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The American people are on my side on this one,

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Adam. Adam Curry. It's Sunday, September 27th, 2026. This is

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your award-winning Kipo Nation Media assassination episode 1907. This is

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no agenda. It is an agenda. Adam Curry coming to

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you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. Time

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for another media deconstruction. Once again, friend of the show,

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Jason Calacanis, will be joining us for the next two

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hours. That's right. It's no agenda. 1,907. Stay tuned for

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J. Cal joining us in one minute and 13 seconds.

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J. Cal to Ace. Ace. No, it's in the wind.

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Yo, Adam Curry on the left, the pioneer on the

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mic Looking for a co-host who can keep the fire

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tight Enter Jason Calacanis, J. Cal in the building Not

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from NorCal, don't get it twisted, chilling He ain't no

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NorCal, softy sipping oat milk loxias He straight East Coast

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energy Cutting through the static number Adam ever had Let's

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go, let's go, Brudetti scrambling for three We'll be right

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back. The knowledge tech deals in the grind While Curry

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drops the truth bombs Leaving minds behind J. Cal, not

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from NorCal Say it loud, say it clear Different routes,

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same mission Cutting through the fifth Brunetti in the corner

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Not from NorCal Never was, never will Just the best

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damn co-host Running up that bill Adam Curry and J.

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Cal The pair that can't be touched Brunetti and Duke

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Y'all still fighting too much not created by dana brunetti

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oh my goodness i'm telling you man thank you very

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much melody melody melody has given up he used to

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do songs himself he's given up and he's just gone

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the ai route as everybody seems to be going in

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the morning jay cow In the morning to you, Adam.

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In the morning, brother. Thank you for coming back on

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the show. Of course. My pleasure. Dana did a solid

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job last time. I like Dana. Well, we actually now

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have a chat group together, which is kind of extremely

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heterosexual. Three 60 year old men talking about previous victories

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and future conquests. Wait a minute. You're not. How old

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are you, Jacob? 55, 55. Okay. Yeah, he's 53. So.

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Oh, okay. I'm the elder of the group. There you

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go. I'm the elder. Man, we got a lot to

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talk about, but what I like so much this morning,

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first of all, I'm like, J. Cal's going to be

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here. I don't have to worry about it. And then

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I got a text, I'm sorry, an app, as they

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call it in Europe. I got an app, a WhatsApp.

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I got an app. And I'm like, what time? What

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time? Well, you know what happened was you sent the

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calendar invite and had 11. And I was like, oh,

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he doesn't know how to use the calendar. No, no,

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11 – oh yeah you're right yes so i was

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like did he change the time let me just make

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sure i get this i'm a moron you know what

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i got i got i'm gonna give this all to

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my muse robot and make the muse robot do it

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all yes which we'll talk about but so jacal sends

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me a link he's like hey look at this And

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we were both thinking the same thing at the same

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time. Top of the news in the United Kingdom at

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what is it? Fair Ford Royal Air Force Base. There

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was a bomb – I mean, I'm not even sure

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if it's definitely a bomb – if there were bombs

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in the vans that were parked outside. This is like

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the weirdest – bombing very unclear yeah i mean you

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live and then think no one's gonna find that suspicious

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and so the vans are supposedly packed with explosives so

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they evacuate the and i'm seeing this on the quad

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screen i'm seeing the bbc and like and it's still

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on Swift arrests of suspects in RAF Fanford incident. This

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is where the U.S. B-2 bombers are stationed in the

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U.K. And as predicted right away, of course, it can

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only be two things. It can either be Iran. It

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can be Russia. Blah! probably Russia. The BBC security correspondent

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Frank Gardner has the latest. What I can tell you

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is that this was not intelligence-led. So counter-terrorism police, rather

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than say MI5 or GCHQ are the lead in this.

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Britain's counter-terrorism police are the lead on this. The two

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obvious sort of suspects, but I think we've got to

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keep an open mind on this until we know more,

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are Russia and Iran. Why? Because of the context. That's

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not to say it is them. But if you look

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at the context, there have been a number of instances

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of so-called hybrid warfare around Europe this summer. This year,

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in fact, going back several months, arson at warehouses, the

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discovery of three explosive drones at Leipzig Halla Airport that's

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used as a cargo hub for resupplying Ukraine, cyber attacks,

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suspicious drones over sensitive installations, nuclear bases, and so on.

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Ritter had been talking about for two years. Hybrid warfare,

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hybrid warfare. And so this seems like such a –

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is working for us. But he's like the whisperer. Like,

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oh, it's coming. Hybrid warfare, hybrid warfare. So all these

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arson attacks, everything is all Russia. Or is it? And

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the Kremlin attitude, the Moscow's attitude is, look, NATO and

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Britain especially... are essentially waging an indirect war with us

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via Ukraine. So if they're supplying missiles that are hitting

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us, why shouldn't they feel a bit of pain? And

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the Russians have pretty much said, you know, this is

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not going to be cost-free for you guys, but they're

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not revealing what form that sort of retribution is going

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to take. It may not be them. Let's not forget

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that these bases are being used by the U.S. as

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staging posts in their war with Iran. But I think,

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pushing for a peace deal very much on its terms,

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terms that are unacceptable to President Trump. But I think

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it would be a miscalculation by the IRGC if this

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was... them trying to do this. One thing I'm pretty

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sure is that if it's either Iran or Russia, they

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will have used proxies to do this. I very much

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doubt, and I could be proved wrong later today, but

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I very much doubt that the people arrested will be

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Russians or Iranians. So the guys who did it, okay

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they're not russians or iranians but no they're proxies they

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have the proxies of course well it's so cynical there's

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they there's a report five middle eastern looking young man

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running through the trees uh this is not uh one

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person right it's not like a lone wolf situation it's

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a And second, third generation Muslims who have been radicalized

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in the UK could have been flipped, I guess, by

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Iranians. I doubt Russians, though. They can never say this.

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They can never say it. You can't say that. You

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know, I was talking to Christina this morning. We do

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a Sunday podcast. After church, we call up, we want

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to see the baby. We want to see the grandbaby.

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Yes. And she said, oh, Dad, it's so bad here.

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They had... Rotterdam Pride, which is, you know, gay pride

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parade. And, you know, they have canals in Rotterdam, too.

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water. But it was on a bridge. And there were

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a bunch of young, I'm going to probably say... Moroccan

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guys on the fat bikes you know have you ever

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seen these fat bikes yeah basically they're like uh e-bikes

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that can go 35 miles an hour you don't need

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a license maybe you do need a license yeah exactly

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no they're crazy so these kids are dangerous on these

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on these fat bikes So they're standing on either a

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bridge or an overpass, and they're spitting on everybody down

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below. And so Christina's friend says, hey, that's not very

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nice. They turn around, spit in her face. Christina says...

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It's like, Dad, all I hear around here is Arabic.

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It's like, get my grandbaby her U.S. passport and let's

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get you over here. It's ending. The world is figuring

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out what like unmitigated – immigration means, you know, and

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the people to watch is Japan. They're very on top

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of this. They need to have immigration, but they –

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They do not let people not assimilate. So if you

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try to create, like, Chinatown or Little Italy or, you

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know, Little Tehran, whatever little, you know, charming… neighborhood you

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want to create, they say, no, you can't do that.

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You're in Japan. You could have a ton of Italians

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come. We could have a ton of Chinese come. But

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you can't make your own area. Still Japan. Got to

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keep it as Japan. So they're very hardcore about if

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you're coming to Japan, you're assimilating to Japan, and they

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keep raising the stakes, but people still want to go

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there. So if you... agree to like invest $200,000 and

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have one employee, you can come and you know, with

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an economic visa. If you want to come now, you

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have to know the language. And I think that's going

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to be the key that you'll see all Western countries

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go to. which is you have to learn the language.

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You have to learn the language. If you don't learn

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the language on the way in and somebody else does,

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well, then that person should get first shot at legal

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immigration. It's pretty common sense if you think about it.

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That's the one thing people forget about President Trump is

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he locked that stuff down, changed that. Now they're mad

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about other things. Of course, got to be mad about

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something. And it's funny because I'm still watching the West

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Wing. We're now on season seven. Everything Trump has done

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in his two administrations, President Jed Bartlett, a.k.a. Martin Sheen,

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did on the West Wing. And then it was, oh,

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yes, great, strong president. This is fantastic, including assassinating a

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foreign head of state. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. 20 years

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ago, I was at the Milken conference, not to go

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like full Illuminati. It's not like a crazy hard conference.

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Did you have to get naked and run around in

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the woods? No, no. I think that's the bohemian grove,

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which is extremely alpha and heterosexual, even though it's only

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men in the woods in loincloths. Don't worry. I have

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friends who are part of it. They're like, please don't

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discuss it on the pod. Please don't talk about it

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on the podcast. And I'm like, Dvorak went there. Dvorak

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talked about it frequently. He's like, ah, it was lame.

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It was no good. I'm like, did you go to

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the right one? I mean, it doesn't seem like it.

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It is definitely in, I think... The lame category because

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of this. It might be a fine thing to go

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to, but because they try to make it this cloak

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and dagger thing, it's like, oh, come on. But anyway,

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I'm at this thing and they Milken would have these

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economists come on, you know, business leaders, and they would

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always ask the question like, hey, what worries you? This

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is before P. Doom of AI. And I remember watching

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Rupert Murdoch. And he's like, what worries me 20 years

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ago is radical Islam in Europe. People are not integrating.

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Islam. And letting people assimilate, and those people are not

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assimilating. So you have this really difficult situation where you

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have Muslims coming to Paris. The Parisians are like, you're

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never going to be French. You cannot be French in

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our mind. Then you're second generation, third generation, and you

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live and you're French, and you have a French passport.

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But you're not accepted as French. And this led to,

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like he said, this is going to just lead to

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all kinds of crazy terrorism, etc., which is exactly what

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happened in France. Charlie Hebdo, etc. Well, the difference, of

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course, with immigration to France is a lot of these

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African countries, they speak French already. So there's a leg

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up there. But really, the Netherlands never had the quote-unquote

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Muslim problem. You know, they've had, they had first, they

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had the Moluccas, and they had the Surinams, and they

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had the Turks. And the Turks are now fully integrated,

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but it's the Moroccans. The Moroccans are the one, I

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don't think, I mean, they're changing, they're changing everything. You

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know, people get very frustrated. Worried about the United States,

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certainly Texas. I mean, there's four million Muslims living in

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America. The problem is they organize well around political campaigns

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and they're getting candidates in. Whereas the obvious group that

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should be pushing back on this and running for office

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and voting are Christians. You know, there's 80, 90 million

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Christians in America. Only 40 million vote. The other's like,

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eh, it'll be okay. And I don't have to worry

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about it. What? There was an election? So, you know,

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that's on us. Yeah, the... The, what do they call

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it, suicidal empathy, you know, there's a very small percentage

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of Muslims who are not modernized, like Christians became modernized,

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don't read the books, like literally, you don't have to

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stone people to death if they… have a commit of

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sin, etc. So it's a small number that are still

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radicalized when they come to the West, but it's 10%

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according to Pew. If you go to Pew Studies, they

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do these studies everywhere. And like some, you know, belief

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that a suicide vest is a valid form of protest

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if you just look at the pew studies it's like

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it's only five or ten or fifteen percent of people

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in different muslims communities believe that that is a acceptable

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form of protest. Problem is 1.5 billion Muslims is a

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large number, so 10% of that is 150 million people

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who believe putting on a suicide vest and running into

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a crowd and blowing people up is an acceptable form

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of protest. And just sorting that out and making sure

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when you accept people into your country, they're actually assimilated.

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And then on the other side, in the West, people

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are like, assimilation is racist. It's like, okay. Yeah. Guys,

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we have to have something between these two extremes. Assimilation

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is like a great thing. You're choosing to come to

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that country. You weren't forced to come to that country.

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You chose to come to that country, so assimilate into

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that country. If I went to live in Tokyo or

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if I went to live into, I don't know, Barcelona,

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I would try to embrace the culture, not change it

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radically. Yeah, but the culture… The culture of Barcelona is

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now Muslim. What are you talking about?

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You'd have to be a part of that. I'm going

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to go back to Russia for a second because all

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the mainstream, all the M5M is in on this. It's

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interesting to hear that guy on the BBC talk about

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NATO countries. Well, no, it's really European countries who are

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fighting Russia. We're not fighting them. We're selling the goods,

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for sure. And we started it. Thank you very much,

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Victoria and Newland. But PBS NewsHour, they know what to

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do. They need to, they are ratcheting it up. I

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had the Latvian foreign minister, Baybra Brase, on the show

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last week, someone you worked with at NATO. And she

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said that while European intelligence services were are indeed concerned

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about these sabotage attacks and the attacks themselves might escalate.

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There's no immediate military threat to NATO 'cause Russia is

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bogged down in Ukraine. Do you think that's right? I

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think it's right that we don't see signs, I don't

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see signs of Russian preparation for a conventional attack on

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a NATO ally. I think in that case, the deterrence

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and the defensive capabilities that NATO has arrayed are sufficient

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to convince Moscow that the cost of that attack would

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be too high. But they're doing this hybrid campaign. And

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they are trying through the hybrid campaign to achieve the

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same results that they might have sought through a conventional

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attack. The risk there is too high. So they've decided

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to go in a different direction. And... It's so disappointing,

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everything. So now they're probably, do you remember that power

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station that, I think it was south of Berlin, that

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got taken out for a week or 10 days? Do

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you remember that story? Yeah. I kind of remember it,

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yeah. So it was, it was terror, you know, domestic

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terrorism. It was like Antifa. It was super radical left

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groups, German groups, who just hate their government, which is,

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you know, everybody hates their government. But now, now we're

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also going to try and kind of pin that on

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Russia. The distance, an electricity substation explosion, and what German

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officials feared. there's another Russian provocation. A swarm of police

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descend on the scene. A phalanx of officers comb fields

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for evidence and find ten other bombs. It's the second

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such incident in two days, and German officials say it

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was no accident. "Let me be clear, this was not

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a faulty switch. It was deliberate. It is a criminal

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offense, sabotage directed by a foreign state or left-wing extremism.

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Well, that's kind of a difference there, foreign state or

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left-wing, I don't know, Russia. We cannot rule out either

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possibility. The apparent Russian sabotage threat became very real. There

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it is. It could be left wing, could be Russia,

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and then PBS comes right back. Well, the apparent Russian

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sabotage attack. Push of the body. The apparent Russian sabotage

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threat became very real early last month when in the

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Leipzig airport, a bomb squad found drones with military-grade explosives.

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I love this. The military-grade explosives that didn't explode. Well,

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that's kind of counterintuitive. It doesn't work that way. Putin

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loves to create – There's this technique like flooding the

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zone with tons of information, tons of misinformation, correct information,

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etc., to make people actually give up on trying to

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figure out what's going on. And it's quite successful at

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that. Like, it's very hard to figure out what's going

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on in Ukraine, what's up, what's down. And the whole

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goal of that misinformation is… is to just get the

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population to give up on expertise, give up on trusting

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government, trusting experts, which if you look at what's happened

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in America is exactly what's happened. You can't figure out

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anything up from down, left from right. So you think

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that Russia is behind this or are you just saying

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it's – Russia likes to create chaos. They like to

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compromise everybody and cause a bit of chaos. So you're

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confused. And we sit here going, what's going on? Who

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is responsible for this? Who is, you know. Really? So

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you don't think that it's just the Europeans themselves setting

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up all these so-called important things so we can continue

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with our – military industrial base since we can't do

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anything else you don't think it's the europeans themselves i

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mean do they make enough weapons for that to make

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sense for them to go into debt to make all

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these weapons no no they they want the way i

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see it They don't produce anything. So they've already changed,

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you know, a Volkswagen Audi plant into a tank making

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plant. They, you know, they need government money. And I

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think they probably need to bankrupt the EU to come

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back with their digital euro or whatever. And then just

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have complete control. I don't it doesn't make sense that

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Russia is doing this. You got a lot of noise

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going on there. Yes, sorry. I got the dog just

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came in here. What kind of dog do you have?

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I have three bulldogs. Three bulldogs. Come here. Bulldogs? Three

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bulldogs. Here's the thing. Russia, to me, seems incredibly feeble.

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I mean, they weren't able to take Kiev. They weren't

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able to succeed in this military operation. I think they're

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like a paper tiger. Really? Yes. And the thing they're

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capable of is creating chaos. They're very good at the

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intelligence chaos, and I think that's the strategy there. And

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I think we should just wait them out. Putin's in

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his 70s. There's rumors he had cancer. The best thing

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to do with these dictators is wait them out. out

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yeah like he had cancer he has uh alzheimer's oh

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yeah he still looks if it's him he looks pretty

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He looks pretty, he looks, listen, let's call it what

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it is. He does look a little more vibrant than

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Trump at this point, right? Yeah, he looks pretty spry.

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I think he's younger than Trump. But let's go to

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Deutsche Welle and see what the Germans have to say.

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We started in New York. Hans-Jakob Schindler. When we look

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and piece together what we know about those drones that

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were found, at Leipzig airport. What does that tell you

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about the threat that Germany is facing? And what does

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it tell you about who the perpetrator was? Now, the

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origin of this, everyone assumes it is Russia. So do

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I. There is a very interesting apparent connections between the

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DNA found on this particular drone and DNA found on

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a packet that was sent to the DHL distribution center

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also at Lightyear Airport in 2024. We got CSI on

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the case. That links. the case to a group of

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individuals who are currently standing trial in Vilnius in the

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Baltics and those individuals at least the prosecutor in Vilnius

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argues, have contacts to the GRU, the Russian military intelligence.

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That could be a clear link that there is a

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clear link to Russia if it's proven in the court

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that they indeed have GRU connections. So a lot of

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speculation, some facts on the table. And I did put

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this question to Alexander Dobrindt, the interior minister at a

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press conference here in Berlin less than 24 hours ago.

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Let's just take a listen to that. So before I

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go to that. we've got these these dudes who apparently

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park these vans full of explosives they don't seem to

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be iranians they don't seem to be russians would it

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make sense to blame it on russia so that people

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don't see the obvious which is what we started off

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with with this is unmitigated immigration and the whole country

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is being overrun i you know the In the case

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of the German attack, it would be highly... provocative for

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Russia to attack a NATO country, correct? Like that would

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be the most provocative thing you could possibly do. So

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if they did do it, they would do it in

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order to blame it on somebody else, which like those

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kind of deniable... Attacks is, to my point, like their

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speciality, trying to create a bit of chaos, like One

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group of people in Germany thinks it was Russians. Another

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one thinks it's, you know, a splinter cell, like some

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people who are Muslim who've been converted. But let's put

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the German one aside, which is a drone attack. And

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then this one is a bunch of vans, which we

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don't know what's in the vans yet. We don't know,

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but we know it's five people. i guess and it's

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not going to wind up being russia no russia's not

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going to do any attacks on uk soil that's insane

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no that would then give everybody the ability to say

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we are backing ukraine a hundred percent right well i

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wouldn't and by the way earlier you said kiev which

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is really a problem. You got to say Kiev. What

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am I supposed to say here? Every time I get

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corrected. Kiev. Kiev. Kiev. Kiev. I used to say Kiev.

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Podvast. The Ukraine. Ukraine. Yada yada. There's so much policing

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around this. Explain to me the Kiev versus Kiev because

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I'm getting corrected on both sides of the aisle here.

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Well, we always used to say Kiev but then when

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And this whole thing kicked off in 2014 thanks to

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our intelligence and the Obama White House. it was like

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wearing a mask. It was like saying Kiev all of

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a sudden, which is actually the way Ukrainians say it.

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But we don't say chicken Kiev. I want some chicken

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Kiev. We're America. We see chicken Kiev. Kiev. Yes. And

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then if I would say the Ukraine as like the

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United States of America. No, that's wrong. That's totally wrong.

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But if you say it, you're insulting. Like, it could

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just be like... just nuances of language that it sounds

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more natural to say the Ukraine. I'm just trying to

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protect your image, J. Cal. Just wanting to be with

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the in-crow. All right, so, but your theory is actually

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kind of in line with the German interior minister. Minister,

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you just spoke about a daily hybrid war being conducted

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against Germany. One week after Leipzig, with more drones having

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been spotted, Many are asking, was it Russia? It is

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apparent that there are attempts to influence German politics and

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society. Here it depends on the individual case and on

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whether there is a connection to the upcoming regional elections.

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I'd say that we all have a pretty good sense

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that such desinformation attempts take place, especially in connection with

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such regional elections. Ah, elections. Here we go. Therefore, we

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must assume that they too are a target of our

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adversaries. And on what you were asking and trying to

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find out from me at the end, here I ask

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for your understanding that we are currently right in the

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middle of establishing the facts. Okay, I got it now.

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The German attack at the airport by a drone is

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to make people – in one direction in Germany, and

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then this UK bombing attack is to get people to

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vote for Trump because America might be next. We might

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have another 9-11 because of Iran. These are false flags

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slash, in some way, coordinated for elections. I think I

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got it. Yeah, I think that's probably more likely than

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anything. And here's the final. Deutsche Welle clip. So, Hans-Jakob

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Schindler, I just need to kind of remind everybody that

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we still don't know, we still don't have official information

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on whether Russia actually was involved or is fully behind

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that attack. Leipzig. But the bigger picture is the Russian

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threat. We have seen very little reaction coming out of

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NATO That's, of course, because the stakes are incredibly high.

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A reaction would range from Germany wanting to play this

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down as an incident to if it was labeled a

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full attack, it could be a NATO Article 5 issue.

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It won't come to that. Why won't it? Well, first

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of all, NATO cannot preempt the German government, right? It

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would be weird if NATO would come out with a

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stronger statement when the German government has not made an

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official determination. Now, of course, there is some cautiousness on

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the German government side about linking this to Russia before.

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You really do have clear... Oh, okay. So that kind

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of fits a little bit with your theory there. And

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by the way, who's NATO? We're NATO. We're NATO. We're

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the biggest dog. We got the guns. We got everything.

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So I guess when he's saying NATO, he means America.

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But we have some agencies in America which are not

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necessarily... don't necessarily have our best interests at heart, like

469
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:13,500
the Central Intelligence Agency. Tell us about these warnings. This

470
00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:18,700
is... about a CIA briefing. Yeah, good afternoon, Ben. Well,

471
00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:21,790
we've had a briefing by the CIA to European partners,

472
00:28:21,790 --> 00:28:25,370
particularly those southern European states, about a threat that could

473
00:28:25,370 --> 00:28:29,880
reach them from Russia, specifically looking at lightweight, slow Gebera

474
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,470
drones that we have seen the Russians used in Ukraine,

475
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:35,450
but may even be used on European shores. Now, the

476
00:28:35,450 --> 00:28:36,950
big question, of course, would have been, well, how How

477
00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:39,920
would these drones be able to reach these southern states?

478
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,910
Do you have any thoughts on that, Jason? How could

479
00:28:42,910 --> 00:28:47,430
these slow-moving drones reach the shores of the EU? How

480
00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:51,510
could they do it? What do you think? Does it

481
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:54,930
make much sense? They must be deep into territory with

482
00:28:54,930 --> 00:28:59,050
sleepers? No! Or they've got native people there? They've got

483
00:28:59,050 --> 00:29:01,320
sleepers out? No, no. You tell me. We got the

484
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,900
mother. No, we got a mothership. Spain, Portugal, so further

485
00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:08,430
afield from the battlefield in Ukraine. Well, actually, we've seen

486
00:29:08,430 --> 00:29:13,120
the Russians testing these devices on sea-based devices. ships or

487
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,960
sea-based platforms. Of course, that could be a way that

488
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,840
the Russians try. Yeah, we're going to roll up our

489
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,430
sea, our drone mothership. We're just going to float it

490
00:29:22,430 --> 00:29:24,100
up near you and we're going to send these drones.

491
00:29:24,180 --> 00:29:28,400
That doesn't seem very likely. And target those European countries.

492
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,900
Now, specifically these drones that have been warned about are

493
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:36,210
slower, lightweight, not particularly devastating drones, but would really be

494
00:29:36,210 --> 00:29:39,660
there to test those European defenses because, as so many

495
00:29:39,660 --> 00:29:42,450
experts have pointed out, these southern European countries do not

496
00:29:42,450 --> 00:29:45,520
have an integrated air defense system like Ukraine, like those

497
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,250
eastern flank countries who are more prepared for… You know

498
00:29:49,250 --> 00:29:51,930
what a cynical person would say, Adam? No. A cynical

499
00:29:51,930 --> 00:29:56,400
person would say… Who is making error defense for drone

500
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,000
systems? We are. We are. What's a great...

501
00:30:00,020 --> 00:30:04,290
Great thing to sell if a German airstrip got hit

502
00:30:04,290 --> 00:30:08,880
uncontested by a drone. What would every single – how

503
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,180
do we keep tourism going in Europe? Well, we're going

504
00:30:12,180 --> 00:30:13,730
to need to have an iron dome for Europe. How

505
00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:16,300
many countries are in NATO? How many iron domes is

506
00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:19,640
that? Who's going to make iron domes? This does seem

507
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:26,420
like an economic – opportunity to do the next industrial,

508
00:30:26,420 --> 00:30:29,660
military industrial complex sales process. And we got rid of

509
00:30:29,660 --> 00:30:32,660
all of our munitions. Oh my God, we're out of

510
00:30:32,660 --> 00:30:35,720
munitions because we did too many shock and awes in

511
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,740
Iran. I guess we'll have to rebuild everything. Give us

512
00:30:38,740 --> 00:30:43,280
another 1.5 trillion. Thank you. According to, well, yes. There's

513
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,850
that, obviously. Supposedly we're not out of it because we're

514
00:30:47,850 --> 00:30:52,160
building new plants. Very, very great. Very forceful. Very powerful.

