1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,520 They take it as truth they take it as true take it as truth. 2 00:00:03,210 --> 00:00:04,140 Truth destroyed, 3 00:00:04,170 --> 00:00:08,160 destroyed computers destroy computers. Adam curry, John C. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,730 Dvorak. Thursday, December 19 2013. Time Period Gitmo 5 00:00:11,730 --> 00:00:15,030 nation media assassination episode 575. 6 00:00:15,270 --> 00:00:17,070 This is no agenda, 7 00:00:18,090 --> 00:00:20,040 reading the report and recommendations of the 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,530 President's Review Group on Intelligence and Communications 9 00:00:22,530 --> 00:00:26,430 Technology so you don't have to hear and feel region six in the 10 00:00:26,430 --> 00:00:28,140 morning. I'm Adam curry. 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,340 And for brother Silicon Valley where it's sunny, it's cold, and 12 00:00:32,340 --> 00:00:35,640 everything is going great for the locals. I'm John C. Dvorak. 13 00:00:36,540 --> 00:00:37,260 Dragwon. 14 00:00:37,260 --> 00:00:38,070 Buzzkill. 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,960 We're happy everything's going great for the locals. 16 00:00:46,710 --> 00:00:48,900 Going great for the locals. Wow. 17 00:00:50,220 --> 00:00:54,300 Yeah, since everyone there is rich, living it up Silicon 18 00:00:54,300 --> 00:00:54,840 Valley. 19 00:00:56,850 --> 00:01:00,150 I'm one is reflecting that. Apparently. It's just horrible. 20 00:01:00,180 --> 00:01:05,700 I'm lucky to be here. I'm lucky to be alive. I'm so sick. This 21 00:01:05,700 --> 00:01:06,570 is this is now 22 00:01:06,570 --> 00:01:08,430 you're still sick. Wait a minute. You were sick on the 23 00:01:08,430 --> 00:01:09,030 last show? 24 00:01:09,060 --> 00:01:12,030 I didn't tell. I only told you after the show that I was sick. 25 00:01:12,030 --> 00:01:13,830 I didn't even tell you during the show. Because? 26 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,980 No, because you sound fine. And you sound fine. Now I think 27 00:01:16,980 --> 00:01:17,550 you're faking it. 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,810 Yeah. Here's what happened one week ago, after the show on 29 00:01:21,810 --> 00:01:26,910 Thursday. I went to a fundraising event for ham, the 30 00:01:26,910 --> 00:01:35,190 Health Alliance ham, it's h a m am Pam harm, harm, harm. The 31 00:01:35,190 --> 00:01:39,300 Health Alliance for Austin musicians which gives gives 32 00:01:39,330 --> 00:01:42,900 health care to 1000s of Austin musicians who are poor and on 33 00:01:42,900 --> 00:01:46,230 the street. Even those who aren't on the street can't 34 00:01:46,230 --> 00:01:50,730 afford it. And I got sick some someone gave me something some 35 00:01:50,730 --> 00:01:54,690 horrible bug and it really should kiss. Not just 36 00:01:54,690 --> 00:01:56,640 handshaking, kissing is not where your 37 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,860 handshake is worse handshake. And 38 00:01:58,890 --> 00:02:03,000 so it was really really bad. And you know it was in my head 39 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,210 sinuses and then we did the show on Sunday and I kind of 40 00:02:06,210 --> 00:02:10,920 collapsed after the show. I've been in bed and really weird 41 00:02:10,920 --> 00:02:14,460 like my back hurt and my my lungs are congested. And then 42 00:02:14,460 --> 00:02:17,580 this report comes in yesterday from Houston, the only 43 00:02:17,730 --> 00:02:18,750 on 11 News. 44 00:02:20,580 --> 00:02:22,680 Police officials here with the health department are on a 45 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,100 mission to find out more about this mystery, flu like illness. 46 00:02:26,100 --> 00:02:28,740 They don't want to scare the public but there is no question 47 00:02:28,740 --> 00:02:31,950 this is serious. And it's raising both questions and 48 00:02:31,950 --> 00:02:36,060 concerns. So far, there are eight confirmed victims and four 49 00:02:36,060 --> 00:02:40,560 of those patients have died. They range in age from 41 to 68. 50 00:02:40,830 --> 00:02:43,740 Now here's the thing, baffling doctors all of these patients 51 00:02:43,860 --> 00:02:47,700 have had flu like and or pneumonia like symptoms and all 52 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:51,270 have tested negative for the flu sources are telling us tonight 53 00:02:51,270 --> 00:02:54,570 that two of the surviving patients are being treated at 54 00:02:54,570 --> 00:02:58,350 Conroe Regional Medical Centre and are very sick. We are being 55 00:02:58,350 --> 00:03:01,020 told that doctors at this hospital and others in 56 00:03:01,020 --> 00:03:04,200 montgomery county are being advised to use extra precaution 57 00:03:04,410 --> 00:03:08,130 to prevent this from spreading. Sources say this illness also 58 00:03:08,130 --> 00:03:11,310 appears to be causing kidney failure at this point. We do not 59 00:03:11,310 --> 00:03:14,790 know if any of these patients had pre existing conditions. The 60 00:03:14,790 --> 00:03:17,340 montgomery county health department is waiting on more 61 00:03:17,340 --> 00:03:20,400 conclusive test results hoping to get a better handle on 62 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,530 exactly what they are dealing with. There you 63 00:03:22,530 --> 00:03:26,190 go. Half of the people who have apparently what I have are dead. 64 00:03:27,210 --> 00:03:31,020 flu like symptoms between the flu. Yeah, between the ages of 65 00:03:31,020 --> 00:03:35,190 41 and 68. Kidney failure. I could keel over at any moment. 66 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,940 Right during the show. This would not be a good thing for 67 00:03:38,940 --> 00:03:40,050 the future of this show. 68 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,190 No, we're not. But have no fear. I have a condom over my mic. So 69 00:03:44,190 --> 00:03:46,710 I can't infect anyone on the show today. Everything should be 70 00:03:46,710 --> 00:03:50,100 okay. But I knew I need to get better. I get the kids coming 71 00:03:50,100 --> 00:03:52,590 tomorrow night then yeah, Christina is coming. Oh 72 00:03:52,590 --> 00:03:55,740 yeah, it's gonna be nuthouse here. It's going to be crazy. 73 00:03:55,860 --> 00:03:59,010 Let's the kids would kids. You talking about my kid Christina 74 00:03:59,010 --> 00:04:01,140 and her girlfriend. They're coming from Rotterdam. They're 75 00:04:01,140 --> 00:04:02,220 coming for two weeks. 76 00:04:02,340 --> 00:04:06,750 What happened? And I kid Dixon? What? Didn't you have a 77 00:04:06,750 --> 00:04:10,860 boyfriend and Dixon or something like that? Dylan? Dexter, 78 00:04:11,370 --> 00:04:14,760 Dexter, Dexter, they're having a Dexter. Dexter is 79 00:04:14,790 --> 00:04:18,480 Dixie is doing great actually. They're still very good friends. 80 00:04:18,870 --> 00:04:23,190 And they talk a lot and Dexter went from because it's very hard 81 00:04:23,190 --> 00:04:26,550 to find a job and he's he's very in England in the UK and very 82 00:04:26,550 --> 00:04:31,560 hard to find work. So he for a while was a Domino's Pizza 83 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,260 delivery. But of course, like all good Domino's Pizza 84 00:04:34,260 --> 00:04:37,230 delivery, he essentially delivered weed along with the 85 00:04:37,230 --> 00:04:40,410 pizza. And he did that for a while but he thought to step it 86 00:04:40,410 --> 00:04:46,800 up a bit and he started growing weed in like his dad's apartment 87 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:53,100 in London. Dexter is a very entrepreneurial and young man. 88 00:04:54,180 --> 00:04:55,020 Did he get busted? 89 00:04:56,130 --> 00:04:59,460 I think his dad busted him. But then he was like, Oh, I can't 90 00:04:59,460 --> 00:05:02,100 believe so. When was was growing weed in your apartment? Dad? 91 00:05:02,100 --> 00:05:07,500 That's not I guess he finally fessed up and just dexterous, 92 00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:13,020 funny. Yeah, we'd like Dexter. Well, there you go. But anyway 93 00:05:13,020 --> 00:05:16,170 that this is a weird I have I have a body buzz you know, my 94 00:05:16,170 --> 00:05:18,990 whole body is kind of buzzing so I don't know maybe I had a body 95 00:05:18,990 --> 00:05:24,450 buzz Yeah. Yeah, so my body's buzzing. Me buzz would you like 96 00:05:24,450 --> 00:05:28,290 your your fingertips and your your arms? Just buzz a little 97 00:05:28,290 --> 00:05:34,290 bit? Is this weird? Really? You've never heard of a body 98 00:05:34,290 --> 00:05:40,140 buzz? I'm sorry. Well, anyway, but I'm here and I spend all day 99 00:05:40,140 --> 00:05:40,800 in bed down 100 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,410 fine. So you don't have pneumonia? 101 00:05:44,070 --> 00:05:47,160 Well, pneumonia is the lung thing, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. 102 00:05:47,190 --> 00:05:50,490 Well, I had severe pain in my my shoulders and my lungs, and I 103 00:05:50,490 --> 00:05:52,680 have I'm coughing and it's congested. 104 00:05:53,700 --> 00:05:57,960 You sound fine. This can't be bad. By the way. This is the old 105 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,520 you sound fine, then you're dead. 106 00:06:00,150 --> 00:06:02,610 Can you just say I sound crappy. That made me feel much better. 107 00:06:03,030 --> 00:06:03,780 I'd be better 108 00:06:03,780 --> 00:06:06,900 idea. Jeez. Anyway, so I didn't know what they don't know what 109 00:06:06,900 --> 00:06:09,180 this is. It's just something like some crazy thing going 110 00:06:09,180 --> 00:06:12,180 around. I have no idea. Only in Texas. Well, it's 111 00:06:12,180 --> 00:06:14,310 Houston is where the report came from Sinaloa 112 00:06:14,310 --> 00:06:15,990 you're in Austin. So Oh, yeah, we're 113 00:06:15,990 --> 00:06:17,160 far enough away. Sure. 114 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,110 Were there any Houstonian musicians? 115 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,840 You know, it was it was a bunch of rich douchebags. And the 116 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:30,870 whole idea is to kind of extract money from them. I do the whole 117 00:06:30,870 --> 00:06:33,330 thing that I didn't like it at all. I didn't like how that went 118 00:06:33,330 --> 00:06:36,870 down. The whole thing was not not fun for me. I got to talk to 119 00:06:36,870 --> 00:06:39,660 these people. I'm not going to participate. If it's like that. 120 00:06:40,020 --> 00:06:43,710 It's we don't need to go into it. But I you know, I tried to 121 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:47,130 spend some time on some some charity, you know, we tried to 122 00:06:47,130 --> 00:06:47,880 do something. 123 00:06:48,780 --> 00:06:50,640 And it was not I was gonna kill you. 124 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,300 Can you just give me a read for a second? Because there's I got 125 00:06:54,300 --> 00:06:57,090 a home on you. That is crazy. I want to see if I can get rid of 126 00:06:57,090 --> 00:06:57,300 it. 127 00:06:57,510 --> 00:07:00,300 I don't know. It could be any home. I mean, it could be from 128 00:07:00,300 --> 00:07:02,820 anything because I'm over on the other side of the plates. It 129 00:07:02,820 --> 00:07:07,200 could be the machine hum and it could be I don't know. Here's 130 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,480 the kind of for people out there. Listen to the show. We 131 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,360 got a few. Let me give you a little clip tease. All right. We 132 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,200 got coming up anti American Mid Pacific on Russia today. All 133 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:16,950 right, no one cares. 134 00:07:17,310 --> 00:07:21,360 And we're fine. I think it's on your end. I don't know what's 135 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,520 going on. It doesn't. It's not all that bad. 136 00:07:23,700 --> 00:07:27,810 I mean, it's buzzing to me. Rooms buzzing alright. So what 137 00:07:27,810 --> 00:07:29,820 should you maybe do? Maybe your body buzz 138 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,240 could be the body buzz. All right. So where do you want to 139 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,540 start? Because I already teased what I've been doing what I 140 00:07:36,870 --> 00:07:41,850 spent yesterday, struggle, really ploughing through 308 141 00:07:41,850 --> 00:07:45,540 pages of the report and recommendations of the 142 00:07:45,540 --> 00:07:47,940 President's Review Group on Intelligence and Communications 143 00:07:47,940 --> 00:07:48,960 Technologies. 144 00:07:49,710 --> 00:07:52,560 Which is kind of weird to start with that. I have a couple of 145 00:07:52,620 --> 00:07:56,100 little I did some reading myself and I have a couple of things to 146 00:07:56,100 --> 00:08:00,180 go into. But yours is probably what did you like is more like 147 00:08:00,180 --> 00:08:02,520 what what is your read Oscar Wilde? 148 00:08:03,210 --> 00:08:09,270 No, I read the the the indicted or the court case that said that 149 00:08:09,270 --> 00:08:11,250 the NSA was violating the Constitution. 150 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,360 Good. Let's start there. And let me just to get everyone all 151 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:21,660 clued in Hold on a second. I have this. I have a clip to set 152 00:08:21,660 --> 00:08:22,590 us up. And then I want to 153 00:08:22,950 --> 00:08:25,980 get your clip to set it up. I want to play my clip to set it 154 00:08:25,980 --> 00:08:33,360 up because my my thought went to a dead end. All right. Well, 155 00:08:33,690 --> 00:08:33,930 well, 156 00:08:34,229 --> 00:08:36,569 I'm glad you read that complaint because I haven't here's my 157 00:08:36,569 --> 00:08:37,529 setup. A federal 158 00:08:37,530 --> 00:08:41,220 judge in Washington ruled today that the government's collection 159 00:08:41,220 --> 00:08:44,730 of phone records of millions of Americans is likely 160 00:08:44,730 --> 00:08:48,480 unconstitutional. It is the first time that a federal court 161 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,110 has ruled against the once secret surveillance programme, 162 00:08:52,350 --> 00:08:56,250 which was exposed by National Security Agency leaker Edward 163 00:08:56,250 --> 00:09:00,780 Snowden. In a blistering attack, Judge Richard Leon said he has 164 00:09:00,780 --> 00:09:04,560 little doubt that the author of our Constitution, James Madison, 165 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,150 would be aghast at what Judge Leon said amounts to an 166 00:09:09,150 --> 00:09:10,650 unreasonable search. 167 00:09:11,070 --> 00:09:13,290 Okay, that's my setup. What is yours? 168 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:17,580 Well, mine is Glen. Glen. Glen. Glen when I fall who was an 169 00:09:17,580 --> 00:09:20,310 appalling you know, Obama bot extraordinaire, since you wrote 170 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:23,490 a book on him. Yes. And so I heard this clip and then I went 171 00:09:23,490 --> 00:09:26,400 and listened to he had a similar cup to one you played from 172 00:09:26,430 --> 00:09:30,420 France van cat, where the guy goes, he quotes from the from 173 00:09:30,420 --> 00:09:34,200 the complaint, which actually discusses, the guy does say it 174 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,470 sounds it's Orwellian. Yes, that's in the complaint, right. 175 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:40,410 It's in the complaint, so the French guys, but I felt soft 176 00:09:40,410 --> 00:09:43,350 peddled the whole thing so much that I thought that she was kind 177 00:09:43,350 --> 00:09:45,900 of wrong. But then I went and looked at the thing. This word 178 00:09:45,900 --> 00:09:48,480 got me to read it, and she was actually right and probably more 179 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,310 objective, but let's play her little 180 00:09:50,310 --> 00:09:53,400 thing. A federal judge ruled today that the National Security 181 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,700 Agency's bulk collection of phone records is likely 182 00:09:56,700 --> 00:10:00,690 unconstitutional. Judge Richard Leon set the Massa round up of 183 00:10:00,690 --> 00:10:04,470 calls was an unreasonable search and violated Americans 184 00:10:04,470 --> 00:10:07,890 reasonable expectation of privacy, but he put his decision 185 00:10:07,890 --> 00:10:11,100 on hold pending a likely government appeal. We'll have 186 00:10:11,100 --> 00:10:13,470 more on today's ruling right after the news summary. 187 00:10:13,560 --> 00:10:18,600 Okay. I thought that her use of the word likely unconstitutional 188 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,340 was was kind of a soft pet. 189 00:10:20,820 --> 00:10:24,690 That was the same they did in the in the CBS thing. They also 190 00:10:24,690 --> 00:10:26,280 he also used the likely word. 191 00:10:26,940 --> 00:10:31,860 The judge used it. I mean, he essentially said, okay, so that 192 00:10:31,860 --> 00:10:35,700 was not misreporting as I was suspecting it was. He 193 00:10:35,910 --> 00:10:38,700 essentially what he did was he he said, This is horrible. 194 00:10:38,700 --> 00:10:41,520 They're obvious. He says he never said it was a fact. But he 195 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,030 says his obviously they have a great case here. They're going 196 00:10:45,030 --> 00:10:49,020 to it's a Fourth Amendment violation of Fifth Amendment 197 00:10:49,020 --> 00:10:51,900 violation and a First Amendment violation, which nobody brought 198 00:10:51,900 --> 00:10:55,200 up in the news. But the most most newsworthy or most 199 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,070 interesting thing for the no agenda, thinking is this little 200 00:10:59,100 --> 00:11:02,220 tidbit that everybody seemed to overlook. Nobody wanted to bring 201 00:11:02,220 --> 00:11:04,680 it up. And I'll read it for a from the page 202 00:11:04,830 --> 00:11:07,860 that before you do that, who is this law? Who was fired who has 203 00:11:07,860 --> 00:11:09,060 filed this lawsuit? 204 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,360 Larry Clayman, founder of freedom, watch, okay, so 205 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,360 this is a guy who sues a lot. Public Interest 206 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,530 organisation. Yeah, he's in he does just to get Yeah, to get 207 00:11:19,950 --> 00:11:22,410 the Supreme Court. Right. Okay. He does the same thing as the 208 00:11:22,410 --> 00:11:26,250 ACLU does, only he beat him to it. In fact, people have talked 209 00:11:26,250 --> 00:11:29,460 about him beating the ACLU to the punch on this right. Which 210 00:11:29,460 --> 00:11:32,280 makes you wonder, but anyway, but here's the thing about it. 211 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,420 It's not just climbing or claiming. It says, It is the 212 00:11:36,420 --> 00:11:38,670 attorney Larry Clayman, founder of freedom watch a public 213 00:11:38,670 --> 00:11:42,690 interest charges and Charles strange. Now, here's the 214 00:11:42,690 --> 00:11:46,260 interesting part. Charles Strange is the father of Michael 215 00:11:46,260 --> 00:11:50,220 strange, a cryptologist. technician for the NSA, and 216 00:11:50,220 --> 00:11:54,090 support personnel for Navy SEAL Team Six, who was killed in 217 00:11:54,090 --> 00:11:59,280 Afghanistan when his helicopter was shot down in 2011. Oh, 218 00:11:59,310 --> 00:12:02,250 that's interesting. Don't you think that is kind of 219 00:12:02,250 --> 00:12:05,730 newsworthy? That would be clip of the day if it was a clip? I 220 00:12:05,730 --> 00:12:06,750 don't have a clip. No, I 221 00:12:06,750 --> 00:12:12,600 know. But that's Wow. That's a great find. And he's a CO CO 222 00:12:13,710 --> 00:12:17,910 Charles Strange is the CO lead complainant or complaint 223 00:12:17,910 --> 00:12:20,970 plaintiff, plaintiff, plaintiff, he's the CO plaintiff. And they 224 00:12:20,970 --> 00:12:24,000 just mentioned, we're a bunch of lawyers, aren't we? We're not 225 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,020 lawyers. We're not pretending to be the plaintiff law. Yeah. And 226 00:12:28,020 --> 00:12:31,680 besides that, we got it right. So anyway, so that was kind of 227 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:35,040 interesting. And it says they were shut down in 2011. They 228 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,820 assert, which is strange and claiming and how they got it got 229 00:12:38,820 --> 00:12:42,180 this did happen. They asserted their subscribers Verizon 230 00:12:42,180 --> 00:12:45,360 Wireless, and they bring suit against the NSA Department of 231 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:50,010 Justice, several executives, President Obama holder, Keith 232 00:12:50,010 --> 00:12:53,070 Alexander and the District Judge Robert venison, as well as 233 00:12:53,070 --> 00:12:58,890 Verizon and CEO. Good. This is gonna be a really nice case. But 234 00:12:58,890 --> 00:13:03,300 the judge himself stayed his he filed the injunction. 235 00:13:03,450 --> 00:13:06,030 Yeah. But he said, but but I'm going to leave it open because 236 00:13:06,030 --> 00:13:07,500 there's going to be an appeal anyway. 237 00:13:08,010 --> 00:13:10,230 He says you're going to stay at because otherwise, it's just 238 00:13:10,230 --> 00:13:13,080 gonna be a lot more paperwork. Right? So he gives us 239 00:13:13,110 --> 00:13:13,530 government. 240 00:13:13,830 --> 00:13:17,190 This guy is just trying to make a name for himself this judge or 241 00:13:17,190 --> 00:13:17,760 Well, no, the 242 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,880 way you read this thing. This is a very good case. Uh huh. The 243 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:25,890 judges tried the judges just, he just looked at and so yeah, this 244 00:13:25,890 --> 00:13:27,990 is also legit. It's very well done. 245 00:13:28,020 --> 00:13:29,970 So there's a couple things. This is very interesting. I didn't 246 00:13:29,970 --> 00:13:33,180 know about the father of the of the dead navy seal. And why 247 00:13:33,180 --> 00:13:37,260 would he specifically be filing just for the exact same? It's 248 00:13:37,260 --> 00:13:38,700 the same complaint, right? 249 00:13:39,090 --> 00:13:42,660 Yeah. Well, I was thinking about that, too. When I read this. 250 00:13:42,690 --> 00:13:44,850 Yeah. Here's that is what they're after. And this is 251 00:13:44,850 --> 00:13:48,000 what's why it's going to be a fun case to watch. They're going 252 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,230 for discovery. Yeah, just so we can feel man. Yeah, yeah. 253 00:13:52,260 --> 00:13:55,260 Thanks. Something's fishy about that bullcrap. That week when it 254 00:13:55,260 --> 00:13:58,200 came out in 2011. We talked about it extensively on the show 255 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,000 how half the team was wiped out in this crazy helicopter crash 256 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,380 out of the blue. What were they doing? What 257 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,730 wasn't the crash that was shot down? Yeah, they were brought 258 00:14:08,730 --> 00:14:14,100 down by a stinger or aldehyde or something bad or harsh? But 259 00:14:14,100 --> 00:14:18,540 yeah, well, of course it had USA on it. Okay, don't make no 260 00:14:18,540 --> 00:14:19,290 stingers. 261 00:14:19,770 --> 00:14:22,140 So I think strangers after after. 262 00:14:22,980 --> 00:14:26,400 That's good. Now it's interesting because it's, I 263 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,990 didn't pull any clips from it. This guy who's the the other 264 00:14:31,470 --> 00:14:39,180 plaintiff from freedom. Okay. He was on CNN last night. And Don 265 00:14:39,180 --> 00:14:43,110 Lemon kicked him off. He actually kicked him off the toll 266 00:14:43,110 --> 00:14:48,480 this producer guy shot his mic. And it's it's marginally funny, 267 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:53,940 but it shows just how, how already mainstream was going to 268 00:14:53,940 --> 00:14:58,710 try and shut this case down, and how not a single word is uttered 269 00:14:58,710 --> 00:15:02,940 about this father. I think that that that is a great find. It 270 00:15:02,940 --> 00:15:07,410 turns out however, if you listen to Dianne Feinstein here, that 271 00:15:07,410 --> 00:15:10,530 there was another case just a month ago, where exactly the 272 00:15:10,530 --> 00:15:17,070 opposite took place, or then an opposite ruling. And she really 273 00:15:17,070 --> 00:15:18,990 wants this to go to the Supreme Court. 274 00:15:19,739 --> 00:15:23,189 Well, this was not the first time last month, there was a 275 00:15:23,189 --> 00:15:28,649 hearing of a case, the case of someone providing financial and 276 00:15:28,649 --> 00:15:32,879 other support to Al Shabaab, it took place in the Southern 277 00:15:32,879 --> 00:15:37,589 District of California, the judge was Jeffrey Miller, he 278 00:15:37,589 --> 00:15:43,439 found that that two to 215 programme was constitutional. 279 00:15:43,709 --> 00:15:47,969 And the point of issue was specifically that. So you have 280 00:15:47,969 --> 00:15:52,409 one case a month ago, which has not been reported on that I've 281 00:15:52,409 --> 00:15:56,669 seen and you have the case of a few days ago, which has been 282 00:15:56,669 --> 00:15:59,999 reported on extensively. And what does this all mean? This 283 00:15:59,999 --> 00:16:03,989 means that clearly, it's going to go up on appeal, and go to 284 00:16:03,989 --> 00:16:07,499 the Supreme Court, and I very much would urge the Court to 285 00:16:07,499 --> 00:16:08,369 take the case. 286 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:13,439 Okay, so this, I think, is a setup, John, whichever case, you 287 00:16:13,439 --> 00:16:18,869 look at the the spider in the middle of the web, but Dianne 288 00:16:18,869 --> 00:16:22,109 Feinstein wants it to go to the Supreme Court. So it's a setup. 289 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:28,440 Not necessarily. You're you're saying we're doomed to be upset 290 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,160 that you're saying that this judge who wrote is very nice 291 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,900 piece is corrupt or in some none? Like why No. 292 00:16:36,930 --> 00:16:44,160 Well, he I think what what I, the way it's been reported, he 293 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,970 stayed his judgement, because be too much paperwork, because it's 294 00:16:47,970 --> 00:16:52,380 going to be appeal anyway. So he knows. The whole point is we 295 00:16:52,380 --> 00:16:54,990 need to take it one step higher, which I guess would ultimately 296 00:16:54,990 --> 00:16:56,280 be the Supreme Court. Well, I 297 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,850 think yeah, I think he's assuming that right. And it 298 00:16:59,850 --> 00:17:03,510 seems like What are you implying, though, is the setup 299 00:17:03,510 --> 00:17:06,990 so the Supreme Court can say no, it's fine. We can we get to hell 300 00:17:06,990 --> 00:17:09,330 with the Fourth Amendment. You got Scalia in there? I don't 301 00:17:09,330 --> 00:17:10,770 think that's going to happen. Yeah, you 302 00:17:10,769 --> 00:17:14,189 know what, it's this is what I've learned. And let me lead in 303 00:17:14,189 --> 00:17:16,679 with this clip today and investigative panel raised some 304 00:17:16,679 --> 00:17:20,129 serious concerns and recommended some dramatic changes at the 305 00:17:20,129 --> 00:17:24,809 NSA. The 46 recommendations spelled out in the 300 page 306 00:17:24,809 --> 00:17:28,319 report are surprising and sweeping. The panel chosen by 307 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:31,769 President Obama is urging that the NSA stop collecting and 308 00:17:31,769 --> 00:17:35,609 mining phone calls from Americans. The advisors say that 309 00:17:35,609 --> 00:17:39,539 surveillance programme creates potential risks to public trust, 310 00:17:39,629 --> 00:17:43,379 personal privacy and civil liberty. They also urge that 311 00:17:43,379 --> 00:17:46,979 spying on foreign citizens, including world leaders must be 312 00:17:46,979 --> 00:17:51,119 carried out by a duly enacted law or executive order, and must 313 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,479 be excessively directed at protecting national security 314 00:17:54,479 --> 00:17:59,339 interests. Okay, so that's the lead into this 308 page report, 315 00:17:59,339 --> 00:18:01,259 which I ploughed through. 316 00:18:01,980 --> 00:18:07,590 You read this thing before you do it before you go there. On my 317 00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:10,140 desk interesting to do you have the list of the people that are 318 00:18:10,140 --> 00:18:13,320 on this, this Do people have reproduced this report. You're a 319 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,360 bunch of white students. Hello, 320 00:18:15,390 --> 00:18:19,260 this is how my this is how it starts off. Of course I have 321 00:18:19,260 --> 00:18:20,400 that. Okay. I 322 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,890 want you to read those names because it includes of all 323 00:18:22,890 --> 00:18:25,500 people that guy Richard Clark, well, 324 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:30,480 look, no, no, no backup, backup backup. All on scroll to that. 325 00:18:30,540 --> 00:18:34,440 Okay. Richard Clark, you want to explain who Richard Clark is 326 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,280 Dick Clark? 327 00:18:35,820 --> 00:18:39,090 Yeah, Dick Clark, who's been we've seen him since we began 328 00:18:39,090 --> 00:18:43,500 this show. This character has been on and off the news. And 329 00:18:43,500 --> 00:18:48,750 he's, he's essentially he's an ex CIA guy who was just began 330 00:18:48,750 --> 00:18:53,610 his career in media, by bitching about the fact that he knew all 331 00:18:53,610 --> 00:18:57,600 about the that Osama bin Laden was a bad guy and he was part of 332 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,470 he was him and that bearded guy that other character went on and 333 00:19:01,470 --> 00:19:04,560 on about how they nobody listened to them when they said 334 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,290 this is going to happen. And then and then he went from one 335 00:19:07,290 --> 00:19:09,960 thing to another and Richard Clarke finally ended up seeing 336 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:15,120 that there was a bonanza in cybercrime, right, anything 337 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:15,420 right? 338 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,650 Okay. That's just one of the names. The next name is Michael 339 00:19:19,650 --> 00:19:20,640 J. Morrell. 340 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,350 Wherever we heard that name. Come on, he's 341 00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:27,540 another x agency guy, isn't he? 342 00:19:27,570 --> 00:19:30,600 He's the guy who's on his way out. He's the Alright, He's the 343 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,200 assistant. He's the Deputy Director of the CIA. 33 years 344 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:39,060 he's on his way out gonna write a great book. He did his first 345 00:19:39,060 --> 00:19:43,500 interview ever. Recently. You'll recall that Yep. Then we have a 346 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:50,010 Jeffrey R stone is the next on the list. This is the this is 347 00:19:50,010 --> 00:19:53,430 the cover. This is I think the guy he wrote most of this is the 348 00:19:53,430 --> 00:19:57,240 lawyer of course from Chicago. Chicago Law School. Got to have 349 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:02,850 your Chicago shield in there. Very Very famous, and very well 350 00:20:02,850 --> 00:20:06,930 respected lawyer, I would say if you look at his book of 351 00:20:06,930 --> 00:20:11,490 knowledge entry, you can see all of the things that he has done, 352 00:20:11,490 --> 00:20:16,170 but I thought, you know, the, the Chicago connection makes a 353 00:20:16,170 --> 00:20:21,900 lot of sense. And of course, he's in a number of the boards 354 00:20:21,900 --> 00:20:26,490 of a number of interesting organisations and you right, 355 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:27,870 being the operative 356 00:20:27,870 --> 00:20:32,910 word, yeah. Then we have Cass Sunstein of Cass Sunstein is of 357 00:20:32,910 --> 00:20:36,120 course, the husband of our current ambassador to the United 358 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:42,390 Nations, Susan power, powers power. Cass Sunstein authored 359 00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:46,740 the paper where he said that the authorities, the federal 360 00:20:46,740 --> 00:20:51,750 authorities need to infiltrate groups of people talking crazy, 361 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,540 like us to 362 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,830 another, we're never gonna get infiltrated. We don't have 363 00:20:58,830 --> 00:21:00,660 guests. All right. 