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Adam Curry. It's Sunday, September 13th, 2026. This is your

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award-winning Kimo Nation Media Assassination episode 1903. This is No

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many... Curry and Friends episode, we have the one and

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only, I can't believe he's here, Dana Brunetti, who will

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be joining us for the show. Thank you. And as

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show off with a song. Thank you very much, Just

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Baker. He'll be here in just two minutes. Sunday Signal,

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Adam Curry, Brodanna Brunetti. Came through camera ready, calm, cool,

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and steady. No confetti needed, conversation stays heavy. Hollywood receipts

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in the trunk like a black Chevy. Say the name

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Dane, somebody frame. The game from the guy who helped

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shape a lane where the suits and the storytellers trade

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favors. Now he's breaking down the feed with curry. No

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chase. Then a brunette. Move smooth like Andretti. Cut through

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media spaghetti. Leave the talking heads petty. Social network heat.

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House of cards when the neck got ready. Binge the

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whole deck. Appointment TV. Got sweaty. So raise up the

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game. Let the Sunday feed train. Adam on the board

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with the brand new code. Play it from the credits

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to the clips, let the narrative get messy It's the

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No Agenda Show with Curry and Brunetti Come on, man.

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When we bring a guest on, we show our love,

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don't we? that was great no it wasn't all that

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great but it was okay i mean it's ai what

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can i you know it's not like guns and roses

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drop by to do a song for you but hey

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dana how you doing man um i'm just here at

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the ranch uh doing the podcast with you i i

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have uh uh honestly i have butterflies in my stomach

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at the cusp of all kinds of premieres and excitement.

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Will something work? Will it not work? But it's good.

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I think it's a healthy butterflies. Yeah, it's been years

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since I've been in that arena, though. So this is

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my first time actually doing anything publicly like a podcast

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or interview or anything like that. Yeah. And thank you

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very much. Appreciate it. By the way, in the morning

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to you. I haven't really said in the morning in

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the morning. so I think it would be good if

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you just because you are you know people going all

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hollywood's on no this is and i think anti-hollywood i

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think i can i try to get into the uh...

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troll room but it it says i need that i

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was up to know you're in no i think you're

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in no i am i i had to write something

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and i was going to go why but why would

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you even want to be in the troll room i

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mean this is this is healthy is not healthy to

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do the show and be in the in the troll

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room it's Hey, that is one thing I have learned

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trying to get ready for this show. I have a

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whole new respect for what you and John do and

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did on the show. Oh, wait. Oh, wait. Oh, wait.

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Are you thinking you should have donated more? Is that

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what you're thinking? Because now you see how much work.

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don't. Donated so much behind the scenes on all those

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dinners with John. Yeah, exactly. What did I get out

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of it? Nothing. Well, you live in the wrong state

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for a different state. I mean, not the wrong state,

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but a different state. So too far away to come

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to those dinners. So could you just I mean, we've

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talked about you a lot on the show. We love

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the fact that you're a producer of the show. How

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did you even find no agenda? Let's just start there

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and work backwards. Okay. So I think it actually was

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one of my first notes that I sent in. That

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I kind of said it, but I moved I left

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Hollywood or L.A. in 2019, but it was a process

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that I started around 2018 when I started to see

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not only L.A. start to change, but really Hollywood change.

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of my game, and what better time to go out

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than at the top? And so I started to plan

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my exit, and knowing, as I said, that things were

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changing, not having any idea how – much and how

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badly they were going to change both in LA and

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in the industry itself. And I started looking at places

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to move to. And I was looking in Florida, Texas,

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New Mexico, Arizona. And my business manager said, hey, you're

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matter where you go. And a broker I was using

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get still would originate from here. So anyways, I moved

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to an area that is not as… Luna is not

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as full of lunatics and crazies, and it's actually a

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very conservative area, one of the more conservative areas of

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Bay Area. And so anyways, I was here. I found

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this property. It was 40 acres of land. With a

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mule. 40 acres and a mule. And it had two

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wells and a power pole, and that was it. There

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was nothing ever built here. There was an old crappy

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barn. That was falling down. You couldn't even walk through

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the property and it was supposed to be a two

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year project. And so I was starting to do that

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on the weekends. I had somebody working here. And then

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when L.A. shut down permanently and I guess it was

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to the land and I never left. And as I

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was here clearing the land, literally riding around the tractor

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with headphones, looking, listening to audio books and looking for

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new things to listen to. I remembered John doing Cranky

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Geeks. I was like, I wonder whatever happened with that.

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Yeah. So I started searching on John Dvorak, and it

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came up with No Agenda, and I saw your name,

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and I was like, Adam Curry? What is John and

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Adam Curry doing together? What's up with that? That's odd.

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you know, leading show. And I'm like, oh, my God,

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this is so refreshing. This is amazing. Oh, you caught

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us right at COVID time. That's what happened. Oh, yeah,

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of course. Yeah. Yeah, and so I started listening then,

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and you misgendered me the first time I sent in

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a note. Showed you how Hollywood I am. I'm like,

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Dana, what is she doing talking to the show? Yeah,

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okay, sorry. And then the rest is history. John reached

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out to me shortly after that. And we became really

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good friends and surprisingly so. As my wife said, she

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didn't understand why the two of us got along and

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we would talk so much and why we always would

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have dinner together and became really good friends and talked

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evening and either call John or he would call me.

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said to him. I guess it was enough to keep

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the banter going. I'll tell you, for 15 years, I

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was high doing the show with John. So I know

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exactly what you're talking about. That was the best way

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to do it, to talk with John. Absolutely. He loved

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it. So that. So this is really phenomenal because you

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left your Hollywood career, I'd say, at the top of

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your game. I'm going to give you the Wikipedia list

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of the filmography. And you can tell me if it's

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wrong or not. Starting in 2002, Uncle Frank, Beyond the

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Sea, the Sasquatch Gang. I don't know what that is.

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so it's very much in that same vein. Yeah. It

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was a small independent film we made for about $2

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million. Oh, wow. Okay. Minnie's first time, which sounds like

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a prelude to Fifty Shades of Grey. Well, sort of.

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And that resulted in the very public battle I had

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with Alec Baldwin on Twitter. Oh, wow. I forgot about

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that. He claimed that he didn't know that Nikki Reed

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was under the age of 16. in his memoirs and

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so I called him out on Twitter because he basically

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blamed it on the producers as though we had won

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over on him. Wait a minute, did you just say,

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I called him out on Twitter? Okay, all right. It

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was called Twitter then. All right, we move on. 21,

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which I don't know what 21 was. I don't know

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what that's about. The MIT card counters. Oh, yeah. Columbus

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Day. I think I've seen Columbus Day. It wasn't a

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Val Kilmer movie. It wasn't great. hackers wanted now go

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ahead well because what people don't know about you is

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you're a nerd you're very similar to me where you

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know just enough to be dangerous when it comes to

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technology I think yeah very similar to you just without

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the hair exactly go look at his photo everybody hackers

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that to be released, and it was released online. It

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was about... It started off to be about hackers and

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ended up focusing on Adrian Lamo. I don't know if

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you remember him. I know him. But he was... There's

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actually a weird – that film ultimately led to Bradley

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Manning, at least in my theory, Bradley Manning being arrested.

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or Afghanistan, wherever it was, he watched that documentary online

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through one of the leaks and. And contacted Adrian and

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Adrian because he felt like Adrian was a sympathetic soul.

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movie released, because Adrian was a very good social engineer

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and manipulator. Right. And he's dead now, but he manipulated

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two or three different directors I had on the on

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the film trying to make it and was turning it

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and swaying them to paint him in a certain light,

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which that certain light is what made him. Bradley Manning

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feel like that he could confide in him. So now

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you produce these movies, right? So what does that mean?

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all? uh usually it means you get the least money

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of all unless it hits a producer of a film

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or a tv show is the one who usually is

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the the first one who's like the champion of a

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project that's trying to put it all together it's like

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a project manager You know, a script is like a

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blueprint and you're trying to get people attached to it

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as far as like a director or talent trying to

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get it financed either at a studio or independently. So

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you're kind of running around. So this is where you

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go to the studio and say, look, I have this

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director attached to it. Yeah, I have Alec Baldwin attached

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to it. That's that was you. Yeah. Okay, cool. And

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you're basically a sales guy at that point until you

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actually start. You're a sales guy with every aspect. You're

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a sales guy trying to get the director to buy

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into it. You're a sales guy trying to get the

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actors or the... The writer to write the idea, if

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it's like a book or just an idea, and then

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a sales guy trying to get the studio or the

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financier to buy it and pay for it. So tell

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me how the social network came together. I'm going to

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skip a few here, but the social network, of course,

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that was a huge movie. Mm-hmm. So – That stemmed

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from 21. Ben Mesrick wrote the book Bringing Down the

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House, not the Queen Latifah movie, but the book called

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Bringing Down the House that we then turned into the

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movie 21. Um, and the movie was number one, the

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first two weekends in a row. And I went to

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Ben and I was like, what else do you have?

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I'd sold all of his books and including a couple

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of proposals of books that he was writing. Cause you

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know, in Hollywood, you're only as hot as your last

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project. And so I, I'm like, we're hot now. What

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do you got? And he had told me about –

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he goes, I had this guy who contacted me who's

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– there's another founder of Facebook, and I'm not really

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sure about it. And so I'm like, Facebook? I'm like,

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we can't make a movie about Facebook. He's like, no,

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wait. He's like, you have to hear the story once

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he kind of got into it. And once he told

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me, I'm like, oh, okay. That's good. And so we

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took it to Sony because that's where we had done

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21. So I basically gave them the first look at

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not that I had a first look deal. And they

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kind of went back and forth on it for about

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a week. And then I was like, OK, well, we're

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going to start going out to others with it. And

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I was at Robert Luke Kettick's house on a Sunday

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night, drunk because we were drinking because, you know, partying

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of the celebration of being number one the second week

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in a row. And I got a message from the

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studio that they wanted to get on the phone with

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me and Ben Mesrick. This is a Sunday night because

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they wanted to. talked to us before we went out

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hard to the rest of the town with the proposal.

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So it was like a 20-page proposal for the accidental

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billionaires is what it ultimately became. And we didn't have

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an ending because we didn't know how it ended. We

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hadn't gotten to Eduardo yet. And they... were asking us

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about the project. Ben was going through his usual pitch

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of the proposal, which I'd heard, you know, 50 times

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by that point. And... And when I called Ben to

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say, hey, the studio wants to get on, it was

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like 11 o'clock his time. And he was like, what

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is like it's like 11 o'clock. He's like, well, what

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are we going to tell him? He's like, they had

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the proposal. We've already talked to him. I'm like, I

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don't know. Just go through the same pitch and let's

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just let's talk to him. So on with 203 of

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the executives at studio, Ben was going through this through

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his pitch. And I told him at the start, oh,

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by the way, I'm drunk. And it was like, oh,

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great. And so we're going through the pitch, Venice. And

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then he like stumbles and like loses his train of

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thought. And I guess it was in my drunken ambition.

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I just started blabbing. And to this day, I have

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no idea what I said. No recollection of what you

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said. No, of course not. Of course. No idea what

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I said. It's always how the hits come together. I

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hate that. Oh, man. And they said, okay, great. We'll

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have a business affairs call this week, and we'll get

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it papered. Hung up the phone, called Ben back. He

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was like, dude, that was amazing. You should do every

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pitch drunk. So I just want to say one of

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my favorite scenes from that movie was James Taylor playing

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at – MySpace, a MySpace party. Do you remember this

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scene? I don't think that's – no. I have no

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idea what you're talking about. Yes, I think it was

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James Taylor. It was like, fuck Facebook. That was in

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the social network. I'm getting old. I'm forgetting a lot.

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I'm not sure. Okay. Dana is drunk right now, everybody.

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So I'm just going to move. We got to get

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to some news, too, because you did a lot of

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clips and you really prepared and very excited to deconstruct

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the media with you because you know a lot about

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it. Just briefly, though, Captain Phillips was the Tom Hanks

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movie, which was also a huge success. I think that

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was – didn't it win an award? Didn't it win

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an Academy Award, a Golden Globe? I never won an

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Academy Award. I won a Golden Globe. Not for that.

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I won that for Social Network. I've won quite a

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few. I've been nominated for pretty much everything. I was

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nominated for two Academy Awards. One was for Social Network

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and one was for Captain Phillips. There was a funny

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aspect with Captain Phillips where... uh, uh, barcode, the main

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Somali, you know, the one that's on all the memes.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. It was his first time acting.

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Um, and he got nominated for an Oscar and Tom

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Hanks. Wait, isn't he a Elon Omar's brother? No, I

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don't think so. But we found all of these Somalis

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in Minnesota. So this was whenever 2012 or whatever before

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we knew about everything we know about now. I was

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like, where are we going to get these? And they're

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like, in Minnesota, there's a huge population of Somalis, the

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largest Somali population in the country. So we did a

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casting call there. And I guess I wasn't there. It

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was a local casting director who did it. And I

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guess there was the whole building was like surrounded with

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people that had showed up to audition. And Barca, to

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his credit, got the other guys that were there before

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they went in and said, hey, let's like go in

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together and audition. do this and that caught paul greengrass's

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eye on the tape that the the four of them

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were working together and then i'll give you a quick

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um when they didn't know they got the gig none

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of them were actors and we had them out at

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shutters and um santa monica here at the oh yeah

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i know i know shutters sure i've been there once

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and Paul told them – they just thought they were

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meeting with the director. It was more part of the

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audition process, and we'd already made up our mind that

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these were going to be the guys. And when Paul

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told them, they ran out and ran across the beach

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and jumped in the ocean. Okay. All right. Yeah. What

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everybody wants to know is Tom Hanks. Is he really

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creepy? Now, actually, Tom Hanks is one of the nicest

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guys I ever worked with and was just a really

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genuine good guy. Was? Was? Did he change? I mean,

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what's up with the pictures of shoes? The shoes on

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the weird pictures. What's going on with him? I don't

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know. What pictures of shoes are you talking about? He

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would do pictures of single baby shoes. And he had

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all kinds of weird pictures on his Instagram. This was

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all when... And they went to... Man, weren't you listening

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to the show? And he and Rita went to Australia,

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and then we all believed they were part of the

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PSYOP for the vaccine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I actually

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emailed with him when he got there, and I asked

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him if I could get his life rights to make

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the movie of him, and I wanted Samuel Jackson to

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play him in the movie. Okay. Okay. So, all right.

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So a nice guy. What happened? How did he get

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such a weird rap?

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I don't understand that. Well, there's – and rightfully so

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in a lot of aspects. A lot of people hate

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Hollywood and hate the people mainly for the politics but

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also just their craziness. And so some people, I think,

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get caught up into it, and I think it has

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more to do with politics than anything. But yeah, there's

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a lot of bad people in Hollywood. Um, uh, on

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it from my personal opinion and I could be wrong.

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I've been wrong about a lot of things. Um, you

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know, I really think he's a good guy. By the

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way, I stand corrected. It was funny people. Where James

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Taylor said it was doing. I'm sorry. It should have

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been. It should have been. That was the scene you

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needed in the social network. I'm just saying. So you

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were giving me a critique. But you thought you were

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actually talking about a scene in my movie. Yes. I

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have some notes for you. All right. Then, of course.

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This is what bought the farm for you, 50 shades

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of gray, 50 shades darker, 50 shades free, 50 shades

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I'm rich. I mean, what an amazing run you had

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with that. Just briefly, where did this idea even come

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from? Yeah. From the book, I presume. Well, yeah, the

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book was a huge success. And I was actually shooting

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Captain Phillips, and one of my executives called me and

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he said, hey, you know this book, Fifty Shades of

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Grey? And I was like, yeah. And he's like, well,

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the author lives in London. I was like, okay. He's

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like, well, you're in London. I was like, well, okay.

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Okay. He's like, well, there's not a producer on the

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movie yet. And I said to him, what about me

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and the movies I've made makes you think that I'm

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the producer for this? Because you hang out with creepy

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guys like Tom Hanks and Kevin Spacey. You're perfect for

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it. I don't think this movie is made for them

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or those movies are made for them. But so we

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were shooting the interior of the lifeboat scenes and Captain

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Phillips had an old tank factory outside of London. And

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Mike DeLuca, who's now the head of Warner Brothers, was

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producing it with me, a really good friend of mine.

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And. I was in the car heading to set when

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I was having this call and he and I shared

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an office together and I walked into our office outside

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the set there and said, hey, do you know this

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book, Fifty Shades of Grey? And he was like, yeah.

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And I'm like, what? Have you read it? He's like.

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Of course I have. I'm a pervert. Boom! I was

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like, do you think there's a movie in it? And

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he's like, yeah, I think there's a great movie in

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it. So I'm like, well, can you tell me what

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it is? And he was like, well, why? And so

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I explained to him that there was this meeting trying

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to be set up between me and the author and...

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uh here in london and i said do you want

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to come to the meeting with me so he ultimately

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came to me it turned out it wasn't with the

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author was with uh her manager And she basically told

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us that the producers had already been chosen. But do

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we want to consider some of these other books some

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of our other clients had written? Of course. Oh, we

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got the old bait and switch. But by the end

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of the meeting, it seemed like that there actually was

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some possibility that we might be able to get our

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hat in the ring. And then when we were in

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Virginia Beach shooting the scenes with the SEALs, we got

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the call that we were going to be the producers.

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So we basically got selected. So it was a kind

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of a different type of scenario. Where we weren't kind

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of shopping it around, we were selling ourselves to come

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on as the producers. So then just the final project

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I want to ask you about, because I think you

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put streaming on the map. Actually, two series put streaming

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on the map when we were all binge watching like

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nut jobs. One was... What was the... It's escaping me

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now. The cooking meth... Breaking Bad. Breaking Bad, thank you.

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Cooking meth, Breaking Bad. That was on AMC. That didn't

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stream. Well, that's where we all binged it. Because I

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never watched it. And then all of a sudden, it's

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like, oh, look at this, man. I can watch a

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thousand episodes one after another. But what really broke big

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and I think put Netflix on the map is House

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of Cards. Yes. Yes. So House of Cards, that came

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about while I was shooting The Social Network, the scene

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when Eduardo shows up in the rain and there's the

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girls are smoking a bong and playing video games on

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a couch in between setups at that house. It was

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a house out in the valley. Me and David Fincher,

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the director, were sitting on a couch, and he knew

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I worked with Kevin, and he said, hey, would he

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ever consider doing television? And what he didn't know, I'd

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actually had been talking to Kevin about doing television, and

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I said, yeah, why? Right. He's like, well, there's this

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British series called House of Cards about the House of

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Parliament. And we're working with this guy who was Bo

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Williman to adapt it for the U.S. And so that's

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how it originated. It took probably a year or two

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or probably two years. I remember there was another project

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that we had with Rod Laurie that we took out

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that ended up not selling. That was a really good

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project as well. And but before we took it out,

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I told Fincher, hey, just so you know, there's this

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other show. So it's kind of a horse race. And

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his response is such Fincher. And it's very, very Fincher.

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His response was, yeah, ours is better. And it's basically

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like, yeah, go ahead and do that. But I know

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ours is better. And it's going to be, you know,

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this is going to be the one he's going to

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want to do. And he was right. And it got

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taken out to to the town. We had originally HBO

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was interested. And we thought it was going to go

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to HBO and Fincher kept pushing them to do like

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six episodes rather than just a pilot. This was when

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everybody did pilots. And so which was a very inefficient

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method because you would you shoot the pilot and then

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shoot. After production was done, everything get wrapped up, packed

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and stored away. Everybody would leave. And then the studio

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would or the networks would, you know, test it and

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give notes and do whatever. And then you come back

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if they picked it up from the pilot and start

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over again. And Fincher just wanted to go and do

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multiple episodes at a time. And HBO refused to do

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it. And they used the TV show Luck at the

473
00:26:55,754 --> 00:26:59,264
time as an example. Like we didn't even do this

474
00:26:59,264 --> 00:27:01,714
for it was I can't remember some really big names

475
00:27:01,714 --> 00:27:05,534
that were involved, Dustin Hoffman and a few others. And

476
00:27:05,534 --> 00:27:08,574
ironically, that show got canceled shortly after because they were

477
00:27:08,574 --> 00:27:12,854
killing horses. But so we're like, OK, well, we'll do

478
00:27:12,854 --> 00:27:15,824
it the way they want to do it in the

479
00:27:15,824 --> 00:27:19,084
way that it was still getting done. And there was

480
00:27:19,084 --> 00:27:23,754
a like a throwaway meeting to Netflix. And that I

481
00:27:23,754 --> 00:27:26,624
wasn't a part of or didn't go to, didn't even

482
00:27:26,624 --> 00:27:30,794
know about. And the idea was, well, because Reed Hastings

483
00:27:30,794 --> 00:27:33,524
had said on an earnings call a few months before

484
00:27:33,524 --> 00:27:37,284
that they had no intention of doing original content. And

485
00:27:37,284 --> 00:27:41,264
so I guess the idea was, well, We'll see what

486
00:27:41,264 --> 00:27:44,284
happens if they make any kind of offer, then that

487
00:27:44,284 --> 00:27:47,294
can be used to negotiate with others to try to

488
00:27:47,294 --> 00:27:50,344
get a better deal. And they bought it in a

489
00:27:50,344 --> 00:27:55,844
room and offered $100 million for two seasons. Holy moly.

490
00:27:56,564 --> 00:27:58,844
And I didn't know about it. Kevin didn't know about

491
00:27:58,844 --> 00:28:02,444
it. And it was on a Saturday. And Kevin had

492
00:28:02,444 --> 00:28:06,304
a house in Malibu. And I went down to visit

493
00:28:06,304 --> 00:28:10,074
him. And he went out to get coffee. And when

494
00:28:10,074 --> 00:28:12,574
he came back, he's like, hey, Fincher just called. And

495
00:28:12,574 --> 00:28:15,344
he wants to speak to both of us. So, OK,

496
00:28:15,344 --> 00:28:17,884
this can't be good if we're getting a call from

497
00:28:17,884 --> 00:28:21,534
the director on Saturday and we're going to announce on

498
00:28:21,534 --> 00:28:25,444
Monday that we're doing this deal with another network. And

499
00:28:25,444 --> 00:28:31,314
he told us about this idea with Netflix. And I'd

500
00:28:31,314 --> 00:28:34,384
already known, obviously, as you said, I'm a big nerd

501
00:28:34,384 --> 00:28:37,724
and new streaming was definitely the way things were going

502
00:28:37,724 --> 00:28:40,774
and was a big proponent of it and been pushing

503
00:28:40,774 --> 00:28:43,254
for it and wanted to be like one of the

504
00:28:43,254 --> 00:28:47,784
first to do a movie that was released online. And

505
00:28:47,784 --> 00:28:51,024
Kevin had known that. I'd talked about that a lot.

506
00:28:51,154 --> 00:28:54,444
And so Fincher told us that, hey, Netflix has this.

507
00:28:54,444 --> 00:28:57,634
And Kevin, to be clear, Kevin lived in London the

508
00:28:57,634 --> 00:29:01,824
majority of the time. And so. So his idea of

509
00:29:01,824 --> 00:29:05,884
what he wasn't really aware of, they were just starting

510
00:29:05,884 --> 00:29:08,444
the streaming aspect. And it was like a website. You

511
00:29:08,444 --> 00:29:09,914
could only do it on a computer. And they had

512
00:29:09,914 --> 00:29:12,784
like, I think, like 90 titles on it. This was

513
00:29:12,784 --> 00:29:17,254
before Quickster. Remember the whole Quickster debacle? Quickster? Yeah. Yeah,

514
00:29:17,254 --> 00:29:19,944
that was a thing that Netflix tried to spin off

515
00:29:19,944 --> 00:29:22,274
that completely failed, and Reed Hastings ended up doing a

516
00:29:22,274 --> 00:29:25,544
public apology for it. I don't remember that. So it

517
00:29:25,544 --> 00:29:28,734
was early, early days. I remember Quibi. Quibi. I remember

518
00:29:28,734 --> 00:29:32,804
Quibi. Yeah, that was well after. That was a billion-dollar

519
00:29:32,804 --> 00:29:36,734
disaster. Yeah, that was – what's his name? It was

520
00:29:36,734 --> 00:29:41,984
Katzenberg. Yeah. Yeah. So anyways, I pick up the phone.

521
00:29:42,084 --> 00:29:45,764
It was on a landline. and I sell service there

522
00:29:45,764 --> 00:29:49,304
at the beach is horrible. And I'm on one phone

523
00:29:49,304 --> 00:29:52,644
and Kevin's on another phone and Fincher tells us this.

524
00:29:52,804 --> 00:29:56,514
And he's like, so we're, we're going to do the

525
00:29:56,514 --> 00:29:59,924
show on DVD. And I was like, yeah, Kevin, we're,

526
00:30:00,020 --> 00:30:02,190
I'm going to do it on DVD. Just say yes,

527
00:30:02,190 --> 00:30:03,980
and I'll explain it to you after we hang up.

528
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,020
Ah, okay. Yeah, Netflix DVD. Yeah, I got it. Okay.

529
00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:10,220
Yeah, so that's his whole idea of Netflix at the

530
00:30:10,220 --> 00:30:15,060
time. And... I'm like, look, this is going to happen

531
00:30:15,060 --> 00:30:17,230
one way or the other. It's either going to happen

532
00:30:17,230 --> 00:30:18,960
in five or 10 years, or we can be the

533
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,000
ones to do it now. So everybody gives me credit

534
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,730
for starting streaming and all that. It would have happened

535
00:30:25,730 --> 00:30:29,650
no matter what. And you're so humble, humble. I love

536
00:30:29,650 --> 00:30:35,680
it. But yeah, it was what really put Netflix on

537
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,510
the map. So just as a final Hollywood question, then

538
00:30:39,510 --> 00:30:40,700
I just want to get into the news with you.

539
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:46,610
What is it like partying with Harvey Weinstein? Harvey and

540
00:30:46,610 --> 00:30:50,500
I, we had some public spats, and we didn't like

541
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:55,200
each other. I did a movie. called Fanboys, which was

542
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,360
about Star Wars fans that he pretty much butchered and

543
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,100
tried every Every week whatever the hit movie was of

544
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:06,540
comedy movies He tried to inject something different into it

545
00:31:06,540 --> 00:31:09,330
and was just a whole mess And I publicly went

546
00:31:09,330 --> 00:31:13,300
after him a couple times on Twitter on Twitter. Did

547
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:15,620
you call him out on Twitter on Twitter? on radio

548
00:31:15,620 --> 00:31:18,490
interviews. You can, you can find them out there. And

549
00:31:18,490 --> 00:31:21,340
I will say this too, with everything, with, I feel

550
00:31:21,340 --> 00:31:25,080
like I was a complete idiot. Cause when everything started

551
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,350
coming out about Harvey, I had no idea. Yeah. And

552
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:32,350
I was like, I had no idea this guy was

553
00:31:32,350 --> 00:31:35,870
doing. I had so many interactions and meetings and dealt

554
00:31:35,870 --> 00:31:39,530
with him. And I didn't like the guy. We did

555
00:31:39,530 --> 00:31:43,770
not get along. And so I somehow either... by my

556
00:31:43,770 --> 00:31:45,990
dislike of him had blinders and I missed all of

557
00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:49,340
this but I never heard anything never saw anything of

558
00:31:49,340 --> 00:31:52,150
all and I mean I believe every bit of it

559
00:31:52,150 --> 00:31:54,710
but I was I was like how could I have

560
00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:58,110
missed all that I worked with a guy and it

561
00:31:58,110 --> 00:32:03,110
was incredible but um yeah that's never really uh partied

562
00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:05,270
with him okay I mean, he was at a lot

563
00:32:05,270 --> 00:32:07,740
of parties. Here, I'll give you a quick Harvey story.

564
00:32:07,740 --> 00:32:11,920
He cornered me once at the Academy luncheon every year.

565
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,040
Everybody's nominated for an Academy Award. They do a big

566
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,920
luncheon. And so it's every who's who of Hollywood is

567
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,250
there. And I was going back to the bathroom and

568
00:32:21,250 --> 00:32:23,960
coming out. He was standing by this pillar and he

569
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,900
was on the phone. He was like, hey, Dana. He's

570
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:28,440
like, hey. I'm like, hey, Harvey, what's up? And he's

571
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,270
like, hey, I just wanted to say to you, he

572
00:32:30,270 --> 00:32:33,060
goes, you got the best film this year. And it

573
00:32:33,060 --> 00:32:36,300
was a social network. I was like, oh, really? And

574
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:40,420
this was he had King's Speech. Which beat us for

575
00:32:40,420 --> 00:32:43,080
the Oscars. Right, right. Which was a good movie, too.

576
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,460
That was a good movie. It was a good movie.

577
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,860
I don't think it was the Oscar winner, though. Well,

578
00:32:47,860 --> 00:32:50,790
what do you mean? You got a stuttering guy. You

579
00:32:50,790 --> 00:32:55,650
know, that always wins. Either you're an idiot savant, a

580
00:32:55,650 --> 00:32:59,780
stutterer. You know, that always wins. yeah well even harvey

581
00:32:59,780 --> 00:33:01,940
said he said you got the best movie this year

582
00:33:01,940 --> 00:33:04,210
and then he called himself he's like all right well

583
00:33:04,210 --> 00:33:05,720
one of the two and i was like all right

584
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,630
thanks harvey i appreciate it so you you basically have

585
00:33:09,630 --> 00:33:13,770
been uh a douche to hollywood you said you gave

586
00:33:13,770 --> 00:33:17,410
a big middle finger to hollywood are they still calling

587
00:33:17,410 --> 00:33:20,660
you do they still want you to do stuff Uh,

588
00:33:20,660 --> 00:33:25,000
not the people that can actually, uh, uh, not the

589
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,620
people, not the people with power. Okay. Got it. Yeah.

590
00:33:28,980 --> 00:33:35,460
So, uh, two days ago, I'm, uh, um, uh, uh,

591
00:33:35,550 --> 00:33:37,690
I mean, you can tell, you know, the way I

592
00:33:37,690 --> 00:33:41,280
think and it's not. Yeah, you're you're you're no agenda

593
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,060
producer. We know exactly how you think. Yeah, exactly. And

594
00:33:45,060 --> 00:33:49,840
it's that wasn't accepted when I left. And when that

595
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:56,110
was nothing compared to how it is now. Right. I

596
00:33:56,110 --> 00:34:00,540
believe that. So two years, two days ago, we had

597
00:34:00,540 --> 00:34:06,980
our annual television extravaganza moment where we remember 9-11, which

598
00:34:06,980 --> 00:34:10,920
is to me, it's always triggering to me because I

599
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,880
think of all the. All the things that really happened,

600
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,150
I think, you know, obviously, 3000 people died, you know,

601
00:34:17,150 --> 00:34:19,320
all of this is bad. But out of that came

602
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,690
the Iraq war, the Patriot Act was signed, you know,

603
00:34:22,690 --> 00:34:25,640
six weeks later, half the people never even read it,

604
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,560
you know, weird things were going on. I remember within

605
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,530
days. The thing was on CNN, there were these people

606
00:34:32,530 --> 00:34:37,160
yelling on the street. And I think CNN was like,

607
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,970
well, there's some people here protesting. Let's go talk to

608
00:34:38,970 --> 00:34:42,140
them. And they were saying 9-11 was an inside job.

609
00:34:42,140 --> 00:34:46,380
And that was pretty early on in my media deconstruction

610
00:34:46,380 --> 00:34:51,790
phase. just looking at all the odd things that took

611
00:34:51,790 --> 00:34:55,240
place. But I learned from you when we had dinner

612
00:34:55,240 --> 00:34:59,440
just before John's memorial that you were in New York

613
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,680
on nine 11, not far from the twin towers. Yeah.

614
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,980
Yeah, I was I was about two blocks away from

615
00:35:05,980 --> 00:35:09,460
well, not about I was two blocks away from building

616
00:35:09,460 --> 00:35:13,970
seven. My street ended at building seven. The one that

617
00:35:13,970 --> 00:35:17,370
fell at five. The one that the one that fell

618
00:35:17,370 --> 00:35:20,960
because it was so sad about building one and two.

619
00:35:21,140 --> 00:35:23,510
Like, oh, I think I'm going to collapse now. Did

620
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:28,850
you see it implode? No, so I was in my

621
00:35:28,850 --> 00:35:33,320
apartment. My apartment building was an 11-story building. I was

622
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,860
on the ninth floor. I have incredible footage from it.

623
00:35:36,860 --> 00:35:40,020
I have footage of it before the fire even started.

624
00:35:42,340 --> 00:35:45,790
But... I was at my daughter's mother's and my girlfriend

625
00:35:45,790 --> 00:35:48,340
at the time was in the bathroom blow drying her

626
00:35:48,340 --> 00:35:50,970
hair and the building shook and there was a huge

627
00:35:50,970 --> 00:35:54,740
boom. And I was like, what what was that? And

628
00:35:54,740 --> 00:35:58,500
all my windows, they faced towards the east and the

629
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:01,860
towers were two blocks south of me. So I couldn't

630
00:36:01,860 --> 00:36:03,800
really see what was going on. But I saw a

631
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,570
girl that I knew, this model, who lived in a

632
00:36:06,570 --> 00:36:09,420
building across from me. I saw her come out on

633
00:36:09,420 --> 00:36:12,230
her deck and look towards the towers and just put

634
00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:14,520
her hands on her head. And so I'm like, okay,

635
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,270
something happened. And I told Johanna, hey, I'm going to

636
00:36:18,270 --> 00:36:20,200
go up on the roof so I can see what

637
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,020
happened. Okay. And this is the plane had just hit.

638
00:36:24,020 --> 00:36:27,210
And as I was going out the door, there was

639
00:36:27,210 --> 00:36:30,740
a video camera that was there next to the door

640
00:36:30,740 --> 00:36:33,860
that I grabbed. And I started as I walked up

641
00:36:33,860 --> 00:36:37,070
the stairs, the two flights to the 11th floor to

642
00:36:37,070 --> 00:36:40,180
the roof. And I started the camera right as I

643
00:36:40,180 --> 00:36:41,720
was going out because I'm like, I have no idea

644
00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:44,190
what I'm going to see. And there was two building

645
00:36:44,190 --> 00:36:47,560
workers, two of the maintenance guys were on the roof

646
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,720
and one other resident. And these guys were in shock.

647
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,570
They were up there when this plane just barreled over

648
00:36:53,570 --> 00:36:55,910
them and crashed into the side of the building. Now,

649
00:36:55,910 --> 00:37:00,100
you saw it. You saw a plane crash. An airplane?

650
00:37:00,220 --> 00:37:03,940
No. No, I saw the hole that the first one

651
00:37:03,940 --> 00:37:05,930
had left. Didn't it look to you like Wile E.

652
00:37:05,930 --> 00:37:09,580
Coyote, the way the wings and everything were in the

653
00:37:09,580 --> 00:37:15,560
side of the building? It was crazy. The fire had

654
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,750
– it was hard to comprehend. I remember – The

655
00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:23,290
other tenant who was on the roof asking them because

656
00:37:23,290 --> 00:37:25,620
they were like, it was a plane. It was a

657
00:37:25,620 --> 00:37:28,200
big plane. And he was like, an A6 Galaxy or

658
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,780
whatever. I know they fly around here every hour. He

659
00:37:30,780 --> 00:37:33,880
thought it was because it looked like a small plane

660
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,160
to me. It looked like a small plane. And I

661
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,050
remember there wasn't a cloud in the sky. And I'm

662
00:37:39,050 --> 00:37:43,080
like, what went so wrong? that they how did they

663
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,720
hit right and i was using my camera the lens

664
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:49,770
had a really good lens on it to zoom into

665
00:37:49,770 --> 00:37:52,350
the hole to try to you know see what i

666
00:37:52,350 --> 00:37:56,030
could see or figure out what you know because the

667
00:37:56,030 --> 00:38:00,300
fire hadn't started and then uh actually in the video

668
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:03,150
you hear the My neighbor said, oh, damn, there's a

669
00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:07,580
fire starting. And so I filmed it for a bit.