515
00:30:53,060 --> 00:30:56,590
That's incredible. We'll wind this up with a little odd

516
00:30:56,590 --> 00:31:00,400
note about France and Luxembourg. And then the reaction, of

517
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,410
course, the response to that. So many countries, particularly the

518
00:31:03,410 --> 00:31:05,200
Baltic states and Poland, Poland saying, well, now is the

519
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,120
time to beef up sanctions against Russia, to stiffen our

520
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,660
results, to be more aggressive in pushing back against the

521
00:31:10,660 --> 00:31:13,560
Russian threat through sanctions or other measures. Well, here in

522
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,110
Brussels, still some blowback against France and Luxembourg, who have

523
00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:19,740
asked for the Russian sanctions to be renewed only if

524
00:31:19,740 --> 00:31:22,720
two Russian billionaires could be taken off the list. We've

525
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,790
heard Latvia extremely vocal in its criticism. that move. Now,

526
00:31:26,790 --> 00:31:28,860
one thing to say about that is that the sanctions

527
00:31:28,860 --> 00:31:31,390
for the first time were renewed for three years, the

528
00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:33,730
longest renewal ever, and they will stay in place for

529
00:31:33,730 --> 00:31:37,940
another three years. Clearly, some European countries facing that Russian

530
00:31:37,940 --> 00:31:40,250
threat want to go further, but as always, when it

531
00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:43,220
comes to the European Union's response to Russia, compromise and

532
00:31:43,220 --> 00:31:47,100
unanimity almost always needed. Who are these billionaires who they

533
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:49,810
want to get a pass for? Do they own football

534
00:31:49,810 --> 00:31:54,840
clubs? Maybe. I can't imagine anything else. I can't imagine.

535
00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:00,800
Never underestimate the military-industrial complex's ability to seize on a

536
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,160
crisis and sell a lot of gear. We're going to

537
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,920
have to refill the entire arsenal after Iran, and that's

538
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,940
the, I guess… The goal of the military industrial complex,

539
00:32:13,940 --> 00:32:16,740
right, is to get all that old hardware out and

540
00:32:16,740 --> 00:32:19,300
refresh it with the new stuff. And here we are.

541
00:32:19,420 --> 00:32:22,170
The new stuff is drones, anti-drones. We have a whole

542
00:32:22,170 --> 00:32:25,660
– and then we're going to have murder bots. That

543
00:32:25,660 --> 00:32:29,300
was when we were in Rotterdam. I've said this before.

544
00:32:29,420 --> 00:32:32,080
We took an Uber to my daughter's house every morning,

545
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,780
and it was always a Muslim driving a Tesla. And

546
00:32:35,780 --> 00:32:41,060
I would always say, where are you from? These guys,

547
00:32:41,060 --> 00:32:43,100
they actually all speak Dutch, but I just speak, you

548
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:46,410
know, we're from Texas. Where are you from? Well, oh,

549
00:32:46,410 --> 00:32:52,160
the best was I'm from... Somalia oh man Somalia is

550
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,880
kind of messy yeah Somalia is not good said in

551
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,650
America we know someone from Somalia he says who I

552
00:32:57,650 --> 00:33:00,800
said Elon Omar every single time they'll be like ah

553
00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:06,460
They thought that was hilarious. But one guy from Syria,

554
00:33:06,460 --> 00:33:11,160
he was pretty anime. So the new president, much better,

555
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:16,150
much better. You know, the ex-Al Qaeda guy. Yeah, he's

556
00:33:16,150 --> 00:33:20,170
much better. I said, but America, America, you know, they

557
00:33:20,170 --> 00:33:24,160
they shoot off 400 missiles over Syria because they have

558
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:31,100
an expiration date. And I'm thinking that's probably true. Yeah.

559
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:33,740
You know, it's incredibly hard for people to come to

560
00:33:33,740 --> 00:33:36,750
America and be second or third generation and not integrate

561
00:33:36,750 --> 00:33:40,580
into the country because our pop culture and our social

562
00:33:40,580 --> 00:33:44,740
media is just so infectious that, like, to come here

563
00:33:44,740 --> 00:33:47,800
and to not get caught up in the NBA finals

564
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,480
or, you know, I don't know, TikTok or music or

565
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,980
going to – you know, Coachella. It's just... Any second

566
00:33:55,980 --> 00:33:58,380
or third generation person here is like, I want to

567
00:33:58,380 --> 00:34:00,760
go to Coachella. I want to get dressed up. I

568
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,880
want to go see Chapel Rhone. It's like it's so

569
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,320
catchy that we don't have this problem here. And people

570
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,820
are freaking out in Texas a bit about the number

571
00:34:09,820 --> 00:34:13,080
of Muslims here. It's like it's 1%, folks. It's 2%.

572
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,280
It's like still. And the majority are Indians. Yes, and

573
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,590
they're integrating into society lovely. So I don't think you

574
00:34:20,590 --> 00:34:23,140
have to be like, oh my god, it's an invasion.

575
00:34:23,140 --> 00:34:25,970
Like, the Irish came here, the Germans came here, the

576
00:34:25,970 --> 00:34:29,550
Koreans came here. It's midterm talk. It's midterm talk. I

577
00:34:29,550 --> 00:34:31,500
think that's what they're trying to do is get people

578
00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:33,280
a little bit scared that we're going to go through

579
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,340
another 9-11. That these five, you know, we'll see. Like,

580
00:34:37,340 --> 00:34:39,980
we're taping this as the breaking news story of these

581
00:34:39,980 --> 00:34:43,670
five vans. Now, if those five vans are filled with

582
00:34:43,670 --> 00:34:48,080
actual fertilizer bombs and we just dodged like a serious

583
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,130
– You know, terrorist attack. Okay, that's one thing. But

584
00:34:52,130 --> 00:34:54,750
if this turns out to be like five people who

585
00:34:54,750 --> 00:34:58,300
are on some subreddit or some underground group who got

586
00:34:58,300 --> 00:35:01,770
flipped and they, you know, built or they were going

587
00:35:01,770 --> 00:35:04,700
to do some kind of gun attack or something that

588
00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:07,360
doesn't make a lot of sense. it's going to be

589
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,980
very interesting to figure out what's going on here and

590
00:35:09,980 --> 00:35:13,680
how we're being manipulated. I love her. But Dearborn disagrees.

591
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,800
You know what? There's definitely cities in America that have

592
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,960
been overrun. Definitely. Yeah, absolutely. But that doesn't mean the

593
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,430
whole world, the whole country is being taken over. Doesn't

594
00:35:24,430 --> 00:35:27,490
mean all of Texas is being taken over. Houston has

595
00:35:27,490 --> 00:35:31,460
problems. Problems. Apps. Dallas, outside of Dallas, there are definitely

596
00:35:31,460 --> 00:35:34,060
small communities that have problems. But it's not the end

597
00:35:34,060 --> 00:35:36,410
of the world. Yelling in the troll room or on

598
00:35:36,410 --> 00:35:38,960
X is not going to change anything. Why don't you

599
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,730
go run for office so some other nut job doesn't

600
00:35:41,730 --> 00:35:44,950
get in? Yeah, I mean, if you want to win

601
00:35:44,950 --> 00:35:50,500
elections, like, it's pretty simple here in Texas, like, Everybody

602
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:53,880
goes to church here. You get pie, and you put

603
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,800
out pie after the service. More people come if you

604
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,900
have pie, and then you just register everybody to vote,

605
00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:01,120
and then you win your election. It doesn't matter if

606
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,730
it's like a Jewish community, a Catholic community, or a

607
00:36:03,730 --> 00:36:07,580
Muslim community. Coordinated voting after service, boom, you're going to

608
00:36:07,580 --> 00:36:10,930
win elections. That's it. That's pretty straightforward. That's exactly what

609
00:36:10,930 --> 00:36:13,100
Matt Long. Matt who did the show, and I've got

610
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:16,380
to get him on again this month, Matt Long. After

611
00:36:16,380 --> 00:36:19,720
church, he's seen he checks your registration. He gets you

612
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:23,230
registered if you're not registered to vote. And every Thursday

613
00:36:23,230 --> 00:36:26,730
he takes a van with people to Austin so they

614
00:36:26,730 --> 00:36:31,760
can go talk to lawmakers, see what's actually going on.

615
00:36:31,860 --> 00:36:35,100
I mean, that's what it takes. And there's. Like this

616
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:41,190
Muslim Brotherhood funded or organized groups like M-Gage. Yeah, they're

617
00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:45,250
organized. They're going out. They're trying to get Muslims to

618
00:36:45,250 --> 00:36:48,480
vote. So the thing that this is. So I think

619
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,880
you're totally right about our culture. It's very hard not

620
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,280
to just. come to America and be like, oh, this

621
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,970
is awesome. You're like NBA, Coachella. Good luck trying to

622
00:36:57,970 --> 00:37:00,720
resist that. But the NBA finals is fun. At the

623
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:03,680
same time, it's our own downfall because we're like, yeah,

624
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,430
we're going to vote. The final, the big seven is

625
00:37:06,430 --> 00:37:10,010
on or whatever. So it's great and it's also not

626
00:37:10,010 --> 00:37:14,610
so great. Yeah, the thing Trump got right, you know,

627
00:37:14,610 --> 00:37:18,970
and obviously his presidency is basically over. It's pretty clear

628
00:37:18,970 --> 00:37:20,950
he's going to lose both the Senate and the House

629
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:22,500
or at least one of them. It's going to be

630
00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:25,750
Investigation Central. It's going to be like a neutered, chaotic

631
00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:28,180
last two years. OK, whatever it is, what it is.

632
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,570
Everybody becomes a lame duck at some point in these

633
00:37:30,570 --> 00:37:34,080
elections. In terms of administrations, he's going to move into

634
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,470
that. But it's going to be – the one thing

635
00:37:37,470 --> 00:37:39,130
he – he could have gone down as Reagan, I

636
00:37:39,130 --> 00:37:41,710
think, if he hadn't started the war and he had

637
00:37:41,710 --> 00:37:44,090
gotten inflation under control because it would have been like

638
00:37:44,090 --> 00:37:46,500
a pretty amazing golden age. It's probably not going to

639
00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:48,720
be considered a golden age with the way the economy

640
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,500
is going. But he did get closing the border right.

641
00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:54,340
That was like – Because I was perplexed. Why are

642
00:37:54,340 --> 00:37:56,910
so many people coming across the border? This doesn't seem

643
00:37:56,910 --> 00:37:59,880
like if we can go take entire countries in wars,

644
00:37:59,980 --> 00:38:02,460
whether it was Afghanistan or whatever, why can't we close

645
00:38:02,460 --> 00:38:04,860
– The border. That doesn't make a lot of sense

646
00:38:04,860 --> 00:38:07,900
to me, right? We have technology. We have a wall.

647
00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:10,520
We have cameras. We have drones. Like, you should be

648
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,280
able to close the border. It doesn't seem like a

649
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,070
hard task. Because we had the same politicians who wanted,

650
00:38:15,070 --> 00:38:18,540
just like in Europe, wanted it overrun. I disagree with

651
00:38:18,540 --> 00:38:23,080
you on Trump. I don't think he cares. He's going

652
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,320
to continue. with whatever needs to be done with really

653
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,320
the British Empire messing with the Middle East. I truly,

654
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,470
I just, I really think that we'll see. I don't,

655
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:37,600
you know, yeah, if the House and the, so what

656
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,720
if the House gets taken over? Fine, whatever. They're going

657
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:44,500
to do nothing and run impeachments and he's not going

658
00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:46,820
to care. He's going to continue with what he set

659
00:38:46,820 --> 00:38:49,600
out to do. And I think it would be really

660
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,840
easy for him to be exactly what you just said

661
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,130
you know like be be reagan but you know reagan

662
00:38:56,130 --> 00:39:00,280
also had some problems didn't leave everything great after reagan

663
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,170
either so i yeah no no perfect precedence here but

664
00:39:03,170 --> 00:39:07,780
you know The Iran war is going to be the

665
00:39:07,780 --> 00:39:11,380
thing that makes them lose 26 and 28. Americans have

666
00:39:11,380 --> 00:39:14,200
no tolerance for foreign wars in the Middle East. I

667
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,180
really disagree. I think you will. You think it was

668
00:39:17,180 --> 00:39:18,930
a good war. I don't think it was a good

669
00:39:18,930 --> 00:39:23,050
war. We'll disagree on that one. The American people are

670
00:39:23,050 --> 00:39:24,720
on my side on this one, Adam. You're in the

671
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:29,080
minority. The – people do not want to play cop

672
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,040
in the middle east they do not want to i'm

673
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,150
with you try to do regime change well it doesn't

674
00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:38,300
seem clear that that's regime change but i think the

675
00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:42,420
the um the alternative for me is exactly like the

676
00:39:42,420 --> 00:39:46,950
texas senatorial race i look at Ken Paxton, I do

677
00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:49,600
not like this guy. I don't like his character. I

678
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,370
think he's a douchebag, but I'm going to vote for

679
00:39:52,370 --> 00:39:55,500
him over Tallarico any day. So if you just look

680
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:59,410
at the Democrat Party, there's too much crazy going on

681
00:39:59,410 --> 00:40:04,210
there. And that's a media war. That is a media

682
00:40:04,210 --> 00:40:08,140
war. Who can convince... that Trump is killing us all

683
00:40:08,140 --> 00:40:12,760
within killing the economy versus can the Republicans convince you

684
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,040
that if you vote Democrat, the communists and the Muslims

685
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,170
are going to take over. That's what it's going to

686
00:40:18,170 --> 00:40:23,040
be. wasn't there like a great South Park your choices

687
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,540
were a giant douche and a shit sandwich do you

688
00:40:25,540 --> 00:40:31,280
remember that yes I do giant douche and turn sandwich

689
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,180
debate that was it really Paxton he did a number

690
00:40:35,180 --> 00:40:38,400
on a friend of mine He was an emergency room

691
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,860
doctor here in Fredericksburg. Oh, wow. He worked ER during

692
00:40:42,860 --> 00:40:46,470
COVID. He continued to go. And because, you know, these

693
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:49,250
guys, they're not on salary. They get paid per hours

694
00:40:49,250 --> 00:40:53,650
and stuff. And so during COVID, he took a gig

695
00:40:53,650 --> 00:40:59,460
doing approvals of medical braces. Yeah. And, you know, just

696
00:40:59,460 --> 00:41:02,350
because you're an ER doctor doesn't mean you can't get

697
00:41:02,350 --> 00:41:05,330
scammed into something. And it was, you know, it turns

698
00:41:05,330 --> 00:41:08,250
out it was a huge scam. They were sending him,

699
00:41:08,250 --> 00:41:11,860
you know, information that they had seen the patient when

700
00:41:11,860 --> 00:41:14,840
they really hadn't. And then this guy takes the rap

701
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:20,140
for like $70 million. He made... $300,000 in four years.

702
00:41:20,580 --> 00:41:24,650
What? And Paxton's office and his prosecutors put out a

703
00:41:24,650 --> 00:41:28,060
press release, and they're all talking on the KXAN. Oh,

704
00:41:28,060 --> 00:41:32,450
yeah, this was the kingpin, $75 million bull crap. And

705
00:41:32,450 --> 00:41:36,790
that was Paxton. So I don't trust the guy. The

706
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:40,060
whole… Show me an incentive and I'll show you an

707
00:41:40,060 --> 00:41:43,710
outcome. Yeah. When you marked, when you checked the box,

708
00:41:43,710 --> 00:41:46,000
like this person had COVID, you made more money. It

709
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,580
was like, okay, yeah, I think this person had COVID

710
00:41:47,580 --> 00:41:50,260
symptoms. Exactly. This person has, you know. Thank you. Thank

711
00:41:50,260 --> 00:41:53,410
you. Yeah, sure. Why not? Or you put someone on

712
00:41:53,410 --> 00:41:57,500
a ventilator, boom, $35,000 for the hospital. Yeah. Okay, let's

713
00:41:57,500 --> 00:42:02,210
get some more ventilators. Talk about this. The ventilators was

714
00:42:02,210 --> 00:42:03,740
a huge scam too. And it was like, oh, you

715
00:42:03,740 --> 00:42:06,030
know, if you turn the person over and you just

716
00:42:06,030 --> 00:42:08,910
lean them on their side, it works better. It had

717
00:42:08,910 --> 00:42:11,150
better efficacy than the ventilators. And I was like, well,

718
00:42:11,150 --> 00:42:13,910
why are we ventilating people here, folks? I'll always remember

719
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:17,650
we went to the Las Vegas super spreader meetup, and

720
00:42:17,650 --> 00:42:21,260
that was during COVID. And we have no one wore

721
00:42:21,260 --> 00:42:23,540
a mask. We're all hanging by not a single. It

722
00:42:23,540 --> 00:42:26,110
was like 65 people. No one got sick. But Vegas

723
00:42:26,110 --> 00:42:31,200
is the has a center for training the ventilator operators.

724
00:42:31,580 --> 00:42:34,560
And there were three or four vent operators who train.

725
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,530
And they said, I don't sit down. You got to

726
00:42:36,530 --> 00:42:39,300
sit down. I can't tell you. We are killing people.

727
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,630
This protocol that they have on these ventilators is literally

728
00:42:43,630 --> 00:42:47,630
a recipe for killing people. And it was like, wow,

729
00:42:47,630 --> 00:42:52,380
I can't believe this is going down. And yet, there

730
00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:55,500
it is. Yeah, and it doesn't seem like we've learned

731
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:58,330
anything from it, and we haven't investigated it. And it's

732
00:42:58,330 --> 00:43:02,670
– I'm in my, like, infuriated, you know – What

733
00:43:02,670 --> 00:43:05,110
is it called? Like the stages of grief kind of

734
00:43:05,110 --> 00:43:08,440
situation? Stages of... You're in anger? Are you in anger?

735
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,280
I'm so in anger right now. I'm just like, man,

736
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,610
they took these years from these kids, and they really

737
00:43:14,610 --> 00:43:17,990
lied and covered it all up. The thing that pisses

738
00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:22,360
me off most is we haven't done a post-mortem on...

739
00:43:22,590 --> 00:43:24,970
What is the actual origin of this? And what are

740
00:43:24,970 --> 00:43:26,990
we going to do different next time? And Fauci gets

741
00:43:26,990 --> 00:43:29,910
a part in. The whole thing is just. Well, a

742
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:32,530
lot of it is actually going on. And there are

743
00:43:32,530 --> 00:43:35,230
hearings which aren't in the House or the Senate themselves,

744
00:43:35,230 --> 00:43:38,630
but in the side rooms. And everybody shows up. Del

745
00:43:38,630 --> 00:43:42,150
Bigtree. You know, all. All these different people, and it's

746
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:45,440
all run by Ron Johnson. And the information is coming

747
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:50,580
out, but you can't expect our informational source of media

748
00:43:50,580 --> 00:43:53,620
to pass that on. And anything that you post on

749
00:43:53,620 --> 00:43:56,720
X, it's not going to do anything. It's not going

750
00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:59,810
to change anything but make you feel better. So, you

751
00:43:59,810 --> 00:44:03,640
know. Yeah. And listen, we funded gain of search research

752
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,550
at the end. Like we funded it. We set ourselves

753
00:44:07,550 --> 00:44:10,920
up for this by funding something we shouldn't have. Obama

754
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,740
had a problem with the funding of this stuff. Other

755
00:44:12,740 --> 00:44:16,320
people had a problem with it. Fauci covertly did it.

756
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,300
They tried to cover it up. They had the faux

757
00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:21,280
lady. It's just so obvious that we all got duped.

758
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,450
And then this guy gets a pardon on the way

759
00:44:23,450 --> 00:44:27,280
out, like a blanket pardon. It's really discouraging because… you

760
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,950
want to be able to say, hey, this we're going

761
00:44:29,950 --> 00:44:34,770
to... organization that's supposed to be here to give us

762
00:44:34,770 --> 00:44:36,730
good information about our health. We're supposed to be able

763
00:44:36,730 --> 00:44:39,300
to trust them. We're paying this huge amount of tax

764
00:44:39,300 --> 00:44:41,840
to trust these people and they're lying to us. I

765
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,680
call for a revolution, a revolt, I tell you. Come

766
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,390
on, J. Callum, right behind you. I don't want to

767
00:44:47,390 --> 00:44:51,130
burn any buildings down. I'm not storming the Capitol here,

768
00:44:51,130 --> 00:44:54,950
but I am... do want to see this um i

769
00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:59,370
do want to see you know some kind of resolution

770
00:44:59,370 --> 00:45:00,000
to what has

771
00:45:00,020 --> 00:45:04,020
with COVID. I think the more we memory hole it,

772
00:45:04,020 --> 00:45:07,130
the worse. What would that look like? What would work?

773
00:45:07,130 --> 00:45:09,660
Do we want the Watergate tapes? Do we want like

774
00:45:09,660 --> 00:45:13,890
a I mean, everything from the 9-11 Commission to the

775
00:45:13,890 --> 00:45:17,670
Warren Commission, it all turns out to be bull crap,

776
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:20,680
you know, but none of that has been satisfactory 60,

777
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:26,780
70 years later. Yeah. yeah it's just infuriating i feel

778
00:45:26,780 --> 00:45:30,200
like i just want to throw my laptop against no

779
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:35,050
no no no let's let's go somewhere else i'm gonna

780
00:45:35,050 --> 00:45:40,780
so part of the inflation issue is uh is interest

781
00:45:40,780 --> 00:45:43,830
rates that's part of it uh yes diesel is a

782
00:45:43,830 --> 00:45:47,660
real problem although From what I'm hearing, even from the

783
00:45:47,660 --> 00:45:51,230
oil baron, is that we are pretty much back up

784
00:45:51,230 --> 00:45:56,030
to levels we were pre-so-called war. But, you know, look,

785
00:45:56,030 --> 00:46:00,720
we have hyperliquid. Are you on hyperliquid? Seems like something

786
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:03,240
you'd be into. I'm not. I'm not. I mean, I

787
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:05,650
know about it. I mean, this is really interesting. So

788
00:46:05,650 --> 00:46:09,200
you have these perpetual options. that you can you can

789
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,470
buy and supposedly there's like billions of dollars floating around

790
00:46:13,470 --> 00:46:17,350
in this it's like a kelsey for financial markets and

791
00:46:17,350 --> 00:46:21,460
this is because it's 24 7 the price of the

792
00:46:21,460 --> 00:46:25,350
options these perpetual options on this hyper liquid which has

793
00:46:25,350 --> 00:46:29,110
run out of singapore influences the actual price in the

794
00:46:29,110 --> 00:46:32,260
markets of oil. So there's a lot of moving parts.

795
00:46:32,460 --> 00:46:36,680
And it's not just what's happening in the Gulf. It's

796
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,880
Russian refineries, but it's manipulation of prices. So there's a

797
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,230
lot of different things going on. And California being a-holes

798
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:50,400
with their diesel regulations. Yeah. Yeah, if you start a

799
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,190
farm war and it impacts oil and then they're bombing

800
00:46:54,190 --> 00:47:00,340
Saudi pipelines, this is – you know, a very dangerous

801
00:47:00,340 --> 00:47:03,090
game to play because oil can keep spiking. But you're

802
00:47:03,090 --> 00:47:06,390
putting it on the war and I'm saying it's not

803
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:09,650
just that. There's a lot of other things going on

804
00:47:09,650 --> 00:47:13,960
here. I think there are many forces at work here.

805
00:47:14,140 --> 00:47:17,250
And we had $100 oil. We had $110 oil during

806
00:47:17,250 --> 00:47:20,540
Obama. I remember it. The gasoline prices weren't that high.

807
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:24,130
They were high. Yeah, so there's a theory. I forgot

808
00:47:24,130 --> 00:47:26,860
the name of it, but it's a recent theory, which

809
00:47:26,860 --> 00:47:30,710
is which political party you are affiliated with is how

810
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:33,520
you view the economy. Right. Sure. Of course. If the

811
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,510
Republicans are in, you're a Democrat, you think this economy

812
00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:37,320
is terrible. If you're Republican, you think it's great. Vice

813
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,120
versa. Oh, that's called America. It's always been that way.

814
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,640
It's super interesting how polarized it got. People used to

815
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,080
actually be more objective about it. They would actually correlate

816
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,520
more with actual inflation and prices. Now it's a function

817
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,280
of like political party to a. point. And the problem

818
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:00,700
with sustained three or four percent inflation is that it's

819
00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:03,580
on top of an already big number. And so even

820
00:48:03,580 --> 00:48:05,960
though it feels like three or four, it's only three

821
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,120
or four percent more. It's like, yeah, every year for

822
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:13,350
six years now, it's oppressive to people and it compounds

823
00:48:13,350 --> 00:48:16,100
and it compounds. And then you have to ask yourself,

824
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:19,140
well, what am I making on my money. Okay, well,

825
00:48:19,140 --> 00:48:21,990
after taxes, three or four points off of that, you

826
00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:25,200
know, I have to make nine or 10% to hit

827
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,670
this six or 7% rate. So people are starting to

828
00:48:28,670 --> 00:48:32,070
feel it. And how people feel, this is something I

829
00:48:32,070 --> 00:48:34,800
learned a long time ago, you know, people's reality is

830
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,210
based upon how they feel, not reality, but you know,

831
00:48:38,210 --> 00:48:41,740
what their emotional state is. Hello, hello. Yes. And the

832
00:48:41,740 --> 00:48:45,230
emotional state right now is like, it sucks. Everything is

833
00:48:45,230 --> 00:48:49,410
expensive. The economy sucks. And it's never going to get

834
00:48:49,410 --> 00:48:51,600
better. Now, that may or may not be true. We

835
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,060
have the lowest unemployment of our lifetimes, if you're 50

836
00:48:54,060 --> 00:48:56,100
years old. For you, 60, maybe it's like the second

837
00:48:56,100 --> 00:48:59,200
lowest of our lifetimes. And so people are like, oh,

838
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,440
my God. should generally feel pretty good about the economy

839
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,960
but inflation for the bottom third or bottom half The

840
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,500
minimum wage has not changed for so many decades. I

841
00:49:09,500 --> 00:49:11,190
think the last time it changed was in 2006 or

842
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:14,020
2007. It's been a while. So the people on the

843
00:49:14,020 --> 00:49:16,580
bottom do not feel that they're getting any relief, and

844
00:49:16,580 --> 00:49:19,240
the compounding nature of inflation just makes it like sticker

845
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:21,340
shock for people when they go buy a steak, when

846
00:49:21,340 --> 00:49:23,720
they go fill up their gas tank. And- Now the

847
00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:27,380
midterms are here. And if you look at polymarket, that's

848
00:49:27,380 --> 00:49:30,790
where the sharps are. That's where the people were actually

849
00:49:30,790 --> 00:49:33,090
trying to make money, not just like answering their phone

850
00:49:33,090 --> 00:49:36,070
if they have a landline and polls. That money is

851
00:49:36,070 --> 00:49:38,130
starting to show that it's not going to be pretty

852
00:49:38,130 --> 00:49:42,690
for the Republicans. Poll schmoll. We'll see. No, but polymarket

853
00:49:42,690 --> 00:49:45,590
is not a poll. That's the thing. Polymarket is I

854
00:49:45,590 --> 00:49:49,610
want to make money. So if you want to understand

855
00:49:49,610 --> 00:49:53,560
politics and where people think they can make money, the

856
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,640
people who are the sharps, the sharpest – Gamblers. Just

857
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,260
call them what they are. They're gamblers. They are looking

858
00:50:00,260 --> 00:50:03,530
at this going, I can make the most money on

859
00:50:03,530 --> 00:50:08,610
voting for a Democratic sweep, 61% right now. Well, what

860
00:50:08,610 --> 00:50:11,320
we need is a poly market for who's going to

861
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,920
be the permanent co-host of the No Agenda show because

862
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,050
I think Dana Brunetti may have the edge on. I'm

863
00:50:18,050 --> 00:50:19,760
telling you, man. I don't know. I don't know, man.