364 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:07,050 So Cass Sunstein is a is a known operative when it comes to 365 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,290 disinformation. And he writes about it this is this is what he 366 00:21:10,290 --> 00:21:15,090 wants what he specialty. Then Peter Swire is the other guy who 367 00:21:15,150 --> 00:21:20,760 to round out this list. He is professor of business, I 368 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,990 believe, but most importantly, he's a big wave over there at 369 00:21:24,990 --> 00:21:30,450 the he's a senior fellow at the Centre for American Progress. So 370 00:21:30,450 --> 00:21:35,700 he is a super, super left wing Obama bot, who got thrown in 371 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:37,560 there, these guys were handpicked. And this is this is 372 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:42,330 almost like the 911 Commission. You know, it's really it's it's 373 00:21:42,330 --> 00:21:44,610 not the people you want to have some kind of independence. 374 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:48,420 That was somebody that somebody on Democracy Now they have a 375 00:21:48,420 --> 00:21:51,990 clip, but it's not important, mentioned that the the entire 376 00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:57,570 operation was was office and worked under the under clapper. 377 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,320 Oh, he was the manager of the whole thing makes 378 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:07,890 total sense. Makes total sense. And I have marked up this entire 379 00:22:07,890 --> 00:22:10,890 document. We're not going to do all of that. But I encourage you 380 00:22:10,890 --> 00:22:15,390 to go to 575, that na shownotes.com and take a look at 381 00:22:15,390 --> 00:22:20,940 it. And I've highlighted relevant, relevant passages. And 382 00:22:20,940 --> 00:22:24,510 I think I kind of know where they're going with this. And the 383 00:22:24,510 --> 00:22:28,680 way the media is reporting on this is this panel. And no one 384 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,100 ever says who's on I find that interesting. We're the as far as 385 00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:34,230 I know, we're the only media outlet that has said, hey, if 386 00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:39,240 the X is the CIA guy, it's Cass Sunstein. It's Richard Clarke. 387 00:22:39,390 --> 00:22:42,600 Are you kidding me? No, they all say, handpicked by the White 388 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,480 House. Even Glenn Greenwald hasn't mentioned the names, 389 00:22:45,660 --> 00:22:48,900 which leads me to believe they're just parroting what they 390 00:22:48,900 --> 00:22:52,980 hear. No one is no one actually ever looks at this stuff. And 391 00:22:52,980 --> 00:22:57,570 let it know. And by the way, I almost did die ploughing through 392 00:22:57,570 --> 00:23:00,990 this. It's really it's a lot. There's a lot of legalese. But 393 00:23:00,990 --> 00:23:07,410 it's a very interesting history of how FISA and the F and the n 394 00:23:07,410 --> 00:23:11,310 the Foreign Intelligence Service court came to be there is it is 395 00:23:11,310 --> 00:23:14,520 well worth reading, just to understand, because it really 396 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:19,290 goes back to the 1970s to the Church Committee, where that's 397 00:23:19,290 --> 00:23:21,810 where the FISA Court was created. And there's a lot of 398 00:23:21,810 --> 00:23:24,600 that history in here and I cross reference everything even put 399 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,180 some links into the book of knowledge. And there's a couple 400 00:23:27,180 --> 00:23:29,280 of things that, you know, they start off by saying, well, 401 00:23:29,700 --> 00:23:33,030 traditional distinctions between foreign and domestic are very 402 00:23:33,030 --> 00:23:37,650 unclear today, you know, there's a lot of this fuzzy wuzzy stuff. 403 00:23:37,650 --> 00:23:40,320 And essentially, this document is saying the same thing three 404 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:45,570 times over, which I think is what most good documents do, is, 405 00:23:45,570 --> 00:23:47,880 you know, you say it short, you say it a little bit longer. And 406 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,630 then you say it really, really long with all of your sources 407 00:23:51,630 --> 00:23:56,040 and all of your important stuff in there. And as with 408 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,000 everything, every recommendation they make everything they say 409 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,200 should change, which the media is running with as well, this, 410 00:24:04,860 --> 00:24:09,030 this panel says the NSA should no longer store the data, the 411 00:24:09,030 --> 00:24:15,960 metadata in the document itself, which is bearing down on who 412 00:24:16,110 --> 00:24:19,710 this has got to be page like more like 79 and we'll see if I 413 00:24:19,710 --> 00:24:21,300 can scroll to a real fast. 414 00:24:24,180 --> 00:24:25,440 Second, third party, 415 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:31,770 the NSA itself is happy with the recommendation it says that in 416 00:24:31,770 --> 00:24:35,880 the document is happy with the recommendation of not having to 417 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:41,220 store all this data themselves because a it's very costly, and 418 00:24:41,220 --> 00:24:44,850 it's really complicated. B They can't get it from everybody. And 419 00:24:44,850 --> 00:24:48,930 so they would much more prefer that they had real time in this 420 00:24:48,930 --> 00:24:54,180 document real time interfaces to all all providers data so that 421 00:24:54,180 --> 00:24:56,820 they can do this on the fly when they have the appropriate 422 00:24:56,820 --> 00:24:59,370 approval which will be just as simple as ever 423 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,310 And they want to use a distributed database and 424 00:25:02,310 --> 00:25:03,600 everybody else's storage 425 00:25:03,810 --> 00:25:07,140 facility. Yes. And it says in the document, the NSA is happy 426 00:25:07,140 --> 00:25:11,250 with this recommendation. They wanted to do it anyway. It 427 00:25:11,250 --> 00:25:14,820 literally says that in the document. So for the media to 428 00:25:14,820 --> 00:25:17,940 say, Oh, this is Oh, they boy, they hit him on the phone, those 429 00:25:17,940 --> 00:25:21,300 wrap their knuckles didn't make bullshit. They give me exactly 430 00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:25,710 what they want, exactly what they want. And here's the thing 431 00:25:25,710 --> 00:25:29,970 that we're the legalese that is coming into play and why I think 432 00:25:29,970 --> 00:25:32,970 that this is go and this has been to the Supreme Court 433 00:25:32,970 --> 00:25:36,060 multiple times the Fourth Amendment, the Supreme Court 434 00:25:36,060 --> 00:25:42,960 ruled that wiretapping is not unconstitutional against the 435 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,840 Fourth Amendment. This is what this has already been hashed 436 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,640 out, many, many times. And they just it's we're like the boiling 437 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,430 frogs. You know, this is just another one more, we got to go 438 00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:56,130 through one more step than we really got all these stupid 439 00:25:56,130 --> 00:25:59,940 human resources. And the approach is very interesting 440 00:25:59,970 --> 00:26:03,630 chapter one principles in this document. The United States 441 00:26:03,630 --> 00:26:06,930 Government must protect at once two different forms of security, 442 00:26:07,290 --> 00:26:10,980 national security and personal privacy. Now, here's the 443 00:26:10,980 --> 00:26:12,960 trickiness John, and you're gonna love what they're doing 444 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,050 here. In the American, I'm reading from this document in 445 00:26:16,050 --> 00:26:20,190 the American tradition, the word security has had multiple 446 00:26:20,190 --> 00:26:23,340 meanings. Uh huh. Were you aware of this, John? 447 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:24,840 I am now 448 00:26:25,110 --> 00:26:29,160 in contemporary parlance, it often refers to national 449 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,750 security or Homeland Security. Thus understood it signals the 450 00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:36,180 immense importance of counteracting threats that come 451 00:26:36,180 --> 00:26:39,570 from those who seek to do the nation and its citizens harm. 452 00:26:40,770 --> 00:26:42,930 One of the government's most fundamental responsibilities is 453 00:26:42,930 --> 00:26:48,870 to protect this form of security broadly understood. Now, and 454 00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:52,680 then it goes into whole thing about September 11. At the same 455 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,670 time, the idea of security refers to a quite different and 456 00:26:56,700 --> 00:27:00,480 equally fundamental value, captured in the Fourth Amendment 457 00:27:00,780 --> 00:27:03,480 to the United States Constitution. The right of the 458 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,580 people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and 459 00:27:08,580 --> 00:27:11,910 effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not 460 00:27:11,910 --> 00:27:16,440 be violated. This form of security is a central component 461 00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:19,500 of the right of privacy, which the Supreme Court Justice Louis 462 00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:22,680 Brandeis famously described as the right to be let alone the 463 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,650 most comprehensive of rights and the most valued by civilised 464 00:27:25,650 --> 00:27:31,470 men. And then they go into set to literally look at the 465 00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:37,560 etymology of the word security. It might seem puzzling or a 466 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,100 coincidence of language, that the word security embodies such 467 00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:44,310 different values, but the etymology of the word solves the 468 00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:48,900 puzzle. Haha, there is no coincidence here. In Latin the 469 00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:53,250 word Securus offers the core meanings which include free from 470 00:27:53,250 --> 00:27:58,530 care quiet, easy, and also tranquil, free from danger and 471 00:27:58,530 --> 00:28:02,010 safe. People who are at physical risk because of a threat of 472 00:28:02,010 --> 00:28:05,460 external violence are by definition in danger, they are 473 00:28:05,460 --> 00:28:09,690 not safe. So to people made insecure by their own government 474 00:28:09,690 --> 00:28:12,990 in their persons, houses, papers and effects can hardly be free 475 00:28:12,990 --> 00:28:16,530 from care or tranquil. And indeed, the first sentence of 476 00:28:16,530 --> 00:28:20,940 the Constitution juxtaposes the two values explicitly using the 477 00:28:20,940 --> 00:28:25,920 word secure. Meaning and now they're saying secure means 478 00:28:25,950 --> 00:28:30,300 liberty and prosperity and the right to the pursuit of 479 00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:35,580 happiness, to they're trying to twist the word secure into 480 00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:39,480 something the government has to protect you from and against 481 00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:45,150 yourself, so that you can have secure ie liberty. And they're 482 00:28:45,150 --> 00:28:49,260 saying that the secure the the meaning of secure kind of also 483 00:28:49,260 --> 00:28:52,950 means you have to have liberty. So we have to protect that by 484 00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:56,700 looking at your shit. Does that make any sense? 485 00:28:58,620 --> 00:29:02,070 Well, I can see what what it's trying to make sense, but it 486 00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:05,760 doesn't in fact, make sense and and to go back to the etymology 487 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,180 of well known terms, I mean, you can't is like pretty, it's 488 00:29:09,180 --> 00:29:12,420 pretty specious, I'd say is it's like as Jimmy it's totally 489 00:29:12,420 --> 00:29:15,780 specious. It's a total gimmick. And so they're trying to find 490 00:29:15,780 --> 00:29:19,530 anything they can to rationalise what they're up to. Well, I 491 00:29:19,530 --> 00:29:22,500 mean, I was watching just as a side clip here, which is part of 492 00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:28,620 this. I was, saw Chris Matthews had Obama on and Obama and the 493 00:29:28,620 --> 00:29:32,040 weird thing was Matthews had then it was a sit down someplace 494 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:32,880 other than the studio. 495 00:29:32,909 --> 00:29:35,399 This is that tour that he did remember, I remember I told you 496 00:29:35,399 --> 00:29:37,289 that he was doing a tour on the President's Right, 497 00:29:37,290 --> 00:29:41,580 right. Exactly what it was. Yeah. And so Matthews is like 498 00:29:41,670 --> 00:29:46,410 his mouth was kind of a gape. The whole time that Obama said 499 00:29:47,070 --> 00:29:51,210 it, well, he has those kind of like, well, no, I think he was 500 00:29:51,210 --> 00:29:56,610 actually stunned. Oh, because he had that look of the is a 501 00:29:56,610 --> 00:29:59,310 cartoon looked at the Simpsons used ones where the mouth is 502 00:29:59,310 --> 00:30:03,780 kind of open. be like yeah in shock Ah, but it because you 503 00:30:03,780 --> 00:30:06,300 can't say anything because you're like the number one Obama 504 00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:10,770 but currently in the in the MSNBC place but but listen to 505 00:30:10,770 --> 00:30:14,100 this nonsense from Obama 506 00:30:14,580 --> 00:30:17,370 I've said before and I will say again the NSA actually does a 507 00:30:17,370 --> 00:30:24,330 very good job about not engaging in domestic surveillance, not 508 00:30:24,330 --> 00:30:28,290 reading people's emails not listening to the contents of 509 00:30:28,290 --> 00:30:33,810 their phone calls outside of our borders, the NSA is more 510 00:30:33,810 --> 00:30:38,040 aggressive. It's not constrained by laws. And part of what we're 511 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,880 trying to do over the next month or so is having done an 512 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,790 independent review and brought a whole bunch of folks, civil 513 00:30:44,790 --> 00:30:49,080 libertarians and lawyers and others to examine what's being 514 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:56,670 done. I'll be proposing some self restraint on the NSA and to 515 00:30:56,700 --> 00:30:59,190 initiate some reforms that can give people more confidence. 516 00:30:59,459 --> 00:31:02,609 So his his panel of outside people is that 517 00:31:03,570 --> 00:31:08,490 John Steen is the libertarian. How did how does Obama as the 518 00:31:08,490 --> 00:31:13,140 president, how does he How do you for anybody impose self 519 00:31:13,140 --> 00:31:17,100 restraint on somebody on the basis of someone? Well, madam, I 520 00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:21,150 want you to restrain yourself, I'm going to impose my will on 521 00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:24,330 making you have to restrain yours. It's not possible. This 522 00:31:24,330 --> 00:31:25,170 is bullcrap, 523 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,960 the way, the way it's described in this document is through. And 524 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,760 of course, this is where it gets interesting through the 525 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:34,590 executive orders. And executive orders should be shouldn't make 526 00:31:34,590 --> 00:31:38,820 you should constrain you to do certain things. But if if you 527 00:31:38,820 --> 00:31:42,840 look what's happened, they're reaching back to 2010 2011 528 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:49,500 executive orders that just show the setup to this. If you didn't 529 00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:52,440 know better, and maybe we don't know better, it feels like the 530 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,910 whole thing is a setup just to solidify the way that they've 531 00:31:56,910 --> 00:32:02,670 always wanted to start with which is which is really to have 532 00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:06,660 full access. Just the state have. Yeah, well, yes. And have 533 00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:09,840 the distributed database, and good to go. 534 00:32:10,140 --> 00:32:12,900 Yeah, that's makes a lot cheaper, better things do that 535 00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:13,590 money. The 536 00:32:13,620 --> 00:32:17,340 The interesting thing really is, though, to go back and see the 537 00:32:17,340 --> 00:32:22,110 history now really this started in in 1928. This is when the 538 00:32:22,110 --> 00:32:26,040 Supreme Court first started looking at the emerging 539 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:31,020 technologies of telephony. And what and this is when 540 00:32:31,020 --> 00:32:33,930 wiretapping was deemed not a search within the meaning of the 541 00:32:33,930 --> 00:32:38,580 Fourth Amendment, then in 1978 76, I think we had the 542 00:32:38,580 --> 00:32:44,340 Church Committee. And again, is it went to the Supreme Court, 543 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,570 and it came, it keeps coming back. We're not We the People 544 00:32:48,570 --> 00:32:52,050 are not going to win this one. All the all that is really 545 00:32:52,050 --> 00:32:55,830 happening here is the systems are being set up. So the minute 546 00:32:55,830 --> 00:33:00,240 it involves national security, imminent death, or something, 547 00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:03,720 that's kind of their their main things, then all bets are off, 548 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,260 we can go immediately. And there is there will be a change to 549 00:33:07,260 --> 00:33:10,410 national security letters, or that is the proposed 550 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,580 recommendation of which by the way, 60 are written every single 551 00:33:14,580 --> 00:33:19,590 day. The FBI writes 60 National Security did in 2012, according 552 00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:22,500 this document over 30,000 National Security Letters. 553 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,110 That's a lot of people that need to shut up. 554 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,440 I think this is terrible, of course, and something's got to 555 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,150 be done about those national security. Well, 556 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,630 there is a recommendation in here that they would have, you 557 00:33:33,630 --> 00:33:37,050 know, yet another secret judge who would, you know, take a look 558 00:33:37,050 --> 00:33:40,770 at that. And it shouldn't just be the FBI, which I of course 559 00:33:40,770 --> 00:33:45,270 agree with. But I don't see just using 560 00:33:45,270 --> 00:33:49,320 it as a, you know, this is when I was doing diag in the 90s when 561 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,920 I was doing this radio show real computing. We had an FBI guy on 562 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,430 and this was when they were trying to push through. It was 563 00:33:56,430 --> 00:33:59,010 the clipper chip. It wasn't a clip it was some other thing. It 564 00:33:59,010 --> 00:34:02,250 was something that spies on your TV viewing or something with 565 00:34:02,250 --> 00:34:07,800 some ridiculous technology and made the assertion and the guy 566 00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:12,270 really couldn't disagree with me but the FBI would love for their 567 00:34:12,270 --> 00:34:15,900 job to just be so easy that all they have to do is just tap 568 00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:18,390 everyone's phone listen and figure out who the bad guys 569 00:34:18,390 --> 00:34:21,900 aren't go arrest them as opposed to actually doing police work. 570 00:34:21,900 --> 00:34:25,620 Yeah. They because what's if you have a choice if you if you're 571 00:34:25,620 --> 00:34:28,740 in law enforcement, you have a choice between just spying on 572 00:34:28,740 --> 00:34:30,960 everybody like the Stasi in East Germany, 573 00:34:31,290 --> 00:34:34,410 just kicking back drink some coffee and drinks have 574 00:34:34,410 --> 00:34:36,810 doughnuts, wait for the light to pop on. 575 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,240 And then a light Yeah. And then you go bust to get thrown in 576 00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:41,790 jail, throw the keys away and then you go to wait for the next 577 00:34:41,820 --> 00:34:44,820 light to come on. You don't have to do any work. You don't even 578 00:34:44,820 --> 00:34:49,260 have to be trained. And this is ideally what they want. Yeah. 579 00:34:49,290 --> 00:34:52,350 And because when they have to do police work, they suck at it 580 00:34:52,350 --> 00:34:54,330 apparently and they don't want to improve their their 581 00:34:54,330 --> 00:34:55,290 capabilities. And 582 00:34:55,290 --> 00:34:59,130 let me remind everybody in the Time magazine cover interview of 583 00:34:59,130 --> 00:35:02,880 Mark Zuckerberg ERG, and I think this is again, the only 584 00:35:02,940 --> 00:35:06,630 programme there's ever really discussed this. In, in the in 585 00:35:06,630 --> 00:35:10,230 this cover article, there's Robert Muller, then director of 586 00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:13,440 the FBI pops his head around the corner walls, Zuckerberg being 587 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,570 interviewed and says, Hey, I was in the building, just you know, 588 00:35:15,660 --> 00:35:20,190 want to say hi. Because that's how I like it. And yeah, and 589 00:35:20,190 --> 00:35:23,700 there is language in this document, specifically saying 590 00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:28,080 that if people and it's very key to what this document think 591 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,050 does, besides the make it easy for the NSA to tap into 592 00:35:31,050 --> 00:35:34,590 everybody, if this would become a recommendation or a law or 593 00:35:34,590 --> 00:35:37,170 anything, again, this is just a document. But you know how these 594 00:35:37,170 --> 00:35:40,590 things go, nothing is by chance with the Obama administration. 595 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,390 So it's setting up the NSA for much easier work, which they 596 00:35:45,390 --> 00:35:48,900 like, as we've already identified, it's also setting up 597 00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:51,930 the conversation for well, if if you're giving all your 598 00:35:51,930 --> 00:35:56,520 information to other third parties anyway, and you're not 599 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,760 worried about what they're doing with it necessarily, then why 600 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,150 should it be a problem for that to be searched? That that will 601 00:36:03,150 --> 00:36:09,270 be the next conversation? And then ultimately, let me see if I 602 00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:10,020 can find 603 00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:12,870 Well, you know, they've already come up with some stories that 604 00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:16,020 have shown up on the media, where the NSA has turned over 605 00:36:16,020 --> 00:36:21,510 data to the IRS to bus people and it turned over data on 606 00:36:22,740 --> 00:36:28,890 protest groups. Apparently, the what was the thing in New York 607 00:36:28,890 --> 00:36:33,990 of the protests from Occupy Wall occupy was busted but so they're 608 00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:36,480 already doing this. And I think they sneak these things out 609 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,970 everyone's we'll see if anybody squawks about it. But But listen 610 00:36:38,970 --> 00:36:40,380 to media doesn't say crap. 611 00:36:40,770 --> 00:36:44,640 This in a series of decisions in the 1970s, the Supreme Court 612 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,330 held that individuals have, quote, no reasonable expectation 613 00:36:48,330 --> 00:36:52,170 of privacy, in information they voluntarily share with third 614 00:36:52,170 --> 00:36:55,230 parties, such as banks and telephone companies, explain 615 00:36:55,230 --> 00:36:58,470 Facebook explain, explaining that, quote, what a person 616 00:36:58,470 --> 00:37:02,460 knowingly exposes to third parties is, quote, not a subject 617 00:37:02,460 --> 00:37:05,790 of Fourth Amendment protection. And then in Miller versus United 618 00:37:05,790 --> 00:37:08,820 States court applied this reasoning to bank records in 619 00:37:08,820 --> 00:37:11,520 Smith versus Maryland. It extended it to an individual's 620 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,520 telephone calling records. This is this is history. There's 621 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,290 they're just giving us fact they're throwing it in your 622 00:37:16,290 --> 00:37:20,070 face, and you have no privacy slave, shut up. This has been 623 00:37:20,070 --> 00:37:24,870 decided. So we can go back again. But I don't The only time 624 00:37:25,110 --> 00:37:29,640 it changed was recently in 2012. With the GPS device being 625 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,910 attached to the guy's car. Do you recall that right that that 626 00:37:32,910 --> 00:37:37,530 was seen as a breach of someone's privacy under the 627 00:37:37,530 --> 00:37:40,980 Fourth Amendment? That was actually Sonia Sotomayor, 628 00:37:40,980 --> 00:37:45,720 Justice Sotomayor, as she wrote that in her opinion, but 629 00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:48,990 otherwise, you have no right to privacy with any information you 630 00:37:48,990 --> 00:37:53,130 give to a third party. Now the problem is, of course, that we 631 00:37:53,130 --> 00:37:55,620 can't do without a lot of third parties. 632 00:37:56,339 --> 00:37:59,549 Like, well, you're making it and the system is making it worse. 633 00:37:59,549 --> 00:38:00,149 Yes. 634 00:38:00,180 --> 00:38:05,940 Thank you. Ted Kaczynski, rules once again. It always comes back 635 00:38:05,940 --> 00:38:08,250 to the Unabomber. I can't help myself and 636 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,820 gentlemen of the jury, you have to realise that Mr. Curry is a 637 00:38:11,850 --> 00:38:15,030 huge protege of Ted Kaczynski. 638 00:38:15,450 --> 00:38:19,230 Right. Well, I don't know if you will, you probably did hear. 639 00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:25,020 Hear the news that happened? Or came out this morning. Here we 640 00:38:25,020 --> 00:38:26,640 go talking about centralization. 641 00:38:26,670 --> 00:38:28,800 Well, sure. It's certainly know what consumers want to hear with 642 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,680 the holiday shopping season. Now in high gear. As you said the 643 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,710 security breach involves stolen credit card and debit 644 00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:37,410 information. And according to the Secret Service, it could 645 00:38:37,410 --> 00:38:40,950 impact millions of people who shop at Target at stores all 646 00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:43,920 across the country and tonight at this Target store at seventh 647 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,980 and fig shoppers we talked to or thinking twice now about using 648 00:38:46,980 --> 00:38:50,220 their credit after hearing what investigators say appears to 649 00:38:50,220 --> 00:38:54,090 have happened here a breach they say that may go back as far as 650 00:38:54,090 --> 00:38:57,300 Black Friday. Now somehow investigators believe cyber 651 00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:01,110 criminals hacked into the cyber criminal systems at targets 652 00:39:01,110 --> 00:39:01,590 retail 653 00:39:01,620 --> 00:39:04,950 this by the way is a very interesting report from KTLA and 654 00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:07,440 I want to play the rest of it because they have two men on the 655 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:13,260 street interviews. And it is it literally is a no agenda guy and 656 00:39:13,260 --> 00:39:19,740 then all the rest. Those two people this is about supposedly 657 00:39:19,740 --> 00:39:23,910 40 million credit card slash debit card numbers stolen from 658 00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:26,670 point of sale systems at Target which of course is the problem 659 00:39:26,910 --> 00:39:30,510 with your forced centralization of money which is not always 660 00:39:30,510 --> 00:39:32,220 necessary. There are ways around Boris 661 00:39:32,220 --> 00:39:35,190 we know that's where you swipe your card. Give your personal 662 00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:38,370 information including your pin number. Now how they did it 663 00:39:38,370 --> 00:39:41,850 isn't clear yet. The big concern of course, is that these 664 00:39:41,850 --> 00:39:44,940 criminals may be using the information to create fake cards 665 00:39:44,940 --> 00:39:48,480 or use a person's pin number to get into their ATM and take out 666 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,380 money. This has happened in other retailers in the past and 667 00:39:52,380 --> 00:39:54,900 at least one construction have cut this down. I apologise and 668 00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:58,140 we're told us that's why he only shops with cash. 669 00:39:58,740 --> 00:40:02,250 Yay. I just deal with cash now 670 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,570 that's the safest way to go about shopping for me anyways 671 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,580 okay that's our no agenda guy are you ready? Are you ready for 672 00:40:11,580 --> 00:40:12,090 the rest 673 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,930 that's kind of like your life they could like steal your 674 00:40:15,930 --> 00:40:18,480 information and take take that's like they have they're taking 675 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,610 your life they can take your identity they take your life 676 00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:23,490 because out here your identity is everything your identity was 677 00:40:23,490 --> 00:40:24,900 what matters because that's who you are. 678 00:40:25,529 --> 00:40:29,729 That's right keep your identity safe. Keep your ID cards don't 679 00:40:29,729 --> 00:40:33,839 become an invalid in society. Yeah, cash people we got to get 680 00:40:33,839 --> 00:40:38,819 back to cash this is crazy. I I shopped at Target The one time I 681 00:40:38,819 --> 00:40:44,429 go they steal the numbers we bought the money Yeah, we bought 682 00:40:44,429 --> 00:40:47,609 it we bought a Christmas lights for the house the decorated for 683 00:40:47,609 --> 00:40:52,259 the kids went to target the one time I go okay, anyway, the 684 00:40:52,259 --> 00:40:57,599 recommendations are very the only one that the media is able 685 00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:01,079 to pull out that makes any sense that makes it sound like this 686 00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:05,069 panel. This blue ribbon panel did anything is the one where 687 00:41:05,069 --> 00:41:07,709 they say oh well you know it should be a third party it 688 00:41:07,709 --> 00:41:13,259 should either be the carriers themselves or a third party and 689 00:41:13,289 --> 00:41:18,059 I was looking at the the big circle jerk fast to the Silicon 690 00:41:18,059 --> 00:41:20,219 Valley douchebags at the white house the other day 691 00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:24,900 can you play a clip I have of that? Is this was dude seemed to 692 00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:28,110 me to be it was yeah Jana if you saw any of the videos no I did I 693 00:41:28,110 --> 00:41:31,260 want to finish the thought and then okay, there's a bit of okay 694 00:41:31,290 --> 00:41:33,450 go off and don't want to lose my train of thought on 695 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,250 well then write it down and make a mark put the tie your shoelace 696 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:44,340 okay the it dawned on me that looking at the list and of 697 00:41:44,340 --> 00:41:47,040 course I saw the video and actually have a 35 seconds of 698 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:52,020 audio that I wanted to play from it the people missing you know 699 00:41:52,020 --> 00:41:55,230 there was no Cisco wasn't there you know the people that really 700 00:41:55,230 --> 00:41:58,890 matter who are really part of the backbone of the internet. 