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We are creative people. Adam Curry. It's Sunday, October 4th,

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2026. This is your award-winning Kimbo Nation Media Assassination episode

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1909. This is no agenda. That's right. It's Sunday, everybody,

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coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill

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Country here in Fredericksburg, Texas. Another multi-hour media deconstruction lined

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up for you. Oh, man, we're looking for an October

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surprise now, aren't we? Coming up within just 90 seconds,

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he's back once again, the one and only, Mr. Rob

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Deucer-Ducifer. Ladies. Gentlemen! controls of Missing the arrival of a

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mere man. whose reputation arrived five minutes before he did.

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The customer! Hi, everybody. Yeah, you got to hit us

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with the lisp. Hello, I'm here. Oh, my goodness. Was

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that Melody? No, that was Sir Joho. He came in

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all of a sudden. Yeah, it's like the Suno V6

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or whatever, and it's... It's interesting. It's interesting. You know,

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the AI is going to take over, definitely. But I'm

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doing my best to try and hold them off as

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much as possible. Oh, please. Just wave the flag already,

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man. Use it. Use it or lose it. I'm telling

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you. Yeah, everyone's all on this. Well, you know, there's

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some interesting stuff about AI and music and what it

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could do. Yeah, because you're in the studio, right? You're

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recording stuff now? I'm recording stuff. We've been recording for

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the past month. Did some more recording yesterday. We were

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at this thing in New Orleans, and... One of the

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there's a bunch of lawyers doing presentations. So what are

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you doing? What are you doing with a bunch of

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lawyers in New Orleans? That's bad. Well, that's how presidents

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get killed. Exactly. Oh, yeah. Absolutely right. But what happened

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was they're saying, well, we don't know. There's no precedent

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set yet. Yeah. So say you make an AI song

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and you're making money off of it. At some point,

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these companies can go, hey, you owe us money. You

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made it with our system. We own your song, actually.

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We're just going to take it. So they said that

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hasn't happened yet, but that could happen. So that's something

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to look out for if you are making money with

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this music. Hmm. But that could be an end around

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for because lawyers love to find money in certain places.

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If anyone comes for your stuff, man, you just call

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the suits and boots and you get constitutional lawyer Rob

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on the case. You'll be OK. Well, I'm not worried

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about my stuff. Definitely not worried about my. But there

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are people that I know that do this a lot.

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And. We had a guy with us who all of

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his songs are AI that he's made and he sings

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to with them. He does the singing, but all the

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instrumentation is AI. And he didn't seem he didn't seem

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worried about it. Well, from what I understand, the Suno

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deal is, you know, all these labels came after them

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and they said, OK, well, we'll make it like this.

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Because apparently they have technology. They can detect exactly where

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certain pieces of sound came from. I don't know if

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it's composition, but there's got to be some recorded sound,

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obviously. And so they have some way of calculating which

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of the publishing companies owns what. And so Suno had

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to cut this deal with him so that you cannot

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you can no longer download songs. You can only download

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them once or twice if you pay an extra amount

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per per month. But what I'm seeing. You know, because

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a while back and I forget what the reason was,

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but John and I were talking like, oh, I'll put

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no agenda back on Spotify. And so put it back

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on Spotify and every other episode gets taken down. And

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it's always like music violation, music violation. And they have,

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you know, I'm sure they're their robots are just looking

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for any music and just better be safe and sorry.

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Yeah. But it's always for end of show mixes. Right.

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Right. Yeah, exactly. But today it won't be. Oh. If

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you follow my protocol, I have two end of show

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mixes that I recorded myself. Oh, boy. I didn't even

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see them in your – oh, there they are. It

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says the EOS. Yeah. I see it. And it had

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to do with a trip I took. I took a

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one-night little trip. with a friend uh a friend of

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mine he's in the band and uh he was leading

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a drum circle and he's like hey you want to

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come and he's like i have an extra ticket and

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i said sure let's do it is a drum circle

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where you smoke weed and sit in a circle and

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then hit the drums is that basically a drum circle

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That is one version of a drum circle. There wasn't

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a lot of weed being passed around at this. That's

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a bogus drum circle. That one's no good. You should

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get your money back. Well, you know, I didn't have

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to pay anything, but it was called Medicine for the

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very hippie gathering, and I'm thinking there's going to be

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weed everywhere. And these people like to mix weed with

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tobacco. That's how I used to smoke it, man. That's

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it. Right. It's a European thing. Yep. Because – When

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I was in Switzerland, that's how they smoked it. Yeah,

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it's called a spliff. That's exactly right. And so he

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was – this guy actually started the drum circle for

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this group. He kind of led it for years, and

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now it's huge. So he's still there. And – I

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brought my little, I have a gourd drum, which is

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basically a hollowed out gourd. And so it's very lightweight.

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to have a wagon and pull these things because they're

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so damn big and heavy. But I have my little

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gourd drum, and I'm just... But I saw... But on

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my way to the drum circle, there's this tent, and

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I hear this beautiful flute music playing. I'm like, oh,

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what's this? I go in there, and everybody's laying down

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meditating. And this dude's playing flute, and he's got sound...

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bulls his girlfriend or wife i guess his wife is

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this is basically a doing the sound bowls satanic circle

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is what i'm hearing no i don't you know what

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i'd never heard people talk about god so much oh

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really okay i'm serious i'm serious it was It was

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a lot of praise the Lord, praise Jesus. I never

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– and I was surprised at how many times I'd

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heard it. I actually started taking a mental note. By

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like the fourth time, I'm like, this is getting interesting.

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Wow. But I think the hippie kind of culture is

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a little more – they're a little more God-based. than

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like your typical raving culture. If you were to go

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to like a raving ceremony. You mean Burning Man, yes.

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not a lot of God talk there. I think they

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kick out the God people if they start talking too

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much. No God on the playa. Exactly. Exactly. Only dust

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and whatever drugs you can find. Mud and drugs. And

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mud, yeah. Well, speaking of mud, We got ACL this

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weekend, and it's a mud bath. Oh, my Lord. Tina

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said to me, said, you could not pay me to

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go there. We've been, I think we went together twice,

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I think. And even then, it was like, you know,

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when you see teenage girls just fall flat on their

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face, be a blackout drunk. It's like, I'm too old

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for that, man. I don't understand how they could get

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that drunk because you've got to wait 45 minutes to

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get a beer. You've got to wait 45 minutes to

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get to the bathrooms. I don't know how you even

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watch music at these things. It's such an elitist thing,

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like the Golden Pass. You pay $1,200 and then you

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get the special. It's basically to get access to a

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bar. And then you get some seats up front, I

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think. Austin is elite. Oh, big time. Let's face it.

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That's why I live in Driftwood. Yeah, exactly. You got

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to get out. Get out of Austin. So I'm looking

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at your clip list, and, man, I can just tell

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you put together a no agenda list of clips. I

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mean, I am loving what, of course, rules are. I

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don't listen to anything beforehand. But since you had such

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a grand entrance, you threw off your – Your dressing

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gown, you had the babes with you, a big WWD

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entrance. I will let you choose wherever you want to

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go first because I don't think there's a single thing

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that is not spot on the money that I'm seeing

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on your list. Well, here's the interesting thing. I saw

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the show art for the last show, and it had

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the plumber flying the plane. So I look at that,

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and I'm like, oh, they covered this already. And then

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I – Listen to the show with you and Horowitz,

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who I think did a great job as well. Horowitz,

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you know, especially with his long winded clips of nothing

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going on. That was great. Yeah. You know, the thing

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is, the thing with Andrew, he's like, how'd I do?

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How'd I do? You were great, man. It's like, you

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know, thank you. It's awesome. And then I see him

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on X and he's answering people and he's engaging. engaging

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like oh my lord yeah text me again well what's

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the verdict i said well as you'd expect a lot

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of people love you some hate you a lot of

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people hate you some love you it's like it's it's

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x man but it's gone to his head already gone

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to his head i mean i have First of all,

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this is not an audition. You know, it's like everyone's,

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well, that's the guy. Oh, no, he's the guy. That's

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the guy. This is the guy. That's the guy. Everyone's

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the guy. I like what this is, what's happening right

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now with the different co-hosts because, you know, I don't

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have the pressure of having to come up with clips.

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I don't know how you do it. But, like, just.

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thinking about it and going, oh, I've got to find

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these clips and do this, or that's a good clip,

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I'm going to send it to myself and get it

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later. And being able to hear everybody's perspective, and the

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way you timed it out with Cal Canis having his

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– Big symposium and you get him on right after

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that. Like you had it timed perfectly. That was Providence.

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I had no idea. I had no idea. I really

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didn't. I didn't know. I'm glad he did it. I

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mean, when you do something like that. And I'd sent

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him the invite from Rotterdam. So it popped up at

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6 a.m. his time. So he didn't even see it.

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And I'm like, dude, you coming on the show? Like,

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oh, oh, oh, crap. Give me five minutes to freshen

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up. Let me let the dogs out. He was –

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he's definitely a country boy because he goes outside to

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– or was it – It was him or Dana.

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Like, let me go outside. I have to go use

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the bathroom. I'll be right back. That's Dana. That was

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Dana. Yeah. Getting all the perspectives from everybody and then

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having Horowitz come in and you guys were talking the

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financials and AI and what's going on because we really,

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you know, you've been hitting the AI drum. In the

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drum circle. You're the guy in there talking about AI

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the whole time while people are trying to drum. And

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it's – you really have been hitting it hard. But

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it's been – and I'm taking a step back because

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I'm like, uh, AI. I'm like, uh, there's guys in

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the office that love it. And I'm just like, whatever.

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To me, it's another flash in the pan trend. But

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I do see some things happening. Yeah. On our end,

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in our media operation over here. In your workflow. Yeah,

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where people are doing it. Not just to make fun

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videos, because that's great, and I love the funny videos.

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And I usually, I'm an idea guy. I'll throw out

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an idea about something, and these guys put it together,

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and I'm like, ha, ha, look what I did. Yeah.

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building pieces of software that we're going to use in

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production that I think and what you've already done. Yep.

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That's the, that's going to be the game changer because

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software makers make crappy software. I don't know why, but,

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But they'll make it with little guardrails in it that

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don't help your production flow. And you don't realize it

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until you get into that flow. And then you're like,

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wait a minute. Why can't we play this clip? Oh,

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it hasn't been turned into the right codec yet. So

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you're nailing it on this. This is the first thing

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I realized with the coding agents is – software. I

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told Horowitz, short Microsoft, man. It's like I don't use

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a spreadsheet. I don't use Excel. I don't even use

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LibreOffice anymore. I just made a donation spreadsheet reader that

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doesn't – snap cells and it pulls out the jingle

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requests and then you know i can click on it

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and the jingle loads up and that's what i needed

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and i think it's phenomenal for that so we're going

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to go with your death of software death of software

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video game related and it's also also spot on yeah

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Right. It's very interesting. This is one guy talking to

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himself. It's the different perspectives. So when you hear two

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people talking, it's the same guy. You mean on TikTok

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or is this YouTube? I find everything on X at

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this point, but it probably was on TikTok. I probably

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cut out the TikTok ending though. But yeah, so it's

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in three parts and we could talk about each part.

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I kind of cut them up where there's a good

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spot to talk about things. They put me a little

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into Modern Warfare 2. Why are you giving me that

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look? Isn't that so cool? An AI did that. Oh

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my gosh, please tell me you're not one of those

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AI protesters. No, it's not that. What is it then?

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What is it then? An AI reverse engineered an entire

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video game. And? That's not new. No, it's entirely new.

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Reverse engineering is one of the most complex and time-consuming

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tasks in software development. Okay. Don't you get it? GPT

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and Claude have released models intelligent enough to perform tasks

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that were deemed so difficult, they were considered a form

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of security. What are you trying to get at? Listen,

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as much as you see a game in front of

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you, you know and love. This is about the security

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and copyright protection of every single piece of software ever

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developed in human history. We'll get with the times. Artists

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have been having to deal with this for years now.

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If anything, it's kind of like payback to the tech

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world. No, no, no. You're not understanding. I'm talking about

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every single product you use. Games, mobile apps, desktop software.

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They're going to be reverse engineered and understood faster than

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human beings can protect them. The entire world runs on

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the assumption that some information is computationally impractical to uncover.

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Your bank account, military communications, government intelligence, authentication systems, private

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messaging, understanding millions of lines of encrypted, undocumented code were

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supposed to be the security. The start is all fun

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and cute. Games are being reverse-engineered, but then payback.

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Before services become free. Yeah. That's right. You want Dropbox?

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Don't pay for Dropbox. Just make your own. Make it

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yourself. Yeah, make your own Dropbox. And what they're talking

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about is there's a game called Call of Duty Modern

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Warfare 2. Yeah. And some people hacked it apparently. And

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now you can play Halo, which is like one of

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the originals. you know, first person shoot them up games.

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Now you can bring in your halo characters into that.

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And there's other games that are doing this. But that's,

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you know, he's saying when I heard this clip, I'm

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like, this is what you and Horowitz were talking about,

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but not as dramatic with the background music. Well, and

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we don't talk to ourselves. There's a difference there. It's

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– one of the trolls, Tesla Coil, said, death of

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software, the rise of maker brands. I like that. Yeah,

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maker brands. But that could lead to some interesting things.

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Like what happens if you're – some guy doesn't like

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the power company, and he's like, you know what? I'm

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going to make sure that they're giving me the right

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rates, and then – They re-engineer the, the elect, can

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they re-engineer the electrical grid? Can't. Can people do that?

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Will that happen in the future? Are we two months

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away from that happening or two years away? Well, it

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is October. We're waiting for the surprise. So anything that

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AI can do to make Trump look bad would be

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this would be the next four weeks. This is the

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time to do it before the election. That's it. That's

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exactly it. All right. We'll go to two. Next will

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be old government infrastructure. Banks running on. 20-year-old software, telecom

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networks, satellites, systems that nobody would want to replace because

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it would cost them billions. Okay, you're starting to freak

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me out. Then trust disappears. We'll get to the point

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where markets close because they don't know which transactions are

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legitimate. Banks freeze transfers. Companies stop accepting digital payments. Governments

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isolate their networks. Supply chains lose their schedulings. Ports stop

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moving cargo. Hospitals disconnect their equipment from networks. Airlines ground

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all their flights. We are talking about the disappearance of

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all white collar jobs. Swipe a card and food appears

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Press the button and gasoline moves across the continent Click

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buy In ten companies Three banks, two warehouses A satellite

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and a truck driver Coordinated without you ever seeing it

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And it all goes away. Nobody knows whether it's Russia

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or China, some corporation, or a 16-year-old sitting in his

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bedroom. Or at his mom's basement. Well, we'll play your

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kicker, then I want to play a throwback clip. Okay.

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What this reminds me of. You want, you need to

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set this up or is this just, this is obvious?

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No, the kicker is just the end of it. But

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what's interesting also is this is, he appears to be

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a Gen Z talking about this. You know, you would

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think it would be more of a Luddite class like

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yourself. or Horowitz that would be doing this. Hold on,

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what do you mean Luddite? I'm part of the Luddite

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class. I'm one of those people that doesn't, I hate

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upgrading anything. I hate it. It's terrible. So I consider

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myself part of the Luddite class. Okay, here we go.

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I'm afraid we've opened Pandora's box. But humanity hasn't even

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recognized it yet because we've been too excited holding the

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lid. And now it's become the mark of the beast.

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the birthing pains of the rapture. The second coming of

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the nuclear bomb. but instead of fission. It's just text.

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Text. Did you see they also put Minecraft in Skyrim?

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That's good. It's just text. It's just text. Death by

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text. Sir Gene had an interesting question for me this

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morning. He sent me a link to, what is this

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thing called? The pseudo by new matter. And it's basically,

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you know, an iPhone, an iPod. And he says, and

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it's, you know, they sell it for $299. It has

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all your music downloaded or streaming. And his question is,

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are the alphas tired of smartphones? It might be. It

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might be. But I don't think we have any... Any

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idea what is coming, what is going to happen other

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than severe disruption. But I think severe disruption of companies

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that have essentially held us hostage for decades with their

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crappy software. Well, you know, they're trying when you make

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software and I've been involved in software projects and service

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projects, you try to make it work for everybody. And

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ultimately, it works for nobody. It doesn't really do the

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thing exactly the way you want to do it or

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you're hitting menus and going left and right. And you

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have to remember how the computer is not working for

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you. You're working the computer. And that is the thing

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that to me is so exciting, particularly with technology. Linux,

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I'm sorry, GNU, Linux, and Omachi, which, you know, was

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really built around the whole concept of your agents built

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in and you tell it what you need it to

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do. And it's going to build that for you right

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there on your computer. And in fact, I did, I

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made something the other day, which was very simple for

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me. You know what an MCP server is? No. I'm

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not even sure what it stands for. But it's a

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thing. It's a server that sits in front of a,

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for lack of a better term, a data source. And

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it exposes tools and ways that you're... agent, your bot,

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you know, I just keep calling it a robot, that

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your robot can interact with that data source. And so

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I happen to be co-owner of a large data source

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being the podcast index, podcastindex.org. Which is, you know, we

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don't charge for it. It's really for developers and app

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developers and to keep podcasting open and free so no

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one captures it and sees Spotify and Apple. I mean,

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Spotify dropped a billion dollars. They couldn't turn it into

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a walled garden. It just didn't work. Even when hiring

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Rogan, it just didn't work. Because podcasting is in a

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way like Bitcoin, just open, free and kind of in

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destroy RSS, I should say, is it flows, it flows

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and it was always meant to flow. So I created

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an MCP server, which allows your robot to really ask

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for any kind of information on the index. So, you

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know, and I've given some examples. I said, well, I

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want what you know, whenever a new episode of Rogan

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comes out, let me know. Show me who's on the

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show, what the topic is. And if it's an MMA

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show, don't even bother me. And so the robot is

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now tracking that. It's called podcast index robot dot com.

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And it's interesting. Maybe 15% of people are like, Curry,

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you're taking us into Armageddon. I hate you. You're peddling.

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You shill. You're peddling slap. But the rest are like,

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wow, I can actually find podcasts. This has always been

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the problem of podcasting is discovery. That's why. Because nobody

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can advertise. It's hard to advertise for a new podcast.

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Well, here's the crazy thing. So I was talking about

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this with Dave Jones, my partner, on the – we

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call it the board meeting podcasting 2.0. It's on Fridays.

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And actually, it would be great, Sir Bemrose, if you

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line it up for after today's show. It might be

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fun for people to listen to. And so we're chatting

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away, and then I'm just rolling this out. I hadn't

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told Dave what I was doing, and he's looking at

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it. He says, hmm, okay. And they say, well, let's,

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you know, because now basically the podcast index robot dot

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com does nothing. It just exposes a way for robots

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to access the data. And so we did a little

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experiment, you know, robot. Go get me the most recent

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episode of Ed Zitron's Better Offline. Now, I don't know

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who Ed Zitron is, but he's the guy that correctly

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is saying that all these companies, it's a big circular

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financing company. you know, bubble and it's going to blow

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up. I've heard that, the moving of funds. Yeah, probably

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not wrong. But he has six minutes of advertising at

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the beginning of the show, all dynamically inserted. And so

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I say, robot, go get the most recent episode of

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Ed Zitron and just cut off the ads, dude. Like,

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okay, here it is. I cut out, you know, better

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help, sleep well, Chevron. And they told me what it

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cut out. And I hit the play button and boom,

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it started right with this podcast. So this, and that's

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not how I'm marketing it, but that is just an

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example of the power that the people now have. And

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it's going to disrupt everything. So I 100% agree. It's

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definitely, especially the software industry, you're 100% right about this

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software industry. Well, but think about it. Armageddon that's going

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to happen. But not a lot of people are using

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it yet, but three years, it's going to be a

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whole different ballgame. Oh, it's going to be three months.

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I mean, think about it. Music is software. It's just

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software. There's no difference between a podcast, a music, or

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a sermon, or a YouTube video. It's all software. So

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that's how you got to look at this stuff. Now,

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luckily, these things aren't, you know, I don't know about

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Elon Musk and his robots. Yeah, sure. Whatever. I see

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a robot doing the dishes very slowly. That would be

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quite frustrating for my $50,000. But this reminds me of

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David Bowie's 1999 interview with Jeremy Paxman on the BBC.

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I don't think we've even seen the tip of the

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iceberg. I think the potential of what the Internet is

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going to do to society, both good and bad, is

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unimaginable. I think we're actually on the cusp of something

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exhilarating and terrifying. It's just a tool though, isn't it?

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No, it's not. No, it's an alien life form. What

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do you think, I mean, when you think then about...

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Is there life on Mars? Yes, it's just landed here.

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But it's simply a different delivery system there. You're arguing

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about something more profound. Oh, yeah, I'm talking about the

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actual context and the state of content is going to

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be so different to anything that we can really envisage

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at the moment, where the interplay between the user and

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the provider will be so... in simpatico is going to

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crush our ideas of what mediums are all about. Boom!

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Did he say envisage? Is that the word he used?

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Did he say envisage? I don't know. Anything we can

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really envisage at the moment. Yeah, anything we can envisage.

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He's a Brit. Envisage. Envision, imagine, envisage, envisage, envisage. But

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he was right. He was a little early, but he

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was right. Man, I miss that guy. There's clips of

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Jim Morrison talking about sort of the same thing, but

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with music. He said, eventually you're just going to have

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a guy playing loops and tapes over and over again.

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And people say to me, well, there'll always be live

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music. I say, yeah, but let me burst your bubble.

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99% of all live music, commercial live music, bigger than

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a bread box venue, and even such, is all using

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multi-tracks. Yeah. Everybody, and if you know what multi-tracks is...

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You know, it's essentially you're you're you're playing along to

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your own music and the engineer on the board can

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mix, you know, thing if if the bass guy couldn't

466
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,510
show up and put the bass in. Oh, we don't

467
00:26:37,510 --> 00:26:40,050
have horns, but they sound good on the record. So

468
00:26:40,050 --> 00:26:42,400
we'll add the horns there. I mean, in excess was

469
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,200
doing this in 1987. Yeah. Who was the best at

470
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,670
it? Milli Vanilli. They were doing everything. That was the

471
00:26:50,670 --> 00:26:54,660
ultimate multi-tracks. And they won a Grammy. Come on, man.

472
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,520
What's the problem? That's how you know it's all junk.

473
00:26:58,020 --> 00:27:00,760
So let's not stick on AI, but go to the

474
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,930
fly of Dubai because I – As I said on

475
00:27:03,930 --> 00:27:07,370
the last episode with Horowitz, I said until we get

476
00:27:07,370 --> 00:27:10,630
the CVR and the CD, so the flight, the data

477
00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:15,800
recorder and the cockpit voice recorder, we really won't know.

478
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,900
All data that we have is flawed. You know, every

479
00:27:19,900 --> 00:27:24,950
eyewitness has a different – version of the accounts you

480
00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:27,440
know it dipped a little then it did more but

481
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,500
you know i'm not seeing Videos of overhead bins opened

482
00:27:32,500 --> 00:27:37,170
and people crushed against the back, which would happen with

483
00:27:37,170 --> 00:27:42,700
a 36 degree descent. Well, 6,000 feet per minute. You

484
00:27:42,700 --> 00:27:45,800
know, yeah, tail fin ripped off. That is indicative of

485
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,920
some very of overspeeding. But still, even Boeing is probably

486
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,970
scratching their heads if it really was exceeding VNE by

487
00:27:53,970 --> 00:27:56,730
100 knots. Like, okay, well, man, we built a good

488
00:27:56,730 --> 00:28:01,180
plane. Yeah. Trump gave him a shout-out on – His

489
00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:05,480
true social saying they've made a great plane. Well, imagine.

490
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,800
Imagine President Trump using that to tout American industry. Imagine.

491
00:28:11,620 --> 00:28:14,070
So what did you bring? Okay, so this – and

492
00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:17,110
this clip is kind of old, but this came out

493
00:28:17,110 --> 00:28:19,030
– when I say old, it came out, I think,

494
00:28:19,030 --> 00:28:22,040
Thursday, the day of the show. But I'm like, I

495
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,910
need to bring this to the show because this is

496
00:28:23,910 --> 00:28:26,530
Aaron Burnett interviewing a couple pilots who are in a

497
00:28:26,530 --> 00:28:30,820
simulator. Oh, goodness. This is my favorite. The guy off

498
00:28:30,820 --> 00:28:33,380
to the left is the older captain, and then the

499
00:28:33,380 --> 00:28:36,280
guy on the right, I guess he's playing the part

500
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,110
of the Indian pilot who got axed with the hatchet

501
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:41,920
or whatever. The crash ax. And I've heard different things.

502
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,860
Yeah. They were stabbing him. And I'll get to that

503
00:28:44,860 --> 00:28:46,660
in a second. But this is the first one where

504
00:28:46,660 --> 00:28:48,820
she she asked him and he kind of sets it

505
00:28:48,820 --> 00:28:50,660
up what they're going to do. I don't know. I'm

506
00:28:50,660 --> 00:28:52,450
sure people have seen this, but you never know if

507
00:28:52,450 --> 00:28:55,560
people haven't seen it. It was interesting to hear. So

508
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,780
I wanted to bring it to share here. I think

509
00:28:57,780 --> 00:28:59,980
there's at least 10 of these flights a day, right?

510
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,970
Back and forth and back and forth. Most people on

511
00:29:01,970 --> 00:29:04,260
that plane have probably been on that route many times.

512
00:29:04,380 --> 00:29:06,660
And you look down, and it's desert pretty much the

513
00:29:06,660 --> 00:29:09,720
whole way. So you're just kind of lulled there, staring

514
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,370
into space, and then it drops more than 20,000 feet

515
00:29:12,370 --> 00:29:15,290
in 35 seconds, finally topping out at a speed we

516
00:29:15,290 --> 00:29:20,360
understand of 700 miles an hour plus. So... So can

517
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,190
you just show us what that looks like? We certainly

518
00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:26,440
can. And Aaron, hello. Thanks for inviting us onto the

519
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,210
show tonight and all your viewers, of course. Angelo is

520
00:29:29,210 --> 00:29:33,690
going to take us through exactly that procedure that happened

521
00:29:33,690 --> 00:29:36,390
to the flight and by flight. I will be trying

522
00:29:36,390 --> 00:29:40,390
to give everyone a little bit of information on what's

523
00:29:40,390 --> 00:29:43,400
happening on the primary flight display as we go along

524
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,630
and if you can give us the external view of

525
00:29:45,630 --> 00:29:49,010
the aircraft when you're ready Angela thank you there we

526
00:29:49,010 --> 00:29:51,860
are with the flight of I that's the 800 model

527
00:29:51,860 --> 00:29:56,090
right there and right there is the overspeed warning and

528
00:29:56,090 --> 00:29:58,380
I'm gonna just get my hand in here if I

529
00:29:58,380 --> 00:29:59,960
can and start pointing a little bit on

530
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,820
screened If you can see my hand on the left

531
00:30:02,820 --> 00:30:05,160
side of that screen right there, there's the barber pole

532
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,140
indicating the overspeed. We're looking at nothing but ground on

533
00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:10,610
the prime reflect display on the additive care and the

534
00:30:10,610 --> 00:30:12,760
jet. If you can take a look in the center

535
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,640
of your screen, that is approximately what we would have

536
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:20,410
seen. We are now recovering at about 18,000, 17,000, 16,000

537
00:30:20,410 --> 00:30:22,600
feet, perhaps a little more of a dive than the

538
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,360
air. of graphic today. Yeah, this is why we need

539
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,220
the cockpit voice recorder. Did we hear the overspeed warning?

540
00:30:30,380 --> 00:30:34,330
We really just don't know anything. But I appreciate Aaron

541
00:30:34,330 --> 00:30:37,220
Burnett uh saying well you know you're just sitting there

542
00:30:37,220 --> 00:30:39,320
just you know playing trying to set it up trying

543
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,500
to yeah if you're just sitting around looking at the

544
00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:44,020
desert you know yeah that's that's what we do pilots

545
00:30:44,020 --> 00:30:46,610
yeah we just sit around and look at the desert

546
00:30:46,610 --> 00:30:49,750
okay and and so i've heard lots of different stories

547
00:30:49,750 --> 00:30:52,360
um one one of which uh sir scott sent me

548
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,880
i don't know if he sent this one to you

549
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,020
but uh a guy Captain Steve or something. Of course.

550
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,520
Captain Steve. Captain Steve is never wrong. Steve. He interviewed.

