1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,030 Any other intro was that good enough? That's good enough. Adam 2 00:00:03,030 --> 00:00:07,440 curry, John C. Dvorak. Sunday, August 24 2014. Time for your 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:13,260 Gitmo nation media assassination episode 646. This is no agenda 4 00:00:14,190 --> 00:00:17,580 monitoring charge 2.0 from the South Austin safe house here in 5 00:00:17,580 --> 00:00:20,250 FEMA Region six in the capital, the drone Star State in the 6 00:00:20,250 --> 00:00:21,900 morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry 7 00:00:21,930 --> 00:00:24,930 and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's supposed to be 8 00:00:24,930 --> 00:00:29,820 boiling hot and it's not. I'm John C. Dvorak. Levin books 9 00:00:29,820 --> 00:00:30,300 kill. 10 00:00:33,030 --> 00:00:34,500 I'm just happy you're alive. 11 00:00:34,830 --> 00:00:36,840 Why not? What if you 12 00:00:36,870 --> 00:00:41,580 watch television all of Northern California is broken? It is. 13 00:00:42,030 --> 00:00:44,730 There was a 6.0 magnitude earthquake. 14 00:00:44,820 --> 00:00:47,130 Yeah, it was in the morning around three. Supposedly it 15 00:00:47,130 --> 00:00:50,550 didn't wake anybody around here now. It was one of those 16 00:00:50,550 --> 00:00:54,120 rollers, which doesn't make you sad. It doesn't. That's not the 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,580 kind of Quake that'll wake in the middle of the night. It 18 00:00:56,580 --> 00:01:02,670 actually pushed deeper to sleep. Rockabye, baby. I've been in a 19 00:01:02,670 --> 00:01:03,360 lot of those. 20 00:01:04,410 --> 00:01:07,110 But yeah, I've been in a couple in LA. So 21 00:01:07,380 --> 00:01:10,230 things are rolling. You know, it's like rolling along. 22 00:01:10,500 --> 00:01:12,840 Everyone's showing this in wine country. I 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,260 presume this is yes, it was up in the Napa Valley. And I'm 24 00:01:16,260 --> 00:01:16,740 seeing 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,690 people tweeting pictures of entire wineries, all the bottles 26 00:01:21,690 --> 00:01:24,360 destroyed. Oh, the travesty. 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,230 Two bottles get on the show. Okay. 28 00:01:28,260 --> 00:01:33,030 It's possible, possible. And this 6.0 magnitude, it is always 29 00:01:33,030 --> 00:01:37,440 important for us to reiterate that this is no longer the 30 00:01:37,470 --> 00:01:42,540 Richter scale. If this were a 6.0 on the Richter scale. There 31 00:01:42,540 --> 00:01:44,160 would be a lot of dead people. 32 00:01:44,460 --> 00:01:48,150 I think I would have felt it. Oh, totally. This is a no no, 33 00:01:48,150 --> 00:01:52,350 this is the bull crap scale that they make it up as you go along. 34 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,410 Will they feel anything? Yeah, we'll call it a six. That's 35 00:01:55,410 --> 00:01:59,040 exactly right. If things fall off the wall, I believe that 36 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:04,740 means it's a four. And I think six is right below. Seven is 37 00:02:04,740 --> 00:02:09,540 where you have some real damage. And six is powerful. But it has 38 00:02:09,540 --> 00:02:12,360 nothing to do with the actual measurement anymore of the 39 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,880 Richter scale. This is no longer used. That's why they call it 40 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,260 bit dropping. That's why they call it magnitude. And it sounds 41 00:02:19,260 --> 00:02:21,720 great though, because you can really frighten people six. 42 00:02:22,290 --> 00:02:25,200 Crikey. It was a six. 43 00:02:25,709 --> 00:02:28,949 So I have a little anecdote about broken bottles. Okay, 44 00:02:29,039 --> 00:02:32,159 there's a wine store in San Francisco which I get a lot of 45 00:02:32,159 --> 00:02:35,069 my wine from because they have good prices and they're devoted 46 00:02:35,069 --> 00:02:38,309 to the name or is this the candle? Oh, okay. And I'll sure 47 00:02:38,369 --> 00:02:42,209 and so can al they had the big quake in 89 which is the one 48 00:02:42,209 --> 00:02:45,149 that shook the it was the World Series was going on it shipped 49 00:02:45,149 --> 00:02:48,599 to place and dropped to freeways. There's a mess. 50 00:02:48,810 --> 00:02:52,320 The Candlestick Park game was happening, right? Yes. Live and 51 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,300 it was I remember that. I remember being in New York and 52 00:02:54,300 --> 00:02:57,060 everyone's like, I was in a recording studio with Joan Jett 53 00:02:57,060 --> 00:03:00,840 of all people. Oh, yeah, and everyone Oh, 54 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,160 interesting. I was actually in Abilene, Texas. I was always 55 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,950 told to go into a safe spot when there's a quake and you thought 56 00:03:07,950 --> 00:03:12,330 Abilene was close enough seem so whatever the case was the guys 57 00:03:12,330 --> 00:03:18,540 at Cornell told me that when the warehouse was decimated by the 58 00:03:18,540 --> 00:03:18,990 quake 59 00:03:19,050 --> 00:03:21,960 decimated does that mean only 10% of it was broke? Yeah, 60 00:03:22,020 --> 00:03:28,830 but 10% Exactly. There was the board dough boxes which are 61 00:03:28,830 --> 00:03:34,020 wooden and they hold 12 bottles and the bottles are inside the 62 00:03:34,020 --> 00:03:39,330 wooden box with with wooden separators and the not one 63 00:03:39,330 --> 00:03:45,270 bottle of Bordeaux was destroyed in the in the shaking but all 64 00:03:45,510 --> 00:03:50,070 anything that was in a cardboard box is all busted up. So the old 65 00:03:50,070 --> 00:03:54,600 way the old Bordeaux box the old wooden box with the wooden 66 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:59,130 separators the French way the French Way is the safest way in 67 00:03:59,130 --> 00:04:03,780 an earthquake area. Mexico those never nobody would acknowledge 68 00:04:03,780 --> 00:04:07,770 this. Let me they did the store but I mean it's like nobody's 69 00:04:07,770 --> 00:04:10,140 written this up or maybe mentioned this to me right now. 70 00:04:10,980 --> 00:04:14,700 So the bottles that I saw that we're on the ground 71 00:04:16,050 --> 00:04:17,280 in Napa Yeah, we 72 00:04:17,340 --> 00:04:22,140 were a it looked like they were in a salary storage salary. So 73 00:04:22,140 --> 00:04:24,960 he would celery sticks a cellar I'm sorry, seller seller 74 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:25,740 storage. 75 00:04:26,580 --> 00:04:29,550 Where do you Where are you storing your celery pointing the 76 00:04:29,580 --> 00:04:30,780 brain with it at me 77 00:04:30,780 --> 00:04:34,530 a CIA? confusing me. I'm looking 78 00:04:37,230 --> 00:04:44,010 at is already impossible show title 1989 Loma pre pre pre pre 79 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:48,900 created earthquake. I'm looking at the book of knowledge entry. 80 00:04:49,950 --> 00:04:58,380 And this, according to the book of knowledge was a 7.10 but 81 00:04:58,380 --> 00:05:03,240 that's 7.1 on the moment mag Get to scale. So that is compared to 82 00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:07,710 this it is on the same scale. I would like to see at a Richter 83 00:05:07,710 --> 00:05:08,400 scale. 84 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:13,020 Yeah, you know, the rich are dumb the way they're doing it 85 00:05:13,020 --> 00:05:15,900 now because you can't make real comparisons. And then they say, 86 00:05:15,900 --> 00:05:19,200 well, one's a different kind. What's an uplift and one's an S 87 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,960 wave. And they're making all these different designs. 88 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:23,700 Is that your scientific voice? 89 00:05:24,540 --> 00:05:27,030 Yeah, that is my new scientific voice. 90 00:05:27,750 --> 00:05:30,600 And yeah, it's wave. Now. 91 00:05:32,580 --> 00:05:34,590 Let me see. Okay, well, anyway, enough of that. What else is 92 00:05:34,590 --> 00:05:35,070 going on? 93 00:05:35,490 --> 00:05:37,620 Well, I thought that was. 94 00:05:39,750 --> 00:05:43,980 I liked it. I just when all this happens, and Molly and Mickey 95 00:05:43,980 --> 00:05:47,220 are in Los Angeles, to Los Angeles and Los Angeles this 96 00:05:47,220 --> 00:05:49,110 weekend. And why? 97 00:05:49,830 --> 00:05:52,170 Oh, you're just going to be troubled. This is trouble. 98 00:05:54,510 --> 00:05:55,740 Of course, it's trouble. 99 00:05:57,030 --> 00:06:00,600 Molly, I think. I don't know what I'm not supposed to talk 100 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:00,780 about 101 00:06:01,469 --> 00:06:02,279 that guy. 102 00:06:06,330 --> 00:06:13,230 It's like the standard women's anything. Exactly. Just with a 103 00:06:13,230 --> 00:06:15,120 routine to their mom's teaching. 104 00:06:16,500 --> 00:06:18,960 me just ask you, is that your Mollywood voice? I just want to 105 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,610 make sure we've got everything straight. 106 00:06:22,050 --> 00:06:25,290 I mean, they get paid nothing at all. He just stays at home. They 107 00:06:25,290 --> 00:06:27,600 met No, again, at least she's cynical. 108 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,910 No agenda, a bunch of right wing nuts. Stop. 109 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,970 And Mickey wanted to visit a few people in LA. And she's flying 110 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,880 Monday to Amsterdam, and I'm flying Monday from here. So 111 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,680 we're kind of connecting sometime on Tuesday. And then on 112 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,890 Monday, you're flying Monday I'm flying. Correct. Okay, and 113 00:06:49,890 --> 00:06:54,120 writing this down. Please write that down. And one of the Molly 114 00:06:54,120 --> 00:07:00,120 I think, had asked Mickey to be her date for a pre Emmy party in 115 00:07:00,930 --> 00:07:03,840 the Beverly Hills or the Hollywood Hills or some mansion 116 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:04,860 some Gee, I 117 00:07:04,860 --> 00:07:07,620 wonder how many pre Emmy parties there are probably 1000s 118 00:07:08,430 --> 00:07:11,640 I don't think 1000s But there are certainly a number of them. 119 00:07:12,630 --> 00:07:17,430 And some are better than others. And this was from what I 120 00:07:17,430 --> 00:07:22,920 understand this was a party from some Silicon Valley guy who has 121 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,680 a house there or maybe his in LA Silicon Valley 122 00:07:26,340 --> 00:07:29,700 was you know, it was no I like to know I don't know, 123 00:07:29,700 --> 00:07:34,320 I was not informed. We should ask and from what I understand 124 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,880 emails, emails went out to everyone who Somalia was invited 125 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:43,890 to this and emails went out to everybody. No photos, no social 126 00:07:43,890 --> 00:07:47,400 media. Hush, hush hush hush 127 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,640 yeah, now I really want to know who do what douche bag it is. 128 00:07:55,620 --> 00:07:58,080 Douche bag list on me the point scale. 129 00:07:59,190 --> 00:08:02,700 And I said to Mickey, I said this can't be any good. 130 00:08:04,590 --> 00:08:07,920 Any party that is worth having in Los Angeles. You gotta have 131 00:08:07,950 --> 00:08:11,460 you know people falling into pools off of King and cliffs. 132 00:08:11,490 --> 00:08:14,430 You gotta have cops cops. You gotta have everyone's got it's 133 00:08:14,430 --> 00:08:16,440 got to be all over social media. 134 00:08:18,810 --> 00:08:19,620 I don't know. 135 00:08:22,470 --> 00:08:24,330 I don't know. I will have a report. 136 00:08:24,330 --> 00:08:26,880 I have just to give you a feeling of this kind of thing. I 137 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:32,070 have a small clip. Oh, boy. Now normally I if you don't if you 138 00:08:32,070 --> 00:08:37,020 remember I once decided to cover for the show the AVN Awards, 139 00:08:37,049 --> 00:08:41,039 the adult video network, is it No, no, 140 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:44,729 no, it's the I don't know what it is. But it's adult video 141 00:08:44,729 --> 00:08:48,449 something. It's it's an Oscars for porn. And so and this is the 142 00:08:48,449 --> 00:08:52,199 worst show ever. And it's very profane. And these girls are 143 00:08:52,379 --> 00:08:55,319 it's just really a shame that they represent them. It's kind 144 00:08:55,319 --> 00:09:02,459 of stupid is dumb sounding women and I'm going to play a small 145 00:09:02,459 --> 00:09:07,259 clip. It said it's the of the two hosts. These are the two 146 00:09:07,469 --> 00:09:11,729 women that are hosting the event and they bring them on stage 147 00:09:11,729 --> 00:09:15,719 after a ribald comic a woman that was pretty funny comes on 148 00:09:15,719 --> 00:09:18,059 stage and she's essentially ridicules men and I 149 00:09:18,060 --> 00:09:21,450 just ask you Is this from this year's award ceremonies from the 150 00:09:21,450 --> 00:09:21,840 tortoise 151 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,600 one that just this week to run they ran? They're running I'm on 152 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,010 Showtime or something may 153 00:09:26,010 --> 00:09:31,920 I ask you why? There was no text message Adam turn on Show times 154 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,530 on they play it over and over again. I don't want you need to 155 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:36,150 alert me to these things. 156 00:09:36,330 --> 00:09:38,610 Believe me. Can't watch it. 157 00:09:39,690 --> 00:09:42,090 And you did. So you jumped on the grenade. 158 00:09:42,390 --> 00:09:45,960 I watched it Yeah, I only pull this little bit out just to show 159 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,710 you what you'd have to deal with. On a long term basis with 160 00:09:49,710 --> 00:09:53,610 a lot more profanity. I took the what was actually a record 161 00:09:53,610 --> 00:09:55,800 breaking moment where I think they went a minute how long is 162 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,970 that clip? 51 seconds 51 seconds without cussing like a truck. 163 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,800 driver, but how hot and how hot they are these two women find it 164 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,930 to be here. Now we're not that 165 00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:12,300 excited. Are you excited? 166 00:10:14,759 --> 00:10:16,529 That sounds like Natalie Morris. 167 00:10:21,210 --> 00:10:24,480 That's right. We have a great show planned for you tonight 168 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,480 with a lot of fabulous entertainment. 169 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,980 That's right. That's Mark Stone and DJ star they'll be playing 170 00:10:32,010 --> 00:10:33,300 original music 171 00:10:38,850 --> 00:10:41,970 going to be back out here in just a little bit with another 172 00:10:41,970 --> 00:10:46,530 song for you. And tonight live on this very stage we are going 173 00:10:46,530 --> 00:10:53,160 to be treated to a very special performance by Zumanity side of 174 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,180 circus select. 175 00:10:55,380 --> 00:10:59,370 That's gonna be so hot and so cool. And I can't wait to see 176 00:10:59,370 --> 00:11:02,430 it. Right. Okay, 177 00:11:02,490 --> 00:11:08,490 can you I mean, it's just a screeching, whiny, horrid. We 178 00:11:08,490 --> 00:11:13,830 can't even say words without them sounding like they're being 179 00:11:13,830 --> 00:11:17,370 read by a five year old. I it just unwatchable. 180 00:11:17,700 --> 00:11:18,930 I blame. I blame them. 181 00:11:18,990 --> 00:11:21,960 I blame this industry that could find out a couple of women who 182 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,340 were intelligent. I blame this 183 00:11:23,340 --> 00:11:27,510 on the MTV Video Music Awards. This is what it has evolved to. 184 00:11:27,990 --> 00:11:31,290 When they when the Video Music Awards first started the first 185 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:37,410 awards, I would say 84 I think. And by the way up until 1990s 186 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:42,750 When I left 1993. So for it was for Bolton to call them the 187 00:11:42,750 --> 00:11:47,370 VMAs. Which makes so much sense. No, we had to stop the segment. 188 00:11:47,430 --> 00:11:52,770 It's the Video Music Award. You can't say VMAs. Branding, right? 189 00:11:52,830 --> 00:11:56,640 And of course now it is the branding is VMAs because you are 190 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,330 unstoppable. But this is how this is mostly, 191 00:12:00,330 --> 00:12:05,580 you know, the branding theorists will tell you that you're not 192 00:12:05,580 --> 00:12:09,240 the one that should control the branding. Thank you. Thank you, 193 00:12:09,390 --> 00:12:12,870 which is a fact. And you are so because you don't know the 194 00:12:12,870 --> 00:12:16,380 brand, right? You you portray the brand, but you don't 195 00:12:16,380 --> 00:12:18,720 actually know because you're not the consumer of the brand. 196 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,830 Right, right. Right. I tell this to people constantly. And I say 197 00:12:23,100 --> 00:12:25,110 because they're asking me what should I do? This should No, no, 198 00:12:25,110 --> 00:12:28,560 no, you let them you let your your you let your customer the 199 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:32,010 buyer, you're not the buyer. I mean, even with this show, we 200 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,590 don't consume the show, we produce the show, we do the 201 00:12:34,590 --> 00:12:38,910 show. It's the the other side of the picture that knows the brand 202 00:12:38,910 --> 00:12:40,980 better than we do, because they're the ones that are buying 203 00:12:40,980 --> 00:12:41,520 the show. 204 00:12:41,550 --> 00:12:46,890 And this brings me to something very important. I was having 205 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:52,050 drinks and dinner with a friend. I have a couple of guy friends 206 00:12:52,050 --> 00:12:57,060 here. 122 and a half, maybe three. And this is we've spoken 207 00:12:57,060 --> 00:13:01,530 about him before. This is the big time New York banker who he 208 00:13:01,530 --> 00:13:04,230 is actually now officially retired. He's my age he has 209 00:13:04,230 --> 00:13:07,710 retired and has gotten out of the industry and moved his 210 00:13:07,710 --> 00:13:12,180 family to Austin from New York City and mainly for his kids. 211 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,730 Right? You told us this right? I don't know if I told anyone on 212 00:13:14,730 --> 00:13:16,560 the show. But I know I told you privately. 213 00:13:17,010 --> 00:13:18,480 I think we brought it up. Okay. 214 00:13:19,140 --> 00:13:23,370 And I like him because he's also trying to figure out what the 215 00:13:23,370 --> 00:13:27,090 heck he's doing in Austin. What is it? You know, we're very much 216 00:13:27,090 --> 00:13:30,810 the same level. But he has a lot of insight into the financial 217 00:13:30,810 --> 00:13:35,490 industry and really understands the big game. He I think, well, 218 00:13:35,970 --> 00:13:40,080 I asked him a couple of things. And our wives have connected and 219 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,350 they've had actually that's what he sent me an email. Our wives 220 00:13:43,350 --> 00:13:47,760 have had two drinks two times together. This is not good. You 221 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,960 must must must connect you stopped 222 00:13:53,970 --> 00:13:55,620 Why are you marry to that guy? 223 00:13:56,820 --> 00:13:58,290 Why are you married to that guy? 224 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,440 And we we go by and first we're having he actually let's first 225 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,780 have drinks first and then go have dinner. So this is starting 226 00:14:09,780 --> 00:14:16,830 off well. And we're talking and and I find I talk a little bit 227 00:14:16,830 --> 00:14:21,540 about what what he just retired from. And he was he says you 228 00:14:21,540 --> 00:14:25,950 know all financial business, all positions, it is all sales every 229 00:14:25,980 --> 00:14:29,910 and it's either sales or someone who's programming the machine 230 00:14:29,910 --> 00:14:34,170 but otherwise everyone's in sales. And they believe he his 231 00:14:34,170 --> 00:14:40,890 job was selling big products to countries. So I think he's he's 232 00:14:40,890 --> 00:14:45,390 not working for Goldman, but is a big big big firm probably one 233 00:14:45,390 --> 00:14:48,000 of the the only healthy firms still left 234 00:14:49,980 --> 00:14:52,830 and even that's in question that would be Goldman to me, but now 235 00:14:52,830 --> 00:14:54,300 there's another one. And 236 00:14:56,370 --> 00:14:59,280 and I think he probably Yeah, he probably although it's not 237 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,460 Goldman, I'm sure You sell, like what Goldman did did to Greece 238 00:15:02,460 --> 00:15:05,160 and the products they sold that I think that's the kind of stuff 239 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,400 he was in. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So that makes sense. It's big 240 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:13,800 business. And besides him telling me that, that, you know, 241 00:15:13,860 --> 00:15:18,420 seven of the 10 people who knows who are high level, and with 242 00:15:18,420 --> 00:15:22,440 high level I'm talking B level. So he says he was a B level 243 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,250 banker in New York, not a where you have the 100 million dollar 244 00:15:26,250 --> 00:15:29,100 pad and you know, you're always at the right restaurant with 245 00:15:29,100 --> 00:15:34,410 your own table that is roped off, and you have the 15,000 246 00:15:34,410 --> 00:15:37,830 square foot mansion in the Hamptons. But he was below, 247 00:15:38,460 --> 00:15:41,040 which is big, I would say I consider that to be pretty big. 248 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,990 And he said, seven of the 10 people he knows of his level. 249 00:15:46,770 --> 00:15:49,110 They have no idea if they're going to have a job in six 250 00:15:49,110 --> 00:15:53,550 months. They're all worried. Sure. crapless 251 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,740 Yeah, all the time that he 252 00:15:55,740 --> 00:15:59,130 says this is unique. These guys. He said this is very unique, 253 00:15:59,130 --> 00:16:04,020 that they are so worried. It's different, he says subsequently, 254 00:16:04,470 --> 00:16:06,600 and I'm going to get to the branding part. Subsequently, we 255 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:11,970 talked about something he's calling tarp 2.0. Which, as you 256 00:16:12,030 --> 00:16:16,830 recall, TARP was the the so called bailout of the banks in 257 00:16:16,860 --> 00:16:21,360 2008 months, right troubled assets, which really benefited 258 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:26,430 only the biggest benefit came to one group of banks, and that is 259 00:16:26,700 --> 00:16:31,140 foreign banks. And we're so when he says tarp 2.0 He says the 260 00:16:31,140 --> 00:16:34,620 European Union is going to need something very quickly. 261 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,460 Yeah, I think there's been Yeah, and but it may call he stays 262 00:16:38,460 --> 00:16:40,860 connected. In other words to do to the whole to that, 263 00:16:40,980 --> 00:16:43,320 what's that there's not you can read Bloomberg and stay 264 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,590 connected. He understands. He understands this business, he 265 00:16:46,590 --> 00:16:47,040 looks at 266 00:16:48,090 --> 00:16:50,790 an asset, you can read Bloomberg and not know what the hell 267 00:16:50,790 --> 00:16:53,130 you're reading, right. But he's in a way, he's an important 268 00:16:53,130 --> 00:16:56,610 asset to the show the point you're making. Now that we know 269 00:16:56,610 --> 00:16:59,670 that the European Union is going to collapse, I don't branding is 270 00:16:59,670 --> 00:17:00,060 really 271 00:17:00,270 --> 00:17:03,720 no. And of course that so he's given I'm just telling you this 272 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,470 because he's good info. And then we're starting to talk a little 273 00:17:07,470 --> 00:17:10,350 bit on my side of the fence and I'm talking about, you know, the 274 00:17:10,350 --> 00:17:16,320 caliphate and, and, and I said, you know, ISIS ISIL is, you 275 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,920 know, but what is this crap? And he said, I think this is the 276 00:17:19,950 --> 00:17:24,990 this is the perfect branding. This is so good. These guys are 277 00:17:24,990 --> 00:17:29,340 so sleazy. He says those guys guys are so scary. For you guys 278 00:17:29,370 --> 00:17:32,310 know, but also these guys are so scary. No one even knows what 279 00:17:32,310 --> 00:17:39,000 the column. Yeah, he thought the ISIS ISIL is was was was the was 280 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,480 done on purpose. And that and of course it is, 281 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,960 which again, makes it look government. Well. 282 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:47,700 Hello. 283 00:17:48,870 --> 00:17:56,250 I was thinking about this about the is it possible that ISIS, 284 00:17:56,250 --> 00:17:59,250 which you came out of was well equipped by us, which came out 285 00:17:59,250 --> 00:18:02,910 of Syria as as one of the groups that was attacking that couldn't 286 00:18:02,910 --> 00:18:03,570 succeed? 287 00:18:05,310 --> 00:18:07,650 Before that, really? I mean, move from Libya. It's yeah, 288 00:18:07,650 --> 00:18:10,680 it's the same. It's just some group that were behind somehow. 289 00:18:11,490 --> 00:18:16,860 Is it possible that the entire Iraq adventure was designed from 290 00:18:16,860 --> 00:18:21,570 the beginning to have this? This is not a big surprise to 291 00:18:21,570 --> 00:18:25,800 anybody? We're all flabbergast Oh, my God. Now what? But is it? 292 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:31,230 It'd be we wanted to rub allies and destroy and re design the 293 00:18:31,230 --> 00:18:34,410 country so we could have our little Kurdish buddies have 294 00:18:34,410 --> 00:18:37,230 their own little country and it just took a lot longer than we 295 00:18:37,230 --> 00:18:40,950 thought it would is there was a resiliency and a kind of a fake 296 00:18:40,950 --> 00:18:44,670 nationalism amongst the Iraqis who really aren't. A country is 297 00:18:44,670 --> 00:18:47,340 not a country was one of these countries that was dreamed up 298 00:18:47,340 --> 00:18:52,770 after World War One. I think this is going according to plan. 299 00:18:53,100 --> 00:18:57,480 Well, we have discussed the the, the the Kurdistan and the 300 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,080 Kurdish state and breaking up Iraq into three was part of the 301 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:06,030 original 2003 invasion. And it didn't work out that way for a 302 00:19:06,030 --> 00:19:10,110 number of reasons. I think there are multiple agendas at play. 303 00:19:10,110 --> 00:19:14,940 And this is the McCain's of the world. See this right? They see 304 00:19:14,940 --> 00:19:17,430 Yeah, let's break it up. And it's good for the oil and for 305 00:19:17,430 --> 00:19:22,980 our buddies. I believe there is a bigger game at play, which 306 00:19:22,980 --> 00:19:26,700 kind of leads into the the globalists who really don't have 307 00:19:26,700 --> 00:19:34,170 any patriotic mission for their country like America. And I was 308 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:39,960 fun. I was watching a video. I like to watch the if you ever 309 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,890 spoken to someone who's Israeli or Arabic, but I've had it with 310 00:19:43,890 --> 00:19:48,060 Israelis the most and they are so they'll say things like you 311 00:19:48,060 --> 00:19:52,140 don't you don't need a PhD to understand this. Okay, 312 00:19:52,170 --> 00:19:54,630 I hope they don't say it like that, but I'm sorry, 313 00:19:54,630 --> 00:19:55,860 I couldn't couldn't quite get it up. 314 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,810 I would say you don't need a PhD to understand this. clear that's 315 00:20:00,810 --> 00:20:06,090 all I can do I might Israeli guy is now Frank Underwood that the 316 00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:10,650 the the puppet masters use that name is there's something much 317 00:20:10,650 --> 00:20:14,400 bigger and it seems like America is known was at Pax Americana 318 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,070 you know America keeps the peace this is what it started with, 319 00:20:17,370 --> 00:20:21,060 kind of like the Marshall Plan and and you know we're making 320 00:20:21,060 --> 00:20:24,060 sure everything's calm and cool and collected and and really 321 00:20:24,060 --> 00:20:29,100 what's happening from where from my vantage point is it seems 322 00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:33,360 like almost purposely the way the media is and the way had 323 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:37,440 this has evolved and thank God we have social media, could it 324 00:20:37,470 --> 00:20:42,810 get any better? We we are throwing messages at people and 325 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:48,150 incidences and situations sometimes as often as 24 hours 326 00:20:48,150 --> 00:20:51,300 but we can also build something up so it'll be in America 327 00:20:51,300 --> 00:20:58,050 certainly, you know, a Russian plane shut down and mh 17 shut 328 00:20:58,050 --> 00:21:03,780 down. But Russia did Putin then we have caliphate and then we 329 00:21:03,780 --> 00:21:07,890 have we have South Africa Ebola and it's just and it's going 330 00:21:07,890 --> 00:21:08,760 back and forth and 331 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,310 things are really pounding us Yeah. 332 00:21:11,310 --> 00:21:15,840 So that you you remain kind of in this powerless state when 333 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:20,910 it's so your mind is is blocked from concentrating on one thing 334 00:21:20,910 --> 00:21:23,910 and seeing the reality kind of thing you kind of imprisoned in 335 00:21:23,910 --> 00:21:24,330 this 336 00:21:24,690 --> 00:21:26,910 that's why you would fall so popular Yes. 337 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,920 Yes you're you're imprisoned in 338 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,620 a baseball game nothing could be more relaxing than that. 339 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,600 But the way this is done with this distraction back and forth 340 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:41,220 your your you are in prison by superficiality almost. And then 341 00:21:41,250 --> 00:21:44,190 of course we throw something called reality at you. 342 00:21:44,820 --> 00:21:48,840 And you get imprisoned by this clip. 343 00:21:50,220 --> 00:21:53,100 Oh, are we flowing today or what? What are we? Oh, I see it. 344 00:21:53,910 --> 00:21:57,120 This became guard dash itself. deescalate 345 00:21:57,120 --> 00:22:00,720 Kim Kardashian fans will be happy the American reality TV 346 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,960 star has announced She'll soon be releasing a book of her best 347 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:09,780 selfies. The 352 page book entitled selfish is due to hit 348 00:22:09,780 --> 00:22:14,130 stores from April 2015. And it comes as no great surprise as 349 00:22:14,130 --> 00:22:18,120 the Instagram page will testify. The 33 year old is something of 350 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:19,440 a selfie devotee. 351 00:22:19,770 --> 00:22:20,820 Hey, now 352 00:22:20,850 --> 00:22:27,090 I can't wait. Can you imagine this will be a best seller. Oh 353 00:22:27,090 --> 00:22:30,870 yeah. Priestess. It's a bunch of stupid pictures of herself taken 354 00:22:30,870 --> 00:22:35,820 by herself. Get a photo credit. I mean, she some believable I 355 00:22:35,820 --> 00:22:38,550 happen to know something about this book. That's not entirely 356 00:22:38,550 --> 00:22:43,140 true. She shot a lot of this on her vacation in in Thailand. 357 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:49,260 Wait, hold on a second stop. You happen to know a lot about this 358 00:22:49,260 --> 00:22:50,040 book. Yep. 359 00:22:50,790 --> 00:22:53,940 Yeah, I saw the episode where she was making it you may 360 00:22:53,940 --> 00:22:58,770 continue okay. This is important research. And if you think that 361 00:22:58,770 --> 00:23:04,650 doesn't affect me and I did that it's not a dangerous task. And 362 00:23:04,650 --> 00:23:06,990 you were mistaken my friend but I do these things for the show. 363 00:23:08,340 --> 00:23:13,110 So yeah, I did very professional camera and she got a light ring 364 00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:15,420 on it says not to phone selfie stick pretty good. And she had 365 00:23:15,420 --> 00:23:18,030 her assistant take some pictures over it's not it's but it is all 366 00:23:18,030 --> 00:23:20,520 of her that's for sure. But they're not specifically 367 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,360 selfies. And I do just need to remind everybody about the just 368 00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:26,670 quickly and I'll get off at it. But it's important. They're new 369 00:23:26,670 --> 00:23:29,040 listeners to the show every day or people who just don't listen 370 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,500 at all they think they're listening because they're in the 371 00:23:31,860 --> 00:23:36,750 superficiality of the media. The selfies phenomenon in 372 00:23:36,780 --> 00:23:41,040 combination with oh really with your your portable jewel 373 00:23:41,070 --> 00:23:43,770 Bejeweled device with your camera, your phone and the 374 00:23:43,770 --> 00:23:47,550 social media networks is an international health crisis. 375 00:23:47,670 --> 00:23:50,460 Because you are not portraying reality you're seeing all of 376 00:23:50,460 --> 00:23:53,130 your friends wonderful life. They're fantastic looking food, 377 00:23:53,130 --> 00:23:56,730 the beautiful sunsets and you want to portray the same thing, 378 00:23:56,910 --> 00:23:59,550 which is by taking a picture Hold on a second. I had my eyes 379 00:23:59,550 --> 00:24:01,350 shut didn't get the right set. Are you looking good? Yeah, 380 00:24:01,350 --> 00:24:03,390 you're looking good. Oh, perfect. Smile. Great. Oh, yeah. 381 00:24:03,390 --> 00:24:08,160 Fantastic. I like a crop rotate, filter, upload post. Hey, wait a 382 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,380 minute. No one's liked it yet. Why haven't they liked to come 383 00:24:10,380 --> 00:24:12,000 on? Please like my photo? I really want you to like my 384 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,980 photo. This is not healthy behavior. And this is this is 385 00:24:16,980 --> 00:24:20,340 the this is some form of another tipping point with Kim 386 00:24:20,340 --> 00:24:22,560 Kardashians. Selfie book. 387 00:24:22,590 --> 00:24:26,370 Oh, yeah. Hi, I agree. And again, selfies are also 388 00:24:26,370 --> 00:24:31,470 dangerous. Apparently a couple fell off a cliff. And then 389 00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:34,230 another guy shot himself in the head because apparently he likes 390 00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:38,400 to take selfies the Mexican kid Latino who'd like to put a gun 391 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:43,410 to his own head and it takes off and I guess he pushed the wrong 392 00:24:43,410 --> 00:24:43,980 button. 