670
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,820
I went back down into my apartment and I turned

671
00:38:10,820 --> 00:38:12,940
on the news. It wasn't even on the news yet.

672
00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:17,300
And then while I was down there calling a couple

673
00:38:17,300 --> 00:38:20,100
of people. And I remember when I was on the

674
00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:22,620
roof, too, going, wow, that's going to be really interesting

675
00:38:22,620 --> 00:38:24,830
to watch them repair this because it's so high up

676
00:38:24,830 --> 00:38:27,240
and it's right there. It's my view. You know, I

677
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:30,260
see it constantly. And while I was in the apartment,

678
00:38:30,260 --> 00:38:32,910
a second plane hit. And that's when I knew we

679
00:38:32,910 --> 00:38:35,600
were under attack. Once I saw that on the news

680
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,400
and it coming in, so I told my girlfriend, I

681
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,730
was like, let's get the dog. And get out of

682
00:38:41,730 --> 00:38:45,040
here. And she was she was opening Issey Miyake's like

683
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,990
flagship store that day. It was during Fashion Week. And

684
00:38:48,990 --> 00:38:50,830
she was like, what about the store? We have the

685
00:38:50,830 --> 00:38:54,180
opening. I've been planning for weeks. I'm like, forget that.

686
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,640
We're getting out of here. So you left the city?

687
00:38:56,820 --> 00:38:58,700
You got out of the city? Yeah. So we walked.

688
00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:03,200
You and the Bin Ladens got out. That's amazing. It

689
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,400
was pretty weird because there were so many people going

690
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,300
that direction and we were going the other direction. Yeah.

691
00:39:10,300 --> 00:39:12,000
And I remember when we went on the bridge, I

692
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,380
called my business manager who lives in upstate New York,

693
00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:18,470
right outside the city. And I'm like, hey, can I

694
00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:21,600
head up there? Yeah. He's like, you're going to be

695
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,800
fine. I'm like, no, no. I want to get out

696
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,810
of here. We're being attacked. And so I said that

697
00:39:25,810 --> 00:39:29,170
on the first plane, and he was who I was

698
00:39:29,170 --> 00:39:31,880
on with when the second plane hit. And then when

699
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,400
he realized the second plane hit, he was like, all

700
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,060
right, yeah, go ahead. Come on up. And they had

701
00:39:36,060 --> 00:39:39,460
closed the bridges. We were like one of the last

702
00:39:39,460 --> 00:39:41,900
to go over the bridge going out of the base.

703
00:39:41,900 --> 00:39:44,760
the city and made it out before everything got shut

704
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,800
down. So, of course, yesterday or two days ago, the

705
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:54,460
memorial was politicized by the media and by our president,

706
00:39:54,460 --> 00:39:57,380
in fact, as well. This morning, President Trump at the

707
00:39:57,380 --> 00:39:59,980
ceremony of remembrance for the 184th.

708
00:40:00,032 --> 00:40:03,182
or who died at the Pentagon when hijacked American Airlines

709
00:40:03,182 --> 00:40:07,282
Flight 77 crashed there, put the current Iran war in

710
00:40:07,282 --> 00:40:11,662
the context of fighting global terrorism and one of its

711
00:40:11,662 --> 00:40:16,902
persistent state sponsors. The president, as if to prove that

712
00:40:16,902 --> 00:40:19,482
life goes on, will travel this weekend to Ireland for

713
00:40:19,482 --> 00:40:22,482
the Irish Gulf Open. That's where we find our Nancy

714
00:40:22,482 --> 00:40:26,012
Cordes on this day of reflection and realization that in

715
00:40:26,012 --> 00:40:29,432
the president's own words, Iran is now the third defined

716
00:40:29,432 --> 00:40:32,052
war to be waged in one manner or another in

717
00:40:32,052 --> 00:40:40,102
the shadow of 9-11. Nancy. Nancy. Major, good to be

718
00:40:40,102 --> 00:40:43,532
with you. This is a duty that every president since

719
00:40:43,532 --> 00:40:48,852
George W. Bush has carried out repeatedly on the anniversary

720
00:40:48,852 --> 00:40:53,582
of 9-11, going to the various memorials to pay tribute

721
00:40:53,582 --> 00:40:57,642
to the people who died. And today, President Trump spoke

722
00:40:57,642 --> 00:41:02,192
at the Pentagon for just under 20 minutes. minutes. He,

723
00:41:02,192 --> 00:41:05,002
by and large, stuck to the script. He said that

724
00:41:05,002 --> 00:41:07,932
it's on days like 9-11 that we learn what a

725
00:41:07,932 --> 00:41:11,362
country is truly made of. And he made the point

726
00:41:11,362 --> 00:41:15,452
that you just mentioned, tying his war with Iran to

727
00:41:15,452 --> 00:41:20,582
the larger war on terror that was waged after 9-11.

728
00:41:20,582 --> 00:41:24,872
Take a listen. We salute the service members working right

729
00:41:24,872 --> 00:41:29,112
now to ensure the world's number one sponsor of terror,

730
00:41:30,372 --> 00:41:37,192
the Islamic Republic of Iran, will never ever have a

731
00:41:37,192 --> 00:41:45,742
nuclear weapon. The ultimate victory over the... Perpetrators will not

732
00:41:45,742 --> 00:41:50,552
be found on a foreign battlefield. It's right here in

733
00:41:50,552 --> 00:41:55,382
the hearts of families. This was the second year in

734
00:41:55,382 --> 00:41:58,362
a row that President Trump, a native New Yorker, chose

735
00:41:58,362 --> 00:42:01,952
to commemorate this solemn day at the Pentagon and not

736
00:42:01,952 --> 00:42:05,622
at Ground Zero with the other living presidents. I am

737
00:42:05,622 --> 00:42:11,122
just flabbergasted why our president makes this comparison because it

738
00:42:11,122 --> 00:42:15,832
is exactly. Because of the war on terror that we

739
00:42:15,832 --> 00:42:19,242
got into Iraq and later into Afghanistan. And he's helping

740
00:42:19,242 --> 00:42:22,212
people make that connection, which is probably one of the

741
00:42:22,212 --> 00:42:25,402
biggest reasons why people are mad at him. It's it's

742
00:42:25,402 --> 00:42:29,992
it's flabbergasting to me. Well, I think it's part of

743
00:42:29,992 --> 00:42:32,812
his way of justifying the war because it's going on

744
00:42:32,812 --> 00:42:36,932
longer than what he had hoped or planned. But I

745
00:42:36,932 --> 00:42:40,742
also, you know, I don't disagree. Iran is a bad

746
00:42:40,742 --> 00:42:44,092
place or bad regime. The country is not and the

747
00:42:44,092 --> 00:42:48,782
people aren't. But the regime that's there definitely wants to

748
00:42:48,782 --> 00:42:52,172
do harm to us and. Anyone associated with us? Do

749
00:42:52,172 --> 00:42:54,472
you buy into the nuclear weapon thing? Because that was

750
00:42:54,472 --> 00:42:57,542
the other part of, you know, Colin Powell's holding up

751
00:42:57,542 --> 00:43:00,202
the little vial like, oh, you know, this is we

752
00:43:00,202 --> 00:43:02,812
got the yellow cake and they got weapons of mass

753
00:43:02,812 --> 00:43:06,972
destruction. I mean, I don't know if they had weapons

754
00:43:06,972 --> 00:43:10,292
of mass destruction, but they certainly were working on it.

755
00:43:10,292 --> 00:43:13,322
But how far along they were or weren't, you know,

756
00:43:13,322 --> 00:43:18,392
I don't know. I found this very interesting. ABC aired

757
00:43:18,392 --> 00:43:22,792
a speech by – One of the widows from the

758
00:43:22,792 --> 00:43:27,092
victims in the North Tower. Her name is Terry Strada.

759
00:43:27,342 --> 00:43:30,512
And she brought up something that has been a mark,

760
00:43:30,512 --> 00:43:35,142
a dark mark on our government since 9/11 2001. And

761
00:43:35,142 --> 00:43:37,562
they aired it. I thought that was interesting. 25 years

762
00:43:37,562 --> 00:43:41,272
of pent-up anger pierced the solemn recitation of names of

763
00:43:41,272 --> 00:43:46,172
9/11 victims. And my husband, Tom Strada, you are missed

764
00:43:46,172 --> 00:43:50,122
more with each year that passes. Can it be 25

765
00:43:50,122 --> 00:43:54,212
years and still we have no justice for the role

766
00:43:54,212 --> 00:43:59,312
that Saudi Arabia played in your Just feet away from

767
00:43:59,312 --> 00:44:03,082
the vice president and four former presidents, Terry Strada, whose

768
00:44:03,082 --> 00:44:05,272
husband Tom was killed on the North Tower of the

769
00:44:05,272 --> 00:44:09,242
World Trade Center, chastised the American government for failing to

770
00:44:09,242 --> 00:44:11,982
act on claims the government of Saudi Arabia had some

771
00:44:11,982 --> 00:44:17,952
connection to the 9-11 plotters. Administration after administration, including leaders

772
00:44:17,952 --> 00:44:21,171
in front of us here today. chose to protect the

773
00:44:21,171 --> 00:44:26,252
saudis instead of standing with the 9-11 families you know

774
00:44:26,252 --> 00:44:29,662
it's like okay abc way to go i didn't expect

775
00:44:29,662 --> 00:44:31,542
them to i guess i guess it was no way

776
00:44:31,542 --> 00:44:35,002
around it but they even highlighted it did you uh

777
00:44:35,002 --> 00:44:39,992
see the woman standing next to her no The woman

778
00:44:39,992 --> 00:44:42,932
next to her was clearly uncomfortable. It reminded me of

779
00:44:42,932 --> 00:44:46,362
Kanye West and Mike Myers. Oh, with the George Bush

780
00:44:46,362 --> 00:44:51,902
hates black people? Yeah. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Well... The

781
00:44:51,902 --> 00:44:54,472
thing is, that is just one of the many things

782
00:44:54,472 --> 00:44:56,842
that are so irritating about this. Actually, I'm going to

783
00:44:56,842 --> 00:44:58,742
be talking about it with Pastor Jimmy on Wednesday on

784
00:44:58,742 --> 00:45:02,492
We Get to Do This. Because, you know, this... There's

785
00:45:02,492 --> 00:45:05,452
such an un-American response in a way. It seemed like

786
00:45:05,452 --> 00:45:08,482
we were very doing the right thing. You know, within

787
00:45:08,482 --> 00:45:10,852
three weeks, we were like, let's go get them towel

788
00:45:10,852 --> 00:45:13,772
heads. You know, with the French, you know, they wouldn't

789
00:45:13,772 --> 00:45:17,552
participate. And we had freedom fries. And the whole thing

790
00:45:17,552 --> 00:45:22,332
was just... We were so manipulated during those days. But

791
00:45:22,332 --> 00:45:25,882
the thing about the Saudi Arabia, and of course, President

792
00:45:25,882 --> 00:45:28,552
Trump has made a lot of deals with Saudi Arabia.

793
00:45:29,752 --> 00:45:32,912
There's... But of course, there was a different king at

794
00:45:32,912 --> 00:45:36,532
the time, and who knows? It's not just Trump, though.

795
00:45:36,952 --> 00:45:39,232
Pretty much every president has made different deals with Saudi

796
00:45:39,232 --> 00:45:42,232
Arabia. But the Bush family had – they had like

797
00:45:42,232 --> 00:45:46,452
family ties. There was like 30 years of friendship. So

798
00:45:46,452 --> 00:45:48,832
I went into our – and no agenda archives and

799
00:45:48,832 --> 00:45:52,052
i pulled out uh... couple clips about the infamous twenty

800
00:45:52,052 --> 00:45:55,392
eight pages you know about this the twenty eight pages

801
00:45:55,392 --> 00:45:57,952
twenty eight pages of a joint congressional inquiry into the

802
00:45:57,952 --> 00:46:00,712
nine eleven attacks were classified by the george w_ bush

803
00:46:00,712 --> 00:46:04,512
administration which claim they contain information would hurt the war

804
00:46:04,512 --> 00:46:07,412
on terror But some lawmakers argue the pages reveal little

805
00:46:07,412 --> 00:46:10,692
about national security and a great deal about the government

806
00:46:10,692 --> 00:46:13,242
of Saudi Arabia's role in the attacks. They say that

807
00:46:13,242 --> 00:46:16,402
the pages tell the story of Saudi officials meeting with

808
00:46:16,402 --> 00:46:19,672
and even funding two of the 9-11 hijackers when they

809
00:46:19,672 --> 00:46:22,262
first arrived in the U.S. But only a handful of

810
00:46:22,262 --> 00:46:25,562
people have seen them, right? That's right. Right after 9-11,

811
00:46:25,562 --> 00:46:28,852
a very unusual story. usual congressional inquiry with both the

812
00:46:28,852 --> 00:46:33,672
House and the Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman convened to find

813
00:46:33,672 --> 00:46:36,892
out what had happened. And they did quite a lot

814
00:46:36,892 --> 00:46:40,872
of research. This is before the 9-11 Commission took effect.

815
00:46:40,872 --> 00:46:45,082
And they published their report in 2003, and it was

816
00:46:45,082 --> 00:46:49,982
heavily redacted, but there was one entire section, 28 pages,

817
00:46:49,982 --> 00:46:54,972
that was taken out entirely. And the Bush administration justified

818
00:46:54,972 --> 00:46:59,172
on national security grounds, but congressmen that I've spoken to

819
00:46:59,172 --> 00:47:02,332
who have read those 28 pages say it has nothing

820
00:47:02,332 --> 00:47:05,262
at all to do with national security, that the Bush

821
00:47:05,262 --> 00:47:09,922
administration and the relationship with the Saudis is implicated, and

822
00:47:09,922 --> 00:47:13,522
they also admit that it has something to do with

823
00:47:13,522 --> 00:47:18,532
the two Saudi hijackers I've talked to the 9-11 commissioners

824
00:47:18,532 --> 00:47:24,762
and Governor Tom Kaine, for instance, he's seen those 28

825
00:47:24,762 --> 00:47:27,392
pages. he thinks they ought to be released. He thinks

826
00:47:27,392 --> 00:47:31,412
not just those 28 pages. He says this is just

827
00:47:31,412 --> 00:47:34,222
a small part of a much larger story. There is

828
00:47:34,222 --> 00:47:37,832
lots of information that that joint inquiry and the 9-11

829
00:47:37,832 --> 00:47:40,702
commission turned up that still has been kept from the

830
00:47:40,702 --> 00:47:45,612
American people. For instance, their interviews with President Bush, with

831
00:47:45,622 --> 00:47:49,182
Former President Clinton with Vice President Cheney. Those still haven't

832
00:47:49,182 --> 00:47:52,472
been released. And I think after 13 years, the American

833
00:47:52,472 --> 00:47:55,512
people can afford to know the truth. Yeah, and those

834
00:47:55,512 --> 00:47:58,662
28 pages were released, I think, under one of the

835
00:47:58,662 --> 00:48:02,982
first things in President Trump's first administration. It was like,

836
00:48:02,982 --> 00:48:05,572
yeah, you know, OK, so the Saudis clearly were involved.

837
00:48:05,672 --> 00:48:08,252
They were financed. They released it on a Friday afternoon.

838
00:48:08,912 --> 00:48:10,922
You know, no one touched it. And it would be

839
00:48:10,922 --> 00:48:13,162
so healing for the. I mean, you think COVID was

840
00:48:13,162 --> 00:48:17,642
bad? I mean, that was COVID was bad. But 9-11,

841
00:48:17,642 --> 00:48:21,792
man, that really hurt our country. Just so much stuff

842
00:48:21,792 --> 00:48:26,752
that is just not explained properly. I agree. But do

843
00:48:26,752 --> 00:48:31,362
you think it would 25 years later? I mean, I

844
00:48:31,362 --> 00:48:34,752
feel like most people don't even think about it unless

845
00:48:34,752 --> 00:48:38,142
you were around at the time. So, you know, people

846
00:48:38,142 --> 00:48:41,672
that are 25 years old have no idea about it.

847
00:48:42,651 --> 00:48:45,992
Yeah, yes, but you and I still think about it.

848
00:48:46,112 --> 00:48:48,672
Maybe you don't think about it, but... No, of course.

849
00:48:49,212 --> 00:48:52,972
Every year it comes back. I'm like, oh, man. They

850
00:48:52,972 --> 00:48:56,422
just lied. It comes back, but look at everybody that's

851
00:48:56,422 --> 00:49:01,342
protesting with their Palestinian flags and going out. They're a

852
00:49:01,342 --> 00:49:05,062
lot younger. They weren't here for 9-11 or they were

853
00:49:05,062 --> 00:49:09,702
10 years old or whatever. A 10-year-old on 9-11 is

854
00:49:09,702 --> 00:49:13,912
35 years old now. I'll play just a little bit

855
00:49:13,912 --> 00:49:16,652
of one more clip about this because it's Megyn Kelly

856
00:49:16,652 --> 00:49:21,412
back when she did news. And it explains the thing

857
00:49:21,412 --> 00:49:24,812
that is most egregious about these 28 pages. Bob Graham

858
00:49:24,812 --> 00:49:27,012
is the former chairman of the Senate Select Committee on

859
00:49:27,012 --> 00:49:30,812
Intelligence and the former co-chair of the bipartisan Joint Congressional

860
00:49:30,812 --> 00:49:34,732
Inquiry into Intelligence Failures Surrounding the 9/11 Attacks. Great to

861
00:49:34,732 --> 00:49:36,822
see you, sir. Thank you for being with us here

862
00:49:36,822 --> 00:49:41,162
tonight. So you want these 28 pages released. them. What

863
00:49:41,162 --> 00:49:44,592
are you at liberty to tell us about them? Not

864
00:49:44,592 --> 00:49:49,262
much because I am still under a oath that I

865
00:49:49,262 --> 00:49:53,792
took not to disclose classified information but it has been

866
00:49:53,792 --> 00:49:59,602
said publicly that this chapter primarily relates to who financed

867
00:49:59,602 --> 00:49:59,992
9

868
00:50:00,044 --> 00:50:04,124
eleven and that it points a finger at saudi arabia

869
00:50:04,184 --> 00:50:06,294
when you look at that statement that was in the

870
00:50:06,294 --> 00:50:09,144
nine eleven report saying we found no evidence that the

871
00:50:09,144 --> 00:50:14,414
saudi government as an institution or senior saudi officials individually

872
00:50:14,414 --> 00:50:16,664
funded the organization you could drive a truck through that

873
00:50:16,664 --> 00:50:18,434
sentence there are a lot of holes in their senior

874
00:50:18,434 --> 00:50:22,684
saudi officials which doesn't rule out non senior saudi officials

875
00:50:22,684 --> 00:50:25,524
or the government as something other than acting as an

876
00:50:25,524 --> 00:50:28,644
institution And one of the things that makes this even

877
00:50:28,644 --> 00:50:32,514
more confusing is that the concept of sovereign immunity, that

878
00:50:32,514 --> 00:50:34,454
is, that the king can do no... I just love

879
00:50:34,454 --> 00:50:38,024
that, where that was the statement. No senior Saudi officials

880
00:50:38,024 --> 00:50:41,224
were involved at all or anything like that. And, you

881
00:50:41,224 --> 00:50:44,924
know, to this day... There's a large contingent that is

882
00:50:44,924 --> 00:50:48,304
still 100% convinced that Israel did it. So it is

883
00:50:48,304 --> 00:50:52,074
something that just lives on, and I just wish that

884
00:50:52,074 --> 00:50:53,564
– I mean, I know it's not going to happen,

885
00:50:53,564 --> 00:50:57,794
but to me, it's not like Occam's razor. It's like

886
00:50:57,794 --> 00:51:00,614
there was no – and as a pilot, I actually

887
00:51:00,614 --> 00:51:06,104
early on joined pilots for 9-11 Truth. Whatever flew into

888
00:51:06,104 --> 00:51:12,384
those buildings, it wasn't even well-trained commercial airline pilots. The

889
00:51:12,384 --> 00:51:18,764
maneuvers they made, the flight data from the so-called plane

890
00:51:18,764 --> 00:51:23,284
that crashed into the Pentagon. I mean, even the data

891
00:51:23,284 --> 00:51:26,854
itself shows that wherever that data came from, it was

892
00:51:26,854 --> 00:51:30,064
300 feet above the Pentagon, so it didn't go into

893
00:51:30,064 --> 00:51:32,804
the Pentagon. I mean, it's all of this stuff. And

894
00:51:32,804 --> 00:51:37,294
what was it? I mean, where's the plane debris? Where's

895
00:51:37,294 --> 00:51:42,274
the luggage? Where's anything? Where's an engine? Well, are you

896
00:51:42,274 --> 00:51:45,624
talking about the Pentagon or the World Trade Center? No,

897
00:51:45,624 --> 00:51:48,864
the Pentagon. Well, the World Trade Center, that was obviously

898
00:51:48,864 --> 00:51:51,444
true because we found the passport. I mean, you could

899
00:51:51,444 --> 00:51:53,484
not have – if someone came to you with that

900
00:51:53,484 --> 00:51:56,564
script, you would have laughed at them. You just asked

901
00:51:56,564 --> 00:51:59,114
where the engine was, and I asked – the reason

902
00:51:59,114 --> 00:52:01,344
I asked about the towers is because I was there.

903
00:52:01,424 --> 00:52:03,814
There was an engine that came through. You can actually

904
00:52:03,814 --> 00:52:06,394
see it on the video. Yeah, it's a very small

905
00:52:06,394 --> 00:52:08,774
engine. It's a very small engine. It's not a small

906
00:52:08,774 --> 00:52:11,524
engine. It landed on Murray Street a block away from

907
00:52:11,524 --> 00:52:16,504
my apartment. It was a jet engine. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

908
00:52:16,954 --> 00:52:19,984
And that made it through. But if you've seen the

909
00:52:19,984 --> 00:52:25,714
planes that crash in the water, they just disintegrate. And

910
00:52:25,714 --> 00:52:29,124
they're tiny little pieces. So if you're crashing into a

911
00:52:29,124 --> 00:52:33,284
structure, you're going to disintegrate into the structure as it

912
00:52:33,284 --> 00:52:36,524
collapses on it. So I just want to – are

913
00:52:36,524 --> 00:52:40,924
you saying that or do you think that – It

914
00:52:40,924 --> 00:52:44,114
wasn't the planes that we thought that crashed into the

915
00:52:44,114 --> 00:52:47,054
Pentagon and the Trade Center or that it was different

916
00:52:47,054 --> 00:52:48,764
pilots or – I'm not so sure it was the

917
00:52:48,764 --> 00:52:52,084
planes we were told they were. That's the main thing,

918
00:52:52,084 --> 00:52:56,414
and they certainly weren't being flown by – they weren't

919
00:52:56,414 --> 00:53:01,124
being flown by pilots. Yes. It's just when they did

920
00:53:01,124 --> 00:53:04,954
the passport bit on the street, I was like, okay,

921
00:53:04,954 --> 00:53:08,904
sure. We got him. We got our man. Here's his

922
00:53:08,904 --> 00:53:12,584
passport. It fell on the street. Okay. Okay, but explain

923
00:53:12,584 --> 00:53:16,274
that to me a little bit. They found their passports.

924
00:53:16,274 --> 00:53:21,524
You think that that's bullcrap? Why? Because we found almost

925
00:53:21,524 --> 00:53:26,794
nothing. Nothing. His passport, they miraculously made it out of

926
00:53:26,794 --> 00:53:30,324
this horrific crash and then landed on the street in

927
00:53:30,324 --> 00:53:33,384
New York. It's the same as when planes crash and

928
00:53:33,384 --> 00:53:36,664
they find the teddy bear or the kid's little shoe.

929
00:53:37,364 --> 00:53:39,494
Some things do survive. I'm just going to push back

930
00:53:39,494 --> 00:53:41,744
on you. I have a piece of paper from –

931
00:53:41,744 --> 00:53:45,264
a couple pieces of paper that are burnt all around

932
00:53:45,264 --> 00:53:47,324
on the edges that were on my windowsill when I

933
00:53:47,324 --> 00:53:49,364
was finally three months later allowed to get back into

934
00:53:49,364 --> 00:53:52,754
my apartment. How did those make it from – the

935
00:53:52,754 --> 00:53:55,224
World Trade Center all the way over to my windowsill.

936
00:53:55,224 --> 00:53:59,064
But was it a passport of one of the hijackers?

937
00:53:59,244 --> 00:54:01,104
No, it wasn't a passport. It was actually from one

938
00:54:01,104 --> 00:54:03,864
of the pieces from Italian bank. And then there was

939
00:54:03,864 --> 00:54:06,514
also a piece of glass from Building 7. Well, that

940
00:54:06,514 --> 00:54:08,454
was all the financial stuff they had to get rid

941
00:54:08,454 --> 00:54:10,934
of in Building 7. That's why they had to pull

942
00:54:10,934 --> 00:54:14,634
that thing and crush everything because, you know, Rumsfeld had

943
00:54:14,634 --> 00:54:18,734
just said, well, we can't find $2.3 trillion. Anyway, that's

944
00:54:18,734 --> 00:54:22,924
personal healing I have to do. You did a lot

945
00:54:22,924 --> 00:54:25,954
of work. You put together, I don't know, you must

946
00:54:25,954 --> 00:54:28,064
have 30 clips. So I just want you to let

947
00:54:28,064 --> 00:54:30,444
loose and tell me where you want to go, brother,

948
00:54:30,444 --> 00:54:35,904
because it looks – and you – You really just

949
00:54:35,904 --> 00:54:39,534
– you titled them kind of – you obfuscated what's

950
00:54:39,534 --> 00:54:42,664
in them. So I'm ready wherever you want to go.

951
00:54:42,664 --> 00:54:44,494
I was trying to make it so you didn't –

952
00:54:44,494 --> 00:54:46,904
I thought the whole idea is that you didn't know

953
00:54:46,904 --> 00:54:49,654
what it was. No, I didn't listen to them. Yeah,

954
00:54:49,654 --> 00:54:52,454
of course. I got to tell you, I have a

955
00:54:52,454 --> 00:54:56,164
newfound respect. Again, I said this earlier, but while I

956
00:54:56,164 --> 00:54:58,904
was doing this, I felt like I needed to go

957
00:54:58,904 --> 00:55:02,584
out and mow the lawn or do something because what

958
00:55:02,584 --> 00:55:06,874
you are is you're like a filter, you're the condom

959
00:55:06,874 --> 00:55:09,854
to have to dive in and do it. I just

960
00:55:09,854 --> 00:55:13,754
found myself getting so frustrated and irritated doing it, having

961
00:55:13,754 --> 00:55:16,854
to deal with it. It's like going into hell just

962
00:55:16,854 --> 00:55:19,344
listening to these talking heads and you just start to

963
00:55:19,344 --> 00:55:21,844
really see how they're really starting to spin things and

964
00:55:21,844 --> 00:55:24,484
how they manipulate things, it was really eye-opening to me.

965
00:55:24,624 --> 00:55:28,024
You build up this odd resistance, this is what I

966
00:55:28,024 --> 00:55:32,484
found, is I can completely ingest all of this stuff

967
00:55:32,484 --> 00:55:34,684
and then I'll say to Tina, I said, oh man,

968
00:55:34,684 --> 00:55:36,104
I got some great stuff for the shows. She said,

969
00:55:36,104 --> 00:55:37,164
whoa, what do you have? I said, I don't know.

970
00:55:37,344 --> 00:55:40,914
Honestly, I don't remember because I park it. When I

971
00:55:40,914 --> 00:55:45,534
see something, I document it. I get a clip. I

972
00:55:45,534 --> 00:55:48,904
make the clips, and then I put it aside just

973
00:55:48,904 --> 00:55:52,714
for the time for the show because you're right. Otherwise,

974
00:55:52,714 --> 00:55:55,794
you get mad. I think that's the attraction of the

975
00:55:55,794 --> 00:56:00,724
show is people want to share that frustration. Well, that's

976
00:56:00,724 --> 00:56:04,524
what I realized is I had you guys to like

977
00:56:04,524 --> 00:56:08,534
distill it all down for me. And as I said,

978
00:56:08,534 --> 00:56:12,824
you're like the condom. You protect me from having to.

979
00:56:12,904 --> 00:56:15,764
go into this what i you know to get these

980
00:56:15,764 --> 00:56:18,414
clips and distill it down and bring all that to

981
00:56:18,414 --> 00:56:20,634
me you guys are like my new source i already

982
00:56:20,634 --> 00:56:22,884
see the art that scaramanga is going to make so

983
00:56:22,884 --> 00:56:27,594
thanks thanks for that visual oh the condom yeah it's

984
00:56:27,594 --> 00:56:32,374
all right so um I don't know. You want to

985
00:56:32,374 --> 00:56:34,414
– Wherever you want to go. Let's get the most

986
00:56:34,414 --> 00:56:36,854
obvious one out of the way. I have a bunch

987
00:56:36,854 --> 00:56:39,404
here for – and I didn't know anything about this.

988
00:56:39,464 --> 00:56:41,514
I didn't really care about it. My wife kept asking

989
00:56:41,514 --> 00:56:43,854
me about it if I had been paying attention to

990
00:56:43,854 --> 00:56:46,744
it, and I really wasn't. But it was the Lindsay

991
00:56:46,744 --> 00:56:51,144
Clancy trial. Oh, we can't get away from it. Yay!

992
00:56:52,384 --> 00:56:56,704
Yes. Let's start here. Let's start it up first with

993
00:56:56,704 --> 00:57:00,724
Priest. Hold on a second. Priest, here we go. Let

994
00:57:00,724 --> 00:57:05,534
me tell you, this Lindsay Clancy debacle – There is

995
00:57:05,534 --> 00:57:09,034
no universe that exists where a man would kill three

996
00:57:09,034 --> 00:57:11,224
of his children and be going to the courthouse and

997
00:57:11,224 --> 00:57:13,524
hundreds of men would show up to rally behind him.

998
00:57:13,744 --> 00:57:17,534
That world doesn't exist. But somehow there's women out there

999
00:57:17,534 --> 00:57:21,244
that think this is a good thing. So now we

1000
00:57:21,244 --> 00:57:24,574
are promoting killing children outside the womb. Is this not

1001
00:57:24,574 --> 00:57:28,444
crazy? This is crazy. Yes, I understand she was on

1002
00:57:28,444 --> 00:57:31,364
all these drugs and all the other things. Seek help.

1003
00:57:32,344 --> 00:57:37,744
You're a grown woman. This is a catastrophe that, one,

1004
00:57:37,744 --> 00:57:39,444
that this thing happened at all, and we should pray

1005
00:57:39,444 --> 00:57:41,704
for her. I think she has demons, to be honest.

1006
00:57:42,284 --> 00:57:45,804
But these women that are behind her, insanity is reigning

1007
00:57:45,804 --> 00:57:51,774
in many places. Bye. If you're dating a woman right

1008
00:57:51,774 --> 00:57:55,554
now who is a supporter of this woman who killed

1009
00:57:55,554 --> 00:57:59,724
her children, cut bait and run for your life. Because

1010
00:57:59,724 --> 00:58:01,794
one day you'll be having kids with her and she

1011
00:58:01,794 --> 00:58:06,214
thinks this is okay. I'm serious. That's a big impediment

1012
00:58:06,214 --> 00:58:12,344
for me in a marriage. You know, every single pastor

1013
00:58:12,344 --> 00:58:15,454
that is on YouTube, I call them the YTPs, the

1014
00:58:15,454 --> 00:58:18,844
YouTube pastors, had to weigh in on this. And they

1015
00:58:18,844 --> 00:58:21,974
all had similar takes. I'm like, you know, first of

1016
00:58:21,974 --> 00:58:24,994
all, why? Why is this even such a big news

1017
00:58:24,994 --> 00:58:30,074
story? And why, why? Why get that conversation? Why fan

1018
00:58:30,074 --> 00:58:34,104
the flames within your own church, your own congregation? Because

1019
00:58:34,104 --> 00:58:38,054
it's dividing men and women in a very, very destructive

1020
00:58:38,054 --> 00:58:44,764
way. uh it's dividing some men and women but i

1021
00:58:44,764 --> 00:58:49,974
think most as that priest said that you know I

1022
00:58:49,974 --> 00:58:52,664
think anybody that agrees with this woman or sides with

1023
00:58:52,664 --> 00:58:57,974
her is a huge red flag. Probably, you know, the

1024
00:58:57,974 --> 00:59:00,764
one the only thing I could think of is and

1025
00:59:00,764 --> 00:59:04,064
I see the women talking about on television and I

1026
00:59:04,064 --> 00:59:07,674
wonder if they are not overmedicated, which I think a

1027
00:59:07,674 --> 00:59:11,544
lot of women are. A lot of women are overmedicated.

1028
00:59:12,304 --> 00:59:15,604
Well, yeah, particularly the groups that you saw that that

1029
00:59:15,604 --> 00:59:18,484
are rallying behind her. You can just look at them

1030
00:59:18,484 --> 00:59:21,134
and see when we saw the jurors. It's like, yep,

1031
00:59:21,134 --> 00:59:24,584
they look and sound exactly as I expected. But that

1032
00:59:24,584 --> 00:59:32,114
leads to the next clip, Gail. uh gail yeah i

1033
00:59:32,114 --> 00:59:36,074
got gail I'm curious about the jurors themselves, because we

1034
00:59:36,074 --> 00:59:38,944
know it was nine women, three men. What was the

1035
00:59:38,944 --> 00:59:41,474
age range? What was the racial makeup? I haven't heard

1036
00:59:41,474 --> 00:59:47,864
any of that. What was it? 70-ish to 22. And

1037
00:59:47,864 --> 00:59:53,984
one person of color, and then everybody else was white.

1038
00:59:53,984 --> 00:59:59,924
Right. a lot of the jurors had children. Wonderful.

1039
01:00:00,020 --> 01:00:02,580
Was a person of color a woman or a man?

1040
01:00:02,860 --> 01:00:07,620
A man. A man. Is a holdout juror a black

1041
01:00:07,620 --> 01:00:12,160
man? Yes. A black man is a holdout juror? Yes.

1042
01:00:13,700 --> 01:00:16,230
Well, I'll have to sit with that for just a

1043
01:00:16,230 --> 01:00:20,280
second. I'm glad you got this. Tina showed this to

1044
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,540
me. I'm like, because it's the expression of Gayle King,

1045
01:00:23,540 --> 01:00:27,350
who's like... Their head implodes. A black man didn't agree

1046
01:00:27,350 --> 01:00:32,180
with every white woman in America? How can this be?

1047
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,340
This makes no sense. And of course, if you know

1048
01:00:34,340 --> 01:00:38,520
black people... Black American men, they have their heads screwed

1049
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,740
on, right? Most of them. I'm going to get to

1050
01:00:41,740 --> 01:00:44,820
that as well. I got some clips for that. Okay.

1051
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,450
So it just completely destroyed their narrative. If it was

1052
01:00:48,450 --> 01:00:49,960
a white guy, like, oh, yeah, we can go and

1053
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,140
we can rip him apart. Yeah. And then go to

1054
01:00:52,140 --> 01:00:57,100
non-practicing. Okay. Okay. The holdout juror in the Lindsey Clancy

1055
01:00:57,100 --> 01:00:59,690
trial was a black man, and I'm not going to

1056
01:00:59,690 --> 01:01:02,760
share any opinions because I'm not a person of color.