701 00:41:59,340 --> 00:42:01,920 These guys weren't they it was Marissa Meyer who was 702 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,890 strategically placed you know, she looked up pretty. Eric 703 00:42:04,890 --> 00:42:07,740 Schmidt is right across from the present and then we have the 704 00:42:07,740 --> 00:42:14,850 Netflix guy, and we have the Salesforce really no no, this 705 00:42:14,850 --> 00:42:18,420 was a pitch this is a pitch as to who can store all this data 706 00:42:18,420 --> 00:42:22,050 as far as I'm concerned. This was not anything else other than 707 00:42:22,050 --> 00:42:25,560 Hey, let's go hang out at the White House and these guys are 708 00:42:25,590 --> 00:42:30,300 dicks let me play my little 35 seconds here. And I'll tell you 709 00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:32,370 what's happening so you can follow along it's kind of hard 710 00:42:32,370 --> 00:42:36,330 to hear this is the pool is allowed to the pool videos 711 00:42:36,330 --> 00:42:39,300 allowed to be shot and the President is making some joke 712 00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:42,960 about the house of cards and then the Netflix guy goes my 713 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,010 clip well then I'm setting it up that we have the same no plant 714 00:42:47,010 --> 00:42:54,480 plant and the Netflix guy goes to Academy and then Eric Schmidt 715 00:42:54,690 --> 00:43:00,510 is laughing like a moron it's true like he's about to jump 716 00:43:00,510 --> 00:43:03,480 over and suck the president off It's so scary. 717 00:43:04,860 --> 00:43:07,590 But the advanced copies of House of Cards 718 00:43:12,690 --> 00:43:23,340 are willing to do a little cameo cameo Well, I wish things were 719 00:43:23,370 --> 00:43:24,870 that ruthlessly efficient 720 00:43:31,980 --> 00:43:33,150 just guys getting a lot of stuff done 721 00:43:37,980 --> 00:43:44,880 Eric Schmidt is a is a weenie boy. He's a little suck up 722 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,490 little weenie pussy boy. Did you 723 00:43:47,490 --> 00:43:50,190 see him? It was pathetic. Oh, 724 00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:53,790 and these are the people you trust anything with immediately. 725 00:43:53,970 --> 00:43:58,410 Sean Google opt out of I'm cancelling my Netflix for this 726 00:43:58,410 --> 00:43:59,730 just for that one guy. 727 00:44:00,510 --> 00:44:03,870 So they had it set up. So Biden was sitting next to Marissa 728 00:44:03,870 --> 00:44:08,940 Meyer. Yeah. Just a horn dog sitting next to the only blonde 729 00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:12,420 kind of cute blonde. Yeah. And then on the other side, by the 730 00:44:12,420 --> 00:44:15,030 way, by the way, by the way. Sheryl Sandberg, 731 00:44:15,330 --> 00:44:20,760 Paula. Marissa looked hot. She looks but she needs 732 00:44:20,970 --> 00:44:23,100 she's photogenic. That's all. That's it. 733 00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:26,250 But she needs little posture training because now it looks 734 00:44:26,250 --> 00:44:29,460 like they looked like she was put there. Like, oh, here's a 735 00:44:29,460 --> 00:44:32,550 chick that was she needs to figure out how to sit. You know, 736 00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:34,890 but she looks hot. She's photogenic. Alright. 737 00:44:35,010 --> 00:44:39,360 photogenic. very photogenic. She wants to realise that. You know, 738 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,080 she's ahead of me. Yeah. Did this Sheryl Sandberg who's 739 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,530 anything but photogenic? Yeah. Was over on the other side of 740 00:44:46,530 --> 00:44:50,610 the other girl of Obama and there was somebody between Obama 741 00:44:50,610 --> 00:44:52,680 and her I can't remember who some other guy 742 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,930 that Jarrett's in there and all the dicks. 743 00:44:55,140 --> 00:44:57,690 It was just they were just yucking it up. They didn't have 744 00:44:57,690 --> 00:45:00,060 any buddies. They were supposed to go there to tell us you You 745 00:45:00,060 --> 00:45:02,310 know, just stopped the NSA from doing this. No, they weren't, 746 00:45:02,310 --> 00:45:05,670 there was just, they would just go have it's a drinking club 747 00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:07,770 and they were there to pitch. And I'm telling you, they were 748 00:45:07,770 --> 00:45:11,610 there. So maybe Salesforce or someone wanted to pitch to store 749 00:45:11,610 --> 00:45:15,600 all the data, because it can't the recommendations specifically 750 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:20,670 is a third party. But let me tell you, when these people they 751 00:45:20,670 --> 00:45:25,080 have, they just want to suck up to the power. That's all that 752 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,810 they're doing there. Every single one of them. It was so 753 00:45:27,810 --> 00:45:31,080 pathetic, please the video is linked in the show notes 575 754 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,500 that any shownotes.com Look at that video. It is so you can 755 00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:38,070 tell you can see by the body and particularly Eric Schmidt was 756 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,270 mind boggling. This is one of the richest most powerful 757 00:45:42,270 --> 00:45:48,780 technology people in the world. And he's completely molten goo. 758 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,950 But the fact that he's sitting across from the President, and 759 00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:53,760 you know these people. 760 00:45:55,770 --> 00:45:59,760 Oh, Dick, just think stuff. 761 00:46:00,210 --> 00:46:03,720 Disgusting. It was pretty disgusting. I have to say, 762 00:46:03,780 --> 00:46:08,370 here's to kind of move into the next phase here. Jake Tapper 763 00:46:08,370 --> 00:46:12,510 just give you an idea of the conversation that will be the 764 00:46:12,570 --> 00:46:14,550 this is the only thing that we'll keep talking about, even 765 00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:17,730 on this document itself says, you really can't look at this 766 00:46:17,730 --> 00:46:21,090 being a balance between security and privacy. Because it's the 767 00:46:21,090 --> 00:46:25,170 same thing as you know, the word secure, is what it's all about. 768 00:46:25,380 --> 00:46:29,880 But this is pretty much what, what what the media is going to 769 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:30,270 tell you. 770 00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:32,940 You're talking about security versus liberty. Ultimately, you 771 00:46:32,940 --> 00:46:35,790 don't hear John Boehner, your former boss complaining about 772 00:46:35,790 --> 00:46:38,370 these NSA programmes. He's actually a very strong supporter 773 00:46:38,370 --> 00:46:42,060 of them. Right and the same with a lot of Republicans. Yep, the 774 00:46:42,060 --> 00:46:44,940 Rand Paul's of the world. And yes, you have commentators 775 00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:47,880 talking about it. You have, you know, jerks like me covering it, 776 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,470 but the bottom line is, I think the American people honestly 777 00:46:53,250 --> 00:46:56,670 want security over freedom. I really do when it comes to these 778 00:46:56,670 --> 00:46:57,240 little thing. 779 00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:59,850 Yeah. Oh, Jake Tapper. Nene. He knows slip 780 00:46:59,850 --> 00:47:00,510 of the day. 781 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,140 Really? You sure know? Because I may have more. 782 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,820 No, no, you can't beat that one. Day that the following week. 783 00:47:15,330 --> 00:47:16,410 I wanted to run 784 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:21,030 believable that anybody in that sort of situation would say 785 00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:24,240 something like that, for one thing is presumptuous. I mean, 786 00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:28,350 it's condescending. It's beneath contempt. The guy's a creep for 787 00:47:28,350 --> 00:47:29,130 saying that. 788 00:47:30,210 --> 00:47:32,850 That's what he does. All right, I 789 00:47:32,850 --> 00:47:35,520 didn't know it was that bad. Now, 790 00:47:35,550 --> 00:47:38,460 I've discovered something in looking lovely. 791 00:47:38,700 --> 00:47:44,130 They'd rather be slaves under a strong government that protects 792 00:47:44,130 --> 00:47:46,890 them because they're scared little bunnies can't use that 793 00:47:47,460 --> 00:47:50,970 freedom. They want to be safe in little cages. You can't use that 794 00:47:50,970 --> 00:47:51,480 word. 795 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,360 You can't use the S word. Do you know what slave means? The 796 00:47:54,360 --> 00:48:00,120 people in America. Alright, now, here's what's interesting. This 797 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:06,570 is all about the NSA, one of our main thesis, DC, SCI, forums, 798 00:48:07,140 --> 00:48:11,580 theory theoretical games, is that there is an ongoing battle 799 00:48:11,580 --> 00:48:16,950 between agencies in particular the CIA and the NSA, the church 800 00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:25,110 committee that was predominantly against the CIA. Now, this is 801 00:48:25,110 --> 00:48:28,440 interesting, because this couldn't be a tit for tat, 802 00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:34,650 ongoing battle that spans decades. In fact, Frank Church, 803 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,960 who, who led the Church Committee, and he was a senator 804 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:45,150 from Idaho, I believe. on Meet the Press said had the following 805 00:48:45,150 --> 00:48:48,750 quote, and of course, there's no audio in the need to develop a 806 00:48:48,750 --> 00:48:51,660 capacity to know what potential enemies are doing, the United 807 00:48:51,660 --> 00:48:55,290 States government has perfected a technological capability that 808 00:48:55,290 --> 00:48:57,900 enables us to monitor the messages that go through the 809 00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:01,530 air. Now that is necessary and important to the United States 810 00:49:01,530 --> 00:49:04,320 as we look abroad at enemies or potential and or potential 811 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,440 enemies. We must know at the same time, that capability at 812 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,860 any time could be turned around on the American people. And no 813 00:49:10,860 --> 00:49:14,460 American would have any privacy left, such as the capability to 814 00:49:14,460 --> 00:49:17,640 monitor everything, telephone conversations, telegrams, it 815 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,760 doesn't matter, there would be no place to hide if this 816 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,510 government ever became a tyrant. If a dictator ever took charge 817 00:49:24,510 --> 00:49:27,540 in this country, the technological capacity the 818 00:49:27,540 --> 00:49:30,510 intelligence community has given the government could enable it 819 00:49:30,510 --> 00:49:34,020 to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight 820 00:49:34,020 --> 00:49:37,200 back because the most careful effort to combine together in 821 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,830 resistance to the government, no matter how privately was done is 822 00:49:40,830 --> 00:49:43,560 within the reach of the government to know such as the 823 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,710 capability of this technology. I don't want to see this country 824 00:49:46,740 --> 00:49:51,180 ever go across that bridge. I know the capacity that is there 825 00:49:51,180 --> 00:49:55,200 to make tyrannical tyranny total in America, and we must see to 826 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,860 it that this agency and that's the key and all agencies that 827 00:49:58,860 --> 00:50:01,800 possess this technology operate within the law and under proper 828 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,850 supervision so that we never cross over that abyss. This is 829 00:50:05,850 --> 00:50:08,490 the Abyss from which there is no return he was talking about 830 00:50:08,490 --> 00:50:12,990 without mentioning it, the NSA after he fought the CIA in the 831 00:50:12,990 --> 00:50:19,560 Church Committee. My feeling, John, is that this is just the 832 00:50:19,590 --> 00:50:24,990 pendulum coming back at the NSA. Because the CIA CIA got such a 833 00:50:24,990 --> 00:50:28,230 beating. This was about of course, the Pentagon Papers 834 00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:31,800 ultimately came from from this church committee period. This is 835 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:37,530 about Watergate. It but it was all CIA and the NSA was quietly 836 00:50:37,530 --> 00:50:40,950 building up and Here's Frank Church warning for exactly what 837 00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:44,610 we're seeing now. Exactly what we're seeing. And then the 838 00:50:44,610 --> 00:50:48,000 media, this is the thing that no one really, they knew it, but 839 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,610 they didn't really see it like that. Jake. Jake Tapper, 840 00:50:50,610 --> 00:50:57,180 asshole. The media is so in. And I pulled a number of clips, I 841 00:50:57,180 --> 00:51:02,970 felt it might my duty to pull clips from the CBS 60 minutes. 842 00:51:03,630 --> 00:51:09,870 NSA piece, which started with the most hilarious thing I've 843 00:51:09,870 --> 00:51:14,640 ever I've ever heard. This, by the way, is it something that in 844 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,050 general, we need to watch out for in journalism, and we'll 845 00:51:19,050 --> 00:51:21,300 discuss after we hear it unprecedented 846 00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:24,570 access to NSA headquarters, where we were able to speak to 847 00:51:24,570 --> 00:51:27,840 employees who have never spoken publicly before. Full 848 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,840 disclosure, I once worked in the Office of the Director of 849 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,950 National Intelligence, where I saw firsthand how secretly the 850 00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:38,310 NSA operates. It's often said, and all right, 851 00:51:38,850 --> 00:51:43,170 this full disclosure thing, I see this a lot in reporting. And 852 00:51:43,170 --> 00:51:47,040 it's like Kara Swisher would say, oh, full disclosure. I'm 853 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,340 married to a woman who's an executive at Google. Therefore, 854 00:51:50,340 --> 00:51:53,040 now that I fully disclosed this, you can believe everything I 855 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,730 say. Have you noticed this trend? Just as funny 856 00:51:56,730 --> 00:51:59,130 you say this because there's a clip I didn't pull, but I'll, 857 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,990 I'll reprise it. They run this and they ran this on democracy. 858 00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:06,780 Now. I do have two clips from from this interview that was 859 00:52:06,780 --> 00:52:09,390 done about the Washington Post Jeff Bezos in the connection to 860 00:52:09,390 --> 00:52:11,100 the CIA where they're choosing. 861 00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:13,530 That's the next piece. Yeah, well, I can't wait for that when 862 00:52:13,530 --> 00:52:13,620 you 863 00:52:13,620 --> 00:52:17,010 go to that. And they and they were talking to a professor of 864 00:52:17,010 --> 00:52:19,920 journalism up in Ithaca. And I do have a clip from him. But I 865 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,640 don't have this part where he says, he says exactly that. He 866 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,150 says, but he doesn't say it in a sceptical way. You're saying it, 867 00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:29,670 he says, Well, you know, a lot of this wouldn't be a problem if 868 00:52:29,670 --> 00:52:32,670 they would just fully disclose every time you do an article on 869 00:52:32,670 --> 00:52:36,780 the CIA that Jeff Bezos is associated with the CIA because 870 00:52:36,780 --> 00:52:40,080 of their $600 million contract to do with the server farm for 871 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,310 the CIA. Well, and that was so out of the blue, I'm thinking 872 00:52:44,310 --> 00:52:48,060 and I was thinking to myself, you know, exactly what you're 873 00:52:48,060 --> 00:52:51,180 thinking, What good does it do? I mean, it's not I think it's a, 874 00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:54,840 you have to mention it occasionally. But I think for 875 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,570 the most part in today's world, people can kind of know it's 876 00:52:57,570 --> 00:52:59,970 becoming two together, or maybe you shouldn't be doing a story. 877 00:52:59,970 --> 00:53:00,420 I know. 878 00:53:00,450 --> 00:53:04,950 Thank you. It's becoming a meme. That if you as long as you say 879 00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:08,100 full disclosure, people like oh, he disclosed it. That doesn't 880 00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:10,020 mean that all of a sudden the reporting is going to be non 881 00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:14,100 biassed, I got a great email from one of our producers. I had 882 00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:15,930 already clipped this. And he said, Oh, Adam, just so you 883 00:53:15,930 --> 00:53:21,000 know, this, John Miller, who was chosen to do the 60 minute piece 884 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,230 on the NSA. And by 885 00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:25,590 the way, John Miller has, as far as I can tell, has never done 886 00:53:25,620 --> 00:53:29,640 anything for 60 minutes except this Oh, why didn't they send in 887 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:30,960 one of their regular guys? 888 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,430 The answer, as part of the deal for CBS to get the exclusive the 889 00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:38,520 NSA demanded the reporter be someone who had previously held 890 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,360 a security clearance. Because a security clearance means you 891 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,890 sign a lifetime non disclosure agreement that covers not just 892 00:53:46,890 --> 00:53:49,680 classified information you may be privy to in your work, but 893 00:53:49,860 --> 00:53:53,880 all classified information, even leaked classified information 894 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,350 that you've seen in your entire life. So him doing this with 895 00:53:58,350 --> 00:54:02,220 this legally binding nondisclosure agreement, is the 896 00:54:02,220 --> 00:54:06,300 reason why they let him in at all, so nothing that they could 897 00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:09,690 classify whatever get out by through this reporter. 898 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,780 It's worse than that, because what it also indicates, which is 899 00:54:12,810 --> 00:54:16,950 the crazy part of it, is that anything that Snowden revealed, 900 00:54:17,250 --> 00:54:18,900 could not be used as a question. 901 00:54:18,930 --> 00:54:23,220 Exactly. That's exactly correct. And so he could 902 00:54:23,220 --> 00:54:26,100 not counter anything that whatever was said if he had 903 00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:30,120 evidence to the contrary, based on these leaks, he couldn't 904 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,960 bring it up. Question Exactly. Is he'd be thrown in the slammer 905 00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:38,850 and people and CBS put up with this bullshit. What is wrong 906 00:54:38,850 --> 00:54:41,850 with these guys? It is just they have this Laurel Logan, who's an 907 00:54:41,850 --> 00:54:45,180 obviously a corrupt reporter. And now we have this and these 908 00:54:45,180 --> 00:54:47,520 guys expect people to take them seriously. Yes, 909 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,300 because we have become anaesthetised to the whole full 910 00:54:51,300 --> 00:54:54,570 disclosure. You can't this is that you can't the full 911 00:54:54,570 --> 00:54:57,810 disclosure would have been. I have a lifetime non disclosure 912 00:54:57,810 --> 00:55:01,950 agreement I can't even ask about in information that has been 913 00:55:01,950 --> 00:55:05,250 leaked because I can't even talk about it if it's classified, 914 00:55:05,370 --> 00:55:08,310 and four, I am really in the nondisclosure. You can't say 915 00:55:08,310 --> 00:55:10,230 that either. Exactly. 916 00:55:10,620 --> 00:55:14,700 Exactly. So this is the Tiffany network. Well, oh wait, Walter 917 00:55:14,700 --> 00:55:18,990 Cronkite just puked in his mouth. Or is it Edward R. 918 00:55:18,990 --> 00:55:22,350 Murrow? I can't remember. Someone puked. It is 919 00:55:22,410 --> 00:55:26,490 unconscionable that 22nd 15 seconds of Oh, full disclosure, 920 00:55:26,490 --> 00:55:31,650 I used to work in the DNI office. Wow. Wow. Okay. So while 921 00:55:31,650 --> 00:55:35,250 we're at it, he might as well just sell the lie. And when you 922 00:55:35,250 --> 00:55:37,260 listen to and this is what's so beautiful, when you don't see 923 00:55:37,260 --> 00:55:40,890 that guy's big head that John Miller's Big Head, filling up my 924 00:55:40,890 --> 00:55:47,070 screen, my 4k screen. When you don't see his head, and you 925 00:55:47,070 --> 00:55:50,400 listen, you can hear how he is. It's almost like it's scripted. 926 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,270 If a terrorist is suspected of having contacts inside the 927 00:55:54,270 --> 00:55:58,350 United States, the NSA can query a database that contains the 928 00:55:58,350 --> 00:56:03,150 metadata of every phone call made in the US going back five 929 00:56:03,150 --> 00:56:07,080 years. So you understand then there might be a little 930 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,100 confusion among Americans who read in the newspaper, that the 931 00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:15,180 NSA has vacuumed up the records of the telephone calls of every 932 00:56:15,180 --> 00:56:17,970 man, woman and child in the United States for a period of 933 00:56:17,970 --> 00:56:22,560 years. That sounds like spying on Americans. 934 00:56:22,830 --> 00:56:26,220 Right? And that's wrong. That's absolutely wrong. 935 00:56:26,250 --> 00:56:28,860 There's no you don't hear the call. You don't hear the call? 936 00:56:28,890 --> 00:56:29,910 You don't see the name. 937 00:56:29,940 --> 00:56:32,670 He's telling. He's giving him the answers. He's not asking 938 00:56:32,670 --> 00:56:34,200 questions. You don't see 939 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,200 the names, you just see this number called that number. 940 00:56:37,410 --> 00:56:41,160 This is not an interview. He isn't he's answering questions 941 00:56:41,250 --> 00:56:45,540 that this number, the two from number, the duration of the call 942 00:56:45,540 --> 00:56:48,660 and the date time group, that's all you get it all we can do is 943 00:56:48,660 --> 00:56:52,590 tell the FBI, that number is talking to somebody who is very 944 00:56:52,590 --> 00:56:54,030 bad, you have to go look at, 945 00:56:54,540 --> 00:56:56,640 by the way, one of the recommendations in the report I 946 00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:01,320 just remembered is that the and this is an extension of powers. 947 00:57:02,010 --> 00:57:05,520 The recommendation is if the FBI if someone travels to the United 948 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:10,860 States, the NSA will be given 72 hours to continue to follow him, 949 00:57:11,130 --> 00:57:13,980 instead of currently where they are supposedly supposed to stop 950 00:57:13,980 --> 00:57:19,050 and then handed over to the FBI. So it's an extension of power 72 951 00:57:19,050 --> 00:57:21,150 hours extra. All right. 952 00:57:21,750 --> 00:57:25,020 I gotta interrupt you, for sure. Sure. As you're gone into the 953 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,830 Alexandria and is bullcrap, I think we can make a segment out 954 00:57:28,830 --> 00:57:32,130 of this because during a hearing, Alexandria came up with 955 00:57:32,130 --> 00:57:38,310 another analogy. Another bad analogy is kind of like the 956 00:57:38,310 --> 00:57:41,310 excuse for using this metadata. Because I think that you 957 00:57:41,310 --> 00:57:43,860 shouldn't use the analogy. And you didn't do any of these joke 958 00:57:43,860 --> 00:57:47,310 analogies on 60 minutes. But this one here is just a much as 959 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,610 an eye roller as the submarine one billions 960 00:57:50,610 --> 00:57:53,730 and billions of books of information that are out there. 961 00:57:54,030 --> 00:57:57,360 There is no viable way to go through that information if you 962 00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,470 don't use metadata. In this case, metadata is a way of 963 00:58:01,470 --> 00:58:05,070 knowing where those books are in the library, and a way of 964 00:58:05,070 --> 00:58:09,330 focusing our collection, the same that our allies do to look 965 00:58:09,330 --> 00:58:12,930 at where are the bad books. From our perspective, from the 966 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,080 National Security Agency's perspective, what we do is get 967 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,140 great insights into the bad actors overseas. 968 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,980 I think we need to start burning books again. Bad books bad Well, 969 00:58:23,010 --> 00:58:26,250 you know what we will turn into a segment here is something 970 00:58:26,250 --> 00:58:27,810 about a bad book that New York 971 00:58:27,810 --> 00:58:31,650 Daily News says the author of The Anarchist Cookbook wants his 972 00:58:31,650 --> 00:58:35,760 work pulled from shelves, linked to last week's Colorado high 973 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,430 school shooting burn Areum Pauwels guide includes 974 00:58:38,430 --> 00:58:41,940 instructions on making explosives burn it, I say 975 00:58:41,940 --> 00:58:45,930 burn it. That's where we're that's where we're headed people 976 00:58:45,930 --> 00:58:47,190 don't worry, don't worry. 977 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:53,520 Okay. Now, of course, you can't do anything in any kind of fear 978 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,810 based programme, unless you link it to 911. This is this is this 979 00:58:57,810 --> 00:59:01,620 is our standard. This is how we do it. Here's how we roll. We 980 00:59:01,620 --> 00:59:04,620 know it's a part of the talking points. Let's roll back to 911. 981 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,350 And these phone calls may go between different phone 982 00:59:07,350 --> 00:59:10,410 companies. If you only go to one company, you'll see what that 983 00:59:10,410 --> 00:59:13,290 phone company has, but you may not see what the other phone 984 00:59:13,290 --> 00:59:16,980 company has or the other. So by putting those together, we can 985 00:59:16,980 --> 00:59:19,440 see all of that, essentially at one time. 986 00:59:20,610 --> 00:59:24,450 Before 911 Did we have this capability? We did not? Is it a 987 00:59:24,450 --> 00:59:25,950 factor? Was it a factor? 988 00:59:25,980 --> 00:59:27,660 I believe it was what 989 00:59:27,660 --> 00:59:28,560 General Alexander 990 00:59:28,590 --> 00:59:31,890 no wait now listen to this. Now this is interesting. So this is 991 00:59:32,070 --> 00:59:35,250 this is typical. Don't play with that thing. Jon's annoying when 992 00:59:35,250 --> 00:59:35,880 I'm trying to think 993 00:59:37,290 --> 00:59:39,060 I was just dropping a coin in a jar. 994 00:59:40,590 --> 00:59:46,140 This is very annoying when you have a interviewer ask a 995 00:59:46,140 --> 00:59:50,970 question. And then the subject answers the question, but then 996 00:59:50,970 --> 00:59:56,700 they turn down the his volume and then over his answer. Say 997 00:59:56,730 --> 01:00:02,100 what the answer is, this is this is the Worst, lowest form of 998 01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:04,170 journalism. There is. 999 01:00:04,590 --> 01:00:05,700 I believe it was. 1000 01:00:05,970 --> 01:00:08,970 What General Alexander is talking about is that two of the 1001 01:00:08,970 --> 01:00:13,500 911 hijackers Khalid al midbar, and the wife alHazmi. Were in 1002 01:00:13,500 --> 01:00:17,700 touch with an al Qaeda safehouse in Yemen. The NSA did not know 1003 01:00:17,700 --> 01:00:21,360 their calls were coming from California as they would today. 1004 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,650 I think this was the factor that allowed mudhar. 1005 01:00:25,740 --> 01:00:27,420 So did you hear what they just did there? 1006 01:00:28,410 --> 01:00:30,930 Yeah, yeah, they took there. He was saying something. But it 1007 01:00:30,930 --> 01:00:34,800 wasn't even it was. Yeah, they were they were amplifying a 1008 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:39,480 point. Yes, using a trick. But we're using a TV trick without 1009 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,140 even voicing over the guy's actual comments. And you see, 1010 01:00:43,140 --> 01:00:45,360 and you see, explain it to the idiots watching the 1011 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:50,100 show. And we don't even know what he said. All right, if 1012 01:00:50,100 --> 01:00:53,880 you're a sysadmin, the war is on you got all kinds 1013 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,840 of figures out there about how much he took how many documents? 1014 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,840 We've been told 1.7 1015 01:01:00,930 --> 01:01:05,340 million. And by the way, this number is it was it's the CBS 1016 01:01:05,340 --> 01:01:09,090 number. We have no idea where this comes from. There's even 1017 01:01:09,090 --> 01:01:12,810 Glenn Greenwald on rough has not given us this number. This is an 1018 01:01:12,810 --> 01:01:15,630 interesting number. We have no idea about this, but okay. 1019 01:01:15,930 --> 01:01:16,830 I wouldn't dispute that. 1020 01:01:17,820 --> 01:01:19,680 How is that possible? 1021 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:24,900 So the people who control that the access to those machines are 1022 01:01:24,900 --> 01:01:29,640 called system administrators, ah sis admins may have passwords 1023 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:34,800 that give them the the ability to go around those security 1024 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,990 measures. And, and that's what Snowden did. 1025 01:01:37,740 --> 01:01:39,780 I think, you know, how, here's, 1026 01:01:39,810 --> 01:01:41,130 here's my prediction, okay, 1027 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,050 I have a prediction about this to go ahead. 