1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,420 throttle them. Let's throttle them less throttle them. Adam 2 00:00:03,420 --> 00:00:05,130 curry, John C. Dvorak. 3 00:00:05,190 --> 00:00:09,240 It's Thursday November 13 2014. Time for your gizmo nation media 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:15,330 assassination episode 669 earth this is no agenda enjoying the 5 00:00:15,330 --> 00:00:18,330 cyclogenesis here in FEMA Region six in the capital of the drone 6 00:00:18,330 --> 00:00:21,390 Star State Austin chaos in the morning everybody. I'm Adam 7 00:00:21,390 --> 00:00:21,840 curry 8 00:00:21,870 --> 00:00:26,160 and from Northern Silicon Valley was a strain late stress strain. 9 00:00:26,820 --> 00:00:30,690 Nevermind, I'm John C. Dvorak. Kill. 10 00:00:33,090 --> 00:00:35,640 Don't drink that little setup. Don't drink before the show, 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:35,910 man. 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,380 I drink water. 13 00:00:37,740 --> 00:00:39,540 What did you want to say? What did you want 14 00:00:39,540 --> 00:00:42,450 to say? There's this strange liquid falling from the sky 15 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:46,830 called Snow. I don't know what it is. It's rain. It's raining. 16 00:00:46,890 --> 00:00:47,910 It's raining as we speak. 17 00:00:47,910 --> 00:00:51,030 34 degrees Fahrenheit here in Austin. 18 00:00:51,540 --> 00:00:57,030 Wow, nice. By the way, that high in Denver was minus nine. 19 00:00:57,180 --> 00:01:03,270 This is the first of all this is global warming, obviously. No 20 00:01:03,270 --> 00:01:08,130 doubt about it. And I was I was listening. Actually, I was 21 00:01:08,130 --> 00:01:10,590 watching Michio Kaku, 22 00:01:11,250 --> 00:01:13,530 I hate that guy. If you don't really hate 23 00:01:13,530 --> 00:01:16,380 Him, He's entertaining because he's a goofy. 24 00:01:16,890 --> 00:01:21,510 He's very goofy. And he said, fool of himself to ask that I 25 00:01:21,510 --> 00:01:22,620 don't dislike 26 00:01:22,650 --> 00:01:25,710 Well, of course. So he's always on the CBS Morning Show with 27 00:01:25,710 --> 00:01:29,700 Oprah's girlfriend and, and Charlie Rose. Who was drunk 28 00:01:29,700 --> 00:01:30,090 still. 29 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,600 Generally Yeah, Charlie, I think we should drink that guy's 30 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,250 making so much money on that show. 31 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,180 That's why he's drunk. 32 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:41,580 And he's just tired. Here's you gotta have a four in the morning 33 00:01:41,580 --> 00:01:42,840 to do that show and yeah earlier 34 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,680 No, no, you have to be there by for for his hair and makeup and 35 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,540 I don't know he might not live in the city. If he lives in the 36 00:01:48,540 --> 00:01:51,000 city. It's okay if he comes from outside and he's up at two 37 00:01:51,270 --> 00:01:55,230 hours. Okay, you got to get up at three 232 30 38 00:01:55,260 --> 00:01:58,740 Most people get up at 230 This is no life. I've done morning 39 00:01:58,740 --> 00:02:02,460 radio shows in the morning radio show. You can just fall out of 40 00:02:02,460 --> 00:02:05,010 bed you have to do hair and makeup and I mean I've smoked my 41 00:02:05,010 --> 00:02:08,220 first joint before I was at the studio was still it's a very 42 00:02:08,220 --> 00:02:10,350 challenging life because you haven't you really have to go to 43 00:02:10,350 --> 00:02:14,760 bed at eight and I had to sleep in a separate bedroom 44 00:02:18,090 --> 00:02:19,620 Yeah, you can't wake everybody up. 45 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,210 Alright, here's Kaku on talking about this arctic blast. CBS 46 00:02:24,210 --> 00:02:24,450 News 47 00:02:24,450 --> 00:02:27,870 contributor Michio Kaku is with us. He's at is a physics 48 00:02:27,870 --> 00:02:30,240 professor at the City University of New York. Good morning. 49 00:02:30,330 --> 00:02:32,700 Morning. Tell us exactly what this is. 50 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,930 Well superstorm no repacks more energy than Hurricane Sandy. 51 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:42,420 Oh, it was not a hurricane you aihole Sandy was a superstorm it 52 00:02:42,420 --> 00:02:44,850 was never a class it never classified as a hurricane but 53 00:02:44,850 --> 00:02:45,780 they said more punch 54 00:02:45,810 --> 00:02:49,740 is headed our way and we are in the bullseye. This weekend it's 55 00:02:49,740 --> 00:02:54,900 gonna plow into Alaska creating 50 foot waves by midweek all 56 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:59,220 hell breaks loose gonna collide with the Jetstream pushing 57 00:02:59,250 --> 00:03:03,450 arctic air all the way down perhaps as low as Florida. Now 58 00:03:03,450 --> 00:03:05,820 remember the polar vortex of last year? 59 00:03:05,850 --> 00:03:09,030 Yes, you've come up with a new bull crap line. 60 00:03:09,959 --> 00:03:12,599 Did he say ship polar vortex and laughed as you think that's 61 00:03:12,599 --> 00:03:13,109 funny? 62 00:03:13,380 --> 00:03:16,110 Yes, because he knows that this is bullcrap. And they've just 63 00:03:16,110 --> 00:03:19,440 come up with a new name. Because you can't if he's a polar vortex 64 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,410 again last time it was a mistake by the way. I don't think all 65 00:03:22,410 --> 00:03:27,000 hell has broken loose. It's cold but all hell has broken loose. 66 00:03:27,870 --> 00:03:30,660 What kind of hell are we talking about? I think we're flying to 67 00:03:30,660 --> 00:03:35,670 New York tomorrow. And I have no no one's freaking out. Oh, hell 68 00:03:35,670 --> 00:03:37,650 has broke It's cold but not hell has not 69 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,150 been cold before pushing arctic air all the way down perhaps as 70 00:03:42,150 --> 00:03:47,250 low as Florida. Now remember the polar vortex of last year? But 71 00:03:47,250 --> 00:03:50,550 he laughed. He knew. I remember that bowl. This is different. 72 00:03:50,550 --> 00:03:54,330 There's a name for this is called Bombo Genesis. That's a 73 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,900 geek talk for when pressures suddenly dropped when you have 74 00:03:57,900 --> 00:04:02,280 hot air cold air colliding. Like what we're gonna see over Canada 75 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,670 and the American Midwest. Plunging temperatures perhaps 76 00:04:05,670 --> 00:04:07,050 three degrees below normal. 