393 00:24:44,010 --> 00:24:48,540 Well, okay, so we are jumping around a bit but I have done 394 00:24:48,540 --> 00:24:52,920 some work on this. And last night was Saturday night I'm 395 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,600 here at the at the safe house. And as you know, certainly on 396 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,770 Saturday nights I like to drink My herbal tea and browse through 397 00:25:01,770 --> 00:25:08,670 my medical journals. And I knew what I was looking for. And I it 398 00:25:08,670 --> 00:25:10,920 was based upon something you said in our previous 399 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,760 conversation of a related topic, which is the Ice Bucket 400 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,920 Challenge. This is a part of the phenomenon and you said 401 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,190 something that triggered my thinking and then I connected a 402 00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:27,570 couple dots you said that Bill Gates doing this must be because 403 00:25:27,570 --> 00:25:32,850 he is completely guilt ridden. At which I according to the 404 00:25:32,850 --> 00:25:35,850 medical journals, and the research, professional divorce, 405 00:25:36,090 --> 00:25:40,530 you are correct, but only partially correct for the entire 406 00:25:40,830 --> 00:25:45,360 phenomenon. There is a compendium of research that I 407 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:52,080 found from Stanford University. And the and this is from 2010 is 408 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,550 a compendium or a collection of research documents and 409 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:03,120 conclusions. And the title of this Compendium is coined the 410 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:07,950 term moral self licensing. Are you familiar with this? 411 00:26:09,090 --> 00:26:13,080 Continue? This is very, this is very, very good. And I of 412 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,320 course, I have this document highlighted and annotated in the 413 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,190 show notes. But let me read a couple things and you jump in 414 00:26:20,190 --> 00:26:23,490 when you feel appropriate the abstract past good deeds can 415 00:26:23,490 --> 00:26:28,080 liberate individuals to engage in behaviors that are immoral, 416 00:26:28,350 --> 00:26:32,460 unethical, or otherwise problematic. behaviors that they 417 00:26:32,460 --> 00:26:36,840 would otherwise avoid for fear of feeling or appearing immoral. 418 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,510 In this companion, we research, moral self licensing and the 419 00:26:42,510 --> 00:26:45,660 effect in the domains of political correctness, pro 420 00:26:45,660 --> 00:26:50,520 social behavior, and consumer choice. This John is 421 00:26:50,550 --> 00:26:51,960 gonna die. 422 00:26:53,790 --> 00:26:54,990 Oh, I'm sorry, 423 00:26:55,140 --> 00:27:01,320 gold, Jerry. It is gold. It also explains a lot about what the 424 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,550 precursor to this is, which is the changing your Twitter icon, 425 00:27:06,150 --> 00:27:12,570 texting a $5 donation for a concert for the Haiti. But it 426 00:27:12,570 --> 00:27:18,690 works both ways. So we the obvious presumption is, oh, wow, 427 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,670 if I change my Twitter icon, I will feel much better about 428 00:27:23,670 --> 00:27:26,280 something that I'm you know, that I haven't done anything 429 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,920 about. But when you dive into the research, it is not just 430 00:27:32,970 --> 00:27:35,910 making yourself feel better for not having some done something. 431 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:38,910 The research shows quite conclusively from multiple 432 00:27:38,910 --> 00:27:43,410 studies, that when you do something that appears to be 433 00:27:43,410 --> 00:27:47,910 good, like an ice bucket challenge, or changing your 434 00:27:47,910 --> 00:27:52,560 Twitter icon, you are actually in many cases, self licensing 435 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:59,010 yourself for bad behavior down the road. And so when, when you 436 00:27:59,010 --> 00:28:01,650 look at and read some more highlighted bits from the 437 00:28:01,650 --> 00:28:04,590 document, when you think about the Ice Bucket Challenge, what 438 00:28:04,590 --> 00:28:09,120 bothered you and I was that and actually, it has all the 439 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:12,060 elements built in, that you either take the Ice Bucket 440 00:28:12,060 --> 00:28:19,650 Challenge, or donate $100. And so this is it has the immoral 441 00:28:19,650 --> 00:28:23,640 behavior built into it, you douse yourself with the ice 442 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,930 bucket. So you don't have to pay the $100. Which to us made no 443 00:28:27,930 --> 00:28:32,460 sense. But that is so this is the the self and the moral self 444 00:28:32,460 --> 00:28:37,890 licensing built into the system upfront. I just they've raised a 445 00:28:37,890 --> 00:28:40,260 lot of money. But I guarantee you a lot of people who took 446 00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:43,680 this challenge did not write any check. They don't I did the 447 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,300 bucket challenge, whatever. And it has that beautiful social 448 00:28:48,300 --> 00:28:52,770 aspect, which we used to gripe about. And it's no it doesn't 449 00:28:52,770 --> 00:28:57,060 happen anymore. The chain letter when email first came out, 450 00:28:57,090 --> 00:28:59,910 oh, yeah, that says all the elements of a chain letter I 451 00:28:59,910 --> 00:29:02,010 hate J letters, you have no idea 452 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,150 you will die. If you do not send this to 10 More people will die 453 00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:10,620 you will die. And that's the the I'm calling out calling out. I'm 454 00:29:10,620 --> 00:29:15,930 tagging three other people. Have you have 24 hours or you will? 455 00:29:17,310 --> 00:29:20,340 Yeah, no, that's exactly what the model is. This is modeled 456 00:29:20,340 --> 00:29:21,180 after that 457 00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:25,020 moral self licensing. This is from the moanin and Miller 2001 458 00:29:25,020 --> 00:29:27,510 study. This has been studied a lot. So I'm gladly 459 00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:30,210 having there's a couple of other coincidental things involved 460 00:29:30,210 --> 00:29:35,190 here. One. One is my idea but the other one is, it's noted 461 00:29:35,220 --> 00:29:39,270 noteworthy that in certain Eastern European cultures, 462 00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:45,840 jumping into a pool of ice is a way of cleansing your sins. And 463 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,870 the Russians do this right as they have it on the news 464 00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:52,380 constantly and it shows Yeah, idiots jumping into ice water. 465 00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:59,790 And but I'm also seeing this as kind of a satanic ritual as as 466 00:29:59,790 --> 00:30:03,990 in Have a baptism. Because make no mistake about it. This has 467 00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:06,150 all the elements of a baptism. Thank 468 00:30:06,150 --> 00:30:09,030 you very much. That is not that's not discussed in this but 469 00:30:09,030 --> 00:30:10,170 that I totally and 470 00:30:10,170 --> 00:30:14,400 I do and I do believe that this baptism thing and may be cursing 471 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:20,490 these people to having a spate of extremely bad luck. Yeah to 472 00:30:20,490 --> 00:30:23,400 the point where I would keep an eye on them I keep an eye on 473 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,700 Lindsay Lohan I keep an eye on everybody who made a big scene, 474 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,960 dumping the getting baptized with the ice water. And I think 475 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,310 it's already gotten close to that with this clip. I have the 476 00:30:35,310 --> 00:30:37,320 ice bucket challenge goes bad. 477 00:30:38,970 --> 00:30:39,840 I'm sorry I was 478 00:30:42,330 --> 00:30:46,050 in Kentucky for firefighters were when the bucket challenge 479 00:30:46,050 --> 00:30:49,260 went wrong. The firefighters were helping a college marching 480 00:30:49,260 --> 00:30:52,140 band with the challenge. After they sprayed the students with 481 00:30:52,140 --> 00:30:55,680 water the crew pulled the ladder back and the bucket got too 482 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,380 close to a power line. One of them is now in critical 483 00:30:58,380 --> 00:31:02,430 condition. And power was knocked out in the area. No Yeah. The 484 00:31:02,430 --> 00:31:02,730 ice 485 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,460 bucket itself. Yeah. That was struck. Yeah, the arct by the 486 00:31:08,460 --> 00:31:09,660 lightning bolts and 487 00:31:09,660 --> 00:31:14,970 art and art. Yeah, so the thing that blows me away and this is 488 00:31:14,970 --> 00:31:19,980 why this ice bucket challenge is potentially extremely bad for 489 00:31:20,490 --> 00:31:27,660 charitable work for just crying. Is that morals I'm gonna read 490 00:31:27,660 --> 00:31:29,730 some more because this is gonna blow you away. Moral self 491 00:31:29,730 --> 00:31:33,210 licensing the moaning and Miller study of 2001 occurs when past 492 00:31:33,210 --> 00:31:36,720 moral behavior makes people more likely to do potential immoral 493 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,560 things without worrying about feeling or appearing a moron a 494 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,330 lot of this study shows about it's about the appearance. The 495 00:31:45,330 --> 00:31:47,700 phenomenon of moral self licensing has been documented in 496 00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:50,550 various domains under different headings over the past decades 497 00:31:50,550 --> 00:31:56,460 with a lot of known information about this. The anxiety 498 00:31:56,460 --> 00:31:58,950 associated with political correctness in the contemporary 499 00:31:58,950 --> 00:32:02,250 United States this is from a study from 1998 provides 500 00:32:02,250 --> 00:32:05,550 numerous opportunities to observe moral self licensing. 501 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,390 Modern Americans generally wish to avoid feeling or appearing 502 00:32:09,390 --> 00:32:12,480 prejudiced yet all the same can be tempted to express views that 503 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,930 could be construed as prejudice. So this is where this political 504 00:32:15,930 --> 00:32:19,980 correctness comes from. And the internet and social media is 505 00:32:20,130 --> 00:32:24,120 extremely, extremely bad eating it. Eating it, research has 506 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,670 shown that individuals strategically seek out 507 00:32:26,670 --> 00:32:32,010 opportunities to act morally, if they know they might need a 508 00:32:32,010 --> 00:32:38,640 moral license for an upcoming dubious action. This is 509 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:44,250 fantastic. So the people who are possibly According to research, 510 00:32:44,430 --> 00:32:49,140 the people who take the ice bucket challenge may be doing so 511 00:32:49,230 --> 00:32:53,010 because they know they're going to they have an upcoming dubious 512 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:58,410 action, and they want to cleanse themselves up front. This is 513 00:32:58,530 --> 00:33:03,150 dynamite. When individuals have a chance to establish their 514 00:33:03,150 --> 00:33:06,780 kindness, generosity or compassion, they should worry 515 00:33:06,780 --> 00:33:10,110 less about engaging behaviors that might appear to violate pro 516 00:33:10,110 --> 00:33:13,470 social norms. For example, individuals whose past good 517 00:33:13,470 --> 00:33:16,770 deeds are fresh in their mind may feel less compelled to give 518 00:33:16,770 --> 00:33:19,740 to a charity than individuals without such comforting 519 00:33:19,740 --> 00:33:24,960 recollect already gave Exactly. Already gay already gave. And 520 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,620 other charity I said that, you know, autism when they must be 521 00:33:28,950 --> 00:33:33,240 incense because the people, the lot of people who may who 522 00:33:33,270 --> 00:33:36,120 probably would not have donated are not going to donate anymore, 523 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,540 and they probably didn't even donate the large majority of the 524 00:33:39,540 --> 00:33:43,590 people who took this challenge did not write a check. Even 525 00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:46,080 though of course, it's working. Of course, money is coming in. 526 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,290 Of course, that's just that's the the logic of numbers, you 527 00:33:49,290 --> 00:33:53,250 know, big numbers, of course, it's going to work. Okay. The 528 00:33:53,250 --> 00:33:56,160 9099 I'm not gonna read all the names of the of the studies. But 529 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,050 there's, these are all footnotes. And these are these 530 00:33:58,050 --> 00:34:02,250 are real Stanford type research. This is this is why we 531 00:34:02,250 --> 00:34:04,020 got that already go. 532 00:34:05,220 --> 00:34:07,320 The research show that individuals want the credit for 533 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:12,000 moral intentions without having to pay the cost. This suggests 534 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,050 if you let individuals express their exemplary intentions, they 535 00:34:16,050 --> 00:34:21,930 may feel licensed not to follow through on them. For example, 536 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,270 well, I want to stop you here for a sec, because I want to 537 00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:27,030 mention somebody which is also said this is actually a biblical 538 00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:30,480 thing. And there's one other thing that bothers me, which is 539 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,350 the concept and I think this is I don't have no scripture. So I 540 00:34:34,350 --> 00:34:36,990 can't give you a quote, but I have plenty of producers who do 541 00:34:36,990 --> 00:34:42,930 and will but there's the thing about about showing off your, 542 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,260 your contribution. In other words, you have Yeah, I'm a 543 00:34:46,290 --> 00:34:51,180 generous person I've given $5,000 I'm taking the Ice Bucket 544 00:34:51,180 --> 00:34:54,450 Challenge. I'm gonna double ice on myself and I'm gonna give 545 00:34:54,450 --> 00:34:59,370 money. This sort of thing is is considered bad form. If you want 546 00:34:59,370 --> 00:35:03,060 to be a janitor. Whereas person, if you want to be a generous 547 00:35:03,060 --> 00:35:05,940 person, you just You're, you're a generous person. You're not 548 00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:10,380 You're not supposed to be giving money for your own gret, self 549 00:35:10,380 --> 00:35:13,320 aggrandizement, you're not supposed to do that. It's it's 550 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,200 bad form. And that's all I see within the 551 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,950 reason why that is scripture. And indeed someone will send 552 00:35:19,950 --> 00:35:23,970 that to us is, I believe, a scripture is not just all made 553 00:35:23,970 --> 00:35:27,780 up stories about some dudes in the sky on a cloud, just like 554 00:35:29,820 --> 00:35:36,750 living a strict orthodox life, there are some real learnings 555 00:35:36,750 --> 00:35:40,890 behind them. And this makes sense if you a grand your eyes 556 00:35:40,890 --> 00:35:45,120 and say I'm doing or I'm going to, history has proven and it 557 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,450 has been known throughout history, that people then have 558 00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:51,510 this self moral licensing and they don't follow through. 559 00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:55,080 Here's an example. Asking people the probability they would 560 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,430 donate blood in an ideal world have led them to make much lower 561 00:35:59,430 --> 00:36:02,310 estimates of the probability they will donate blood in 562 00:36:02,310 --> 00:36:08,040 reality, the so the non real world is social media. And the 563 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,530 real world is the one where you know, you stick a pin in your in 564 00:36:10,530 --> 00:36:15,480 yourself into hearts. So when you say in the fantasy world, 565 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,030 I'm going to donate blood, here's my Twitter icon, I'm 566 00:36:18,030 --> 00:36:22,320 changing, the likelihood of you doing that is almost nil. 567 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,050 Because you've already done the bid, you've already given 568 00:36:25,050 --> 00:36:27,360 yourself the license not to do it, who the fuck is gonna know. 569 00:36:28,380 --> 00:36:33,210 And this is research. These imagined claims allow people to 570 00:36:33,210 --> 00:36:36,840 show they really want to be an upstanding citizen, even though 571 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,540 they probably will not follow through on their intentions. 572 00:36:39,540 --> 00:36:43,170 This is from a 1995 study. And then we moved into something I 573 00:36:43,170 --> 00:36:46,590 think the advertising guys and someone's got to be using this 574 00:36:46,620 --> 00:36:49,020 then I think we just haven't figured it out yet. I need to 575 00:36:49,710 --> 00:36:54,000 look at it closely now that this is on a radar, consumer choice. 576 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,750 So consumer choices is where the money is made. Consumer Choice 577 00:36:57,750 --> 00:37:00,390 represents a third domain in which moral self licensing is 578 00:37:00,420 --> 00:37:03,630 very evident. Everyday purchasing decisions are tinged 579 00:37:03,630 --> 00:37:06,900 with morality. At the extreme. Some utilitarian philosophers 580 00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:09,900 argue that it is immoral to spend disposable income on 581 00:37:09,930 --> 00:37:13,650 unnecessary things, because that money could go to people in need 582 00:37:13,650 --> 00:37:15,840 elsewhere this from 1972 studies, 583 00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:18,510 right? You know your food it could go to they've stopped 584 00:37:18,510 --> 00:37:22,350 their starving children Africa, is always starving children. 585 00:37:22,770 --> 00:37:26,130 According to the logic of self licensing. individuals whose 586 00:37:26,130 --> 00:37:30,360 prior choices establish them as ethical and reasonable spenders, 587 00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:34,230 should be more likely to indulge in frivolous purchases later on. 588 00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:38,550 This is how you are tricked into buying stuff. A 2006 survey a 589 00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:41,790 study explored this question directly by asking participants 590 00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:45,660 to make a hypothetical choice between purchasing a luxury good 591 00:37:45,810 --> 00:37:49,980 designer jeans, or a relative necessity necessity a vacuum 592 00:37:49,980 --> 00:37:53,880 cleaner, participants who had first been asked to imagine 593 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,870 doing something altruistic. So this is this is how the brain 594 00:37:57,870 --> 00:38:01,320 was manipulated. Participants who had first been asked to 595 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,680 imagine doing something altruistic chose the luxury item 596 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,380 more often than those who had not. So they hadn't done 597 00:38:07,380 --> 00:38:11,910 anything altruistic. They had been asked to think about it. In 598 00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:14,820 other words, participants who imagined doing good deeds were 599 00:38:14,820 --> 00:38:19,110 able to establish their morality and this license them to make 600 00:38:19,110 --> 00:38:21,060 frivolous choices with less guilt. 601 00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:31,920 I add something to that. This is this is an interesting idea. We 602 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,070 will actually start to spot this now. Because the one thing you 603 00:38:35,070 --> 00:38:38,010 have to you have to understand about people have to understand 604 00:38:38,010 --> 00:38:43,110 about the the marketing and advertising world they study 605 00:38:43,110 --> 00:38:46,440 this stuff for a reason. Yeah. I mean, it's not as though you go 606 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,570 into advertising and the next thing you know, you're writing 607 00:38:48,570 --> 00:38:50,790 ad copy that sells product. In fact, 608 00:38:50,820 --> 00:38:54,510 the most people think that it's like madmen, where we all go sit 609 00:38:54,510 --> 00:38:57,570 down and say, you know, this looks great. It will appeal to 610 00:38:57,570 --> 00:39:01,020 women. The real companies, the ones that really know what 611 00:39:01,020 --> 00:39:03,990 they're doing. They have they've they have the best scientists 612 00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:08,490 working for them, they really do. Here's an example of a 613 00:39:08,610 --> 00:39:13,380 another real world example, from 2007. And this was for a movie 614 00:39:13,380 --> 00:39:19,080 rental. It blows me away. optimistic expectations of 615 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,810 future consumer behavior can licensed people to make more 616 00:39:21,810 --> 00:39:26,820 self indulgent choices in the present. A con con and Dahar 617 00:39:26,850 --> 00:39:31,200 2007 study demonstrated as compensation for an unrelated 618 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,760 task, participants chose a free movie rental from a list 619 00:39:35,820 --> 00:39:41,370 containing both lowbrow films. Example would be Ocean's 11. And 620 00:39:41,490 --> 00:39:46,050 highbrow films, Schindler's List, illustrating that this 621 00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:49,860 choice had a moral tinge. A separate group had rated the 622 00:39:49,860 --> 00:39:53,160 high brown movies as more virtuous than the low brown 623 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,390 movies. Participants were more likely to pick a low brown 624 00:39:57,390 --> 00:40:01,620 movie, when they expect it to select a second movie from the 625 00:40:01,620 --> 00:40:05,070 same list one week later, compared to when they thought 626 00:40:05,070 --> 00:40:08,340 they were choosing one movie just in isolation. So this is 627 00:40:08,340 --> 00:40:12,420 how choice is manipulated by giving people some very obvious 628 00:40:12,420 --> 00:40:16,050 choices and a timeframe to make this choice. And you and it's 629 00:40:16,110 --> 00:40:19,920 kind of counterintuitive. And isn't everything we discover on 630 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,280 the show counterintuitive. You think about it to what popular 631 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:29,400 belief is. This is how you can be manipulated, without really 632 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,650 doing that much work. 633 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,670 Maybe people would just rather watch the ocean's 11. Well, 634 00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:41,940 here's some more entertaining. I also have to say Shindo 635 00:40:41,970 --> 00:40:43,890 Schindler's List is very entertaining. 636 00:40:44,850 --> 00:40:49,350 Social labeling may be one way to frame goal pursuit as 637 00:40:49,350 --> 00:40:53,910 commitment. Here's a study from 75 that tested different tactics 638 00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:57,870 to increase neatness among fifth graders, the group of children 639 00:40:57,870 --> 00:41:01,260 who were told repeatedly that they were tidy, so they were 640 00:41:01,260 --> 00:41:05,520 given the label, you are tidy children littered less than the 641 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,490 group that was told they should be neat and tidy. 642 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,340 This is this is this is mind boggling to me. 643 00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:20,670 I remember I'm reminded of the it was it's one of the 644 00:41:20,670 --> 00:41:22,740 commercials, unfortunately, remember the product. So it 645 00:41:22,740 --> 00:41:25,560 wasn't that effective, but a product for some sort of 646 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,170 chocolate or something like that. And they use the they use 647 00:41:28,170 --> 00:41:30,750 the mixed term. Guilty pleasure. 648 00:41:31,710 --> 00:41:32,760 Isn't it beautiful? 649 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,360 Yeah, that was that was stuff like stems from this sort of 650 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:36,660 thing 651 00:41:36,690 --> 00:41:39,120 I define and then I'll just do the final one. So I think 652 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,810 everyone gets the point. This is from 2009. I liked this one. 653 00:41:42,810 --> 00:41:45,570 This was a study, all of the study, the participants were 654 00:41:45,570 --> 00:41:48,930 Democrats, they were given a choice to express their support 655 00:41:48,930 --> 00:41:54,000 for either Obama. This would be like the licensing condition, or 656 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,930 carry the control condition. They were asked to state how 657 00:41:57,930 --> 00:42:01,200 they would divide a pot of money. Remember all Democrats a 658 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,200 pot of money between an organization serving a white 659 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,610 community and one serving a black community participants 660 00:42:08,610 --> 00:42:13,410 with higher scores on the modern racism scale. Now this is Mrs. 661 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,520 Just have to believe that it is a measure of prejudice, which 662 00:42:17,550 --> 00:42:20,520 was developed in 1981. If you've ever heard of this, but there's 663 00:42:20,610 --> 00:42:25,290 a racism scale. Participants with higher scores on the modern 664 00:42:25,290 --> 00:42:29,220 racism scale, whose commitment to a egalitarian goals was 665 00:42:29,220 --> 00:42:33,870 presumably weaker, show the licensing effect, they allocated 666 00:42:33,870 --> 00:42:37,560 more funds to the white organization after having 667 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:42,960 expressed support for Obama. In contrast, participants with 668 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,760 lower modern racism scale ratings, whose commitment to 669 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,660 egalitarian goals was presumably stronger, showed a marginal 670 00:42:51,660 --> 00:42:54,870 consistency effect. They allocated more fun to the black 671 00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:58,830 organization after having expressed support for Obama. So 672 00:42:58,830 --> 00:43:04,050 you see, this is very important, how these issues are portrayed, 673 00:43:04,860 --> 00:43:11,100 certainly on television and propagated and amplified through 674 00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:11,970 social media. 675 00:43:12,089 --> 00:43:14,759 Well, that's one of the things we pick up on our show. That's 676 00:43:14,759 --> 00:43:17,909 the reason we identify even though we don't know the studies 677 00:43:17,909 --> 00:43:23,699 we do now of course, but we've spot things like condemning guns 678 00:43:23,819 --> 00:43:28,139 as a precursor to get people to vote for the Democrats even 679 00:43:28,139 --> 00:43:30,779 though it's never mentioned. Right? No one ever says we you 680 00:43:30,779 --> 00:43:33,269 know, you should hate guns are going to kill your children vote 681 00:43:33,269 --> 00:43:39,989 Democrat, they never do that. In fact, the only out overt ad I've 682 00:43:39,989 --> 00:43:43,799 ever seen, I just haven't have a clip of it. That is outrageous. 683 00:43:43,799 --> 00:43:47,099 The over two, this is a clip from the National Rifle 684 00:43:47,099 --> 00:43:51,419 Association, actually. And it showed up on all things of all 685 00:43:51,419 --> 00:43:55,739 things that showed up on NFL networks. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, 686 00:43:55,739 --> 00:43:59,489 let me said that and it seems to be dated because this is really 687 00:43:59,489 --> 00:44:04,469 targeting Bloomberg. But it's a pro gun advertisement. 688 00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:09,360 Liberals call this flyover country. It's an insult. But 689 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,510 nobody insults your life. Like this guy. Michael Bloomberg, 690 00:44:12,660 --> 00:44:17,010 billionaire elitist, hypocrite. Bluebird tries to ban your snack 691 00:44:17,010 --> 00:44:21,450 foods, your soda and most of all your guns. Bloomberg said the 692 00:44:21,450 --> 00:44:25,170 largest county in Colorado is as far rural as you can get. I 693 00:44:25,170 --> 00:44:27,720 don't think there's roads there. That's what he thinks of your 694 00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:32,550 state to keep your politics in New York and keep your hands off 695 00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:36,570 our guns and our freedom. Yes, yes. 696 00:44:36,570 --> 00:44:39,210 Yes. Yes. He was called out in the ice bucket challenge. I 697 00:44:39,210 --> 00:44:44,790 might add by the by Gabby Giffords and her husband. They 698 00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:50,070 did not Bloomberg the the Yes. The the CEO of the NRA was 699 00:44:50,070 --> 00:44:53,070 called out not Bloomberg. The CEO of the NRA was called out 700 00:44:53,580 --> 00:44:55,170 that would make sense. This is this is now 701 00:44:55,170 --> 00:45:01,110 completely been politicized. And so as getting an extra dimension 702 00:45:01,110 --> 00:45:01,710 Representative 703 00:45:01,710 --> 00:45:04,800 John Dingell, a Democrat from Michigan, accuses some 704 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,700 Republicans of defunding ALS research while taking the Ice 705 00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:13,020 Bucket Challenge. He tweeted since 2011. House Republicans 706 00:45:13,020 --> 00:45:16,560 have cut national institutes of health funding by billions. And 707 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,410 you thought dumping ice water on your head was cold. 708 00:45:19,710 --> 00:45:25,200 So this has been politicized and interesting to note that this 709 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,220 has been outlawed in the government. Bandcamp Gomery of 710 00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:33,540 Harford spoke about this and the ambassador's who are not allowed 711 00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:37,350 to participate in this? Of course, obviously fantastic 712 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,640 cause one 713 00:45:38,850 --> 00:45:44,550 of the beats one can I guess what it is? Is it is it correct 714 00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:49,560 that the State Department center center cable to its ambassadors 715 00:45:49,860 --> 00:45:52,980 to ban them from participating 716 00:45:53,069 --> 00:45:55,679 that it wasn't it's not limited? It's not just about ambassadors. 717 00:45:55,679 --> 00:45:59,789 Federal government ethics rules prevent us from using our public 718 00:45:59,789 --> 00:46:02,339 offices, such as in back to high public offices, such as 719 00:46:02,339 --> 00:46:05,999 ambassadors for private gain, no matter how worthy the cause is, 720 00:46:05,999 --> 00:46:10,109 and this is of course, a worthy cause. That, for that reason, 721 00:46:10,109 --> 00:46:12,179 high ranking State Department officials are unfortunately 722 00:46:12,179 --> 00:46:12,539 unable 723 00:46:12,990 --> 00:46:15,540 to hold on a second she just violated the rule herself by 724 00:46:15,540 --> 00:46:16,800 saying it's a worthy cause. 725 00:46:17,339 --> 00:46:21,059 Well, no, not entirely. The reason why is the rule is in 726 00:46:21,059 --> 00:46:24,329 place, no matter how wordy the cause, you are not allowed to 727 00:46:24,329 --> 00:46:29,459 use your office to raise money like Eleanor Holmes, whatever 728 00:46:29,459 --> 00:46:32,609 her name is, you know, people who call up. I was gonna say 729 00:46:32,609 --> 00:46:37,079 Eleanor Holmes, Rigby, I don't know Norton, not in the Ice 730 00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:42,119 Bucket Challenge. Okay, sorry about the one channel there. 731 00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:48,299 It's the C span has been a little bad. Research suggests. 732 00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:51,719 I'm almost at the end here, but it's just so much boggling my 733 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,529 mind. Research suggests that's licensing the self licensing is 734 00:46:55,919 --> 00:46:59,249 not merely self a self presentational strategy. 735 00:46:59,279 --> 00:47:04,019 Instead, it seems to reassure the self. And these are all this 736 00:47:04,019 --> 00:47:06,479 is an important word self selfies. This is the stuff we're 737 00:47:06,479 --> 00:47:10,469 dealing with right now. It seems to reassure the self that 738 00:47:10,469 --> 00:47:14,759 subsequent behavior is legitimate. 2001 study showed 739 00:47:14,759 --> 00:47:18,629 that licensing occurred even when the audience who observed 740 00:47:18,629 --> 00:47:22,469 the morally dubious behavior knew nothing of the prior 741 00:47:22,469 --> 00:47:27,419 licensing behavior, suggesting that self image played a role in 742 00:47:27,419 --> 00:47:30,119 the phenomenon individuals who imagined doing something 743 00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:33,929 altruistic rated themselves higher on items such as I am 744 00:47:33,929 --> 00:47:37,109 compassionate, I am helpful and that this change in self 745 00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:40,589 perception mediated whether participants then felt licensed 746 00:47:40,589 --> 00:47:45,359 to prefer a frivolous product that you are being you are 747 00:47:45,359 --> 00:47:49,079 definitely being used in this way. And we are going to be 748 00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:55,289 paying attention to it now. And I the I find the Ice Bucket 749 00:47:55,289 --> 00:48:01,139 Challenge and again, just rehashing having the challenge 750 00:48:01,199 --> 00:48:09,809 include the immoral behavior of not donating a few perform the 751 00:48:09,989 --> 00:48:15,959 self Licensing Act of dumping ice over your head is it's a 752 00:48:15,959 --> 00:48:21,509 short circuit it is it is everything right in one go in 753 00:48:21,509 --> 00:48:24,899 one second, and you get to share it with your friends and you get 754 00:48:24,899 --> 00:48:30,269 to call them out with the chain of metal that chain chain chain 755 00:48:30,269 --> 00:48:32,879 letters were came in the mail. I remember getting them I remember 756 00:48:32,879 --> 00:48:38,639 my first one when I was nine. My mom's Yes, my mom said oh, okay, 757 00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:41,159 well get your 10 stamps. You know, you don't want to die. 758 00:48:42,030 --> 00:48:43,170 Oh, geez. 759 00:48:44,250 --> 00:48:47,190 Yes, I have mother issues too. I'm working on the Wow, 760 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,820 emotional blackmail. I know we all have crap going on. Okay, 761 00:48:50,820 --> 00:48:52,080 I'm in therapy. I'm working on it when 762 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,720 I get one of those I still don't get him that much. Maybe once 763 00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:59,160 every couple of years now. Besides bouncing everybody who 764 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,010 would send me one of these things I use the Explorer eight 765 00:49:02,010 --> 00:49:08,100 the sender Oh yeah. And and then I use it blacklist them so they 766 00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:10,500 never can get but but these people who send these things 767 00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:13,830 around as always, and there's some of us that are creative, 768 00:49:13,830 --> 00:49:16,650 they're very creative about the you know, the kids are gonna die 769 00:49:16,650 --> 00:49:20,130 and he's he's prayers and you have to read this little ditty 770 00:49:20,130 --> 00:49:22,620 and he read it out loud and I mean there's a million 771 00:49:22,620 --> 00:49:25,830 possibilities and and they're always the same you know and it 772 00:49:25,830 --> 00:49:28,320 does they always as implication you've got to do this you got to 773 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,050 send it to five more people it's very important and they don't 774 00:49:31,050 --> 00:49:33,120 even have to be necessary about you're gonna die some of them 775 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,620 are political. You know Obama is actually you know, a reptilian 776 00:49:37,620 --> 00:49:40,740 and here's all the here's all the data and send this to five 777 00:49:40,740 --> 00:49:44,370 of your friends you know that so everyone knows that kind of 778 00:49:44,370 --> 00:49:47,460 thing. It's just I find it I find it offensive that I even 779 00:49:47,460 --> 00:49:50,550 get one when somebody sends me one. I am personally offended. 