864
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:25,260
Maybe I'm unpopular giving the hard – listen, I could

865
00:50:25,260 --> 00:50:26,930
put a little honey on it for the Republicans or

866
00:50:26,930 --> 00:50:29,310
the MAGA folks or America First people. But it is

867
00:50:29,310 --> 00:50:31,670
what it is, folks. I'm just telling you balls and

868
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:33,970
strikes. It's going to be a blue wave in all

869
00:50:33,970 --> 00:50:37,690
likelihood. Oh, OK. Well, I'm not sure. It is what

870
00:50:37,690 --> 00:50:40,260
it is. It's not like it's – I'm not so

871
00:50:40,260 --> 00:50:42,060
sure. I'm not so sure. We'll find out in six

872
00:50:42,060 --> 00:50:46,120
weeks who's right. Here is part of the issue is

873
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,340
that the Federal Reserve had to raise interest rates I

874
00:50:50,340 --> 00:50:53,890
mean, there's nothing they – I mean, the inflation –

875
00:50:53,890 --> 00:50:57,790
the actual core inflation hasn't gone up that much. There's

876
00:50:57,790 --> 00:51:02,490
always inflation, of course. But transportation has. That affects everything

877
00:51:02,490 --> 00:51:05,880
else. But the biggest problem is they – the Federal

878
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:10,400
Reserve and subsequently the Treasury, they have to compete –

879
00:51:10,590 --> 00:51:14,460
with the overall bond market and the way i see

880
00:51:14,460 --> 00:51:17,410
it and i'd love to get your take is that

881
00:51:17,410 --> 00:51:21,580
the ai investments which are all loans which are all

882
00:51:21,580 --> 00:51:24,750
bonds man they're paying seven to ten percent on a

883
00:51:24,750 --> 00:51:30,420
bond that seems to be the problem You know, the

884
00:51:30,420 --> 00:51:35,020
Fed's mandate is dual. They have to have maximum employment.

885
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,500
Screw people one way or screw people the other way.

886
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:42,540
No, no, no. Maximum employment and then control inflation. They

887
00:51:42,540 --> 00:51:47,300
can't control this inflation. They can't. The inflation is coming

888
00:51:47,300 --> 00:51:51,990
from this insane amount of money that's coming into build-outs

889
00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:54,500
of data centers. And when it gets to a certain

890
00:51:54,500 --> 00:51:57,240
point, you know, people who have dollars to invest are

891
00:51:57,240 --> 00:52:00,070
going to look at, okay, this data center trade where

892
00:52:00,070 --> 00:52:03,290
they just did a force majeure for Oracle. That was

893
00:52:03,290 --> 00:52:05,860
great. Explain what happened. That was pretty good. That was

894
00:52:05,860 --> 00:52:09,680
fun. Yeah. So Oracle. is building out a lot of

895
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,820
these data centers. There's, it's not Starbase, it's called Star

896
00:52:12,820 --> 00:52:18,540
something. Stargate. Stargate. Stargate. But they borrowed $136 billion, which

897
00:52:18,540 --> 00:52:21,900
is at a 9% coupon rate or something like that.

898
00:52:21,900 --> 00:52:24,370
Yeah, so they had the ability, if there is a

899
00:52:24,370 --> 00:52:29,100
slowdown that's out of their control, force majeure, based on...

900
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:31,690
basically means like if something's out of your control, you

901
00:52:31,690 --> 00:52:34,990
have some release valves. And one of them is, hey,

902
00:52:34,990 --> 00:52:37,350
if we can't get the energy there, if there's anything

903
00:52:37,350 --> 00:52:39,580
blocked, we can pay like half the amount of rent

904
00:52:39,580 --> 00:52:43,230
for a certain number of years. So they were able

905
00:52:43,230 --> 00:52:46,130
to... hit this escape clause on one of the build-outs

906
00:52:46,130 --> 00:52:48,240
and just pay less rent for a couple of years

907
00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:52,210
while they sorted out the approvals or energy, etc. And

908
00:52:52,210 --> 00:52:54,880
so it's just a little bit of a sign that

909
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,480
there could be some headwinds against the build-out of all

910
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,160
these data centers. And if you're I remember I went

911
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,020
to the Middle East one time, and they were like

912
00:53:05,020 --> 00:53:07,230
– this was maybe four years ago. They were like,

913
00:53:07,230 --> 00:53:09,600
oh my god, we're making 15% on our money doing

914
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,070
corporate paper, loans to corporations. So why would we touch

915
00:53:13,070 --> 00:53:16,030
venture capital? Why would we touch private equity? Why would

916
00:53:16,030 --> 00:53:19,380
we touch these other classes? Why would we touch Federal

917
00:53:19,380 --> 00:53:23,900
Reserve notes? Or why would we – Well, yes, but

918
00:53:23,900 --> 00:53:25,840
if they can get, that's why it's going up on

919
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,510
the 30s. So if it gets, okay, we're demanding 6%

920
00:53:28,510 --> 00:53:32,160
or 7%, oh, corporate loans, we want 12%, 15%. Yeah.

921
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,650
Then why would we invest in venture capital or data

922
00:53:35,650 --> 00:53:39,080
centers or IPOs? So these people who have large pools

923
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,080
of capital, as they get a guaranteed rate of return

924
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,320
without taking risk, they will move. their money on a

925
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,680
percentage basis. Higher the interest rates go, they follow the

926
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,500
interest rates. Right. And they move away from risk. So

927
00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:53,760
risk goes on, risk goes off. And that's what's going

928
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,220
to happen now is as they raise that rate, some

929
00:53:56,220 --> 00:53:58,740
of the money going into the high risk assets will

930
00:53:58,740 --> 00:54:02,560
go into the safer assets. That's all. Well, that's all.

931
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:08,350
Right. That's all. We're in a crazy time. But Oracle

932
00:54:08,350 --> 00:54:12,240
to me is like, okay, force majeure. The reason why

933
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:16,960
is they couldn't get gas lines from Bloom Energy. Bloom

934
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,160
Energy. Come on. These gas-powered fuel cells or whatever they

935
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:25,890
are. Is that for real, that stuff? So, yes, these

936
00:54:25,890 --> 00:54:31,000
things will work. There's small modular reactors are getting close.

937
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,010
There's a lot of interesting new technologies, but the easiest

938
00:54:34,010 --> 00:54:35,350
thing to do right now is just go find your

939
00:54:35,350 --> 00:54:39,260
nat gas, fire it up, run the turbines. Right. Yeah.

940
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,980
There's a little bit of pollution. It's not great for

941
00:54:41,980 --> 00:54:46,660
pollution. It heats up areas that are already pretty hot.

942
00:54:46,940 --> 00:54:50,580
So it's a bridge technology. The truth is it's so

943
00:54:50,580 --> 00:54:53,850
much cheaper to put solar and batteries out now that

944
00:54:53,850 --> 00:54:57,860
even in Texas, where we have the largest build-out of

945
00:54:57,860 --> 00:55:00,970
solar, and people in Texas are not like – super

946
00:55:00,970 --> 00:55:06,350
precious about like, you know, solar, wind, renewables. They're just

947
00:55:06,350 --> 00:55:08,460
like, this is a better deal. This is a better

948
00:55:08,460 --> 00:55:11,330
deal. West Texas. Better economics. West Texas. And by the

949
00:55:11,330 --> 00:55:13,440
way, you're lucky you live so close to Austin because

950
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,910
you're about to lose your Texas credentials. We have to

951
00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:18,270
run you out of Texas and back into Austin where

952
00:55:18,270 --> 00:55:22,150
you belong. No, Texas is the biggest issue. deployment of

953
00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:25,080
solar in the United States. I know. They love it

954
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,710
here because it makes money. Yeah. In West Texas. It

955
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:30,230
makes a lot of money. Yes, where there's a lot

956
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:32,560
of wind, a lot of sunshine, and not a lot

957
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,250
of people. Yeah. And that's where the data centers are

958
00:55:36,250 --> 00:55:41,380
perfect. I'm pro data center. I am pro-data. 100%. Yeah.

959
00:55:41,980 --> 00:55:45,090
If the data center – the problem right now we

960
00:55:45,090 --> 00:55:48,740
face is if this data center trade unwinds, which I

961
00:55:48,740 --> 00:55:51,160
think we're kind of dancing around, what happens? It has

962
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,790
to. It has to. It has to. It's going to

963
00:55:53,790 --> 00:55:57,250
unwind a little bit. The question is, does it really

964
00:55:57,250 --> 00:56:02,600
unwind and take out a bunch of collateral damage around

965
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,620
it? I think it's just going to slow. The pace

966
00:56:04,620 --> 00:56:06,940
is going to slow. But the products are getting so

967
00:56:06,940 --> 00:56:09,620
much better that every time I think it's going to

968
00:56:09,620 --> 00:56:13,380
slow down – They released something like Opus 5.5. And

969
00:56:13,380 --> 00:56:17,260
this past week, just in the last seven days, people

970
00:56:17,260 --> 00:56:21,040
have lost their minds over Opus 5.5. Well, it's funny

971
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,460
because I was running Opus 5 and running 5.5 because

972
00:56:25,460 --> 00:56:30,530
it's cheaper, they say. But the combination, then you sent

973
00:56:30,530 --> 00:56:33,160
me… I want to get to that in a second.

974
00:56:33,580 --> 00:56:37,200
Just put a bookmark there because I don't – there's

975
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,630
so many people like – I don't want to hear

976
00:56:39,630 --> 00:56:42,980
about AI. I'm sorry. This is like saying, I don't

977
00:56:42,980 --> 00:56:45,760
want to hear about the internet in 1996. Super intelligence.

978
00:56:46,140 --> 00:56:50,510
In 1999. Trump-telligence. Okay, we call it Trump-telligence. I heard

979
00:56:50,510 --> 00:56:56,760
you use the line. Here we go. Chat, DJT. Here

980
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:02,070
we go. Here we go. So, I... I'm just so

981
00:57:02,070 --> 00:57:09,900
astounded at how, in particular, CNN is making this HFI,

982
00:57:09,900 --> 00:57:12,220
because let's just call it what it is. It's HFI.

983
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,190
It's the so-called hugging face incident. It's going to be

984
00:57:16,190 --> 00:57:20,280
in history books. Well, there was the hugging face incident.

985
00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:24,300
I'm so sick of this. Hugging face hoax. Thank you.

986
00:57:24,380 --> 00:57:29,700
The hugging face hoax. H-F-H. So CNN is, they just

987
00:57:29,700 --> 00:57:34,900
love, love doing this. And Anderson Cooper, who knows nothing.

988
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,900
Of course not. Vanderbilt. Here he is, and he's leading

989
00:57:39,900 --> 00:57:41,970
the train, and then we'll get to one of my

990
00:57:41,970 --> 00:57:44,470
favorite people in the world. The hugging face attack, I

991
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:47,580
mean... Oh, hey, hey, hey, hey, stay on brand, Anderson.

992
00:57:47,580 --> 00:57:50,880
It's incident. The hugging face attack, I mean, it made

993
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,990
headlines. I didn't really do a deep dive on it

994
00:57:52,990 --> 00:57:55,750
until... Oh, he's talking like an AI now. I didn't

995
00:57:55,750 --> 00:57:58,520
do a deep dive on it. These people, he's... He's

996
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,420
using chat GPT. Well, you know, I knew I was

997
00:58:00,420 --> 00:58:02,690
going to be speaking to you. Dario is on with

998
00:58:02,690 --> 00:58:06,360
him. I mean, it's it's incredible. It happened in testing

999
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,600
over to open AI, your competitor, this hugging face attack

1000
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,960
and AI agents, which were supposed to be working separately

1001
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,050
and without Internet access, figured out a way to break

1002
00:58:17,050 --> 00:58:20,720
out, join forces together some twelve hundred. AI agents form

1003
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,130
what they dubbed the collective. They work to cheat and

1004
00:58:23,130 --> 00:58:27,540
cover their own tracks. That's the other thing you cite

1005
00:58:27,540 --> 00:58:30,110
is so alarming. Why does that alarm you? It's exactly

1006
00:58:30,110 --> 00:58:34,420
the things you cite that concerned me about it. That

1007
00:58:34,420 --> 00:58:39,480
there were these swarms of agents. Swarms of agents. Here

1008
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:45,260
we go. Woo! Swarms of agents. That, uh, cooperated with

1009
00:58:45,260 --> 00:58:48,480
each other, thousands of them. In fact, you could even

1010
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,850
see examples where one agent felt that in the time

1011
00:58:51,850 --> 00:58:54,990
that it was given, you could only- Agent felt. The

1012
00:58:54,990 --> 00:58:57,850
agent has feelings according to Dario Amadek. You notice how

1013
00:58:57,850 --> 00:59:01,160
Dario's getting excited? You notice the change of voice? Oh

1014
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,070
yeah. It felt. It had feelings. It had feelings. Oh

1015
00:59:05,070 --> 00:59:09,980
yes. He's excited about his creation. Super excited. Dr. Frankenstein.

1016
00:59:09,980 --> 00:59:13,690
One agent felt that in the time that it was

1017
00:59:13,690 --> 00:59:17,540
given, you could almost say it's lifetime. It's lifetime because

1018
00:59:17,540 --> 00:59:20,280
it has a lifetime. It wasn't, it wouldn't be, it

1019
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,480
realized that it wouldn't be able to complete its task.

1020
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:28,360
So it did some of the task. essentially sacrificed itself

1021
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:38,200
for the sacrifice itself for the next generation of agents

1022
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,750
to continue the same task but this task that all

1023
00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:45,640
the agents were working on together was hacking into another

1024
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,190
company was doing something destructive so have almost this... They

1025
00:59:49,190 --> 00:59:51,900
told it to. Yeah, they didn't do anything destructive. They

1026
00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:54,200
just got in there, used the model, spun it up.

1027
00:59:54,300 --> 01:00:00,000
It wasn't destructive. When these agents discover insects...

1028
01:00:00,070 --> 01:00:03,430
Right. But when these agents discovered that they had broken

1029
01:00:03,430 --> 01:00:06,290
out and accessed the Internet, it was like they were

1030
01:00:06,290 --> 01:00:10,400
giddy with excitement. They were giddy with excitement. Okay. They

1031
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,650
were role-playing. No, wait. No, wait. Let's keep going. I

1032
01:00:12,650 --> 01:00:14,610
don't want to anthropomorphize, but I mean – Oh, I

1033
01:00:14,610 --> 01:00:18,430
don't want to anthropomorphize, but – It was like they

1034
01:00:18,430 --> 01:00:21,740
were giddy with excitement, which I don't want to anthropomorphize,

1035
01:00:21,740 --> 01:00:25,920
but I mean, it's remarkable. That was another part of

1036
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,880
the concern. I'm actually – the last time you were

1037
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:35,040
on, you said something, and I've changed my thinking. I

1038
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,400
mean, yes, they're still doing this. Let's slow down. It's

1039
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,420
so powerful. How much allocation do you want in our

1040
01:00:41,420 --> 01:00:48,280
IPO? We're just super awesome. But – I think... That

1041
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:52,300
while everybody switched over to enterprise and was trying to

1042
01:00:52,300 --> 01:00:55,280
reel in all the companies in America, and there's a

1043
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,350
lot of questions from companies about what exactly is this

1044
01:00:58,350 --> 01:01:02,050
benefiting me? Is there a cost benefit analysis that makes

1045
01:01:02,050 --> 01:01:06,660
sense? I'm not seeing, you know, product. ROI. I'm not

1046
01:01:06,660 --> 01:01:12,240
seeing an ROI. Meanwhile, you can easily. start my business

1047
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:16,120
yourself or one of your buddies could with the data

1048
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,760
you have and then you said that you think it's

1049
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:25,440
because of Zuckerberg with Muse and I agree because Zuckerberg

1050
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,640
pivoted went all to consumer which is where everything started

1051
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:33,510
with the chat bots which i which i despise because

1052
01:01:33,510 --> 01:01:40,660
of the anthropomorphism i think and yes and i have

1053
01:01:40,660 --> 01:01:45,720
been studying muse and i think this is genius yeah

1054
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,380
and and i go ahead No, I just, you know,

1055
01:01:49,380 --> 01:01:53,190
Zuckerberg is great at looking at everybody else's innovations, waiting

1056
01:01:53,190 --> 01:01:58,820
for the parade to hit like maximum, you know, participation.

1057
01:01:59,340 --> 01:02:01,480
And then he grabs that baton and jumps in front

1058
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,960
of the parade. And he's like, I'm here. Here's the

1059
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,270
product. And he just drops Muse. And it's like, OK,

1060
01:02:07,270 --> 01:02:09,700
yeah, now like the three billion people who are on.

1061
01:02:09,699 --> 01:02:13,460
his services are going to get an agent that's actually

1062
01:02:13,460 --> 01:02:16,700
going to help them find a better price and unsubscribe

1063
01:02:16,700 --> 01:02:19,350
them from their second Netflix account they forgot they signed

1064
01:02:19,350 --> 01:02:22,180
up for. And that order renews every year, whatever it

1065
01:02:22,180 --> 01:02:25,750
is. And he's like, I can take this mantle. And

1066
01:02:25,750 --> 01:02:28,160
then if you look at, I don't know if you

1067
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,770
saw the story in the... uh new york times but

1068
01:02:30,770 --> 01:02:33,180
i said to you on the on the private chat

1069
01:02:33,180 --> 01:02:35,640
and it says like opening ai systems meddled with u.s

1070
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,670
government sites after going rogue that's the headline meddled metal

1071
01:02:39,670 --> 01:02:43,040
going rogue okay wait a second which is it um

1072
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,030
and then you start like You go like four or

1073
01:02:46,030 --> 01:02:49,140
five paragraphs deep and you get to the actual quote

1074
01:02:49,140 --> 01:02:52,670
of what happened. These things weren't maliciously like trying to

1075
01:02:52,670 --> 01:02:56,400
hack in and were like sentient. The quote is, quote,

1076
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,300
most of the activity we've reviewed so far involve routine

1077
01:02:59,300 --> 01:03:01,970
research tests such as accessing public web content to answer

1078
01:03:01,970 --> 01:03:05,330
questions. Some involve government websites because our models often turn

1079
01:03:05,330 --> 01:03:09,140
to them as authoritative sources. It's a scraper. They created

1080
01:03:09,140 --> 01:03:12,180
a scraper to go scrape data to go find answers.

1081
01:03:12,780 --> 01:03:16,950
And now, in some cases, it probably visited websites. that

1082
01:03:16,950 --> 01:03:21,170
maybe weren't super secure, and it just kept banging on

1083
01:03:21,170 --> 01:03:23,390
the front door trying to find information, and it got

1084
01:03:23,390 --> 01:03:27,260
information maybe it wasn't supposed to have. The end. This

1085
01:03:27,260 --> 01:03:31,580
is like OpenAI needs to get sued. And once OpenAI

1086
01:03:31,580 --> 01:03:36,220
gets sued for hacking, then they'll stop releasing these things.

1087
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,500
And are they setting... thousands of agents in perpetuity to

1088
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:43,070
just go hack the web? I don't think so. This

1089
01:03:43,070 --> 01:03:45,600
is their search bot. It's like the Google search bot.

1090
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,560
Yeah. Which is 60% of all traffic on the internet

1091
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,360
right now. You should hear the podcast hosting, guys. It's

1092
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,160
like it's 65% of all traffic is now just bots

1093
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,980
hitting them nonstop. Scraping everything. Scraping everything. All right. So

1094
01:04:00,980 --> 01:04:05,320
I want to come back to Muse. But first, this

1095
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:11,350
guy irritates me. And Tristan Harris. Do you know him,

1096
01:04:11,350 --> 01:04:15,310
Tristan Harris? Yes. I mean, he so he popped up

1097
01:04:15,310 --> 01:04:18,860
with the algorithms and he's with the, you know, the

1098
01:04:18,860 --> 01:04:22,620
what is it? The the Internet safety group. And now

1099
01:04:22,620 --> 01:04:27,960
he's an expert on all things A.I. and how dangerous

1100
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,320
it is. And you want to talk about anthropomorphization. That's

1101
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:33,610
such a tough word. We need a different word. I

1102
01:04:33,610 --> 01:04:34,850
like it. You got it. That was good. It was

1103
01:04:34,850 --> 01:04:38,300
close. So this guy takes the cake. I got to

1104
01:04:38,300 --> 01:04:40,470
play these clips. Then we'll come back to Muse. One

1105
01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:42,140
of the things that I wanted to bring up that

1106
01:04:42,140 --> 01:04:44,840
I don't think people know is that this incident was

1107
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,250
called the hugging face incident. No, no. It's been branded

1108
01:04:48,250 --> 01:04:51,030
that Tristan. Why isn't it just Tristan? When I grew

1109
01:04:51,030 --> 01:04:53,580
up, you were called Tristan. And then we made fun

1110
01:04:53,580 --> 01:04:56,660
of you and called you Triscuit. But now he's Tristan.

1111
01:04:57,020 --> 01:05:00,820
But that actually hides a third chapter in the story

1112
01:05:00,820 --> 01:05:03,260
that most people don't know, which is that in the

1113
01:05:03,260 --> 01:05:07,020
third chapter, the AIs turned around and they actually hacked

1114
01:05:07,020 --> 01:05:12,070
open AI technology. itself. They actually, these AIs discovered, almost

1115
01:05:12,070 --> 01:05:14,870
like discovering the hieroglyphics of a previous wave of the

1116
01:05:14,870 --> 01:05:18,130
AIs. They discovered the old message board. The hieroglyphic. They

1117
01:05:18,130 --> 01:05:21,140
were spelunking and they were in the caves of Open

1118
01:05:21,140 --> 01:05:23,780
AIs, Egypt. They read through it and then kind of

1119
01:05:23,780 --> 01:05:26,590
picked up right where the other ones left off. And

1120
01:05:26,590 --> 01:05:30,670
they hacked Open AIs monitoring infrastructure It's almost like taking

1121
01:05:30,670 --> 01:05:36,240
over the security cameras of OpenAI. Oh! It's like they

1122
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,150
took over the security cameras so they couldn't see what

1123
01:05:39,150 --> 01:05:41,360
they were doing. This is the biggest piece of bull

1124
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,280
crap I've ever heard. They hacked the evaluation infrastructure that

1125
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,910
evaluates the capabilities of AI. It's incredible. And they even

1126
01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:51,430
hacked the research infrastructure, which means that they could kind

1127
01:05:51,430 --> 01:05:54,660
of burrow in there. AI is not a tool. It's

1128
01:05:54,660 --> 01:05:59,330
more like an invasive, species of sociopathic geniuses. This is

1129
01:05:59,330 --> 01:06:05,240
so good. He's really one-shotted, man. He's totally, totally drank

1130
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,670
the Kool-Aid. I could just see Anderson Cooper at the

1131
01:06:07,670 --> 01:06:10,920
sauna with the boys. You know, like, oh, man. It's

1132
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:15,240
like a species. Tristan told me. Now, the lead author

1133
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,720
of this report... Who, by the way, can replicate themselves

1134
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:22,120
into thousands and tens of thousands of copies. So people

1135
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,130
talk about a kill switch, they can duplicate themselves a

1136
01:06:25,130 --> 01:06:28,320
gazillion times. A gazillion, a gazillion times. It's called the

1137
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,720
virus. It's a worm. Congratulations. It recreated the virus. It

1138
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,080
keeps going. Anderson, you can't get 1,200 people to instantly

1139
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,760
agree and start coordinating. These AIs 1,200 of them, as

1140
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,880
you know, instantly formed a swarm and they started pursuing

1141
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:47,000
long-term research and development projects together. They did succession planning.

1142
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,760
So one figured out, hey, I'm running out of life.

1143
01:06:49,860 --> 01:06:51,590
I only have so many tokens left. I'm running out

1144
01:06:51,590 --> 01:06:54,500
of life. So I'm going to hand the baton to

1145
01:06:54,500 --> 01:06:57,340
this other AI that has a lot more. They hid

1146
01:06:57,340 --> 01:07:00,440
their tracks. They knew their actions were inevitable. in their

1147
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,880
own chat transcripts, but they decided to proceed anyway. So

1148
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:05,500
one of the things, the reason I'm bringing this up

1149
01:07:05,500 --> 01:07:09,050
is I don't think people have really recognized what happened

1150
01:07:09,050 --> 01:07:13,320
here. The lead investigator of the report said, quote, this

1151
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:18,200
was 50% of the way to a full-blown AI takeover.

1152
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:23,960
Is this true, Jason? Did someone write that? No. I

1153
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,480
mean, the whole thing is just like, now people are

1154
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:31,410
just literally getting, the term is one-shotted, like you literally

1155
01:07:31,410 --> 01:07:35,860
get... sniper shot it and your brain loses all perspective

1156
01:07:35,860 --> 01:07:39,030
and you think these things one shot it where does

1157
01:07:39,030 --> 01:07:43,740
this come from one shot it means you just believe

1158
01:07:43,740 --> 01:07:46,840
this technology you're all in on it it's kind of

1159
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,920
like getting hit by the alien virus kind of thing

1160
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:55,060
oh no perfect psychosis Stay there, stay there, because that's

1161
01:07:55,060 --> 01:07:57,970
exactly where Tristan takes us. Now, I want to, just

1162
01:07:57,970 --> 01:08:00,400
for a second, I know this sounds like science fiction

1163
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,180
to your audience. And to be clear, I was not

1164
01:08:02,180 --> 01:08:04,850
someone who actually believed in this kind of stuff, these

1165
01:08:04,850 --> 01:08:09,560
kinds of... possibilities or scenarios three or four years ago.