77 00:04:07,740 --> 00:04:12,600 When I looked this up this Bombo Genesis mumbo jumbo? Yeah, and 78 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,730 it is really just a different a new word for cyclogenesis which 79 00:04:17,730 --> 00:04:19,260 is rapid or extreme. 80 00:04:19,860 --> 00:04:22,080 Will I but they changed the word because they liked the words 81 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,640 funny. Yes, funnier. 82 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,630 It's funny. Well, really it's rapid or extreme cyclogenesis 83 00:04:27,630 --> 00:04:31,500 which is characterized by barometric pressure drop of 24 84 00:04:31,500 --> 00:04:36,840 millibars in a 24 hour period. So what but he's, he's the polar 85 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:42,750 vortex was that word was an explanation of what happened 86 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:49,230 with the with the jet stream and why the weather changed. Bombo 87 00:04:49,230 --> 00:04:52,830 Genesis or extreme cyclogenesis is not an explanation of why 88 00:04:52,830 --> 00:04:58,050 it's happening. It's just a name for the result. You catch my 89 00:04:58,050 --> 00:04:58,590 drift? 90 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,150 Yeah, no, he's just mixing Is his analysis actually just uh, 91 00:05:03,180 --> 00:05:06,240 just to sounds you know good people, I 92 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,390 can't actually give an explanation for it. I think 93 00:05:09,390 --> 00:05:11,670 that's what it is. This is what it is. It's called bomba 94 00:05:11,670 --> 00:05:14,880 Genesis, but he can't actually tell us why. And we know he 95 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,360 can't use the polar vortex because that was an anomaly all 96 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:23,760 part of climate change, global warming, manmade global warming 97 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,710 as plunging temperatures perhaps three degrees below normal. 98 00:05:28,890 --> 00:05:31,080 Wow, best and worst case scenarios. 99 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,350 In the best case scenario simply means take out your rubber boots 100 00:05:34,350 --> 00:05:38,130 and mufflers and just hunker down in a worst case scenario. 101 00:05:38,790 --> 00:05:42,750 Shelter in Place, it could mean a deep freeze it means airlines 102 00:05:42,750 --> 00:05:44,640 are canceling flights left and right. 103 00:05:44,670 --> 00:05:48,420 You don't have to cancel a flight for cold weather. Deep 104 00:05:48,420 --> 00:05:49,200 Freeze. 105 00:05:49,290 --> 00:05:52,770 It means transportation being disrupted train schedules being 106 00:05:52,770 --> 00:05:56,460 dressed up disrupted people's schedules being thrown on 107 00:05:56,460 --> 00:05:59,190 kilter. So we're talking about a massive disruption which will 108 00:05:59,190 --> 00:06:02,580 peak around November 13 to November 15. 109 00:06:02,729 --> 00:06:06,689 Today John is pagan but it's pagan the rest 110 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,380 of November longer 111 00:06:10,380 --> 00:06:14,310 we think this is gonna last alright, I'm looking at the top 112 00:06:14,310 --> 00:06:20,160 stories today. I do not see transportation. The I do not see 113 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:25,740 airlines thrown in off kilter. I see I see the extreme storms of 114 00:06:25,740 --> 00:06:26,520 Uranus 115 00:06:27,450 --> 00:06:30,360 as a hey get this guy off the air Yeah, yeah, 116 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:35,820 it's just it's just this is what he does it make you Oh, through 117 00:06:35,820 --> 00:06:37,740 the rest of the month and into December 118 00:06:37,770 --> 00:06:42,570 well, it peaks mid week next week so expect several days of 119 00:06:42,570 --> 00:06:45,540 pretty miserable weather miserable but then ripples we're 120 00:06:45,540 --> 00:06:48,330 both will probably be with us for the the end of the month. 121 00:06:48,660 --> 00:06:49,680 That means that our 122 00:06:50,340 --> 00:06:53,100 winner is going to be horrific and we should just hide now. 123 00:06:54,660 --> 00:06:57,330 Well, it means we're going to have another episode of the 124 00:06:57,330 --> 00:07:00,990 polar vortex and you know, used to it because it because it's 125 00:07:01,020 --> 00:07:01,440 glowing. 126 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:05,610 Now happened every year forever 127 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:08,760 changing. It means that on average, we're going to see more 128 00:07:08,820 --> 00:07:12,450 violent swings. All right, Professor Kaku with the bumbo 129 00:07:12,450 --> 00:07:13,020 Genesis. 130 00:07:16,650 --> 00:07:20,340 Of course, it's it's all kinds of nutty stuff. This morning. I 131 00:07:20,340 --> 00:07:24,240 must have gotten four clips off of CNN. And this is a short one. 132 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,810 And then I'll get off of this is bullcrap. So now, of course, we 133 00:07:27,810 --> 00:07:31,710 have a Republican controlled Congress, both the House and the 134 00:07:31,710 --> 00:07:32,220 Senate. 135 00:07:32,460 --> 00:07:35,850 That's the reason for the weather. Well, the 136 00:07:36,690 --> 00:07:42,660 today the house I think is debating the key XL Pipeline. 137 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,930 Now of course, you know, this is what you want to do when you 138 00:07:45,930 --> 00:07:52,620 have pro pipe liners in majority in both houses. Well, they don't 139 00:07:52,620 --> 00:07:56,160 until January true. But this is just the conversation they're 140 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,450 getting started, ya know, 141 00:07:57,450 --> 00:08:00,750 as far as I know that. That woman that got that Mary 142 00:08:00,750 --> 00:08:04,290 Landrieu whose guy has a runoff coming? Yeah, she's decided to 143 00:08:04,290 --> 00:08:08,370 jump into the fray. And she's the one who's pushing it in, in 144 00:08:08,370 --> 00:08:10,080 the Senate because right now is the only time 145 00:08:10,110 --> 00:08:13,290 the only time they can block it. Okay. That's good. Okay, that 146 00:08:13,290 --> 00:08:18,930 makes sense. Makes sense? Well, Carol, CNN, cnn.com/carol, CNN, 147 00:08:18,930 --> 00:08:20,550 facebook.com/carol, CNN. 148 00:08:21,270 --> 00:08:22,800 Woman I can never see again. 