1028 01:01:43,950 --> 01:01:48,930 Sis admins are going to be required to get licenced. And 1029 01:01:48,930 --> 01:01:52,380 they will all receive what a variation of a national security 1030 01:01:52,380 --> 01:01:56,730 letter that will require them to, to not do certain things, 1031 01:01:56,730 --> 01:02:00,000 report certain things and actually be a partner with the 1032 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,200 government. You know, 1033 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:06,630 how in in a nunnery in a convent all that they only have Unix 1034 01:02:06,630 --> 01:02:09,240 around. I think that's where we're headed. 1035 01:02:09,810 --> 01:02:11,280 To get a cut the nuts off, 1036 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,090 just add milk your eyes out, yeah, you'll have one 1037 01:02:15,090 --> 01:02:18,630 capability. So maybe you can use your hands. And but you'll have 1038 01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:21,000 to have the guy with the eyes to sit next to you, they're going 1039 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,870 to disable you one way or the other. If that didn't work, 1040 01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:27,690 that's one. That's the extent to which these people are crazy, 1041 01:02:27,690 --> 01:02:33,570 John. And, of course, we know sis admins and I know a 1042 01:02:33,570 --> 01:02:37,710 sysadmin, who worked on the drone programme. When this 1043 01:02:37,710 --> 01:02:42,030 sysadmin left. They said hey, would you please change the root 1044 01:02:42,030 --> 01:02:45,690 password and give it to you to the next guy? Are you kidding 1045 01:02:45,690 --> 01:02:49,560 me? This is how dumb it is that just dumb. These people that are 1046 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,380 fiefdoms. They don't give a crap about security. Really, they 1047 01:02:52,380 --> 01:02:57,720 just one. It's disgusting. And of course, it's the Chinese 1048 01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:58,620 provided as part of that. 1049 01:02:58,710 --> 01:03:01,950 So I'm going to assume that there's one in there about 1050 01:03:01,950 --> 01:03:04,440 China. And there's one in there about Iran. And there's another 1051 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:05,370 in there about Russia, 1052 01:03:05,790 --> 01:03:08,100 many more than let me just get this straight. We're about to 1053 01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:12,120 accuse China and Russia and Iran of hacking and spying and being 1054 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:12,780 horrible one, 1055 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,920 if it's many more than one. Yes. How many of those are there? 1056 01:03:17,130 --> 01:03:18,240 31,000? 1057 01:03:18,330 --> 01:03:22,110 If those documents fell into their hands, what good would it 1058 01:03:22,110 --> 01:03:22,530 do them? 1059 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,490 It would give them a roadmap of what we know what we don't know. 1060 01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:31,950 And give them implicitly way to protect 1061 01:03:32,010 --> 01:03:37,140 the exactly so we then now we go into the dashboard. This is so 1062 01:03:37,140 --> 01:03:40,290 funny, because this is this is the proof that these are 1063 01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,810 basically Silicon Valley Yahoo's 1064 01:03:43,170 --> 01:03:46,740 twice a week under the dim blue lights of the NSA Operation 1065 01:03:46,740 --> 01:03:50,460 Centre. The director is given a briefing. Sure we added three 1066 01:03:50,460 --> 01:03:54,450 new hostage cases this week with his deputy Chris English General 1067 01:03:54,450 --> 01:03:57,900 Alexander listens to a rundown of global issues and 1068 01:03:57,900 --> 01:04:01,920 international crises the NSA may be asked to collect intelligence 1069 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:06,420 on Sir moving to Afghanistan the meeting is called the stand up 1070 01:04:06,450 --> 01:04:07,920 because no one sits down 1071 01:04:09,060 --> 01:04:12,600 this is when they're wearing camo this is this well I got an 1072 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,900 answer about that. I got the answer to the same letter from 1073 01:04:15,900 --> 01:04:17,190 the guy that talked about the camo 1074 01:04:17,220 --> 01:04:20,790 Yeah, we got it we got a camo letter. Okay, but the standup is 1075 01:04:20,790 --> 01:04:25,050 a Silicon Valley thing. Oh, I remember this Emilio that we had 1076 01:04:25,050 --> 01:04:29,580 a new Dez C CTO came in and he decided we should do a stand up 1077 01:04:29,580 --> 01:04:31,770 meeting all the engineers change the 1078 01:04:31,770 --> 01:04:35,430 name of the meeting to stand up the daily stand up No, but there 1079 01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:39,570 was a other thing that was changed and we go on who cares? 1080 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,530 It's just this the whole culture of this thing is just creepy. 1081 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:44,460 This especially 1082 01:04:44,460 --> 01:04:47,580 in the camp with a camo on which is 1083 01:04:47,610 --> 01:04:52,770 okay, well the camo is standard apparently. We got so many 1084 01:04:52,770 --> 01:04:56,910 people yelling at us. Snipers. The camo 1085 01:04:56,910 --> 01:05:00,690 is standard. That just we were wrong about the camo But the 1086 01:05:00,690 --> 01:05:05,430 three words that yeah we were the perception from yes we were 1087 01:05:05,730 --> 01:05:09,600 our assumption is as stupid I was that wrong. 1088 01:05:09,660 --> 01:05:12,030 That's not your right. I'm sorry I forgot that was our 1089 01:05:12,030 --> 01:05:16,740 assumption. It's they're comfortable apparently. All 1090 01:05:16,740 --> 01:05:19,200 right, here's the Alexandre setting up the pitch could take 1091 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,830 down anything from the power grid to Wall Street. Could a 1092 01:05:22,830 --> 01:05:25,500 foreign country tomorrow topple our financial system? 1093 01:05:26,970 --> 01:05:32,940 I believe that a foreign nation could impact and destroy major 1094 01:05:32,940 --> 01:05:34,110 portions of our finances. The 1095 01:05:34,110 --> 01:05:38,850 question is, how much of it could we stop? Well, right now 1096 01:05:38,850 --> 01:05:38,940 it 1097 01:05:38,940 --> 01:05:42,090 would be difficult to stop it because our ability to see it is 1098 01:05:42,090 --> 01:05:42,570 limited. 1099 01:05:43,259 --> 01:05:46,079 One thing I didn't see coming was called the BIOS plot. 1100 01:05:46,709 --> 01:05:50,759 This is my favourite. This is the one that anyone who has any 1101 01:05:50,759 --> 01:05:54,869 knowledge of how things work saw right through now Kaiser 1102 01:05:54,869 --> 01:05:58,349 Alexander is smart. He's not going to roll this bull crap out 1103 01:05:58,349 --> 01:06:01,799 himself. So here let's push a woman out there. Oh, wait, let's 1104 01:06:01,799 --> 01:06:06,329 push a black woman out that's even funnier. This I'm telling 1105 01:06:06,329 --> 01:06:10,799 you, John, this is how these people think. And did you see 1106 01:06:11,099 --> 01:06:13,409 you saw this You saw what happened this is this is 1107 01:06:13,409 --> 01:06:18,659 disgusting. Make her tell the big lie about the bios that 1108 01:06:18,659 --> 01:06:20,009 brick the economy 1109 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,070 Plunkett direct saw Yeah, this was horrible. This is 1110 01:06:23,070 --> 01:06:26,010 really, really bad. And they made her tell it which was just 1111 01:06:26,130 --> 01:06:27,030 disgusting. 1112 01:06:27,060 --> 01:06:31,440 The NSA. And for the first time discusses the agency's role in 1113 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,210 discovering the plot. One of 1114 01:06:33,210 --> 01:06:36,780 our analysts actually saw that the nation state had the 1115 01:06:36,780 --> 01:06:39,900 intention to develop and to deliver to actually use this 1116 01:06:39,900 --> 01:06:44,760 capability to destroy computers. Destroy computer to destroy 1117 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,100 computers. So the BIOS is a basic 1118 01:06:47,130 --> 01:06:48,900 three times in a row. Did you hear that? Yeah, 1119 01:06:48,930 --> 01:06:51,180 destroy computers, destroy computers, destroy computers. 1120 01:06:51,180 --> 01:06:55,740 That's how you remember things. This is Mind control people's 60 1121 01:06:55,740 --> 01:06:56,310 minutes says 1122 01:06:56,310 --> 01:06:59,550 destroy computers. He says destroy computers. She says, 1123 01:06:59,550 --> 01:07:03,240 Because destroy computers, you were 123 punch, you remember? 1124 01:07:04,260 --> 01:07:09,060 And 60 minutes is what? The intelligencia with the elites. 1125 01:07:09,210 --> 01:07:13,170 What is school people, my friends in Austin, Texas, watch 1126 01:07:13,170 --> 01:07:17,340 60 minutes and take it as truth. Yes, they take this like it's 60 1127 01:07:17,340 --> 01:07:20,220 minutes, man, they take it as truth. They take it as truth, 1128 01:07:20,220 --> 01:07:21,870 they take it as true take it as truth. 1129 01:07:22,530 --> 01:07:25,680 Truth destroyed, destroyed computers, destroy computers 1130 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:26,490 destroyed computer 1131 01:07:26,910 --> 01:07:30,930 is a basic input output system. It's like the foundational 1132 01:07:31,170 --> 01:07:33,480 component firmware of a computer, you start your 1133 01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:37,890 computer up, the BIOS kicks in, it activates hardware, it 1134 01:07:37,890 --> 01:07:40,680 activates the operating system, it turns on the computer. 1135 01:07:40,890 --> 01:07:44,100 This is the bio system which starts most computers, the 1136 01:07:44,100 --> 01:07:46,980 attack would have been disguised as a request for a software 1137 01:07:46,980 --> 01:07:50,940 update. If the user agreed, the virus would have infected the 1138 01:07:50,940 --> 01:07:55,470 computer. So this basically would have gone into the system 1139 01:07:55,470 --> 01:07:58,830 that starts up the computer runs the systems tells it what to do 1140 01:07:58,860 --> 01:08:02,640 that's right. And basically turned it into a cinderblock a 1141 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,060 brick. And after that, there wouldn't be much you could do 1142 01:08:06,060 --> 01:08:06,930 with that computer. 1143 01:08:07,050 --> 01:08:09,900 That's all on a second hold on Stop, Stop the presses stop, the 1144 01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:13,080 presses are stopped. So you're telling me the government is 1145 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,770 buying computers that don't have a factory reset hard reset that 1146 01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,890 on the motherboard, which all of them do that I got machines all 1147 01:08:19,890 --> 01:08:22,710 over the place. And there's a little clip you put on and it 1148 01:08:22,710 --> 01:08:26,520 resets the BIOS to factory reset in case something like this 1149 01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,030 happens. So how was this a cinderblock? Or a brick? Does it 1150 01:08:30,150 --> 01:08:33,480 make the thing catch on fire? I mean, what am I missing here? 1151 01:08:34,440 --> 01:08:36,780 Are they just full of crap? Ah, that would 1152 01:08:36,780 --> 01:08:43,410 be it. I will point out that this of course, this is a major 1153 01:08:43,410 --> 01:08:47,550 security issue. It's an issue with the Microsoft Update 1154 01:08:47,550 --> 01:08:51,150 Tuesday it's an issue with any any centralised updating system, 1155 01:08:51,150 --> 01:08:56,820 it is probably the most looked after system in any computer or 1156 01:08:57,690 --> 01:09:02,610 peripheral company. Interesting that one of the recommendations 1157 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:10,410 of the of this document, the 300 page document is specifically 1158 01:09:10,710 --> 01:09:15,270 specifically to allow the NSA under certain such circumstances 1159 01:09:15,270 --> 01:09:18,930 to launch zero day attacks. It says it's specifically in the 1160 01:09:18,930 --> 01:09:24,210 document that under certain circumstances, the NSA should be 1161 01:09:24,210 --> 01:09:27,870 allowed to launch zero day exploits and attacks to protect 1162 01:09:27,870 --> 01:09:31,080 our national security. And this is a good way to do that. 1163 01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:34,410 Think about the impact of that across the entire globe. It 1164 01:09:34,410 --> 01:09:37,050 could literally take down the US economy. 1165 01:09:37,559 --> 01:09:41,129 I don't think so. What is she saying? She's 1166 01:09:41,130 --> 01:09:45,270 insane. This woman should be ashamed of herself. Oh, 1167 01:09:45,270 --> 01:09:48,300 she shouldn't she's just she's being pushed to do this. It's 1168 01:09:48,300 --> 01:09:50,280 shameful they made her do this. 1169 01:09:51,089 --> 01:09:52,169 I don't mean to be flip 1170 01:09:52,170 --> 01:09:56,790 about this, but But okay, standby. Standby. Here it comes. 1171 01:09:56,790 --> 01:09:57,240 It has 1172 01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:02,400 a kind of a little Dr. Evil quality I'm going to develop a 1173 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:06,570 programme that can destroy every computer in the world. It sounds 1174 01:10:06,570 --> 01:10:08,910 almost unbelievable. Don't be fooled. 1175 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:16,170 Don't be, don't be absolutely destroying every. Second, you 1176 01:10:16,170 --> 01:10:17,070 got to hear that last bit. 1177 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:22,290 programme that can destroy every computer in the world. It sounds 1178 01:10:22,290 --> 01:10:23,370 almost unbelievable. 1179 01:10:23,820 --> 01:10:28,140 Don't be fooled. There are absolutely nation states who 1180 01:10:28,140 --> 01:10:31,320 have the capability and the intentions to do just that. 1181 01:10:31,349 --> 01:10:34,469 Based on what you learned here at NSA, would it have worked? 1182 01:10:35,460 --> 01:10:36,300 We believe it would have 1183 01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:40,380 Yes, it would have worked and they stopped it, John. They they 1184 01:10:40,380 --> 01:10:43,350 stop it the BIOS bricking, I don't know, they killed they 1185 01:10:43,350 --> 01:10:44,700 stick they saw the guy who was 1186 01:10:44,969 --> 01:10:47,309 evidence or they have this shot. And if somebody wants to do 1187 01:10:47,309 --> 01:10:49,019 this, because they are out to get us why don't they do it? 1188 01:10:49,019 --> 01:10:50,819 Now? What's the point? Why wait? 1189 01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,070 A couple more quick, really quick hits here. I had a 1190 01:10:56,070 --> 01:10:56,820 question about this. 1191 01:10:56,820 --> 01:11:00,090 This week, the CEOs of eight major internet providers, 1192 01:11:00,090 --> 01:11:03,690 including Google, Apple and Yahoo. asked the president for 1193 01:11:03,690 --> 01:11:06,810 new limits to be placed on the NSA his ability to collect 1194 01:11:06,810 --> 01:11:08,820 personal information from their users. 1195 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:13,860 What exactly I don't like this internet provider meme anymore. 1196 01:11:13,890 --> 01:11:17,310 He's not they're not internet providers. Exactly. And they're 1197 01:11:17,310 --> 01:11:20,490 providers of service. Zhan the internet. Yes. This is what an 1198 01:11:20,490 --> 01:11:22,980 internet providers essentially an ISP is 1199 01:11:22,980 --> 01:11:25,140 more interesting, the actual internet providers weren't 1200 01:11:25,140 --> 01:11:28,830 there. This is this is the whole joke. The internet providers 1201 01:11:28,830 --> 01:11:33,210 were not at the meeting. The guys who actually open up the 1202 01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,810 light port so that the NSA can tap in they're not there. They 1203 01:11:36,810 --> 01:11:40,140 got nothing to say like, oh, yeah, urine. And here's, here's 1204 01:11:40,140 --> 01:11:43,830 proof in Kaiser, Alexander's words, that they are sucking it 1205 01:11:43,830 --> 01:11:45,330 up from the network. So our 1206 01:11:45,330 --> 01:11:48,000 objective is to collect those communications no matter where 1207 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,390 they are. But we're not going into a facility are targeting 1208 01:11:51,390 --> 01:11:55,380 Google as an entity or Yahoo is an entity, but we will collect 1209 01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:59,730 those communications of terrorists that flow on that 1210 01:11:59,730 --> 01:12:01,080 network sources 1211 01:12:01,170 --> 01:12:05,550 as long as it flows on the network. You see, it flows on 1212 01:12:05,550 --> 01:12:11,760 the network John, that's what it's about. There is here's 1213 01:12:12,090 --> 01:12:14,310 gotta go back to the document that I have one final clip and 1214 01:12:14,310 --> 01:12:18,330 around this out. These these Yahoo's these these geniuses, 1215 01:12:18,330 --> 01:12:22,950 these shills who wrote this report had the near the end they 1216 01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:27,900 say it might reduce budgetary costs and political risk. If 1217 01:12:27,900 --> 01:12:31,470 technical collection agencies could make use of artificial 1218 01:12:31,470 --> 01:12:35,970 intelligence software that could be launched onto networks, and 1219 01:12:35,970 --> 01:12:39,300 will be able to determine in real time what precise 1220 01:12:39,300 --> 01:12:43,410 information packet should be collected. Such smart software 1221 01:12:43,410 --> 01:12:46,560 will be making the sorting decision online, as 1222 01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,470 distinguished from current situation in which vast amounts 1223 01:12:49,470 --> 01:12:52,350 of data are swept up. And the sorting is done after it has 1224 01:12:52,350 --> 01:12:55,650 been copied onto the data storage systems. were unable to 1225 01:12:55,650 --> 01:12:58,980 determine whether this concept is feasible or fantasy. But we 1226 01:12:58,980 --> 01:13:02,280 suggest that should be examined by an inter agency information 1227 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:06,240 technology research team, Bonanza, 1228 01:13:06,330 --> 01:13:08,550 that's what I just use your read. That's the first thing I'm 1229 01:13:08,550 --> 01:13:11,760 thinking. I'm wondering what JC is going to do next. Next 1230 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,450 programming. It'll be that it says hundreds of millions of 1231 01:13:15,450 --> 01:13:18,810 dollars down the drain. I guarantee Richard Clarke will be 1232 01:13:18,810 --> 01:13:19,650 in it somehow. 1233 01:13:20,010 --> 01:13:22,860 Of course he will. That's why he wrote it right in there. This is 1234 01:13:22,860 --> 01:13:24,330 his setup for the next 1235 01:13:24,660 --> 01:13:27,540 set of verges scoring the big dough. 1236 01:13:27,570 --> 01:13:31,440 Oh, yeah. And then there's a one other thing you'll hear is a 1237 01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:34,740 recommendation that a civilian should be running the agency. 1238 01:13:35,070 --> 01:13:38,730 Now, let me just tell you what that means. That's code. Okay. 1239 01:13:38,910 --> 01:13:44,160 And this is code for a spy. My uncle Don, when he they would 1240 01:13:44,190 --> 01:13:47,370 you would read about him in the, in his early career in the New 1241 01:13:47,370 --> 01:13:50,640 York Times he would say Donald Greg civilian at the Pentagon. 1242 01:13:50,910 --> 01:13:55,650 This is code. They want a CIA guy to run the NSA. 1243 01:13:55,740 --> 01:13:59,040 Yeah, that bought Obama Nix that already. We know that. 1244 01:14:00,180 --> 01:14:02,820 And then while we're at it, but just just to finish up the whole 1245 01:14:02,820 --> 01:14:07,410 60 minutes, why don't we completely discredit Edward 1246 01:14:07,410 --> 01:14:10,530 Snowden by making him seem completely kooky. 1247 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,140 He was taking a technical examination for potential 1248 01:14:13,140 --> 01:14:16,650 employers and no cheat. Did I say he used a system 1249 01:14:16,650 --> 01:14:20,610 administrator privileges to go into the account of the NSA 1250 01:14:20,610 --> 01:14:23,040 employee who was administering that test? 1251 01:14:23,250 --> 01:14:25,980 This is the guy you want to promote? Isn't this the guy 1252 01:14:25,980 --> 01:14:26,640 who's uh, yeah, it is. 1253 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,550 But by that, did you miss the mean? They threw the me Mattis 1254 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,070 high school dropout? Yeah. 1255 01:14:32,460 --> 01:14:35,040 I was taking a technical examination. I forgot to put 1256 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,040 that in your writing for potential employment and NSA. He 1257 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,220 used a system administrator privileges to go into the 1258 01:14:41,220 --> 01:14:45,570 account of the NSA employee who was administering that test. And 1259 01:14:45,570 --> 01:14:49,290 he took both the questions and the answers and use them to pass 1260 01:14:49,290 --> 01:14:49,860 the test. 1261 01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,580 At home, they discovered Snowden had some strange habits. 1262 01:14:53,670 --> 01:14:56,880 He would work on the computer with a hood that covered the 1263 01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,790 computer screen and covered his head and shoulders so that he 1264 01:14:59,790 --> 01:15:02,910 could work in his, his girlfriend couldn't see what he 1265 01:15:02,910 --> 01:15:03,420 was doing. 1266 01:15:03,510 --> 01:15:07,320 This seems like standard procedure to me. But no, no, no, 1267 01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:08,460 let's call it very 1268 01:15:08,490 --> 01:15:11,610 exposed to be he was what protecting the data. He's doing 1269 01:15:11,610 --> 01:15:13,860 his job. Yeah, but no, that's kooky. 1270 01:15:13,890 --> 01:15:14,370 That's pretty 1271 01:15:14,370 --> 01:15:17,850 strange. sitting at your computer kind of covered by a 1272 01:15:17,850 --> 01:15:21,540 sheet over your head and the screen. Agree. Agreed, agreed, 1273 01:15:21,570 --> 01:15:26,400 agreed. Agreed. We also learned for the first time that part of 1274 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,790 the damage assessment considered the possibility that Snowden 1275 01:15:29,790 --> 01:15:33,630 could have left a bug or virus behind on the NSA system. Yeah, 1276 01:15:33,630 --> 01:15:33,840 this 1277 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,740 is the funny I love this part like a time bomb a time bomb, 1278 01:15:38,190 --> 01:15:40,080 like a time bomb it's 1279 01:15:42,090 --> 01:15:46,830 so all the the machines that he had access to, we removed from 1280 01:15:46,830 --> 01:15:50,430 our classified network, all the machines in the unclassified 1281 01:15:50,430 --> 01:15:54,180 network and including the actual cables that connect those 1282 01:15:54,180 --> 01:15:56,160 machines. We removed the cables, 1283 01:15:56,580 --> 01:16:00,780 the game could be lurking in the cables is are you telling me 1284 01:16:00,780 --> 01:16:03,570 that that's the technical expertise of this entire 1285 01:16:03,570 --> 01:16:07,920 organisation has gone to removing cables yet probably 1286 01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,500 because they're afraid there's some evil thing lurking in the 1287 01:16:10,500 --> 01:16:14,460 cable problem solved. Problem solving macro, this is the this 1288 01:16:14,460 --> 01:16:17,790 is the most frightening thing they said on that show. This has 1289 01:16:17,790 --> 01:16:21,090 to have cost millions and millions of dollars 1290 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,820 10s of millions and million millions. All right. 1291 01:16:23,820 --> 01:16:27,510 So to summarise everybody. This document, which is now being 1292 01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:31,890 touted as a great recommendation is nothing more than a big 1293 01:16:31,890 --> 01:16:34,830 bonanza for some of the, by the way, morale is leaving, you 1294 01:16:34,830 --> 01:16:37,680 know, he'll wind up at some kind of cut Oh, yeah, it does this 1295 01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:38,070 stuff 1296 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,500 CEO, the chairman of the board, 1297 01:16:40,980 --> 01:16:43,530 not gonna we're not gonna run a thing just get paid. And 1298 01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,450 you won't be sitting here right? He'll be just beginning to 1299 01:16:45,450 --> 01:16:47,490 calculate. They're gonna build, 1300 01:16:47,490 --> 01:16:49,140 they're gonna build this software, which is a 1301 01:16:49,140 --> 01:16:53,520 recommendation, the NSA is going to have much easier access. 1302 01:16:53,730 --> 01:16:56,820 It'll be interesting to see I have a feeling that there is 1303 01:16:56,820 --> 01:16:59,490 going to be a pitch and there will be a third party I think 1304 01:16:59,490 --> 01:17:03,930 that I I have a feeling that that's it's just it's too nice 1305 01:17:03,930 --> 01:17:07,110 of an opportunity. Too much money with too much money. And 1306 01:17:07,110 --> 01:17:09,840 it could be Adobe who couldn't do all they have to do is just 1307 01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,710 walk it across the street in Utah, the data centres right 1308 01:17:13,710 --> 01:17:15,870 across from the NSA, when Adobe 1309 01:17:15,870 --> 01:17:17,940 has been left out of the picture, they weren't given the 1310 01:17:17,940 --> 01:17:20,520 opportunity to sit at the table with Obama and Yuk it up and 1311 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,940 drink. Well, they're probably they they may be you might be 1312 01:17:23,940 --> 01:17:27,750 right. They may be this. I think that a pro Adobe waltz in 1313 01:17:27,780 --> 01:17:30,420 Yep. So I have a feeling that Adobe is ready for they already 1314 01:17:30,420 --> 01:17:34,380 have the information. I'm going to share. Please look at 1315 01:17:34,410 --> 01:17:37,440 Omniture look at what it's doing. Look at what it stores 1316 01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:40,440 look at what the information look at their white papers. They 1317 01:17:40,440 --> 01:17:44,250 have a military and governmental programme programme for 1318 01:17:44,250 --> 01:17:47,190 Omniture. So you can find out what's happening in real time 1319 01:17:47,190 --> 01:17:51,240 with someone's computer. This is what Adobe is very. We're gonna 1320 01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,360 see I think they got a little ding with the passport the the 1321 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,850 password thing they got that hack you know, that was maybe 1322 01:17:56,850 --> 01:17:59,880 that was industrial espionage to make espionage to make them look 1323 01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:00,240 bad 1324 01:18:00,270 --> 01:18:03,030 with this pending I'm sure there's competition for that 1325 01:18:03,030 --> 01:18:03,510 job. 1326 01:18:03,540 --> 01:18:08,070 Nothing is off the table at this point. And with with with tapper 1327 01:18:08,070 --> 01:18:12,900 on CNN, what he's saying and with this completely unjust 1328 01:18:12,900 --> 01:18:21,090 journalistic, all in scripted 60 minutes piece. There's nothing 1329 01:18:21,090 --> 01:18:24,480 left to believe, except us, of course, because we have nothing 1330 01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:25,380 left to lose. 1331 01:18:27,210 --> 01:18:31,950 Well, we don't, we don't have the conflict of interest. As we 1332 01:18:31,950 --> 01:18:36,780 pointed out in the newsletter. We write we lie on the listeners 1333 01:18:36,780 --> 01:18:40,380 of this show. To do the kind of research we do and come to the 1334 01:18:40,380 --> 01:18:43,980 conclusions we come to sometimes we're not right, some rarely, 1335 01:18:44,490 --> 01:18:48,570 but it happens. And but we were not it but if nothing else, 1336 01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:53,130 we're not influenced me we were influenced by the media itself. 1337 01:18:53,310 --> 01:18:56,670 But we try to catch most of the bull crap. And I think we reveal 1338 01:18:56,670 --> 01:19:00,150 that we've caught it 90% of the time. And then suppose something 1339 01:19:00,150 --> 01:19:04,200 sneaks through rarely, but you can't rely on anything else. I 1340 01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,350 mean, this shows and I don't even know any other shows like 1341 01:19:07,350 --> 01:19:11,400 ours that that are so complete To do this we really need the 1342 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,040 kind of support that we're not getting enough of from the 1343 01:19:14,070 --> 01:19:16,380 number of people that we that listen to the show and I'm also 1344 01:19:16,380 --> 01:19:20,010 disappointed in people that that bail from the show after a while 1345 01:19:20,010 --> 01:19:24,210 because they find what we do is depressing. When that's not the 1346 01:19:24,210 --> 01:19:24,900 point. No 1347 01:19:24,900 --> 01:19:27,660 that is in fact it's quite the opposite. You're supposed to 1348 01:19:27,660 --> 01:19:29,940 feel enlightened that you know what's going on. 1349 01:19:31,740 --> 01:19:34,800 You know, I mean, I guess it's the blue pill Red Pill the 1350 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:39,570 normal or choice in which I hate that but I don't like that 1351 01:19:39,570 --> 01:19:42,270 either. I don't think right? It's like Okay, forget it. I'm 1352 01:19:42,270 --> 01:19:44,970 not gonna listen to these guys anymore because I kind of liked 1353 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:49,620 what I'm told by the by these liars. Yeah, that's serious. And 1354 01:19:49,770 --> 01:19:55,410 they make a choice to do that. Yeah. Well, good luck to them. 1355 01:19:55,710 --> 01:19:56,250 Well, 1356 01:19:56,820 --> 01:20:00,960 with that said, as always, thank you for your time. porridge in 1357 01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:02,670 the morning to you John C. Dvorak. 1358 01:20:02,790 --> 01:20:04,950 Well, in the morning, do you Adam curry and also in the 1359 01:20:04,950 --> 01:20:07,860 morning all the ships out there that are at sea boots on the 1360 01:20:07,860 --> 01:20:10,410 ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the Dames and 1361 01:20:10,410 --> 01:20:11,670 all the nights out there. And of 1362 01:20:11,670 --> 01:20:13,890 course our human resources in our chat room. No agenda 1363 01:20:13,890 --> 01:20:17,460 stream.com no agenda chat.net Our artists, we had a great 1364 01:20:17,460 --> 01:20:20,460 piece of art, a lot of competing pieces of art, actually for 1365 01:20:20,460 --> 01:20:26,610 five, seven for festival we broski which I think is is a 1366 01:20:26,610 --> 01:20:27,330 pseudonym. 1367 01:20:27,690 --> 01:20:30,180 Yeah. Because if you looked at the if you click if you don't 1368 01:20:30,180 --> 01:20:32,400 look, click on the link, but if you just look at the thing, it's 1369 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:36,810 got his name on. Oh, really? In the piece? Oh, really? Yes. And 1370 01:20:36,810 --> 01:20:38,460 you know who it is? And I know who it is. I don't know if he 1371 01:20:38,460 --> 01:20:40,260 wants to know that. Does everyone know but maybe 1372 01:20:40,260 --> 01:20:46,500 not? Well, look, we're crediting as it's written in no agenda, 1373 01:20:46,500 --> 01:20:49,800 art generator.com. And, as always, we look forward to 1374 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:54,780 seeing what the sharp wit of our artists come up with. We're now 1375 01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:58,050 I think it's not working in iOS seven. I've been very careful to 1376 01:20:58,050 --> 01:21:02,430 make sure we get the get the RT a and it's like an extra iTunes 1377 01:21:02,460 --> 01:21:07,380 tag. Another non standard thing to throw in there. Got to decode 1378 01:21:07,380 --> 01:21:10,560 that by hand to make sure it flows in. Oh, well. 1379 01:21:13,350 --> 01:21:16,920 We have us. We have one executive producer and four 1380 01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,550 associates. And we want to thank them beginning with Dennis 1381 01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:26,730 Nutting in Hilo. He's in Hilo, Hawaii when life which is a cute 1382 01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,070 cute little town. I don't know when I was in Hilo, I was only 1383 01:21:29,070 --> 01:21:34,890 there once ever. And I was there when there was a when the old 1384 01:21:34,890 --> 01:21:38,280 airport was still in business. And the old Hilo airport was the 1385 01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,550 quaintest thing you've ever seen. I mean they had everything 1386 01:21:41,550 --> 01:21:44,970 was outside. You know the it was just really crying because 1387 01:21:46,020 --> 01:21:50,340 anyway, Hilo, Hawaii, and he has a note he sent in Hello Adam and 1388 01:21:50,340 --> 01:21:53,640 John enclosed a little Christmas wish for you and yours. You 1389 01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:57,810 certainly have helped me make my year a great one. I still do not 1390 01:21:57,810 --> 01:22:01,170 deserve a D douching. As I'm way behind in the value for devalue 1391 01:22:01,170 --> 01:22:06,180 deal we have made you're finally receiving your do as I just made 1392 01:22:06,180 --> 01:22:08,850 the very last payment to the crappy divorce lawyer. 