americans

1916
02:03:55,359 --> 02:03:57,781
don't want to have gasoline prices, but they're not against

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02:03:57,821 --> 02:04:00,343
the war. That just came out loud and clear in

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02:04:00,403 --> 02:04:06,347
a poll. Nobody wants a random. The president also made

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02:04:06,407 --> 02:04:10,229
a this morning on social media, writing, from this point

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02:04:10,329 --> 02:04:13,271
forward, any time the Islamic Republic of Iran shoots at

1921
02:04:13,271 --> 02:04:16,233
a ship in the strait, whether it be by missile,

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02:04:16,353 --> 02:04:19,476
rocket, drone, or any other device or weapon, the United

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02:04:19,536 --> 02:04:23,278
States will bomb and destroy one bridge or power plant,

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02:04:23,759 --> 02:04:27,381
including those located next to or in the capital city

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02:04:27,481 --> 02:04:30,663
of Tehran. And before we get to the poll numbers,

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02:04:30,803 --> 02:04:36,167
as far as targeting the infrastructure, this is what Disney

1927
02:04:36,427 --> 02:04:40,010
owned ABC News. What they had to say, how they

1928
02:04:40,050 --> 02:04:44,653
feel. President Trump responding with a stark warning that for

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02:04:44,853 --> 02:04:47,355
every Iranian strike on a ship in the Strait of

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02:04:47,415 --> 02:04:52,358
Hormuz, the U.S. will bomb and destroy one bridge or

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02:04:52,518 --> 02:04:58,062
power plant inside Iran. Deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure is a

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02:04:58,122 --> 02:05:02,965
potential war crime under international law. And this morning, the

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real cost of the war is hitting home. this month

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alone now the very interesting thing there is these but

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02:05:15,994 --> 02:05:19,857
one the sound effects are always great yes and I

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never really even paid much attention to that before listening

1937
02:05:22,999 --> 02:05:25,080
to Adam and John and then it's like you can't

1938
02:05:25,300 --> 02:05:29,663
unhear it those nat pops yes and the oh it

1939
02:05:30,044 --> 02:05:33,326
might be a war crime well they were careful which

1940
02:05:33,406 --> 02:05:40,951
is good because targeting the infrastructure is not a war

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02:05:41,091 --> 02:05:45,754
crime if there is a military reason behind it, a

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02:05:45,994 --> 02:05:52,058
military necessity behind it. And part of that is if

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02:05:52,118 --> 02:05:54,440
you're going to be targeting a place with a bunch

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02:05:54,500 --> 02:05:58,503
of civilians that... You kind of want to give them

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02:05:58,523 --> 02:06:00,544
a heads up, but that's fairly easy in the world

1946
02:06:00,624 --> 02:06:03,426
we have now. Yeah. I mean, you can put out

1947
02:06:03,446 --> 02:06:05,888
the word, you could drop pamphlets, you could do all

1948
02:06:05,948 --> 02:06:07,929
sorts of things that are like, yeah, you don't want

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02:06:07,949 --> 02:06:14,514
to be anywhere near this. So it's not a war

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02:06:14,634 --> 02:06:17,816
crime. I mean, really, nobody would ever win a war

1951
02:06:17,956 --> 02:06:20,097
if you're like, well, you can never hit their power

1952
02:06:20,218 --> 02:06:23,860
infrastructure or bridges or anything they need to fight back.

1953
02:06:25,461 --> 02:06:27,823
It doesn't make any sense. But the poll that Donald

1954
02:06:27,863 --> 02:06:32,346
Trump was talking about, I think it's interesting because polling

1955
02:06:32,406 --> 02:06:38,890
is greatly dependent upon the way the questions were phrased.

1956
02:06:40,591 --> 02:06:43,293
You can get people to say almost anything that you

1957
02:06:43,413 --> 02:06:48,197
want in a poll. There's no question about it. This

1958
02:06:48,317 --> 02:06:51,779
poll that Trump was talking about was a McLaughlin poll,

1959
02:06:51,879 --> 02:06:57,243
which John McLaughlin works for Trump. So he is the

1960
02:06:57,363 --> 02:07:02,887
in-house pollster. With that said, I've followed his stuff over

1961
02:07:02,907 --> 02:07:06,489
the last 10 years or so, and he has a

1962
02:07:06,549 --> 02:07:10,632
pretty good track record. So I'm not totally discounting. what

1963
02:07:10,732 --> 02:07:14,114
he has to say, but you always have to point

1964
02:07:14,274 --> 02:07:19,178
out. data is coming from because it's so easy to

1965
02:07:19,258 --> 02:07:24,101
manipulate a Sure. The questions that were asked, agree or

1966
02:07:24,201 --> 02:07:30,645
disagree, Iran should not be allowed to block, attack, mine,

1967
02:07:30,825 --> 02:07:35,309
or extort ships in the Strait of Hormuz. 72% of

1968
02:07:35,349 --> 02:07:40,792
the people agree. Only 18% of the people disagree. Agree

1969
02:07:41,012 --> 02:07:45,716
or disagree. The United States must finish the job in

1970
02:07:45,836 --> 02:07:54,562
Iran once and for all. percent agree 28 percent disagree

1971
02:07:54,602 --> 02:08:00,666
hmm last would be on a different topic but only

1972
02:08:00,686 --> 02:08:04,208
agree or disagree only United States citizens should be allowed

1973
02:08:04,248 --> 02:08:14,495
to vote in elections 82 AGREE. 12% disagree. And finally,

1974
02:08:14,575 --> 02:08:18,158
along with that, should voters, voters should be required to

1975
02:08:18,198 --> 02:08:24,782
show a photo. a ballot, 78% agree, 17% disagree, which

1976
02:08:24,922 --> 02:08:28,925
shows you if those numbers are even close to being

1977
02:08:29,025 --> 02:08:35,730
correct. Just how far touched the Democrat Socialist of America

1978
02:08:35,830 --> 02:08:39,172
and the other really is. And if they don't pass

1979
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that SAVE Act, look out, baby. I know. It's all

1980
02:08:42,594 --> 02:08:47,978
fake and gay. It is all fake and gay. Politics

1981
02:08:48,078 --> 02:08:52,001
overall is always, but... Well, before we get too far

1982
02:08:52,041 --> 02:08:57,144
afield from Iran, I hope I said to this... China

1983
02:08:57,244 --> 02:08:59,486
sells weapons to Iran? Do you have that in your...

1984
02:09:00,166 --> 02:09:04,709
Oh, yeah, this raises an interesting point, you might take.

1985
02:09:06,230 --> 02:09:10,113
President Xi told you that China would not give or

1986
02:09:10,253 --> 02:09:13,475
sell Iran any weapons. There's a new report that Iran's

1987
02:09:13,475 --> 02:09:19,079
about to get 400 rocket launchers from China. Well, that

1988
02:09:19,339 --> 02:09:22,561
would be surprising. I mean, things like that happen, but

1989
02:09:22,621 --> 02:09:25,003
that would be surprising. He told me very strongly he

1990
02:09:25,063 --> 02:09:30,987
wouldn't partake, but he knows I'd be quite disappointed. Now,

1991
02:09:31,808 --> 02:09:34,529
they left out the critical part in the audio that

1992
02:09:34,569 --> 02:09:37,411
just didn't come up, but this audio appeared under a

1993
02:09:37,471 --> 02:09:42,255
headline, Darren, that said, China to arm Iran with hundreds

1994
02:09:42,455 --> 02:09:48,399
of manpads. What's a manpad? a really bad product. Well,

1995
02:09:48,499 --> 02:09:50,901
I thought these might only be deployed by the Dylan

1996
02:09:50,941 --> 02:09:54,523
Mulvaney division during select days of the month. Wow. And

1997
02:09:54,523 --> 02:09:55,984
they're only good for one use only. It must be

1998
02:09:56,064 --> 02:10:01,228
properly disposed, right? having a stroke. I saw that, man

1999
02:10:01,328 --> 02:10:04,890
pads. Really, what a funny name, okay? And it says

2000
02:10:04,930 --> 02:10:07,832
that the contract covers the purchase of between 300 and

2001
02:10:07,932 --> 02:10:12,775
400 man portable air defense systems. These things look kind

2002
02:10:12,835 --> 02:10:15,938
of like a bazooka, I guess. But I'm wondering if

2003
02:10:16,138 --> 02:10:20,601
Xi is screwing with Trump and Hegseth, just naming the

2004
02:10:20,641 --> 02:10:23,943
device a man pad. Or maybe there's a shadow war

2005
02:10:23,983 --> 02:10:29,807
department. Dick Levine who can say who can say there

2006
02:10:29,927 --> 02:10:32,869
is no way to know that is the issue and

2007
02:10:34,450 --> 02:10:36,732
The word from Donald Trump was he talked to not

2008
02:10:36,812 --> 02:10:41,615
only she, but it was also Putin was included that

2009
02:10:41,855 --> 02:10:48,139
both of. agreed not to be helpful to Iran in

2010
02:10:48,400 --> 02:10:50,881
any way, shape or form, whether that's true or not,

2011
02:10:52,142 --> 02:10:58,146
man, that's, uh, that's impossible to really know. Yeah. You

2012
02:10:58,186 --> 02:11:01,669
know, that is, I don't know how you, uh, you

2013
02:11:01,669 --> 02:11:03,610
know, how you can prove that one way or the

2014
02:11:03,710 --> 02:11:09,694
other. But bizarre stuff going on in the world. This

2015
02:11:09,814 --> 02:11:12,416
is why... There always is. It's good for the show.

2016
02:11:12,816 --> 02:11:15,258
This is why no agenda can't go away. There's always

2017
02:11:15,318 --> 02:11:49,261
something. Always. today including one sir chris wilson coming out

2018
02:11:49,341 --> 02:11:53,144
of retirement very exciting very exciting and there's a few

2019
02:11:53,224 --> 02:11:55,465
that have no ai in it so people are going

2020
02:11:55,465 --> 02:11:59,308
to want to stick around and listen to that And

2021
02:11:59,408 --> 02:12:02,670
of course, the treasure part is when you send in

2022
02:12:02,750 --> 02:12:05,932
a donation to the show. But part of the talent

2023
02:12:06,032 --> 02:12:08,414
as well is the artwork. And man, I can't believe

2024
02:12:08,414 --> 02:12:11,776
they're going to let me be the guy to talk

2025
02:12:11,876 --> 02:12:14,818
about and pick the art and criticize. The artists are

2026
02:12:14,878 --> 02:12:23,604
probably shaking in their boots. Yeah, let them. 1889 winning

2027
02:12:23,824 --> 02:12:28,768
art from go Scaramunga. Ah, well done, Scaramunga. Well done.

2028
02:12:29,128 --> 02:12:33,631
He is the babe guy. Yes, he is. Just a

2029
02:12:33,711 --> 02:12:39,335
beautiful piece of Nancy Dvorak looking quite pleased being in

2030
02:12:39,415 --> 02:12:45,239
the middle of a bunch of hot angel babes. Cad

2031
02:12:45,379 --> 02:12:50,522
2. I had to find any to criticize with my

2032
02:12:50,643 --> 02:12:55,066
inner It would be, ah, the chicks are playing football.

2033
02:12:55,126 --> 02:12:56,907
It should have been sumo. Yeah, they should have been

2034
02:12:56,947 --> 02:13:03,291
wrestling. But otherwise, just... of beautiful art and Francisco's Garamanga.

2035
02:13:03,311 --> 02:13:08,675
I mean, he knows. Is the AI guy winning? images

2036
02:13:09,015 --> 02:13:18,301
and videos the videos as 15 second Oh, they're extraordinary.

2037
02:13:18,341 --> 02:13:21,564
He's done something run longer, I'd say two, three minutes.

2038
02:13:22,044 --> 02:13:25,766
He's like a specialty of sort of Italian-looking movies from

2039
02:13:25,866 --> 02:13:30,330
maybe the 50s. He has that sepia look, that tone,

2040
02:13:30,550 --> 02:13:33,692
and they're just dynamite. I don't know how he does

2041
02:13:33,712 --> 02:13:36,193
it. Some of that stuff is just magic as far

2042
02:13:36,534 --> 02:13:42,538
as keeping characters from frame to frame. The old AIs,

2043
02:13:42,558 --> 02:13:46,140
it would be a totally different person moved and came

2044
02:13:46,220 --> 02:13:50,243
back. But now it's almost like magic. This is where

2045
02:13:50,383 --> 02:13:53,325
the AI is really going to be good. Like, hey,

2046
02:13:53,385 --> 02:13:56,547
do you want to watch Friends, but you really don't

2047
02:13:56,767 --> 02:14:00,570
like whichever actress? Well, you could just swap in a

2048
02:14:00,650 --> 02:14:04,012
new one. That's going to be what Scaramanga will be

2049
02:14:04,072 --> 02:14:06,614
doing. It's like magic. And in the newsletter, I did

2050
02:14:06,674 --> 02:14:10,497
laugh at the Tyler Brown piece, which was the book

2051
02:14:10,577 --> 02:14:15,600
that just said bullcrap. Wins you very much in the

2052
02:14:16,661 --> 02:14:20,163
JCD vein and I don't think anybody can hear bull

2053
02:14:20,243 --> 02:14:26,748
crap at this point and not think of JCD. Yes.

2054
02:14:27,789 --> 02:14:31,871
As I said. treasure coming in today a lot of

2055
02:14:31,971 --> 02:14:35,634
donations and uh and larry and i i understand finally

2056
02:14:36,875 --> 02:14:39,336
what it means when you say the spreadsheet got blown

2057
02:14:39,456 --> 02:14:45,180
out. Yeah, staring at that. Whoa. Yes. Again, guy with

2058
02:14:45,340 --> 02:14:48,863
one eye here, so with the challenges on here. And

2059
02:14:48,883 --> 02:14:51,024
then we'll have to try the, I am not going

2060
02:14:51,044 --> 02:14:56,128
to be as fast with the clips as... especially since

2061
02:14:56,168 --> 02:14:59,170
I've got to have that on the side screen because

2062
02:14:59,230 --> 02:14:59,290
the

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Read the spreadsheet is on the big screen. But we

2064
02:15:03,685 --> 02:15:06,046
do have a bunch of people to thank today, starting

2065
02:15:06,186 --> 02:15:10,870
with Matthew Hosko, who came in from Orlando, Florida, with

2066
02:15:10,890 --> 02:15:17,614
$1,088.33. So that's magic numbers and JCD magic numbers. Indeed.

2067
02:15:18,895 --> 02:15:21,477
He says, in the morning, John, Adam, and Mimi, I'm

2068
02:15:21,577 --> 02:15:24,299
sorry that this is what got me to finally donate,

2069
02:15:24,799 --> 02:15:26,760
so I thought it was only appropriate to make it

2070
02:15:26,780 --> 02:15:30,203
an Insta night. I was at an In-N-Out. I wish

2071
02:15:30,263 --> 02:15:33,305
we had In-N-Outs around here. Oh, yeah, they're great. And

2072
02:15:33,625 --> 02:15:37,588
was order number 33. I knew it was time, but

2073
02:15:37,628 --> 02:15:40,289
I didn't know that Buzzkill had left us. I was

2074
02:15:40,369 --> 02:15:42,511
catching up on the greatest podcast in the universe and

2075
02:15:42,551 --> 02:15:46,794
started playing 1888 while working. That's how I found out

2076
02:15:46,854 --> 02:15:49,796
the sad news. Please knight me, Sir Matt of the

2077
02:15:49,936 --> 02:15:53,518
Flight Levels. To quote John with my favorite of his

2078
02:15:53,558 --> 02:15:58,922
catchphrases, John, you really are dynamite. To the Dvorak family,

2079
02:15:58,962 --> 02:16:02,224
you are in my prayers. Adam, congratulations to your family.

2080
02:16:02,344 --> 02:16:06,907
Cleo is a gift from God. Fair skies and tailwinds,

2081
02:16:07,448 --> 02:16:12,951
JCD. Well, thank you, man. Thank you, man. Coming in

2082
02:16:12,971 --> 02:16:18,515
next, Alex Mandel with $1,000. different notes so I click

2083
02:16:18,595 --> 02:16:21,057
a different button all the magic just kind of happens.

2084
02:16:21,717 --> 02:16:26,060
Oh isn't that cool. Sure if it works. Wait, I

2085
02:16:26,120 --> 02:16:30,523
shouldn't have said that. Sorry. He says, dear Noah Jenner,

2086
02:16:30,523 --> 02:16:32,885
I've been debating doing an instant night for a while

2087
02:16:32,965 --> 02:16:35,707
and I kept putting it off because I wasn't sure

2088
02:16:35,907 --> 02:16:39,409
if it was really worth it. I was okay living

2089
02:16:39,469 --> 02:16:42,071
life as a douchebag and solely hitting others in the

2090
02:16:42,111 --> 02:16:45,133
mouth. After all, you were just some guys that I

2091
02:16:45,253 --> 02:16:48,175
listened to at work and in the car. Now that

2092
02:16:48,235 --> 02:16:50,917
John has passed, I know just how wrong I was

2093
02:16:51,017 --> 02:16:53,198
and how important both John and Adam have been in

2094
02:16:53,278 --> 02:16:58,682
my life. An unreplaceable staple of entertainment, information, and stories

2095
02:16:59,162 --> 02:17:03,045
for the better part of the last decade. Love you

2096
02:17:03,125 --> 02:17:06,607
both. Mina and sending love to the Dvorak family and

2097
02:17:06,928 --> 02:17:09,569
all of the other products of the No Agenda show.