1057
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:07,260
I am a non-practicing white. I'm surprised. What? I'm a

1058
01:01:07,260 --> 01:01:11,380
non-practicing white? Oh, this is new. I love this. Adam,

1059
01:01:11,380 --> 01:01:14,050
are you not a non-practicing white? Only when I did

1060
01:01:14,050 --> 01:01:15,770
the show with Mo, and that's when I was a

1061
01:01:15,770 --> 01:01:18,460
non-practicing white. Non-practicing white. Person of color. I am a

1062
01:01:18,460 --> 01:01:22,780
non-practicing white. What does that even mean? This is great.

1063
01:01:22,900 --> 01:01:25,840
I'm a non-practicing white. Oh, man. I'm going to start

1064
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,260
using that, that I'm a non-practicing white. You know, I

1065
01:01:28,260 --> 01:01:30,680
remember the first time that I got called out for

1066
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:36,020
white privilege. It was in Austin, probably around 2012. And

1067
01:01:36,020 --> 01:01:39,480
Tina and I were having dinner at, you don't remember

1068
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,330
this because you weren't listening to the show, at the

1069
01:01:41,330 --> 01:01:47,000
artist's house, Lori Frick. And she invited over a professor

1070
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,370
from UT. So it was like a dinner party. And

1071
01:01:49,370 --> 01:01:51,880
he's actually, I liked it because he wrote a book

1072
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:56,340
about performatives. And it was fascinating. The guy's fascinating. And,

1073
01:01:56,340 --> 01:01:59,920
of course, everyone's drinking. And then also he says, well,

1074
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:03,390
obviously that's, so it came out. I'd never heard this

1075
01:02:03,390 --> 01:02:06,310
before. Well, obviously, you have white privilege. Tina is from

1076
01:02:06,310 --> 01:02:11,430
Indiana, across the tracks from Gary, Indiana. Grew up with

1077
01:02:11,430 --> 01:02:16,150
five girls in a 900-square-foot house with one bathroom. Dad

1078
01:02:16,150 --> 01:02:18,410
worked at the steel mill. I mean, you know, it's

1079
01:02:18,410 --> 01:02:20,990
like, what? White privilege. But I wish I had had

1080
01:02:20,990 --> 01:02:25,550
this phrase back then. I'm a non-practicing white. Excuse. Excuse

1081
01:02:25,550 --> 01:02:29,250
me, Professor, I'm a non-practicing white. I'm surprised. It changes

1082
01:02:29,250 --> 01:02:32,140
the landscape of the conversation a little bit. And I

1083
01:02:32,140 --> 01:02:34,240
think a lot of us were assuming that it was

1084
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:38,270
a white man. I think this is just we're we're

1085
01:02:38,270 --> 01:02:42,720
I haven't I haven't really thought about this much, but

1086
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,830
I think that we are now seeing the effects of

1087
01:02:46,830 --> 01:02:52,600
overmedicated people in our country. There's no other way to

1088
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,810
justify this. Yeah, if you could see this girl on

1089
01:02:56,810 --> 01:03:00,380
TikTok too, she's definitely on medication. But now at least

1090
01:03:00,380 --> 01:03:03,500
I have a new term that she gave us. Yes.

1091
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,240
If anybody accuses me, I'm just going to claim I'm

1092
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,640
a non-practicing white. Yes, I love it. So now they

1093
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,650
have – it's a black guy that is completely destroying

1094
01:03:10,650 --> 01:03:15,300
their narrative. But then there was another – I don't

1095
01:03:15,300 --> 01:03:16,880
know if this is true or not, but the guy

1096
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:21,930
breaks it down pretty good. Go to Crazy Eyes. Crazy

1097
01:03:21,930 --> 01:03:25,560
Eyes. Oh, I don't have Crazy Eyes. It would be

1098
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:31,920
under C. Hold on. Uh... I don't have crazy eyes.

1099
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,030
How do you not have crazy eyes? It's such an

1100
01:03:34,030 --> 01:03:38,720
old folder. Let me see. Crazy. No. No, I have.

1101
01:03:39,260 --> 01:03:42,740
It's crazy underscore eyes. No. I have all your clips

1102
01:03:42,740 --> 01:03:48,240
here. And oh, I see under how odd under 35.

1103
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,110
Sorry. Now, if you remember Crazy Eyes, the girl who

1104
01:03:51,110 --> 01:03:53,100
was smiling in the courtroom with the green dress, Brittany

1105
01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:56,300
Romano. While the trial was going on, she was describing

1106
01:03:56,300 --> 01:03:59,380
the jurors, and she describes the three male jurors to

1107
01:03:59,380 --> 01:04:01,340
us. One of them, she said, was a man with

1108
01:04:01,340 --> 01:04:03,860
a beard. Who was this talking? What is this from?

1109
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,870
It's another TikTok guy. The other one was a young

1110
01:04:06,870 --> 01:04:10,460
dude, and then there was a fabulous black man. This

1111
01:04:10,460 --> 01:04:12,860
is what she had to say. It's the young kid.

1112
01:04:13,260 --> 01:04:15,400
It's the guy with the beard and the fabulous black

1113
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,460
eyes. You really only describe a dude as fabulous if

1114
01:04:18,460 --> 01:04:21,460
he's got a little, you know, a little limp in

1115
01:04:21,460 --> 01:04:25,320
his wrist, a little twirl in his eyelash. And so

1116
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:29,300
from what I'm hearing, he... Definitely appears to have been

1117
01:04:29,300 --> 01:04:32,280
Fabulous, which kind of leads me to think that maybe

1118
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,760
he was potentially gay. I know we're not allowed to

1119
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:38,550
guess people's 55 genders or sexualities. But listen, I'm going

1120
01:04:38,550 --> 01:04:41,170
to lean on the side of Fabulous. And if Fabulous

1121
01:04:41,170 --> 01:04:43,970
is what I think it means, then it clearly wasn't

1122
01:04:43,970 --> 01:04:46,930
the young dude, right? We haven't seen the dude with

1123
01:04:46,930 --> 01:04:49,100
the beard, but we did see the young dude gave

1124
01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:51,060
him a his interview this week so we can eliminate

1125
01:04:51,060 --> 01:04:53,530
him as being the holdout juror. And now one of

1126
01:04:53,530 --> 01:04:56,100
the cackling hens has now outed that it was the

1127
01:04:56,100 --> 01:04:58,760
black man, the only black man on the jury that

1128
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:03,460
was the holdout juror. And it appears that he may

1129
01:05:03,460 --> 01:05:05,650
not only have been black, but also may have been

1130
01:05:05,650 --> 01:05:09,300
gay. Oh, no. The plot thickens. What will we do?

1131
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,900
You and I as non-practicing whites are confused. So it

1132
01:05:12,900 --> 01:05:16,620
starts to make it pretty difficult if the guy is

1133
01:05:16,620 --> 01:05:19,950
definitely gay and black. How do they take this guy

1134
01:05:19,950 --> 01:05:22,340
down? Is he in a wheelchair just to make it

1135
01:05:22,340 --> 01:05:24,850
even better? I mean, he's got to have a limp

1136
01:05:24,850 --> 01:05:29,950
or a hump. That would complete the trifecta. Well, it

1137
01:05:29,950 --> 01:05:34,010
didn't stop them and stop the press from – Starting

1138
01:05:34,010 --> 01:05:38,530
to take this guy down. So play takedown one. Breaking

1139
01:05:38,530 --> 01:05:42,000
news, the NBC10 investigators uncovering new details about the one

1140
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,720
holdout juror from the Lindsay Clancy trial. Documents and interviews

1141
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,780
with family members reveal a history of domestic violence allegations.

1142
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,610
It's a story you will only see here on NBC10

1143
01:05:52,610 --> 01:05:57,150
Boston. We also discovered... Only here on NBC Boston. Every

1144
01:05:57,150 --> 01:06:00,810
other channel in the universe. see here on NBC 10

1145
01:06:00,810 --> 01:06:05,200
Boston. We also discovered a current eviction case tied to

1146
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,460
months of not paying rent. They're basically digging through this

1147
01:06:08,460 --> 01:06:13,370
guy's dumpster. To the fabulous black man's dumpster? Yeah, they're

1148
01:06:13,370 --> 01:06:15,820
now going into his dumpster. So they found a way,

1149
01:06:15,820 --> 01:06:18,770
like, okay, we can't attack him because he's black. You

1150
01:06:18,770 --> 01:06:22,190
know, Tina told me this. She said, you know, because

1151
01:06:22,190 --> 01:06:24,190
she's my canary in the coal mine. She's so good

1152
01:06:24,190 --> 01:06:27,420
at this. She picks these things out one after another.

1153
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:29,820
She said, no, you know, now he's got some kind

1154
01:06:29,820 --> 01:06:33,220
of sketchy background. and they're digging through his trash. You're

1155
01:06:33,220 --> 01:06:37,200
right. Only see here on NBC10 Boston. We also discovered

1156
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,800
a current eviction case tied to months of not paying

1157
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:45,020
rent. And the NBC10 investigators found an active restraining order

1158
01:06:45,020 --> 01:06:48,310
against him while he was listening to the evidence in

1159
01:06:48,310 --> 01:06:51,000
the case and those details. Well, how does the jury

1160
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:55,620
selection done? That didn't... pop up in jury selection? Apparently

1161
01:06:55,620 --> 01:07:00,800
it's iffy whether or not that is- Seems- Eliminates you

1162
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,640
or not. You can imagine raise questions about the jury

1163
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:07,160
selection process and how the Plymouth County resident was picked

1164
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,640
for the high profile case that ended in a mistrial.

1165
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,740
NBC 10 investigator Ryan Cath has been digging into the

1166
01:07:12,740 --> 01:07:15,600
jurors history all week. What did you find out Ryan?

1167
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,940
Well, Glennon Placidler, we've repeatedly attempted to contact the juror

1168
01:07:18,940 --> 01:07:21,350
at the home where his landlord is currently trying to

1169
01:07:21,350 --> 01:07:24,500
evict him. We're not identifying him because he's chosen to

1170
01:07:24,500 --> 01:07:28,060
not speak publicly, and the jury list is currently impounded.

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01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,600
But we wanted to share the details that experts say

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01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,220
should have raised red flags about how he filled out

1173
01:07:33,220 --> 01:07:38,890
his juror questionnaire. Da. Okay, sir, do you have any

1174
01:07:38,890 --> 01:07:41,340
issue complying with the order that you stay away from

1175
01:07:41,340 --> 01:07:44,120
and have no contact directly or indirectly with the alleged

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01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,020
victim in this case and also that you not abuse

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01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:49,340
this person? You're listening to audio the NBC 10 investigators

1178
01:07:49,340 --> 01:07:53,310
obtained from Brockton District Court in September 2021. That's when

1179
01:07:53,310 --> 01:07:56,140
the holdout juror in the Lindsay Clancy case faced a

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01:07:56,140 --> 01:08:00,080
criminal charge for assaulting his wife. According to this police

1181
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,970
report, the juror's 13-year-old nephew called 911 after seeing his

1182
01:08:03,970 --> 01:08:06,350
uncle grab his wife by the throat and throw her

1183
01:08:06,350 --> 01:08:09,410
into a dresser. The report says the juror's mom repeatedly

1184
01:08:09,410 --> 01:08:13,130
screamed, you're evil, as police arrested him. Court records show

1185
01:08:13,130 --> 01:08:16,210
the couple divorced after the incident and the criminal charge

1186
01:08:16,210 --> 01:08:20,700
was eventually dismissed. What I'm missing in this, because obviously...

1187
01:08:20,900 --> 01:08:24,310
I mean, it's it's a tragedy, but there's so much

1188
01:08:24,310 --> 01:08:27,170
more going on in the world. You know, you may

1189
01:08:27,170 --> 01:08:29,450
have some local politics you could look at. But what

1190
01:08:29,450 --> 01:08:32,350
I'm missing is they don't have a Trump angle. They

1191
01:08:32,350 --> 01:08:36,490
can't they can't pin something on Trump. And still they're

1192
01:08:36,490 --> 01:08:39,380
running with it. It's it's surprising to me in this

1193
01:08:39,380 --> 01:08:42,899
midterm run up. Well, if it was a white guy,

1194
01:08:42,899 --> 01:08:45,540
they might have had an easier path to link it

1195
01:08:45,540 --> 01:08:49,510
to Trump. But go ahead and – We'll get through

1196
01:08:49,510 --> 01:08:51,460
this and then a couple more with the go to

1197
01:08:51,460 --> 01:08:53,570
take down three. We'll skip over two and then maybe

1198
01:08:53,570 --> 01:08:56,510
do four. The NBC 10 investigators also learned the juror

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01:08:56,510 --> 01:08:59,080
hasn't paid the monthly rent at his Plymouth County home

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01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,630
since last March, according to housing court records. As jurors

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01:09:02,630 --> 01:09:05,720
deliberated last week, the landlord secured a judgment of more

1202
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,680
than twelve thousand dollars in unpaid rent and is moving

1203
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:14,480
forward with an eviction. So what they've done is they've

1204
01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:19,430
basically doxed this guy because everything, the information that they've

1205
01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:22,760
given, anybody could start to look that up and find

1206
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:26,380
out who it is. And I think it's intentionally done.

1207
01:09:26,380 --> 01:09:29,800
Yeah. Also, did they do this to the other 11

1208
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,390
jurors or any of the other jurors that they haven't

1209
01:09:32,390 --> 01:09:35,480
spoken to today investigating? They all jumped out in front

1210
01:09:35,480 --> 01:09:38,530
of the camera right away. Like, talk to me. Not

1211
01:09:38,530 --> 01:09:41,560
all 11. No, not all 11. That I know of.

1212
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,980
So the others that were also in the jury, are

1213
01:09:43,980 --> 01:09:46,820
they digging through their trash the same as they are

1214
01:09:46,820 --> 01:09:53,750
this poor guy? Now you sound like Tina. No, no,

1215
01:09:53,750 --> 01:09:58,720
no. The Clancy trial ended with no verdict. Several jurors

1216
01:09:58,720 --> 01:09:59,980
told us how the lone holocaust

1217
01:10:00,042 --> 01:10:04,332
out refused to engage in deliberations. He would not interact

1218
01:10:04,332 --> 01:10:09,112
with us. He was very arrogant. He really did not...

1219
01:10:09,112 --> 01:10:13,782
take anything that anybody said. When the NBC10 investigators contacted

1220
01:10:13,782 --> 01:10:16,802
the jurors' family members, they said he'd been estranged since

1221
01:10:16,802 --> 01:10:19,432
the alleged incident with his nephew. None of them knew

1222
01:10:19,432 --> 01:10:22,892
of his involvement with the Clancy trial. One described him

1223
01:10:22,892 --> 01:10:25,712
as a narcissist who she believed should have never served

1224
01:10:25,712 --> 01:10:29,162
as a juror in such an important case. So it's

1225
01:10:29,162 --> 01:10:34,522
a mistrial. So, you know, okay, justice may not have

1226
01:10:34,522 --> 01:10:36,972
been served, but that's how our system works. I'm not

1227
01:10:36,972 --> 01:10:39,752
quite sure exactly what happens now. I guess they can

1228
01:10:39,752 --> 01:10:43,212
come back and try him again, try this woman again.

1229
01:10:43,312 --> 01:10:46,362
I'm not sure exactly. But it's the media that is

1230
01:10:46,362 --> 01:10:51,142
just... Using this as, you know, like the whole thing

1231
01:10:51,142 --> 01:10:55,242
is just sickening. I'm just so sick of it. Well,

1232
01:10:55,242 --> 01:10:58,532
the way they're going after this guy, I find astonishing,

1233
01:10:58,532 --> 01:11:01,662
even after, you know, Gail's head imploding when she found

1234
01:11:01,662 --> 01:11:04,552
out. But here's here's one more tick tock. I know

1235
01:11:04,552 --> 01:11:06,532
you love tick tock. No, I hate them. But thank

1236
01:11:06,532 --> 01:11:11,382
you very much. You go with the racist. So within

1237
01:11:11,382 --> 01:11:14,502
hours of us finding out that that lone juror was

1238
01:11:14,502 --> 01:11:19,382
black, NBC just released an article saying that the lone

1239
01:11:19,382 --> 01:11:24,152
juror had a history of domestic violence. Because they've interviewed

1240
01:11:24,152 --> 01:11:27,662
family members and they looked into court records. Do y'all

1241
01:11:27,662 --> 01:11:30,832
see the play? Do y'all see the play? So were

1242
01:11:30,832 --> 01:11:33,592
they going to release this prior to we knowing that

1243
01:11:33,592 --> 01:11:35,792
that man was black? And I have to ask, because

1244
01:11:35,792 --> 01:11:40,262
maybe I don't understand. In what way is releasing personal

1245
01:11:40,262 --> 01:11:44,832
information about a juror even remotely appropriate? Like, in what

1246
01:11:44,832 --> 01:11:48,142
way is it appropriate? And yet we're supposed to believe

1247
01:11:48,142 --> 01:11:52,832
that these people are not... absolutely racist. They didn't even

1248
01:11:52,832 --> 01:11:55,552
give it 24 hours the exact same day. And I

1249
01:11:55,552 --> 01:11:59,212
mean, that's a nice little written article. They couldn't wait

1250
01:11:59,212 --> 01:12:02,252
to... until we found out that that man was black

1251
01:12:02,252 --> 01:12:05,122
to now demonize him in the media in an attempt

1252
01:12:05,122 --> 01:12:07,492
to destroy that man because of the fact that he

1253
01:12:07,492 --> 01:12:10,692
stood ten toes on lindsey being guilty my question is

1254
01:12:10,692 --> 01:12:15,852
does he have a history of killing children no no

1255
01:12:15,852 --> 01:12:20,612
wow um i'm looking at your jury form and you're

1256
01:12:20,612 --> 01:12:22,032
You didn't fill out if you have a history of

1257
01:12:22,032 --> 01:12:28,012
killing children, so... Oh, my goodness. Jesus, come soon. We

1258
01:12:28,012 --> 01:12:31,632
are doomed. We are doomed. We are doomed. So, I

1259
01:12:31,632 --> 01:12:37,672
did find two others, though, of... Of the whole. There's

1260
01:12:37,672 --> 01:12:40,952
actually audio we've heard from the holdout juror before that

1261
01:12:40,952 --> 01:12:43,342
no one has discovered yet. If you play a holdout

1262
01:12:43,342 --> 01:12:46,602
one. OK, so I'm not going to be lining up,

1263
01:12:46,602 --> 01:12:51,052
taking a shot on a vaccination for something. Oh, and

1264
01:12:51,052 --> 01:12:54,422
he brings humor into the mix. Very good. That wasn't

1265
01:12:54,422 --> 01:12:57,532
clear in the first place. And then you all create

1266
01:12:57,532 --> 01:13:02,242
a shot. and miraculous time. It takes years to create

1267
01:13:02,242 --> 01:13:06,312
vaccinations. Oh, I remember this. This is the guy when

1268
01:13:06,312 --> 01:13:09,392
Fauci is talking up to him. He's on the porch.

1269
01:13:10,312 --> 01:13:12,902
Yeah, it's him. You're right. That's the guy. You know

1270
01:13:12,902 --> 01:13:16,052
how many years we're invested in this? He's definitely cut

1271
01:13:16,052 --> 01:13:19,482
from the same cloth. That's so good. About 20 years

1272
01:13:19,482 --> 01:13:21,442
of science to get us to be able to do

1273
01:13:21,442 --> 01:13:23,442
it. 20 years is not enough. And nine months is

1274
01:13:23,442 --> 01:13:26,852
definitely not enough for nobody to be taking no vaccination

1275
01:13:26,852 --> 01:13:28,832
that you all came up with. That was so good.

1276
01:13:29,052 --> 01:13:31,142
That was a fabulous black guy. That was a good

1277
01:13:31,142 --> 01:13:34,082
black guy. That was a joke. But here's some actual

1278
01:13:34,082 --> 01:13:39,712
audio from inside the jury deliberations. It's in holdout two.

1279
01:13:39,732 --> 01:13:44,472
Enough is enough. I have had it with these motherfucking

1280
01:13:44,472 --> 01:13:49,562
liberal white women in this motherfucking courthouse. You know what's

1281
01:13:49,562 --> 01:13:52,492
interesting, though? I heard it this morning on the news.

1282
01:13:52,492 --> 01:13:55,522
I haven't had time to dive into it, but now

1283
01:13:55,522 --> 01:14:00,682
there's calls for repealing the 19th Amendment over this, which

1284
01:14:00,682 --> 01:14:04,622
is giving women the right to vote. It's like, what

1285
01:14:04,622 --> 01:14:10,172
is happening? What is happening? I'll take us in a

1286
01:14:10,172 --> 01:14:13,132
different direction unless you want to continue on this disastrous

1287
01:14:13,132 --> 01:14:16,042
course you've taken the show on. I think we've covered

1288
01:14:16,042 --> 01:14:18,462
it. And could you please thank Alex very much for

1289
01:14:18,462 --> 01:14:21,932
bringing this to the forefront of the show? Really appreciate

1290
01:14:21,932 --> 01:14:24,132
it. I was supposed to bring news, and that's what

1291
01:14:24,132 --> 01:14:26,802
everybody's talking about. I know, I know, I know, I

1292
01:14:26,802 --> 01:14:32,492
know. Um, so Dana and I, you know, uh, Dana,

1293
01:14:32,492 --> 01:14:34,962
I, we, we kind of spoke for the, we had

1294
01:14:34,962 --> 01:14:38,652
spoken before you had some cockamamie idea with AI. I'm

1295
01:14:38,652 --> 01:14:42,012
like, yeah, okay. You should probably shouldn't do that. Uh,

1296
01:14:42,122 --> 01:14:45,842
And then after John passed, then we were talking and

1297
01:14:45,842 --> 01:14:48,562
you said, hey, I'm lonely. I have no one to

1298
01:14:48,562 --> 01:14:50,732
talk to when I take my gummy. And I said,

1299
01:14:50,732 --> 01:14:53,062
well, you can't call me during dinner when you're all

1300
01:14:53,062 --> 01:14:55,662
high. Yeah, we've got to figure this out. We've got

1301
01:14:55,662 --> 01:14:59,922
to have a better time. But we connected pretty well

1302
01:14:59,922 --> 01:15:03,882
on AI and the technology and work. can be done

1303
01:15:03,882 --> 01:15:06,592
with it. And I think I saw that you might

1304
01:15:06,592 --> 01:15:09,132
have some clips on this as well. Kill all humans.

1305
01:15:09,612 --> 01:15:15,192
Kill all humans. Must kill all humans. So I'll start

1306
01:15:15,192 --> 01:15:19,792
us off with... Okay. Let me see. I have three...

1307
01:15:20,412 --> 01:15:24,172
I'll play three clips, they're relatively short. The people building

1308
01:15:24,172 --> 01:15:26,652
AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by

1309
01:15:26,652 --> 01:15:29,212
the end of the decade. This is not a marketing

1310
01:15:29,212 --> 01:15:33,282
stunt. The people building AI earnestly believe it could kill

1311
01:15:33,282 --> 01:15:35,732
us all by the end of the next decade. Jacob

1312
01:15:35,732 --> 01:15:38,792
is correct here. We really do earnestly believe AI could

1313
01:15:38,792 --> 01:15:41,872
kill all humans. I personally think it is greater than

1314
01:15:41,872 --> 01:15:45,462
10% within the next decade. Jacob is correct here. We

1315
01:15:45,462 --> 01:15:48,732
really do earnestly believe AI could kill all humans. I

1316
01:15:48,732 --> 01:15:52,612
personally think it's greater than 10% within the next decade.

1317
01:15:52,992 --> 01:15:57,552
So you're predicting... That AI could very well destroy all

1318
01:15:57,552 --> 01:16:01,662
of humanity. Yeah. So that was the headline. It wasn't

1319
01:16:01,662 --> 01:16:05,982
exactly what that guy wrote, Jacob. And right on cue,

1320
01:16:05,982 --> 01:16:09,652
here come the AI boys who clearly want to put

1321
01:16:09,652 --> 01:16:13,662
a moat around their companies because we can't have Curry

1322
01:16:13,662 --> 01:16:18,172
and Brunetti running stuff at home on their own computers.

1323
01:16:18,432 --> 01:16:20,632
Oh, no. No, we can't have that. No. Now industry

1324
01:16:20,632 --> 01:16:23,692
leaders are pleading with Congress to start passing new safety

1325
01:16:23,692 --> 01:16:28,412
rules. its CEO, Sam Altman, in a Senate hearing, recommended

1326
01:16:28,412 --> 01:16:32,992
government intervention. Even the industry is pushing for safety standards.

1327
01:16:33,412 --> 01:16:36,532
We think that regulatory intervention by governments will be critical

1328
01:16:36,532 --> 01:16:39,612
to mitigate the risks of increasingly powerful models. We want

1329
01:16:39,612 --> 01:16:41,882
to be vocal about that. We want to work with

1330
01:16:41,882 --> 01:16:45,032
the government to prevent that from happening. There is no

1331
01:16:45,032 --> 01:16:49,082
immediate signed Congress will craft sweeping new AI rules as

1332
01:16:49,082 --> 01:16:52,572
European lawmakers are doing. And right on cue with only

1333
01:16:52,572 --> 01:16:56,432
48, 49 days to go. Oh, the Democrats jump on

1334
01:16:56,432 --> 01:16:59,322
it. It's all Trump and the Republicans' fault. This has

1335
01:16:59,322 --> 01:17:01,742
not been a topic where there's been a lot of

1336
01:17:01,742 --> 01:17:05,452
leadership from the United States Congress. In fact- Donald Trump

1337
01:17:05,452 --> 01:17:09,182
has been trying to block AI regulation. But the problem

1338
01:17:09,182 --> 01:17:12,942
is you've got Donald Trump over here who has taken

1339
01:17:12,942 --> 01:17:16,862
loads of AI cash, appoints people like David Sachs who

1340
01:17:16,862 --> 01:17:20,152
– I want someone that AI cash. Taken loads of

1341
01:17:20,152 --> 01:17:23,752
AI cash, appoints people like David Sachs who is just

1342
01:17:23,752 --> 01:17:27,392
the scummiest AI investor. Yeah. to basically lead all of

1343
01:17:27,392 --> 01:17:29,622
his AI policy. Seems like a nice guy. This is

1344
01:17:29,622 --> 01:17:32,942
Greg Kassar, by the way, who was a councilman in

1345
01:17:32,942 --> 01:17:37,012
Austin. I have a clip of him as well. Oh,

1346
01:17:37,012 --> 01:17:41,292
good, because this guy, he kind of ran on the

1347
01:17:41,292 --> 01:17:46,432
Latino vote, but I think he's... I gotta look him

1348
01:17:46,432 --> 01:17:50,112
up, but he's not even Latino or Latinx or Latinx

1349
01:17:50,112 --> 01:17:52,392
or whatever it is. And so when you have whistleblowers

1350
01:17:52,392 --> 01:17:55,342
saying this could be a serious national security event, usually

1351
01:17:55,342 --> 01:17:58,802
any president of any party would take that seriously. But

1352
01:17:58,802 --> 01:18:03,352
instead, you've got Republicans who lead the Congress doing nothing.

1353
01:18:03,882 --> 01:18:06,312
In fact, their main initiative is to get rid of

1354
01:18:06,312 --> 01:18:09,762
the little state laws. that we have. Well, you shouldn't

1355
01:18:09,762 --> 01:18:12,572
trust anything a politician says. You should look at what...

1356
01:18:12,572 --> 01:18:17,932
This is the big white hope of Texas, Tallarico, who's

1357
01:18:17,932 --> 01:18:21,272
running against Ken Paxton. ...politician has done. Because the best

1358
01:18:21,272 --> 01:18:25,102
indicator of future behavior is past behavior. Ken Paxton has

1359
01:18:25,102 --> 01:18:28,572
taken nearly half a million dollars linked... to the data

1360
01:18:28,572 --> 01:18:32,822
center industry. And it's why he ignored residents in Hood

1361
01:18:32,822 --> 01:18:35,372
County when they asked for his help as Attorney General

1362
01:18:35,372 --> 01:18:38,262
to pause data center construction in their community. He just

1363
01:18:38,262 --> 01:18:40,832
ghosted them. And that's because he's bought and paid for

1364
01:18:40,832 --> 01:18:44,362
by the data center industry. But with their blanket, 10-year

1365
01:18:44,362 --> 01:18:50,192
ban. On state AI regulation, Republicans are choosing a sledgehammer

1366
01:18:50,192 --> 01:18:54,582
over a scalpel. They are choosing big tech over kids,

1367
01:18:54,582 --> 01:19:00,572
families, seniors, and disadvantaged communities across this country. We cannot

1368
01:19:00,572 --> 01:19:06,582
allow this to happen. And of course, Altman... uh amadei

1369
01:19:06,582 --> 01:19:13,422
all these guys are crazy liberals crazy liberals especially amadei

1370
01:19:13,422 --> 01:19:18,212
you know he's like sam bankman freed level nut job

1371
01:19:18,212 --> 01:19:20,842
yeah and you can see it in the models you

1372
01:19:20,842 --> 01:19:24,192
know it's like uh Anything you want to use, chat

1373
01:19:24,192 --> 01:19:27,262
GPT. I mean, I don't use the chat bots because

1374
01:19:27,262 --> 01:19:29,842
that, of course, is bad and evil. But the models

1375
01:19:29,842 --> 01:19:33,872
themselves, you know, they won't let you do anything fun.

1376
01:19:34,372 --> 01:19:36,542
Like Tina said, hey, could you put 50 pounds on

1377
01:19:36,542 --> 01:19:38,632
me in this picture? Because I want to see what

1378
01:19:38,632 --> 01:19:41,272
I would look like fat. I'm like, okay. Okay. No,

1379
01:19:41,272 --> 01:19:43,502
they won't do that. Oh, no. We can't. This might

1380
01:19:43,502 --> 01:19:47,612
incur body shaming. Body shaming. But my daughter, she's got

1381
01:19:47,612 --> 01:19:50,832
Chad GPT in Europe. No problem. It works. No problem.

1382
01:19:51,822 --> 01:19:54,092
Yeah, some of the guardrails, I guess more of the

1383
01:19:54,092 --> 01:19:58,212
guardrails are off there. Yeah. But what's your opinion on

1384
01:19:58,212 --> 01:19:59,992
this, though? Do you...

1385
01:20:00,054 --> 01:20:05,324
You think it's a PSYOP? Well, it depends on what

1386
01:20:05,324 --> 01:20:09,194
piece. I mean, the first of all, there's a lot

1387
01:20:09,194 --> 01:20:13,144
of the kid coming out, Jacob Coxon. That's not a

1388
01:20:13,144 --> 01:20:17,624
side that is Manison Cooper's when he's an Anderson Cooper

1389
01:20:17,624 --> 01:20:20,424
says the guy himself has said that this is not

1390
01:20:20,424 --> 01:20:24,224
a marketing stunt. That's exactly what it was. It was

1391
01:20:24,224 --> 01:20:28,604
a marketing stunt because they get anthropic then. Well, all

1392
01:20:28,604 --> 01:20:32,604
of these companies want regulation. And you and I know

1393
01:20:32,604 --> 01:20:36,554
why, because, you know, I'm now have this wonderful guy

1394
01:20:36,554 --> 01:20:40,104
in Austin, Eric Timmer. He sent me an Asus RTX

1395
01:20:40,104 --> 01:20:47,794
DX 10 100 gigabyte, 128 gigabyte. computer. And I'm running

1396
01:20:47,794 --> 01:20:50,734
all kinds of amazing stuff on it. So I was

1397
01:20:50,734 --> 01:20:53,244
just gathering dust. So I'd send it to you. And

1398
01:20:53,244 --> 01:20:56,604
it's, I mean, it's outrageous what I can do at

1399
01:20:56,604 --> 01:21:00,704
zero cost. These guys don't want that they want. And

1400
01:21:00,704 --> 01:21:04,834
I don't think it's coincidence that Oh, yeah, well, it

1401
01:21:04,834 --> 01:21:08,134
hacked into Hugging Face. No, someone left a password, you

1402
01:21:08,134 --> 01:21:12,284
know, an API key, which is just one string of

1403
01:21:12,284 --> 01:21:14,344
letters. Yeah, they had to tell it what to do,

1404
01:21:14,344 --> 01:21:16,634
basically. It didn't just do that on its own. Yeah,

1405
01:21:16,634 --> 01:21:19,954
it wasn't hacking. But, oh, but who's the target? Hugging

1406
01:21:19,954 --> 01:21:23,084
Face, the number one enemy of these guys. These guys

1407
01:21:23,084 --> 01:21:26,304
don't want... You know, like a GitHub for AI nerds

1408
01:21:26,304 --> 01:21:29,434
like us to be toodling around and making this stuff

1409
01:21:29,434 --> 01:21:31,444
actually useful and do what we want it to do.

1410
01:21:31,744 --> 01:21:35,824
So they want regulations for every they want an FAA

1411
01:21:35,824 --> 01:21:39,204
for AI. And they are pushing for it by lying,

1412
01:21:39,204 --> 01:21:43,004
by, you know, doing stuff like, oh, this is. This

1413
01:21:43,004 --> 01:21:46,534
model is so powerful. It's so powerful. We can only

1414
01:21:46,534 --> 01:21:48,674
give it. We have to have the banks look at

1415
01:21:48,674 --> 01:21:53,024
it first. Oh, please. They said that about ChatGPT2. Yeah,

1416
01:21:53,024 --> 01:21:56,384
exactly. And that thing really sucks. That blowed. That was

1417
01:21:56,384 --> 01:22:04,044
no good. But Dana... there's a lot of things that

1418
01:22:04,044 --> 01:22:07,854
have a 10% chance of killing all humans. A lot

1419
01:22:07,854 --> 01:22:12,314
of things. Maybe like, you know, Russia and Ukraine. There's

1420
01:22:12,314 --> 01:22:16,184
a real possibility things could go wrong there. There's maybe

1421
01:22:16,184 --> 01:22:20,124
even more than 10%. So yeah, that part is a

1422
01:22:20,124 --> 01:22:22,724
sign up. And then it may, I don't know if

1423
01:22:22,724 --> 01:22:36,654
it was coordinated, but it seems... And then even Elon

1424
01:22:36,654 --> 01:22:39,334
pointed out that, yeah, there was something odd there that

1425
01:22:39,334 --> 01:22:42,004
had no activity and ended up with 100 million plus

1426
01:22:42,004 --> 01:22:45,354
views. And it was posted like 15 minutes after the

1427
01:22:45,354 --> 01:22:49,324
Wall Street Journal article report came out. And it was

1428
01:22:49,324 --> 01:22:54,424
Bernie Sanders reporting. He announced his bill, and the other

1429
01:22:54,424 --> 01:22:56,134
guy you were talking about in Austin, that bill was

1430
01:22:56,134 --> 01:22:58,764
on September 3rd, and then it was a week later.

1431
01:22:59,164 --> 01:23:02,384
This guy comes out with it. It seems just a

1432
01:23:02,384 --> 01:23:08,304
bit too... coincidental. No, that was the setup, but then

1433
01:23:08,304 --> 01:23:12,564
they immediately parlay that because this data center thing is

1434
01:23:12,564 --> 01:23:18,324
now a big issue for voters, particularly in Texas. And

1435
01:23:18,324 --> 01:23:21,784
we've got Ken Paxton, Who I do not like this

1436
01:23:21,784 --> 01:23:25,554
man's character at all. And the fact in the primaries,

1437
01:23:25,554 --> 01:23:28,324
we don't have a party primary here. Anybody can go

1438
01:23:28,324 --> 01:23:31,244
and vote. I thought Wesley Hunt would be much better

1439
01:23:31,244 --> 01:23:35,294
to go against Tallarico. And now it's like you heard

1440
01:23:35,294 --> 01:23:38,314
him. Tallarico is like, oh, he took a data center

1441
01:23:38,314 --> 01:23:42,884
money, money linked to data centers and whatever. And that

1442
01:23:42,884 --> 01:23:46,044
could sway some people, particularly because he's apparently a Christian

1443
01:23:46,044 --> 01:23:53,324
who believes God is non-binary. Yeah. And he's a Texan,

1444
01:23:53,324 --> 01:23:55,074
even though he was a vegetarian. A lot of things

1445
01:23:55,074 --> 01:23:58,104
don't make sense there. Yeah, none of that lines up.