780 00:49:51,420 --> 00:49:54,840 In the conclusion of this Compendium there is something 781 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,350 that I think pertains certainly to me and perhaps to to you and 782 00:49:58,350 --> 00:50:02,250 to Austin, this am this And I'll say that again, 783 00:50:02,939 --> 00:50:05,459 and others and many others. 784 00:50:06,690 --> 00:50:09,480 Although much of the research highlighted in this Compendium 785 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,110 highlights the dark side of moral self licensing, we wish to 786 00:50:13,110 --> 00:50:17,070 suggest that moral self licensing may sometimes have 787 00:50:17,070 --> 00:50:21,690 more desirable consequences. As discussed in the section on 788 00:50:21,690 --> 00:50:25,860 political correctness, moral self Licensing can alleviate 789 00:50:25,860 --> 00:50:31,860 anxiety about saying something offensive. Thus, self Licensing 790 00:50:31,860 --> 00:50:36,000 can be a valuable strategy to facilitate open conversations 791 00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:41,010 about sensitive topics. This is I think, this is what I do. 792 00:50:41,490 --> 00:50:43,110 When I kiss this what 793 00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:47,940 I call out things by the name and it was like we're we're 794 00:50:47,940 --> 00:50:52,470 Tourette's you're What are you black? You're Jew? You're 795 00:50:52,470 --> 00:50:54,330 whatever I say it like it is. 796 00:50:54,750 --> 00:50:57,930 It? What would What have you done it previously to give 797 00:50:57,930 --> 00:50:59,160 yourself this license? 798 00:50:59,820 --> 00:51:03,180 No, I do it all the time. The way I just talked to five, but I 799 00:51:03,180 --> 00:51:05,490 got it. I got it. You always give everyone you see on the 800 00:51:05,490 --> 00:51:09,750 street? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, always give them five bucks. 801 00:51:10,020 --> 00:51:13,170 No, no, no, you have to reverse it, John, you have to reverse 802 00:51:13,170 --> 00:51:18,120 it, instead of me doing something good. So I can so I 803 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,960 can feel good about myself doing I do bad things, to give myself 804 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,040 license to talk openly without guilt about things. So I call 805 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,070 people now. Horrible. 806 00:51:30,029 --> 00:51:32,429 You're violating your own thesis that you just outlined. 807 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,520 I'm telling you what they just said it can't you can look at it 808 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:36,780 in the reverse. 809 00:51:37,140 --> 00:51:40,050 No, but you can also look at it and they said the positive but I 810 00:51:40,050 --> 00:51:43,230 think if you're gonna go with positive stuff, you have to have 811 00:51:43,230 --> 00:51:47,400 the you still have to have the license. Now. Here's the joke. 812 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,970 You're not you. You're kidding. You're a do gooder. You don't do 813 00:51:50,970 --> 00:51:55,470 bad things you'd like to imagine that you do? Yes. Yes. Yes. This 814 00:51:55,470 --> 00:51:58,680 is you know, go around eating people up down the street. You 815 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,080 don't kick old ladies. And you don't kick him in the knee? No, 816 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:01,230 you 817 00:52:01,230 --> 00:52:05,340 know why? Because I do all that verbally in the imaginary world 818 00:52:05,340 --> 00:52:08,610 of this show. Therefore, I'm a really nice guy outside of 819 00:52:08,610 --> 00:52:11,670 the show. What do you do negative on this show? Oh, I 820 00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:15,030 don't know. I call people a holes. Horrible people. baby 821 00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:17,970 killers, sir. All realistic assertion. 822 00:52:21,150 --> 00:52:23,520 Correct. But not even accurate. 823 00:52:25,110 --> 00:52:27,660 All right, I have to work on myself and figure this one out. 824 00:52:27,660 --> 00:52:31,980 But a little self license is a fact. Yeah, it's 825 00:52:31,980 --> 00:52:35,850 a good one. So that's, that's the winner for today's show. No 826 00:52:35,850 --> 00:52:37,140 clips, but it's done. 827 00:52:37,140 --> 00:52:41,490 Let's go home. Moral self licensing. It is just beautiful. 828 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,830 It is truly truly Well, we'll 829 00:52:43,830 --> 00:52:46,410 see this won't be the first bull crap thing we have. I mean, 830 00:52:46,410 --> 00:52:49,500 we've seen it with the icons, the Twitter icons, which seemed 831 00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:52,080 a goal you more than anyone. And the 832 00:52:52,170 --> 00:52:55,950 only way it only got only galls me, because I know and we now 833 00:52:55,950 --> 00:52:56,160 have, 834 00:52:56,220 --> 00:52:59,220 you know, and I know we all know that you put the change the icon 835 00:52:59,220 --> 00:53:02,010 you think you've done something? Yeah. This is the same as all 836 00:53:02,010 --> 00:53:07,680 the outrage over net neutrality. Yeah, I did my part. What part 837 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,900 did you do, I said is bad. 838 00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:13,830 So for success, if you want to have success, you need to have 839 00:53:13,830 --> 00:53:17,610 someone do something trivial instead of doing something 840 00:53:17,610 --> 00:53:21,990 meaningful and mention that in the same challenge and have them 841 00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:26,520 send it on like a like a chain letter. So we can use this for 842 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:31,380 any we can say Haiti. Poor and so Haiti is suffering from 843 00:53:31,380 --> 00:53:36,780 cholera. pour a bucket of diarrhea over your head or send 844 00:53:36,780 --> 00:53:39,690 $1,000 to Haiti and tell everyone else to do this now and 845 00:53:39,690 --> 00:53:42,060 call them out and or it's going to be they're going to die. 846 00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:45,750 I have a suggestion. Okay. I think anyone that's involved in 847 00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:47,970 the Ice Bucket Challenge, even though I think it's long since 848 00:53:47,970 --> 00:53:51,270 jumped to shark, but I would suggest if you get to give 849 00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:55,710 somebody that dump ice water, find a way to pee in the bucket 850 00:53:55,710 --> 00:53:56,190 a little bit. 851 00:53:56,610 --> 00:54:00,960 Okay, areas everywhere, they're the fine button it down to third 852 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,890 grade. Great. Thank you for that. Thank you for your courage 853 00:54:04,890 --> 00:54:09,150 John C. Dvorak. And I will say in the morning to you my friend 854 00:54:09,210 --> 00:54:11,130 and fellow Professor John 855 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,650 in the morning, you Adam curry in the morning and all ships at 856 00:54:16,650 --> 00:54:19,260 sea boots on the ground feed near subs in the water, and all 857 00:54:19,260 --> 00:54:20,700 the days and nights out there. 858 00:54:20,730 --> 00:54:22,710 Do you eat in the mornings everyone in the chat room who 859 00:54:22,710 --> 00:54:24,450 has been participating? It's very nice to see them 860 00:54:24,450 --> 00:54:26,910 participate in this particular conversation. They are 861 00:54:26,910 --> 00:54:30,060 recognizing themselves I love seeing that in the morning to 862 00:54:30,060 --> 00:54:35,400 our artists in the morning to our artists who are always 863 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,500 helping with the show great art really, really really great art 864 00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:42,930 we had on six for three from 865 00:54:43,710 --> 00:54:48,270 Norwich they had to pick from Yeah, this was this was the lot 866 00:54:48,270 --> 00:54:50,160 of potential winners and this was the 867 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,510 the Fab Four dressed up as it was ISIS Of course this because 868 00:54:54,510 --> 00:54:59,460 the three of these horrible ISIS beheaders are now known as The 869 00:54:59,460 --> 00:55:03,660 Beatles. which I will say is funny by itself because they're 870 00:55:03,660 --> 00:55:08,400 from London and there is not a single London or in the London 871 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,440 universe universe or elsewhere who will think or agree with you 872 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,560 that the Beatles are from London. The Beatles were from 873 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,770 Liverpool and this is they're very specific in London about 874 00:55:19,770 --> 00:55:22,530 they make a big deal, but I would never say they're from 875 00:55:22,530 --> 00:55:27,690 London. No, no, that's a fact. No agenda art. generator.com is 876 00:55:27,690 --> 00:55:30,360 where you can see all of and Alexander score twice in a row. 877 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,380 I'm appointed out of the blue. Yeah, just on a roll. Well, 878 00:55:34,380 --> 00:55:38,460 let's see. Don't be discouraged or be encouraged to a lot of 879 00:55:38,460 --> 00:55:39,060 these guys. They 880 00:55:39,060 --> 00:55:43,560 get hot. They get hot in there. And Nick Durant had a string of 881 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:44,370 about five and 882 00:55:45,210 --> 00:55:47,340 he had many more he had strings of five and then 883 00:55:47,940 --> 00:55:51,390 one after the other after their no with no break. And then 884 00:55:51,390 --> 00:55:57,150 Martin JJ was string and so he had to retire semi retired. Dark 885 00:55:57,150 --> 00:56:00,120 says, I've added I've just winning all with every week, 886 00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:01,860 I'll let the other losers. 887 00:56:06,330 --> 00:56:10,710 So be encouraged that your mojo comes back. But we also we 888 00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:15,000 really just choose the best art and and usually I'll say, oh, 889 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,340 man, he's already three in a row. And we got them. Yeah, but 890 00:56:17,340 --> 00:56:21,030 it's the best. We are fair, we have to be fair about these 891 00:56:21,030 --> 00:56:22,020 things. And we 892 00:56:22,020 --> 00:56:24,450 have to be fair about thanking our producers and executive 893 00:56:24,450 --> 00:56:28,800 producers, beginning with Ed Farrell, who's another I think 894 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,280 this is just the third in a row. I think we missed the last show. 895 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,410 But this is another instance right? 896 00:56:34,740 --> 00:56:36,780 It's a sack of sevens into the night. 897 00:56:36,870 --> 00:56:43,050 Yes Akka sevens is tonight $1,777.77 He says I can finally 898 00:56:43,050 --> 00:56:46,080 call myself a knight I love what you guys do please keep up the 899 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,410 good work can I get a job some job karma because I need a new 900 00:56:49,410 --> 00:56:50,010 job. 901 00:56:50,069 --> 00:56:53,579 Wait a minute. Does he is he out of work because you have a job 902 00:56:53,579 --> 00:56:54,839 who just wants a new job? Well 903 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,840 when you say new job that Mitt assumes you have a job okay. 904 00:56:58,590 --> 00:57:00,000 Anybody who doesn't like his job 905 00:57:00,029 --> 00:57:02,549 well Edie Thank you very much we of course will be very delighted 906 00:57:02,549 --> 00:57:07,319 to bring you into the table of the Knights and Dames later in 907 00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:10,319 in the program and appreciate you being a sack of sevens night 908 00:57:10,319 --> 00:57:16,229 ISACA sevens night and yes of course jobs 909 00:57:16,410 --> 00:57:20,610 jobs, jobs and jobs or jobs. 910 00:57:22,380 --> 00:57:25,620 This stuff works by the way this is not again we have not come up 911 00:57:25,620 --> 00:57:28,410 with this this is producers who have determined this this is 912 00:57:28,410 --> 00:57:33,060 part of our genius we don't have you know a gene but it's what is 913 00:57:33,060 --> 00:57:36,090 part of our genius is that we entered the genius comes 914 00:57:36,090 --> 00:57:39,570 naturally because we're lazy we're lazy we are 915 00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:44,550 procrastinators. We don't like working on stuff that doesn't 916 00:57:44,550 --> 00:57:49,380 interest us. And you and I've had producers and when producers 917 00:57:49,380 --> 00:57:53,460 are in charge of the show, they do what the producer wants. And 918 00:57:53,460 --> 00:58:00,240 this is how great shows fail such as that. What was the show 919 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:05,040 that I watched the the musical dancing show about Broadway with 920 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,100 the girl from God willing me willing. 921 00:58:08,700 --> 00:58:12,900 So fat if so, so fabulous that you forgot the name? 922 00:58:13,380 --> 00:58:15,570 Well they ruined it or show time or 923 00:58:15,570 --> 00:58:21,600 show girls are way ahead of the Broadway and smash Smash. Okay, 924 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,290 your answer, Bobo? No. Well, that is a good story because the 925 00:58:25,290 --> 00:58:30,090 story behind that that show, which was a producer, a single 926 00:58:30,090 --> 00:58:34,080 minded woman who had a vision for the show. And her vision was 927 00:58:34,140 --> 00:58:36,840 actually meta meta meta was 928 00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:39,360 a meta meta meta but no, 929 00:58:39,390 --> 00:58:43,590 this this is a meta because the story was about a woman and of 930 00:58:43,590 --> 00:58:46,980 course, its producers about writing story, but 931 00:58:47,069 --> 00:58:50,189 the point was is that she had this vision for the show and it 932 00:58:50,189 --> 00:58:55,259 was attracting a very loyal audience of weirdos I would say 933 00:58:55,289 --> 00:58:59,459 it's okay, I like my singing and dancing. And who likes singing 934 00:58:59,459 --> 00:59:02,309 dancing because it was kind of based on let's can we beat Glee 935 00:59:02,309 --> 00:59:05,069 at its own game, right? Which I don't want I don't like Glee at 936 00:59:05,069 --> 00:59:08,159 all. Well, it's a different style and this woman had a 937 00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:12,299 certain and I thought it was getting traction. Annoyingly so 938 00:59:12,299 --> 00:59:16,799 because I never liked to show I thought it was too navel gazing 939 00:59:16,799 --> 00:59:22,589 but that's me and and but but some suits in the network and I 940 00:59:22,589 --> 00:59:24,449 believe it must have been NBC because they're the biggest 941 00:59:24,449 --> 00:59:28,529 screw ups are set well I don't know you know we could probably 942 00:59:28,529 --> 00:59:31,199 read our demos not right we got to move this and that and we got 943 00:59:31,199 --> 00:59:33,569 to change this and that I don't like the way this going. They 944 00:59:33,569 --> 00:59:37,769 come and start fooling with the show she's gets into a battle 945 00:59:37,769 --> 00:59:41,519 royale I guess with the with the suits. And I guess was either 946 00:59:41,519 --> 00:59:44,489 fired or walked. And they brought in some new good guys 947 00:59:44,489 --> 00:59:47,489 who changed the structure of the show completely made it more 948 00:59:47,639 --> 00:59:50,339 entertaining to people like myself, but I'm still not 949 00:59:50,339 --> 00:59:53,909 watching it so that doesn't do them any good. And boom done. 950 00:59:54,299 --> 00:59:55,769 Over busted. 951 00:59:56,010 --> 01:00:01,290 Well, the one I identified is as the core audience is The format 952 01:00:01,290 --> 01:00:06,090 of the show was blah blah blah blah singing and dancing 953 01:00:06,450 --> 01:00:09,960 transition from rehearsal into the real thing and back again 954 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,110 and blah blah blah blah I don't care about the storyline or like 955 01:00:13,110 --> 01:00:13,980 Angelica Houston 956 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,980 I think that was her idea and I'm i and they but they stopped 957 01:00:16,980 --> 01:00:17,880 doing they had entire 958 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,800 episodes with no singing and dancing 959 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:25,080 plot what is the who wants a plot Show Notes singing and 960 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:29,400 dancing now on it is the opinion but looking back on this and 961 01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,310 listening to you and it was seeing the success of shows like 962 01:00:32,310 --> 01:00:37,230 Glee that and then if you take a look at So You Think You Can 963 01:00:37,230 --> 01:00:39,660 Dance or America's Got Talent or all these shows which are 964 01:00:39,660 --> 01:00:42,150 extremely popular some of them they run two or three times a 965 01:00:42,150 --> 01:00:46,590 week, which have mostly singing and dancing yes at America wants 966 01:00:46,590 --> 01:00:48,120 singing and dancing this 967 01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:50,460 at the chat room just pointed out something very important. 968 01:00:50,460 --> 01:00:53,010 That doesn't happen often but here it is. Sorry. little snide 969 01:00:53,010 --> 01:00:58,290 remark, Bollywood, Bollywood plot always the same who gives a 970 01:00:58,290 --> 01:01:02,190 crap singing and dancing with beautiful people? That's it. 971 01:01:04,230 --> 01:01:07,620 That's it so just singing and dancing yet and Broadway shows 972 01:01:07,620 --> 01:01:10,530 are the big Broadway musicals are mostly singing and dancing, 973 01:01:10,530 --> 01:01:11,550 and they're very effective. 974 01:01:11,580 --> 01:01:14,580 Orange is a new blank. They almost screwed it up. They 975 01:01:14,580 --> 01:01:17,700 almost screwed up. Orange is the new blank. What was it that 976 01:01:17,700 --> 01:01:21,150 attracted all audiences to Orange is the New Black. I have 977 01:01:21,150 --> 01:01:24,930 no idea realistic lesbian sex. This is simple. Every three 978 01:01:24,930 --> 01:01:28,140 episodes you have to have some kind of realistic lesbian sex. 979 01:01:28,230 --> 01:01:32,070 They were the first eight episodes of season two. I didn't 980 01:01:32,070 --> 01:01:35,490 watch any more until 910 1112 Then they picked it up a good 981 01:01:35,490 --> 01:01:37,230 again. It's so easy. 982 01:01:38,310 --> 01:01:40,770 Well, this again is the what we were talking about earlier in 983 01:01:40,770 --> 01:01:44,130 the show, which is the your branding is really comes from 984 01:01:44,130 --> 01:01:47,010 the other side of the equation. You have to be listening 985 01:01:47,010 --> 01:01:49,710 customers, the ones who are buying into it, that would be 986 01:01:49,710 --> 01:01:54,120 you in the case of that yes, smash shows you would be a 987 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:58,590 better advisor, you running through our consulting company. 988 01:02:00,150 --> 01:02:01,440 It's an NBC 989 01:02:01,470 --> 01:02:05,370 You mean the hugely successful curry Devorah consulting 990 01:02:05,370 --> 01:02:09,870 organization? Yes, everybody knows we actually put out one 991 01:02:09,900 --> 01:02:12,120 proposal and they didn't even answer us. 992 01:02:13,710 --> 01:02:15,990 Well, that's because they probably were stunned. 993 01:02:17,910 --> 01:02:24,330 Reasonable ideas that's returned to the show 646 rundown we're 994 01:02:24,330 --> 01:02:29,580 gonna die poor All right. Even marshy, marshy or marshy of 995 01:02:29,580 --> 01:02:33,300 Sunnyvale, California right down the road here. 666 So he came in 996 01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:35,760 with a six six it sounds like I'm maybe the first with the 997 01:02:36,090 --> 01:02:38,910 mark of the beast. The big beast actually. When we first 998 01:02:38,910 --> 01:02:41,460 introduced it, we had a couple so I think we had three we did 999 01:02:41,460 --> 01:02:44,250 Yeah, it's nice. I would I would like to mention although it goes 1000 01:02:44,250 --> 01:02:48,060 without without saying at this point that coverage and analysis 1001 01:02:48,060 --> 01:02:51,390 you both provide is invaluable. John's breakdown of Ebola and 1002 01:02:51,390 --> 01:02:54,240 Adams continuing analysis of the Israeli Moon 1003 01:02:56,070 --> 01:02:57,540 Why do you mock me? 1004 01:02:58,230 --> 01:03:05,820 are spot on maybe note something he's in Sunnyvale. Thanks for 1005 01:03:05,820 --> 01:03:08,520 being one of the bastions of honesty and reporting I'd like 1006 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,340 you to take this opportunity to call out a few douchebags ready. 1007 01:03:11,370 --> 01:03:12,780 Oh, okay. 1008 01:03:12,780 --> 01:03:19,020 Yes, I am prepared. Pete Eric, 1009 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:20,430 what's the second one? 1010 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:31,170 Eric? Jack douchebag Okay, and the rest of the unnamed boners 1011 01:03:31,350 --> 01:03:34,050 support the best podcast in the universe you will obey if I 1012 01:03:34,050 --> 01:03:38,340 could make a request for some jingles I'd like a an adult 1013 01:03:38,340 --> 01:03:43,200 Putin to to the head amazing and a pigs in human clothing what is 1014 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,770 hola What is it an adult Putin? Oh, just just a regular regular 1015 01:03:46,770 --> 01:03:47,340 Putin 1016 01:03:47,340 --> 01:03:50,370 that was not the kid a regular Putin 1017 01:03:50,490 --> 01:03:54,060 and an amazing and pigs and human clothing which is one of 1018 01:03:54,060 --> 01:03:54,630 my favorites. I 1019 01:03:54,630 --> 01:03:57,150 have to stand and Panda comm obviously 1020 01:03:57,150 --> 01:04:06,870 Okay, yeah, here we go. That is freedom 1021 01:04:20,790 --> 01:04:26,220 you've got karma. Nice. 1022 01:04:26,490 --> 01:04:31,080 Sir Don Tommaso de Toronto came in with $646 which makes him the 1023 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,580 member of the 646 Club. We 1024 01:04:32,580 --> 01:04:35,580 we haven't had that in a long time. Great. Thank you. 1025 01:04:35,730 --> 01:04:38,910 kettleby. It's gonna be it's rare. Yeah. kettleby, Ontario, 1026 01:04:38,910 --> 01:04:42,360 and he just says a short note just from dawn to Moscow to 1027 01:04:42,570 --> 01:04:47,400 Toronto. Here's my Pay Pal in drome for episode 646. Hey, 1028 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:52,380 boners give a little okay. He says that's a shout out and you 1029 01:04:52,380 --> 01:04:55,710 would like a little karma for the rest of us. Absolutely. 1030 01:04:56,070 --> 01:04:57,780 You've got karma. 1031 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,750 Continuing with this a nice group. And this came in as a 1032 01:05:03,750 --> 01:05:07,680 check from French Francis Sheehy in Worcester, Massachusetts 1033 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:13,260 $500. And it just came in as a straight up check in a piece of 1034 01:05:13,260 --> 01:05:16,410 blank with a piece of blank paper in the mail. No, no, no 1035 01:05:16,410 --> 01:05:20,370 note, and this is what we're talking about with the, you 1036 01:05:20,370 --> 01:05:27,180 know, very casual and meaningful donation. 1037 01:05:27,330 --> 01:05:30,240 I got a check for $1,000 in the mail yesterday. 1038 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,140 Okay. And it was just for your voice. No, 1039 01:05:34,170 --> 01:05:38,250 no, no. It was from a it wasn't an official looking envelope. 1040 01:05:38,340 --> 01:05:43,230 And it was, yeah, it. Didn't we have this whole thing with us 1041 01:05:43,230 --> 01:05:45,900 all the time. But I haven't ever seen this particular one. Isn't 1042 01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:48,960 there some rule against tricking consumers? Yes, there's actually 1043 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,260 a law against what you did where you're about to describe, I got 1044 01:05:52,260 --> 01:05:56,340 them when I was taking my seminars and direct marketing. 1045 01:05:56,820 --> 01:05:59,700 They brought this up and you can't do this, you can't do 1046 01:05:59,700 --> 01:06:02,010 anything. It makes it look like there's a check inside. 1047 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,040 Well, it's not only it is a real check, and it says this is a 1048 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,100 real check. And that had two flyers, I'm sorry, I left it in 1049 01:06:08,100 --> 01:06:11,460 the in the great room, so I can't get it to read it 1050 01:06:11,460 --> 01:06:16,320 verbatim. But I was I did set it aside to discuss it had one note 1051 01:06:16,350 --> 01:06:19,320 in English one in Spanish, of course, because we're really 1052 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:23,190 about tricking our Mexican friends here. And on the back, 1053 01:06:23,190 --> 01:06:26,310 it says endorse here and you can catch this as a real check. But 1054 01:06:26,310 --> 01:06:30,540 it does by signing this, if you agree to the terms of repayment, 1055 01:06:31,050 --> 01:06:35,220 and the repayment is and it even says it right there. You will be 1056 01:06:35,220 --> 01:06:37,560 paying for this $1,000 check which you may use for you can 1057 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:43,890 cash it get a $1,000 you will be repaying $1,458 over the course 1058 01:06:43,890 --> 01:06:47,310 of the payments. So it's kind of like a a credit card only it's 1059 01:06:47,310 --> 01:06:50,160 in the form of a cash check, which is very appealing if 1060 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,520 someone would need 1000 bucks right away. Yeah. And what's 1061 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:58,200 interesting as I delved into it, there is a handling fee or they 1062 01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,110 call it something I can't remember specifically, even if 1063 01:07:01,110 --> 01:07:05,760 you pay off the $1,000 Immediately, the $300 of the 1064 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:11,190 handling fee is due Regardless, this is an unbelievable scam for 1065 01:07:11,190 --> 01:07:16,890 people who see a check and need $1,000 And I was appalled. I was 1066 01:07:16,890 --> 01:07:19,920 just appalled This is being sent out and that it's legal. 1067 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:24,030 It's probably not legal. Well, somebody has to you know the 1068 01:07:24,030 --> 01:07:26,820 problem is there's so many of these scams and so much 1069 01:07:26,820 --> 01:07:30,720 illegality going on through the mail which is makes it very easy 1070 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,900 to prosecute. The prosecutors aren't doing anything about this 1071 01:07:33,900 --> 01:07:37,890 stuff. It's just it's I don't know what's going on. Get out. 1072 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:41,220 They don't care. That this was a Pocahontas deal. This is 1073 01:07:41,220 --> 01:07:42,630 Elizabeth Warren who 1074 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:47,640 Oh yeah, no. All over this and she has done nothing. But ladies 1075 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,990 and gentlemen, this contest is a woman making his way to the 1076 01:07:51,990 --> 01:07:57,450 brain. Wave 333 pounds. Here's what Ron do 1077 01:08:08,610 --> 01:08:10,380 David Foley came in I see 1078 01:08:10,410 --> 01:08:14,100 these are these are loyal subjects of the Grand Duke who 1079 01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:14,340 sent 1080 01:08:14,970 --> 01:08:21,690 the Grand Duke of SC three to $33.33 seems to be his favorite 1081 01:08:21,690 --> 01:08:22,470 thing of late 1082 01:08:22,500 --> 01:08:25,500 he's up there in the in the in the earthquake zone isn't he's 1083 01:08:25,500 --> 01:08:25,590 in 1084 01:08:25,590 --> 01:08:29,430 Los Gatos, which is down south. Oh, okay. south of San Jose. 1085 01:08:29,430 --> 01:08:29,850 Actually. 1086 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:30,900 He's okay. He's fine. 1087 01:08:31,649 --> 01:08:34,379 You know, that's, that's there's word when that goes off down 1088 01:08:34,379 --> 01:08:37,289 there. It's nasty. Right in the morning, John and Adam, thank 1089 01:08:37,289 --> 01:08:39,599 you for providing analysis and insight that can be found 1090 01:08:39,629 --> 01:08:43,799 nowhere else. Please send a dose of that wonderful no agenda 1091 01:08:43,799 --> 01:08:47,759 karma. I'd love to do that. Karma. 1092 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,040 No, where else? 1093 01:08:53,250 --> 01:08:55,110 What is that devices using? 1094 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,940 Damn Astrid, the vibe counters of Tokyo is also in with 1095 01:08:59,970 --> 01:09:02,340 $333.33. What 1096 01:09:02,340 --> 01:09:04,710 is the device you use for that? It's just wonderful. Is that an 1097 01:09:04,710 --> 01:09:06,180 analog or digital device? This 1098 01:09:06,179 --> 01:09:08,759 thing right here that I'm talking about right now? Yeah, 1099 01:09:08,789 --> 01:09:15,419 hello, people. This is a green spot Irish whiskey tube that the 1100 01:09:15,419 --> 01:09:19,529 bottle of whiskey was in. And if you kind of caulk it to the side 1101 01:09:19,529 --> 01:09:22,529 of your mouth and then talk into it, it sounds like I'm in an 1102 01:09:22,709 --> 01:09:23,879 echo chamber. 1103 01:09:23,910 --> 01:09:27,150 It has a it has a one when you do it really quietly and you 1104 01:09:27,150 --> 01:09:31,620 really close mic it it's, it's I think it's a licensable sound. 1105 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:32,700 You think so? 1106 01:09:34,260 --> 01:09:36,720 Yes, that is exactly what it is. 1107 01:09:36,930 --> 01:09:41,700 Okay. Anyway, it's a bit. This is the real deal. We're not 1108 01:09:41,700 --> 01:09:46,680 you're not using electronic gizmos and software I'm doing 1109 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:49,620 that's a real deal to 1110 01:09:49,830 --> 01:09:54,330 Yes, that's true. This is true. Those are that's very real. 1111 01:09:54,750 --> 01:09:58,770 Anyway, three and $33.33 from her out of Tokyo, John and Adam, 1112 01:09:58,770 --> 01:10:02,940 you seem there Are you much on a roll lately? I noticed I was 1113 01:10:02,940 --> 01:10:06,660 sitting on a bagel. I think it was a sushi by big karma shot to 1114 01:10:06,660 --> 01:10:10,380 you another karma shot for all the cover artists cover art 1115 01:10:10,380 --> 01:10:14,850 artists. Like gift wrapping on a president makes my heart beat 1116 01:10:14,850 --> 01:10:16,080 faster. Oh, 1117 01:10:16,170 --> 01:10:20,520 let's just let's just re reread what she says artists. 1118 01:10:20,850 --> 01:10:24,330 nother karma shot for all the cover art artists. It slides 1119 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:28,050 life gift wrapping on a present. It makes your heart beat faster. 1120 01:10:28,050 --> 01:10:30,960 Her heart specifically hers. Yeah, while she's talking about 1121 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,710 herself. Yeah. And one more karma shot for all the dudes 1122 01:10:34,710 --> 01:10:39,420 called Ben, especially the ones who eat octopus balls in Osaka. 1123 01:10:41,490 --> 01:10:42,060 Ah, 1124 01:10:42,809 --> 01:10:46,799 these are the guys who are at the 50th birthday party. The 1125 01:10:46,799 --> 01:10:50,399 guys from Osaka the eaters? Yeah. from Osaka. Exactly. 1126 01:10:52,440 --> 01:10:54,390 You've got karma. So 1127 01:10:54,390 --> 01:11:00,930 I'm glad that we are bridging the the rivalry between Tokyo 1128 01:11:00,930 --> 01:11:06,300 and Osaka saga saga in Tokyo. So she puts a little snide remark 1129 01:11:06,300 --> 01:11:09,630 in there that they eat octopus balls. Yeah, but she still calls 1130 01:11:09,630 --> 01:11:12,660 them out for karma shot and she appreciates the dude's name Ben 1131 01:11:12,660 --> 01:11:15,240 because she relies on them to 1132 01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:20,040 switch. She's a famous architect that needs computers. And a lot 1133 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,430 of them would think so in today's world, especially in 1134 01:11:23,430 --> 01:11:24,900 your building big buildings. 1135 01:11:25,230 --> 01:11:27,900 They're building another huge thing that's right on the 1136 01:11:27,900 --> 01:11:31,770 domain. Drag is Adama Yeah, good, big things. 1137 01:11:32,309 --> 01:11:35,909 Jason Kieffer in Tallahassee, Florida, we go down to Associate 1138 01:11:35,909 --> 01:11:44,129 Executive producers for show 646 to her $95.64 sends note in in 1139 01:11:44,129 --> 01:11:46,499 the morning and John and Adam on the day before I wrote this, I 1140 01:11:46,499 --> 01:11:53,909 filled up my tank, and the gas purchase came to 33 dot 33. This 1141 01:11:53,909 --> 01:11:57,689 was a message to the cosmos that I needed to donate again. So I'm 1142 01:11:57,689 --> 01:12:03,329 sending you 29564 9564 represents the high temperature 1143 01:12:03,329 --> 01:12:08,579 and dew point at that time on 16th of August 2014. Nice plus 1144 01:12:08,579 --> 01:12:11,459 $200 Because it's worth it for the best podcast in the 1145 01:12:11,459 --> 01:12:15,029 universe. Please give me karma to start the semester. Ah, a 1146 01:12:15,029 --> 01:12:18,989 student? Uh huh. Started the semester as I continue to study 1147 01:12:18,989 --> 01:12:22,139 the science that is causing the climate to change. Oh, boy. 1148 01:12:22,139 --> 01:12:28,979 Thanks, Terry. You've got the 1149 01:12:29,009 --> 01:12:32,819 that Carrie cliff, we should probably revisit it. He was 1150 01:12:32,819 --> 01:12:36,509 talking about believing the science. If you believe in the 1151 01:12:36,509 --> 01:12:37,859 science, it's believed 1152 01:12:37,890 --> 01:12:40,860 in science. Was it believed in science? Yeah, it wasn't because 1153 01:12:40,860 --> 01:12:44,070 I brought that up, because it's like, it's like a faith thing. 1154 01:12:44,430 --> 01:12:47,100 So he would this he was a science. He didn't think of 1155 01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:49,380 science as a methodology, which is what Mike, let me do. 1156 01:12:49,769 --> 01:12:51,629 I have the clip here. Hold on, let's just listen to it again, 1157 01:12:51,629 --> 01:12:53,909 because it's an important thing he's doing here, 1158 01:12:53,910 --> 01:12:59,010 all of us in this room understand. Climate change is 1159 01:12:59,010 --> 01:13:03,210 not a crisis of the future. Climate change is here, now. 1160 01:13:04,110 --> 01:13:08,760 It's Happening. Happening all over the world. It's not a 1161 01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:13,110 challenge that's somehow remote and that people can grab on to. 1162 01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:17,880 And what's happening is the science is screaming at us. 1163 01:13:18,540 --> 01:13:21,570 That's right. Ask any kid in school, they understand what a 1164 01:13:21,570 --> 01:13:24,960 greenhouse is how it works. Yeah, come on, why we call it 1165 01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:29,580 the greenhouse effect, they get it. And here's what if you 1166 01:13:29,580 --> 01:13:30,180 accept 1167 01:13:30,330 --> 01:13:33,390 the science, if you accept the science, 1168 01:13:33,870 --> 01:13:37,410 if you accept that the science is causing climate change, 1169 01:13:37,440 --> 01:13:39,990 if you accept the science, this is what was pointed out to me an 1170 01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:43,350 email if you accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior, if 1171 01:13:43,350 --> 01:13:46,230 you accept the science, that's the analogy and 1172 01:13:46,230 --> 01:13:49,560 he says the science this is what they went from this clip what we 1173 01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:53,250 got away from now I remember it. If you replay that, in part, 1174 01:13:53,250 --> 01:13:56,850 again, he says if you accept that science is causing climate 1175 01:13:56,850 --> 01:13:57,420 change, 1176 01:13:57,900 --> 01:14:01,470 if you accept that the science is causing climate to change. 