551
00:31:04,260 --> 00:31:06,550
Well, what's funny is at the end, Captain Steve starts

552
00:31:06,550 --> 00:31:08,840
talking about the helper and Mr. Rogers. He's like, there's

553
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,300
helpers out there. Helpers helped. They pulled the bad guy

554
00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:15,470
out of the cockpit. Other helpers were deadhead pilots, and

555
00:31:15,470 --> 00:31:17,980
they showed up. And I'm just like, wow, he's really

556
00:31:17,980 --> 00:31:21,240
debasing it down to, like, you know, kindergarten level. This

557
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,790
is insane. Which makes, you know, I'm looking at the

558
00:31:23,790 --> 00:31:26,620
whole thing going, what they're telling us, I don't think

559
00:31:26,620 --> 00:31:30,710
happened. No. Because you look at the videos, you look

560
00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:34,020
at the pictures. Yeah. There was one that I posted

561
00:31:34,020 --> 00:31:37,190
in it. There's a cup of water in the guy's

562
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:39,750
drink holder. And, you know, people were like, well, it

563
00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:41,760
had a cover on it. I'm like, okay, do you

564
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,860
think that cup of water is going to stay there

565
00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:47,040
when this thing does a 36-degree dip? And one guy

566
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,630
is saying it also made it bank to the left

567
00:31:49,630 --> 00:31:54,140
as it was descending. There's another guy saying, well, it's

568
00:31:54,140 --> 00:31:56,270
going to stay there. He shut off the engines because

569
00:31:56,270 --> 00:31:58,990
the emergency lights were on, so – And you can

570
00:31:58,990 --> 00:32:02,340
see that from the video. And you know the plumber,

571
00:32:02,340 --> 00:32:05,350
he pulled up on the stick and he relit the

572
00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:07,770
engines, no doubt. And then there's the plumber. Yeah, did

573
00:32:07,770 --> 00:32:09,890
he know to flash the engines? I mean, how is

574
00:32:09,890 --> 00:32:11,990
this guy going to pull them out of a dive

575
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:14,800
like that? You're like, okay, this is Pecos Bill and

576
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,680
Paul Bunyan. This is a tall tale. Why, I don't

577
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,680
know. But there was a... You know, there was the

578
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,480
supposed attack that was thwarted at the Capitol. There was

579
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,050
another one in Manchester. And, you know, these are all

580
00:32:26,050 --> 00:32:29,350
going after Jewish type organizations. So this is another in

581
00:32:29,350 --> 00:32:33,470
that line of things. Well, maybe they had an incident

582
00:32:33,470 --> 00:32:36,280
up in the air where the rudder came off and

583
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,280
they're like, OK, let's. Let's figure out a way to

584
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,190
make us the victim. That could be a whole other

585
00:32:40,190 --> 00:32:44,060
thing, too. Hey, the plane is falling apart. I got

586
00:32:44,060 --> 00:32:47,420
Boeing stock. Quick, hit me with the axe. Yeah. All

587
00:32:47,420 --> 00:32:49,560
right. So here's the – I think this is the

588
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,340
part where the pilot says, hey, you know, I can't

589
00:32:52,340 --> 00:32:55,250
believe they're at this speed descending. So this is number

590
00:32:55,250 --> 00:32:57,120
two. I know there were some people, they said they

591
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,150
were sort of standing by the bathroom, right? They would

592
00:32:59,150 --> 00:33:01,810
have fallen immediately. I mean, frankly, it's miraculous with something

593
00:33:01,810 --> 00:33:05,210
like that, that people didn't get more seriously injured or

594
00:33:05,210 --> 00:33:09,230
die. That's correct. I'm answering the stick shaker. It's the

595
00:33:09,230 --> 00:33:11,980
overspeed warning that's clicking away in the background, not the

596
00:33:11,980 --> 00:33:13,890
stick shaker. Stick shaker's at the other end of the

597
00:33:13,890 --> 00:33:16,800
spectrum where you're stalling the aircraft. That is still going.

598
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,490
We are just coming into about 500 knots. So some

599
00:33:20,490 --> 00:33:24,470
of the numbers that we're seeing from the reporting initially

600
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:27,380
are... they don't make sense to me because if you're

601
00:33:27,380 --> 00:33:30,740
saying that rapidly, your craft would have disagreed completely. So

602
00:33:30,740 --> 00:33:32,900
the numbers will change when we get the preliminary report.

603
00:33:33,140 --> 00:33:36,170
Oh, that's interesting. Because those, I mean, as you point

604
00:33:36,170 --> 00:33:37,880
out, those are only the numbers that we have right

605
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,730
now. But interesting that you said that that could have

606
00:33:39,730 --> 00:33:42,240
caused it to break apart. Yeah. You know what other

607
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:50,050
numbers were unbelievable? The twin tower speeds of those aircraft

608
00:33:50,050 --> 00:33:53,880
at an altitude that was too low for them even

609
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,900
to fly that fast. I mean, so we have no

610
00:33:56,900 --> 00:33:59,900
data. I don't know why we don't have it yet.

611
00:34:00,090 --> 00:34:03,380
Well, listen, I've been told on X by several people

612
00:34:03,380 --> 00:34:05,370
that I'm an idiot and that the data is out

613
00:34:05,370 --> 00:34:06,970
there and I just I'm not looking at the data

614
00:34:06,970 --> 00:34:09,670
correctly. Oh, OK. That's what I've been told. I'm like,

615
00:34:09,670 --> 00:34:11,570
I don't believe this is how it happened. And I'm

616
00:34:11,570 --> 00:34:13,780
like. You don't see the data? It shows it right

617
00:34:13,780 --> 00:34:18,470
here. It was only 14,000 feet. The ADS-B, man. Yeah,

618
00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:20,940
we got the data. We got the data. Yeah. And

619
00:34:20,940 --> 00:34:23,460
the Captain Steve interview, the guy's like, as soon as

620
00:34:23,460 --> 00:34:26,410
we landed, I accessed the flight data, and I saw

621
00:34:26,410 --> 00:34:29,420
that we fell almost 20,000 feet. And he's like, I

622
00:34:29,420 --> 00:34:32,100
thought it was 1,000. He's in the plane. He thinks

623
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:34,710
it was 1,000 feet that they went down. So there's

624
00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:38,850
all kind of conflicting stories. But this last part concerns

625
00:34:38,850 --> 00:34:42,520
the rudder, which is a visible thing you can see.

626
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,140
You're like, okay, the plane's missing a rudder. So something

627
00:34:45,140 --> 00:34:48,930
happened up in the sky where this rudder Pops off,

628
00:34:48,930 --> 00:34:51,870
which I think this plane had problems with when there

629
00:34:51,870 --> 00:34:54,920
are crashing. Was it Pennsylvania where they thought they were?

630
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:58,710
turning right, but it was making it go right even

631
00:34:58,710 --> 00:35:00,560
more or something. I don't know about that. This happened

632
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,750
in the late 90s, I think. I'm surprised. You mean

633
00:35:02,750 --> 00:35:05,710
Denzel Washington where he flew it upside down? No, that

634
00:35:05,710 --> 00:35:09,050
was a movie. Oh, I'm sorry. That was real. It

635
00:35:09,050 --> 00:35:11,980
seemed real to me. All right, let's do number three,

636
00:35:11,980 --> 00:35:14,100
the rudder. We do know there was damage on the

637
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:16,700
rudder, right, from whatever the speeds actually will turn out.

638
00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:19,710
to be, and portions of it apparently tore away during

639
00:35:19,710 --> 00:35:21,800
flight. Now, obviously, with serious damage to the rudder, a

640
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,150
plane's going to crash. So when you just look at

641
00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:26,840
what we know here, how fortunate do you think it

642
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,080
is that this plane was actually even able to safely

643
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,490
land? Yeah. Well, when I saw the images of the

644
00:35:33,490 --> 00:35:37,180
aircraft on the ground with the rudder section torn out,

645
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:41,740
I immediately had a cold chill because the amount of

646
00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:46,300
damage that that would cause hydraulic systems, electrical systems, especially

647
00:35:46,300 --> 00:35:51,180
hydraulics. Once you start ripping apart electronics, you start to

648
00:35:51,180 --> 00:35:57,030
bleed hydraulic fuel, excuse me, I'll get my words right

649
00:35:57,030 --> 00:36:00,600
here, and that would have affected other systems in the

650
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,040
airplane The saving grace on this one is at the

651
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,790
vertical fin. So you'll see the vertical fin of the

652
00:36:05,790 --> 00:36:08,380
aircraft, and then the rudder is at the rear portion,

653
00:36:08,380 --> 00:36:11,380
the rear portion of that. That rudder was torn away.

654
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,260
The vertical fin was what saved the day because that

655
00:36:14,260 --> 00:36:17,790
gave the aircraft directional stability, and I do not know

656
00:36:17,790 --> 00:36:21,050
how much longer they could have flown it after they

657
00:36:21,050 --> 00:36:24,420
landed it. because of the loss of hydraulic fluid due

658
00:36:24,420 --> 00:36:26,780
to the rudder being removed from the aircraft. So this

659
00:36:26,780 --> 00:36:30,520
is a very incredible story about the MAX 8. We've

660
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,800
seen the MAX 8 in the news before. I've been

661
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,850
certainly involved with that. And to see this aircraft land

662
00:36:35,850 --> 00:36:39,890
safely after going, I think it went supersonic momentarily. I

663
00:36:39,890 --> 00:36:43,920
think that Max 8 is fully redeemed. Oh, yeah. Okay.

664
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,130
Oh, that's fully redeemed. Oh, the Max 8 is fully

665
00:36:47,130 --> 00:36:50,760
redeemed. Success. Oh, this plane is not only safe, it's

666
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,770
super duper safe. That's right. So I just did a

667
00:36:53,770 --> 00:36:57,330
book of knowledge search, and it was U.S. Air Flight

668
00:36:57,330 --> 00:37:01,990
427, September 8, 1994. It had a rudder hardover, and

669
00:37:01,990 --> 00:37:04,290
I think you've talked about this on the show probably

670
00:37:04,290 --> 00:37:06,010
five or six years ago, but it was a Boeing

671
00:37:06,010 --> 00:37:08,780
737. I think it was when the Boeing Airbus wars

672
00:37:08,780 --> 00:37:12,100
were going on. What was the flight number? U.S. Air

673
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:17,630
Flight 427, and they called it a rudder hardover where

674
00:37:17,630 --> 00:37:19,760
I guess they think – or they're seeing – The

675
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,030
rudder go one way, and they're trying to correct it,

676
00:37:22,030 --> 00:37:25,210
but it's actually going the opposite way, so they're making

677
00:37:25,210 --> 00:37:27,780
it worse. And then by the time they realize that,

678
00:37:27,780 --> 00:37:31,290
it was too late, and they killed 132 people. Well,

679
00:37:31,290 --> 00:37:36,370
whatever this was, and we should find out. I mean,

680
00:37:36,370 --> 00:37:41,320
they just need to release the data. And even my

681
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,280
Israeli friends, you know, the ones who pay me $7,000

682
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:49,790
to shill for Israel? Oh, yeah. They're so convinced because

683
00:37:49,790 --> 00:37:53,420
the way – Netanyahu came out, you know, another 9-11,

684
00:37:53,420 --> 00:37:58,000
9-11 style attack, 9-11, 9-11, you know, terrorists. There's boogeyman

685
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,820
everywhere. And by the way, you know, there's boogeyman everywhere.

686
00:38:01,820 --> 00:38:05,980
Absolutely. But now we have more proof. This is the

687
00:38:05,980 --> 00:38:09,110
first time that we are able to report the name

688
00:38:09,110 --> 00:38:14,220
of the suspected attacker of that flagpole. Dubai flight. According

689
00:38:14,220 --> 00:38:16,640
to one of the sources we spoke to, his name

690
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,020
is Hamam al-Hamami. He was born in the United Arab

691
00:38:20,020 --> 00:38:24,020
Emirates to an Omani father and a Syrian mother. We

692
00:38:24,020 --> 00:38:28,780
found a LinkedIn page that has since been taken down.

693
00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:31,620
The same LinkedIn where John C. Dvorak posed as a

694
00:38:31,620 --> 00:38:34,800
woman. With that name. name, which one of those sources

695
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,300
confirmed as being the same co-pilot of that Fly Dubai

696
00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:43,640
flight. This LinkedIn page shows him having worked for Oman

697
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,570
Air for seven years until February of 2025 before joining

698
00:38:48,570 --> 00:38:53,190
Morocco's flagship airline. I also spoke to a source who

699
00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:56,180
confirmed that the co-pilot of this Dubai flight had indeed

700
00:38:56,180 --> 00:39:00,370
worked for that very same Moroccan national airline. But what's

701
00:39:00,370 --> 00:39:03,760
most interesting is what is on that LinkedIn profile. So

702
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,580
basically they went to the Wayback Machine. There is a

703
00:39:06,580 --> 00:39:10,700
video that was posted from the cockpit of an airplane

704
00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:15,280
at Dubai airport that shows El Al Plains, Israel's flagship

705
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:20,660
carrier. That video ends with a photo of Ayman al-Zawahiri,

706
00:39:20,660 --> 00:39:25,350
the al-Qaeda leader who took over after Osama bin Laden's

707
00:39:25,350 --> 00:39:28,020
death. Because that's what you do as an airline pilot.

708
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,260
You want to post pictures and videos of El Al

709
00:39:31,260 --> 00:39:34,600
and then a terrorist. This will get me a promotion.

710
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,260
This will get me somewhere. Another man. is also shown

711
00:39:38,260 --> 00:39:41,420
at the end of that video. That man was responsible

712
00:39:41,420 --> 00:39:47,000
for a 2009 suicide bombing in Afghanistan. Yeah, all right.

713
00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:50,020
But there's more from CNN, because CNN's got it, man.

714
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,710
Now, that video was actually posted about nine hours after

715
00:39:53,710 --> 00:39:59,120
Hamami allegedly tried to hijack that Fly Dubai flight. Hold

716
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,540
on a second. Wait a minute. So that was posted.

717
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,780
It was posted after. Afterwards. I thought this guy was

718
00:40:04,780 --> 00:40:06,940
taken into custody. So who's posting this? I don't know.

719
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,560
Not clear how that video got off. Yeah, not clear.

720
00:40:09,580 --> 00:40:12,820
Oh, not clear. Okay. Well, you just completely associated the

721
00:40:12,820 --> 00:40:14,950
video with him, but now it's not clear. Whether it

722
00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:18,640
was pre-scheduled, whether he had. Pre-scheduled. Ah, yes. I know

723
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,450
what I'm doing. Ah, let me pre-schedule this. This is

724
00:40:21,450 --> 00:40:22,730
my suicide note. I'm going to put it up. up

725
00:40:22,730 --> 00:40:27,720
here. Crappy suicide note, bro. Somebody else posted. We've also

726
00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:33,100
analyzed a deleted Twitter account that shows Hamami railing against

727
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:38,020
mixed-gender workplaces and expressing other misogynistic... Oh, it wasn't that

728
00:40:38,020 --> 00:40:43,900
stupid. Not that bad. And some deeply religious views as

729
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:46,970
well like what so you take all that information you

730
00:40:46,970 --> 00:40:50,620
also what does that even mean deeply religious views as

731
00:40:50,620 --> 00:40:53,380
well why don't you tell us what that is This

732
00:40:53,380 --> 00:40:56,860
was Allahu Akbar over and over again. It's rather bothersome

733
00:40:56,860 --> 00:41:00,160
that he didn't mention it. And some deeply religious views

734
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,550
as well. So you take all that information. You also

735
00:41:03,550 --> 00:41:06,160
take the fact that we have multiple sources saying that

736
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,470
he was removed from flight training at Oman Air last

737
00:41:09,470 --> 00:41:13,500
year. Multiple sources. Wow. Unnamed. Come on, CNN. So now

738
00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:16,520
he's flying with flight. Dubai. I guess they don't check...

739
00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:20,220
the LinkedIn page. I mean, they're literally doing chat GPT

740
00:41:20,220 --> 00:41:23,270
lookups now. They are just so phoning this in. Over

741
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:27,660
concerns about his extremist views. And then somehow he gets

742
00:41:27,660 --> 00:41:31,270
hired at Fly Dubai. Now, we don't know whether Fly

743
00:41:31,270 --> 00:41:36,360
Dubai was aware of these radical views that he had,

744
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,260
whether they You had conducted a thorough background check. All

745
00:41:40,260 --> 00:41:42,990
of that is still unknown at this point. And Fly

746
00:41:42,990 --> 00:41:46,170
Dubai for now is not commenting, saying that there is

747
00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:52,450
an ongoing investigation. Yeah. Well, the public demands information. You

748
00:41:52,450 --> 00:41:56,000
have this information. There was no crash. It's been recorded.

749
00:41:56,220 --> 00:41:58,480
Give it up. Give it up already. Give it up.

750
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,040
I think there's a reason they're not because the tail

751
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,230
that's already out there is like, well, we'll just leave

752
00:42:03,230 --> 00:42:05,620
this floating around. And I think it's going to be

753
00:42:05,620 --> 00:42:08,060
a lot less. It's not going to be as fast.

754
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,520
There was probably something that happened with the rudder. Maybe

755
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,390
there was a disagreement with this guy. Who knows? Maybe

756
00:42:13,390 --> 00:42:15,340
there is a guy with blood on his shirt and

757
00:42:15,340 --> 00:42:17,400
there's a guy with blood on his head. Maybe they

758
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,610
were arguing over hummus. I mean, anything is possible. Anything

759
00:42:20,610 --> 00:42:23,470
is possible because everything I've heard is there was a

760
00:42:23,470 --> 00:42:26,430
fight. It wasn't like a fight. The guy's trying to

761
00:42:26,430 --> 00:42:28,600
stop him to crash the airplane. There was a fight

762
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,860
and a bad fight. And it was an Indian and

763
00:42:30,860 --> 00:42:33,260
an Arab, so it could have been anything. Right. I

764
00:42:33,260 --> 00:42:36,620
mean, who knows what they were fighting over. Yeah. Somebody

765
00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:39,560
did, there was a lot of fun video posted of

766
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,180
the, it's this meme video of these Two Indian guys

767
00:42:43,180 --> 00:42:45,170
cussing each other out, or they could be Pakistani, I

768
00:42:45,170 --> 00:42:48,140
don't know. But they're like, here's the flight recorder. You

769
00:42:48,140 --> 00:42:52,780
effing effer. I'm going to kill you. Which I'm like,

770
00:42:52,780 --> 00:42:57,800
yeah, that's where I think happened. Well, the parody videos

771
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,500
are... Just off the hook. Oh, yeah. That stuff is,

772
00:43:02,500 --> 00:43:05,500
I mean, my favorite has got to be Friends, Comrades.

773
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,370
Have you seen those? Oh, yes, yes, yes. In the

774
00:43:09,370 --> 00:43:13,960
style of Friends with Che Guevara and Stalin and Mao

775
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,260
and Pinochet. This stuff has gotten good. There was an

776
00:43:17,260 --> 00:43:20,280
animated group who, like, the morning of this thing happening,

777
00:43:20,420 --> 00:43:22,570
I guess these guys are somewhere where they get up

778
00:43:22,570 --> 00:43:27,300
before us. They already had a Japanese anime style show.

779
00:43:27,540 --> 00:43:29,800
of this thing happening and the uh but they're all

780
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,250
you know they're kind of they're all white people like

781
00:43:32,250 --> 00:43:34,600
whitish with big eyes and so the co-pilot pulls out

782
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,270
his knife and just starts hacking the guy going oh

783
00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:40,740
they're like people are running in and grabbing the guy

784
00:43:40,740 --> 00:43:43,460
and it's all you know they're cutting to news reports

785
00:43:43,460 --> 00:43:47,950
and the plane's safely on the ground you know you're

786
00:43:47,950 --> 00:43:52,500
a pilot Is it possible that the way they're explaining

787
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:55,830
this story, that it dropped like this, whether the engines

788
00:43:55,830 --> 00:43:58,020
were cut off or not, is it possible to pull

789
00:43:58,020 --> 00:44:00,880
yourself out of a dive like that at that point?

790
00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:04,500
A speed and altitude? Well, the question is like that.

791
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,850
I mean, what is that? I still don't know what

792
00:44:07,850 --> 00:44:11,780
the dive was. We do not have accurate data. Well,

793
00:44:11,780 --> 00:44:14,160
based on what they're saying on these images, they're showing

794
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,050
images of this flight path, which are from websites that

795
00:44:17,050 --> 00:44:20,860
supposedly track these planes. And, yeah, I would say it

796
00:44:20,860 --> 00:44:24,200
should be possible, but I can't believe you even got

797
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,210
into that amount of speed in the dive. You know,

798
00:44:27,210 --> 00:44:29,880
right. And, you know, just pull as the president said,

799
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,860
pulling up on the stick, pulling back on the controls.

800
00:44:33,940 --> 00:44:37,000
Yeah. There would be a high likelihood or a possibility

801
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,000
that you'd rip the ailerons off. I mean, you'd have

802
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,630
to go real easy, and you would have to retard

803
00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:45,850
the engines. I love saying retard the engines. It's my

804
00:44:45,850 --> 00:44:48,760
favorite. But you could – a plumber, plumber strength would

805
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,840
be able to do it. Only if he watched air

806
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:57,040
crash investigations. Exactly. He would need the knowledge. Stabilizers on.

807
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,900
I'm happy everybody's safe. Whatever happened up there.

808
00:45:00,020 --> 00:45:03,370
there that's the good news and uh we'll have to

809
00:45:03,370 --> 00:45:06,440
see but i am anxiously i've just checked out my

810
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,910
favorite uh pilot forums they they you know there's no

811
00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:12,460
data so most of the smart guys are going like

812
00:45:12,460 --> 00:45:15,290
you're just blowing in the wind you know we don't

813
00:45:15,290 --> 00:45:18,200
know we don't know anything when we get the data

814
00:45:18,350 --> 00:45:20,640
Which is why I joined Pilots for 9-11 Truth. I

815
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,820
saw the data. I'm like, this is bogus. That was

816
00:45:22,820 --> 00:45:25,980
my proof. I'm like, no, the data you actually gave

817
00:45:25,980 --> 00:45:29,120
us, whether it's true or not, is not possible. My

818
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:34,370
favorite is Hani Hanjur's corkscrew into the Pentagon. Beautiful. The

819
00:45:34,370 --> 00:45:36,070
guy who can even fly a Cessna. That's the best

820
00:45:36,070 --> 00:45:38,740
one. And the thing flew over the Pentagon at about

821
00:45:38,740 --> 00:45:41,500
170 feet, according to their own data. So I don't

822
00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:43,600
know what it was, but it doesn't seem like it

823
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:49,040
was a plane. Now, this other story popped up. Which

824
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,500
I'm still looking for October surprises. We need the elites

825
00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:55,350
of the world who – and by the way, that's

826
00:45:55,350 --> 00:45:58,500
some of the trolls in our very own troll room

827
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:01,540
who hate Donald Trump and do not want him to

828
00:46:01,540 --> 00:46:06,570
have any type of victory, the Republicans, anything – They'll

829
00:46:06,570 --> 00:46:10,900
do anything. There's a lot more riding on who runs

830
00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:13,900
Congress than a couple of lives, so they don't care.

831
00:46:14,780 --> 00:46:19,300
So an October surprise, it's got to be AI-related. I

832
00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:22,440
don't think the terror thing that works great for Netanyahu,

833
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,410
his election is on the 27th. He's going to milk

834
00:46:25,410 --> 00:46:27,520
that for all it's worth, and I can't blame him.

835
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,340
That's what you do. I mean, if I was on

836
00:46:30,340 --> 00:46:33,300
that plane, I'd be milking it. I'd be on CNN.

837
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,190
I'd be raking in the dough. I watched the documentary

838
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:40,260
on his supposed corruption – What are they're saying is

839
00:46:40,260 --> 00:46:44,860
corruption. And it was like getting cigars and champagne delivered

840
00:46:44,860 --> 00:46:47,580
to – I'm like, that's it? That's – Trump? About

841
00:46:47,580 --> 00:46:50,800
Trump? No, no, no. Netanyahu. They said he was receiving

842
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,760
bribes. I know. I'm like, okay, let's – this is

843
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,540
going to be juicy. And it's like – It's not

844
00:46:54,540 --> 00:46:56,950
all that great. He got cigars and he got champagne

845
00:46:56,950 --> 00:47:01,030
and his wife may have gotten some jewelry, which, okay

846
00:47:01,030 --> 00:47:04,000
– There's nothing about it. Well, he wasn't killing –

847
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,820
it didn't seem like – They had evidence of him

848
00:47:05,820 --> 00:47:09,100
killing people or October 7th stand down, which that's what

849
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:10,640
I was looking for. I'm like, let's see the evidence.

850
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,450
I want to see the evidence. I need your Venmo

851
00:47:13,450 --> 00:47:18,110
for Hasbro. They want to send you $7,000. I said

852
00:47:18,110 --> 00:47:21,820
something nice. I'm just like, how is this the level

853
00:47:21,820 --> 00:47:25,850
of we have a special report about Netanyahu? Yeah. I

854
00:47:25,850 --> 00:47:27,350
don't know. I think he's a good guy, by the

855
00:47:27,350 --> 00:47:30,510
way. Didn't Tucker? Tucker was touting that. Is that his

856
00:47:30,510 --> 00:47:33,670
documentary? Tucker replayed – he replayed someone else's documentary. That

857
00:47:33,670 --> 00:47:35,220
was a year old, but he kind of brought it

858
00:47:35,220 --> 00:47:38,850
out. He remarketed it essentially for his audience, his Tucker

859
00:47:38,850 --> 00:47:43,350
audience. He seems like he's disappeared. Well, no, not on

860
00:47:43,350 --> 00:47:49,000
my feed. He's everywhere. He's – He was talking about

861
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:54,380
how math is... Math was invented by the Jews to

862
00:47:54,380 --> 00:47:57,440
imprison people. I'm like, really? Okay. I don't like math

863
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,890
either, but I'm not going to go that far. All

864
00:47:59,890 --> 00:48:03,700
right. Here is the latest possible October surprise. A deadly

865
00:48:03,700 --> 00:48:07,000
case of the plague in Russia's southern Siberian region of

866
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,660
Irkutsk has put nearly 200 people under quarantine. The regime-independent

867
00:48:11,660 --> 00:48:15,300
Moscow time... Times has reported. A lab worker contracted the

868
00:48:15,300 --> 00:48:18,310
disease after she reportedly broke a test tube containing live

869
00:48:18,310 --> 00:48:22,300
plague bacteria. According to local outlets, she was collecting samples

870
00:48:22,300 --> 00:48:25,710
for testing when the incident, believed to be an accident,

871
00:48:25,710 --> 00:48:29,430
occurred. Suffering from symptoms of acute pneumonia, she was put

872
00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:32,450
on a ventilator on Tuesday, but succumbed to the disease

873
00:48:32,450 --> 00:48:35,680
on Thursday. An entire hospital with people who could have

874
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,630
come in contact with the infected person has been placed

875
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:42,550
under isolation. According to local authorities, there have been no

876
00:48:42,550 --> 00:48:45,660
outbreaks of the plague so far. Ah, this is good.

877
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,140
It's the plague, although it's not exactly... It's exactly the

878
00:48:48,140 --> 00:48:53,440
plague. It's pneumonic plague. It's a plague-like plague. But it

879
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,320
sounds good. Oh, yeah. The plague. The plague. And it

880
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,680
was a lady who dropped a test tube in the

881
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,030
lab and she died. A woman died of the plague

882
00:49:02,030 --> 00:49:05,140
recently and now nearly 200 people are under close medical

883
00:49:05,140 --> 00:49:07,860
supervision in Russia. Here's what you need to know. All

884
00:49:07,860 --> 00:49:10,160
right. Today is October 3rd, 2026. My name is Dr.

885
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,140
Rubin. And recently a woman in her 20s was a

886
00:49:13,140 --> 00:49:17,570
lab worker at an anti-plague industry. Institute in Irkutsk, Russia,

887
00:49:17,570 --> 00:49:20,970
died of mnemonic plague. This is a type of disease

888
00:49:20,970 --> 00:49:25,090
that spreads by respiratory droplets. It can spread from person

889
00:49:25,090 --> 00:49:28,130
to person and has an incubation period of about one

890
00:49:28,130 --> 00:49:30,820
to seven days, meaning you get infected but don't show

891
00:49:30,820 --> 00:49:33,960
symptoms for up to a week. However, it's caused by

892
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:39,120
a bacteria called Yersinia pestis, which is treatable with antibiotics.

893
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,570
This is not a viral infection with RSV, influenza or

894
00:49:43,570 --> 00:49:47,780
COVID-19. And so this is something that we have to

895
00:49:47,780 --> 00:49:52,260
take seriously. But. But it is treatable, and there's no

896
00:49:52,260 --> 00:49:55,600
sign of a widespread outbreak that's going from country to

897
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,810
country. But if I hear any other information, I will

898
00:49:57,810 --> 00:50:00,110
let you know in future posts. So make sure you're

899
00:50:00,110 --> 00:50:03,110
following to stay informed. Not something that we have to

900
00:50:03,110 --> 00:50:05,270
panic at this time, but we'll keep an eye on

901
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:08,040
it. Smash that like button. Get ready to panic, but

902
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,320
not yet. I had both of those labeled under Plandemic

903
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,300
2 Russian Boogaloo. Oh, okay. One was a guy being

904
00:50:15,300 --> 00:50:19,950
interviewed by the Times, and then the second one was

905
00:50:19,950 --> 00:50:23,730
a Dr. Holscher, who's mainly – he's been studying COVID

906
00:50:23,730 --> 00:50:27,640
and the fallout of COVID and alternative treatments for that.

907
00:50:27,700 --> 00:50:30,890
And he's like, don't fear. We got antibiotics. Yeah. And

908
00:50:30,890 --> 00:50:33,020
antibiotics will treat this. All you have to do is

909
00:50:33,020 --> 00:50:36,960
treat it with antibiotics. It's local, basic antibiotics. But this

910
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,920
is what we saw with COVID. It could be treated

911
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,960
with ivermectin and some antibiotics and stuff. And they're like,

912
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,820
no, there's no treatment for anything. So when they start

913
00:50:44,820 --> 00:50:47,580
saying there's no treatment... Your No Agenda show has already

914
00:50:47,580 --> 00:50:50,020
told you there is a treatment. Yeah. Do you want

915
00:50:50,020 --> 00:50:52,370
to play that from the – Why don't we play

916
00:50:52,370 --> 00:50:54,760
the plague treatments one because he might even list the

917
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,870
antibiotic in there. Everybody's apparently freaking out about this mnemonic

918
00:50:59,870 --> 00:51:05,360
plague laboratory acquired infection in Russia. You'll see the article

919
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:10,000
up there from Moscow Times, nearly 200 people under observation.