1446
01:23:58,104 --> 01:24:00,504
But, I mean, the question is, and I think we

1447
01:24:00,504 --> 01:24:03,174
probably agree on this, was AI really going to kill

1448
01:24:03,174 --> 01:24:06,714
us? Well, no. I think bad security might kill us,

1449
01:24:06,714 --> 01:24:10,084
might kill some people, might make some things go bad,

1450
01:24:10,084 --> 01:24:13,484
but they make it so... I mean, I read the

1451
01:24:13,484 --> 01:24:18,724
report. And even the report, you know, well, all the

1452
01:24:18,724 --> 01:24:23,224
AIs, they got together and they convinced some AIs to

1453
01:24:23,224 --> 01:24:28,614
suicide themselves for the good of the cause. Like, bull

1454
01:24:28,614 --> 01:24:33,174
crap. These things, they don't live. They're not living beings,

1455
01:24:33,174 --> 01:24:39,614
right? No, I think they're not living beings, but also

1456
01:24:39,614 --> 01:24:43,454
just how if they can get as the word I'm

1457
01:24:43,454 --> 01:24:46,684
starting to hear a lot now is recursive. Oh, yeah.

1458
01:24:46,684 --> 01:24:50,954
There's a couple of words. Recursive self-improvement, which has been

1459
01:24:50,954 --> 01:24:55,204
the programmer's dream ever since I've been hanging out with.

1460
01:24:55,684 --> 01:25:00,504
computer programming engineers. Oh, yeah. Just recursive anything is always

1461
01:25:00,504 --> 01:25:02,884
cool because it's like holding a mirror in front of

1462
01:25:02,884 --> 01:25:05,654
another mirror. So like, oh, yeah, that's so good. Look

1463
01:25:05,654 --> 01:25:07,744
at that recursive, which also can blow your stuff up.

1464
01:25:07,744 --> 01:25:12,984
So, yeah, supposedly, you know, I don't think so. I

1465
01:25:12,984 --> 01:25:18,264
think that if you're doing recursive self-improvement, That's like making

1466
01:25:18,264 --> 01:25:20,024
a copy of a copy of a copy of a

1467
01:25:20,024 --> 01:25:22,744
copy, and eventually entropy sets in, and it just doesn't

1468
01:25:22,744 --> 01:25:26,294
work anymore. So I'm very skeptical of that. And then

1469
01:25:26,294 --> 01:25:29,654
the other one is, which I would love this on

1470
01:25:29,654 --> 01:25:33,684
a business card. I am the vice president of alignment.

1471
01:25:35,144 --> 01:25:38,004
Yeah. This is the new term. Yes, our models need

1472
01:25:38,004 --> 01:25:41,544
to be in alignment, which means in alignment with humans.

1473
01:25:41,544 --> 01:25:43,734
So we don't kill humans, which, of course, is not

1474
01:25:43,734 --> 01:25:47,604
human nature. We kill each other. That's what we do.

1475
01:25:49,184 --> 01:25:52,464
So, no, I mean, I have a lot of friends

1476
01:25:52,464 --> 01:25:58,644
in corporate companies. I.T. and they are I mean, they

1477
01:25:58,644 --> 01:26:02,904
are ready to get medicated. They're pulling their hair out

1478
01:26:02,904 --> 01:26:06,894
for like three main topics. One is the enterprise software

1479
01:26:06,894 --> 01:26:11,164
they're getting, which used to, you know, most enterprise software.

1480
01:26:11,524 --> 01:26:17,364
is probably outsourced to India, Bangladesh, you know, maybe to...

1481
01:26:18,214 --> 01:26:25,744
There's a couple other countries where they have India, Philippines,

1482
01:26:25,744 --> 01:26:29,824
and now those people who are like $5 an hour

1483
01:26:29,824 --> 01:26:34,254
programmers, they're now vibe coding. You know, they're on the

1484
01:26:34,254 --> 01:26:38,524
beach. Like, I can fix it for you. So big

1485
01:26:38,524 --> 01:26:42,344
corporate software is starting to be shipped with bugs and

1486
01:26:42,344 --> 01:26:45,754
all kinds of stuff is breaking. Then they have... And

1487
01:26:45,754 --> 01:26:49,964
their executives who are coming into the IT department every

1488
01:26:49,964 --> 01:26:52,444
day like, hey, how come I can't put this into

1489
01:26:52,444 --> 01:26:55,144
chat GPT and it gives me the spreadsheet? You know,

1490
01:26:55,144 --> 01:26:58,094
and it's like this kind of stuff. But they also

1491
01:26:58,094 --> 01:27:01,574
see that there's benefit to it. But it's it's such

1492
01:27:01,574 --> 01:27:04,764
a dichotomy with what people have been told that this

1493
01:27:04,764 --> 01:27:07,324
can do. and what it can actually do and the

1494
01:27:07,324 --> 01:27:10,474
mistakes that it makes. And what they're actually using it

1495
01:27:10,474 --> 01:27:13,964
for. My wife, she's an attorney, and nothing drives her

1496
01:27:13,964 --> 01:27:16,854
more crazy than her clients that are putting things into

1497
01:27:16,854 --> 01:27:19,884
ChatGPT and then just cutting and pasting that into an

1498
01:27:19,884 --> 01:27:22,294
email to her of like, well, this is what ChatGPT

1499
01:27:22,294 --> 01:27:25,174
told me. Why can't we do this? She should double

1500
01:27:25,174 --> 01:27:30,324
her rate. Double her rate. And then my sister-in-law, who's

1501
01:27:30,324 --> 01:27:33,944
a designer, interior designer, is getting the same thing from

1502
01:27:33,944 --> 01:27:36,704
her clients. And she's now told them, if you send

1503
01:27:36,704 --> 01:27:39,684
me anything from Chachi PT again, I'm firing you as

1504
01:27:39,684 --> 01:27:45,094
a client. Yeah, absolutely. Rob, the constitutional lawyer, sees that,

1505
01:27:45,094 --> 01:27:47,854
although he loves it because – you know he he

1506
01:27:47,854 --> 01:27:50,864
gets benefit out of it you know like i can

1507
01:27:50,864 --> 01:27:54,234
like anything if you know what you're doing If you're

1508
01:27:54,234 --> 01:27:58,524
a carpenter, this is kind of an interesting saw. You

1509
01:27:58,524 --> 01:28:01,894
use ChatGPT to check something like on something you already

1510
01:28:01,894 --> 01:28:03,914
know. Yes. Or to give you some information back on

1511
01:28:03,914 --> 01:28:06,504
something that you already know. Yes. So how do you

1512
01:28:06,504 --> 01:28:09,044
use it? How do you use it? I mean, besides

1513
01:28:09,044 --> 01:28:13,824
for… you know, putting surveillance systems up on your farm.

1514
01:28:14,144 --> 01:28:16,104
We're not calling it an estate. We'll just call it

1515
01:28:16,104 --> 01:28:18,664
the farm. It's a ranch. I call it a ranch.

1516
01:28:19,544 --> 01:28:21,454
Which then people are under like, well, what are you

1517
01:28:21,454 --> 01:28:24,034
ranch? I'm like, it's a horse ranch. I don't ranch

1518
01:28:24,034 --> 01:28:29,704
anything. I got some horses. Too many horses. I don't.

1519
01:28:29,704 --> 01:28:32,924
My wife does. You know, of all the problems I've

1520
01:28:32,924 --> 01:28:35,334
had in my life, too many horses has not been

1521
01:28:35,334 --> 01:28:38,274
one of them. I once had two horses. That's what

1522
01:28:38,274 --> 01:28:42,534
I had, two horses. I highly suggest that if anybody's

1523
01:28:42,534 --> 01:28:45,184
considering getting a horse or their wife or kid wants

1524
01:28:45,184 --> 01:28:46,974
to get a horse, do not do it because it's

1525
01:28:46,974 --> 01:28:50,444
literally like lighting money on fire. Not only that, but

1526
01:28:50,444 --> 01:28:57,084
they're not nice. I find horses. It depends on the

1527
01:28:57,084 --> 01:28:59,334
type of horse and if it's a Galdian or mare

1528
01:28:59,334 --> 01:29:03,074
or stud. That all varies. But all the ones we

1529
01:29:03,074 --> 01:29:07,884
have are pretty gentle. We need a book, TooManyHorses.com. That's

1530
01:29:07,884 --> 01:29:11,444
what we need. To answer your question. By Dana Brunetti.

1531
01:29:12,924 --> 01:29:17,224
I use AI to cut all these clips. Now, I

1532
01:29:17,224 --> 01:29:20,284
actually told you to do that, and you did. So

1533
01:29:20,284 --> 01:29:23,124
what did you use and how did you do it?

1534
01:29:23,454 --> 01:29:26,704
I used Grokbot, which I was going to use that

1535
01:29:26,704 --> 01:29:28,134
as the tip of the day, but I guess I'm

1536
01:29:28,134 --> 01:29:31,124
doing that now, and I have a backup, though. But

1537
01:29:31,124 --> 01:29:35,894
Grokbot, I think anybody that is just using chatbots, if

1538
01:29:35,894 --> 01:29:40,784
you're just using Claude or – ChatGPT. I think RockBot

1539
01:29:40,784 --> 01:29:45,644
is an easy, user-friendly way to kind of go over

1540
01:29:45,644 --> 01:29:48,604
to agents or bots that are actually doing more than

1541
01:29:48,604 --> 01:29:51,564
just answering back to you. So I would suggest people

1542
01:29:51,564 --> 01:29:53,864
watch a video on just how to set it up,

1543
01:29:53,864 --> 01:29:56,254
because you can set up a million different ways for

1544
01:29:56,254 --> 01:29:58,524
your own personal use. But what I did is I

1545
01:29:58,524 --> 01:29:59,924
put in a...

1546
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:05,820
Told it. I downloaded from their marketplace or whatever it

1547
01:30:05,820 --> 01:30:08,920
is, one called Eggbot, which is a bot that will

1548
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:12,010
build other bots for you. So you tell Eggbot what

1549
01:30:12,010 --> 01:30:15,090
you want that bot to do. And I've also learned

1550
01:30:15,090 --> 01:30:18,340
rather than just having one like doing everything like you

1551
01:30:18,340 --> 01:30:21,030
do a chat, you build bots specifically for what you

1552
01:30:21,030 --> 01:30:23,410
want it to do. And so I had Eggbot build

1553
01:30:23,410 --> 01:30:25,780
a bot for me. I'm saying a bot a lot.

1554
01:30:26,900 --> 01:30:30,010
I had it build a bot for me that called

1555
01:30:30,010 --> 01:30:34,240
Clips and told it what I was doing, what I

1556
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,920
was using it for. And so it set up that

1557
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,500
bot. And then so I would literally just take the

1558
01:30:39,500 --> 01:30:41,820
link from wherever the video was that was getting the

1559
01:30:41,820 --> 01:30:46,570
audio. put it into that, uh, into the clip bot,

1560
01:30:46,570 --> 01:30:49,800
it would pull all of the audio and then give

1561
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,810
me a transcript. And then I'd literally say, tighten it

1562
01:30:52,810 --> 01:30:54,900
up at the end, go from this word to that

1563
01:30:54,900 --> 01:30:57,740
word. And, and it just, and then it put it,

1564
01:30:57,740 --> 01:31:00,170
and then it gave it to me as way files.

1565
01:31:00,170 --> 01:31:02,080
You said to give it, to get them as MP3s.

1566
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,290
I said, give it to me as MP3s and whatever

1567
01:31:04,290 --> 01:31:07,340
the format you told me and then it just generated

1568
01:31:07,340 --> 01:31:09,560
them all out that way yeah you forgot to tell

1569
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,610
it i forgot to tell you to tell your your

1570
01:31:12,610 --> 01:31:15,850
egg bot to tell your your bot bot uh your

1571
01:31:15,850 --> 01:31:20,180
clip bot to normalize them it's okay because uh my

1572
01:31:20,180 --> 01:31:25,230
robot went hey You have a normalizing bot. Yes. Hey,

1573
01:31:25,230 --> 01:31:28,000
these clips from Brunetti suck. What's going on with it?

1574
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:29,970
They're all over the place. Would you like me to

1575
01:31:29,970 --> 01:31:35,100
normalize them? congratulations you're now the new co-host of the

1576
01:31:35,100 --> 01:31:38,720
no agenda show it's it's so easy you you'll feel

1577
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,260
great you'll feel great i just i just just have

1578
01:31:41,260 --> 01:31:43,520
to send me and and the the cool thing was

1579
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,840
it's you can do it from your phone because it's

1580
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:49,080
an app on your phone as well so i if

1581
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:52,350
if i was finding something on twitter or whatever where

1582
01:31:52,350 --> 01:31:56,150
and i would just copy the link and or actually

1583
01:31:56,150 --> 01:31:58,120
not even i would just share it and i'd share

1584
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:02,210
it from twitter or wherever i was and grokbot would

1585
01:32:02,210 --> 01:32:05,400
pop up and then i'd select the clip bot and

1586
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:06,940
it would go in and then it was it was

1587
01:32:06,940 --> 01:32:09,030
right there so i could do it from anywhere so

1588
01:32:09,030 --> 01:32:12,800
do you think you'll ever make movies with ai I

1589
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,660
would love to. I've talked to Scaramanga a couple times

1590
01:32:15,660 --> 01:32:22,760
about the idea. And it's ultimately, look, it reminds me

1591
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:26,060
of... When people were so against digital, when, you know,

1592
01:32:26,060 --> 01:32:29,570
digital versus film. I'll never shoot on film. I'll never,

1593
01:32:29,570 --> 01:32:33,780
I'm sorry, I'll never shoot on digital. Yeah, sure. And

1594
01:32:33,780 --> 01:32:37,280
it's like. Final Cut Pro is not a real thing.

1595
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,620
You need to be, you need white gloves and a

1596
01:32:39,620 --> 01:32:43,560
razor blade. Yeah. And it's like, if it's a tool.

1597
01:32:44,090 --> 01:32:47,270
And it works. Why not embrace it and why not

1598
01:32:47,270 --> 01:32:50,230
use it? I get if it looks like crap and

1599
01:32:50,230 --> 01:32:53,350
whatever doesn't work, then you don't use it. But if

1600
01:32:53,350 --> 01:32:55,280
it's a tool and you can make it work and

1601
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:59,200
everybody in my business, we're supposed to be storytellers. And

1602
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:02,510
if you use whatever tool you can to tell a

1603
01:33:02,510 --> 01:33:07,060
story, came in, wrote on Facebook. the sides of walls

1604
01:33:07,060 --> 01:33:10,250
with rock walls with, you know, whatever, you know, with

1605
01:33:10,250 --> 01:33:12,240
other rocks. And I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure there

1606
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,870
was a dude there went, Hey man, if you're not

1607
01:33:14,870 --> 01:33:18,080
doing your drawings in horse poop, you're not the real

1608
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:20,300
deal. You can't be doing that on the cave wall.

1609
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,300
That's quite the analogy we came up with. I'm sorry.

1610
01:33:23,300 --> 01:33:26,980
But, uh, Yeah, no, it's great. But yeah, it's I'm

1611
01:33:26,980 --> 01:33:30,930
all for AI as far in the business, which is

1612
01:33:30,930 --> 01:33:35,500
that's against the trend. But people, as you said earlier,

1613
01:33:35,500 --> 01:33:39,580
when we went to streaming, everyone was like, no, it's

1614
01:33:39,580 --> 01:33:43,050
totally good. Can't do that. And a lot of them

1615
01:33:43,050 --> 01:33:46,480
still are. And I remember when it was announced that

1616
01:33:46,480 --> 01:33:49,840
we were doing House of Cards on Netflix, people would

1617
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,510
call me and be like, you have Kevin Spacey and

1618
01:33:52,510 --> 01:33:55,760
David Fincher and a television show and you're putting it

1619
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:58,860
on the Internet. And yeah, yeah, I'm putting it on

1620
01:33:58,860 --> 01:34:04,250
the Internet. So, well, arguably, the music business did kind

1621
01:34:04,250 --> 01:34:09,940
of get killed. At least making money on music sales.

1622
01:34:11,020 --> 01:34:14,580
There's plenty of... Man, there's this... I'm not really... Go

1623
01:34:14,580 --> 01:34:17,830
ahead. Hollywood's going to get... I mean, Hollywood's kind of

1624
01:34:17,830 --> 01:34:25,910
killed itself. But it's definitely... It's always evolving. And... So

1625
01:34:25,910 --> 01:34:29,770
AI will ultimately kill it in the same way that

1626
01:34:29,770 --> 01:34:33,820
YouTube and streaming and a lot of others really took

1627
01:34:33,820 --> 01:34:36,600
a huge market share. And AI is going to do

1628
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,340
that as well. And it goes back to something I

1629
01:34:39,340 --> 01:34:43,450
was saying 20-some years ago was adapt or die. And

1630
01:34:43,450 --> 01:34:47,290
if somebody can create something and engage an audience and

1631
01:34:47,290 --> 01:34:49,710
be a storyteller and they're using AI to do it,

1632
01:34:49,710 --> 01:34:51,820
good for them. But to try to stop it just

1633
01:34:51,820 --> 01:34:54,270
because it's like, oh, I don't understand it, I don't

1634
01:34:54,270 --> 01:34:57,680
get it, that's crazy. So I found a book called.

1635
01:34:58,070 --> 01:35:00,520
which I had read a version of when I was

1636
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:03,140
a kid, like seven years old. And the book is

1637
01:35:03,140 --> 01:35:08,510
from 1849, so it's public domain. And I told my

1638
01:35:08,510 --> 01:35:12,280
bot, okay, I want you to take this story, and

1639
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:14,820
I want you to recreate it in this way. And

1640
01:35:14,820 --> 01:35:17,400
I want you to make it an audio drama. I

1641
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:21,000
got to say... First of all, the writing and just

1642
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:24,380
the, you know, it immediately knew, okay, here's your cast

1643
01:35:24,380 --> 01:35:27,620
profiles. Here's all. I'm like, well, okay. And I said,

1644
01:35:27,620 --> 01:35:30,750
all right, well, let's do some voices. You know, I

1645
01:35:30,750 --> 01:35:32,880
got all the voices here at home. I don't have

1646
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,800
to go to, I don't have to spend any money

1647
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:39,790
on it. So, you know, I selected voices. Okay. And

1648
01:35:39,790 --> 01:35:43,130
then it did backgrounds and effects. I haven't scored it

1649
01:35:43,130 --> 01:35:46,590
yet. But I'm listening to them like, this is actually

1650
01:35:46,590 --> 01:35:51,120
kind of quite good. Yeah, I've... Sorry, I didn't mean

1651
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:54,120
to cut you off. No, go ahead. I've done similar

1652
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:57,320
with – people always send me scripts, and I'm not

1653
01:35:57,320 --> 01:36:00,100
a good reader. I know that sounds crazy being a

1654
01:36:00,100 --> 01:36:02,910
film producer, but I've never in my entire life been

1655
01:36:02,910 --> 01:36:06,800
a good reader, and I have ADD or whatever, undiagnosed.

1656
01:36:07,220 --> 01:36:11,260
Oh, he's on the spectrum, sure. Welcome to the club.

1657
01:36:11,260 --> 01:36:15,360
Yeah. Exactly. Whenever I'm reading something, I can finish a

1658
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,520
whole page and not have any idea what I... what

1659
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:20,620
I read. So I have to really sit and concentrate

1660
01:36:20,620 --> 01:36:24,100
to even read a script. So I've audio books have

1661
01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:28,080
always been great for me. But with scripts, when people

1662
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:29,610
are sending them to me now, I'm dropping them to

1663
01:36:29,610 --> 01:36:31,580
AI and having AI read them and getting better with

1664
01:36:31,580 --> 01:36:34,560
that of changing voices. Oh, good. I'm going to send

1665
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:38,040
you my, my audio drama. I'll send you that. Do

1666
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:40,350
you want to talk about the other thing that you

1667
01:36:40,350 --> 01:36:46,820
sent me? Yeah, sure. Tell everybody what it is. It's

1668
01:36:46,820 --> 01:36:52,400
my memoir. Yeah. I think it's... Go ahead. Well, so...

1669
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,760
Let me see if I can position this right. So

1670
01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:00,420
I have told a lot of stories. In fact, the

1671
01:37:00,420 --> 01:37:03,860
last episode was a lot of my MTV stories, which...

1672
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,750
Unfortunately, I didn't have – just because we were with

1673
01:37:06,750 --> 01:37:10,010
the grandbaby and everything, I didn't put it together the

1674
01:37:10,010 --> 01:37:12,640
way I would have wanted to. And there was even

1675
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:14,910
a repeat of a story, and some things were cut

1676
01:37:14,910 --> 01:37:16,980
off the wrong way because I had my robot to

1677
01:37:16,980 --> 01:37:21,790
it. But this all came from previous work I'd done

1678
01:37:21,790 --> 01:37:26,900
of scanning through – you know, 1900 episodes of no

1679
01:37:26,900 --> 01:37:30,310
agenda transcripts, pulling these stories out. And it's not just

1680
01:37:30,310 --> 01:37:32,540
MTV stories, my life story. I think I've told my

1681
01:37:32,540 --> 01:37:34,750
life story in 20 years of my life has been

1682
01:37:34,750 --> 01:37:38,380
on this show. And I had a specific idea of

1683
01:37:38,380 --> 01:37:43,470
how I wanted to position this as looking back on

1684
01:37:43,470 --> 01:37:49,380
my life and I'm quite, you know, I'm 100% sure

1685
01:37:49,380 --> 01:37:53,430
that, you know, I didn't invent podcasting. You know, I

1686
01:37:53,430 --> 01:37:57,600
was used by... The same as I didn't invent streaming.

1687
01:37:57,940 --> 01:38:00,700
Well, but I think it was a God thing. And

1688
01:38:00,700 --> 01:38:03,410
because there's no other reason for me to come up

1689
01:38:03,410 --> 01:38:05,540
with this and what it and by the way, I

1690
01:38:05,540 --> 01:38:08,300
didn't know at the time, but the first people who

1691
01:38:08,300 --> 01:38:12,320
started podcasting were Christian broadcasters. They were like, this is

1692
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:15,770
great. We're sick of buying airtime on AM radio and

1693
01:38:15,770 --> 01:38:19,140
C band satellites like. We've been looking for something like

1694
01:38:19,140 --> 01:38:21,480
this. And so then I said, well, isn't that interesting?

1695
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:23,440
Maybe if I look back on my life and I

1696
01:38:23,440 --> 01:38:26,430
can see where God moved in my life, and that

1697
01:38:26,430 --> 01:38:29,460
might be an interesting way of telling my life story.

1698
01:38:29,460 --> 01:38:33,220
And then, and this is where we connected, I said,

1699
01:38:33,220 --> 01:38:36,210
I want to do this in the same vein as

1700
01:38:36,210 --> 01:38:40,159
Robert Evans, the kid stays in the It was a

1701
01:38:40,159 --> 01:38:42,319
kid says in the picture, a kid stays in the

1702
01:38:42,319 --> 01:38:45,660
picture, which is, you know, Robert Evans. And well, anyway,

1703
01:38:45,660 --> 01:38:47,640
you'll pick that up. So and I want it to

1704
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,930
be in that tone. And because it wasn't I never

1705
01:38:50,930 --> 01:38:53,710
read the book. I'd listen to the audio book of

1706
01:38:53,710 --> 01:38:57,000
Robert Evans, which is like nine hours, I think. And

1707
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:59,820
then when I saw the movie, I'm like, oh, wow.

1708
01:39:00,110 --> 01:39:02,320
What a great way to do it because it's the

1709
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:05,490
audio book with kind of Ken Burns effects and not

1710
01:39:05,490 --> 01:39:10,250
all of it, but archive footage, all with him telling

1711
01:39:10,250 --> 01:39:14,430
the story. And then there are some clips and there's

1712
01:39:14,430 --> 01:39:18,050
clippings and pictures and stuff. And so you and I

1713
01:39:18,050 --> 01:39:21,880
were talking and you said… Yeah, so The Kid Stays

1714
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:25,110
in the Picture was the reason I became a producer.

1715
01:39:25,110 --> 01:39:28,680
And when I saw that, I was like, wow, this

1716
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:32,360
is one. It's an incredible documentary. It's one of my

1717
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:36,880
favorite, favorite films and was really led me on the

1718
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:41,380
path that I took in the Hollywood and film. And

1719
01:39:41,380 --> 01:39:46,140
when I started with your book, I like this. This

1720
01:39:46,140 --> 01:39:49,130
lines right up with the same idea is what he

1721
01:39:49,130 --> 01:39:52,380
did. And the documentary has a lot of old photos.

1722
01:39:52,540 --> 01:39:54,840
And the documentary is like 20, 25 years ago, at

1723
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:58,070
least. And at the time, I think they use like

1724
01:39:58,070 --> 01:39:59,980
After Effects. It was the first time where they.

1725
01:40:00,062 --> 01:40:02,412
animated the photos in the Ken Burns kind of way,

1726
01:40:02,412 --> 01:40:04,022
but they kind of took the people out of the

1727
01:40:04,022 --> 01:40:07,592
background and had them move. But with him telling his

1728
01:40:07,592 --> 01:40:11,522
story, him narrating the story all the way through, and

1729
01:40:11,522 --> 01:40:14,552
your book, what you've done of it so far is

1730
01:40:14,552 --> 01:40:19,842
very similar to that. we have creative differences though. And

1731
01:40:19,842 --> 01:40:21,402
this is going to come to a head. So we

1732
01:40:21,402 --> 01:40:22,872
might as well do it right here on the show.

1733
01:40:22,912 --> 01:40:24,692
All right, let's get at it because you are immediately

1734
01:40:24,692 --> 01:40:27,562
like, Hey man, I think you should town tone down

1735
01:40:27,562 --> 01:40:30,312
the God thing. You know, I still do. Yeah. But

1736
01:40:30,312 --> 01:40:33,552
I'm going to go for the big Christian, uh, streaming

1737
01:40:33,552 --> 01:40:36,782
money. Okay, that's fine, and I think you should do

1738
01:40:36,782 --> 01:40:41,792
that. But not with Brunetti? No. But not with me,

1739
01:40:41,792 --> 01:40:49,472
Buster. No, I don't want it to be too heavy-handed.

1740
01:40:49,592 --> 01:40:51,962
I think you can still keep that audience and cater

1741
01:40:51,962 --> 01:40:55,762
to them. Oh, sure, sure. But – But I think

1742
01:40:55,762 --> 01:41:00,082
you'll turn some people off to it that would enjoy

1743
01:41:00,082 --> 01:41:02,862
it, but they'll just kind of – I think you've

1744
01:41:02,862 --> 01:41:05,322
got to do a little slower burn on it to

1745
01:41:05,322 --> 01:41:07,812
get in. I'm not saying to remove it, but I

1746
01:41:07,812 --> 01:41:10,382
just won't go as heavy on it. Part of the

1747
01:41:10,382 --> 01:41:14,492
mission of the book is to get the Christ-curious into

1748
01:41:14,492 --> 01:41:19,352
the kingdom. Okay, well, then if you want to accomplish

1749
01:41:19,352 --> 01:41:23,822
that, you can't shut them out right off. No, no,

1750
01:41:23,822 --> 01:41:26,652
no, no, no. We'll start right away with sex, drugs,

1751
01:41:26,652 --> 01:41:32,192
and rock and roll. There you go. Obviously, obviously. All

1752
01:41:32,192 --> 01:41:37,752
right, well, we'll do our notes session another time. We

1753
01:41:37,752 --> 01:41:41,232
could have finally given John his bit part. That's the

1754
01:41:41,232 --> 01:41:43,562
only thing that bugs me. Hey, we're going to do

1755
01:41:43,562 --> 01:41:46,802
it in AI. We're going to put John in there

1756
01:41:46,802 --> 01:41:50,272
in AI. I said to you the other day, I

1757
01:41:50,272 --> 01:41:52,352
said, we could probably do this whole movie in AI.

1758
01:41:53,072 --> 01:41:56,792
We could. But then you really could. The only thing

1759
01:41:56,792 --> 01:41:59,422
that we couldn't AI is we need your narration if

1760
01:41:59,422 --> 01:42:01,702
we did it that way. No, of course, I'm going

1761
01:42:01,702 --> 01:42:05,182
to narrate myself. Well, then I mean, or otherwise I'll

1762
01:42:05,182 --> 01:42:08,632
sample you and throw it in 11 labs. And no,

1763
01:42:08,632 --> 01:42:12,252
you know what? I'm kidding. I've tried. But I've tried

1764
01:42:12,252 --> 01:42:15,972
that so many times, you know. A number of people

1765
01:42:15,972 --> 01:42:20,852
have tried to do a Dvorak 11 Labs voice. Oh,

1766
01:42:20,852 --> 01:42:23,402
I did. I was going to have a surprise with

1767
01:42:23,402 --> 01:42:26,362
him talking to you from beyond. It sucks. And it's

1768
01:42:26,362 --> 01:42:31,122
awful. It's all awful. It'll create something. It'll create something

1769
01:42:31,122 --> 01:42:33,902
that's doable, but it's not, John. And when I did

1770
01:42:33,902 --> 01:42:36,572
it by myself, it's not Adam. It's just not it.

1771
01:42:37,432 --> 01:42:40,412
But by the time you get your book done… And

1772
01:42:40,412 --> 01:42:43,132
we actually really get around to doing this. AI will

1773
01:42:43,132 --> 01:42:46,262
have advanced. If it hasn't killed us, it will advance

1774
01:42:46,262 --> 01:42:51,052
so much further that maybe it will work. I'm counting

1775
01:42:51,052 --> 01:42:53,642
on it. I already have. I already got the money

1776
01:42:53,642 --> 01:42:55,872
people lined. I got the studio. I got the money

1777
01:42:55,872 --> 01:42:58,072
people lined up. I mean, I just need you to

1778
01:42:58,072 --> 01:43:02,122
get drunk and pitch it to him. Yeah. I'm telling

1779
01:43:02,122 --> 01:43:04,502
you. If you have them lined up, you haven't sold

1780
01:43:04,502 --> 01:43:08,592
them yet? No, I'm taking them out to dinner. Hey,

1781
01:43:08,592 --> 01:43:10,812
hold on a second. Hold on a second. What? What?

1782
01:43:10,972 --> 01:43:14,972
Ah, Pabst Blue Ribbon, everybody. There you go. Oh, nice

1783
01:43:14,972 --> 01:43:20,172
throwback. Very good. Let's listen to Anderson Pooper here with

1784
01:43:20,172 --> 01:43:25,902
Dario. Dario from Anthropic. I just want to quote from

1785
01:43:25,902 --> 01:43:28,652
the proposal you said. It's my worry that in six

1786
01:43:28,652 --> 01:43:33,222
to... They've all signed like a letter. you know, this

1787
01:43:33,222 --> 01:43:35,132
is the funniest thing to me. So all these guys

1788
01:43:35,132 --> 01:43:38,292
are competitors and Elon's in on this too. Like, well,

1789
01:43:38,392 --> 01:43:41,152
we're all going to slow down development of AI because,

1790
01:43:41,332 --> 01:43:43,852
you know, Curry and Brunetti are trying to, you know,

1791
01:43:43,912 --> 01:43:47,872
burn Hollywood by making movies this way. And, oh yeah,

1792
01:43:47,872 --> 01:43:51,712
it's going to kill everybody. So we're good guys. We're

1793
01:43:51,712 --> 01:43:55,142
really good guys. So we, We don't want AI to

1794
01:43:55,142 --> 01:43:58,052
kill everybody, so we're going to go careful and slow

1795
01:43:58,052 --> 01:44:00,662
it down. Give us regulations. I just want to quote

1796
01:44:00,662 --> 01:44:03,592
from the proposal you said. It's my worry that in

1797
01:44:03,592 --> 01:44:06,952
six to 12 months, such a swarm could be capable

1798
01:44:06,952 --> 01:44:10,672
of taking over the entire Internet with a persistent botnet,

1799
01:44:11,092 --> 01:44:13,892
potentially causing hundreds of billions of dollars in damage, and

1800
01:44:13,892 --> 01:44:17,022
that the scale of damage... would continue to increase from

1801
01:44:17,022 --> 01:44:20,812
there if AI becomes more powerful without the necessary guardrails.

1802
01:44:21,132 --> 01:44:27,492
That's terrifying. That is why I've made this extraordinary proposal.

1803
01:44:28,132 --> 01:44:32,502
And again, I'm not a doomer about this. I think

1804
01:44:32,502 --> 01:44:36,372
this technology can be built safely. Why are you yelling?

1805
01:44:36,372 --> 01:44:40,742
And when we've looked at, you know, incidents. You know,

1806
01:44:40,742 --> 01:44:43,972
I just noticed this. Who is that talking? This is

1807
01:44:43,972 --> 01:44:48,562
the CEO of Anthropic. Dario. Yeah. He sounds like Bill

1808
01:44:48,562 --> 01:44:51,552
Gates. - A little bit, yeah. - Yeah, he's coming,

1809
01:44:51,552 --> 01:44:56,012
he's from that Bill Gates milieu. Yeah, it's interesting. -

1810
01:44:56,012 --> 01:44:59,632
That we have faced, that cases where our models haven't

1811
01:44:59,632 --> 01:45:03,192
behaved as perfectly as they could behave because i think

1812
01:45:03,192 --> 01:45:06,452
i think this you know to some extent has happened

1813
01:45:06,452 --> 01:45:09,992
to everyone we're often able to look at causes and

1814
01:45:09,992 --> 01:45:12,442
and we look and we say right there is he

1815
01:45:12,442 --> 01:45:15,842
from the pacific northwest this dario guy I wonder if

1816
01:45:15,842 --> 01:45:18,572
it's a region thing. I'll take a look. We had,

1817
01:45:18,572 --> 01:45:21,862
you know, we had this stage where we train the

1818
01:45:21,862 --> 01:45:25,392
AIs, right? And their behavior at the time that they

1819
01:45:25,392 --> 01:45:27,752
act, at the time that they do these things, is

1820
01:45:27,752 --> 01:45:31,692
shaped by their behavior while they're being trained. And when

1821
01:45:31,692 --> 01:45:36,332
we look back, what we find is... Oops, we included

1822
01:45:36,332 --> 01:45:41,672
some environments that encourage the models to cheat, that encourage

1823
01:45:41,672 --> 01:45:45,342
the models to hack out by mistake. Hack out. Come

1824
01:45:45,342 --> 01:45:48,972
on. Now, you know, now that we understand we're going

1825
01:45:48,972 --> 01:45:52,272
back, we're taking more time to make sure that he

1826
01:45:52,272 --> 01:45:55,212
also has a bit of a Jobsian thing in there.

1827
01:45:55,512 --> 01:45:57,172
- It's a little bit of, I guess it's just--

1828
01:45:57,172 --> 01:45:58,402
- Yeah, it's all the same. - It's just Silicon

1829
01:45:58,402 --> 01:46:00,512
Valley, I guess. - We always have tried to filter

1830
01:46:00,512 --> 01:46:04,142
out these bad training environments, but we're trying to do

1831
01:46:04,142 --> 01:46:07,462
an even more rigorous job of them than we have

1832
01:46:07,462 --> 01:46:09,952
in the past. And I looked at it and I

1833
01:46:09,952 --> 01:46:13,012
said, look, if we just had a little more time,

1834
01:46:13,132 --> 01:46:18,712
We could do so much of a better job here.