1177 01:14:03,570 --> 01:14:06,810 I think the science is causing the climate to change. I this is 1178 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:11,220 again, he is telling the Absolute Truth. The science is 1179 01:14:11,220 --> 01:14:16,080 causing the climate to change. And the climate change is really 1180 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,450 nothing but numbers and data and new stories. 1181 01:14:18,630 --> 01:14:23,070 Yeah, projections and it is good pewter models that are bullcrap. 1182 01:14:23,070 --> 01:14:23,220 And 1183 01:14:23,220 --> 01:14:26,130 I accept the science as my new religion. 1184 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,000 Essentially, that's what the idea is. 1185 01:14:35,310 --> 01:14:40,650 I have an aunt in here that is wandering around on the mic. 1186 01:14:40,710 --> 01:14:42,300 Shut up already. 1187 01:14:42,780 --> 01:14:45,600 Science. You want to fry him? 1188 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,330 I can't see him here. 1189 01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:51,090 Pull out the tube man tube him. 1190 01:14:51,420 --> 01:14:56,970 No, I'm not gonna tube that pull out the tube. All right. Marvin 1191 01:14:56,970 --> 01:15:02,580 Bretagne or Britain in Bellevue, Nebraska. Aska 234561 of my 1192 01:15:02,580 --> 01:15:07,560 absolute favorite donation let me see we have a note from him 1193 01:15:08,250 --> 01:15:11,340 sorry I should have done this earlier I didn't notice is blank 1194 01:15:11,340 --> 01:15:14,100 br ITT AI NBR I 1195 01:15:14,220 --> 01:15:15,060 don't want I'm just gonna 1196 01:15:18,119 --> 01:15:21,509 leave it here it is producer donation no for Episode Six. No 1197 01:15:21,509 --> 01:15:26,969 this is an old one. No sorry routine behind it. 1198 01:15:27,690 --> 01:15:31,740 one nostril is like completely stuffed up and I can't seem to 1199 01:15:31,740 --> 01:15:33,000 clear it out today. I'm sorry. 1200 01:15:34,260 --> 01:15:38,310 Sorry for cussing at yourself. All right, didn't we have you 1201 01:15:38,310 --> 01:15:43,140 have anything from Martin? Or I'm sorry. From whom? Marvin. 1202 01:15:43,260 --> 01:15:50,730 Marvin retain. Let me check my mind. Let's see. Marvin just 1203 01:15:50,730 --> 01:15:55,980 done this donation before I know it this is it. Yeah, and it came 1204 01:15:55,980 --> 01:15:58,920 in from Okay, here's what the problem is his his emails got 1205 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,790 this D it's it's done. Okay, I'm not gonna say what His email is 1206 01:16:02,790 --> 01:16:03,960 but I don't have 1207 01:16:05,610 --> 01:16:11,160 I don't have an okay I gotta hang on a second. Okay, we you 1208 01:16:11,190 --> 01:16:17,670 are blah blah blah. Doing there it is. Oh, good. Cheese. 1209 01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:25,050 No, it's just names and this is for 646 Okay, how many John is 1210 01:16:25,050 --> 01:16:27,300 italicized paragraph is for me so I don't want to read this 1211 01:16:27,300 --> 01:16:31,710 part. This is a okay, you gotta get your pen out. 1212 01:16:33,450 --> 01:16:35,460 I don't actually use a pen on the show but okay. 1213 01:16:36,990 --> 01:16:40,530 I do okay, that's funny. I do I use a pen. So I write in a 1214 01:16:40,530 --> 01:16:44,010 little book. Donation birthday caught from my wife. 1215 01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:45,750 Okay, this is from 1216 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:57,270 Lee Britton. br ITT AI en tu tu I'm looking for his wife's name 1217 01:16:57,300 --> 01:17:01,230 isn't his is his is his name Marvin or Li? It's on here. 1218 01:17:01,230 --> 01:17:03,240 It's Lee. I don't know where the Marvin comes from. It comes from 1219 01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:10,290 the Pay Pal account all the way after the to do beginners or the 1220 01:17:10,290 --> 01:17:14,220 Bellevue strike again, I don't have a special name for 23456 1221 01:17:14,220 --> 01:17:16,830 donation but I wanted to give you a donation ending with the 1222 01:17:16,830 --> 01:17:20,280 six but couldn't swing the one at the front. Maybe this can be 1223 01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:25,260 called the minus one donation. 234560. I got it. I like it. 1224 01:17:25,500 --> 01:17:27,720 There's a combination donation birthday call from my wife 1225 01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:28,350 Peggy. 1226 01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,220 Okay, Peggy got it. Hey, Peggy. 1227 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,770 In keeping with her last donation, this is her birthday 1228 01:17:34,770 --> 01:17:38,490 present. That's nice. Donating is addicting and I have a 1229 01:17:38,490 --> 01:17:41,010 birthday coming up in October for us a knighthood is in our 1230 01:17:41,010 --> 01:17:43,470 future. I know a knighthood is generally a singular status but 1231 01:17:43,470 --> 01:17:47,940 for the past big gulf 24 years 24 year anniversary when we have 1232 01:17:48,150 --> 01:17:51,180 Yes, we have done nearly everything together. So our 1233 01:17:51,180 --> 01:17:55,860 future knighthood would be as a couple Ah. So he needs the 1234 01:17:55,860 --> 01:17:56,730 following clips. 1235 01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:58,200 Right. But when is 1236 01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,920 her birthday? The 24th of two decimal places today. 1237 01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:06,840 Today. It is Tuesday. And his name is Marvin Lee Britton. 1238 01:18:07,830 --> 01:18:10,860 Okay, apparently he's either him or someone's in the chat room 1239 01:18:10,860 --> 01:18:11,730 who knows what's going on? 1240 01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,880 Oh, it's probably him. Okay, though he's wants to follow in 1241 01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:19,950 clip combination. Can I put my pen down? And then he says yes. 1242 01:18:20,220 --> 01:18:23,970 Then he says the following which I think we have to read. Please 1243 01:18:23,970 --> 01:18:27,810 remind producers to stick to a three clip limit. Yes, thank 1244 01:18:27,810 --> 01:18:33,780 you. Okay, this is the first one Manning's Boom shakalaka Jehan 1245 01:18:33,780 --> 01:18:38,280 see JCD is echoing you will obey followed by a couple of live 1246 01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:42,090 seconds of JCD tech grouts telling us to throw away our AI 1247 01:18:42,570 --> 01:18:47,670 Okay, so we need to not detect grouch that's some guy and go 1248 01:18:47,670 --> 01:18:53,850 Boom shakalaka followed by a will obey will obey followed by 1249 01:18:53,850 --> 01:18:54,690 some kind of 1250 01:18:55,530 --> 01:18:58,440 thing from the tech grouch. You've been playing it? 1251 01:18:58,950 --> 01:19:02,970 Oh, no, it's been turned into a into a jingle and it's not like 1252 01:19:02,970 --> 01:19:06,060 I decided that would be funny to play. It's not my best thing. Go 1253 01:19:06,060 --> 01:19:13,380 Boom. Shakalaka Vaughn my phone 1254 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:28,770 my short one for comic genius. Old Baby is cold. 1255 01:19:31,980 --> 01:19:35,490 Okay, that's Peggy 1256 01:19:36,330 --> 01:19:38,010 Marinelli and Peggy Lee. 1257 01:19:39,060 --> 01:19:40,260 Lee. Wow, I'm 1258 01:19:40,260 --> 01:19:44,340 just making that up. Oh, three clip limit everybody. 1259 01:19:44,790 --> 01:19:48,840 Here we go back to the back to the list. Yes, Joshua was still 1260 01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:52,890 well in San Diego, California. 23343 Hi, Chip and chop. I've 1261 01:19:52,890 --> 01:19:55,980 been longtime pre donor. For all you listeners who remember what 1262 01:19:55,980 --> 01:19:59,520 a pre donor is and still haven't donated. I want to call you all 1263 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:04,410 out and As douchebags Well hey, thank you my wife's favorite 1264 01:20:04,410 --> 01:20:07,200 numbers 43 and her favorite food is mac and cheese and I got 1265 01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,570 hooked on the show when I realized my wife is probably a 1266 01:20:09,570 --> 01:20:12,870 government handler. I would like to request that Adam please 1267 01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:16,770 honor me by not de douching. But by pulling out three old random 1268 01:20:16,770 --> 01:20:19,590 jingles we haven't heard in a long time. Thanks for keeping 1269 01:20:19,590 --> 01:20:23,370 the show going. So that so long that I would hate myself too 1270 01:20:23,370 --> 01:20:24,990 much not to donate. 1271 01:20:26,430 --> 01:20:29,970 Okay. Well, this is you know, there's 1272 01:20:30,060 --> 01:20:32,730 it's a challenge for Adam to do this is a challenge. 1273 01:20:33,480 --> 01:20:37,050 And the thing is, I wasn't just, I don't know, let me see I've 1274 01:20:37,050 --> 01:20:47,610 got I'm just about to and I'm faltering, so I'll just grab I 1275 01:20:47,610 --> 01:20:49,920 don't know man. Do you have anything you like this? You 1276 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,260 know, there's comes a point when there's a lot of 1277 01:20:52,260 --> 01:20:54,780 old ones that you haven't played for a long time. Okay, hold 1278 01:20:54,780 --> 01:20:57,390 on here. Now, here's what I'll do. I will sort the folder by 1279 01:20:57,390 --> 01:20:59,850 date. Yeah, just play the three old ones. 1280 01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:07,140 Okay, sorting folder. Again, do that. That's nice. 1281 01:21:07,260 --> 01:21:12,690 Sorting folder. Sorting folder. Sorting folder. Sorting folder. 1282 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:16,350 Okay, we got three here we go. No agenda Shall we get kicked to 1283 01:21:16,350 --> 01:21:22,740 the crotch? Your slaves can get the mac and cheese. Macaroni and 1284 01:21:22,740 --> 01:21:27,450 cheese. melted together. Mac and cheese mac and cheese mac and 1285 01:21:27,450 --> 01:21:27,780 cheese. 1286 01:21:28,139 --> 01:21:29,609 Adios. mofo. 1287 01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:32,790 You've got karma. 1288 01:21:32,850 --> 01:21:33,810 That's the one you want. 1289 01:21:35,310 --> 01:21:41,760 All right. Okay. Finally, ad lib booty a from Hesperia, 1290 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,640 California tuner dollar. So it'd be our last Associate Executive 1291 01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:50,280 Producer. A lot of producers today. He says you guys are a 1292 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:57,090 beacon of light over the dark bs of the lamestream media. Keep up 1293 01:21:57,090 --> 01:22:00,240 the good work. Short and simple. 1294 01:22:00,270 --> 01:22:02,670 Thank you. And the karma of course. 1295 01:22:03,750 --> 01:22:07,200 We want to thank you what your play play while you 1296 01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,380 were talking over the guy was right there at the pause. I'm 1297 01:22:10,380 --> 01:22:13,020 sorry I misjudged your timing. We'll try it again. 1298 01:22:14,610 --> 01:22:16,320 You've got karma. I 1299 01:22:17,430 --> 01:22:20,010 want to thank everybody remind that we do remind everyone we 1300 01:22:20,010 --> 01:22:23,310 have a show on Thursday. We have a good group of producers today. 1301 01:22:23,310 --> 01:22:26,340 Want to thank every one of them and also the other helpers and 1302 01:22:26,340 --> 01:22:31,230 we want to remind people it's divorce.org/na for the upcoming 1303 01:22:31,230 --> 01:22:38,640 show. Also, I want to make one mention here. Let's see where it 1304 01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:43,620 is. Yeah, we have a note from forbearance we stopped 1305 01:22:43,620 --> 01:22:45,960 forbearance we stopped hold forbearance. What's up with the 1306 01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,650 barrens? Well barren desert J de came in with a late donation 1307 01:22:49,650 --> 01:22:51,780 which will show up on the Thursday show, but he wanted to 1308 01:22:51,780 --> 01:22:57,870 make sure that we got through a 6464 donation in anticipation of 1309 01:22:57,900 --> 01:23:03,060 my upcoming today's show, mac and cheese analysis. Oh, gosh. 1310 01:23:03,780 --> 01:23:08,190 And he vows to keep well, that was my tomorrow was Mac and 1311 01:23:08,190 --> 01:23:11,400 Cheese Day, my friend can't be in denial. 1312 01:23:12,690 --> 01:23:15,300 May I? Well, I'll wait for the analysis. I have something to 1313 01:23:15,300 --> 01:23:16,290 say about mac and cheese. 1314 01:23:16,710 --> 01:23:20,130 Okay. And anyway, just wanted to get his word in. All right. 1315 01:23:20,460 --> 01:23:23,010 Well, thank you all very much. These are actual credits. I 1316 01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,980 explained this to many people who are trying to figure out how 1317 01:23:25,980 --> 01:23:30,900 the show works. Just like Hollywood, we have executive and 1318 01:23:30,900 --> 01:23:34,860 Associate Executive producers, and they really produce the show 1319 01:23:34,950 --> 01:23:39,000 with not just their direction. But with their financial 1320 01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,570 support. These are real credits, no less than anything else you 1321 01:23:42,570 --> 01:23:45,420 might see on any of the mainstream shows. In fact, many 1322 01:23:45,420 --> 01:23:47,610 of the credits you'll see executive and Associate 1323 01:23:47,610 --> 01:23:50,790 Executive producers of new shows have a smaller audience than 1324 01:23:50,790 --> 01:23:54,450 this the best podcast in the universe. True. And as the only 1325 01:23:54,450 --> 01:23:57,810 way we can support ourselves, we do support ourselves, we do not 1326 01:23:57,810 --> 01:24:02,130 have advertising, which is how we actually able to discuss many 1327 01:24:02,130 --> 01:24:06,030 of the things, the end, the end the format of the show, we do 1328 01:24:06,030 --> 01:24:08,670 not have to break for anything, we can go as long or shorter as 1329 01:24:08,670 --> 01:24:14,070 we want. Nothing is off the table Ever. Which sometimes 1330 01:24:14,070 --> 01:24:19,410 leads to hilarity to vorak.org/and. Of course, we can 1331 01:24:19,410 --> 01:24:22,920 always count on everybody out there the producers to propagate 1332 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:23,520 our formula. 1333 01:24:23,580 --> 01:24:28,260 Our formula is this. We go out. We had people in the mouth 1334 01:24:40,410 --> 01:24:43,890 and we don't have to do any pigs and human clothing because we've 1335 01:24:43,890 --> 01:24:44,910 already done that. 1336 01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:50,280 Yeah. And now, at the beginning of the show, we kind of got on a 1337 01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,950 little track and then we went off into another dimension and 1338 01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:55,770 which was very interesting, but I'm gonna go back to talking a 1339 01:24:55,770 --> 01:24:58,830 little bit about some of the battles that the United States 1340 01:24:58,830 --> 01:25:01,230 is fighting and around the world. 1341 01:25:01,530 --> 01:25:06,150 And I would say one of those would be Cal 1342 01:25:07,950 --> 01:25:10,980 caliphates definitely on the list but so I ran into this clip 1343 01:25:10,980 --> 01:25:15,150 that picked it off the Tom Hogan thumb Hogan show and it was with 1344 01:25:15,180 --> 01:25:15,720 who's 1345 01:25:16,349 --> 01:25:19,679 Hogan? Tom Hogan Hogan? I'm thinking 1346 01:25:20,550 --> 01:25:24,180 the Is this the all you're thinking a Hartman? Yeah, I 1347 01:25:24,180 --> 01:25:27,360 think it's should be thumb Hogan. It okay. Just so I 1348 01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,910 understand she Thumma Hogan used to be an editor of InfoWorld. I 1349 01:25:29,910 --> 01:25:30,540 shouldn't probably 1350 01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,840 use this. Just so I understand. Okay, so 1351 01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:35,220 we get some Hartmann 1352 01:25:35,250 --> 01:25:37,440 Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You have to wait 1353 01:25:37,440 --> 01:25:40,020 a minute. If you're opening up a segment, we need to open up the 1354 01:25:40,020 --> 01:25:46,290 segment. First, don't you? 1355 01:25:48,630 --> 01:25:52,830 Well, no, no, it's funny. You you be anticipated. The thumb on 1356 01:25:52,830 --> 01:25:54,450 Ferguson police. Ah, it's 1357 01:25:54,450 --> 01:25:57,870 the wrong limb. Wrong. flouse Crap. Oh, sorry. Yes. 1358 01:25:57,870 --> 01:26:00,360 Sorry. That's it. So you know, that's the way the show works. 1359 01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:05,940 You do 90% 95% 98% of the time you nail it. But this time? No. 1360 01:26:06,810 --> 01:26:07,380 This is the 1361 01:26:08,490 --> 01:26:09,240 buzzing myself. 1362 01:26:09,269 --> 01:26:13,739 This is the clip from Tom Hayden. Okay, now, he thought I 1363 01:26:13,739 --> 01:26:17,729 had Tom on his show. So it was a thumb and Tom show for a while. 1364 01:26:18,209 --> 01:26:21,059 And and when he played this clip, there's a there's an 1365 01:26:21,059 --> 01:26:24,449 interesting little tidbit in here that I want to bring in at 1366 01:26:24,449 --> 01:26:28,499 the end. And it's going to it's kind of a Mind Blow. I shall 1367 01:26:28,500 --> 01:26:31,590 be quiet throughout the entire clip is what you're suggesting I 1368 01:26:31,590 --> 01:26:31,920 do, 1369 01:26:32,309 --> 01:26:35,129 man. Yeah, yeah, it would be okay. Hi, Tom. 1370 01:26:35,130 --> 01:26:35,730 How are you? 1371 01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,480 I'm well, what is the long war doctrine? You've been writing 1372 01:26:39,480 --> 01:26:42,030 about this? Tell it tell us about it. And who's behind it? 1373 01:26:43,500 --> 01:26:43,860 Well, 1374 01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,920 I didn't know anything about it till 12 years ago, I'm holding 1375 01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:54,990 up a book edited by Andrew Bacevich called the Long War to 1376 01:26:54,990 --> 01:26:58,980 doctrine that was invented by people in the Pentagon about 1377 01:26:58,980 --> 01:27:07,500 2004. They said it's going to be a long war, stretching maybe 80 1378 01:27:07,500 --> 01:27:12,210 years. I think that's because the long war against the Soviet 1379 01:27:12,210 --> 01:27:16,800 Union lasted 80 years. That would be about 15 presidencies. 1380 01:27:17,070 --> 01:27:22,920 God knows how many trillions of dollars that we don't have. And 1381 01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,760 one of these authors, the chief chief adviser to General 1382 01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:31,350 Petraeus said that at the time that Iraq was just a small war, 1383 01:27:31,500 --> 01:27:36,810 in the context of a long one. I only offered this advice to help 1384 01:27:36,810 --> 01:27:43,980 people trying to figure out what's going on, you know? How 1385 01:27:43,980 --> 01:27:49,590 can this be going on forever. And there is a logic to it, just 1386 01:27:49,590 --> 01:27:56,490 as there was the Cold War, the logic is to defeat so called 1387 01:27:56,490 --> 01:28:01,470 Muslim extremism over a number of battlefields over a number of 1388 01:28:01,470 --> 01:28:08,340 decades. In the words of Bruce ryedale, CIA, analyst and 1389 01:28:08,340 --> 01:28:13,680 advisor to President Obama recently, we have to stop. We 1390 01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:18,930 have to, we have to keep killing them till they stop killing us. 1391 01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,270 All right. So the one thing I thought this was interesting, 1392 01:28:24,270 --> 01:28:27,150 because the long war apparently is some is a doctrine, like 1393 01:28:27,150 --> 01:28:31,890 policy and policy document may be underway. But the unique part 1394 01:28:31,890 --> 01:28:37,590 of this was, it was formulated in 2004. What else happened in 1395 01:28:37,590 --> 01:28:38,490 2004, 1396 01:28:38,519 --> 01:28:43,079 while we were in Iraq in 2003 2004, 1397 01:28:43,140 --> 01:28:48,630 was a presidential election. And this is the year that Wesley 1398 01:28:48,630 --> 01:28:51,780 Clark was given the the seven names 1399 01:28:51,809 --> 01:28:56,669 Ah, well, hold on. First, let's review the West Clark seven. 1400 01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:02,040 So I came back to see him a few weeks later. And by that time, 1401 01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,380 we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, Are we still going to 1402 01:29:04,380 --> 01:29:07,500 war with Iraq? And he said, Oh, it's worse than that. He said, 1403 01:29:07,620 --> 01:29:09,960 He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. He 1404 01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,440 said, I just he said, I just got this down from upstairs main 1405 01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:16,320 Secretary Defense Office today. And he said this a memo that 1406 01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:20,610 describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five 1407 01:29:20,610 --> 01:29:24,720 years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, 1408 01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,480 Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran. 1409 01:29:29,010 --> 01:29:33,000 West Clarke was on CNN. 1410 01:29:34,860 --> 01:29:39,150 And if he doesn't show up that often on via remote when he 1411 01:29:39,150 --> 01:29:41,610 does, there's a message you know, it's not just hanging out 1412 01:29:41,610 --> 01:29:43,740 in the studio. You want to hear that real quick. But he Yeah, 1413 01:29:43,799 --> 01:29:47,639 there are a lot of mixed motives in all of the factional fighting 1414 01:29:47,669 --> 01:29:49,439 around Syria, but he's 1415 01:29:49,500 --> 01:29:54,300 he is when you listen to this guy, even though he is a total 1416 01:29:54,300 --> 01:29:58,440 shill and all in key messages so beautifully. So when he says 1417 01:29:58,440 --> 01:30:02,700 there's many motives he's not Not kidding. He's not kidding. 1418 01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:05,370 It's not just the one we're being told here at home. 1419 01:30:05,580 --> 01:30:08,220 But But what comes through clearly is the United States. 1420 01:30:08,310 --> 01:30:12,300 We're reevaluating policies. And I think you're gonna see us go 1421 01:30:12,300 --> 01:30:15,300 into Syria with combat multipliers with airstrikes, 1422 01:30:15,330 --> 01:30:16,980 combat multipliers. 1423 01:30:18,119 --> 01:30:21,509 I love that. There's more. There's more coming. Come that 1424 01:30:21,569 --> 01:30:24,629 well, there's a lot of good words in this episode of The no 1425 01:30:24,629 --> 01:30:25,769 agenda show be one so 1426 01:30:25,770 --> 01:30:27,270 suitable intelligence, is there 1427 01:30:27,359 --> 01:30:28,799 suitable intelligence? 1428 01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:32,730 I just love stopping and listening with 1429 01:30:32,730 --> 01:30:35,760 suitable intelligence. What is unsuitable intelligence? 1430 01:30:35,820 --> 01:30:36,630 Snowden? 1431 01:30:38,490 --> 01:30:40,740 Think it's very clear from General Dempsey his comment 1432 01:30:40,740 --> 01:30:43,860 yesterday that we don't anticipate giving isis a 1433 01:30:43,860 --> 01:30:46,320 sanctuary? The How do you not 1434 01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,560 give them a sanctuary without going against the thing, General 1435 01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:53,160 Clark that this President has has AIC made a key part of his 1436 01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,010 legacy, which is, I'm the president who got America out of 1437 01:30:56,010 --> 01:30:59,670 two wars. That is what he ran on. That is what he has done. 1438 01:30:59,670 --> 01:31:02,760 And now not only is it the possibility of whatever word 1439 01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:06,540 you'd like to use, but, you know, a military involvement in 1440 01:31:06,540 --> 01:31:08,910 one of the countries he supposedly got this country out 1441 01:31:08,910 --> 01:31:09,150 of? 1442 01:31:09,660 --> 01:31:11,640 Well, I think what the President's gonna say is, he's 1443 01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,640 the president united states who's working to keep America 1444 01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:17,250 safe from terrorists, I'm gonna wait for it who 1445 01:31:17,250 --> 01:31:17,670 is 1446 01:31:17,849 --> 01:31:22,739 come home? Attention attention. There is a country who needs to 1447 01:31:22,739 --> 01:31:23,399 pay attention. 1448 01:31:23,790 --> 01:31:26,970 And that's why he took out Osama bin Laden, and that's why he's 1449 01:31:26,970 --> 01:31:31,980 gonna go after ISIS. They are a threat. They do. But but the key 1450 01:31:31,980 --> 01:31:34,980 thing here is the United States is not going to do this alone. 1451 01:31:34,980 --> 01:31:37,320 We've got to get our regional allies in there. And I want to 1452 01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:40,620 see the Saudis show some leadership here. They're after 1453 01:31:40,620 --> 01:31:43,770 all, the one country in the region that is the most 1454 01:31:43,770 --> 01:31:47,100 threatened because how could you have an Islamic caliphate if you 1455 01:31:47,100 --> 01:31:51,930 don't control Mecca and Medina, so one way or another, that is, 1456 01:31:51,930 --> 01:31:56,250 is coming after the Saudis and they need to take action now, to 1457 01:31:56,250 --> 01:32:00,150 go after the is not stand back? Go after it. Now. 1458 01:32:00,180 --> 01:32:03,330 Get off your golden toilet, bitches, that it's 1459 01:32:03,330 --> 01:32:06,180 the clip of the day you have to play it. I'm sorry. Really. It's 1460 01:32:06,180 --> 01:32:07,920 extremely important because 1461 01:32:07,950 --> 01:32:10,740 it's an important clip. I agree. Well, thank you very much. I 1462 01:32:10,740 --> 01:32:14,460 mean, I think there's more to it, but I'll take it anytime I 1463 01:32:14,460 --> 01:32:19,590 can get clinical. This is this is indeed very big and very 1464 01:32:19,590 --> 01:32:24,000 important clip. It's very, very big information. And, and I have 1465 01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,430 to say, again, this is the new setup that I have and 1466 01:32:26,430 --> 01:32:30,540 everything's all fixed and and I have now a scanning system on 1467 01:32:30,540 --> 01:32:33,690 the television that continuously changes channels, but it's all 1468 01:32:33,690 --> 01:32:36,600 being recorded so I can swing it back. I record it boom, I've got 1469 01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:40,680 it. It's great. Of course I'm a boring husband I sit at home all 1470 01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:41,220 day and my 1471 01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:46,710 wife is galavanting Nice. What are you doing? Parties 1472 01:32:46,740 --> 01:32:48,210 are you married to that guy? 1473 01:32:49,380 --> 01:32:50,700 Are you married to that guy? 1474 01:32:54,210 --> 01:32:56,430 I have a couple more things I'd really love to move along I 1475 01:32:56,430 --> 01:32:59,400 don't know if you wanted to circle back to to the doctrine 1476 01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:00,960 with with West Clark's I 1477 01:33:00,990 --> 01:33:04,770 go we got we just wanted to get that into the into play an eye 1478 01:33:04,770 --> 01:33:05,130 on it. 1479 01:33:05,340 --> 01:33:12,090 So let's circle right back to Saudi Arabia. The mat and hearts 1480 01:33:12,090 --> 01:33:15,810 show this is our friend Matt from the from the Associated 1481 01:33:15,810 --> 01:33:19,290 Press. And it's actually a two parter. Let me get both pieces 1482 01:33:19,290 --> 01:33:24,060 here. This is not the President was talking about hey, we're 1483 01:33:24,060 --> 01:33:26,790 gonna have you kill in America. We're going to end this way we 1484 01:33:26,790 --> 01:33:31,410 will be talking about folly. Jim Foley if you kill America's will 1485 01:33:31,410 --> 01:33:33,810 come after you want to kill you. But you know, hey, we need to 1486 01:33:33,810 --> 01:33:36,720 get everyone involved in ISIS. It's yeah, but if you will gonna 1487 01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:39,540 kill you if you kill Americans. And so mad is kind of saying 1488 01:33:39,540 --> 01:33:42,540 hey, what's up? What is the deal? Are we waiting for 1489 01:33:42,540 --> 01:33:46,500 everybody? Does everybody agree? Are we all on the same page? He 1490 01:33:46,500 --> 01:33:50,820 is obviously short circuiting Murray's brain, which is kind of 1491 01:33:50,820 --> 01:33:51,630 funny to watch with a 1492 01:33:51,630 --> 01:33:54,330 broad statement about the fact that this isn't a US fight 1493 01:33:54,330 --> 01:33:57,150 against ISIL This is a fight that every country should feel 1494 01:33:57,210 --> 01:33:58,470 deeply about and should take off 1495 01:33:58,500 --> 01:34:01,350 I guess I'm just wondering what why did he feel compelled to say 1496 01:34:01,380 --> 01:34:02,640 something like this? If 1497 01:34:03,270 --> 01:34:05,460 I'm sorry, I know this start 1498 01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:09,450 after that long lecture No, 1499 01:34:09,809 --> 01:34:14,159 no What what happened is this is a clip that I had set up and 1500 01:34:14,159 --> 01:34:15,239 then I didn't this isn't 1501 01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:18,750 a US by ISIL This is a fight that every country should feel 1502 01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:20,100 deeply about and should take off 1503 01:34:20,100 --> 01:34:22,950 I guess I'm just wondering what why did he feel compelled to say 1504 01:34:22,980 --> 01:34:26,220 something like this? If in fact, everything is going along 1505 01:34:26,490 --> 01:34:28,590 swimmingly? According to me we would 1506 01:34:28,590 --> 01:34:30,180 be the last people to say everything's going along 1507 01:34:30,180 --> 01:34:32,850 swimmingly. Notice how he uses this first episode. 1508 01:34:33,179 --> 01:34:37,439 But if you're if you're already happy with what the people and 1509 01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:43,139 governments around the Middle East are doing, say think 1510 01:34:43,139 --> 01:34:43,229 they're 1511 01:34:43,230 --> 01:34:46,530 dating. I think the I think this is a lover's spat actually, 1512 01:34:47,370 --> 01:34:48,540 to extract the cancer 1513 01:34:48,570 --> 01:34:51,570 declared I would nobody's happy today about anything related to 1514 01:34:51,570 --> 01:34:51,750 that 1515 01:34:51,780 --> 01:34:54,630 go well, alright, happy is not the right word. If you're 1516 01:34:54,630 --> 01:34:59,340 already satisfied or believe that everyone peoples across the 1517 01:34:59,340 --> 01:35:02,340 Middle East or already doing everything they can to extract 1518 01:35:02,340 --> 01:35:03,720 that's also not what I said. Those are 1519 01:35:03,930 --> 01:35:07,620 not what I said, to find out what I know the answer was 1520 01:35:07,620 --> 01:35:09,780 we don't have evidence that governments are financially 1521 01:35:09,780 --> 01:35:13,770 supporting ISIS. Okay. But we need all the governments in the 1522 01:35:13,770 --> 01:35:16,650 region to work together with us to fight ISIS. 1523 01:35:18,270 --> 01:35:22,140 Wasn't it claimed early on that it was Qatar that was financing 1524 01:35:22,140 --> 01:35:25,440 these guys course, of course, this is now nobody's financing 1525 01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:27,390 them, and they got all this money. Are you kidding me? 1526 01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:33,990 It's all falling apart and poor Marie is being held. She's kind 1527 01:35:33,990 --> 01:35:37,980 of good at it. Because she's so annoying in so many ways. I 1528 01:35:38,010 --> 01:35:39,600 sometimes forget what was said. 1529 01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:43,740 But clearly, it's a threat that that's grown. And clearly, I 1530 01:35:43,740 --> 01:35:44,370 think the what? 1531 01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:46,500 I'm going to try to be confrontational. I'm just trying 1532 01:35:46,500 --> 01:35:46,770 to figure out. 1533 01:35:47,250 --> 01:35:50,790 Now they are said there, they're having sex. There. I'm not 1534 01:35:50,790 --> 01:35:52,140 trying to be confrontational honey. 1535 01:35:53,970 --> 01:35:56,130 Do you think that they're not all working together? Now 1536 01:35:56,130 --> 01:35:56,520 clearly, 1537 01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:59,100 there's more we can all do to fight eyesores. So there's no 1538 01:35:59,250 --> 01:35:59,820 specific 1539 01:36:00,210 --> 01:36:04,050 stranger Twitter icon and drink this shaker. Your specific 1540 01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:07,200 that was not intended for any specific country. It was 1541 01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:09,660 intended. And I think this is an important point. I think ISIL 1542 01:36:09,660 --> 01:36:12,720 wants to make this about the United States and our actions. 1543 01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,480 And I think what the President was trying to say is that this 1544 01:36:15,480 --> 01:36:18,930 is not about the United States. And what we do. This is about 1545 01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:22,920 countries in the region coming together to fight a shared 1546 01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:24,990 threat. And this is not about us. And 1547 01:36:25,770 --> 01:36:29,490 so then Matt, just he's he's ready to stick it to her because 1548 01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:33,330 of course we have these horrible, the abhorrent, the 1549 01:36:33,330 --> 01:36:42,930 most violent jihadi group, crazy as beheading mofos. And he's 1550 01:36:42,930 --> 01:36:46,710 going to pull the obvious card there. 1551 01:36:46,740 --> 01:36:47,670 barbarity? 1552 01:36:47,970 --> 01:36:50,970 The bar bet isn't an actual word barbarity? 1553 01:36:51,269 --> 01:36:56,189 Did she say barbarity or Barbary bar? Like Barbary? To me? 1554 01:36:56,429 --> 01:36:57,809 They're barbarity? 1555 01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:00,720 No, she's saying barbarity. Is that correct security 1556 01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:02,820 in there? Yeah. Turn it up. 1557 01:37:02,910 --> 01:37:04,020 Okay, I'm cranking it. 1558 01:37:05,070 --> 01:37:06,660 There barbarity? 1559 01:37:07,620 --> 01:37:11,010 You're saying is that a word Barbara? Melody sure is really 1560 01:37:11,010 --> 01:37:14,520 boundless, boundless, its alliteration. Boundless 1561 01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:17,220 barbarity. Oh, write it down. We have another possible show 1562 01:37:17,220 --> 01:37:17,520 title. 1563 01:37:17,820 --> 01:37:22,830 And all peace loving Muslims have to do around the world is 1564 01:37:22,830 --> 01:37:25,410 look at these photos to know they don't represent their 1565 01:37:25,410 --> 01:37:28,470 religion. I note that the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, that 1566 01:37:28,470 --> 01:37:30,450 nation's highest religious authority, and 1567 01:37:30,480 --> 01:37:35,760 this is a big mistake, Marie, do not bring in the Saudi Arabia, 1568 01:37:35,790 --> 01:37:38,520 because especially we did move to things and this is my mats on 1569 01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:38,610 it 1570 01:37:38,610 --> 01:37:42,900 today said that the Islamic State and al Qaeda were the 1571 01:37:42,930 --> 01:37:46,140 enemy number one of Islam and not in any way part of the 1572 01:37:46,140 --> 01:37:49,140 faith. So I certainly don't want to speak for him. But he was 1573 01:37:49,140 --> 01:37:53,850 very clear about how at least Muslims in his country should 1574 01:37:53,850 --> 01:37:55,650 view what ISIL is 1575 01:37:55,650 --> 01:37:59,130 doing. No matter you mentioned the grandmas be in Saudi Arabia. 1576 01:37:59,850 --> 01:38:02,970 But you know, Saudi Arabia is a country in which beheading is 1577 01:38:02,970 --> 01:38:07,230 actually the legal form of execution. And it's a country 1578 01:38:07,230 --> 01:38:08,580 that is, you 1579 01:38:09,210 --> 01:38:14,670 know, they hate gays, you know, it's illegal and dry. Don't 1580 01:38:14,670 --> 01:38:18,180 Don't Don't harass women can beat your wife and now, the 1581 01:38:18,180 --> 01:38:20,220 grand mufti, he's all this in that. 1582 01:38:22,380 --> 01:38:25,980 Department has long criticized for its human rights, right? 