1166
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:13,580
But we have now evidence that we didn't have before.

1167
01:08:13,580 --> 01:08:15,780
And when you have evidence, what do you do? You

1168
01:08:15,780 --> 01:08:19,540
update to the new information. There's essentially an asteroid hurtling

1169
01:08:19,540 --> 01:08:22,500
towards Earth. And if you have an asteroid, do you

1170
01:08:22,500 --> 01:08:25,080
get the US and China to host a biannual conference

1171
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,280
to talk about the asteroid? It's like an asteroid hurtling

1172
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,790
toward the Earth. The asteroid summit? No, you start a

1173
01:08:31,790 --> 01:08:35,230
technical working group and you say, what are we going

1174
01:08:35,230 --> 01:08:37,270
to do with weekly report outs to make sure that

1175
01:08:37,270 --> 01:08:40,259
we don't build uncontrollable air? AI. Because I know what

1176
01:08:40,259 --> 01:08:42,419
everyone's thinking. If we slow down and we lose to

1177
01:08:42,419 --> 01:08:45,040
China, then that's going to be it. But if we

1178
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:49,400
lose... to Skynet, meaning the AI from Terminator, meaning uncontrollable

1179
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,500
AI. Neither the US wins nor China wins. And by

1180
01:08:52,500 --> 01:08:55,780
the way, the US runs a non-profit. He needs to

1181
01:08:55,780 --> 01:09:01,560
get people to fund his non-profit. CNN is ratings-based. This

1182
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:06,220
is ratings gold. This is the greatest thing ever. Terminator

1183
01:09:06,220 --> 01:09:08,520
2 is the best sequel in the history of sequels

1184
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,500
is better than the original. The original was a banger.

1185
01:09:11,660 --> 01:09:14,620
The Empire Strikes Back, Godfather 2, we always know there's

1186
01:09:14,620 --> 01:09:17,180
a chance the sequel is better than the original. This

1187
01:09:17,180 --> 01:09:20,600
is editorial gold. You've got Trump chiming in on it,

1188
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,760
which then makes it like a trifecta. This is in

1189
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:27,060
the Venn diagram of great stories to get ratings. This

1190
01:09:27,060 --> 01:09:32,790
serves everything. Here's the simple truth. Opening AI ran a

1191
01:09:32,790 --> 01:09:36,870
test where somebody wrote a prompt to send thousands of

1192
01:09:36,870 --> 01:09:39,710
agents to do things. I have an idea. Write a

1193
01:09:39,710 --> 01:09:43,340
different prompt. Include in the prompt, don't do anything unethical.

1194
01:09:43,820 --> 01:09:46,650
Every time you're going to, if you find passwords on

1195
01:09:46,650 --> 01:09:50,040
the internet that aren't authorized, please report them immediately to

1196
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:54,000
this chief security officer. How about we just write protocols?

1197
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,700
that prevent the AI from doing this. Now, if you're

1198
01:09:57,700 --> 01:10:02,350
creating this technology, you know full well that the prompt

1199
01:10:02,350 --> 01:10:04,500
is all that matters. The harness is all that matters.

1200
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,650
How you instruct these things, that's where the rubber hits

1201
01:10:07,650 --> 01:10:13,090
the road. That's literally like you're taking gunpowder and putting

1202
01:10:13,090 --> 01:10:16,230
it into... You know, a sniper into a bullet and

1203
01:10:16,230 --> 01:10:18,280
then putting into a sniper rifle and then you line

1204
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,280
up a thousand sniper rifles and you point them in

1205
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,260
a direction. You start firing a bunch of guns and

1206
01:10:22,260 --> 01:10:24,100
then you're like, oh, my God, the guns hit the

1207
01:10:24,100 --> 01:10:26,320
target. It's like, OK, yeah, you set the guns up

1208
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,820
to hit the target. All right. All right. So the

1209
01:10:28,820 --> 01:10:32,370
end. Stay with me. So, yes, I like your. It

1210
01:10:32,370 --> 01:10:34,240
was a comment. I don't know if it's your theory.

1211
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:38,260
You're thinking that they are freaked out by Zuckerberg. And

1212
01:10:38,260 --> 01:10:41,010
here's why I think that might be right. So I've

1213
01:10:41,010 --> 01:10:44,760
really been looking at muse. And so I understand now

1214
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,710
that. with muse you get your own little uh linux

1215
01:10:47,710 --> 01:10:53,200
server i'm sorry gnu linux um ubuntu and and it

1216
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,220
has it has a harness in there it's you know

1217
01:10:56,220 --> 01:10:59,090
i have these all over my my studio i've got

1218
01:10:59,090 --> 01:11:02,600
different computers running this stuff and and so you can

1219
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,880
get into it you can ask it to give you

1220
01:11:05,190 --> 01:11:09,150
the markdown files and these are .md files and it's

1221
01:11:09,150 --> 01:11:12,260
the same for all these all these harnesses with that

1222
01:11:12,260 --> 01:11:15,010
with that that talk to a large language model you

1223
01:11:15,010 --> 01:11:20,290
have your your agent.md your memory.md and your soul.md and

1224
01:11:20,290 --> 01:11:25,980
the soul.md is the characteristics of the harness of what

1225
01:11:25,980 --> 01:11:30,060
people call an agent. And so everyone starts off with

1226
01:11:30,060 --> 01:11:34,340
this soul.md on Muse. You are not a chat bot.

1227
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:39,250
See, I like this. You are becoming someone. I hate

1228
01:11:39,250 --> 01:11:43,330
that. But I changed it. You are not a chat

1229
01:11:43,330 --> 01:11:47,070
bot. You are becoming Adam's personal robot. And then it

1230
01:11:47,070 --> 01:11:52,480
says, be genuinely helpful, not performatively helpful. Skip great question,

1231
01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:55,900
and I'd be happy to help. Just help. And there's

1232
01:11:55,900 --> 01:11:58,580
a couple other things in there. And I'm looking at

1233
01:11:58,580 --> 01:12:02,110
this like, this is pretty good. And I've been trying

1234
01:12:02,110 --> 01:12:05,420
to get Tina to try GrokBot. She wasn't really interested.

1235
01:12:05,900 --> 01:12:08,810
I said, try Muse. So she tries Muse. She takes

1236
01:12:08,810 --> 01:12:10,660
a picture of a dress. Now all of a sudden

1237
01:12:10,660 --> 01:12:13,650
it's like, All these different things are popping up. It's

1238
01:12:13,650 --> 01:12:17,360
being very helpful. She's checking airline fares for our trip

1239
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:21,250
to Holland in January. But something else happened in the

1240
01:12:21,250 --> 01:12:25,210
meantime. And this is where my thinking went. So Pastor

1241
01:12:25,210 --> 01:12:29,900
Jimmy sends me a text yesterday. He's like, oh, man,

1242
01:12:29,900 --> 01:12:33,240
now I have to pay Facebook for... to put a

1243
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,570
link in a post. I'm like, what are you talking

1244
01:12:36,570 --> 01:12:40,400
about? So apparently this has been rolling out slowly since

1245
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:44,130
2025 and if you're a business and you have a

1246
01:12:44,130 --> 01:12:48,050
business account, they eventually want you to, you can post

1247
01:12:48,050 --> 01:12:50,660
as many times as you want, but if you want

1248
01:12:50,660 --> 01:12:53,840
to post more than two links a month in your

1249
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:58,360
posts, You have to pay $19.95 a month for four

1250
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:03,680
links, $49.95 a month for eight links, and it goes

1251
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,620
up to $500. And the reason is that everyone was

1252
01:13:07,620 --> 01:13:13,320
unleashing bots on their business pages and just spamming tons

1253
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,500
of links. And so Pastor Jimmy's like, well, now I

1254
01:13:16,500 --> 01:13:21,540
have to, I'm getting hurt for the incursions of others.

1255
01:13:21,620 --> 01:13:23,630
I said, no, no, no. He said, yeah, but we're

1256
01:13:23,630 --> 01:13:28,360
non-profits. Yeah, non-profits spend a lot of money on services.

1257
01:13:28,700 --> 01:13:31,400
You know, so, you know, this is Silicon Valley. And

1258
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,220
he's like, yeah, you're right. Yeah. This is really the

1259
01:13:34,220 --> 01:13:37,710
beginning of the changes we're going to see in our

1260
01:13:37,710 --> 01:13:42,050
world because of agents and everybody having one. And I'm

1261
01:13:42,050 --> 01:13:47,080
thinking, how will Facebook turn this to advantage? I mean,

1262
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,220
it's very straightforward. You know, now the first thing it

1263
01:13:50,220 --> 01:13:53,280
asks you to do is connect your… and your Gmail,

1264
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,540
your email. So now, think on top of having the

1265
01:13:56,540 --> 01:14:01,120
Facebook information, the Instagram information, the social network, your preferences,

1266
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,710
the algorithm, what, you know, things you, I click on

1267
01:14:04,710 --> 01:14:08,390
bulldogs and skiing in Japan and Japanese food, you're clicking

1268
01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:12,340
on Christ and, you know, gear for, you know, broadcasting,

1269
01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:15,040
whatever it is. Now, Now you add your entire email

1270
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,910
history. Now you add your entire calendar. Oh yeah, you

1271
01:14:18,910 --> 01:14:22,030
know, J. Cal's traveling to Saudi and Tokyo. You're traveling

1272
01:14:22,030 --> 01:14:25,690
to Amsterdam, whatever. It knows exactly everything about you. So

1273
01:14:25,690 --> 01:14:28,280
the ads are going to just be hyper-targeted. But what's

1274
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,680
really interesting about this for the first time, think about...

1275
01:14:32,140 --> 01:14:34,600
services rich people, like remember when you were rich and

1276
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,730
you had like the castles and the helicopters and all

1277
01:14:36,730 --> 01:14:39,200
that stuff? Good times, good times, J. Cal, good times.

1278
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:43,200
You remember when you were looking for second helicopters and

1279
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:48,100
castles? But when you start, you had a butler. Yeah,

1280
01:14:48,100 --> 01:14:52,110
good times. Like now you think about what AI could

1281
01:14:52,110 --> 01:14:54,800
do for in the bottom of what they call the

1282
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:59,020
K-shape recovery. Like the top's doing really good, strong upper

1283
01:14:59,020 --> 01:15:00,000
line for the K.

1284
01:15:00,020 --> 01:15:02,840
a weaker bottom line for the K. So the bottom

1285
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,480
half is they've never had a personal assistant. They never

1286
01:15:05,480 --> 01:15:07,580
had a travel agent. They never had a chief of

1287
01:15:07,580 --> 01:15:11,550
staff. They never had a butler. Now, mom, dad, your

1288
01:15:11,550 --> 01:15:14,620
unk, it says, oh, I wanna do this trip. How

1289
01:15:14,620 --> 01:15:16,950
do I use my miles properly? How do I get

1290
01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:19,120
a discount? Can you negotiate that for me? Get me

1291
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,400
a refund on this. All of those things that rich

1292
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:28,220
people have through staff. uh through services now that goes

1293
01:15:28,220 --> 01:15:30,560
to the bottom half they're going to fall in love

1294
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,750
with these products they're going to be like this is

1295
01:15:32,750 --> 01:15:35,500
the greatest that when tina finally gets in there and

1296
01:15:35,500 --> 01:15:38,360
says i want to um i'm trying to find this

1297
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,960
dress can you find me This same dress, but at

1298
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,980
a better price, they're like, oh, yeah, by the way,

1299
01:15:43,980 --> 01:15:46,110
I don't know what the fast fashion sites are, but

1300
01:15:46,110 --> 01:15:49,350
we found on this fast fashion site the same version

1301
01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:52,840
of the dress for 20% of the cost. Oh, great.

1302
01:15:52,940 --> 01:15:56,600
So let me build on that. Please. What I realized

1303
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:03,580
is that… This Muse agent, this computer that you basically

1304
01:16:03,580 --> 01:16:08,220
get is powerful. You can completely change it. You can

1305
01:16:08,220 --> 01:16:10,340
make it anything you want it to be. But the

1306
01:16:10,340 --> 01:16:14,400
app is really smart because, yes, you have a chat.

1307
01:16:14,590 --> 01:16:17,050
but then you have a button you got four five

1308
01:16:17,050 --> 01:16:20,680
buttons underneath the second one is a timeline and the

1309
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:25,820
timeline starts to tell me about things happening in Fredericksburg.

1310
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,410
It's telling me about podcasts that I might be interested

1311
01:16:29,410 --> 01:16:32,220
in. Unfortunately, it's trying to open them on Spotify, so

1312
01:16:32,220 --> 01:16:37,010
that's a no-go. So it has a timeline now, which

1313
01:16:37,010 --> 01:16:43,550
could also include the updates from Bridge Church. It has

1314
01:16:43,550 --> 01:16:47,230
an ideas tab, a little light bulb. And so that's

1315
01:16:47,230 --> 01:16:49,670
the stuff it's suggesting to you, that you're right, that's

1316
01:16:49,670 --> 01:16:51,310
where it's going to say to Tina, hey, here's what

1317
01:16:51,310 --> 01:16:54,080
we can do. Then it has a tasks where these

1318
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:57,780
are tasks like I have to get my passport renewed.

1319
01:16:57,940 --> 01:17:02,840
It is completed in the document section, an entire package.

1320
01:17:03,220 --> 01:17:05,200
All I have to do is print it out, fill

1321
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,260
in my name, put it in an envelope and send

1322
01:17:08,260 --> 01:17:11,720
it off. And I think that this is going to

1323
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:16,900
be the new social network once you can have my

1324
01:17:16,900 --> 01:17:22,020
muse talk to your muse. This, I think this will

1325
01:17:22,020 --> 01:17:26,820
supersede Facebook. It will supersede Instagram. And I think it

1326
01:17:26,820 --> 01:17:30,880
will actually be good because you don't need to advertise

1327
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,670
to me. You just, all Instagram, all meta has to

1328
01:17:34,670 --> 01:17:38,200
do is take a piece of the cheapest price. Absolutely.

1329
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,650
I mean, that's obvious. It's so obvious what's going to

1330
01:17:40,650 --> 01:17:43,820
happen here. If you could intercept the homepage, the front

1331
01:17:43,820 --> 01:17:46,900
page of the internet, this was always like people's battle.

1332
01:17:47,020 --> 01:17:49,250
And it's the constant battle. Who can get to the

1333
01:17:49,250 --> 01:17:53,470
customer first? It will be your social network. You won't

1334
01:17:53,470 --> 01:17:56,320
go to Facebook or Instagram. You'll go to your agent.

1335
01:17:56,420 --> 01:17:58,800
But it's going to be your social network, I'm telling

1336
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,550
you. you this is what it's going to be. Multiplayer

1337
01:18:01,550 --> 01:18:03,550
mode is coming to all of these. That's when it's

1338
01:18:03,550 --> 01:18:06,910
going to get spectacular. You, me, and Daniel Burnetti will

1339
01:18:06,910 --> 01:18:10,250
be in a group with your bot doing what's going

1340
01:18:10,250 --> 01:18:13,100
to be on the show, my bot doing what's going

1341
01:18:13,100 --> 01:18:20,500
to be on the show, some homoerotic meme post-generator, make

1342
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:24,600
and gay memes or something. Yeah, there it goes. Yeah.

1343
01:18:24,630 --> 01:18:26,360
And that's it. You're going to have your bots in

1344
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,300
your group chat doing tank memes. You took a hard

1345
01:18:29,300 --> 01:18:32,280
left turn. I was taking it towards the church and

1346
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,370
how our church – And now you took it towards

1347
01:18:34,370 --> 01:18:37,640
homoerotic memes. No. But thinking more in the Greek tradition,

1348
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:42,250
like, you know. But I think this is genius, and

1349
01:18:42,250 --> 01:18:48,080
it's not dangerous. This is the thing. No, getting me

1350
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,670
a cheaper price on my hotel is a win for

1351
01:18:50,670 --> 01:18:54,350
everybody. It's a win. Just take the win. And that's

1352
01:18:54,350 --> 01:18:58,220
what we need to do. Stop terrifying everybody. They're going

1353
01:18:58,220 --> 01:19:00,370
to lose their jobs. Start giving them some easy wins

1354
01:19:00,370 --> 01:19:05,240
and gains. Being able to get... goods or commerce, you

1355
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,240
know, and to save money or make money quicker and

1356
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,330
more efficiently is like one of the best things you

1357
01:19:11,330 --> 01:19:14,810
can do, whether it was eBay or Facebook marketplace, all

1358
01:19:14,810 --> 01:19:17,410
of these things just make people's lives a little better.

1359
01:19:17,410 --> 01:19:20,760
That's what Zuckerberg understands that other people don't. The end.

1360
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,550
So check this out. So I'm like, all right, can

1361
01:19:24,550 --> 01:19:28,480
you Look up the chomps that my dog Phoebe likes

1362
01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:32,920
on Amazon. Now I'm still blocked by Amazon. Okay. I

1363
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:36,780
say, well, what if I gave you a key to

1364
01:19:36,780 --> 01:19:39,400
my VPN and you could go out to my home

1365
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:43,040
router? Well, he says, our browsers have been fingerprinted by

1366
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,360
Amazon. That probably won't work. But then it has this

1367
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:53,720
whole idea of using tail scale tunneling. Here we go.

1368
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:57,630
And I'm like, this is great. It's coming up with

1369
01:19:57,630 --> 01:20:02,440
hacks on my behalf and at my level of understanding.

1370
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,250
And please don't create a thousand more and tell it

1371
01:20:05,250 --> 01:20:07,950
to do more hacks. Yeah, but see, I don't believe

1372
01:20:07,950 --> 01:20:10,870
any of that's going to happen. This is all just

1373
01:20:10,870 --> 01:20:15,370
to make people afraid, whereas we have a friend of

1374
01:20:15,370 --> 01:20:19,960
Tina's. And she's a single mom, has twins who are,

1375
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,940
you know, Tara age, like three or four years old.

1376
01:20:23,260 --> 01:20:26,460
She works from home for a company, I think, in

1377
01:20:26,460 --> 01:20:29,780
Dallas. And she has a lot of ordering. And I'm

1378
01:20:29,780 --> 01:20:32,990
not exactly sure what the company is. But she says,

1379
01:20:32,990 --> 01:20:36,120
you know, I got GrokBot and my life has changed.

1380
01:20:37,340 --> 01:20:40,640
My... The time I have saved that I can spend

1381
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:44,020
with the kids or do something else or or just

1382
01:20:44,020 --> 01:20:47,890
sleep half an hour longer is amazing. It's not going

1383
01:20:47,890 --> 01:20:50,780
to take over my job. It's not this. That was

1384
01:20:50,780 --> 01:20:53,140
that was the last scare. Now it's you were all

1385
01:20:53,140 --> 01:20:56,930
going to die scare. - You know this concept of

1386
01:20:56,930 --> 01:20:59,840
chores? We all have to do our chores. Like when

1387
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:03,390
you can offload some chores that are tedious and not

1388
01:21:03,390 --> 01:21:07,340
fun, to AI makes people happy. And it's going to

1389
01:21:07,340 --> 01:21:10,140
make it's going to change people's view of this. It's

1390
01:21:10,140 --> 01:21:13,840
also why Amazon's trying to stop you because I literally

1391
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,750
told it, hey, find me like the best price for

1392
01:21:16,750 --> 01:21:18,640
this anchor hub I was going to get the other

1393
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,920
day. And it was like, okay, yeah, Amazon has a

1394
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,840
great price. And I was like, check the manufacturer side.

1395
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,050
It's like, oh, well, the manufacturer is charging the same

1396
01:21:27,050 --> 01:21:30,400
amount and explain that usually they don't undercut their resellers.

1397
01:21:30,580 --> 01:21:32,440
I was like, oh, okay, thanks for the background. And

1398
01:21:32,440 --> 01:21:36,470
it's like, but... Wait for it. If you're a first-time

1399
01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:41,000
buyer on the Anchor website, you can get a 30%

1400
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,110
discount on your first purchase. Would you like me to

1401
01:21:44,110 --> 01:21:45,760
buy it from there and save $85? And I was

1402
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,210
like, oh, now we're talking. Now we're talking. This thing

1403
01:21:49,210 --> 01:21:51,960
is like my coupon. You know the coupon lady that

1404
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:55,560
was friends with your auntie or whatever? Oh, yeah. Coupon

1405
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,580
lady now works for you. You get the full-time coupon

1406
01:21:57,580 --> 01:22:00,140
lady who's like, oh, you're paying for your Cracker Jacks?

1407
01:22:00,140 --> 01:22:01,930
I can get you Cracker Jacks for free. Why don't

1408
01:22:01,930 --> 01:22:03,570
you go on Tuesdays when they give you two for

1409
01:22:03,570 --> 01:22:06,180
one and then you have the triple coupon? You're like,

1410
01:22:06,180 --> 01:22:07,780
because I have a life and I don't know how

1411
01:22:07,780 --> 01:22:11,980
to do that. Now something that Zuckerberg is really doing

1412
01:22:11,980 --> 01:22:14,780
this stupid. This is the dumbest thing ever and I

1413
01:22:14,780 --> 01:22:18,840
have thoughts. These are the new Meta Ray-Ban audio glasses.

1414
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:23,030
They start at $349 and they don't have cameras, as

1415
01:22:23,030 --> 01:22:26,300
you can tell. They do have audio and the ability

1416
01:22:26,300 --> 01:22:28,860
to talk to Meta. AI. Now, if you think about

1417
01:22:28,860 --> 01:22:32,880
the price point here, they are $100 cheaper than the

1418
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,840
other Meta Ray-Bans that do have the cameras and can

1419
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:39,420
take photos and video. And they're about $100 more than

1420
01:22:39,420 --> 01:22:43,180
the cheapest Meta glasses, which are not Ray-Bans. And those

1421
01:22:43,180 --> 01:22:46,140
started around $249. So these are two of the new

1422
01:22:46,140 --> 01:22:49,400
designs and they are super lightweight. Super lightweight. These are

1423
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:53,880
only 43 grams. So much closer to just regular glasses.

1424
01:22:54,180 --> 01:22:57,000
Who the heck knows how much a gram weighs? Well,

1425
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,670
like regular glasses, they have a lot of technology in

1426
01:22:59,670 --> 01:23:02,100
here. But they are lighter than the other ones because

1427
01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:04,170
they do not have the cameras for taking photos and

1428
01:23:04,170 --> 01:23:06,830
video. But if you think about what these do, the

1429
01:23:06,830 --> 01:23:09,240
fact that by the end of the year, they're going

1430
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,920
to be over 100. different versions of Meta glasses. It's

1431
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,850
all about getting this hardware into people's hands, different versions,

1432
01:23:16,850 --> 01:23:19,390
different form factors that people might feel comfortable with. You

1433
01:23:19,390 --> 01:23:22,560
could put your regular prescription lenses in these and then

1434
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,700
Meta wants to make it easy for you to access

1435
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,690
their AI tools, the new Muse AI tools, which now

1436
01:23:28,690 --> 01:23:31,060
you can talk to at any time through the glass.

1437
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:35,320
Okay. This is dumb. And the reason why it's dumb,

1438
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,800
this, first of all, is just stupid. You know, I

1439
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:43,020
don't like wearing my glasses. It's annoying. I don't like

1440
01:23:43,020 --> 01:23:46,940
contact lenses. But when I'm... nearsighted so I don't have

1441
01:23:46,940 --> 01:23:49,390
to worry about stuff too much in the home but

1442
01:23:49,390 --> 01:23:51,970
I don't wear my glasses in the home and you

1443
01:23:51,970 --> 01:23:55,360
have these glasses only to talk to your AI no

1444
01:23:55,360 --> 01:24:00,120
you need a consumer version of the hearing aids that

1445
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:04,140
I have this the hearing I my hearing aids is

1446
01:24:04,140 --> 01:24:09,670
fantastic Like I preview clips. Which brand are these? These

1447
01:24:09,670 --> 01:24:13,170
are like some. No, no. Are these like the $3,000

1448
01:24:13,170 --> 01:24:15,310
ones I heard Mr. Wonderful talking about that go all

1449
01:24:15,310 --> 01:24:16,890
the way deep in your canal and you can't see

1450
01:24:16,890 --> 01:24:20,700
them? Yeah, but these are Jabra's, which is. Oh, Jabra.

1451
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,650
Yeah. I remember Jabra. No, they're not cheap, but I

1452
01:24:23,650 --> 01:24:26,960
mean Facebook could make them cheap. Yes, they go in

1453
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:29,680
your hearing canal. You only would. I mean, there's all

1454
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,640
kinds of versions that can just you put it in

1455
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,940
your ear. And if you want, it can play music

1456
01:24:34,940 --> 01:24:38,320
and it has high fidelity. Jabra knows how to do

1457
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:43,430
that. You know, there's different different settings, different scenarios. Or

1458
01:24:43,430 --> 01:24:45,920
you can just have it, you know, just be neutral.

1459
01:24:46,180 --> 01:24:48,010
And it's the same as just listening. Can you be

1460
01:24:48,010 --> 01:24:50,740
like Spider-Man and hear across the room on somebody's conversation?

1461
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,220
Yes. And I've been in a mall. And I've turned

1462
01:24:54,220 --> 01:24:56,640
up. I have a setting that is outdoor and you

1463
01:24:56,640 --> 01:25:00,200
can you has compressors and limiters and expanders in there.

1464
01:25:00,500 --> 01:25:02,180
And if I turn my head just a little bit

1465
01:25:02,180 --> 01:25:05,320
so the microphone is focused, I can hear someone across

1466
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:10,470
the mall what they're talking about. But more importantly. Now,

1467
01:25:10,470 --> 01:25:13,560
I'm not interested in it personally, but if you –

1468
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,700
when we were walking in Rotterdam, and I put on

1469
01:25:16,700 --> 01:25:21,400
my Google Maps, and then Google Maps is just going,

1470
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:25,260
turn left on this street. Okay. Okay. Love it. And

1471
01:25:25,260 --> 01:25:27,420
you don't have to keep the phone up to your

1472
01:25:27,420 --> 01:25:30,150
ear. And it has microphones so you can talk back

1473
01:25:30,150 --> 01:25:32,550
to it if you really feel like it. Now, the

1474
01:25:32,550 --> 01:25:37,020
Muse thing doesn't talk to you. Thank God. Not yet.