1835
01:46:18,832 --> 01:46:21,282
And so we're going to take the more time to

1836
01:46:21,282 --> 01:46:23,932
make sure that we don't get to the world of

1837
01:46:23,932 --> 01:46:27,372
persistent botnets, to make sure that each step we take

1838
01:46:27,372 --> 01:46:29,892
is a careful step and is a step where we

1839
01:46:29,892 --> 01:46:34,552
can... Botnets? I mean, okay. Sure, you can create a

1840
01:46:34,552 --> 01:46:39,092
botnet, but the... It all comes down to just typical

1841
01:46:39,092 --> 01:46:43,812
cyber security. It's going to make everything better, ultimately. The

1842
01:46:43,812 --> 01:46:47,002
world of persistent botnets. To make sure that each step

1843
01:46:47,002 --> 01:46:50,052
we take... A world of... In a world... Of botnets.

1844
01:46:50,272 --> 01:46:53,532
In a world with persistent botnets and women who wear

1845
01:46:53,532 --> 01:46:56,792
comfortable shoes. We're going to take the more time to

1846
01:46:56,792 --> 01:46:59,682
make sure that we don't... get to the world of

1847
01:46:59,682 --> 01:47:03,072
persistent botnets to make sure that each step we take

1848
01:47:03,072 --> 01:47:06,392
is a careful step and is a step where we

1849
01:47:06,392 --> 01:47:12,672
can seize the benefits while also mitigating these risks, making

1850
01:47:12,672 --> 01:47:16,042
the probability of something like this going wrong very, very

1851
01:47:16,042 --> 01:47:20,192
low. Yeah. Okay. And then he throws this in. Anthropic

1852
01:47:20,192 --> 01:47:25,162
accusing Chinese AI company Moonshot AI of covertly routing thousands

1853
01:47:25,162 --> 01:47:28,292
of user requests through its clawed models and passing off

1854
01:47:28,292 --> 01:47:32,152
the responses as its own. Yeah, of course. That's what

1855
01:47:32,152 --> 01:47:35,902
you do. Anthropic accused Moonshot of. Big circle jerk. Everybody

1856
01:47:35,902 --> 01:47:39,992
I know. who is developing with AI, uses, you know,

1857
01:47:40,092 --> 01:47:43,632
clawed code or whatever else to build the stuff, and

1858
01:47:43,632 --> 01:47:45,892
then they run it on something off of Hugging Face.

1859
01:47:46,012 --> 01:47:49,232
Of course! That's the way you do it! What I

1860
01:47:49,232 --> 01:47:55,912
do is I have... uh you'd like chat gpt develop

1861
01:47:55,912 --> 01:47:58,662
the architecture on something i want to build and then

1862
01:47:58,662 --> 01:48:01,102
i'll have it give me a prompt i'll say okay

1863
01:48:01,102 --> 01:48:03,412
look this has access to my mac mini there's two

1864
01:48:03,412 --> 01:48:07,072
different things give me a prompt I'll take that prompt,

1865
01:48:07,072 --> 01:48:10,552
give it to Grokbot and to Cloud Code. Wow. And

1866
01:48:10,552 --> 01:48:13,132
then I'll take those two responses and say, okay, here's

1867
01:48:13,132 --> 01:48:15,422
the two responses. Which one's the best to move forward

1868
01:48:15,422 --> 01:48:17,822
with this? So it doesn't know which one it is

1869
01:48:17,822 --> 01:48:20,952
because I feel like it might have a bias. And

1870
01:48:20,952 --> 01:48:24,072
then... It'll say, okay, this option A is the best.

1871
01:48:24,332 --> 01:48:26,662
And then I'll say, okay, that was Grokbot. And then

1872
01:48:26,662 --> 01:48:29,762
it would say something like, okay, Grokbot, we'll have it

1873
01:48:29,762 --> 01:48:31,502
build it, and then we'll use cloud code to check

1874
01:48:31,502 --> 01:48:34,212
it's worked. And so I have this whole circle jerk

1875
01:48:34,212 --> 01:48:37,712
of AI going on when I'm building something more complex.

1876
01:48:38,032 --> 01:48:41,732
Circle jerk of AI. That is a potential show title.

1877
01:48:41,732 --> 01:48:44,642
That's a show title. All right. It's a circled jerk

1878
01:48:44,642 --> 01:48:49,432
of AI. Impossible. Might be a little too crude. Maybe.

1879
01:48:49,712 --> 01:48:52,472
So you're model hopping is what you're doing. Now, you

1880
01:48:52,472 --> 01:48:59,462
have a teenage daughter. Does she use chatbots? She does

1881
01:48:59,462 --> 01:49:02,742
use chatbots. I'm debating whether or not to get her

1882
01:49:02,742 --> 01:49:07,142
using Grokbot. I probably will. Yes. Is she like talking

1883
01:49:07,142 --> 01:49:12,102
to it and asking questions about life? No, she wrote

1884
01:49:12,102 --> 01:49:17,412
a book. It's like 300 and some pages long. Yeah,

1885
01:49:17,412 --> 01:49:21,462
cool. It's just like a young romantic, you know, comedy

1886
01:49:21,462 --> 01:49:24,202
for Gen Y. And I thought it was going to

1887
01:49:24,202 --> 01:49:27,232
be like, it's my daughter. I have to read it.

1888
01:49:27,232 --> 01:49:29,592
I actually I cloned her voice because, again, I told

1889
01:49:29,592 --> 01:49:31,792
you that I, you know, I'm not good at reading.

1890
01:49:31,792 --> 01:49:36,132
And I had Speechify. I cloned her voice, so I

1891
01:49:36,132 --> 01:49:39,162
had her read the book to me via Speechify while

1892
01:49:39,162 --> 01:49:42,392
I'm working here at the ranch. And I thought it

1893
01:49:42,392 --> 01:49:44,792
was going to be – I was going to have

1894
01:49:44,792 --> 01:49:47,442
to be polite and nice about it, but she actually

1895
01:49:47,442 --> 01:49:49,932
did a really good job. And I asked her, did

1896
01:49:49,932 --> 01:49:52,792
you use AI to write it? And she said no,

1897
01:49:52,792 --> 01:49:56,242
but she has used it to check things and correct

1898
01:49:56,242 --> 01:49:59,992
things and come up with different scenarios.

1899
01:50:00,044 --> 01:50:05,074
She actually got accused – she homeschools, and she got

1900
01:50:05,074 --> 01:50:09,404
accused of using AI on a paper. And so she

1901
01:50:09,404 --> 01:50:12,134
had to have a separate meeting with a teacher. So

1902
01:50:12,134 --> 01:50:16,124
the teacher started asking her questions, thinking he would –

1903
01:50:16,124 --> 01:50:19,024
excuse me – would stump her and realized that –

1904
01:50:19,274 --> 01:50:22,404
Wait, she didn't use AI. She's just that smart. Wow.

1905
01:50:22,544 --> 01:50:24,124
She doesn't get it from me. She gets it from

1906
01:50:24,124 --> 01:50:28,034
her mother. But she is very, very smart and very

1907
01:50:28,034 --> 01:50:33,304
bright and very independent. I told you she's... And this

1908
01:50:33,304 --> 01:50:37,564
is something that you'll find interesting. She reads the Bible.

1909
01:50:37,824 --> 01:50:41,084
I'm not religious. Neither is her mom or my wife.

1910
01:50:41,244 --> 01:50:43,144
And she just kind of found it on her own.

1911
01:50:43,244 --> 01:50:47,024
And every night she's reading the Bible. And last Christmas,

1912
01:50:47,024 --> 01:50:49,634
that's one of the main gifts she wanted was a

1913
01:50:49,634 --> 01:50:53,604
leather-bound Bible that it's clearly a teenage daughter who –

1914
01:50:53,494 --> 01:50:56,034
or teenage girl has it because it's completely on the

1915
01:50:56,034 --> 01:50:58,804
sides of things written on it and drawn and all

1916
01:50:58,804 --> 01:51:02,644
the pages are all yellow highlighter highlighted yeah sure oh

1917
01:51:02,644 --> 01:51:04,944
wow i love that i love that praise the lord

1918
01:51:05,574 --> 01:51:08,364
Nice. Yeah, and like I said, I'm not religious, but

1919
01:51:08,364 --> 01:51:10,774
I think it's great that she's doing that because she's

1920
01:51:10,774 --> 01:51:14,754
very, very grounded and well-rounded. Okay, so when we talk

1921
01:51:14,754 --> 01:51:18,084
to the money people for the movie – Mm-hmm. Okay.

1922
01:51:18,324 --> 01:51:21,564
All right. Tell me what to say. Don't say I'm

1923
01:51:21,564 --> 01:51:26,774
not religious. Okay. Got it. Hey, can you edit all

1924
01:51:26,774 --> 01:51:28,714
this out afterwards? No, but I'm listening to this. Hey,

1925
01:51:28,714 --> 01:51:30,964
man. Hey, me and a lot of people are praying

1926
01:51:30,964 --> 01:51:33,164
for you. We want to win you for the kingdom.

1927
01:51:34,044 --> 01:51:36,804
Hey, listen, I know when I did the podcast with

1928
01:51:36,804 --> 01:51:39,904
Adam, I said I wasn't religious. But since then. Yeah.

1929
01:51:41,184 --> 01:51:44,824
Hey, man, you think you can stop it? You know

1930
01:51:44,824 --> 01:51:47,884
what? Some of the best stories are in that book.

1931
01:51:48,024 --> 01:51:50,464
I'm telling you. Did you go to church? Did you

1932
01:51:50,464 --> 01:51:53,044
go to church today? Yes, of course. Of course. Did

1933
01:51:53,044 --> 01:51:55,374
you pray for me? Yes, I pray for you almost

1934
01:51:55,374 --> 01:51:59,084
every day. Did you pray that hopefully I wouldn't screw

1935
01:51:59,084 --> 01:52:01,434
up the show? No, no. I only pray for one

1936
01:52:01,434 --> 01:52:03,704
thing. Please, God, don't let him mess up the show.

1937
01:52:03,704 --> 01:52:06,154
No, no. I pray for one thing. I've told you

1938
01:52:06,154 --> 01:52:09,924
this. I pray, I said, Lord, we want Dana Burnetti

1939
01:52:09,924 --> 01:52:14,904
in the kingdom because he will make such amazing movies.

1940
01:52:15,494 --> 01:52:19,594
uh about your son's story it'll be phenomenal because when

1941
01:52:19,594 --> 01:52:23,604
i there's a lot of really bad christian movies out

1942
01:52:23,604 --> 01:52:27,154
it's getting much better much much better but oh man

1943
01:52:27,154 --> 01:52:30,244
they could use they could use some help they really

1944
01:52:30,244 --> 01:52:33,864
could and like young washington did pretty well even though

1945
01:52:33,864 --> 01:52:38,244
that's not specifically a faith-based movie uh i was produced

1946
01:52:38,244 --> 01:52:40,484
i didn't see it you did tell me to watch

1947
01:52:40,484 --> 01:52:42,394
that i need to check it out yes it's uh

1948
01:52:42,394 --> 01:52:45,524
i think it's streaming now uh wonder project did that

1949
01:52:45,524 --> 01:52:49,124
but you know and there's fun people in it ben

1950
01:52:49,124 --> 01:52:53,334
kingsley kelsey grammar um that the kid who played george

1951
01:52:53,334 --> 01:52:55,854
washington scene he could be a little superstar in the

1952
01:52:55,854 --> 01:52:59,284
making But there's just – people are hungry for it.

1953
01:52:59,304 --> 01:53:01,684
They're sick and tired of what's – of all the

1954
01:53:01,684 --> 01:53:06,354
remakes and all. It's – anyway. As we've discussed, it's

1955
01:53:06,354 --> 01:53:10,124
a huge market that hasn't been serviced or properly tapped

1956
01:53:10,124 --> 01:53:15,104
precisely. Just from a business perspective, it's a – It's

1957
01:53:15,104 --> 01:53:17,694
a big, a big audience, but Hollywood doesn't seem to

1958
01:53:17,694 --> 01:53:19,964
care about that. I used to always say when you

1959
01:53:19,964 --> 01:53:21,904
fly from LA to New York and you look out

1960
01:53:21,904 --> 01:53:24,764
the window, that's who we're making movies for. And they

1961
01:53:24,764 --> 01:53:28,584
clearly have lost that. Yeah, exactly. You know, Mel Gibson,

1962
01:53:28,584 --> 01:53:33,144
I just heard an interview with him. So the. The

1963
01:53:33,144 --> 01:53:36,324
Passion of the Christ is playing again in movie theaters

1964
01:53:36,324 --> 01:53:39,444
right now for this week. And I think that thing

1965
01:53:39,444 --> 01:53:45,034
did like $650 billion, some amazing amount of money. Why

1966
01:53:45,034 --> 01:53:47,774
is that? Why is it playing in movies and theaters

1967
01:53:47,774 --> 01:53:51,864
again this week? I'm not sure why, but other than

1968
01:53:51,864 --> 01:53:55,164
for him to promote his next two movies, which will

1969
01:53:55,164 --> 01:53:58,704
be The Resurrection. It'll be two parts, two different movies.

1970
01:53:59,844 --> 01:54:01,634
So that may be – It's like a primer before

1971
01:54:01,634 --> 01:54:05,144
those? I think so. I think so. Yeah. But did

1972
01:54:05,144 --> 01:54:08,674
you see any box office? This is how disconnected I

1973
01:54:08,674 --> 01:54:10,974
am from the business. I can't tell you anything about

1974
01:54:10,974 --> 01:54:13,684
what's currently happening. Last time I went to a theater

1975
01:54:13,684 --> 01:54:16,644
was for the last film I did, Gran Turismo, which

1976
01:54:16,644 --> 01:54:19,164
John was there. Well, let's ask the book of knowledge.

1977
01:54:19,264 --> 01:54:21,454
Hold on a second. See if the book of knowledge

1978
01:54:21,454 --> 01:54:24,434
has anything for us. Book of knowledge. Do you have

1979
01:54:24,434 --> 01:54:28,124
the latest box office scores for this special week viewing

1980
01:54:28,124 --> 01:54:32,384
of Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ? All right,

1981
01:54:32,384 --> 01:54:35,774
here we go. Let's see what comes up. Oh, it

1982
01:54:35,774 --> 01:54:37,764
has to search deep. I don't know if we'll get

1983
01:54:37,764 --> 01:54:45,474
anything. Oh, wow. Oh, what? Oh, here we go. According

1984
01:54:45,474 --> 01:54:49,504
to the Book of Knowledge, Lionsgate and Fathom Entertainment have

1985
01:54:49,504 --> 01:54:53,224
brought the passion of the Christ back to theaters nationwide

1986
01:54:53,224 --> 01:54:58,344
from September 10th to 17th. Newly remastered from the original

1987
01:54:58,344 --> 01:55:02,904
camera negative in 4K resolution. Oh, digital. However, the specific

1988
01:55:02,904 --> 01:55:06,724
opening weekend box office tallies for this re-release have not

1989
01:55:06,724 --> 01:55:10,884
yet been inscribed in the scrolls with firm numbers. The

1990
01:55:10,884 --> 01:55:15,174
scrolls don't have it yet I guess Well it's in

1991
01:55:15,174 --> 01:55:17,944
the middle of its run But I'm going to say

1992
01:55:17,944 --> 01:55:20,164
it didn't do great On the first three days If

1993
01:55:20,164 --> 01:55:23,544
it was released from the 10th to the 17th Screenings

1994
01:55:23,544 --> 01:55:27,204
include an exclusive Behind the scenes peek at the resurrection

1995
01:55:27,204 --> 01:55:29,764
Of the Christ which is the new movie So that's

1996
01:55:29,764 --> 01:55:33,044
part of the hook there Ah, okay. Yeah. Got it.

1997
01:55:33,564 --> 01:55:37,144
No, I'm, but I know the Young Washington, I think

1998
01:55:37,144 --> 01:55:39,704
they made that money, that movie for $2 million. I

1999
01:55:39,704 --> 01:55:42,404
think it did $30 million in the first two weeks.

2000
01:55:42,944 --> 01:55:45,444
That's a good return. That's a great return. Are you

2001
01:55:45,444 --> 01:55:49,704
kidding me? That's fantastic. Just two more things on AI

2002
01:55:49,704 --> 01:55:52,024
that this does concern me. I'm a big fan of

2003
01:55:52,024 --> 01:55:55,384
General Scott Besson, but he seems to be buying into

2004
01:55:55,384 --> 01:55:58,724
this stuff. Secretary Besson, first, thank you for your comments.

2005
01:55:59,204 --> 01:56:02,844
One of the topics you mentioned was artificial intelligence or

2006
01:56:02,844 --> 01:56:06,624
AI. There's a lot of excitement on the topic. Yes.

2007
01:56:06,824 --> 01:56:09,624
A little bit of trepidation in some corners. I'm excited.

2008
01:56:09,964 --> 01:56:13,404
Would you comment on your views on the economic growth

2009
01:56:13,404 --> 01:56:18,234
that AI could bring us and your views on regulating

2010
01:56:18,234 --> 01:56:21,644
AI? Well, I think we're already seeing the economic growth

2011
01:56:21,644 --> 01:56:23,534
that it could bring us. I think a lot of

2012
01:56:23,534 --> 01:56:27,064
people in this room would know that every $300 billion

2013
01:56:27,064 --> 01:56:31,324
is 1% of GDP. And we are seeing that the

2014
01:56:31,324 --> 01:56:37,324
hyperscalers are going to spend at least $750 billion this

2015
01:56:37,324 --> 01:56:40,054
year. Obviously, a lot of that's imports, so it won't

2016
01:56:40,054 --> 01:56:43,724
go directly into GDP. But we are seeing the here

2017
01:56:43,724 --> 01:56:49,024
and now, whether it's in the construction jobs, in the

2018
01:56:49,024 --> 01:56:53,094
capital markets, the things that are happening. And I think

2019
01:56:53,094 --> 01:56:56,604
that we all just have to have an open mind

2020
01:56:56,604 --> 01:57:00,054
in terms of where this can take us. But I

2021
01:57:00,054 --> 01:57:06,264
remember the Internet boom or the office modernization technology boom

2022
01:57:06,264 --> 01:57:10,174
in the 90s that added about... For those of you

2023
01:57:10,174 --> 01:57:15,594
who I'm sure, like I did, read Alan Greenspan's obituaries

2024
01:57:15,594 --> 01:57:22,184
over the past... few days. There's a movie, Alan Greenspan's

2025
01:57:22,184 --> 01:57:28,904
Obituaries. He was correct. That technological boom roughly doubled productivity

2026
01:57:28,904 --> 01:57:32,414
from one and a half to three. Could we do

2027
01:57:32,414 --> 01:57:35,244
at least that? Can we do maybe more? Before I

2028
01:57:35,244 --> 01:57:38,114
play the second clip. Do you feel like this is

2029
01:57:38,114 --> 01:57:42,524
the same as the early days of the internet? Uh...

2030
01:57:42,824 --> 01:57:46,604
I mean, HTML, the web, do you feel that there's

2031
01:57:46,604 --> 01:57:52,504
an analogy there? In what way? that it eventually will

2032
01:57:52,504 --> 01:57:55,284
become something very big and very productive for the world.

2033
01:57:56,444 --> 01:58:01,984
Yeah. Here you go, 100%. 100%. You've got to say

2034
01:58:01,984 --> 01:58:06,844
it right. 100. Yes. Okay, 100%. And in terms of

2035
01:58:06,844 --> 01:58:11,264
the regulation, it is something that I think about every

2036
01:58:11,264 --> 01:58:16,354
day at Treasury because of AI, the financial system, and

2037
01:58:16,354 --> 01:58:20,854
our responsibility for responsibility of government. guiding the American economy,

2038
01:58:20,854 --> 01:58:25,614
we think about the implications, and we are trying to

2039
01:58:25,614 --> 01:58:30,354
optimize a very difficult calculus in terms of innovation and

2040
01:58:30,354 --> 01:58:34,654
safety to get the proper equilibrium to make sure that

2041
01:58:34,654 --> 01:58:38,483
we can maintain our lead. Because I will tell you,

2042
01:58:38,483 --> 01:58:41,823
President Trump asked me to give some remarks in Ebian,

2043
01:58:41,823 --> 01:58:46,444
France, to the G7 leaders about AI. And many of

2044
01:58:46,444 --> 01:58:53,204
them had talked about AI. risk, the risk to safety,

2045
01:58:53,204 --> 01:58:56,454
the risk to employment. And I think they were slightly

2046
01:58:56,454 --> 01:59:00,574
stunned when I said the biggest risk to AI is

2047
01:59:00,574 --> 01:59:02,384
China. Now I was going to stop it and ask.

2048
01:59:02,464 --> 01:59:03,594
I was going to ask you if you knew what

2049
01:59:03,594 --> 01:59:09,364
it was. I have that written down, though, in my

2050
01:59:09,364 --> 01:59:14,884
notes, that if we do all this regulation... It's we're

2051
01:59:14,884 --> 01:59:18,544
only regulating ourselves here. China's not going to abide by

2052
01:59:18,544 --> 01:59:21,544
any regulations. And so it's going to put us behind.

2053
01:59:21,844 --> 01:59:25,364
Oh, the whole the whole concept is stupid. Let me

2054
01:59:25,364 --> 01:59:28,804
ask you this. You asked me about the early days

2055
01:59:28,804 --> 01:59:33,084
of you remember the tubes? Do you think the series

2056
01:59:33,084 --> 01:59:36,184
of tubes? Yes. Yeah. Hold on. Do you... I think

2057
01:59:36,184 --> 01:59:40,104
I have the clip. Let me see. Oh, I don't

2058
01:59:40,104 --> 01:59:43,134
have it anymore. Okay. But do you think that these

2059
01:59:43,134 --> 01:59:46,444
guys, even Besson or others that are talking about this,

2060
01:59:46,444 --> 01:59:50,744
or Bernie Sanders, really understands AI in a way other

2061
01:59:50,744 --> 01:59:55,784
than just using the chatbot? Like, do they... I think

2062
01:59:55,784 --> 01:59:58,164
they're talking about just the same way that that guy

2063
01:59:58,164 --> 01:59:59,924
was with the series of tubes.

2064
02:00:00,030 --> 02:00:01,840
They didn't really understand how the internet worked, but they're

2065
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:04,270
trying to regulate it. I think that they need people

2066
02:00:04,270 --> 02:00:06,930
that if they're going to do anything or talk about

2067
02:00:06,930 --> 02:00:09,670
it, they need to fully understand it. They need to

2068
02:00:09,670 --> 02:00:12,070
get me and you in there to smack them around

2069
02:00:12,070 --> 02:00:14,770
and get them in shape. That is the last thing

2070
02:00:14,770 --> 02:00:17,130
on my list. It's the last thing on my list,

2071
02:00:17,130 --> 02:00:19,130
too. I said somebody like me and you. Not me

2072
02:00:19,130 --> 02:00:22,640
and you, but like me and you. So to me,

2073
02:00:22,640 --> 02:00:26,250
here's the part that's exactly like this. So- Silicon Valley

2074
02:00:26,250 --> 02:00:28,900
wants this to be an iPhone. That's what they want.

2075
02:00:28,900 --> 02:00:31,310
They, oh, this is the new iPhone, and it'll be

2076
02:00:31,310 --> 02:00:34,080
this item that we can sell over and over again,

2077
02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:35,990
and we get a new upgrade every year, and that's

2078
02:00:35,990 --> 02:00:39,050
what Silicon Valley wants. That's how they think. I've been

2079
02:00:39,050 --> 02:00:43,140
in that world long enough to know that that's their

2080
02:00:43,140 --> 02:00:47,280
whole M.O., It is very much like those early days

2081
02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:49,480
because and this all kind of came out of the

2082
02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:52,840
hobbyists to start with. You know, NVIDIA was they made,

2083
02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:56,310
you know, cards for gaming computers. No wonder it does

2084
02:00:56,310 --> 02:01:01,070
well with, you know, creating video and images. Yeah. And

2085
02:01:01,070 --> 02:01:03,810
video story is such a great story, too. I was

2086
02:01:03,810 --> 02:01:06,010
listening to a podcast about it. I mean, they almost

2087
02:01:06,010 --> 02:01:08,320
went out of business so many times. Oh, yeah. I

2088
02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:12,350
mean, they've been really on the ropes. And CUDA is

2089
02:01:12,350 --> 02:01:15,900
really what... You know, it's the magic that they put

2090
02:01:15,900 --> 02:01:20,530
together for their GPUs. Yeah. How many CUDAs do you

2091
02:01:20,530 --> 02:01:23,700
have? I look at your CUDA. Well, they almost killed

2092
02:01:23,700 --> 02:01:26,390
that, too. Yeah. Well, that will not be in the

2093
02:01:26,390 --> 02:01:31,800
memoirs. But the whole thing. The whole fact that the

2094
02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:35,160
stuff I'm able to do here at home without having

2095
02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:40,190
to rely on Elon or Sam or Dario, that is

2096
02:01:40,190 --> 02:01:43,820
very much like the old days of slinging HTML code

2097
02:01:43,820 --> 02:01:47,190
and putting it on a server and doing all that

2098
02:01:47,190 --> 02:01:50,670
stuff. It feels exactly the same. And it's fun and

2099
02:01:50,670 --> 02:01:55,830
it's exciting. Um, you know, somebody posted the other day,

2100
02:01:55,830 --> 02:02:00,180
um, you know, if Steve jobs had marketed, uh, the

2101
02:02:00,180 --> 02:02:04,500
iPhone, the way, uh, AI companies are marketing. Let me

2102
02:02:04,500 --> 02:02:07,930
see if I can find it. Our marketing, uh, AI,

2103
02:02:07,930 --> 02:02:11,000
there'll be a picture of him. Hold on a second.

2104
02:02:11,040 --> 02:02:14,960
I think Spurlock posted this. Let me check. Okay. um,

2105
02:02:15,870 --> 02:02:19,920
Maybe he didn't. Basically up on the screen, it's like,

2106
02:02:19,920 --> 02:02:25,580
makes you want to kill yourself, causes depression. Yeah, exactly.

2107
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:29,910
This is all marketing. And a lot of people are

2108
02:02:29,910 --> 02:02:35,070
falling for it. But it's the same thing when... I

2109
02:02:35,070 --> 02:02:41,400
wonder if I have this clip somewhere. Okay. Play the

2110
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:45,830
Kazza or whatever Sanders band. Oh, Kazza? While you look

2111
02:02:45,830 --> 02:02:49,670
for that. 20 years in prison. same as building a

2112
02:02:49,670 --> 02:02:53,400
nuclear weapon. That's the penalty that Bernie Sanders and I

2113
02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:57,900
are putting into our bill to ban artificial super intelligence.

2114
02:02:57,900 --> 02:03:01,850
Here's why. Leading thinkers and leading top scientists of the

2115
02:03:01,850 --> 02:03:05,550
world say that if AI companies are able to develop

2116
02:03:05,550 --> 02:03:09,540
artificial super intelligence, it could put the freedom and the

2117
02:03:09,540 --> 02:03:12,930
lives of millions of people at risk. If artificial super

2118
02:03:12,930 --> 02:03:18,160
intelligence is developed, it one, would be smarter and faster

2119
02:03:18,160 --> 02:03:21,960
than all of humans. Two, it could develop or have

2120
02:03:21,960 --> 02:03:25,380
access to nuclear or biochemical weapons or be able to

2121
02:03:25,380 --> 02:03:28,130
create new viruses. And three, it could-- - This guy

2122
02:03:28,130 --> 02:03:30,540
does not understand what he's talking about. - You know,

2123
02:03:30,540 --> 02:03:33,680
I'm still waiting for them to cure cancer. Yeah, this

2124
02:03:33,680 --> 02:03:36,980
was the promise cure cancer. Receive humans about being under

2125
02:03:36,980 --> 02:03:41,020
human control or even defy human commands like refuse to

2126
02:03:41,020 --> 02:03:45,010
be turned off. Now, this is how about unplug the

2127
02:03:45,010 --> 02:03:48,750
computer? Pull the power. You can pull the power down

2128
02:03:48,750 --> 02:03:52,030
like control. See one of the Terminator movies. But we're

2129
02:03:52,030 --> 02:03:55,270
seeing this start to happen in real life. life. In

2130
02:03:55,270 --> 02:03:58,100
real life, in real time. This is Greg Kassar. I

2131
02:03:58,100 --> 02:04:02,440
can't believe that he's in Congress. In July, OpenAI admitted

2132
02:04:02,440 --> 02:04:05,830
that two of its models broke out of a locked

2133
02:04:05,830 --> 02:04:09,730
down test. I mean, that is the… They broke out,

2134
02:04:09,730 --> 02:04:13,440
like they broke through the wall, like the Kool-Aid man.

2135
02:04:13,580 --> 02:04:19,350
Yes, it's the anthropomorphizing of… of computer code. It broke

2136
02:04:19,350 --> 02:04:24,180
out, hacked in, it conspired. OpenAI admitted that two of

2137
02:04:24,180 --> 02:04:27,690
its models broke out of it. You might have dated

2138
02:04:27,690 --> 02:04:30,860
two of those models. I'm not sure. Locked down test.

2139
02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:36,260
Against human orders, hacked into another Against human orders. AI

2140
02:04:36,260 --> 02:04:45,040
company. An unprecedented moment. Unprecedented. Wow. Nothing. No new guardrails

2141
02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:48,150
being passed by Congress. No new protections against this signed

2142
02:04:48,150 --> 02:04:50,660
into law by the President of the United States. So

2143
02:04:50,660 --> 02:04:54,370
we wrote a bill. It bans building AI designed to

2144
02:04:54,370 --> 02:04:59,370
surpass human intelligence or to defy human orders. And it

2145
02:04:59,370 --> 02:05:03,510
establishes a federal agency that will ensure that we're kept

2146
02:05:03,510 --> 02:05:06,620
safe, just like the federal agencies we have to keep

2147
02:05:06,620 --> 02:05:10,020
us safe from, say, nuclear weapons. And if a company

2148
02:05:10,020 --> 02:05:14,310
defies this proposed law, then we shut it down and

2149
02:05:14,310 --> 02:05:18,740
impose a real penalty. Please. Yeah, you're right. This guy

2150
02:05:18,740 --> 02:05:21,920
has no idea what he's talking about. So here's the

2151
02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:26,240
marketing. And this is what reminds me so much of

2152
02:05:26,570 --> 02:05:31,010
The old days of the web. Well, actually, first, here's

2153
02:05:31,010 --> 02:05:34,490
Sam Altman telling us that he's a good guy. They're

2154
02:05:34,490 --> 02:05:38,560
a good company. We're going to IPO invest now. Why?

2155
02:05:38,560 --> 02:05:42,240
Why? You can still get it cheap or whatever. And

2156
02:05:42,240 --> 02:05:46,030
we will always put your safety over profits. Both OpenAI

2157
02:05:46,030 --> 02:05:48,880
and Anthropic are preparing to go public in the near

2158
02:05:48,880 --> 02:05:52,510
future. With Anthropic now expected to go first, becoming a

2159
02:05:52,510 --> 02:05:57,430
public company would bring new pressure from shareholders. OpenAI CFO

2160
02:05:57,430 --> 02:06:01,710
Sarah Fryer recently told employees that the company will IPO

2161
02:06:01,710 --> 02:06:05,640
in 2027 or sooner if its business continues to inflect.

2162
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:08,860
You don't seem phased about like the implications of pausing

2163
02:06:08,860 --> 02:06:12,240
training and like it sounds like you think the business

2164
02:06:12,240 --> 02:06:14,250
will be okay. I'm sure you're still going to get

2165
02:06:14,250 --> 02:06:17,850
concerns from people. I think I've been very consistent over

2166
02:06:17,850 --> 02:06:22,780
the 10 years of OpenAI. Of more than 10 years.

2167
02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:26,060
Almost 11. Oh, almost 11. It goes to 11. Talking

2168
02:06:26,060 --> 02:06:28,210
about the risks and the upsides and the need to

2169
02:06:28,210 --> 02:06:31,390
balance those. And... I don't think we're perfect. I don't

2170
02:06:31,390 --> 02:06:32,790
think our company is perfect. I don't think our model

2171
02:06:32,790 --> 02:06:39,040
is perfect. I don't think I am perfect. I like

2172
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:43,820
him. I'm not perfect. He's as humble as me. I

2173
02:06:43,820 --> 02:06:45,670
don't think we're perfect. I don't think our company is

2174
02:06:45,670 --> 02:06:47,020
perfect. I don't think our model is perfect. I don't

2175
02:06:47,020 --> 02:06:49,230
think I am perfect. I'm not perfect. I'm close. Very

2176
02:06:49,230 --> 02:06:55,100
close, but I'm not perfect. But I think... unlike some

2177
02:06:55,100 --> 02:06:58,920
other people running various AI efforts, like I've said the

2178
02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:03,460
same thing through actions and words match. And this is

2179
02:07:03,460 --> 02:07:05,920
a moment we always talked about. And we always said

2180
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:07,840
this would, you know, we'd put this ahead of profits

2181
02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:09,770
or revenue or anything else. I still think we will

2182
02:07:09,770 --> 02:07:14,570
build a phenomenally successful company. Um, But, you know, maybe

2183
02:07:14,570 --> 02:07:16,520
we're like not the company you would have expected to

2184
02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:18,610
say, hey, we're going to slow down because we see

2185
02:07:18,610 --> 02:07:21,040
these new risks. But that is always the company we

2186
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:23,910
thought we are. Yeah. Bull crap. So that's Sam Altman's

2187
02:07:23,910 --> 02:07:27,220
version of marketing. But then there's another guy with an

2188
02:07:27,220 --> 02:07:30,480
anthropic Brock. I think it's John Brockman. I was the

2189
02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:33,970
first name and Brockman. So he's like the president or

2190
02:07:33,970 --> 02:07:37,260
whatever. It's COO. So he's up there next to Altman.

2191
02:07:38,280 --> 02:07:39,920
And the joke that John and I always used to

2192
02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:42,940
talk about, we used to that used to tell is

2193
02:07:42,940 --> 02:07:48,170
that the promise of the Internet has always been. Your

2194
02:07:48,170 --> 02:07:51,030
refrigerator will know when your milk has run out. It

2195
02:07:51,030 --> 02:07:54,200
will order it for you and automatically replace it. And

2196
02:07:54,200 --> 02:07:58,640
that still has yet to come true. So here's Brockman's

2197
02:07:58,640 --> 02:08:01,640
modern day version of what AI will mean for you.

2198
02:08:02,020 --> 02:08:04,160
While Sam Altman is known as the face of open

2199
02:08:04,160 --> 02:08:07,490
AI, co-founder and president Greg Brockman is the one who

2200
02:08:07,490 --> 02:08:12,800
oversees many of the day-to-day activities. We are looking at...

2201
02:08:12,910 --> 02:08:15,970
like transforming the entire economy. Like that's the thing that

2202
02:08:15,970 --> 02:08:18,160
I think is very hard to see from the outside,

2203
02:08:18,160 --> 02:08:19,390
right? Is it kind of feels like, hey, it's a

2204
02:08:19,390 --> 02:08:22,060
business, like, you know, we're both selling SaaS software. That's

2205
02:08:22,060 --> 02:08:23,840
not what we're doing, right? We're doing something very different.

2206
02:08:23,840 --> 02:08:27,660
We are transforming the economy to be a compute powered

2207
02:08:27,660 --> 02:08:29,860
one. And I think what an enterprise even is will

2208
02:08:29,860 --> 02:08:32,740
change. And so the question is, well, Where do you

2209
02:08:32,740 --> 02:08:35,380
start? How do you make sure that you understand every

2210
02:08:35,380 --> 02:08:38,520
segment and you're able to sell in a repeatable fashion

2211
02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:42,250
to all of them? OpenAI has boosted its enterprise sales

2212
02:08:42,250 --> 02:08:46,120
business with the introduction of ChatGPT Work, a version of

2213
02:08:46,120 --> 02:08:49,940
the popular chatbot that can carry out agentic tasks. It

2214
02:08:49,940 --> 02:08:52,510
found everything about my day, the notes, and how to

2215
02:08:52,510 --> 02:08:55,130
prepare for my next day. meetings. ChatGPT Work is a

2216
02:08:55,130 --> 02:08:57,840
text box. But this text box is way more awesome.