1583 01:38:25,980 --> 01:38:26,280 That is 1584 01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:28,650 true. That is true. But Shut up, Matt. 1585 01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:32,490 I was just highlighting comments made by Mojo for you understand 1586 01:38:32,490 --> 01:38:35,160 legislator, when we have concerns with some of their 1587 01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:38,160 practices, we raise those but that's wholly separate from our 1588 01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:41,460 counterterrorism cooperation. And I would say I was bringing 1589 01:38:41,460 --> 01:38:41,700 up the 1590 01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:45,330 look, the look, there's beheading and hating gays and 1591 01:38:45,330 --> 01:38:47,670 killing gays, and then there's our counterterrorism 1592 01:38:47,670 --> 01:38:50,700 cooperation, you really have to see these things in completely 1593 01:38:50,700 --> 01:38:56,550 different lights. Again, people were just trying to help you 1594 01:38:57,030 --> 01:39:02,760 open your eyes to the insanity that is unfolding before us now. 1595 01:39:04,380 --> 01:39:07,320 On the radar, of course, we have two things we the way I'm seeing 1596 01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:11,400 it been this grand game. We are now preparing to the we're 1597 01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:15,510 preparing the public at large for an invasion, a bombing, a 1598 01:39:15,510 --> 01:39:18,600 destruction of the eastern portion of Syria, which is 1599 01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:23,160 strategically very important to stop and from my perspective to 1600 01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:25,950 stop pipelines from Iran, Iraq into the Syrian port, which is 1601 01:39:25,950 --> 01:39:29,760 owned by Russia, but also to enable the gas from Qatar up 1602 01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:31,890 through Homs. Aleppo, all these places that have been bombed 1603 01:39:31,890 --> 01:39:38,790 into Turkey into Europe. So this, but it is also and I was a 1604 01:39:38,790 --> 01:39:41,820 little on the fence about this earlier. I really believe at 1605 01:39:41,820 --> 01:39:47,610 this point. That the this is also a setup for a Sunni Shia 1606 01:39:47,610 --> 01:39:52,740 civil war in Iraq, not just in Iraq, but everywhere, Sunni 1607 01:39:52,740 --> 01:39:58,650 Shias shop. And the funny thing is, and this kind of hit me when 1608 01:39:58,650 --> 01:40:01,410 I was reviewing some of what McCain Dean used to say and how 1609 01:40:01,410 --> 01:40:04,500 things are setting up now. I believe there might be a 1610 01:40:04,500 --> 01:40:06,570 backroom deal being done with Iran. 1611 01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:11,580 Well, that's been indicated by a number of sources over the last 1612 01:40:11,580 --> 01:40:15,600 ever since the yes, yeah, ever since the melaque. Maliki got 1613 01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:18,960 into the office and couldn't do anything and but I was kind of 1614 01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:22,050 ignoring it. And it makes sense when this is what I would go 1615 01:40:22,050 --> 01:40:24,930 along with this thesis because I still think is the US behind 1616 01:40:25,260 --> 01:40:28,920 making three countries and all since the day one it just took 1617 01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:32,130 forever to do it. We're not as adept as we think. And you got 1618 01:40:32,130 --> 01:40:36,540 your your, your Shia segment which is quote will be closely 1619 01:40:36,540 --> 01:40:41,460 allied with Iran and it will prevent a civil war is as far as 1620 01:40:41,460 --> 01:40:45,510 I can tell. And then you have this ISIS ISIL ice whatever you 1621 01:40:45,510 --> 01:40:49,380 want to call it. Group in the middle and then the Kurds which 1622 01:40:49,410 --> 01:40:50,460 with our protection 1623 01:40:50,490 --> 01:40:54,330 are just pumping oil, pumping oil, they are the the attendants 1624 01:40:54,330 --> 01:40:55,320 of the gas station, 1625 01:40:55,559 --> 01:40:57,869 there's some other oil wells outside of that area that they 1626 01:40:58,079 --> 01:40:59,729 guys can make money on. plenty more 1627 01:40:59,730 --> 01:41:03,960 to do. But it is also really about the rub what we call Rob 1628 01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:09,120 realization. Now, Hayden was this morning, I'm getting ready 1629 01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:10,980 for 10 minutes before showtime. 1630 01:41:11,070 --> 01:41:13,860 And by the way, it was just to continue my thought Yeah, the 1631 01:41:13,860 --> 01:41:18,270 ISIS ISIL thing actually becomes a very interesting buffer state. 1632 01:41:18,690 --> 01:41:21,030 Absolutely it each way, the 1633 01:41:21,090 --> 01:41:25,350 Shia and the Kurds you know, the because the you don't want the 1634 01:41:25,410 --> 01:41:31,230 Iranians who are who are already rich with oil impinging on that 1635 01:41:31,230 --> 01:41:32,460 any of that action? Oh, 1636 01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:38,940 this is this is a pretty good plan. It's bloody and it doesn't 1637 01:41:38,970 --> 01:41:44,280 behoove a lot of people but it's a pretty good plan. And so we 1638 01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,940 know that Hayden, former NSA Director, former director of the 1639 01:41:47,940 --> 01:41:53,010 CIA, right, the wrong criminal work with the real deal has been 1640 01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:56,220 out promoting. Did you know that he was a part of the group now 1641 01:41:56,220 --> 01:42:00,270 the the Chertoff Group, I didn't realize he was really, he's a 1642 01:42:00,300 --> 01:42:01,050 main, 1643 01:42:01,380 --> 01:42:03,780 I thought we knew this. Well, that 1644 01:42:03,780 --> 01:42:07,500 we just remind ourselves, okay, I think we know this, but he has 1645 01:42:07,500 --> 01:42:11,340 been pushed into propagating the message. 1646 01:42:11,370 --> 01:42:14,520 Yeah, no, he's been pushed into duty as punishment. 1647 01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:18,270 I think he has like kiddie porn or something in his background. 1648 01:42:18,300 --> 01:42:23,730 When I look at this guy, I just, he's so creepy. And I can't I 1649 01:42:23,730 --> 01:42:25,920 have no evidence. He just he's creepy each 1650 01:42:26,490 --> 01:42:30,060 evening. It's because of his I think he's in the penalty box. 1651 01:42:30,060 --> 01:42:32,460 And he's being made to do all this extra work. This is a lot 1652 01:42:32,460 --> 01:42:36,030 of work to do. He's not pushing a book. He's not going no, no, 1653 01:42:36,060 --> 01:42:38,310 no, if you're going to be hitting it hitting this circuit, 1654 01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:42,060 generally speaking, especially if you show up on Fox, you have 1655 01:42:42,060 --> 01:42:45,030 a book to sell. And it's all part of your book, sales, 1656 01:42:45,030 --> 01:42:48,990 product promotion, you don't just come on, and Yak away like 1657 01:42:48,990 --> 01:42:51,120 this, unless you're an official spokesperson. Well, 1658 01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:55,890 he is showing up on CNN all the time. So and he is pushing a 1659 01:42:55,890 --> 01:42:58,980 message that would be very familiar and comfortable to the 1660 01:42:59,370 --> 01:43:04,020 people who believe in Fox News as being the message. And people 1661 01:43:04,020 --> 01:43:07,500 I think are very comfortable now, which crosses all the lines 1662 01:43:07,620 --> 01:43:10,860 with the message he is portraying on CNN, what he said 1663 01:43:10,860 --> 01:43:12,930 this morning, I think there were a number of very important 1664 01:43:12,930 --> 01:43:16,620 things, particularly as it comes to Syria. And again, this is 1665 01:43:16,620 --> 01:43:20,130 just showing you Syria. So Saudi Arabia, you're on deck. That's 1666 01:43:20,130 --> 01:43:24,330 what West said, Syria, we are going in, and he has a couple of 1667 01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:28,680 very, again, just these lovely, lovely words and combo words, 1668 01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:28,890 what 1669 01:43:28,890 --> 01:43:31,230 is the direct threat to them. And it's my impression that 1670 01:43:31,230 --> 01:43:34,590 there's a debate inside the intelligence community as to how 1671 01:43:34,770 --> 01:43:38,760 imminent that threat is you have a school of thought that that 1672 01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:41,520 they certainly aspire to attack the American homeland, they have 1673 01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:44,820 a number of Americans among their ranks, perhaps 100. This 1674 01:43:44,820 --> 01:43:45,180 is a 1675 01:43:45,180 --> 01:43:46,710 script, just so you know, this 1676 01:43:46,710 --> 01:43:49,050 is right. And that is part of the script. And it's part of the 1677 01:43:49,050 --> 01:43:53,370 meme that there's at least 100 Americans. Now we have an NSA 1678 01:43:53,370 --> 01:43:56,490 that keeps track them every individual, we should actually 1679 01:43:56,490 --> 01:43:59,100 have their cell phone numbers if we're any good at what we claim 1680 01:43:59,100 --> 01:44:02,790 to be doing. So this is and this is nonsense. There's, you know, 1681 01:44:02,790 --> 01:44:05,430 the Okay, maybe there's 100, if there are 100 Americans involved 1682 01:44:05,430 --> 01:44:10,440 in this, there are 100 American spies, or at least 50. Let's be 1683 01:44:10,440 --> 01:44:13,740 realistic about this. This is the perfect opportunity. 1684 01:44:13,830 --> 01:44:17,340 Again, this is a script and I want you to listen to Hayden's 1685 01:44:17,340 --> 01:44:18,150 initial response, what 1686 01:44:18,150 --> 01:44:20,520 is the direct threat to them? And it's my impression that 1687 01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:23,850 there's a debate inside the intelligence community as to how 1688 01:44:24,030 --> 01:44:28,020 imminent that threat is you have a school of thought that that 1689 01:44:28,020 --> 01:44:30,780 they certainly aspire to attack the American homeland. They have 1690 01:44:30,780 --> 01:44:34,410 a number of Americans among their ranks, perhaps 100. But 1691 01:44:34,410 --> 01:44:38,520 the FBI put out a report this week saying no credible threats 1692 01:44:38,700 --> 01:44:43,320 yet. Where do you stand in that debate? Is it more imminent or 1693 01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:44,010 less imminent? 1694 01:44:44,940 --> 01:44:49,170 Just pause. We know there has always been there is a definite 1695 01:44:49,170 --> 01:44:53,670 strife between intelligence sources. Here is CIA versus FBI 1696 01:44:53,670 --> 01:44:56,670 FBI is trying to undercut them Hayden is of course not going to 1697 01:44:56,670 --> 01:44:59,370 have any of that very important things that are happening. The 1698 01:44:59,370 --> 01:45:00,540 script is right Is this a 1699 01:45:00,540 --> 01:45:02,790 future threat or clear and present danger? 1700 01:45:03,060 --> 01:45:07,530 Well, Jim, you you've outlined it perfectly. He hasn't said 1701 01:45:07,530 --> 01:45:10,080 anything. He asked the 1702 01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:13,560 question, is it this or that you've outlined it perfectly? 1703 01:45:14,310 --> 01:45:18,150 This is a question of timing, not of inevitability, not not of 1704 01:45:18,150 --> 01:45:22,350 intent. And right now, I think it's fair to say that ISIS is a 1705 01:45:22,350 --> 01:45:26,130 very powerful local terrorist organization, and probably a 1706 01:45:26,130 --> 01:45:30,150 reasonably powerful regional terrorist organization. But it's 1707 01:45:30,150 --> 01:45:33,390 one that has global ambitions. And it has the tools as you 1708 01:45:33,390 --> 01:45:37,110 suggested, American passport holders or European passport 1709 01:45:37,110 --> 01:45:42,750 holders expressed the intent. And so if it's not Tuesday, it's 1710 01:45:42,750 --> 01:45:44,670 at a time and place of their choosing. 1711 01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:46,530 It's if it's not Tuesday, 1712 01:45:46,950 --> 01:45:48,120 what's happening on Tuesday? 1713 01:45:48,150 --> 01:45:49,020 I don't know I'm landing in 1714 01:45:50,220 --> 01:45:54,450 California. That wouldn't be the guy used to get his hamburgers 1715 01:45:54,450 --> 01:45:56,220 on payback on Tuesday clearly 1716 01:45:56,220 --> 01:45:58,380 said if it's not Tuesday, so when he said 1717 01:45:58,830 --> 01:46:02,850 Tuesday, it's at a time and place of their choosing in order 1718 01:46:02,850 --> 01:46:05,730 to come probably sooner rather than later. Look, Jim, they're 1719 01:46:05,730 --> 01:46:06,570 in a competition. 1720 01:46:06,839 --> 01:46:08,639 What is Tuesday now without kind 1721 01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:11,010 of platter right? sooner than later? 1722 01:46:11,250 --> 01:46:13,650 sooner than later? Not too. That could be Monday. 1723 01:46:13,860 --> 01:46:17,700 If it's not Tuesday, it's at a time and place of their 1724 01:46:17,700 --> 01:46:20,640 choosing, and what will come probably sooner rather than 1725 01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:23,610 later. Look, Jim they're in a competition now with al Qaeda 1726 01:46:23,610 --> 01:46:25,740 prime the prime. 1727 01:46:26,190 --> 01:46:27,990 It's al Qaeda prime. 1728 01:46:28,349 --> 01:46:32,399 It's like Amazon Prime. Oh, yeah. I'm told you this is 1729 01:46:32,399 --> 01:46:34,379 great. This is unbelievable. 1730 01:46:34,380 --> 01:46:34,560 It's 1731 01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:35,700 great stuff. It's 1732 01:46:39,630 --> 01:46:40,920 sooner rather than later. 1733 01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:44,850 It's gotta be rolling his eyes at the script. Just read it. 1734 01:46:45,450 --> 01:46:47,670 Amazon prime sorry al Qaeda prime 1735 01:46:49,590 --> 01:46:53,760 Oh, free delivery. Free delivery of your IED without kind of 1736 01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:54,210 pride 1737 01:46:56,610 --> 01:46:58,290 Jim they're in a competition now with 1738 01:47:02,460 --> 01:47:07,710 people we're laughing because it is it is hilarious. This none of 1739 01:47:07,710 --> 01:47:12,120 this is true. Yeah, some asshole may shoot some off to make the 1740 01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:15,780 point but it's really not true. Just people die all the time. I 1741 01:47:15,780 --> 01:47:16,110 hate it 1742 01:47:16,140 --> 01:47:19,320 I'm sorry, sir. Official lies the the things 1743 01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:22,170 have people die in car accidents and bathroom, they fall in the 1744 01:47:22,170 --> 01:47:25,650 tub. People die and someone's gonna happen and some will die. 1745 01:47:25,650 --> 01:47:28,950 But the fear the terrorism that these people are throwing on EU 1746 01:47:28,950 --> 01:47:33,120 citizens. It's disgusting. It is it is and do not be afraid. It's 1747 01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:35,640 just bullcrap. You have to laugh at what they're saying. 1748 01:47:35,850 --> 01:47:40,350 If it's not Tuesday, it's at a time and place of their choosing 1749 01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,740 and overcome probably sooner rather than later. Look, Jim, 1750 01:47:43,740 --> 01:47:51,000 they're in a competition now with al Qaeda prime. Folks along 1751 01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:55,260 the Afghan Pakistan border and there's no way more powerful to 1752 01:47:55,590 --> 01:47:59,160 express their street credentials among the jihadist community 1753 01:47:59,190 --> 01:47:59,970 street cred. 1754 01:48:00,090 --> 01:48:01,830 jihadist community. 1755 01:48:04,440 --> 01:48:08,880 It's a new social network, jihadist community. God has 1756 01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,970 given you they have a community center at said jihadist 1757 01:48:11,970 --> 01:48:12,450 community 1758 01:48:12,480 --> 01:48:14,490 that a successful attack against the West. 1759 01:48:14,849 --> 01:48:17,699 So to be clear, you're saying it's just a matter of time right 1760 01:48:17,729 --> 01:48:20,669 before ISIS attempts to attack or tax the US homeland just to 1761 01:48:20,670 --> 01:48:23,730 make sure I want to make sure we make sure we got that clear. 1762 01:48:23,940 --> 01:48:24,510 Listen to her. 1763 01:48:24,540 --> 01:48:27,300 I think so. And certainly certainly the West in general, 1764 01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:31,830 of course, and Americans and American interest in the region 1765 01:48:31,890 --> 01:48:34,530 right now are at risk. You know, we've we've kind of 1766 01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:37,890 underestimated our opponents in the past. We certainly did that 1767 01:48:37,890 --> 01:48:41,610 we lacked imagination with 911 we lacked imagination. 1768 01:48:42,390 --> 01:48:45,630 They did lacked imagination, because they forgot to hit weta 1769 01:48:46,830 --> 01:48:51,420 flame and they forgot to have some kind of you know video of 1770 01:48:51,420 --> 01:48:55,380 of a plane hitting the Pentagon. We lacked some imagination 1771 01:48:55,500 --> 01:48:59,640 ever came up a couple of questions. One is he 1772 01:49:00,060 --> 01:49:02,280 says oh doesn't stop that doesn't stop this green 1773 01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:04,920 belt. We kind of did that with al Qaeda in the Arabian 1774 01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:05,460 Peninsula. 1775 01:49:05,490 --> 01:49:08,760 We kind of had some imagined it says what? Let me replay this. 1776 01:49:09,180 --> 01:49:13,200 We didn't have imagination. But then we did have imagination 1777 01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:16,800 with al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula with AQAP 1778 01:49:17,130 --> 01:49:23,160 drones. No, no, no, no that guy Matala yes yes yes yes imagine 1779 01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:27,180 to do right now. Okay, we got some of the bag boys you got a 1780 01:49:27,180 --> 01:49:30,300 meeting here we're gonna put some we're gonna put a bomb in 1781 01:49:30,300 --> 01:49:31,500 his guy's crotch. 1782 01:49:32,370 --> 01:49:35,430 This is great fight this is awesome. This is what a good 1783 01:49:35,430 --> 01:49:36,180 idea 1784 01:49:36,269 --> 01:49:41,099 or imagine a div how are we gonna get him through the the 1785 01:49:42,059 --> 01:49:43,049 Chi pull how we 1786 01:49:43,050 --> 01:49:46,800 call a Dutch they'll do anything for us get some guy get an 1787 01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:47,640 ambassador 1788 01:49:47,700 --> 01:49:50,580 metal detectors gonna catch this probably are one of the extreme 1789 01:49:50,580 --> 01:49:51,780 issues what are you gonna do about it? 1790 01:49:52,259 --> 01:49:54,239 We're gonna do nothing about it. We're just gonna it doesn't have 1791 01:49:54,239 --> 01:49:56,309 to go through what he didn't go through the metal detector. We 1792 01:49:56,309 --> 01:49:59,309 just we have our we have our agent at Schiphol Airport. Get 1793 01:49:59,309 --> 01:50:02,459 them on the plane. without a passport, you can do that. Well, 1794 01:50:02,459 --> 01:50:06,779 we can tell you. Oh, okay, well, let's do that right and when one 1795 01:50:06,779 --> 01:50:10,169 will have this guy lightest crush, this is gonna be so cool. 1796 01:50:10,259 --> 01:50:13,439 We didn't have to blow anything up. Just as crunch on fire is 1797 01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:17,189 cool enough. That's imaginative. And now Now you're talking 1798 01:50:17,189 --> 01:50:18,269 imagination rest. 1799 01:50:18,300 --> 01:50:21,270 You know, we've, we've kind of underestimated our opponents in 1800 01:50:21,270 --> 01:50:24,960 the past. We certainly did that we lacked imagination with 911. 1801 01:50:25,290 --> 01:50:28,380 We kind of did that with al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. 1802 01:50:28,620 --> 01:50:31,050 We knew they were up to something we just didn't think 1803 01:50:31,050 --> 01:50:34,560 it was going to be a Nigerian on an airliner over Detroit 1804 01:50:34,590 --> 01:50:38,550 with his pants on fire. No, no, no, we knew because we came up 1805 01:50:38,550 --> 01:50:43,080 with that. We gave that guy a raise. That was a good one. 1806 01:50:43,110 --> 01:50:47,250 Well, we've got the same dynamic here. But it's not just about 1807 01:50:47,250 --> 01:50:51,570 defense. It's not just about keeping the right people off of 1808 01:50:51,570 --> 01:50:55,530 aircraft. It's about offense. It's about disabling 1809 01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:56,850 How could it be the right people? 1810 01:50:57,450 --> 01:51:00,780 The right people on offense, we shoot them at 1811 01:51:01,140 --> 01:51:03,630 shouldn't. It shouldn't be the wrong people. You keep off of 1812 01:51:03,630 --> 01:51:12,180 Air aircraft. The horses, that was good catch. People off, keep 1813 01:51:12,180 --> 01:51:15,150 the right people off here. Yeah, like law abiding citizens on a 1814 01:51:15,150 --> 01:51:17,910 don't fly list. That's what we do 1815 01:51:18,030 --> 01:51:22,500 over Detroit. Well, we've got the same dynamic here. But it's 1816 01:51:22,500 --> 01:51:26,730 not just about defense. It's not just about keeping the right 1817 01:51:26,730 --> 01:51:30,750 people off of aircraft. It's about offense. It's about 1818 01:51:30,750 --> 01:51:35,250 disabling offense, ISIS, it's about making them more worried 1819 01:51:35,250 --> 01:51:39,360 more concerned with protecting their own survivability rather 1820 01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:41,220 than threatening yours or mine 1821 01:51:41,759 --> 01:51:45,299 is the US ability to confront ISIS. 1822 01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:47,250 Oh, crap. I'm sorry. 1823 01:51:48,900 --> 01:51:51,720 Guys reading from a script. He is on shoot. I'm sorry, 1824 01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:53,970 something you lose the rest of it. No, I have it. I just have 1825 01:51:53,970 --> 01:52:01,710 to for some reason. Hold on. Let me just bring it back. at all I 1826 01:52:01,710 --> 01:52:04,860 just wanted to get I just wanted to get the last bit and if you 1827 01:52:04,860 --> 01:52:09,270 just give me one second, I'll bring it up. Because that really 1828 01:52:09,270 --> 01:52:12,660 goes to the to the Syria campaign. Here we go play like 1829 01:52:12,660 --> 01:52:19,740 this. It should work. Well, just bear with me for a second. It 1830 01:52:19,740 --> 01:52:23,370 only takes a second. Sometimes you're looking for no sometimes 1831 01:52:23,370 --> 01:52:24,030 I'm playing clips. 1832 01:52:24,630 --> 01:52:26,340 Yes, I do that. Here we go. And 1833 01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:29,370 relying cooperating with our friends in the region. The 1834 01:52:29,370 --> 01:52:33,990 Jordanians, the Turks, and the Kurds to get ground truth that 1835 01:52:33,990 --> 01:52:35,940 enables us to conduct his ground 1836 01:52:35,940 --> 01:52:39,270 truth by the way, not ground troops but ground truth. For 1837 01:52:39,690 --> 01:52:42,690 ground truth. He said ground truth Yeah, not ground troops 1838 01:52:42,690 --> 01:52:46,440 but ground truth. And we need ground truth in Syria. 1839 01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:47,640 Interesting, dangerous 1840 01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:51,360 as that might be, and, and relying cooperating with our 1841 01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:54,690 friends in the region, the Jordanians, the Turks, and the 1842 01:52:54,690 --> 01:52:59,580 Kurds to get ground truth that enables us to conduct targeted 1843 01:52:59,580 --> 01:53:02,910 operations with the kind of exquisite intelligence, that 1844 01:53:02,910 --> 01:53:03,600 exquisite 1845 01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:04,620 intelligence. 1846 01:53:04,890 --> 01:53:08,220 Wow, we need. We have another show title, loaded into 1847 01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:12,570 exquisite intelligence. It was wizard but you know, that 1848 01:53:12,570 --> 01:53:13,200 intelligence 1849 01:53:13,230 --> 01:53:14,520 is exquisite. 1850 01:53:14,670 --> 01:53:18,720 But these guys have successfully dumbed down the population to 1851 01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:22,680 the words awesome, amazing and weird. And they're out there 1852 01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:25,920 using exquisite and get these guys are good, 1853 01:53:26,250 --> 01:53:29,580 really requires. I agree with you or not up to the level of 1854 01:53:29,580 --> 01:53:33,600 exquisite over Syria. We're not bad again, the line of 1855 01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:37,020 confrontation in Iraq right now, as you can see, by the success 1856 01:53:37,110 --> 01:53:38,820 of the strikes today, okay. 1857 01:53:38,970 --> 01:53:39,840 And then yeah. 1858 01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:44,130 Yes, I have many more good things. But yes, please go. 1859 01:53:44,460 --> 01:53:47,280 Okay, a couple of things that I've noticed that with this new 1860 01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:49,830 cycle and what's been going on, and with guys like this coming 1861 01:53:49,830 --> 01:53:52,350 out and telling us kind of what, you know, the what the official 1862 01:53:52,350 --> 01:53:57,000 line is, early on, in this whole deal, there was a targeting of 1863 01:53:57,000 --> 01:54:01,320 Germany as a problematic situation, because there's all 1864 01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:02,820 these terrorists. That's 1865 01:54:02,820 --> 01:54:04,230 where the 911 terrorist, 1866 01:54:04,230 --> 01:54:07,500 and they were all coming, they all were going back, they're 1867 01:54:07,500 --> 01:54:10,500 going back from the little battles with German passports, 1868 01:54:10,710 --> 01:54:13,470 which allow them to come straight into the United States 1869 01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:17,910 to bomb us. And we saw we have clip after clip of pointing out 1870 01:54:17,940 --> 01:54:22,770 Germany, naming Germany. This has been dumped. This has been 1871 01:54:22,770 --> 01:54:24,810 dropped. For some reason. We don't know what the reason is. 1872 01:54:25,140 --> 01:54:27,930 But there was it's been dropped. It was used as a pressure point 1873 01:54:27,930 --> 01:54:31,530 that has been dropped. Now it's Americans 100 Americans exactly, 1874 01:54:31,710 --> 01:54:33,540 that are going to come back and they're the ones that are going 1875 01:54:33,540 --> 01:54:35,160 to come here to bomb as the Germans are routed. 1876 01:54:35,610 --> 01:54:41,940 Although I must say that a lot is also being moved towards the 1877 01:54:41,940 --> 01:54:45,390 UK and the Netherlands and people are getting the message 1878 01:54:45,390 --> 01:54:49,920 that these jihadist have European passports. And because 1879 01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:54,900 there is no there is no border control. They can freely float 1880 01:54:54,900 --> 01:54:55,530 anywhere they want. 1881 01:54:55,590 --> 01:54:58,290 But I'm still concentrating on Germany because I think this was 1882 01:54:58,290 --> 01:55:01,110 part of a quid pro quo that allowed Germany to take part in 1883 01:55:01,110 --> 01:55:03,900 the sanctions against Russia. Were putting the pressure on us 1884 01:55:03,930 --> 01:55:07,020 just to get those guys to knuckle under. And they did. And 1885 01:55:07,020 --> 01:55:08,580 I think that's all that was 1886 01:55:08,610 --> 01:55:11,730 where Russia is now saying no, Germany is saying no more new 1887 01:55:11,730 --> 01:55:12,510 sanctions. 1888 01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:15,600 Well, that's because the farmers and everybody all throughout the 1889 01:55:15,630 --> 01:55:19,230 EU are complaining I have a clip about that. Okay, but let's go 1890 01:55:19,230 --> 01:55:22,590 back to the other thought of mine, which is that Saudi Arabia 1891 01:55:22,590 --> 01:55:26,160 being named as a you better get involved somehow, because these 1892 01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:29,460 guys are gonna go after Mecca and Medina, which makes nothing 1893 01:55:29,460 --> 01:55:30,090 but sense. 1894 01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:32,580 If you want the cap of the caliphate, then you need the 1895 01:55:32,580 --> 01:55:35,250 whole deal you need to do once a caliphate, you need those to 1896 01:55:35,250 --> 01:55:38,760 town, which includes by the way of Lebanon and Israel, 1897 01:55:39,690 --> 01:55:43,020 for the caliphate, but they're not going to do that. But what 1898 01:55:43,020 --> 01:55:45,360 they really need are those two towns, those other things are 1899 01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:50,400 secondary, that Israel's less important than Mecca. 1900 01:55:50,730 --> 01:55:53,640 biohybrid and whereas Mecca on the map, 1901 01:55:53,700 --> 01:55:57,000 it's in Saudi Arabia toward I believe it's toward the eastern 1902 01:55:57,000 --> 01:56:01,980 part of Saudi Arabia. And it's where the poor let's take a look 1903 01:56:01,980 --> 01:56:04,650 at our maps and when we're Mecca is good everybody 1904 01:56:04,650 --> 01:56:06,990 and the way you do this is very simple these days of the 1905 01:56:06,990 --> 01:56:12,780 Internet map of Mecca. 1906 01:56:14,190 --> 01:56:15,990 Okay, it is oh, here we go. 1907 01:56:20,670 --> 01:56:26,580 It's a sacred destination. And it is said above to Heath it's 1908 01:56:26,580 --> 01:56:29,610 about in the middle of Saudi Arabia on the west coast there 1909 01:56:29,610 --> 01:56:31,800 by the by the Red Sea. 1910 01:56:32,220 --> 01:56:35,370 And it is okay. Right. So it's on the West Coast and Medina is 1911 01:56:35,370 --> 01:56:36,120 just north and 1912 01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:40,200 it's right across the river from Sudan. This is also I've noticed 1913 01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:42,120 Andy, yes, I've noticed. Yes. 1914 01:56:42,420 --> 01:56:45,900 So they have to take, they'd be coming in that you'd have to 1915 01:56:45,900 --> 01:56:49,290 first to get to get Oman and some of these other Yemen. And 1916 01:56:49,290 --> 01:56:53,970 then they'd have Okay, rock is at the North. Okay, they'd come 1917 01:56:53,970 --> 01:56:55,560 in straight down with that. But 1918 01:56:55,830 --> 01:56:59,760 they can go up from Yemen. we've ramped up in Yemen, Yemen, 1919 01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:01,710 they're in Iraq with, isn't 1920 01:57:01,710 --> 01:57:02,940 it all the same dudes? 1921 01:57:03,660 --> 01:57:06,960 Well, I think the Yemenis guys are diverted? No, that's the yam 1922 01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:09,780 we don't have the control that we're assuming that is an 1923 01:57:09,780 --> 01:57:14,100 American operation in Iraq. And they have to come straight down. 1924 01:57:14,130 --> 01:57:18,720 There's a lot of desert. And it's a lot of desert, which you 1925 01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:22,230 can take that over inside the most of the Iraq area that they 1926 01:57:22,230 --> 01:57:24,540 took over, as all deserts that you can see by the map that I 1927 01:57:24,660 --> 01:57:27,900 included in the newsletter, yes, it has a shows the dense 1928 01:57:27,900 --> 01:57:30,930 population density. And most of these guys, they've taken over a 1929 01:57:30,930 --> 01:57:33,900 bunch of desert areas. And then in Saudi Arabia, I'm looking at 1930 01:57:33,900 --> 01:57:37,110 a map that shows an Empty Quarter over in the in the 1931 01:57:37,260 --> 01:57:43,350 south, east by the United Arab Emirates anyway, so they could, 1932 01:57:44,340 --> 01:57:46,860 they can make a move on this, it uses a lot of desert to get 1933 01:57:46,860 --> 01:57:47,700 through the Strait if 1934 01:57:47,910 --> 01:57:50,610 they gotta go straight down to funky cold Medina. 1935 01:57:52,110 --> 01:57:53,640 Or they can just hop on a boat. 1936 01:57:55,320 --> 01:57:57,690 It's not gonna work, you're gonna have to just take land 1937 01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:00,900 that could open the Stargate in the Gulf of Aden if they get too 1938 01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:02,520 hungry for fish. 1939 01:58:04,290 --> 01:58:06,870 Okay, move on, I'm liking your analysis, 1940 01:58:06,930 --> 01:58:09,660 let's just say that this is part of the scheme. We've already 1941 01:58:09,660 --> 01:58:11,760 warned Saudi Arabia, they gotta get their act together. And 1942 01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:14,670 they're not going to do anything with course. And so we can show 1943 01:58:14,670 --> 01:58:18,540 I think it's a possibility that these guys can take because 1944 01:58:18,540 --> 01:58:20,940 Saudi Arabia is due to be realized. 1945 01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:24,270 Like nice yeah, there and yeah, and they're just gonna say 1946 01:58:24,270 --> 01:58:28,770 whatever. Because Riyadh or as you'd like to say, radio, radio 1947 01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:32,070 is nowhere near ready. Yeah. This Oh, nuts. Oh, not even the 1948 01:58:32,070 --> 01:58:34,170 line of fire. It's more to the east. It's not, 1949 01:58:34,620 --> 01:58:38,400 it's not in the line of fire at all. No. Facts, all the those 1950 01:58:38,760 --> 01:58:41,910 producing spots, I think over on that side to the Medina and 1951 01:58:41,910 --> 01:58:44,190 Mecca in the middle of nowhere. That's all good. It's good. It's 1952 01:58:44,190 --> 01:58:48,300 good. I think this will work. It's very good. Anyway, and it's 1953 01:58:48,300 --> 01:58:48,900 exquisite. 1954 01:58:49,620 --> 01:58:53,850 Well, exquisite when it comes to intelligence. It's completely 1955 01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:55,620 excluded now. But you've been 1956 01:58:55,620 --> 01:58:59,100 brought into play with this with this commentary from Clark. So I 1957 01:58:59,100 --> 01:59:03,660 think Mark is like the he's the he's a jerk to people in the 1958 01:59:03,660 --> 01:59:06,360 know what there's gonna have putting messages in there. That 1959 01:59:06,360 --> 01:59:09,090 code in this case was mentioning Saudi Arabia. 1960 01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:16,020 Now we have, but I've thought the Hagel and Dempsey show was 1961 01:59:16,020 --> 01:59:23,460 exquisite as well. And this was done at the Pentagon, in the 1962 01:59:23,490 --> 01:59:26,190 Pentagon Briefing Room, which includes a whole bunch of 1963 01:59:26,190 --> 01:59:31,350 different types of questioners with different scripts. And 1964 01:59:31,350 --> 01:59:36,600 Hagel, as we know, is he he's kind of like the dad on Happy 1965 01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:40,890 Days, you know, he's just, he's there, and whatever he says, 1966 01:59:40,890 --> 01:59:44,670 make sense in the story, but he was hyping it up a little bit, 1967 01:59:44,670 --> 01:59:47,820 and I kind of liked where he was going because he pulled out 1968 01:59:47,850 --> 01:59:50,460 well, he's not a great actor, but he pulled out a lot of 1969 01:59:50,460 --> 01:59:54,060 things that really accentuated what the message is about how 1970 01:59:54,060 --> 01:59:57,690 incredibly dangerous and how we of course, have to start doing 1971 01:59:57,690 --> 02:00:00,900 things. i There may even be something about Saudi Arabian 1972 02:00:00,900 --> 02:00:04,680 here, but I just wanted to play these two clips from the Hagel 1973 02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:07,380 and Dempsey show. Hagel, of course, is the Secretary of 1974 02:00:07,380 --> 02:00:12,180 Defense for the United States, a complete moron. And General 1975 02:00:12,180 --> 02:00:17,010 Dempsey is the chief, the Chief of Staff. He's the he's in 1976 02:00:17,010 --> 02:00:21,270 charge of all the all the generals. And he's a leprechaun, 1977 02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:24,330 is how I don't think he's not like, it didn't he may 1978 02:00:24,330 --> 02:00:27,750 be a little us that Leverkusen that we've gotten different 1979 02:00:27,750 --> 02:00:33,060 input on him. One is that supposedly, he's a good guy that 1980 02:00:33,060 --> 02:00:36,150 behind closed doors, saves the country from doing a lot of 1981 02:00:36,150 --> 02:00:40,380 stupid stuff. I think he's given up I think, I now did let me 1982 02:00:40,380 --> 02:00:44,640 finish. Because it's possible. He's got nothing but flak, 1983 02:00:44,670 --> 02:00:46,920 especially from the right, and from the left 1984 02:00:46,920 --> 02:00:50,190 hand and from his own people. Yeah. So 1985 02:00:50,190 --> 02:00:53,850 the military is, it's a lot of flack for actually not I believe 1986 02:00:53,850 --> 02:00:57,030 by not because I don't think he goes by the, or wants to go by 1987 02:00:57,030 --> 02:01:00,300 the Obama script. I think he's probably thinking 1988 02:01:00,330 --> 02:01:03,180 more like, I'm sorry, you think this isn't Obama script, 1989 02:01:03,870 --> 02:01:07,380 or whatever, okay, whoever the shadow government script, the 1990 02:01:07,380 --> 02:01:10,170 CIA script, or whatever script, it is somebody script that he 1991 02:01:10,170 --> 02:01:13,350 doesn't like, and he goes out of his way. And I think he's got 1992 02:01:13,350 --> 02:01:16,800 Obama's ear a lot of times and because Obama is being badgered 1993 02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:18,960 by everybody, and he doesn't know what he's doing, 1994 02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:22,350 apparently. And so so that they'd like to get rid of 1995 02:01:22,350 --> 02:01:26,940 Dempsey, because I believe he's a roadblock. To the schemes are, 1996 02:01:26,970 --> 02:01:27,450 well, he 1997 02:01:27,450 --> 02:01:31,680 is laying back really Cavalier, he's, he his whole body language 1998 02:01:31,680 --> 02:01:34,410 is saying, Yeah, I'll do whatever. I'll just say whatever 1999 02:01:34,410 --> 02:01:38,130 you want. Oh, yeah, he's just his body language is disengaged. 