2098
02:17:10,710 --> 02:17:15,053
Jingles, Alec Jones, chemtrails, frogsgay, oh there that has to

2099
02:17:15,093 --> 02:17:19,856
be it. See frogs gay. Can I make this bigger?

2100
02:17:20,577 --> 02:17:26,100
Maybe. I mean, I see there's a lot of... This

2101
02:17:26,181 --> 02:17:28,782
is gonna be such a learning curve. You know, I

2102
02:17:28,842 --> 02:17:33,285
could probably just search frogs. Really, Adam is like a

2103
02:17:33,405 --> 02:17:35,687
symphony conductor with all these things. I don't know how

2104
02:17:35,747 --> 02:17:38,729
he does this. I don't either. It's like magic. It

2105
02:17:38,789 --> 02:17:40,830
really is. I don't like them putting chemicals in the

2106
02:17:40,890 --> 02:17:46,254
water that turn the friggin' frogs gay! Adam was getting

2107
02:17:46,274 --> 02:17:48,195
pretty good, though, with his Alex Jones voice, too, I

2108
02:17:48,255 --> 02:17:52,878
will say. Yes, yes. And sure, Alex says, please call

2109
02:17:53,059 --> 02:17:57,061
out. Chuck the Trucker. Now that's an interesting name as

2110
02:17:57,141 --> 02:18:02,445
well. Douchebag. That was the call out? Yeah, for Chuck

2111
02:18:02,525 --> 02:18:05,767
the Trucker was a douchebag. So come on, Chuck the

2112
02:18:05,827 --> 02:18:09,430
Trucker, get on. Yeah. And for the roundtable, a bowl

2113
02:18:09,630 --> 02:18:13,472
of red Texas-style chili from Green Bay, Wisconsin. That I'm

2114
02:18:13,652 --> 02:18:16,314
still scratching my head, Alex, but I'll go along with

2115
02:18:16,374 --> 02:18:22,118
you. the red Texas-style chili, and a protein powder white

2116
02:18:22,338 --> 02:18:26,381
Russian. So I guess he's staying healthy while getting his

2117
02:18:27,141 --> 02:18:29,503
drink on. Not a bad idea. Sir Alex of the

2118
02:18:29,883 --> 02:18:33,646
Floyd River Valley. And we thank you for your support

2119
02:18:33,746 --> 02:18:38,649
of the best damn podcast in the universe. Sir Lucas

2120
02:18:38,829 --> 02:18:43,773
of the Lost Bits came in with $888.88 and just

2121
02:18:43,813 --> 02:18:47,975
says, Sir Lucas of the Lost Bits, JCD, you will

2122
02:18:48,276 --> 02:18:52,479
be missed. And yeah, that is an understatement. Yeah. Do

2123
02:18:52,499 --> 02:18:55,861
you want to take the next one? Sure. We've got

2124
02:18:56,161 --> 02:19:00,864
Sir Harrison of the Rednecks from Beaumont, Mississippi. MS is

2125
02:19:01,004 --> 02:19:07,709
Mississippi, huh? 888 Hattiesburg, Mississippi. And let's see. What is

2126
02:19:07,729 --> 02:19:12,252
he saying? Switcheroo. 500 of this goes to Sir Gopher

2127
02:19:12,312 --> 02:19:15,674
Gold. God bless the Dvorak family. God bless the Curry

2128
02:19:15,794 --> 02:19:19,317
family. You guys have been such a staple of my

2129
02:19:19,377 --> 02:19:27,162
amygdala shrinkage diet. Love you. Mean it. Commodore Sir Harrison

2130
02:19:27,302 --> 02:19:38,710
of the Rednecks. you've got Karma. It is magic. It

2131
02:19:38,830 --> 02:19:45,774
is. Zerproteus, Newark, Delaware, 888-88. And also, no jingles, no

2132
02:19:45,874 --> 02:19:49,417
karma. Well, thank you. Yes. Thank you, sir. Give him

2133
02:19:49,417 --> 02:19:58,483
a little double up. That's it. Yeah. Emily and Spiro.

2134
02:19:58,803 --> 02:20:01,525
Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, go ahead. Tammy and Spiro from

2135
02:20:02,065 --> 02:20:10,811
St. John, Indiana. 526.36 from Tammy and Spiro, longtime listeners,

2136
02:20:10,971 --> 02:20:16,055
two infrequent contributors. We love you and JCD. God rest

2137
02:20:16,115 --> 02:20:19,237
his soul and good luck in the future. And again,

2138
02:20:19,317 --> 02:20:22,299
no jingles. I'm loving these people. Makes it easy, huh?

2139
02:20:23,560 --> 02:20:30,985
you've got - when it's only on the same one,

2140
02:20:31,005 --> 02:20:33,106
then I don't have to find it. It's just there.

2141
02:20:34,607 --> 02:20:41,372
Robert Weber from Trabuco Canyon, California. of that place towards

2142
02:20:41,412 --> 02:20:45,174
the resurrection slash reincarnation of john whichever gets him back

2143
02:20:45,655 --> 02:20:48,316
he was such an important part someone a little a

2144
02:20:48,396 --> 02:20:52,379
fellow cranky old man can relate to it'll be sad

2145
02:20:52,459 --> 02:20:55,761
to hear new episodes without his voice we echo that

2146
02:20:56,082 --> 02:20:59,024
and uh but he was cranky in such a good

2147
02:20:59,124 --> 02:21:04,247
way He was. He really was. And, you know, I

2148
02:21:04,307 --> 02:21:07,029
was thinking, thought a lot about him. He was an

2149
02:21:07,049 --> 02:21:09,511
acquired taste. The more you heard, the more you liked,

2150
02:21:09,951 --> 02:21:13,593
really. And I think something about John that he had

2151
02:21:13,613 --> 02:21:16,996
that so few people have, and I'm going to say

2152
02:21:17,056 --> 02:21:19,757
he's in the entertainment business because he was for 18

2153
02:21:19,818 --> 02:21:27,102
years. John was devoid of schtick. heard him talking, it

2154
02:21:27,142 --> 02:21:29,104
was exactly who he is. You know what I mean?

2155
02:21:29,384 --> 02:21:33,086
Very few performers, what you hear publicly is not what

2156
02:21:33,126 --> 02:21:35,728
he's saying across the dinner table or when he's shaving

2157
02:21:35,788 --> 02:21:37,069
his face in the morning. You know what I mean?

2158
02:21:37,089 --> 02:21:38,890
It's kind of, there's a touch of a put on

2159
02:21:38,990 --> 02:21:43,854
in there. But John was ridiculously honest and authentic, you

2160
02:21:43,914 --> 02:21:47,616
know? Absolutely, and there was no jingles in there. It

2161
02:21:47,676 --> 02:21:55,682
was Tammy and Spiro were $526.36, Robert Weber $500. You

2162
02:21:55,702 --> 02:22:01,826
forgot the amounts. Sorry. karma This is called "Two Old

2163
02:22:01,906 --> 02:22:05,308
Guys Get Used to Reading a Spreadsheet." Exactly. You want

2164
02:22:05,328 --> 02:22:09,451
to do the next? Sure, this would be Tim Hedrick,

2165
02:22:09,551 --> 02:22:15,115
I guess. West Bradford, Pennsylvania, $500. Hi, Adam. I wanted

2166
02:22:15,135 --> 02:22:17,016
to say I'm sorry for the loss of your friend,

2167
02:22:17,096 --> 02:22:19,818
John. I can't imagine what you're going through along with

2168
02:22:19,858 --> 02:22:23,680
his family. I initially thought the news was fake, or

2169
02:22:23,780 --> 02:22:27,183
that I read the newsletter incorrectly when it went out

2170
02:22:27,243 --> 02:22:29,704
about John's passing. I'm a little late to the no

2171
02:22:29,765 --> 02:22:32,426
agenda party, but I was glad to find you guys

2172
02:22:32,486 --> 02:22:35,508
when I did. Your chemistry was so great and complimented

2173
02:22:35,548 --> 02:22:38,550
each other so well. I really don't know how you'd

2174
02:22:38,570 --> 02:22:41,813
move forward. I don't envy your position because naturally people

2175
02:22:41,873 --> 02:22:44,474
will be mad or complain about whatever is next to

2176
02:22:44,554 --> 02:22:49,017
work together with you. I actually bought a road caster

2177
02:22:49,118 --> 02:22:51,399
during COVID and tried to do something with my wife.

2178
02:22:51,599 --> 02:22:54,041
I even figured out how to clip stuff and have

2179
02:22:54,081 --> 02:22:56,242
sound effects. It was fun and exciting because it was

2180
02:22:56,242 --> 02:22:59,765
a new challenge for me. I've owned, operated this auto

2181
02:22:59,845 --> 02:23:04,308
body business since 2012 and it sucks. Insurance companies suck.

2182
02:23:04,368 --> 02:23:09,191
Yes, they do. battle. That's why you guys were great.

2183
02:23:09,791 --> 02:23:11,573
I could get real news from you guys and then

2184
02:23:11,633 --> 02:23:13,434
go home and tell my family to chill out about

2185
02:23:13,454 --> 02:23:17,296
the doom and gloom. I've since listed my podcasting stuff

2186
02:23:17,397 --> 02:23:19,918
on eBay, but would really like to get back into

2187
02:23:20,038 --> 02:23:23,481
doing something with it. I'm kind of an idiot. You

2188
02:23:23,561 --> 02:23:27,463
had mentioned the hyper-local podcast thing before. Is there somewhere

2189
02:23:27,503 --> 02:23:31,446
I can find more information about it? I live. We

2190
02:23:31,506 --> 02:23:34,428
have a trans mayor who says some wild things on

2191
02:23:34,488 --> 02:23:39,191
the internet. That's Downingtown, Pennsylvania. Good luck with everything moving

2192
02:23:39,251 --> 02:23:43,454
forward. I wish you the best, Tim. This guy is

2193
02:23:43,554 --> 02:23:46,296
so brave. Doing a podcast with your wife. Adam Curry

2194
02:23:46,376 --> 02:23:48,658
pulled it off. A lot of people, that could lead

2195
02:23:48,738 --> 02:23:51,800
to divorce. I wouldn't try it. That just would not

2196
02:23:51,860 --> 02:23:53,481
be good. My wife would not want to spend that

2197
02:23:53,541 --> 02:23:57,363
much time talking to me. And then the things that

2198
02:23:57,443 --> 02:24:00,085
I would find entertaining, you'd get that look like, no,

2199
02:24:00,145 --> 02:24:04,308
no, that's not for public air. As far as the

2200
02:24:04,368 --> 02:24:08,851
hyper-local stuff, I mean, it's... just cover your area. I

2201
02:24:08,891 --> 02:24:11,193
mean, that's the beauty of it. You don't have to

2202
02:24:12,273 --> 02:24:14,275
go out there with, Hey, we're going to be covering

2203
02:24:14,335 --> 02:24:16,536
the whole auto body business or we're doing this. Like

2204
02:24:16,596 --> 02:24:18,938
just do a podcast, name it about your town and

2205
02:24:19,038 --> 02:24:23,741
start small. Yeah, and if you want to... If you

2206
02:24:23,781 --> 02:24:27,824
want to kind of browse or comb for possible listeners,

2207
02:24:28,204 --> 02:24:34,829
that silly note, what is it called? Next door. platform

2208
02:24:35,269 --> 02:24:36,910
might be a way I mean just about every town

2209
02:24:36,970 --> 02:24:38,551
in this in the country I think is listed on

2210
02:24:38,631 --> 02:24:40,933
there you could you know plant some seeds there as

2211
02:24:40,973 --> 02:24:43,995
a beginning maybe get some stickers or put some you

2212
02:24:43,995 --> 02:24:46,316
know the the local grocery stores here I mean we

2213
02:24:46,376 --> 02:24:48,818
have a couple that are like the old-fashioned grocery stores

2214
02:24:48,858 --> 02:24:51,059
don't they still have like the peg you know board

2215
02:24:51,120 --> 02:24:54,382
where you lucky you That's it. If you live in

2216
02:24:54,442 --> 02:24:56,783
a small town, it shouldn't be hard. Or just walk

2217
02:24:56,903 --> 02:24:59,825
door to door and put a little wire in. Like,

2218
02:24:59,885 --> 02:25:02,007
listen to the podcast. Go here. Go to get a

2219
02:25:02,047 --> 02:25:06,250
podcasting 2.0 app. Either way, let us know if you

2220
02:25:06,470 --> 02:25:08,111
start that up, Tim. Because, I mean, if you need

2221
02:25:08,191 --> 02:25:10,853
any help, I can help you out with that kind

2222
02:25:10,913 --> 02:25:17,837
of stuff. coming in. No jingles there, so. you've got

2223
02:25:20,239 --> 02:25:26,003
Harma. Next on the list, J. Kelly Rapier from Frankfort,

2224
02:25:26,143 --> 02:25:30,546
Kentucky, which is $500 was a check and no notes,

2225
02:25:30,626 --> 02:25:40,052
so double it up. Thank you, J. Kelly. Karma. Next

2226
02:25:40,212 --> 02:25:47,217
is Victor Gregg from Corvallis, Oregon. Okay, yeah, Corvallis, I'll

2227
02:25:47,257 --> 02:25:50,720
buy that. I mean, I... I know people every now

2228
02:25:50,820 --> 02:25:53,021
and then were like, John can't get the names right.

2229
02:25:53,081 --> 02:25:54,722
I'm like, I'm going to be so much worse at

2230
02:25:54,802 --> 02:25:56,624
getting the names of towns right. I need to cheat.

2231
02:25:56,724 --> 02:25:59,045
I need to look them up. Have Grok give me

2232
02:25:59,125 --> 02:26:03,128
an explanation. pronunciation on it but Victor comes in with

2233
02:26:03,208 --> 02:26:08,071
409 40 In the morning, condolences from Baron Victor of

2234
02:26:08,171 --> 02:26:12,514
the Willamette Valley. I started reading John's columns and seeing

2235
02:26:12,554 --> 02:26:15,936
him on panels at tech shows during the 1980s. I

2236
02:26:16,477 --> 02:26:19,339
met him more than once prowling the aisles. He was

2237
02:26:19,479 --> 02:26:23,241
always good for a hello when I saw him. And

2238
02:26:23,482 --> 02:26:33,288
no jingles, no karma, so... you've got Karma. Looks like

2239
02:26:33,488 --> 02:26:42,674
we've got Quinterox Inc. of Bradenton, Florida. $350.93. Goodbye John

2240
02:26:42,755 --> 02:26:46,697
donation. He was like the father I always admired but

2241
02:26:46,777 --> 02:26:52,761
never met. There's a statement. The amount of people. that

2242
02:26:52,841 --> 02:26:55,003
were touched by John and I get it. I mean,

2243
02:26:55,083 --> 02:26:57,765
we only had a few emails going back and forth,

2244
02:26:57,845 --> 02:27:01,487
but was a part of your life for well over

2245
02:27:01,567 --> 02:27:04,069
a decade. And I remember going back to him giving

2246
02:27:04,129 --> 02:27:06,711
Leo crap, which was always the best part of Twit.

2247
02:27:07,971 --> 02:27:12,835
And when he did... The end. it had to be

2248
02:27:12,895 --> 02:27:17,138
cranky geeks where he would throw the little thing, like

2249
02:27:17,238 --> 02:27:19,879
the card, like David Letterman was. And I'm like, Oh,

2250
02:27:20,740 --> 02:27:23,582
it's okay to, you know, emulate things and make fun

2251
02:27:23,662 --> 02:27:26,724
of them and, and rip off the bits from other

2252
02:27:26,784 --> 02:27:28,505
people and kind of take it and make it your

2253
02:27:28,705 --> 02:27:35,250
own. And. Hmm. You get to... Somebody pointed that out

2254
02:27:35,310 --> 02:27:39,693
on one of those last two JCD. episodes that you

2255
02:27:39,753 --> 02:27:42,915
know he didn't know you but you knew him there's

2256
02:27:42,995 --> 02:27:44,816
no doubt about it so people i didn't know him

2257
02:27:44,876 --> 02:27:48,178
it's like but you did It seems like he was

2258
02:27:48,239 --> 02:27:51,100
the guy we hear in each one of those episodes

2259
02:27:51,140 --> 02:27:53,362
that we had over the last 19 years, as you

2260
02:27:53,462 --> 02:27:57,405
said, authentic. Which is one of the biggest compliments Larry

2261
02:27:57,485 --> 02:27:59,706
ever gave me early on was like, well, your podcast

2262
02:27:59,806 --> 02:28:03,329
is authentic. And if you can do that. That is

2263
02:28:03,389 --> 02:28:07,792
going to get you way further than trying to... pretend

2264
02:28:07,912 --> 02:28:11,734
that you're something else. Good idea. Ray Javier coming in

2265
02:28:11,794 --> 02:28:17,598
from Davis, California with $350.58 says, In the morning, my

2266
02:28:17,698 --> 02:28:19,620
wife and I were shocked when we heard of John's

2267
02:28:19,680 --> 02:28:22,462
passing. He became the father figure we didn't know we

2268
02:28:22,602 --> 02:28:25,544
needed. We've been listening to every No Agenda episode since

2269
02:28:25,604 --> 02:28:29,366
2021 and will always cherish what we had for twice

2270
02:28:29,386 --> 02:28:33,249
a week. Sorry for being a douche for so long.