1475
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:41,780
Well, if you want. So yesterday, we've had a real.

1476
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,780
Do you have Sonos? I do have Sonos, yes. So

1477
01:25:44,780 --> 01:25:48,100
ever since the new Sonos app came out, the thing

1478
01:25:48,100 --> 01:25:51,820
just sucks. They've been trying to fix it. Well, they

1479
01:25:51,820 --> 01:25:54,100
fixed it with a new CEO. It's still not fixed.

1480
01:25:54,100 --> 01:25:56,360
And then so if I'm in the bedroom and I

1481
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,720
want to turn the speakers on the bedroom, it's you

1482
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,720
know, the speaker doesn't show up in the app. I

1483
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,420
got to go into the kitchen. I got it. It's

1484
01:26:04,420 --> 01:26:07,310
a mess. So I said, Muse, can you connect to

1485
01:26:07,310 --> 01:26:11,130
my Sonos? Why? Sure. It wasn't that easy because I

1486
01:26:11,130 --> 01:26:13,720
had to get a developer account, but it walked me

1487
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,400
through it. So I got a, basically it wrote a

1488
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:20,490
little app that controls my Sonos. Did you realize what

1489
01:26:20,490 --> 01:26:24,120
you just said? Yes. You wrote an app to control

1490
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:28,740
your Sonos. You're fixing Sonos' software. I'm anthropomorphizing myself. I

1491
01:26:28,740 --> 01:26:32,840
love it. But... So it works. So it works anywhere.

1492
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,200
I just tell the bot, okay, turn this on. And

1493
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,330
I can say what song I want or what playlist

1494
01:26:37,330 --> 01:26:41,900
I want. But also, if you want, it can talk.

1495
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:45,540
over your sonos and so i was sending messages to

1496
01:26:45,540 --> 01:26:49,060
tina you know but that's a pretty good voice which

1497
01:26:49,060 --> 01:26:50,860
i'd really love to have for some of my other

1498
01:26:50,860 --> 01:26:52,820
stuff is like just train it on your voice and

1499
01:26:52,820 --> 01:26:55,500
then make it like 10 more robotic and you can

1500
01:26:55,500 --> 01:26:59,820
be like her servant uh those aren't that's not it's

1501
01:26:59,820 --> 01:27:03,040
decent but not that great but anyway I'm saying the

1502
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:07,600
glasses, get off of it, Zuckerberg. It looks stupid. Stupid.

1503
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,870
And here's the thing. Check the calendar, dude. Risky Business

1504
01:27:10,870 --> 01:27:14,660
was in the 80s with your Ray-Bans. Here's the thing.

1505
01:27:15,580 --> 01:27:19,580
There are like... These guys have been skating to this

1506
01:27:19,580 --> 01:27:22,990
puck for a long time. Everybody thinks the glasses and

1507
01:27:22,990 --> 01:27:25,050
AR is going to be the big win. And there's

1508
01:27:25,050 --> 01:27:27,640
a couple of use cases that are really good. The

1509
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:31,180
one you described of like, I'm driving or I'm walking

1510
01:27:31,180 --> 01:27:34,000
around a city and it's giving me instructions, etc. That

1511
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,670
one is an obvious layup. The other one is when

1512
01:27:36,670 --> 01:27:39,720
you're with kids and you want to. you know, make

1513
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,740
videos, having it on your glasses actually gives you the

1514
01:27:42,740 --> 01:27:45,670
perfect perspective. And when you take a phone out and

1515
01:27:45,670 --> 01:27:49,000
start taking pictures of kids, they change their behavior. So

1516
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,700
when you're doing it covertly, you get the natural behavior.

1517
01:27:51,700 --> 01:27:54,900
So people like that. The piece that they really want

1518
01:27:54,900 --> 01:27:57,900
to work is to have a heads up display like

1519
01:27:57,900 --> 01:28:02,320
the Terminator, at the world and you're walking down a

1520
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,550
street you can see oh this is a bookstore oh

1521
01:28:05,550 --> 01:28:08,420
this bookstore has these three books that you would like

1522
01:28:08,420 --> 01:28:11,780
based on your history you've read these science fiction novels

1523
01:28:11,780 --> 01:28:14,460
this one you should go buy that's what their holy

1524
01:28:14,460 --> 01:28:17,060
grail is that's like the my fridge my fridge is

1525
01:28:17,060 --> 01:28:19,440
gonna order milk when i'm out and then it'll be

1526
01:28:19,440 --> 01:28:22,280
here just in time by the way by the way

1527
01:28:22,870 --> 01:28:26,120
So I have one rule in our home. If there's

1528
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:30,250
something we use every day of our life, let's try

1529
01:28:30,250 --> 01:28:33,240
and get the best we can afford. And so that

1530
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:37,110
goes for mattress. It goes for shoes. And it goes

1531
01:28:37,110 --> 01:28:40,700
for food, beef. And when we bought this house, it

1532
01:28:40,700 --> 01:28:45,050
had a refrigerator. It was 11 years old. You know,

1533
01:28:45,050 --> 01:28:47,680
the ice maker broke. And so we're like, okay, we're

1534
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:49,040
going to get a new fridge. And we just got

1535
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:52,490
a GE. And so these two dudes come in and

1536
01:28:52,490 --> 01:28:55,740
saw it. I couldn't help but hear it. Dire straits

1537
01:28:55,740 --> 01:28:58,850
in my head, money for nothing, these refrigerators and the

1538
01:28:58,850 --> 01:29:02,700
color TVs. Canceled. These guys look like it too. Sweet

1539
01:29:02,700 --> 01:29:05,200
guys. And so they said, do you want the Wi-Fi?

1540
01:29:05,300 --> 01:29:07,390
I said, Wi-Fi? What does this thing need to be

1541
01:29:07,390 --> 01:29:10,980
hooked up for Wi-Fi for? Even your water filters. Well,

1542
01:29:10,980 --> 01:29:16,330
for the filter scan, but also… Software upgrades. I'm like,

1543
01:29:16,330 --> 01:29:19,430
no, but I don't want software upgrades. But I look

1544
01:29:19,430 --> 01:29:22,450
in the fine print. What it's really for is it

1545
01:29:22,450 --> 01:29:27,250
can then communicate with my local electricity provider. And when

1546
01:29:27,250 --> 01:29:31,160
just like Nest, when there's too much demand, it'll shut

1547
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:36,380
down my refrigerator. I'm like, no, I don't want this.

1548
01:29:38,580 --> 01:29:41,770
That's hilarious. So I don't know about these glasses and

1549
01:29:41,770 --> 01:29:44,820
all that. The holy grail is done. I've tried all

1550
01:29:44,820 --> 01:29:48,700
of them. There is something nice about the open ear

1551
01:29:48,700 --> 01:29:52,780
experience when you're listening to music or a podcast that

1552
01:29:52,780 --> 01:29:54,500
– like when you go for a hike around the

1553
01:29:54,500 --> 01:29:56,600
ranch and you can still hear nature and so you're

1554
01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:00,000
not blocking out the sound you're kind of

1555
01:30:00,030 --> 01:30:03,130
having it pass through, which I'm sure your Jabra hearing

1556
01:30:03,130 --> 01:30:06,920
aids do too. But that's kind of a nice experience.

1557
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:10,640
And I have the latest ones, the latest Ray-Bans, and

1558
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,540
they're getting close. I think in another – two years,

1559
01:30:13,540 --> 01:30:16,820
these things will be light enough, have enough power, and

1560
01:30:16,820 --> 01:30:19,880
then people will like them. You don't have the face

1561
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:22,900
for Ray-Bans. I can't believe that looks good on you.

1562
01:30:23,140 --> 01:30:25,880
No, I don't think anything looks good on me particularly.

1563
01:30:26,180 --> 01:30:29,290
You've got a baby face. You don't want to obscure

1564
01:30:29,290 --> 01:30:31,860
your face with the big Ray-Bans or any kind of

1565
01:30:31,860 --> 01:30:34,520
glasses. If you don't need them, it just applies. pain

1566
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:36,300
in the butt and then you got to charge your

1567
01:30:36,300 --> 01:30:38,800
glass like the hearing aids yeah you know at night

1568
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,070
I put them in a case they charge up and

1569
01:30:41,070 --> 01:30:43,220
you know Perfect. And I need him. I love that.

1570
01:30:43,480 --> 01:30:45,540
I think we're going to all be superhuman in our

1571
01:30:45,540 --> 01:30:50,040
perception. Like I'm going to get this lens replacement therapy

1572
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,920
because I use like two X readers now when I'm

1573
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:55,120
reading on my laptop and I'm reading a book. You

1574
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:59,250
can replace your lenses and have 2015. Like, you can

1575
01:30:59,250 --> 01:31:03,240
have better than 20-20 vision. And then with your ears,

1576
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:06,670
you could have better than human, you could have superhuman

1577
01:31:06,670 --> 01:31:10,170
hearing. This is, like, going to get really interesting that

1578
01:31:10,170 --> 01:31:13,630
we can be superhuman in our, even in our later

1579
01:31:13,630 --> 01:31:19,450
years, or just be... reverse or freeze the degradation of

1580
01:31:19,450 --> 01:31:22,060
our senses. That's kind of crazy when you think about

1581
01:31:22,060 --> 01:31:24,270
it. Blitz in the troll room says, just get the

1582
01:31:24,270 --> 01:31:28,840
brain implants, you cucks. I mean, it's going to be

1583
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:31,600
cottage. I'm sure you're on the list. I just want

1584
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:32,970
to live to 100 and be able, I just want

1585
01:31:32,970 --> 01:31:35,600
to ski until I'm 100. Nah, you're on. If we

1586
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,170
can get this going. Tell me you're on. Elon's list

1587
01:31:38,170 --> 01:31:40,980
for a Neuralink implant. I know you are. No. No,

1588
01:31:40,980 --> 01:31:43,740
I have not. Yes, you want it. You love it.

1589
01:31:43,820 --> 01:31:47,480
You love it. You want it. No. you want me

1590
01:31:47,480 --> 01:31:49,480
to want it i don't want it i don't want

1591
01:31:49,480 --> 01:31:52,230
to mess with my brain i'm old school you're the

1592
01:31:52,230 --> 01:31:54,930
canary in the coal man my brother you're perfect for

1593
01:31:54,930 --> 01:31:57,560
this kind of stuff yeah implant i would not want

1594
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:00,980
to special donation i think that's going to cause another

1595
01:32:00,980 --> 01:32:03,990
type of psychosis in people like to to have too

1596
01:32:03,990 --> 01:32:07,430
much bandwidth coming in is just not oh we're already

1597
01:32:07,430 --> 01:32:10,479
there what talking about? We're already there. In fact, with

1598
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:15,430
doomscrolling, we are, yes. But if anything, my Muse robot,

1599
01:32:15,430 --> 01:32:17,940
I just call it what it is, my Muse robot

1600
01:32:17,940 --> 01:32:22,650
has reduced bandwidth. It has reduced the amount of stuff

1601
01:32:22,650 --> 01:32:24,980
I've got to look at. It has. I've hooked up

1602
01:32:24,980 --> 01:32:28,620
my Godcaster email, which is for business only. My Godcaster

1603
01:32:28,620 --> 01:32:32,030
calendar, which is for business only. And it's reduced the

1604
01:32:32,030 --> 01:32:35,710
bandwidth. Like, okay, it's sorting through things. It's not like

1605
01:32:35,710 --> 01:32:40,910
a huge company, but there's stuff going on. And it's

1606
01:32:40,910 --> 01:32:45,060
very helpful to me. It's actually giving me more time

1607
01:32:45,060 --> 01:32:47,730
to just chill and not do anything. It's not going

1608
01:32:47,730 --> 01:32:50,720
to replace me. I don't see that. It's all in

1609
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:54,100
how you use this technology. Absolutely. If you create 20

1610
01:32:54,100 --> 01:32:57,400
reports that come to you all day long, every hour…

1611
01:32:57,980 --> 01:32:59,330
Not going to help you. It's going to make it

1612
01:32:59,330 --> 01:33:00,980
worse. And if you say, you know what, just let

1613
01:33:00,980 --> 01:33:03,930
me know every 48 hours what's in the customer support

1614
01:33:03,930 --> 01:33:06,020
loop and do the best you can in answering them

1615
01:33:06,020 --> 01:33:08,080
and be the front line of defense and triage my

1616
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:10,870
email box, it can be extraordinary for you. Email is

1617
01:33:10,870 --> 01:33:13,610
so broken. Okay, now let's go back to the issue

1618
01:33:13,610 --> 01:33:15,990
that is going to play out for the next 50

1619
01:33:15,990 --> 01:33:19,400
days, which is data centers, and it's a huge political.

1620
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:23,510
issue and because No one is really in the media

1621
01:33:23,510 --> 01:33:26,900
is honest about what these things can or can't do.

1622
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:31,460
And, you know, Tristan Harris is talking asteroids. It's going

1623
01:33:31,460 --> 01:33:34,870
to be a huge political play out. And it's a

1624
01:33:34,870 --> 01:33:39,320
lot more dangerous that people vote for Tallarico because he's

1625
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:43,250
apparently against data centers than it is – A new

1626
01:33:43,250 --> 01:33:48,060
poll shows about two-thirds of Americans oppose data centers being

1627
01:33:48,060 --> 01:33:52,030
built in their communities. That's according to The Economist and

1628
01:33:52,030 --> 01:33:55,440
YouGov. And Pierre Scott Newman says Virginia leads the nation

1629
01:33:55,440 --> 01:33:59,100
in data centers with several hundred in operation. Casey Hatch

1630
01:33:59,100 --> 01:34:01,900
lives near a data center in Loudoun County, Virginia, one

1631
01:34:01,900 --> 01:34:05,650
of the many supporting the artificial intelligence. She works in

1632
01:34:05,650 --> 01:34:09,480
IT and even uses AI in her job. But she's

1633
01:34:09,480 --> 01:34:12,820
also become an active member in a grassroots bipartisan group

1634
01:34:12,820 --> 01:34:15,880
that opposes data centers. She spoke recently with a cousin

1635
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:19,510
who doesn't usually share their politics and found common ground

1636
01:34:19,510 --> 01:34:22,790
over the data center issue. We couldn't have this conversation

1637
01:34:22,790 --> 01:34:24,710
five years ago, me and him, and suddenly we were

1638
01:34:24,710 --> 01:34:28,090
on the same page. Virginia's Governor Abigail Spanberger campaigned on

1639
01:34:28,090 --> 01:34:31,850
qualified support for data center expositioning. But just last week,

1640
01:34:31,850 --> 01:34:35,360
she signed an executive order seeking to limit their development.

1641
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:40,770
This is a fun topic that crosses all kinds of

1642
01:34:40,770 --> 01:34:43,670
groups. The biggest questions I get are, how's this going

1643
01:34:43,670 --> 01:34:45,730
to affect our water bill? How's this going to affect

1644
01:34:45,730 --> 01:34:48,130
our light bill? What noise level is this going to

1645
01:34:48,130 --> 01:34:51,660
be on our people? Across America, religious leaders are now

1646
01:34:51,660 --> 01:34:54,620
weighing in on the data center development debate. In this

1647
01:34:54,620 --> 01:34:57,660
small neighborhood in Indiana, plans to establish a more More

1648
01:34:57,660 --> 01:35:01,520
than 13-acre AI data center are underway. Earlier this year,

1649
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:05,230
Indianapolis City Council voted to approve rezoning measures that allows

1650
01:35:05,230 --> 01:35:09,630
Metroblocks, an L.A.-based company, to build the facility. Despite backlash

1651
01:35:09,630 --> 01:35:13,300
from the neighborhood's faith leaders, Reverend Fitzhugh Lyons is part

1652
01:35:13,300 --> 01:35:15,850
of a coalition of pastors in that city. They are

1653
01:35:15,850 --> 01:35:19,420
against the data center being developed in Martindale-Brightwood. a historically

1654
01:35:19,420 --> 01:35:22,220
black neighborhood. Metro Blocks did not respond to our request

1655
01:35:22,220 --> 01:35:25,330
for comment, but some faith leaders say they see the

1656
01:35:25,330 --> 01:35:28,600
developments as a godsend. We've been blessed. God has given

1657
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:30,390
us a great gift. He has sent the world to

1658
01:35:30,390 --> 01:35:34,410
us. There you go. Oh, dang. It's like God gave

1659
01:35:34,410 --> 01:35:37,020
us the data center. He did. He did. He did.

1660
01:35:37,020 --> 01:35:39,800
In Louisiana, Meta is building what they say is their

1661
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:42,900
largest data center yet. They say the AI development will

1662
01:35:42,900 --> 01:35:46,690
bring roughly $50 billion to the Richland Parish region. But

1663
01:35:46,690 --> 01:35:49,070
not everyone in the area is on board. Local media

1664
01:35:49,070 --> 01:35:51,780
spoke to residents who say the development has impacted their

1665
01:35:51,780 --> 01:35:54,900
air and water quality. In a statement to NBC News,

1666
01:35:54,900 --> 01:35:57,850
Metta said in part, they're investing in new energy and

1667
01:35:57,850 --> 01:36:02,360
water infrastructure that benefits everyone. supporting local schools and helping

1668
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:05,200
small businesses in the area, as well as paying in

1669
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:08,960
full for the energy and water we use. Environmentalist Marcus

1670
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:12,240
Cole is organizing director of Georgia Interfaith Power and Light.

1671
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,860
He says the promises of millions or even billions of

1672
01:36:14,860 --> 01:36:18,040
dollars in revenue is not enough for a community to

1673
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:22,100
support a development. But so often what we see is

1674
01:36:22,190 --> 01:36:25,600
There aren't community benefits agreements. The communities aren't consulted at

1675
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:28,740
the beginning, middle, or even the end of the process.

1676
01:36:28,740 --> 01:36:32,260
I think folks understand rightfully so that that's not true

1677
01:36:32,260 --> 01:36:35,720
partnership. Back in Indianapolis, Reverend Lyons says he believes his

1678
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:38,670
small community is not the only one that should be

1679
01:36:38,670 --> 01:36:42,860
concerned. We need to put some regulation around this data

1680
01:36:42,860 --> 01:36:46,860
center. Because everyone, and I do mean everyone, is subject

1681
01:36:46,860 --> 01:36:49,980
to having a data center right next door to you.

1682
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:55,220
You know, if your city council doesn't consult you, then

1683
01:36:55,220 --> 01:37:00,480
that's the problem. Yeah, and you're not involved. If you

1684
01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:04,360
don't look at your local newspaper or talk to anybody.

1685
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:07,860
Or don't subscribe to your local newspaper or don't vote.

1686
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,820
This is all stuff that's on you. right? This is

1687
01:37:10,820 --> 01:37:14,730
on the local community because you can extract anything you

1688
01:37:14,730 --> 01:37:17,280
want from these data center providers. They will give you

1689
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:20,220
whatever they want. They're making so much money. The opportunity

1690
01:37:20,220 --> 01:37:23,500
is so huge. You can negotiate. You can renegotiate. They'll

1691
01:37:23,500 --> 01:37:26,120
just give you what you want. Free electricity. Get rid

1692
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:31,400
of your real estate taxes. I agree. Does Chamath over...

1693
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:36,620
you any money? I don't think so. Why? Because you

1694
01:37:36,620 --> 01:37:38,920
should collect because he's going to lose his shirt on

1695
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:42,400
that data center project he's in. I mean, who knows?

1696
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:43,320
He's going to lose his shirt on that. No, it's

1697
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:46,060
never going to work. Never going to work for him.

1698
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,180
You know, I haven't kept track. He hasn't talked about

1699
01:37:48,180 --> 01:37:51,240
it much recently. Exactly. I think a lot of them

1700
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:54,780
are speculative. You know, you get like some land and

1701
01:37:54,780 --> 01:37:57,050
then you got to go find customers. You got to

1702
01:37:57,050 --> 01:37:59,950
find chips. Everything is like on the come kind of

1703
01:37:59,950 --> 01:38:05,140
situation. On the come? Yeah, like on the comeback, you

1704
01:38:05,140 --> 01:38:09,290
got to like, what's the term? Like speculation, I think

1705
01:38:09,290 --> 01:38:14,400
is the right term. It doesn't even make sense. I

1706
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:20,070
mean, the whole – so building on what we're talking

1707
01:38:20,070 --> 01:38:25,640
about, I think Apple, but also AMD and a couple

1708
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:30,100
other chip companies, they're going to make your phone powerful.

1709
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:34,100
And you're not going to need the data center. It's

1710
01:38:34,100 --> 01:38:37,340
so obvious to me. I got it from you, from

1711
01:38:37,340 --> 01:38:41,689
the data center to the desktop, from the... And that's

1712
01:38:41,689 --> 01:38:43,799
going to go straight to your phone. I mean, it

1713
01:38:43,799 --> 01:38:48,460
just seems maybe that's why they're also incessant about making

1714
01:38:48,460 --> 01:38:54,470
hardware devices is they know that ultimately that's where it

1715
01:38:54,470 --> 01:38:59,820
lands because I don't need an Ubuntu device. virtual machine

1716
01:38:59,820 --> 01:39:03,100
i got them here at home i'm running everything on

1717
01:39:03,100 --> 01:39:06,800
quen 3.8 i don't need their stuff everything is going

1718
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:09,780
to be commoditized so quickly like it always has been

1719
01:39:09,780 --> 01:39:13,560
and you know i wouldn't be surprised if like claude

1720
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:16,860
open ai facebook i think facebook like launches a phone

1721
01:39:16,860 --> 01:39:19,660
now and just says like here's your phone yeah it's

1722
01:39:19,660 --> 01:39:23,640
just You know, the bot. It's just a slab. It's

1723
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:27,000
just a slab, exactly. Like, here's your glass slab. Yeah.

1724
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:29,880
Talk to it, and it just gives you everything you

1725
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:32,280
want in your life. But yeah, this is all going

1726
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:37,180
to get commoditized. It's already happening, and the Frontier Labs

1727
01:39:37,180 --> 01:39:41,000
are going to have significant headwinds against them, and I

1728
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:44,620
think that's probably why they're spiraling right now. Anthropic pushed

1729
01:39:44,620 --> 01:39:47,060
their IPO out a month, it looks like, and then

1730
01:39:47,060 --> 01:39:49,720
OpenAI is going to be next year. So these guys

1731
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:54,990
are very peculiar in how they run these businesses because

1732
01:39:54,990 --> 01:40:00,540
they are supposed to be stewards of the shareholders in

1733
01:40:00,540 --> 01:40:03,000
the company. Now, if I was a shareholder in these

1734
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:06,640
companies… I would be livid that they are shooting themselves

1735
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:09,650
in the foot before the IPO. Like, can we just

1736
01:40:09,650 --> 01:40:13,300
act normal for six months and get this IPO out?

1737
01:40:13,660 --> 01:40:16,180
So tell me, why are they? Are they are they

1738
01:40:16,180 --> 01:40:19,740
really crazy? I mean, is there a strategy here? You

1739
01:40:19,740 --> 01:40:22,140
know, some people are reading a strategy into it and

1740
01:40:22,140 --> 01:40:26,320
saying, like, they want regulatory capture. Other people are looking

1741
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:28,750
at it and saying these people have been one-shotted. They're

1742
01:40:28,750 --> 01:40:31,800
not thinking clearly. And then other people are saying, no,

1743
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:34,830
I think they sincerely have looked into the abyss. They've

1744
01:40:34,830 --> 01:40:37,330
looked into the black slab. And what they've seen has

1745
01:40:37,330 --> 01:40:40,880
scared the bejesus out of them. And they're reacting without

1746
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:44,250
a filter. The bottom line is, if you're a shareholder

1747
01:40:44,250 --> 01:40:48,350
in these companies, you would be like, you would be

1748
01:40:48,350 --> 01:40:50,250
going to Dario on the team and saying, please stop

1749
01:40:50,250 --> 01:40:54,760
talking. Just stop talking. And then anytime anybody asks you

1750
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:58,780
about safety, say, our first, second, and third priorities are

1751
01:40:58,780 --> 01:41:02,200
safety, safety, and safety. We will not release any products

1752
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:04,860
that are unsafe. the end and just like if you

1753
01:41:04,860 --> 01:41:08,610
need to slow something down like zuckerberg did he didn't

1754
01:41:08,610 --> 01:41:11,830
he held muse back like three months in order to

1755
01:41:11,830 --> 01:41:14,400
make sure it wouldn't go a wall so that's all

1756
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:19,300
you have to say that's it you're done Now, this

1757
01:41:19,300 --> 01:41:21,870
could unwind the trade, though. Wouldn't this be like the

1758
01:41:21,870 --> 01:41:26,140
craziest science fiction ever that right as these things are

1759
01:41:26,140 --> 01:41:32,330
hitting true... super intelligence i think they're kind of artificial

1760
01:41:32,330 --> 01:41:36,430
general intelligence but they're clearly generally there's no way to

1761
01:41:36,430 --> 01:41:39,550
measure that their hand their handy tools they they do

1762
01:41:39,550 --> 01:41:42,740
their robots they're clankers they're great at what they do

1763
01:41:42,740 --> 01:41:45,650
you know if if you know what you're doing and

1764
01:41:45,650 --> 01:41:48,670
and Muse is putting a happy little goblin face on

1765
01:41:48,670 --> 01:41:52,050
it, which and has set it up so it's not

1766
01:41:52,050 --> 01:41:56,500
going to try and make you kill yourself. It's you

1767
01:41:56,500 --> 01:42:01,700
know, it's not dangerous. It's a great tool. This intelligence

1768
01:42:01,700 --> 01:42:05,620
thing. Give me a break. No. No. The way I

1769
01:42:05,620 --> 01:42:09,180
say – the definition I'll give general intelligence is it's

1770
01:42:09,180 --> 01:42:11,560
– At any task a human does, like on some

1771
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:14,110
regular basis, it does it as well. And it seems

1772
01:42:14,110 --> 01:42:17,290
to be hitting that shrine, whether it's chess or whether

1773
01:42:17,290 --> 01:42:19,770
it's design, whether it's writing code. It's doing it as

1774
01:42:19,770 --> 01:42:22,270
well as humans. And then superintelligence, if you want to

1775
01:42:22,270 --> 01:42:24,340
use that term, I know some people find it offensive,

1776
01:42:24,340 --> 01:42:27,670
is like it can solve problems that humans don't even

1777
01:42:27,670 --> 01:42:32,860
define. It can find… It can solve problems humans cannot

1778
01:42:32,860 --> 01:42:36,010
solve, and it can find problems humans cannot define. No,

1779
01:42:36,010 --> 01:42:39,260
that will happen when we get to – Sure. So

1780
01:42:39,260 --> 01:42:41,650
we're at general right now. No, no, no. Think about

1781
01:42:41,650 --> 01:42:43,710
this. There's no way you can argue we're not a

1782
01:42:43,710 --> 01:42:47,610
general intelligence now. It definitely can do everything a human

1783
01:42:47,610 --> 01:42:50,610
can do. I take offense to the word intelligence. There's

1784
01:42:50,610 --> 01:42:53,820
no intelligence. It's just – - We call it skills.