149 00:08:24,210 --> 00:08:31,560 She had an ad. Right. She had Robert Zimmerman on, who of 150 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:37,410 course, is a Democratic strategist. And Ron Christie. I 151 00:08:37,410 --> 00:08:42,000 think he was an advisor to George W. Bush. So the typical 152 00:08:42,090 --> 00:08:46,710 left right. bullcrap. But what I found interesting is listen to 153 00:08:46,710 --> 00:08:53,460 Carol, CNN, facebook.com/carol, CNN, when the 98 that are 154 00:08:53,460 --> 00:08:58,590 actually global warming comes up. And the Christie guy says 155 00:08:58,590 --> 00:09:01,350 that the Earth has been cooling for the past decade, which as 156 00:09:01,350 --> 00:09:06,420 far as I know, from the evidence I've seen is true. It is, at 157 00:09:06,420 --> 00:09:10,800 best a general stop in the in the rise in temperature, and 158 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,610 we're talking very infant decimal amounts. But everything 159 00:09:14,610 --> 00:09:17,700 I've seen says it is so cooling. Is this the same? You're seeing 160 00:09:17,730 --> 00:09:18,690 professional work? 161 00:09:18,990 --> 00:09:24,570 Well, I mean, if you look at the actual here's what gets me one, 162 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,020 you'll get one group that has these numbers and the numbers 163 00:09:28,020 --> 00:09:30,810 show at schooling and then the other group has different 164 00:09:30,810 --> 00:09:33,720 numbers. Can somebody decide on which numbers we're supposed to 165 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,060 be looking at, but from what I can tell nothing's going on. 166 00:09:36,060 --> 00:09:36,510 Okay. 167 00:09:36,630 --> 00:09:41,850 Well, regardless, Carol's response is just as as a 168 00:09:41,850 --> 00:09:47,460 journalist or a news reader or a news model, maybe we should call 169 00:09:47,460 --> 00:09:47,790 her that 170 00:09:47,820 --> 00:09:50,910 problem is ROMs. friends in Congress, the Republican members 171 00:09:50,910 --> 00:09:53,580 don't believe in climate change. And for that matter, they don't 172 00:09:53,580 --> 00:09:56,190 believe in science. The new energy the new environmental 173 00:09:56,190 --> 00:09:59,190 Chairman James Inhofe says God handles the climate. It's up to 174 00:09:59,190 --> 00:10:01,140 us to get involved with that, well we believe in 175 00:10:01,140 --> 00:10:03,450 science, but we don't believe in global climate change. So you're 176 00:10:03,450 --> 00:10:05,820 right because the planet has actually cooled the last decade 177 00:10:05,820 --> 00:10:09,090 not gotten warmer. But here's the thing that I think we will 178 00:10:09,090 --> 00:10:14,250 agree on. Oh, come on. Come on really? Early here. We now 179 00:10:14,250 --> 00:10:16,470 know we have 98% of scientists and 180 00:10:18,060 --> 00:10:22,080 she's gotten instead of 97 Now it's 98 90% of 181 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,690 scientists who are 2% Oh, I 182 00:10:24,690 --> 00:10:33,480 don't know date right and by the 98% figure we've seen what was 183 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,260 your source rush limbaugh was your source Rush Limbaugh now I 184 00:10:37,260 --> 00:10:41,190 know this they're kind of this the argument throwing at us Yes. 185 00:10:41,370 --> 00:10:45,480 Is this your source Rush Limbaugh Rush Limbaugh that's 186 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,630 it. Well, here's what's interesting to me is that this 187 00:10:48,750 --> 00:10:51,330 you know, I still would like to get to the bottom of the hold on 188 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:52,710 who's your source Rush Limbaugh 189 00:10:53,100 --> 00:10:58,230 yeah. You're right. I I'm listening to O'Reilly. Oh, who's 190 00:10:58,230 --> 00:11:01,290 your source O'Reilly man can I say this was your source 191 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,190 O'Reilly 192 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,220 All right. Well, if my sources O'Reilly had been the wrong side 193 00:11:05,220 --> 00:11:08,640 of the argument, listen to this and tell me this is not a little 194 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,660 subtle propaganda. O'Reilly slips on this idiot who's like, 195 00:11:12,690 --> 00:11:15,390 you know, presents these posts to come on to analyze the 196 00:11:15,390 --> 00:11:19,020 Republican victories and he's from some read stays a blogger 197 00:11:19,050 --> 00:11:20,730 go Exelon administration. 198 00:11:21,090 --> 00:11:24,480 In China, President Obama has announced that the USA and the 199 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:29,850 Chinese will work together, work together to cut carbon emissions 200 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,240 by many to provoke global warming. The President calls the 201 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,470 agreement historic. Others say it's a huge con. Joining us now 202 00:11:37,470 --> 00:11:39,300 from Macon, Georgia. Eric Erickson, who runs a 203 00:11:39,300 --> 00:11:42,990 conservative blog red state.com. First of all, are you a non 204 00:11:42,990 --> 00:11:45,720 believer in global warning? Warming? Mr. Erickson? 205 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,600 Oh, I think the world's been warming and cooling for several 206 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,660 billion years. So I would put myself in the natural phenomenon 207 00:11:51,660 --> 00:11:52,740 camp. All right. So 208 00:11:52,740 --> 00:11:56,100 you feel it's a cycle of nature, but carbon emissions have 209 00:11:56,100 --> 00:11:59,520 nothing to do with it. If they have something to do with it and 210 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,940 miniscule, okay, now, you know, that runs counter to most 211 00:12:02,940 --> 00:12:06,270 scientific opinion. And you know, he's an opinion, as I 212 00:12:06,270 --> 00:12:09,390 always say, you can't prove it one way or the other. Nobody can 213 00:12:09,390 --> 00:12:12,120 prove this. So it's foolish to get upset about it. 214 00:12:12,510 --> 00:12:17,310 So here's what he does. He slips in this most scientists read did 215 00:12:17,370 --> 00:12:20,760 the other guy who was obviously a dummy should have said, Well, 216 00:12:20,910 --> 00:12:24,540 are you familiar with the petition of 30,000 actual 217 00:12:24,540 --> 00:12:28,860 climate scientists that say this is bullcrap the petition that 218 00:12:28,860 --> 00:12:31,800 was presented before Congress and ignored the position, the 219 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,980 petition that was discussed in that White House, the guy who 220 00:12:35,850 --> 00:12:38,160 ignored her White House from northern islands were ignored 221 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,330 it, ignored it. That's what he should have said, because there 222 00:12:42,330 --> 00:12:45,900 is no evidence. And then, of course, our own show, you show 223 00:12:45,900 --> 00:12:50,520 