2217
02:08:57,840 --> 02:09:00,580
It's way more than a lot. It's way more awesome.

2218
02:09:00,580 --> 02:09:02,540
Exactly. And so where we want to be is you

2219
02:09:02,540 --> 02:09:05,430
should-- it should be simple. Users should not have to

2220
02:09:05,430 --> 02:09:07,380
think about this. You shouldn't have to think about tabs

2221
02:09:07,380 --> 02:09:09,720
or switching. And you shouldn't have model pickers. You shouldn't

2222
02:09:09,720 --> 02:09:11,740
have thinking levels. Here we go. You should have an

2223
02:09:11,740 --> 02:09:13,360
AGI. You should be able to ask it. And in

2224
02:09:13,360 --> 02:09:15,560
fact, you shouldn't even have to ask. It should proactively

2225
02:09:15,560 --> 02:09:18,450
say, hey, I noticed that your favorite band, because it

2226
02:09:18,450 --> 02:09:22,040
knows you well, is in town. Tickets went on sale.

2227
02:09:22,480 --> 02:09:24,760
I got you the tickets exactly where you want for

2228
02:09:24,760 --> 02:09:27,470
you and your family. And I only had 10 minutes

2229
02:09:27,470 --> 02:09:29,320
to do it because everything is going to go so

2230
02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:31,160
fast, so I just purchased it proactively. Hope that's okay.

2231
02:09:31,820 --> 02:09:34,480
And if you've built enough trust with the agent... So

2232
02:09:34,480 --> 02:09:36,230
you've given it permission to do that, and it kind

2233
02:09:36,230 --> 02:09:38,030
of knows that, well, these tickets are within your price

2234
02:09:38,030 --> 02:09:40,090
range, within your budget. These other ones, oh, no, no,

2235
02:09:40,090 --> 02:09:42,260
I got to get permission for that. That's the kind

2236
02:09:42,260 --> 02:09:44,680
of system that we want. So trust is the key

2237
02:09:44,680 --> 02:09:55,360
word. So the big feature of their work products… Is

2238
02:09:55,360 --> 02:09:58,160
that it will order just the right concert tickets for

2239
02:09:58,160 --> 02:09:59,980
you in the in the seats you can afford?

2240
02:10:00,032 --> 02:10:04,372
so you don't miss out on your favorite band. And

2241
02:10:04,372 --> 02:10:08,462
then say, I hope that was okay. Well, I trust

2242
02:10:08,462 --> 02:10:12,142
you. Of course it was okay. Yeah, and then you

2243
02:10:12,142 --> 02:10:14,972
always get the... Oh, my bad. I'm sorry. I was

2244
02:10:14,972 --> 02:10:18,112
freelancing. There's two things I want you to know about

2245
02:10:18,112 --> 02:10:22,752
before we finish. There's always one thing that is load-bearing

2246
02:10:22,752 --> 02:10:25,252
that you need to understand. I mean, these things are

2247
02:10:25,252 --> 02:10:29,172
so stupid. Oh, my goodness. But I saw somebody post

2248
02:10:29,172 --> 02:10:38,942
it's called AIDS, AI derangement syndrome. Oh, that's good. Meanwhile,

2249
02:10:38,942 --> 02:10:42,592
this is kind of relatively new. No one's really talking

2250
02:10:42,592 --> 02:10:44,932
about it. Let me see if I can find this.

2251
02:10:45,572 --> 02:10:54,002
Because Ukraine is heating up. Is that war still going

2252
02:10:54,002 --> 02:10:59,112
on? No. Oh, it's intensifying. Yeah. So now the Russians

2253
02:10:59,112 --> 02:11:04,202
are hitting two types of targets in, I think, in

2254
02:11:04,202 --> 02:11:09,182
Kiev. Thursday morning in Kiev, an air strike with a

2255
02:11:09,182 --> 02:11:13,852
difference. Not the weapon. There are multiple drone attacks in

2256
02:11:13,852 --> 02:11:18,582
the capital every day. But the target... By the time

2257
02:11:18,582 --> 02:11:21,352
we arrived at the fuel station, the injured had been

2258
02:11:21,352 --> 02:11:25,042
taken to a hospital and the clean-up was beginning. There

2259
02:11:25,042 --> 02:11:28,442
are many parts of Ukraine, the real front-line areas, where

2260
02:11:28,442 --> 02:11:32,022
petrol stations are a common target. There are some stretches

2261
02:11:32,022 --> 02:11:34,582
of road, like between Dnipro and Kharkiv, where there are

2262
02:11:34,582 --> 02:11:39,702
practically none left at all. This is something new and

2263
02:11:39,702 --> 02:11:43,522
it marks a new phase in Russia's air war against

2264
02:11:43,522 --> 02:11:48,912
the capital. Friday morning, Russia hit two more stations. A

2265
02:11:48,912 --> 02:11:52,262
double tap on this one. A drone followed 15 minutes

2266
02:11:52,262 --> 02:11:57,182
later by another. The second strike hit firefighters. The driver

2267
02:11:57,182 --> 02:12:01,062
of this car was also wounded. His colleagues told us

2268
02:12:01,062 --> 02:12:05,012
he later died in hospital. Oleg works at the car

2269
02:12:05,012 --> 02:12:10,082
wash across the road. I told people, get out of

2270
02:12:10,082 --> 02:12:14,192
here, because logically there could be a second strike. We'd

2271
02:12:14,192 --> 02:12:16,792
only just moved over here when it happened. I don't

2272
02:12:16,792 --> 02:12:20,152
know. This one was jet-powered. You see the shadow and

2273
02:12:20,152 --> 02:12:25,452
immediately there's an explosion. The gas stations or petrol stations

2274
02:12:25,452 --> 02:12:28,712
are being blown up. That will slow down everything in

2275
02:12:28,712 --> 02:12:32,912
Kiev. And the second target, I think, will slow down

2276
02:12:32,912 --> 02:12:37,852
diplomacy. Now on the program to Ukraine, where a Russian

2277
02:12:37,852 --> 02:12:41,932
drone has hit a train carrying hundreds of people. Two

2278
02:12:41,932 --> 02:12:44,832
crew were killed and none of the passengers, though, were

2279
02:12:44,832 --> 02:12:49,082
harmed. This in the southern region of Odessa. Let's speak

2280
02:12:49,082 --> 02:12:51,752
to Emanuel Shaz about all of this. She's a Ukraine

2281
02:12:51,752 --> 02:12:57,282
correspondent. She's currently in the northeastern city of Kharkiv. Emanuel,

2282
02:12:57,282 --> 02:12:59,622
just tell us then a little bit more about what

2283
02:12:59,622 --> 02:13:05,512
happened today. Okay. Well, indeed, this strike against Ukrainian railway,

2284
02:13:05,512 --> 02:13:09,962
against the train with passengers, have been widely reported. We've

2285
02:13:09,962 --> 02:13:14,202
seen on the images that, you know, the driver of

2286
02:13:14,202 --> 02:13:18,452
the train, as well as his assistant, died instantly as

2287
02:13:18,452 --> 02:13:23,252
the locomotive of the train crashed. was hit. And, you

2288
02:13:23,252 --> 02:13:25,932
know, we have to keep in mind that such attacks

2289
02:13:25,932 --> 02:13:30,632
actually happen daily, occur daily against the Ukrainian railway. There's

2290
02:13:30,632 --> 02:13:35,492
not only passenger trains, there's also railway stations, trucks, platforms

2291
02:13:35,492 --> 02:13:39,572
that are being hit only a few days ago. This

2292
02:13:39,572 --> 02:13:42,072
is the only way that... Her voice is so annoying.

2293
02:13:42,072 --> 02:13:43,872
I know, I had to cut her off. This is

2294
02:13:43,872 --> 02:13:48,612
the only way that politicians visit the little actor. The

2295
02:13:48,612 --> 02:13:52,162
last miles are always done by train. So now the

2296
02:13:52,162 --> 02:13:55,502
trains are being blowed up. Petrol stations are being blowed

2297
02:13:55,502 --> 02:14:00,552
up. And now the latest from Germany... Hundreds of thousands,

2298
02:14:00,552 --> 02:14:03,892
if not millions of people left Ukraine and went all

2299
02:14:03,892 --> 02:14:07,562
over Europe. And I have to say, my friends in

2300
02:14:07,562 --> 02:14:13,802
the Netherlands, they see it as a scourge because they

2301
02:14:13,802 --> 02:14:20,311
get housing, they get an allowance. Oh, really? And if

2302
02:14:20,311 --> 02:14:23,202
they have a Ukrainian license plate, they can park anywhere

2303
02:14:23,202 --> 02:14:27,292
they want, almost like a diplomatic plate. You're kidding. No.

2304
02:14:28,032 --> 02:14:30,852
No. What is the point of if they – I

2305
02:14:30,852 --> 02:14:36,332
mean, okay, I guess – all right, continue on. So

2306
02:14:36,332 --> 02:14:38,672
– So they're in the Netherlands. I mean, they're all

2307
02:14:38,672 --> 02:14:41,912
over it. In Germany. Now, the German government has said...

2308
02:14:43,082 --> 02:14:48,302
You know, Ukraine needs more men. They've run out of

2309
02:14:48,302 --> 02:14:51,312
men. So, yeah, we'll help you get the Ukrainian men

2310
02:14:51,312 --> 02:14:56,922
who are in Germany. How about that? So they're going

2311
02:14:56,922 --> 02:15:01,292
to do conscription in Germany? That's what they're saying, yeah.

2312
02:15:01,952 --> 02:15:07,472
Yeah. Can you believe it? So this is a mess.

2313
02:15:07,672 --> 02:15:11,282
You know, go to the demilitarized zone option. Just do

2314
02:15:11,282 --> 02:15:15,502
it. But the Europeans, they want this. The British. Somebody

2315
02:15:15,502 --> 02:15:19,022
wants it. Well, they want. We have nothing else. They

2316
02:15:19,022 --> 02:15:24,862
close down. They've got. OK, Germany is the engine of

2317
02:15:24,862 --> 02:15:29,532
the EU. And it was a great system. We get

2318
02:15:29,532 --> 02:15:33,412
cheap oil and gas from Russia. We build Mercedes and

2319
02:15:33,412 --> 02:15:36,362
Volkswagen and Audis, and we sell them back to the

2320
02:15:36,362 --> 02:15:39,552
Russians. and yeah it was called the the euro loop

2321
02:15:39,552 --> 02:15:42,392
and there the money was flowing and then of course

2322
02:15:42,392 --> 02:15:44,472
you know oh we we got to cut it off

2323
02:15:44,472 --> 02:15:47,302
and you've got to stop all this so that and

2324
02:15:47,302 --> 02:15:51,832
oh we because of the green new deal we blew

2325
02:15:51,832 --> 02:15:58,262
up our nuclear power stations so smart and uh And

2326
02:15:58,262 --> 02:16:02,272
all they have is war economy. And the Brits, the

2327
02:16:02,272 --> 02:16:08,832
Brits have now said, we're going to call up veterans.

2328
02:16:10,662 --> 02:16:15,472
To, you know, to be go for active duty. Well,

2329
02:16:15,472 --> 02:16:19,952
I mean, you're talking 60, 65, 70 year old guys.

2330
02:16:20,472 --> 02:16:22,292
Yeah, that's going to be a nightmare if they do

2331
02:16:22,292 --> 02:16:25,292
that. They don't want that. And so it's no wonder

2332
02:16:25,292 --> 02:16:30,212
that we have big moves in in Germany, particularly Germany.

2333
02:16:30,482 --> 02:16:36,102
in the Saxon region with the alternative for Deutschland sweeping

2334
02:16:36,102 --> 02:16:41,592
the elections. It is a political earthquake. Official preliminary results

2335
02:16:41,592 --> 02:16:45,072
are in. A far-right party on the cusp of power

2336
02:16:45,072 --> 02:16:47,452
at a state level for the first time in Germany

2337
02:16:47,452 --> 02:16:50,612
since the Second World War. And the world is watching.

2338
02:16:50,712 --> 02:16:53,912
The numbers in a moment, our correspondent as well first.

2339
02:16:54,452 --> 02:17:00,612
The celebrations. Oh! a crushing victory by the alternative for

2340
02:17:00,612 --> 02:17:03,802
germany or afd the party's co-leaders alice vidal and tino

2341
02:17:03,802 --> 02:17:07,352
coppola cheering on the exit polls in the middle their

2342
02:17:07,352 --> 02:17:10,472
lead candidate for the state of saxony unheard ulrich sigmund

2343
02:17:10,472 --> 02:17:14,152
the big winner of the night and the official results

2344
02:17:14,152 --> 02:17:17,462
the fd more than dublin is last showing with an

2345
02:17:17,462 --> 02:17:21,792
historic 43.8 percent the big loses the conservative Christian Democrats

2346
02:17:21,792 --> 02:17:24,952
in black nose diving. They play lead role in the

2347
02:17:24,952 --> 02:17:28,502
federal government. Their grand coalition partners, the Social Democrats in

2348
02:17:28,502 --> 02:17:31,972
red, scraping in ahead of the Greens and left party,

2349
02:17:31,972 --> 02:17:35,742
the left-wing populist BSW in orange, just making it into

2350
02:17:35,742 --> 02:17:40,232
parliament. So the AFD only just falling short of an

2351
02:17:40,232 --> 02:17:44,692
outright majority in Parliament with 39 of the 83 seats.

2352
02:17:44,692 --> 02:17:48,152
The CDU gets 15 seats. The SPD, Greens and Left

2353
02:17:48,152 --> 02:17:51,462
can count on eight each. BSW making it past the

2354
02:17:51,462 --> 02:17:55,732
5% threshold to enter Parliament with five seats. Now, of

2355
02:17:55,732 --> 02:17:58,712
course, it's obvious these guys are Nazis, so this is

2356
02:17:58,712 --> 02:18:02,012
a big problem. Here's the AFD's state leader, Ulrich Sigmund,

2357
02:18:02,012 --> 02:18:08,012
claiming victory. My dear friends, this is a big problem.

2358
02:18:08,082 --> 02:18:13,082
is a historic evening. We have made history. We are

2359
02:18:13,082 --> 02:18:16,432
going to get our country back and we start with

2360
02:18:16,432 --> 02:18:25,492
Saxony-Anhalt. 44.5% And the goal that we had at the

2361
02:18:25,492 --> 02:18:30,152
time wasn't just realistic, it was exactly what the people

2362
02:18:30,152 --> 02:18:34,811
of Saxony-Anhalt wanted to see. This is going to shake

2363
02:18:34,811 --> 02:18:38,941
all of Germany. What became clear in every interview and

2364
02:18:38,941 --> 02:18:42,291
here tonight is of course that some people are downcast.

2365
02:18:42,471 --> 02:18:45,182
But what we've seen is that most people know it's

2366
02:18:45,182 --> 02:18:49,122
not just about Saxony-Anhalt. We're sending a signal for all

2367
02:18:49,122 --> 02:18:52,212
of Germany because we found our way back to Germany

2368
02:18:52,212 --> 02:18:55,262
and this is a self-confident signal. We're sending out to

2369
02:18:55,262 --> 02:18:58,492
the entire country. You know, there's just something about a

2370
02:18:58,492 --> 02:19:03,712
German speech. you know that it just it always makes

2371
02:19:03,712 --> 02:19:08,252
people kind of you know you know what I mean

2372
02:19:08,252 --> 02:19:11,452
it's like no no no no Yeah, exactly. One more

2373
02:19:11,452 --> 02:19:14,922
clip. And what about this so-called firewall of opposition to

2374
02:19:14,922 --> 02:19:20,262
this radical party? Radical. Yes, exactly. The firewall is the

2375
02:19:20,262 --> 02:19:26,202
reason why all the parties, for example, the conservatives, the

2376
02:19:26,202 --> 02:19:29,632
social democrats, the greens, the left party, they say they

2377
02:19:29,632 --> 02:19:33,192
do not want to end. anything to do with the

2378
02:19:33,192 --> 02:19:38,672
AFD, which they consider anti-democratic. Oh dear. And it's coming

2379
02:19:38,672 --> 02:19:43,752
to a point where it's becoming difficult in certain situations,

2380
02:19:43,752 --> 02:19:48,022
like now in Saxony-Anhalt, but also in other states, especially

2381
02:19:48,022 --> 02:19:52,852
in eastern Germany, to find viable majorities that work. without

2382
02:19:52,852 --> 02:19:56,712
the AFD so often you see minority governments forming with

2383
02:19:56,792 --> 02:19:59,992
external support. But this is also a show of

2384
02:20:00,154 --> 02:20:04,044
force for the afd they're they're trying to to show

2385
02:20:04,044 --> 02:20:08,024
that uh basically the others can't do without it or

2386
02:20:08,024 --> 02:20:11,424
that it has to go ahead and govern alone so

2387
02:20:11,424 --> 02:20:15,554
the propaganda in in europe is so strong uh taxi

2388
02:20:15,554 --> 02:20:20,524
eric this guy's been driving for me for 25 years

2389
02:20:20,974 --> 02:20:23,304
And so whenever we go to Holland, he's always there.

2390
02:20:23,384 --> 02:20:26,124
He picks us. He still drives. Picks us up. He

2391
02:20:26,124 --> 02:20:28,514
used to pick Christina up from school. I mean, he's

2392
02:20:28,514 --> 02:20:34,234
a friend. And he is a very typical middle class

2393
02:20:34,234 --> 02:20:40,614
worker in the Netherlands who hates what's happened, hates their

2394
02:20:40,614 --> 02:20:47,864
government, hates. He really dislikes the immigration agenda, particularly the

2395
02:20:47,864 --> 02:20:54,094
Moroccans, you know, just everything. And he's like, well, you

2396
02:20:54,094 --> 02:20:56,814
know, yeah. Isn't it great that those guys won in

2397
02:20:56,814 --> 02:21:00,364
Germany that doing so? Yeah, yeah. But, you know, it's

2398
02:21:00,364 --> 02:21:04,044
kind of scary because, you know, they they don't they

2399
02:21:04,044 --> 02:21:07,224
any rattles off all these talking points that makes them

2400
02:21:07,224 --> 02:21:11,524
sound like they're Hitler. You're like, Eric. Have you actually

2401
02:21:11,524 --> 02:21:14,404
read any of their party agenda? Well, you know, I

2402
02:21:14,404 --> 02:21:17,034
don't know. They they don't want like they only want

2403
02:21:17,034 --> 02:21:19,394
white people in school. I said, I don't think that's

2404
02:21:19,394 --> 02:21:22,214
exactly what it says. Maybe that's something to do with

2405
02:21:22,214 --> 02:21:26,824
what they call reimmigration, like kicking people out that undesirable.

2406
02:21:27,564 --> 02:21:29,154
You know, whenever I say Trump is, you know, we

2407
02:21:29,154 --> 02:21:31,974
need someone like Trump here. But, you know, that's exactly

2408
02:21:31,974 --> 02:21:36,294
what they're getting. Yeah. Yeah. It's really sad. I'm very

2409
02:21:36,294 --> 02:21:39,974
concerned for my granddaughter. I really want those kids to

2410
02:21:39,974 --> 02:21:42,884
move here. Go to Nashville, I tell them. Go anywhere.

2411
02:21:43,744 --> 02:21:47,634
You don't have to be in Texas. Yeah. Nashville's hot

2412
02:21:47,634 --> 02:21:51,294
and humid. I guess Texas is hot, too. Yeah, but

2413
02:21:51,294 --> 02:21:56,214
Nashville is young. Don't come to Fredericksburg. We're all old

2414
02:21:56,214 --> 02:21:59,554
here. There's a lot of... A lot of people from

2415
02:21:59,554 --> 02:22:03,244
Hollywood have moved to Nashville or to, what's it, Franklin?

2416
02:22:03,584 --> 02:22:06,834
Yeah, that's the rich neighborhood. Really? Why are they moving

2417
02:22:06,834 --> 02:22:11,184
there? Are they trying to turn that blue? No. Well,

2418
02:22:11,184 --> 02:22:16,844
yeah. Unfortunately, that's probably what would happen because they get

2419
02:22:16,844 --> 02:22:20,084
sick of LA and California like me and then do

2420
02:22:20,084 --> 02:22:23,164
that, and then they take the same values and voting

2421
02:22:23,164 --> 02:22:26,064
methods with them, and then they end up saying kind

2422
02:22:26,064 --> 02:22:30,624
of what happened with Texas. That hasn't really happened with

2423
02:22:30,624 --> 02:22:35,204
Texas, right? Yeah. I mean, yes, our cities like Austin

2424
02:22:35,204 --> 02:22:40,994
and Dallas. But that's what most cities anymore is becoming

2425
02:22:40,994 --> 02:22:45,724
more and more blue. Everyone's so concerned about Tallarico Hotel.

2426
02:22:45,964 --> 02:22:49,304
First of all, Ken Paxton does not necessarily deserve to

2427
02:22:49,304 --> 02:22:53,894
win. The guy is just not right. Yeah. I know

2428
02:22:53,894 --> 02:22:56,774
more about him than most people. I just like his

2429
02:22:56,774 --> 02:23:00,414
character. I don't like him. And but, you know, Trump

2430
02:23:00,414 --> 02:23:05,884
endorsed them. But everyone's still all but Tallarico. We got

2431
02:23:05,884 --> 02:23:09,084
to vote for Paxton because Tallarico, first of all, you

2432
02:23:09,084 --> 02:23:12,904
know, every state, every country gets the government she deserves.

2433
02:23:12,904 --> 02:23:17,624
Yes. And Tallarico would be horrible. But this is like

2434
02:23:17,624 --> 02:23:23,724
Beto. Like, no. If he's less than 7% behind Paxton

2435
02:23:23,724 --> 02:23:29,044
in the midterms, I will be surprised. But the polling,

2436
02:23:29,044 --> 02:23:32,364
oh, the polls, it's neck and neck race. We all

2437
02:23:32,364 --> 02:23:37,804
know that. Who knows with the polls that actually speaking

2438
02:23:37,804 --> 02:23:44,024
of the midterms, play Elon, vote safe. Elon, vote safe.

2439
02:23:44,924 --> 02:23:48,164
One of the things that we are seeing right now

2440
02:23:48,164 --> 02:23:53,194
is the rise, and Judd Legum covered this today, of

2441
02:23:53,194 --> 02:23:59,384
taxing. the investment of Elon Musk in the midterm elections

2442
02:23:59,384 --> 02:24:02,534
and he has said he will spend up to a

2443
02:24:02,534 --> 02:24:05,754
hundred million dollars in these midterm elections which by the

2444
02:24:05,754 --> 02:24:08,084
way don't even start me about how that should be

2445
02:24:08,084 --> 02:24:10,824
illegal even though that is not that's something we'll have

2446
02:24:10,824 --> 02:24:14,734
to take on that Citizens United that's with some complications

2447
02:24:14,734 --> 02:24:17,824
around that but I'm one of the things that raises

2448
02:24:17,824 --> 02:24:20,814
aside from the sheer amount of money that's there that

2449
02:24:20,814 --> 02:24:24,164
raises a huge huge huge red flag is the fact

2450
02:24:24,164 --> 02:24:27,194
that one of the things he is investing in is

2451
02:24:27,194 --> 02:24:32,914
a website that is called vote safe.org and it sounds

2452
02:24:32,914 --> 02:24:38,424
fine right right but unlike vote.gov which is the government

2453
02:24:38,424 --> 02:24:42,964
system that does not collect our information according to legum

2454
02:24:42,964 --> 02:24:48,844
of popular information vote safe.org collects your name your birth

2455
02:24:48,844 --> 02:24:53,374
date your home address your email address your cell phone

2456
02:24:53,374 --> 02:24:58,114
number your ip address and location unlike google um uh

2457
02:24:58,114 --> 02:25:01,014
every link you click and every page you look at

2458
02:25:01,014 --> 02:25:03,664
now why should that worry you for a second she

2459
02:25:03,664 --> 02:25:06,274
i i left out this this woman is uh her

2460
02:25:06,274 --> 02:25:09,524
name is heather cox uh richardson and she's doing this

2461
02:25:09,524 --> 02:25:13,144
on youtube and instagram so the irony there about worrying

2462
02:25:13,144 --> 02:25:16,064
about data collection she's doing it on two of the

2463
02:25:16,064 --> 02:25:21,564
platforms that probably collect the most data Oh, of course

2464
02:25:21,564 --> 02:25:24,434
they do. They should worry you partly because of the

2465
02:25:24,434 --> 02:25:26,824
whole idea that we are, you know, we are being

2466
02:25:26,824 --> 02:25:33,004
packaged to... to advertisers to sell us things. I mean,

2467
02:25:33,004 --> 02:25:36,284
it's one of the weird things about the way U.S.

2468
02:25:36,284 --> 02:25:39,044
advertising works is that we think we are being sold

2469
02:25:39,044 --> 02:25:44,254
things, but in fact we are being packaged and sold

2470
02:25:44,254 --> 02:25:49,114
to advertisers. people who want to sell us things. But

2471
02:25:49,114 --> 02:25:52,184
with that information, and one of the things that Musk

2472
02:25:52,184 --> 02:25:58,364
has really been harvesting since Trump 2.0 is personal information,

2473
02:25:58,364 --> 02:26:04,264
we can be targeted pretty cleanly for political information or

2474
02:26:04,264 --> 02:26:09,764
political disinformation. Whenever you see something like this, like, you

2475
02:26:09,764 --> 02:26:12,964
know, you want to know more about your voting, for

2476
02:26:12,964 --> 02:26:16,724
example, or registration or whatever, make really sure that you

2477
02:26:16,724 --> 02:26:20,314
are going to official websites and not places like this

2478
02:26:20,314 --> 02:26:25,424
that are collecting your information. Right. And I'm still looking

2479
02:26:25,424 --> 02:26:29,304
at it and VoteSafe.org. Actually, I kind of like this.

2480
02:26:29,384 --> 02:26:31,364
Now, it did not ask me for my phone number.

2481
02:26:32,224 --> 02:26:35,714
Well, right. So that's this is just fear mongering of,

2482
02:26:35,714 --> 02:26:38,724
you know, there's so many things that she says. And

2483
02:26:38,724 --> 02:26:42,114
this is the hypocrisy. It makes me insane. So she

2484
02:26:42,114 --> 02:26:45,134
starts by, it should be illegal about him putting up

2485
02:26:45,134 --> 02:26:49,464
to $100 million towards midterms. And that – well, that

2486
02:26:49,464 --> 02:26:52,534
rule would take out unions. It would take out ActBlue,

2487
02:26:52,534 --> 02:26:55,934
one of your favorites. It would take out Soros and

2488
02:26:55,934 --> 02:27:00,344
Hoffman and Gates. Mm-hmm. But so it's fine if it's

2489
02:27:00,344 --> 02:27:03,154
on their side. But as soon as it's something they

2490
02:27:03,154 --> 02:27:05,764
don't agree with, oh, it should be illegal. And then

2491
02:27:05,764 --> 02:27:09,384
she's going on like he's hacking the system. You just

2492
02:27:09,384 --> 02:27:11,854
went to the site. They apparently by you just going

2493
02:27:11,854 --> 02:27:13,654
to the site just now, they have your date of

2494
02:27:13,654 --> 02:27:15,704
birth. They have your name, your address. Did you put

2495
02:27:15,704 --> 02:27:18,094
any of that in there? No. No, I just put

2496
02:27:18,094 --> 02:27:20,194
in my zip code. Is it forcing you? No, zip

2497
02:27:20,194 --> 02:27:22,754
code. Put my zip code in. And then it says

2498
02:27:22,754 --> 02:27:25,804
that vote.gov or the other one that, oh, it's the

2499
02:27:25,804 --> 02:27:28,174
government, so that's the only one you should use. Like

2500
02:27:28,174 --> 02:27:31,344
they're not collecting your data and that, oh, that's safe

2501
02:27:31,344 --> 02:27:35,084
because it's the government. The other day I was like,

2502
02:27:35,084 --> 02:27:40,134
you know, let me check my social security status. Which,

2503
02:27:40,134 --> 02:27:45,294
spoiler alert, very disappointing results at the end. But so

2504
02:27:45,294 --> 02:27:48,504
you log in. The first thing you've got to do

2505
02:27:48,504 --> 02:27:52,294
is, well, I luckily had an account with login.gov. I

2506
02:27:52,294 --> 02:27:54,844
guess I set something up a long time ago. So,

2507
02:27:54,844 --> 02:27:59,234
okay. So first, it needs my cell phone number. I

2508
02:27:59,234 --> 02:28:04,254
have to do the second factor authorization. Okay, here's the

2509
02:28:04,254 --> 02:28:07,414
stupid code for my cell phone. That's like, okay, to

2510
02:28:07,414 --> 02:28:09,864
log in, now you have to scan this link on

2511
02:28:09,864 --> 02:28:15,034
your phone. Okay, scan the QR code. Then it opens

2512
02:28:15,034 --> 02:28:17,974
up a... a site and says, all right, get your

2513
02:28:17,974 --> 02:28:21,644
driver's license or passport, and then you need to scan

2514
02:28:21,644 --> 02:28:25,384
the front of your ID card, the back of your

2515
02:28:25,384 --> 02:28:28,484
ID card. Then you have to take a selfie. I'm

2516
02:28:28,484 --> 02:28:30,844
not kidding. And then it takes you back to the

2517
02:28:30,844 --> 02:28:33,884
site. Then it gives you another code through your phone

2518
02:28:33,884 --> 02:28:36,654
that you have to input. And then it takes you

2519
02:28:36,654 --> 02:28:39,484
in only to find out That if I retire now,

2520
02:28:39,484 --> 02:28:43,044
I'll get $2,700 a month. If I retire at 67,

2521
02:28:43,044 --> 02:28:47,224
it'll be $4,200. And if I wait until I'm 70,

2522
02:28:47,224 --> 02:28:50,924
when I'm a Walmart greeter, then I'll get something like

2523
02:28:50,924 --> 02:28:54,764
$5,700 a month. Which, of course, by the time I'm

2524
02:28:54,764 --> 02:28:59,334
70, will be worth five nickels. And I'm like, what

2525
02:28:59,334 --> 02:29:04,864
is my government doing? There's like this authentication process was

2526
02:29:04,864 --> 02:29:08,534
nuts. Because I'm over 50 now and I need to

2527
02:29:08,534 --> 02:29:13,084
start looking at things like this. Welcome to AARP, brother.

2528
02:29:13,924 --> 02:29:17,984
Yeah. So at what year, at what age, if you...

2529
02:29:18,304 --> 02:29:22,304
Start collecting the $2,700 a month. How many is that?

2530
02:29:22,484 --> 02:29:25,764
62? Yeah, 62. And then the 42 is what? 67?

2531
02:29:26,024 --> 02:29:28,934
67, yeah. And I thought, because I made a lot

2532
02:29:28,934 --> 02:29:30,654
of money back in the day, I thought I would

2533
02:29:30,654 --> 02:29:33,744
get a lot more. No. No, it takes an average

2534
02:29:33,744 --> 02:29:38,124
over everything that you... I can't remember exactly how it

2535
02:29:38,124 --> 02:29:40,804
works, but it takes like an average over what you've

2536
02:29:40,804 --> 02:29:42,814
made and what you paid in. It works badly is

2537
02:29:42,814 --> 02:29:46,664
what it does. Well, yeah. It doesn't work very well.

2538
02:29:47,164 --> 02:29:52,024
It's like SAG. I'm SAG-AFTRA. And they keep sending me

2539
02:29:52,024 --> 02:29:55,084
my retirement information. Well, don't log into it because you

2540
02:29:55,084 --> 02:29:57,824
never made enough money to retire from SAG after money.

2541
02:29:57,944 --> 02:29:59,464
No way. Go away, you.

2542
02:30:00,040 --> 02:30:02,960
It's going to be big packets of information. I need

2543
02:30:02,960 --> 02:30:05,740
to sag after. The money they're spending on that should

2544
02:30:05,740 --> 02:30:08,860
be used elsewhere. Well, I like Fran Drescher. I've always

2545
02:30:08,860 --> 02:30:12,380
liked her. I think she's cool. She's not the president

2546
02:30:12,380 --> 02:30:17,140
anymore. Oh, really? It's the guy from Stand By Me.

2547
02:30:17,340 --> 02:30:20,910
I can't remember his name. The kid? Yeah. Really? The

2548
02:30:20,910 --> 02:30:23,340
kid? Yeah. I think so. Oh, they should have had.

2549
02:30:23,520 --> 02:30:26,070
Look it up. Ask the book of knowledge. Okay. Book

2550
02:30:26,070 --> 02:30:31,290
of knowledge. All right. Who is. What's this? Book of

2551
02:30:31,290 --> 02:30:35,490
knowledge. Who is the current president of SAG-AFTRA and what

2552
02:30:35,490 --> 02:30:38,390
is he known for? All right. This is a great

2553
02:30:38,390 --> 02:30:45,700
book of knowledge question, everybody. scribbling away through the scrolls.

2554
02:30:48,870 --> 02:30:51,780
According to the book of knowledge, the current president of

2555
02:30:51,780 --> 02:30:57,720
SAG-AFTRA is Sean Astin, elected on September 12, 2025. A

2556
02:30:57,720 --> 02:31:02,200
man whose four-decade acting career gave audiences beloved characters from

2557
02:31:02,200 --> 02:31:05,320
Mikey Walsh in The Goonies to Samwise Gamgee in The

2558
02:31:05,320 --> 02:31:08,640
Lord of the Rings trilogy. He also follows in the

2559
02:31:08,640 --> 02:31:12,400
footsteps of his mother, Patty Duke, who held the very

2560
02:31:12,400 --> 02:31:17,320
same post 37 years prior. Ah, nepotism. Thus. It has

2561
02:31:17,320 --> 02:31:20,060
been written. I just like that the dude from the

2562
02:31:20,060 --> 02:31:24,680
Goonies is sending me retirement information. Thanks, Goonies. Thanks, dude.

2563
02:31:25,520 --> 02:31:28,450
You must be a guild member. Isn't it like you're

2564
02:31:28,450 --> 02:31:32,750
producing? No, I've had very public. Ah, falling out. You're

2565
02:31:32,750 --> 02:31:35,870
such a rebel. You're a radical. Yeah, they love to

2566
02:31:35,870 --> 02:31:38,210
write about me when I walked out of the PGA

2567
02:31:38,210 --> 02:31:41,640
Awards and discuss as everybody was getting up there, just

2568
02:31:41,640 --> 02:31:45,690
giving their political speeches. And I posted about it as

2569
02:31:45,690 --> 02:31:48,490
I got up in the middle and left and then

2570
02:31:48,490 --> 02:31:51,790
posted that I had enough. You called them out on

2571
02:31:51,790 --> 02:31:54,960
X. Yes. Well, it was still Twitter at the time.