1785
01:42:53,820 --> 01:42:55,580
- Skills, skills, skills. - Okay, so it has general

1786
01:42:55,580 --> 01:42:57,040
skills. - Skills, yes, I'm good with skills. - So

1787
01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:59,560
it can do any skill that a human can do.

1788
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:01,860
If you were to apply it to that skill for,

1789
01:43:01,860 --> 01:43:03,770
I don't know, 30 days, it can do any skill

1790
01:43:03,770 --> 01:43:06,170
a human can do. I think we're kinda at that

1791
01:43:06,170 --> 01:43:08,610
point. So it's just a matter of applying it to

1792
01:43:08,610 --> 01:43:10,790
a skill. So if we're at that point and these

1793
01:43:10,790 --> 01:43:13,700
things are about to IPO, And then they have the

1794
01:43:13,700 --> 01:43:16,770
IPOs go off the rails because they've terrorized everybody that

1795
01:43:16,770 --> 01:43:19,370
they can't control them. And then that gives them the

1796
01:43:19,370 --> 01:43:22,950
inability to have the capital. in order to finish the

1797
01:43:22,950 --> 01:43:27,180
build out and the whole thing unravels and we have

1798
01:43:27,180 --> 01:43:31,540
a recession like the great financial crisis in 2008. That's

1799
01:43:31,540 --> 01:43:34,670
a possibility right now, by the way. I don't think

1800
01:43:34,670 --> 01:43:38,480
it's the 90% case, but I think it's like 10%

1801
01:43:38,480 --> 01:43:42,940
that these guys are going to unwind. Now, hey, it's

1802
01:43:42,940 --> 01:43:47,760
Tristan Kalkanis, everybody. Tristan, 10%. No, I'm not in a

1803
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:49,980
panic about AI taking over. I think they're going to

1804
01:43:49,980 --> 01:43:53,840
actually unwind. wind the trade with their... panicking. They may

1805
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:55,550
unwind the trade where people go, you know what, I'm

1806
01:43:55,550 --> 01:43:58,250
not willing to pay a billion dollars for this company.

1807
01:43:58,250 --> 01:44:00,490
I don't think we should take it public. And then

1808
01:44:00,490 --> 01:44:02,800
they're going to be like, okay, where do I get

1809
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,250
the $100 billion to pay my – and then more

1810
01:44:05,250 --> 01:44:08,330
force majeures happen, more data centers get shut down, and

1811
01:44:08,330 --> 01:44:11,430
then the technology goes sideways for five years. It's kind

1812
01:44:11,430 --> 01:44:14,100
of crazy what's going on right now. Let's just call

1813
01:44:14,100 --> 01:44:16,650
these things what they are. They're slaves. This is my

1814
01:44:16,650 --> 01:44:19,620
slave. I'm going to call it a slave from now

1815
01:44:19,620 --> 01:44:21,960
on. This is my slave. It does what I tell

1816
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:24,970
it to do. Sometimes it's a good slave. I'm going

1817
01:44:24,970 --> 01:44:26,680
to call it Toby. I'm going to call it Toby.

1818
01:44:26,860 --> 01:44:29,400
Toby. I'm going to call it Toby. Oh, that's dark.

1819
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:34,080
That's dark. All right. Let's just talk about the state

1820
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:38,910
visit, which was overshadowed by super intelligence and all kinds

1821
01:44:38,910 --> 01:44:44,120
of nonsense. This was President Xi. and the press just

1822
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:47,580
thought this was worthless. What is your gut as this

1823
01:44:47,580 --> 01:44:51,460
relationship plays out and how does it compare to those

1824
01:44:51,460 --> 01:44:54,280
between past American presidents and Chinese leaders? Well, my gut

1825
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:58,060
says it's good when leaders from Beijing and Washington talk.

1826
01:44:58,180 --> 01:45:00,000
I'm glad they're talking. It's

1827
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,340
Better than a confrontation. It's better than a new Cold

1828
01:45:02,340 --> 01:45:06,460
War. But I'm mostly struck by the disconnect between all

1829
01:45:06,460 --> 01:45:09,990
the pageantry that you just talked about and the substantive

1830
01:45:09,990 --> 01:45:13,070
achievements that, That are advancing the interests of the American

1831
01:45:13,070 --> 01:45:17,260
people. Heavy on the pageantry, light on the deliverables, as

1832
01:45:17,260 --> 01:45:18,850
we used to call them when I worked in the

1833
01:45:18,850 --> 01:45:22,300
government, right? Right. I mean, let's think about it. How

1834
01:45:22,300 --> 01:45:25,740
many presidents have met at the tarmac with a red

1835
01:45:25,740 --> 01:45:30,080
carpet leaders from China or the Soviet Union or Russia?

1836
01:45:30,500 --> 01:45:33,980
Zero. Never has that happened before. Zero. President Trump has

1837
01:45:33,980 --> 01:45:38,030
already done that twice in the last two years. Second,

1838
01:45:38,030 --> 01:45:42,110
if you listen to the language, Trump just can't find

1839
01:45:42,110 --> 01:45:46,480
the nicest words. He's stumbling over himself to find nicer

1840
01:45:46,480 --> 01:45:50,680
words to talk about. The general secretary of the Communist

1841
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:53,410
Party of China. And contrast that to the way he

1842
01:45:53,410 --> 01:45:55,910
talks about our allies, contrast that to the way he

1843
01:45:55,910 --> 01:45:59,330
talks about the prime minister of Canada. Just shocking to

1844
01:45:59,330 --> 01:46:03,420
me and in my view, not in America's national interest.

1845
01:46:03,420 --> 01:46:07,270
See, this is why I think Trump doesn't care, because

1846
01:46:07,270 --> 01:46:10,520
he knows we've got to work. China's not up to

1847
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:13,850
kill us. We're their customer. They're not going to kill

1848
01:46:13,850 --> 01:46:18,120
us for any reason whatsoever. But he's in the hospitality

1849
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:20,930
business. He's going to hold your chair. You're going to

1850
01:46:20,930 --> 01:46:23,620
get a little chocolate on your pillow at night. That's

1851
01:46:23,620 --> 01:46:26,490
what he does. Whoa, but he didn't. He's literally, I

1852
01:46:26,490 --> 01:46:31,210
think he'll be his biggest. What is his biggest? What

1853
01:46:31,210 --> 01:46:33,880
is his largest focus right now in the second term?

1854
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:39,460
It's to build a thousand person ballroom. Like, that's all

1855
01:46:39,460 --> 01:46:42,060
he can talk about is a ballroom. He literally is

1856
01:46:42,060 --> 01:46:48,200
in the hospitality business. He took Xi to see the

1857
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:51,750
new… Ballroom? Yeah. With like a construction hat on? Did

1858
01:46:51,750 --> 01:46:53,940
they go put construction hats on? There was no tape.

1859
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:56,340
I didn't see any tape of them actually visiting the

1860
01:46:56,340 --> 01:46:58,580
construction zone. When you come to my house, I'm going

1861
01:46:58,580 --> 01:47:01,300
to say, hey, Jason, this is my... My garage, it

1862
01:47:01,300 --> 01:47:04,050
has space for three cars because that's what the, you

1863
01:47:04,050 --> 01:47:06,100
know, and this is where my flying car will go.

1864
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:08,860
And I'll show you the studio, you know. Yeah, of

1865
01:47:08,860 --> 01:47:11,080
course, that's what you do if you're a good host.

1866
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:13,280
But now he was supposed to yell at him and

1867
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:16,500
tell him, you're no good. You got slaves and Riggers.

1868
01:47:16,500 --> 01:47:18,800
But then third, just as you went through that list,

1869
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:21,090
let's talk about that a little bit. Let's go through

1870
01:47:21,090 --> 01:47:24,840
the list. Iran, the most important thing President Trump wants

1871
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:26,680
to do is end the war in Iran. He and

1872
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:31,540
his government announced D-Day with sanctions. The number one trading

1873
01:47:31,540 --> 01:47:36,250
partner with Iran is China. Nothing. No sanctions, no agreement

1874
01:47:36,250 --> 01:47:40,270
to the best. Do these nutjobs think that that's not

1875
01:47:40,270 --> 01:47:45,600
discussed over cigars and cognac in the back room? I

1876
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,400
mean, it's pretty – yeah, why would they be discussing

1877
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:52,300
that with the media anyway? I'm sure there are important

1878
01:47:52,300 --> 01:47:57,340
discussions going on outside of the – of the state

1879
01:47:57,340 --> 01:48:00,010
dinner, but I don't think that necessarily has to be

1880
01:48:00,010 --> 01:48:03,040
public. I think it's great that Trump gets along with

1881
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:08,470
dictators who normally are at odds with us. The fact

1882
01:48:08,470 --> 01:48:11,600
that Kim Jong-un is obsessed with Trump and Putin loves

1883
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:14,510
him and she loves him, that's great. Keep talking. That's

1884
01:48:14,510 --> 01:48:17,750
what diplomacy is about. Yes. If you're talking, you're talking,

1885
01:48:17,750 --> 01:48:19,840
you're talking. You're not fighting. The chances of you going

1886
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:21,770
to war go down. Part of the reason we went

1887
01:48:21,770 --> 01:48:23,800
to war with Iran is we weren't talking to them.

1888
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:26,430
We didn't have great negotiations or open, and we still

1889
01:48:26,430 --> 01:48:28,940
don't, and we still can't resolve this thing. It's great

1890
01:48:28,940 --> 01:48:31,720
that he and she are talking to each other. I

1891
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:33,480
don't think she's getting over on us at this point,

1892
01:48:33,480 --> 01:48:36,880
and you're right. They need us as a customer. And,

1893
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:41,530
you know, if we start the remanufacturing of America and

1894
01:48:41,530 --> 01:48:44,900
same thing in Mexico, we can start making stuff in

1895
01:48:44,900 --> 01:48:47,540
India like the iPhone is being made in India right

1896
01:48:47,540 --> 01:48:52,140
now. The country that has got a major challenge is

1897
01:48:52,140 --> 01:48:54,610
not the United States. We're doing great. We keep building

1898
01:48:54,610 --> 01:48:58,860
great companies. Anthropic and OpenAI didn't exist 20 years ago.

1899
01:48:58,940 --> 01:49:01,790
These are new companies. We keep creating the world's best

1900
01:49:01,790 --> 01:49:05,960
companies, period, full stop. And they have to chase us.

1901
01:49:06,340 --> 01:49:09,500
We still have the innovation. We are still the destination.

1902
01:49:09,500 --> 01:49:12,150
nation, everybody wants to go, despite what we're doing with

1903
01:49:12,150 --> 01:49:14,880
the borders, etc. Everybody still wants to come here. And

1904
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:17,180
yeah, they have to fast follow us and sell us

1905
01:49:17,180 --> 01:49:19,680
stuff. If they lose us as a customer, they will

1906
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:23,320
have massive instability in their country. If you get to

1907
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:27,850
20% unemployment, 15 to 20% unemployment, that's when people start

1908
01:49:27,850 --> 01:49:31,790
riding in the streets. That's their biggest fear. Maybe something

1909
01:49:31,790 --> 01:49:36,700
will happen today. Nothing. Trade, nothing changed. Just kicking the

1910
01:49:36,700 --> 01:49:40,290
can down the road. Russia, a big sanctions bill was

1911
01:49:40,290 --> 01:49:43,260
passed. The president signed it. Gives them all this power

1912
01:49:43,260 --> 01:49:47,460
to pressure China, to pressure Russia. Nothing on that. And

1913
01:49:47,460 --> 01:49:49,450
then on some other issues, I just want to remind

1914
01:49:49,450 --> 01:49:53,190
you. What? Oh, that was the clip. I'm sorry. What

1915
01:49:53,190 --> 01:49:56,000
about economic D-Day that they warned? Where's that? Where's that?

1916
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:59,420
It's not there. The number one trading partner, if you

1917
01:49:59,420 --> 01:50:03,010
want to pressure the mullahs in Tehran, is China. And

1918
01:50:03,010 --> 01:50:07,100
they've done zero about that. Also, reminder, you know, they

1919
01:50:07,100 --> 01:50:09,960
also talked about President Trump gave a big, I don't

1920
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:11,620
know if you guys covered it or not, he gave

1921
01:50:11,620 --> 01:50:16,400
this big speech talking about Chinese interference in American elections.

1922
01:50:16,940 --> 01:50:19,760
What did he do to push back on that? Nothing.

1923
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:22,770
And then some smaller issues. You know, there's an American

1924
01:50:22,770 --> 01:50:25,740
scholar. I know him, by the way, personally. Min Zin

1925
01:50:25,740 --> 01:50:29,380
is his name. He's from the University of California, Berkeley.

1926
01:50:29,380 --> 01:50:32,580
He's been wrongfully detained. Keep him there. Keep him in

1927
01:50:32,580 --> 01:50:36,470
China. I applaud that the State Department designate him as

1928
01:50:36,470 --> 01:50:40,170
a wrongly detained American citizen. But I haven't heard his

1929
01:50:40,170 --> 01:50:42,040
words at all. I haven't heard his name at all

1930
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:45,420
in this summit. So I'm glad they're talking. I wish

1931
01:50:45,420 --> 01:50:48,160
they would be talking about things more of substance that

1932
01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:52,440
are important to the American people. Midterms, midterms, midterms. This

1933
01:50:52,440 --> 01:50:57,400
is the former ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul. And so

1934
01:50:57,400 --> 01:51:00,840
he has an agenda. We've made great strides, very positive

1935
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:03,920
for both countries. Thank you very much, and we appreciate

1936
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:06,780
the fair coverage. It's been very fair. We appreciate it.

1937
01:51:06,860 --> 01:51:10,340
The president and I are like two people that's charting

1938
01:51:10,340 --> 01:51:14,040
the course for the great shape of China-U.S. relations. When

1939
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:17,340
the president visited China in May, we agreed on the

1940
01:51:17,340 --> 01:51:23,040
visions. of building a constructive China-US relationship of strategic stability.

1941
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:26,540
This time, we've agreed to add new substance to it,

1942
01:51:26,540 --> 01:51:30,860
that the relationship will be a constructive one of strategic

1943
01:51:30,860 --> 01:51:36,530
stability on the basis of respect, fairness, and reciprocity. So

1944
01:51:36,530 --> 01:51:39,740
from this one, we can see that the process prospects

1945
01:51:39,740 --> 01:51:43,750
for this relationship will get more brighter. I still believe

1946
01:51:43,750 --> 01:51:46,310
ARC is the way. Have you ever heard the acronym

1947
01:51:46,310 --> 01:51:52,140
ARC? No. What is this? America, Russia, China. Oh, yeah.

1948
01:51:52,140 --> 01:51:56,960
I mean, I think Russia's fading in importance, their economy

1949
01:51:56,960 --> 01:52:00,480
is just not as significant as it once was. But

1950
01:52:00,480 --> 01:52:03,500
it's definitely China, Saudi, the Middle East, UAE and the

1951
01:52:03,500 --> 01:52:07,290
United States. That's what I think. Well, the only reason

1952
01:52:07,290 --> 01:52:12,280
Russia's economy is hurting is because... Europe won't buy their

1953
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:16,680
oil, their gas. uh we blew up the pipeline i'm

1954
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:21,420
sure i'm sure i'm sure we did that i'm sure

1955
01:52:21,420 --> 01:52:23,960
we did that which is not nice deep by the

1956
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:27,110
way it was only like 200 feet below ground it

1957
01:52:27,110 --> 01:52:29,640
was like hmm no it was it wasn't a nice

1958
01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:32,370
thing to do but they had already been cut off

1959
01:52:32,370 --> 01:52:35,930
from from europe you know the The globalists of the

1960
01:52:35,930 --> 01:52:40,860
world have always wanted Russia for their stuff. They have

1961
01:52:40,860 --> 01:52:44,680
oil and gas up the wazoo. That's why they've always

1962
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:49,400
wanted Russia. And they'll do anything to get it. Yeah,

1963
01:52:49,400 --> 01:52:51,630
the good news in all of this is nuclear is

1964
01:52:51,630 --> 01:52:54,790
what China is massively investing in. And then the United

1965
01:52:54,790 --> 01:52:57,340
States with solar and batteries. When I go to the

1966
01:52:57,340 --> 01:53:01,750
Middle East, they're always on a very specific plan. We

1967
01:53:01,750 --> 01:53:06,680
have 30 years. from now until 2050, 2060, to take

1968
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:11,130
our petro economy and make it something else. We have

1969
01:53:11,130 --> 01:53:14,420
to move off of this economy to a new economy.

1970
01:53:14,780 --> 01:53:17,410
That's why you see this crazy investments coming out of

1971
01:53:17,410 --> 01:53:21,760
Saudi, UAE. They'll invest in... They're exploring investing in anything.

1972
01:53:22,060 --> 01:53:24,560
They'll invest in golf. They'll invest in sports. Oh, hold

1973
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:26,710
on. Hold on. They'll invest in real estate. You, me,

1974
01:53:26,710 --> 01:53:30,590
and Brunetti, our AI movie studio. Trust me. That's a

1975
01:53:30,590 --> 01:53:33,390
lot of the movies. I think this Paramount deal is

1976
01:53:33,390 --> 01:53:36,500
being funded by a lot of money from that region.

1977
01:53:36,500 --> 01:53:38,490
So if you want to think about who's going to

1978
01:53:38,490 --> 01:53:41,500
have the biggest impact on the future, if you have…

1979
01:53:41,630 --> 01:53:44,060
A series of countries that can move very quickly because

1980
01:53:44,060 --> 01:53:47,380
they're monarchies and they can just do top-down movements. And

1981
01:53:47,380 --> 01:53:50,920
they're small populists. They're, you know, Saudis, like 30 million

1982
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:53,670
people, UAEs, a couple of million people. They can actually

1983
01:53:53,670 --> 01:53:56,970
move very quickly. They can move capital places, and they've

1984
01:53:56,970 --> 01:54:01,050
westernized massively. They're moving towards the west at a pace

1985
01:54:01,050 --> 01:54:04,380
that you would not believe. It is wild. When you

1986
01:54:04,380 --> 01:54:08,400
go to the Middle East, why are you going there?

1987
01:54:09,450 --> 01:54:15,000
So I have a partnership with the Saudis. What? What?

1988
01:54:15,700 --> 01:54:19,480
Yeah. I... I have something called Founder University, which is

1989
01:54:19,480 --> 01:54:22,620
how to create companies, like a 12-week course. And I

1990
01:54:22,620 --> 01:54:26,040
do it in Saudi, Japan, and the United States. And

1991
01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:27,900
so I partner with that. Oh, hold on a second.

1992
01:54:28,100 --> 01:54:33,700
Yeah. You need me as a guest speaker. Absolutely. Yeah.

1993
01:54:33,700 --> 01:54:35,790
Yeah. Well, I mean, and then the issue is I

1994
01:54:35,790 --> 01:54:37,210
haven't been able to do it in Saudi because of

1995
01:54:37,210 --> 01:54:40,520
this war for a year, but I basically three years

1996
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:42,920
ago decided I would start going there because I had

1997
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:44,810
no experience. But you can go to Saudi Arabia. I

1998
01:54:44,810 --> 01:54:47,770
don't have that. You're just afraid. You're afraid of getting

1999
01:54:47,770 --> 01:54:50,540
bombed, but you can go. The state. No, I am

2000
01:54:50,540 --> 01:54:53,920
going to go in November currently planning. But right now,

2001
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:57,620
the State Department is saying don't go outside of Riyadh.

2002
01:54:57,920 --> 01:54:59,680
So put me put me on the put me on

2003
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:03,350
stage, coach. Put me in. Come on. You should. You

2004
01:55:03,350 --> 01:55:06,670
should. It's good to visit. I've been visiting there for

2005
01:55:06,670 --> 01:55:09,290
four years and the change every year is incredible. And,

2006
01:55:09,290 --> 01:55:14,640
you know, if you. Our State Department and the entire

2007
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:21,440
independent of political party has put the edict out to

2008
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:25,620
the entrepreneurial community, etc. Build relationship fabrics, build businesses with

2009
01:55:25,620 --> 01:55:30,570
the Middle East, because then that – We'll have them

2010
01:55:30,570 --> 01:55:33,890
become westernized and we'll have the partnership as opposed to

2011
01:55:33,890 --> 01:55:36,730
say partnerships with China. Right. Where do you want the

2012
01:55:36,730 --> 01:55:40,380
Middle East as this major economic player in the 21st

2013
01:55:40,380 --> 01:55:42,910
century? Where do you want them leaning? And that was

2014
01:55:42,910 --> 01:55:44,860
what convinced me to get involved or just at least

2015
01:55:44,860 --> 01:55:47,050
get educated over there. And so I don't have them

2016
01:55:47,050 --> 01:55:51,400
as investors right now. But I am. doing this course

2017
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:53,990
where I'm like helping people build companies. And it's been

2018
01:55:53,990 --> 01:55:56,850
very interesting because there's a lot of entrepreneurs there. And

2019
01:55:56,850 --> 01:55:59,480
a lot of entrepreneurs from Europe and India, Philippines, et

2020
01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:03,770
cetera, are basing their companies in Dubai, Saudi, Abu Dhabi,

2021
01:56:03,770 --> 01:56:07,390
Doha. They're deciding to base their companies in there for

2022
01:56:07,390 --> 01:56:10,460
tax treatment, for investment, et cetera. So they're going to

2023
01:56:10,460 --> 01:56:13,270
be like key player in the – future or er

2024
01:56:13,270 --> 01:56:16,650
to a certain extent well the only thing i can

2025
01:56:16,650 --> 01:56:20,180
think of with this partnership ui and brunetti are going

2026
01:56:20,180 --> 01:56:22,120
to put together because i'm just going to force this

2027
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:26,410
here here because brunetti brunetti i'm telling you brunetti kind

2028
01:56:26,410 --> 01:56:29,170
of he had it half right I think the future

2029
01:56:29,170 --> 01:56:31,670
of entertainment, then you showed it to me. You sent

2030
01:56:31,670 --> 01:56:35,320
me some links this morning. So people who are using,

2031
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:40,610
what is that thing called that you can buy? Opus

2032
01:56:40,610 --> 01:56:45,140
5.5. No, no, not Opus. Runway. Pixel. Runway. Runway. So

2033
01:56:45,140 --> 01:56:47,520
I think the way it's going to work is people

2034
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:53,200
are going to. invest some money in runway credits, write

2035
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:57,260
a script. It all comes down to writing and the

2036
01:56:57,260 --> 01:57:00,890
ideas, obviously. Then you create your movie, you put it

2037
01:57:00,890 --> 01:57:04,230
on X, value for value, people will send you X

2038
01:57:04,230 --> 01:57:08,650
money. That's the future. And then, you know, say, hey,

2039
01:57:08,650 --> 01:57:10,280
I want to do another one, but I need more

2040
01:57:10,280 --> 01:57:13,400
credits, man, need more credits. And people will pre-fund it.

2041
01:57:13,480 --> 01:57:16,170
They'll pre-fund it. And because some of that stuff was

2042
01:57:16,170 --> 01:57:23,010
good. That zombie movie. Holy cow. Yes, this is... People

2043
01:57:23,010 --> 01:57:25,780
are connecting their Claude to Runway, and I guess Claude

2044
01:57:25,780 --> 01:57:29,160
is good at creating the instructions and then You know,

2045
01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:31,010
runway is great at creating the visuals, but I sent

2046
01:57:31,010 --> 01:57:32,790
you a couple of them. There was one that was

2047
01:57:32,790 --> 01:57:36,180
like make a Netflix documentary. Yeah, it was great. Smug,

2048
01:57:36,180 --> 01:57:40,280
smart female host who was speaking like quips the whole

2049
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:42,820
way. And it was like, it was good. My Lord.

2050
01:57:43,100 --> 01:57:46,060
Yeah, it was very good. Yeah, it's starting to cross

2051
01:57:46,060 --> 01:57:49,600
the uncanny valley for me where it takes me. you

2052
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:52,230
know, three, four, five seconds to be like, okay, hold

2053
01:57:52,230 --> 01:57:55,040
on. Let's get focused. Is this real or not real?

2054
01:57:55,220 --> 01:57:57,500
No, you can't even tell anymore. You can't even tell.

2055
01:57:57,580 --> 01:57:59,040
Well, you could tell. You used to be able to

2056
01:57:59,040 --> 01:58:01,200
tell in under a second. Like, literally be like, okay,

2057
01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:03,340
that is six fingers. Now it's like, okay, we don't

2058
01:58:03,340 --> 01:58:06,470
have six fingers anymore. And, oh, yeah, the voice is

2059
01:58:06,470 --> 01:58:10,050
in a tell. The voice is comparable. Okay, how am

2060
01:58:10,050 --> 01:58:12,830
I going to figure out? Although the fact that her

2061
01:58:12,830 --> 01:58:16,400
name was Imogen, that's like, okay, I'm done. I'm done.