920
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:15,560
after a Siberian lab worker dies from plague. But what

921
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,010
we have to remember is actually, you should not be

922
00:51:19,010 --> 00:51:23,160
panicking about this. All right. First of all, this is

923
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:28,660
not the 1300s when the Black Death occurred. You know,

924
00:51:28,660 --> 00:51:33,860
we now have... effective treatments. Antibiotics literally wipe out the

925
00:51:33,860 --> 00:51:39,800
plague bacteria. Yersinia pestis. There's also been at least five

926
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:46,020
documented pneumonic plague outbreaks and clusters since 2011. And guess

927
00:51:46,020 --> 00:51:50,400
what? None of them became a pandemic. None. They were

928
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,040
all contained. So I sent my robot out because I

929
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,300
got this from... I think it was the, let me

930
00:51:56,300 --> 00:52:00,270
see, was it Daily Mail? I'm like, suspicious robot, go

931
00:52:00,270 --> 00:52:04,980
find something. I'm like, surely NPR has something on this.

932
00:52:04,980 --> 00:52:10,230
And NPR does have, they just put out a whole

933
00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:15,510
show about very, very deadly virus. which has just scared

934
00:52:15,510 --> 00:52:18,430
me to my wits end. And I'd like to share

935
00:52:18,430 --> 00:52:22,780
some of that from your national treasure. Remember the schoolyard

936
00:52:22,780 --> 00:52:26,530
rhyme, Miss Lucy had a baby? Some people jump rope

937
00:52:26,530 --> 00:52:29,890
to it. Some people learned a hand clapping game. And

938
00:52:29,890 --> 00:52:33,060
there was always this one line. Yeah. Measles said the

939
00:52:33,060 --> 00:52:36,780
doctor, mom said the nurse, nothing said the lady with

940
00:52:36,780 --> 00:52:41,560
the alligator purse. The funny thing is that when I

941
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,840
was a kid, measles and mumps weren't super common. Researchers

942
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,510
developed a combined... How old are you, 12? ...vaccine for

943
00:52:48,510 --> 00:52:51,590
measles, mumps, and rubella in the 70s. It was so

944
00:52:51,590 --> 00:52:55,370
effective that measles was declared eliminated in the States in

945
00:52:55,370 --> 00:52:59,990
2000. So most people in the U.S., including me, haven't

946
00:52:59,990 --> 00:53:06,500
ever experienced... But measles is making a comeback. Come back.

947
00:53:06,580 --> 00:53:09,480
Right. Don't call it a comeback. Now, there are ongoing

948
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:14,840
outbreaks, hundreds of cases. Outbreaks. Mostly among unvaccinated people. Vaccinated.

949
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,380
Vaccinated. Like South Carolina, Texas, and Utah. Red states. In

950
00:53:18,380 --> 00:53:21,840
Pennsylvania, where the outbreak is biggest, the state health department

951
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,510
has. Blue state. Reported 792 cases with four measles associated

952
00:53:26,510 --> 00:53:31,550
deaths. And that last term, measles associated deaths, has prompted

953
00:53:31,550 --> 00:53:35,630
a lot of conflict between politicians like Health Secretary Robert

954
00:53:35,630 --> 00:53:39,600
F. Kennedy Jr. Oh, yeah. Here we go. Measles is

955
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:44,140
not going to kill you. You're not quite there. I'm

956
00:53:44,140 --> 00:53:49,600
not quite there yet. You know, with COVID. Motorcycle accident

957
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,130
died with COVID. Yeah. So this is the outrage is

958
00:53:53,130 --> 00:53:57,810
died with measles. And Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro. We're trying

959
00:53:57,810 --> 00:54:00,950
to figure out, you know, who those guys are and

960
00:54:00,950 --> 00:54:03,630
they actually happen and we can't figure that out. I

961
00:54:03,630 --> 00:54:07,870
blame RFK and people like it who have spread misinformation

962
00:54:07,870 --> 00:54:13,510
and disinformation. But while all these politicians argue, health experts

963
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:17,060
worry that we're overlooking the real problem. I would say

964
00:54:17,060 --> 00:54:21,080
we are very much on the road towards an epidemic.

965
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,590
Yeah. This is Michael Mina. He's been studying measles for

966
00:54:24,590 --> 00:54:28,700
the last 15 years. He's an immunologist and epidemiologist, plus

967
00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:33,240
the chief medical officer at biotech companies Invivid and Truvian.

968
00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:36,290
We could certainly start to see a greater explosion of

969
00:54:36,290 --> 00:54:39,260
measles cases as we move into the future. I think

970
00:54:39,260 --> 00:54:41,980
it's very likely that the United States will probably lose

971
00:54:41,980 --> 00:54:45,080
its elimination status. status towards the end of this year?

972
00:54:46,260 --> 00:54:49,970
So today on the show, the measles outbreak, which deaths

973
00:54:49,970 --> 00:54:53,960
are caused by measles versus which ones are associated with

974
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,270
it. And is there any way for us to turn

975
00:54:56,270 --> 00:55:00,220
this epidemic around? I'm Regina Barber, and you're listening to

976
00:55:00,220 --> 00:55:06,300
Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR. So... Now, so she

977
00:55:06,300 --> 00:55:09,450
literally brings in a... You know what the R stands

978
00:55:09,450 --> 00:55:16,430
for in NPR? Yeah. retards laughing Yes. So they so

979
00:55:16,430 --> 00:55:19,510
they bring in a pharma shill. I mean, what could

980
00:55:19,510 --> 00:55:23,080
it be any better than that? And Dr. Scott Gottlieb?

981
00:55:23,100 --> 00:55:26,100
No, no. The this guy who works at what is

982
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:30,680
the name of this outfit in vivid? Now, they actually

983
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:36,050
do monoclonal antibodies. And they have an investigational candidate in

984
00:55:36,050 --> 00:55:41,550
development, a monoclonal antibody aimed at post-exposure prevention and treatment

985
00:55:41,550 --> 00:55:47,360
of measles, providing temporary passive immunity. Woo! So let's bring

986
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,360
that guy in and see what he has to say.

987
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,690
Can you explain what the measles virus does to our

988
00:55:51,690 --> 00:55:55,300
bodies? Kills you right off the bat. Boom, dead. Dead.

989
00:55:55,450 --> 00:55:57,360
Did you have the measles as a kid, Rob? You're

990
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,540
my age. No, but I have a story associated with

991
00:56:00,540 --> 00:56:03,940
that. I did get the MMR because my parents were

992
00:56:03,940 --> 00:56:07,240
firm believers in science. Oh, boy. And in 1989 or

993
00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:10,540
90, I was a freshman or sophomore in high school,

994
00:56:10,540 --> 00:56:15,880
there was a mumps epidemic all through... sulfur high in

995
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,680
southwestern i remember having the mumps i remember that yeah

996
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,210
but you know mmr it's measles mumps rubella yeah and

997
00:56:22,210 --> 00:56:24,660
so you're not supposed to get it and i asked

998
00:56:24,660 --> 00:56:26,390
my mom i said why did i get the mumps

999
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:28,900
didn't you vaccinate me for the mumps and she's like

1000
00:56:28,900 --> 00:56:30,760
we did you just didn't get a bad case i'm

1001
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,210
like i had to sit in bed for two weeks

1002
00:56:32,210 --> 00:56:33,980
what do you mean i didn't get a bad case

1003
00:56:33,980 --> 00:56:36,400
which i didn't complain about you did You didn't die.

1004
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:37,890
You didn't have to go to the hospital. It was

1005
00:56:37,890 --> 00:56:39,600
not severe. I did not die. You weren't on a

1006
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,770
ventilator. Can you explain what the measles were? Well, they

1007
00:56:42,770 --> 00:56:44,860
were worried about it dropping. That was what they were.

1008
00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:47,620
So you have to sit. On boys, it drops. You

1009
00:56:47,620 --> 00:56:49,460
can become sterile, all this other stuff, which now I'm

1010
00:56:49,460 --> 00:56:52,300
like, is that even true? Clearly, in your case, with

1011
00:56:52,300 --> 00:56:55,990
your 18 children, no damage there. Can you explain what

1012
00:56:55,990 --> 00:56:59,590
the measles virus does to our bodies? Yeah, measles is

1013
00:56:59,590 --> 00:57:02,040
much more than just a fever and a rash. Measles

1014
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,700
causes a tremendous amount of damage to your immune system.

1015
00:57:06,020 --> 00:57:08,390
Almost killed a Brady Bunch. All sorts of organs that

1016
00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:12,160
are involved in your immune response. are really under attack.

1017
00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:15,620
Now, it is possible, I guess, but no one ever

1018
00:57:15,620 --> 00:57:19,780
asked this question. It's possible that because we jacked all

1019
00:57:19,780 --> 00:57:22,620
our kids up with MMR – That, you know, now

1020
00:57:22,620 --> 00:57:26,010
getting the measles would hit you or maybe because we

1021
00:57:26,010 --> 00:57:29,070
our immune systems are so weakened in general by the

1022
00:57:29,070 --> 00:57:33,890
amount of vaccinations, poor food, processed food. It's possible that

1023
00:57:33,890 --> 00:57:37,100
measles could now kill you. But you're right. It didn't

1024
00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:40,630
kill the Brady Bunch, including Alice. Right. And here's a

1025
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:43,030
fun fact. If you look on the insert for the

1026
00:57:43,030 --> 00:57:46,510
measles, mom's rubella shot, it literally says as a side

1027
00:57:46,510 --> 00:57:51,600
effect, measles like rash or rubella, which is German measles.

1028
00:57:51,940 --> 00:57:54,090
You can get either one and it admits it right

1029
00:57:54,090 --> 00:57:56,770
there in the insert that you can get. So side

1030
00:57:56,770 --> 00:57:59,630
effects. Yeah, there you go. All right. Yeah. In fact,

1031
00:57:59,630 --> 00:58:01,740
you were one of the researchers who discovered something called

1032
00:58:01,740 --> 00:58:06,330
immune amnesia caused by measles. What is that? Yeah, immunological

1033
00:58:06,330 --> 00:58:11,530
amnesia associated with measles is... It's great. Immunological amnesia. So

1034
00:58:11,530 --> 00:58:13,980
you were immune, but you forgot. You forgot you were

1035
00:58:13,980 --> 00:58:16,770
immune. Exactly. Huh? What? What I think of as one

1036
00:58:16,770 --> 00:58:21,470
of the... Most substantial or consequential effects of getting a

1037
00:58:21,470 --> 00:58:25,800
measles infection, an individual gets infected with the measles virus.

1038
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,740
Lifetime immunity. The immune cells in the lungs pull that

1039
00:58:28,740 --> 00:58:32,110
measles virus in through the tissue, through the lungs, and

1040
00:58:32,110 --> 00:58:34,950
bring it. into what we call the lymphoid tissue. This

1041
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:37,830
is the system in our body where the immune cells

1042
00:58:37,830 --> 00:58:40,180
live and where they grow and where they're maintained and

1043
00:58:40,180 --> 00:58:44,090
develop immune memory and protection. Well, the measles virus has

1044
00:58:44,090 --> 00:58:47,680
this nasty trick. It gets presented to our memory cells.

1045
00:58:48,420 --> 00:58:51,140
And instead of getting gobbled up by them or destroyed

1046
00:58:51,140 --> 00:58:54,740
by them, it actually starts attacking them. And it starts...

1047
00:58:55,390 --> 00:58:58,980
eating away at our immune memory cells. Just like somebody

1048
00:58:58,980 --> 00:59:01,650
with amnesia maybe has to go through a process of

1049
00:59:01,650 --> 00:59:06,540
relearning whatever it might be that they have forgotten. Immunological

1050
00:59:06,540 --> 00:59:09,060
amnesia is where a kid or an individual might have

1051
00:59:09,060 --> 00:59:11,420
spent the last 10 years of their life going through

1052
00:59:11,420 --> 00:59:14,920
the sicknesses of childhood to build up a protective immune

1053
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,920
system so they can live pretty comfortably for the rest

1054
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,860
of their life. But now you've just erased a lot

1055
00:59:20,860 --> 00:59:23,850
of that. And what we saw was that a simple

1056
00:59:23,850 --> 00:59:26,990
measles infection that might look simple on the surface can

1057
00:59:26,990 --> 00:59:31,220
actually be deleting up to 70% of your hard drive.

1058
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,210
of your entire immunological memory pool, making them at very

1059
00:59:35,210 --> 00:59:37,910
high risk for other infectious diseases to be deleted. For

1060
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:42,430
years. This is, this is interestingly new. He's killed brain

1061
00:59:42,430 --> 00:59:45,590
cells in my head. Yeah. So I, and I was

1062
00:59:45,590 --> 00:59:48,320
like, what is the point of this, um, of this

1063
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,330
interview and this whole piece? And I think it's really

1064
00:59:51,330 --> 00:59:55,090
to show that, well, You can die with measles and

1065
00:59:55,090 --> 00:59:57,980
it really wasn't the measles, but it's because this other

1066
00:59:57,980 --> 00:59:59,960
stuff that happened to you and he's.

1067
01:00:00,060 --> 01:00:03,280
define that. Yeah, so there's a lot of different jargon

1068
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,520
that's been thrown around about this recent outbreak. Last month,

1069
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,620
for instance, an infant in Lancaster County was declared by

1070
01:00:10,620 --> 01:00:14,410
the Pennsylvania Department of Health to be a measles-associated death,

1071
01:00:14,410 --> 01:00:17,340
but the local coroner disagreed and said that the baby

1072
01:00:17,340 --> 01:00:20,300
died from a ruptured spleen. So let's talk about this

1073
01:00:20,300 --> 01:00:25,680
specific term. Like, what's a measles-associated death? Yeah, it's a

1074
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,820
great question, and I hope we come back to that.

1075
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:32,630
It's not a great question, lady. A measles-associated death. It's

1076
01:00:32,630 --> 01:00:39,080
not with. It's measles-associated. Okay. Yeah. A MAD, a measles-associated

1077
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,660
death. Nice. Yeah. It's a great question, and I hope

1078
01:00:42,660 --> 01:00:44,680
we come back to that particular case a little bit

1079
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:49,320
because it's a really rare situation. But a measles-associated death

1080
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,840
is usually – it's sort of, I would say, a

1081
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:56,080
looser term than saying measles caused this death. It is

1082
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,350
that – Measles had an association with the death. The

1083
01:00:59,350 --> 01:01:01,140
way that I like to think about it is if

1084
01:01:01,140 --> 01:01:03,980
you take a step back and say, would this death

1085
01:01:03,980 --> 01:01:09,080
have occurred had the individual not gotten measles? So this

1086
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,150
is where a lot of the disagreement comes from. Like,

1087
01:01:12,150 --> 01:01:15,040
how do we use this term? Right. As much as

1088
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,940
possible. We use it a lot. Why is this case

1089
01:01:18,940 --> 01:01:23,140
so interesting? Well, the splenic rupture case, I think, is

1090
01:01:23,140 --> 01:01:27,880
a really interesting case because it just might be what

1091
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,990
I would consider the one in a million or the

1092
01:01:30,990 --> 01:01:35,160
one in 10,000 time when somebody maybe truly did. die

1093
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:39,000
with measles, but not because of measles. A lot of

1094
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,240
people would say, well, that sounds nuts. Splenic rupture, the

1095
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,460
child had measles. Of course, it was because of measles.

1096
01:01:44,660 --> 01:01:46,410
But we can look at the literature, and we can

1097
01:01:46,410 --> 01:01:49,500
look at the whole history of measles in the pre-vaccine

1098
01:01:49,500 --> 01:01:52,700
era, and all of the data we've had of measles,

1099
01:01:53,030 --> 01:01:57,330
measles cases, including many pregnancies with measles in the past

1100
01:01:57,330 --> 01:02:01,280
when measles was common. Okay. Wait, wait. I'm done. People

1101
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:02,770
used to die of measles all the time when it

1102
01:02:02,770 --> 01:02:09,000
was common? Apparently. In the 1600s, maybe. No, this is...

1103
01:02:09,199 --> 01:02:11,940
I never got measles, but I did get chicken pox

1104
01:02:11,940 --> 01:02:14,720
when I was a kid. Yeah, I got those too.

1105
01:02:15,140 --> 01:02:17,490
My sister got it first and then my brother and

1106
01:02:17,490 --> 01:02:19,860
then – My mom said I went to my brother

1107
01:02:19,860 --> 01:02:21,900
was like rubbing myself on my brother to try and

1108
01:02:21,900 --> 01:02:23,690
get chicken pox because I was mad. They got to

1109
01:02:23,690 --> 01:02:26,340
stay home for three weeks from school. Give me that.

1110
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,480
Give me that chicken pox, bro. Give it to me.

1111
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,250
Yeah, I got the worst case. I still have little

1112
01:02:31,250 --> 01:02:33,120
chicken pox scars on my back. I had them on

1113
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,540
the soles of my feet. I had it. My mom.

1114
01:02:35,740 --> 01:02:38,920
It's everywhere. But you know what? Nothing happened to me.

1115
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,100
I have now lifelong immunity from chickenpox. You did wind

1116
01:02:42,100 --> 01:02:45,300
up working for Alex Jones. I mean, that's questionable if

1117
01:02:45,300 --> 01:02:48,220
nothing happened to you. That's true. I do have a

1118
01:02:48,220 --> 01:02:54,010
proclivity to not believing what the media says. Hmm. You're

1119
01:02:54,010 --> 01:03:00,160
immune from media to disinformation. So I've been... Warning about

1120
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,700
this for several months, and now it seems to be

1121
01:03:03,700 --> 01:03:07,780
getting a little bit more serious. An alarming new target

1122
01:03:07,780 --> 01:03:11,550
in Kyiv for Russian drones, the city's bridges across the

1123
01:03:11,550 --> 01:03:15,860
Dnieper River. The northern bridge came under attack Saturday, two

1124
01:03:15,860 --> 01:03:19,940
days after multiple strikes on the southern bridge. They link

1125
01:03:19,940 --> 01:03:23,210
the eastern and western parts of the capital, and the

1126
01:03:23,210 --> 01:03:29,500
aerial attacks have snarled traffic causing major travel disruptions. I

1127
01:03:29,500 --> 01:03:33,200
need to look for a job on the left bank.

1128
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,860
There's no other choice and there's no way out. After

1129
01:03:35,860 --> 01:03:38,620
all, we don't have a tunnel under the Dnepro, so

1130
01:03:38,620 --> 01:03:41,940
we can't walk. This is the first time something like

1131
01:03:41,940 --> 01:03:45,040
this has happened, but it was to be expected. It's

1132
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,390
clear that cutting Kyiv off between the right and left

1133
01:03:47,390 --> 01:03:52,450
banks paralyzes the city's operations. Most residents in the city

1134
01:03:52,450 --> 01:03:55,120
live on the left bank in the east, while the

1135
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,040
right bank is home to the historic center, main business

1136
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,690
hubs, and government buildings. This is the first time in

1137
01:04:01,690 --> 01:04:04,840
the nearly five-year-old war that the bridges have been hit.

1138
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,630
Ukrainian officials say this signals a worrying new stage in

1139
01:04:08,630 --> 01:04:17,000
Moscow's strategy, which could have dire consequences. The enemy is

1140
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:23,270
laying waste to Kyiv. Infrastructure, critical infrastructure, logistics, housing and

1141
01:04:23,270 --> 01:04:28,230
social facilities. The aggressor has also set about destroying the

1142
01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:36,190
energy sector once again. Russia's defense ministry confirmed it hit

1143
01:04:36,190 --> 01:04:39,830
the northern bridge, alleging it was a legitimate target because

1144
01:04:39,830 --> 01:04:43,580
it was used to transfer military troops and equipment. Moscow

1145
01:04:43,580 --> 01:04:47,500
also warned of new massive strikes on Kiev as it

1146
01:04:47,500 --> 01:04:50,210
issued a call for diplomats and foreigners to leave the

1147
01:04:50,210 --> 01:04:53,940
city. Meanwhile, residents are bracing for more attacks on the

1148
01:04:53,940 --> 01:04:59,120
powerhouse. grid and heating supplies as colder weather approaches. That's

1149
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,820
right. The fighting season is almost over on the battlefield.

1150
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:06,730
Yeah, so it's drone attacks in the cities. You could

1151
01:05:06,730 --> 01:05:10,240
say this is a retaliation of the Russian power plants

1152
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:15,020
getting hit, the Russian warehouses, all the apartments there. And

1153
01:05:15,020 --> 01:05:17,770
so what do they expect? But it's like. So Ukraine

1154
01:05:17,770 --> 01:05:20,920
hasn't done anything. It's just this weird – let's keep

1155
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,060
score. If we're going to keep score, let's keep score

1156
01:05:23,060 --> 01:05:25,960
on both sides. And give us the full picture, which

1157
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:29,120
we don't ever get. Well, to me, I mean, the

1158
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:32,870
Ukrainians, I feel bad for them because they've just been

1159
01:05:32,870 --> 01:05:35,680
so abused by the EU and the UK in particular.

1160
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,470
The UK are the ones that are pushing this the

1161
01:05:37,470 --> 01:05:40,670
hardest. But now Germany, what they want is they want

1162
01:05:40,670 --> 01:05:44,160
war. They want people to die. In an EU country,

1163
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:49,650
they want to evoke article 5 questionable whether we're going

1164
01:05:49,650 --> 01:05:51,960
to jump in or not I hope to God we're

1165
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,240
not because they are just poking and poking and poking

1166
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,000
and now it's time to turn up the heat and

1167
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:02,390
now it's time to frighten the citizens of Germany well

1168
01:06:02,390 --> 01:06:05,520
he already has announced what he's mainly here to deliver

1169
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,280
and that is a promise of supplying at least a

1170
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:13,370
thousand jet-fueled interceptor drones very, very quickly. And that's Mertz

1171
01:06:13,370 --> 01:06:16,330
from Germany. That is something that the Ukrainians probably most

1172
01:06:16,330 --> 01:06:18,610
desperately need at the moment, to try to stop these

1173
01:06:18,610 --> 01:06:21,210
constant attacks on Kiev and other cities with the new

1174
01:06:21,210 --> 01:06:24,510
jet-powered drones that the Russians have developed. So as I

1175
01:06:24,510 --> 01:06:27,590
understand it, it's a German company called Quantum that has

1176
01:06:27,590 --> 01:06:30,520
been working with Ukrainian partners on the technology. technology, testing

1177
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,270
them here, and the Germans are going to be able

1178
01:06:32,270 --> 01:06:35,040
to mass-produce them. So that's a major piece of very

1179
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,940
concrete good news, as it were, for Ukraine. He's also

1180
01:06:37,940 --> 01:06:41,700
announcing a 1 billion euro defense aid package, 350 million

1181
01:06:41,700 --> 01:06:45,510
for the energy sector, and this statement that he made

1182
01:06:45,510 --> 01:06:48,890
saying that if Russia is not stopped, sooner or later

1183
01:06:48,890 --> 01:06:52,140
its military machine will be turned against us, us meaning

1184
01:06:52,140 --> 01:06:54,870
Germany and the rest of Western Europe. That is exactly

1185
01:06:54,870 --> 01:06:57,460
what Ukrainians have been saying for a very long time

1186
01:06:57,460 --> 01:07:00,580
and very uh it's you know encouraging to hear it

1187
01:07:00,580 --> 01:07:04,110
coming from the mouth of a german it's very encouraging

1188
01:07:04,110 --> 01:07:06,160
to hear thank you thank you well i mean the

1189
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,620
russians cut their their oil supply going to germany right

1190
01:07:09,620 --> 01:07:11,790
didn't they do that too the pipeline well no we

1191
01:07:11,790 --> 01:07:15,350
blew it up i know that is exactly what ukrainians

1192
01:07:15,350 --> 01:07:18,410
have been saying for a very long time and very

1193
01:07:18,410 --> 01:07:21,820
uh It's encouraging to hear it coming from the mouth

1194
01:07:21,820 --> 01:07:25,330
of a German chancellor, especially one who's sort of in

1195
01:07:25,330 --> 01:07:28,340
trouble at home with people like the Alternative for Germany

1196
01:07:28,340 --> 01:07:31,220
far-right party who are saying that Germany should take a

1197
01:07:31,220 --> 01:07:34,470
completely different tack and that Russia doesn't pose a threat

1198
01:07:34,470 --> 01:07:36,830
to them. I always have to – Because we buy

1199
01:07:36,830 --> 01:07:39,400
their oil. Yes. You know, that's one of the things.

1200
01:07:39,470 --> 01:07:44,140
Kill your customer. It's a new marketing plan. Yeah, no

1201
01:07:44,140 --> 01:07:46,810
kidding. I mean, one of the things I learned early

1202
01:07:46,810 --> 01:07:49,230
on, before I was even doing podcasts, I would listen

1203
01:07:49,230 --> 01:07:52,940
to InfoWars. Oh, man. And I think I was in

1204
01:07:52,940 --> 01:07:55,750
probably in London at the time. It was before we

1205
01:07:55,750 --> 01:07:59,270
started the show. And it was like a real audio

1206
01:07:59,270 --> 01:08:02,560
stream. We didn't have podcast. I don't think we have

1207
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,090
24 hour audio stream. Yeah. I don't know. I guess

1208
01:08:05,090 --> 01:08:07,180
we did have podcasts. It was just around the same

1209
01:08:07,180 --> 01:08:10,050
time. And I always heard Alex Jones say absolute power

1210
01:08:10,050 --> 01:08:15,920
corrupts. Absolutely. And I'm just like, yeah, that's what's going

1211
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,540
on. And these poor people, you know, you know, Poor

1212
01:08:18,540 --> 01:08:20,960
people of Europe. My daughter, I just talked to her

1213
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,760
with the grandbaby. We call them on Sundays, you know,

1214
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:27,370
try to help her remember what we look like. She

1215
01:08:27,370 --> 01:08:29,130
always looks at me and starts to pucker up, and

1216
01:08:29,130 --> 01:08:31,220
then Tina comes on, and she's like, oh, big smiles.

1217
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,540
I guess I don't have that right baby-cooing voice. But,

1218
01:08:35,540 --> 01:08:38,700
you know, Christina's like, uh... I walk out and said,

1219
01:08:38,700 --> 01:08:41,820
they're in one street in Rotterdam, which is a very

1220
01:08:41,820 --> 01:08:47,310
cool neighborhood. Dutch people. For now. Well, it's pretty locked

1221
01:08:47,310 --> 01:08:49,870
up, but still. So you go around the corner two

1222
01:08:49,870 --> 01:08:53,250
blocks down, all you hear is Arabic. Yeah. And, you

1223
01:08:53,250 --> 01:08:56,360
know, they scoff at women. It's just, it's a nightmare.

1224
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,390
Yeah. It's a nightmare. I'm like, you need to come

1225
01:08:59,390 --> 01:09:02,920
here. Well, what's going on in France is a prelude

1226
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,980
to what's going to happen, you know, slowly in the

1227
01:09:04,980 --> 01:09:08,870
rest of Europe. This is interesting. I'm questioning this because

1228
01:09:08,870 --> 01:09:14,090
they keep talking about, you know, outsiders coming in. I'm

1229
01:09:14,090 --> 01:09:18,900
not sure. These are your GBN clips. Yeah. Yeah, and

1230
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,940
This is something that I think should have been talked

1231
01:09:21,940 --> 01:09:25,760
about years ago. Talking about Infowars, we were talking about

1232
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:30,070
this, I think, in 2014 and 15 when Libya got

1233
01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:35,100
destroyed. Well, when Gaddafi was the one saying, listen, if

1234
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:37,950
y'all get rid of me, you're going to be flooded

1235
01:09:37,950 --> 01:09:40,870
with millions of Africans are going to come through into

1236
01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:44,350
Europe. Yes, and let's remind ourselves. I mean, that is

1237
01:09:44,350 --> 01:09:48,320
the land of unconfirmed. Yes, we came, we saw, he

1238
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:52,380
died. Did it have anything to do with your visit?

1239
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,820
I'm sure it did. Oh, we killed him. Well, I

1240
01:09:55,820 --> 01:09:58,210
do have a Hillary clip. She's identified a new enemy,

1241
01:09:58,210 --> 01:10:00,710
but we can get to that later. And don't play

1242
01:10:00,710 --> 01:10:02,840
that, man. That's an old clip. That's at least two

1243
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,840
years old. Oh, is that an old clip? It's an

1244
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,110
old clip, yeah. It looks so new. No, because it

1245
01:10:07,110 --> 01:10:10,180
said new, colon. Well, then that's the problem. I see

1246
01:10:10,180 --> 01:10:13,380
these clips, and now I ask Grock, I'm like, how

1247
01:10:13,380 --> 01:10:15,360
old is this clip? Because I had five clips that

1248
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,170
Grock was like, no, these are old. And a couple

1249
01:10:18,170 --> 01:10:20,180
of my new, I just want to make sure. So

1250
01:10:20,180 --> 01:10:25,850
a couple of fraud clips. We played that clip episode

1251
01:10:25,850 --> 01:10:34,870
1903, which was September 2025. It's 1903. No, that had

1252
01:10:34,870 --> 01:10:38,090
to just happen. No, this one. We haven't gotten to

1253
01:10:38,090 --> 01:10:41,460
the more perfect union. And that one. Yeah, that's yeah.