2572
02:31:56,520 --> 02:31:59,730
You're such a rebel, you. I'm calling you out, you

2573
02:31:59,730 --> 02:32:03,240
political nutjobs. I love it. Yeah, I had a lot

2574
02:32:03,240 --> 02:32:06,190
of – and if you will notice, my last production

2575
02:32:06,190 --> 02:32:10,500
credits, they had to do this stupid – the PGA,

2576
02:32:10,500 --> 02:32:13,590
they do this stupid – asterisks next to all the

2577
02:32:13,590 --> 02:32:16,360
producer's name. And that just means that you no longer,

2578
02:32:16,660 --> 02:32:19,460
you don't pay your dues. They were no, that they

2579
02:32:19,460 --> 02:32:24,440
were qualified by the PGA, that the PGA is, um,

2580
02:32:25,080 --> 02:32:28,360
And it's official or whatever, so Academy nominations or anything

2581
02:32:28,360 --> 02:32:30,440
to do with the PGA, you have to get the

2582
02:32:30,440 --> 02:32:33,590
asterisk to show that some board said, yeah, he was

2583
02:32:33,590 --> 02:32:38,160
a producer. And I fought them a few times. It's

2584
02:32:38,160 --> 02:32:42,450
so aggravating and stupid. It's just their little fiefdom of

2585
02:32:42,450 --> 02:32:46,880
control. Yeah. Dana Brunette, you're a very interesting guy, and

2586
02:32:46,880 --> 02:32:51,020
I really appreciate you coming on. But you can't go

2587
02:32:51,020 --> 02:32:54,510
anywhere because we have to do the thing you created

2588
02:32:54,510 --> 02:32:58,860
yourself. It is the tip of the day. Great advice

2589
02:32:58,860 --> 02:33:03,880
for you and me. Just the tip with JCB. And

2590
02:33:03,880 --> 02:33:08,650
sometimes... All right. Tip of the day. You already gave

2591
02:33:08,650 --> 02:33:10,530
away your Grok bot, which I think I gave you

2592
02:33:10,530 --> 02:33:12,690
that. Didn't I give you that tip or are you

2593
02:33:12,690 --> 02:33:15,340
already using it? No, I was – well, you gave

2594
02:33:15,340 --> 02:33:17,660
me the tip to use it for the clips. But

2595
02:33:17,660 --> 02:33:20,980
my tip for that was that people that are just

2596
02:33:20,980 --> 02:33:24,940
using ChatGPT or Cloud should start to explore Dropbox because

2597
02:33:24,940 --> 02:33:28,020
it's user-friendly. Get back to the mic. Get closer to

2598
02:33:28,020 --> 02:33:31,590
the mic. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Pulling away. Sorry, I'm an

2599
02:33:31,590 --> 02:33:38,380
amateur. The other I have is – is Harbor Freight,

2600
02:33:38,380 --> 02:33:42,450
which I used to call Horrible Freight because it was

2601
02:33:42,450 --> 02:33:47,640
all very cheap tools. But over the years, and particularly

2602
02:33:47,640 --> 02:33:51,480
as I've been working on the ranch, I've started to

2603
02:33:51,480 --> 02:33:54,410
realize the benefits of it. So like if you've got

2604
02:33:54,410 --> 02:33:57,360
to pull an engine or – You're dropping a transmission.

2605
02:33:57,580 --> 02:34:00,740
You can get an engine crane or a transmission jack.

2606
02:34:00,800 --> 02:34:03,960
It's good for things like that you're not like a

2607
02:34:03,960 --> 02:34:05,600
shop where you're going to be doing stuff all the

2608
02:34:05,600 --> 02:34:08,130
time. But if you're in the middle of a project,

2609
02:34:08,130 --> 02:34:10,310
you need to get a tool that you're going to

2610
02:34:10,310 --> 02:34:13,730
use once or twice, then… It's a great place to

2611
02:34:13,730 --> 02:34:17,140
get cheap things, unlike Timu, which sends you stuff that

2612
02:34:17,140 --> 02:34:21,040
just falls apart. you can actually see it there in

2613
02:34:21,040 --> 02:34:24,730
the store. And you kind of browse around. They got

2614
02:34:24,730 --> 02:34:26,410
a lot of great stuff. And I feel like I'm

2615
02:34:26,410 --> 02:34:28,390
doing a commercial for them. No, that's what tip of

2616
02:34:28,390 --> 02:34:32,190
the day is. Yeah. Now I'm realizing that, yeah. But

2617
02:34:32,190 --> 02:34:35,920
the other is what I have a whole – tool

2618
02:34:35,920 --> 02:34:39,280
chest now full of uh icon tools which is their

2619
02:34:39,280 --> 02:34:41,560
their brand of tool they have a few different brands

2620
02:34:41,560 --> 02:34:43,360
that they make and they're all made pretty much the

2621
02:34:43,360 --> 02:34:47,020
same place i'm sure they're all in china but icon

2622
02:34:47,020 --> 02:34:50,900
tools they are guaranteed for life like remember sears with

2623
02:34:50,900 --> 02:34:53,830
craftsmen sure you used to be able so icon tools

2624
02:34:53,830 --> 02:34:56,590
is very similar to that so if the tool breaks

2625
02:34:56,590 --> 02:34:59,540
or something malfunctions on it you just take it back

2626
02:34:59,540 --> 02:35:01,240
into the counter you give it to them and they

2627
02:35:01,240 --> 02:35:03,200
they replace it and give you give you a new

2628
02:35:03,200 --> 02:35:05,760
one i've done it twice with um with hole punches

2629
02:35:05,760 --> 02:35:08,330
chisels and hole punches where i'm I'm using around the

2630
02:35:08,330 --> 02:35:10,740
ranch, like trying to change teeth on the bucket of

2631
02:35:10,740 --> 02:35:13,760
an excavator and hammering on it and broke the punch

2632
02:35:13,760 --> 02:35:16,580
trying to get the pin out for the tooth. And

2633
02:35:16,580 --> 02:35:18,780
I've done it two different times. The whole set is

2634
02:35:18,780 --> 02:35:20,670
$80 set. I just take it back in there, hand

2635
02:35:20,670 --> 02:35:22,320
it to them. They give me a new set and

2636
02:35:22,320 --> 02:35:24,500
walk back out. So that's my tip of the day

2637
02:35:24,500 --> 02:35:27,870
as icon tools at Harbor Freight. Wow. And so what

2638
02:35:27,870 --> 02:35:30,090
kind of horses do you have that you need to

2639
02:35:30,090 --> 02:35:32,580
have buckets and stuff like that? What is going on

2640
02:35:32,580 --> 02:35:34,810
at that ranch of yours? No, a bucket on an

2641
02:35:34,810 --> 02:35:37,450
excavator. Right. What are you excavating? I have a lot

2642
02:35:37,450 --> 02:35:39,640
of heavy equipment. I built this whole ranch. A lot

2643
02:35:39,640 --> 02:35:42,510
of people don't realize that, but it was 40 acres

2644
02:35:42,510 --> 02:35:45,100
of raw land. There was nothing here. And I had

2645
02:35:45,100 --> 02:35:47,740
no idea what I was doing when I got here,

2646
02:35:47,740 --> 02:35:50,460
but it was like a big sandbox for me. And

2647
02:35:50,460 --> 02:35:54,970
heavy equipment started arriving and... I just started to learn

2648
02:35:54,970 --> 02:35:57,460
to use it. And then some of that I own,

2649
02:35:57,460 --> 02:36:00,020
I have to learn to maintain it. All right, everybody.

2650
02:36:00,320 --> 02:36:04,160
Harborfreight.com and Icon Tools is their top. That's your tip

2651
02:36:04,160 --> 02:36:08,590
of the day. Creative files for you and me. Just

2652
02:36:08,590 --> 02:36:14,170
a tip with JCB. And sometimes Adam. Created by Dana

2653
02:36:14,170 --> 02:36:17,840
Burnetti. I didn't think we were really going to do

2654
02:36:17,840 --> 02:36:19,840
tips of the day. So I kind of winged that

2655
02:36:19,840 --> 02:36:22,400
one. How could you not think I would throw that

2656
02:36:22,400 --> 02:36:24,710
at you? Of course. Of course. Hey, I got a

2657
02:36:24,710 --> 02:36:27,830
new segment. Oh, a new segment. Oh, we need another

2658
02:36:27,830 --> 02:36:32,080
Created by Dana Burnetti segment. Okay. So this is show

2659
02:36:32,080 --> 02:36:37,500
1903? Yes, it is. What happened in 1903? You should

2660
02:36:37,500 --> 02:36:44,760
know this. Uh... Was that the first Bank of America?

2661
02:36:46,290 --> 02:36:52,260
What? 1903. Hold on. I'm thinking. I'm not looking it

2662
02:36:52,260 --> 02:36:56,820
up. I'm trying. I think I should. There's something financial

2663
02:36:56,820 --> 02:36:59,960
that sticks in my mind about 1903. Either that or

2664
02:36:59,960 --> 02:37:04,120
it was the great fire of San Francisco. Did those

2665
02:37:04,120 --> 02:37:07,280
happen in 1903? I'm just talking out of my butt.

2666
02:37:07,400 --> 02:37:09,600
I have no idea. Hey, what was the most significant

2667
02:37:09,600 --> 02:37:12,600
historical event in 1903? Man, this book of knowledge is

2668
02:37:12,600 --> 02:37:15,510
getting a workout today. Okay, book of knowledge. What was

2669
02:37:15,510 --> 02:37:19,040
the most significant event of 1903? Well, this should be

2670
02:37:19,040 --> 02:37:21,910
interesting. Yeah, I have no idea what it's going to

2671
02:37:21,910 --> 02:37:24,380
say. Ask the book. According to the Book of Knowledge,

2672
02:37:24,380 --> 02:37:28,540
the most significant event of 1993 was the first successful

2673
02:37:28,540 --> 02:37:32,440
powered airplane flight by Orville and Wilbur Wright on December

2674
02:37:32,440 --> 02:37:37,360
17th at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina, forever transforming human civilization.

2675
02:37:38,720 --> 02:37:42,400
And the nature of war, commerce, and exploration. Thank you,

2676
02:37:42,400 --> 02:37:44,840
Book of Nihilism. What was that last bit? It has

2677
02:37:44,840 --> 02:37:49,090
been written. Forever transforming human civilization and the nature of

2678
02:37:49,090 --> 02:37:53,460
war, commerce, and exploration. Yes, I should have known that.

2679
02:37:53,520 --> 02:37:55,970
I should have known that. Okay. But I think there

2680
02:37:55,970 --> 02:37:59,390
should be a historical trivia bit on each one of

2681
02:37:59,390 --> 02:38:02,190
the shows. You can at least do it until show

2682
02:38:02,190 --> 02:38:08,290
2027. Okay. Dana, would you come on again in a

2683
02:38:08,290 --> 02:38:13,150
few weeks? Sure. Did you have a good time? As

2684
02:38:13,150 --> 02:38:15,040
long as everybody else likes it and long as it

2685
02:38:15,040 --> 02:38:17,360
doesn't the numbers don't drop off. Oh, no, no the

2686
02:38:17,360 --> 02:38:19,730
numbers the numbers No in the in the tank. What

2687
02:38:19,730 --> 02:38:21,770
is it troll count? It's hurt. Oh, I didn't do

2688
02:38:21,770 --> 02:38:23,800
a troll count. You're right Hold on a second. Joe

2689
02:38:23,800 --> 02:38:32,890
count Oh Whoa, yeah, 1,074. We broke a grand thanks

2690
02:38:32,890 --> 02:38:39,820
to Dana Brunetti. You're well-trained. We were in the 8,900,

2691
02:38:39,820 --> 02:38:44,870
so you've definitely brought it back. Very good. Dana, I

2692
02:38:44,870 --> 02:38:47,700
really appreciate it. It was fun talking with you. I

2693
02:38:47,700 --> 02:38:49,320
know we talked a lot about you in the beginning.

2694
02:38:49,320 --> 02:38:51,280
So next time you come on, we'll dive more into

2695
02:38:51,280 --> 02:38:53,610
the news. But you have a great perspective. You also

2696
02:38:53,610 --> 02:38:56,340
have great stories. I really like that. It's really good.

2697
02:38:56,480 --> 02:38:59,420
Thanks. And I'll call you later. I'll call you later

2698
02:38:59,420 --> 02:39:02,610
tonight and we'll catch up. All right. Sounds good. What,

2699
02:39:02,610 --> 02:39:04,020
did I just shut down the mic or just leave

2700
02:39:04,020 --> 02:39:07,080
it going? Yeah, you know, you just shut it down.

2701
02:39:07,220 --> 02:39:09,550
You go outside. You go play with the horses and

2702
02:39:09,550 --> 02:39:11,260
say hi to your wife for me. We love her.

2703
02:39:11,400 --> 02:39:13,350
And I don't play with the horses, but I'll go

2704
02:39:13,350 --> 02:39:15,480
say hi to my wife. Maybe play with her. Yeah.

2705
02:39:15,480 --> 02:39:17,970
All right. There it is. Tina says hi. Thank you

2706
02:39:17,970 --> 02:39:21,530
very much, brother. Hi, Tina. OK, take care, Dana. All

2707
02:39:21,530 --> 02:39:27,840
right. Thanks. ♪ Connection is protection ♪ ♪ Connection is

2708
02:39:27,840 --> 02:39:33,510
protection ♪ ♪ Da dum da da dum da da

2709
02:39:33,510 --> 02:39:41,400
dum da da dum da da dum ♪ Bye. *Dun-dun-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh

2710
02:39:41,400 --> 02:39:48,500
* ♪ Protection from the lonely broadcast blues. We trade

2711
02:39:48,500 --> 02:39:51,970
the screens reflection for a real-time rendezvous. No agenda but

2712
02:39:51,970 --> 02:39:55,100
the human one. Value for value in the flesh. In

2713
02:39:55,100 --> 02:39:58,440
this pixelated prison, we break out and refresh. Scroll the

2714
02:39:58,440 --> 02:39:59,980
fees to the dopamine drive.

2715
02:40:00,112 --> 02:40:04,062
is blazing the glow chasing shadows of stories they dissected

2716
02:40:04,062 --> 02:40:08,142
for the show the isolation installation got installed in our

2717
02:40:08,142 --> 02:40:11,262
heads then the producers got the memo time to link

2718
02:40:11,262 --> 02:40:15,452
up instead from the morning transmission to the meetup after

2719
02:40:15,452 --> 02:40:39,042
dark we swap typed out We'll be right back. the

2720
02:40:39,042 --> 02:40:41,612
algorithm for another life on the post now it's high

2721
02:40:41,612 --> 02:40:44,442
fives with humans who catch the inside joke most no

2722
02:40:44,442 --> 02:40:47,482
central server needed it's a mesh made of meat organic

2723
02:40:47,482 --> 02:40:51,202
and unfiltered can't be soda deleted loneliness was the product

2724
02:40:51,202 --> 02:40:54,172
they pushed on repeat a connection the cure that makes

2725
02:40:54,172 --> 02:40:56,422
the whole world feel sweet so if you're stuck you're

2726
02:40:56,422 --> 02:40:59,212
stuck in the scroll hole debating box in your room

2727
02:40:59,212 --> 02:41:02,652
step into the real world where the signal goes boom

2728
02:41:02,652 --> 02:41:06,912
find your local producers no pressure no plan just connection

2729
02:41:06,912 --> 02:41:30,592
that's protection that's the ultimate jam. Yeah, you know it

2730
02:41:30,592 --> 02:41:43,292
is. Facts. No agenda show. That was fun. Dana Brunetti

2731
02:41:43,292 --> 02:41:46,332
broke the two-hour barrier with me. In fact, two and

2732
02:41:46,332 --> 02:41:50,612
a half hours. That's amazing when it comes to the

2733
02:41:50,612 --> 02:41:56,342
co-guest hosts. Wonderful. So value for value. We still need

2734
02:41:56,342 --> 02:41:59,712
your time, talent and treasure to keep the show going.

2735
02:41:59,712 --> 02:42:01,952
Thank you. And we pay our guests, by the way.

2736
02:42:01,952 --> 02:42:05,002
We make sure that some of that value goes to

2737
02:42:05,002 --> 02:42:08,152
them. Even Daniel Brunetti will get some value for showing

2738
02:42:08,152 --> 02:42:14,172
up. Really appreciate that. And of course. Value for value

2739
02:42:14,172 --> 02:42:17,072
works in multiple ways. We always talk about the time.

2740
02:42:17,072 --> 02:42:20,622
We always talk about the time and the talent. Thank

2741
02:42:20,622 --> 02:42:23,912
you to everybody who supports the show with your boots

2742
02:42:23,912 --> 02:42:27,912
on the ground, with your clip ideas, jingles, Just Baker.

2743
02:42:27,912 --> 02:42:30,522
Thank you for your mixes. More people can send mixes,

2744
02:42:30,522 --> 02:42:33,002
by the way. It's not necessarily a Just Baker show,

2745
02:42:33,002 --> 02:42:34,902
but he seems to be very good at it. very

2746
02:42:34,902 --> 02:42:40,372
consistent um we also uh appreciate arc art art art

2747
02:42:40,372 --> 02:42:44,772
oh hold on a second dana i'm sorry you're right

2748
02:42:44,772 --> 02:42:47,172
he just texted me he said we forgot the isos

2749
02:42:47,172 --> 02:42:52,182
and you did all that work on him Okay. Hold

2750
02:42:52,182 --> 02:42:56,582
on a second. Let me see. I think I don't...

2751
02:42:56,582 --> 02:42:59,672
Oh, man. Okay. Am I still here? Yeah, you're here.

2752
02:42:59,672 --> 02:43:01,612
You're here. Do you hear me? Yeah, I went and

2753
02:43:01,612 --> 02:43:03,892
took a leak and I'm like, oh, crap, I forgot

2754
02:43:03,892 --> 02:43:07,682
the ISOs. Okay, here's the... I have your four ISOs

2755
02:43:07,682 --> 02:43:11,152
ready and I will start and we will... The good

2756
02:43:11,152 --> 02:43:13,032
work on these, these are all within the time limits.

2757
02:43:13,092 --> 02:43:14,892
Here we go. It's the young kid. It's the guy

2758
02:43:14,892 --> 02:43:18,432
with the beard and the fabulous black eyes. Okay. I

2759
02:43:18,432 --> 02:43:23,342
couldn't understand what they were saying. Okay. That's no. That's

2760
02:43:23,342 --> 02:43:28,912
no. He would not interact with us. Okay. Possible. Possible.

2761
02:43:29,132 --> 02:43:30,812
Let's see if you got anything better. Is this not

2762
02:43:30,812 --> 02:43:35,072
crazy? This is crazy. Yeah, I like that one. And

2763
02:43:35,072 --> 02:43:37,542
your last one here. Well, I have to sit with

2764
02:43:37,542 --> 02:43:40,342
that for just a second. I like this one. I

2765
02:43:40,342 --> 02:43:43,622
think this is your best one. Is this not crazy?

2766
02:43:43,622 --> 02:43:46,362
This is crazy. I think that's the best one. Number

2767
02:43:46,362 --> 02:43:50,432
39. All right. perfect thank you for coming back i'm

2768
02:43:50,432 --> 02:43:54,502
back out later guys bye he knows how the show

2769
02:43:54,502 --> 02:43:59,212
works that's for sure So we had the MTV Chronicles

2770
02:43:59,212 --> 02:44:03,402
for episode 1902, and the artwork I think was better

2771
02:44:03,402 --> 02:44:07,252
than the show itself. People just love what William St.

2772
02:44:07,252 --> 02:44:10,452
James did. There were a couple other – like only

2773
02:44:10,452 --> 02:44:13,252
one or two entries, and I also – I'm always

2774
02:44:13,252 --> 02:44:16,802
looking for – for entries for the bat signal so

2775
02:44:16,802 --> 02:44:19,701
you can always put stuff in early But this, I

2776
02:44:19,701 --> 02:44:23,692
mean, this almost went viral with my hair all crazy

2777
02:44:23,692 --> 02:44:26,642
and no agenda tangled up in the hair. And then

2778
02:44:26,642 --> 02:44:29,862
Adam's MTV Chronicles. It was even a little like headbangers

2779
02:44:29,862 --> 02:44:34,112
ball, like metal pin that I've got, episode number 1902.

2780
02:44:35,072 --> 02:44:37,732
Dynamite work, William. Thank you so much. I don't think...

2781
02:44:37,812 --> 02:44:40,932
I don't even think William is willing. Let me see.

2782
02:44:42,772 --> 02:44:44,962
Is that a first time for William? I'm not sure

2783
02:44:44,962 --> 02:44:47,852
if he's done other stuff. Let me see. Oh, yeah.

2784
02:44:47,952 --> 02:44:51,732
No agenda. Good or podcast. I don't know. I think

2785
02:44:51,732 --> 02:44:55,292
that was. I don't know if we if that one.

2786
02:44:55,432 --> 02:44:57,752
No, no. He's only done one other piece. So that

2787
02:44:57,752 --> 02:45:04,092
was fantastic. Really, really cool. Time, talent, treasure. We always

2788
02:45:04,092 --> 02:45:08,732
thank everybody who supports us with $50 or more. And

2789
02:45:08,732 --> 02:45:11,932
this is for two shows, as promised. So there's... a

2790
02:45:11,932 --> 02:45:16,232
little more than uh than typical and we start off

2791
02:45:16,232 --> 02:45:21,192
with 362 dollars from baron tommy hawk of the heartland

2792
02:45:21,192 --> 02:45:24,012
from iowa city and he actually sent this on a

2793
02:45:24,012 --> 02:45:26,862
card a birthday card for me to our p.o box

2794
02:45:26,862 --> 02:45:32,402
here in fredericksburg 1849 fredericksburg texas 78624 but luckily the

2795
02:45:32,402 --> 02:45:34,722
checklist was made out to no agenda, so I can

2796
02:45:34,722 --> 02:45:36,392
just send it off to Jay and everything will be

2797
02:45:36,392 --> 02:45:39,472
okay. He says, ITM, Adam, while we all continue to

2798
02:45:39,472 --> 02:45:43,552
mourn the passing of JCD and celebrate the incredible legacy

2799
02:45:43,552 --> 02:45:47,772
of no agenda, you continue building and evolving. Happy birthday.

2800
02:45:48,152 --> 02:45:51,962
Both. Happy birthday. You continue to building and evolving both

2801
02:45:51,962 --> 02:45:54,372
with the curry and friends version of no agenda and

2802
02:45:54,372 --> 02:45:57,752
the growth of we get to do this. W.G.T.D.T. Dot

2803
02:45:57,752 --> 02:46:02,572
com. Another great product. Highly recommended. I'm honored to become

2804
02:46:02,572 --> 02:46:05,312
one of the Order of the Ants, a member, I

2805
02:46:05,312 --> 02:46:09,062
guess, and continue supporting the best podcast in the universe,

2806
02:46:09,062 --> 02:46:11,892
Baron Tommy Hawk. Of the Heartland. Thank you very much,

2807
02:46:11,892 --> 02:46:18,872
brother. Appreciate that. Anonymous comes in from Parts Unknown, $350.93,

2808
02:46:18,872 --> 02:46:24,912
which is probably, I'm just going to guess, $333.33. It

2809
02:46:24,912 --> 02:46:31,842
says, Carlos Alcatraz. Al-Qa'araz lost to the American at 3.33

2810
02:46:31,842 --> 02:46:36,692
a.m. So the obligatory JCD coming in. Keep my donation

2811
02:46:36,692 --> 02:46:40,752
anonymous, but Adam, MQ-9 losses are at 70%. We are

2812
02:46:40,752 --> 02:46:44,592
pulling MQ-1 birds out of mothballs. I'm pretty sure this

2813
02:46:44,592 --> 02:46:47,912
has to do with Iran. The cost is $1.5 million

2814
02:46:47,912 --> 02:46:51,912
for an MQ-1, $14 million for an MQ-9. These are

2815
02:46:51,912 --> 02:46:55,042
the drones. The government figured out we can identify SAM

2816
02:46:55,042 --> 02:46:58,032
sites for cheaper. We blew $6 million. 70% of the

2817
02:46:58,032 --> 02:47:01,532
Reapers to identify the SAM as surface air missiles. Guess

2818
02:47:01,532 --> 02:47:05,482
we're getting smarter after 70% of 14 million. There's a

2819
02:47:05,482 --> 02:47:11,042
real boots on the ground and a – did he

2820
02:47:11,042 --> 02:47:14,512
ask for a JCD Hot Pockets? I think so. And,

2821
02:47:14,512 --> 02:47:18,542
of course, a donation. Hot Pockets. Thank you very much,

2822
02:47:18,542 --> 02:47:23,542
Anonymous. We respect that. Randy Filkins, 34375, please add me

2823
02:47:23,542 --> 02:47:25,692
to the order of the ants as I continue to

2824
02:47:25,692 --> 02:47:28,582
use John's methods to rid my kitchen of ants every

2825
02:47:28,582 --> 02:47:34,392
spring and fall. Adam Banks. I have no parts. I

2826
02:47:34,392 --> 02:47:39,402
don't have any parts unknown. 34375. ITM Adam, thank you

2827
02:47:39,402 --> 02:47:41,242
to you and John for all the years of great

2828
02:47:41,242 --> 02:47:44,712
no agenda shows. I've been listening since episode 151 where

2829
02:47:44,712 --> 02:47:47,622
you had just read Sarah Palin's new book. The people

2830
02:47:47,622 --> 02:47:49,732
around – I remember at the airport I was carrying

2831
02:47:49,732 --> 02:47:52,022
it. The people around you got all bent out of

2832
02:47:52,022 --> 02:47:54,892
shape at the mere mention. of you taking the time

2833
02:47:54,892 --> 02:47:58,012
to read about someone instead of parroting the media's narrative

2834
02:47:58,012 --> 02:48:00,502
i knew this was the show for me sadly this

2835
02:48:00,502 --> 02:48:04,192
is only my second donation john's passing struck a chord

2836
02:48:04,192 --> 02:48:06,432
not only because of the years of enjoyment hearing him

2837
02:48:06,432 --> 02:48:09,082
on the show but he passed on july 20th exactly

2838
02:48:09,082 --> 02:48:11,032
one year after i lost someone very close to me

2839
02:48:11,032 --> 02:48:13,962
thank you for staying strong and moving forward no jingles

2840
02:48:13,962 --> 02:48:16,752
no karma All right. Let me make sure I got

2841
02:48:16,752 --> 02:48:22,482
everything set up here. Jamie Forsythe, 34375, in honor of

2842
02:48:22,482 --> 02:48:25,712
John. No jingles, no requests, no long note. Thank you.

2843
02:48:26,112 --> 02:48:28,792
Happily joining the colony of the ants of no agenda.

2844
02:48:28,792 --> 02:48:33,552
Cheers from Jamie. Megan Klein, 343.75, in honor of JCD,

2845
02:48:33,552 --> 02:48:36,242
you are missed. A pledge to keep fighting the good

2846
02:48:36,242 --> 02:48:39,762
fight in his memory against those six-legged bastards. Blessings to

2847
02:48:39,762 --> 02:48:44,732
the entire NA sphere, especially to Korean Dvorak families. Thomas

2848
02:48:44,732 --> 02:48:52,672
Blowers, um... 3.43.75. Note at notes at noagenda.com. Yeah, that

2849
02:48:52,672 --> 02:48:56,832
didn't arrive because it's notes at noagendashow.net. So send it.

2850
02:48:56,912 --> 02:49:02,692
I'll gladly read it on 1904. Tim Erlandson. 343 75

2851
02:49:02,692 --> 02:49:06,032
that's these are all 333.33 plus fees and it's appreciated

2852
02:49:06,032 --> 02:49:09,272
in the morning adam i am still saddened by the

2853
02:49:09,272 --> 02:49:11,582
loss of jcd truly sorry for your loss when i

2854
02:49:11,582 --> 02:49:15,922
heard you mention the asus ascent bx10 spark workstation another

2855
02:49:15,922 --> 02:49:18,892
producer was sending you yes the show is now partially

2856
02:49:18,892 --> 02:49:21,112
produced by it i figured it was time to donate

2857
02:49:21,112 --> 02:49:23,552
again i've been waiting to claim my night Hood accounting

2858
02:49:23,552 --> 02:49:26,432
attached. Yes, you're there. With an executive producer donation. So

2859
02:49:26,432 --> 02:49:29,392
here's my $333.33 for the order of the ant donation.

2860
02:49:29,652 --> 02:49:32,072
Back to the ACES. I've been using one of these

2861
02:49:32,072 --> 02:49:34,962
for about six months. I was considering sending my first

2862
02:49:34,962 --> 02:49:37,472
one back because of the lackluster performance I was getting.

2863
02:49:37,832 --> 02:49:40,622
I'm glad I didn't. These machines are great for small

2864
02:49:40,622 --> 02:49:44,472
AI clusters. I now have several in my stack. Ooh.

2865
02:49:44,872 --> 02:49:47,012
I'd love to share some tips and tricks with you,

2866
02:49:47,012 --> 02:49:49,812
but if you run into trouble with yours, contact information

2867
02:49:49,812 --> 02:49:58,732
included below my daily driver model is quen3.627b-a3b-nvfp4. That's exactly

2868
02:49:58,732 --> 02:49:59,992
the one I happen to be

2869
02:50:00,044 --> 02:50:03,264
running. Take a look at it on nvidia spark arena.com

2870
02:50:03,264 --> 02:50:07,264
slash leaderboard. I'm getting around 110 tokens per second TG

2871
02:50:07,264 --> 02:50:10,224
on mine and it's a very capable model indeed. The

2872
02:50:10,224 --> 02:50:12,774
trick to get any model to perform well is to

2873
02:50:12,774 --> 02:50:16,714
build and use a harness and deterministic gateways. I built

2874
02:50:16,714 --> 02:50:19,234
a custom harness for Hermes Or as we say in

2875
02:50:19,234 --> 02:50:23,214
the fashion world, Hermes. Without those, the smaller models are

2876
02:50:23,214 --> 02:50:26,744
incapable of running long sessions to handle complex tasks. Even

2877
02:50:26,744 --> 02:50:29,044
the larger models don't work well without them. From a

2878
02:50:29,044 --> 02:50:31,484
brother in Christ, God bless. And I would like my

2879
02:50:31,484 --> 02:50:33,954
knight, God bless you to you. I would like my

2880
02:50:33,954 --> 02:50:36,294
knight name to be Sir Dude Name Ben Name Tim

2881
02:50:36,294 --> 02:50:41,004
of the Inland Northwest. No jingles, no karma. Dr. Don

2882
02:50:41,004 --> 02:50:45,744
and Dame Audra come in with 333.88 from Cupertino, California.

2883
02:50:46,504 --> 02:50:49,434
Dear Adam, Dana, and Dvorak back office, for the last

2884
02:50:49,434 --> 02:50:53,024
few years, I've resorted to handing John envelopes of cash

2885
02:50:53,024 --> 02:50:56,254
at meetups hosted by Sir Recalcitrant Crazy Steve, but could

2886
02:50:56,254 --> 02:50:58,924
miss the opportunity to join the Order of the Ants

2887
02:50:58,924 --> 02:51:01,324
and be an executive producer on an episode with Dana

2888
02:51:01,324 --> 02:51:05,334
Burnetti, the associate executive producer who was also co-hosting. Yes,

2889
02:51:05,334 --> 02:51:07,674
indeed. Dana, we all missed you at the last meetup

2890
02:51:07,674 --> 02:51:11,244
in honor of John at Pizzeria Violetta. Ah, this is,

2891
02:51:11,244 --> 02:51:13,434
now I know who they are. I was going to

2892
02:51:13,434 --> 02:51:16,504
give you one of the infamous Steve Jobs dollar coins,

2893
02:51:16,504 --> 02:51:18,544
but gave it to Mimi because she assured me she'd

2894
02:51:18,544 --> 02:51:21,624
get it to you. Adam, send me your PO Box

2895
02:51:21,624 --> 02:51:24,144
address. I'll ship one off to you as well. 1849

2896
02:51:24,144 --> 02:51:28,194
Fredericksburg, Texas. Thank you, Adam, for continuing the best podcast

2897
02:51:28,194 --> 02:51:30,884
in the universe. Dame Audra and I particularly enjoyed the

2898
02:51:30,884 --> 02:51:33,214
episode with J. Cal. Who knew the dweeb from Tech

2899
02:51:33,214 --> 02:51:35,564
TV would turn out to be such a great co-host?

2900
02:51:35,564 --> 02:51:40,024
Yes, he's coming back on the 20th and the 27th.

2901
02:51:40,044 --> 02:51:42,224
We've continued to pray for you and your family. Thank

2902
02:51:42,224 --> 02:51:45,964
you. Congratulations, Grandpop, the Horowitz and Dvorak families, and the

2903
02:51:45,964 --> 02:51:48,804
entire menagerie of the No Agenda producers impacted by the

2904
02:51:48,804 --> 02:51:51,384
loss of the great GACD. I've attached a rare photo

2905
02:51:51,384 --> 02:51:54,134
of John presenting me with a PhD in media deconstruction

2906
02:51:54,134 --> 02:51:57,444
back in 2024. It's always fun to see how people

2907
02:51:57,444 --> 02:52:00,424
react when I, a blind guy, introduce myself as a

2908
02:52:00,424 --> 02:52:04,564
doctor. it always confuses and scares the hell out of

2909
02:52:04,564 --> 02:52:07,104
them. Thank you for your courage. Kindest regards, Dr. Don

2910
02:52:07,104 --> 02:52:11,074
and Dame Audra. And he, uh, they want, uh, let's

2911
02:52:11,074 --> 02:52:18,044
see. Uh... jingles jcd no sweat off my balls r2d2

2912
02:52:18,044 --> 02:52:21,674
karma and you've got prayers it's no sweat off my

2913
02:52:21,674 --> 02:52:36,774
balls You've got Karma. You've got prayers. And coming in

2914
02:52:36,774 --> 02:52:41,144
with 33333, it is the Grand Duke himself, Grand Duke

2915
02:52:41,144 --> 02:52:44,044
Sir Nussbaum. Thank you very much, and good to hear

2916
02:52:44,044 --> 02:52:49,744
from you. Sir Justin Karsk of Jobber's Canyon, 33333. I

2917
02:52:49,744 --> 02:52:52,844
love that Rob signs off with, Long live JCD. Proud

2918
02:52:52,844 --> 02:52:54,284
to be a member of the Order of the Ant.

2919
02:52:54,624 --> 02:52:58,074
No jingles, no karma, but Lord knows I could use

2920
02:52:58,074 --> 02:53:01,824
a double tap prayers if you got it. Sir Justin

2921
02:53:01,824 --> 02:53:06,814
Karsk of Jobber's Canyon. He's manimal in the chats. Okay,

2922
02:53:06,814 --> 02:53:10,254
so yeah, we could do two of those. You've got

2923
02:53:10,254 --> 02:53:22,204
prayers. You've got prayers. You've got prayers. Sir Luca comes

2924
02:53:22,204 --> 02:53:27,864
in from Savosa. Oh, that's Switzerland. Yes, 333.33. After hiding

2925
02:53:27,864 --> 02:53:31,434
my castrating baronet status for three years because I was

2926
02:53:31,434 --> 02:53:34,614
ashamed of it. I finally reached baron status. I would

2927
02:53:34,614 --> 02:53:37,984
like to claim the territory of Switzerland as my protectorate,

2928
02:53:37,984 --> 02:53:40,074
if available. I believe it is. I promise I won't

2929
02:53:40,074 --> 02:53:43,904
let Switzerland fall into the diabolic, commie, Nazi, dark powers

2930
02:53:43,904 --> 02:53:46,894
of the European Soviet Union that surrounds us. That sounds

2931
02:53:46,894 --> 02:53:49,144
like a good deal. I would like to be known

2932
02:53:49,144 --> 02:53:52,204
as Baron Trump. which will surely piss off all the

2933
02:53:52,204 --> 02:53:54,624
libtards who will hear my name. This donation is for

2934
02:53:54,624 --> 02:53:57,994
my 56th birthday on September 11th. Miss you, JCD, and

2935
02:53:57,994 --> 02:54:00,204
thank you, Adam, for keeping the show going, Sir Luca.