that the 97% number was derived in a very bogus fashion from 224 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,750 Rush Limbaugh from Rush Limbaugh. And this is what's 225 00:12:54,750 --> 00:12:57,360 going on this is the discourse, the discourse is there are 226 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,070 30,000 people that have signed 227 00:12:59,490 --> 00:13:02,760 31 by 30, or 32,000. A lot well, 228 00:13:03,450 --> 00:13:08,460 over 30,000, let's say 30,000 of these guys, and we find and then 229 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:14,040 the other side, which whose argument is Rush Limbaugh, and 230 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,250 you and it's just beyond me. And then O'Reilly is in on this. Of 231 00:13:17,250 --> 00:13:20,640 course, we've always questioned his real motives. It is 232 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:28,740 31,487 American scientists, including 9029 with PhDs showing 233 00:13:28,740 --> 00:13:32,070 how do we get to the habit right here. We urge the United States 234 00:13:32,070 --> 00:13:34,710 government to reject the global warming agreement that was 235 00:13:34,710 --> 00:13:38,160 written in Kyoto Japan in December 1997 Any other similar 236 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,880 protocols? The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm 237 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,740 the environment hindered the advance of science and 238 00:13:43,740 --> 00:13:47,040 technology and damage the health and welfare of mankind. There is 239 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,920 no convincing scientific evidence that human release of 240 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,940 carbon dioxide methane or other greenhouse gases in cause or 241 00:13:53,940 --> 00:13:58,230 will in the it's causing or will in the foreseeable future, cause 242 00:13:58,230 --> 00:14:00,570 catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and 243 00:14:00,570 --> 00:14:03,780 disruption of the Earth's climate Moreover, there is 244 00:14:03,780 --> 00:14:06,930 substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric 245 00:14:06,930 --> 00:14:10,050 carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the 246 00:14:10,050 --> 00:14:16,710 natural plant and animal environments of the earth that's 247 00:14:17,340 --> 00:14:21,450 that's pretty pretty clear well written and is that you can't 248 00:14:21,540 --> 00:14:24,300 Well of course, it was the oil companies that bought these guys 249 00:14:24,300 --> 00:14:24,600 off 250 00:14:24,630 --> 00:14:32,790 Ah, you got to say it right. Right, the makeup of this let me 251 00:14:32,790 --> 00:14:37,080 see 3805 Scientists trained in specialties directly related to 252 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,020 the physical environments of the Earth, computer Mathematical 253 00:14:40,020 --> 00:14:43,290 Sciences, 935 of them who signed this physics and aerospace 254 00:14:43,290 --> 00:14:51,210 science 5812 chemistry 4822 biology in agriculture 2965 255 00:14:52,050 --> 00:14:55,200 that's of interest and all the names are here. Petition 256 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,470 project.org Alright, so I'm sorry, I didn't mean to 257 00:14:58,470 --> 00:15:00,930 interrupt you but I don't think I actually looked at 258 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:06,450 that information that's all good stuff on my point for me Rush 259 00:15:06,450 --> 00:15:13,140 Limbaugh astonishing to me that they allow this well, it's 260 00:15:13,140 --> 00:15:17,370 astonishing debate and and knee jerk reaction we have a number 261 00:15:17,370 --> 00:15:20,880 of listeners that every so often stop listening because we bring 262 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,720 this up one too many times for their case, because they cannot 263 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,830 get out of this this way of thinking No, they can't, you 264 00:15:28,830 --> 00:15:32,100 know, be open mindedness is just impossibly this is a good one. 265 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,030 This is one of the best things I've ever seen. I've never seen 266 00:15:36,030 --> 00:15:38,610 anything quite as effective. Something else happened. The 267 00:15:38,610 --> 00:15:39,810 next Al Gore. 268 00:15:39,870 --> 00:15:44,970 Yeah, well, initially Yeah. The climate science Legal Defense 269 00:15:44,970 --> 00:15:52,920 Fund, has hired a new executive director of the climate science 270 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,850 Legal Defense Fund is excited to announce the hiring of Lauren 271 00:15:56,850 --> 00:16:01,230 Kurtz as its first executive director. And she is joining 272 00:16:01,230 --> 00:16:05,490 from Decker dechert LLP top tier law firm where she was a 273 00:16:05,490 --> 00:16:08,880 litigator. There, she served as project manager on a high 274 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,330 profile $3 billion dollar litigation initiative. She 275 00:16:12,330 --> 00:16:14,700 represented commercial and individual clients on cases 276 00:16:14,700 --> 00:16:21,900 involving Freedom of Information Act FOIA requests. She was hired 277 00:16:21,900 --> 00:16:24,660 by the Board of Directors after a widely publicized summer 278 00:16:24,660 --> 00:16:28,950 fundraising campaign to grow the climate suck. What is it the 279 00:16:29,730 --> 00:16:31,890 climate science legal defense fund from an all volunteer 280 00:16:31,890 --> 00:16:36,210 organization to one with a full time professional staff? And 281 00:16:36,210 --> 00:16:37,620 there's got to be Koch brothers again. 282 00:16:39,510 --> 00:16:42,570 Well, that's interesting. Well, this brings us to the China 283 00:16:42,870 --> 00:16:45,300 Agreement, which Obama's Yeah. 284 00:16:45,330 --> 00:16:48,900 Which, which was have a couple of clips. I just wanted to read 285 00:16:48,900 --> 00:16:55,410 a quick email from one of our producers, who is in Australia, 286 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,730 and this is relevant because everyone's going to Brisbane 287 00:16:59,790 --> 00:17:06,570 right after all this China stuff with the G 20. And it's, it's a 288 00:17:07,020 --> 00:17:10,650 confusing and problematic for Tony Abbott, the prime minister, 289 00:17:10,950 --> 00:17:16,890 who has just abolished all carbon tax, and he's very much 290 00:17:16,890 --> 00:17:23,100 against the climate change position from the 97% of all 291 00:17:23,100 --> 00:17:27,750 scientists. And of course, all anyone can tell this is the g 292 00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:32,340 20. is not supposed