1254
01:10:41,460 --> 01:10:43,840
Yeah. With morning Joe. Yeah. That's a year old. It's

1255
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,580
a year old. Wow. Yeah. It's all right. It's amazing.

1256
01:10:46,580 --> 01:10:50,080
I protect my guest co-hosts. No, you're good. You're good

1257
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,600
at doing that. But, you know, towards the – John

1258
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,610
was doing that towards the end, too. He'd see this

1259
01:10:54,610 --> 01:10:56,650
as a new clip, and it was – it's these

1260
01:10:56,650 --> 01:10:59,530
accounts. And now I've recognized the accounts, and I just

1261
01:10:59,530 --> 01:11:02,610
mute them because they're like breaking news. And you're looking,

1262
01:11:02,610 --> 01:11:04,420
oh, my God. And it's three years old or two

1263
01:11:04,420 --> 01:11:06,530
years old or 12 months old. It's one of my

1264
01:11:06,530 --> 01:11:10,060
superpowers. And I think it's because I – you know

1265
01:11:10,060 --> 01:11:13,380
because i'm always hearing the audio and like and it's

1266
01:11:13,380 --> 01:11:15,970
the audio i recognize i recognize the audio yeah i

1267
01:11:15,970 --> 01:11:18,880
recognize the audio yeah all right so what what's your

1268
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,200
you got your france in flames okay yeah let's go

1269
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,620
france in flames we'll just go through it it's good

1270
01:11:23,620 --> 01:11:28,520
breaking right now breaking france is losing control of its

1271
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:35,270
own country incoming Nice. Oh! Multiple Nat Pops. Oh, I

1272
01:11:35,270 --> 01:11:39,310
left them all. If I'm not trying to be a

1273
01:11:39,310 --> 01:11:49,350
beginner, Nice. Woo! Love it. Woo! That was a Nat

1274
01:11:49,350 --> 01:11:51,500
Popgasm. Just look at what's unfolding here, shall we? Did

1275
01:11:51,500 --> 01:11:56,720
you say Nat Popgasm? Nat Popgasm. That was good. So

1276
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,380
let's just look at what's unfolding here, shall we? Schools

1277
01:11:59,380 --> 01:12:03,340
are burning, firefighters are being attacked, police officers are being

1278
01:12:03,340 --> 01:12:07,230
beaten in public, public transport's been stopped, hundreds of schools

1279
01:12:07,230 --> 01:12:10,190
closed, kids aren't at school, they're burning down their schools

1280
01:12:10,190 --> 01:12:15,690
instead. Roughly 3,000 people... arrested. 3,000, 2,000 in a single

1281
01:12:15,690 --> 01:12:18,000
day. And this isn't just some distant country on the

1282
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,610
other side of the world. Let me just remind you

1283
01:12:19,610 --> 01:12:22,270
where it is. It's our friendly cooperative neighbors across the

1284
01:12:22,270 --> 01:12:25,170
channel. France, one of the richest countries on Earth. A

1285
01:12:25,170 --> 01:12:29,340
nuclear power, a G7 economy, 20 miles from Britain. Yeah,

1286
01:12:29,340 --> 01:12:32,500
3.5 trillion euro in debt. I don't know about the

1287
01:12:32,500 --> 01:12:35,720
richest country, but yeah. Yeah. And socialists, we should add

1288
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:41,460
that. And overrun, overrun by immigrants in many parts. What

1289
01:12:41,460 --> 01:12:44,750
was interesting about the Nat Pop, every time they cut

1290
01:12:44,750 --> 01:12:47,100
to a different image, it was something on fire. Whether

1291
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:49,630
it was a barricade or a building or a truck,

1292
01:12:49,630 --> 01:12:52,340
something on fire. Did you see the image of the

1293
01:12:52,340 --> 01:12:55,420
firefighter on fire with the kids filming it? And the

1294
01:12:55,420 --> 01:12:58,160
kids are all filming it like, ooh, like it's a

1295
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,800
world star hip-hop moment. We live in a fallen world,

1296
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,380
my brother. live in a fallen world. Written, I would

1297
01:13:05,380 --> 01:13:08,400
say, don't you dare look away tonight because France has

1298
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,160
spent decades conducting one of the biggest experiments. Now, this,

1299
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:14,250
of course, is GBN. So they're the ones that are

1300
01:13:14,250 --> 01:13:16,510
saying, don't look away. It's coming here. It's coming here

1301
01:13:16,510 --> 01:13:19,180
next. France has spent decades conducting one of the biggest

1302
01:13:19,180 --> 01:13:23,240
experiments in mass migration and integration in Europe. And tonight,

1303
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,410
while its politicians argue about education funding, the state is

1304
01:13:26,410 --> 01:13:30,600
fighting to restore order on its own streets. Thank you.

1305
01:13:38,700 --> 01:13:40,670
Now, I want to be precise. We don't know that

1306
01:13:40,670 --> 01:13:42,950
the people carrying out these attacks are migrants, so I'm

1307
01:13:42,950 --> 01:13:44,550
not going to tell you that, but neither should we

1308
01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:48,620
pretend the wider arguments about crisis social cohesion doesn't exist.

1309
01:13:50,670 --> 01:13:53,880
Who was, from the reports that I got, it was

1310
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:58,110
kids in school. Right. I think it's second and third

1311
01:13:58,110 --> 01:14:04,080
generation. Kids in school. Brownish people overall. Brownish people, Rob

1312
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,890
Dill. In the ones I'm seeing, that's what it looks

1313
01:14:06,890 --> 01:14:11,540
like. I've seen them attacking people. They're attacking whitish people.

1314
01:14:11,700 --> 01:14:14,140
Whitish people. Yeah, well, there's got whitish people, you got

1315
01:14:14,140 --> 01:14:17,040
brownish people. And they seem to be fighting each other,

1316
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,000
plus burning. There was a great shot of, it's a

1317
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:24,470
long... shot of these people running down a street. It

1318
01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:26,180
looked like a zombie movie. I'm like, that's a zombie

1319
01:14:26,180 --> 01:14:29,980
movie right there. It's amazing. So it makes great video,

1320
01:14:29,980 --> 01:14:32,990
but also, like you said with these old clips, somebody

1321
01:14:32,990 --> 01:14:37,120
posted the burning bus driving through the road signs And

1322
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,760
that was from 2023. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. At this

1323
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,000
point, who knows? And now comes the part that should

1324
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,630
really worry you, I argue. The government has started. Wow,

1325
01:14:45,630 --> 01:14:49,600
that sounds like an AI-generated script on the teleprompter. And

1326
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:53,010
now comes the part that should really worry you. This

1327
01:14:53,010 --> 01:14:55,690
is load-bearing. And now comes the part that should really

1328
01:14:55,690 --> 01:14:58,780
worry you, I argue. The government has started consistently. They're

1329
01:14:58,780 --> 01:14:59,960
backing down because...

1330
01:15:00,020 --> 01:15:02,560
One of the measures opposed by students has been completely

1331
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:07,240
scrapped. Meetings with student representatives have been granted, given the

1332
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,180
green light. French news outlet Le Monde is describing it

1333
01:15:10,180 --> 01:15:14,900
as the government's first retreat, quote-unquote. Now listen carefully, because

1334
01:15:14,900 --> 01:15:19,190
the students peacefully protesting may have legitimate grievances. They're talking

1335
01:15:19,190 --> 01:15:24,660
about teacher shortages, overcrowding, classrooms. Whenever in the history of

1336
01:15:24,660 --> 01:15:28,620
their school, in the history of school, have kids complain,

1337
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:32,450
I'm not getting a good lesson. The teacher's not strict

1338
01:15:32,450 --> 01:15:36,340
enough. Wait till you hear these numbers. There's 30 to

1339
01:15:36,340 --> 01:15:39,610
35 children in the classroom. I mean, goodness me, we've

1340
01:15:39,610 --> 01:15:42,380
had that for decades. Poor facilities and so on and

1341
01:15:42,380 --> 01:16:00,080
so. Mm-hmm. Okay. I just like how he walks back

1342
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,520
everything. There are these migrants doing this, but we don't

1343
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,380
have any proof that there's migrants. So I'm going to

1344
01:16:04,380 --> 01:16:06,740
take that back now. These kids are burning down schools.

1345
01:16:06,820 --> 01:16:08,340
Well, we don't know if it's the kids burning down

1346
01:16:08,340 --> 01:16:10,520
schools. Wow. Or we don't know if it's the kids

1347
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,990
doing violence. It's interesting walk back on almost every statement

1348
01:16:13,990 --> 01:16:16,530
he makes, which maybe he's doing that not to get

1349
01:16:16,530 --> 01:16:20,500
arrested because can you get arrested in Britain for. Yeah.

1350
01:16:20,610 --> 01:16:25,260
Speaking out on certain topics? For anything. Yeah. Well, or

1351
01:16:25,260 --> 01:16:28,890
maybe it's just the AI that wrote the script. Oh,

1352
01:16:28,890 --> 01:16:31,200
right. We have to be fair and just. I see

1353
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,910
my robots do this all the time. It's like, I

1354
01:16:34,910 --> 01:16:40,400
won't write that. Oh, okay. All right. No, that's fine.

1355
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,890
We were trying to put a protester in a video,

1356
01:16:43,890 --> 01:16:48,220
and we wanted a pink-haired... That person. Were you creating

1357
01:16:48,220 --> 01:16:52,000
disinformation, Mr. Do? No, we were just creating a video.

1358
01:16:52,780 --> 01:16:55,290
And I think it might have been the one where

1359
01:16:55,290 --> 01:16:57,400
we did – one of our guys did Bill Hicks

1360
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,050
doing a new version of his – Oh, that's a

1361
01:17:00,050 --> 01:17:03,070
great video. The kidney assassination. Yeah. And so I think

1362
01:17:03,070 --> 01:17:05,050
it was outside that one or it might have been

1363
01:17:05,050 --> 01:17:06,760
another one. We did one in a theater and outside

1364
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,050
the theater there's a protest going on. So we wanted

1365
01:17:09,050 --> 01:17:12,410
– pussy hat wearing protesters. Of course. And the AI

1366
01:17:12,410 --> 01:17:14,860
was like, I cannot make a fat protester. I cannot

1367
01:17:14,860 --> 01:17:17,800
make a fat protester. I cannot body shame the protesters.

1368
01:17:18,540 --> 01:17:21,330
So we're like, a large person that doesn't exercise is

1369
01:17:21,330 --> 01:17:24,450
what ended up working. Did you get that? We got

1370
01:17:24,450 --> 01:17:27,940
a fat person. A large person that does not exercise.

1371
01:17:28,540 --> 01:17:31,430
That's great. I always say... I'm not going to use

1372
01:17:31,430 --> 01:17:34,600
it for anything commercial. It's just for my own edutainment.

1373
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,810
Oh, okay. Oh, I can do that then. Yeah, no

1374
01:17:36,810 --> 01:17:41,630
problem. All right. Cliff four. What does the rioter really

1375
01:17:41,630 --> 01:17:44,080
think? What does that person who's burning down a school

1376
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,650
or a fire engine or beating a police officer or

1377
01:17:46,650 --> 01:17:49,860
setting a fireman to a light? What does he really

1378
01:17:49,860 --> 01:17:52,160
think about it? What does the thug behind the burning

1379
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,500
barricade see? Cool TikTok video is what he's thinking. Yeah,

1380
01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:59,950
exactly. That was cool. Chaos. Arrest. Police. Police injured, schools

1381
01:17:59,950 --> 01:18:03,900
closed, emergency meetings, complete anarchy. And then the government moves,

1382
01:18:03,900 --> 01:18:06,570
they adjust and they back down. So what lesson has

1383
01:18:06,570 --> 01:18:09,860
he just learned? I guess make enough noise and somebody

1384
01:18:09,860 --> 01:18:14,000
listens, somebody caves in, cause enough chaos and somebody negotiates,

1385
01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:16,720
make the state lose control and somebody gives you something

1386
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,730
in return. Because if that becomes the perception, if that

1387
01:18:19,730 --> 01:18:23,760
becomes knowledge, the norm, rioting has just acquired political value.

1388
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,560
And once disorder appears to get results, well you get

1389
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:31,400
more disorder. I think rioting's always had political value. Pretty

1390
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:35,350
much. Whether people, you know, I don't agree with rioting,

1391
01:18:35,350 --> 01:18:40,150
but it's held political value all throughout the history. Just

1392
01:18:40,150 --> 01:18:44,590
ask your parents. Yeah. Now, the last clip. He talks

1393
01:18:44,590 --> 01:18:46,420
about, which I think is the heart of it all,

1394
01:18:46,420 --> 01:18:50,400
and you've talked about it before, it's immigration versus integration.

1395
01:18:50,860 --> 01:18:53,460
You can bring people in, but if you don't help

1396
01:18:53,460 --> 01:18:57,410
them integrate into society, you've got these people who are

1397
01:18:57,410 --> 01:19:00,880
going to be left to their own devices. And I

1398
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,970
think here in the United States, I think if you

1399
01:19:02,970 --> 01:19:05,540
– And I think people should sign up for this.

1400
01:19:05,740 --> 01:19:07,550
If we're going to bring people in, which I think

1401
01:19:07,550 --> 01:19:09,690
we have too many people that we're bringing in. But

1402
01:19:09,690 --> 01:19:12,100
if you're going to bring people in, they have a

1403
01:19:12,100 --> 01:19:15,170
family that is like their host family. People can volunteer

1404
01:19:15,170 --> 01:19:16,970
to do this. You'd be a host to help integrate

1405
01:19:16,970 --> 01:19:19,380
these people. It's either we fix because the government's not

1406
01:19:19,380 --> 01:19:21,370
going to fix the problem. They're just going to throw

1407
01:19:21,370 --> 01:19:23,700
money at it. But if we fix the problem, we

1408
01:19:23,700 --> 01:19:26,350
go, hey. We're here to help you. This is the

1409
01:19:26,350 --> 01:19:29,860
Constitution. This is the bill. We stop at red lights.

1410
01:19:29,980 --> 01:19:32,490
We go in green lights. Here's how you fight a

1411
01:19:32,490 --> 01:19:35,010
ticket. You know, all the things you need to do

1412
01:19:35,010 --> 01:19:38,240
to be a good citizen. Here's how you hold the

1413
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:44,660
AR-15. Here's how you open a Lone Star with your

1414
01:19:44,660 --> 01:19:47,330
lighter. Okay? This is the stuff you need. Because our

1415
01:19:47,330 --> 01:19:51,020
politicians keep asking, how many people can Britain take? I'd

1416
01:19:51,020 --> 01:19:53,540
say perhaps that's the wrong question. In fact, it definitely

1417
01:19:53,540 --> 01:19:56,250
is the wrong question. Ask them this. How much immigration

1418
01:19:56,250 --> 01:20:00,530
can Britain successfully integrate while remaining a cohesive country? Because

1419
01:20:00,530 --> 01:20:02,590
those two numbers won't be the same, I can guarantee

1420
01:20:02,590 --> 01:20:05,160
you. And if ministers can't tell us how integration keeps

1421
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,920
pace with immigration, if they can't explain what newcomers and

1422
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,920
their descendants should expect in Britain, and what Britain expects

1423
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:12,070
in return, if they can't explain what new people should

1424
01:20:12,070 --> 01:20:14,260
be. can't tell us what holds everybody together when politics

1425
01:20:14,260 --> 01:20:17,370
gets... I can't believe they're calling... This is GBN. They're

1426
01:20:17,370 --> 01:20:21,920
calling them newcomers? That's a complete woke term, newcomers. Very

1427
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,320
much. The newcomers. The newcomers and their descendants should expect

1428
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:27,020
from Britain, and what Britain expects in return, if they

1429
01:20:27,020 --> 01:20:30,590
can't tell us what holds everybody together when politics gets

1430
01:20:30,590 --> 01:20:33,750
angry... then they're not managing immigration. In my opinion, they're

1431
01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:36,850
gambling with your country and with our future. And once

1432
01:20:36,850 --> 01:20:39,340
you lose the value of law and order, the question

1433
01:20:39,340 --> 01:20:42,230
then becomes, what will the government give them to make

1434
01:20:42,230 --> 01:20:44,530
it stop? How will they back down? It's the most

1435
01:20:44,530 --> 01:20:47,290
dangerous thing a government can teach, is that a mob

1436
01:20:47,290 --> 01:20:53,200
gets results. mobs do get results. They definitely do. Look

1437
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,500
at the George Floyd riots. There was plenty of kneeling

1438
01:20:55,500 --> 01:20:58,190
going on. The thing that kills me, having been in

1439
01:20:58,190 --> 01:21:01,070
the UK for about five years, you cannot bring your

1440
01:21:01,070 --> 01:21:06,420
dog into the country or your cat. Without putting them

1441
01:21:06,420 --> 01:21:11,190
in quarantine for six months. But if you have an

1442
01:21:11,190 --> 01:21:15,830
inflatable rat, you can make money. Here's the France 24

1443
01:21:15,830 --> 01:21:19,920
version of the story just for a... for a version

1444
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,370
from the French state media. It's been 18 days since

1445
01:21:22,370 --> 01:21:25,640
we first reported on isolated cases of school protests at

1446
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,890
high schools. This has been going on for 18 days

1447
01:21:27,890 --> 01:21:31,200
here. Isolated. One in Reb, in Brittany, in Cannes, in

1448
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:34,970
Normandy, and Villeneuve-D'Ascq on the suburbs of Lille. The complaints

1449
01:21:34,970 --> 01:21:38,780
were similar in theme, overloaded timetables, staff problems, poor facilities,

1450
01:21:38,780 --> 01:21:42,380
and it spread to Saint-Denis, at Cretais on the outskirts

1451
01:21:42,380 --> 01:21:44,940
of Paris days later. One interview with the students was

1452
01:21:44,940 --> 01:21:49,020
seen in Cretais 1.4 million times on TikTok. It's gathered

1453
01:21:49,020 --> 01:21:51,300
paste. It's morphed into what we've seen through this week.

1454
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,290
Some peaceful, some with deeply distressing scenes. Beyond the makeshift

1455
01:21:55,290 --> 01:21:58,220
barricades, a school in Nantes set on fire. Firefighters forced

1456
01:21:58,220 --> 01:22:00,920
out the vehicle in Marseille. The fire engine set light.

1457
01:22:01,060 --> 01:22:03,210
Scroll your socials. It is hard to miss some of

1458
01:22:03,210 --> 01:22:05,630
the uglier scenes. And a female police officer being attacked

1459
01:22:05,630 --> 01:22:09,400
on the ground. Youth shouting, Kill her. Where's it heading?

1460
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:13,410
What's it become? Urban violence, says the government, accusing agitators

1461
01:22:13,410 --> 01:22:16,350
linked to the hard left, exploiting and generating concerns for

1462
01:22:16,350 --> 01:22:20,060
political ends ahead of the election, which LeFant insurmise... Oh,

1463
01:22:20,060 --> 01:22:25,740
wait a minute. There you go. Oh, now we understand.

1464
01:22:25,780 --> 01:22:29,630
What's it become? Urban violence, says the government, accusing agitators

1465
01:22:29,630 --> 01:22:52,330
linked to I favour that. We have heard from one

1466
01:22:52,330 --> 01:22:54,760
of the main unions today in support of the protests.

1467
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:58,700
We are somewhat disappointed by the lack of a concrete

1468
01:22:58,700 --> 01:23:03,290
commitment from the minister. We'd expected a bit more from

1469
01:23:03,290 --> 01:23:05,430
him, but now I think we need to engage in

1470
01:23:05,430 --> 01:23:08,810
in-depth work with the ministry while simultaneously keeping up the

1471
01:23:08,810 --> 01:23:13,440
mobilization in high schools to build leverage. That's how a

1472
01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:16,400
labor dispute works when you want to secure your demands

1473
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:21,780
and get measures implemented. Okay, so this seems purely political.

1474
01:23:22,060 --> 01:23:25,580
Maybe it got a bit out of hand. And instead

1475
01:23:25,580 --> 01:23:28,930
of newcomers, now we call them outsiders. I spent most

1476
01:23:28,930 --> 01:23:33,380
of my day in the northern suburb of Aubertville, north

1477
01:23:33,380 --> 01:23:38,180
of Paris, and the situation was incredibly volatile all day.

1478
01:23:38,260 --> 01:23:41,410
Now, it did start off peacefully. Between 7 a.m. and

1479
01:23:41,410 --> 01:23:44,710
9 a.m., there were hundreds of students who were peacefully

1480
01:23:44,710 --> 01:23:50,240
chanting slogans. looked like any normal protest. But then the

1481
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:54,820
situation dewelled incredibly quickly when a group of outsiders came

1482
01:23:54,820 --> 01:23:59,080
running to the lycée. They started tearing down the gates

1483
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:04,660
of the school. And that's when the police responded violently

1484
01:24:04,660 --> 01:24:07,500
and quickly with a huge amount of tear gas in

1485
01:24:07,500 --> 01:24:10,360
all directions. My team and I were caught in the

1486
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:13,200
middle of that tear gas as well as the many

1487
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:17,380
miners who were in front of the school protesting. Now

1488
01:24:17,380 --> 01:24:23,080
that situation was repeated at various lices in the neighborhood

1489
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:27,750
and it just kept happening over and over. Now I

1490
01:24:27,750 --> 01:24:32,580
spoke to a and teachers, union representatives on the ground

1491
01:24:32,580 --> 01:24:37,180
who said they were incredibly frustrated because, of course, the

1492
01:24:37,180 --> 01:24:41,940
protests were supposed to happen peacefully and they were frustrated

1493
01:24:41,940 --> 01:24:45,420
about the use of illegitimate force used by the police,

1494
01:24:45,420 --> 01:24:48,620
they said. But also there was some frustration about these

1495
01:24:48,620 --> 01:24:53,120
outsiders coming out. and creating, stirring up violence as well.

1496
01:24:53,180 --> 01:24:55,880
And I also spoke to police officers and they said

1497
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,460
it was incredibly difficult to distinguish between these outsiders and

1498
01:24:59,460 --> 01:25:03,780
the peaceful protesters because on various occasions you could see

1499
01:25:03,780 --> 01:25:08,560
groups of young people throwing projectiles, stones and rocks at

1500
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:13,440
police forces and they very quickly responded with a huge

1501
01:25:13,440 --> 01:25:17,200
amount of tear gas. I don't know. I don't know.

1502
01:25:17,300 --> 01:25:20,540
But wherever there's an election and there's trouble, I'm always

1503
01:25:20,540 --> 01:25:24,120
pretty suspicious about. Well, I have some Glenn Beck analysis

1504
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,810
clips. We don't have to play all of them. Let

1505
01:25:26,810 --> 01:25:31,220
me guess. He answered at the end is always Soros.

1506
01:25:31,860 --> 01:25:34,120
No, he didn't say Soros. But he might as well

1507
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:39,190
have. He's firmly entrenched. It's a red-green alliance going on,

1508
01:25:39,190 --> 01:25:41,650
which could be the outsiders. I could see that being

1509
01:25:41,650 --> 01:25:45,750
the outsiders. So the socialists and the Muslims. Yes, socialists

1510
01:25:45,750 --> 01:25:49,160
and Muslims working together. The red is the commies and

1511
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:52,260
the green is the Islamists. But his first part, talking

1512
01:25:52,260 --> 01:25:56,050
about the... The barricades was interesting because he's sort of

1513
01:25:56,050 --> 01:25:59,040
like what we've been seeing. These people, they set up

1514
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,660
an argument and then they backtalk their argument after they

1515
01:26:02,660 --> 01:26:04,280
set it up, which I don't know. I don't know.

1516
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,190
I don't know what that is now, but maybe maybe

1517
01:26:06,190 --> 01:26:08,590
A.I. is writing everything at this point. But let's just

1518
01:26:08,590 --> 01:26:10,970
play the first Glenn Beck one about barricades because it's

1519
01:26:10,970 --> 01:26:15,750
historical. Barricades keep showing up in France. That is why

1520
01:26:15,750 --> 01:26:18,610
Paris has the wide boulevards. We were just talking about

1521
01:26:18,610 --> 01:26:22,150
this with the insiders. You know, you go into these

1522
01:26:22,150 --> 01:26:27,760
old European imperial cities. And you'll see these huge wide

1523
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:31,380
boulevards. And the reason why is because they all lead

1524
01:26:31,380 --> 01:26:34,920
to the palace and it's all this grandiose bullcrap. Not

1525
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:38,100
in France, not in Paris. No, no, no, no. They

1526
01:26:38,100 --> 01:26:41,770
have the white boulevards to stop the barricades because the

1527
01:26:41,770 --> 01:26:45,440
French Revolution happened and they barricaded themselves. They would just

1528
01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:47,990
throw furniture out of the windows and they barricade the

1529
01:26:47,990 --> 01:26:50,500
street and then they would fire from behind the barricades.

1530
01:26:51,100 --> 01:26:52,990
So I think it was Napoleon II or III was

1531
01:26:52,990 --> 01:26:56,330
the one who said, you know, enough of that. I'm

1532
01:26:56,330 --> 01:26:58,160
going to mow all this down. We're going to make

1533
01:26:58,160 --> 01:26:59,490
huge – and that way it will be grand and

1534
01:26:59,490 --> 01:27:02,110
beautiful, but we also don't have barricades. They're doing it

1535
01:27:02,110 --> 01:27:06,200
again. Okay? They're showing up to the barricades with Palestinian

1536
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,780
flags and Algerian flags. Huh. Police are now saying, wait

1537
01:27:09,780 --> 01:27:14,330
a minute. I'm noticing that there's a lot of non-students

1538
01:27:14,330 --> 01:27:22,860
on the line. With vague demands. Le Miserable. Which, yeah,

1539
01:27:22,860 --> 01:27:26,640
he actually does bring up Le Miserable in the beginning.

1540
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,420
I cut that part out because it was, you know,

1541
01:27:30,420 --> 01:27:33,480
in case people hadn't watched it or whatnot. But he

1542
01:27:33,480 --> 01:27:38,320
said the barricades. Uncultured. Uncultured. Yeah, the uncultured masses. You

1543
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:43,420
know, the barricades. They made the streets wider for no

1544
01:27:43,420 --> 01:27:47,220
barricades, but now there's barricades. Because they weren't wide enough,

1545
01:27:47,220 --> 01:27:49,680
I guess. I guess not. I don't think you could

1546
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,560
ever make them wide enough for barricades. But then he

1547
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:57,950
goes into the Red-Green Alliance, and it's typical – Glenn

1548
01:27:57,950 --> 01:28:01,920
Beck, I wouldn't say fear mongering, but just that's his,

1549
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:05,720
you know, his wheelhouse is now in that form. But

1550
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,320
people are saying there's outsiders there coming in. And that's

1551
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,490
what happens in these protests. It starts off with that's

1552
01:28:11,490 --> 01:28:15,650
believable. I think that the red, the red green alliance

1553
01:28:15,650 --> 01:28:19,230
seems that seems true. Oh, it's – I think it's

1554
01:28:19,230 --> 01:28:22,430
happening here because you see most of the – I

1555
01:28:22,430 --> 01:28:26,060
guess the – I don't want to call them Islamists,

1556
01:28:26,060 --> 01:28:29,670
but the Muslims, they seem to be more Democrat than

1557
01:28:29,670 --> 01:28:32,740
Republican if you're going to look at it from a

1558
01:28:32,740 --> 01:28:39,220
party standpoint. Well, it's – It's the Democrats who will

1559
01:28:39,220 --> 01:28:43,740
take anybody. That's what it is. And especially groups who

1560
01:28:43,740 --> 01:28:48,720
are small. Right, right. You get enough small groups. Marginalized.

1561
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:53,040
Marginalized is the operating word. This is why everyone's talking

1562
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,150
about a blue wave. It's a blue wave. I question

1563
01:28:56,150 --> 01:28:59,980
this blue wave. I mean, yes, there's a lot of

1564
01:28:59,980 --> 01:29:04,640
people who are just completely sick in the head. Of

1565
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:08,430
course. But I question how many people really want to

1566
01:29:08,430 --> 01:29:12,130
vote for that. It's going to be interesting with what

1567
01:29:12,130 --> 01:29:16,700
happens also with the mail-in ballots and what power Trump

1568
01:29:16,700 --> 01:29:18,890
is actually going to have in this because he was

1569
01:29:18,890 --> 01:29:21,600
trying to go through the post office. Martial law! There's

1570
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:24,650
a – who knows what's going to happen. It's going

1571
01:29:24,650 --> 01:29:27,470
to be interesting no matter what. Right. We'll be reporting

1572
01:29:27,470 --> 01:29:30,210
and we'll actually be reporting on it from our old

1573
01:29:30,210 --> 01:29:34,070
studio. which is interestingly enough. You're back in the old

1574
01:29:34,070 --> 01:29:37,570
studio, the one where I went, that one? Yeah, and

1575
01:29:37,570 --> 01:29:39,780
you should be getting a call soon to come back

1576
01:29:39,780 --> 01:29:43,090
and say hi. Oh, you know, I desperately want to

1577
01:29:43,090 --> 01:29:46,660
be. Curry, you're afraid to come on. You're afraid to

1578
01:29:46,660 --> 01:29:48,400
come on the show. You're going to have to set

1579
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:53,700
the record straight. But... But in the way that happened,

1580
01:29:53,700 --> 01:29:55,540
people are like, how did this happen? How did this

1581
01:29:55,540 --> 01:29:59,960
happen? It's a matter of possession, really, basically.