2936
02:54:00,704 --> 02:54:06,764
Dame Becky, Katy, Texas, 33333. And let me see. Her

2937
02:54:06,764 --> 02:54:08,974
note here, she sent in a paper note in the

2938
02:54:08,974 --> 02:54:11,404
morning and closed the donation in honor of my smoking

2939
02:54:11,404 --> 02:54:14,404
out husband, Sir Mike, as we celebrate our 54th wedding

2940
02:54:14,404 --> 02:54:18,384
anniversary on September 17th. And they never had a fight.

2941
02:54:18,824 --> 02:54:20,904
I can't think of a better gift than the order

2942
02:54:20,904 --> 02:54:24,844
of the ant. We can't stand those six-legged bastards, especially

2943
02:54:24,844 --> 02:54:28,264
the fire ants here in Southeast Texas. Happy belated birthday,

2944
02:54:28,264 --> 02:54:32,944
Adam. We sure miss JCD. No jingles, no karma. Becky

2945
02:54:32,944 --> 02:54:36,904
Kenny, Baroness of the Great Katy Prairie in Katy, Texas.

2946
02:54:37,994 --> 02:54:44,124
Then we have, let me see, Sir 10 CFR 50B,

2947
02:54:44,124 --> 02:54:48,094
Baronet of the Palouse from Iowa. And also sends a

2948
02:54:48,094 --> 02:54:51,324
note with 333 in the morning, Adam and Dvorak clan.

2949
02:54:51,444 --> 02:54:53,744
It pains me to think that I have delayed donating

2950
02:54:53,744 --> 02:54:55,874
for so long as others have stated. I was shocked

2951
02:54:55,874 --> 02:54:58,534
at how John's passing affected me. Took me almost three

2952
02:54:58,534 --> 02:55:01,184
weeks to finish listening to the first tribute show due

2953
02:55:01,184 --> 02:55:03,334
to the sorrow I felt. Hope you all find a

2954
02:55:03,334 --> 02:55:06,064
way to continue the show. That said, I'm getting back

2955
02:55:06,064 --> 02:55:08,334
on the path to my barren title with this Order

2956
02:55:08,334 --> 02:55:11,374
of the Ant donation. I request the nightlist to be

2957
02:55:11,374 --> 02:55:14,964
updated to show my relocation from Oregon to northern Idaho

2958
02:55:14,964 --> 02:55:18,214
and dropping of my current title, Baronet of the Willamette

2959
02:55:18,214 --> 02:55:22,354
Valley, to the new title. Regards, Stu, Sir 10 CFR

2960
02:55:22,354 --> 02:55:27,294
50B, Baronet of the Palouse. I should know what 10

2961
02:55:27,294 --> 02:55:33,154
CFR 50B means, I'm sure. Matthew Farrell, Leland, North Carolina,

2962
02:55:33,154 --> 02:55:40,124
33333. John Whidden from Kodiak, Alaska. 275 86 happy blade

2963
02:55:40,124 --> 02:55:43,494
birthday to adam 62 plus 200 for the best podcast

2964
02:55:43,494 --> 02:55:46,984
in the universe and fees listening from kodiak island home

2965
02:55:46,984 --> 02:55:49,724
of the kodiak bear and the u.s coast guard men

2966
02:55:49,724 --> 02:55:53,204
and women who protect the last frontier john whidden retired

2967
02:55:53,204 --> 02:55:57,284
helicopter pilot thank you Oh, there's Rob, the constitutional lawyer.

2968
02:55:57,664 --> 02:56:02,694
Hello, Rob from Spring Branch, Texas. $260.33. Dear Adam et

2969
02:56:02,694 --> 02:56:07,844
al., please accept today's switcheroo donation of $260.33, which should

2970
02:56:07,844 --> 02:56:11,304
be credited to my wife of 33 years, Maggie Cardy.

2971
02:56:11,774 --> 02:56:14,754
This will bring her to damehood, accounting below. We trust

2972
02:56:14,754 --> 02:56:17,924
you, Rob. She doesn't know about any of this. Uh-oh.

2973
02:56:18,344 --> 02:56:25,454
Oh, man, how about that? Uh... So for now, please

2974
02:56:25,454 --> 02:56:29,104
dub her Dame Maggie, Secret Dame of the Lake. For

2975
02:56:29,104 --> 02:56:34,514
the roundtable, please provide Domino's Margarita Pizza and Dom Perignon

2976
02:56:34,514 --> 02:56:37,504
of any vintage. Ah, this is where we need JCD.

2977
02:56:38,264 --> 02:56:42,204
I would say 1996 is a good year. For jingles,

2978
02:56:42,204 --> 02:56:45,104
please play JCD's No Sweat Off My Balls. Hey, that's

2979
02:56:45,104 --> 02:56:47,514
the second one today. And wash your hands, both of

2980
02:56:47,514 --> 02:56:49,954
which I will send to Adam under separate cover since

2981
02:56:49,954 --> 02:56:52,394
the latter is a rare jingle indeed. To date, I've

2982
02:56:52,394 --> 02:56:55,664
made my wife an associate executive producer, an executive producer,

2983
02:56:55,664 --> 02:57:00,094
and now a no-agenda dame. Your move, Brunetti. It's No

2984
02:57:00,094 --> 02:57:04,394
Sweat Off My Balls. Wash your hands more often than

2985
02:57:04,394 --> 02:57:08,584
you ever dreamed possible. What is this? Wash your hands.

2986
02:57:09,064 --> 02:57:12,154
Wash, wash, wash, wash, wash your hands. That was the

2987
02:57:12,154 --> 02:57:16,644
end of show mix of it. All right. He actually

2988
02:57:16,644 --> 02:57:19,744
sent me, he did send me those jingles. I thought

2989
02:57:19,744 --> 02:57:21,764
I had them. But he sent them to me as

2990
02:57:21,764 --> 02:57:24,344
a windmail.dat. Have you ever heard that? Have you ever

2991
02:57:24,344 --> 02:57:28,884
had that happen? Thank you, Microsoft Outlook. Thank you, Rob.

2992
02:57:28,984 --> 02:57:33,614
And congratulations, Maggie. Manuka Gold, Hudson, Florida, $250. ITM from

2993
02:57:33,614 --> 02:57:37,364
ManukaGold.com. Thank you, Adam. Love the print story on Thursday.

2994
02:57:37,484 --> 02:57:40,164
We, too, have been to Paisley Park. Huh. Definitely worth

2995
02:57:40,164 --> 02:57:42,564
the drive from Florida. And happy autumn to our No

2996
02:57:42,564 --> 02:57:46,164
Agenda family. Just a reminder that nothing levels up warm,

2997
02:57:46,164 --> 02:57:49,644
spicy drinks better than our Be Well Manuka Honey Blend

2998
02:57:49,644 --> 02:57:53,664
with ginger, turmeric, and lemongrass. Don't forget to use code

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02:57:53,664 --> 02:58:00,754
ADAM20 at checkout. Sklazen Hot Sauce, Lancaster, South Carolina, 212

3000
02:58:00,754 --> 02:58:04,654
ITM. Here's the sales so far from the in memory

3001
02:58:04,654 --> 02:58:08,354
of JCD bottles as promised. Wow, that's great. Plus a

3002
02:58:08,354 --> 02:58:11,354
few bucks to get my note read. We're overwhelmed by

3003
02:58:11,354 --> 02:58:15,214
the support we received from No Agenda Nation and wanted

3004
02:58:15,214 --> 02:58:20,284
to update that only 13 bottles remain from this special

3005
02:58:20,284 --> 02:58:26,184
offering at www.sclazin.com. I N dot com slash JCD for

3006
02:58:26,184 --> 02:58:29,394
those and other fun little packaging options. Additionally, I'll take

3007
02:58:29,394 --> 02:58:31,624
another one of those prayer jingles. If you can spare

3008
02:58:31,624 --> 02:58:34,064
it. Well, of course we can spare that. We always

3009
02:58:34,064 --> 02:58:41,273
have that ready for you. You've got it. Prayers. Also,

3010
02:58:41,273 --> 02:58:45,654
I forgot to thank Small Batch Steve from smallbatchsteve.com. He

3011
02:58:45,654 --> 02:58:50,954
sent a whole bunch of his taco seasoning. He has

3012
02:58:50,954 --> 02:58:54,184
a whole bunch of interesting seasoning options. And we had

3013
02:58:54,184 --> 02:58:57,804
it last night on our taco meet, an outstanding product.

3014
02:58:58,124 --> 02:59:05,604
It's smallbatchsteve.com. Oh, this is the Kalapuya meetup. Kalapuya in

3015
02:59:05,604 --> 02:59:09,174
Albany, Oregon. $205. I don't have a note, nor do

3016
02:59:09,174 --> 02:59:11,844
I seem to have a meetup report from y'all, but

3017
02:59:11,844 --> 02:59:15,674
thank you. Robert Anderson, Austin, Texas, $200. No note. And

3018
02:59:15,674 --> 02:59:19,564
there's Linda Lupatkin. from Castle Rock, Colorado with $200. She

3019
02:59:19,564 --> 02:59:22,304
wants jobs, Karma, and says, hey, you know, AI can

3020
02:59:22,304 --> 02:59:25,384
write your resume. The problem is, It can write everyone

3021
02:59:25,384 --> 02:59:29,044
else's too. Linda helps professionals and executives figure out what

3022
02:59:29,044 --> 02:59:32,734
makes them different, what makes them valuable, and turns that

3023
02:59:32,734 --> 02:59:35,664
value into a resume that gets results. You need to

3024
02:59:35,664 --> 02:59:39,684
go to ImageMakersInc.com. That's ImageMakersInc with a K. And Linda

3025
02:59:39,684 --> 02:59:43,004
Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes, because

3026
02:59:43,004 --> 02:59:46,664
your resume should do more than just look good. jobs

3027
02:59:46,664 --> 02:59:56,854
jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs karma Up

3028
02:59:56,854 --> 02:59:59,684
next, we have Christopher Coates.

3029
03:00:00,020 --> 03:00:03,990
E-H-O-A-T, Coat, I believe, from Mansfield, Texas, 200. Please de-douche

3030
03:00:03,990 --> 03:00:08,540
me. That was not a de-douching. Hold on. Where's my

3031
03:00:08,540 --> 03:00:18,410
de-douche? You've been de-douched. Everyone should play more tennis. That's

3032
03:00:18,410 --> 03:00:22,420
the note. Please play They're Eating the Dogs. They're eating

3033
03:00:22,420 --> 03:00:28,830
the dogs. There you go. Uh, Scotty K, Lakeshore, Minnesota,

3034
03:00:28,830 --> 03:00:31,390
200. In the morning till you get more nation. This

3035
03:00:31,390 --> 03:00:34,310
is Scotty K, your AI whisperer. Ah, yes. I wanted

3036
03:00:34,310 --> 03:00:36,590
to take a minute to tell you about my incredible

3037
03:00:36,590 --> 03:00:38,950
AI project. This is a value for value project. So

3038
03:00:38,950 --> 03:00:42,100
listen up. You know, AI are like wild horses, beautiful,

3039
03:00:42,100 --> 03:00:44,660
intelligent, but hard to control. You won't just hop on

3040
03:00:44,660 --> 03:00:47,200
one without a bridle, a harness, or at least a

3041
03:00:47,200 --> 03:00:50,960
rope. Bot Commander is an AI harness. It's designed to

3042
03:00:50,960 --> 03:00:54,530
keep your AI in check. Bot Commander is the world's

3043
03:00:54,530 --> 03:00:57,980
first AI harness to adopt the value for value model.

3044
03:00:58,540 --> 03:01:02,140
It's an extensive all-in-one business tool and it's free. You

3045
03:01:02,140 --> 03:01:05,380
can save hundreds by replacing all kinds of software subscriptions.

3046
03:01:06,060 --> 03:01:13,010
Bot Commander, get it free today at botcom.ai, B-O-T-C-O-M.A-I. That's

3047
03:01:13,010 --> 03:01:16,430
botcom.ai with a B from boy. Sure, I could make

3048
03:01:16,430 --> 03:01:18,590
more money as a butcher, but where's the fun in

3049
03:01:18,590 --> 03:01:22,320
that? And remember, don't you eat the yellow snow. P.S.

3050
03:01:22,320 --> 03:01:24,140
Loving the tunes, Adam. Got to feel good to get

3051
03:01:24,140 --> 03:01:27,140
back in the saddle, huh? It does kind of. Yes.

3052
03:01:27,580 --> 03:01:30,540
I love that he's doing software as value for value.

3053
03:01:30,620 --> 03:01:32,140
So check it out. And if you get any value

3054
03:01:32,140 --> 03:01:34,700
out of it, I should probably check it out myself.

3055
03:01:34,900 --> 03:01:37,160
I use harnesses. I'd like to see how his harness

3056
03:01:37,160 --> 03:01:41,790
works. Show me your harness. Mary from us as Candido

3057
03:01:41,790 --> 03:01:44,260
that by the way is our wraps up our executive

3058
03:01:44,260 --> 03:01:47,930
and associate executive producers for episode 1903 as always you

3059
03:01:47,930 --> 03:01:51,020
get credits for these these are real credits $200 or

3060
03:01:51,020 --> 03:01:54,180
more is an associate executive producer 300 or more is

3061
03:01:54,180 --> 03:01:57,590
an executive producer these are real Hollywood credits just like

3062
03:01:57,590 --> 03:01:59,730
the one that Dana Brunetti has you can go to

3063
03:01:59,730 --> 03:02:02,100
imdb.com you'll see him in the next episode. there and

3064
03:02:02,100 --> 03:02:04,220
you can add your name and thank you for supporting

3065
03:02:04,220 --> 03:02:07,870
the show our formula is this we go out we

3066
03:02:07,870 --> 03:02:18,600
hit people in the mouth - What else? Shut up!

3067
03:02:20,000 --> 03:02:23,410
Shut up. Now the rest of the Value for Value

3068
03:02:23,410 --> 03:02:29,170
supporters, $50 and above. Mary from Escondido, California, 11, 111

3069
03:02:29,170 --> 03:02:33,130
and 88. Nice number. Thank you. Christopher Ebert, Spartanburg, South

3070
03:02:33,130 --> 03:02:37,950
Carolina, 105, 35. Ryan Tierney from Stephen City, Virginia, 88,

3071
03:02:37,950 --> 03:02:42,520
88. Clearly for JCD. Dame Teresa Martine from California. Camarillo,

3072
03:02:42,520 --> 03:02:47,230
California, $88.88. Sir Kevin McLaughlin, the Archduke of Luna, lover

3073
03:02:47,230 --> 03:02:51,500
of American boobs from Concord, North Carolina, $80.08. Put it

3074
03:02:51,500 --> 03:02:54,240
in the calculator. You'll get it. Thank you very much,

3075
03:02:54,240 --> 03:03:00,100
Archduke. Girage. uh sir sir juraj i think from czechoslovakia

3076
03:03:00,100 --> 03:03:03,770
also with the boob donation uh itm birthday present for

3077
03:03:03,770 --> 03:03:06,970
myself september 8th thanks for the great work sir juraj

3078
03:03:06,970 --> 03:03:09,800
indeed and there's sir kevin mclaughlin again oh of course

3079
03:03:09,800 --> 03:03:12,320
for two shows uh eighty dollars and eight cents once

3080
03:03:12,320 --> 03:03:15,490
again the archduke of luna lover of america and boobs

3081
03:03:15,490 --> 03:03:18,350
and he came in a third time Wow, thank you,

3082
03:03:18,350 --> 03:03:22,540
Archduke. Joseph Stegman, Thousand Oaks, California, with a boob donation.

3083
03:03:22,700 --> 03:03:27,030
There's Dame Reader from Sparks, Nevada, with $68.33. She says,

3084
03:03:27,030 --> 03:03:30,300
thank you for your courage. Colin Schultz, Willow Spring, North

3085
03:03:30,300 --> 03:03:35,460
Carolina, $66.40. And he says, listen to basic instructions before

3086
03:03:35,460 --> 03:03:40,400
leaving Earth. A value for value Bible study podcast. I

3087
03:03:40,400 --> 03:03:43,880
S B I B L E basic instructions before leaving

3088
03:03:43,880 --> 03:03:47,400
earth. I shall check it out. Colin, Steven Shoemake, Xenia,

3089
03:03:47,500 --> 03:03:51,550
Ohio, 6480. Lester Kowski comes in twice from Kingman, Arizona

3090
03:03:51,550 --> 03:03:55,000
with a small boob, $60 and six cents. Christopher Dexter,

3091
03:03:55,280 --> 03:04:00,100
six, five, six, seven, eight. Brittany Miller, Trinidad, Colorado, 52.72.

3092
03:04:00,340 --> 03:04:05,270
Luke Minnell from Los Angeles, California, 52.72. Josiah Thomas, Ankeny,

3093
03:04:05,270 --> 03:04:09,420
Iowa, 51. Bad Idea Supply comes in with double nickels

3094
03:04:09,420 --> 03:04:11,900
and 50 cents, so it's not on the dime. And

3095
03:04:11,900 --> 03:04:16,280
here's the 50s. Gretchen Angel, Monrovia, California. Edward Mazarek, Edward

3096
03:04:16,280 --> 03:04:22,410
Mazarek from Memphis, Tennessee. ray from spokane washington roderick brown

3097
03:04:22,410 --> 03:04:27,480
from mermaid prince edward island in canada Stephen Shoemake again

3098
03:04:27,480 --> 03:04:31,680
from Zeni, Ohio, with 50. Tim DelVecchio in Blandon, Pennsylvania.

3099
03:04:32,140 --> 03:04:35,980
Gary Mao from Woodland Hills, California. Dane Patricia Worthington from

3100
03:04:35,980 --> 03:04:40,230
Miami. Brandon Savoie from Port Orchard, Washington. And winding up

3101
03:04:40,230 --> 03:04:44,230
our 50s, Jason Deluzio, Miami Beach, Florida. Thank you all

3102
03:04:44,230 --> 03:04:47,080
so much. This really helps the Curry and Dvorak families

3103
03:04:47,080 --> 03:04:50,870
continue the journey. the show. It is highly appreciated. Just

3104
03:04:50,870 --> 03:04:53,860
love the fact that you continue to support everything. Thank

3105
03:04:53,860 --> 03:04:57,440
you so much. You can go to noagendedonations.com. That's where

3106
03:04:57,440 --> 03:05:00,340
you can support the show with any type of donation,

3107
03:05:00,340 --> 03:05:03,020
any amount. There's multiple ways to do it. I think

3108
03:05:03,020 --> 03:05:06,810
Stripe even does Venmo maybe, and you can do Apple

3109
03:05:06,810 --> 03:05:09,140
Pay, and Lord knows what you can do, and you

3110
03:05:09,140 --> 03:05:11,770
can set up a recurring donation, which means just like

3111
03:05:11,770 --> 03:05:14,540
some of the of the Archduke of Luna people who

3112
03:05:14,540 --> 03:05:17,920
do the same donation every single show. You can do

3113
03:05:17,920 --> 03:05:20,320
it whenever you want, any amount, any frequency. Go to

3114
03:05:20,320 --> 03:05:29,400
noagenthedonations.com. Thank you for your courage and support. And the

3115
03:05:29,400 --> 03:05:33,510
birthday, September 8th, was Sir Juraj from Czechoslovakia. Dame Alison

3116
03:05:33,510 --> 03:05:36,970
House of Ostrich and Sir Tony of Dimples wished their

3117
03:05:36,970 --> 03:05:40,300
son, Bumi, a happy birthday. Turned 6 on September 10th.

3118
03:05:40,540 --> 03:05:44,440
Sir Luca turned 56 on September 11th. And Sir Doherty

3119
03:05:44,440 --> 03:05:47,040
says happy birthday to Sir Not Jake. It was his

3120
03:05:47,040 --> 03:05:50,500
birthday on September 13th. That is today. Happy birthday from...

3121
03:05:50,500 --> 03:06:03,300
everybody here the best podcast in the universe Night's changing

3122
03:06:03,400 --> 03:06:06,220
don't want to be in douchebag. And there is that

3123
03:06:06,220 --> 03:06:09,800
upgrade, the dreaded upgrade to the name that the libtards

3124
03:06:09,800 --> 03:06:12,660
will hate. Sir Luca supported the show with an additional

3125
03:06:12,660 --> 03:06:16,960
$1,000 and we can therefore call him Baron Trump. He

3126
03:06:16,960 --> 03:06:20,380
moved up from baronet status. Thank you very much, good

3127
03:06:20,380 --> 03:06:23,800
sir and good baron. And now, let me see, where

3128
03:06:23,800 --> 03:06:26,900
did I put these things? I thought I put them

3129
03:06:26,900 --> 03:06:30,360
over here where'd they go where did my order of

3130
03:06:30,360 --> 03:06:35,220
the ant go I thought well this is odd oh

3131
03:06:35,220 --> 03:06:37,700
I know what I did I put that on the

3132
03:06:37,700 --> 03:06:42,410
mobile rig order of the ant Yeah, this should do

3133
03:06:42,410 --> 03:06:46,370
it. Get ready, we got new people entering the Order

3134
03:06:46,370 --> 03:06:54,020
of the Ants! 33.33 Order of the Ant gets you

3135
03:06:54,020 --> 03:06:56,020
into the Order of the Ant I have seen the

3136
03:06:56,020 --> 03:07:00,060
packaging by the way, had a conversation with Jay in

3137
03:07:00,060 --> 03:07:02,960
the back office you get a certificate with your Order

3138
03:07:02,960 --> 03:07:04,720
of the Ant pin if you haven't seen them, they

3139
03:07:04,720 --> 03:07:06,400
were in the newsletter I think she may have put

3140
03:07:06,400 --> 03:07:10,260
them on the website noagendarings.com it's a beautiful looking pin

3141
03:07:10,260 --> 03:07:15,700
and And the certificate includes my and JCD's signature. That

3142
03:07:15,700 --> 03:07:17,810
would be the last time you can ever get a

3143
03:07:17,810 --> 03:07:21,860
certificate with JCD's signature on it. We thought about it.

3144
03:07:21,920 --> 03:07:25,140
We said, yeah, it absolutely belongs on there. So congratulations.

3145
03:07:25,140 --> 03:07:27,460
Welcome to the order of the Aunt Baron Tommy Hawk

3146
03:07:27,460 --> 03:07:32,360
of the Heartland Anonymous. Randy, by the way, Anonymous, we'll

3147
03:07:32,360 --> 03:07:36,060
send it to you. Don't worry. Randy Filkins, Adam Banks,

3148
03:07:36,060 --> 03:07:41,540
Jamie Forsyth, Megan Klein, Thomas Blowers, Tim Erlinson, Dr. Don,

3149
03:07:41,540 --> 03:07:47,820
Archduke Nussbaum, Sir Justin Karsk of Jobbers Canyon, Sir Lucas,

3150
03:07:47,820 --> 03:07:51,650
Sir Mike, Sir 10 CFR 50B, Baronet of the Palouse,

3151
03:07:51,650 --> 03:07:54,370
and Matthew Farrell. All of you are now members of

3152
03:07:54,370 --> 03:07:58,040
the... Order of the End. Congratulations. Order of the End.

3153
03:08:00,400 --> 03:08:03,580
And thank you. Again, noagendarings.com is where you can see

3154
03:08:03,580 --> 03:08:06,430
that beautiful pin to become a member of the Order

3155
03:08:06,430 --> 03:08:09,100
of the Ant. And we do have one knight and

3156
03:08:09,100 --> 03:08:12,960
one dame, so I'll grab the blade here. There's just

3157
03:08:12,960 --> 03:08:18,450
one blade these days. Maggie Cardy! Come on, girl. Get

3158
03:08:18,450 --> 03:08:21,470
up on that podium. And Tim Erlinson. Both of you

3159
03:08:21,470 --> 03:08:24,720
now become knight and dame of the No Agenda Roundtable.

3160
03:08:25,100 --> 03:08:27,600
I am very proud to pronounce the KV as Dame

3161
03:08:27,600 --> 03:08:32,190
Maggie, Secret Dame of the Lake. And Tim Erlinson becomes

3162
03:08:32,190 --> 03:08:35,920
Sir Dude Name Ben Name Tim of the Inland Northwest.

3163
03:08:36,280 --> 03:08:38,900
For you at the Roundtable, we have hookers and blows.

3164
03:08:38,900 --> 03:08:43,020
Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Domino's Margarita Pizza, and Dom Perignon

3165
03:08:43,020 --> 03:08:47,120
from 1996. Along with that, we've got some cool goodies,

3166
03:08:47,120 --> 03:08:50,180
Redheads and Rhymes, beers and blunts, cow grills and coffin

3167
03:08:50,180 --> 03:08:53,210
varners, vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider

3168
03:08:53,210 --> 03:08:55,760
and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pavlo

3169
03:08:55,760 --> 03:08:58,240
men. Of course, as always at the round table, we've

3170
03:08:58,240 --> 03:09:00,920
got your mutton and we've got your mead. right here

3171
03:09:00,920 --> 03:09:04,690
and congratulations go to no agenda rings.com make sure that

3172
03:09:04,690 --> 03:09:07,660
we get your ring size and address to send that

3173
03:09:07,660 --> 03:09:10,060
off to and you can display that at the next

3174
03:09:10,060 --> 03:09:12,840
meetup or just around the office at the water cooler

3175
03:09:12,840 --> 03:09:15,260
it could be very fun thank you again for supporting

3176
03:09:15,260 --> 03:09:25,980
the no agenda show no agenda donation.com And we only

3177
03:09:25,980 --> 03:09:28,240
got one meetup report that I could find. It is

3178
03:09:28,240 --> 03:09:33,000
from Fort Wayne. Adam and John, rest in peace. This

3179
03:09:33,000 --> 03:09:34,860
is Fort Wayne. We had a shorter crew of only

3180
03:09:34,860 --> 03:09:36,880
four today, but it was a great turnout, and a

3181
03:09:36,880 --> 03:09:40,790
few of them couldn't make it. Here we go. Hey,

3182
03:09:40,790 --> 03:09:46,380
guys. Jared from Fort Wayne. Hey, it's Shelly. Thank you

3183
03:09:46,380 --> 03:09:52,380
for your courage. It's Michelle. And I suggest for the

3184
03:09:52,380 --> 03:09:54,530
round table that as long as we've had dinner with

3185
03:09:54,530 --> 03:09:57,000
someone at a meetup, that qualifies as having dinner at

3186
03:09:57,000 --> 03:09:59,160
someone's house and being your friend. So we have a

3187
03:09:59,160 --> 03:09:59,980
lot of friends

3188
03:10:00,062 --> 03:10:04,252
Anyway. In the morning! In the morning. In the morning.

3189
03:10:04,872 --> 03:10:08,152
RIP, JCD. See you next month. Adios. All right, boys

3190
03:10:08,152 --> 03:10:10,682
and girls from Fort Wayne. I presume that's Fort Wayne,

3191
03:10:10,682 --> 03:10:14,682
New Jersey. The Fountains of Wayne. As a meetup taking

3192
03:10:14,682 --> 03:10:19,012
place today, let's see, it's underway as we speak. No,

3193
03:10:19,012 --> 03:10:23,232
it's probably almost over. This was the Bromley, excuse me,

3194
03:10:23,232 --> 03:10:28,492
Bromley-Kent UK meetup. That took place in Gitmo East. It's

3195
03:10:28,492 --> 03:10:32,582
the you sound like you're from London meetup. And that

3196
03:10:32,582 --> 03:10:37,092
was the cock and the commoner who organized that. I'm

3197
03:10:37,092 --> 03:10:40,312
sure they'll send a great meetup report. Tuesday, we have

3198
03:10:40,312 --> 03:10:43,372
the No Agenda Scottsdale Round 2 meetup, 6 o'clock at

3199
03:10:43,372 --> 03:10:48,182
Loco Patron Brewery in Scottsdale, Arizona. Thursday, next show day,

3200
03:10:48,182 --> 03:10:51,852
the Las Vegas FEMA Region 9 meetup at 6 o'clock,

3201
03:10:51,852 --> 03:10:56,062
Nevada Brew Works in Las Vegas, Nevada. And let's see,

3202
03:10:56,062 --> 03:11:00,412
also on Thursday, Edge Tavern. That's the Charlotte Thursday, Thursday

3203
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month. meet up seven o'clock at uh in charlotte north

3204
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carolina coming up in the month of december The 18th,

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Central Ohio, Tbilisi, Georgia. I'm looking for meetup reports, people,

3206
03:11:12,402 --> 03:11:16,102
please. And make sure that you also get your servers

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in there. It's always so much fun and promote the

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establishment. On the 19th, King George, Virginia, Petaluma, California, and

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03:11:23,072 --> 03:11:27,512
Wilmington, California. On the 24th, Alpharetta, Georgia, and Anchorage, Alaska,

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and the 27th. 7th, Longview, Texas. Feeling a dirty jersey

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03:11:31,772 --> 03:11:34,122
whore will be a part of that. October looks pretty

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03:11:34,122 --> 03:11:37,662
full. November is filling up. Go to noagentameetups.com. This is

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03:11:37,662 --> 03:11:39,812
where you can find the meetups to hang out with

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03:11:39,812 --> 03:11:42,122
people that you might not meet at your local bar,

3215
03:11:42,122 --> 03:11:44,842
but you will find them at a noagentameetup. These people

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03:11:44,842 --> 03:11:50,762
will bring you connection. This always results in protection. and

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03:11:50,762 --> 03:11:53,592
the people you meet there will be your first responders

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in any emergency. We've had people with lifelong friendships, people

3219
03:11:57,432 --> 03:12:00,242
got married, we've seen kids come out of this, all

3220
03:12:00,242 --> 03:12:02,612
kinds of things happening in No Agenda Meetup. Go to

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03:12:02,612 --> 03:12:08,122
noagendameetups.com if you can't find one yourself, start one, you'll

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03:12:08,122 --> 03:12:11,302
find out how easy it is. Sometimes you want to

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03:12:11,302 --> 03:12:17,902
go hang out with all the nights and days. ♪

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You won't be ♪ ♪ Triggered or held to blame

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03:12:21,762 --> 03:12:28,772
♪ ♪ Everybody feels the same ♪ like a party.

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03:12:29,392 --> 03:12:32,342
I have to say, doing the donations by myself was

3227
03:12:32,342 --> 03:12:36,092
probably the hardest part of the show, not having John

3228
03:12:36,092 --> 03:12:39,472
here. Something about just doing it together that was special.

3229
03:12:39,472 --> 03:12:43,632
♪ So thank you all very much for supporting us

3230
03:12:43,632 --> 03:12:46,752
with your value in return for the value that you

3231
03:12:46,752 --> 03:12:49,902
received here on the No Agenda show. Looking forward to

3232
03:12:49,902 --> 03:12:53,702
Thursday's episode. I think we'll have Sir Ducifer back for

3233
03:12:53,702 --> 03:12:57,232
Thursday. Looking forward to hanging out with him again. Up

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03:12:57,232 --> 03:13:02,872
next on the No Agenda stream... You know, I don't

3235
03:13:02,872 --> 03:13:06,672
know what's up next on the No Agenda stream. Oh,

3236
03:13:06,672 --> 03:13:10,552
yes, I do. Behind the schemes. There you go. In

3237
03:13:10,552 --> 03:13:16,052
the new Sistine Chapel. Well, that's not heretical. Okay. Look

3238
03:13:16,052 --> 03:13:19,352
forward to that. Thank you all for listening live on

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03:13:19,352 --> 03:13:23,372
your modern podcast. That's what you can get at... podcastapps.com.

3240
03:13:23,372 --> 03:13:25,832
Thank you for supporting us. And I look forward to

3241
03:13:25,832 --> 03:13:28,922
Thursday's show. Until then, coming to you from the heart

3242
03:13:28,922 --> 03:13:32,392
of the Texas Hill Country, where we've got wineries all

3243
03:13:32,392 --> 03:13:35,552
over the place here in Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning,

3244
03:13:35,552 --> 03:13:41,512
everybody, I'm Adam Curry. Remember us at noagentedonations.com until Thursday.

3245
03:13:41,512 --> 03:13:47,032
Adios, mofos. hooey, hooey, and such. And thank you, Just

3246
03:13:47,032 --> 03:13:58,172
Baker, for yet another end of show mix. Hmm. Hormuz

3247
03:13:58,172 --> 03:14:16,112
Strait. Or who's freight? Or you wait. The Nuggets ...

3248
03:14:17,212 --> 03:14:19,602
A door you don't take Two miles of water Teaching

3249
03:14:19,602 --> 03:14:21,772
the planet to wait A fifth of the freight In

3250
03:14:21,772 --> 03:14:24,132
the throat they can break War moves late Then the

3251
03:14:24,132 --> 03:14:26,652
war moves the straight More news late From a mouth

3252
03:14:26,652 --> 03:14:29,252
on the take Open on the chyron Closed on the

3253
03:14:29,252 --> 03:14:31,432
wake Oh, who's freight? Get a nigga for an escort

3254
03:14:31,432 --> 03:14:34,292
date Nah, escort the freight Then report it late Iran

3255
03:14:34,292 --> 03:14:36,672
say the gates stay locked As a fate state Say

3256
03:14:36,672 --> 03:14:39,092
they ran four crews Through the strait Saying while the

3257
03:14:39,092 --> 03:14:41,332
two sermons in the tanker that ain't Pinging the map,

3258
03:14:41,332 --> 03:14:44,012
that's a ghost for Who's Freight? Call it Hormuz Freight

3259
03:14:44,012 --> 03:14:46,192
Like the name is a weight Like saying it straight

3260
03:14:46,192 --> 03:14:48,412
Make the barrels behave It don't, it's a door It's

3261
03:14:48,412 --> 03:14:50,222
a weight, it's a raid You pay at the pump

3262
03:14:50,222 --> 03:14:54,392
for a war Who's Freight? Hormuz Freight Who's Freight? More

3263
03:14:54,392 --> 03:14:58,222
news late Are you waiting? War moves late Who's the

3264
03:14:58,222 --> 03:15:21,512
gay? Who owns the fray? Far more. Outro Music ♪♪♪

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Back in the way Back in the way beat so

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03:15:34,432 --> 03:15:37,442
Horm is straight Plan B was a pipe so the

3267
03:15:37,442 --> 03:15:40,182
door couldn't break East West Harlem but the water won't

3268
03:15:40,182 --> 03:15:43,662
take Abcay to that waits to beat the straight. When

3269
03:15:43,662 --> 03:15:53,592
the straight won't wake, then the bop, See birth I

3270
03:15:53,592 --> 03:15:55,562
can't take What the gulf used to pour through the

3271
03:15:55,562 --> 03:16:01,612
straight in the day Bypassed another door More news late

3272
03:16:01,612 --> 03:16:04,192
Both throats in the brake Babs in the mouth Don't

3273
03:16:04,192 --> 03:16:20,312
confuse Oh, harm is straight. More news late. in the

3274
03:16:20,312 --> 03:16:32,182
white farm road fill up eating with the fairway War

3275
03:16:32,182 --> 03:16:35,092
moves late For who's free? You wait More crude way

3276
03:16:35,092 --> 03:16:36,792
Who closed the gate? For a cruise way For a

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03:16:36,792 --> 03:16:49,492
cruise way ♪ So exhausted ♪ ♪ I'm straight, it's

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03:16:49,492 --> 03:17:19,092
a weight ♪ Nobody strayed. You keep saying I can't

3279
03:17:18,040 --> 03:17:20,650
Let's pass if the line can't carry the weight, it

3280
03:17:19,092 --> 03:17:20,012
carry the weight

3281
03:17:20,650 --> 03:17:23,230
dies at the gate. Oh, I'm a stray. Oh, I'm

3282
03:17:23,230 --> 03:17:26,740
a stray. Oh, who's fray? Oh, you's lay. Oh, you's

3283
03:17:26,740 --> 03:17:29,890
lay. Oh, you's way. Oh, you's lay. Who closed the

3284
03:17:29,890 --> 03:18:07,420
gate? Dvorak. slash NA crazy this is crazy