to be about just about climate change, but 293 00:17:32,430 --> 00:17:38,790 because of this so called agreement. The entire media in 294 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,750 in Australia is all Oh, it's historic, we're going to say be 295 00:17:42,750 --> 00:17:46,080 saved. But well, we had the wrong guy running the ship. 296 00:17:49,860 --> 00:17:52,350 Things are never without reason, you know, 297 00:17:53,070 --> 00:17:56,670 there's always something going on. Alright. So Obama goes to 298 00:17:56,670 --> 00:18:03,450 China, and he makes an agreement with ping, who, whose agreement 299 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,080 apparently is? Well, actually, we can pick that kind of 300 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,500 explains it. Okay, let's play the China climate deal doing 301 00:18:10,500 --> 00:18:12,450 nothing clip. First significant 302 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,440 is it when you put together today's deal on climate change 303 00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:20,370 yesterday's deal on trade, given the state of relations between 304 00:18:20,370 --> 00:18:21,450 the US and China? 305 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,440 Well, certainly I think yesterday's deal on tariffs on 306 00:18:25,470 --> 00:18:29,100 information products is very, very important. This is going to 307 00:18:29,100 --> 00:18:32,370 affect American business in a very direct way. And if it 308 00:18:32,370 --> 00:18:36,480 indeed is implemented in the WTO, information technology 309 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,440 agreement next year, this is a major win. I'm not so sure about 310 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:45,180 climate change deal, though, because China's commitment was 311 00:18:45,210 --> 00:18:48,810 pretty vague in the White House factsheet. And also, the chawan 312 00:18:48,810 --> 00:18:53,100 news agency in their release, didn't talk about a climate cap 313 00:18:53,130 --> 00:18:56,880 in 2030. So I got to make sure we got to make sure that there 314 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,780 really is a deal here. And indeed, doing nothing for 16 315 00:19:00,780 --> 00:19:04,110 years, as Mitch McConnell says, and I very rarely quote, Mitch 316 00:19:04,110 --> 00:19:07,320 McConnell, but you know, doing nothing for 16 years is 317 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,960 politically unsustainable, not only in the United States, but 318 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,190 in other countries as well. 319 00:19:12,180 --> 00:19:15,780 Did he did the report say informational material? 320 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,800 There was two, you talk about the first agreement. Yeah. That 321 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,400 was that was the day before they agreed on some sort of it. Okay, 322 00:19:23,430 --> 00:19:26,520 information. Oh, okay. So we did get to something about 323 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,660 terrorists computers. Like that was different. And that was he 324 00:19:30,660 --> 00:19:33,120 thought was good. The second thing, which is the agreement 325 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:37,890 with the climate change, that Obama thinks is so great. Is the 326 00:19:37,890 --> 00:19:41,670 China the agreement is from the Chinese perspective, we're not 327 00:19:41,670 --> 00:19:45,180 doing anything for 16 years. Yeah. And then that's when they 328 00:19:45,180 --> 00:19:47,850 claim they're going to naturally start to drop Yeah, because 329 00:19:48,330 --> 00:19:50,490 they'll be done. Meanwhile, of course, then we can't have any 330 00:19:50,490 --> 00:19:54,150 of this sort of debate. So let's bring in the hagiography for 331 00:19:54,210 --> 00:19:59,970 Glenn iPhone, with some guy from I love Princeton and now and 332 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,580 With the backdrop, we always have to remember the backdrop. 333 00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:07,200 For the last I would say close to 20 years, every year has been 334 00:20:07,230 --> 00:20:10,890 the last chance before we won't be it's going to be 335 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,920 irreversible. I gotta I gotta be irreversible. We've been hearing 336 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,390 this every year. 337 00:20:15,420 --> 00:20:19,770 Remember the you remember the was it three? Was it 350 Or 338 00:20:19,770 --> 00:20:21,450 three sixty.org? 339 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,030 Right two parts per million, right? So, 340 00:20:24,690 --> 00:20:28,860 Jean as a surgeon here in Austin, he has one of those 341 00:20:29,370 --> 00:20:33,630 online weather thingies and then you can go on you can see what 342 00:20:33,630 --> 00:20:36,300 the conditions are inside his house and outside his house 343 00:20:36,510 --> 00:20:41,220 inside his house. He's got like 1000 parts per million of co2. I 344 00:20:41,220 --> 00:20:42,720 call him sometimes Are you dead? 345 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,590 No, but he's winning the climate is 346 00:20:46,590 --> 00:20:49,740 his house. That's the snakes that's running. What are we 347 00:20:49,740 --> 00:20:50,130 playing? 348 00:20:50,430 --> 00:20:54,240 So we're playing at China, Gwen and the apologists are eat 349 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,070 climate change. Whoo. Okay, 350 00:20:56,070 --> 00:20:56,490 good. 351 00:20:57,300 --> 00:20:59,910 Michael Oppenheimer is one of the many authors of the UN 352 00:20:59,910 --> 00:21:03,720 reports on climate change, and a professor of Geosciences and 353 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,600 International Affairs at the Woodrow Wilson School at 354 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,210 Princeton University. Welcome back to the News Hour. Thanks 355 00:21:09,210 --> 00:21:12,270 for having me how big a deal is this deal? This is huge. As 356 00:21:12,270 --> 00:21:15,960 far as I'm concerned. There are basically three reasons. One, 357 00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:20,820 the science, the science tells us, it has a chance of avoiding 358 00:21:20,820 --> 00:21:24,240 the climate Danger Zone, we've got to get the world's emissions 359 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,060 turned around, that is going down instead of going up 360 00:21:27,210 --> 00:21:32,520 sometime in the 2020 to 2030 timespan the Chinese benchmark 361 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:37,200 here of 2030 is consistent with that objective. Allow me to read 362 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,710 something just interject this danger zone climate science 363 00:21:40,710 --> 00:21:44,010 Defense Fund, just hired this top lawyer. All right, you've 364 00:21:44,010 --> 00:21:46,590 been looking at this. Clips. You know what this is? No, I'm 365 00:21:46,590 --> 00:21:49,920 listening to your clip I go on to at least I'm not clipping my 366 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:50,790 toenails. 