1393 01:22:09,060 --> 01:22:09,990 Oh gosh. 1394 01:22:10,260 --> 01:22:14,100 And you certainly deserve more than he does give us 333 33 more 1395 01:22:14,100 --> 01:22:17,340 will follow. Thank you for your courage and thank you for 1396 01:22:17,340 --> 01:22:20,940 enlightening us slaves and thanks for yours and Merry 1397 01:22:20,940 --> 01:22:21,840 Christmas. Thank 1398 01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:25,410 you very much Dennis. And of course that is a real executive 1399 01:22:25,410 --> 01:22:28,080 producer credit you can use it anywhere the credits are 1400 01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,800 accepted and valid. Hollywood would be one place your IMDB but 1401 01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:35,160 also your LinkedIn is a great place to put your credit as 1402 01:22:35,190 --> 01:22:38,640 executive producer of the no agenda Show episode 575 1403 01:22:40,650 --> 01:22:44,010 Brian Kaufman from Phoenix Arizona writes in he gave us 1404 01:22:44,010 --> 01:22:49,170 222 22 Sorry if it's been so long I've been in law school the 1405 01:22:49,170 --> 01:22:51,960 last three years although I've managed to finish my knighthood 1406 01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,060 and is this the finish of his knighthood? 1407 01:22:54,090 --> 01:22:56,850 I don't know. No. I think he's already a knight isn't he? 1408 01:22:57,420 --> 01:23:00,270 I'm not sure it yeah, yes. It says Sir Brian. So 1409 01:23:00,270 --> 01:23:01,470 you say he's already a knight. 1410 01:23:01,830 --> 01:23:02,610 Okay, it's already thought 1411 01:23:04,020 --> 01:23:07,620 and maintain a 1212 subscription. I graduated in May 1412 01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:12,480 became a member of the Arizona bar in October. He by the way, 1413 01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:16,320 he wrote this by hand, and just started working and got my first 1414 01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:21,390 paycheck and he looks like a psychopath. Lawyer. No, He's 1415 01:23:21,630 --> 01:23:25,830 young. He's under 30 or under all whatever age it is next that 1416 01:23:25,860 --> 01:23:29,820 you can't write. Yeah, but he's a lawyer. And he's a lawyer, but 1417 01:23:29,820 --> 01:23:34,380 doctors gonna be worse. He got my first paycheck as a lawyer 1418 01:23:34,380 --> 01:23:37,620 yesterday. Congratulations, my 222 22 donations just to make it 1419 01:23:37,620 --> 01:23:42,330 rain. The nice clubs these days are giving or giving out to 1420 01:23:42,330 --> 01:23:47,190 dollar bills instead of ones. That's interesting. Oh, so not a 1421 01:23:47,190 --> 01:23:51,510 double. No particular call out I will be happy with everyone 1422 01:23:51,510 --> 01:24:00,660 else's sloppy seconds. Adam can have any dudes. Thanks. Thanks 1423 01:24:00,660 --> 01:24:01,320 for the show. 1424 01:24:03,060 --> 01:24:06,000 I can I can pick up the sloppy second dudes. Is that what I'm 1425 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:06,270 hearing? 1426 01:24:07,740 --> 01:24:09,810 Keep it clean family, especially executive 1427 01:24:09,810 --> 01:24:12,420 producer Brian, thank you. This is not a family show. 1428 01:24:12,780 --> 01:24:14,370 Greg Christopher grim 1429 01:24:14,460 --> 01:24:17,190 wells a lot of families say your village has been a while since 1430 01:24:17,190 --> 01:24:18,060 I've been down there. 1431 01:24:18,450 --> 01:24:23,580 Yeah. $2 $200.01 Hello, Bob Cratchit and Tiny Tim, thank you 1432 01:24:23,580 --> 01:24:25,950 for your courage. I'm a recent college graduate with a degree 1433 01:24:25,950 --> 01:24:29,640 in theatre. But I had to get a real job to start paying the 1434 01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:31,950 bills. The good news is I've been able to save enough money 1435 01:24:31,950 --> 01:24:34,530 to become an Associate Executive Producer the best podcast in the 1436 01:24:34,530 --> 01:24:37,920 universe. Please give me some job karma and some getting laid 1437 01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,250 karma. If anyone is looking for an actor in the greater New York 1438 01:24:41,250 --> 01:24:46,950 area, I think that would be Visit my website about me about 1439 01:24:49,530 --> 01:24:56,070 me slash Chris CHR is grim GRI Mmm. And take a look at my 1440 01:24:56,070 --> 01:24:59,160 headshot and resume. You know you have to do a little more 1441 01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:03,390 than that. Good it's called cattle cars calls thanks for the 1442 01:25:03,390 --> 01:25:06,510 amazing service you guys provide hailed the foot? 1443 01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:12,720 Yeah, it's amazing ah hyphen mazing ah ah mazing here you 1444 01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,270 gotta get laid job karma for you Thank you very much Christopher 1445 01:25:15,270 --> 01:25:20,190 Scott karma we wish you nothing but the best of 1446 01:25:20,190 --> 01:25:23,880 course. Mike Sabres in Danville, Pennsylvania tuner dollars. 1447 01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:27,540 Merry Christmas, Mike. So apparently this is wasn't really 1448 01:25:27,540 --> 01:25:30,960 from him with love from your girls. Oh, that's 1449 01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:32,730 nice. Yeah, somebody's 1450 01:25:32,730 --> 01:25:38,250 got his account. He's got two babes are more. Or she could be 1451 01:25:38,250 --> 01:25:41,490 his daughters. Who knows? We don't know. Charles gene Kohler 1452 01:25:41,490 --> 01:25:44,340 in Mountlake Terrace, Washington. Joyner dazu. 1453 01:25:44,340 --> 01:25:46,890 Finally, associate final Associate Executive producers 1454 01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:51,330 who writes a note on the back of a small receipt for Chinese 1455 01:25:51,330 --> 01:25:55,560 goods apparently. I love your courage to it says he says we 1456 01:25:55,560 --> 01:26:00,270 want to thank Charles Mike, Christopher, Brian and Dennis 1457 01:26:00,270 --> 01:26:04,080 for helping us out on show 575 And we want to remind people to 1458 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,350 go to divorce.org/and a challenge of org.com/na no 1459 01:26:07,350 --> 01:26:09,930 agenda show.com And no agenda nation.com. There's a Donate 1460 01:26:09,930 --> 01:26:12,840 button on both those sites. And help us for the next show on 1461 01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:16,680 Sunday. And we are coming up a little light considering it's 1462 01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:20,400 Christmas. And last year. We did a really good we had a good 1463 01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:24,570 December and this year is pretty. Pretty. Pretty. Nothing. 1464 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,900 Yeah. Well, except for our fine friends here. Yeah. 1465 01:26:29,190 --> 01:26:32,520 That's it. We'll have a relatively short we'll have a 1466 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:37,440 very short segment for thank yous as well. But okay. I don't 1467 01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:40,680 know if this is not like last year. Yeah, no, it's weird, for 1468 01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:45,810 sure. Please consider us as we are working very hard to bring 1469 01:26:45,810 --> 01:26:50,970 you more value than you get from your cable bill, perhaps that 1470 01:26:50,970 --> 01:26:53,730 you get from maybe your newspaper or magazine 1471 01:26:53,730 --> 01:26:54,420 subscription. 1472 01:26:56,700 --> 01:26:58,890 You know, we'll have more insight, that's for sure. Yeah, 1473 01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:00,990 a lot of people say well, we'll say oh, man, what do you think 1474 01:27:00,990 --> 01:27:03,720 about this, I think about that, you want to know, you know what, 1475 01:27:03,930 --> 01:27:06,510 just wait until the show, you don't have to read up to watch 1476 01:27:06,510 --> 01:27:09,660 anything. And we'll give you all the angles and you can probably 1477 01:27:09,660 --> 01:27:11,850 make up your own mind ultimately, but will will 1478 01:27:11,850 --> 01:27:15,330 certainly give you a fun perspective to look at. And 1479 01:27:15,330 --> 01:27:18,090 people do that more and more. You know, why bother with the 1480 01:27:18,090 --> 01:27:21,000 will do all that for you. That's not as our job. It's what we do. 1481 01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:26,430 So you don't have to vote.org/in a hand please. We would 1482 01:27:26,430 --> 01:27:31,500 appreciate you going out there and oops. wrong here. This is 1483 01:27:31,500 --> 01:27:35,010 the one I want. Yes, we want you to go out there and propagate 1484 01:27:35,010 --> 01:27:36,180 our formula. I'm sorry. 1485 01:27:36,389 --> 01:27:41,129 Our formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth 1486 01:27:53,460 --> 01:27:56,250 that's the I'm gonna have a cup. A little bit of coffee here. 1487 01:27:56,250 --> 01:28:00,660 That's the illness creeping in. And rest in peace there. Al 1488 01:28:00,660 --> 01:28:01,710 Goldstein died. 1489 01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:06,420 Oh, screw magazine. Yeah. That was to have a show. My favourite 1490 01:28:06,420 --> 01:28:09,390 thing he ever did. Yeah, that guy was disgusting. By the way. 1491 01:28:09,420 --> 01:28:13,860 He was great. He was the best thing he did. He was on public 1492 01:28:13,860 --> 01:28:16,620 access in New York, Manhattan. Always the funniest. 1493 01:28:16,740 --> 01:28:20,010 I was in New York when a midnight blue was the show when 1494 01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,980 when he had that show. I'd lived in New York at that time. It was 1495 01:28:23,460 --> 01:28:24,330 channel J. 1496 01:28:24,780 --> 01:28:26,790 I thought Alex Bennett did Midnight Blue. 1497 01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,430 No, I'm pretty sure it was. 1498 01:28:29,490 --> 01:28:32,010 Well, whatever the case was. Goldstein was always on public 1499 01:28:32,010 --> 01:28:34,770 access doing one thing or another. And my favourite one 1500 01:28:34,770 --> 01:28:38,490 was he had this show. Where if you were invited to come on, I 1501 01:28:38,490 --> 01:28:42,990 guess and cuss out people. Yeah. And and all he had to get 1502 01:28:42,990 --> 01:28:46,050 complaints. He I saw this show a couple times that all it was was 1503 01:28:46,050 --> 01:28:52,320 gold stain on the screen giving the finger and saying fuck you 1504 01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,470 hammock or schlemm mirror, whatever, whatever. Whoever he 1505 01:28:55,470 --> 01:29:00,000 was angry at. And it fuck you United Airlines. And he was he 1506 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,930 tells some story about how they screwed him out of $1. Or just 1507 01:29:03,930 --> 01:29:07,080 they wouldn't refund his money or something. And then he would 1508 01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:10,020 sit there and scream at them. And I just thought this was 1509 01:29:10,020 --> 01:29:12,060 like, wow, this is what has come to 1510 01:29:12,090 --> 01:29:16,050 Yeah, well, but on the other hand, those were the golden days 1511 01:29:16,050 --> 01:29:19,950 of free speech that the whole idea of cable access. When cable 1512 01:29:19,950 --> 01:29:22,200 first started, no one knew what to do with cable. They didn't 1513 01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:25,620 get it. I mean, you kids here today you think is normal? 1514 01:29:25,620 --> 01:29:28,680 That's television? No, that didn't. Advertisers were like, 1515 01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:33,390 who's gonna watch that crap? You know, no one got it. And part of 1516 01:29:33,390 --> 01:29:36,930 the deal was in order to have a cable company, which is kind of 1517 01:29:36,930 --> 01:29:42,450 a monopoly. In the region, you had to allow public access, and 1518 01:29:42,450 --> 01:29:45,810 anyone could show up with their tape. And you'd have to have 1519 01:29:45,810 --> 01:29:48,930 channels for people to put it on. And these were the and Al 1520 01:29:48,930 --> 01:29:52,860 Goldstein, who was really yeah, he was a disgusting creep, but 1521 01:29:52,860 --> 01:29:56,280 he was a free speech advocate and you need people like him to 1522 01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,460 push those boundaries to show that it's, you're supposed to be 1523 01:29:59,460 --> 01:30:04,770 able to do that and I guarantee you if today you tried to do 1524 01:30:04,770 --> 01:30:10,860 this type of show on anywhere on cable that it would be thrown 1525 01:30:10,860 --> 01:30:14,640 off. Yeah. If you didn't get jailed. Yeah, 1526 01:30:15,090 --> 01:30:18,090 exactly. And so of course, that's why we've migrated to 1527 01:30:18,090 --> 01:30:22,590 podcasting. Which brings up one other thing I wanted to I didn't 1528 01:30:22,590 --> 01:30:28,140 see your name on it. Did you see this? Writer's for free speech 1529 01:30:28,140 --> 01:30:30,810 thing that they sent to the President in mind? Was that 1530 01:30:30,810 --> 01:30:36,600 maybe the it was ACLU or the p n was a pen? I think pen America 1531 01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:42,090 centre. It was like for four or 500 writers all said, you know, 1532 01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:46,860 stop the surveillance, because we're self censoring. You didn't 1533 01:30:46,860 --> 01:30:47,640 see this at all? 1534 01:30:47,910 --> 01:30:49,050 I mean, that's self censoring. 1535 01:30:49,710 --> 01:30:52,710 Sorry. No, you're not. But 1536 01:30:52,980 --> 01:30:55,530 no, I think I've heard about it. I didn't pay 1537 01:30:55,530 --> 01:30:59,010 much. Well, there's, there's a number of articles. And, and I'm 1538 01:30:59,010 --> 01:31:00,960 just bringing this up for this very reason why it's interesting 1539 01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:05,970 that we that we have taken to the podcasting in our artistic 1540 01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:12,780 and our expression. Because there's many articles saying 1541 01:31:12,780 --> 01:31:16,530 how, you know, writers are not talking about things as much on 1542 01:31:16,530 --> 01:31:18,990 the phone, you know, they're because writers are pussies, 1543 01:31:18,990 --> 01:31:22,770 apparently. And journalists are probably the bigger postseason. 1544 01:31:22,770 --> 01:31:25,740 And of course, they're right to be worried because you are being 1545 01:31:25,740 --> 01:31:29,250 listened to, but also what people write, they're holding 1546 01:31:29,250 --> 01:31:31,860 back their self censoring. And I thought to myself, this is kind 1547 01:31:31,860 --> 01:31:36,870 of beautiful, because the podcast. Yeah, I think you can 1548 01:31:36,900 --> 01:31:39,570 some transcription may be possible. But in general, I 1549 01:31:39,570 --> 01:31:44,880 think it's not the NSA, no one has time to listen to what we're 1550 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:48,450 saying the type of information and news that we are actually 1551 01:31:48,450 --> 01:31:52,140 giving. And if they did, they'd be sucked in within a minute 1552 01:31:52,140 --> 01:31:56,640 they'd be donating to we are kind of the perfect avenue 1553 01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:00,240 because it's not something that gets sucked up in, in machine 1554 01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:05,340 language that can read words. And it's, you know, it's too 1555 01:32:05,340 --> 01:32:07,620 much work to go through everything. But if someone does 1556 01:32:07,620 --> 01:32:09,480 take the time, I think they'll probably like it. 1557 01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:13,440 Yeah, I think so. So I 1558 01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:15,810 think we're, this is a very important service. 1559 01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:21,600 Yeah, that's what we say. So we keep trying to convince 1560 01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:22,170 ourselves 1561 01:32:22,410 --> 01:32:26,700 just pointing it out. Just just need to convince myself nobody's 1562 01:32:26,700 --> 01:32:29,640 got to do it. I mean, it's a once in a while, essentially, 1563 01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:33,090 the what I saw on the L Goldstein show, and I think it's 1564 01:32:33,090 --> 01:32:35,730 what it was called, not I think about it. And Robin, what's her 1565 01:32:35,730 --> 01:32:40,620 name? Robin, Robin bird, Robin bird, she was nude. Yeah. And 1566 01:32:40,620 --> 01:32:42,510 just gave interviews, she was naked, and we'd get 1567 01:32:42,870 --> 01:32:44,460 the bang for your buck song at the end. 1568 01:32:46,260 --> 01:32:49,260 And then there was the you know, the extra E is for extra P girl. 1569 01:32:49,260 --> 01:32:52,200 Yeah. And all the rest of it that was on there was a goal. It 1570 01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,840 was just a funny moment in history that disappeared 1571 01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:58,050 completely. It was beautiful. And now as we get this is the 1572 01:32:58,050 --> 01:33:02,430 start clamping down and smashing dissent and all the rest of it. 1573 01:33:02,610 --> 01:33:05,580 And I want to tell people out there who think about donating 1574 01:33:05,580 --> 01:33:07,950 says screw those guys. We did let them day right and get it 1575 01:33:07,950 --> 01:33:10,770 for free. Why should I give them a nickel, I wanted to say, you 1576 01:33:10,770 --> 01:33:13,680 know, you probably listen to something that won't ever be 1577 01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:17,310 seen, again, anything like it? Probably five or 10 years. And 1578 01:33:17,310 --> 01:33:21,030 I'd be like, go I remember those guys used to tell all these 1579 01:33:21,030 --> 01:33:23,280 things. And they used to go through documents, and now they 1580 01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:24,780 won't even let us see the documents. 1581 01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,960 Remember how I never donated to those guys, and now they're 1582 01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:28,530 dead? 1583 01:33:29,370 --> 01:33:31,680 I never donate because, you know, I didn't think it was 1584 01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:35,430 worth Why should I don't and now they're dead. Now we got people 1585 01:33:35,430 --> 01:33:38,910 that donate over and over again, which is you know, the ideal. 1586 01:33:38,940 --> 01:33:42,000 Yeah, but it's but there's so many people out there that just 1587 01:33:42,030 --> 01:33:46,380 are too. You know, it reminds me talking about cheap. I mean, 1588 01:33:46,380 --> 01:33:48,720 it's like they've the story going around, we'll get to next, 1589 01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:53,880 which is the Indian diplomat story. Well, chat, it's a funny 1590 01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:55,110 story in itself. Before 1591 01:33:55,110 --> 01:34:00,270 we get into that, let's just pause for a second with 99% of 1592 01:34:00,270 --> 01:34:05,400 all of the information products you consume, which are changing 1593 01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:09,180 by the way and Internet services, you consume what you 1594 01:34:09,180 --> 01:34:12,450 think are for free, like, you know, like Gmail, and you know, 1595 01:34:12,450 --> 01:34:17,040 and then and then they change all the time and this is you are 1596 01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:20,130 being upgraded for their actual customers. Okay, that's what's 1597 01:34:20,130 --> 01:34:24,270 going on here. You the products are being upgraded for their 1598 01:34:24,270 --> 01:34:27,120 customers, which is the advertisers. No one has given 1599 01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:30,780 you the actual information. We're giving you real 1600 01:34:30,780 --> 01:34:35,220 information, and we're giving you community we're giving you a 1601 01:34:35,220 --> 01:34:39,300 whole bunch of things and the opportunity to support it. All 1602 01:34:39,300 --> 01:34:40,980 right, now you're gonna talk about some cheapass Indian 1603 01:34:40,980 --> 01:34:42,840 because that's usually what comes after the word Indian. 1604 01:34:43,650 --> 01:34:47,340 Well, there was a funny story that went on this week, which is 1605 01:34:47,340 --> 01:34:51,600 the diplomat of in we're I guess we're gonna have the New York 1606 01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,610 counsellor someday, which I always thought diplomatic 1607 01:34:53,610 --> 01:34:57,270 immunity meant what what it says, which is immunity. 1608 01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:00,450 But that's for parking tickets. Isn't it 1609 01:35:00,810 --> 01:35:04,020 I thought it was a murder to me based on what I've seen in 1610 01:35:04,020 --> 01:35:07,050 really well I mean it just I'm going by what I see on Tumblr 1611 01:35:07,050 --> 01:35:12,030 try that out so there's the story is becoming quite funny 1612 01:35:12,030 --> 01:35:15,630 because this woman apparently was and it's all based on the 1613 01:35:15,660 --> 01:35:20,220 cheap Indian meme she claimed on her visa form I do have a clip 1614 01:35:20,220 --> 01:35:22,530 you might as well play it new and get it go through it that 1615 01:35:22,530 --> 01:35:24,120 was his incident one 1616 01:35:24,690 --> 01:35:26,430 yeah Indian Well, yeah, right one 1617 01:35:26,460 --> 01:35:29,370 can do is government says it's shocked and appalled at the 1618 01:35:29,370 --> 01:35:32,220 manner in which its deputy consul general in New York has 1619 01:35:32,220 --> 01:35:36,570 been quote, humiliated. Devyani cover, Gotti arrested last week 1620 01:35:36,570 --> 01:35:39,360 charged with making false statements and visa fraud on an 1621 01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:43,680 application for a housekeeper. She pleaded not guilty and was 1622 01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:46,530 released on $250,000 bail. 1623 01:35:47,309 --> 01:35:50,969 A diplomatic tit for tat is underway. On Tuesday, concrete 1624 01:35:50,969 --> 01:35:53,849 security barriers were removed in front of the US Embassy in 1625 01:35:53,849 --> 01:35:57,239 New Delhi. India's responding to what it says was the heavy 1626 01:35:57,239 --> 01:36:00,719 handed treatment of one of its diplomats. Last week India's 1627 01:36:00,719 --> 01:36:03,959 Consul General Divya Nico briody was arrested over charges of 1628 01:36:03,959 --> 01:36:07,409 visa fraud. She was handcuffed strip search and me to share 1629 01:36:07,409 --> 01:36:10,889 jail cell with the prisoner population. India has won the 1630 01:36:10,889 --> 01:36:14,039 United States have consequences until it gets an apology. 1631 01:36:14,610 --> 01:36:22,500 Every country has dignity and cannot be in this manner. More 1632 01:36:22,500 --> 01:36:28,290 steps should be taken against the United States until they 1633 01:36:28,290 --> 01:36:29,850 give an unconditional apology. 1634 01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:33,390 Cobra is accused of lying on her domestic workers visa 1635 01:36:33,390 --> 01:36:37,200 application saying she would pay 975 an hour when in fact she 1636 01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:41,490 paid 331 below minimum wage. While India has not disputed the 1637 01:36:41,490 --> 01:36:44,760 charges it says this is not her diplomats are friendly nations 1638 01:36:44,940 --> 01:36:48,390 or to be treated shaken up by the Indian response the US has 1639 01:36:48,390 --> 01:36:50,670 said this is an isolated incident. 1640 01:36:53,010 --> 01:36:56,550 Well then Jen or whatever her name is hearth 1641 01:36:57,930 --> 01:36:58,770 band camp. 1642 01:36:59,610 --> 01:37:04,080 And she said the band camp girl comes out and she makes she's 1643 01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,960 she doesn't really say anything as usual in soccer your 1644 01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:12,000 heart is it Marie Harford Okay, Marie harp harp harp harm her. 1645 01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:12,630 Yeah. 1646 01:37:13,470 --> 01:37:15,480 Can I go? Isn't she the Bandcamp? girl? She's 1647 01:37:15,480 --> 01:37:16,950 the Bandcamp girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1648 01:37:18,180 --> 01:37:21,930 This limited episode was somebody who was charged with a 1649 01:37:21,930 --> 01:37:25,860 crime is a separate and isolated incident. We know this is a 1650 01:37:25,860 --> 01:37:27,720 sensitive issue though. And that's why we're looking at what 1651 01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:30,090 transpired and talking to the Indians about it. drug approval, 1652 01:37:30,090 --> 01:37:30,690 bilateral 1653 01:37:30,690 --> 01:37:33,360 relations between India and the United States have grown 1654 01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:37,080 stronger in recent years. Many believe India's reactions oh 1655 01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:39,720 wait for the government to flex its muscle and stand up to the 1656 01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,270 US ahead of next year's general election. 1657 01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:46,290 Back to Friday briefings I'm sorry that August is over. Oh, 1658 01:37:46,290 --> 01:37:49,800 and this one time at bandcamp I don't have anything at the top 1659 01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:50,130 today. 1660 01:37:50,310 --> 01:37:53,220 I stuck a flute and I just can't help myself. 1661 01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:56,340 She can't that's it. That is the grossest thing that we 1662 01:37:56,340 --> 01:37:58,980 consistently play as an evergreen but it's also let it 1663 01:37:58,980 --> 01:37:59,850 sounds just like her 1664 01:38:00,390 --> 01:38:05,010 from a number one movie that everyone knows is great. If I 1665 01:38:05,010 --> 01:38:06,240 ever met her I just be like 1666 01:38:07,410 --> 01:38:13,050 yeah, well anyway the Indians and then we have the I don't 1667 01:38:13,050 --> 01:38:15,450 understand why they had the strip searched the woman because 1668 01:38:15,450 --> 01:38:20,130 it just seems funny. It's much funnier. Who is a hilarious we 1669 01:38:20,130 --> 01:38:21,990 all admit to that and the Indians don't have much of a 1670 01:38:21,990 --> 01:38:25,290 sense of humour. From what I can tell. I mean, I've seen their 1671 01:38:25,290 --> 01:38:29,490 movies but now they've like they took all the barriers away and 1672 01:38:29,490 --> 01:38:32,190 they stopped the Indian guard around the US Embassy they just 1673 01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:34,860 fight it mafia attack the embassy 1674 01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:39,720 isn't this kind of just the way it made three bucks an hour now 1675 01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,060 but this is the way it go this is what we do when we want to 1676 01:38:42,060 --> 01:38:45,090 pick a fight with somebody the Russians are doing the same with 1677 01:38:45,090 --> 01:38:49,770 the Netherlands right now. We had that the we arrested one of 1678 01:38:49,770 --> 01:38:52,800 their diplomats they arrested one of ours now they're like 1679 01:38:53,010 --> 01:38:55,680 well, we're not going to take your milk products anymore. Is 1680 01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:59,670 this childish? It's just going back and forth. When it's all 1681 01:38:59,670 --> 01:39:02,820 really about buying some big gun or something. It's always the 1682 01:39:02,820 --> 01:39:08,460 same Indians I don't know. I don't understand. I don't 1683 01:39:08,460 --> 01:39:12,450 understand the Indian are they is India any good to us at all? 1684 01:39:13,050 --> 01:39:14,460 These in you have any use? 1685 01:39:14,849 --> 01:39:18,149 Well, they provide us with most of our semiconductor designers. 1686 01:39:18,179 --> 01:39:20,549 Okay, well see they have a real knack for 1687 01:39:20,670 --> 01:39:23,130 what we're finding we could we could grow those guys here. 1688 01:39:23,790 --> 01:39:25,080 Yeah, to a point 1689 01:39:25,440 --> 01:39:28,650 these guys are really good at that. Yeah, that's about it from 1690 01:39:28,650 --> 01:39:34,200 what I can tell but I could be wrong but I don't know because 1691 01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:37,350 we don't have to admit we know Indians admit to ever listening 1692 01:39:37,350 --> 01:39:40,140 to the show except a few that have you know, become Americans 1693 01:39:40,140 --> 01:39:42,210 and I'm not I don't I don't think they count we never have a 1694 01:39:42,210 --> 01:39:46,770 dash they do a once every two years. One of them donates, but 1695 01:39:46,770 --> 01:39:50,100 they're just really as of the opinion they have this their 1696 01:39:50,100 --> 01:39:53,820 religious their basic religious orientation with reincarnation 1697 01:39:53,820 --> 01:39:56,610 in the rest is that you get what you deserve, when there's no 1698 01:39:56,610 --> 01:39:58,260 reason to donate anything, 1699 01:39:58,290 --> 01:40:00,660 but then they get what they deserve or they get out scoring. 1700 01:40:01,140 --> 01:40:02,760 Well, they do get our scoring which is 1701 01:40:03,090 --> 01:40:09,630 a the, the FBI something really I'm gonna get this from this 1702 01:40:09,630 --> 01:40:13,980 must have been. It was really funny. Of course we had our six 1703 01:40:13,980 --> 01:40:19,860 week cycle and the FBI I think they're pissed off because you 1704 01:40:19,860 --> 01:40:22,680 know this is this is what they do this is the big all you know 1705 01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:25,110 we've entrapped some guy but they never really tell it like 1706 01:40:25,110 --> 01:40:28,800 that. But we've stopped someone from from blowing up the 1707 01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,830 airport. We've thought of this self radicalised, homegrown 1708 01:40:31,830 --> 01:40:35,460 terrorist plot, intended to kill lots of people. And it got 1709 01:40:35,460 --> 01:40:39,510 snowed under because of this unfortunate school shooting. So 1710 01:40:39,510 --> 01:40:42,720 the FBI comes out and they send a douchebag and this guy is a 1711 01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:48,360 douchebag. He's got a really weird, round, funny, sweaty head 1712 01:40:49,650 --> 01:40:51,270 to say the following today, the 1713 01:40:51,270 --> 01:40:56,400 FBI said that this year, its agents prevented 150 attacks 1714 01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:57,750 like the one in Colorado, 1715 01:40:58,650 --> 01:41:03,780 or so. So are you kidding? It gets better, because they're 1716 01:41:03,780 --> 01:41:07,860 actually going to now say that they always try to stop someone 1717 01:41:07,860 --> 01:41:10,650 from violence. Well, the opposite is true because they 1718 01:41:10,650 --> 01:41:14,310 try to honeypot them into doing it. This is the funniest clip, 1719 01:41:14,429 --> 01:41:17,849 the Bureau is working with communities to spot potential 1720 01:41:17,849 --> 01:41:21,899 threats early. And our HOMELAND SECURITY CORRESPONDENT Bob Orr 1721 01:41:21,899 --> 01:41:27,119 got an inside look at how it works. Andre Simmons runs an FBI 1722 01:41:27,119 --> 01:41:30,659 unit charged with stopping mass shootings before they happen 1723 01:41:31,139 --> 01:41:33,899 three times a week Simmons and the behavioural Threat 1724 01:41:33,929 --> 01:41:36,989 Assessment Centre, confront a case dealing with a potential 1725 01:41:36,989 --> 01:41:40,919 shooter identified through tips from churches, police, campus 1726 01:41:40,919 --> 01:41:45,389 security and businesses. And when you study somebody, what is 1727 01:41:45,389 --> 01:41:48,359 it that jumps off the page and use this as a real problem? 1728 01:41:48,389 --> 01:41:51,569 Oh, pay attention pay attention. This is what they're looking for 1729 01:41:51,599 --> 01:41:52,019 reps 1730 01:41:52,050 --> 01:41:55,170 what we look at is there a fascination with previous 1731 01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:55,890 attacks? 1732 01:41:57,900 --> 01:41:59,910 I hope no one looks at my Google searches. 