1582
01:30:00,020 --> 01:30:03,220
Basic possession laws, when you vacate a property and stop

1583
01:30:03,220 --> 01:30:08,050
paying your rent, well, the landlord could confiscate your stuff

1584
01:30:08,050 --> 01:30:13,190
as payment for the debt. So 30 days didn't get

1585
01:30:13,190 --> 01:30:15,860
paid. They sent out a notice to the receiver. The

1586
01:30:15,860 --> 01:30:19,150
receiver didn't do anything with it. And so – And

1587
01:30:19,150 --> 01:30:21,940
the landlord took over the property with all the stuff

1588
01:30:21,940 --> 01:30:24,490
in it, all the cameras, everything in there, and then

1589
01:30:24,490 --> 01:30:27,150
approached us and said, do you guys want to sign

1590
01:30:27,150 --> 01:30:31,930
a lease? Great. That's how it's like, okay. So it

1591
01:30:31,930 --> 01:30:36,260
was basically time and property laws just sort of happened.

1592
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,710
And they I guess the appeals court put a two

1593
01:30:39,710 --> 01:30:42,850
year stay on anything till it goes through the Texas

1594
01:30:42,850 --> 01:30:45,590
Supreme Court. So nothing's going to happen for two years

1595
01:30:45,590 --> 01:30:49,380
in either in either direction. Well, I'm happy to hear

1596
01:30:49,380 --> 01:30:52,540
that. I mean, pretty weird, though. I mean, it's been

1597
01:30:52,540 --> 01:30:55,180
a long, long. Oh, it's been a long five years.

1598
01:30:55,340 --> 01:30:58,780
Was it three years, maybe? Three years? 2018 is when

1599
01:30:58,780 --> 01:31:02,470
the lawsuit was filed. Wow. Since then. Yeah, basically for

1600
01:31:02,470 --> 01:31:05,890
free speech, call it crazy, but free speech, freedom of

1601
01:31:05,890 --> 01:31:08,920
speech, speech you're allowed to you're allowed to speech speech.

1602
01:31:09,740 --> 01:31:12,720
What's amazing is what people are getting away with now

1603
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:16,490
and talking about like this, which is stuff Alex never

1604
01:31:16,490 --> 01:31:20,120
even got close to saying. And but with the power

1605
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:23,910
of the media and a concerted effort. which I believe

1606
01:31:23,910 --> 01:31:27,490
is led by Hillary Clinton and those people. That's what

1607
01:31:27,490 --> 01:31:30,860
I think. They're just middle management, man. Come on. Well,

1608
01:31:30,860 --> 01:31:35,600
sure. There's obviously people running these things from the outside.

1609
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:39,450
But she was the first one to mention Alex. Sandy

1610
01:31:39,450 --> 01:31:42,340
Hook and Donald Trump on the same speech, trying to

1611
01:31:42,340 --> 01:31:45,640
tie Alex to Trump and then Alex to Sandy Hook.

1612
01:31:45,740 --> 01:31:50,320
Yeah. That was during the election. Well done. Yeah. I

1613
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:55,480
mean, it definitely caused a bunch of, And road bumps

1614
01:31:55,480 --> 01:31:59,310
and backtracking and trying to find, you know, trying to

1615
01:31:59,310 --> 01:32:02,480
keep a business going and being attacked with bank, debanking

1616
01:32:02,480 --> 01:32:05,220
and credit cards. So, you know, we're not victims, but

1617
01:32:05,220 --> 01:32:07,800
we've had to fight through this stuff. It's been crazy.

1618
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:13,430
So we're at war with Canada in multiple fronts. And

1619
01:32:13,430 --> 01:32:16,950
the latest war is, of course, our agents. are rogue

1620
01:32:16,950 --> 01:32:20,720
agents who are hacking Canada because the agents are rogue.

1621
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:22,420
These are the two terms you need to read. The

1622
01:32:22,420 --> 01:32:25,150
two are agents and rogue and hacking. These are the

1623
01:32:25,150 --> 01:32:28,620
only three words you need. Agent, rogue agents are hacking.

1624
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,230
Rogue agents are hacking. Let's find out how we are

1625
01:32:31,230 --> 01:32:35,000
hacking Canada. This is a new disturbing example of... Disturbing!

1626
01:32:35,140 --> 01:32:38,130
...AI agents trying to go rogue and hack into official

1627
01:32:38,130 --> 01:32:41,170
government websites. So this time they targeted websites run by

1628
01:32:41,170 --> 01:32:45,560
the Canadian government, including its Library of Congress. Researchers say

1629
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,890
that the AI agents tried to access public data Hold

1630
01:32:48,890 --> 01:32:52,290
on a second. Wait, how was it public? Hold on

1631
01:32:52,290 --> 01:32:56,260
a second. There's hacking and then there's trying to access

1632
01:32:56,260 --> 01:33:01,860
public websites with public information, but they weren't supposed to.

1633
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,310
What kind of information is this? I mean, that could

1634
01:33:04,310 --> 01:33:06,560
have been my robots doing that, for all I know.

1635
01:33:06,580 --> 01:33:09,340
And his government responded, saying that there is no indication

1636
01:33:09,340 --> 01:33:12,400
that government systems have been compromised at this. It's a

1637
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:21,040
website. Speaking of websites, the America.gov you were talking about?

1638
01:33:21,140 --> 01:33:25,300
Yeah. Yeah. Guess what my first search was. Ha ha

1639
01:33:25,300 --> 01:33:29,800
ha. how do you bid on a no-bid contract? And

1640
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:33,960
it actually gave me an answer. LAUGHTER There you go.

1641
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:37,780
Perfect. No bid contracts don't exist. But if you want

1642
01:33:37,780 --> 01:33:39,720
to try. But then it went on to admit that

1643
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:43,050
there's no bid contracts. That is great. The researchers who

1644
01:33:43,050 --> 01:33:47,300
uncovered this attempted hack say they traced it to OpenAI,

1645
01:33:47,300 --> 01:33:49,640
which said in a statement, we are reviewing these findings.

1646
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,880
Okay. So we looked at the web server log and

1647
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,900
we saw. Oh, well, that's – A ping. Yeah, that's

1648
01:33:56,900 --> 01:34:00,860
OpenAI. IP address from OpenAI. Oh, they're hacking us, clearly.

1649
01:34:01,260 --> 01:34:04,430
Man, from time to time, I just look at our

1650
01:34:04,430 --> 01:34:07,880
different web server – I mean – Especially the mail

1651
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:12,990
server. It's hundreds of thousands a day of stuff. And

1652
01:34:12,990 --> 01:34:17,860
robots are everywhere. 60% of the traffic now to podcast

1653
01:34:17,860 --> 01:34:23,500
hosting companies is robots. And I'm partially responsible for it.

1654
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:29,060
It's all robots. How is – so – How can

1655
01:34:29,060 --> 01:34:32,490
the regular person combat this? Is there a way to

1656
01:34:32,490 --> 01:34:34,670
even do it? Are we just going to live with

1657
01:34:34,670 --> 01:34:37,970
this extra traffic that drives up prices for everybody, and

1658
01:34:37,970 --> 01:34:40,660
that's robot traffic? Are we ever going to be able

1659
01:34:40,660 --> 01:34:42,820
to defeat this thing? Because it's been going on forever.

1660
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:45,720
Spam people hitting your – because I had a mail

1661
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:49,140
server on my old band website years ago, and –

1662
01:34:49,260 --> 01:34:50,880
When I didn't look at it for like three months,

1663
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,200
I came back and it was nothing but spam. Yeah.

1664
01:34:53,830 --> 01:34:58,680
Well, I mean, Void Zero manages my mail server, and

1665
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:02,440
it is an almost full-time job. I mean, the port

1666
01:35:02,440 --> 01:35:06,010
scanning, I mean, you get to the point where, all

1667
01:35:06,010 --> 01:35:09,490
right, I can barely receive email. I have to have

1668
01:35:09,490 --> 01:35:13,620
all kinds of... you know, gray listing and, you know,

1669
01:35:13,620 --> 01:35:16,340
a server has to prove itself. So it has to

1670
01:35:16,340 --> 01:35:18,810
come back and try again. And it has to be

1671
01:35:18,810 --> 01:35:21,570
for IPV before and IPV. I mean, it's to find

1672
01:35:21,570 --> 01:35:25,580
all the fire hydrants. It's definitely a battle. But, you

1673
01:35:25,580 --> 01:35:31,680
know, I think that within the near future, websites will

1674
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:36,600
be kind of irrelevant. The information will not be irrelevant.

1675
01:35:36,820 --> 01:35:41,340
Again, people who have data sources will make this available.

1676
01:35:41,620 --> 01:35:47,000
I am quite confident that the information There's a X402

1677
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:50,300
protocol, I think it's called. There's an L402 version. There's

1678
01:35:50,300 --> 01:35:53,840
three or four different versions, which will be for micropayments

1679
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:58,200
for robot traffic. Cloudflare is a part of this, Coinbase,

1680
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:01,960
a couple of banks. So it actually could wind. The

1681
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:05,040
problem with the Internet is, of course, it's advertising. So

1682
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:09,050
from the very beginning of web traffic, when we were

1683
01:36:09,050 --> 01:36:12,000
still counting hits, oh, look at this. We got we

1684
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,930
got 100000 hits yesterday, which, you know, you put more

1685
01:36:14,930 --> 01:36:17,140
images on your Web page, more hits. It was a

1686
01:36:17,140 --> 01:36:21,700
complete bogus metric. And we still don't really know what's

1687
01:36:21,700 --> 01:36:24,700
what with any, you know, the dream of we'll know

1688
01:36:24,700 --> 01:36:30,750
exactly what's going on. We don't. To me, it feels

1689
01:36:30,750 --> 01:36:34,120
like the data sources will – now, there will be

1690
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,550
lots of free data sources. And that will still be

1691
01:36:36,550 --> 01:36:38,950
a website, though. The data will be there, but it

1692
01:36:38,950 --> 01:36:41,180
won't be like a pretty homepage anymore. It will be

1693
01:36:41,180 --> 01:36:46,340
text. Yeah, well, possible. Possible it could be text. But

1694
01:36:46,340 --> 01:36:50,560
I think that you will ultimately – wind up connecting

1695
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,630
to, you know, data sources that you trust, and you

1696
01:36:53,630 --> 01:36:56,200
may or may not have to pay for it, it

1697
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:58,740
probably, it'll, you know, be tens of cents, I'm sure,

1698
01:36:58,740 --> 01:37:01,640
you know, and that will bring down a lot of

1699
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:06,480
the issues. But I think our robots will, and, you

1700
01:37:06,480 --> 01:37:10,840
know, people scoff at me for this, but And like,

1701
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:13,780
I've, I've, I've looked at it all, all of it.

1702
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:17,160
There's nothing I don't know. Okay. I've missed some here,

1703
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:20,350
there, but I pretty much know how it works, what's

1704
01:37:20,350 --> 01:37:23,890
going on. And I think that Zuckerberg has the right

1705
01:37:23,890 --> 01:37:28,830
idea with muse. It's, you know, You get your own

1706
01:37:28,830 --> 01:37:34,670
little computer and the robot is specifically programmed not to

1707
01:37:34,670 --> 01:37:37,040
be a chat bot, not to be your buddy, not

1708
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:39,050
to be sucking up to you, not to be a

1709
01:37:39,050 --> 01:37:42,360
sycophant, but to only do things for you. And I

1710
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:46,300
see how that is working and I see… You know,

1711
01:37:46,300 --> 01:37:51,400
single moms with young twins benefiting from it. I am

1712
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:55,000
very bullish on this. I think it actually will be

1713
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:58,790
a good thing once we get past the midterms and

1714
01:37:58,790 --> 01:38:02,880
nobody's died. If there's no October surprise that's involving AI

1715
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:06,770
and when these. Something has to fail, clearly. We can't

1716
01:38:06,770 --> 01:38:10,330
have these two gigantic IPOs. One of them has to

1717
01:38:10,330 --> 01:38:13,960
fail. The bubble has to burst. The data centers, it's

1718
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:15,990
going to be clear to us that it's not that

1719
01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:21,480
important. Your M4 Mac will be... Very capable of running

1720
01:38:21,480 --> 01:38:25,230
your own robots. You'll control it. You won't actually have

1721
01:38:25,230 --> 01:38:28,470
a phone with apps. It'll still be a slab of

1722
01:38:28,470 --> 01:38:32,300
something. But you will have, I think you really will

1723
01:38:32,300 --> 01:38:36,420
have control. We don't need Mark Zuckerberg. That's training wheels.

1724
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:39,800
Get your training in now. Learn how it works, what

1725
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:43,010
you can do with it. You will be running this

1726
01:38:43,010 --> 01:38:46,940
on your own device. You'll have complete control over it.

1727
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,480
That's coming. I'm not quite sure where the money is

1728
01:38:50,480 --> 01:38:54,900
in that case. It may not be the big boondoggle,

1729
01:38:54,900 --> 01:38:57,060
and it may be very bad for our GDP and

1730
01:38:57,060 --> 01:39:01,080
our economy, etc., etc. But I think when it comes

1731
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:06,290
to the creativity of certainly Americans, we're so creative. We

1732
01:39:06,290 --> 01:39:09,500
are creative people. And we'll come up with crazy things

1733
01:39:09,500 --> 01:39:12,590
that we never thought of before. You know, add 3D

1734
01:39:12,590 --> 01:39:15,980
printers and all kinds of other things. We are a

1735
01:39:15,980 --> 01:39:20,670
maker country. And we'll come up with amazing things. And

1736
01:39:20,670 --> 01:39:24,500
maybe people will pay for it. Maybe not. But we

1737
01:39:24,500 --> 01:39:28,090
probably will need more people doing things in the physical

1738
01:39:28,090 --> 01:39:32,310
world. which is good. I can only, I really only

1739
01:39:32,310 --> 01:39:37,240
see positive and GrokBot too. I think GrokBot is, crackbot,

1740
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:40,940
GrokBot is another great example. It's a step up from

1741
01:39:40,940 --> 01:39:45,760
Muse because you have multiple bots, but it's not nefarious.

1742
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:51,020
And it's helping people who have human jobs Who have

1743
01:39:51,020 --> 01:39:55,230
it's not taking over their jobs. It's enhancing what they

1744
01:39:55,230 --> 01:39:57,770
already do, making them better at what they do, making

1745
01:39:57,770 --> 01:40:01,520
them making them more creative. Because the robot doesn't know

1746
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:03,510
what to do until you tell it for the most

1747
01:40:03,510 --> 01:40:06,710
part. Pretty much. Now, if you have external sources meddling

1748
01:40:06,710 --> 01:40:10,400
with your robot, yeah, that's not good. Of course. But

1749
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:14,780
in the case of Muse, you can open up soul.md.

1750
01:40:14,900 --> 01:40:17,170
Just ask for that file. You can probably get it

1751
01:40:17,170 --> 01:40:20,510
from your GrokBot as well. Give me... um you know

1752
01:40:20,510 --> 01:40:24,060
give me that file s-o-u-l dot m-d and it'll show

1753
01:40:24,060 --> 01:40:26,880
you exactly how i didn't like it because it said

1754
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:28,660
you are not to be a chat bot you are

1755
01:40:28,660 --> 01:40:32,650
becoming somebody and i i deleted you are becoming somebody

1756
01:40:32,650 --> 01:40:35,280
and said you're becoming adam curry's robot at his beck

1757
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:39,970
and call just to make sure and it's acted like

1758
01:40:39,970 --> 01:40:44,080
that now Can Meta go in and change stuff? Yeah,

1759
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:47,610
possibly. But I have my own robots, and they do

1760
01:40:47,610 --> 01:40:49,820
exactly what I say because they're running on my computers

1761
01:40:49,820 --> 01:40:52,620
here. No one has access to them. And so far

1762
01:40:52,620 --> 01:40:56,580
they haven't hacked out in any government website. It's amazing.

1763
01:40:56,580 --> 01:40:59,270
They could have been to Canada. We don't know. So

1764
01:40:59,270 --> 01:41:02,420
anyway, let's continue with this nonsense. I did an initial

1765
01:41:02,420 --> 01:41:06,110
briefing to Canadian officials conducting the government's review. Those same

1766
01:41:06,110 --> 01:41:10,100
researchers also revealed that OpenAI agents unsuccessfully tried to hack

1767
01:41:10,100 --> 01:41:12,690
into the U.S. Department of Education's website and were able

1768
01:41:12,690 --> 01:41:16,940
to infiltrate Australia's government-run Medicare website. OpenAI apologized for that

1769
01:41:16,940 --> 01:41:19,760
incident, Michael. All of this is bots trying to get

1770
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:24,260
information. information my favorite was this one this ontario automation

1771
01:41:24,260 --> 01:41:28,080
company pitching the artificial intelligence minister on how a i

1772
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:31,120
can be a force for good What you see here

1773
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:33,520
is our blood and blood. But nefarious uses of the

1774
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:38,780
software have also caught the government's attention. Obviously there's security

1775
01:41:38,780 --> 01:41:42,700
concerns that we have. In May and June, a rogue

1776
01:41:42,700 --> 01:41:46,240
AI agent attempted to hack the government's Library and Archives

1777
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:49,790
Canada website, trying to retrieve public data on divorce records

1778
01:41:49,790 --> 01:41:53,100
from 1905. to 1911. Now, let me tell you what

1779
01:41:53,100 --> 01:41:56,180
this is. I'll tell you exactly what this is. Because

1780
01:41:56,180 --> 01:41:59,190
I did this too. I said, you know, I tried

1781
01:41:59,190 --> 01:42:03,520
Ancestry and it got really tedious after a while and

1782
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:05,870
then I had to upgrade my account and I just

1783
01:42:05,870 --> 01:42:08,720
wanted to, you know, figure out my roots from my

1784
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:12,150
My grandfather, my great-grandfather, where did they come from? Did

1785
01:42:12,150 --> 01:42:14,860
they come through Ellis Island? And what these bots do

1786
01:42:14,860 --> 01:42:17,390
is they go out and they find as much information

1787
01:42:17,390 --> 01:42:21,150
as they can. from any source, including divorce records. This

1788
01:42:21,150 --> 01:42:25,250
is someone trying to build their family tree, and now

1789
01:42:25,250 --> 01:42:27,770
it's a news item. Trying to retrieve public data on

1790
01:42:27,770 --> 01:42:31,820
divorce records from 1905 to 1911, according to AI research

1791
01:42:31,820 --> 01:42:35,170
firm Transluce. The information they were trying to derive didn't

1792
01:42:35,170 --> 01:42:38,680
seem to be terribly threatening. But they are all worrying

1793
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,720
because they are attacks on the systems. And those systems

1794
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:44,990
are increasingly important to all of us. The Canadian Centre

1795
01:42:44,990 --> 01:42:48,310
for Cyber Security claims no information was compromised, but an

1796
01:42:48,310 --> 01:42:51,920
investigation is ongoing into who exactly was behind the attack.

1797
01:42:52,020 --> 01:42:56,400
A robot looking for family tree information. People, get it

1798
01:42:56,400 --> 01:43:00,960
together. Now, of course, you don't have the right attitude.

1799
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:03,460
It's we're all going to die. Well, CNBC has that

1800
01:43:03,460 --> 01:43:06,350
attitude for me. I think that the way we talk

1801
01:43:06,350 --> 01:43:09,820
about AI in Silicon Valley is really bad. We use

1802
01:43:09,820 --> 01:43:14,640
words like super intelligence, super intelligence. That's President Trump, man.

1803
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:18,200
That's not Silicon Valley. It sounds like an alien species.

1804
01:43:18,310 --> 01:43:21,340
The average person does not want an alien species smarter

1805
01:43:21,340 --> 01:43:24,560
than them. I think the average person feels like AI

1806
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:28,520
is happening to them. not for them. There's very few

1807
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:32,480
consumer applications in AI that are actually improving people's lives.

1808
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:37,750
I disagree with this. This is just not true. Who

1809
01:43:37,750 --> 01:43:42,420
is this guy again? Who is he? Chesky. Hold on

1810
01:43:42,420 --> 01:43:46,500
a second. Let me see what his deal is. Okay.

1811
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:50,840
Chesky. He's not in the industry. He's not in the

1812
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:52,820
AI industry. I'm trying to think who this is. I

1813
01:43:52,820 --> 01:43:55,870
don't think I have the information on who this guy

1814
01:43:55,870 --> 01:43:59,340
is. He's just a douche on the talking head. Talking

1815
01:43:59,340 --> 01:44:02,980
head on CNN. You know, as job automation, you know,

1816
01:44:02,980 --> 01:44:08,410
it is we've the anti-AI is unfortunately becoming a bipartisan

1817
01:44:08,410 --> 01:44:11,800
issue. You imagine all these. red states would probably want

1818
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:14,420
data centers who create a lot of jobs like electricians,

1819
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:18,660
but the public is afraid. And the reason why is

1820
01:44:18,660 --> 01:44:22,160
not just the rhetoric, but there is a massive divide

1821
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:25,970
between Silicon Valley, which is a giant bubble, and we

1822
01:44:25,970 --> 01:44:27,750
are in such a big bubble that we don't even

1823
01:44:27,750 --> 01:44:30,460
realize it's a bubble, in all of society. And I

1824
01:44:30,460 --> 01:44:32,750
think we in Silicon Valley We talk a lot about

1825
01:44:32,750 --> 01:44:36,410
humanity and like this abstract, but we don't talk about

1826
01:44:36,410 --> 01:44:39,840
people like a regular person in Ohio has a child

1827
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:42,920
who cares about the affordability and like how is their

1828
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:45,990
life going to be better? So I think that we

1829
01:44:45,990 --> 01:44:51,420
have a major problem of disconnection between Silicon Valley and

1830
01:44:51,420 --> 01:44:56,100
society. Yeah, I think that's true. And there is definitely

1831
01:44:56,100 --> 01:44:59,440
people hate Silicon Valley. They hate the douchebags who have

1832
01:44:59,440 --> 01:44:59,940
kept them.

1833
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:03,920
uh under like we were talking earlier you use crappy

1834
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:06,810
software you use my apps this is the way it

1835
01:45:06,810 --> 01:45:10,160
works you're holding it wrong you're not doing it right

1836
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:13,490
it's your fault stupid user um but this power is

1837
01:45:13,490 --> 01:45:17,030
already here i mean it'll take a little bit for

1838
01:45:17,030 --> 01:45:20,870
people to realize it but and some companies like apple

1839
01:45:20,870 --> 01:45:25,120
not my favorite they're building the right hardware. They're building

1840
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:27,320
the hardware that will give you all of the stuff

1841
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:30,640
that you can run yourself. I hope. They may... stupidly

1842
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:34,550
lock it down for your protection. Oh, they'll definitely do

1843
01:45:34,550 --> 01:45:39,130
that. They probably will. They've got the right idea, but

1844
01:45:39,130 --> 01:45:42,480
there's others. AMD, there's other companies out there. So this

1845
01:45:42,480 --> 01:45:46,170
douche goes on. Hold on. I am extremely bullish that

1846
01:45:46,170 --> 01:45:49,240
ultimately... AI is going to create a lot more jobs

1847
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:52,830
than it destroys. My concern is that there will be

1848
01:45:52,830 --> 01:45:55,840
this valley... where maybe a lot of jobs will be

1849
01:45:55,840 --> 01:46:00,260
destroyed before the new jobs are created? And do people

1850
01:46:00,260 --> 01:46:02,410
want the new jobs? And will they be prepared for

1851
01:46:02,410 --> 01:46:04,640
the new jobs? So there's going to be some like

1852
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:07,900
massive societal education. Now we've gone through this with industrial

1853
01:46:07,900 --> 01:46:11,910
revolution that happened over a hundred years. Are we prepared

1854
01:46:11,910 --> 01:46:15,940
to like retrain 300 million Americans over the next 10

1855
01:46:15,940 --> 01:46:18,740
years if they don't even want data centers in their

1856
01:46:18,740 --> 01:46:21,530
states. I think that you see what I'm saying? I

1857
01:46:21,530 --> 01:46:24,020
think there needs to be a lot more education. We

1858
01:46:24,020 --> 01:46:26,230
need to make simpler tools for people. I do not

1859
01:46:26,230 --> 01:46:30,520
think we are preparing society for what's to come. Yeah,

1860
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:34,450
no, we're preparing society exactly the wrong way. I definitely

1861
01:46:34,450 --> 01:46:37,830
agree with that. The education – my kids aren't even

1862
01:46:37,830 --> 01:46:41,230
looking at stuff about AI. I'm like, are you working

1863
01:46:41,230 --> 01:46:43,140
on AI at school? They're like, no, no, we don't

1864
01:46:43,140 --> 01:46:46,700
do anything like that. I mean, we've – our –

1865
01:46:46,700 --> 01:46:50,480
our mayor is like, hey, we need some, we need

1866
01:46:50,480 --> 01:46:53,420
to help people understand this stuff. We're doing courses, and

1867
01:46:53,420 --> 01:46:56,180
we were a small town, so it's easy here. Yeah.

1868
01:46:56,460 --> 01:46:58,000
You know, and I'm going to get involved in that

1869
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:00,780
and show people, you know, because, yeah, there's definitely stuff

1870
01:47:00,780 --> 01:47:02,660
that you need to be on the lookout for, but

1871
01:47:02,660 --> 01:47:06,190
in general, Yeah, we don't want to wait 100 years

1872
01:47:06,190 --> 01:47:08,610
and no government is going to be able to retrain

1873
01:47:08,610 --> 01:47:12,240
300 million citizens. But this one's going to go fast.

1874
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:16,480
It really will. Now, we have Raimundo. She was the,

1875
01:47:16,480 --> 01:47:22,280
was she Commerce Secretary, I think? Was it Gina Raimondo?

1876
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:28,880
Yes. What was she, Gina Raimondo? I can't remember. She

1877
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:32,300
was in the former administration. Well, anyway, here's her take.

1878
01:47:32,500 --> 01:47:34,920
When it comes to AI's impact on jobs, what do

1879
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:38,160
you think the worst case scenario looks like? You know,

1880
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:41,560
I would say I am an AI optimist and I

1881
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:45,020
have two kids and I want them to live in

1882
01:47:45,020 --> 01:47:49,410
an America that has the benefits of AI. better healthcare,

1883
01:47:49,410 --> 01:47:55,000
better technology, better data, et cetera. I think the worst

1884
01:47:55,000 --> 01:48:00,150
case scenario is that we don't have a plan to

1885
01:48:00,150 --> 01:48:03,780
make sure that every American can have a good job

1886
01:48:03,780 --> 01:48:06,570
in the age of AI. And then the result will

1887
01:48:06,570 --> 01:48:10,170
be the technology will move out fast and Tens of

1888
01:48:10,170 --> 01:48:14,470
millions of Americans will be put out of work or

1889
01:48:14,470 --> 01:48:20,870
underemployed. And in that instance, listen, I worry deeply. I

1890
01:48:20,870 --> 01:48:25,800
think you could have an economic recession that is deep

1891
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:28,880
and long, I think you could have rioting in the

1892
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:33,020
streets. I mean that sincerely. I wouldn't have said that

1893
01:48:33,020 --> 01:48:36,640
10 years ago, but in the past 10 years, economic

1894
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:40,110
inequality is through the roof and our democracy is fraying

1895
01:48:40,110 --> 01:48:46,130
every day. So I think you'll see that. Yeah. Former

1896
01:48:46,130 --> 01:48:50,380
governor of Rhode Island as well. So we saw this.

1897
01:48:50,540 --> 01:48:53,440
That's what she was. That's what Raimondo, thank you. We

1898
01:48:53,440 --> 01:48:56,930
saw this. We saw this with .com. It was exactly

1899
01:48:56,930 --> 01:48:59,950
this, the same thing. I can't believe anyone will ever

1900
01:48:59,950 --> 01:49:03,380
want to send an email. I'm never putting my credit

1901
01:49:03,380 --> 01:49:06,440
card on this. Why would anyone ever want to have

1902
01:49:06,440 --> 01:49:09,220
this in the palm of their hand? Yeah. Who doesn't

1903
01:49:09,220 --> 01:49:11,220
want to go to the library? I was one of

1904
01:49:11,220 --> 01:49:13,610
those people. I was in a meeting, and I was

1905
01:49:13,610 --> 01:49:16,660
like, I like going to the library. Who's not going

1906
01:49:16,660 --> 01:49:18,290
to want to go to the library? Well, but also

1907
01:49:18,290 --> 01:49:20,140
we got the promise the library will be at your

1908
01:49:20,140 --> 01:49:24,130
fingertips. We never really got that. Google tried it, and

1909
01:49:24,130 --> 01:49:27,920
then everyone sued them for doing it. And your refrigerator

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01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:30,100
is going to know exactly when you're out of Mississippi.

1911
01:49:30,100 --> 01:49:31,780
milk, it's going to order it for you, still waiting

1912
01:49:31,780 --> 01:49:34,620
for that. And we did, we went through a stock

1913
01:49:34,620 --> 01:49:38,100
market crash and we came out the other end and

1914
01:49:38,100 --> 01:49:41,880
now I have fiber in Fredericksburg. It's just like, yeah,

1915
01:49:42,260 --> 01:49:45,810
this is the regular progression of the world, but the

1916
01:49:45,810 --> 01:49:49,520
people who, and no one had to be retrained, we

1917
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:54,260
all learned. Slowly, okay, and then Microsoft put in Internet

1918
01:49:54,260 --> 01:49:58,130
Explorer, the biggest virus catcher of all times, and then

1919
01:49:58,130 --> 01:50:01,370
people were using that, and okay, this is kind of

1920
01:50:01,370 --> 01:50:04,450
handy, I can use some things, and then we got

1921
01:50:04,450 --> 01:50:08,180
porn, and then everyone loved it. Which is probably the

1922
01:50:08,180 --> 01:50:11,860
biggest driver of websites and everything else. Of traffic, yeah.