367 00:21:50,940 --> 00:21:55,470 I don't never clip my toenails. I should admit this way. Let me 368 00:21:55,470 --> 00:21:59,040 get this down climate science defense fund.org. 369 00:21:59,430 --> 00:22:04,320 This organization is to was started to quote, climate 370 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,840 researchers are in need of immediate legal assistance to 371 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,420 prevent their private correspondence from being 372 00:22:09,420 --> 00:22:14,850 exposed. This Yeah, yeah, 373 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,690 yes, about climate gate. Yes, they're worried sick, that 374 00:22:18,690 --> 00:22:21,120 there's another smoking gun out there showing that this is a 375 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:26,340 scam for the individual scientists, top lawyer on it. So 376 00:22:26,340 --> 00:22:28,980 if anything happens, you will be in court. 377 00:22:29,159 --> 00:22:32,189 The scientific method is designed, designed around the 378 00:22:32,189 --> 00:22:35,729 belief that skepticism is good results should be subjected to 379 00:22:35,729 --> 00:22:38,819 the utmost scrutiny through the peer review process, followed by 380 00:22:38,819 --> 00:22:41,369 close examination and replication by others in the 381 00:22:41,369 --> 00:22:45,059 scientific community. Those who dies whose ideas do not live up 382 00:22:45,059 --> 00:22:47,879 to the standards of rigorous science have instead chosen to 383 00:22:47,879 --> 00:22:51,269 litigate. For the individual scientists, these legal actions 384 00:22:51,269 --> 00:22:54,329 are a painful burden, especially when it turns out you lied. 385 00:22:54,779 --> 00:22:57,569 Academic salaries were not designed to support ongoing 386 00:22:57,569 --> 00:23:04,289 legal expenses. Okay, I get it. Yes, protect through a strict 387 00:23:04,289 --> 00:23:05,579 legal framework protect 388 00:23:05,670 --> 00:23:09,000 that is the smokescreen for what's going on, which has got a 389 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,270 big, big ass lawyer to come in and do it. Okay. Yeah. And I'm 390 00:23:12,270 --> 00:23:16,770 sure that that lawyer will be able to do what's needed. And 391 00:23:16,770 --> 00:23:19,080 then you like they mentioned, went from a volunteer 392 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,980 organization to a bunch of pros. Yeah, that's a big difference. 393 00:23:24,660 --> 00:23:27,660 All right. I'm sorry, I didn't. It's important. All right. So 394 00:23:27,660 --> 00:23:32,520 I think I'm not complaining. Okay. Yeah. So Glen comes out 395 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,410 with this guy who thinks everything's great. And they sit 396 00:23:34,410 --> 00:23:37,140 and he goes on and on. He says, You should have well, the 397 00:23:37,140 --> 00:23:39,480 Chinese won't be doing anything until 2030. But we're still 398 00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:45,990 we're still within the climate change zone. Change zone, we're 399 00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:49,260 in the zone. So meanwhile, the other guys are going away. This 400 00:23:49,260 --> 00:23:52,080 is crazy. You know, he can't let the Chinese not do anything for 401 00:23:52,110 --> 00:23:54,930 16 years. And that's some sort of an agreement. And I'm not 402 00:23:54,930 --> 00:23:59,130 even going to do any anyone can agree to not do anything. All 403 00:23:59,130 --> 00:24:00,780 right. That is a scam. 404 00:24:01,860 --> 00:24:04,470 Yeah, well, well, well, deconstructed. 405 00:24:06,150 --> 00:24:08,520 Much as you can do. There was some interesting other little 406 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,040 things that came out of this Chinese spy started analyzing 407 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,880 this deals with China. The one that was interesting is this 408 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,720 one, I never knew this. This is this the same guy. This is the 409 00:24:18,750 --> 00:24:22,140 clip China internal strife. I don't know if we're familiar 410 00:24:22,140 --> 00:24:22,680 with this. 411 00:24:23,340 --> 00:24:26,190 It's going to be very important to see how China implements the 412 00:24:26,190 --> 00:24:28,920 agreements that it reached. And I actually think that the 413 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,610 political system now is in distress. Everyone says that si 414 00:24:32,610 --> 00:24:36,030 Jinping has quickly consolidated control in Beijing. But there 415 00:24:36,030 --> 00:24:39,360 are too many symptoms of problems, including the failure 416 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:43,140 to dispose of the issue of Jo Yong Kong, the former securities 417 00:24:43,140 --> 00:24:46,590 are and also this continuing series of loyalty oaths on the 418 00:24:46,590 --> 00:24:50,310 part of flag officers, which seems to be a symptom of 419 00:24:50,340 --> 00:24:54,510 disagreements in the People's Liberation Army. So it's seeking 420 00:24:54,510 --> 00:24:57,810 Ping i don't think has the consensus to be able to deal 421 00:24:57,810 --> 00:25:01,800 with the international community on A acceptable basis. And we 422 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,400 saw this in that really deplorable handshake with 423 00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:09,420 Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo RB where si Jinping just 424 00:25:09,420 --> 00:25:12,930 breached one diplomatic protocol after another. I think that that 425 00:25:12,930 --> 00:25:15,570 shows that there's real problems in the Chinese political system 426 00:25:15,660 --> 00:25:18,540 that they can't deal with a neighbor in a acceptable 427 00:25:18,540 --> 00:25:21,030 fashion. Hmm. 428 00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:24,090 Something's up. Oh Biden. 429 00:25:24,090 --> 00:25:28,170 I believe that. Can we stay in the in the Asian region for a 430 00:25:28,170 --> 00:25:28,560 moment? 