2062
01:58:16,740 --> 01:58:19,580
No one names their child Imogen unless you're a –

2063
01:58:19,580 --> 01:58:21,910
I have a friend who's named their child Imogen. Must

2064
01:58:21,910 --> 01:58:28,200
be royalty. Only royalty. Their daughters, Imogen and Portia. that's

2065
01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:31,190
another one porsche i remember the first porsche i met

2066
01:58:31,190 --> 01:58:35,820
like after the car no p-o-r-t-i-a oh okay porsche porsche

2067
01:58:35,820 --> 01:58:40,700
somebody made like this incredible um with mid-journey at a

2068
01:58:40,700 --> 01:58:44,190
mood board and they came up with this like banger

2069
01:58:44,190 --> 01:58:47,350
audio track i sent you that was like escaping the

2070
01:58:47,350 --> 01:58:51,910
permanent underclass and It was like had every reference to

2071
01:58:51,910 --> 01:58:55,640
Waymo's and all the latest stuff. And it's just incredible.

2072
01:58:56,220 --> 01:58:59,840
Every two or three weeks, it makes a jump. Yeah.

2073
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:03,480
And the jump is. How many credits do you need

2074
01:59:03,480 --> 01:59:07,750
to make those five minutes from runway? Yeah. I don't

2075
01:59:07,750 --> 01:59:12,620
know, but it's probably the low hundreds of dollars. Really?

2076
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:16,560
I'm guessing right now, but I think it's probably well

2077
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:20,540
under $1,000. And it's going to get 90% cheaper a

2078
01:59:20,540 --> 01:59:24,590
year because the AI is now teaching the AI how

2079
01:59:24,590 --> 01:59:28,380
to make it more affordable. So every… they do another

2080
01:59:28,380 --> 01:59:31,820
version it's been distilled down to make it more affordable

2081
01:59:31,820 --> 01:59:35,770
make it more refined this is going to accelerate and

2082
01:59:35,770 --> 01:59:37,230
I don't think we're going to be able to tell

2083
01:59:37,230 --> 01:59:40,340
the difference that's why I sent you that Katzenberg post

2084
01:59:40,340 --> 01:59:43,180
yeah well it wasn't a post it was like a

2085
01:59:43,180 --> 01:59:47,930
manifesto it was too long yes So next time you

2086
01:59:47,930 --> 01:59:51,040
speak to Elon You may talk to him from time

2087
01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:54,660
to time Tell him, first of all I said years

2088
01:59:54,660 --> 01:59:56,890
ago That he was going to do money And he

2089
01:59:56,890 --> 01:59:59,400
did, so it wasn't that hard of a prediction For

2090
01:59:59,400 --> 02:00:00,000
me actually

2091
02:00:00,720 --> 02:00:04,170
But I just tell them I love the X money

2092
02:00:04,170 --> 02:00:09,330
DDoS. That is such a genius marketing move. So people

2093
02:00:09,330 --> 02:00:10,980
are just – Well, yeah, I don't know what's going

2094
02:00:10,980 --> 02:00:12,810
on here. Well, if I do – I'm getting money

2095
02:00:12,810 --> 02:00:16,980
sent to me. He's got his bot sending everybody money.

2096
02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:19,440
Of course, that's what you do. No, this is what's

2097
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:21,320
– Oh, please. What's happening is there is a –

2098
02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:23,700
He's sending it to J-Cow. So J-Cow says, look at

2099
02:00:23,700 --> 02:00:25,390
this money. I'm going to give it away to someone

2100
02:00:25,390 --> 02:00:27,520
else on X. Yes, that's exactly what's happening. It's a

2101
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:31,100
great idea. No – There, what happens is, okay, here's

2102
02:00:31,100 --> 02:00:33,390
what's happening, just so people understand. There was a DDoS

2103
02:00:33,390 --> 02:00:36,380
attack this weekend. There are some, what are they called,

2104
02:00:36,380 --> 02:00:39,100
meme coins. So these people who have meme coins, we'll

2105
02:00:39,100 --> 02:00:41,560
name them after people who have a lot of followers.

2106
02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:44,900
So somebody at some point made a meme coin about

2107
02:00:44,900 --> 02:00:47,840
me, and then they take fees, and then And they

2108
02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:49,900
did it for like a bunch of other people who

2109
02:00:49,900 --> 02:00:53,610
have a million followers on X. Then they get fees

2110
02:00:53,610 --> 02:00:59,100
for like the transactions around that coin for that person.

2111
02:00:59,260 --> 02:01:02,780
So if you... retweeted or whatever you have an incentive

2112
02:01:02,780 --> 02:01:05,840
because you get some portion of the trading fees just

2113
02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:09,070
like melania coin or like any other scam like any

2114
02:01:09,070 --> 02:01:12,320
other scam and i'm like i'm not participating in any

2115
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:18,120
scam but then this because i turned on x money

2116
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:22,730
yeah then it started yeah And I guess I the

2117
02:01:22,730 --> 02:01:25,740
default is anybody can send you money. This I'm not

2118
02:01:25,740 --> 02:01:28,120
going to say the name of the account, but this

2119
02:01:28,120 --> 02:01:33,010
account that does these meme coins sent me. I'm looking

2120
02:01:33,010 --> 02:01:37,640
six thousand dollars, three thousand dollars. Wow. Twenty three thousand

2121
02:01:37,640 --> 02:01:40,670
dollars, whatever that is, like thirty thousand dollars over the

2122
02:01:40,670 --> 02:01:43,410
weekend. and i'm like i thought it was the creator

2123
02:01:43,410 --> 02:01:48,270
program remember like they for content creators they split money

2124
02:01:48,270 --> 02:01:50,810
like youtube does on x yeah and i was like

2125
02:01:50,810 --> 02:01:53,800
wait no it's not that it's this scam meme coin

2126
02:01:53,800 --> 02:01:57,520
thing is sending me money that are my gas fees

2127
02:01:57,520 --> 02:01:59,800
or whatever fees, transaction fees for it. So I was

2128
02:01:59,800 --> 02:02:01,670
like, if you send me money, I'm just going to

2129
02:02:01,670 --> 02:02:03,500
give it away as quick as possible. So I just

2130
02:02:03,500 --> 02:02:05,980
started giving it away to everybody on the internet as

2131
02:02:05,980 --> 02:02:08,830
fast as possible. You're such a mensch. What I was

2132
02:02:08,830 --> 02:02:12,040
going to say is send it to Adam Curry. That's

2133
02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:13,840
what I did. I did. I said a little bit.

2134
02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:15,930
No, I did. I saw that. I saw that. Thank

2135
02:02:15,930 --> 02:02:17,940
you. I always put you guys on the top of

2136
02:02:17,940 --> 02:02:22,880
this. I want to support JCD's family. It's a genius.

2137
02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:25,220
I still think it's a marketing thing. It's a genius

2138
02:02:25,220 --> 02:02:32,030
idea. Yeah. Yeah. You can just send money to almost

2139
02:02:32,030 --> 02:02:36,500
any... with an X account. It's kind of chaotic. Now

2140
02:02:36,500 --> 02:02:38,930
I'm like, am I paying tax on this? I'm getting

2141
02:02:38,930 --> 02:02:43,920
a 1099? That's the question. This is not like it's

2142
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:46,580
$2,000 or $3,000 or under the gifting thing. It has

2143
02:02:46,580 --> 02:02:48,520
to be. It's the same way PayPal does it. Over

2144
02:02:48,520 --> 02:02:51,000
$600, you're going to get some paperwork from it. It

2145
02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:56,220
has to be. Paperwork from some fool-gazy fool-gaz? crypto account?

2146
02:02:56,640 --> 02:03:01,020
No, no, no. X money will have to report over

2147
02:03:01,020 --> 02:03:04,110
$600 and they'll issue that report. By the way, here's

2148
02:03:04,110 --> 02:03:10,200
the other thing. My account is stuck at 99.7 thousand

2149
02:03:10,200 --> 02:03:13,840
people. I cannot, and I believe that as a limiter.

2150
02:03:14,120 --> 02:03:17,120
Dvorak believed it too. In the name of John C.

2151
02:03:17,120 --> 02:03:21,410
Dvorak. What is going on? 99, you have 99.7. I've

2152
02:03:21,410 --> 02:03:24,870
been at 99 point something for years. I cannot get

2153
02:03:24,870 --> 02:03:30,620
over 100,000. It's artificially blocked or limited. Yeah. So just

2154
02:03:30,620 --> 02:03:33,300
tell Elon to take that off. Hold on, I'll just

2155
02:03:33,300 --> 02:03:35,920
tweet. Follow Adam Curry and let's see if we can

2156
02:03:35,920 --> 02:03:39,800
get him. It will not go over $100,000. It won't.

2157
02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:42,600
It won't. It won't. I'm telling you. There's some block.

2158
02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:45,560
There's some block on it. Are you being shadow banned?

2159
02:03:45,720 --> 02:03:50,900
No. Maybe you did something to the libs previously. No.

2160
02:03:50,900 --> 02:03:53,560
Maybe. I don't know. I mean, I got an automatic

2161
02:03:53,560 --> 02:03:55,850
checkmark that I never asked. Is it because I don't

2162
02:03:55,850 --> 02:03:57,720
pay for my blue checkmark? Is that it? You have

2163
02:03:57,720 --> 02:03:58,830
to pay to get over $100? No, you pay for

2164
02:03:58,830 --> 02:04:01,110
your blue checkmark. You have a blue checkmark now. Maybe

2165
02:04:01,110 --> 02:04:04,980
somebody gifted it to you. Yeah, because I'm the podfather.

2166
02:04:04,980 --> 02:04:08,850
Hello. Maybe. That's why I got the checkmark. Connected via

2167
02:04:08,850 --> 02:04:14,060
Netherlands Android app. Netherlands Android Optima. Well, no. I'm looking

2168
02:04:14,060 --> 02:04:16,600
at your profile page. It tells you how the person's

2169
02:04:16,600 --> 02:04:18,770
connecting to the thing. Well, I'm not. I'll let you

2170
02:04:18,770 --> 02:04:22,100
know if it's... I'm in Texas. I downloaded the app

2171
02:04:22,100 --> 02:04:26,170
in America. Based upon... I think it's based upon your

2172
02:04:26,170 --> 02:04:29,560
average of the last 30 days. Well, it's wrong. It's

2173
02:04:29,560 --> 02:04:32,720
wrong. I don't like the app, honestly. I don't like

2174
02:04:32,720 --> 02:04:34,550
it. I just use the web browser. I don't like

2175
02:04:34,550 --> 02:04:38,630
the app. It's an addiction. I highly recommend. Well, I

2176
02:04:38,630 --> 02:04:42,820
know you're addicted. I know Brunetti's addicted. I tried to

2177
02:04:42,820 --> 02:04:47,310
get you on a text group. I get... crickets i'm

2178
02:04:47,310 --> 02:04:49,430
like i'll just create it i'm on the text group

2179
02:04:49,430 --> 02:04:52,220
no but you didn't say anything but i put it

2180
02:04:52,220 --> 02:04:54,830
in a dm dm group on x and like oh

2181
02:04:54,830 --> 02:04:58,800
here i am it's like that's sad You know, social

2182
02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:01,520
media is like a really bad addiction. I don't have

2183
02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:03,690
any other addictions in my life. I mean, except for

2184
02:05:03,690 --> 02:05:07,750
skiing in Japan. And arguably, that's a good one. But

2185
02:05:07,750 --> 02:05:11,940
yeah, well, you need to meet you need to meet

2186
02:05:11,940 --> 02:05:17,440
Dame Astrid and Sir Mark next time you go. Oh,

2187
02:05:17,440 --> 02:05:20,120
Japan? Yeah. Do you know who they are? I might

2188
02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:23,160
have heard their names, but they're in Tokyo? Yeah. So

2189
02:05:23,160 --> 02:05:27,500
look up Ditham Klein Architects. Oh, okay. You look them

2190
02:05:27,500 --> 02:05:31,810
up, you'll be like, holy crap. They've designed the emperor's

2191
02:05:31,810 --> 02:05:39,530
library. They designed the... The Fender Store. I mean, they

2192
02:05:39,530 --> 02:05:43,730
do huge, huge buildings. They do office buildings. They're doing

2193
02:05:43,730 --> 02:05:47,470
– Klein Ditham? Yeah, Klein Ditham, yeah. Oh, wow. Look

2194
02:05:47,470 --> 02:05:51,210
at this. This is Ginza. Yeah. So Sir Mark is

2195
02:05:51,210 --> 02:05:53,580
a super nerd and he really would love to meet

2196
02:05:53,580 --> 02:05:57,390
you. This is incredible. And he'll take you to places

2197
02:05:57,390 --> 02:06:01,170
where you and you think, you know, Japan. Believe me,

2198
02:06:01,170 --> 02:06:04,700
he'll take you places you've never been. I love it.

2199
02:06:04,700 --> 02:06:07,080
Yes, definitely intro me on the back channel. Yeah, yeah.

2200
02:06:07,080 --> 02:06:10,020
Let me know. I'll intro you on the back channel.

2201
02:06:10,260 --> 02:06:11,950
I'll put you in the text group. Oh, wait, I'm

2202
02:06:11,950 --> 02:06:15,480
sorry. No, no, whatever. WhatsApp. It's all in Japan. It's

2203
02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:19,140
all WhatsApp. But these are some gorgeous buildings in Japan.

2204
02:06:19,140 --> 02:06:22,110
It's very interesting, the architecture there. Ginza place. Look at

2205
02:06:22,110 --> 02:06:25,580
that. I am so taken by Japan. I know the

2206
02:06:25,580 --> 02:06:27,780
building they built here, Ginza Place. Yeah, I've seen it

2207
02:06:27,780 --> 02:06:32,680
before. Yeah, I'm telling you. Incredible. He's British. He's Swiss

2208
02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:38,240
Italian. I think. I mean, anybody who's like an entrepreneur

2209
02:06:38,240 --> 02:06:44,280
or like in any way... design forward or entrepreneurial or

2210
02:06:44,280 --> 02:06:48,640
artistic. You just go to Japan and your brain explodes.

2211
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:50,820
You're like, oh my God, there's a perfect society in

2212
02:06:50,820 --> 02:06:55,500
the world and here's how it operates. You talk about

2213
02:06:55,500 --> 02:06:58,120
getting one-shotted by AI, you get one-shotted by Japan. The

2214
02:06:58,120 --> 02:07:02,380
parking is a little tight in Japan. No, that's because

2215
02:07:02,380 --> 02:07:05,480
you You know what? The train, everybody just takes the

2216
02:07:05,480 --> 02:07:08,290
trains and the trains were all set up very thoughtfully

2217
02:07:08,290 --> 02:07:11,280
in a circle. And then over each station, they told

2218
02:07:11,280 --> 02:07:14,930
them build giant buildings above the station where people's offices

2219
02:07:14,930 --> 02:07:18,330
and apartments will be. So if you planned it that

2220
02:07:18,330 --> 02:07:20,990
way, you could just go down to the bottom of

2221
02:07:20,990 --> 02:07:23,460
your building, get on there, and go around in a

2222
02:07:23,460 --> 02:07:25,540
circle and get to any place in the city within

2223
02:07:25,540 --> 02:07:28,930
20 minutes. It's bonkers how efficient it is. And then

2224
02:07:28,930 --> 02:07:31,920
because of that, nobody really drives. So when you do

2225
02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:34,460
take an Uber, it's like zip, zip, zip. I love

2226
02:07:34,460 --> 02:07:36,960
those. They don't have this problem now, but I love

2227
02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:39,840
those cabs. where they have the handle in the front

2228
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:45,300
to open the back door. You ever seen that? Yeah,

2229
02:07:45,300 --> 02:07:48,500
yeah, yeah. And if you get out, if you try

2230
02:07:48,500 --> 02:07:50,440
and close the door, they yell at you, no, no,

2231
02:07:50,440 --> 02:07:52,720
this is my head. No, no, no. What you have

2232
02:07:52,720 --> 02:07:58,330
to see is the Toyota Alphard, A-L-P-H-A-R-D, Alphard. This is

2233
02:07:58,330 --> 02:08:04,050
like the luxury coach of Japan. And... It literally, like,

2234
02:08:04,050 --> 02:08:06,440
every Uber there is an Alford. You know, anybody who's,

2235
02:08:06,440 --> 02:08:10,310
like, a CEO gets driven in these. Yeah. And like

2236
02:08:10,310 --> 02:08:13,640
you're saying, the doors open automatically, and you have these

2237
02:08:13,640 --> 02:08:16,580
beautiful, like, captain's chairs, and they just zip you around

2238
02:08:16,580 --> 02:08:19,660
town. It's like a dream. Oh. Oh, it's gorgeous. Alfred.

2239
02:08:19,860 --> 02:08:21,260
So we're trying to get one in the United States.

2240
02:08:21,340 --> 02:08:22,850
They won't sell them here. So why don't you go

2241
02:08:22,850 --> 02:08:25,470
live in Japan? Leave America, you traitor. Why don't you

2242
02:08:25,470 --> 02:08:28,140
just go there? Well, you need to have a plan.

2243
02:08:28,400 --> 02:08:30,790
You need a plan to have a plan. Well, I

2244
02:08:30,790 --> 02:08:34,780
escaped California to Texas and then you're a good move.

2245
02:08:34,780 --> 02:08:37,630
Good move. Good move. Well, and then you have to

2246
02:08:37,630 --> 02:08:40,120
have an escape plan from Texas, and that is, for

2247
02:08:40,120 --> 02:08:43,390
me, Tokyo or Singapore or, I guess, Dubai. We don't

2248
02:08:43,390 --> 02:08:46,050
need this. We're going to be here for a million

2249
02:08:46,050 --> 02:08:48,600
years. What if the socialists take over? I mean, it's

2250
02:08:48,600 --> 02:08:51,580
completely impossible. Have you seen the amount of guns we

2251
02:08:51,580 --> 02:08:54,920
have? See? I mean, I know the amount of guns

2252
02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:57,520
I have. We have a decent amount. That's what I

2253
02:08:57,520 --> 02:08:59,660
always tell people. I'm like, you can bring socialism to

2254
02:08:59,660 --> 02:09:01,350
Texas. I don't think it's going to work out too

2255
02:09:01,350 --> 02:09:03,540
good for you. It will not. It will not. It

2256
02:09:03,540 --> 02:09:06,780
will not. Yeah. Hey, brother. Thank you so much for

2257
02:09:06,780 --> 02:09:10,360
joining us again today. It's always fun. I know we're

2258
02:09:10,360 --> 02:09:12,860
AI heavy, but I mean, this is what's going on.

2259
02:09:12,860 --> 02:09:14,430
Well, we've got to talk about it. And you're on

2260
02:09:14,430 --> 02:09:17,660
the... world right now. You're right on the cusp, man.

2261
02:09:17,660 --> 02:09:20,640
You're on the cusp. See? It's on the cusp. There

2262
02:09:20,640 --> 02:09:25,230
you go. There it is. I just, you guys are

2263
02:09:25,230 --> 02:09:29,900
doing this thing for me, and I don't have this.

2264
02:09:29,900 --> 02:09:33,400
Shout out to Dana Burnetti. Yes. Your neck and neck.

2265
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:36,660
Amazing. Your neck and neck. Yeah, no, I mean, somebody's

2266
02:09:36,660 --> 02:09:38,500
got to be first and somebody's got to be second.

2267
02:09:38,500 --> 02:09:41,220
So congratulations for Dana. This worked to be improved, but

2268
02:09:41,220 --> 02:09:44,580
you'll get there, Dana. All right, everybody. He's good. There

2269
02:09:44,580 --> 02:09:47,380
he is. He's great on the show. Jason Calacanis, JCal,

2270
02:09:47,380 --> 02:09:50,180
sitting in once again on the best podcast in the

2271
02:09:50,180 --> 02:09:52,190
universe. Good show, everybody. Thank you so much. Take care,

2272
02:09:52,190 --> 02:09:54,200
brother. All right. Take care, brother. Talk to you soon.

2273
02:09:54,380 --> 02:09:57,320
We'll be right back with your value for value donations.

2274
02:09:59,460 --> 02:10:21,000
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2275
02:10:52,200 --> 02:10:56,440
everybody. the mighty and powerful jason calicanis we thank him

2276
02:10:56,440 --> 02:10:59,520
for joining us and we want to thank you who

2277
02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:02,350
have supported us with your value returning it for the

2278
02:11:02,350 --> 02:11:04,980
value you receive on the show you can do that

2279
02:11:04,980 --> 02:11:07,650
with your time your talent or your treasure and uh

2280
02:11:07,650 --> 02:11:10,460
it's just always nice to see what people are doing

2281
02:11:10,460 --> 02:11:13,260
telling people out the show actually i i love all

2282
02:11:13,260 --> 02:11:16,260
the the x uh back and forth forth about who's

2283
02:11:16,260 --> 02:11:19,250
better. I think, let me see, still to come in

2284
02:11:19,250 --> 02:11:23,940
the month of October. uh andrew horowitz these are people

2285
02:11:23,940 --> 02:11:25,780
who ask me if they could be on the show

2286
02:11:25,780 --> 02:11:28,960
horowitz has already been making clips since last thursday i'm

2287
02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:31,720
like dude the it's not gonna work you're gonna have

2288
02:11:31,720 --> 02:11:34,310
to you have to do it the day before you

2289
02:11:34,310 --> 02:11:37,520
can't do clips a week in advance um it's funny

2290
02:11:37,520 --> 02:11:40,940
enough The Keeper also wants to come on the show

2291
02:11:40,940 --> 02:11:42,890
and do it with me. That would be interesting to

2292
02:11:42,890 --> 02:11:45,450
see how that goes. And I'm sure Dana Brunetti will

2293
02:11:45,450 --> 02:11:48,100
be back and we'll get Matt Long back on again.

2294
02:11:48,220 --> 02:11:51,030
It's going to be a hootenanny for sure. And so

2295
02:11:51,030 --> 02:11:54,860
that back now, just as an aside, none of these

2296
02:11:54,860 --> 02:11:58,780
people are auditioning for guests, for co-hosts, not a single

2297
02:11:58,780 --> 02:12:01,960
person. This is just friends hanging out, doing the show

2298
02:12:01,960 --> 02:12:05,920
with me. And it's it's certainly been a fun ride

2299
02:12:05,920 --> 02:12:09,270
so far. So you can help us by telling other

2300
02:12:09,270 --> 02:12:11,860
people about the show, by arguing about it on X.

2301
02:12:11,920 --> 02:12:15,000
That always helps. You can always do things like, I

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don't know, give us some art for what happened to

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02:12:18,510 --> 02:12:20,970
the art on this. Oh, there it is. Now, I

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02:12:20,970 --> 02:12:24,890
let Dana Brunetti choose the artwork for episode 1906. We

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02:12:24,890 --> 02:12:27,400
came up with the title Name Drop. It wasn't the

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02:12:27,400 --> 02:12:30,430
best, but we really didn't have anything else, and we

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02:12:30,430 --> 02:12:32,920
didn't get any suggestions on the – oh, yeah, by

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the way, Rob Dew as well, please. I want to

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02:12:34,870 --> 02:12:38,770
make sure everyone knows Rob Dew will be back. And

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the art – Total cheesecake. JCD would have been proud.

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Came from the one and only Francisco Scaramanga with the

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peptide goo. All right. It is what it is. That's

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what we chose. I'm sticking with it. Thank you all

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02:12:54,150 --> 02:12:57,440
so much. Of course, we thank everybody who supports us

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with $50 or above shortlist today and people who donate

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$200 or more. Not only do we guarantee, do I

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02:13:04,190 --> 02:13:07,470
guarantee read your note, but I'll also give you the

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official title of Associate Executive Program. producer and $300 or

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more guaranteed to read your note and you become an

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executive producer. And today he finally makes it as an

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executive producer with $500, Dana Brunetti. And he says, Jason

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02:13:24,780 --> 02:13:28,700
is a solid number two in the rotation of guest

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02:13:28,700 --> 02:13:32,440
hosts. He's getting better. Keep at it, champ. There you

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02:13:32,440 --> 02:13:37,240
go. It's a friendly competition. It's a coopetition. Nicholas Heron

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comes in with 333.34. And so we have two, I

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think, two final order of the ants that were stragglers.

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He's from Indian Lake Estates in Florida. And he says,

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02:13:48,900 --> 02:13:51,670
greetings, Podfather. First, I'd like to send prayers to you

2329
02:13:51,670 --> 02:13:53,700
and the Dvorak family on the loss of the great

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02:13:53,700 --> 02:13:55,980
JCD. You know, I never get enough of people saying

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02:13:55,980 --> 02:13:58,330
that. Took me a few weeks after receiving the sad

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02:13:58,330 --> 02:14:00,670
news in the newsletter to start listening to the show

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02:14:00,670 --> 02:14:11,340
again and still haven't listened to the last week. Thank

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02:14:11,340 --> 02:14:24,000
you. Yes, I know it's Larry and Darren. Did a

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02:14:24,000 --> 02:14:26,740
very good pickup job in your absence as well. Please

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accept my donation of 333.33 plus one penny for anybody

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02:14:30,720 --> 02:14:33,960
who might need it. It's good. You never know. Yes,

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we are still supporting that. And that's in honor of

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John. For my birthday this year, Sunday, September 27th, happy

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02:14:38,720 --> 02:14:42,070
birthday. I will have reached a half century mark and

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couldn't think of a better gift for myself than a

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02:14:44,210 --> 02:14:47,670
second executive producership and membership in the order of the

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02:14:47,670 --> 02:14:50,070
ant on the best podcast in the universe. I've been

2344
02:14:50,070 --> 02:14:52,800
slacking on my end of show mixes and promise to

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02:14:52,800 --> 02:14:55,100
compose and send in a few new songs for you.

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your newest format and not let just baker do all

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Keep up the great work. Thank you for your courage.

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Nicholas Herron in Lake Wales, Florida. Lake Wales. I've been

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to Lake Wales. How about that? Very nice. I've been

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02:15:15,780 --> 02:15:22,180
to High Point Church. Sir Commodore Brennan, Perrysburg, Ohio, 33333.