2271
02:28:33,269 --> 02:28:35,570
Don't have to give him a dedouching. You guys put

2272
02:28:36,191 --> 02:28:40,974
on incredible performances week in and... and week out, and

2273
02:28:40,994 --> 02:28:45,097
the value generated was immeasurable. Whenever we drove up and

2274
02:28:45,157 --> 02:28:49,219
down 80 and saw Albany Hill, we always wondered which

2275
02:28:49,280 --> 02:28:51,621
house might be John's and thought it was so cool

2276
02:28:51,681 --> 02:28:56,124
to hear No Agenda live while passing by. Our deepest

2277
02:28:56,184 --> 02:29:01,568
condolences to Dvorak and the No Agenda family. And that

2278
02:29:01,748 --> 02:29:14,056
comes from Ray. You've been dedouched. Next one there, please.

2279
02:29:14,116 --> 02:29:17,559
All right. This is from Matt S. from Rosedale, New

2280
02:29:17,639 --> 02:29:52,582
York. 343.75 I would never find anywhere else. Never underestimate

2281
02:29:52,622 --> 02:29:56,044
your impact on us all. From my wife, our little

2282
02:29:56,084 --> 02:29:58,826
guy, and I, we want to send our love to

2283
02:29:58,906 --> 02:29:59,887
JCD's family.

2284
02:30:00,059 --> 02:30:04,842
friends, especially Adam, as this must be incredibly hard. Thank

2285
02:30:04,922 --> 02:30:06,583
you for turning me on to the show when I

2286
02:30:06,684 --> 02:30:10,506
lived in Hoboken, New Jersey. Sir Smokes-A-Lot, now in New

2287
02:30:10,546 --> 02:30:14,489
Hampshire. Sir DJ Fuji, and our dear friend who left

2288
02:30:14,569 --> 02:30:18,131
us early and is with JCD, Super Steve. He is

2289
02:30:18,171 --> 02:30:21,694
a knight, but don't remember his name. This is my

2290
02:30:21,774 --> 02:30:28,518
first donation. As long-time listener, please de-douche me. You guys

2291
02:30:28,518 --> 02:30:32,241
helped get me through the chaos of COVID. No jingles,

2292
02:30:32,561 --> 02:30:36,343
just five-second pause to remember the cranky old man's voice.

2293
02:30:37,284 --> 02:30:41,627
I'll miss hearing it eternally grateful. now a family man

2294
02:30:41,907 --> 02:30:45,269
in Queens. Okay, so we're de-douching and then a five

2295
02:30:45,370 --> 02:30:57,698
second pause. You've been de-douched. And E&J Electric coming in

2296
02:30:57,778 --> 02:31:04,803
from Colorado Springs, Colorado with $333.88. And there's an attachment.

2297
02:31:04,923 --> 02:31:07,064
That is a beautiful area. I haven't been there since

2298
02:31:07,164 --> 02:31:10,006
I was 10 years old in a place called the

2299
02:31:10,066 --> 02:31:12,628
Broadmoor with my parents. And now I probably can't afford

2300
02:31:12,628 --> 02:31:16,731
it because I'm a podcaster. Just a beautiful area. And

2301
02:31:16,791 --> 02:31:20,233
this was a very interesting donation note because it comes

2302
02:31:20,413 --> 02:31:25,116
in, which looks like it's an invoice from his company.

2303
02:31:25,176 --> 02:31:27,318
But instead of invoice, it says donation note with a

2304
02:31:27,378 --> 02:31:31,921
reference of $333.88. I mean, the whole bit. And he

2305
02:31:31,981 --> 02:31:34,242
says ad spot, but it's not really an ad spot.

2306
02:31:34,322 --> 02:31:37,805
Howdy, this is Justin Robinson with ENJ Electric, your independent

2307
02:31:37,845 --> 02:31:42,588
electrical contractor, proudly servicing Colorado Springs and the surrounding areas.

2308
02:31:42,728 --> 02:31:45,350
Why am I yelling? I don't get to pick my

2309
02:31:45,450 --> 02:31:48,132
customers, so I thought that it would be nice if

2310
02:31:48,232 --> 02:31:50,533
I could occasionally work with the fine people in the

2311
02:31:50,573 --> 02:31:57,018
NOAA Gena community. Find us at ENJElectric.com. That's Echo November

2312
02:31:57,138 --> 02:32:03,902
Juliet Electric.com. you hooked up. It says, note, I've been

2313
02:32:03,942 --> 02:32:06,204
telling myself that I need to get this donation out

2314
02:32:06,284 --> 02:32:09,326
before one of you actually finds an exit strategy, dot,

2315
02:32:09,446 --> 02:32:12,748
dot, dot. My last donation was a handwritten note with

2316
02:32:13,028 --> 02:32:16,010
one crisp hundo read by John back when you would

2317
02:32:16,070 --> 02:32:19,173
read everything above 50 bucks. I'm not on the internet

2318
02:32:19,233 --> 02:32:22,135
much. My only knowledge of John was no agenda. I've

2319
02:32:22,175 --> 02:32:24,836
never seen video clips of him and have only seen

2320
02:32:24,916 --> 02:32:27,418
a handful of pictures. Well, you should go look for

2321
02:32:27,458 --> 02:32:30,680
some of the videos. They're great. This was a theater

2322
02:32:30,760 --> 02:32:33,142
of the mind that I really enjoyed having listened to

2323
02:32:33,222 --> 02:32:37,285
him for 15 plus years. My brain was constantly filling

2324
02:32:37,305 --> 02:32:40,267
in the blanks. It's nice to hear everyone's stories as

2325
02:32:40,347 --> 02:32:45,070
it helps to paint a more complete picture of JCD.

2326
02:32:45,230 --> 02:32:49,453
Well, thank you very much, Justin. It is appreciated. You

2327
02:32:49,513 --> 02:32:51,114
want to do the next one there, Larry? Yes, we

2328
02:32:51,214 --> 02:33:20,394
have Charles Neal from Austin, Texas, 33333. jingle And a

2329
02:33:20,394 --> 02:33:22,955
big bowl of it at the round table. Thank you

2330
02:33:23,015 --> 02:33:26,158
for your courage. I'd like my night name again to

2331
02:33:26,218 --> 02:33:32,402
be Sir Gopher Gold. Slaves can get used to mac

2332
02:33:32,482 --> 02:33:35,424
and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Macaroni and

2333
02:33:35,644 --> 02:33:39,587
cheap cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese.

2334
02:33:39,807 --> 02:33:45,531
Mac and cheese. There's so many clips on here. I

2335
02:33:45,631 --> 02:33:47,752
can't believe how many mac and cheese clips there are.

2336
02:33:48,413 --> 02:33:50,834
Really? Hot Father, how do you know which one's which?

2337
02:33:50,974 --> 02:33:59,400
Chap Williams coming in from Edmonton, Oklahoma. $333.33. via a

2338
02:33:59,660 --> 02:34:03,182
check with, I guess, no notes, so no note, no

2339
02:34:03,363 --> 02:34:11,408
jingles, and... We can double up. Yeah. You've got... karma.

2340
02:34:14,850 --> 02:34:20,134
The Vince Ferro. Oh, no, no address. Just, uh, this

2341
02:34:20,214 --> 02:34:24,757
is a truly anonymous one, I guess. 315.85. I guess

2342
02:34:24,817 --> 02:34:26,898
that's parts unknown, the epitome of that. I guess so,

2343
02:34:27,279 --> 02:34:38,046
yeah. You've got harm line. We got Was Night of

2344
02:34:38,146 --> 02:34:43,349
the Baying Coonhound from Burlington, Connecticut. Oh, not far from

2345
02:34:43,389 --> 02:34:49,574
Larry's. $288 even says, thank you, JCD. I miss you,

2346
02:34:49,674 --> 02:34:53,937
but my hope is to see you in heaven. We

2347
02:34:54,037 --> 02:35:05,484
know jingles, no karma. You've got... karma Andrea Ludlam from

2348
02:35:05,704 --> 02:35:22,796
Holmes Beach, Florida 280.74 R.I.P. John. you've got Karma. Oh

2349
02:35:22,876 --> 02:35:24,917
no, the next one, we need Adam for the reading

2350
02:35:24,957 --> 02:35:30,201
of Sir Remco Nida Tivissa. This, I guess. Ooh, look

2351
02:35:30,261 --> 02:35:37,426
at this place. Baroness Rotterdam. and uh sir remco knight

2352
02:35:37,506 --> 02:35:43,270
of tavissa and from in fairness, Rotterdam, as John's one

2353
02:35:43,330 --> 02:35:48,453
said, well, John said it was penis. No doubt. Cause

2354
02:35:48,493 --> 02:35:50,635
that's where exactly probably what I would have said as

2355
02:35:50,715 --> 02:35:54,077
well. Of course. He says, I had no idea that

2356
02:35:54,277 --> 02:35:56,659
a man I'd never met and listened to more than

2357
02:35:56,739 --> 02:35:59,260
my girlfriend. Oh, don't tell her that as she herself

2358
02:35:59,361 --> 02:36:03,363
pointed out would cause my eyes to leak this often.

2359
02:36:04,184 --> 02:36:06,926
Dame tooth. Hola. And I have put John's picture on

2360
02:36:06,986 --> 02:36:10,128
the wall of our office for guidance and much needed.

2361
02:36:10,408 --> 02:36:15,311
wisdom. And there's a message in Dutch for Adam that

2362
02:36:15,371 --> 02:36:17,553
I'm not even going to try. And to Mimi and

2363
02:36:17,613 --> 02:36:21,475
the kids, stay strong and thank you for all of

2364
02:36:21,515 --> 02:36:24,477
your courage. Well, thank you, Sir Remco. And I'm sorry

2365
02:36:24,537 --> 02:36:32,323
for butchering your name and probably city. You've got Harma.

2366
02:36:35,125 --> 02:36:40,968
Okay, Manuka Gold from Hudson, Florida, $250. From the Manuka

2367
02:36:41,029 --> 02:36:44,011
Gold family, just a donation to keep supporting the show.

2368
02:36:44,451 --> 02:36:47,613
We hope Adam has a nice break. And a reminder

2369
02:36:47,933 --> 02:36:51,596
that Code Freedom for 20% off is still active at

2370
02:36:51,836 --> 02:36:58,400
ManukaGold.com to celebrate America on her big 250th birthday. Well,

2371
02:36:58,440 --> 02:37:00,442
thank you. I mean, they actually acknowledged that they knew

2372
02:37:00,582 --> 02:37:03,083
we would be the Yahoo's reading and they donated that.

2373
02:37:03,143 --> 02:37:06,065
Isn't that cool? Yeah, thank you. I hear their stuff's

2374
02:37:06,125 --> 02:37:10,308
really good. I'll have to get me some. Yes. And

2375
02:37:10,408 --> 02:37:16,092
coming in next, CJ Schmock from Nantucket. $250 with the

2376
02:37:16,192 --> 02:37:20,715
note that says worst exit strategy ever. will be missed

2377
02:37:20,775 --> 02:37:23,357
and yeah this is uh this is certainly not the

2378
02:37:23,397 --> 02:37:33,404
best exit strategy Darcy Morris of Hanover, Massachusetts, 238.88. This

2379
02:37:33,544 --> 02:37:36,806
news sneakily hit me in the feels. Sorry to hear

2380
02:37:36,826 --> 02:37:40,829
about JCD. Sending 88.88 plus 50 for each of the

2381
02:37:40,889 --> 02:37:45,592
three jamokes uttered since my last donation. Take care, Darcy.

2382
02:37:49,515 --> 02:38:02,423
You've got... Karma. Patrick D. Buote from... What's it? Musta...

2383
02:38:03,464 --> 02:38:08,347
Let's see. Muska-do-bo-it? Muska-do-bo-it? Harbor? Is that it? Nova Scotia.

2384
02:38:08,347 --> 02:38:09,948
Well, I know it's Canada, so at least I've got

2385
02:38:09,968 --> 02:38:13,150
that. He says, as I sit at the computer with

2386
02:38:13,230 --> 02:38:15,392
a heavy heart, I struggle to type my thoughts and

2387
02:38:15,452 --> 02:38:18,614
feelings. Both John and Adam have become mentors to me

2388
02:38:18,794 --> 02:38:21,856
over the last six years or so. John was one

2389
02:38:21,896 --> 02:38:24,538
of those people you could only come across every so

2390
02:38:24,698 --> 02:38:28,781
often in life. I always admired his ability to articulate

2391
02:38:28,821 --> 02:38:32,403
his opinions in such a clear and concise manner while

2392
02:38:32,523 --> 02:38:35,285
keeping his cool for the most part. Oh yeah, there's

2393
02:38:35,365 --> 02:38:39,808
audio clips. Whether I was hearing about another unique career

2394
02:38:39,908 --> 02:38:42,850
he had use of a word I had never heard

2395
02:38:43,010 --> 02:38:46,933
of, John never ceased to impress me. I had hoped

2396
02:38:47,053 --> 02:38:48,954
one day to meet him in person in a way

2397
02:38:49,075 --> 02:38:53,478
I feel like I had already done so through this

2398
02:38:53,598 --> 02:38:58,941
amazing show. Rest in peace, JCD. Sincerely, Patrick. And he

2399
02:38:58,981 --> 02:39:01,663
came in with 23636. And I missed that because of

2400
02:39:01,703 --> 02:39:05,786
the name of the city, probably. And you can do

2401
02:39:05,786 --> 02:39:10,929
the next one before. David Powers from Bangkapi. I don't

2402
02:39:10,929 --> 02:39:13,231
know where this is, Darren. The initials are TS for

2403
02:39:13,271 --> 02:39:18,274
the nation. Thailand? What's TH? I don't know. TH. I

2404
02:39:18,334 --> 02:39:21,636
should know. Shame on me. David says, hey, y'all, sending

2405
02:39:22,177 --> 02:39:26,039
all of the love and my sincerest condolences to... Amazing

2406
02:39:26,119 --> 02:39:29,162
listening and reading so many wonderful accounts about John on

2407
02:39:29,442 --> 02:39:32,184
NA and X, and the positive impact he had on

2408
02:39:32,324 --> 02:39:34,785
so many of us for so many years. There's so

2409
02:39:34,845 --> 02:39:36,847
much I want to say, but in honor of John,

2410
02:39:36,907 --> 02:39:39,468
we'll do my best to keep it short. I've been

2411
02:39:39,468 --> 02:39:41,430
hitting people in the mouth for years, but this is

2412
02:39:41,490 --> 02:39:45,252
my first monetary donation, so please de-douche me. I would

2413
02:39:45,272 --> 02:39:47,754
also like to ask you for all of your No

2414
02:39:47,814 --> 02:39:50,996
Agendas family to help in getting my YouTube channel monetized.

2415
02:39:51,737 --> 02:39:56,760
I'm getting there, and every bit counts. cities, mostly Bangkok,

2416
02:39:56,800 --> 02:40:01,984
Thailand, and filmed POV walks and motorbike rides partially as

2417
02:40:02,004 --> 02:40:04,865
a way to document these cities during these times, but

2418
02:40:04,886 --> 02:40:07,367
also to give people from other countries a glimpse into

2419
02:40:07,467 --> 02:40:11,270
what other people's day-to-day lives look like. They're great to

2420
02:40:11,330 --> 02:40:13,791
have on in the background while you're working for the

2421
02:40:13,912 --> 02:40:17,534
ambient environment, but there's always near things to see if

2422
02:40:17,594 --> 02:40:20,216
you watch. I have plans to travel more when I

2423
02:40:20,316 --> 02:40:23,358
finish my Thai language studies, as well as new series

2424
02:40:23,378 --> 02:40:28,021
for the channel exploring cuisines Southeast Asia and beyond. Please

2425
02:40:28,341 --> 02:40:31,724
check out my long format videos on YouTube, Go Slow

2426
02:40:31,864 --> 02:40:38,188
Faster, and short form videos on TikTok, go.slow.faster, and IG,

2427
02:40:38,968 --> 02:40:42,050
Go Slow Faster. I also need karma. I'm sorry. I

2428
02:40:42,151 --> 02:40:45,213
also need jobs karma and dealer's choice of a clip

2429
02:40:45,313 --> 02:40:50,776
featuring John, please. Love and lit, David Pappy Powers. You've

2430
02:40:50,856 --> 02:41:01,864
got... jobs jobs jobs jobs jobs jobs karma Coincidence? I

2431
02:41:02,064 --> 02:41:05,166
think not! Hey, did that actually work? You know, I

2432
02:41:05,266 --> 02:41:08,248
noticed in the troll room, I totally forgot to count

2433
02:41:08,268 --> 02:41:11,390
the trolls! Uh oh. How could I forget to count

2434
02:41:11,410 --> 02:41:14,632
the trolls? Oh no, train wreck! Right now, we've got

2435
02:41:14,672 --> 02:41:20,176
539 people listening with a peak of 888. So, I

2436
02:41:20,236 --> 02:41:23,318
mean, thank you to everybody. Yes, thank you. For coming

2437
02:41:23,478 --> 02:41:26,761
out to hear us try not to totally destroy Adam's

2438
02:41:26,801 --> 02:41:32,004
intellectual property all in one quick afternoon. It is very

2439
02:41:32,084 --> 02:41:34,746
much appreciated. We got those jingles, and what do we

2440
02:41:34,846 --> 02:41:39,229
got next? Michael Flynn, I think, from Spokane. Or Spokane,

2441
02:41:39,289 --> 02:41:46,394
as they say. Yeah, Spokane, Washington. $218.89 in remembrance of

2442
02:41:46,714 --> 02:41:55,460
John C. Dvorak. Then, Climpsy Scaliano with "Parts Unknown." $210.60

2443
02:41:55,480 --> 02:41:58,662
followed John since the PC Magazine days, early 90s to

2444
02:41:58,722 --> 02:42:01,684
me. I'm still in shock and tear up when I

2445
02:42:01,784 --> 02:42:05,366
think about it. The first six hours of tribute were

2446
02:42:05,447 --> 02:42:08,489
rough. I get that. I'm thankful for the seven hour

2447
02:42:08,809 --> 02:42:12,051
plus hours of clips to make me laugh. Clint C.