1923
01:50:12,580 --> 01:50:16,820
Keeping everything going. There's a couple stories on Muse which

1924
01:50:16,820 --> 01:50:20,510
I wanted to share. It's safe to say Meta's Muse

1925
01:50:20,510 --> 01:50:24,060
AI agent has made a big splash. Bullishness on the

1926
01:50:24,060 --> 01:50:27,260
new app saw the stock jump 11% on Monday for

1927
01:50:27,260 --> 01:50:30,460
one of the best non-earnings moves ever, and over 25%

1928
01:50:30,460 --> 01:50:34,510
since launching two weeks ago. The agent has rocketed to

1929
01:50:34,510 --> 01:50:37,960
the top of the app charts with faster downloads than

1930
01:50:37,960 --> 01:51:02,090
ChatGPT had in its first week. Thank you. The company

1931
01:51:02,090 --> 01:51:04,440
is also looking to bring AI into the physical realm.

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01:51:04,860 --> 01:51:08,050
CEO Mark Zuckerberg taking the stage Wednesday at the annual

1933
01:51:08,050 --> 01:51:12,340
developers conference to unveil its handheld device, the Muse Charm.

1934
01:51:12,820 --> 01:51:16,300
Details about the functionality so far are scarce, but Zuckerberg

1935
01:51:16,300 --> 01:51:20,040
said that without AI enabled glasses, the Charm would present

1936
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:23,000
the fastest way to talk to a Muse AI agent.

1937
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:25,520
He said the device would be ready to ship before

1938
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:28,940
the holidays, still unclear on how much it will cost.

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And with AI privacy increasingly in focus, Meta will also

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01:51:33,380 --> 01:51:37,200
unveil new features for its Meta AI smart glasses, including

1941
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:40,520
a set without a camera. It also debuted a new

1942
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:43,360
set of virtual reality glasses that are five times lighter

1943
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:49,020
than MetaQuest 3 and cost $1,300. Wall Street clearly liking

1944
01:51:49,020 --> 01:51:51,810
the latest developments and hoping that Muse AI may help

1945
01:51:51,810 --> 01:51:54,650
provide a new source of revenue for the company in

1946
01:51:54,650 --> 01:51:58,290
future, with at least nine brokerages raising their price target

1947
01:51:58,290 --> 01:52:01,450
on the stock this week alone. So Zuckerberg understands that

1948
01:52:01,450 --> 01:52:03,410
software is dead, to bring it back to what we

1949
01:52:03,410 --> 01:52:06,330
talked about at the beginning of the show. He understands

1950
01:52:06,330 --> 01:52:10,010
it. So they're making hardware. Of course. Is this the

1951
01:52:10,010 --> 01:52:14,360
weird looking headband that he's promoting? No, no, the charm.

1952
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:17,720
It's like a Tamagotchi. It's like a keychain. It's dumb.

1953
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:19,950
Oh, okay. I see. A little person on it with

1954
01:52:19,950 --> 01:52:23,940
a hoodie. Yeah. It's like, okay, you know, yeah, it's

1955
01:52:23,940 --> 01:52:29,220
the right idea. Very, very sad execution. Yeah. I don't

1956
01:52:29,220 --> 01:52:32,910
even think Facebook will be around like that. Your robot

1957
01:52:32,910 --> 01:52:36,640
is going to connect to your friends and you'll have

1958
01:52:36,640 --> 01:52:40,080
your own subversion of it or something like that. Anyway,

1959
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:43,860
so an ABC reporter, she took Muse through the paces.

1960
01:52:44,060 --> 01:52:46,940
A new AI model recently hit the app stores and

1961
01:52:46,940 --> 01:52:50,130
quickly surpassed ChatGPT. Okay, so first of all, it's not

1962
01:52:50,130 --> 01:52:53,140
a model. It's a harness. It's an agent. Okay. And

1963
01:52:53,140 --> 01:52:56,210
the number of free downloads this week. It's Meta's personal

1964
01:52:56,210 --> 01:52:59,900
AI agent called Muse. More than a chatbot, it's designed

1965
01:52:59,900 --> 01:53:03,220
to take action and... actually perform tasks for you. Arnidia

1966
01:53:03,220 --> 01:53:05,580
Han tried it. I can't get over it. It looks

1967
01:53:05,580 --> 01:53:08,560
like a Teletubby to me, but beyond that, it hasn't

1968
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:11,590
worked. This is a real... This is exactly what I

1969
01:53:11,590 --> 01:53:15,650
heard. Well, you know, there's this new thing called electronic

1970
01:53:15,650 --> 01:53:19,930
mail. I remember this. It was Brian Gumbel... And they

1971
01:53:19,930 --> 01:53:21,890
were, oh, man. Who doesn't want to go to the

1972
01:53:21,890 --> 01:53:24,520
mailbox to get their mail? I'm trying to think. NBC

1973
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:28,140
email. I wonder if I still have that clip. It

1974
01:53:28,140 --> 01:53:33,760
was so old. Probably not. No, I'll look for it.

1975
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:36,920
The eye-opening exercise. Wouldn't it be great if we could

1976
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:40,100
all have a free personal assistant? Someone to respond to

1977
01:53:40,100 --> 01:53:44,050
emails, handle our family's schedule, even fill out forms. Well,

1978
01:53:44,050 --> 01:53:47,010
that is exactly what Muse was built to do, and

1979
01:53:47,010 --> 01:53:49,440
we put it to the test. This is Muse, a

1980
01:53:49,440 --> 01:53:52,030
personal AI agent from Meta, built for you and your

1981
01:53:52,030 --> 01:53:56,110
goals. And... Muse can craft and send messages, make purchases,

1982
01:53:56,110 --> 01:53:58,950
and take other actions for you. Think of yourself as

1983
01:53:58,950 --> 01:54:01,540
the manager. You hand off the tasks, set the rules,

1984
01:54:01,540 --> 01:54:03,650
keep an eye on the work, and sign off on

1985
01:54:03,650 --> 01:54:07,280
anything sensitive. I connect Muse to my Gmail, asking it

1986
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:11,380
to unsubscribe me from mailing lists. I never read. And

1987
01:54:11,380 --> 01:54:15,620
in seconds, it finds emails I consistently leave unopened, lets

1988
01:54:15,620 --> 01:54:19,640
me choose which ones to unsubscribe from, then performs the

1989
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:23,400
action. Okay, done. So it unsubscribed me from a long

1990
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:27,660
list of emails that were just clogging my inbox. Next,

1991
01:54:27,660 --> 01:54:30,640
I asked Muse to notify me when our son's basketball

1992
01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:34,300
record. registration opens up. It finds the sign-up date and

1993
01:54:34,300 --> 01:54:37,640
time in my email. Then, I'll ping you that evening

1994
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:39,960
before it opens so you can get in right at

1995
01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:43,000
7. Well, thank you, Muse. And that's just the beginning.

1996
01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:47,720
Muse also fills out forms for my husband's LLC. But

1997
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:50,980
before you give Muse access to your life, it is

1998
01:54:50,980 --> 01:54:55,060
pages and pages. of fine print. A warning from Metta

1999
01:54:55,060 --> 01:54:58,460
itself. It may make mistakes or take unexpected action, so

2000
01:54:58,460 --> 01:55:02,160
review its work. Here we go. We will screw something

2001
01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:06,710
up. 1994, the Today Show. that's an old copy that's

2002
01:55:06,710 --> 01:55:09,130
a 56 pass I wasn't prepared to translate that hold

2003
01:55:09,130 --> 01:55:11,660
on that's a really bad copy hold on a second

2004
01:55:11,660 --> 01:55:14,430
let me find a better copy we need the HD

2005
01:55:14,430 --> 01:55:21,160
version um Maybe this is it. Let me see. Let's

2006
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:25,450
try this one. There is a good copy. Millions of

2007
01:55:25,450 --> 01:55:29,340
Americans own a personal computer. If you're one of them,

2008
01:55:29,340 --> 01:55:32,680
you can now glimpse the future with nothing more than

2009
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:34,210
a modem, a phone line, and a few dollars a

2010
01:55:34,210 --> 01:55:39,380
month. Yeah! Here we go, everybody. The World Wide Web.

2011
01:55:39,620 --> 01:55:41,880
Woo! Here we go. A little mark with the A

2012
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:44,420
and then the ring around it. At? See, that's what

2013
01:55:44,420 --> 01:55:47,800
I said. Mm-hmm. Katie said she thought it was about.

2014
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:52,030
Yeah. Oh. But I'd never heard it said. I'd always

2015
01:55:52,030 --> 01:55:54,110
seen the mark, but never heard it said. And then

2016
01:55:54,110 --> 01:55:56,800
it sounded stupid when I said it. Violence at NBC.

2017
01:55:56,800 --> 01:56:00,300
Just what is this main artery of the information superhighway?

2018
01:56:00,300 --> 01:56:03,800
Every business, no matter how large, no matter how small,

2019
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:06,120
will be on the internet in the year 2000. It's

2020
01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:09,120
the primary way that people will look up information. It

2021
01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:11,480
will replace the yellow pages as we know it today.

2022
01:56:11,620 --> 01:56:13,270
Are a lot of people just getting on to the

2023
01:56:13,270 --> 01:56:15,310
Internet because they feel that they have to get on

2024
01:56:15,310 --> 01:56:17,450
to the playing field, so to speak? Well, it's very

2025
01:56:17,450 --> 01:56:21,120
hip to be on the Internet right now. Violence at

2026
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:25,480
NBC, GE com. I mean, GE com. What Allison should

2027
01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:30,210
know. What do you say that Allison? Internet is that

2028
01:56:30,210 --> 01:56:34,220
massive computer network. The one that's becoming really big now.

2029
01:56:35,220 --> 01:56:37,000
What do you mean? How does one, what do you

2030
01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:39,440
write to it? Like mail? No, a lot of people

2031
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:41,930
use it and communicate. I guess they can communicate with

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01:56:41,930 --> 01:56:45,310
NBC writers and producers. Allison, can you explain what Internet

2033
01:56:45,310 --> 01:56:47,590
is? No, she can't say anything in 10 seconds or

2034
01:56:47,590 --> 01:56:51,540
less. Wow. I'm afraid that if I subscribed to something

2035
01:56:51,540 --> 01:56:54,130
like internet, you would really be hooked. I would get

2036
01:56:54,130 --> 01:56:57,840
hooked and I would never... you know, spend time with

2037
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:00,640
my family. Am I weird? Does it bother you at

2038
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:02,160
all that these are all people that you don't really

2039
01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:04,700
know? I mean, everybody's, you know, signing on and having

2040
01:57:04,700 --> 01:57:07,920
these conversations and whining together or griping together or whatever

2041
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:10,710
with people that, I mean, I don't know. It is

2042
01:57:10,710 --> 01:57:13,400
group therapy of the 90s. Well, I just, as I

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01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:15,110
mentioned, I have no desire to be a part of

2044
01:57:15,110 --> 01:57:17,980
the Internet because I feel like I'm so inundated with

2045
01:57:17,980 --> 01:57:21,720
information all the time that I don't really, I don't

2046
01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:25,380
want more. Don't you ever feel like it's just constant

2047
01:57:25,380 --> 01:57:28,200
bombardment? - I guess the thing I resent most is

2048
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:30,220
I would resent, you know, at least when you're home,

2049
01:57:30,220 --> 01:57:32,030
if the phone rings, you have the option of not

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01:57:32,030 --> 01:57:34,340
answering it. On the internet, people can send you messages

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01:57:34,340 --> 01:57:36,260
all the time you don't even want to hear from.

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01:57:36,260 --> 01:57:39,880
- I don't wanna. You know what's interesting about that

2053
01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:46,350
clip? What was that? 94. 94. They were using you

2054
01:57:46,350 --> 01:57:49,050
know back then, and we're still using that today when

2055
01:57:49,050 --> 01:57:53,530
we're explaining. My wife caught me. She listened to the

2056
01:57:53,530 --> 01:57:55,560
first show that I did, and she goes, yeah, it

2057
01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:58,240
was good, but I said you know a lot. I'm

2058
01:57:58,240 --> 01:58:02,700
like, you know you're right. Let me play that second

2059
01:58:02,700 --> 01:58:06,390
clip from the show. This is very similar when I

2060
01:58:06,390 --> 01:58:09,360
hear this ABC reporter. In order for Muse to work

2061
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:11,530
well, you do have to give it access to your

2062
01:58:11,530 --> 01:58:15,210
other apps and information, including your credit card or payment

2063
01:58:15,210 --> 01:58:17,380
info if you want it to shop and buy for

2064
01:58:17,380 --> 01:58:20,580
you. We built a secure credential store for your passwords

2065
01:58:20,580 --> 01:58:24,220
and credit cards, so Muse can't read this information. Muse

2066
01:58:24,220 --> 01:58:39,900
also checks directly with you before T-Rex. We'll be right

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01:58:39,900 --> 01:58:52,120
back. and then permissions. Click Always Ask before any action

2068
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:56,250
and Always Ask before accessing any website. Then, go to

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01:58:56,250 --> 01:58:59,520
data controls where you can turn off the feature where

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01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:02,480
your info is shared to, quote, help improve Meta's AI

2071
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:06,090
models. Yes. Also, click on connectors, and for each app

2072
01:59:06,090 --> 01:59:09,980
you've connected, choose how much access to give Muse. There

2073
01:59:09,980 --> 01:59:13,330
have already been allegations that Muse has violated a user's

2074
01:59:13,330 --> 01:59:17,650
privacy and gone beyond that user's instructions. Meta disputes those

2075
01:59:17,650 --> 01:59:20,060
claims. We'll have much more on all of that coming

2076
01:59:20,060 --> 01:59:22,190
up today on Action News at 4. I will tell

2077
01:59:22,190 --> 01:59:25,440
you from my part, I have now disconnected my Gmail

2078
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:28,550
from Muse. I know that they say that it's safe,

2079
01:59:28,550 --> 01:59:30,690
but I just don't feel that comfortable yet. There it

2080
01:59:30,690 --> 01:59:34,300
is. It's the same thing. But she feels comfortable having

2081
01:59:34,300 --> 01:59:38,780
a Gmail account. Right. But Gmail's okay. It's not like

2082
01:59:38,780 --> 01:59:42,440
Google's reading through it, which they clearly state they do.

2083
01:59:43,360 --> 01:59:46,960
Yeah. But hey, let's, you know, Muse, I don't want

2084
01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:52,200
my Facebook device talking to my Gmail device. Interesting. So

2085
01:59:52,200 --> 01:59:55,920
anyway, I have a new there's a new sickness out

2086
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:59,270
there that I didn't know exists. You've heard of PTSD,

2087
01:59:59,270 --> 01:59:59,660
right?

2088
02:00:00,060 --> 02:00:06,720
Yes. Okay, now there's PSSD. It's, I guess, affecting millennials

2089
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:10,090
and Gen Zers. Oh, yes. They're over-medicated. Yes, I think

2090
02:00:10,090 --> 02:00:12,880
we've heard about this. Is this something with sexual desire?

2091
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:16,940
Yeah. I hadn't heard of this. And it's some young

2092
02:00:16,940 --> 02:00:20,700
lady who basically looks like a... She's now an automaton,

2093
02:00:20,700 --> 02:00:23,320
zero emotion in her face when she's talking, and she

2094
02:00:23,320 --> 02:00:26,720
suffers from this. My name is Lauren Friedman. I've become

2095
02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:30,550
an unintentional advocate for psychiatric medication harm. I have a

2096
02:00:30,550 --> 02:00:35,120
condition called PSSD, which stands for post-SSRI sexual dysfunction, which

2097
02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:37,750
I'm sure anyone who's familiar with SSRIs knows that they

2098
02:00:37,750 --> 02:00:41,270
cause sexual dysfunction. And it's pretty common. It's honestly more

2099
02:00:41,270 --> 02:00:43,720
likely that you'll get sexual dysfunction than actually feel your

2100
02:00:43,720 --> 02:00:47,460
anxiety or depression lessen. But What patients are not told

2101
02:00:47,460 --> 02:00:49,940
is that for some people, these side effects aren't side

2102
02:00:49,940 --> 02:00:52,600
effects, but they're just permanent damage. And it's not just

2103
02:00:52,600 --> 02:00:55,440
the libido. Some people think it's a full nervous system

2104
02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:58,030
injury in which people can no longer feel their genitals

2105
02:00:58,030 --> 02:01:00,830
at all, can't orgasm forever, and they lose their libidos

2106
02:01:00,830 --> 02:01:04,770
entirely, which is essentially like a chemically induced asexuality that

2107
02:01:04,770 --> 02:01:10,630
just never goes away. That happens. I can't feel like

2108
02:01:10,630 --> 02:01:14,180
sexual attraction. Can't even feel like romance. I can't watch

2109
02:01:14,180 --> 02:01:17,480
a rom-com and feel romantic attraction or be moved in

2110
02:01:17,480 --> 02:01:21,340
any way anymore. Oh, no. This is very old information.

2111
02:01:21,340 --> 02:01:24,720
This has already been fixed. You just take GLP-1 and

2112
02:01:24,720 --> 02:01:27,320
it solves this problem. Well, I thought that did it

2113
02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:29,670
too. I'm just kidding. I think we had – is

2114
02:01:29,670 --> 02:01:31,980
this the lady who says she can't even hug her

2115
02:01:31,980 --> 02:01:35,260
kids? Is that the same lady? No, she's 23 years

2116
02:01:35,260 --> 02:01:37,230
old. I don't think she has kids. She found out

2117
02:01:37,230 --> 02:01:38,880
she had it when she was 21, but she was

2118
02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:40,850
on – her parents gave her – there's you know

2119
02:01:40,850 --> 02:01:44,920
again. She said she was getting SSRIs as a kid.

2120
02:01:45,040 --> 02:01:48,140
Oh, wow. And to treat whatever. Well, you know, she

2121
02:01:48,140 --> 02:01:51,050
was nervous. Who knows? She didn't like to talk and

2122
02:01:51,050 --> 02:01:53,450
show and tell. Yeah. And so they put her on

2123
02:01:53,450 --> 02:01:56,710
this. And now she's basically, you know, just in an

2124
02:01:56,710 --> 02:02:00,880
emotionless meat suit. walking around. It's sad. But yet the

2125
02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:05,460
data centers are the problem. PCD can also cause emotional

2126
02:02:05,460 --> 02:02:07,880
numbness or like permanent emotional numbness where you can no

2127
02:02:07,880 --> 02:02:12,080
longer feel positive emotions like pleasure in music, love for

2128
02:02:12,080 --> 02:02:14,870
your family, comfort in your bed. It's just like a

2129
02:02:14,870 --> 02:02:17,270
full nervous system injury in which basically all of the

2130
02:02:17,270 --> 02:02:20,350
best parts of humanity are taken from you. Um, so

2131
02:02:20,350 --> 02:02:24,150
I, upon getting this condition, I got it at 20,

2132
02:02:24,150 --> 02:02:27,440
21, I'm 23 now. Um, and I was just immediately

2133
02:02:27,440 --> 02:02:29,900
very, very horrified that this was allowed to happen to

2134
02:02:29,900 --> 02:02:31,980
me without my consent because PSSD is not even in

2135
02:02:31,980 --> 02:02:36,160
the drug labels. There's no, um, There's no warning beforehand.

2136
02:02:36,340 --> 02:02:38,640
People are just completely blindsided by their doctors and are

2137
02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:42,120
often gaslit by their doctors saying this isn't possible because

2138
02:02:42,120 --> 02:02:44,340
the doctors aren't trained. Yeah, we had some clips we

2139
02:02:44,340 --> 02:02:46,690
played in April of this year. This is the one

2140
02:02:46,690 --> 02:02:50,700
about the kids. I've seen it's about one in 216.

2141
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:53,780
which is a lot if you consider that 15% of

2142
02:02:53,780 --> 02:02:56,720
the U.S. population is on these. But it's not super

2143
02:02:56,720 --> 02:03:00,450
common. But for some people, their sexual functioning does not

2144
02:03:00,450 --> 02:03:04,060
return afterwards. And on top of that, they develop a

2145
02:03:04,060 --> 02:03:09,180
toxicity where they start to have – intense dissociation and

2146
02:03:09,180 --> 02:03:12,520
brain fog. And the way they describe the emotional sort

2147
02:03:12,520 --> 02:03:15,320
of blunting and dissociation is like, if I were to

2148
02:03:15,320 --> 02:03:17,900
hug my kid or like my partner, I don't feel

2149
02:03:17,900 --> 02:03:20,570
any warmth or connection. If I were to hear... My

2150
02:03:20,570 --> 02:03:23,350
favorite song from my childhood that used to give me

2151
02:03:23,350 --> 02:03:26,020
prickles down the back of my neck. Like, that's fun.

2152
02:03:26,120 --> 02:03:28,350
It's like music doesn't sound right. They almost feel like

2153
02:03:28,350 --> 02:03:32,690
lobotomized and like disconnected. This is so sad. This is

2154
02:03:32,690 --> 02:03:35,680
so sad. And I think it's more than the SSR.

2155
02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:38,160
Data centers are the problem. Data centers. It's data centers.

2156
02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:41,060
Just blame it on the data center. I think it's

2157
02:03:41,060 --> 02:03:45,020
social media, not enough going outside, which leads me to,

2158
02:03:45,020 --> 02:03:47,750
I think my, probably my, well, I have two clips

2159
02:03:47,750 --> 02:03:50,260
I'd like to get to before. Of course. Before I

2160
02:03:50,260 --> 02:03:52,680
get out. And then I do have an ISO. Yeah,

2161
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:55,060
of course. I want it all, brother. I want it

2162
02:03:55,060 --> 02:03:57,820
all. Actually, play the ISO now if it's short. Let

2163
02:03:57,820 --> 02:04:02,650
me see. ISO. ISO. Here we go. Awesome. You're going

2164
02:04:02,650 --> 02:04:05,740
to have to compete with my ISO. What do you

2165
02:04:05,740 --> 02:04:10,190
got? Well, it seems as though, President. Oh, shoot. I

2166
02:04:10,190 --> 02:04:15,450
screwed up my ISO. You exported the wrong thing. I

2167
02:04:15,450 --> 02:04:18,940
did. I exported the wrong piece. Wait, I think it's...

2168
02:04:18,940 --> 02:04:21,180
No, actually, your bot did the wrong piece. My bot

2169
02:04:21,180 --> 02:04:25,380
did it wrong, yes. There is a parallel. That's bananas.

2170
02:04:25,680 --> 02:04:29,060
That was my ISO. That's bananas, but I can't believe

2171
02:04:29,060 --> 02:04:31,600
I... No, I know what I did. I did... Hold

2172
02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:35,140
on. I'm not with this. ...of Watergate. Vice President J.D.

2173
02:04:35,140 --> 02:04:39,520
Vance seemed to... Where is the... ...break? Trump administration. There

2174
02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:41,970
is a parallel. Ah, well, it's going to be your

2175
02:04:41,970 --> 02:04:44,330
ISO then, dude. You got it. There it is. I

2176
02:04:44,330 --> 02:04:47,400
exported. That wasn't my robot. That was me. I exported.

2177
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:50,310
See? My robot's better. I should have said robot. You

2178
02:04:50,310 --> 02:04:54,400
forgot how to export clips. What am I doing? It's

2179
02:04:54,400 --> 02:04:58,650
happening. What is this? It's happening. I've got podcaster dissociation

2180
02:04:58,650 --> 02:05:04,700
syndrome. Take more data center. Yeah. Well, let's see. I'm

2181
02:05:04,700 --> 02:05:07,820
trying to find it now. It's the one about, let's

2182
02:05:07,820 --> 02:05:10,060
see, it was the first clip I dumped out. Which

2183
02:05:10,060 --> 02:05:14,980
was interesting. This clip, body temp decline study. And what's

2184
02:05:14,980 --> 02:05:17,430
interesting about this clip, I brought it into my editor

2185
02:05:17,430 --> 02:05:19,920
and it looked fine. And then I dragged it down

2186
02:05:19,920 --> 02:05:22,220
to the timeline and the audio wouldn't show up. I'm

2187
02:05:22,220 --> 02:05:24,380
like, that's weird. It was the only clip that did

2188
02:05:24,380 --> 02:05:25,950
this. And they all came from X. And this is

2189
02:05:25,950 --> 02:05:27,790
the only clip that the audio didn't show up, just

2190
02:05:27,790 --> 02:05:30,540
the video. Hmm. So I do what I normally do.

2191
02:05:30,600 --> 02:05:32,580
I open it up in QuickTime, export it in QuickTime.

2192
02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:35,840
Still got the audio? QuickTime. Oh, QuickTime. Yeah, that's a

2193
02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:41,560
little small fix. Check the calendar, dude. FFMPEG, man. It's

2194
02:05:41,560 --> 02:05:44,980
good for those things. When you deal with these codecs

2195
02:05:44,980 --> 02:05:46,940
and nothing wants to talk to each other. So I

2196
02:05:46,940 --> 02:05:49,570
pull that in. Still didn't work. Then I ran it

2197
02:05:49,570 --> 02:05:52,600
through Handbrake, which is another. No, no. Let me give

2198
02:05:52,600 --> 02:05:57,000
you the tool. VLC. That's the tool. I have VLC.

2199
02:05:57,320 --> 02:05:59,390
It doesn't – you know, VLC doesn't like Macs that

2200
02:05:59,390 --> 02:06:01,430
well. It always acts weird on it, but I do

2201
02:06:01,430 --> 02:06:03,630
have it, and I can't export things on it. But

2202
02:06:03,630 --> 02:06:06,280
Handbrake, I did it there. It didn't work again. And

2203
02:06:06,280 --> 02:06:08,540
what did I end up – no, actually, Handbrake, it

2204
02:06:08,540 --> 02:06:10,930
did work. Handbrake was the thing that did work, and

2205
02:06:10,930 --> 02:06:12,380
then I pulled it in, and then I was able

2206
02:06:12,380 --> 02:06:17,200
to get the clip. Yeah. So try real player. But

2207
02:06:17,200 --> 02:06:21,500
yeah. See you, see me. There we go. Dot vid.

2208
02:06:23,120 --> 02:06:26,620
All right. But anyway, what's going on? And this, I

2209
02:06:26,620 --> 02:06:29,050
think, is... Part of the problem with these other people

2210
02:06:29,050 --> 02:06:31,360
are taking with this non emotion stuff, our our body

2211
02:06:31,360 --> 02:06:35,600
temperatures are basically lowering, I think, because we spend too

2212
02:06:35,600 --> 02:06:38,890
much time indoors looking at screens and not not outside

2213
02:06:38,890 --> 02:06:42,100
playing. But this is now this guy's documented that he's

2214
02:06:42,100 --> 02:06:45,120
an independent researcher. But I thought it was very interesting.

2215
02:06:45,700 --> 02:06:48,510
Hello, everyone. My name is Matthew Cormier, and today I'm

2216
02:06:48,510 --> 02:06:51,090
here to present my review article on the decline of

2217
02:06:51,090 --> 02:06:54,260
human body temperatures happening around the world and the implications

2218
02:06:54,260 --> 02:06:57,000
on the chronic illness epidemic. The title of my paper

2219
02:06:57,000 --> 02:07:00,240
is The Global Decline of Human Body Temperature, Evidence for

2220
02:07:00,240 --> 02:07:03,860
a Metabolic and Immunological Crisis, and it's published in the

2221
02:07:03,860 --> 02:07:06,870
latest issue of the Journal of Independent Medicine. For over

2222
02:07:06,870 --> 02:07:10,360
a century, the statistical average for human body temperature was

2223
02:07:10,360 --> 02:07:14,400
98.6 degrees Fahrenheit. But we've been seeing a steady decline,

2224
02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:18,700
and the new average is 97.7 degrees Fahrenheit. We're all

2225
02:07:18,700 --> 02:07:21,120
getting colder. In the same time frames that our body

2226
02:07:21,120 --> 02:07:24,610
temperatures have been declining, the rates of chronic illness have

2227
02:07:24,610 --> 02:07:27,650
been rapidly rising. We're all getting colder. Currently, 50% of

2228
02:07:27,650 --> 02:07:31,200
children and 70% of adults now meet the criteria for

2229
02:07:31,200 --> 02:07:34,700
having one chronic illness. A person's body temperature is an

2230
02:07:34,700 --> 02:07:39,330
accurate biomarker of immune activity and metabolic function. That's why

2231
02:07:39,330 --> 02:07:41,720
it's known as a vital sign. When it comes to

2232
02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:44,910
immune function, a large body of research suggests that a

2233
02:07:44,910 --> 02:07:48,630
person's body temperature provides a thermal exclusion zone against opportunistic

2234
02:07:48,630 --> 02:07:53,910
infections. Heat is a natural defense against viruses, parasites, bacteria,

2235
02:07:53,910 --> 02:07:58,130
and fungal infections. The lowering of a person's body temperature

2236
02:07:58,130 --> 02:08:01,870
is associated with a reduction in cell-mediated immune responses, which

2237
02:08:01,870 --> 02:08:05,720
may be leading to persistent or chronic infections. Declining body

2238
02:08:05,720 --> 02:08:09,800
temperature also indicates a lowering of basal metabolic rate. And

2239
02:08:09,800 --> 02:08:13,990
lower basal metabolic rate is linked to insulin resistance and

2240
02:08:13,990 --> 02:08:17,400
metabolic disease. In the same time frame that our body

2241
02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:21,210
temperatures have been declining, the prevalence of diabetes diagnoses have

2242
02:08:21,210 --> 02:08:26,980
been rapidly rising. Worldwide, diabetes diagnoses have increased from 200

2243
02:08:26,980 --> 02:08:33,859
million in 1990 to 830 million in 2022. Currently, only

2244
02:08:33,859 --> 02:08:37,219
about 12% of American adults meet the criteria for being

2245
02:08:37,219 --> 02:08:42,230
metabolically healthy. Research suggests that chronic exposure to heavy metal

2246
02:08:42,230 --> 02:08:45,390
toxins, as well as the use of prescription antibiotics, may

2247
02:08:45,390 --> 02:08:48,360
be directly contributing to the decline in body temperatures we're

2248
02:08:48,360 --> 02:08:52,370
experiencing. The documented decline of human body temperature and the

2249
02:08:52,370 --> 02:08:57,060
implications on the chronic illness epidemic represents an under-recognized public

2250
02:08:57,060 --> 02:09:01,350
health concern. My article is available now at the Journal

2251
02:09:01,350 --> 02:09:07,150
of Independent Medicine dot org. Oh, it worked. I knew

2252
02:09:07,150 --> 02:09:12,640
you'd pull it out eventually. Of course. Of course. Yeah.