1733 01:42:00,480 --> 01:42:05,190 Is there a overwhelming sense of a downward spiral? 1734 01:42:05,220 --> 01:42:05,970 Oh, yeah. 1735 01:42:07,410 --> 01:42:10,260 Often in mass shootings as in the attacks of the Colorado 1736 01:42:10,260 --> 01:42:13,890 movie theatre and the Washington Navy Yard. Gunmen reveal warning 1737 01:42:13,890 --> 01:42:17,910 signs to coworkers neighbours or classmates. Simmons says when 1738 01:42:17,910 --> 01:42:20,970 the FBI gets an early heads up about threatening behaviour. 1739 01:42:21,300 --> 01:42:24,210 Analysts work to redirect the subject from violence to mental 1740 01:42:24,210 --> 01:42:24,930 health treatment. 1741 01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:29,730 This is okay so stop here. A this is clearly another another 1742 01:42:29,730 --> 01:42:34,020 notch in the war on crazy because you know you're crazy. 1743 01:42:34,650 --> 01:42:39,750 And to this is a lie. The FBI says oh, hey, here's a guy who 1744 01:42:39,750 --> 01:42:42,660 wants to blow some up let's go egg him on 1745 01:42:42,690 --> 01:42:46,710 monitoring or custody. The FBI team researches the subjects 1746 01:42:46,710 --> 01:42:50,700 background and often interviews the person and acquaintances. In 1747 01:42:50,700 --> 01:42:55,170 the past year the behavioural team has tackled 150 cases, not 1748 01:42:55,170 --> 01:42:56,790 one resulted in violence. 1749 01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,600 Do you believe this? John, do you believe what they're doing? 1750 01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:04,050 is great. Just I think you thought this would be clip 1751 01:43:04,050 --> 01:43:04,200 that's 1752 01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:05,310 what I thought Yeah, isn't about 1753 01:43:05,310 --> 01:43:07,410 making the rest or locking people up. This is about 1754 01:43:07,410 --> 01:43:08,400 stopping events. 1755 01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:12,090 While prosecution obviously remains as the FBI one of our 1756 01:43:12,090 --> 01:43:15,420 main priorities. We really think prevention is even better. 1757 01:43:16,230 --> 01:43:18,030 I still the challenge is growing 1758 01:43:19,050 --> 01:43:20,010 through entrapment. 1759 01:43:20,190 --> 01:43:23,580 Fire at a Colorado High School is the latest reminder, these 1760 01:43:23,580 --> 01:43:24,420 active shooters 1761 01:43:24,690 --> 01:43:28,200 or continuing so we're doing everything we can to unite 1762 01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,690 mental healthcare resources with law enforcement and make a 1763 01:43:30,690 --> 01:43:31,500 positive change. 1764 01:43:31,530 --> 01:43:34,380 Yeah, we're on crazy mental health care. Two things to say 1765 01:43:34,380 --> 01:43:37,050 about that one, you're not going to hear much more about the 1766 01:43:37,050 --> 01:43:41,250 Arapahoe high school shooting for two reasons. One, it was a 1767 01:43:41,310 --> 01:43:46,800 an armed security officer who stopped this arm 1768 01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:50,850 before you go on. I was watching one of these shows and they were 1769 01:43:50,850 --> 01:43:53,730 going on at night. The litany was there was you know gun 1770 01:43:53,730 --> 01:43:56,910 violence. They played a two clips they played the head of 1771 01:43:56,910 --> 01:44:00,540 the NRA who recommended so you guys got a problem with this. We 1772 01:44:00,540 --> 01:44:04,170 like our guns put an arm guard guy into school and that'll stop 1773 01:44:04,170 --> 01:44:08,580 it. Yes. And yeah, so they did that. No one's gonna whoops, 1774 01:44:08,580 --> 01:44:11,070 wait a minute. Well, let's back off on this because this is 1775 01:44:11,070 --> 01:44:12,930 actually what the NRA suggested. 1776 01:44:13,260 --> 01:44:16,200 And there's this little ditty is what another student had to say 1777 01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:16,590 about him. 1778 01:44:18,810 --> 01:44:22,290 Because funnily enough, very proud of being a socialist. 1779 01:44:23,670 --> 01:44:24,810 He was very 1780 01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:29,220 outspoken on his political views. Well, bomb to him. It 1781 01:44:29,220 --> 01:44:30,000 just meant 1782 01:44:31,050 --> 01:44:33,270 economic equality. More economic equality. 1783 01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:38,370 Proud to be a socialist. Oops, kid. The shooter. Yeah. Proud to 1784 01:44:38,370 --> 01:44:41,640 be a socialist. Oops, oops. Yeah, no, I think we should 1785 01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:48,300 shoot Sheesh. Don't talk ixnay on the OSHA list, say, okay, 1786 01:44:48,300 --> 01:44:48,780 somebody's gonna 1787 01:44:48,780 --> 01:44:52,140 get chewed out for this. Because they put it into the public 1788 01:44:52,140 --> 01:44:55,020 domain. I mean, obviously, there's 150 of these events kind 1789 01:44:55,020 --> 01:44:57,870 of commonly happening. And they could have put any one of them 1790 01:44:57,870 --> 01:45:00,540 up there. But they did put up the Wichita today. In the 1791 01:45:00,540 --> 01:45:03,090 meanwhile, there's some whoever let this thing slide into the 1792 01:45:03,090 --> 01:45:05,880 public consciousness. We've made a huge mistake. Huge 1793 01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:11,190 mistake. And if you remember we had well, I'll actually I'll 1794 01:45:11,190 --> 01:45:15,090 bring it up after this. This is the latest development in the 1795 01:45:15,090 --> 01:45:17,910 Boston bombing the Boston bombing, of course, where 1796 01:45:17,940 --> 01:45:22,590 apparently there is a videotape of the Sarnath brothers one or 1797 01:45:22,590 --> 01:45:28,290 two, depositing in a backpack with said, pressure cooker 1798 01:45:28,290 --> 01:45:30,660 explosive into the wastebasket. 1799 01:45:30,810 --> 01:45:32,430 Oh, is that right, Adam? Have 1800 01:45:32,430 --> 01:45:35,820 you seen that video? No, we have not seen the video, nor has the 1801 01:45:35,820 --> 01:45:38,340 governor of Massachusetts seen the video, although he's 1802 01:45:38,340 --> 01:45:40,350 reliably informed it exists. 1803 01:45:40,380 --> 01:45:44,460 But But, but But why? Why have we seen this video? Well, 1804 01:45:44,490 --> 01:45:49,020 because it's for your own protection by 911. Security is 1805 01:45:50,220 --> 01:45:55,080 something but of course, now we know the real issue. 1806 01:45:55,110 --> 01:45:57,030 David, it's great to have you here. And according to your 1807 01:45:57,030 --> 01:46:01,050 report, Tamar Lin, who was the older of the two brothers was 1808 01:46:01,050 --> 01:46:05,280 hearing voices could have been seen as schizophrenic. Any 1809 01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:08,370 treatment for that. What did you learn about why no treatment for 1810 01:46:08,370 --> 01:46:10,290 the type of symptoms that he may have been shown? 1811 01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:13,620 No treatment? Why no treatment? Okay. 1812 01:46:14,910 --> 01:46:18,000 The I'm watching Well, let me Democracy Now before you go on, 1813 01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:22,320 I want to play this clip and get fewer psych beds. Oh, God. And 1814 01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:25,140 they go on and on about this. And I will and I have to make a 1815 01:46:25,140 --> 01:46:28,230 comment after this clip. Admissions, the war on crazy 1816 01:46:28,230 --> 01:46:28,650 certainly 1817 01:46:28,650 --> 01:46:34,110 hope that the Newtown massacre causes people to realise that 1818 01:46:34,110 --> 01:46:37,620 for years, we've actually been going in the wrong direction on 1819 01:46:37,620 --> 01:46:41,820 mental health. The states have been cutting billions of dollars 1820 01:46:41,850 --> 01:46:48,000 out of mental health budgets. And so the relatively modest 1821 01:46:48,300 --> 01:46:52,050 increases we've seen in the last year are only beginning to make 1822 01:46:52,050 --> 01:46:58,260 up for that fact. We have 90% fewer inpatient psychiatric beds 1823 01:46:58,260 --> 01:47:00,240 today than we had in the 1950s. 1824 01:47:03,090 --> 01:47:05,430 We have no place to put the crazy people. 1825 01:47:06,300 --> 01:47:09,630 The funny thing about this is unfortunate. There's people old 1826 01:47:09,630 --> 01:47:13,590 enough, such as myself, who remember this, the whole scene 1827 01:47:13,590 --> 01:47:18,750 as it evolved. It was, I guess it was began probably before I 1828 01:47:18,750 --> 01:47:21,750 was born. But there was this movement amongst the Liberals 1829 01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:26,130 only to close down these horrible mental facilities 1830 01:47:26,130 --> 01:47:29,220 because the life there was so miserable and hard on them, they 1831 01:47:29,220 --> 01:47:32,250 should have had community servicing or something else. We 1832 01:47:32,250 --> 01:47:35,010 had to shut down these mental hospitals. And there was a bunch 1833 01:47:35,010 --> 01:47:37,500 of them are in the Bay Area. There's one up in Napa Sonoma, 1834 01:47:37,500 --> 01:47:40,500 one for the insane. There was Ag News down in San Jose, there was 1835 01:47:40,500 --> 01:47:42,960 one here and they were moaning and groaning about this. It was 1836 01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:45,060 all brought to a head by the movie, One Flew Over the 1837 01:47:45,060 --> 01:47:49,470 Cuckoo's Nest and the book. And so when Ronald Reagan got into 1838 01:47:49,470 --> 01:47:52,320 office, he was being hounded by the liberals, you know that 1839 01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:54,840 they're gonna is meant he basically just shut them all 1840 01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:56,910 down and said, You guys, just what do you want? Fine. And so 1841 01:47:56,910 --> 01:48:00,030 he shut them all down. And then it's been sliding ever since. 1842 01:48:00,210 --> 01:48:04,380 But now because we can use this as leverage to get people to 1843 01:48:04,380 --> 01:48:06,750 vote against the Republic conveniently now, I don't know 1844 01:48:06,750 --> 01:48:08,460 how you make that connection, because it was the liberals who 1845 01:48:08,460 --> 01:48:11,610 wanted these places shut down and release the crazies into the 1846 01:48:11,610 --> 01:48:15,450 public. It's actually very, I have to say, this is one of the 1847 01:48:15,450 --> 01:48:19,860 best turnarounds of, of concept versus reality I've ever seen. 1848 01:48:19,890 --> 01:48:23,490 Yeah. In other words, it's like, it's the reality of what's going 1849 01:48:23,490 --> 01:48:25,560 on is like completely misused. 1850 01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:31,500 Yeah. Well, I think it's going one step further. Mental Health, 1851 01:48:31,950 --> 01:48:36,180 and the diagnosis, and treatment of mental health is determined 1852 01:48:36,180 --> 01:48:42,750 by one main system in the United States. And you know what this 1853 01:48:42,750 --> 01:48:46,770 is, this is one of my favourites. It's the DSM, the 1854 01:48:46,830 --> 01:48:51,540 diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders. And 1855 01:48:51,540 --> 01:48:56,190 in the DSM, we have odd which we've discussed when it first 1856 01:48:56,190 --> 01:48:59,700 came out, it's now published, Oppositional Defiant Disorder. 1857 01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:03,090 Even the best behave can be difficult and challenging at 1858 01:49:03,090 --> 01:49:05,970 time. But if your child or teen has a persistent pattern of 1859 01:49:05,970 --> 01:49:10,470 tantrums, arguing, and angry or disruptive behaviour towards you 1860 01:49:10,470 --> 01:49:14,250 and other authority figures, he or she may have oppositional 1861 01:49:14,250 --> 01:49:19,230 defiant disorder as they should as a parent you don't know 1862 01:49:19,230 --> 01:49:22,080 this drug them so well compliant. Let me 1863 01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,810 give you the this is from the Mayo Clinic. I'm not reading 1864 01:49:24,810 --> 01:49:28,350 from some bullcrap thing Mayo clinic.com. As a parent, you 1865 01:49:28,350 --> 01:49:30,960 don't have to go it alone and trying to manage a child with 1866 01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:34,050 Oppositional Defiant Disorder. Doctors, counsellors and child 1867 01:49:34,050 --> 01:49:37,140 development experts can help treatment of OD D involves 1868 01:49:37,140 --> 01:49:41,280 therapy training to help build positive family interactions and 1869 01:49:41,490 --> 01:49:46,440 medications to treat related mental health conditions. This 1870 01:49:46,440 --> 01:49:49,050 is where it's going. And then once you're drugged once you're 1871 01:49:49,050 --> 01:49:51,150 on the drug, then you're in the system then they have your 1872 01:49:51,150 --> 01:49:55,590 information. And then you then you can't do a lot of things 1873 01:49:55,590 --> 01:50:00,360 like drive a car or be around children and other children. Be 1874 01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:05,610 in civil servant gun. Can't buy a gun, your child. So here's 1875 01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:08,970 some of the symptoms just so you know your child and by the way 1876 01:50:08,970 --> 01:50:12,600 it says child now this could also be your neighbour, your 1877 01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:14,880 brother, your sister, your father, your mother, that's just 1878 01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:17,640 a matter of definition, maybe displaying displaying signs of 1879 01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:22,110 odd instead of normal moodiness if the behaviours are persistent 1880 01:50:23,220 --> 01:50:25,980 if the behaviour is lasted at least six months, about six 1881 01:50:25,980 --> 01:50:30,570 years on the show, are clearly disruptive to the family and 1882 01:50:30,570 --> 01:50:34,920 home or school environment. The following behaviours are 1883 01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:37,560 associated with odd John you ready? 1884 01:50:38,100 --> 01:50:42,300 I'm ready, I'm ready negativity what? 1885 01:50:43,770 --> 01:50:52,110 Defiance Okay, disobedience and hostility directed towards 1886 01:50:52,140 --> 01:50:56,790 authority figures. Well, there you have it. And here are some 1887 01:50:56,790 --> 01:51:01,290 of the behaviours are show Yes. These behaviours might cause 1888 01:51:01,290 --> 01:51:03,960 your child to regularly and consistently so this is what 1889 01:51:04,020 --> 01:51:09,180 this is how it may surface have temper tantrums. Be 1890 01:51:09,180 --> 01:51:13,230 argumentative with adults, refuse to comply with adult 1891 01:51:13,230 --> 01:51:22,110 requests or rules, annoy, annoy other people deliberately. blame 1892 01:51:22,110 --> 01:51:25,830 others for mistakes or misbehaviour act touchy and 1893 01:51:25,830 --> 01:51:30,570 easily annoyed, feel angered and resentment be spiteful or 1894 01:51:30,570 --> 01:51:35,130 vindictive, act aggressively towards peers have difficulty 1895 01:51:35,130 --> 01:51:39,030 maintaining friendships have academic problems and feel a 1896 01:51:39,030 --> 01:51:45,180 lack of self esteem. I mean, this is from the manual that 1897 01:51:45,180 --> 01:51:50,730 determines if you have a mental health issue. So go ahead and 1898 01:51:50,730 --> 01:51:53,880 laugh and let it go and don't say anything because they're 1899 01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:55,470 coming for you eventually. 1900 01:51:59,100 --> 01:52:03,150 And for everybody, yeah. You get rid of those personality 1901 01:52:03,480 --> 01:52:06,750 characteristics from the general population. You've got problem 1902 01:52:06,750 --> 01:52:09,330 Nobody's life. No, it's 1903 01:52:09,630 --> 01:52:12,780 pretty much includes most people that think for themselves and 1904 01:52:12,780 --> 01:52:15,870 can do now as you stand up and say that's bull crap. Yep. A 1905 01:52:15,870 --> 01:52:17,640 year that puts you in that category. 1906 01:52:18,180 --> 01:52:20,820 The the ultimate answer is lithotomy. 1907 01:52:22,020 --> 01:52:23,130 Well, there's that, 1908 01:52:24,330 --> 01:52:27,840 too. Did you? Did you see? This clip has been going around? 1909 01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:33,150 Well, Barbara Walters. What she said about Obama? No, this is a 1910 01:52:33,150 --> 01:52:36,090 great clip. Just a little it says what do you call it thing 1911 01:52:36,090 --> 01:52:39,750 they serve in between to clean cleanse your palate? Entre mom 1912 01:52:39,810 --> 01:52:43,500 and Ultramel lunch amount of Barbara Walters about? Of course 1913 01:52:43,500 --> 01:52:47,250 she did her. Oh, hold on a second. What is this people? 1914 01:52:51,420 --> 01:52:55,170 Well, he's gone. Let's that's the old Nokia E 71. That I will 1915 01:52:55,170 --> 01:52:57,390 have laying around. That's the only phone I possess. 1916 01:52:58,020 --> 01:53:00,480 Oh, is that what you're using now? Yeah. Well, it doesn't have 1917 01:53:00,480 --> 01:53:01,230 GPS 1918 01:53:01,500 --> 01:53:07,620 hasn't as pretty much nothing. Got keyboard 121212. I thought I 1919 01:53:07,620 --> 01:53:10,890 heard a weird phone. Yeah, it has a real keyboard. Yeah, so 1920 01:53:10,890 --> 01:53:15,300 she has her most interesting people of 2013. Of course, it 1921 01:53:15,300 --> 01:53:18,450 was a Hillary Clinton Gee, who would have expected that. But 1922 01:53:18,450 --> 01:53:22,230 here's what she said on CNN. I think it was Penn boring. She 1923 01:53:22,230 --> 01:53:24,450 said what she said about Obama was kind of funny. 1924 01:53:24,480 --> 01:53:27,960 Well, you've touched on it to a degree he made so many promises. 1925 01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:31,380 We thought that he was going to be I shouldn't say this at 1926 01:53:31,380 --> 01:53:34,950 Christmas time, but the next Messiah and the whole Obamacare 1927 01:53:34,950 --> 01:53:38,310 or whatever you want to call that a fundamental, affordable. 1928 01:53:39,150 --> 01:53:42,060 She doesn't double one. I gotta play that again. She says 1929 01:53:42,090 --> 01:53:45,060 Obamacare or a formidable whatever you want to call it. 1930 01:53:45,060 --> 01:53:46,350 She can't even say affordable. 1931 01:53:46,500 --> 01:53:47,610 I think she's drinkable. 1932 01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:49,500 I think she's drunk. And then she doesn't even know how many 1933 01:53:49,500 --> 01:53:51,600 years he has left. I think she's gone senile 1934 01:53:51,630 --> 01:53:55,320 pharmacists, we thought that he was going to be, I shouldn't say 1935 01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:58,500 this Christmas time, but the next Messiah and the whole 1936 01:53:58,500 --> 01:54:01,200 Obamacare or whatever you want to call that a formidable, 1937 01:54:01,830 --> 01:54:05,580 affordable health that just hasn't worked for him. And he 1938 01:54:05,580 --> 01:54:09,240 stumbled around on it. And people feel very disappointed 1939 01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:12,570 because they expected more. It's very difficult when the 1940 01:54:12,570 --> 01:54:16,470 expectations for you a very high, you're almost better off 1941 01:54:16,470 --> 01:54:19,230 when they're low. And then they rise and rise as well. Very 1942 01:54:19,230 --> 01:54:21,900 high. And they've dropped but you know, you still have several 1943 01:54:21,900 --> 01:54:25,860 years to go. I wouldn't say at three years, my peers and there 1944 01:54:25,860 --> 01:54:27,450 will be a lot of changes and when 1945 01:54:27,480 --> 01:54:30,960 you're an idiot. What does you have three more years appears. 1946 01:54:31,440 --> 01:54:36,840 Hmm. blind leading the blind brother. I know though that was 1947 01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:37,620 your entre? Mo 1948 01:54:38,490 --> 01:54:43,440 Yeah, that was cute. I probably have something like that. 1949 01:54:45,810 --> 01:54:48,150 All right. I'm just holding back and waiting. Okay, 1950 01:54:48,150 --> 01:54:49,830 well, if you want to play an instrument for me play 1951 01:54:49,830 --> 01:54:52,650 Stonehenge. I have elicited a pet peeve. 1952 01:54:52,710 --> 01:54:56,070 Okay. Oops, oops. Stonehedge tried to get away 1953 01:54:56,070 --> 01:54:59,280 from me. The droids of Salisbury Plain have voiced their 1954 01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:01,890 displeasure. or they're comparing a new display of 1955 01:55:01,890 --> 01:55:06,210 Neolithic Neolithic remains and Stonehenge to a Victorian peep 1956 01:55:06,210 --> 01:55:09,450 show. one of Europe's oldest and most mysterious manmade 1957 01:55:09,450 --> 01:55:13,500 attractions getting a 27 million pounds makeover that includes a 1958 01:55:13,500 --> 01:55:16,860 21st century state of the art Visitor Centre. 1959 01:55:18,630 --> 01:55:19,530 Can you imagine? 1960 01:55:20,130 --> 01:55:25,080 You know, I went to Stonehenge. I'll be real quick. I went to 1961 01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:29,220 Stonehenge as a kid. And there was no gate around you say 1962 01:55:29,250 --> 01:55:33,570 this what I'm gonna bitch about All right, go. So I went 1973. 1963 01:55:33,570 --> 01:55:37,470 So it's exactly 40 years ago, I went to Stonehenge. And I sat on 1964 01:55:37,470 --> 01:55:41,400 the stones. Yeah. And there was nobody there. There was like, I 1965 01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:44,370 was with someone. And there was I was walking around with and 1966 01:55:44,370 --> 01:55:49,890 there was a bunch of cows nearby. And there was nothing 1967 01:55:49,890 --> 01:55:52,170 there was there wasn't anything you had to go visit. Hey, look 1968 01:55:52,170 --> 01:55:54,060 at this cool, you know, and there was I think there was a 1969 01:55:54,060 --> 01:55:57,450 small shop that sold little stone hinges or something and 1970 01:55:57,450 --> 01:56:00,930 they were closed. It was it was like you walk up didn't kick the 1971 01:56:00,930 --> 01:56:03,210 stones or whatever you want. So that gets some hooligans came 1972 01:56:03,210 --> 01:56:05,610 along and painted the damn things. And then so they fenced 1973 01:56:05,610 --> 01:56:08,070 it off, and now they're making it. And the last time I went was 1974 01:56:08,070 --> 01:56:12,360 with the kids. The place was packed. Yeah. There's like 200 1975 01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:13,170 people there. 1976 01:56:13,410 --> 01:56:16,470 Yeah, I went, my dad ruined it. My dad took me in it was 1977 01:56:16,470 --> 01:56:22,140 probably 78. He took me on a trip to to London, which was not 1978 01:56:22,140 --> 01:56:28,230 a good trip for a number of reasons. Anyway, well. So then 1979 01:56:28,230 --> 01:56:32,280 we went to we went to whoops. We went to Stonehenge. And you're 1980 01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:34,920 right, it was, I think there were a couple of Druids walking 1981 01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:38,100 around. Like who was just some weird guys, don't, don't, don't 1982 01:56:38,100 --> 01:56:40,380 worry about and then people are kind of spaced out walking 1983 01:56:40,380 --> 01:56:42,930 around. But you could sit on everything you can lean against 1984 01:56:42,930 --> 01:56:45,270 it. You took the picture, you know, hey, here I am and 1985 01:56:45,270 --> 01:56:50,190 Stonehenge. And and then it got roped off. And now they have a 1986 01:56:50,190 --> 01:56:56,640 $23 million pound Visitor Centre. Yeah. It's like, it's 1987 01:56:56,640 --> 01:57:01,710 like the time when I did the documentary in Thailand. And it 1988 01:57:01,710 --> 01:57:03,750 was supposed to be this rough guide thing. Yeah, there's all 1989 01:57:03,750 --> 01:57:07,470 kinds of weird stuff you do like drink Cobra blood and then go up 1990 01:57:07,470 --> 01:57:11,370 to the Burmese border and the the Golden Triangle and you 1991 01:57:11,370 --> 01:57:16,560 know, chew on leaves and opions now it was all great. And then 1992 01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:19,680 well, let's let's go see the long necks like Oh, okay. And we 1993 01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:22,470 drive for hours and yeah, I was like wow, this is really where 1994 01:57:23,550 --> 01:57:27,990 people only few people have seen the long necks of Thailand and 1995 01:57:27,990 --> 01:57:31,050 then there's a big sign with like a finger pointing long neck 1996 01:57:31,050 --> 01:57:37,740 this way. Like what was really buying into it. And we've made 1997 01:57:37,740 --> 01:57:40,500 the other Oh, this is very few Westerners have been at the 1998 01:57:40,500 --> 01:57:43,800 minute you get there. They're all like give me bought bought 1999 01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:46,170 bought bought that's all they could say bought bought bought 2000 01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:49,980 they want money to take a picture with a long neck. It's 2001 01:57:49,980 --> 01:57:52,740 all it's all the whole thing is one big Disneyland there's not 2002 01:57:52,740 --> 01:57:55,800 much unbelievable. There's not much originality left is there. 2003 01:57:56,910 --> 01:57:59,100 Speaking of bought, bought bought, I'm gonna 2004 01:57:59,100 --> 01:58:02,790 show my mood but Jonah to no agenda. Imagine all the people 2005 01:58:02,790 --> 01:58:04,830 who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun 2006 01:58:12,660 --> 01:58:14,460 then we just do a segment a minute ago. 2007 01:58:15,510 --> 01:58:16,500 Well, you know, we're 2008 01:58:17,820 --> 01:58:20,610 not gonna take very long exam Yale sounds good. We got some 2009 01:58:20,610 --> 01:58:24,900 people to think Yale is Toski and Viana Hello serve John and 2010 01:58:24,900 --> 01:58:27,900 serve Adam as a French Canadian American expat in Europe I'm 2011 01:58:27,900 --> 01:58:30,540 doing nothing but hitting slaves in the mouth. However, it seems 2012 01:58:30,540 --> 01:58:32,760 to be too many people are focusing on problems in America 2013 01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:35,400 and not paying attention to the robber barons in Brussels. Well, 2014 01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:37,890 we try keep it up long lived the value of your value model that's 2015 01:58:37,890 --> 01:58:40,260 interesting. It's $133 from Yale by the way thank 2016 01:58:40,260 --> 01:58:44,910 you yo. Now before we get to the $100 This is why I wanted to 2017 01:58:44,910 --> 01:58:49,860 take our time for this you we have a Make It Rain a three show 2018 01:58:49,860 --> 01:58:53,760 make do which would be for the 111 11 don't yeah, I'm gonna 2019 01:58:53,790 --> 01:58:55,860 make it rain and I want 2020 01:58:55,860 --> 01:59:01,470 to add I'll do that bit but I want to add that we have names 2021 01:59:01,650 --> 01:59:05,370 that I have backed up or Kimberly Amber, Chris the dude 2022 01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:10,050 Leo Angular Merkel and Hillary Clinton there was none today no 2023 01:59:10,290 --> 01:59:12,930 and I if there's any I miss will bring him up the next time but 2024 01:59:12,930 --> 01:59:14,460 as far as I know, this is the list 2025 01:59:20,460 --> 01:59:23,820 of E. coli were pretty ladies to play with all the big spenders 2026 01:59:23,820 --> 01:59:27,300 out there. Emmys anyone with a shirt and shoes pants are 2027 01:59:27,300 --> 01:59:31,290 optional. Uh, no touching. Round of applause though. Welcome to 2028 01:59:31,290 --> 01:59:33,720 the stage. Kimberly this little lady just got back from a tour 2029 01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:37,710 of duty and she's looking for I EDS that means no IOUs give it 2030 01:59:37,710 --> 01:59:42,000 up for Kimberly. They took the chance to get it for Amber 2031 01:59:42,180 --> 01:59:45,180 bombshells look for Santa Claus so she could show him her 2032 01:59:45,180 --> 01:59:49,920 cookies and Mel Amber's latest night so agenda lounge. Give 2033 01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:53,190 some hand clapping love for Chris the dude and Leo on the 2034 01:59:53,190 --> 01:59:57,690 main stage was a man on man action. Guys, close your eyes 2035 01:59:57,720 --> 02:00:02,340 Presidio. Oh to stage one five champion rooms where Hillary and 2036 02:00:02,340 --> 02:00:06,810 Angola will pop your corks dances to half price lap dances 2037 02:00:06,810 --> 02:00:09,210 are half price with a bottle of bubbly and don't forget to tip 2038 02:00:09,210 --> 02:00:12,660 your waitress bring him on Hillary and angle as stage one 2039 02:00:12,660 --> 02:00:14,430 by get over there 2040 02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:25,830 great script. Good script. Very well done. 2041 02:00:27,090 --> 02:00:28,740 Well, you know what's going to happen that was so good that 2042 02:00:28,740 --> 02:00:29,640 people will want more of 2043 02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:34,320 it. Well, I don't see any evidence of that. Oh, wow, 2044 02:00:34,350 --> 02:00:36,180 your your limiter. really hit it though. 2045 02:00:36,870 --> 02:00:40,380 I would hope okay, it's all right. Think back to normal. 2046 02:00:40,410 --> 02:00:43,950 Yeah, it comes back slowly for me to click this button. Wait, 2047 02:00:43,950 --> 02:00:46,080 don't don't unclick it now. It's fine. Don't worry about it. It's 2048 02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:50,040 fine. With that and click button. Chris Potter, Elmira, 2049 02:00:50,100 --> 02:00:54,660 Ontario $100. And no comment. Eric Allen in Woodland Hills. 2050 02:00:54,660 --> 02:00:59,250 saqa sevens. Thanks. Please thank the EAA in Woodland Hills 2051 02:00:59,250 --> 02:01:01,290 and it's his birthday. We got a birthday lined up there. 2052 02:01:01,290 --> 02:01:06,900 Christine Zachman. Lost wages, Nevada Sokka. sevens. Eric 2053 02:01:06,900 --> 02:01:10,050 Schmidt? Not the Eric Schmidt maybe. But this one's in 2054 02:01:10,050 --> 02:01:15,000 Frankfurt, Germany Deutschland 7777. It's been wanting to 2055 02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:17,580 contribute for a while. Thanks for getting on board. Robert 2056 02:01:17,580 --> 02:01:26,010 Mendez Lawrence 69. Four we have Lawrence, Roberto Mendez. Steven 2057 02:01:26,010 --> 02:01:27,060 Pels. mockers 2058 02:01:27,090 --> 02:01:33,300 Hey, hold on a second. That's I didn't realise that didn't 2059 02:01:33,300 --> 02:01:34,560 realise he was down there. 2060 02:01:38,610 --> 02:01:45,120 Please be outstanding. The only guy with 2061 02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:48,630 his own jingle. The only guy with his own jingle. Catch up 2062 02:01:48,630 --> 02:01:53,760 people. Christopher grey Grand Blanc, Michigan and finally on 2063 02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:56,880 the 6969 Anonymous, another Michigan Ian. 2064 02:01:57,210 --> 02:01:59,580 All right. That's not enough for a jingle. This thing is played 2065 02:01:59,580 --> 02:02:01,530 out I think from the EU 2066 02:02:01,530 --> 02:02:06,120 6772 Anonymous sir Scott in Herndon, Virginia. 66 66x. Six 2067 02:02:06,120 --> 02:02:10,110 is Steven Nelson in wheat Ridge, Colorado double nickels on the 2068 02:02:10,110 --> 02:02:18,210 dime Lucas zoo, Xeros Ziwa 2394. 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We need more Aussies. 2073 02:02:39,300 --> 02:02:43,710 Kyle Bauer in Wooster, Ohio our regular and finally Phillip 2074 02:02:43,710 --> 02:02:50,400 Neeson and other regular from West pool powe's UK that'll be 2075 02:02:50,400 --> 02:02:53,850 our donors list for today show 575 When they get very 2076 02:02:53,850 --> 02:02:57,930 shortlist, shortlist want to thank them and everyone else who 2077 02:02:57,960 --> 02:03:00,150 contributed to the show in any way shape or form. 2078 02:03:00,300 --> 02:03:04,410 It's interesting you kind of stayed in your in the cadence of 2079 02:03:04,410 --> 02:03:09,630 the the stripper announcer guy I did. Yeah. Works for me 2080 02:03:10,170 --> 02:03:13,290 and moves it along. It's got it's a cadence said that a 2081 02:03:13,320 --> 02:03:14,400 workable cadence. 2082 02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:18,060 I'd like the Leo and what was that guy on damn Garrison the 2083 02:03:18,060 --> 02:03:27,570 dude Chris the dude guy on guy action. Boy, all right, well, I 2084 02:03:27,570 --> 02:03:31,950 think we can do better. I don't know but I see a lot of value 2085 02:03:31,950 --> 02:03:34,950 being created here. We've This is the only thing we want you to 2086 02:03:35,220 --> 02:03:37,170 show is 576 2087 02:03:38,460 --> 02:03:41,730 Okay, I guess there's not much there but there's a six a five, 2088 02:03:41,730 --> 02:03:42,510 six and seven. 