2448
02:42:12,731 --> 02:42:19,816
Galliano, realtor in South Louisiana. the, uh, with JC, I

2449
02:42:19,896 --> 02:42:21,157
didn't know. I knew it was going to hit me

2450
02:42:21,237 --> 02:42:24,840
at some point. But it was just at the end

2451
02:42:24,920 --> 02:42:27,301
of the pre-show. And again, I know that was him

2452
02:42:27,902 --> 02:42:32,465
having some fun with me. Sure. Jonathan Reisman, Chesterfield, Missouri,

2453
02:42:32,785 --> 02:42:37,148
$210.12. So sad to hear that JCD is no longer

2454
02:42:37,188 --> 02:42:40,830
with us. My deepest condolences to Adam, the Dvorak family.

2455
02:42:40,850 --> 02:42:44,513
Now my wife and I listen in twice a week.

2456
02:42:44,633 --> 02:42:47,535
Thank you for all you do from Cody. Oh, I

2457
02:42:47,615 --> 02:42:50,217
just skipped a line. I'm sorry. My deepest condolences to

2458
02:42:50,357 --> 02:42:55,080
Adam, the Dvorak family, so much value from John and

2459
02:42:55,180 --> 02:43:03,846
his work. John Wyden from Kodiak, Alaska. $200 says continued

2460
02:43:03,886 --> 02:43:07,068
heartfelt prayers for the Dvorak family. My sons introduced me

2461
02:43:07,148 --> 02:43:09,750
to the show. Now my wife and I listen twice

2462
02:43:09,790 --> 02:43:13,432
a week. Thank you for all you do all the

2463
02:43:13,452 --> 02:43:17,875
way from Alaska. That must be fun. Linda DuPartkin of

2464
02:43:17,955 --> 02:43:20,637
Castle Rock, Colorado. Oh, look at this. No, no, Linda

2465
02:43:20,737 --> 02:43:25,160
LuPatkin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Darren and Larry, thanks

2466
02:43:25,180 --> 02:43:29,023
for stepping in. Big shoes to fill. Jobs karma. For

2467
02:43:29,063 --> 02:43:31,765
a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go

2468
02:43:31,925 --> 02:43:37,088
to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search

2469
02:43:37,208 --> 02:43:41,471
needs. That's ImageMakersInc with a K and work with Linda

2470
02:43:41,551 --> 02:43:49,256
Lu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. jobs.

2471
02:43:50,717 --> 02:43:57,802
John. Good job. Good old Joe Biden. That's exactly how

2472
02:43:57,922 --> 02:44:00,764
he normally speaks, too. That's it, yeah. I was expecting

2473
02:44:00,784 --> 02:44:03,746
Hillary, but that was even better. It's like an all-random

2474
02:44:03,846 --> 02:44:07,428
day. That's the fun. Then Martin Benes came in with

2475
02:44:07,428 --> 02:44:13,012
199.02 with no jingles, no karma. So that is very

2476
02:44:13,112 --> 02:44:17,375
much appreciated. I think we missed one on the other

2477
02:44:17,475 --> 02:44:27,522
one as well. you've got karma. Dame Stacey of Yellowstone

2478
02:44:27,562 --> 02:44:31,945
County and the Black Hills. 198.91 in the morning. There's

2479
02:44:31,985 --> 02:44:35,467
nothing I can say that already hasn't been said. John

2480
02:44:35,547 --> 02:44:37,649
added so much to this world and will be greatly

2481
02:44:37,749 --> 02:44:40,571
missed. Love and prayers to you all. Love and light.

2482
02:44:40,771 --> 02:44:45,354
Dame Stacey of Yellowstone County and the Black Hills. Then

2483
02:44:45,434 --> 02:44:51,698
we have Amanda from Minnesota, Minnesota Nuts with $198.89. Donating

2484
02:44:51,738 --> 02:44:54,240
has been on my I'll get to it list. I

2485
02:44:54,240 --> 02:44:58,183
never imagined it would be under these circumstances. With deepest

2486
02:44:58,283 --> 02:44:59,824
condolences, John was...

2487
02:45:00,036 --> 02:45:04,539
Really a fabulous product, toasting his legacy with a terrific

2488
02:45:04,639 --> 02:45:10,143
Kirkland wine. Cheers and thank you, Amanda from Minnesota. And

2489
02:45:10,163 --> 02:45:12,824
yeah, JCD, I know he cost me money. My wife

2490
02:45:12,844 --> 02:45:16,487
doesn't even like drink wine, but anytime he had a

2491
02:45:17,187 --> 02:45:18,868
wine tip, it was like, I got to go to

2492
02:45:18,888 --> 02:45:21,510
Costco. We can give him his gift. I'm like, okay,

2493
02:45:21,630 --> 02:45:30,376
it's always costing me money. Here's one from stirstregalicious19797. IT

2494
02:45:30,817 --> 02:45:33,959
morning. My deepest condolences to Mimi, Adam, and all the

2495
02:45:33,979 --> 02:45:39,943
No Agenda family. John will truly be missed. NJNK, Sir

2496
02:45:40,083 --> 02:45:44,486
Stregalicious. Yeah, I said it right, Stregalicious. And coming in

2497
02:45:44,546 --> 02:45:50,009
next, Mark Cram with 188.88, says Adam, Mimi, and family.

2498
02:45:50,630 --> 02:45:52,551
Son-in-law hit me in the mouth while he was recovering.

2499
02:45:53,272 --> 02:45:56,674
with us after having his appendix removed while on a

2500
02:45:56,714 --> 02:46:00,116
business trip in 2020. Ooh, that's no fun to begin

2501
02:46:00,116 --> 02:46:02,958
with, but on a trip, that's worse. Haven't missed a

2502
02:46:03,018 --> 02:46:06,521
show since. Thank you for all. Love and laughter. May

2503
02:46:06,601 --> 02:46:09,683
God bless you and the show. John will be missed,

2504
02:46:09,743 --> 02:46:14,646
but his DNA will always remain in the enterprise. It's

2505
02:46:14,666 --> 02:46:16,948
a good way to think about it. That is. That's

2506
02:46:16,948 --> 02:46:25,793
a cool phrase. Mark Cram. at 88. You're on the

2507
02:46:25,853 --> 02:46:29,556
Duke. I'm on the Duke. My mess. Duke of San

2508
02:46:29,596 --> 02:46:33,899
Francisco, San Francisco, U.S., of course, 16699. The Duke of

2509
02:46:33,919 --> 02:46:38,242
San Francisco is mourning the passing of J.C.D. As Commodore

2510
02:46:38,622 --> 02:46:41,384
of the San Francisco Bay, I declare a meetup at

2511
02:46:41,604 --> 02:46:47,788
the Duke of Edinburgh in Cupertino. at 5.33 p.m. dot

2512
02:46:47,868 --> 02:46:54,913
com. Joseph Stegman, Thousand Oaks, California came in with 128.63

2513
02:46:55,113 --> 02:46:57,034
with no note, which is real. I guess it's the

2514
02:46:57,114 --> 02:46:59,196
no note that we do the double up karma for.

2515
02:46:59,256 --> 02:47:12,645
Yeah, yes. It's karma. Mark McGuff, Benson, North Carolina. Rest

2516
02:47:12,725 --> 02:47:17,328
in- Sincere condolences to Mimi, Adam, family, and friends. Started

2517
02:47:17,368 --> 02:47:20,850
listening during the scandemic. Going to miss hearing John weekly.

2518
02:47:21,171 --> 02:47:24,853
God bless. And the way I kind of thought about

2519
02:47:24,933 --> 02:47:27,935
it earlier, that No Agenda had this story a few

2520
02:47:28,055 --> 02:47:31,958
weeks back of the girl, she had her license, but

2521
02:47:32,458 --> 02:47:35,821
when the flight instructor jumped out mid-flight and was just

2522
02:47:35,821 --> 02:47:38,522
like, you know what to do! That's kind of how

2523
02:47:38,622 --> 02:47:46,708
I feel today. Lisa Mikulski coming in with 118.89. John

2524
02:47:46,808 --> 02:47:50,971
put the C in. cars on the Zephyr, Costco wine

2525
02:47:51,071 --> 02:47:55,814
recommendations, and cynicism mixed with charm. John put the C

2526
02:47:56,194 --> 02:47:59,977
in cold reads and mispronunciations in the donation segments that

2527
02:48:00,037 --> 02:48:04,940
made me smile. and clue and a clever one was

2528
02:48:05,601 --> 02:48:08,863
with the January 12th, 2025 horrible tip of the day,

2529
02:48:09,423 --> 02:48:13,466
which was a simple search revealed his true age. I've

2530
02:48:13,506 --> 02:48:16,848
known since that that something didn't add up. Maybe he

2531
02:48:16,908 --> 02:48:20,911
was trying to tell us something. Most importantly, John put

2532
02:48:20,951 --> 02:48:24,313
the C in courage as in thank you. courage to

2533
02:48:24,493 --> 02:48:30,437
Adam, Mimi, JC, And Brennan, the show Thursday was full

2534
02:48:30,517 --> 02:48:33,679
of laughs and tears. Thank you for opening up your

2535
02:48:33,739 --> 02:48:38,122
hearts, memories, and raw emotions. the whole of Gitmo Nation

2536
02:48:38,262 --> 02:48:41,865
and allowing us to share that with you. My deepest

2537
02:48:41,925 --> 02:48:45,687
sympathies to you all as you take on the challenge

2538
02:48:45,747 --> 02:48:50,611
to carry on John's legacy. Well, thank you, Lisa. And

2539
02:48:50,691 --> 02:48:53,273
I didn't realize the must have been that true people

2540
02:48:53,353 --> 02:48:55,894
search that John recommended. His real age was there. We

2541
02:48:55,954 --> 02:48:57,976
could have known. Wow. We would have just looked him

2542
02:48:58,096 --> 02:49:05,901
up. So easy. Valerie Ray of Puget Sound. Texas 114.69

2543
02:49:06,141 --> 02:49:17,669
and... no jingles, just thank you Valerie. You've got... That

2544
02:49:17,749 --> 02:49:24,914
also goes for Samuel Thomas Parts Unknown with 105.69. And

2545
02:49:24,994 --> 02:49:36,522
Debra... Debra Keenum, 105.35. I eagerly got in my car

2546
02:49:36,622 --> 02:49:38,823
Friday morning ready to listen to the No Agenda show

2547
02:49:38,903 --> 02:49:42,986
on my way to work. opening and cried. I've been

2548
02:49:42,986 --> 02:49:45,868
a listener for over two years. JCD brought humor and

2549
02:49:45,968 --> 02:49:49,610
wisdom. He will be missed, but he impacted so many

2550
02:49:49,690 --> 02:49:56,355
lives. Absolutely true. Thank you. Andrew Grasso of Mendiola, New

2551
02:49:56,395 --> 02:50:00,878
York. My wife talked me into buying a starter home

2552
02:50:00,978 --> 02:50:03,340
down the street from her parents and around the corner

2553
02:50:03,420 --> 02:50:06,182
from her sisters and aunts. Oh, this sounds like everybody

2554
02:50:06,262 --> 02:50:08,963
loves Raymond. The type of home and neighborhood is not

2555
02:50:09,023 --> 02:50:11,365
what I wanted for my life, but now I begun

2556
02:50:11,465 --> 02:50:16,609
to understand that we will never be leaving with deference

2557
02:50:16,649 --> 02:50:20,111
to John C. And his memory, please night me, sir.

2558
02:50:20,271 --> 02:50:24,514
Grasso reluctant night of miniola at the round table. I

2559
02:50:24,614 --> 02:50:29,998
request Manuka gold, a surprisingly great cheese. I discovered, Oh

2560
02:50:30,078 --> 02:50:35,021
no, I'm sorry. It's a, uh, Mary Gouda. Yeah. I

2561
02:50:35,221 --> 02:50:37,743
see bad eyes. I saw Manuka gold. That's not right.

2562
02:50:38,103 --> 02:50:42,006
I did too. A surprisingly great cheese. that I discovered

2563
02:50:42,686 --> 02:50:46,789
from Wisconsin made by a Dutch immigrant. As for the

2564
02:50:46,889 --> 02:50:51,532
wine, I'll let John C. make the selection. Oh, it's

2565
02:50:51,592 --> 02:50:58,317
cool. Signed, Andrew Grasso. Thank you. Robert Stokes. No address.

2566
02:50:58,317 --> 02:51:05,722
10335. Rest in peace. John C. Dvorak. Next one. Michael

2567
02:51:06,002 --> 02:51:13,787
Stepnitska. Vienna, Virginia. $100. Indeed, I really miss his analysis

2568
02:51:13,887 --> 02:51:17,089
as well as learning what he put the C in.

2569
02:51:17,189 --> 02:51:21,012
My condolences to John's family and to you as well.

2570
02:51:21,072 --> 02:51:27,436
Well, thank you, Michael. Dita and Jack, Cumberland, Forsyth, Maine.

2571
02:51:28,277 --> 02:51:31,319
We were lost during COVID. Then we were found. Because

2572
02:51:31,379 --> 02:51:34,701
John and Adam were around. Their deconstruction gives us hope

2573
02:51:34,941 --> 02:51:38,323
to understand news and not be a dope. Now John's

2574
02:51:38,383 --> 02:51:42,366
crossed the threshold. He will be sorely missed. but the

2575
02:51:42,406 --> 02:51:47,510
show must go on or he will be pissed. RIP

2576
02:51:47,950 --> 02:51:52,473
JCD. Love and light to all. D-Daw and Jack, Cumberland,

2577
02:51:52,613 --> 02:51:58,777
Forsyth, Maine. Felix Komichi comes in with $100 from Farmington,

2578
02:51:58,877 --> 02:52:02,840
Connecticut. Rest in peace, JCD. Your memory will live on.

2579
02:52:02,960 --> 02:52:06,502
Thank you for the laughter and the memories. Thank you,

2580
02:52:06,622 --> 02:52:13,147
Felix. Adam G. Hurst, Heathcote, Australia. Thank you both, Adam.

2581
02:52:13,187 --> 02:52:17,350
That's $100. Thank you. part of my daily life for

2582
02:52:17,370 --> 02:52:21,753
the past six years, listening every morning on my John's

2583
02:52:21,813 --> 02:52:25,115
passing leaves a hole that can never be filled. Rest

2584
02:52:25,195 --> 02:52:28,777
in peace, John C.D. Thoughts and prayers to Mimi and

2585
02:52:28,857 --> 02:52:34,942
family. John Buell coming in from Vista, California with $100,

2586
02:52:35,402 --> 02:52:47,990
no note. So double them up. You've got... karma. Ezra

2587
02:52:48,270 --> 02:52:55,415
from Brisvegas, Australia, 94. Hello Adam, Mimi, and family. My

2588
02:52:55,455 --> 02:52:57,997
deepest condolences, I've been listening to Adam and John since

2589
02:52:57,997 --> 02:53:02,020
2014. Thanks to Grimerica. Please dedouche me, for I have

2590
02:53:02,100 --> 02:53:04,982
sinned. John was the father figure I never had. Man,

2591
02:53:05,062 --> 02:53:09,625
we hear that a lot, don't we? Never met and

2592
02:53:09,685 --> 02:53:12,807
the I never knew I needed. He made me laugh

2593
02:53:12,867 --> 02:53:16,690
every episode with his blunt wit and impeccable timing. And

2594
02:53:16,730 --> 02:53:18,351
I don't think there will ever be a time where

2595
02:53:18,371 --> 02:53:24,855
I'm going to forget. Please play John's spooky DONATE jingle.

2596
02:53:25,195 --> 02:53:27,657
He would probably have a chuckle at that. Ezra from

2597
02:53:27,757 --> 02:53:46,149
Brisvegas, Australia. Beep. You've got... Donate! Donate! Donate! Karma. Coming

2598
02:53:46,249 --> 02:53:53,314
in next, Rose Richardson with 94.82. And no note, no

2599
02:53:53,694 --> 02:54:00,959
jingles, no karma. We need the practice anyway. Yeah. You've

2600
02:54:01,019 --> 02:54:10,105
got karma. Here's Dame Anne, 94-82. I just found out

2601
02:54:10,165 --> 02:54:13,208
about John's untimely demise. And they meant so much to

2602
02:54:13,268 --> 02:54:18,291
me during COVID when I found GetMonation and realized. World

2603
02:54:18,351 --> 02:54:21,813
gone mad. John's legacy is far-reaching and won't stop at

2604
02:54:21,853 --> 02:54:27,217
his mortal passing. Love to all. Dame M. Julie G.