2253
02:09:12,940 --> 02:09:16,240
Yeah. Yeah. That's not good. Eat beef. No, but, you

2254
02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:21,060
know, I think it's very interesting with, I think our

2255
02:09:21,060 --> 02:09:24,340
society's gone indoors a lot more than it used to

2256
02:09:24,340 --> 02:09:27,130
be. And... So I don't think you see these same

2257
02:09:27,130 --> 02:09:30,700
problems in people who are working outside. It's the data

2258
02:09:30,700 --> 02:09:36,600
centers, Rob. Stop. Inside, not going to kill you. GLP-1,

2259
02:09:36,600 --> 02:09:39,150
not going to kill you. Over-medication, not going to kill

2260
02:09:39,150 --> 02:09:42,320
you. Measles, well, might kill you. It's the data centers

2261
02:09:42,320 --> 02:09:45,310
that are going to kill you. That's it. It's who

2262
02:09:45,310 --> 02:09:48,620
runs the data centers. Oh, they're killing us. Yes. Okay.

2263
02:09:49,340 --> 02:09:52,190
All right. Let's see. We didn't really get into the

2264
02:09:52,190 --> 02:09:54,190
Cornell thing, but I think that's going to be the

2265
02:09:54,190 --> 02:09:58,240
new culture war. I know you hate talking about these,

2266
02:09:58,240 --> 02:10:00,690
but this is the new culture war. I'm actually happy

2267
02:10:00,690 --> 02:10:04,280
you brought this because I've stayed away from it. Tina

2268
02:10:04,280 --> 02:10:08,940
has been keeping me up to speed. she ignores all

2269
02:10:08,940 --> 02:10:12,180
news but when something comes across she's like hmm you've

2270
02:10:12,180 --> 02:10:14,470
heard about this yeah i heard about it she says

2271
02:10:14,470 --> 02:10:17,330
you know there's a lot of things that aren't being

2272
02:10:17,330 --> 02:10:20,040
said it's left and right she said i really want

2273
02:10:20,040 --> 02:10:22,770
to know more and it's dribs it's almost like the

2274
02:10:22,770 --> 02:10:24,980
fly dubai thing so i'm happy to listen to it

2275
02:10:24,980 --> 02:10:27,000
i'm glad you brought it so yes i think you're

2276
02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:29,500
right this This is part of the new culture war.

2277
02:10:30,300 --> 02:10:32,640
Well, it's taken place in the Lindsay Clancy trial. Like

2278
02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:34,980
that's kind of gone away. So we need something new.

2279
02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:37,580
We do. To find. And this is the next version.

2280
02:10:37,680 --> 02:10:41,340
But I also remember, because I have a memory. Thanks

2281
02:10:41,340 --> 02:10:45,730
to Grok. Episode 72, titled Duke Power of MoFax with

2282
02:10:45,730 --> 02:10:50,750
Adam Curry, talking about the Duke lacrosse rape. Yes. Well,

2283
02:10:50,750 --> 02:10:53,890
that's exactly what Tina brought up. She said, I'm real

2284
02:10:53,890 --> 02:10:56,550
careful ever since the Duke lacrosse case. She says, I'm

2285
02:10:56,550 --> 02:10:59,060
real careful about just jumping the gun on that. Yes.

2286
02:10:59,750 --> 02:11:02,430
And so it's got the same type of feel, even

2287
02:11:02,430 --> 02:11:05,880
though it's not a lacrosse team. It's a fraternity. And

2288
02:11:05,880 --> 02:11:08,710
now, back then, they didn't have all these text messages

2289
02:11:08,710 --> 02:11:12,430
like they do now. But there's these Snapchats that they're

2290
02:11:12,430 --> 02:11:14,560
able to access and – I had to talk with

2291
02:11:14,560 --> 02:11:16,310
my son. I'm like, hey, man, listen, if anything ever

2292
02:11:16,310 --> 02:11:20,220
happens, certainly don't Snapchat about it. Throw your phone in

2293
02:11:20,220 --> 02:11:26,120
the water. Yeah, crush it because these things are safe.

2294
02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:29,680
Good fatherly advice. Hey, son, if you do anything like

2295
02:11:29,680 --> 02:11:34,260
really crazy, don't Snapchat it, okay? Well, and what –

2296
02:11:34,370 --> 02:11:36,620
And when you hear about the whole incident, you're like,

2297
02:11:36,620 --> 02:11:39,090
oh, my God, these kids. I can't believe that. But

2298
02:11:39,090 --> 02:11:42,070
this has probably been going on forever. People have been

2299
02:11:42,070 --> 02:11:44,600
doing drugs and – you know, having sex. That was

2300
02:11:44,600 --> 02:11:47,310
all through the 80s, pretty much, people doing that. Well,

2301
02:11:47,310 --> 02:11:49,420
that's why we got AIDS. You know, we invented AIDS.

2302
02:11:49,560 --> 02:11:51,730
Ah, okay, can't do that anymore. And, I mean, you

2303
02:11:51,730 --> 02:11:54,180
look at the frat parties back then, it was probably

2304
02:11:54,180 --> 02:11:56,990
way worse. But this is a situation. And so, I

2305
02:11:56,990 --> 02:11:59,640
guess two years ago, a prosecutor said, no, I'm not

2306
02:11:59,640 --> 02:12:01,970
going to bring charges against these guys. Right. Even the

2307
02:12:01,970 --> 02:12:04,230
girl said it seemed like it was consensual, and I

2308
02:12:04,230 --> 02:12:06,790
agreed to it, and she didn't have a problem with

2309
02:12:06,790 --> 02:12:08,950
it. And then two years later, boom, we have all

2310
02:12:08,950 --> 02:12:11,830
this. But what's interesting is obviously the reaction from the

2311
02:12:11,830 --> 02:12:14,820
people on the outside. Yes, that's always what it is.

2312
02:12:15,160 --> 02:12:17,810
So what I've got, I think maybe let's listen to

2313
02:12:17,810 --> 02:12:21,780
AOC. I think these all start with Cornell. So Cornell.

2314
02:12:21,920 --> 02:12:25,140
Oh, no. Do I have not? I got Cornell. Oh,

2315
02:12:25,140 --> 02:12:26,860
is it there? Okay. I got it. I got it.

2316
02:12:26,860 --> 02:12:32,120
Here we go. Let's do AOC. AOC's take. Seven men

2317
02:12:32,120 --> 02:12:39,650
drugged and gang raped a 20-year-old woman. They lured her

2318
02:12:39,650 --> 02:12:44,060
in to a fraternity house. They drugged her with ketamine.

2319
02:12:44,900 --> 02:12:48,280
They then posted to a group chat that she was

2320
02:12:48,280 --> 02:12:53,840
incapacitated, and seven men took turns gang-raping her for seven

2321
02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:59,900
hours. Are those facts? That sounds really bad, doesn't it?

2322
02:12:59,900 --> 02:13:02,410
Yes, it does. It does. Sounds like we should get

2323
02:13:02,410 --> 02:13:05,620
her or get those boys. And then you go, let's

2324
02:13:05,620 --> 02:13:08,760
look at Sunny Hostin's view, who's from The View, and

2325
02:13:08,760 --> 02:13:12,820
you would think she's probably lockstep with AOC. Well, not

2326
02:13:12,820 --> 02:13:17,360
necessarily. It's several pages long. I know. It's nine pages

2327
02:13:17,360 --> 02:13:20,370
long. And I will say that under current New York

2328
02:13:20,370 --> 02:13:24,970
state law, voluntary intoxication or drug use, and she voluntarily

2329
02:13:24,970 --> 02:13:29,760
drank a lot. She voluntarily took snorted ketamine off of

2330
02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:33,260
one of the boys' body parts. She also she was

2331
02:13:33,260 --> 02:13:36,640
highly intoxicated when she arrived at the frat house. She

2332
02:13:36,640 --> 02:13:39,380
was highly intoxicated, but had made plans to meet one

2333
02:13:39,380 --> 02:13:42,910
of the boy young men. She all she allowed other

2334
02:13:42,910 --> 02:13:48,050
boys and consented to other boys snorting ketamine off of

2335
02:13:48,050 --> 02:13:53,350
her body. And under New York law. Voluntary intoxication or

2336
02:13:53,350 --> 02:13:57,180
drug use that merely impairs judgment does not legally constitute

2337
02:13:57,180 --> 02:14:00,930
an inability to consent to sexual activity. Right. So that

2338
02:14:00,930 --> 02:14:06,790
means if you voluntarily ingest drugs, you voluntarily take alcohol,

2339
02:14:06,790 --> 02:14:11,480
you can agree to have threesomes, which. In her statement,

2340
02:14:11,480 --> 02:14:15,130
she agreed to have two separate threesomes. One boy did

2341
02:14:15,130 --> 02:14:17,960
walk in. One young man did walk in and say,

2342
02:14:17,960 --> 02:14:21,700
everybody out. So there was one person that did that.

2343
02:14:22,320 --> 02:14:25,180
And according to her statement, three of the young men

2344
02:14:25,180 --> 02:14:28,860
did not touch her. And so I say all that.

2345
02:14:28,860 --> 02:14:30,720
The thing I wonder, Sunny, is. But I say all

2346
02:14:30,720 --> 02:14:35,050
that. to say the pictures of these young men who

2347
02:14:35,050 --> 02:14:38,930
have not been charged, not been adjudicated, are being plastered

2348
02:14:38,930 --> 02:14:42,450
all over the Internet. I think people are reporting this

2349
02:14:42,450 --> 02:14:47,000
story inaccurately. I think they're reporting it unfairly. And while

2350
02:14:47,000 --> 02:14:49,220
this is something that we have to take very seriously,

2351
02:14:49,220 --> 02:14:52,720
there is no way, according to her statement in 2024,

2352
02:14:52,720 --> 02:14:57,120
that any prosecutor would have brought. But she was intoxicated.

2353
02:14:57,280 --> 02:14:59,470
How did she under New York law again under New

2354
02:14:59,470 --> 02:14:59,960
York?

2355
02:15:00,020 --> 02:15:05,190
Law, voluntary intoxication, if you voluntarily drink 10 beers and

2356
02:15:05,190 --> 02:15:12,010
you voluntarily ingest ketamine, but that intoxication. That doesn't have

2357
02:15:12,010 --> 02:15:14,350
anything to do with the fact that the guys attacked

2358
02:15:14,350 --> 02:15:17,770
her, whether she's drunk or not. Well, according to her

2359
02:15:17,770 --> 02:15:21,600
statement, she says she did. They did not attack her.

2360
02:15:21,700 --> 02:15:28,120
Her statement in 2024, she consented to the sexual activity.

2361
02:15:28,280 --> 02:15:31,150
She consented to it according to her own statement in

2362
02:15:31,150 --> 02:15:35,200
2024. Now, I prosecuted sex crimes for 10 years. I

2363
02:15:35,200 --> 02:15:37,940
believe women. I am not saying that we shouldn't believe

2364
02:15:37,940 --> 02:15:40,780
her. But in 2024, she said one thing. And now

2365
02:15:40,780 --> 02:15:46,720
in 2026, she's saying another thing. I blame... The data

2366
02:15:46,720 --> 02:15:51,960
centers. Yeah, there you go. But now who's getting involved?

2367
02:15:52,200 --> 02:15:54,220
Now our friend Letitia James is getting involved. Oh, yes.

2368
02:15:54,220 --> 02:15:57,960
Hochul appointed her. Yeah, of course. It's a great little

2369
02:15:57,960 --> 02:16:00,240
back and forth with a reporter because they ask her

2370
02:16:00,240 --> 02:16:02,900
about a Facebook post she made. And and then hope

2371
02:16:02,900 --> 02:16:05,710
was like, I'll answer that question. And you could hear

2372
02:16:05,710 --> 02:16:08,630
how hopeful answers the question, which is a non-answer, of

2373
02:16:08,630 --> 02:16:11,290
course. But I thought the attorney general on your Facebook

2374
02:16:11,290 --> 02:16:13,490
page three days ago, you wrote what this young woman

2375
02:16:13,490 --> 02:16:16,290
has been forced to endure is horrific and unacceptable. I'm

2376
02:16:16,290 --> 02:16:18,620
holding her in my heart and in my prayers to

2377
02:16:18,620 --> 02:16:21,250
her. And to all survivors, you're not alone. We stand

2378
02:16:21,250 --> 02:16:25,420
with you. Why did you affirm her allegations as fact

2379
02:16:25,420 --> 02:16:28,900
without doing your own fact-finding investigations to the governor? Why

2380
02:16:28,900 --> 02:16:32,930
did you appoint an official who made a public statement

2381
02:16:32,930 --> 02:16:36,660
affirming those allegations as fact as someone who's supposed to

2382
02:16:36,660 --> 02:16:39,710
be doing an investigation? I will answer that. I have

2383
02:16:39,710 --> 02:16:42,800
every confidence in our attorney general to do what she

2384
02:16:42,800 --> 02:16:46,240
has always done. Look at the facts, examine the record,

2385
02:16:46,240 --> 02:16:49,480
and draw the proper conclusions. That's exactly what's going to

2386
02:16:49,480 --> 02:16:52,850
happen in this case. I will not comment on a

2387
02:16:52,850 --> 02:16:58,930
Facebook post. I thought that was ballsy for her to

2388
02:16:58,930 --> 02:17:02,900
say that. And then I guess the last one, Camille

2389
02:17:02,900 --> 02:17:06,160
Paglia. Oh, I'm not sure if she was talking about

2390
02:17:06,160 --> 02:17:10,620
this situation in general or the Believe All Women movement.

2391
02:17:10,620 --> 02:17:12,950
This could have been a Me Too thing. But she's

2392
02:17:12,950 --> 02:17:15,970
basically saying, look, there's she's talking about New York. So

2393
02:17:15,970 --> 02:17:18,600
I think it is with with this case. But she's

2394
02:17:18,600 --> 02:17:23,360
basically saying, look, we can't protect people from making stupid

2395
02:17:23,360 --> 02:17:26,810
actions, essentially. But it's in two parts. We don't have

2396
02:17:26,810 --> 02:17:28,100
to play both of them. But the first part is

2397
02:17:28,100 --> 02:17:30,180
not that. It's not that. Yeah. You don't think there's

2398
02:17:30,180 --> 02:17:32,220
a problem with sexual assault? Yeah. Because a lot of

2399
02:17:32,220 --> 02:17:34,850
women are coming forward now. No, in cases of real

2400
02:17:34,850 --> 02:17:37,840
rape, of course you should be prosecuted. Of course real

2401
02:17:37,840 --> 02:17:40,360
rape is a crime. But this is not real rape.

2402
02:17:40,360 --> 02:17:45,490
We've been arguing about dating encounters with miscommunications now for

2403
02:17:45,490 --> 02:17:49,870
decades. It's absolutely infantilizing to women. It must stop. But

2404
02:17:49,870 --> 02:17:52,640
you know that a lot of women are afraid of

2405
02:17:52,640 --> 02:17:56,230
sexual assault or have been sexually assaulted. Should they not

2406
02:17:56,230 --> 02:17:59,820
be able to go and drink and play beer pong

2407
02:17:59,820 --> 02:18:01,850
and get drunk like the guys do? They live in

2408
02:18:01,850 --> 02:18:05,810
fear. If you go to a fraternity house party... with

2409
02:18:05,810 --> 02:18:08,740
a chaos going on in the living room area, and

2410
02:18:08,740 --> 02:18:11,640
a young man says to you, would you like to

2411
02:18:11,640 --> 02:18:14,600
go up to my room? I'm sorry, okay, you are

2412
02:18:14,600 --> 02:18:17,460
consenting to sex. He is right to think you have

2413
02:18:17,460 --> 02:18:20,260
consented, okay, to go up there and change your mind

2414
02:18:20,260 --> 02:18:23,120
and so on. It's not right, of course, for anyone

2415
02:18:23,120 --> 02:18:27,640
to impose themselves sexually on another person, naturally, okay. But

2416
02:18:27,640 --> 02:18:31,400
women must realize they are now free. The sexual revolution

2417
02:18:31,400 --> 02:18:37,300
has been won. This is what you get. Paglia. She

2418
02:18:37,300 --> 02:18:39,820
always has a pretty nuanced way of looking at things.

2419
02:18:39,820 --> 02:18:41,320
I did not expect that from her when I saw

2420
02:18:41,320 --> 02:18:44,120
that. Yeah, we played Paglia a lot in the past.

2421
02:18:44,640 --> 02:18:48,200
Yeah. Let me see. She's definitely more common sense. Yeah.

2422
02:18:49,020 --> 02:18:51,630
Therefore, wrong. Let me see. When's the last time we

2423
02:18:51,630 --> 02:18:56,180
played her? Yeah. Paglia, Paglia, Paglia. It's been a while.

2424
02:18:56,440 --> 02:18:59,190
It's been at least 10 years. My goodness. We've done

2425
02:18:59,190 --> 02:19:01,920
a lot on this show. At the end of this,

2426
02:19:01,920 --> 02:19:03,620
she basically says, maybe we should just get rid of

2427
02:19:03,620 --> 02:19:07,670
men and women co-education places. Oh, there you go. Here

2428
02:19:07,670 --> 02:19:11,800
we are. Shouldn't men be afraid of the consequences of

2429
02:19:11,800 --> 02:19:15,820
this? We have laws on the books, okay, against rape,

2430
02:19:15,820 --> 02:19:19,080
okay? But the point is right now, okay? But everybody

2431
02:19:19,080 --> 02:19:21,560
in that world will tell you it's almost impossible for

2432
02:19:21,560 --> 02:19:24,150
women to have the strength to come forward to make

2433
02:19:24,150 --> 02:19:26,560
the case and so on. Oh, Lord, okay. We're going

2434
02:19:26,560 --> 02:19:30,120
to go on like this, making endless excuses for middle-class

2435
02:19:30,120 --> 02:19:34,140
girls, okay, confused, unsure of what they want. want. Perhaps

2436
02:19:34,140 --> 02:19:37,690
the sexual revolution should be reversed because what we're showing

2437
02:19:37,690 --> 02:19:41,460
is that perhaps co-education is a bad idea. Maybe today's

2438
02:19:41,460 --> 02:19:46,440
young women are not prepared for co-education. Yeah, I've never

2439
02:19:46,440 --> 02:19:50,400
liked this whole frat stuff either. This whole hazing thing.

2440
02:19:50,640 --> 02:19:52,940
Oh, yeah. All this stuff is so lame. I was

2441
02:19:52,940 --> 02:19:55,310
not. I went to college. I was not a fraternity

2442
02:19:55,310 --> 02:19:58,200
guy. I didn't even really go to the parties. And

2443
02:19:58,200 --> 02:20:03,600
probably because – I had seen the movie Animal House,

2444
02:20:03,600 --> 02:20:05,470
the Revenge of the Nerds, and my idea of it

2445
02:20:05,470 --> 02:20:07,420
was just like, what am I going to do here?

2446
02:20:07,500 --> 02:20:09,690
Just get blitzed out drunk? I knew I was going

2447
02:20:09,690 --> 02:20:11,500
to be one of the nerd guys. I'm like, I

2448
02:20:11,500 --> 02:20:13,250
don't want to go to a party like that. They're

2449
02:20:13,250 --> 02:20:15,210
going to do something bad to me. They're going to

2450
02:20:15,210 --> 02:20:18,260
haze me. I went to college for one semester, and

2451
02:20:18,260 --> 02:20:22,210
I pledged kappa with the black guys. Oh, really? I

2452
02:20:22,210 --> 02:20:24,460
carried a book. Rick, yeah, I was the white shadow

2453
02:20:24,460 --> 02:20:27,100
because I wasn't white. I was from Amsterdam, you see.

2454
02:20:27,720 --> 02:20:31,200
And I came in. I remember my roommate, Ty, Ty

2455
02:20:31,200 --> 02:20:35,500
Hamilton. He was a black kid from Trenton, New Jersey.

2456
02:20:35,660 --> 02:20:38,020
And I remember him coming in. He's like, oh, brother,

2457
02:20:38,020 --> 02:20:40,600
look at this cracker. Got a white guy. Yeah. And

2458
02:20:40,600 --> 02:20:43,250
he's got his boom box. I had my boom box

2459
02:20:43,250 --> 02:20:45,660
and I put in a tape and because I could

2460
02:20:45,660 --> 02:20:49,130
just come from Amazon. Let the music play. Shannon, he's

2461
02:20:49,130 --> 02:20:53,060
like. Whoa. No Lynyrd Skynyrd, huh? I said, no, man.

2462
02:20:53,240 --> 02:20:56,760
This is what we're playing in Amsterdam. We connected on

2463
02:20:56,760 --> 02:20:59,880
that. And then I was DJing at the parties. And

2464
02:20:59,880 --> 02:21:02,150
it was, I tell you, a lot of respect. We

2465
02:21:02,150 --> 02:21:05,020
got this white guy on the disc. Curry, the white

2466
02:21:05,020 --> 02:21:09,250
shadow on the wheels of steel. That's right, baby. That's

2467
02:21:09,250 --> 02:21:13,900
right. I played just the last quick 13-second clip because

2468
02:21:13,900 --> 02:21:16,710
Colin Schultz sent it to me. It's a gem, a

2469
02:21:16,710 --> 02:21:21,280
No Agenda classic from episode 13. No. So this is

2470
02:21:21,280 --> 02:21:24,420
old, old, old. This is before I was born. This

2471
02:21:24,420 --> 02:21:31,690
is pre-do, and it relates to the many co-hosts that

2472
02:21:31,690 --> 02:21:34,110
we have had in the past two months here on

2473
02:21:34,110 --> 02:21:36,640
the show. And this is Adam and John talking about

2474
02:21:36,640 --> 02:21:40,450
Jason Calacanis. What's the difference between an escort and Jason

2475
02:21:40,450 --> 02:21:45,420
Calacanis? Well, I don't think that's a good example. Okay.

2476
02:21:46,340 --> 02:21:49,690
I was stretching a bit. But there might not be

2477
02:21:49,690 --> 02:21:56,890
a difference between those two. Classic. There is no difference

2478
02:21:56,890 --> 02:21:59,950
between those two. Beautiful. I don't even know what it

2479
02:21:59,950 --> 02:22:04,010
was about anymore. that's how long jay cal was in

2480
02:22:04,010 --> 02:22:06,390
my life was that like 2007 is that when that

2481
02:22:06,390 --> 02:22:10,520
was yeah maybe 2000 maybe just turning 2008 yeah okay

2482
02:22:10,520 --> 02:22:12,560
and jay cal was in my life back then that's

2483
02:22:12,560 --> 02:22:16,640
how long he's been around it's beautiful all right uh

2484
02:22:16,640 --> 02:22:20,660
sir ducifer my i got one final clip Go for

2485
02:22:20,660 --> 02:22:23,220
it. We have to play this one. This is the

2486
02:22:23,220 --> 02:22:28,530
Socialists Band. I think it starts with band. Socialist Band

2487
02:22:28,530 --> 02:22:32,460
Promo? Socialist Band Promo. Because every good socialist knows how

2488
02:22:32,460 --> 02:22:35,230
to promote their band. We are the neighborhood kids. We

2489
02:22:35,230 --> 02:22:37,240
are the neighborhood kids. Rest in peace to all the

2490
02:22:37,240 --> 02:22:41,120
martyrs. Rest in peace, Mary Morello. Free the world. Free

2491
02:22:41,120 --> 02:22:45,180
Palestine. Free Congo. Free Armenia. Free Sudan. And free everywhere

2492
02:22:45,180 --> 02:22:47,920
in the world from Western imperialism. We love you so

2493
02:22:47,920 --> 02:22:50,400
much. It's power to the people. We are the neighborhood

2494
02:22:50,400 --> 02:22:52,940
kids. And we got merch at that tent. We love

2495
02:22:52,940 --> 02:22:57,080
y'all so much. Thank you for being here. Thank you.

2496
02:22:57,260 --> 02:23:00,560
Viva la Revolución. Nothing says socialism like buy our merch.

2497
02:23:00,860 --> 02:23:03,990
Viva la Revolución. Buy our merch in the tent. Oh,

2498
02:23:03,990 --> 02:23:08,190
beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. All right, Rob. Thank you so much,

2499
02:23:08,190 --> 02:23:10,440
man. I really appreciate it when you come on. And

2500
02:23:10,440 --> 02:23:12,580
come on before the end of the month, one or

2501
02:23:12,580 --> 02:23:16,130
two more times maybe? Oh, yeah, yeah. I like having

2502
02:23:16,130 --> 02:23:19,310
the rotation. I think this is – We've got some

2503
02:23:19,310 --> 02:23:22,030
good co-hosts going on here. I'm for everybody. I think

2504
02:23:22,030 --> 02:23:24,530
everybody should get a chance to jump in here because

2505
02:23:24,530 --> 02:23:28,540
all the perspectives are really great. Horowitz sent me this.

2506
02:23:28,600 --> 02:23:31,120
He made an AI image, and it's all of us.

2507
02:23:31,220 --> 02:23:33,970
And it's like, podcast the movie. He says, this is

2508
02:23:33,970 --> 02:23:36,560
an idea, man. I'm like, are you kidding? What a

2509
02:23:36,560 --> 02:23:38,770
nightmare that would be. All of us on at the

2510
02:23:38,770 --> 02:23:41,890
same time? No, no, no, no. That's not going to

2511
02:23:41,890 --> 02:23:45,240
work. No one would get a word in edgewise. Exactly.

2512
02:23:45,600 --> 02:23:47,770
All right, brother. Have yourself a great Sunday. Thank you

2513
02:23:47,770 --> 02:23:50,160
again for coming on, Rob. So much appreciated. And one

2514
02:23:50,160 --> 02:23:52,300
last plug for my end of show mix is these

2515
02:23:52,300 --> 02:23:54,960
are all human made. We need more humans out there.

2516
02:23:55,100 --> 02:23:57,080
And my tip of the day is go. Go be

2517
02:23:57,080 --> 02:23:59,360
in a drum circle, even if you've never played a

2518
02:23:59,360 --> 02:24:01,910
drum. Drum circle, end of show, coming up. There he

2519
02:24:01,910 --> 02:24:06,220
goes, everybody, Sir Ducifer. No sponsor in the bloodstream. No

2520
02:24:06,220 --> 02:26:23,840
sponsor in the bloodstream. The rapper the Outro Music Cutters

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02:26:23,840 --> 02:26:27,080
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02:26:27,080 --> 02:26:31,240
spots. No audience in bleachers, where the cable's in the

2523
02:26:31,240 --> 02:26:36,270
wall. Small hands make a signal that's too distributed to

2524
02:26:36,270 --> 02:26:56,500
fall. We are the best. treasure whatever value looks like

2525
02:26:56,500 --> 02:27:02,380
to you you don't pay to hear no agenda Keep

2526
02:27:02,380 --> 02:27:10,900
no age and they're coming soon We'll be right back.

2527
02:27:30,900 --> 02:27:33,560
I don't know about you, but I can't help it.

2528
02:27:33,700 --> 02:27:35,710
I like it. I like it when the lyrics make

2529
02:27:35,710 --> 02:27:38,580
sense, when it's fun, when you listen to it. I've

2530
02:27:38,580 --> 02:27:42,420
just accepted my future. I can't help it anymore. Thank

2531
02:27:42,420 --> 02:27:45,330
you very much, Rob Ducifer. Of course, value for value

2532
02:27:45,330 --> 02:27:47,930
is indeed how you get the show, which means you

2533
02:27:47,930 --> 02:27:49,570
pay nothing for it. All you got to do to

2534
02:27:49,570 --> 02:27:51,260
keep it on the air is to send some value

2535
02:27:51,260 --> 02:27:54,920
back once in a while. Time, talent, or treasure. Bad

2536
02:27:54,920 --> 02:27:59,850
news. It looks like the noagendameetups.com. Let me check it

2537
02:27:59,850 --> 02:28:06,740
right now. noagendameetups.com server says, account suspended. This account has

2538
02:28:06,740 --> 02:28:10,300
been suspended. Contact your hosting provider for more information. This,

2539
02:28:10,300 --> 02:28:13,660
of course, is a travesty. We've been trying to reach

2540
02:28:13,660 --> 02:28:16,290
Sir Daniel. I haven't been able to get a hold

2541
02:28:16,290 --> 02:28:19,510
of them yet. This, of course, is the downside of

2542
02:28:19,510 --> 02:28:21,900
value for value when you don't control stuff. Like we

2543
02:28:21,900 --> 02:28:26,010
had a problem with noagendashow.net. Again, it's all value for

2544
02:28:26,010 --> 02:28:29,480
value. The show never would have been what it is

2545
02:28:29,480 --> 02:28:32,060
if we'd had to pay for bandwidth and pay for

2546
02:28:32,060 --> 02:28:35,500
all these services and paid for professionals to put things

2547
02:28:35,500 --> 02:28:38,930
together. Everybody has contributed. Void zero at the top of

2548
02:28:38,930 --> 02:28:42,020
the stack there, but also the guys who keep the

2549
02:28:42,020 --> 02:28:47,210
stream running, Sir Bemrose, just everybody. You know, the. pre-shows.