431 00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:31,950 Well imagine is playing my last clip, which is the counterpoint 432 00:25:31,950 --> 00:25:36,540 to this guy, which is some woman who used to be I guess, on the 433 00:25:36,540 --> 00:25:41,460 George W. HW bush of staff as a internationalist assumption. 434 00:25:41,460 --> 00:25:46,860 She's now a professor at UC San Diego, which is not the highest, 435 00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:48,150 it's the NAB, it's 436 00:25:48,150 --> 00:25:54,360 the military farm team. The JV JV is China ladies discussion is 437 00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:57,870 this interesting, she was really long winded by cut her down 438 00:25:57,870 --> 00:25:59,400 found something kind of interesting. 439 00:25:59,460 --> 00:26:01,470 And that raises another interesting point. But Susan 440 00:26:01,470 --> 00:26:05,070 shirk, I do want to get your sense of of these internal 441 00:26:05,220 --> 00:26:08,760 pressures and how they're playing out on she and how you 442 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,820 think this relationship moves forward between the US and 443 00:26:11,820 --> 00:26:20,610 China? Well, I do think that Xi Jinping has been very much 444 00:26:20,610 --> 00:26:25,440 focused on domestic threats to his power, and maintaining the 445 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,720 communist party in power, despite the dramatic changes in 446 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:36,240 society and economy over the last 30 years. So you see this 447 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:42,240 contrast between what looks like very confident Xi Jinping and 448 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,340 confident China on the world stage with a very nervous Xi 449 00:26:47,340 --> 00:26:51,780 Jinping in China, about the potential for domestic unrest. 450 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:59,550 But I think she did well for himself by handling this meeting 451 00:26:59,550 --> 00:27:05,100 so well, looking like, you know, enhancing China's status as a 452 00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:08,310 responsible big power. And that's going to resonate 453 00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:10,530 domestically as well. Just quickly, 454 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,800 posturing thus. Yes, posh, she 455 00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:16,080 did well, for himself. It's just a great sentence. 456 00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:21,030 Yeah, she's clean tonight from the Clinton administration. 457 00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:24,660 Rob Clinton. Okay, back to you, right. Yeah, I remember. 458 00:27:25,770 --> 00:27:31,620 Okay, staying in Asia. first clip, this is a we on the 459 00:27:31,620 --> 00:27:34,380 previous program, which we will discuss in probably in our 460 00:27:34,380 --> 00:27:38,520 Christmas episode. We did some live deconstruction, as it hit 461 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,110 me during a while we were talking about the release of Bay 462 00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:46,950 and Miller from North Korea. It hit me that this guy who I had 463 00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:50,910 seen, just out of the corner of my eye Sugarman, David Sugarman. 464 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,170 And we actually researched it on the air on the show, it turns 465 00:27:55,170 --> 00:27:59,610 out, he's a sports agent. And this kind of explains a lot of 466 00:27:59,610 --> 00:28:02,550 why he might have been involved in trying to get Kenneth Bay 467 00:28:02,550 --> 00:28:07,440 back now, Kenneth Bay. He is, this is I'm learning a lot about 468 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,250 this, this particular little thing that happened. He is a 469 00:28:11,250 --> 00:28:14,640 trader owns a travel company, and although the State 470 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,970 Department and the officials here, just say the straight 471 00:28:17,970 --> 00:28:21,120 department. Yeah, but that will be wrong. I think I said the 472 00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:23,910 State Department would be wrong. We'll just call it the straight 473 00:28:23,910 --> 00:28:31,140 department from now on. He had he had organized the Dennis 474 00:28:31,140 --> 00:28:32,070 Rodman trip. 475 00:28:33,180 --> 00:28:36,060 Oh, okay. Stayed on this idea. Yeah. Well, 476 00:28:36,060 --> 00:28:39,000 I stayed on like a hot potato, I stayed on it for a reason got a 477 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,570 big surprise, got a really big one for information, man, new 478 00:28:42,570 --> 00:28:47,160 shit has come to life, got some good stuff for you. And Sugarman 479 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:53,340 was along for the ride because he represents Kenny Anderson, 480 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:59,610 who went to North Korea with Dennis Rodman. So, so and this 481 00:28:59,610 --> 00:29:04,680 guy, Bey organized the trip, but the straight department portrays 482 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:10,020 him as a missionary who tried to overthrow the country by placing 483 00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:13,830 Bibles or something like that, right. That was one 484 00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:17,190 of the things I believe it was. The other guy was one of the 485 00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:19,170 guys was out missionary, the other guy 486 00:29:19,170 --> 00:29:22,050 left the button. Well, there's some new, some new information 487 00:29:22,050 --> 00:29:24,960 on the other guy, the Miller kid, as we'll call him. So 488 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,930 here's a quick report on Sugarman, who says something 489 00:29:27,930 --> 00:29:33,450 very interesting that he feels that he is responsible for the 490 00:29:33,450 --> 00:29:36,240 return or at least partially, he doesn't claim full 491 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,970 responsibility believes he's partially responsible for the 492 00:29:38,970 --> 00:29:43,740 return of Bay, as he had, but he really did the rounds. He went 493 00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:48,360 to the State Department, he went to Hillary, even Charlie wrangle 494 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,960 I'm not quite sure what wrangle has to do with it. But no, no, 495 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,280 no. And also, well listen to the report for exactly two 496 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,740 