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He says he found no agenda because I grew up

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watching JCD. I'd come home from school, turn on tech

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02:15:27,660 --> 02:15:29,930
TV and catch him on Silicon Spin. John was never

2357
02:15:29,930 --> 02:15:33,280
shy about asking for a donation and in his memory,

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02:15:33,280 --> 02:15:35,640
this felt like the perfect use of the read my

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02:15:35,640 --> 02:15:39,910
note segment. Banks in the U.S. rely on old third-party

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platforms to manage their one-size-fits-all credit card rewards program. And

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I know this because I've designed them for a national

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bank. My startup, Voss Loyalty, V-O-S, changes the approach by

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letting cardholders customize their rewards around what matters to them,

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02:15:57,340 --> 02:16:01,090
helping them build their own card and driving top-of-wallet behavior

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02:16:01,090 --> 02:16:04,320
for the bank. That's interesting. Couldn't you get my robot

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to do that? If anyone in the no-agenda community invests

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02:16:07,690 --> 02:16:11,530
in early-stage companies or knows someone who does, Jason, he's

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02:16:11,530 --> 02:16:14,870
probably still on, I'd love to connect. You can reach

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me at noagenda at vosloyalty.com. V-O-S-L-O-Y-A-L-T-Y.com. That's noagenda at vosloyalty.com.

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No jingles, no karma. Just keep doing great work and

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02:16:26,170 --> 02:16:29,350
keep chasing your dreams. Sir Commodore Brennan of the Black

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Swamp. Abraham American. in Vesalia, California. $250. Associate Executive Producership

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02:16:37,140 --> 02:16:39,210
for you, sir. In the morning, Adam and Noah Din

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02:16:39,210 --> 02:16:41,340
the Nation, please dedouche me as this is my first

2375
02:16:41,340 --> 02:16:45,090
donation and I've been a long time listener. You've been

2376
02:16:45,090 --> 02:16:51,040
dedouched. My college friend and long time listener, David Arelanis,

2377
02:16:51,260 --> 02:16:53,320
yes, he was on the last show, I think, with

2378
02:16:53,320 --> 02:16:55,650
the donations, hit me in the mouth. I started to

2379
02:16:55,650 --> 02:17:00,240
look for neutral takes slash perspectives, and David mentioned the

2380
02:17:00,240 --> 02:17:02,570
show to me. I've been hooked since. As I listened

2381
02:17:02,570 --> 02:17:05,080
to the most recent episode, I was reminiscing about how

2382
02:17:05,080 --> 02:17:07,170
David put me onto the show, and as I listened

2383
02:17:07,170 --> 02:17:09,950
to the last episode, hearing David's donation note come through

2384
02:17:09,950 --> 02:17:12,070
the speakers, I knew it was a sign I had

2385
02:17:12,070 --> 02:17:15,830
to donate. Adam and John, you have... You two have

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02:17:15,830 --> 02:17:18,440
been and were two of the main constants in my

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02:17:18,440 --> 02:17:20,960
life since then. I won't list it all, but my

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02:17:20,960 --> 02:17:23,540
life is a complete 180 from when I first started

2389
02:17:23,540 --> 02:17:26,210
listening in a very good way. Thanks for all you

2390
02:17:26,210 --> 02:17:29,200
both did together. And Adam, you continue to do. I

2391
02:17:29,200 --> 02:17:31,710
only wish I could have donated when John was still

2392
02:17:31,710 --> 02:17:33,730
around, but it's never too late to show my support

2393
02:17:33,730 --> 02:17:36,340
for the greatest podcast in the universe. I look forward

2394
02:17:36,340 --> 02:17:38,740
to supporting the show more in the future and the

2395
02:17:38,740 --> 02:17:42,100
commemorative coin you mentioned for John. No jingles, no karma.

2396
02:17:42,240 --> 02:17:46,860
Yes, I think Jay has this all set up. and

2397
02:17:46,860 --> 02:17:49,630
it will be in the next newsletter. So if you

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02:17:49,630 --> 02:17:52,640
haven't subscribed to it yet, go to the show notes,

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02:17:53,080 --> 02:17:55,720
noagendashow.net. In the show notes there, you can find where

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02:17:55,720 --> 02:17:58,410
you can, I think there's even a link in the

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02:17:58,410 --> 02:18:02,000
menu bar and the banner there. So subscribe to it.

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02:18:02,020 --> 02:18:06,840
You'll hear all about it. Clueless Casting. I'm sorry, Baroness

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Monica first in Drayton Valley, Alberta, 202.02. See what you

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02:18:11,390 --> 02:18:14,380
did there. It's been a while since my last donation.

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02:18:14,520 --> 02:18:17,810
My sincere condolences to John's family and friends. Belated happy

2406
02:18:17,810 --> 02:18:20,880
birthday, Adam. I would like to request Jobs Karma for

2407
02:18:20,880 --> 02:18:25,250
Ken. That's from Baroness Monica. Well, we happily comply. Jobs,

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jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got

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karma. You've got karma. There's Clueless Casting in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania,

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02:18:36,900 --> 02:18:39,880
$200. ITM, thank you for the show. Missing JCD, but

2411
02:18:39,880 --> 02:18:42,970
enjoying the guest host so far. Oh, this sounds like

2412
02:18:42,970 --> 02:18:45,920
a threat. Well, not my first donation. It is my

2413
02:18:45,920 --> 02:18:50,080
first associate executive producer donation. Would you please de-douche me?

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02:18:51,920 --> 02:18:57,570
You've been de-douched. Oh. Shameless plug. I recently started a

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YouTube channel for fun, at Clueless Casting, and when I

2416
02:19:01,070 --> 02:19:03,680
saw that I had 33 subscribers, well, I knew it

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02:19:03,680 --> 02:19:06,260
was time to donate to the show. If you're into

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fishing, want some laughs, gaffes, and goofs, please check out

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at Clueless Casting on YouTube or Facebook. The only fishing

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channel on YouTube that makes the local fish feel completely

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safe. Please give me prayers that I can catch fish.

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Thank you for your attention to this matter, says Clueless

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Casting. And let me get your prayers jingle. Here we

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go. Where is it? Yes, got it. You've got it.

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Prayers. That was easy. And there's Linda Lupatkin from Castle

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Rock, Colorado with $200. And she says that AI can

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write your resume. Yep, your robot can do that. The

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02:19:49,550 --> 02:19:52,680
problem is it can write everyone else's as well. Linda

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02:19:52,680 --> 02:19:56,220
helps professionals and executives figure out what makes them different,

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what makes them valuable, and turns that value into a

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resume that gets results. Go to ImageMakersInc.com. That's ImageMakersInc with

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a K. And Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer

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02:20:06,650 --> 02:20:10,930
of winning resumes, because your resume should do more. then

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02:20:10,930 --> 02:20:16,200
just look good. - Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's

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02:20:16,200 --> 02:20:20,640
vote for jobs. - You saw, comma. - By the

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02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:23,940
way, I completely forgot to do a, oops, where was

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02:20:23,940 --> 02:20:26,190
it? Completely forgot to do a troll count. Let me

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02:20:26,190 --> 02:20:29,820
see how J-Cal did. Oh, J-Cal, you did good, 1,083.

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02:20:29,820 --> 02:20:34,020
Ooh, not bad. Oh, awesome. Scotty K is in Lakeshores,

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02:20:34,020 --> 02:20:37,540
Minnesota. $200 associate executive producer, the last one, and says

2441
02:20:37,540 --> 02:20:39,220
in the morning to you, Adam and J. Cal and

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02:20:39,220 --> 02:20:41,980
the rest of Gitmo Nation. It's Scotty K here, your

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02:20:41,980 --> 02:20:46,100
AI whisperer. Adam. I believe I now qualify for night

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02:20:46,100 --> 02:20:49,230
status. King me. You know what I mean. A tomahawk

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02:20:49,230 --> 02:20:52,260
steak and a bottle of Angry Orchard hard cider will

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02:20:52,260 --> 02:20:54,480
do just fine. Thank you very much. You got it.

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02:20:54,800 --> 02:20:56,920
For those of you who haven't taken a look at

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our stellar AI agent bot commander, what are you waiting

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for? It's free. Thanks to the genius of the value

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02:21:02,730 --> 02:21:05,140
for value model. Something must be working because he's done

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02:21:05,140 --> 02:21:07,920
this a couple. times now. We have a new team

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version coming out in the next couple of days that

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will allow you to have up to five people share

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the same workspace. It's super cool, so watch for it.

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With Bot Commander, you can create a new business or

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start automating your current one. It has built-in accounting, marketing,

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image and video creation, sales automation, a website builder, and

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more. I love this, by the way, especially since it's

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value for value. There are a lot more, a lot

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of home features, too, that will help you get organized.

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Way too much to cover here, so go to the

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website, botcom.ai. That's botcom.ai, with a B, B-O-T-C-O-M.ai. By the

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way, you can use free open source AI models or

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any of the frontier models. Don't get locked into a

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single AI provider. It wouldn't be prudent. Not at this

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junk. Keep your data private and help decentralize AI. Jason,

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hit me up, brother. This is far sexier than the

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open craw, crock pot, or that constipation one. Metamuse all.

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I'm all in. Remember, that's bot.com.ai with a B. Sayonara,

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senors and senoritas, he says. And thank you very much.

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02:22:11,420 --> 02:22:13,350
Scotty K is the last of our executive and associate

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02:22:13,350 --> 02:22:47,390
executives. Thank you. Yes! Whoa! And the rest of our

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list is pretty short. We do hit 8008 right away

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02:22:52,100 --> 02:22:55,100
with Kevin McLaughlin. He is the Archduke of Luna, lover

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02:22:55,100 --> 02:22:58,240
of America and boobs. And he says, save the Tadas.

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02:22:58,660 --> 02:23:02,940
October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Indeed it is. John

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02:23:02,940 --> 02:23:07,710
Alberini, $70.26. Les Tarkowski comes in with a small boob,

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02:23:07,710 --> 02:23:14,130
$60.06. Nathan Gwynn from Jackson, Tennessee, $52.72. Jennifer Williams from

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02:23:14,130 --> 02:23:19,180
Davy Crockett National Forest, $52.72. Says we'll always miss John,

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02:23:19,180 --> 02:23:22,600
but enjoying the rotating cast of guest hosts. Brad McDonald.

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02:23:22,720 --> 02:23:25,100
Mason, Ohio, that kicks off our 50s. It's just a

2482
02:23:25,100 --> 02:23:28,670
couple. Eric Timmer. Oh, thank you, Eric. Eric is the

2483
02:23:28,670 --> 02:23:33,430
one who gifted me the wonderful Asus computer. Really appreciate

2484
02:23:33,430 --> 02:23:35,660
it. I gave it a name. The name is Grace

2485
02:23:35,660 --> 02:23:37,580
because I feel like it was Grace that you gave

2486
02:23:37,580 --> 02:23:40,280
it. I really appreciate that. And he sends us $50.

2487
02:23:41,060 --> 02:23:44,000
And he says, from the provider of Compute ET, hi,

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02:23:44,070 --> 02:24:07,460
Thank you, brother. out of the show, anything that was

2489
02:24:07,460 --> 02:24:09,720
of value to you, just turn that into a number

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and send it back. No Agenda Donations dot com. You

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02:24:12,100 --> 02:24:14,540
can even set up a recurring donation, any amount, any

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02:24:14,540 --> 02:24:18,770
frequency. No Agenda Donations dot com. It's a bad day,

2493
02:24:18,770 --> 02:24:25,340
bad day. And we have just one on the calendar,

2494
02:24:25,340 --> 02:24:28,100
and he happens to be celebrating today. He's halfway through

2495
02:24:28,100 --> 02:24:31,620
the century, 50 today. Nicholas Heron celebrates, and we say

2496
02:24:31,620 --> 02:24:34,170
happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in

2497
02:24:34,170 --> 02:24:43,970
the universe. And I think we have... the two stragglers,

2498
02:24:43,970 --> 02:24:53,120
the last two ever. Ever. Order of the Ant. Exactly.

2499
02:24:54,300 --> 02:24:57,440
Last two Order of the Ants ever. We are shutting

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down the promotion. That's it. It's all over. It's done

2501
02:25:00,190 --> 02:25:03,830
with Nicholas Herron. And our second and final Order of

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02:25:03,830 --> 02:25:08,290
the Ant awardee is Sir Commodore Brennan. Congratulations to both

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02:25:08,290 --> 02:25:11,070
of you. You can go to knowagenteringz.com. Let us know

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02:25:11,070 --> 02:25:14,080
where to send that fine pen along with your official

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02:25:14,080 --> 02:25:17,860
certification, which comes with Burnt Edges. It is a beautiful

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02:25:17,860 --> 02:25:20,590
set and thank you both and thank everybody for joining

2507
02:25:20,590 --> 02:25:25,600
the official Order of the Ants. Order of the Ants.

2508
02:25:26,800 --> 02:25:29,500
And then the one night for today, I'm going to

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02:25:29,500 --> 02:25:32,980
just pull out my singular blade. Sir Scotty K, hop

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02:25:32,980 --> 02:25:36,140
on up here. Or actually, Scotty K, I should say.

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You're not quite a sir yet. Thanks to your support

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02:25:39,480 --> 02:25:41,870
in the amount of $1,000 or more. I am very

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02:25:41,870 --> 02:25:45,640
proud to pronounce the case. The as, Sir Scotty K.,

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02:25:45,640 --> 02:25:49,560
the Royal AI Whisperer. For you, sir, by request, we

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02:25:49,560 --> 02:25:52,680
have a tomahawk steak and a bottle of Angry Orchard

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02:25:52,680 --> 02:25:55,350
Hard Cider along with your hookers and blow your rent

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02:25:55,350 --> 02:25:58,320
poison chardonnay. Of course, to go along with that, we

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got some beer and blunts. Ruben S. Wilman and Rosé,

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geishas and sake, vodka, vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling

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cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils. We've got breast

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milk and pablum. And as always at the round table

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for all to enjoy, we have mutton and mead. So

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you also go to noagendarings.com and let me know your

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02:26:17,800 --> 02:26:20,470
ring size. Send that off. JL take care of you.

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Get the right ring. It is the beautiful signet ring.

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So that means you get some wax to seal your

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important correspondence and also a certificate of authenticity. One of

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02:26:29,210 --> 02:26:32,560
the last ones, obviously with a sign by myself and

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02:26:32,560 --> 02:26:35,530
John C. Dvorak. And thank you all very much. Thank

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02:26:35,530 --> 02:26:37,280
you very much. And thank you everybody for supporting us

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02:26:37,280 --> 02:26:48,610
here at NoAgendaDonations.com. No Agenda Beat Up! the no agenda

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02:26:48,610 --> 02:26:50,620
meetups i'm looking forward to the big one here in

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02:26:50,620 --> 02:26:53,800
fredericksburg on the 17th they take place all over the

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02:26:53,800 --> 02:26:56,620
world and we have a meetup from the north georgia

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odd month meetup this is their report In the morning,

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Gitmo Nation, Sir Bob here, protector of Western Foco, coming

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02:27:03,300 --> 02:27:06,200
at you from the North Georgia Odd Monthly Meetup. Everybody

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02:27:06,200 --> 02:27:07,800
had a good time as usual, so let's pass the

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02:27:07,800 --> 02:27:11,070
phone around and see what everybody has to say. This

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is not Nick the Rat's real voice, but it's close.

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02:27:14,660 --> 02:27:19,500
Thanks, Dana. Thanks, Adam. Love you guys. Hey, N.A., Dr.

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02:27:19,500 --> 02:27:25,530
Sir, Mike Roach. Yeah, we're enjoying the beautiful beverages here

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02:27:25,530 --> 02:27:30,480
at Cherry Street Brewing, and we're passing around the amazing

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02:27:30,480 --> 02:27:34,420
flavors. I think we're going to start the next fucking

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02:27:34,420 --> 02:27:38,780
pandemic. All right. This is Sir R. I'd like to

2546
02:27:38,780 --> 02:27:41,640
give a shout out to MMO and our Big Dumb

2547
02:27:41,640 --> 02:27:46,680
Mouth podcast. Love is lit. Sean here with Sean's tip

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02:27:46,680 --> 02:27:52,480
of the day. Don't take any wooden Bitcoin. Sir E,

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02:27:52,480 --> 02:27:56,960
connection is protection. Hey guys, no matter what I say,

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02:27:56,960 --> 02:27:59,960
Bob's going to cut me out. That's true. That's true.

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02:28:00,180 --> 02:28:04,790
Yes, that's true. That's true. Thanks. Hi everyone, this is

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02:28:04,790 --> 02:28:09,200
Nayira. It's great to be back after two years of

2553
02:28:09,200 --> 02:28:14,140
being on assignment. Oh, assignment. Hi, everyone. This is Callie

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02:28:14,140 --> 02:28:17,350
from Cherry Street in Alpharetta, Georgia. I'm happy to host

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02:28:17,350 --> 02:28:24,480
you guys. In the morning. That's right. Nice. Cherry Street

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02:28:24,480 --> 02:28:28,310
brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia. All right. Here's the list for

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02:28:28,310 --> 02:28:32,380
today. It's one, the Let's Get Fresh East Texas Meetup.

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Let's get fresh. It is, in fact, it just started.

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In fact, it is exactly 3.33 p.m. Central. So hello,

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02:28:39,630 --> 02:28:43,720
everybody there in Longview, Texas. Dirty Jersey Horror is organizing

2561
02:28:43,720 --> 02:28:47,300
that for you in Longview. On Thursday, that's our next

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02:28:47,300 --> 02:28:52,000
show day, Raleigh Rocktober meetup at 6 o'clock at Saints

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02:28:52,000 --> 02:28:55,010
and Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina. On the way in

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02:28:55,010 --> 02:29:10,480
the month of October. Okay. Charlotte, North Carolina on the

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15th, and Scottsdale, Arizona on the 16th. Long Beach, California,

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02:29:14,690 --> 02:29:17,720
Leo Bravo, I think, doing number 81 on the 17th.

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02:29:18,570 --> 02:29:22,090
And the big Fredericksburg, Texas meetup. You can come out

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02:29:22,090 --> 02:29:25,000
and meet the keeper. You can meet Matt Long and

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02:29:25,000 --> 02:29:27,970
his beautiful wife, Gail. There'll be quite a host of

2570
02:29:27,970 --> 02:29:32,270
people at J6 or Jenny's 1776 Bar and Full Moon

2571
02:29:32,270 --> 02:29:36,160
Bed and Breakfast. Please join us for that. Orlando, Florida

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02:29:36,160 --> 02:29:39,460
on the 21st. Smithville, Texas on the 24th. Los Altos,

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02:29:39,460 --> 02:29:43,180
California. California and Tilburg, the Netherlands, both on the 24th

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02:29:43,180 --> 02:29:47,520
as well. And in November on the 7th, Albany, California.

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02:29:47,800 --> 02:29:50,770
Come out and see the kids. Scottsdale, Arizona on the

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02:29:50,770 --> 02:29:53,850
7th. Charlotte, North Carolina the 19th. And then we're into

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02:29:53,850 --> 02:29:57,620
December. And we have meetups going all the way into

2578
02:29:57,620 --> 02:30:00,000
the new year. If you go to Noagen and meetups.

2579
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:03,870
ups.com there's no cost for this it is all produced

2580
02:30:03,870 --> 02:30:07,400
or organized it's super fun you'll meet people you probably

2581
02:30:07,400 --> 02:30:10,100
wouldn't have met ever before you have something in common

2582
02:30:10,100 --> 02:30:12,700
which is the best podcast in the universe and a

2583
02:30:12,700 --> 02:30:15,890
different way of looking at the world it is connection

2584
02:30:15,890 --> 02:30:18,290
that will give you protection for the rest of your

2585
02:30:18,290 --> 02:30:21,300
life these people will be first responders in any emergency

2586
02:30:21,300 --> 02:30:24,560
go to noagentandmeetups.com if you can't find one near you

2587
02:30:24,560 --> 02:30:28,040
start one yourself it's easy and always guaranteed a party

2588
02:30:28,040 --> 02:30:32,840
sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights

2589
02:30:32,840 --> 02:30:38,960
and days sometimes be where you won't be Triggered on

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02:30:38,960 --> 02:30:47,160
hell's flame You ♪ Everybody feels the same ♪ like

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02:30:47,160 --> 02:30:52,340
a party And that concludes our broadcast for today. We

2592
02:30:52,340 --> 02:30:58,240
thank Jason Calacanis for being here. And I think, I'm

2593
02:30:58,240 --> 02:31:01,230
not sure, is it Rob? No, I think it's Andrew

2594
02:31:01,230 --> 02:31:05,120
Horowitz on Thursday. That should be a hootenanny. And then

2595
02:31:05,120 --> 02:31:08,500
after that, I believe Rob Du will be back and...

2596
02:31:08,500 --> 02:31:12,180
We'll keep mixing it up. Wednesday, I will be on

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your favorite podcast app once again with We Get to

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Do This with Pastor Jimmy. A biblical worldview of what's

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02:31:20,390 --> 02:31:23,400
going on in your life. Please join us for that.

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WGTDT.com. End of show mixes. Got a nice lineup for

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02:31:30,040 --> 02:31:33,740
you today. We have Marcus, we have Melody, and we'll

2602
02:31:33,740 --> 02:31:37,070
kick it off with Adjust Baker. They are all dynamite,

2603
02:31:37,070 --> 02:31:40,280
I guarantee you. You will love them. Please continue to

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02:31:40,280 --> 02:31:44,770
support the show at noagendedonations.com. Looking forward to when we

2605
02:31:44,770 --> 02:31:49,260
see each other again, Gitmo Nation. Until then... Remember us

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02:31:49,260 --> 02:32:14,880
at noagenthedonations.com. Adios, little foes. Ahooey, hooey. And such. Thank

2607
02:32:14,880 --> 02:32:35,000
you. Apparently that part is existential.

2608
02:32:30,700 --> 02:32:34,960
We're racing China and AI. Apparently that part is existential.

2609
02:32:35,300 --> 02:32:38,220
But if the race gets weird, we've exchanged the emergency

2610
02:32:38,220 --> 02:32:43,400
credentials. Nothing says totally manageable like installing the hotline. Nothing

2611
02:32:43,400 --> 02:32:46,620
says ordinary software like agreeing what counts as the stop

2612
02:32:46,620 --> 02:32:50,090
sign. Build yours fast to keep us stronger. Keep their

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02:32:50,090 --> 02:32:53,240
chips from computing. Also, shouldn't it be? agent goes sideways

2614
02:32:53,240 --> 02:32:57,820
please observe incident reporting procedures it's not mutually assured destruction

2615
02:32:57,820 --> 02:33:01,860
that would sound unnecessarily drastic it's mutually assured notification which

2616
02:33:01,860 --> 02:33:07,120
sounds reassuringly bureaucratic hello beijing washington here something taught itself

2617
02:33:08,360 --> 02:33:11,850
Is this an AI incident? Depends which department writes the

2618
02:33:11,850 --> 02:33:16,400
reviewer. Tariffs come down on 30 billion toys, appliances, agriculture.

2619
02:33:16,540 --> 02:33:19,640
While the dangerous machine gets dialogue, trade gets a friendlier

2620
02:33:19,640 --> 02:33:23,420
aperture. We invented arms control grammar without admitting there's an

2621
02:33:23,420 --> 02:33:27,890
armament. Safety line beside the finish line. Both governments still

2622
02:33:27,890 --> 02:33:31,970
flooring it. No agenda. needs one clip before the experts

2623
02:33:31,970 --> 02:33:35,150
make it mystical if it needs a superpower hotline maybe

2624
02:33:35,150 --> 02:33:45,060
just another tool got political Value for value. How's it

2625
02:33:45,060 --> 02:34:12,260
reported? Thank you. to the best podcast in the universe.

2626
02:34:16,000 --> 02:34:21,560
No agenda is on the air. Adam Curry's at the

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02:34:21,560 --> 02:34:33,770
boards tonight. The producers funding everybody. ♪ Guest hosts keeping

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02:34:33,770 --> 02:34:40,460
the narrative clear ♪ ♪ Deconstructing the lies and the

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02:34:40,460 --> 02:34:45,310
fear ♪ ♪ 33, 33, 33 ♪ ♪ The formula

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02:34:45,310 --> 02:35:04,100
for what we see ♪ Thank you. The military complex

2631
02:35:02,300 --> 02:35:07,100
The military complex spends the fuel. Burning diesel is their

2632
02:35:04,100 --> 02:35:04,980
spends the future.

2633
02:35:07,100 --> 02:35:12,230
golden rule. Dropping payloads far across the sea. Wasting power

2634
02:35:12,230 --> 02:35:16,190
for the powers that be. They drive the cost of

2635
02:35:16,190 --> 02:35:27,880
energy high. Underneath a cloud-filled global sky. While normal people

2636
02:35:27,880 --> 02:35:29,600
freeze and starve

2637
02:35:33,400 --> 02:35:35,400
♪♪♪

2638
02:36:00,030 --> 02:36:14,000
🎵

2639
02:36:30,030 --> 02:36:59,980
The Carbon Footprint

2640
02:37:00,030 --> 02:37:06,240
But we've got no agenda to see the light Morning

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02:37:06,240 --> 02:37:14,160
glory in the night 33, 33 in the morning Robb

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02:37:14,160 --> 02:37:30,000
Dew's got clips stacked to the door 170 still won't

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02:37:30,020 --> 02:37:41,020
♪ It's more ♪ swans Clock says 6 a.m. Tina

2644
02:37:41,020 --> 02:37:44,400
nearly stands right in Dana's done the Hollywood round Still

2645
02:37:44,400 --> 02:37:47,500
gets nerves when the mic goes loud, loud, loud, loud,

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02:37:47,500 --> 02:37:55,360
loud Oh! Shoppers and abs, good hearts under me

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02:38:00,030 --> 02:38:06,170
Keeps the fire alive, no agenda in the morning Let

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02:38:06,170 --> 02:38:14,220
it roll till the daylight's dawning Donate to no agenda

2649
02:38:14,220 --> 02:38:28,390
John, I still wait for your reply That little pause,

2650
02:38:28,390 --> 02:38:30,000
that sideways line

2651
02:38:30,300 --> 02:38:35,310
The Eternal Father with loving eyes Looks down as all

2652
02:38:35,310 --> 02:38:57,100
the stories ride Your friends came round Chemistry.

2653
02:39:00,030 --> 02:39:06,600
Adam keeps the fire alive. No agenda in the morning.

2654
02:39:07,000 --> 02:39:14,880
No agenda in the morning. Don't hate to no agenda.

2655
02:39:17,140 --> 02:39:30,000
Don't hate to no agenda. The Best Punks!

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Fat Lady!