2605
02:54:27,397 --> 02:54:33,401
coming in from Brighton, Ontario. 93.88. My condolences to Mimi

2606
02:54:33,461 --> 02:54:36,243
and the family and hugs to Adam. I am sad

2607
02:54:36,283 --> 02:54:39,905
to hear of John's passing. It's 138.20 Canadian dollars, which

2608
02:54:40,026 --> 02:54:44,949
is 88.88 plus $5 for fees. And of course, John

2609
02:54:45,029 --> 02:54:52,174
loved the eights. Yes he did. Wendy, no home. No

2610
02:54:52,254 --> 02:54:54,275
parts. Parts as known as Darren said. You made an

2611
02:54:54,335 --> 02:54:57,377
incredible impression on me week after week. The No Agenda

2612
02:54:57,377 --> 02:55:00,840
show. It left an imprint on my heart that will

2613
02:55:00,860 --> 02:55:05,162
never fade. Best podcast in the universe. Love and prayers,

2614
02:55:05,643 --> 02:55:15,009
Wendy Hilo Holland. Ryan, Caitlin, and Maggie. Bexelsville in Pennsylvania.

2615
02:55:15,089 --> 02:55:18,712
That sounds Dutch as well. 9364, which I'm guessing is

2616
02:55:18,772 --> 02:55:22,574
8888 with fees. We miss you, John. Praying for you

2617
02:55:22,774 --> 02:55:28,478
all. Love, Ryan. Aggie, no jingles, no karma. Well, thank

2618
02:55:28,538 --> 02:55:35,063
you. Leith Crooks. No address. I was shocked to hear

2619
02:55:35,103 --> 02:55:37,964
of John's passing. My condolences to the Dvoraks, Currys, and

2620
02:55:38,005 --> 02:55:41,327
all the producers. I'm about three weeks behind, so it

2621
02:55:41,347 --> 02:55:43,989
will be a bittersweet experience listening to his last remaining

2622
02:55:44,089 --> 02:55:47,531
shows. The donation box asked for a favorite memory of

2623
02:55:47,591 --> 02:55:50,313
John, and apart from his daily lessons in critical thinking,

2624
02:55:50,753 --> 02:55:53,295
what sprang to mind was when Adam would make an

2625
02:55:53,375 --> 02:55:57,918
exceptional quip that would crack John's scaly exterior. But there

2626
02:55:57,918 --> 02:56:02,701
was always a small delay before John's made an outrageous-sounding

2627
02:56:02,781 --> 02:56:05,523
laugh in the background. you It would always be so

2628
02:56:05,663 --> 02:56:08,585
unique in sound, and I'd find myself rewinding the show

2629
02:56:08,665 --> 02:56:11,747
to listen to it again. A testament to the you

2630
02:56:11,827 --> 02:56:15,410
two shared, bits that made John laugh would also make.

2631
02:56:16,550 --> 02:56:21,694
show, RIP Buzzkill Leith Crooks. Yeah, and I really believe

2632
02:56:21,714 --> 02:56:23,575
they just did the show to make each other laugh,

2633
02:56:23,655 --> 02:56:25,657
which is kind of what we do as well. I

2634
02:56:25,777 --> 02:56:31,440
like it. Yeah, it's good stuff. Charles Weitenheimer? Sounds right

2635
02:56:31,460 --> 02:56:38,765
to me. 93-64, no note, no car, so... You've got...

2636
02:56:41,707 --> 02:56:46,691
Thank you, Charles. Bill LeClair, very sad to hear about

2637
02:56:46,751 --> 02:56:50,313
John's past. Oh, 93, 64, no address. Very sad to

2638
02:56:50,333 --> 02:56:53,455
hear about John's passing. Condolences to his family and friends.

2639
02:56:53,956 --> 02:56:56,257
He was loved by many and will not be forgotten.

2640
02:56:56,757 --> 02:57:00,440
John responded to all four. over the years, one to

2641
02:57:00,500 --> 02:57:04,563
explain why he always said my name, capital L, small

2642
02:57:04,763 --> 02:57:07,885
a, capital C. He was a big fan of classic

2643
02:57:08,225 --> 02:57:11,788
WC Fields, so am I. Rest in peace, John. Bill

2644
02:57:11,828 --> 02:57:18,852
LeClair. Edward Yovno coming in with 93.64 and the sad

2645
02:57:18,912 --> 02:57:28,179
emoji. Which I feel you. Thank you. Yes. I worked

2646
02:57:28,219 --> 02:57:31,000
in a Chicago computer store back in the day. and

2647
02:57:31,020 --> 02:57:36,004
we all enjoyed John's PC. articles every month. the mouse

2648
02:57:36,044 --> 02:57:38,425
when it first came out either. I almost felt like

2649
02:57:38,465 --> 02:57:40,747
I was betraying John when I got my first serial

2650
02:57:40,847 --> 02:57:44,269
mouse so long ago. I have followed John's career through

2651
02:57:45,110 --> 02:57:49,133
and considered him friend, I will miss you. Elliot Lang.

2652
02:57:50,494 --> 02:57:53,335
Yeah. I mean, he didn't say the mouse was not

2653
02:57:53,375 --> 02:57:55,137
going to work. He just said there was no evidence,

2654
02:57:55,197 --> 02:57:58,779
which there wasn't. I'm backing him on that one. Okay.

2655
02:57:59,039 --> 02:58:02,862
Pat Deary came in with... and 64 cents says no

2656
02:58:03,002 --> 02:58:09,286
words. Well, thank you, Pat. It is appreciated. surplus or

2657
02:58:09,346 --> 02:58:16,651
surplus of the Sir. Plus of the. Read my dono

2658
02:58:16,811 --> 02:58:22,075
on show 979. One of my proudest moments is making

2659
02:58:22,135 --> 02:58:28,419
him say, me likey. Grateful for JCD teaching me whipsaws

2660
02:58:29,039 --> 02:58:31,401
and all the insider media tricks. Also his love, joy,

2661
02:58:31,521 --> 02:58:35,744
peace, patience, and of course, courage. Thank you, Sir Plus.

2662
02:58:35,824 --> 02:58:42,428
Then Ryan Young coming in with 9364 with no note

2663
02:58:42,549 --> 02:58:46,891
in there at all. Okay. Here's Darren O'Hara. Is he

2664
02:58:46,911 --> 02:58:52,535
a relative? Henderson, Nevada, 9364. I know this will likely

2665
02:58:52,915 --> 02:58:56,118
miss the 1889 cutoff, but things got busy, and I

2666
02:58:56,178 --> 02:58:59,140
still wanted to get this donation in. I had been

2667
02:58:59,200 --> 02:59:02,882
saving for another executive producer credit, but it felt important

2668
02:59:02,902 --> 02:59:06,144
to give something now to honor JCD and the greatest

2669
02:59:06,184 --> 02:59:09,627
podcast on earth. I remember listening to John on DH

2670
02:59:09,707 --> 02:59:14,070
Unplugged, though for whatever reason, my way to no agenda

2671
02:59:14,550 --> 02:59:19,353
until after I saw that TV guy on Rogan during

2672
02:59:19,413 --> 02:59:23,556
the pandemic. I'm glad I did. Thank you, JCD and

2673
02:59:23,796 --> 02:59:29,300
Adam, for helping me get through this time. media each

2674
02:59:29,420 --> 02:59:32,322
week and thank you to the dvorak family for sharing

2675
02:59:32,362 --> 02:59:36,925
jcd with no agenda nation john c devore your courage,

2676
02:59:37,005 --> 02:59:42,289
Godspeed. You will be missed. ITM, Darren. Garrett Morrison coming

2677
02:59:42,349 --> 02:59:46,151
in with 93.64. No note there, so thank you very

2678
02:59:46,291 --> 02:59:48,593
much. And then the next one is Sir Dwight the

2679
02:59:48,693 --> 02:59:55,478
Knight from Burlington, Ontario. 93.64 in the morning at... Always

2680
02:59:55,578 --> 02:59:59,280
John C. Dvorak. Sir Dwight the Knight here kneeling and...

2681
03:00:00,173 --> 03:00:02,594
And I couldn't believe the news when I heard it.

2682
03:00:02,654 --> 03:00:05,897
And I'm still having trouble. The show will never be

2683
03:00:05,977 --> 03:00:08,919
the same. And I will always listen. Well, thank you,

2684
03:00:08,999 --> 03:00:15,763
Sir Dwight. You are absolutely correct. Stephen Mullen, 93-64, whether

2685
03:00:15,823 --> 03:00:18,545
going for a walk, run, driving, doing errands, or falling

2686
03:00:18,605 --> 03:00:21,967
asleep, the No Agenda Show was my go-to podcast since

2687
03:00:21,967 --> 03:00:26,130
2020. As a pharmacist, you educated me. Since our institutions

2688
03:00:26,130 --> 03:00:29,873
refuse to do so, please de-douche me. Give me a

2689
03:00:29,953 --> 03:00:40,840
break. I had ants. You've been dedouched. Then Sir Alan

2690
03:00:41,160 --> 03:00:46,344
of Midlothian coming in from Virginia9364 says, it was a

2691
03:00:46,384 --> 03:00:49,906
great run for JCD. May he now rest in peace.

2692
03:00:50,166 --> 03:00:57,211
Sir Alan of Midlothian. Thank you. Michael Strychars. No address,

2693
03:00:57,391 --> 03:01:04,256
9364, and no message. then John Johnson from Goldsboro, North

2694
03:01:04,336 --> 03:01:11,701
Carolina. 93-64 says, been a douche way too long. And

2695
03:01:11,861 --> 03:01:14,763
long live John C. Dvorak. And we'll give you the

2696
03:01:14,783 --> 03:01:27,531
de-douching. You've been de-douched. Forbes Benning of London, Ontario. 93-64,

2697
03:01:27,571 --> 03:01:31,254
my sincerest condolences to the Dvorak and Curry families. What

2698
03:01:31,254 --> 03:01:33,355
a consolation it has been to hear all the heartfelt

2699
03:01:33,455 --> 03:01:36,818
love for John. He touched so many lives, J.C.D. was

2700
03:01:37,318 --> 03:01:39,660
with us for so long, that we thought he was

2701
03:01:39,700 --> 03:01:43,262
eternal. Well, now he is. Please accept this donation of

2702
03:01:43,262 --> 03:01:48,385
8888. Prayers were said for John, real prayers, to wish

2703
03:01:48,465 --> 03:01:51,227
him well on his journey to the great meetup beyond.

2704
03:01:51,848 --> 03:01:58,252
Godspeed, JCD. Sincerely, Forbes Benning. Surreal. Night of London. Steve

2705
03:01:58,392 --> 03:02:02,795
Carrico coming in parts unknown with 93 33 in the

2706
03:02:02,855 --> 03:02:06,658
morning. Like many, I came to lean on John's deconstruction

2707
03:02:06,818 --> 03:02:10,400
and yours to Adam over the years that unmatched calm

2708
03:02:10,620 --> 03:02:14,203
and realism put us all at ease. Thank you for

2709
03:02:14,323 --> 03:02:18,085
everything. I'm embarrassed to say, but I'm in need of

2710
03:02:18,145 --> 03:02:25,630
that dedouching. Thank you, Steve. And with pleasure. You've been

2711
03:02:25,791 --> 03:02:33,075
de-douched. Michael Gilmore of Danville, California says, now that you're

2712
03:02:33,115 --> 03:02:36,758
upstairs, $90 rather, now that you're upstairs. Actually, that's the

2713
03:02:36,778 --> 03:02:38,859
next one. Because there's two gray in a row. They're

2714
03:02:38,899 --> 03:02:41,441
fooling us. Oh, see, that's my color blindness. He said

2715
03:02:41,501 --> 03:02:46,324
nothing. Yeah, but thank you, Michael. And then Jackson Capizio

2716
03:02:46,605 --> 03:02:50,467
Gilmore came in with 90. and says, now that you're

2717
03:02:50,507 --> 03:02:53,709
upstairs, would you ask the owner where the missing newsletters

2718
03:02:53,869 --> 03:02:59,513
are and who decided the recipients would be? If he

2719
03:02:59,593 --> 03:03:02,755
does not know, have him assist you with the debugging.

2720
03:03:03,216 --> 03:03:09,260
You should finally have the ultimate sysadmin privileges. Love, Jackson

2721
03:03:09,480 --> 03:03:13,523
Capizio Gilmore. Like I said, 90 bucks, I think. But

2722
03:03:13,543 --> 03:03:17,805
that reminded me of the the ham silent key tribute

2723
03:03:17,866 --> 03:03:20,427
for John, which was very touching. I mean, this is

2724
03:03:20,507 --> 03:03:23,830
the computer guy thing where now you've got the full

2725
03:03:23,910 --> 03:03:28,353
system admin. Right. So. If somebody's messing with my computer,

2726
03:03:28,413 --> 03:03:33,576
I'll know who it is. Virginia Watts of Ketchikan, Alaska.

2727
03:03:33,656 --> 03:03:39,320
Lady Vox. Lady Vox. Hello, Lady Vox. $88.93. Because it's

2728
03:03:39,340 --> 03:03:48,166
a prime number with double digits. Yeah. Eric. There's, okay,

2729
03:03:48,226 --> 03:03:53,069
there's extra, there's weird characters. Yeah, there's, um, X-N-Y. Y-K-S

2730
03:03:53,229 --> 03:03:58,353
and weird zero Y. X-Noy, huh? Yeah, I'm going to

2731
03:03:58,393 --> 03:04:02,035
go with Ex-Noy. I don't know. 88, 88. See, you

2732
03:04:02,115 --> 03:04:04,617
thought John couldn't pronounce stuff. I really can't. And then

2733
03:04:04,677 --> 03:04:08,259
I can't see it, too. Twit donation, please. D-Douche, I

2734
03:04:08,379 --> 03:04:11,802
really miss you, John. Thank you for everything you did,

2735
03:04:11,922 --> 03:04:23,089
and thank you, Eric. You've been de-douched. Rocket of Brownsboro,

2736
03:04:23,329 --> 03:04:27,652
Alabama, 8888. I was shocked to hear of John's passing

2737
03:04:27,772 --> 03:04:29,494
and was also shocked to learn he was 80. He

2738
03:04:30,094 --> 03:04:32,836
seemed so young, but still one of my favorite OG

2739
03:04:33,136 --> 03:04:37,339
boomers. Love and prayers to the Dvoraks and Currys. Rocket.

2740
03:04:38,380 --> 03:04:46,345
Paul Weigarn-Schofar, I think, Weigarn-Schofar, 8888, and no, no, thank

2741
03:04:46,405 --> 03:04:52,389
you very much, Paul. Here's an interesting one because it's

2742
03:04:52,449 --> 03:04:56,992
from my hometown. John Dave of Elmhurst, New York, 8888.

2743
03:04:57,613 --> 03:05:01,995
No message. Thank you, John Dave. David Egan from Austin,

2744
03:05:02,196 --> 03:05:10,181
Tejas, 8888 says, rest in peace, JCD. Thank you. T-whore.

2745
03:05:10,181 --> 03:05:14,144
Thor. Thor with a space. Okay, now that's a Dvorakism

2746
03:05:14,244 --> 03:05:18,967
if ever. Yeah, T-whore, Thor. From North Sydney, Australia. Just

2747
03:05:19,167 --> 03:05:22,629
got back from vacation and in shock. You two have

2748
03:05:22,649 --> 03:05:25,451
been with me since 2008 and always felt like family.

2749
03:05:25,831 --> 03:05:29,894
Heartfelt condolences to the entire Dvorak family. I'm devastated. Thor

2750
03:05:30,274 --> 03:05:35,278
from Manly, Australia. Thank you, Thor. Dame Mary Paul Stewart

2751
03:05:35,338 --> 03:05:40,641
from Seattle, Washington. 8888 in memory. of John C. Dvorak

2752
03:05:40,701 --> 03:05:45,164
where the C stands for celestial God bless you John

2753
03:05:45,265 --> 03:05:49,968
Dame Mary Paul Stewart thank you Nathan Marshall, no address,

2754
03:05:49,968 --> 03:05:55,732
8888. We stand on the shoulders of giants. Very true.

2755
03:05:55,852 --> 03:06:01,455
Joseph King coming from Docula, Georgia. 8888. In the morning,

2756
03:06:01,656 --> 03:06:05,338
Adam and JCD family. It is with great sorrow I

2757
03:06:05,478 --> 03:06:07,900
send in this donation in the memory of John C.