2000 02:01:38,160 --> 02:01:40,770 I think he's threatened that they're threatening his job. 2001 02:01:41,340 --> 02:01:44,640 I get a different vibe I get I don't care anymore vibe from 2002 02:01:44,640 --> 02:01:46,050 him. Okay, well, I 2003 02:01:46,050 --> 02:01:49,230 don't have a visual here. So play is that the calculation 2004 02:01:49,230 --> 02:01:53,880 though, that ISIL presents a 911 level threat to the United 2005 02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:54,480 States. I'll 2006 02:01:55,620 --> 02:02:00,810 ask that the uncredited actor playing a journalist in the 2007 02:02:00,810 --> 02:02:01,530 front row. 2008 02:02:01,680 --> 02:02:02,490 Wow. 2009 02:02:04,380 --> 02:02:09,870 Jim ISIL is a sophisticated and well funded. Why because any 2010 02:02:10,860 --> 02:02:13,770 bunch of guys on the back of pickup trucks with machine guns, 2011 02:02:14,460 --> 02:02:16,770 remember, sophisticated is that it's 2012 02:02:16,770 --> 02:02:20,220 exquisite. And this is Hegel. And he's going to talk about the 2013 02:02:20,220 --> 02:02:21,990 funding twice, which is fun dates. 2014 02:02:22,710 --> 02:02:29,520 Jim ISIL is a sophisticated and well funded as any group that we 2015 02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:35,250 have seen. They're beyond just a terrorist group. They marry 2016 02:02:35,250 --> 02:02:41,700 ideology, a sophistication of strategic and tactical military 2017 02:02:41,730 --> 02:02:45,300 prowess. They are tremendously well funded. You already 2018 02:02:45,300 --> 02:02:49,860 said that Hegel tremendously well funded which means you have 2019 02:02:49,860 --> 02:02:53,790 an ally of about $500 billion and you go stand on the corner 2020 02:02:53,790 --> 02:02:56,430 and say, Hey, I got a lot of money here who wants to give me 2021 02:02:56,430 --> 02:02:57,330 some weapons? 2022 02:03:00,330 --> 02:03:02,700 And where does that come from? We know where it comes from. 2023 02:03:03,450 --> 02:03:08,040 Oh, this is beyond anything that we've seen. So we must prepare 2024 02:03:08,070 --> 02:03:09,600 for for everything 2025 02:03:09,630 --> 02:03:12,990 and everything. Just for everyone. Prepare for 2026 02:03:12,990 --> 02:03:13,590 everything. 2027 02:03:13,890 --> 02:03:17,400 The only way you do that is you take a cold steely hard look at 2028 02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:20,220 it and and get ready guys. 2029 02:03:21,210 --> 02:03:25,200 I know you take a cold steely hard look at it because 2030 02:03:25,200 --> 02:03:28,950 that's how you ever get this job well 2031 02:03:28,980 --> 02:03:32,610 you know some actors get into the casting couch John you know 2032 02:03:32,610 --> 02:03:36,840 how that works and possibility look the guy reads his lines and 2033 02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:38,580 doesn't bump into furniture it's good enough for 2034 02:03:38,580 --> 02:03:42,900 pair for for everything and the only way you do that is you take 2035 02:03:42,900 --> 02:03:45,960 a cold steely hard look at it and 2036 02:03:45,990 --> 02:03:50,580 and like this guy's ever seen any military action? Yeah, I'm 2037 02:03:50,580 --> 02:03:53,700 gonna go in there and my RPG my Rambo knife get 2038 02:03:53,700 --> 02:03:55,080 ready. Yeah, really need 2039 02:03:55,080 --> 02:04:01,290 to see the dance etc, is in the the number of Europeans and and 2040 02:04:01,320 --> 02:04:06,660 other nationalities who have come to the region to become 2041 02:04:06,660 --> 02:04:10,260 part of that ideology. And those those folks who go home and some 2042 02:04:10,260 --> 02:04:13,950 folks, it's why I have conversations with my European 2043 02:04:13,950 --> 02:04:16,500 colleagues about their southern flank of NATO, which I think is 2044 02:04:16,500 --> 02:04:19,320 actually more threatened in the near term than we are 2045 02:04:19,740 --> 02:04:24,840 nevertheless, because of open borders and an immigration 2046 02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:28,140 issues. It's it's an immediate threat, that is to say the 2047 02:04:28,350 --> 02:04:32,970 fighters who may leave the current fate and migrate home. 2048 02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:38,070 Longer term, it's about ISOs vision, which includes I 2049 02:04:38,070 --> 02:04:41,370 actually call it so here we go right ISIS isas because it's 2050 02:04:41,370 --> 02:04:44,400 easier for me to remember that their long term vision is the 2051 02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:47,580 Islamist state of Iraq and Al Sham and I'll show him includes 2052 02:04:47,580 --> 02:04:51,780 Lebanon, the current state of Israel, Jordan, Iraq, Syria, and 2053 02:04:51,780 --> 02:04:54,870 Kuwait. If they were to achieve that vision, it would 2054 02:04:54,960 --> 02:04:59,700 fundamentally alter the face of the Middle East and create a 2055 02:04:59,700 --> 02:05:02,430 secure are an environment that would certainly threaten us in 2056 02:05:02,430 --> 02:05:03,000 many ways? 2057 02:05:03,480 --> 02:05:08,940 Yeah. Dempsey Yeah. Well, Jared is a little more 2058 02:05:09,300 --> 02:05:12,990 sheave that so far all they've gotten was a lot of desert. 2059 02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:20,580 Calm and this is good. This is good. This is the top military 2060 02:05:20,580 --> 02:05:26,790 dude in the country, both of them. Yeah. Alright, here we go. 2061 02:05:26,820 --> 02:05:33,390 This is a clip to the one I want. I think it is. 2062 02:05:34,830 --> 02:05:42,300 We continue to explore all options regarding ISIL and how 2063 02:05:42,300 --> 02:05:48,150 best we can assist partners in that area, the Middle East, and 2064 02:05:48,150 --> 02:05:53,940 particularly in Iraq, against ISIL. You all know that in the 2065 02:05:54,030 --> 02:05:54,720 presence 2066 02:05:54,750 --> 02:05:56,910 and here he says ISIL right after you said ISIS 2067 02:05:58,110 --> 02:06:05,610 request in OCO for a $5 billion and terrorism fund, there was 2068 02:06:05,610 --> 02:06:08,490 $500 million in there to 2069 02:06:08,519 --> 02:06:13,019 assist. Not Dempsey, though this is behavioral. Yeah, let's 2070 02:06:13,019 --> 02:06:13,469 Hagel. 2071 02:06:13,830 --> 02:06:18,330 Are you sure? Yeah. Okay, well, he is talking now about the 2072 02:06:18,330 --> 02:06:20,940 money, this what the anti counterterrorism fund was 2073 02:06:20,940 --> 02:06:23,670 formed, and he's saying, Oh, we have this money. Does anyone 2074 02:06:23,670 --> 02:06:26,910 want to take this money? We got 5 million 500 million right now. 2075 02:06:26,910 --> 02:06:28,950 544 99. They want to take this money 2076 02:06:28,980 --> 02:06:33,750 proposition. So that's what we're looking at. That's what 2077 02:06:33,750 --> 02:06:36,810 we're doing. And we will continue to stay focused, as I 2078 02:06:36,810 --> 02:06:41,310 said, on on what we're doing now and exploring all options, 2079 02:06:41,310 --> 02:06:41,580 because 2080 02:06:42,360 --> 02:06:45,480 the options that you refer to include airstrikes across the 2081 02:06:45,480 --> 02:06:48,900 border, and like I said, we're we're looking at all options. 2082 02:06:48,990 --> 02:06:51,120 General, do you believe that 2083 02:06:51,780 --> 02:06:56,220 ISIS, have a question, or destroyed without addressing the 2084 02:06:56,220 --> 02:06:59,160 cross border threat from Syria? To your question, 2085 02:06:59,490 --> 02:07:02,850 can they be defeated without addressing that part of their 2086 02:07:02,850 --> 02:07:04,410 organization which resides in 2087 02:07:04,410 --> 02:07:07,350 a clear voice where he goes, voice breaks up, it's, it's 2088 02:07:07,350 --> 02:07:10,560 always got a crack in it, then then he's a Dempsey's clear 2089 02:07:10,590 --> 02:07:13,830 theory. The answer's no, no, that will have to be addressed 2090 02:07:13,830 --> 02:07:16,980 on both sides of what is essentially at this point and 2091 02:07:16,980 --> 02:07:22,710 essentially non essential. It requires a variety of 2092 02:07:22,710 --> 02:07:25,950 instruments, only one small part of which is airstrikes on a 2093 02:07:25,950 --> 02:07:29,250 variety of instruments, a variety of instruments as we 2094 02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:32,520 continue our surgical operation with our exquisite intelligence, 2095 02:07:32,550 --> 02:07:35,910 I'm not predicting those will occur in Syria, at least not by 2096 02:07:35,910 --> 02:07:39,600 the United States of America. But it requires the application 2097 02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:42,450 of all of the tools of national power, diplomatic tools, 2098 02:07:42,480 --> 02:07:45,090 economic information, military, 2099 02:07:45,300 --> 02:07:49,200 and they're beyond just a terrorist group. They met Hi, 2100 02:07:49,200 --> 02:07:49,620 there we go. 2101 02:07:49,770 --> 02:07:51,150 So we've heard that point all right. 2102 02:07:53,070 --> 02:07:54,480 There beyond a terrorist group, 2103 02:07:54,870 --> 02:07:58,650 I have a fun little bit as we as the news media local, 2104 02:07:58,860 --> 02:08:01,170 how many people are buying this bullcrap, 2105 02:08:01,320 --> 02:08:07,770 everybody, everybody people are in people are a general 2106 02:08:07,800 --> 02:08:12,990 genuinely fearful. This is why it is it has to be repeated, 2107 02:08:12,990 --> 02:08:16,110 repeated, repeated, repeated. A lot of stuff doesn't work 2108 02:08:16,110 --> 02:08:20,340 anymore. And I think they are making some mistakes. But 2109 02:08:20,340 --> 02:08:26,100 there's a a good package that I saw this in DC or by saw a news 2110 02:08:26,100 --> 02:08:30,420 report. And then I found this package and Brian, the gay 2111 02:08:30,420 --> 02:08:32,820 Crusader who helped us tremendously with his white 2112 02:08:32,820 --> 02:08:38,520 paper on the the phony baloney Putin homophobia. Now he's in 2113 02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:41,820 Chicago. And he's been doing a lot of work with me over the 2114 02:08:41,820 --> 02:08:45,300 past couple days. And then I don't think he actually sent me 2115 02:08:45,300 --> 02:08:49,560 this clip. But somehow I'm tuned into Chicago and this is an ISIS 2116 02:08:49,560 --> 02:08:52,680 threat. I believe I saw the same picture in front of the or the 2117 02:08:52,680 --> 02:08:56,940 same idea of a cell phone picture with something written 2118 02:08:56,940 --> 02:09:00,240 in Arabic held in front of a building of importance. In this 2119 02:09:00,240 --> 02:09:02,730 case, it was or in the previous case, it was the White House. 2120 02:09:02,850 --> 02:09:06,630 And now it was a a a building in Chicago. And here's the Chicago 2121 02:09:06,630 --> 02:09:11,190 local news, which I think does impact people's thinking when 2122 02:09:11,190 --> 02:09:15,600 it's really your local news team. Were on the street looking 2123 02:09:15,600 --> 02:09:20,820 out for your interests, with weather on the eights. It is 2124 02:09:20,940 --> 02:09:24,300 usually traffic on the eights weather on the sixes, sometimes 2125 02:09:24,300 --> 02:09:28,200 horrible back and forth coming on the heels of the US bombing 2126 02:09:28,200 --> 02:09:32,520 of ISIS forces in Iraq, Facebook and Twitter pages with titles 2127 02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:38,340 like hashtag a message from ISIS to us, and vice versa. There 2128 02:09:38,370 --> 02:09:42,180 near the top of this tit for tat is the gruesome video and 2129 02:09:42,180 --> 02:09:45,870 pictures of journalist James Foley's beheading. He was 2130 02:09:45,870 --> 02:09:50,850 strong, courageous, loving to the end, we we just hardly 2131 02:09:50,850 --> 02:09:54,900 recognize our little boy. I mean, he just, he was just a 2132 02:09:54,900 --> 02:09:55,620 hero. 2133 02:09:55,770 --> 02:09:59,160 As a mother and father's grief goes public. Some Americans 2134 02:09:59,160 --> 02:10:03,180 posted on the sight disgusting Photoshopped images of Islamic 2135 02:10:03,180 --> 02:10:06,810 religious leaders having sex with animals and images of us 2136 02:10:06,810 --> 02:10:08,610 firepower firing harm 2137 02:10:08,610 --> 02:10:12,570 Americans anywhere we do what's necessary to see the justice is 2138 02:10:12,570 --> 02:10:12,930 done 2139 02:10:12,990 --> 02:10:14,520 while we take a cold steely, 2140 02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:18,420 hard look at the tweets shows the ISIS flag in front of the 2141 02:10:18,420 --> 02:10:22,050 White House, but scroll down a little farther and you see a 2142 02:10:22,050 --> 02:10:25,110 picture that might look familiar, not the writing, which 2143 02:10:25,110 --> 02:10:29,040 is in Arabic, but the building in the background. That is on 2144 02:10:29,040 --> 02:10:34,650 Michigan Avenue. 307 North Michigan Avenue to be precise. 2145 02:10:34,890 --> 02:10:38,460 It's at the corner of Michigan and South water and it's called 2146 02:10:38,460 --> 02:10:44,100 The Old Republic building. No cameras in the lobby. What we 2147 02:10:44,100 --> 02:10:47,970 found online was stunning. So we brought it to the attention of 2148 02:10:47,970 --> 02:10:51,360 the building security team. The apparent message in this photo 2149 02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:55,860 dated June 20 of this summer is soldiers of the Islamic State of 2150 02:10:55,860 --> 02:11:00,750 Iraq and Syria will pass from here soon. Other tweets show the 2151 02:11:00,750 --> 02:11:04,680 same two pictures saying we are in your state. We are in your 2152 02:11:04,680 --> 02:11:08,610 cities. We are in your streets. Would you like a pizza you are 2153 02:11:08,610 --> 02:11:13,710 our goals anywhere? More tweets say we are here hashtag America 2154 02:11:13,740 --> 02:11:18,240 near our hashtag target with my guy with a clip 2155 02:11:18,240 --> 02:11:21,240 of that that's a clip you got to do take a look we're here 2156 02:11:21,240 --> 02:11:27,150 hashtag American next year I hashtag target Yeah, that's it 2157 02:11:27,180 --> 02:11:32,040 are our goals anyway, more tweets say we are here hashtag 2158 02:11:32,040 --> 02:11:36,720 America near our hashtag target soon. I know when insecurity as 2159 02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:39,420 the Old Republic building would comment door to the Secret 2160 02:11:39,420 --> 02:11:43,890 Service the FBI or Chicago police. To be clear we don't 2161 02:11:43,890 --> 02:11:47,040 know who took this photo and posted it. No one knows why yet 2162 02:11:47,040 --> 02:11:51,660 this building, but it is part of a battle of words and images 2163 02:11:51,660 --> 02:11:55,350 going viral between apparent ISIS followers and US citizen 2164 02:11:55,350 --> 02:11:55,920 that's around. 2165 02:11:55,950 --> 02:11:59,250 That's right. We are now fighting on Twitter. We are 2166 02:11:59,250 --> 02:12:01,980 fighting ISIS on Twitter boo taken Woods Star 2167 02:12:01,980 --> 02:12:07,710 Trek episodes in the woods to ISIS baby the wood. Oh, okay. 2168 02:12:07,740 --> 02:12:14,010 Now, this brings me to the I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I have to do 2169 02:12:14,010 --> 02:12:19,020 it. This brings me to James Foley. We do not have to 2170 02:12:19,020 --> 02:12:22,680 deconstruct anymore about the video. I think we're very clear 2171 02:12:22,680 --> 02:12:23,310 on now. But 2172 02:12:23,310 --> 02:12:27,840 I would like to play a clip. The Foley clip. Yeah, just so we 2173 02:12:27,840 --> 02:12:29,880 have a background here because I wanted I do have one thing to 2174 02:12:29,880 --> 02:12:30,840 add Of course, 2175 02:12:31,470 --> 02:12:34,200 as you prefer as dealer's choice 2176 02:12:34,410 --> 02:12:36,780 is the backstory about hostage Foley. 2177 02:12:38,820 --> 02:12:40,980 Any other intro was that good enough? That's good enough 2178 02:12:40,980 --> 02:12:41,370 tonight. 2179 02:12:41,370 --> 02:12:44,700 We know ISIS demanded a fortune for journalist James Foley 2180 02:12:44,700 --> 02:12:50,880 before they beheaded him $132 million a ransom the US refused 2181 02:12:50,880 --> 02:12:55,020 to pay. But we've learned the military did try to rescue him. 2182 02:12:56,190 --> 02:12:59,940 The hostages including fully and three others were thought to be 2183 02:12:59,940 --> 02:13:03,930 at this camp. Inside an oil refinery in northern Syria, an 2184 02:13:03,930 --> 02:13:08,250 area controlled by ISIS. Two dozen special operation forces 2185 02:13:08,250 --> 02:13:12,000 commandos dropped from Blackhawk helicopters outfitted with 2186 02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:15,810 stealth technology to avoid detection. With surveillance 2187 02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:16,950 aircraft overhead. 2188 02:13:20,580 --> 02:13:27,360 Stealth technology he was dressed in cloaking shield as he 2189 02:13:27,360 --> 02:13:31,290 repelled from the Black Hawk which has no apparent stealth 2190 02:13:31,290 --> 02:13:32,010 technology. 2191 02:13:33,720 --> 02:13:37,800 Pool crap surveillance aircraft overhead the team swooped in to 2192 02:13:37,800 --> 02:13:41,610 search for the hostages. They encountered ISIS militants and 2193 02:13:41,610 --> 02:13:46,590 engaged in a firefight but the hostages were gone. Several ISIS 2194 02:13:46,590 --> 02:13:50,250 fighters were killed. One American Commando was injured, 2195 02:13:50,310 --> 02:13:53,970 the rest were flown to safety. US officials admit that the 2196 02:13:53,970 --> 02:13:57,990 covert missions launched in early July and was based on good 2197 02:13:57,990 --> 02:14:02,010 but not great intelligence about the location of the hostages. 2198 02:14:02,580 --> 02:14:08,160 Okay, now this is a lie there is there is no official on record. 2199 02:14:08,430 --> 02:14:12,690 They say US officials there's no one on record about this. No one 2200 02:14:12,690 --> 02:14:15,840 not a single person is a lie. 2201 02:14:16,170 --> 02:14:19,170 They had a nice animation. Well, of course that makes it 2202 02:14:19,170 --> 02:14:21,780 believable. Just like wow, they screwed up because they could 2203 02:14:21,780 --> 02:14:22,770 have had sound effects. 2204 02:14:23,250 --> 02:14:26,700 Just like to I started elsewhere. I started with the 2205 02:14:26,700 --> 02:14:30,810 130 $3 million which was irritating to me for a number of 2206 02:14:30,810 --> 02:14:34,500 reasons. One because they could just say it was 100 million 2207 02:14:34,500 --> 02:14:37,320 euros because that's the translation they're making. They 2208 02:14:37,320 --> 02:14:41,520 had to slide to $132 million when when the dollar became a 2209 02:14:41,520 --> 02:14:46,230 bit stronger. Who was this attributed to I was interested 2210 02:14:46,230 --> 02:14:50,910 in knowing and I went to something that I have seen no 2211 02:14:50,910 --> 02:14:56,490 one do other than the narrative. So two things This video is not 2212 02:14:56,490 --> 02:15:00,120 even important if you see the video or not. We all know was 2213 02:15:01,020 --> 02:15:05,040 brutally beheaded. We didn't see it it's not actually there. We 2214 02:15:05,040 --> 02:15:06,870 don't think it happened at all. There's no blood, there's 2215 02:15:06,900 --> 02:15:10,200 nothing but okay, it doesn't matter if this work that's fine. 2216 02:15:10,230 --> 02:15:13,350 The message is clear, brutally beheaded. 2217 02:15:13,500 --> 02:15:16,380 And what's interesting to me about that and then the other 2218 02:15:16,380 --> 02:15:19,650 guy that got another guy now they're gonna be head is it's 2219 02:15:19,650 --> 02:15:22,770 the one guy standing there when almost all the beheadings and 2220 02:15:22,770 --> 02:15:24,270 all the other exhibits 2221 02:15:24,480 --> 02:15:25,620 have gotten lewd going. 2222 02:15:27,660 --> 02:15:30,210 For five people in the background, and then they have 2223 02:15:30,210 --> 02:15:34,770 the Oakland Raider flag is there and all this stuff, and it's a 2224 02:15:34,770 --> 02:15:37,680 different different thing. Now you have one guy standing by 2225 02:15:37,680 --> 02:15:41,070 himself with apparently he could be one, he could be single 2226 02:15:41,070 --> 02:15:44,850 handedly single handing the camera, he may set up shop with 2227 02:15:44,850 --> 02:15:48,270 a camera by himself, like, you know, like cheap productions in 2228 02:15:48,270 --> 02:15:51,240 certain local markets, right? Yep. Well, you do a stand. 2229 02:15:51,510 --> 02:15:54,750 You set it up to frame it and you get in front. And he had to 2230 02:15:54,750 --> 02:15:59,160 switch because he had to put the mic on him. So the way he had 2231 02:15:59,160 --> 02:16:03,030 warming one mic, I had to stop and there's lots of fade cuts 2232 02:16:03,030 --> 02:16:05,280 there. You know, it's not like had a multi camera shoot with a 2233 02:16:05,820 --> 02:16:07,980 little post on with the 2234 02:16:09,270 --> 02:16:11,880 there are real beheading videos out there. And the real 2235 02:16:11,880 --> 02:16:16,680 beheading videos or not with a with a with a lav microphone and 2236 02:16:16,680 --> 02:16:20,010 the guys are not all aware and balaclavas they are and they got 2237 02:16:20,010 --> 02:16:23,130 big ass knives and they cut from the back to the front because 2238 02:16:23,130 --> 02:16:26,490 that's how you kill animals. This is the slaughtering of 2239 02:16:26,490 --> 02:16:30,090 sheep is done this way. I have two emails from two of our 2240 02:16:30,090 --> 02:16:36,030 native Arabian Muslim producers. A number one Hey, if you 2241 02:16:36,030 --> 02:16:38,100 observations about the video since I'm a Native American, 2242 02:16:38,310 --> 02:16:41,880 Native Arab Muslim, and I had my share of crap that I see online 2243 02:16:41,880 --> 02:16:47,550 and TV, the English chap John is left handed. Islamic strict 2244 02:16:47,550 --> 02:16:52,560 teaching discourages the use of the left hand to eat shake hands 2245 02:16:52,620 --> 02:16:56,400 receive something from someone and slaughter animals. It's 2246 02:16:56,400 --> 02:17:00,180 clear that John didn't do it if it happened at all IS militants. 2247 02:17:00,450 --> 02:17:03,180 nostra Free Army and other groups are quite fast in 2248 02:17:03,180 --> 02:17:06,090 chopping heads from other videos I saw they chop heads within 2249 02:17:06,090 --> 02:17:09,450 nine seconds. John's hand is clean when he grabs the other 2250 02:17:09,450 --> 02:17:12,270 journalists at the end of the video. It's quite windy but you 2251 02:17:12,300 --> 02:17:16,650 don't hear the wind John shirt is clean and ironed look at the 2252 02:17:16,650 --> 02:17:19,410 land and the Slippers of Foley it looks like this region it 2253 02:17:19,410 --> 02:17:22,350 looks like the Gulf region sand and the slippers look familiar 2254 02:17:22,350 --> 02:17:26,220 to the ones worn here. Two minutes, two minutes in the 2255 02:17:26,220 --> 02:17:29,940 movie you'll see that Foley is poorly shaved bad Barber. The 2256 02:17:29,940 --> 02:17:32,700 body shot has a knife that looks different than the one John is 2257 02:17:32,700 --> 02:17:37,830 using. And and he said however this ship has sailed is indeed 2258 02:17:37,830 --> 02:17:41,550 in Arabic saying which we had questioned I think the left hand 2259 02:17:41,550 --> 02:17:46,110 and he did use his knife in the left hand is very very damning 2260 02:17:46,110 --> 02:17:49,980 evidence. Then we have Ahmed who comes in with more and native 2261 02:17:49,980 --> 02:17:53,850 analysis. I listen to episode 645 In your commentary about the 2262 02:17:53,850 --> 02:17:56,820 video and the President's speech about ISIS as a person of Middle 2263 02:17:56,820 --> 02:17:59,550 Eastern descent who speak fluid Arabic and who follows lots of 2264 02:17:59,550 --> 02:18:07,140 news and shows a Middle Eastern TV this is why we are they I 2265 02:18:07,140 --> 02:18:10,020 want to point out a few things. One I did not personally watch 2266 02:18:10,020 --> 02:18:12,810 Foley's beheading video, but I heard you and John say they used 2267 02:18:12,810 --> 02:18:16,050 a pen or small knife to cut his head off. Here are a few things 2268 02:18:16,050 --> 02:18:19,650 to note in Saudi Arabia, where they implement the strictest 2269 02:18:19,650 --> 02:18:22,830 Sharia law, when they execute someone because he has committed 2270 02:18:22,830 --> 02:18:27,930 murder it is by a sword, a big sharp one. It's typically by one 2271 02:18:27,930 --> 02:18:30,690 blow to the head to the back of the neck that splits the head 2272 02:18:30,690 --> 02:18:34,710 from the body. Be when different terrorist groups in the Middle 2273 02:18:34,710 --> 02:18:38,160 East like to make a scare buzz in the media, they typically 2274 02:18:38,160 --> 02:18:40,800 will execute people by having them get down on their knees and 2275 02:18:40,800 --> 02:18:43,590 shoot them in the back of the head. Or just have them lay face 2276 02:18:43,590 --> 02:18:46,350 down hands tied behind their backs and again just own load 2277 02:18:46,350 --> 02:18:50,310 their AKs into them like prisoners of war. See, as far as 2278 02:18:50,310 --> 02:18:53,460 I know, the only thing that involves a knife and cutting the 2279 02:18:53,460 --> 02:18:57,750 throat is when slaughtering animals. To you both commented 2280 02:18:57,750 --> 02:19:01,410 on Obama's speech and ISIS when he said they have no religion. 2281 02:19:01,560 --> 02:19:04,890 And John said that it was poorly written. You'll recall this. 2282 02:19:05,370 --> 02:19:09,810 Yeah. Let me tell you says our analyst. This statement is a 2283 02:19:09,810 --> 02:19:15,060 literal translation of an Arabic statement. This makes me wonder 2284 02:19:15,060 --> 02:19:17,730 if the person who wrote the speech for Obama is of Middle 2285 02:19:17,730 --> 02:19:21,270 Eastern origin cannot prove or disprove this, but I tell you I 2286 02:19:21,270 --> 02:19:25,020 have never heard that statement used in the US before a literal 2287 02:19:25,020 --> 02:19:27,150 translation from Arabic. 2288 02:19:28,620 --> 02:19:32,400 Of note and I think we should pay attention to that. 2289 02:19:35,219 --> 02:19:37,259 Yeah, doesn't impress you. I'm sorry. I thought You thought you 2290 02:19:37,259 --> 02:19:38,489 would be more impressed. 2291 02:19:39,059 --> 02:19:42,719 Well, I'm don't need to be that impressed. Okay. I like these 2292 02:19:42,719 --> 02:19:45,749 guys coming in with this stuff. Because it brings us down to a 2293 02:19:45,749 --> 02:19:48,689 reality that this apparently none of the news media wants to 2294 02:19:48,689 --> 02:19:51,359 deal with and that they don't they just take everything at 2295 02:19:51,359 --> 02:19:52,259 face value and run 2296 02:19:52,260 --> 02:19:55,770 with it. So this very heroic American journalist of great 2297 02:19:55,770 --> 02:20:00,420 stature, works for an outfit called the Global Power Post, 2298 02:20:00,960 --> 02:20:04,410 which is not really mentioned that he worked for the Global 2299 02:20:04,410 --> 02:20:10,080 Post. Well, let's take a look at the Global Post, shall we? A 2300 02:20:10,080 --> 02:20:14,790 Global Post has no reasonable business model. They're selling 2301 02:20:14,790 --> 02:20:22,650 $10 CPM banner ads in order to make money, and all of their 2302 02:20:22,650 --> 02:20:28,110 journalists are freelancers. In fact, Jim Foley was a freelancer 2303 02:20:28,110 --> 02:20:31,860 in Iraq and he has sold his stories and had a donate button 2304 02:20:31,860 --> 02:20:38,340 on his in Dash iraq.org website, which you can still find on 2305 02:20:38,340 --> 02:20:42,270 archive.org app just because I thought it was funny I it was 2306 02:20:42,300 --> 02:20:45,960 available. So I registered it now I own it. But that was his 2307 02:20:45,990 --> 02:20:51,060 his website in dashboard rack.org where he was in Iraq 2308 02:20:51,060 --> 02:20:55,230 and selling his stories as, as he would say. The global polls 2309 02:20:55,230 --> 02:20:58,470 I'm reading from the from the book of knowledge is an online 2310 02:20:58,500 --> 02:21:01,470 US news company that focuses on international news founded on 2311 02:21:01,470 --> 02:21:06,600 January 12 2009, by Charles M. Senate and Philip s. Bell Boni 2312 02:21:06,780 --> 02:21:10,620 before I go further into Bell Boni, I want to go back circle 2313 02:21:10,620 --> 02:21:18,120 back to the $133 million. That was the obviously and just a non 2314 02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:21,720 starter for us to pay. And let me play for you. And I 2315 02:21:21,720 --> 02:21:25,620 mentioned something here, please, which is the this was 2316 02:21:25,620 --> 02:21:30,270 Family Research. Family came up with this. Apparently there used 2317 02:21:30,270 --> 02:21:33,870 to be an international agreement that when when when a citizen 2318 02:21:33,870 --> 02:21:36,600 was captured in these situations, the country would 2319 02:21:36,600 --> 02:21:39,990 pay the money, the ransom money, and that's still the case with 2320 02:21:40,200 --> 02:21:45,480 Germany, France, Italy, UK, everybody. But we, at some point 2321 02:21:45,480 --> 02:21:47,640 without really much of an announcement opted out 2322 02:21:47,640 --> 02:21:51,360 completely. And the United States will not pay any ransom. 2323 02:21:51,360 --> 02:21:56,160 And we actually as a country require the family to pay if 2324 02:21:56,160 --> 02:21:57,510 anybody's gonna pay at all, 2325 02:21:57,570 --> 02:22:00,390 and unless it's Sergeant Bergdahl and then we'll trade 2326 02:22:00,390 --> 02:22:00,930 out some. 2327 02:22:02,070 --> 02:22:04,710 So it's also peculiar if you think about it, because the 2328 02:22:04,710 --> 02:22:09,000 policy is not to pay anything ever. The family has to pay. We 2329 02:22:09,000 --> 02:22:09,360 don't even 2330 02:22:09,360 --> 02:22:13,080 remember yesterday's news, let alone that bit. Anyway, so go 2331 02:22:13,080 --> 02:22:17,700 on. Okay, so I've been looking into all I've been looking into, 2332 02:22:18,000 --> 02:22:21,180 Oh, I've been looking into this, by the 2333 02:22:21,180 --> 02:22:24,630 way, keep interrupting. What does it do what happened with 2334 02:22:24,630 --> 02:22:28,170 Bergdahl news, welcome. Nobody has covered the guy since I bled 2335 02:22:28,200 --> 02:22:30,450 blue three months ago, he just been dropped out of the news 2336 02:22:30,450 --> 02:22:32,580 cycle. It's like Bergdahl story. Forget it. 2337 02:22:33,300 --> 02:22:38,100 Because we had an earthquake, because we had kids dying in 2338 02:22:38,100 --> 02:22:40,650 Gaza, because this is the whole point. 2339 02:22:41,910 --> 02:22:44,460 It's not really a part of the show. Okay, now I'm gonna shut 2340 02:22:44,460 --> 02:22:44,970 up. Oh, 2341 02:22:45,000 --> 02:22:48,930 no, y'all need your input. Global Post. John, this is a 2342 02:22:48,930 --> 02:22:54,120 Bogut of bull crap outfit. This is not a real news organization 2343 02:22:54,120 --> 02:22:57,000 with a bunch of people who are freelancing and 20 bucks for 2344 02:22:57,000 --> 02:23:01,350 their story. But the founders of this organization are definitely 2345 02:23:01,350 --> 02:23:10,500 interesting. Let us go to the to the website Global Post, I 2346 02:23:10,500 --> 02:23:14,220 wouldn't and while I'm going to I'm going to play a clip for you 2347 02:23:14,820 --> 02:23:20,130 on global post.com. And I will meanwhile I would like you to 2348 02:23:20,130 --> 02:23:22,980 take a look at the founders of this organization look at their 2349 02:23:22,980 --> 02:23:28,980 bios of these are very, very heavy and hard hitters. For the 2350 02:23:29,010 --> 02:23:33,600 for the clear non that can you look up and see what the traffic 2351 02:23:33,600 --> 02:23:36,270 is, can we still do that? It's like a, it's like a what do you 2352 02:23:36,270 --> 02:23:36,540 use? 2353 02:23:37,170 --> 02:23:41,880 isn't really it's, you could, okay, I can I can get some 2354 02:23:41,880 --> 02:23:42,900 sketchy traffic, 2355 02:23:43,050 --> 02:23:47,820 get some sketchy traffic. And I found a very recent interview 2356 02:23:48,180 --> 02:23:54,330 with the CEO and co founder of Global Post, talking 2357 02:23:54,330 --> 02:24:01,320 specifically about the the ransom, and that the bombing, of 2358 02:24:01,320 --> 02:24:03,720 course, sealed his face that there wasn't there were in 2359 02:24:03,720 --> 02:24:08,490 conversations and the amount of the ransom, which we all know 2360 02:24:08,490 --> 02:24:11,490 now and you just played in that very official sounding clip is 2361 02:24:11,490 --> 02:24:13,140 $133 million. 2362 02:24:13,859 --> 02:24:18,209 We never hesitated on that. I mean, I'm fully conversant with 2363 02:24:18,209 --> 02:24:23,069 the United States laws on this. I'm fully conversant with the, 2364 02:24:23,369 --> 02:24:26,999 you know, the kind of body of discussion in in journalism, 2365 02:24:26,999 --> 02:24:31,739 about paying a ransom and how it might stimulate others. But when 2366 02:24:31,739 --> 02:24:37,109 it's when it's your person, your child or your colleague. And you 2367 02:24:37,109 --> 02:24:40,799 know, it's the only way to bring them home. That's what you do. 2368 02:24:40,889 --> 02:24:47,489 And that's why the family with our help, was deeply engaged in 2369 02:24:47,489 --> 02:24:52,259 raising that money and we ran out of time when the bombing 2370 02:24:52,259 --> 02:25:01,109 began. That sealed Jim's fate, unfortunately, These people 2371 02:25:03,359 --> 02:25:07,679 don't have any mercy. And if they can't have money, they'll 2372 02:25:07,679 --> 02:25:11,189 have revenge. And they took it. What was the particular amount 2373 02:25:11,189 --> 02:25:14,939 that they demanded? We did learn from the the European 2374 02:25:14,939 --> 02:25:19,199 journalists who were freed. The amount of the ransoms that were 2375 02:25:19,199 --> 02:25:23,309 paid by their government or with their governments assistance, 2376 02:25:23,309 --> 02:25:23,549 which 2377 02:25:23,550 --> 02:25:27,300 would, I presume, be 100 million euros. And it was in the 2378 02:25:27,300 --> 02:25:33,120 range of two to three and a half million euros or let's say 2379 02:25:33,120 --> 02:25:38,040 around $5 million. We we we felt that $5 million was the amount 2380 02:25:38,040 --> 02:25:42,570 that we needed to raise in order to bring Jim back. 2381 02:25:42,750 --> 02:25:49,860 Oh, well, really, this is his boss, running the Global Post 2382 02:25:50,010 --> 02:25:56,550 website. It was trying to raise $5 million. So I'm going to just 2383 02:25:56,550 --> 02:26:00,930 presume that maybe this seals with stealth technology 2384 02:26:00,930 --> 02:26:03,900 rappelling down from black cops was crap as well. 2385 02:26:07,290 --> 02:26:08,580 Yeah, yeah. Mr. 2386 02:26:08,580 --> 02:26:10,950 Bell Boni is the President Chief Executive and founder of global 2387 02:26:10,950 --> 02:26:13,830 posts one of the country's leading journalist entrepreneurs 2388 02:26:13,830 --> 02:26:16,710 during his career has been the director leadership, nearly 2389 02:26:16,710 --> 02:26:20,070 every major award in American journalism including a Peabody 2390 02:26:20,070 --> 02:26:23,730 awards DuPont Columbia Moreau Emmy Awards. He is the founder 2391 02:26:23,730 --> 02:26:27,630 of NEC in New England cable news. He served as special 2392 02:26:27,630 --> 02:26:30,870 assistant, the chief executive of the Hearst Corporation, this 2393 02:26:30,870 --> 02:26:34,140 is a very very big big level heavy hitter but there's some 2394 02:26:34,140 --> 02:26:37,980 other interesting people on board who have backgrounds in US 2395 02:26:37,980 --> 02:26:42,390 AI D H. K and a consulting which I think is Hill and Knowlton, 2396 02:26:42,390 --> 02:26:48,420 something some acquisition they did. Benjamin Gomez the pilot 2397 02:26:48,420 --> 02:26:54,090 house associates This is a very large very big money pilothouse 2398 02:26:54,090 --> 02:26:58,410 Associates LLC and Boston's Family Investment Office. Big 2399 02:26:58,500 --> 02:27:00,240 big money. 