2089 02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:46,500 There's a lot of interesting palindromes coming up in 2014 2090 02:03:48,660 --> 02:03:53,040 Yeah, there's the alive the great we're going and you got a 2091 02:03:53,040 --> 02:03:57,720 sickness you have an illness that needs parently treatment. I 2092 02:03:57,720 --> 02:03:59,400 don't know what car you I wouldn't go to the doc 2093 02:03:59,430 --> 02:04:01,830 I I'm afraid I think I'll come back we know what they're gonna 2094 02:04:01,830 --> 02:04:05,790 do is like penicillin. And then just horrible. Because the only 2095 02:04:05,790 --> 02:04:08,400 thing that can really prescribe I think is penicillin. What else 2096 02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:12,810 you're gonna do? But okay, all right, I'm here. Thank you all 2097 02:04:12,810 --> 02:04:16,110 very much. Those of you who have supported the programme with 2098 02:04:16,110 --> 02:04:19,560 your donations, those you under $50 mainly to remain anonymous 2099 02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:21,900 or if you're on the 33 programmes, these are people do 2100 02:04:21,900 --> 02:04:25,560 build up to knighthoods and it does really happen. This these 2101 02:04:25,560 --> 02:04:29,070 these knighthoods do come through our 1111 or 1212 We 2102 02:04:29,070 --> 02:04:33,870 still have time today isn't really we have no no a right in 2103 02:04:33,870 --> 02:04:36,030 fact, we only have one birthday but I'll still do the 2104 02:04:36,030 --> 02:04:38,160 jingles@borah.org 2105 02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:40,050 slash and a 2106 02:04:43,830 --> 02:04:45,090 that's how we roll. 2107 02:04:46,890 --> 02:04:49,800 And the only one on the list today is Eric Allen celebrating 2108 02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:52,230 tomorrow. Happy birthday from your friends here the best 2109 02:04:52,230 --> 02:04:59,700 podcast in the universe. Said boom Oh make it rain. Boom done. 2110 02:05:01,350 --> 02:05:07,800 Oh John, I got this great from this great page from popular 2111 02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:13,950 technology dotnet I created a shortcut go to ice age.curry.com 2112 02:05:17,250 --> 02:05:21,780 Ice age.curry.com And then I will play the video that's on 2113 02:05:21,780 --> 02:05:25,590 that page. This is essentially a link from the 70s and it shows 2114 02:05:25,590 --> 02:05:29,820 starts off right there with the Time magazine cover the big 2115 02:05:29,820 --> 02:05:33,570 phrase meagre time time or do you have the page? 2116 02:05:34,110 --> 02:05:34,980 I'm on it now. 2117 02:05:35,010 --> 02:05:37,740 Yeah, you see that? You see the BIG TIME magazine there? 2118 02:05:39,150 --> 02:05:40,320 Scroll down Hold on 2119 02:05:40,349 --> 02:05:43,409 No it's at the top what if the scroll down at the top? 2120 02:05:43,740 --> 02:05:45,690 I don't have it add it's just a movie 2121 02:05:48,420 --> 02:05:49,920 you don't have a whole bunch of links. 2122 02:05:50,220 --> 02:05:53,820 Yeah, yeah, there's a bunch of links at the top is a video with 2123 02:05:53,820 --> 02:05:55,560 a says it in search of the coming Ice Age. 2124 02:05:55,590 --> 02:05:57,840 Oh, this shouldn't be well, maybe it hasn't loaded on your 2125 02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:01,470 system or something above that is the Time magazine cover but 2126 02:06:01,470 --> 02:06:04,620 here is here's the piece of that video. They took that down looks 2127 02:06:04,620 --> 02:06:08,190 like might be well no it loaded for me. This Oh, there it is. 2128 02:06:08,220 --> 02:06:11,520 Okay, cropped up when I refreshed. This is Leonard Nimoy 2129 02:06:11,550 --> 02:06:17,220 better known as Mr. Spock from Star Trek. Doing a voiceover for 2130 02:06:17,220 --> 02:06:21,360 the coming Ice Age is from 1978 and you can just replace 2131 02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:25,890 everything you hear with. Well, let's see Al Gore distinct the 2132 02:06:25,890 --> 02:06:29,760 voice Al Gore and think global warming when they say global 2133 02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:32,700 cooling. This is 1978 Not even that long ago. 2134 02:06:36,990 --> 02:06:41,190 In 1977, the worst winter in a centuries bucked the United 2135 02:06:41,190 --> 02:06:41,700 States 2136 02:06:47,100 --> 02:06:48,030 rip the Midwest 2137 02:06:48,030 --> 02:06:53,490 for weeks on. Blizzards paralysed cities of the 2138 02:06:53,490 --> 02:06:58,020 Northeast. One desperate night in Buffalo, eight people froze 2139 02:06:58,020 --> 02:07:02,280 to death in their own cars. That personnel was on the road at 2140 02:07:02,280 --> 02:07:02,640 night. 2141 02:07:03,150 --> 02:07:06,990 Traffic just absolutely stacked. It was afraid of being stuck in 2142 02:07:06,990 --> 02:07:11,940 the car all night long, with the cold and the wind running out of 2143 02:07:11,940 --> 02:07:17,490 gas. And then what? I think that if we had to go through a real 2144 02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:21,660 bad winter, just like we just went through. I think we'd have 2145 02:07:21,660 --> 02:07:23,550 to think about moving someplace else. 2146 02:07:24,570 --> 02:07:29,430 Move where the brutal buffalo winter might become common all 2147 02:07:29,430 --> 02:07:33,870 over the United States. climate experts believe the next Ice Age 2148 02:07:33,900 --> 02:07:37,920 is on its way. According to recent evidence, it could come 2149 02:07:37,920 --> 02:07:44,130 sooner than anyone had expected. And weather stations in the Far 2150 02:07:44,130 --> 02:07:49,950 North. Temperatures have been dropping for 30 years. Long 2151 02:07:49,980 --> 02:07:55,380 three of summer ice are now blocked year round. According to 2152 02:07:55,380 --> 02:07:59,730 some climatologists within a lifetime, we might be living in 2153 02:07:59,730 --> 02:08:00,840 the next Ice Age. 2154 02:08:03,900 --> 02:08:09,570 Exactly the same propaganda that's going on today. Exactly. 2155 02:08:09,690 --> 02:08:11,940 That would have gotten clip in the day. Right. I 2156 02:08:11,940 --> 02:08:15,690 can't accept it. It is just a clip. 2157 02:08:15,690 --> 02:08:18,180 You've got three clips today that we're all worthy. 2158 02:08:19,320 --> 02:08:20,850 Yeah, but it's it's 2159 02:08:21,509 --> 02:08:25,049 worded that that is this good. Fine on this website. Yeah, this 2160 02:08:25,050 --> 02:08:28,770 page is great. It has just it's got a million links. Yeah, about 2161 02:08:28,770 --> 02:08:32,730 the Ice Age from 1970. All the way through 91 or two links. 2162 02:08:32,730 --> 02:08:36,750 Were just like 100. And look at the look at the publications. LA 2163 02:08:36,750 --> 02:08:41,160 Times is mankind manufacturing a new ice age for itself? Let's 2164 02:08:41,160 --> 02:08:44,580 see St. Petersburg Times pollution called Ice Age threat. 2165 02:08:45,150 --> 02:08:49,560 Dirt will bring new ice age, Ice Age, refugee dies, underground 2166 02:08:49,740 --> 02:08:53,790 pollution might lead to another ice age. Air pollution may cause 2167 02:08:53,790 --> 02:08:57,840 ice age, there's a new ice age coming. Ice Age begins a new 2168 02:08:57,840 --> 02:09:02,220 assault in the north. This is great. Time Magazine science, 2169 02:09:02,280 --> 02:09:06,750 another ice age. Isn't this fantastic? 2170 02:09:07,200 --> 02:09:09,060 This is a great collection. Yeah, it's 2171 02:09:09,060 --> 02:09:11,340 really, really good. And this is this is what you need to hit 2172 02:09:11,340 --> 02:09:15,540 people in the mouth with climate changes called ominous New York 2173 02:09:15,540 --> 02:09:19,650 Times. Let's look at that one. Let's see if that one still 2174 02:09:19,650 --> 02:09:22,500 exists. Do you have to pay for this if you go to select Santa 2175 02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:27,180 gotta pay for it. Climate change is called ominous. scientists 2176 02:09:27,180 --> 02:09:30,570 warned predictions must be made precise to avoid catastrophe. 2177 02:09:31,980 --> 02:09:34,410 changes in the Earth's climate are inevitable and mankind must 2178 02:09:34,410 --> 02:09:36,360 learn to predict these variations to avoid potential 2179 02:09:36,360 --> 02:09:38,940 catastrophe. A group of prominent scientists has 2180 02:09:38,940 --> 02:09:42,180 concluded after two years study well I could do that voice. 2181 02:09:43,350 --> 02:09:47,070 You know she had Kaltenborn or whatever his name was. 2182 02:09:47,190 --> 02:09:49,710 Okay, let me try the Chicago Tribune once you've I can do 2183 02:09:49,710 --> 02:09:53,730 that. Oh, you have to buy all these man. Dice each come with 2184 02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:56,550 the system that controls our climate and you have to buy the 2185 02:09:56,550 --> 02:10:00,630 rest of the article. The end of the world is to be heralded by a 2186 02:10:00,630 --> 02:10:03,750 summer that is no summer the bitter cold persists and the sun 2187 02:10:03,750 --> 02:10:04,110 giving you 2188 02:10:05,549 --> 02:10:09,719 yeah if you if you if you tilt your voice to having kind of 2189 02:10:09,719 --> 02:10:12,929 like some MMA is something you need to like mispronounce things 2190 02:10:12,929 --> 02:10:16,349 a certain way. So it's very sanitised to be stiffer you're 2191 02:10:16,349 --> 02:10:17,879 not stiff and different. Okay, 2192 02:10:18,120 --> 02:10:25,440 let me see. Just gonna bring up a new one right around the 2193 02:10:25,440 --> 02:10:30,720 corner Ice Age predicted. Cambridge, Massachusetts UPI. A 2194 02:10:30,720 --> 02:10:34,830 scientist predicts a little ice age could begin in about 135 2195 02:10:34,830 --> 02:10:38,010 years. Massachusetts Institute of Technology meteorologist 2196 02:10:38,010 --> 02:10:40,530 heard C Willett in an article in the ministry of Technology 2197 02:10:40,530 --> 02:10:43,440 Review predicts temperatures generally will get lower in the 2198 02:10:43,440 --> 02:10:46,680 coming years. He said this could lead to a period when glaciers 2199 02:10:46,680 --> 02:10:50,610 begin building up a little ice age. How's that? 2200 02:10:50,940 --> 02:10:53,580 It's better I like it. You can use it so this is 2201 02:10:53,580 --> 02:10:55,770 great when you when you look at all these articles and maybe you 2202 02:10:55,770 --> 02:10:57,510 should print these out and take them into school. 2203 02:10:58,230 --> 02:11:03,450 Take him into school kids new ah WHAT IS THIS TIME magazine they 2204 02:11:03,450 --> 02:11:04,470 lying to us 2205 02:11:04,500 --> 02:11:09,000 Time magazine 1977 The Big Freeze 2206 02:11:10,770 --> 02:11:13,140 Yeah, and the main one that's been floating around that we've 2207 02:11:13,140 --> 02:11:15,900 had on the show before the Main articles in Newsweek so 2208 02:11:15,900 --> 02:11:19,980 everybody was all in on this. Yeah, Johnny we're all in for 2209 02:11:19,980 --> 02:11:23,430 Look how long it was all in for like eight years no 1010 2210 02:11:23,430 --> 02:11:26,190 years out through from 70 through 79 2211 02:11:26,730 --> 02:11:29,700 Well okay 10 Right. When was today oh there's 2212 02:11:29,700 --> 02:11:31,410 more videos already been seen this the weather 2213 02:11:31,680 --> 02:11:36,570 decade a decade of frightening the public right to November 14 2214 02:11:36,570 --> 02:11:39,270 Seven united as a matter of fact, here's the new ice age 2215 02:11:39,270 --> 02:11:40,500 almost upon us. 2216 02:11:40,530 --> 02:11:43,860 Here's the BBC is 90 ready to freeze of 2217 02:11:43,860 --> 02:11:46,470 Spokane Daily Chronicle 1979 2218 02:11:46,740 --> 02:11:51,150 The BBC is 1974 documentary The weather machine. Let's listen to 2219 02:11:51,150 --> 02:11:51,390 this. 2220 02:11:53,160 --> 02:11:57,300 There's the ever present threat of a Big Freeze will a new ice 2221 02:11:57,300 --> 02:12:00,840 age claim our lands and bury our northern cities. It's bedded 2222 02:12:00,840 --> 02:12:03,810 Manhattan island before when Greg glaciers half a mile thick 2223 02:12:03,810 --> 02:12:05,970 filled the Valley of New York's Hudson River. 2224 02:12:07,350 --> 02:12:10,980 The warm periods are much shorter than we believe 2225 02:12:11,040 --> 02:12:18,390 originally. They are something around 10,000 years long. And 2226 02:12:18,390 --> 02:12:23,610 I'm sorry to say that the one we are living in now has just 2227 02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:28,710 passed it's 10,000 Tears bursting what of course means 2228 02:12:29,310 --> 02:12:32,880 that the ACH is due now anytime 2229 02:12:32,969 --> 02:12:38,309 anytime. Oh and reminder as of January 1 Because of all this 2230 02:12:38,309 --> 02:12:42,839 global warming climate change bullshit. New Light Bulb bans 2231 02:12:42,839 --> 02:12:47,609 kick in your 40 and 60 watt bulbs are going away convert to 2232 02:12:47,609 --> 02:12:54,089 LEDs everybody or worse those Mercury RF emitting pieces of 2233 02:12:54,089 --> 02:12:54,629 crap 2234 02:12:54,660 --> 02:12:58,350 yeah that go they make a bunch of racket give you one I have 2235 02:12:58,350 --> 02:13:01,020 one of those things in the dining room and you turn it on 2236 02:13:01,020 --> 02:13:02,610 it sounds like a siren song Why do 2237 02:13:02,610 --> 02:13:05,100 you even have it in your house? Take it out. 2238 02:13:08,340 --> 02:13:11,070 I like it because I can barely hear but but everyone else in 2239 02:13:11,070 --> 02:13:14,580 the group they it's DoD or whatever it's called. I found 2240 02:13:14,580 --> 02:13:16,830 that I'm annoying. I'm purposely annoying people. 2241 02:13:16,980 --> 02:13:21,600 I found this other outfit called Climate next what is it called 2242 02:13:21,600 --> 02:13:27,960 Climate nexus.org climate you should go to climate nexus.org 2243 02:13:28,500 --> 02:13:36,900 And these are the climate change propagandists under the What is 2244 02:13:36,900 --> 02:13:39,720 this is just interesting. So this is how they do it. What we 2245 02:13:39,720 --> 02:13:44,340 do we strive to tell the climate story in new, innovative 2246 02:13:44,370 --> 02:13:48,300 innovative ways that's how the British innovative ways. A few 2247 02:13:48,300 --> 02:13:52,170 examples of our work Superstorm Sandy the idea this is a pitch 2248 02:13:52,170 --> 02:13:55,140 this website Superstorm Sandy approached the Mid Atlantic 2249 02:13:55,140 --> 02:13:57,630 October 26 2012. Polling indicates that making 2250 02:13:57,630 --> 02:14:00,360 connections to extreme weather helps people to understand the 2251 02:14:00,360 --> 02:14:03,690 significance of climate change and its associated impacts in 2252 02:14:03,690 --> 02:14:06,570 line with this research climate Nexus identified the storm as a 2253 02:14:06,570 --> 02:14:12,420 potential messaging focus Yeah, you shouldn't this is this 2254 02:14:12,420 --> 02:14:14,790 should be us were dumb. 2255 02:14:15,180 --> 02:14:17,640 We could be making a lot more money doing this sort of 2256 02:14:17,640 --> 02:14:20,340 propaganda bull crap and just suckering the public into 2257 02:14:20,340 --> 02:14:23,400 believing anything we want them to believe we are so dumb then 2258 02:14:23,430 --> 02:14:25,410 didn't actually exposing this stuff. 2259 02:14:25,440 --> 02:14:28,650 Climate Nexus distributed background information on the 2260 02:14:28,650 --> 02:14:31,800 hurricane and its relationship to climate change to hundreds of 2261 02:14:31,800 --> 02:14:35,190 environmental reporters, editorial writers, Op Ed page 2262 02:14:35,190 --> 02:14:38,490 editors and meteorologists. During the storm and its 2263 02:14:38,490 --> 02:14:41,370 aftermath, we put journalists in contact with our expert 2264 02:14:41,370 --> 02:14:45,510 partners. shills, Dr. Kerry Emanuel, Dr. Kevin Trenberth, 2265 02:14:45,510 --> 02:14:48,630 Dr. Michael Oppenheimer, Dr. J. Marshall Shepherd, Dr. Anthony 2266 02:14:48,630 --> 02:14:52,290 lizer. With Dr. Jennifer Francis and Jeff masters. Our efforts 2267 02:14:52,290 --> 02:14:54,990 helped secure dozens of interviews for these experts on 2268 02:14:54,990 --> 02:14:57,900 the storm and climate change, which generated hundreds of 2269 02:14:57,900 --> 02:15:01,380 stories in the mainstream media. This is how it works. 2270 02:15:01,799 --> 02:15:06,119 Now this is exactly how it works. Our goal is to find the 2271 02:15:06,119 --> 02:15:08,309 sources that are pulling this stuff 2272 02:15:08,339 --> 02:15:10,949 and to replicate them and get rich. Well, 2273 02:15:11,399 --> 02:15:12,989 yeah, ideally 2274 02:15:13,379 --> 02:15:18,659 wow the PDF they have superstore This is great oh my god these 2275 02:15:18,659 --> 02:15:23,819 guys are good. press coverage includes AP Bloomberg times Los 2276 02:15:23,819 --> 02:15:24,419 Angeles Times. 2277 02:15:24,839 --> 02:15:27,599 You could change that that moniker from press coverage to 2278 02:15:27,599 --> 02:15:31,559 suckers. Yeah, real suckers include the AP Bloomberg, New 2279 02:15:31,559 --> 02:15:34,289 York Times Los Angeles Times Washington Post, The Guardian of 2280 02:15:34,289 --> 02:15:37,169 course, the Boston Globe time the Atlantic Journal 2281 02:15:37,169 --> 02:15:42,209 Constitution politico hardball with Chris Matthews, CNN, NPR, 2282 02:15:42,209 --> 02:15:46,379 the NBC and PBS Newshour that is the that is theirs mainstream 2283 02:15:46,379 --> 02:15:47,429 media in a nutshell 2284 02:15:47,459 --> 02:15:52,049 and now on Reddit science forum. If you are a climate change 2285 02:15:52,049 --> 02:15:56,249 sceptic your comments will be banned from the Reddit 2286 02:15:59,130 --> 02:16:03,060 well, your comments if you're a climate change sceptic are 2287 02:16:03,060 --> 02:16:08,520 banned from Wikipedia Yeah, there you go. All right. Well 2288 02:16:08,520 --> 02:16:13,470 known problem and we've been had we've good catch is a good one 2289 02:16:13,500 --> 02:16:17,910 we've been had. I can't bad so a producer he pointed out to me. I 2290 02:16:17,910 --> 02:16:22,710 can't believe how dumb I am in this case. This this Chinese 2291 02:16:22,710 --> 02:16:27,720 Moon Landing so called Moon Landing, alleged moon landing. 2292 02:16:28,770 --> 02:16:32,610 It's so obvious it's fake their gift they handed it to us on a 2293 02:16:32,610 --> 02:16:39,570 silver platter and I didn't see it. Here is the headline. Jade 2294 02:16:39,570 --> 02:16:47,070 Rabbit rover basks in lunar Bay of Rainbows. Greeley, the Jade 2295 02:16:47,070 --> 02:16:50,400 Rabbit is a well known sex toy that has been around for 2296 02:16:50,400 --> 02:16:55,740 decades. And Bay of Rainbows if that's not a metaphor for for 2297 02:16:55,740 --> 02:17:01,230 vagina, then I don't know what it is. These guys are laughing 2298 02:17:01,230 --> 02:17:01,830 at us 2299 02:17:01,980 --> 02:17:03,930 I'm surprised they didn't use Happy Valley 2300 02:17:05,760 --> 02:17:09,570 it may it may come I don't know it's it's I can't believe it all 2301 02:17:09,570 --> 02:17:15,750 put up. Don't Roth J rabbit basks in lunar Bay of Rainbows. 2302 02:17:15,990 --> 02:17:20,970 Are you kidding me China's I give him props for that though. 2303 02:17:21,450 --> 02:17:24,810 It went by I didn't even I didn't even see it at first now. 2304 02:17:25,170 --> 02:17:26,640 Actually, Paul Pierre Dimon 2305 02:17:28,320 --> 02:17:29,340 turned me on to that 2306 02:17:30,719 --> 02:17:35,759 you remember the talking about China the incidents suppose you 2307 02:17:35,759 --> 02:17:38,759 have one of our destroyers was damn near rammed that piece of 2308 02:17:38,759 --> 02:17:42,539 crap that Ukrainian aircraft carry that the Chinese have 2309 02:17:42,749 --> 02:17:43,859 built out? 2310 02:17:44,070 --> 02:17:48,120 Yeah, this is this is this was a they had to change direction to 2311 02:17:48,120 --> 02:17:49,080 evolve move 2312 02:17:49,080 --> 02:17:51,960 quick. So here's the here's what actually really happened which 2313 02:17:51,960 --> 02:17:55,290 has never been reported here. Of course, but and this I agree 2314 02:17:55,290 --> 02:17:58,860 with this report because this report came from the NH NHK 2315 02:17:58,860 --> 02:18:03,480 Japanese news service. And they're unlikely to be on the 2316 02:18:03,480 --> 02:18:06,840 side of the Chinese in any dispute. No, but here's here's 2317 02:18:06,840 --> 02:18:08,670 the way they tell it what happened. It was 2318 02:18:08,760 --> 02:18:13,200 China has rebutted us criticism concerning a near miss between 2319 02:18:13,200 --> 02:18:17,070 their naval vessels earlier this month in the South China Sea. US 2320 02:18:17,070 --> 02:18:20,220 Pacific Fleet officials said last week that the Aegis 2321 02:18:20,220 --> 02:18:25,320 equipped cruiser USS Cowpens narrowly avoided a collision 2322 02:18:25,320 --> 02:18:29,070 with a Chinese naval vessel. The incident occurred on December 5 2323 02:18:29,070 --> 02:18:32,550 and international waters. US official said the Chinese vessel 2324 02:18:32,550 --> 02:18:36,120 manoeuvre too close to the Aegis cruiser, and it failed to act in 2325 02:18:36,120 --> 02:18:39,720 line with international norms which resulted in the near miss. 2326 02:18:40,080 --> 02:18:42,960 China's defence ministry issued a statement on Wednesday saying 2327 02:18:42,960 --> 02:18:45,870 its vessel handled the encounter in strict accordance with 2328 02:18:45,870 --> 02:18:48,870 protocol. It said the two defence departments were kept 2329 02:18:48,870 --> 02:18:51,630 informed of the situation and carried out effective 2330 02:18:51,630 --> 02:18:54,690 communications. The ministry added that both sides are 2331 02:18:54,690 --> 02:18:57,900 willing to maintain close cooperation and make efforts to 2332 02:18:57,900 --> 02:19:01,230 ensure regional peace and stability. You West media 2333 02:19:01,230 --> 02:19:04,500 reported that China's Liaoning aircraft carrier had been 2334 02:19:04,500 --> 02:19:07,800 conducting training exercises and the Aegis cruiser had been 2335 02:19:07,800 --> 02:19:10,740 gathering intelligence. The report said that although the 2336 02:19:10,740 --> 02:19:14,760 Chinese side ordered the USS calpains to stop, the cruiser 2337 02:19:14,760 --> 02:19:18,210 kept moving because it was in international waters. Then the 2338 02:19:18,210 --> 02:19:20,490 Chinese vessel blocked its course. 2339 02:19:22,200 --> 02:19:23,160 That sounds about right. 2340 02:19:24,629 --> 02:19:27,959 Which is harassing them. Yeah. Spying on their deal. 2341 02:19:28,740 --> 02:19:32,430 Well, we're in that we're in the Chinese see anyway, we know. I'm 2342 02:19:32,430 --> 02:19:36,240 sorry. We're we're saving people in the Philippines with the USS 2343 02:19:36,420 --> 02:19:38,850 George Washington biggest aircraft carrier in the 2344 02:19:38,850 --> 02:19:42,360 universe. Yeah, we're saving people here. And a couple of 2345 02:19:42,360 --> 02:19:43,560 sorties a day who saved 2346 02:19:44,099 --> 02:19:46,379 them and then of course we reported missed report the whole 2347 02:19:46,379 --> 02:19:49,049 thing. Yeah, I mean, I think it'd be fine if we honestly say 2348 02:19:49,049 --> 02:19:53,699 we're out there harassing the janitors this game, we shot bam 2349 02:19:53,699 --> 02:19:56,609 and that crappy old aircraft carrier but no, the way they 2350 02:19:56,609 --> 02:19:58,529 have it. If you listen to some of these reports, all the 2351 02:19:58,529 --> 02:20:00,779 Chinese are building up to Munich. Russians, they're going 2352 02:20:00,779 --> 02:20:03,029 to have a bunch of these aircraft carriers, this aircraft 2353 02:20:03,029 --> 02:20:04,469 carrier is a piece of crap. 2354 02:20:04,530 --> 02:20:07,260 The funny thing is when it went away, you just said that which 2355 02:20:07,260 --> 02:20:10,080 sounded very top Ganesh, which, of course is our culture of our 2356 02:20:10,080 --> 02:20:13,440 movies and everything. The American people, I think we were 2357 02:20:13,440 --> 02:20:17,220 ready for that kind of talk. We're okay with it. You don't 2358 02:20:17,220 --> 02:20:20,760 have to lie. And I mean, seriously, if if the news just 2359 02:20:20,760 --> 02:20:24,510 came on, and then you had Dempsey? Well, Dempsey is not 2360 02:20:24,510 --> 02:20:28,140 the right guy. We need someone with a little more stance to go. 2361 02:20:28,260 --> 02:20:34,020 Yeah, we're harassing them then. chinks. Hi, yeah, yeah. Why? 2362 02:20:34,050 --> 02:20:36,840 Because we're protecting these islands here that's important to 2363 02:20:36,840 --> 02:20:38,700 us and our allies he's dealt, but he 2364 02:20:38,700 --> 02:20:43,380 is Yeah. No reason that you express there. Is it to an 2365 02:20:43,380 --> 02:20:46,200 extreme, including the 2366 02:20:46,500 --> 02:20:49,380 epithet, we gotta call the jab because we're gonna happen 2367 02:20:49,380 --> 02:20:53,700 in this country because of the women that really are behind. 2368 02:20:53,970 --> 02:20:57,360 Oh, you can't say that? Oh, you do? Oh, you said something bad. 2369 02:20:57,450 --> 02:20:59,940 Oh, stop, you're out. You know, take your average. Let's go 2370 02:20:59,940 --> 02:21:03,120 after the advertiser which they're doing on a number of 2371 02:21:03,120 --> 02:21:04,620 shows. Now. Wait, stop. 2372 02:21:04,650 --> 02:21:07,530 I have another example of this cultural Marxism. By the way, 2373 02:21:07,530 --> 02:21:12,210 you miss me saying Jackson nips? I did. Yeah. Well, and here and 2374 02:21:12,210 --> 02:21:15,210 here's another one we can do Jennifer Lawrence. She's an 2375 02:21:15,210 --> 02:21:15,840 actress, 2376 02:21:15,990 --> 02:21:19,260 people who judge other women, especially on the red carpet. 2377 02:21:19,260 --> 02:21:21,720 You're very sensitive to that. Why? 2378 02:21:22,140 --> 02:21:26,400 Because why is humiliating people funny. And I also and I 2379 02:21:26,400 --> 02:21:28,320 get it, and I do it, too. We all do 2380 02:21:28,320 --> 02:21:31,950 it. Well, why is it funny? Because she's a dick. 2381 02:21:32,039 --> 02:21:36,299 I think when it comes to the media, the media needs to take 2382 02:21:36,299 --> 02:21:40,499 responsibility for the effects that it has on our younger 2383 02:21:40,499 --> 02:21:42,899 generation on these girls that are watching these television 2384 02:21:42,899 --> 02:21:46,769 shows, and picking up how to talk and how to be cool and how 2385 02:21:46,769 --> 02:21:49,679 to be. So then all of a sudden, being funny as making fun of the 2386 02:21:49,679 --> 02:21:52,319 girl that's wearing an ugly dress or making fun of the girl 2387 02:21:52,319 --> 02:21:55,799 that's, you know, and the word fat. I just think it should be 2388 02:21:55,799 --> 02:21:58,979 illegal to call somebody fat on TV, and we're regulating 2389 02:21:59,219 --> 02:22:02,849 cigarettes and sex and cuss words. Because of the effect it 2390 02:22:02,849 --> 02:22:05,069 has on our younger generation. Why aren't we regulating things 2391 02:22:05,069 --> 02:22:06,089 like calling people fat? 2392 02:22:06,420 --> 02:22:08,130 How about smelly bitches 2393 02:22:09,540 --> 02:22:13,020 regulating things like calling people fat. That's what that's 2394 02:22:13,020 --> 02:22:16,080 the exact quote. Yeah, that's that's what it is. Why aren't we 2395 02:22:16,080 --> 02:22:20,190 regulating things we regulate? People that by the way, should 2396 02:22:20,190 --> 02:22:22,350 be such as but that's another sort of matter. 2397 02:22:22,530 --> 02:22:25,980 Like, wow. And of course, Barbara walls. 2398 02:22:25,980 --> 02:22:27,390 How do you get like this? 2399 02:22:28,170 --> 02:22:30,450 This is what do you mean? How do you get like this, she's a part 2400 02:22:30,450 --> 02:22:34,170 of the establishment. That's how you get like this. This is this 2401 02:22:34,170 --> 02:22:37,320 is what the establishment talks like, this is how the elites 2402 02:22:37,440 --> 02:22:40,140 went. And Bill Gates and Melinda Gates, they're in on this too. 2403 02:22:40,140 --> 02:22:45,360 They walk around talking this O R word, S word, T word, C word, 2404 02:22:46,470 --> 02:22:52,230 V word. This is how this is, this is what happens. And then 2405 02:22:52,230 --> 02:22:56,610 we lose everything. We lose language, we lose meaning we 2406 02:22:56,610 --> 02:23:00,840 lose identity, we lose freedom of speech, we lose the 2407 02:23:00,870 --> 02:23:04,350 opportunity to talk freely as human beings. 2408 02:23:07,500 --> 02:23:09,600 definitely lose freedom of speech. That's what this is all 2409 02:23:09,600 --> 02:23:10,020 about. 2410 02:23:10,500 --> 02:23:14,400 Yeah. What happened to you can say, I may not agree with what 2411 02:23:14,400 --> 02:23:17,160 you say, but I'll defend your right to say to the death. No, 2412 02:23:17,160 --> 02:23:19,320 everyone's like, I screwed that. I 2413 02:23:19,320 --> 02:23:23,220 shouldn't say that. That's what it that's what it's evolved to. 2414 02:23:24,240 --> 02:23:27,120 You shouldn't say that. It's not nice, and it's hurting someone's 2415 02:23:27,120 --> 02:23:31,680 feelings. Say that. You can't say that. You can't say that. 2416 02:23:33,000 --> 02:23:34,080 Can't say that. 2417 02:23:35,730 --> 02:23:41,400 Okay, how about this, then? This is, this is actually this. I 2418 02:23:41,400 --> 02:23:42,540 thought this would get Clip of the Day. 2419 02:23:42,600 --> 02:23:45,210 We do know, as we look at the larger picture here, Sean, that 2420 02:23:45,210 --> 02:23:48,150 LGBT rights is just one of the points of friction, but twisted 2421 02:23:48,150 --> 02:23:48,390 is 2422 02:23:48,390 --> 02:23:51,930 another F Russia about social games. And you know, 2423 02:23:52,110 --> 02:23:55,950 the Yeah, I got a couple clips to follow. We in our country in 2424 02:23:55,950 --> 02:23:58,260 Russia right now, as we look at the litany of other things right 2425 02:23:58,260 --> 02:24:00,690 now. It's Russia support for Syria, their relationship with 2426 02:24:00,690 --> 02:24:04,320 Iran, current crisis in the Ukraine, also the protection of 2427 02:24:04,320 --> 02:24:07,470 asylum that was granted to NSA leaker leaker Edward Snowden 2428 02:24:07,470 --> 02:24:09,300 there in Russia. So how do you think that the President can 2429 02:24:09,300 --> 02:24:14,130 balance all the delicate foreign policy issues, but still take a 2430 02:24:14,130 --> 02:24:17,730 decisive stand on human rights because so many people consider 2431 02:24:17,730 --> 02:24:20,190 President Obama to be the first gay president? 2432 02:24:22,530 --> 02:24:24,000 I don't think he meant to say that. 2433 02:24:24,450 --> 02:24:26,880 I don't know if that's, I think it may be wrong, because don't 2434 02:24:26,880 --> 02:24:29,820 forget, he was on the cover of business or Newsweek as first as 2435 02:24:29,820 --> 02:24:33,900 the first gay president. Yeah, yeah. And it's come up in other 2436 02:24:33,930 --> 02:24:35,310 venues that he's well 2437 02:24:35,310 --> 02:24:39,810 we know we know them. We know the fact. Fact. 2438 02:24:41,610 --> 02:24:45,180 But I don't know it depends on what what outlet that was. I 2439 02:24:45,180 --> 02:24:48,030 know, there's a lot of stuff going on. In fact, you want to 2440 02:24:48,030 --> 02:24:51,660 see the classic I mean, it's all anti Russian anti Putin stuff. 2441 02:24:52,080 --> 02:24:56,040 And apparently, I guess you know, they there's some sort of, 2442 02:24:57,150 --> 02:25:00,480 we'll play the clip USA sends gaze to the left Biggs 2443 02:25:02,070 --> 02:25:03,180 Hey, where's my memo? 2444 02:25:03,210 --> 02:25:07,200 Brock Obama may be even a slap in the face for the Russian 2445 02:25:07,200 --> 02:25:10,380 delegation and openly gay athletes. tennis legend Billie 2446 02:25:10,380 --> 02:25:14,040 Jean King will be part of the US delegation to the opening 2447 02:25:14,040 --> 02:25:17,910 ceremony in Russia on February the seventh, there will be no US 2448 02:25:17,910 --> 02:25:20,790 president, there will be no US First Lady, no vice president 2449 02:25:20,970 --> 02:25:25,470 and not a single member of the cabinet here in Washington. 2450 02:25:25,710 --> 02:25:30,240 Instead, there will be a gay rights activist. And there is 2451 02:25:30,240 --> 02:25:33,840 this statement from the White House to back things up. The 2452 02:25:33,840 --> 02:25:37,560 Obama administration says that its delegation, quote represents 2453 02:25:37,560 --> 02:25:41,070 the diversity that is the United States we haven't even spoken 2454 02:25:41,070 --> 02:25:45,840 about the closing ceremony yet that we'll also have as part of 2455 02:25:45,840 --> 02:25:49,740 its delegation, an openly gay American athlete that will be 2456 02:25:49,860 --> 02:25:55,170 Caitlyn Kay, how she is a two time Olympic medalist in ice 2457 02:25:55,170 --> 02:25:59,820 hockey, a clear snub and a protest almost on behalf of the 2458 02:25:59,820 --> 02:26:03,120 Obama administration, Russian President Vladimir Putin will 2459 02:26:03,120 --> 02:26:04,020 not be happy. 2460 02:26:05,130 --> 02:26:11,580 Hold on a second. Okay, so besides the fact that Pakistan 2461 02:26:11,880 --> 02:26:16,590 actually it has outlawed gay sex constitutionally, and you know, 2462 02:26:16,590 --> 02:26:18,840 everything, everything's all good for them. In fact, you 2463 02:26:18,840 --> 02:26:21,300 know, they're, they're still letting us drone they're 2464 02:26:21,300 --> 02:26:27,360 terrorists. And there's not a word said about that. We are now 2465 02:26:27,360 --> 02:26:31,470 going to continue this bullcrap mean that Russia has some anti 2466 02:26:31,470 --> 02:26:35,760 gay stance, which is categorically not true. And in 2467 02:26:35,760 --> 02:26:40,290 fact, the Russian laws are much more LGBTQ. LMNOP friendly then 2468 02:26:40,320 --> 02:26:45,060 United States laws in general. But then we're sending Billie 2469 02:26:45,060 --> 02:26:52,050 Jean King as as our gay census someone hearts This is dumb. 2470 02:26:52,260 --> 02:26:55,890 This is who cares Billie Jean. When is the last time she was on 2471 02:26:55,890 --> 02:27:00,030 a tennis court? When's the last time she was on a woman? This is 2472 02:27:00,030 --> 02:27:04,380 dumb. Let me look at this Caitlyn Is she hot? This 2473 02:27:04,380 --> 02:27:04,980 Caitlyn. 