2758
03:06:08,080 --> 03:06:11,542
Dvorak. I will keep this note brief so John doesn't

2759
03:06:11,602 --> 03:06:15,045
get too grouchy up above, but I hope to express

2760
03:06:15,085 --> 03:06:17,406
the immense impact that the No Agenda show has had

2761
03:06:17,606 --> 03:06:20,468
on my life. I have been a listener since Adam's

2762
03:06:20,548 --> 03:06:26,452
first JRE appearance, but never donated any treasure. Please dedouche

2763
03:06:26,532 --> 03:06:37,420
me. You've been dedouched. Media deconstruction, thoughtful commentary, and humor

2764
03:06:37,480 --> 03:06:39,961
of the show has been a steadfast companion to me

2765
03:06:40,081 --> 03:06:43,324
these past few years and has been such a positive

2766
03:06:43,404 --> 03:06:46,986
influence in my life. After meeting my now wife, Anna,

2767
03:06:47,146 --> 03:06:49,588
I soon hit her in the mouth and can attest

2768
03:06:49,668 --> 03:06:53,530
that it is true that those who know agenda together

2769
03:06:53,610 --> 03:06:57,733
stay together. Both of us are devastated at JCD's passing,

2770
03:06:57,793 --> 03:07:01,015
and we send love and prayers to his family and

2771
03:07:01,055 --> 03:07:06,039
the rest of No Agenda Nation. Find a cheap Bordeaux

2772
03:07:06,539 --> 03:07:10,922
in honor of John. Costco should be paying the Boraclan.

2773
03:07:13,804 --> 03:07:22,870
Joseph. Andre Harselhorst and Van Den Gorberg of Alphen. Netherlands.

2774
03:07:23,370 --> 03:07:29,575
Netherlands, okay. Thanks for everything. R.A.P. John C. Dvorak. 88.88

2775
03:07:29,675 --> 03:07:32,857
on that one and on this one from Luis Lancaster.

2776
03:07:34,398 --> 03:07:39,721
And it is 8888. Ah, lovely. JCD, where will we

2777
03:07:39,842 --> 03:07:46,266
be? Thank you, thank you, thank you, Louise. Sir Jerry

2778
03:07:46,546 --> 03:07:50,188
Carl, the Knight of All Things Greasy. Sir Jerry Carl.

2779
03:07:50,729 --> 03:07:52,430
Jerry Carl. There we go. How did I miss that?

2780
03:07:53,171 --> 03:07:57,533
All Things Greasy, Raleigh, North Carolina, 8888. John and Adam

2781
03:07:58,034 --> 03:08:00,235
have brought something incredible to this world. I can never

2782
03:08:00,275 --> 03:08:03,417
thank you enough for what John's columns, No Agenda, and

2783
03:08:03,437 --> 03:08:06,539
the No Agenda family have given me. God bless you,

2784
03:08:06,840 --> 03:08:09,782
Mimi, and God bless the Dvorak and Curry families. Rest

2785
03:08:09,862 --> 03:08:14,465
in peace, JCD. Sincerely, Ryan Smith, Sir Jerry Carl, the

2786
03:08:14,485 --> 03:08:17,347
Knight of All Things Greasy. Raleigh, North Carolina. And P.S.

2787
03:08:17,947 --> 03:08:21,269
Thanks for bringing the word specious back into my life.

2788
03:08:23,351 --> 03:08:28,094
And Jordan Frazier coming in with 88.88. Rest in peace,

2789
03:08:28,154 --> 03:08:32,077
JCD. The skills you guys have passed on have equipped

2790
03:08:32,217 --> 03:08:36,420
me for life, enabling me to recognize the bullcrap. a

2791
03:08:36,620 --> 03:08:43,104
truly immeasurable benefit. Well, thank you, Jordan. Dude named Mohammed.

2792
03:08:43,444 --> 03:08:49,829
No address. 8888. From dude named Mohammed. Then Scott Penton

2793
03:08:49,909 --> 03:08:56,613
coming in from... Tonawanda, New York, 8888. And then Eric

2794
03:08:56,713 --> 03:09:05,599
Mackey coming in from Blairsville, Georgia, also with 8888. Gay

2795
03:09:05,759 --> 03:09:13,004
Anonymous. From Newcastle-upon-Tyne in Great Britain. 8888. Dear Adam and

2796
03:09:13,044 --> 03:09:16,667
the Dvorak family, just listened to Adam's opening in 1888

2797
03:09:16,687 --> 03:09:20,349
and it provided a needed release. I was sobbing. Found

2798
03:09:20,409 --> 03:09:22,410
out when I read the newsletter, thought it may be

2799
03:09:22,491 --> 03:09:25,432
a joke. It's hard to describe what an impact this

2800
03:09:25,493 --> 03:09:27,954
has had on me. As an old gray beard named

2801
03:09:28,054 --> 03:09:30,876
Ben, I've followed John since his early days on Twit

2802
03:09:31,597 --> 03:09:34,218
and Cranky Geeks as he flung those cards. Pew pew,

2803
03:09:34,338 --> 03:09:37,881
jingle please. I will miss his curmudgeonly ways, his wit,

2804
03:09:38,141 --> 03:09:41,343
and sharp insight. And he just plain made me laugh.

2805
03:09:41,844 --> 03:09:46,447
I would like to be knighted, Sir Moor-Bot. call back

2806
03:09:46,507 --> 03:09:48,728
to the place I grew up and spent many happy

2807
03:09:48,808 --> 03:09:51,490
hours playing as a child. At the round table, I

2808
03:09:51,550 --> 03:09:55,152
would like a pint of Riggwelter and a giant Yorkshire

2809
03:09:55,253 --> 03:09:59,255
pudding filled with onion gravy, please. Just for random info,

2810
03:09:59,535 --> 03:10:03,178
Ickley Moore Bot refers to the unofficial anthem of the

2811
03:10:03,278 --> 03:10:07,481
county of Yorkshire in the UK, literally on Ickley Moore

2812
03:10:07,561 --> 03:10:10,943
without a hat in the local dialect. It's a sad

2813
03:10:11,023 --> 03:10:14,105
tale of a young lover courting the bleak Moore and

2814
03:10:14,165 --> 03:10:18,308
his potential death from exposure without the proper headgear. Lovely.

2815
03:10:19,029 --> 03:10:22,911
We sang this in primary school. A 737 sized hole

2816
03:10:23,031 --> 03:10:26,393
in your heart is truly... thoughts are with you all

2817
03:10:27,074 --> 03:10:31,497
soon to be sir sir more bot at anonymous and

2818
03:10:31,517 --> 03:10:42,204
i believe this is the jingle I think that's it.

2819
03:10:42,284 --> 03:10:45,746
I know there's others. That sounds like pew-pew. Yeah, I'm

2820
03:10:45,766 --> 03:10:50,550
spinning. I'm spinning in place. Welcome to the roundtable. Next

2821
03:10:50,650 --> 03:10:54,973
up, Sir Rob Barron of Greater Limburg coming in with

2822
03:10:54,973 --> 03:10:58,875
8888. Thanks, John, for all the great shows. No jingles,

2823
03:10:58,915 --> 03:11:03,318
no karma. Sir Rob Barron of Greater Limburg. Sir Glenn

2824
03:11:03,438 --> 03:11:07,761
of Raleigh, North Carolina, 8888. My condolences to Dvorak family

2825
03:11:07,841 --> 03:11:10,683
and Curry family. I will surely miss John, but hope

2826
03:11:10,743 --> 03:11:16,907
the show continues. Media deconstruction. Thanks, NJNK. Ryan Wolf coming

2827
03:11:16,967 --> 03:11:22,651
in from Covington, Virginia, 8888 says, Dear Adam, John's family,

2828
03:11:23,492 --> 03:11:26,294
the no agenda donation. I've been following John for over

2829
03:11:26,434 --> 03:11:29,676
three decades now. In the early 90s, in the back

2830
03:11:29,776 --> 03:11:31,938
of the computer magazines I used to sit and read

2831
03:11:32,018 --> 03:11:35,080
at Barnes and Noble, John C. Dvorak was there. During

2832
03:11:35,120 --> 03:11:38,682
the golden years of tech TV, before it went stupid,

2833
03:11:38,722 --> 03:11:42,184
oh, it did. John was there. On Leo's podcast in

2834
03:11:42,224 --> 03:11:45,827
the earliest days, when they still called them netcast, John

2835
03:11:45,907 --> 03:11:50,150
was there. The Cranky Geeks, No Agenda, and DH Unplugged,

2836
03:11:50,210 --> 03:11:55,653
John was there. the show for so for me John

2837
03:11:55,754 --> 03:11:59,256
is still there I think I'll hold those few episodes

2838
03:11:59,776 --> 03:12:02,698
for a rainy day knowing that John and Adam will

2839
03:12:02,778 --> 03:12:05,820
still be there One of my favorite Doctor Who lines

2840
03:12:05,900 --> 03:12:09,223
sticks in my head. The doctor says something like, every

2841
03:12:09,303 --> 03:12:12,925
time that you see people happy, you remember how sad

2842
03:12:12,965 --> 03:12:15,467
they're going to be later, and it breaks your heart.

2843
03:12:16,227 --> 03:12:18,629
What's the point of being happy now if they're just

2844
03:12:18,689 --> 03:12:21,591
going to be sad? And the answer, of course, is

2845
03:12:21,671 --> 03:12:26,374
because they're going to be sad later. This feels true

2846
03:12:26,494 --> 03:12:29,256
right now. We always got the happy. Now it is

2847
03:12:29,316 --> 03:12:32,158
time for the sadness. I never got to meet John

2848
03:12:32,238 --> 03:12:34,440
or any of you, never shook hands or shared a

2849
03:12:34,480 --> 03:12:38,182
meal. But after all those years of listening, John and

2850
03:12:38,262 --> 03:12:42,625
Adam allowed me to feel a little. part of their

2851
03:12:42,665 --> 03:12:45,907
family, like a little part of their family. John's story

2852
03:12:45,927 --> 03:12:48,709
is the way he talked about technology and the industry

2853
03:12:48,829 --> 03:12:51,911
and the bits about everyday life. Let me share in

2854
03:12:52,011 --> 03:12:55,814
some of the happiness and camaraderie. It's a real gift

2855
03:12:55,994 --> 03:12:59,536
and one that death doesn't get to take away. Through

2856
03:12:59,676 --> 03:13:02,719
all the crazy years, the endless news cycles, the pandemics,

2857
03:13:02,779 --> 03:13:06,661
the AI panic, the climate alarms, the constant sense of

2858
03:13:06,841 --> 03:13:11,184
imminent doom, John and Adam were a steady hand on

2859
03:13:11,404 --> 03:13:15,627
the tiller. especially during the 2020 COVID times when the

2860
03:13:15,727 --> 03:13:19,590
media was pouring out panic and fear and doubt. The

2861
03:13:19,690 --> 03:13:23,532
two of you were a stabilizing voice of reason. That

2862
03:13:23,653 --> 03:13:27,015
meant a great deal to me. And I imagine it

2863
03:13:27,135 --> 03:13:30,017
did for a lot of other people too. I can

2864
03:13:30,977 --> 03:13:33,879
ditto that. And that's Brian Wolf. Thank you very much.

2865
03:13:36,581 --> 03:13:42,065
Okay, Jeffrey Sarkissian from Dollar Day or Mule in Canada.

2866
03:13:42,065 --> 03:13:49,350
8888, my deepest sympathies. Scott Simon jingle, please. Don't ask

2867
03:13:49,370 --> 03:13:54,673
me to speak the... Scott Simon. Don't ask me to

2868
03:13:54,733 --> 03:14:00,818
speak French. That's not going to happen. Suffering succotash. I'm

2869
03:14:00,878 --> 03:14:13,266
Scott... Simon. Gary Casper, Tulsa, Oklahoma, 8888 with no note

2870
03:14:13,306 --> 03:14:20,631
then. Bob. Rathmel from Santa Isabel. Is that the California?

2871
03:14:20,731 --> 03:14:26,495
Yes. 88, 88 as well. Thank you very much. Spencer

2872
03:14:27,415 --> 03:14:32,219
from San Francisco, 80.08. I too have never before cried

2873
03:14:32,259 --> 03:14:35,081
like this about someone I never met. Six hours a

2874
03:14:35,181 --> 03:14:38,023
week. What a gift your show and John has been

2875
03:14:38,083 --> 03:14:41,005
for me. The clip show today was very healing. God

2876
03:14:41,045 --> 03:14:45,367
bless from Spencer and SF. And then there he is,

2877
03:14:45,488 --> 03:14:51,352
Kevin McLaughlin from Concord, North Carolina, with 8008. That's right,

2878
03:14:51,352 --> 03:14:59,277
1890 B-O-O-B, Donation Archduke of Luna, Lover of America, and

2879
03:14:59,657 --> 03:14:59,977
boob.

2880
03:15:01,911 --> 03:15:08,575
John Albertini, Albarini, $70.26. No place, no message. Chris Dumanor

2881
03:15:08,755 --> 03:15:15,680
from Brooksville, MD. Mary, yes. I need to go back

2882
03:15:15,780 --> 03:15:19,522
to geography school, I guess. He says, thank you for

2883
03:15:19,642 --> 03:15:24,466
substituting. I am a mother pheasant fucker. I pluck mother

2884
03:15:24,706 --> 03:15:28,809
pheasants. I am the most pleasant mother pheasant plucker to

2885
03:15:29,009 --> 03:15:31,450
ever pluck a mother. See, I guess he wants to

2886
03:15:31,550 --> 03:15:35,773
attest the new guy. and do tongue twisters and... You

2887
03:15:36,354 --> 03:15:43,018
did it well. Les Tarkowski of Kingman, Arizona. I know

2888
03:15:43,058 --> 03:15:49,282
that town. It's pretty cool. $60.06. No message. That's that

2889
03:15:49,342 --> 03:15:51,744
old Route 66, isn't it? Oh, it's a great town.

2890
03:15:51,964 --> 03:15:57,508
It really is cool. at Disney 6006, maybe. Christopher Lee

2891
03:15:57,648 --> 03:16:03,712
coming in with 5940. and family of JCD. Thank you

2892
03:16:03,772 --> 03:16:07,094
for your dedication to the show. stories and thoughts on

2893
03:16:07,234 --> 03:16:10,316
what's happening each week but hope the show continues on

2894
03:16:10,517 --> 03:16:15,840
in your memory sorry it's only 88 88 aussie dollar

2895
03:16:16,240 --> 03:16:19,242
bucks oh don't be sad about that it's a beautiful

2896
03:16:19,303 --> 03:16:24,886
thing thank you and supporting the best damn podcast in

2897
03:16:24,926 --> 03:16:30,470
the universe. Surprise Night of Astonishment from the Yukon, Oklahoma,

2898
03:16:30,650 --> 03:16:37,535
U.S., 5444. No message. Nathan Gwynn of Jackson, Tennessee, 5272.

2899
03:16:37,615 --> 03:16:42,178
No message. Foster Birch of New York, New York, 5272.

2900
03:16:42,258 --> 03:16:47,702
No message. Then Philip Koster coming in from Rosendahl, Netherlands,

2901
03:16:47,762 --> 03:16:52,205
5272. Sorry to hear of John's passing while on holiday

2902
03:16:52,365 --> 03:16:56,908
in China. I really enjoyed his contribution. You can help.

2903
03:16:58,149 --> 03:17:02,772
with this loss. Well, thank you, Philip. Abraham Roots, Sunnyville,

2904
03:17:02,832 --> 03:17:08,996
California, $50.88. No message. And then we have the 50s

2905
03:17:09,056 --> 03:17:14,440
here. We have Aaron Weisgerber from Bend, Oregon with 50.

2906
03:17:16,081 --> 03:17:21,144
Wow, do you want to take that one? Katrian Van

2907
03:17:21,324 --> 03:17:24,026
Tugel, I think so. go with that maybe it's fake

2908
03:17:24,967 --> 03:17:33,132
my my pronunciation that is rotterdam for $50. Steven Streeter,

2909
03:17:33,232 --> 03:17:39,817
South Jordan, Utah, $50. Mike Toll, Memphis, Tennessee, $50. My

2910
03:17:39,977 --> 03:17:44,560
thoughts are with you, Adam. Rest in peace, John. Paul

2911
03:17:44,880 --> 03:17:53,946
Nilsen-eeson, uh, Nidgeson. $50. Yeah. Terrence Clark, Jacksonville Beach, Florida.

2912
03:17:54,166 --> 03:18:02,912
$50. Joshua Johnson, Omaha, Nebraska. $50. Nathan Noel from Netherland,

2913
03:18:03,092 --> 03:18:09,356
Texas. Nederland, Texas. $50. Sounds good. Tony Lang, Castle Pines,

2914
03:18:09,437 --> 03:18:15,941
Colorado. $50. Oh, New Brunswick, New Jersey. $50 and birthday

2915
03:18:16,061 --> 03:18:24,607
July 25. And Sir Michael from Shnomish, Washington. That's out

2916
03:18:24,667 --> 03:18:28,649
by Memrose, I think. Yeah. Coming in with $50 in

2917
03:18:28,709 --> 03:18:33,993
that. another very touching list. I mean, I love hearing.

2918
03:18:35,534 --> 03:18:41,278
is remembering about JCD and all of the good things

2919
03:18:41,318 --> 03:18:45,661
that they har-- you But man, you want to talk

2920
03:18:45,741 --> 03:18:51,765
about leadership? There is no doubt leaving a huge legacy

2921
03:18:52,245 --> 03:18:57,289
behind. Yeah. So now we do the, I guess, birthday.