2400 02:27:01,080 --> 02:27:06,150 This the hostellers Amis be Hostetter Jr. co founder former 2401 02:27:06,150 --> 02:27:08,940 chairman chief executive of continental Cablevision, so 2402 02:27:08,940 --> 02:27:12,450 these people all over media and they have this rinky dink 2403 02:27:12,780 --> 02:27:18,570 global, the intercept. Pure drive my cars outfit is more 2404 02:27:18,570 --> 02:27:22,170 impressive than what these guys have put together. But somehow 2405 02:27:22,200 --> 02:27:26,040 they've got this whole thing set up and they have a very 2406 02:27:26,040 --> 02:27:31,290 interesting foundation called the which is the funders Ground 2407 02:27:31,320 --> 02:27:36,240 Truth project. So the funders of Global Post have a Ground Truth 2408 02:27:36,240 --> 02:27:43,680 project Foundation, which is funded by you're gonna love 2409 02:27:43,680 --> 02:27:48,390 this. The Galloway Family Foundation, the Ford Foundation, 2410 02:27:48,390 --> 02:27:51,600 the big trust family, the Henry Luce Lucci Foundation, the 2411 02:27:51,600 --> 02:27:54,900 Pulitzer Center on Crisis Reporting, and of course, in 2412 02:27:54,900 --> 02:27:58,590 partnership with the Kaiser Family Foundation. This is all 2413 02:27:58,590 --> 02:28:04,380 tied into Global Post, Jim Foley himself on his LinkedIn profile, 2414 02:28:04,380 --> 02:28:10,020 which I can only assume is real. This number of his jobs 2415 02:28:10,020 --> 02:28:15,930 including in March of 2010 2008, July 2008, to march 2010. He was 2416 02:28:15,930 --> 02:28:24,240 a reporting officer for us AI D. Intact we're Baghdad, US AI D as 2417 02:28:24,240 --> 02:28:26,130 you know, a State Department you might as well just say that as 2418 02:28:26,130 --> 02:28:28,320 part of the intelligence community, the exquisite 2419 02:28:28,320 --> 02:28:30,120 intelligence that was actually 2420 02:28:30,120 --> 02:28:34,500 the key one of the key elements in the is economic hitman 2421 02:28:34,860 --> 02:28:35,640 thesis. 2422 02:28:36,420 --> 02:28:40,860 The taxpayer project is for developing national capacity in 2423 02:28:40,860 --> 02:28:46,860 public management specifically in Iraq. So he was a part of 2424 02:28:46,860 --> 02:28:50,190 that and it's related to tat where oil services and drilling 2425 02:28:50,220 --> 02:28:54,990 again, Basra and Iraq and so he was doing this somehow they 2426 02:28:54,990 --> 02:28:57,180 decide to become a journalist and he of course, they a 2427 02:28:57,180 --> 02:29:01,230 fearless fearless, fearless journalist. I do not dispute 2428 02:29:01,230 --> 02:29:06,900 that at ever at all. However, there was a interview, quite 2429 02:29:06,900 --> 02:29:13,710 irritating interview with two of his siblings, his brother 2430 02:29:13,710 --> 02:29:19,770 Michael, and his sister Kate, and I will play with of all 2431 02:29:19,770 --> 02:29:25,140 people, Katie Couric, who now is doing this exclusively for the 2432 02:29:25,140 --> 02:29:28,380 Yahoo that she's very familiar with the setup. She's in the 2433 02:29:28,380 --> 02:29:31,620 Yahoo studio. Everything is exactly the way she would like 2434 02:29:31,620 --> 02:29:33,480 to do it. That's even though we've got a little bit of the 2435 02:29:33,480 --> 02:29:38,640 delay going on. The brother Michael has an IFBB in the 2436 02:29:38,640 --> 02:29:42,600 sister that I could tell doesn't does not have an IFBB she's very 2437 02:29:42,600 --> 02:29:47,370 quiet during most of the interview. Most of the entire 2438 02:29:47,370 --> 02:29:49,350 family is military. 2439 02:29:49,529 --> 02:29:53,159 Why would a person being interviewed in a live 2440 02:29:53,159 --> 02:29:55,649 environment like that have an eye FB unless they were the 2441 02:29:55,649 --> 02:29:57,059 interviewer only? 2442 02:29:57,359 --> 02:29:59,969 Well, it couldn't be there. 2443 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:04,800 is no reason I've done these. There's no reason for the 2444 02:30:04,800 --> 02:30:09,060 interviewee to have an IFBB unless they're being coached. 2445 02:30:09,120 --> 02:30:12,510 If they both had it, I would say it's because they needed to hear 2446 02:30:12,630 --> 02:30:16,500 the questions. Oh, with where they were, they weren't at 2447 02:30:16,500 --> 02:30:20,010 Studio. They were in their family home. 2448 02:30:20,160 --> 02:30:23,820 Okay, but you have an IFP did not go to heaven. I 2449 02:30:23,850 --> 02:30:27,780 thank you. So I'm like, I only have one camera view. So I 2450 02:30:27,780 --> 02:30:30,900 can't. And she has long hair. So I can't really 2451 02:30:30,960 --> 02:30:32,730 see she could possibly have one. 2452 02:30:32,910 --> 02:30:36,690 Yes, but he is in control of this interview. He is taking 2453 02:30:36,720 --> 02:30:41,280 obvious command. So the if B, I Well, first, let me give you 2454 02:30:41,280 --> 02:30:43,860 some background, the family from the interview itself with Katie. 2455 02:30:43,950 --> 02:30:47,550 Oh, by the way, that everything is perfect for Katie. But the 2456 02:30:47,580 --> 02:30:50,190 what she's missing and I'm sure she's angry about it. They do 2457 02:30:50,190 --> 02:30:55,350 not have the lighting at NBC that she is used at Yahoo that 2458 02:30:55,350 --> 02:30:59,100 she's used to at NBC. And this will be a point of contention 2459 02:30:59,100 --> 02:31:03,090 for this will be a contractual negotiating point. It's 2460 02:31:03,120 --> 02:31:06,180 pathetic. The Coronavirus Consulting Group will gladly 2461 02:31:06,180 --> 02:31:07,200 help you with your lighting. 2462 02:31:07,230 --> 02:31:11,580 Katie, I know you're a nurse in the Navy. And then you go nurse 2463 02:31:11,580 --> 02:31:15,750 in the Navy. He said, five kids in your family, two of your 2464 02:31:15,750 --> 02:31:17,880 brothers are in the military. 2465 02:31:17,910 --> 02:31:21,540 So that means two of your brothers. That's three and then 2466 02:31:21,540 --> 02:31:25,080 so only one of them is not in military in one form or the 2467 02:31:25,080 --> 02:31:29,550 other. So this is just a military family. Just it is a 2468 02:31:29,550 --> 02:31:33,120 military family. And I'll play the rest of that clip later. 2469 02:31:33,360 --> 02:31:35,940 This is important. I want you to listen to the opening of this 2470 02:31:35,940 --> 02:31:39,210 interview. The first thing I didn't like is they're sitting 2471 02:31:39,210 --> 02:31:43,680 in the family home and that you see it it's the family home. And 2472 02:31:43,710 --> 02:31:45,870 if you're in the family home, you're doing an interview and 2473 02:31:45,870 --> 02:31:48,750 you've been you are saying that you've been with a family and 2474 02:31:48,750 --> 02:31:51,570 it's been a very good time. And we've had you know we're coming 2475 02:31:51,570 --> 02:31:56,640 together and we're remembering our brother. Are you drinking 2476 02:31:56,640 --> 02:31:59,310 Starbucks during the interview? Or do you have a nice cup of 2477 02:31:59,310 --> 02:32:02,340 freshly brewed coffee that your family members have lovingly put 2478 02:32:02,340 --> 02:32:03,240 together for you? 2479 02:32:03,510 --> 02:32:07,440 I would have a cup of family mug from probably from the kitchen 2480 02:32:08,190 --> 02:32:11,670 with something in it a drink water but the coffee tea 2481 02:32:12,960 --> 02:32:16,080 I did not like this at all. And it was a 2482 02:32:16,080 --> 02:32:19,860 Starbucks cup. Yes, it was a Starbucks cup and 2483 02:32:19,919 --> 02:32:23,459 the family home the family home well. Now 2484 02:32:23,519 --> 02:32:25,679 maybe the crew brought a bunch of Starbucks for him. 2485 02:32:27,630 --> 02:32:30,930 He's in the family home they they do not live in the family 2486 02:32:30,930 --> 02:32:34,080 home they've come home to be with the family and they do talk 2487 02:32:34,080 --> 02:32:37,020 and I don't have it but they do talk in this interview about how 2488 02:32:37,080 --> 02:32:39,990 it's been loving to remember Jim and to be together and they got 2489 02:32:39,990 --> 02:32:41,910 little kids running around didn't hear any of that by the 2490 02:32:41,910 --> 02:32:47,010 way. And then the interview opens and listen carefully. 2491 02:32:47,010 --> 02:32:47,340 First 2492 02:32:47,340 --> 02:32:50,910 of all, we'd like to extend our deepest sympathies to both of 2493 02:32:50,910 --> 02:32:54,930 you and your entire family. I think it's hard for all of us 2494 02:32:54,930 --> 02:32:58,530 Katie and Michael to imagine the pain you've been going through 2495 02:32:58,530 --> 02:32:59,310 so did you hear that? 2496 02:33:00,960 --> 02:33:03,870 Noise Yeah, I did hear it. 2497 02:33:04,470 --> 02:33:07,170 What do you think that was? Of all the things that could happen 2498 02:33:07,200 --> 02:33:08,700 in your family home? 2499 02:33:10,770 --> 02:33:14,160 What sound like guys sound like a piece of the set fell over? 2500 02:33:14,190 --> 02:33:19,470 Oh god you are good. Go to the Following URL John C. Dvorak as 2501 02:33:19,470 --> 02:33:28,200 I have pre produced this i t m dot i m slash John Foley kids 2502 02:33:28,230 --> 02:33:36,420 FOLEYK I D. S. And tell me when it's rolling and just watch that 2503 02:33:36,420 --> 02:33:40,620 this is the video of what you just heard. Is it you got it? 2504 02:33:41,400 --> 02:33:42,240 Yeah, yeah. 2505 02:33:44,310 --> 02:33:46,710 Tom rolling it now, which is probably didn't tell 2506 02:33:46,710 --> 02:33:49,530 me what you see. There you go. I can hear you. 2507 02:33:50,040 --> 02:33:53,250 Any aren't over New Hampshire this morning. First of all, we'd 2508 02:33:53,250 --> 02:33:56,640 like to extend our deepest sympathies to both of you and 2509 02:33:56,640 --> 02:34:00,780 your entire family. I think it's hard for all of us, Katie and 2510 02:34:00,780 --> 02:34:04,320 Michael to imagine that you've been going through so 2511 02:34:04,320 --> 02:34:05,190 it's interesting. 2512 02:34:05,490 --> 02:34:09,960 How often does it happen in your family home? That a picture on 2513 02:34:09,960 --> 02:34:15,780 the wall. Not only does it fall off, it just drops off the wall, 2514 02:34:15,960 --> 02:34:21,180 but you also do not respond to it. This is a set John, this is 2515 02:34:21,180 --> 02:34:25,410 a set. And the same stagehand who brought him the Starbucks 2516 02:34:25,410 --> 02:34:29,820 coffee, didn't nail that picture in properly. I'm sorry. It looks 2517 02:34:29,820 --> 02:34:32,370 I was glued on and now you look at that whole video in a 2518 02:34:32,370 --> 02:34:35,100 different aspect. And it looks like a set. 2519 02:34:36,150 --> 02:34:40,020 It does have like a set. I mean, it looks like a crappy set. 2520 02:34:40,380 --> 02:34:43,890 Yes. Hello, Yahoo. Well, this 2521 02:34:43,890 --> 02:34:46,170 doesn't surprise me with Yahoo and the lighting all the rest of 2522 02:34:46,170 --> 02:34:49,020 it. I mean, they they've done video over the years and it's 2523 02:34:49,020 --> 02:34:51,270 always bordering on a sheep production. They don't 2524 02:34:51,270 --> 02:34:55,050 understand the the expense mechanism, you know, to do these 2525 02:34:55,050 --> 02:35:00,300 things, right? It costs money. And let's listen to it. And 2526 02:35:00,300 --> 02:35:02,340 they're so screwed up let me just just just got nothing to do 2527 02:35:02,340 --> 02:35:04,500 with what we're talking about but they don't even have an 2528 02:35:04,500 --> 02:35:09,660 embed code. As far as I know, you can't embed any of these 2529 02:35:09,660 --> 02:35:12,660 videos there yet DAVID POGUE doing stuff they got Katie doing 2530 02:35:12,660 --> 02:35:14,550 stuff and you can put them on a blog. 2531 02:35:14,580 --> 02:35:19,680 I am exposing the media has alright. Yep. Yeah, there's, 2532 02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:26,880 there's no, there is there's no embed code clearly. So I'm 2533 02:35:26,880 --> 02:35:30,750 sorry. This may be the family they seem to all be in 2534 02:35:30,750 --> 02:35:37,470 intelligence. I'm looking at a very strange organization that 2535 02:35:37,470 --> 02:35:42,150 this man was working for is not NBC, ABC, CBS CNN fi no is not 2536 02:35:42,150 --> 02:35:45,570 any of that. Now is where all his great we've got some 2537 02:35:45,570 --> 02:35:50,040 pictures of him. Where's his great who's great award winning 2538 02:35:50,040 --> 02:35:53,700 reporting. Where is all of that? Oh, yes, I will point out that 2539 02:35:53,700 --> 02:35:57,510 the Peabody award that global post one was actually from a 2540 02:35:57,510 --> 02:36:02,820 partnership. They produce video for PBS. They sell their new 2541 02:36:02,820 --> 02:36:10,350 stories to PBS, which really makes you wonder why was our so 2542 02:36:10,650 --> 02:36:20,070 that I photos falling off the wall does not happen. And when 2543 02:36:20,070 --> 02:36:23,670 it does, and if you the video is hard to parse because it's it's 2544 02:36:23,670 --> 02:36:28,350 me with a screen grab reposting it. Though the daughter her 2545 02:36:28,350 --> 02:36:34,020 mouth flinches for a nanosecond, but there there is no other 2546 02:36:34,530 --> 02:36:40,260 response from them. So MK Ultra, perhaps I don't know. But listen 2547 02:36:40,260 --> 02:36:42,360 to the brother prompt her has 2548 02:36:42,360 --> 02:36:47,370 this made you rethink your commitment to the military? Has 2549 02:36:47,370 --> 02:36:50,880 it shaken your resolve in any way, Katie or the resolve of 2550 02:36:50,880 --> 02:36:52,830 your brothers to serve their country, but 2551 02:36:52,830 --> 02:36:55,470 I hear the IFBB it could be with a delay or I don't know what's 2552 02:36:55,470 --> 02:36:57,780 going on. But I hear noise probably. 2553 02:36:58,350 --> 02:37:01,920 I'm today I'm just I'm so proud to be an American. 2554 02:37:01,980 --> 02:37:05,850 Okay, let me understand this. Why does she want it? Why is 2555 02:37:05,850 --> 02:37:11,850 this her answer? I'm so proud to be an American, because Obama 2556 02:37:11,850 --> 02:37:14,940 bombed ISIS and my brother's head got cut off according to 2557 02:37:14,940 --> 02:37:18,120 the narrative. And I'm here in the studio, and I'm proud to be 2558 02:37:18,120 --> 02:37:18,540 American. 2559 02:37:19,740 --> 02:37:23,400 I'm so thankful to be a part of this country, and to be a part 2560 02:37:23,400 --> 02:37:27,780 of a group of people that really have gotten behind us and 2561 02:37:27,780 --> 02:37:31,170 supported us. I don't think anything is the opposite. 2562 02:37:31,200 --> 02:37:38,610 Who is behind you? Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think I think jump in 2563 02:37:38,610 --> 02:37:40,380 jump into freezing up. 2564 02:37:40,920 --> 02:37:47,460 epitomized the American American. Yah, yah, yah, 2565 02:37:47,490 --> 02:37:51,030 yah, yah, MK Ultra. I'm telling you that I'd hate to be a dick 2566 02:37:51,030 --> 02:37:53,940 about it. But here is another flub from her where he jumps in 2567 02:37:53,940 --> 02:37:55,170 again, it's believed 2568 02:37:55,170 --> 02:37:59,850 that the despicable person whose brother is in fact, a British 2569 02:37:59,850 --> 02:38:04,260 citizen, when he learned that when your family learned that, 2570 02:38:04,800 --> 02:38:06,060 what was your reaction? 2571 02:38:06,449 --> 02:38:11,819 You know, if we really focused on where he was from, or really, 2572 02:38:12,179 --> 02:38:15,719 you know, that piece of it I think, we're all just praying 2573 02:38:15,749 --> 02:38:21,029 that he and the other captors are can be merciful. At some 2574 02:38:21,029 --> 02:38:21,779 point, I don't. 2575 02:38:22,199 --> 02:38:25,679 What Yeah, she's freezing jumping. 2576 02:38:25,710 --> 02:38:28,710 He being an English citizen has much to do with it. 2577 02:38:28,740 --> 02:38:33,840 I'm sorry, in English citizen. That's interesting. So she now 2578 02:38:33,840 --> 02:38:38,250 is talking about and he's she should say British, but one of 2579 02:38:38,250 --> 02:38:40,590 the captors might have been English or might have been from 2580 02:38:40,590 --> 02:38:43,590 London to being an English citizen, as she says English 2581 02:38:43,590 --> 02:38:45,540 citizens as you've been told something here 2582 02:38:45,600 --> 02:38:48,120 as much. I hope that 2583 02:38:49,800 --> 02:38:51,990 you know, jump in, jump in there. 2584 02:38:52,289 --> 02:38:55,439 We've been so close for so long. There are hordes of Europeans, 2585 02:38:55,829 --> 02:39:03,149 their parents that have children. The fact that 2586 02:39:03,150 --> 02:39:06,780 she's either drugged or something's very righteous. I 2587 02:39:06,780 --> 02:39:09,780 know it's, I know there are people who think I'm such an a 2588 02:39:09,810 --> 02:39:13,200 hole for doing this, but I have to be skeptical about all the 2589 02:39:13,200 --> 02:39:15,060 things I'm reading and seeing. 2590 02:39:15,690 --> 02:39:16,410 No, no, you're 2591 02:39:16,410 --> 02:39:19,800 right on the money on this one. Catch really, really slip in the 2592 02:39:19,800 --> 02:39:20,700 day almost. 2593 02:39:20,730 --> 02:39:24,060 I have to give a lot of things to Brian, the gay Crusader who 2594 02:39:24,060 --> 02:39:27,150 is really good stuff you got for him. Well, I got the video, but 2595 02:39:27,150 --> 02:39:30,660 he's been working on a lot of the backstory and the especially 2596 02:39:30,660 --> 02:39:35,070 on global posts, which is all in the show notes at 646. Dot. No 2597 02:39:35,070 --> 02:39:38,070 agenda notes.com or na shownotes.com. Just one more 2598 02:39:38,070 --> 02:39:40,980 little bit about the negotiations. I think just one 2599 02:39:40,980 --> 02:39:43,920 last bit is very, very troubling interview. 2600 02:39:44,130 --> 02:39:47,640 Do you agree with with President Obama's assertion that they that 2601 02:39:47,640 --> 02:39:52,230 the US will not scale back its military action following your 2602 02:39:52,230 --> 02:39:53,010 brother's death? 2603 02:39:55,230 --> 02:39:59,370 I do but the thing that I really, really am frustrated by 2604 02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:02,400 I'm Katie, and I don't even know if I should really get into 2605 02:40:02,400 --> 02:40:07,380 this. But why not? Why not? But you can you could accomplish 2606 02:40:07,380 --> 02:40:11,460 both things the United States could could have done more on 2607 02:40:11,460 --> 02:40:17,280 behalf of the the Western and American hostages over there and 2608 02:40:17,280 --> 02:40:23,370 still, you know, dealt with with the broader worldwide issues and 2609 02:40:23,370 --> 02:40:26,640 other nations have have done that. And that's, that's been a 2610 02:40:26,640 --> 02:40:29,160 source of frustration for me. And I really, really, really 2611 02:40:29,160 --> 02:40:33,900 hope that really, really, really in some way Jim's death pushes 2612 02:40:33,900 --> 02:40:37,680 us to take a take another look at our approach our approach our 2613 02:40:38,490 --> 02:40:42,810 policy to to terrorists and hostage negotiations and rethink 2614 02:40:42,810 --> 02:40:46,680 that because of the United States is doing it one way and 2615 02:40:46,680 --> 02:40:49,410 Europe's doing it in another way. There's no consistent 2616 02:40:49,560 --> 02:40:53,820 there's no consistency here. She sounds like she's hypnotized 2617 02:40:53,850 --> 02:40:54,450 definition. 2618 02:40:55,710 --> 02:40:58,350 What? Very strict. So 2619 02:40:58,380 --> 02:41:01,080 when you're talking about the policy, do you mean the policy 2620 02:41:01,080 --> 02:41:07,050 of not not paying ransom or not exchanging money for for correct 2621 02:41:07,080 --> 02:41:08,700 per capita captives? 2622 02:41:08,910 --> 02:41:14,070 That's correct. That's correct. David road wrote a good piece 2623 02:41:14,070 --> 02:41:16,470 and I think it was in Reuters or the Atlantic 2624 02:41:16,500 --> 02:41:19,440 This is now this was to me the way he says I don't know what 2625 02:41:19,440 --> 02:41:22,890 this guy does. I can't find any background on him. But it David 2626 02:41:22,890 --> 02:41:26,010 Rohde when the Atlantic be sounds like a television pundit 2627 02:41:26,010 --> 02:41:30,060 all of a sudden, then David Rohde is a journalist who was 2628 02:41:30,300 --> 02:41:34,440 also taken hostage. And I think they negotiated for him, but 2629 02:41:34,770 --> 02:41:37,350 this is so matter the fact that like, he hangs out with David 2630 02:41:37,350 --> 02:41:39,840 robe, you know, David row brothers, great. This is how he 2631 02:41:39,840 --> 02:41:44,220 leads talk, man, is a fabulous, it's a fabulous piece that 2632 02:41:44,370 --> 02:41:46,680 Brooks wrote in the New York Times, correct? 2633 02:41:46,800 --> 02:41:51,510 That's correct. David Rohde wrote a good piece. And I think 2634 02:41:51,510 --> 02:41:54,510 it was in Reuters or the Atlantic on on this very 2635 02:41:54,510 --> 02:42:00,750 subject. And yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's frustrating. And I 2636 02:42:00,750 --> 02:42:04,290 understand why we're such a large nation, it's difficult to 2637 02:42:04,440 --> 02:42:08,220 cover all the bases, but even take the money aside, there's 2638 02:42:08,250 --> 02:42:12,450 there's things that can be done. You know, we are sitting on 2639 02:42:14,400 --> 02:42:16,890 prisoners, for example, in Guantanamo, it doesn't even have 2640 02:42:16,890 --> 02:42:18,450 to be financial. 2641 02:42:18,539 --> 02:42:22,019 And by the way, we actually are sitting on the prisoners on 2642 02:42:22,019 --> 02:42:26,369 their heads in Guantanamo. So there's a message. 2643 02:42:27,090 --> 02:42:29,550 Yeah, the message is we got to get these guys out of 2644 02:42:29,550 --> 02:42:32,850 Guantanamo, as the message seems as though that was messaging 2645 02:42:32,850 --> 02:42:36,390 going on there to get we can because we've agreed not to pay 2646 02:42:36,390 --> 02:42:39,840 money, but there's these prisoners in Guantanamo. And 2647 02:42:39,840 --> 02:42:45,150 this gives us the out that we need for the Get out of here. 2648 02:42:45,840 --> 02:42:49,590 Yep, that's what I heard. Yeah, to get these guys out of here, 2649 02:42:49,590 --> 02:42:53,010 because we can't seem to close get mo but we could have we had 2650 02:42:53,010 --> 02:42:57,450 a more of these. These captors will give you a three Glock get 2651 02:42:57,450 --> 02:43:00,990 Mo Guys for that guy. Okay, well, we'd like to get five 2652 02:43:01,860 --> 02:43:05,130 till it's empty until it's all empty. Yeah. And the thing I 2653 02:43:05,130 --> 02:43:08,520 love is that and of course, I being from the future, I 2654 02:43:08,520 --> 02:43:11,820 predicted the pope who would be pope and I called him by name, 2655 02:43:11,820 --> 02:43:14,100 months before he actually became Pope 2656 02:43:14,970 --> 02:43:18,930 reminded of this, which your future self said you'd do that. 2657 02:43:19,020 --> 02:43:22,710 And I would actually my future self was kind of annoyed with my 2658 02:43:22,710 --> 02:43:28,140 current self doing it a lot. But Pope Francis, he's in on this. 2659 02:43:28,140 --> 02:43:33,840 He's calling the family. Pope Francis calls them does Pope 2660 02:43:33,840 --> 02:43:36,960 Francis call anybody else? Does he? 2661 02:43:37,380 --> 02:43:39,870 People drop in left and right all over the place for all kinds 2662 02:43:39,870 --> 02:43:40,980 of terrible reasons. 2663 02:43:42,060 --> 02:43:44,940 So why all of a sudden, and he said, Of course, he sent him 2664 02:43:44,940 --> 02:43:48,090 peeping, I'd be sending a cardinal over and is this pope? 2665 02:43:48,090 --> 02:43:50,850 Is he now in on the is this uh, is he in on it? 2666 02:43:51,150 --> 02:43:54,990 I have no idea why he why this is happening. I just we have to 2667 02:43:54,990 --> 02:43:55,740 keep an eye on 2668 02:43:57,060 --> 02:44:00,870 the Pope. The Pope is not just weird. Not actually it is. I 2669 02:44:00,870 --> 02:44:02,880 said weird. But I'm not gonna bite you 2670 02:44:02,910 --> 02:44:07,410 honk the horn. He didn't startle me because it is perhaps weird. 2671 02:44:07,410 --> 02:44:08,640 You have to start on me. 2672 02:44:08,670 --> 02:44:12,180 Sorry. I'll work on it at the last day and they'll get off of 2673 02:44:12,180 --> 02:44:16,350 this but I think I've kind of shot my wad for you. Or I hope 2674 02:44:16,350 --> 02:44:17,100 you enjoyed it. 2675 02:44:18,210 --> 02:44:20,760 It was good. I think it's one of your best analysis. But last 2676 02:44:20,760 --> 02:44:21,120 month, 2677 02:44:21,150 --> 02:44:24,270 here is Dan Rather and I would say Attention Attention 2678 02:44:24,270 --> 02:44:25,980 everybody attention attention. 2679 02:44:26,580 --> 02:44:31,260 If you want to make a quick $5 million attention. 2680 02:44:33,150 --> 02:44:34,440 Would you do the to please? 2681 02:44:35,610 --> 02:44:36,750 What would you like me to say? 2682 02:44:37,410 --> 02:44:42,330 Attention? Attention attention. jihadist kidnappers 2683 02:44:42,390 --> 02:44:45,510 attention? jihadist kidnappers would you like to make a quick 2684 02:44:45,510 --> 02:44:46,830 $5 million? 2685 02:44:47,460 --> 02:44:50,340 Well, there's one thing for governments such as ours and the 2686 02:44:50,340 --> 02:44:52,650 British government to take a stand and say we don't pay 2687 02:44:52,650 --> 02:44:59,010 ransom. And by making that read out front, the government's take 2688 02:44:59,010 --> 02:45:03,120 the view it will just go coverage of the taking of the 2689 02:45:03,120 --> 02:45:07,680 kidnapping of journalists but as was stated before to you Brian, 2690 02:45:07,980 --> 02:45:12,360 when it's your son or daughter when is someone in your 2691 02:45:12,360 --> 02:45:16,260 organization's you've worked with? It's a whole different 2692 02:45:16,260 --> 02:45:17,100 thing. Doug 2693 02:45:17,970 --> 02:45:19,590 do the do the two began to the tube 2694 02:45:21,090 --> 02:45:24,870 it's a long no no with a call out man with the attention to 2695 02:45:24,870 --> 02:45:25,800 the attention 2696 02:45:25,830 --> 02:45:30,060 attention jihadist attention. Would you like to make a cool $5 2697 02:45:30,090 --> 02:45:30,720 million 2698 02:45:31,560 --> 02:45:35,070 and I can't blame anyone for trying to ransom a journalist 2699 02:45:35,070 --> 02:45:39,270 out and I would say this if some member of our Dan Rather reports 2700 02:45:39,300 --> 02:45:43,740 team was kidnapped. I'd be looking negotiate for ransom. 2701 02:45:44,130 --> 02:45:48,300 And you can criticize that if you want damage you want but the 2702 02:45:48,300 --> 02:45:51,990 loyalty to our people who work with us to take these great 2703 02:45:51,990 --> 02:45:55,830 chances. engenders loyalty back 2704 02:46:00,120 --> 02:46:03,420 hello, hey Dan. Hey, Dan. Dan, this is Dan Rather reports 2705 02:46:03,510 --> 02:46:06,840 Dan Rather reports here I'm an executive producer Phil 2706 02:46:06,870 --> 02:46:09,870 Hey Phil. friend Dan Rather reports I was just watching that 2707 02:46:09,870 --> 02:46:14,760 Dan on I think it was a CNN he was brought in to talk about the 2708 02:46:14,760 --> 02:46:15,570 Foley guy. 2709 02:46:15,870 --> 02:46:20,310 Yeah, he was I quit okay 2710 02:46:25,470 --> 02:46:28,920 the end of the divorce Egg Curry players handsome Dan 2711 02:46:28,920 --> 02:46:32,970 the ransom man everybody. I'm gonna show my school by donate 2712 02:46:33,060 --> 02:46:33,960 to no agenda. 2713 02:46:34,019 --> 02:46:37,169 Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun 2714 02:46:44,550 --> 02:46:48,810 Yeah, a few people helped us on show 646 So we want to thank a 2715 02:46:49,470 --> 02:46:57,150 one at a time starting with Dame Sam. Samantha manor in boxhill 2716 02:46:57,150 --> 02:47:00,720 South Victoria Australia 12345 Sorry for the delay in donations 2717 02:47:00,720 --> 02:47:04,830 guys. The clip of the the end of club 33 was pretty close to what 2718 02:47:04,830 --> 02:47:08,340 went down not long ago, but at the house of dubious repute. 2719 02:47:08,640 --> 02:47:11,610 Nearby it still goes on Can I get a Karma shot for all at the 2720 02:47:11,790 --> 02:47:14,220 roundtable? Regards Dame Samantha we're gonna 2721 02:47:14,730 --> 02:47:16,980 we're gonna roll it out for everybody at the end of the 2722 02:47:16,980 --> 02:47:18,390 segment. Absolutely. Damn, Samantha. 2723 02:47:18,599 --> 02:47:25,829 Matt too much you met to my Cellie and he got to know you 2724 02:47:25,829 --> 02:47:33,929 back 12345 Chris Daly in Beaverton, Oregon, and very he 2725 02:47:33,929 --> 02:47:36,479 was very appreciative of the I'm sorry, your disease. 2726 02:47:37,170 --> 02:47:41,970 Oh, no, mature is the one about Yeah, as we said, but then you 2727 02:47:41,970 --> 02:47:43,500 said Chris Daly? Yeah. 2728 02:47:43,860 --> 02:47:50,250 Why does daily 123 Sorry, Beaverton, Oregon. Kathleen 2729 02:47:50,250 --> 02:47:55,860 Hindman in Monaca Pennsylvania and she did mail in a note which 2730 02:47:55,860 --> 02:47:58,620 I will have to dig up for you she's got a rough day it's 2731 02:47:58,620 --> 02:48:02,130 got a birthday call out I see is as her name is highlighted in 2732 02:48:02,130 --> 02:48:02,730 yellow. 2733 02:48:03,090 --> 02:48:08,640 Yes, John's birthday call out the area she is she wrote a 2734 02:48:08,640 --> 02:48:13,440 handwritten note. This donation will be a surprise to my husband 2735 02:48:13,440 --> 02:48:17,490 John another surprise. Oh, is the second one and today's show 2736 02:48:17,490 --> 02:48:22,350 of a wife surprising her husband he keeps saying that he needs to 2737 02:48:22,350 --> 02:48:25,560 donate again because of the listens to you guys faithfully 2738 02:48:25,920 --> 02:48:29,760 our anniversary another anniversary coincidentally it's 2739 02:48:29,760 --> 02:48:32,760 not the same person is it? No, I don't think so. Our anniversary 2740 02:48:32,760 --> 02:48:36,120 is August 21 22 years so almost the same number of years we 2741 02:48:36,120 --> 02:48:38,550 should introduce these these two couples they might be good 2742 02:48:38,550 --> 02:48:43,260 swingers and his birthday is August 24. So he needs deep 2743 02:48:43,260 --> 02:48:50,520 boning deep bone in his get deep bone. Karma with the current job 2744 02:48:50,520 --> 02:48:56,790 different show. Different show is thinking about and would love 2745 02:48:56,790 --> 02:49:00,630 and amazing we put our data to the list. And 2746 02:49:01,290 --> 02:49:03,300 oh wait, I need my pen again. 2747 02:49:03,390 --> 02:49:06,690 Yeah, use your pen but amazing for the husband and friends that 2748 02:49:06,690 --> 02:49:10,230 he for the husband and friend that he is to me. Thanks very 2749 02:49:10,230 --> 02:49:10,680 much. 2750 02:49:10,710 --> 02:49:16,110 I have Kathleen for John. We have them we have the we have to 2751 02:49:16,710 --> 02:49:20,910 do amazing in there. And he needs to be d boned apparently. 2752 02:49:22,440 --> 02:49:25,740 Well, that is not one of the services we provide here. The 2753 02:49:25,740 --> 02:49:27,330 best podcast in the universe we 2754 02:49:27,360 --> 02:49:28,410 boning service. 2755 02:49:29,610 --> 02:49:35,100 We are very sorry we but no, no, just don't do that. However, we 2756 02:49:35,100 --> 02:49:42,210 think as a very beautiful gesture and just so lovely for 2757 02:49:42,720 --> 02:49:46,020 spouses to do this for each other either way it flows, but I 2758 02:49:46,020 --> 02:49:50,070 love that I just love seeing some pictures. Girls 2759 02:49:50,400 --> 02:49:54,060 in Beverly, Massachusetts, we have Jai Kumar, who I think is 2760 02:49:54,060 --> 02:49:57,210 in a movie. And he's in the I had to read his notice since one 2761 02:49:57,210 --> 02:50:00,330 and he says in Episode 643. John mentioned this pricing the 2762 02:50:00,330 --> 02:50:03,210 amount of Indian culture you found in Victoria BC This is not 2763 02:50:03,210 --> 02:50:07,260 a new development at all. As an Indian who was born in Toronto, 2764 02:50:07,260 --> 02:50:09,990 I can tell you that there is a substantial Indian population in 2765 02:50:09,990 --> 02:50:13,110 the major Canadian metropolitan areas Toronto, Montreal and 2766 02:50:13,110 --> 02:50:16,350 Vancouver. This is due to the Canadian government relaxing its 2767 02:50:16,350 --> 02:50:19,560 immigration laws in the 60s 70s and 80s, leading to a wave of 2768 02:50:19,560 --> 02:50:22,410 immigrants from all over the world, but especially from Asia, 2769 02:50:22,410 --> 02:50:27,630 the Middle East and Africa. There weren't a ton of Indians 2770 02:50:27,630 --> 02:50:30,600 when I was a kid there in the 70s, but I was part of the first 2771 02:50:30,600 --> 02:50:33,990 wave of the first generation kids of immigrants. Now I go 2772 02:50:33,990 --> 02:50:36,600 back to Toronto every few years and I'm always amazed at how 2773 02:50:36,630 --> 02:50:39,960 multicultural it is plenty of Indians, Chinese Africans, you 2774 02:50:39,960 --> 02:50:47,280 name it, the in the borough of Toronto. Anyway, he goes on. He 2775 02:50:47,280 --> 02:50:50,490 says there's a fair amount of Sri Lankan gang violence in the 2776 02:50:50,490 --> 02:50:55,830 Toronto area, if you can believe that. And in that infamous 2777 02:50:55,830 --> 02:51:00,840 video, Toronto's fat drunk Mayor Rob Ford was smoking crack crack 2778 02:51:00,870 --> 02:51:03,030 was Somalian gangbangers. 2779 02:51:04,080 --> 02:51:05,880 Some guys have all the luck. 2780 02:51:06,420 --> 02:51:12,180 There's a lot of action in Canada, apparently. So he said 2781 02:51:12,180 --> 02:51:15,270 that he's that's a note that's a handwritten note. Sorry, 2782 02:51:15,270 --> 02:51:19,290 actually hand type Shirzad of Elwood and Elwood, Illinois 89 2783 02:51:20,550 --> 02:51:27,150 I think we do have to read this one. I think there's there's a 2784 02:51:27,150 --> 02:51:33,060 lot going on here. We have a because of this we have a new 2785 02:51:33,060 --> 02:51:40,650 night on the scene as well as being dedicated for the Okay, 2786 02:51:40,680 --> 02:51:42,480 are you going to hit this or what do you want me to do it? 2787 02:51:42,780 --> 02:51:45,930 Yeah, I'll tell you we're gonna do it last the service dog of 2788 02:51:45,930 --> 02:51:48,210 Elwood here a little bit of a bonus on get back in the donor 2789 02:51:48,210 --> 02:51:51,210 train last year my donations hit the amount to reach a Baronet. I 2790 02:51:51,210 --> 02:51:53,520 mentioned that in my note accompany that donation, but it 2791 02:51:53,520 --> 02:51:56,790 got missed in the show reads. So my title change never took 2792 02:51:56,790 --> 02:52:01,350 effect. It does happen. Sorry. But it will be corrected. I've 2793 02:52:01,350 --> 02:52:03,120 made some donations in the meantime, but I'm finally 2794 02:52:03,120 --> 02:52:04,680 getting around to doing something about this. Since the 2795 02:52:04,680 --> 02:52:07,080 title change has never actually recorded. I thought about doing 2796 02:52:07,080 --> 02:52:10,200 something a little different. Tomorrow, August 24. My son Alex 2797 02:52:10,200 --> 02:52:12,990 turns 11 I'd like to pass what would have been a Baronet 2798 02:52:13,020 --> 02:52:17,220 upgrade to him as a knighthood. This is acceptable. Since I'm 2799 02:52:17,220 --> 02:52:20,850 known by many of my associates as Zog, he has adopted the 2800 02:52:20,850 --> 02:52:25,140 moniker a Zog. Since the Hitler 999 is his favorite donation 2801 02:52:25,140 --> 02:52:27,660 amount I'm making this donation which will carry forward towards 2802 02:52:27,660 --> 02:52:30,810 my Baronet, but I would like to put the previous donation series 2803 02:52:30,810 --> 02:52:35,700 towards his knighthood as Sir a Zog son of serves Zog of Elwood 2804 02:52:36,480 --> 02:52:39,540 I promise we will rule the area south of Chicago with an iron 2805 02:52:39,540 --> 02:52:45,270 fist for generations to come. No agenda nights and higher in 2806 02:52:45,270 --> 02:52:48,660 peerage as resources permit. So I'd also like to add him as a 2807 02:52:48,660 --> 02:52:51,570 birthday call out August 24. As well as making him a night if 2808 02:52:51,570 --> 02:52:55,050 possible, we would preferably prefer to celebrate with a root 2809 02:52:55,050 --> 02:52:56,670 beer and Legos. 2810 02:52:59,010 --> 02:53:01,710 Now when that comes around, we'll put route bear Lagos on 2811 02:53:01,710 --> 02:53:06,300 their creative cretin in Los Angeles, California. $80. But it 2812 02:53:06,300 --> 02:53:10,710 says my name ain't baby. It's Janet. And then it has dash 2813 02:53:10,740 --> 02:53:11,430 Justin, 2814 02:53:11,460 --> 02:53:16,020 Miss, Miss Justin, if you're nasty. That's a cultural 2815 02:53:16,020 --> 02:53:17,610 reference. You will not understand. 2816 02:53:18,630 --> 02:53:21,330 Okay, well explain it to me that it doesn't matter. It's okay. 2817 02:53:21,930 --> 02:53:26,520 Herb lamb 7777 67 To celebrate our seventh anniversary coming 2818 02:53:26,520 --> 02:53:31,200 up Sugar Hill, Georgia. And he thought the last two newsletters 2819 02:53:31,200 --> 02:53:32,190 were hilarious. I should 2820 02:53:32,190 --> 02:53:36,960 read that. Did you see the panda turned one today? But panda the 2821 02:53:36,960 --> 02:53:40,830 panda in the way is a tremendous it's not your fault. But I saw 2822 02:53:40,830 --> 02:53:44,790 this this morning in the News Feed the panda I got it here. 2823 02:53:44,850 --> 02:53:49,950 Washington's giant panda cub bottle bottle. turned one and 2824 02:53:49,950 --> 02:53:52,950 the picture of him is so cute. 2825 02:53:53,250 --> 02:53:55,260 I use it in the next newsletter. We he has 2826 02:53:55,260 --> 02:53:57,570 a little he has a little birthday cake with a big candle 2827 02:53:57,570 --> 02:54:00,780 on it. Which is perfect. 2828 02:54:01,260 --> 02:54:05,250 Todd taubmans Semmens Shaha saqa seven Sunnyvale California 2829 02:54:05,250 --> 02:54:12,600 Stephen? Krista Fuli staffers Crisafulli Chris softly 2830 02:54:12,630 --> 02:54:14,070 Steven instead of Stephen 2831 02:54:14,400 --> 02:54:19,800 Stephen Crisafulli in mundane Western Australia, Sega sevens 2832 02:54:19,800 --> 02:54:23,520 Jason Daniels, Dallas, Texas Sega seven Sam Leung in Toronto, 2833 02:54:23,520 --> 02:54:27,570 Ontario saqa seven he did send a note inside and I don't have it 2834 02:54:27,570 --> 02:54:32,640 in front of me. You haven't I think I do. Richard Riley read 2835 02:54:32,640 --> 02:54:38,070 it after we're done. Richard Riley Loomis, California. 