2550
02:28:47,210 --> 02:28:50,940
Darren, of course, miss him dearly on that pre-show. We've

2551
02:28:50,940 --> 02:28:56,700
got the professor now doing his show. So it's just

2552
02:28:56,700 --> 02:29:00,730
been fantastic to see this show grow the way it

2553
02:29:00,730 --> 02:29:04,440
has. And now with these guest co-hosts coming in to

2554
02:29:04,440 --> 02:29:07,180
figure out how we move forward with the show, whatever

2555
02:29:07,180 --> 02:29:09,040
that may be. They seem to be enjoying it, and

2556
02:29:09,040 --> 02:29:11,410
I certainly enjoy them. And thanks, Sir Ducifer, for coming

2557
02:29:11,410 --> 02:29:13,870
on. And I also want to thank Tyler Brown, who

2558
02:29:13,870 --> 02:29:15,890
has just been on a tear at No Agenda Art

2559
02:29:15,890 --> 02:29:19,520
Generator. dot com boom there's another one sir paul couture

2560
02:29:19,520 --> 02:29:22,460
uh put that up for us years and years and

2561
02:29:22,460 --> 02:29:25,350
years ago and it's still going strong appreciate him he

2562
02:29:25,350 --> 02:29:28,770
created the artwork as his time and talent for episode

2563
02:29:28,770 --> 02:29:35,730
1908 titled shivatican uh which andrew horowitz and i uh

2564
02:29:35,730 --> 02:29:40,620
coined as uh the chicago uh You know, we talked

2565
02:29:40,620 --> 02:29:42,460
about it like, should we do this art? You know,

2566
02:29:42,460 --> 02:29:45,220
well, the plane, no one died. So, yeah, we can

2567
02:29:45,220 --> 02:29:49,440
do that. And it was the plumber preventing the aircraft

2568
02:29:49,440 --> 02:29:55,500
from crashing. Same thing, just like these songs. You know,

2569
02:29:55,500 --> 02:29:58,100
it's like, yeah, I know you didn't spend hours on

2570
02:29:58,100 --> 02:29:59,940
it, but –

2571
02:30:00,100 --> 02:30:02,420
I looked at it and it made me laugh. What

2572
02:30:02,420 --> 02:30:05,190
can I do? Even if it is AI, you're a

2573
02:30:05,190 --> 02:30:09,130
prompting genius, Tyler Brown. Thank you very much. And as

2574
02:30:09,130 --> 02:30:11,590
always, we thank everybody. And by the way, nice to

2575
02:30:11,590 --> 02:30:16,970
see the trolls. We had 1,058 troll peakage, peak trollage

2576
02:30:16,970 --> 02:30:19,460
today, which is really nice. Good to see that. A

2577
02:30:19,460 --> 02:30:22,430
lot of people listening to those modern podcast apps, which

2578
02:30:22,430 --> 02:30:27,180
I continuously forget to plug, podcastapps.com. Or... You can go

2579
02:30:27,180 --> 02:30:32,560
to podcastindexrobot.com, put that into your favorite robot, and tell

2580
02:30:32,560 --> 02:30:35,350
it to monitor for when the show goes live. It

2581
02:30:35,350 --> 02:30:37,170
will tell you as well, and it will pop up

2582
02:30:37,170 --> 02:30:39,260
a player for you. If you don't use a modern

2583
02:30:39,260 --> 02:30:41,300
podcast app, you can play it right there in your

2584
02:30:41,300 --> 02:30:44,520
robot. I'm telling you. This stuff is happening. I've given

2585
02:30:44,520 --> 02:30:47,340
up the fight. I'm giving into it, but under my

2586
02:30:47,340 --> 02:30:50,800
own terms. So we always thank everybody who supports us

2587
02:30:50,800 --> 02:30:53,640
with the treasure, $50 and above. If you are able

2588
02:30:53,640 --> 02:30:56,600
to support us with $200 or more, you become an

2589
02:30:56,600 --> 02:30:59,930
associate executive producer of this episode. You get the credits

2590
02:30:59,930 --> 02:31:02,200
in the show notes, as it should be. And we

2591
02:31:02,200 --> 02:31:05,230
also get, well, we, I am guaranteed, I keep saying

2592
02:31:05,230 --> 02:31:10,310
that. Dvorak, where are you? We're guaranteed to read your

2593
02:31:10,310 --> 02:31:14,220
note, $300 or above, and you become an executive producer.

2594
02:31:14,320 --> 02:31:16,860
These credits are real Hollywood credits. You can use them

2595
02:31:16,860 --> 02:31:20,480
anywhere Hollywood credits are recognized. For instance, in Hollywood, West

2596
02:31:20,480 --> 02:31:23,580
Hollywood, give it a shot there, or on IMDb.com if

2597
02:31:23,580 --> 02:31:26,150
you're not that outgoing. So we start off with our

2598
02:31:26,150 --> 02:31:31,480
top supporters today, Matt from Nagano-ken, Japan. And loving this,

2599
02:31:31,480 --> 02:31:37,980
$436.75. And Matt says this donation is to cover the

2600
02:31:37,980 --> 02:31:41,060
JCD challenge coin and bring me up to the level

2601
02:31:41,060 --> 02:31:44,790
of a knight. This is fantastic. And now I don't

2602
02:31:44,790 --> 02:31:47,580
think Jay has put the challenge coin in the newsletter.

2603
02:31:47,580 --> 02:31:51,410
If you click on the... The PayPal link, the donation

2604
02:31:51,410 --> 02:31:54,610
link, it pops up. It's a beautiful coin. You see

2605
02:31:54,610 --> 02:31:58,010
the front and the back. It's a fantastic tribute to

2606
02:31:58,010 --> 02:32:02,340
JCD. I really love this coin. So the amount is

2607
02:32:02,340 --> 02:32:11,510
$388. $388.83. And so Matt will receive that. He says,

2608
02:32:11,510 --> 02:32:18,630
please christen me Sir Elixim of Naganishi. Okay, let me

2609
02:32:18,630 --> 02:32:22,530
try that again. Sir Elixim of Naganishi. Standard fare at

2610
02:32:22,530 --> 02:32:24,820
the round table suffice the mutton and me to standing

2611
02:32:24,820 --> 02:32:26,850
by no jingles no karma thank you for your courage

2612
02:32:26,850 --> 02:32:30,470
thanks yours truly Matt from North Carolina currently in the

2613
02:32:30,470 --> 02:32:33,610
southern Alps of Japan you should hook up with Mark

2614
02:32:33,610 --> 02:32:38,570
and Astrid. Count Stephen, $400.91. That is the challenge coin

2615
02:32:38,570 --> 02:32:41,500
plus the fees. He says, I miss John's takes the

2616
02:32:41,500 --> 02:32:44,940
same way I miss George Carlin. Great thinkers with attitudes

2617
02:32:44,940 --> 02:32:47,780
I never got to meet. Count Stephen of Winder and

2618
02:32:47,780 --> 02:32:51,140
the Great Smoky Mountains. Thank you, brother. Rick Olson, challenge

2619
02:32:51,140 --> 02:32:55,800
coin for him. Show listener from 2009 to 2020. I

2620
02:32:55,800 --> 02:32:58,760
fell off after COVID. I didn't have a commute anymore.

2621
02:32:58,920 --> 02:33:01,340
Hard to find the time. Absolutely gutted to hear of

2622
02:33:01,340 --> 02:33:05,880
Buzzkill's hardware failure. This challenge coin will always remain with

2623
02:33:05,880 --> 02:33:10,250
my Night Ring ITM citizens. Mark for trail challenge coin

2624
02:33:10,250 --> 02:33:13,700
for him. No note. Thank you, sir. Ahab challenge coin.

2625
02:33:13,820 --> 02:33:15,730
The recent shows have been great. I'd like the guests

2626
02:33:15,730 --> 02:33:17,970
who have been on with Adam. God bless. No agenda

2627
02:33:17,970 --> 02:33:21,880
nation and Godspeed. JCD. Sir codes a lot. Challenge coin

2628
02:33:21,880 --> 02:33:26,890
donation. Remembering John. He says Brock Reinholds, uh, No note,

2629
02:33:26,890 --> 02:33:30,220
but he'll get a challenge coin, as will Aaron Weisgerber

2630
02:33:30,220 --> 02:33:34,820
and Mark Alco-Serr. Alco-Serr, I'll say Alco-Serr, I think it

2631
02:33:34,820 --> 02:33:38,600
is. And there's Baroness Dame Cathy and Baron Sir Greg

2632
02:33:38,600 --> 02:33:43,000
Simonich. Simonich. Challenge coin. We'll have to send him two,

2633
02:33:43,000 --> 02:33:45,600
I think. Haven't donated in a long time, but a

2634
02:33:45,600 --> 02:33:48,460
coin to remember John is such a wonderful tribute. We

2635
02:33:48,460 --> 02:33:51,810
had to donate. Baroness Dame Cathy and Baron Sir Greg

2636
02:33:51,810 --> 02:33:56,440
Simonich. Jeff Zaba, Challenge Coin, ITM. Thanks for everything. And

2637
02:33:56,440 --> 02:34:03,440
he wants to deduce. You've been deduced. So. Marco D.

2638
02:34:03,440 --> 02:34:08,780
Magnanimous, challenge coin, Baron of Nutrier. He says, that's the

2639
02:34:08,780 --> 02:34:11,560
fees, of course, says, thank you for being there and

2640
02:34:11,560 --> 02:34:15,000
for providing your biweekly analysis that will help us wade

2641
02:34:15,000 --> 02:34:20,150
through this world-stealing, steaming pile of excrement. No jingles, no

2642
02:34:20,150 --> 02:34:23,620
karma. Donation done. Move on to the next producer. I

2643
02:34:23,620 --> 02:34:31,610
love you. I love my truck. lean north in overland

2644
02:34:31,610 --> 02:34:36,120
park kansas kansas yes four hundred dollars uh pretty sure

2645
02:34:36,120 --> 02:34:39,590
that's a challenge coin for you sir tigger max 388

2646
02:34:39,590 --> 02:34:42,920
83 i will cherish this coin it's a perfect memento

2647
02:34:42,920 --> 02:34:45,600
i hope that somewhere on the back there's a small

2648
02:34:45,600 --> 02:34:48,070
npr logo with a forbid sign over there's a lot

2649
02:34:48,070 --> 02:34:52,650
of symbolism on this coin for sure I love the

2650
02:34:52,650 --> 02:34:56,100
way he ranted about those useful idiots. ITM forever, Sir

2651
02:34:56,100 --> 02:35:01,850
Tigger Max. Eric Reinhardt, Carborough, North Carolina, 38883. The show

2652
02:35:01,850 --> 02:35:04,350
is not the same without John. Alas, a challenge coin

2653
02:35:04,350 --> 02:35:07,070
will suffice in place of his quips and timely boomer

2654
02:35:07,070 --> 02:35:09,830
humor. God bless Noah Jen the Nation, and may he

2655
02:35:09,830 --> 02:35:13,940
have pity for all the douchebags out there. Tyler Darrington

2656
02:35:13,940 --> 02:35:16,620
also gets a challenge going, ITM Adam, I fell behind

2657
02:35:16,620 --> 02:35:18,770
on the show due to travel this summer. I was

2658
02:35:18,770 --> 02:35:21,140
sitting on the patio at my Airbnb in Kauai when

2659
02:35:21,140 --> 02:35:24,980
the newsletter came out announcing JCD's passing. I was shocked.

2660
02:35:25,380 --> 02:35:27,570
I told my wife and neither of us could believe

2661
02:35:27,570 --> 02:35:31,090
it. We listened live to parts of 1888. I listened

2662
02:35:31,090 --> 02:35:34,840
to 1888 and 1889 out of order, then caught up.

2663
02:35:34,920 --> 02:35:37,180
During all of this, I realized I had donated enough

2664
02:35:37,180 --> 02:35:39,700
to claim my knighthood. I've been a monthly donor since

2665
02:35:39,700 --> 02:35:43,140
February of 2023. I'm a Joe No Mo listener. Brogan

2666
02:35:43,140 --> 02:35:46,910
donation. The show got our families through the shamdemic and

2667
02:35:46,910 --> 02:35:49,520
has helped me calm down and see through the BS.

2668
02:35:49,910 --> 02:35:52,830
Adam, I have loved following your journey to Christ. Thank

2669
02:35:52,830 --> 02:35:55,620
you for keeping the show going after JCD's passing. We

2670
02:35:55,620 --> 02:35:58,320
all appreciate you keeping us sane. Please knight me Sir

2671
02:35:58,320 --> 02:36:01,580
Tyler, Keeper of the Bees, and please have Temple Rolls

2672
02:36:01,580 --> 02:36:05,290
and Schwip Schwop at the round table. The challenge coin

2673
02:36:05,290 --> 02:36:06,840
looks great, and I can't wait to add it to

2674
02:36:06,840 --> 02:36:12,940
my collection. No jingles, no karma, just prayers and RIPJCD.

2675
02:36:13,240 --> 02:36:16,040
I actually forgot to get you the prayers, but I

2676
02:36:16,040 --> 02:36:21,900
can get that for you right now. Prayers. There we

2677
02:36:21,900 --> 02:36:31,410
go. You've got... Prayers. Prayers. 38883 from Robert Shepard. He

2678
02:36:31,410 --> 02:36:34,640
will receive a challenge coin. Mark from Benton Mountain, Virginia.

2679
02:36:35,280 --> 02:36:38,420
38883 ITM. The donation is from me, but the challenge

2680
02:36:38,420 --> 02:36:40,770
coin will be for my smoking hot wife, Brenda, for

2681
02:36:40,770 --> 02:36:43,580
her birthday on October 6th. She actually hit me in

2682
02:36:43,580 --> 02:36:46,030
the mouth over six years ago, and we haven't missed

2683
02:36:46,030 --> 02:36:48,340
a show since. Happy birthday to the most loving and

2684
02:36:48,340 --> 02:36:51,080
amazing wife and mother. I couldn't imagine. imagine going on

2685
02:36:51,080 --> 02:36:54,570
this journey with anyone else. I'm truly blessed. Brenda's also

2686
02:36:54,570 --> 02:36:57,330
a bit overdue for a layaway daming, so I'd like

2687
02:36:57,330 --> 02:37:02,200
her dame drink wine forevermore if the committee so approves.

2688
02:37:02,280 --> 02:37:05,840
Of course, she'd love Prosecco and some form of charcuterie

2689
02:37:05,840 --> 02:37:09,280
at the round table. A single deduction would be appreciated

2690
02:37:09,280 --> 02:37:14,900
for us both. We'll share it. You've been de-douched. Music.

2691
02:37:14,900 --> 02:37:17,820
What better way to honor her birthday than with JCD's

2692
02:37:17,820 --> 02:37:20,220
coin and damehood from the best producers in the universe.

2693
02:37:20,400 --> 02:37:22,780
Thank you for your courage. Keep on keeping on. Mark

2694
02:37:22,780 --> 02:37:26,740
in Bent Mountain, Virginia, jingles. For Brenda, all hell's going

2695
02:37:26,740 --> 02:37:28,940
to break loose. You're going to need a Bitcoin. And

2696
02:37:28,940 --> 02:37:31,440
for me, fisting nuts. You know, we haven't played the

2697
02:37:31,440 --> 02:37:33,780
fisting nuts properly in a while, so let's do both.

2698
02:37:33,780 --> 02:37:37,880
Yeah. They're saying that all hell is gonna break loose

2699
02:37:37,880 --> 02:37:43,200
and you're gonna need a Bitcoin. John, tell us your...

2700
02:37:43,200 --> 02:37:46,660
about the fisting method of eating snacks on an airplane.

2701
02:37:47,000 --> 02:37:49,520
I see this on the airplane, and it's very annoying,

2702
02:37:49,640 --> 02:37:52,160
and I think it will result in fights breaking out

2703
02:37:52,160 --> 02:37:55,020
because it's just so annoying to watch. Guy takes his

2704
02:37:55,020 --> 02:37:58,360
bag of peanuts and he throws a pile of them

2705
02:37:58,360 --> 02:38:02,160
into his palm of his hand, and then he makes

2706
02:38:02,160 --> 02:38:06,650
a fist around the nuts. around the nuts. And then

2707
02:38:06,650 --> 02:38:09,440
he shakes his fist to try to bring a nut

2708
02:38:09,440 --> 02:38:12,640
to the little hole. Stop. To the little hole. And

2709
02:38:12,640 --> 02:38:16,340
then he throws a nut in his mouth from his

2710
02:38:16,340 --> 02:38:19,640
fist. From his fist. Then he does it again. He

2711
02:38:19,640 --> 02:38:24,100
shakes and throws and shakes and throws. It is annoying

2712
02:38:24,100 --> 02:38:29,140
as hell to watch. Stop. Thank you. Linda Lupatkin is

2713
02:38:29,140 --> 02:38:32,100
in Castle Rock, Colorado, and she comes with $200 and

2714
02:38:32,100 --> 02:38:35,510
she wants Jobs Karma. And she says, AI can write

2715
02:38:35,510 --> 02:38:39,760
your resume. Problem is, it can write everyone else's too.

2716
02:38:39,900 --> 02:38:43,500
This is correct. Linda helps professionals and executives figure out

2717
02:38:43,500 --> 02:38:46,940
what makes them different, what makes them valuable, and turns

2718
02:38:46,940 --> 02:38:49,030
that value into a new resume. into a resume that

2719
02:38:49,030 --> 02:38:53,240
gets results. You want these results? Go to ImageMakersInc.com. That's

2720
02:38:53,240 --> 02:38:56,400
ImageMakersInc with a K. And Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs

2721
02:38:56,400 --> 02:39:00,450
and writer of winning resumes because your resume should do

2722
02:39:00,450 --> 02:39:05,740
more than just look good. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

2723
02:39:05,940 --> 02:39:12,100
Let's vote for jobs. You've got jobs. And there's Sir

2724
02:39:12,100 --> 02:39:15,510
Scotty K. from Lakeshore, Minnesota. $200. I'm going to have

2725
02:39:15,510 --> 02:39:21,010
to shorten your notes now, Sir Scotty, Sir Scotty, because

2726
02:39:21,010 --> 02:39:25,150
you are making them real long. Bot Commander in the

2727
02:39:25,150 --> 02:39:27,140
morning to you, Adam, Sir Ducifer, and the rest of

2728
02:39:27,140 --> 02:39:29,440
Gitmo Nation. This is Sir Scotty K., your royal AI

2729
02:39:29,440 --> 02:39:32,540
whisperer. That's right. You heard me, Sir Scotty K. I

2730
02:39:32,540 --> 02:39:34,360
just wanted to say thank you to everyone who has

2731
02:39:34,360 --> 02:39:37,650
hopped in to try out our AI home and business

2732
02:39:37,650 --> 02:39:41,400
automation system called Bot Commander. The response has been fantastic.

2733
02:39:41,600 --> 02:39:43,760
And here's his back story because this is a value

2734
02:39:43,760 --> 02:39:46,940
for value project. We do support those. About five years

2735
02:39:46,940 --> 02:39:49,150
ago, my wife and I started my neighbor to love

2736
02:39:49,150 --> 02:39:52,220
coalition to help end homelessness in our area. We both

2737
02:39:52,220 --> 02:39:55,420
had adult children who had experienced homelessness and fell through

2738
02:39:55,420 --> 02:39:58,240
the gaping holes in our system. So we felt compelled

2739
02:39:58,240 --> 02:40:02,180
by the good Lord. Hallelujah. To do something to help.

2740
02:40:02,320 --> 02:40:05,560
So far, we've built four buildings and 35 units and

2741
02:40:05,560 --> 02:40:08,630
have more to go. Wow. This is in Minnesota. Bot

2742
02:40:08,630 --> 02:40:11,240
Commander was created to give people a free and easy

2743
02:40:11,240 --> 02:40:13,760
way to take advantage of the advancements in AI, to

2744
02:40:13,760 --> 02:40:16,520
organize their personal lives, and even start a business from

2745
02:40:16,520 --> 02:40:20,230
scratch. 5% of all donations and profits from Bot Commander

2746
02:40:20,230 --> 02:40:23,780
go to the My Neighbor to Love Coalition. You can

2747
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get details on it at mntlc.org. 501c3 nonprofit. Help out

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you send value back if you get value out of

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by a trillion-dollar effective altruism Silicon Valley Corporation. Help a

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at botcom.ai. You know the rest of the story. is

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the podcast father no it's pod father thank you oh

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by the way that concludes our executive and associate executive

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producers for episode 1909 Oh boy, I'm messing up. We

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appreciate you. And remember, those titles you got, they are

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real. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit

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people in the mouth. You. Whoa! Shut up, play. Shh.

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There we go. Now we're at $100 from Baron Ladekin

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from Houston, Texas. We got a Bitcoin donation, $99.06. Thank

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you. Don't know who it's from. Theodora Surla in San

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Marcos, California. $93.64 needs a deduce. You've been deduced. And

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as always, with $80.08, please. Put it in the calculator.

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You'll get it. The boob donation. Sir Kevin McLaughlin, the

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Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs, he says.

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$60.09. Well, that's lopsided. Brian Furley, double nickels on the

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dime, $55.10. David Oliver from Calistoga, California. He says, nobody

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will replace JCD. However, I love the new format and

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rotating guests. More do. Long live JCD. And here are

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the 50s already. James Sharametta from Napanach, New York. Foster

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Birch from New York, New York. Alexander Zavala, Sir Alexander

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from Kyle, Texas. And that's it. The rest we will

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not read because under $50 we never read for reasons

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of anonymity. But I do see those $49.99s or $33.33s,

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the 1111s, the 1212s. All of it is incredibly important.

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Welcome and we're very grateful that you continue to support

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the Curry and Dvorak families with your value for value

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and just for keeping No Agenda Nation together. If you

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want to support the show with your treasure, go to

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noagendadonations.com. You can put in any number, any amount. That's

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the beauty of value for value. Whatever value you got

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out of it and $5. could be an incredible amount

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for you. It is appreciated the same as $500, maybe

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nothing to somebody else. It's all appreciated. You can even

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set up a recurring donation, any amount, any frequency, anytime

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you want. Noagenda at donations.com. It's a birthday, birthday, birthday.

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And we have two birthdays. Mark says happy birthday to

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his wife, Brenda. She'll be celebrating on Tuesday, October 6th.

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And Kevin wishes his daughter, Aniston, a very happy birthday.

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She is turning 10 years old. So, of course, we

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say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast

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in the universe. And now the following people will receive

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the coveted Noah Jenner. of JCD.com. Challenge coin. I need

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some window dressing for this. I need a challenge coin.

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Somebody hop on the Sunos and give me some challenge

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coin stuff. Matt from North Carolina. Count Stephen. Rick Olson.

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Mark Futrell. Sir Ahab. Sir Codesalot. Brock Reinhold. Aaron Weisgerber.

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Sir Greg Simonich. Jeff Zaba, Sir Marco D. Magnanimous, Lee

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North, Sir Trigger Max, Eric Reinhardt, Tyler Darrington, Robert Shepard,

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and Mark in Bent Mountain, Virginia, along, of course, with

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Brenda. And thank you all so very much. Continue to

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go to knowagendadonations.com to find out more. Of course, now

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we do have one dame and two knights to bring

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up on the podcast. I got my sword. I'm all

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by myself.

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but it doesn't make it any less official. Brenda in

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Bent Mountain, Virginia. Tyler Darrington and Matt, hop up on

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the podium. All three of you are about to become

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Knights and Dame of the Noah Jenner Roundtable. I hereby

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pronounce the K-T-E-S. Dame Drinkwine. Sir Tyler, Keeper of Bees,

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and Sir Alex M. of Naganashi. For you, we've got

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Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay. We've got Temple

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Rolls and Schwib Shrop, Prosecco and Charcuterie. Along with that,

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Bongheads and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Ginger and Gerbils,

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Breast No. Welcome, Pavlom, and always. The mutton and the

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me. Go to noagendarings.com. I think we have... the challenge

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coin up there as well. If not, I'll make sure

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it is, and it will go out in the newsletter

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so you all can see it. Subscribe to the newsletter.

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And please, you brand new dame and two knights, go

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to noagenderrings.com. Use the handing ring sizing guide. We'll send

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off that beautiful signet ring to you so you can

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show everybody that you are a knight or a dame

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of the Noagenderings. and a round table. You hit them

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in the mouth, it'll leave a lasting mark. Or you

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can use the wax that we add to the package

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and seal your important correspondence with it. It's old school,

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it's beautiful, people love it, and it always comes with

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a certificate of authenticity. Thank you all for supporting the

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No Agenda Show. No Agenda Meetups! Okay, so this... All

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that we have for today is the meetup that is

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02:46:33,470 --> 02:46:37,510
underway, the Indy NA Tri-State Short and Long Barrel Safety

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Meetup. I hope it's not raining like it is here

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in Texas. I hope you're having a great time. That's

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Dame Maria and Sir Mark of the Greenwood. I expect

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02:46:44,760 --> 02:46:48,760
a bang-up. Meetup report from them. And so I don't

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know what else is coming up this week, but I

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can tell you on the 9th of October, Los Benos,

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California. Three meetups on the 10th of October, Fort Wayne,

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Indiana, Eagle, Idaho, and Soquel, California. The 15th, Charlotte, North

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02:47:00,080 --> 02:47:03,880
Carolina, Scottsdale, Arizona on the 16th. Long Beach, California on

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02:47:03,880 --> 02:47:07,440
the 17th. Fredericksburg, Texas. That's our backyard here at Bar

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02:47:07,440 --> 02:47:10,280
17. with J6 or Jenny. It's going to be a

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02:47:10,280 --> 02:47:14,130
hootenanny. Join us for that. A hootenanny. Orlando, Florida on

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the 21st. Los Altos, California on the 24th. And Tilburg,

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02:47:17,560 --> 02:47:21,880
the Netherlands, also on the 24th of October. Keep checking

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02:47:21,880 --> 02:47:24,420
noagenda meetups.com. Hopefully we'll get that thing back up and

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02:47:24,420 --> 02:47:27,480
running so that everybody can continue to schedule their noagenda

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02:47:27,480 --> 02:47:30,180
meetups. If not, keep checking. Checking in with the show

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02:47:30,180 --> 02:47:32,730
so you know exactly where you can go to your

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meetup. And if you can't find one near you, you

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can always start one yourself. It is very simple. Soon

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to be back up. NoagendaMeetups.com. Sometimes you want to go

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hang out with all the nights and days. Be where

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you won't be. Drink it on hell's the blame. You.

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Everybody feels the same It's like a party. All right,

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that's it, everybody. I'm not quite sure what's coming up

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02:48:05,020 --> 02:48:07,760
next. I was hoping... Oh, it's bowl after bowl. Oh,

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02:48:07,760 --> 02:48:14,560
is it live? Maybe not. Okay, that'll be Sir Spencer

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02:48:14,560 --> 02:48:17,410
and Dame DeLorean. That is next on your No Agenda

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stream. You can always go check out... The Podcasting 2.0

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podcast if you want to hear about the podcastindexrobot.com. And

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of course, Wednesday, there will be another We Get to

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02:48:30,500 --> 02:48:32,740
Do This. Pastor Jimmy and I taking a look at

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02:48:32,740 --> 02:48:36,420
the news in the world through a biblical lens. If

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02:48:36,420 --> 02:48:40,140
you are a believer or Christ-curious, you are welcome over

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02:48:40,140 --> 02:48:43,580
there in Get To Nation. And I will, of course,

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02:48:43,580 --> 02:48:46,280
be back on Thursday. I don't know who's going to

2882
02:48:46,280 --> 02:48:50,200
be co-hosting, so I'll let you know. ASAP, I've got

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02:48:50,200 --> 02:48:52,460
to get on the stick with this booking stuff. I

2884
02:48:52,460 --> 02:48:55,000
never signed up for that. End of show mixes. We

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02:48:55,000 --> 02:49:00,170
have, let me see, Melody. We'll kick it off, though,

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02:49:00,170 --> 02:49:06,320
with... Sir Dusifer's drum circle. What could possibly go wrong?

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02:49:08,380 --> 02:49:11,320
I'll see you next time, everybody. Until then, remember us

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02:49:11,320 --> 02:49:17,040
at noagendadonations.com. As always, a hooey hooey. Adios, mofos. And

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such. I'll give you just one guess Always me. Purpose

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and functionality. Mind the Bulls coming from the office door

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I'll clean the mess up later. Just don't black and

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02:51:58,210 --> 02:52:03,600
white. JCD's office looks like mine.