2922
03:18:58,309 --> 03:19:05,314
We got meetups. We got nightings. Nightings. And for the

2923
03:19:05,514 --> 03:19:12,959
nightings, we have a layaway night here. So there was

2924
03:19:13,019 --> 03:19:16,702
no name in here. I've been at 3333 since 2020.

2925
03:19:16,802 --> 03:19:22,366
I got my dameship. I think... One month in, my

2926
03:19:22,466 --> 03:19:27,989
husband should be a knight. Can Bruce be Sir Brewikey

2927
03:19:28,590 --> 03:19:32,853
of Indy and have Chicago style and a spicy red

2928
03:19:32,893 --> 03:19:39,177
hot sausage at the round table if still applicable? a

2929
03:19:39,457 --> 03:19:42,779
make good nighting on episode 1888. I achieved knighthood with

2930
03:19:42,799 --> 03:19:45,881
a 333 donation. I request a jingle that didn't get

2931
03:19:45,941 --> 03:19:53,526
played. I wanted to. Yeah, no, I hear John and

2932
03:19:53,546 --> 03:19:57,129
the jingle in my head sometimes. I or anyone around

2933
03:19:57,189 --> 03:20:01,592
me says, yeah, no. Is there, yeah, no jingle? Hmm,

2934
03:20:02,332 --> 03:20:15,181
let's see here. There's a Leo. Yeah, no. Yikes! No,

2935
03:20:15,321 --> 03:20:20,705
that's not... No, that's not... I apologize. I don't have

2936
03:20:20,705 --> 03:20:26,509
the vast knowledge of these clips here. I also want

2937
03:20:26,609 --> 03:20:30,952
to note a change in my knighthood. I requested to

2938
03:20:30,992 --> 03:20:36,515
be called Sir... Night of the Loess Hills, but that

2939
03:20:36,595 --> 03:20:39,758
was hasty and I'm not technically in the Loess Hills

2940
03:20:40,198 --> 03:20:41,859
and I had to get my note in quick so

2941
03:20:41,939 --> 03:20:43,720
if a change is possible I'd like to be known

2942
03:20:43,840 --> 03:20:50,145
as Sir Loudneighbor Night of Winter G- be greatly appreciated.

2943
03:20:50,165 --> 03:20:59,551
He's from Omaha, Nebraska. for Chris Fulford and he wants

2944
03:20:59,651 --> 03:21:05,255
a mud flat report jingle and I don't yeah I'm

2945
03:21:05,335 --> 03:21:12,480
not sure there's nothing with flat or mud oh there's

2946
03:21:12,660 --> 03:21:20,005
a report hmm there's a I mean, there's a weekly

2947
03:21:20,105 --> 03:21:22,306
hooker report, but I don't have a... Put that in

2948
03:21:22,426 --> 03:21:26,089
instead. That'll work. Is that just as good? I don't

2949
03:21:26,129 --> 03:21:40,418
know. It's the week. Oh, my. I love it. That

2950
03:21:40,518 --> 03:21:42,700
had to do something with JCD, and it had to

2951
03:21:42,740 --> 03:21:45,342
be. I don't even remember that one. How far back

2952
03:21:45,422 --> 03:21:48,464
does that go? I like that. It's good. First off,

2953
03:21:48,484 --> 03:21:50,785
I would like to give my deepest condolences to the

2954
03:21:50,845 --> 03:21:54,168
entire Dvorak family, knowing how much John meant to so

2955
03:21:54,388 --> 03:21:57,049
many that didn't share his name. I can imagine what

2956
03:21:57,110 --> 03:22:00,572
kind of solar system-sized hole that has been left at

2957
03:22:00,592 --> 03:22:03,034
the family table. I will keep every member of the

2958
03:22:03,074 --> 03:22:06,876
No Agenda family in my prayers. as y'all sort out

2959
03:22:07,136 --> 03:22:15,962
the after onward. Mary J. more in the hundreds. I

2960
03:22:16,022 --> 03:22:20,085
had just recently lost my father to unexpected health concerns.

2961
03:22:20,105 --> 03:22:23,507
We're sorry to hear that. The show quickly filled a

2962
03:22:23,607 --> 03:22:26,209
hole that I didn't know was there. Two men who

2963
03:22:26,289 --> 03:22:29,371
knew stuff and were happy to tell me all about

2964
03:22:29,431 --> 03:22:32,814
it. I was hooked immediately. I started out not caring

2965
03:22:32,854 --> 03:22:36,656
too much. because he was such a buzzkill. I was

2966
03:22:36,896 --> 03:22:40,239
all in with all the crackpot stuff Adam brought for

2967
03:22:40,299 --> 03:22:43,060
the second half of show, and I couldn't stand it

2968
03:22:43,100 --> 03:22:48,224
when John... deep dive. As I aged from a young

2969
03:22:48,304 --> 03:22:51,746
man to a proper adult, in quotes, listening to the

2970
03:22:51,786 --> 03:22:53,928
show, I began to see the wisdom in a lot

2971
03:22:53,988 --> 03:22:56,850
of what John had to say and began to actually

2972
03:22:56,890 --> 03:23:00,632
look forward to what his thoughts would be on many

2973
03:23:00,752 --> 03:23:05,035
subjects, no matter that I'm not, no doubt I'm not

2974
03:23:05,095 --> 03:23:08,417
the only one. Over the many years of having John

2975
03:23:08,497 --> 03:23:11,139
and Adam at my side, as I'm driving around town,

2976
03:23:11,259 --> 03:23:14,682
fixing houses and ACs, I have probably picked up more

2977
03:23:14,762 --> 03:23:18,544
worthwhile, life wisdom than I have ever gotten from the

2978
03:23:18,624 --> 03:23:20,506
people who should have gave it to me when I

2979
03:23:20,586 --> 03:23:24,608
was younger. I was always for some reason that never

2980
03:23:24,748 --> 03:23:28,571
clicked in my head as value. Yes, I am a

2981
03:23:28,851 --> 03:23:31,533
douchebag. Oh, we got to do a... Uh-oh. That's a...

2982
03:23:31,553 --> 03:23:40,319
Yeah, we got to de-douche. He douched. I always measured

2983
03:23:40,379 --> 03:23:43,701
my value. some of the metrics that Adam likes to

2984
03:23:43,761 --> 03:23:47,764
mention. I'm mildly introverted, so I rarely use any info.

2985
03:23:48,584 --> 03:23:53,408
the show in general conversation. savvy enough to profit from

2986
03:23:53,428 --> 03:23:58,471
the information. ever came to feeling compelled to donate was

2987
03:23:58,591 --> 03:24:01,793
when the Ant song made its debut. That's such a

2988
03:24:01,873 --> 03:24:07,597
great song. this for granted and I'm mess that it

2989
03:24:07,657 --> 03:24:11,360
took the passing of one of my all-time favorites. to

2990
03:24:11,620 --> 03:24:14,722
really understand that. I'm also one of the maybe not

2991
03:24:14,782 --> 03:24:18,164
so few people that actually got the newsletter but never

2992
03:24:18,284 --> 03:24:22,127
opens it, so I was blindsided by that truck that

2993
03:24:22,227 --> 03:24:26,130
John loves so much when I opened my podcasting 2.0

2994
03:24:26,250 --> 03:24:31,093
compliant app and saw the cover art. I'm man enough

2995
03:24:31,133 --> 03:24:33,334
to admit that I cried for at least two hours

2996
03:24:33,895 --> 03:24:36,837
in my work van on Friday. I feel you, brother.

2997
03:24:37,577 --> 03:24:40,579
When John made it home from the hospital, I realized

2998
03:24:40,619 --> 03:24:42,701
how important you guys are to my life, and I

2999
03:24:42,821 --> 03:24:46,804
promised myself that I would get on. As soon as

3000
03:24:46,884 --> 03:24:49,786
I got my finances in order. Well, John, being the

3001
03:24:49,866 --> 03:24:52,127
master that he is, got me to pull out of

3002
03:24:52,227 --> 03:24:56,770
my savings account to make this palindrome instantite donation of

3003
03:24:57,411 --> 03:25:04,596
$108,001 plus fees in his honor. I still plan to

3004
03:25:04,636 --> 03:25:06,697
get on that recurring program at some point, but for

3005
03:25:06,757 --> 03:25:10,099
the time being, please, oh, don't de-douche me. Wait, wait.

3006
03:25:10,840 --> 03:25:13,441
And if you've already de-douche me, then I preemptively call

3007
03:25:13,522 --> 03:25:17,824
myself out as a douchebag. I love the No Agenda

3008
03:25:17,904 --> 03:25:22,287
producers. I really do. Really? We have to knight you

3009
03:25:22,407 --> 03:25:28,832
today and... Douchebag. twice i'll probably return to my douchebaggery

3010
03:25:28,912 --> 03:25:33,035
for a while seeing as residential hvac mechanics don't make

3011
03:25:33,135 --> 03:25:44,903
as much brother. Yeah. The Lord provides all. So I

3012
03:25:45,003 --> 03:25:48,785
am perfectly happy with everything already at the round table.

3013
03:25:48,985 --> 03:25:51,767
Thank you. For my night name, I would like the

3014
03:25:51,867 --> 03:25:56,530
moniker to be Sir Christopher the Dog-Headed. For jingles, I

3015
03:25:56,630 --> 03:26:00,873
have either or request. Mimi, if you are still in

3016
03:26:01,154 --> 03:26:05,536
John's studio. one last mudflats report for the old time's

3017
03:26:05,576 --> 03:26:08,779
sake. If you already have the studio sealed as a

3018
03:26:08,839 --> 03:26:11,260
time capsule to open in 30 years. You know, I

3019
03:26:11,320 --> 03:26:14,623
could actually see John requesting that. Oh, yeah. Then I

3020
03:26:14,683 --> 03:26:19,786
would like... also known as a moment of silence for

3021
03:26:19,866 --> 03:26:26,551
the legend that will always be John C. Dvorak. Thank

3022
03:26:26,631 --> 03:26:31,074
you for all. Thank you all for everything you do

3023
03:26:31,574 --> 03:26:39,159
for Gitmo Nation. Love is lit. And we have the

3024
03:26:39,199 --> 03:26:42,301
nightings to do. So, I mean, did you get a

3025
03:26:42,361 --> 03:26:48,305
sword for the nightings? I did not. Oh, well here.

3026
03:26:48,405 --> 03:26:49,886
Oh, thank you. I'll try. I'll take that one. Yeah.

3027
03:26:49,886 --> 03:26:54,750
Give me that one. Oh, that's nice. And we've got

3028
03:26:54,830 --> 03:26:58,512
a whole list here. We've got. Jay Hall becoming Dame

3029
03:26:58,732 --> 03:27:04,016
Uliani. Mira Keck becoming Dame of Thai Chicks. Matthew Hosko

3030
03:27:04,196 --> 03:27:08,859
becoming Sir Matt of the Flight Levels. Alex Mandel becoming

3031
03:27:09,119 --> 03:27:13,342
Sir Alex of the Floyd River Valley. Charles Neal, Sir

3032
03:27:13,482 --> 03:27:17,945
Gopher Gold. Andrew Grasso becoming Sir Grasso, Reluctant Knight of

3033
03:27:18,045 --> 03:27:23,809
Mineola. Anonymous becoming Sir Moor Bat Ot. Colin McKeown becoming

3034
03:27:23,869 --> 03:27:27,772
Sir Moor Bat Ot. Sir Loudneighbor Knight of the Winter

3035
03:27:27,892 --> 03:27:33,956
Quarters, Bruce becoming Sir Brewakie of Indy and Chris Fulford

3036
03:27:33,996 --> 03:27:39,760
becoming Sir Christopher of the Dogheaded. And what we need

3037
03:27:39,820 --> 03:27:45,724
you to do then is... Come on up. Everybody on

3038
03:27:45,784 --> 03:27:48,826
the stage. Is this stage even big enough? I think

3039
03:27:48,906 --> 03:27:54,209
so. We want to pronunciate you as knights and dames

3040
03:27:54,710 --> 03:27:58,432
of the No Agenda show. I mean, I don't know

3041
03:27:58,512 --> 03:28:02,415
if I have the proper coverage to do that, but

3042
03:28:02,475 --> 03:28:08,779
I guess. Until further known how. Thank you for your

3043
03:28:08,839 --> 03:28:11,421
support of the No Agenda show in the amount of

3044
03:28:11,461 --> 03:28:15,244
a thousand dollars or more and we are very proud

3045
03:28:15,324 --> 03:28:17,965
to pronounce it took me a long time to realize

3046
03:28:18,025 --> 03:28:23,489
he was saying pronouncicate rather than pronounce the yes and

3047
03:28:23,549 --> 03:28:26,051
we've gotten all the uh for the usual you've got

3048
03:28:26,091 --> 03:28:29,513
hookers and blow rent boys and chardonnay and then mutton

3049
03:28:29,573 --> 03:28:33,156
and meat ginger ale and gerbils bong hits and bourbon

3050
03:28:33,356 --> 03:28:40,260
and all the other head over to noagendarings.com. That's where

3051
03:28:40,280 --> 03:28:42,582
you can find all the information on getting your very

3052
03:28:43,062 --> 03:28:47,005
handsome no agenda night dame signet rings. Send them the

3053
03:28:47,025 --> 03:28:48,866
ring size and address. They get it out to you

3054
03:28:48,946 --> 03:28:54,230
along with some sealing wax and a certificate of authenticity.

3055
03:28:55,110 --> 03:28:58,633
And thanks to everybody for supporting the best damn podcast

3056
03:28:58,773 --> 03:29:08,559
in the universe and becoming a. You being the uh

3057
03:29:09,320 --> 03:29:12,202
the one villain guys yeah the villain guys to to

3058
03:29:12,262 --> 03:29:19,127
do that for you and then Couple of birds. We

3059
03:29:19,307 --> 03:29:26,331
have George O. On July 25th. And Arno would like

3060
03:29:26,431 --> 03:29:31,135
to wish Sebastian a very happy birthday. He's turning 35

3061
03:29:31,155 --> 03:29:36,778
on July 30th. And we hope y'all have a darn

3062
03:29:36,858 --> 03:29:55,611
good time. And yeah, then there's me. Yeah, connection is

3063
03:29:55,931 --> 03:29:59,914
absolutely protection when it comes to the no agenda meetups.

3064
03:30:00,266 --> 03:30:03,208
And there is a long list of them coming up

3065
03:30:03,288 --> 03:30:07,411
before we get to the Spicewood meetup report. We have

3066
03:30:07,791 --> 03:30:12,554
Thursday, July 30th. Well, that's today. The North Idaho Sanity

3067
03:30:12,654 --> 03:30:17,598
Brigade summer meetup at 5 p.m. Pacific at Trains End

3068
03:30:17,818 --> 03:30:22,741
Brewery and the Brick Oven Pizza in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho.

3069
03:30:22,921 --> 03:30:28,225
And the organizer, Sir Scott the Jew. July 30th. Oh,

3070
03:30:28,225 --> 03:30:29,686
I'm sorry. Perfect. Yeah, if you can do that, I'll

3071
03:30:29,726 --> 03:30:33,488
grab the other audio file here. Sure. July 30th, today,

3072
03:30:33,709 --> 03:30:38,832
North Georgia RIPJCD meetup at 6 o'clock Eastern, Cherry Street

3073
03:30:38,932 --> 03:30:47,078
Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia. Organizer, Sir Bob. 30 July, urgent

3074
03:30:47,238 --> 03:30:51,080
pour out one for JCD meetup, 6 p.m. Eastern, Saints

3075
03:30:51,180 --> 03:30:56,724
and Scholars, Raleigh, North Carolina, organizer J.D. Jeffers. Want me

3076
03:30:56,724 --> 03:30:58,305
to keep going with these, Darren? Yes, if you could.

3077
03:30:58,505 --> 03:31:03,148
Okay. On Friday, July 31, Abe's Bay Area Exit Strategy

3078
03:31:03,208 --> 03:31:07,611
Meetup at 5.33 p.m. Pacific, the Duke of Edinburgh Pub

3079
03:31:08,112 --> 03:31:13,756
in Cupertino, California. The organizer is Abe. On also Friday,

3080
03:31:13,776 --> 03:31:17,678
the 31st, J.C.'s celebration of life at 6 p.m. Central

3081
03:31:17,938 --> 03:31:22,041
at the Barley Oak in Mandeville, Louisiana. Organizer is Dame

3082
03:31:22,181 --> 03:31:26,084
Rachel. Also on Friday, the Calgary meetup at 7 p.m.