6660 2836 02:54:38,070 --> 02:54:42,270 is the only one of those Robert Pender and Pender in Springfield 2837 02:54:42,270 --> 02:54:45,240 Virginia double neck goes on the dime along with Charles Walters 2838 02:54:45,240 --> 02:54:48,150 and Stromberg, Illinois commonly comes in with a double neck goes 2839 02:54:48,150 --> 02:54:52,800 on the dime. Harm Veenstra 2840 02:54:53,250 --> 02:54:58,050 Feenstra harm Feenstra in Buruli 2841 02:55:00,149 --> 02:55:04,439 He wants to fuck Karma can fucking cancer karma. We'll 2842 02:55:04,439 --> 02:55:09,149 throw that in. Charles wha did him Kevin Sir Kevin Payne in 2843 02:55:09,149 --> 02:55:12,089 Chantilly, Virginia, Maxwell thin and Seattle, Washington 2844 02:55:12,449 --> 02:55:17,639 56 $50.69 or 5033 respectively and then $50 donations from an 2845 02:55:17,639 --> 02:55:21,059 anonymous source in Arlington, Virginia. Hopefully that's in 2846 02:55:21,059 --> 02:55:23,819 Arlington, Virginia. We need more of those Arlington, 2847 02:55:23,819 --> 02:55:27,419 Virginia donations if you know what I mean Christie we Michi in 2848 02:55:27,419 --> 02:55:35,309 Dallas, Texas. Macy's below us the last Loski and Calgary, 2849 02:55:35,369 --> 02:55:39,599 Alberta I won't say Jason Daniels in Dallas, Texas, T 2850 02:55:39,629 --> 02:55:46,079 Abell in Burghfield, Berkshire. And finally Brandon, um, make 2851 02:55:46,079 --> 02:55:47,009 Miramar 2852 02:55:47,010 --> 02:55:48,360 and BUM BUM BUM BUM 2853 02:55:48,599 --> 02:55:52,619 Barry Merrick in Tempe, Arizona and our buddy Benjamin Smith 2854 02:55:52,619 --> 02:55:54,779 over here, I'm waving right now at the window in Oakland, 2855 02:55:54,779 --> 02:55:58,589 California. And that'll be our helpers, donors, contributors, 2856 02:55:58,619 --> 02:56:01,799 producers lesser producers all from show 646. 2857 02:56:02,310 --> 02:56:07,830 Let me here's the notes. Here's the notes from Sam Luang sir. 2858 02:56:08,700 --> 02:56:11,190 Great Thursday show your analysis of the Foley in the 2859 02:56:11,190 --> 02:56:15,150 Ferguson situation can only be described as top notch. However, 2860 02:56:15,900 --> 02:56:19,140 John almost pulled the wool over our eyes on the etymology of 2861 02:56:19,170 --> 02:56:23,640 penalty and testimony. I'm sure a astute listeners would already 2862 02:56:23,640 --> 02:56:27,090 have pointed out that the Latin root for penalty is pure 2863 02:56:27,090 --> 02:56:35,040 analysis for pain, not for penis. Well, I agree that John's 2864 02:56:35,400 --> 02:56:37,110 etymology was more fun to listen to. 2865 02:56:39,600 --> 02:56:41,760 I did wake up in the middle of the night going really? 2866 02:56:44,790 --> 02:56:47,160 Sometimes I wonder if you do that on purpose or not? 2867 02:56:47,550 --> 02:56:51,330 I know I use range man. What I thought 2868 02:56:51,540 --> 02:56:56,460 a correction from last Thursday show, 2869 02:56:56,670 --> 02:56:59,880 sir sports junk? Well, yes, 2870 02:56:59,910 --> 02:57:03,960 he's actually sir Gary Leland. Well, the night who says knee 2871 02:57:03,960 --> 02:57:08,160 and this does bring up a minor thing. When you use your pay 2872 02:57:08,160 --> 02:57:14,100 pal, we use the information from the Pay Pal. Yes, you can put 2873 02:57:14,100 --> 02:57:19,410 something in the notice to a recipient field. That is usually 2874 02:57:19,410 --> 02:57:22,890 a way to get a message to us. That is usually the correct way 2875 02:57:22,890 --> 02:57:26,640 to get a message to us. Interestingly, a lot of people 2876 02:57:26,640 --> 02:57:32,310 don't seem to be able to find the note field. And there was a 2877 02:57:32,310 --> 02:57:38,010 back office memo that came out that I don't I don't agree with 2878 02:57:38,010 --> 02:57:42,810 but I think you're kind of all in on it. Saying that we should 2879 02:57:42,810 --> 02:57:46,080 mention that. Eric the shill is the person who you need to email 2880 02:57:46,080 --> 02:57:50,670 for all things. Notes and donations and rings. Not really 2881 02:57:50,670 --> 02:57:54,930 oh no agenda nation.com/rings is where you can if you deserve one 2882 02:57:54,930 --> 02:57:55,050 Yeah, 2883 02:57:55,050 --> 02:57:58,680 but if you don't get your ring your email, she'll at no agenda 2884 02:57:58,680 --> 02:58:02,220 nation.com and he will come because I all we do is send a 2885 02:58:02,250 --> 02:58:04,350 note to him. Right? Well, 2886 02:58:05,820 --> 02:58:12,930 I What I've seen is that I receive the most of these 2887 02:58:12,930 --> 02:58:18,360 messages. Well for a couple reasons. One it's so easy to 2888 02:58:18,360 --> 02:58:21,960 remember adam@curry.com It's just easy. Yeah, well that 2889 02:58:21,960 --> 02:58:24,240 people don't half the people in the world if you stopped them on 2890 02:58:24,240 --> 02:58:28,320 street How do you spell divorce Chuck would run How do you spell 2891 02:58:28,320 --> 02:58:33,540 Devine as someone that for for a habit for a laugh? Um so of 2892 02:58:33,540 --> 02:58:36,330 course you can use John and curry.com But then there's so 2893 02:58:36,360 --> 02:58:40,350 she'll have no agenda nation.com is just not sticking. People 2894 02:58:40,350 --> 02:58:41,640 don't listen well. 2895 02:58:41,730 --> 02:58:46,860 But you should get a hold of Eric Eric is a is a genius at 2896 02:58:46,860 --> 02:58:50,910 customer service. He likes it he's not like well I don't want 2897 02:58:50,910 --> 02:58:54,960 to disparage he likes it she's very good. But me me would do 2898 02:58:54,960 --> 02:58:57,780 you know, she would basically she used to be a waitress that 2899 02:58:57,780 --> 02:59:01,500 used to tell customers to screw themselves cocktail bar and then 2900 02:59:01,530 --> 02:59:05,130 kick him in the restaurant and then kick him in the leg. And 2901 02:59:05,160 --> 02:59:08,070 meanwhile Eric is used to work in customer service in fact this 2902 02:59:08,070 --> 02:59:11,070 one of his first jobs was selling fish supplies or 2903 02:59:11,070 --> 02:59:16,080 something and local fish guy and if you fish aquarium place and 2904 02:59:16,080 --> 02:59:18,780 then he worked at some other customers he's like he likes to 2905 02:59:18,780 --> 02:59:22,530 do it. He mean he didn't while he likes it who could like that, 2906 02:59:22,530 --> 02:59:25,830 but he he's good at it. And so just get a hold of him and he'll 2907 02:59:25,830 --> 02:59:28,440 take care of you because we have one guy going back and forth all 2908 02:59:28,770 --> 02:59:33,180 day won't get me a ring you over email me. And Eric tells me 2909 02:59:33,180 --> 02:59:37,200 which Mimi is always say I've emailed the guy, which a lot of 2910 02:59:37,200 --> 02:59:40,350 people never pick up their email or it gets filtered or they 2911 02:59:40,350 --> 02:59:42,870 don't care or they don't notice that. I mean, it's like our 2912 02:59:42,870 --> 02:59:47,190 newsletter only a few percentage get through. So 2913 02:59:47,369 --> 02:59:53,159 yeah, so a couple of things. While I'm saying this one is I 2914 02:59:53,159 --> 02:59:58,889 don't mind because I I like email. I'm pretty good at it. I 2915 02:59:58,889 --> 03:00:03,629 forward everything. We are very loyally on to Eric I run my own 2916 03:00:03,929 --> 03:00:06,719 email server. So pretty much everything that is supposed to 2917 03:00:06,719 --> 03:00:12,359 come through comes through. However, it is at your own risk. 2918 03:00:13,049 --> 03:00:16,139 Then I do we have shill and noise in the nation.com on the 2919 03:00:16,139 --> 03:00:19,379 donation page so that people understood you say customer 2920 03:00:19,379 --> 03:00:22,109 service can we just have a link that might be smart to do that? 2921 03:00:23,069 --> 03:00:26,789 And it's okay if you copy John on it, but here's the things 2922 03:00:26,789 --> 03:00:32,819 will not work. Do not send anything to John. And these are 2923 03:00:32,819 --> 03:00:36,569 lies you suck at email. I like you man. You bet you my brother 2924 03:00:36,569 --> 03:00:40,709 in all my emails suck at email. You just suck at it. Now it's 2925 03:00:40,709 --> 03:00:41,729 okay. It's 2926 03:00:42,689 --> 03:00:44,789 okay. Insult I would I'm taking. 2927 03:00:45,119 --> 03:00:49,619 I am not insulting you at all. I'm just stating a fact that you 2928 03:00:49,619 --> 03:00:53,099 don't have to be all huffy about it. I'm huffy. This emails that 2929 03:00:53,099 --> 03:00:59,099 I send you that you don't open. Oh, here it is. You are great at 2930 03:00:59,099 --> 03:01:02,849 so many things. Like harmonica 2931 03:01:04,260 --> 03:01:05,940 and lies. 2932 03:01:06,330 --> 03:01:08,880 Tube. You're great at that whiskey tube. 2933 03:01:08,940 --> 03:01:12,090 It tube is good. take credit for the tube. 2934 03:01:12,480 --> 03:01:16,080 And your LIFO FIFO. You haven't you have you have said yourself 2935 03:01:16,080 --> 03:01:22,050 your LIFO and I'm not LIFO I before the show I live for the 2936 03:01:22,050 --> 03:01:25,110 show. I make sure that I've gone through everything and I forward 2937 03:01:25,110 --> 03:01:28,950 everything and I really try. Alright are good. You're good. 2938 03:01:28,950 --> 03:01:33,210 You're pretty good at the checks. But how many times is is 2939 03:01:33,210 --> 03:01:35,790 that the note on the other side of the room? I mean, it doesn't 2940 03:01:35,790 --> 03:01:39,840 happen. And by the way, we're not NBC. 2941 03:01:41,130 --> 03:01:42,660 We're a couple of Joe's 2942 03:01:44,190 --> 03:01:48,120 when we were a couple of analysts with a podcast, we're 2943 03:01:48,120 --> 03:01:50,880 analysts, we're independent analysts. 2944 03:01:52,080 --> 03:01:54,840 We have a network of independent mode. Well, 2945 03:01:54,840 --> 03:01:57,690 no, we have a network of intelligence network. What was 2946 03:01:58,590 --> 03:02:01,980 you wrote it down? See, open your book 2947 03:02:02,039 --> 03:02:05,609 we have Yeah, we have a network of intelligence gathering. 2948 03:02:05,640 --> 03:02:08,610 We had a whole sentence and you said you were write it down and 2949 03:02:08,610 --> 03:02:11,010 it's your job as the archivist and now you can't find that 2950 03:02:11,010 --> 03:02:11,550 either. 2951 03:02:11,610 --> 03:02:12,660 It's in here. I'm not. 2952 03:02:14,850 --> 03:02:19,020 Anyway, so please, can we let's put that on the donation page. 2953 03:02:19,050 --> 03:02:21,600 Yeah, there's a debt. You know what? That genius 2954 03:02:21,630 --> 03:02:24,090 and I'm going to put it in the show notes. I will put a big 2955 03:02:24,090 --> 03:02:30,000 link which will replicate it'll say customer service. And Eric, 2956 03:02:30,180 --> 03:02:32,760 do you ask for it? Because you don't just get 2957 03:02:32,790 --> 03:02:34,680 it any more letters than he normally gets? 2958 03:02:36,720 --> 03:02:41,040 Okay, well you know my my stance on email and when people will 2959 03:02:41,040 --> 03:02:41,310 probably 2960 03:02:41,310 --> 03:02:43,800 still get the same which was easy like you said easy it's 2961 03:02:43,800 --> 03:02:49,590 easy very easy to remember Adam had curry.com Or why exactly.com 2962 03:02:49,620 --> 03:02:50,880 It's very easy to remember 2963 03:02:50,910 --> 03:02:53,700 that's it john@curry.com works but don't expect 2964 03:02:53,700 --> 03:02:56,220 that it's not as easy to remember Adam is the first you 2965 03:02:56,220 --> 03:02:58,590 know it's Adam. Adam and Eve is the first thing in the Bible 2966 03:02:58,620 --> 03:03:01,710 it's like you but dial you call me it's always Adam It's I'm at 2967 03:03:01,710 --> 03:03:03,120 the top of the button I list 2968 03:03:03,300 --> 03:03:05,280 yeah you get but but it a lot. 2969 03:03:06,300 --> 03:03:07,740 So don't take it personally. 2970 03:03:07,830 --> 03:03:11,730 I have a letter another letter says respond this segment from 2971 03:03:11,730 --> 03:03:17,190 Harvey Haller Hulu or Hulu or something? I'm not sure but he's 2972 03:03:17,880 --> 03:03:21,360 he's from Kitchener, Ontario again, Ontario again for about 2973 03:03:21,360 --> 03:03:23,850 the Indians. I just want to get this out of the way. Did you 2974 03:03:23,850 --> 03:03:26,850 want to chip in the email from that guy? Karthik was spot on 2975 03:03:26,850 --> 03:03:30,030 Brampton and Syria by no means the only Punjabi heavy 2976 03:03:30,030 --> 03:03:33,630 communities. But they are definitely two big ones. One 2977 03:03:33,630 --> 03:03:37,140 correction about that email before I before that, I believe 2978 03:03:37,140 --> 03:03:41,130 that to be true to awkwardly worded about the demand for 2979 03:03:41,130 --> 03:03:44,070 physicians way back in the day and going through Canada was the 2980 03:03:44,070 --> 03:03:47,760 easy way to get to the US. However, today, the reverse is 2981 03:03:47,760 --> 03:03:50,880 actually easier. I'm a medical student who left home to go to 2982 03:03:50,880 --> 03:03:53,460 med school and most of my Canadian classmates and there 2983 03:03:53,460 --> 03:03:55,890 are a lot of us many Canadians actually leave the country to go 2984 03:03:55,890 --> 03:03:59,400 to med school. Aim for the US to do their residency is because 2985 03:03:59,400 --> 03:04:02,610 the US is actually less competitive than Canada, when it 2986 03:04:02,610 --> 03:04:05,610 comes to residency sponsor foreign graduates. Even if 2987 03:04:05,610 --> 03:04:09,180 you're a Canadian studying abroad, like myself, what you 2988 03:04:09,180 --> 03:04:13,560 guys discuss may have been the case many years ago, but just 2989 03:04:13,620 --> 03:04:17,250 thought I'd drop a line about the current state of affairs. 2990 03:04:17,279 --> 03:04:21,419 Well, thank you for that and still receive no donations from 2991 03:04:21,419 --> 03:04:22,139 Indians. 2992 03:04:23,580 --> 03:04:28,680 Yes, this is true. And I have some clips that I got in advance 2993 03:04:28,680 --> 03:04:29,550 talking about this. 2994 03:04:29,820 --> 03:04:33,750 John John, I've got birthdays to do I have nice things to do. 2995 03:04:33,960 --> 03:04:38,490 Well, let me just read one more No, go go on. And I have a time. 2996 03:04:39,570 --> 03:04:42,660 I have the final I have the final sequence of karma of 2997 03:04:42,660 --> 03:04:44,040 course. Bingo boom. 2998 03:04:50,730 --> 03:04:55,590 Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for Joe. 2999 03:04:59,100 --> 03:05:01,800 We will be doing now. To show on Monday, it'll be interesting to 3000 03:05:01,800 --> 03:05:04,500 see if I make it at all because of course you happen to be doing 3001 03:05:04,500 --> 03:05:06,990 a show on Monday. What I said I'm flying to Amsterdam on 3002 03:05:06,990 --> 03:05:11,610 Monday the show on Thursday. I'm sorry. I'm confused. I'm worried 3003 03:05:11,610 --> 03:05:14,670 because I'm supposed to fly tomorrow and we have the ash 3004 03:05:14,670 --> 03:05:18,420 crisis coming up again. So who knows what's going to happen? So 3005 03:05:18,420 --> 03:05:22,830 support aso.org/and a 3006 03:05:30,210 --> 03:05:33,450 birthday celebration today the den man big supporter and fan of 3007 03:05:33,450 --> 03:05:36,210 the program and of course he has his own podcast and blog you 3008 03:05:36,210 --> 03:05:39,930 might want to check out Jim Boris turned 53 on the 22nd 3009 03:05:40,110 --> 03:05:42,540 Birthday to you sir Zaga Bellwoods is Happy Birthday his 3010 03:05:42,540 --> 03:05:47,040 son, Alex, who will be knighted in a moment he turns 11. Today, 3011 03:05:47,280 --> 03:05:51,360 Marvin Lee Breton says hello Peggy baby her birthday today 3012 03:05:51,360 --> 03:05:53,430 and all that other stuff as we hooked him up with Kathleen 3013 03:05:53,430 --> 03:05:57,780 Hillman Hyneman Kinnaman Hyneman Lewis congratulate her husband 3014 03:05:57,780 --> 03:06:02,760 John amazing she says also celebrating today and we're 3015 03:06:02,760 --> 03:06:05,460 gonna see we can hook those two up happy birthday from all your 3016 03:06:05,460 --> 03:06:08,610 friends and the entire staff management and back office and 3017 03:06:08,610 --> 03:06:15,210 customer service at the best podcast in the universe. Then we 3018 03:06:15,210 --> 03:06:19,890 have Jim Bob with 123 We have three nice things today my 3019 03:06:19,890 --> 03:06:23,850 friend three nice things, but let me grab my sword which I use 3020 03:06:23,850 --> 03:06:30,000 my right hand for nevertheless left ever. Um, 3021 03:06:30,030 --> 03:06:34,830 hold on this thing stuck stuck? Your gums? It's given wait. 3022 03:06:35,910 --> 03:06:41,370 Finally. All right, Jim. Jim Bharath stepped forward. Ed 3023 03:06:41,370 --> 03:06:47,010 Ferro, come on down and Alexon. Would you please send? Well, 3024 03:06:47,190 --> 03:06:50,910 here he is. Here's your news. Your son Alex a good gentleman. 3025 03:06:50,910 --> 03:06:52,860 All three of you have contributed about podcasting 3026 03:06:52,860 --> 03:06:54,690 universe in the appropriate amount and therefore we bring 3027 03:06:54,690 --> 03:06:56,670 you into the table of the Knights of the Danes and 3028 03:06:56,670 --> 03:07:03,030 pronounce the SIR Jaco sir Ed Farrell, and Sir Azar, the son 3029 03:07:03,030 --> 03:07:07,620 of Sir Zaga bellawood. Gents for you. Repair Legos as crema bear 3030 03:07:07,620 --> 03:07:10,980 feelings, girlfriend experience and good and bourbon porn stars 3031 03:07:10,980 --> 03:07:13,920 and pot I'm running out what's bad signs and perky breasts? 3032 03:07:15,150 --> 03:07:17,430 Bong it's a bourbon sparkling cider and escorts and mutton and 3033 03:07:17,430 --> 03:07:19,200 meat. Of course, we have the hookers and blow right boys and 3034 03:07:19,200 --> 03:07:19,650 Chardonnay. It's 3035 03:07:19,650 --> 03:07:21,900 all there for you was a new one at the end. 3036 03:07:22,500 --> 03:07:26,460 And if you go to I had root beer in Lagos and if you go to no 3037 03:07:26,460 --> 03:07:29,970 agenda nation.com/rings That's where you can submit all your 3038 03:07:29,970 --> 03:07:33,690 information and your ring will come to you post haste, courtesy 3039 03:07:33,690 --> 03:07:38,790 of the back office and the best podcast in the universe. Good 3040 03:07:38,790 --> 03:07:42,960 good. Good. We are it's I'm sorry, I took up a lot of time. 3041 03:07:43,320 --> 03:07:46,110 You had too many you had three deconstructions today instead of 3042 03:07:46,110 --> 03:07:47,010 the normal one, 3043 03:07:47,040 --> 03:07:49,290 but Well, I only had two what were the three? 3044 03:07:50,490 --> 03:07:51,330 Maybe you didn't 3045 03:07:53,520 --> 03:07:57,420 it's felt like three? Oh no, I had self moral licensing. 3046 03:07:58,350 --> 03:08:01,590 I had a long one that was long and the other one was long too. 3047 03:08:01,590 --> 03:08:02,340 They're both long. 3048 03:08:02,940 --> 03:08:05,550 You know what that's what we can do but I know you 3049 03:08:05,670 --> 03:08:09,090 didn't get to do my boy I got another Ebola report and you got 3050 03:08:09,090 --> 03:08:11,970 mac and cheese. We can't do it we'll do the Ebola is gonna get 3051 03:08:11,970 --> 03:08:15,810 pushed off because it's not that topical. And it's I know no 3052 03:08:15,810 --> 03:08:19,230 one's going to come up with this so I'm gonna hold it in abeyance 3053 03:08:19,230 --> 03:08:22,560 and it's also long it's going to be long because of the length of 3054 03:08:22,560 --> 03:08:26,520 these clips. But mac and cheese tomorrow's mac and cheese day 3055 03:08:26,520 --> 03:08:29,580 and everyone wants to hear my analysis no analysis of the Mac 3056 03:08:29,580 --> 03:08:31,590 and Cheese Day I just have two clips. 3057 03:08:33,450 --> 03:08:34,620 Very excited about it. 3058 03:08:34,680 --> 03:08:37,470 I have three clips. Well, I mean I did have good clips already 3059 03:08:37,470 --> 03:08:40,920 but I thought that this was interesting. This is a mac and 3060 03:08:40,920 --> 03:08:43,350 cheese and other there's a lot of recipes online for mac and 3061 03:08:43,350 --> 03:08:45,900 cheese. Nobody knows how to cook online I've come to the 3062 03:08:45,900 --> 03:08:48,720 conclusion that all these people that cook show you that could 3063 03:08:48,720 --> 03:08:50,910 have their little cooking shows that show how to cook they can't 3064 03:08:50,910 --> 03:08:54,870 cook. None of these people can cook but they all think they can 3065 03:08:54,870 --> 03:08:59,040 and they decided to put up a YouTube video so let's play mac 3066 03:08:59,040 --> 03:09:01,890 and cheese oddball cheese WTF clip? 3067 03:09:02,220 --> 03:09:05,550 Okay, you guys to me Nothing says American like mac and 3068 03:09:05,550 --> 03:09:09,660 cheese the classic American dish with the classic old school 3069 03:09:09,660 --> 03:09:11,610 cheese Wisconsin Grier. 3070 03:09:12,240 --> 03:09:15,600 What? No, it's supposed to be Velveeta 3071 03:09:15,690 --> 03:09:20,010 was supposed to be cheap cheddar but it's a classic, classic 3072 03:09:20,010 --> 03:09:24,870 classic and then you have graer as the cheese this isn't mac and 3073 03:09:24,870 --> 03:09:25,560 cheese. 3074 03:09:26,700 --> 03:09:29,760 That guy was Hold on a sec Let me listen to the recipe again. 3075 03:09:30,660 --> 03:09:36,000 You slaves can get Mr. Mac and cheese macaroni and cheese 3076 03:09:36,180 --> 03:09:40,230 shatter melted together mac and cheese mac and cheese mac and 3077 03:09:40,230 --> 03:09:40,590 cheese. 3078 03:09:41,280 --> 03:09:45,450 Cheap macaroni and cheese cheddar melted together. That's 3079 03:09:45,450 --> 03:09:45,690 it. 3080 03:09:45,720 --> 03:09:48,180 That's all you need. You put a little butter if you want you 3081 03:09:48,180 --> 03:09:51,240 can put some cream if you want to pad it. But no, that's all 3082 03:09:51,270 --> 03:09:53,130 there is to it. You know it's not a bunch of complex 3083 03:09:53,160 --> 03:09:57,180 complexity, play Mac and Qi or the Mac amazing clip and you'll 3084 03:09:57,180 --> 03:10:01,380 see what I'm talking about. Hey guys, It's 3085 03:10:01,380 --> 03:10:05,340 Ingrid and today I'm really excited because guess what we're 3086 03:10:05,340 --> 03:10:09,960 making bacon macaroni and cheese and it's gonna be awesome. 3087 03:10:10,140 --> 03:10:13,800 Macaroni and cheese is one of my favorites. It's a classic and 3088 03:10:13,800 --> 03:10:17,370 we're going to be putting a spin on it today because this recipe 3089 03:10:17,370 --> 03:10:21,780 does not require you to pre cook the pasta which is amazing. Oh 3090 03:10:21,780 --> 03:10:22,560 my god that 3091 03:10:26,310 --> 03:10:29,160 you don't have to cook the pasta you just crunches crunchy. 3092 03:10:31,590 --> 03:10:38,760 No. I rescind. I repent. This is a great segment. This is good. I 3093 03:10:38,760 --> 03:10:44,430 didn't I didn't realize you were grabbing clips of morons who are 3094 03:10:44,430 --> 03:10:47,010 making posts think they know what they're doing. I in 3095 03:10:47,010 --> 03:10:51,330 preparation for the show. Someone had sent me if you can 3096 03:10:51,330 --> 03:10:56,520 recall a while back I'm talking a lot previous house last year. 3097 03:10:56,820 --> 03:11:00,960 A big time full on box of Kraft mac and cheese instant mac and 3098 03:11:00,960 --> 03:11:05,070 cheese. Yeah. That's a big blue box. And there's 800 packets in 3099 03:11:05,070 --> 03:11:11,070 there. And with Miss mickey out of town, and I was just doing 3100 03:11:11,070 --> 03:11:13,200 stuff I'm I'm going to make one of these. 3101 03:11:14,190 --> 03:11:17,520 Oh, you should you should you'll be up so I did 3102 03:11:19,020 --> 03:11:21,750 want to tell you about the experience. Yeah, I want to hear 3103 03:11:21,780 --> 03:11:25,380 there's three steps on the on the packaging. And there's the 3104 03:11:25,380 --> 03:11:30,300 package package is a cellophane wrapped. And then one part is 3105 03:11:30,300 --> 03:11:35,850 the what I think is macaroni it's hardened plastic look 3106 03:11:35,850 --> 03:11:39,570 alikes. Classified elbows, elbows, right. And then there's 3107 03:11:39,570 --> 03:11:43,740 another packet which has the instructions on it. And then as 3108 03:11:43,740 --> 03:11:46,830 a packet as you know, one of the silver foil and on the inside 3109 03:11:46,830 --> 03:11:50,760 just writing on the outside of flavorings it well. No, that is 3110 03:11:50,760 --> 03:11:54,270 the cheese mix. Oh, okay, the whole thing. And the 3111 03:11:54,270 --> 03:11:58,260 instructions say first you take the three quarters of a cup of 3112 03:11:58,260 --> 03:12:02,790 water and add that to the to these things that are apparently 3113 03:12:02,790 --> 03:12:07,080 macaroni. Yes. And you put that in the microwave for three and a 3114 03:12:07,080 --> 03:12:10,320 half to four minutes. Okay? Or until 3115 03:12:10,380 --> 03:12:13,320 the macro can boil this on a stovetop because I don't eat 3116 03:12:13,350 --> 03:12:13,890 Mike. I'm 3117 03:12:13,890 --> 03:12:17,760 giving you the instructions. I followed. I'm a rule follower. 3118 03:12:17,880 --> 03:12:22,110 Yeah. I after three minutes, I checked and I felt they were al 3119 03:12:22,110 --> 03:12:27,450 denty which are those away. I like my mac and cheese. And then 3120 03:12:27,450 --> 03:12:31,170 it says do not if there's excess water do not add big letters. Do 3121 03:12:31,170 --> 03:12:35,670 not remove the excess water. You will need this to make the 3122 03:12:36,390 --> 03:12:39,600 cheese. Yes, yes, that would make sense. So you 3123 03:12:39,600 --> 03:12:43,680 pour the packet in. Then then you stir stir stir and 3124 03:12:43,890 --> 03:12:53,130 miraculously, voila. I actually say Voila, mac and cheese now we 3125 03:12:53,130 --> 03:12:56,100 had a couple guys who had to repaint something in the house. 3126 03:12:56,340 --> 03:13:00,450 The landlord had sent him by and they looked at me as I'm doing 3127 03:13:00,450 --> 03:13:02,910 this. I'm finishing this up but they're walking Mexican guys. 3128 03:13:03,030 --> 03:13:06,120 They looked at me and went Are you fucking crazy? Are you going 3129 03:13:06,120 --> 03:13:07,020 to eat that shit? 3130 03:13:08,400 --> 03:13:11,970 To Mexican workers? Yeah. said this to you. Yes. 3131 03:13:12,000 --> 03:13:14,820 They said you don't eat that man. And and of course I did 3132 03:13:14,820 --> 03:13:20,910 because I do not eat that. Man you okay? Hey, man, we take you 3133 03:13:20,910 --> 03:13:24,690 out for some tacos. Don't eat a man don't eat that will pay. And 3134 03:13:24,690 --> 03:13:31,530 I ate it. Yes. And it had such a chemical taste. Oh, yeah. Yeah. 3135 03:13:31,980 --> 03:13:37,410 And when you finish it, and the bowl will not clean. Oh, it's 3136 03:13:37,410 --> 03:13:40,050 like a glue. And there's more like a paint 3137 03:13:40,830 --> 03:13:42,810 like a paint you ate paint pink. 3138 03:13:43,530 --> 03:13:46,200 So that was it. This is not a good this is not an outstanding 3139 03:13:46,200 --> 03:13:49,290 product. It is not to be consumed by human beings or 3140 03:13:49,290 --> 03:13:50,760 anything with a heart. 3141 03:13:53,490 --> 03:13:55,680 Yeah, it'll probably take you a month to get that out of your 3142 03:13:55,680 --> 03:13:58,890 system. I got an email a lot of wine that'll help 3143 03:13:58,920 --> 03:14:02,340 I got an email about your recall your question of the mac and 3144 03:14:02,340 --> 03:14:06,600 cheese for Thanksgiving. Yeah, this has now been confirmed by 3145 03:14:06,600 --> 03:14:10,890 multiple sources that this is an is indeed a black thing. This is 3146 03:14:10,890 --> 03:14:14,220 where it started. But this is from John Calvin Jones, who I've 3147 03:14:14,220 --> 03:14:18,450 been conversing with for a long time. Had no idea what color 3148 03:14:18,450 --> 03:14:21,960 skin is, was it will be and I never cared. Adam just finished 3149 03:14:21,960 --> 03:14:26,430 listening to any show. 645 my father born in 1928 always made 3150 03:14:26,430 --> 03:14:28,890 macaroni and cheese for Thanksgiving from scratch. He 3151 03:14:28,890 --> 03:14:33,840 used sharp cheddar only no Velveeta that is not cheese. I 3152 03:14:33,840 --> 03:14:36,270 did not think that it was a depression issue. His father was 3153 03:14:36,270 --> 03:14:38,820 a professor and a college president. But I imagined that 3154 03:14:38,820 --> 03:14:41,790 was a standard for Sunday's when my father's mother Vivian and 3155 03:14:41,790 --> 03:14:44,160 five of her siblings and the children would meet and have a 3156 03:14:44,160 --> 03:14:47,130 potluck after church, I'm guessing was a good dish for one 3157 03:14:47,130 --> 03:14:49,590 of the aunties to give the chick kids and a cheap way to feed 3158 03:14:49,590 --> 03:14:53,970 about eight instead of baking another ham or chicken. And then 3159 03:14:54,990 --> 03:14:57,810 I said yes, we're not answering the question. Are you black? And 3160 03:14:57,810 --> 03:15:00,300 he says yes, sorry if my references were too subtle. My 3161 03:15:00,300 --> 03:15:03,120 father's maternal grandfather was born a slave in the early 3162 03:15:03,120 --> 03:15:06,330 1860s. And in the United States, they were in South Carolina, 3163 03:15:06,330 --> 03:15:09,390 North Carolina by the 1950s migrated to New York City Gary, 3164 03:15:09,390 --> 03:15:12,870 Indiana and Los Angeles. So yes, we are and my father's cooking 3165 03:15:12,870 --> 03:15:17,010 was southern soul food. And yes, this is a this is a black thing 3166 03:15:17,010 --> 03:15:21,210 for Thanksgiving and but not cook shit. It is done with great 3167 03:15:21,210 --> 03:15:24,840 pride and secret recipes, family recipes that date back to the 3168 03:15:24,840 --> 03:15:25,890 days of slavery. 3169 03:15:27,480 --> 03:15:28,920 Well, okay. 3170 03:15:29,940 --> 03:15:32,190 And I'm going to be asking my black friends and asked I would 3171 03:15:32,190 --> 03:15:34,800 like to ask him to give us the seasoning. The secret 3172 03:15:34,800 --> 03:15:37,530 recipe. Oh, yeah. Not gonna hurt. 3173 03:15:38,910 --> 03:15:41,730 There are people that like mac and cheese. Apparently, 3174 03:15:42,060 --> 03:15:45,150 a lot of them are black. Not not that not for them craft. 3175 03:15:45,270 --> 03:15:48,600 No, no, no, that's never gonna be good. One more clip here from 3176 03:15:48,690 --> 03:15:50,850 but there's the second half of the clip with his dingbat 3177 03:15:50,850 --> 03:15:52,170 chicken so we might as well play it. 3178 03:15:52,200 --> 03:15:56,250 So I have the ingredients here. We are going to be using some 3179 03:15:56,250 --> 03:16:01,890 milk, cottage cheese, grated cheddar cheese, brown rice 3180 03:16:01,890 --> 03:16:05,370 pasta, but feel free to use whatever pasta you'd like. I 3181 03:16:05,370 --> 03:16:08,910 just really like brown rice pasta, some cayenne pepper, 3182 03:16:09,240 --> 03:16:15,810 regular salt and pepper, ground mustard, nutmeg, and some 3183 03:16:15,810 --> 03:16:20,040 butter. And of course the star bake, 3184 03:16:21,030 --> 03:16:23,160 bake, bake 3185 03:16:25,440 --> 03:16:28,830 Yeah, it was tomorrow's mac and cheese day you can go online go 3186 03:16:28,830 --> 03:16:31,440 to the YouTube and you can find a million recipes for mac and 3187 03:16:31,440 --> 03:16:34,530 cheese all of them are just flaky and they're overseas and 3188 03:16:34,590 --> 03:16:37,290 they're trying to make something fancy I wish it should be cheap 3189 03:16:37,290 --> 03:16:45,480 cheddar and elbow macaroni that's that mac and cheese mac 3190 03:16:45,480 --> 03:16:51,090 and cheese by iron Rand I don't really have any more. 3191 03:16:51,720 --> 03:16:54,390 I have a clip to kind of play us out because I thought it was 3192 03:16:54,390 --> 03:16:58,680 funny. Yeah don't have a play out clip and have the the ash 3193 03:16:58,800 --> 03:16:59,700 crisis. 3194 03:17:00,300 --> 03:17:02,670 Oh yeah, this is gonna be fun for you. Now you were Pooh 3195 03:17:02,670 --> 03:17:07,260 poohing this in the last show. I was I was a bull crap this bull 3196 03:17:07,260 --> 03:17:10,140 crap and you're just wishful thinking Pooh poohing it the way 3197 03:17:10,140 --> 03:17:10,920 I see it now. It's 3198 03:17:10,920 --> 03:17:11,760 still bull crap. 3199 03:17:11,790 --> 03:17:13,770 You're gonna be stuck. 3200 03:17:13,800 --> 03:17:14,970 It's still bull crap. 3201 03:17:15,000 --> 03:17:15,990 You'll see. No, 3202 03:17:16,020 --> 03:17:18,870 I'm not saying that. I won't be stuck. But it's bull crap 3203 03:17:18,870 --> 03:17:21,390 because there's nothing there's nothing exploding it's you know, 3204 03:17:21,390 --> 03:17:21,990 scientists 3205 03:17:21,990 --> 03:17:25,080 from the Icelandic Met Office have been carefully monitoring 3206 03:17:25,080 --> 03:17:27,510 the volcano bada boom, on the air. 3207 03:17:27,840 --> 03:17:31,860 The Boombah Boombah the volcano What is this wall Kinos name? 3208 03:17:32,610 --> 03:17:33,660 The booga booga. 3209 03:17:36,690 --> 03:17:37,560 booga booga 3210 03:17:37,590 --> 03:17:40,800 scientists from the Icelandic Met Office have been carefully 3211 03:17:40,800 --> 03:17:44,250 monitoring the volcano bada boom bada from the air building a 3212 03:17:44,250 --> 03:17:47,880 bunker the ice bada boom dango Boom shaka laka. Boom. The 3213 03:17:47,880 --> 03:17:52,410 glazier may look deceptively calm. But beneath the glass 3214 03:17:52,410 --> 03:17:56,310 here, the earth is moving. And the lava has started erupting. 3215 03:17:56,400 --> 03:18:00,360 So this is exactly what our producer said in Boca you Oh, 3216 03:18:00,360 --> 03:18:04,920 you can't see it, but it's happening. I have thoughts about 3217 03:18:04,920 --> 03:18:05,400 this. 3218 03:18:05,519 --> 03:18:10,469 If the lava reaches the surface, it can send huge ash flows to 3219 03:18:10,469 --> 03:18:14,759 the atmosphere as clouds. Icelanders issued an alert for 3220 03:18:14,759 --> 03:18:19,079 the aviation industry. Current aviation color code of butter 3221 03:18:19,079 --> 03:18:20,939 booga is read the current 3222 03:18:20,940 --> 03:18:24,510 aviation cloud for bada boom, Bada is read. I don't need to 3223 03:18:24,510 --> 03:18:28,050 know any more. I'm frightened to death. Yeah, this should be this 3224 03:18:28,050 --> 03:18:33,090 is what is happening. This needs to be seen in relation to 3225 03:18:33,840 --> 03:18:38,160 Ukraine and Russia and jets flying around. This is a 3226 03:18:38,190 --> 03:18:41,700 takeover. There is a need and necessity for control of 3227 03:18:41,700 --> 03:18:46,830 European airspace. We don't know why yet. We don't know why. But 3228 03:18:46,830 --> 03:18:49,650 this is being used just like the last time. 3229 03:18:50,250 --> 03:18:52,680 Well then I do have a clip to take us out on something a 3230 03:18:52,680 --> 03:18:53,760 little lighter. 3231 03:18:54,960 --> 03:18:56,550 But you're not flying tomorrow. 3232 03:18:56,610 --> 03:18:59,880 It's a 15 second commercial though with Johnny Bench 3233 03:19:00,060 --> 03:19:02,970 promoting blue emu and I've never heard a commercial in my 3234 03:19:02,970 --> 03:19:04,920 life with this particular kicker. 3235 03:19:05,699 --> 03:19:08,909 I've used blue emu for over 10 years now. It's made with really 3236 03:19:08,909 --> 03:19:11,909 mula it's a non greasy deep penetrating formula that works 3237 03:19:11,909 --> 03:19:15,209 itself down into my joy and for all those hard to reach aches 3238 03:19:15,209 --> 03:19:18,539 and pains now there's blue emu pain relief spray take it for me 3239 03:19:18,539 --> 03:19:20,609 it works fast and you won't stink 3240 03:19:24,450 --> 03:19:26,010 you know I 3241 03:19:26,910 --> 03:19:31,410 can't even say it in the show. Best podcast in the universe 3242 03:19:31,950 --> 03:19:32,760 roams. 3243 03:19:39,690 --> 03:19:42,270 Advertising yard me. 3244 03:19:43,170 --> 03:19:45,840 Oh, my joins her I need some bluey. 3245 03:19:47,340 --> 03:19:51,000 Do you think that there's other forms of blue emu? 3246 03:19:51,330 --> 03:19:54,390 I assume that some of them make you stink and this was the this 3247 03:19:54,390 --> 03:19:58,230 was the high point. learn this lesson. 3248 03:20:01,350 --> 03:20:06,000 Ah, thank you. That was very funny. 3249 03:20:07,440 --> 03:20:08,850 It worked for me good. We're done. 3250 03:20:09,300 --> 03:20:11,040 We're done. I don't have to get all annoyed. 3251 03:20:11,070 --> 03:20:12,480 We got our laugh in and 3252 03:20:12,480 --> 03:20:14,790 then we did well, we have nothing but laughs 3253 03:20:16,199 --> 03:20:17,519 The whole show was a comedy show. 3254 03:20:21,360 --> 03:20:28,830 If you notice, I do put the comedy tag in iTunes. Somehow 3255 03:20:28,830 --> 03:20:33,060 we're not really receiving the accolades we deserve. But okay, 3256 03:20:33,240 --> 03:20:36,810 it's what it is. Thank you all very much for 3257 03:20:37,140 --> 03:20:38,970 those guys laugh at beheadings 3258 03:20:39,870 --> 03:20:44,100 DO NOT FUNNY eight holes or whatever people are horrible 3259 03:20:44,100 --> 03:20:50,190 people. Alright, thank you all very much for contributing Miss 3260 03:20:50,190 --> 03:20:54,450 mica and I flying to the lowlands of Amsterdam, where she 3261 03:20:54,450 --> 03:20:55,560 will ask the question 3262 03:20:57,060 --> 03:20:59,970 why am I married to this guy? And we are good. 3263 03:20:59,970 --> 03:21:05,040 We are. We are the Laurel and Hardy of podcasting. Coming to 3264 03:21:05,040 --> 03:21:08,970 you from FEMA Region six in the capital of the drone Star State 3265 03:21:08,970 --> 03:21:11,490 in the morning everybody. My name is Adam curry. 3266 03:21:11,699 --> 03:21:15,059 I'm from Northern Silicon Valley where it's foggy again, which is 3267 03:21:15,059 --> 03:21:17,879 California weather by the way, especially up here I'm John C. 3268 03:21:17,879 --> 03:21:18,809 Dvorak and we'll be back 3269 03:21:18,810 --> 03:21:23,760 on Thursday if everything goes according to plan right here on 3270 03:21:23,760 --> 03:21:24,540 no agenda. 3271 03:21:43,770 --> 03:21:47,490 I'm Joe Biden and thank you for taking the time to listen. Adios 3272 03:21:47,550 --> 03:21:55,680 MoPhO to vorak.org/n A