2474 02:27:05,190 --> 02:27:07,920 By the way I listened to this and it's like oh, that's that's 2475 02:27:07,950 --> 02:27:11,040 you know they did this one other time. I remember years ago they 2476 02:27:11,040 --> 02:27:13,080 had the they come and go 2477 02:27:13,110 --> 02:27:16,590 I got dizzy from that. outburst. I'm sorry. 2478 02:27:16,860 --> 02:27:20,910 kuvaas Because you're ill. Yeah. It was a good outburst. I 2479 02:27:20,910 --> 02:27:24,900 enjoyed it. So we've done this before in the past, but why 2480 02:27:24,900 --> 02:27:27,300 doesn't you know the people that have to crack down on this is 2481 02:27:27,300 --> 02:27:29,220 not the Russians. They should just who cares? We just get 2482 02:27:29,220 --> 02:27:33,060 whatever money we get. Where's the Olympic Committee? They're 2483 02:27:33,060 --> 02:27:35,490 the ones that these guys run the world they should be coming over 2484 02:27:35,490 --> 02:27:39,420 say hey, you're never gonna get another Olympics in your country 2485 02:27:39,420 --> 02:27:41,790 if you keep this bullshit up. How could 2486 02:27:41,790 --> 02:27:45,600 they even choose this country? Because it's not true. They love 2487 02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:47,760 it. It's all it's all about the money for them. This is 2488 02:27:47,760 --> 02:27:52,170 fantastic. Get this promotion everyone to watch. But boy, 2489 02:27:52,170 --> 02:27:55,080 yeah. Well, that's true. 2490 02:27:55,110 --> 02:27:59,940 But come on. If we're gonna send a lesbian to Russia. Let's send 2491 02:28:00,120 --> 02:28:04,860 Let's send a good one. No Cheese Louise. Why did have to Billie 2492 02:28:04,860 --> 02:28:09,180 Jean King. That's it's like Elton John with a with a bra. I 2493 02:28:09,180 --> 02:28:10,410 mean, come on. 2494 02:28:13,860 --> 02:28:16,650 I don't know where that came from. Please vote for us an 2495 02:28:16,650 --> 02:28:17,490 image I just 2496 02:28:20,370 --> 02:28:21,630 Oh, man. 2497 02:28:22,320 --> 02:28:25,140 They're going after the RT is finally getting out of its 2498 02:28:25,140 --> 02:28:27,480 shell. And they're dead just trying to blast the US every way 2499 02:28:27,480 --> 02:28:31,440 they can. So let's look at this clip, which is the anti American 2500 02:28:31,440 --> 02:28:35,040 Middle East pitch on Russia today, which I just think was 2501 02:28:35,040 --> 02:28:35,730 off the wall. 2502 02:28:35,760 --> 02:28:38,310 What do you make up how the US is responding to this issue 2503 02:28:38,310 --> 02:28:41,880 given the conflicting interests here, for example, in Syria, you 2504 02:28:41,880 --> 02:28:44,610 have the Assad government, which has been friendly to the 2505 02:28:44,610 --> 02:28:47,130 Christian communities. But the US is opposed to the Assad 2506 02:28:47,130 --> 02:28:49,650 government instead favours the rebels which we're now seeing 2507 02:28:49,650 --> 02:28:53,070 factions of the rebels not being friendly to Christians, can the 2508 02:28:53,070 --> 02:28:55,620 US even play a role in mitigating this problem? 2509 02:28:55,680 --> 02:29:03,030 Nobody understands what the US game plan at this, at this time 2510 02:29:03,030 --> 02:29:06,870 in the Middle East, the US, for the first time in a very long 2511 02:29:06,870 --> 02:29:11,640 time, are perceived in the Middle East, even by its 2512 02:29:11,640 --> 02:29:15,720 strongest allies, such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt as an 2513 02:29:15,720 --> 02:29:20,520 unreliable partner. This is quite harsh. I have not heard 2514 02:29:20,640 --> 02:29:27,450 such harsh criticism for the US government, probably since the 2515 02:29:27,450 --> 02:29:31,560 height of the anti American sentiments in Egypt in the 2516 02:29:31,560 --> 02:29:32,820 Middle East in the 60s. 2517 02:29:34,770 --> 02:29:37,380 So they're going to believe in their story after story. All 2518 02:29:37,380 --> 02:29:40,530 they're doing is blasting our foreign policy blasts in the US 2519 02:29:40,530 --> 02:29:44,550 on our tea with various anchors and they're all in on this. It's 2520 02:29:44,550 --> 02:29:46,710 actually quite quite entertaining. I have to say. 2521 02:29:48,810 --> 02:29:54,780 Putin changed something I think he did away with Ria. He closed 2522 02:29:54,780 --> 02:29:59,760 down the the RIA News organisation and as bolstered 2523 02:29:59,760 --> 02:30:02,580 our Tea I think there was ice read about some change. So that 2524 02:30:02,580 --> 02:30:05,910 makes sense if we're seeing an increase in anti American 2525 02:30:05,910 --> 02:30:06,810 sentiment from them 2526 02:30:07,830 --> 02:30:12,810 yeah and pro and a lot of pro Syrian sentiment Yeah. Including 2527 02:30:12,810 --> 02:30:15,480 this there's got a couple of clips on the Syria thing play 2528 02:30:15,480 --> 02:30:20,490 great Assad propaganda. Okay, killed are used as human 2529 02:30:20,490 --> 02:30:21,090 shields. 2530 02:30:21,180 --> 02:30:23,340 The things being done in our drawer unthinkable. They're 2531 02:30:23,340 --> 02:30:25,830 slaughtering children and throwing them out a Windows and 2532 02:30:25,830 --> 02:30:27,210 no one's doing anything about it. 2533 02:30:30,000 --> 02:30:32,970 Yes, yes. Those are the rebels by the way. That's the rebel. 2534 02:30:33,000 --> 02:30:35,310 Yeah, that's, of course it's completely believable. 2535 02:30:35,640 --> 02:30:39,060 Thrown children out of windows and nobody is doing anything 2536 02:30:39,060 --> 02:30:42,270 about it. Play aside part two. This is getting good. Right now. 2537 02:30:42,270 --> 02:30:45,510 Syrian authorities say they have evidence confirming that 2538 02:30:45,510 --> 02:30:49,860 massacres have taken place and address Sadad Latakia and many 2539 02:30:49,860 --> 02:30:53,310 other areas, which remain under the control of the armed 2540 02:30:53,310 --> 02:30:57,540 opposition. The situation in Syria has now deteriorated to 2541 02:30:57,540 --> 02:31:01,170 the point that international norms of combat are no longer 2542 02:31:01,170 --> 02:31:02,070 being observed 2543 02:31:02,130 --> 02:31:04,890 by of course the throwing kids out window these are the rebels 2544 02:31:04,890 --> 02:31:06,840 who are throwing the kids out of the windows. Yeah, 2545 02:31:06,840 --> 02:31:09,780 obviously and he's got his part three we wrap it up hydro he's 2546 02:31:09,780 --> 02:31:13,680 an industrial town with a lot of its residents working both in 2547 02:31:13,680 --> 02:31:17,220 the private sector and for government agencies. Horrifying 2548 02:31:17,220 --> 02:31:21,090 crimes have been committed in this town houses were set on 2549 02:31:21,090 --> 02:31:23,880 fire with people trapped inside the Syrian 2550 02:31:23,880 --> 02:31:27,360 army which is positioned just outside the town continues to 2551 02:31:27,360 --> 02:31:31,050 carry out surgical strikes as part of their effort to liberate 2552 02:31:31,050 --> 02:31:35,160 ADRA which is now the only hope of the families waiting for news 2553 02:31:35,160 --> 02:31:37,890 of their loved ones inside the town. You know, 2554 02:31:37,920 --> 02:31:39,990 Oh, wow. Well, 2555 02:31:40,020 --> 02:31:43,050 before you say that, I just wanted that thing. You just 2556 02:31:43,050 --> 02:31:47,880 heard that thing there is so amateurish surgical strikes. 2557 02:31:47,970 --> 02:31:52,320 Yeah. Russians suck at this. Yeah, well, 2558 02:31:52,830 --> 02:31:57,720 yeah. Yeah, they suck and they need help. surgical strikes. I 2559 02:31:57,720 --> 02:32:00,300 heard it I was thinking that 2560 02:32:02,040 --> 02:32:06,360 you know how my mom would say like, you know, 2561 02:32:07,500 --> 02:32:09,210 if you don't clean up your room we're going to send you to 2562 02:32:09,210 --> 02:32:10,800 Africa where you don't have a room 2563 02:32:12,600 --> 02:32:15,690 so now now parents don't have about sending the food that the 2564 02:32:16,020 --> 02:32:17,580 starving Chinese right so 2565 02:32:17,580 --> 02:32:20,310 now we can just say you know if you don't behave yourself Adam 2566 02:32:20,310 --> 02:32:23,400 Clark curry I'm sending you to to Syria where they throw 2567 02:32:23,400 --> 02:32:24,780 children like you out the window. 2568 02:32:26,160 --> 02:32:29,430 Yeah, it's very out the window. Bam. no apparent reason. 2569 02:32:30,060 --> 02:32:32,760 No, of course not. Well, this is not very good. 2570 02:32:33,750 --> 02:32:37,020 I have a couple of throat callbacks to the earlier part of 2571 02:32:37,020 --> 02:32:41,010 the show. No, okay. One of them but which does not do the 2572 02:32:41,010 --> 02:32:44,010 callback is the sob winds the jet do listen to this little 2573 02:32:44,010 --> 02:32:47,460 piece of propaganda, I believe. I think this was on van cat. So 2574 02:32:47,460 --> 02:32:51,240 it wasn't a Russian propaganda. But I think it's very telling 2575 02:32:51,480 --> 02:32:54,810 and if anyone should be at the table with the laughing Obama 2576 02:32:54,810 --> 02:32:58,020 and Biden that it should have been the CEO of Boeing. 2577 02:32:58,110 --> 02:33:01,560 Now Brazil has managed to put several noses out of joint in 2578 02:33:01,560 --> 02:33:05,040 both France and the United States in choosing who to buy 2579 02:33:05,040 --> 02:33:06,480 new fighter planes from 2580 02:33:06,510 --> 02:33:10,230 Yeah, simple deal that's caused a lot of diplomatic tussle I 2581 02:33:10,230 --> 02:33:14,010 suppose. After a decade of on and off negotiations. It was 2582 02:33:14,040 --> 02:33:19,260 Sweden's Saab, which won the $4.5 billion dollar contract to 2583 02:33:19,260 --> 02:33:22,950 supply fighter jets to Brazil. Now the deal will see Sao Paulo 2584 02:33:22,980 --> 02:33:27,750 were supplied with 36 new jets by 2020 sub one out over 2585 02:33:27,750 --> 02:33:30,900 competition from France's Dessel and also Boeing, an American 2586 02:33:30,900 --> 02:33:33,900 company. Now when Brazilian government source said that that 2587 02:33:33,900 --> 02:33:38,310 was the NSA spying scandal that cost the American firm, its 2588 02:33:38,310 --> 02:33:41,490 chance at winning contracts. That's certainly a surprise 2589 02:33:41,490 --> 02:33:41,940 choice. 2590 02:33:42,600 --> 02:33:43,380 Interesting. 2591 02:33:45,450 --> 02:33:48,810 You know, Snowden wrote an open Well, I'm sorry, Glenn 2592 02:33:48,810 --> 02:33:54,150 Greenwald. Dorf wrote an open letter on behalf of Edward 2593 02:33:54,150 --> 02:33:56,700 Snowden because it's Greenwald's writing, you can tell. 2594 02:33:59,100 --> 02:34:01,530 Actually, there's analytic tools that you could run and you could 2595 02:34:01,530 --> 02:34:02,730 probably find it was him. 2596 02:34:02,790 --> 02:34:04,470 Do we have those tools handy? 2597 02:34:05,010 --> 02:34:06,750 Actually, I have a couple of them but I you know, they're 2598 02:34:06,750 --> 02:34:10,560 buried somewhere in the office. Don't count on you 2599 02:34:10,560 --> 02:34:17,040 could have just said no. Yeah. No, where he is now vying for 2600 02:34:17,070 --> 02:34:21,930 asylum in Brazil, and then everything starts to come into 2601 02:34:21,930 --> 02:34:23,550 vision. Now, you know what I mean? 2602 02:34:24,030 --> 02:34:27,390 Well, actually, the unreported Snowden suggested deal is that 2603 02:34:27,390 --> 02:34:29,490 clip about what exactly what you said, 2604 02:34:29,610 --> 02:34:32,460 Okay. Wow, you come prepared white men. 2605 02:34:33,120 --> 02:34:37,140 And as NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden offers to help Brazil 2606 02:34:37,170 --> 02:34:41,640 dig deeper into NSA activities. He said he could do so in 2607 02:34:41,640 --> 02:34:46,140 exchange for political asylum. The Snowden leaks have provoked 2608 02:34:46,170 --> 02:34:48,960 outrage about us mass surveillance worldwide. 2609 02:34:49,020 --> 02:34:53,520 Yeah, yeah. No, I It's all coming into view now. But what 2610 02:34:53,520 --> 02:34:56,850 was interesting about this letter, hold on a second. And 2611 02:34:56,880 --> 02:35:00,720 the reason I don't I don't need any, any tool Hold on. I have a 2612 02:35:00,720 --> 02:35:07,500 letter here, PIPA open letter to the people of Brazil. Let me 2613 02:35:07,500 --> 02:35:12,450 just open this up in the web browser. There was something 2614 02:35:12,450 --> 02:35:16,950 very annoying in here that caught my eye and as a no agenda 2615 02:35:16,950 --> 02:35:21,660 producer, everyone else would go rather. So it says says an open 2616 02:35:21,660 --> 02:35:24,270 letter to people in Brazil, Edward Snowden six months ago, I 2617 02:35:24,270 --> 02:35:31,770 stepped out from the shadows lady lady lady law. And then we 2618 02:35:31,770 --> 02:35:38,730 have I have expressed my willingness to assist wherever 2619 02:35:38,730 --> 02:35:41,070 appropriate and lawful. But unfortunately, the United States 2620 02:35:41,070 --> 02:35:44,280 government has worked very hard to limit my ability to do so 2621 02:35:44,460 --> 02:35:48,540 going so far as to force down the presidential plane of Evo 2622 02:35:48,540 --> 02:35:51,690 Morales to prevent me from travelling to Latin America. 2623 02:35:53,100 --> 02:35:54,180 That's a lie. 2624 02:35:55,620 --> 02:35:59,760 Well, it's not only a lie, but he wasn't on that plane. No. So 2625 02:35:59,760 --> 02:36:03,330 it's a double kind of a it's a lie in different dimensions. 2626 02:36:03,360 --> 02:36:08,160 The plane was not forced down. We have the air traffic control 2627 02:36:08,160 --> 02:36:12,300 audio, we've played it several times. They, they they had their 2628 02:36:12,330 --> 02:36:15,810 own lie on the flight crew had their own lie that they wanted 2629 02:36:15,810 --> 02:36:17,940 to land because someone was wrong with their gauges. They 2630 02:36:17,940 --> 02:36:23,100 asked to land no one was forced down. No matter what how you put 2631 02:36:23,100 --> 02:36:26,400 it, going so far as to force down the presidential plane. 2632 02:36:26,550 --> 02:36:30,030 That is a lie. And that tells me the Glenn Greenwald don't rap 2633 02:36:30,330 --> 02:36:38,280 wrote it. He writes this stuff. This guy is. Okay. Hey, I need 2634 02:36:38,280 --> 02:36:43,950 to remind you, we're going to talk about the something related 2635 02:36:43,950 --> 02:36:49,530 to that. Come on about our bees. Oh, so Washington Post. 2636 02:36:49,860 --> 02:36:52,500 Oh, yeah. Bezos, the Washington Post where I get to two clips of 2637 02:36:52,500 --> 02:36:56,130 sets it up. We can talk about it. Yeah. The first one would be 2638 02:36:56,940 --> 02:37:02,610 a Washington Post. No, no, no, no, it would be BS. Yeah, why 2639 02:37:02,640 --> 02:37:05,370 the Bezos Washington Post and CIA story that's the one 2640 02:37:05,609 --> 02:37:08,279 on the Washington Post is dealing with conflict of 2641 02:37:08,279 --> 02:37:12,089 interest questions. That newspaper was recently acquired 2642 02:37:12,089 --> 02:37:17,129 by Jeff Bezos, the founder and CEO of Amazon. And as CEO of 2643 02:37:17,129 --> 02:37:21,929 Amazon Bezos recently signed a $600 million contract with the 2644 02:37:21,929 --> 02:37:26,669 CIA to provide cloud computing infrastructure, the 600 million 2645 02:37:26,669 --> 02:37:31,109 that Bezos is getting from the CIA eclipses the 250 million he 2646 02:37:31,109 --> 02:37:34,169 paid to buy the Washington Post newspaper. And there are 2647 02:37:34,169 --> 02:37:36,779 questions over whether or not this deal could affect the 2648 02:37:36,779 --> 02:37:41,579 Washington Post reporting on CIA matters. Here's Bezos responding 2649 02:37:41,579 --> 02:37:42,599 on 60 minutes. 2650 02:37:43,230 --> 02:37:45,870 does that present any conflict for you the fact that you 2651 02:37:45,870 --> 02:37:49,710 provide a cloud that the CIA uses for its data? I don't think 2652 02:37:49,710 --> 02:37:52,230 so. We're building what's called a private cloud for them, 2653 02:37:52,230 --> 02:37:54,420 Charlie, because they don't want to be on the public cloud. 2654 02:37:55,050 --> 02:37:57,570 But here's what former Washington Post reporter John 2655 02:37:57,570 --> 02:38:01,170 Hanrahan told The Huffington Post, quote, one thing is 2656 02:38:01,170 --> 02:38:04,680 certain posts, reporters and editors are aware that Bezos, as 2657 02:38:04,680 --> 02:38:07,980 majority owner of Amazon has a financial stake in maintaining 2658 02:38:07,980 --> 02:38:11,790 good relations with the CIA. And this sends a clear message to 2659 02:38:11,790 --> 02:38:15,150 even the hardest nose journalist that making the CIA look bad 2660 02:38:15,150 --> 02:38:17,220 might not be a good career move, 2661 02:38:17,280 --> 02:38:19,680 right? Is it Bezos, or Bezos? 2662 02:38:19,710 --> 02:38:23,460 Oh, who cares? These knows play the professor on the CIA and 2663 02:38:23,460 --> 02:38:27,450 Bezos and Amazon story. There's the guy that this, by the way is 2664 02:38:27,450 --> 02:38:30,810 all on Russia today, too, you know, again, go after us. 2665 02:38:30,840 --> 02:38:35,010 I mean, I would hate to be a Washington Post reporter on that 2666 02:38:35,010 --> 02:38:38,610 beat, I'd hate to be a Washington requester reporter on 2667 02:38:38,610 --> 02:38:44,220 a few other beats. That basis, you know, is involved in, but 2668 02:38:44,220 --> 02:38:48,030 yeah, it has a chilling effect that everyone there knows that 2669 02:38:48,030 --> 02:38:53,370 the Washington Post that Amazon already played a role, it wasn't 2670 02:38:53,370 --> 02:38:57,240 a very kosher one, and kicking WikiLeaks off of its web 2671 02:38:57,240 --> 02:39:01,290 hosting, which really hurt WikiLeaks, during the height of 2672 02:39:01,290 --> 02:39:07,350 a controversy a while back. And so the relationship of Amazon 2673 02:39:07,350 --> 02:39:13,140 and Bezos to an agency like the CIA is, is very relevant. And 2674 02:39:13,350 --> 02:39:16,500 remember an Amazon spokesman last month, were saying we look 2675 02:39:16,500 --> 02:39:19,770 forward to a successful relationship with the CIA. 2676 02:39:21,210 --> 02:39:22,350 Of course, what I'd say 2677 02:39:23,550 --> 02:39:25,140 that's what I say to that kind of money. 2678 02:39:26,820 --> 02:39:32,940 People talk about that actual point that Amazon etc to the a 2679 02:39:32,940 --> 02:39:35,760 the Amazon Web Services kicked WikiLeaks off, I'd forgotten 2680 02:39:35,760 --> 02:39:39,450 about that. Actually. It's all people only talk about the 2681 02:39:39,450 --> 02:39:41,460 PayPal stuff, but yeah, Amazon kicked them off their 2682 02:39:41,460 --> 02:39:42,600 infrastructure. I remember that. 2683 02:39:43,050 --> 02:39:45,960 Yeah. So epsilon, 2684 02:39:45,990 --> 02:39:49,080 which is what which is why it's so great that we're using bit 2685 02:39:49,080 --> 02:39:53,340 torn sink because you know what, even if someone shut down, if 2686 02:39:53,340 --> 02:39:57,480 they took away my computers and cut off my cable, all I'd have 2687 02:39:57,480 --> 02:40:03,210 to do is give the one number or which I've memorised that one 2688 02:40:03,210 --> 02:40:07,290 key to anyone else who anyone in the world and then they could 2689 02:40:07,290 --> 02:40:10,290 automatically become the seed the the main seed for the no 2690 02:40:10,290 --> 02:40:13,380 agenda show propagation. How cool is that? 2691 02:40:14,610 --> 02:40:17,640 Back to this Washington Post story, does anybody think the 2692 02:40:17,640 --> 02:40:20,400 Washington Post is not long since been compromised? 2693 02:40:20,550 --> 02:40:25,470 And that's it's funny because no one seems to understand anymore 2694 02:40:25,470 --> 02:40:30,360 that because internet it's just done. The Washington with the 2695 02:40:30,360 --> 02:40:32,550 Washington The Washington Post for the day they took the first 2696 02:40:32,550 --> 02:40:36,810 advertisement was compromised Hello? Oh, yes, of course, it's 2697 02:40:36,810 --> 02:40:40,440 compromised and no and no one cares about the Washington Post 2698 02:40:40,560 --> 02:40:43,560 other than the people in Washington. So it's the whole 2699 02:40:43,560 --> 02:40:47,760 thing is all of this, all of this stuff is just that whatever 2700 02:40:47,760 --> 02:40:50,910 you can move, finagle and get something, get some heat and get 2701 02:40:50,910 --> 02:40:53,670 the other suckers to flow along with it and get everyone talking 2702 02:40:53,670 --> 02:40:55,560 about it, then you've got your moment, then you can push 2703 02:40:55,560 --> 02:40:57,600 something through and you're done. And we're on to the next 2704 02:40:57,600 --> 02:41:02,550 thing. Yeah, of course, they're compromised. And it would like 2705 02:41:02,580 --> 02:41:06,540 like Carlos Slim is not compromising the New York Times 2706 02:41:06,630 --> 02:41:10,140 to write about telecommunications course 2707 02:41:10,200 --> 02:41:10,980 course. 2708 02:41:12,750 --> 02:41:17,010 So this is a nonstory, who cares with Bezos? The Washington know 2709 02:41:17,010 --> 02:41:19,500 what what we're, what we're seeing here is it's kind of like 2710 02:41:19,500 --> 02:41:22,590 your beanie babies. This is when the journalists are starting to 2711 02:41:22,590 --> 02:41:26,160 eat each other. Now they're all yelling at each other. You say 2712 02:41:26,250 --> 02:41:29,730 because you essentially the Washington Post has been saved. 2713 02:41:29,730 --> 02:41:32,010 He said to money though most of these things are money losing 2714 02:41:32,010 --> 02:41:36,210 operations. It's been saved for the foreseeable future 2715 02:41:36,210 --> 02:41:38,610 everyone's happy they got a job. You know, there's I think 2716 02:41:38,610 --> 02:41:42,540 there's journalists unions, they have minimum wage written 2717 02:41:42,570 --> 02:41:46,860 contracts the guild, the guild, thank you. They've got pensions 2718 02:41:46,860 --> 02:41:49,200 and this is a big deal. People care about themselves first and 2719 02:41:49,200 --> 02:41:53,700 foremost. And, and other journalists are sick of it. 2720 02:41:55,140 --> 02:41:59,430 They're all the day the candidate you can't, you can't 2721 02:41:59,430 --> 02:42:02,220 do that. You can't do that. You can't get you to do this. It's 2722 02:42:02,220 --> 02:42:06,270 gonna go back and forth. And then meanwhile, the thieves are 2723 02:42:06,270 --> 02:42:11,490 laughing, stealing our money and then tiptoeing away into the 2724 02:42:11,520 --> 02:42:13,770 into the, into the sunset. 2725 02:42:14,460 --> 02:42:17,700 I have a third party this was says WaPo. Part two, I'm not I 2726 02:42:17,700 --> 02:42:20,280 don't remember what it was. But it was, it was a perfect lead 2727 02:42:20,280 --> 02:42:22,170 into the donation segment, which 2728 02:42:22,439 --> 02:42:24,719 was the clip is longer than the donation segment. 2729 02:42:25,019 --> 02:42:25,769 It's only tourists. 2730 02:42:26,970 --> 02:42:30,540 Post isn't the only newspaper that seeing its reputation 2731 02:42:30,540 --> 02:42:34,110 question. In fact, Americans are losing confidence in all 2732 02:42:34,110 --> 02:42:38,700 newspapers. Is a Gallup poll found back in June, only 23% of 2733 02:42:38,700 --> 02:42:42,600 Americans almost a new historic low have confidence in 2734 02:42:42,630 --> 02:42:43,530 newspapers. 2735 02:42:43,890 --> 02:42:46,530 Yes. According to whose poll a newspaper poll? 2736 02:42:46,920 --> 02:42:49,890 No. 23% is a low number, their new favourite polls would jack 2737 02:42:49,890 --> 02:42:54,870 it up? Well, there you go. 23%. And another was less than one in 2738 02:42:54,870 --> 02:43:02,700 four persons have any confidence in in major media? I mean, gee, 2739 02:43:02,790 --> 02:43:06,210 is that if that's not a lead into like helping people support 2740 02:43:06,210 --> 02:43:07,890 us a little more, I don't know what is? 2741 02:43:08,100 --> 02:43:14,550 Well, yes, absolutely true. And we have more time, we focus on 2742 02:43:14,550 --> 02:43:17,190 less topics, perhaps because, you know, I don't know, we don't 2743 02:43:17,190 --> 02:43:19,560 have to do the Lindsay Lohan story of the Kim Kardashian 2744 02:43:19,560 --> 02:43:22,620 story. We can if we want, we have time to do what's playing 2745 02:43:22,620 --> 02:43:26,550 on the non TV, not for ratings. You know, I went through your 2746 02:43:26,550 --> 02:43:30,840 308 page document. No one even gave you the names. They all 2747 02:43:31,020 --> 02:43:35,580 even Glenn Greenwald route on rap Key said, now just you know, 2748 02:43:35,580 --> 02:43:37,710 White House shills, he didn't even give you the net. It's 2749 02:43:37,710 --> 02:43:40,230 interesting to know who those names are. And then you can then 2750 02:43:40,260 --> 02:43:43,260 immediately understand the insight. This is the kind of 2751 02:43:43,290 --> 02:43:47,430 analysis that anyone could give you. But not with the model that 2752 02:43:47,430 --> 02:43:51,180 they're using. They have to be on the high pay short, hit the 2753 02:43:51,180 --> 02:43:53,370 news at the top of the hour, we got to cut it off for the 2754 02:43:53,370 --> 02:43:57,570 commercial break. That's why I think that's why we've been 2755 02:43:57,570 --> 02:43:59,790 doing it for more than six years. And oh, by the way, we 2756 02:43:59,790 --> 02:44:04,260 make it look easy. So consider what goes into it. Try. Hey, 2757 02:44:04,260 --> 02:44:05,940 please do a show anytime. 2758 02:44:06,630 --> 02:44:09,570 Give it a shot. Go look at a few people try. 2759 02:44:09,600 --> 02:44:11,220 Yeah, go look at the show notes five, 2760 02:44:11,340 --> 02:44:14,910 because I have yet to have a very tolerant family. So as I'm 2761 02:44:14,910 --> 02:44:18,870 sitting there watching like the News Hour and C span and 2762 02:44:18,870 --> 02:44:22,680 whatever else there is, and I'm getting crazy clips, you know, 2763 02:44:23,190 --> 02:44:25,140 they want to watch something they actually they've all given 2764 02:44:25,140 --> 02:44:27,180 up now they're all playing video games to get through and they 2765 02:44:27,180 --> 02:44:29,760 all hold up in their own mind just so you have to have a 2766 02:44:29,760 --> 02:44:33,570 tolerant family to do this. Yes, especially you're just studying 2767 02:44:33,570 --> 02:44:34,290 all the time. 2768 02:44:34,710 --> 02:44:38,520 Yeah. Yeah, it never really stops you just always analysing 2769 02:44:38,520 --> 02:44:42,360 and always looking for unfortunately always looking for 2770 02:44:42,360 --> 02:44:45,540 the angle which sometimes there is just no angle and I think 2771 02:44:45,570 --> 02:44:48,420 family members get tired of you always being looking for the 2772 02:44:48,420 --> 02:44:51,420 angle and just can you just shut up and enjoy it for once. That's 2773 02:44:51,420 --> 02:44:52,470 what I get sometimes. 2774 02:44:53,940 --> 02:44:55,980 I haven't gotten that. Well, no 2775 02:44:55,980 --> 02:45:00,810 but from that for my daughter. It's understandable So please 2776 02:45:00,810 --> 02:45:06,600 support us to vorak.org/na. That is where you can, it doesn't it 2777 02:45:06,600 --> 02:45:09,840 doesn't matter what you support us with all these all the bits 2778 02:45:09,840 --> 02:45:14,160 and bobs help. I'm always astounded by people who say they 2779 02:45:14,190 --> 02:45:21,180 they can't donate canif I'm like $5. Really, really $5 And you 2780 02:45:21,180 --> 02:45:23,580 couldn't find that. Okay? 2781 02:45:23,790 --> 02:45:27,870 No, it's nonsense. When we have kids like the worst, the first 2782 02:45:27,870 --> 02:45:31,110 check kid wrote and wrote to us, there's a lot of students, 2783 02:45:31,380 --> 02:45:35,370 there's, you know, starving artists, they don't come up and 2784 02:45:35,370 --> 02:45:38,010 say there's no excuse me, there's always just the excuse 2785 02:45:38,010 --> 02:45:40,530 is because you don't want to support us. 2786 02:45:41,880 --> 02:45:44,400 But you just want to have a private conversation on email. 2787 02:45:44,430 --> 02:45:47,400 Let me argue with Adam for a little while. That's fun. He'll 2788 02:45:47,400 --> 02:45:51,750 do that for free. But this is a moment to stop and just reflect 2789 02:45:52,230 --> 02:45:56,430 what has happened to us. We are in the in in a fundamental 2790 02:45:56,430 --> 02:46:00,360 monumental change in the world. And we're glossing over it, 2791 02:46:00,540 --> 02:46:04,440 because Facebook, Twitter, Google, et cetera, YouTube, 2792 02:46:05,220 --> 02:46:13,290 Spotify, iTunes, iPods, iPhones, what is capable what you are a 2793 02:46:13,290 --> 02:46:17,220 part of listening to this podcast. That is That is the 2794 02:46:17,220 --> 02:46:23,610 true revolution that is taking place. Because while everyone is 2795 02:46:23,610 --> 02:46:28,350 fighting for position, remember newspaper ads, they'd had the 2796 02:46:28,350 --> 02:46:30,960 classifieds. That's why newspapers ran out of money, 2797 02:46:31,050 --> 02:46:34,740 because the classifieds went to Craigslist and to and to Angie's 2798 02:46:34,740 --> 02:46:37,260 List and all these other places. They and even though they were 2799 02:46:37,260 --> 02:46:40,110 warned, that was their moneymaker was the classified 2800 02:46:40,110 --> 02:46:43,230 ads. And they had no way to make money without being completely 2801 02:46:43,230 --> 02:46:46,500 compromised, because all the advertisers go look at CNET, you 2802 02:46:46,500 --> 02:46:48,810 know, you look at CNET. What are they advertising, ads, 2803 02:46:48,840 --> 02:46:52,110 technology, electronics, gadgets, phones, these people 2804 02:46:52,110 --> 02:46:54,990 compromise, there's no, there's no two ways about it. This is 2805 02:46:54,990 --> 02:46:59,580 what goes they say they're not but they are. We are not 2806 02:46:59,880 --> 02:47:03,750 broadcasting this on YouTube, we're not on Facebook, we're not 2807 02:47:03,750 --> 02:47:07,680 on the Twitter network. We're not owned by anybody, we're run 2808 02:47:07,680 --> 02:47:10,650 by you, you help us distribute the programme with these brand 2809 02:47:10,650 --> 02:47:14,010 new protocols that are disrupting life as we know it, 2810 02:47:14,100 --> 02:47:17,550 the music business is dead over and done with the movie 2811 02:47:17,550 --> 02:47:20,400 business, they're dead, they have to figure it all out all 2812 02:47:20,400 --> 02:47:23,130 over again. And it's going to take another 10 years of the 2813 02:47:23,130 --> 02:47:26,520 struggling and everyone yelling and fighting and legislation and 2814 02:47:26,550 --> 02:47:30,210 eating each other up. Meanwhile, we are just kind of kind of 2815 02:47:30,240 --> 02:47:33,570 eking through the window of opportunity. And as long as we 2816 02:47:33,570 --> 02:47:36,270 can keep the support going. I think we can keep the programme 2817 02:47:36,270 --> 02:47:40,410 and the analysis going. And that is truly something Fendt just 2818 02:47:40,410 --> 02:47:44,820 mind blowing that is happening in your lifetime. And you're a 2819 02:47:44,820 --> 02:47:45,300 part of it. 2820 02:47:47,040 --> 02:47:49,800 That was good. Yeah. Thank you. That was a 10 pointer 2821 02:47:50,730 --> 02:47:56,640 from the 3d, three pointer line. But I really feel that way. Oh, 2822 02:47:56,640 --> 02:47:57,390 and by the way, 2823 02:47:58,740 --> 02:48:02,610 this is why the people that an hour of code, aren't teaching 2824 02:48:02,640 --> 02:48:06,990 Linux, they aren't teaching php. Now they're teaching all the 2825 02:48:06,990 --> 02:48:11,700 commercial crap@code.org Thank you for the number of producers 2826 02:48:11,700 --> 02:48:16,350 who pointed that out to me. I don't want you to really realise 2827 02:48:16,350 --> 02:48:19,050 that the network is there. The protocols are there. The 2828 02:48:19,050 --> 02:48:23,970 software is there. You can do it. Alright, I think I'll go 2829 02:48:23,970 --> 02:48:24,630 collapse now. 2830 02:48:25,320 --> 02:48:28,170 Yes, it's time for you to get some rest my friend. Yeah. For 2831 02:48:28,170 --> 02:48:33,000 the Sunday show coming up. The Big Show where there'll be some 2832 02:48:33,000 --> 02:48:35,130 cool stuff over you know, there's always some cool stuff 2833 02:48:35,130 --> 02:48:37,080 at the end of the week. You'd like to throw some stuff into 2834 02:48:37,080 --> 02:48:40,350 the pot. So it's forgotten by Monday. Yeah, especially with 2835 02:48:40,350 --> 02:48:42,930 Christmas coming up. And Christmas is coming up so it was 2836 02:48:42,930 --> 02:48:43,830 gonna be shopping. 2837 02:48:46,050 --> 02:48:48,240 Someone will be shopping somewhere. 2838 02:48:48,869 --> 02:48:50,879 Someone's shopping it all the time. It's always in the 2839 02:48:50,879 --> 02:48:53,339 morning. Alright, everybody coming to you from FEMA 2840 02:48:53,340 --> 02:48:56,910 Region six here in Austin, Texas at the Travis heights hideouts 2841 02:48:57,780 --> 02:48:58,980 in the morning. I'm Adam curry. 2842 02:48:59,189 --> 02:49:02,999 And from somewhere one of the FEMA regions nine I believe. 2843 02:49:04,319 --> 02:49:07,169 Also known as Northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak. 2844 02:49:07,169 --> 02:49:07,319 We'll 2845 02:49:07,320 --> 02:49:10,860 be back on Sunday right here on no agenda 2846 02:49:16,290 --> 02:49:27,150 don't laugh why you're laughing? The borak.org/n A