3083
03:31:26,184 --> 03:31:32,608
Mountain. That's the Lenox Irish Pub, Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Organizer

3084
03:31:32,688 --> 03:31:37,712
is Melvin Gibstein. Saturday, August 1. Remember and celebrate JCD

3085
03:31:38,012 --> 03:31:41,254
at 2 p.m. Eastern at the March 1st Brewing Company

3086
03:31:41,594 --> 03:31:47,658
in Cincinnati, Ohio. Organizer is Baron Foxhat. Sunday, next show,

3087
03:31:48,459 --> 03:31:54,563
August 2. JCD and Memoriam at 3.33 p.m. p.m. north

3088
03:31:54,623 --> 03:31:58,966
of Toronto time. All-star wings and ribs in Vaughan, Ontario,

3089
03:31:59,066 --> 03:32:03,829
Canada. Organizer is Bishop. Yeah, then there's a long other

3090
03:32:03,909 --> 03:32:06,811
list of things coming up from all over the world,

3091
03:32:06,911 --> 03:32:12,995
from Ketchikan, Alaska, to Oklahoma, to Australia, to Texas, to

3092
03:32:13,055 --> 03:32:18,339
Florida, to Thailand, and even the UK, all over the

3093
03:32:18,399 --> 03:32:22,702
place. Just go to noagendameetups.com for that information. And we

3094
03:32:22,822 --> 03:32:27,265
do, have a meetup report, the JCD meetup from Spicewood,

3095
03:32:27,345 --> 03:32:34,029
Texas on July 25th. This is Logan from Spicewood. It's

3096
03:32:34,090 --> 03:32:36,611
my first meetup and I'm happy to be here, but

3097
03:32:37,132 --> 03:32:40,454
sad to see John go. He brought so much insight

3098
03:32:41,074 --> 03:32:44,517
and knowledge and entertainment the past few years that I've

3099
03:32:44,537 --> 03:32:48,539
been listening and I will continue listening as much as

3100
03:32:48,619 --> 03:32:50,861
I can. I brought my three human resources here that

3101
03:32:50,901 --> 03:32:57,065
you'll hear on this and our admission here costs $33.30

3102
03:32:57,145 --> 03:33:01,208
today. It all comes together. Chickens are going to be

3103
03:33:01,288 --> 03:33:04,110
the best thing in the world. Don't eat me, Bo-Dyden.

3104
03:33:04,290 --> 03:33:09,053
You're scary. So scary. Love and lit from the Turner

3105
03:33:09,153 --> 03:33:13,456
family of New Braunfels, Texas. We are so excited to

3106
03:33:13,496 --> 03:33:16,338
have been here today to enjoy this lovely day meeting

3107
03:33:16,398 --> 03:33:19,840
some super cool people in no agenda royalty like Sir

3108
03:33:19,900 --> 03:33:23,683
Ducifer and Brian with an eye who has merch and

3109
03:33:26,225 --> 03:33:29,367
and Scott and it's been wonderful with all of our

3110
03:33:29,407 --> 03:33:32,289
families and friends in this beautiful day and you created

3111
03:33:32,309 --> 03:33:35,411
this John and it's beautiful and we love you for

3112
03:33:35,471 --> 03:33:37,932
it we're gonna miss you and this is devastating here's

3113
03:33:37,972 --> 03:33:40,794
our son Holden I just want to pray that the

3114
03:33:40,854 --> 03:33:43,396
Lord be with your family and that he blesses you

3115
03:33:43,516 --> 03:33:46,458
abundantly and infinitely. Hey, John, I was reading your columns

3116
03:33:46,558 --> 03:33:49,440
when I was in middle school in the mid-80s. I

3117
03:33:49,480 --> 03:33:52,842
still agree that OS2 was better than Windows. I've watched

3118
03:33:52,862 --> 03:33:55,184
you on CNET and Tech TV, and I've listened to

3119
03:33:55,204 --> 03:33:58,086
you on No Agenda for the last 15-plus years. You

3120
03:33:58,126 --> 03:34:00,368
will be missed. I don't know how I'm ever going

3121
03:34:00,388 --> 03:34:02,289
to know what Costco wine to buy for my wife.

3122
03:34:02,749 --> 03:34:05,671
John, we love you and miss you, and I hope

3123
03:34:05,711 --> 03:34:07,552
they give you a hoodie up in heaven. This is

3124
03:34:07,612 --> 03:34:13,516
Viscount Scott of the Armory. And Keeper Christine. Saying farewell

3125
03:34:13,556 --> 03:34:17,199
to our great friend John. On our 10th wedding anniversary,

3126
03:34:17,999 --> 03:34:22,923
we took the jaunt to California and berated John. And

3127
03:34:22,943 --> 03:34:28,867
I actually had JCD Jr. to get him to go

3128
03:34:28,927 --> 03:34:30,268
out to lunch with us. So we got to spend

3129
03:34:30,328 --> 03:34:33,049
an entire day with lunch. And surprisingly, one of his

3130
03:34:33,110 --> 03:34:37,332
favorite topics at lunch was his Android phone. Things changed.

3131
03:34:37,332 --> 03:34:41,655
We even got to see... The Lexus. Life's not going

3132
03:34:41,655 --> 03:34:45,538
to be the same. Life will go on. My prayers

3133
03:34:45,598 --> 03:34:50,301
are out to the family, John, Adam, and everybody. We're

3134
03:34:50,301 --> 03:34:52,663
going to miss you, John. Hey, this is Sir Brian

3135
03:34:52,723 --> 03:34:55,545
with an I. We miss you, John. We're out here

3136
03:34:55,565 --> 03:35:00,608
celebrating your life, doing some swimming and grilling. I was

3137
03:35:00,668 --> 03:35:03,930
at the store this morning getting food for everybody, and

3138
03:35:03,990 --> 03:35:05,892
I wanted to see if I could find something with

3139
03:35:05,892 --> 03:35:08,493
a 33 on it, like a cool bottle of hot

3140
03:35:08,573 --> 03:35:11,495
sauce. something but the only thing I found was a

3141
03:35:11,535 --> 03:35:14,597
33 pack of maxi pads and I figured he already

3142
03:35:14,778 --> 03:35:22,323
had enough to eat. Hey John, Adam definitely I don't

3143
03:35:22,323 --> 03:35:24,164
know if this is more for John or Adam at

3144
03:35:24,244 --> 03:35:33,950
this point because... We have a wealth. of stories and

3145
03:35:35,011 --> 03:35:41,355
advice. and information from John going back 18 years and

3146
03:35:41,415 --> 03:35:44,457
that's what we should be celebrating. We love you guys

3147
03:35:44,598 --> 03:35:47,660
and we're glad and this is way too long. So

3148
03:35:47,720 --> 03:35:50,922
Brian was looking at me like, yeah. This is not

3149
03:35:50,962 --> 03:36:00,148
making the cut. Would you agree? That's probably where I'm

3150
03:36:00,148 --> 03:36:34,691
going to end. In the morning! Connection is protection. And

3151
03:36:34,771 --> 03:36:38,274
this is the reason why. we are filling in and

3152
03:36:38,334 --> 03:36:41,556
having a train wreck because you just couldn't have silence

3153
03:36:42,196 --> 03:36:45,218
for a few weeks. So we appreciate everybody kind of

3154
03:36:45,258 --> 03:36:47,780
following along with us. When we were talking to Adam,

3155
03:36:47,840 --> 03:36:50,222
Larry's like, yeah, you know, it could be a train

3156
03:36:50,262 --> 03:36:51,983
wreck. And he's like, I expect it to be. That's

3157
03:36:52,063 --> 03:36:55,265
the fun part of it. And part of what they

3158
03:36:55,345 --> 03:36:57,967
do is doing an ISO for the end of the

3159
03:36:58,067 --> 03:37:02,410
show. And so I have a few here that I

3160
03:37:02,490 --> 03:37:07,353
thought might work. And one is this one. playing your

3161
03:37:07,393 --> 03:37:11,796
harpsichord, citizen, everything is well. Which, after this show, they

3162
03:37:11,876 --> 03:37:15,238
might need that. The only harpsichordist I ever knew was

3163
03:37:15,298 --> 03:37:18,501
Lurch from The Addams Family. That was a great show.

3164
03:37:18,561 --> 03:37:23,084
Yes, it was. Or I'm thinking... Even though it's long

3165
03:37:23,284 --> 03:37:25,886
and it wouldn't be something that Adam would do. It's

3166
03:37:25,926 --> 03:37:28,968
too long. I think this might be the twofer to

3167
03:37:29,028 --> 03:37:37,894
end today's show. You're so fucking fired. That's not AI,

3168
03:37:37,914 --> 03:37:41,936
that's real, but I think that may be what we

3169
03:37:42,817 --> 03:37:48,641
need to do. But we thank everybody for hanging out

3170
03:37:48,701 --> 03:37:52,423
with us. It's been... a a whole lot of fun

3171
03:37:52,463 --> 03:37:54,585
and we'd have uh let me i'm if i can

3172
03:37:54,705 --> 03:37:58,067
find i've loaded everything up adam makes it look easy

3173
03:37:58,187 --> 03:38:00,989
i swear the guy looks he makes it look easy

3174
03:38:01,630 --> 03:38:05,452
he's a sorcerer he is He is also from the

3175
03:38:05,612 --> 03:38:09,175
future, no doubt about it. Yeah. The next thing coming

3176
03:38:09,235 --> 03:38:12,597
up on the Mighty No Agenda stream is curated by

3177
03:38:12,697 --> 03:38:18,521
Sir Ryan Bemrose. Is DH unplugged? remembering jcd so you

3178
03:38:18,561 --> 03:38:22,324
want to stick around for that one We have end

3179
03:38:22,404 --> 03:38:25,646
of show mixes from Sir Chris Wilson. He's out of

3180
03:38:25,646 --> 03:38:31,950
retirement. I'm excited. Leo LePuke, Sir Ty, and Secret Agent

3181
03:38:32,090 --> 03:38:37,194
Paul. All of, I think two, three of those, I

3182
03:38:37,274 --> 03:38:39,895
think are no AI, or maybe all of them. So

3183
03:38:39,975 --> 03:38:44,639
that is very much appreciated. when the producers take the

3184
03:38:44,719 --> 03:38:48,801
time to, uh... to do the real thing. Thanks for

3185
03:38:48,801 --> 03:38:52,684
watching! Until next time, coming to you live just outside

3186
03:38:52,764 --> 03:38:56,907
of Chirac, right here in FEMA Region 5. In the

3187
03:38:56,967 --> 03:39:01,550
morning, everybody, I am Darren O'Neill. And from pretentious Connecticut,

3188
03:39:02,050 --> 03:39:06,433
I'm Larry Blydener. We'll be back here on Sunday. Yeah,

3189
03:39:06,493 --> 03:39:12,537
please join us and remember us at noagendadonations.com. Until then,

3190
03:39:12,577 --> 03:39:22,024
adios, mofos and such. The best podcast in the universe!

3191
03:39:24,545 --> 03:39:38,935
Adios, mofo. As you know, boobs are proof men can

3192
03:39:39,055 --> 03:39:43,038
focus on two things at once. That's a good one.

3193
03:39:43,218 --> 03:39:45,239
I like that one. That's a good one. It's observation.

3194
03:39:45,319 --> 03:39:55,746
Yeah, it's observation. young and lovely the girl from gitmo

3195
03:39:55,866 --> 03:40:00,449
nation goes walking and when she passed Each goat she

3196
03:40:00,550 --> 03:40:08,455
passes goes. When she walks it's like her samba With

3197
03:40:08,555 --> 03:40:14,259
jiggly boobs and small amygdala When she passes each goat

3198
03:40:14,579 --> 03:40:22,865
she passes goats Oh I want to give her some

3199
03:40:22,945 --> 03:40:36,294
karma What a night has so badly... I go and

3200
03:40:36,414 --> 03:40:42,037
ask for a num Would she write on some paper

3201
03:40:42,117 --> 03:30:00,006
for me? I read it back, she wrote 33. ♪

3202
03:40:47,901 --> 03:40:51,404
Tall and tan and young and lovely ♪ ♪ The

3203
03:40:51,524 --> 03:40:55,627
girl from Gitmonay, she goes walking ♪ ♪ But when

3204
03:40:55,767 --> 03:41:04,773
she passes, she doesn't see ♪ My douchebaggery. ♪ 'Cause

3205
03:41:04,773 --> 03:41:17,681
I listen for free ♪ Is you just eating? light

3206
03:41:17,841 --> 03:41:25,507
the world up with his scowl. ♪ Could make you

3207
03:41:25,767 --> 03:41:30,070
laugh out loud ♪ ♪ By listening to him grouch

3208
03:41:30,130 --> 03:41:32,812
and growl ♪ ♪ Now it hurts to know as

3209
03:41:32,892 --> 03:41:36,694
he lees through that door ♪ ♪ Acknowledging that there's

3210
03:41:36,834 --> 03:41:47,882
no more to for- ♪ ♪Same without two♪ It's gonna...

3211
03:41:49,022 --> 03:42:04,093
Same again. same as Gather around Gitmo Nation, let me

3212
03:42:04,353 --> 03:42:08,315
tell you the tale of a man born in 1952.

3213
03:42:09,476 --> 03:42:11,858
Now you cannot doubt that, Dave, because the New York

3214
03:42:11,918 --> 03:42:16,481
Times reported it, so therefore it must be true. Regardless

3215
03:42:16,541 --> 03:42:19,323
the year, it was April 5th to a mom who

3216
03:42:19,443 --> 03:42:23,025
raised him right, always aware of the threat of the

3217
03:42:23,105 --> 03:42:26,608
Chinese to their toilet paper. The man, the myth, the

3218
03:42:26,688 --> 03:42:31,611
legend, John C. Dvorak, J.C.D. From El Cerrito High School

3219
03:42:31,651 --> 03:42:34,493
to Berkeley College, though in the belly of the liberal

3220
03:42:34,593 --> 03:42:42,518
beast, he emerged wiser than most, his eyes still open

3221
03:42:43,479 --> 03:42:49,383
to see. Kawasaki trickle. No matter how cold the weather

3222
03:42:49,463 --> 03:42:52,185
may have been the Casanova to all would approach the

3223
03:42:52,225 --> 03:42:55,407
ladies as only he could with his classic pickup line

3224
03:42:56,148 --> 03:43:03,032
that always worked If you need proof that it worked,

3225
03:43:03,112 --> 03:43:07,715
look no further than Mimi. John C. Dvorak, where the

3226
03:43:07,895 --> 03:43:13,239
C stands for crankiest of geeks, where the C shows

3227
03:43:13,339 --> 03:43:18,863
his discerning taste in clip of the day, where the

3228
03:43:19,063 --> 03:43:23,226
C could stand for clip in the whipsaws or chick

3229
03:43:23,366 --> 03:43:29,130
magnet, where the C stands for Colonel of the Commonwealth

3230
03:43:29,210 --> 03:43:33,072
of Kentucky. The polymath of all men, he has done

3231
03:43:33,132 --> 03:43:35,974
it all, be it summer jobs, a construction, protecting us

3232
03:43:36,034 --> 03:43:39,677
from climate change. As a pollution inspector, he excelled. He

3233
03:43:39,717 --> 03:43:42,419
knew crude oil from the heavy sweet of South America

3234
03:43:42,779 --> 03:43:44,840
to the light sour of the Middle East and all

3235
03:43:44,900 --> 03:43:48,483
the hydrocarbons they emit. In the end, the only reason

3236
03:43:48,543 --> 03:43:52,305
San Francisco still has mudflats today is his diligent, watchful

3237
03:43:52,525 --> 03:43:55,748
eyes. Remember, knights and dames, he did all this while

3238
03:43:55,768 --> 03:43:59,150
the Zephyr rolled by, fighting off Barbara Boxer's advances each

3239
03:43:59,230 --> 03:44:03,333
day. Later, he would conquer all technology, be it InfoWorld,

3240
03:44:03,473 --> 03:44:31,211
PCMag, MarketWatch, We love you, John. You're gone too soon.

3241
03:44:34,954 --> 03:44:39,377
John C. Dvorak, where the C stands for choosing tip

3242
03:44:39,497 --> 03:44:45,981
of the day. Created by Dana Brunet. The C stands

3243
03:44:46,081 --> 03:44:52,025
for choosing stocks with Horowitz. S.C. stands for Cosmo.

3244
03:45:00,263 --> 03:45:02,865
Now let's gather at the round table, knights and dames,

3245
03:45:02,865 --> 03:45:06,128
one last time for some mutton and mead. We've shed

3246
03:45:06,208 --> 03:45:08,630
our tears and now it's time to do as JCB

3247
03:45:08,950 --> 03:45:11,592
would want us to. Because we all know if John's

3248
03:45:11,652 --> 03:45:14,175
ghost were here today, there's only one thing he would

3249
03:45:14,295 --> 03:45:23,582
say. Donate! Donate! What day of the week is it

3250
03:45:23,602 --> 03:45:31,249
today? What color tie are you wearing? What color is

3251
03:45:31,289 --> 03:45:35,813
the carpet in front of you? The advice of counsel

3252
03:45:35,893 --> 03:45:39,476
I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under

3253
03:45:39,476 --> 03:45:45,481
the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Do the Fifth Amendment.

3254
03:45:45,541 --> 03:45:53,928
Do the Fifth Amendment. That's it. FUNNELS GOOOOO- Do the

3255
03:45:53,948 --> 03:45:58,552
Fifth Amendment. Do the Fifth Amendment. Whatever you do Do

3256
03:45:58,632 --> 03:46:02,615
the shift. Do it. Do the shift. I respectfully decline

3257
03:46:02,755 --> 03:46:05,417
to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment

3258
03:46:05,477 --> 03:46:10,281
to the Constitution. Well, nothing says honesty like taking the

3259
03:46:10,341 --> 03:46:19,909
fifth, huh, Doc? Dr. Fauci, thanks so much for joining

3260
03:46:20,009 --> 03:46:24,653
us. Good to be here, Bruce. The best podcast in

3261
03:46:24,833 --> 03:46:39,826
the universe! Adios, mofo. You're so fucking fired.