years now. Tour Guide and missionary Kenneth bay of 497 00:29:58,740 --> 00:30:01,650 Washington State has been in prisoned in the North Korean 498 00:30:01,650 --> 00:30:04,410 labor camp system suspected of trying to overthrow its 499 00:30:04,410 --> 00:30:07,650 government. And for nine months New Jersey sports agent and 500 00:30:07,650 --> 00:30:10,530 political activist David Sugarman has been pushing for 501 00:30:10,530 --> 00:30:13,830 his release after reaching out to Bay's family and meeting with 502 00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:18,180 them in New York. Today. They told him ecstatic. I mean, they 503 00:30:18,180 --> 00:30:21,030 can't wait for him to come home Sugarman led a social media 504 00:30:21,030 --> 00:30:24,030 campaign on Twitter and Facebook today. He could celebrate by 505 00:30:24,030 --> 00:30:27,720 posting. We did it. We did it. We brought Kenneth Bay back I am 506 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,560 in tears crying right now we did it. I can't believe it. And the 507 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,500 family statement this ordeal has been excruciating for the 508 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:37,980 family. But we are filled with joy right now. Our Thanksgiving 509 00:30:37,980 --> 00:30:40,560 celebration this year will be one we will never forget. 510 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,380 Sugarman met with everyone from former Secretary of State 511 00:30:43,380 --> 00:30:46,650 Hillary Clinton to Jesse Jackson, and Congressman Charlie 512 00:30:46,650 --> 00:30:49,950 wrangle, and he took this selfie with the North Korean ambassador 513 00:30:49,950 --> 00:30:53,580 to the UN, who called him this morning. He said to say thank 514 00:30:53,580 --> 00:30:57,810 you. And did you? I sure did. Yes. No one can say for sure why 515 00:30:57,810 --> 00:31:00,150 bae and the other Americans have been released, though there is 516 00:31:00,150 --> 00:31:03,750 some speculation North Korea is worried about against it by the 517 00:31:03,750 --> 00:31:06,930 International Criminal Court says former US ambassador to 518 00:31:06,930 --> 00:31:10,530 South Korea, Stephen Bosworth. There are ways in which they can 519 00:31:10,530 --> 00:31:14,430 communicate with us largely through their mission to the UN 520 00:31:14,430 --> 00:31:18,360 in New York, which is referred to as the New York channel. As 521 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,240 for Sugarman, he says he may have been just one part of an 522 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,480 effort by many to bring Bae back. Oh, let's 523 00:31:24,540 --> 00:31:27,360 let's stop, okay, the New York channel 524 00:31:27,570 --> 00:31:32,100 bullshit, and you'll find out why. But so this guy is saying 525 00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:33,780 there's the New York channel, 526 00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:37,530 but wouldn't a New York channel be done. And 527 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:43,860 interestingly enough, I received an email from Uncle Don, who 528 00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:47,250 says Looking forward to seeing you guys on Monday. I've been 529 00:31:47,250 --> 00:31:49,740 waiting. I'm going to New York tomorrow. And we'll go on up to 530 00:31:49,740 --> 00:31:53,460 our mock to see him on Monday, him and Meg. He says I was 531 00:31:53,460 --> 00:31:58,500 interviewed, as you know, Don can't get he can't even walk on 532 00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:04,260 a set of any mainstream media news program because he's not on 533 00:32:04,260 --> 00:32:08,490 board with the message. And the message is evil, frightening, 534 00:32:08,490 --> 00:32:13,260 scary. Crazy. So he did this interview, it was some local 535 00:32:13,260 --> 00:32:18,030 public radio station. And so Don said, I believe that's what he 536 00:32:18,030 --> 00:32:21,240 said, email, I believe you may be able to use some clips on 537 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,080 your show. 538 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,930 While he's promoting himself for UK as a clip, yeah. So that's 539 00:32:27,930 --> 00:32:29,400 actually a step in the right direction. 540 00:32:29,850 --> 00:32:32,460 Let me get let me read it for bit for Batum Hold on a second. 541 00:32:33,390 --> 00:32:36,840 And read his email is really it was I was kind of blown away. 542 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:43,380 Let's see what he says here. Here it is. 543 00:32:48,420 --> 00:32:52,560 Adam, this interview ran 20 minutes, it was excellent. I've 544 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,350 already had a call from someone at UCLA who wants me to speak at 545 00:32:55,350 --> 00:33:01,650 a forum. You may find some use for this on your podcast in form 546 00:33:01,650 --> 00:33:04,470 of clips. Looking forward to seeing you 547 00:33:04,860 --> 00:33:07,380 listen much. Listen to the podcast once in a while you 548 00:33:07,380 --> 00:33:08,670 wouldn't know about the clips. 549 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,920 Looking forward to seeing you here at three ponds. Code code. 550 00:33:14,610 --> 00:33:17,160 So I listened this interview and I posted the full interview in 551 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,580 the show notes. And I pulled a couple clips from it. And I 552 00:33:20,580 --> 00:33:24,690 started to understand a little better what had happened. And we 553 00:33:24,690 --> 00:33:30,690 have to go back to October 28 when the United Nations released 554 00:33:30,690 --> 00:33:36,210 their human rights report. This is the I believe, as dawn will 555 00:33:36,210 --> 00:33:40,950 tell us correctly. This is the the genesis of what happened as 556 00:33:40,950 --> 00:33:46,620 the United Nations released that 372 page report detailing 557 00:33:46,620 --> 00:33:50,490 brainwashing torture, starvation, imprisonment for 558 00:33:50,490 --> 00:33:53,850 crimes such as questioning the system or trying to escape it or 559 00:33:53,850 --> 00:33:58,590 secret Christianity in North Korea. And they were and this 560 00:33:58,590 --> 00:34:03,630 report says we should call Kim Jong on to account and we should 561 00:34:03,630 --> 00:34:10,170 hold them before the criminal court. And it is Don's belief as 562 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,340 in some follow up emails that this request for release came 563 00:34:14,340 --> 00:34:19,020 directly from Kim Jong on. Let's just start with a little bit of 564 00:34:19,020 --> 00:34:20,970 background and these are all reasonably sure I tried to make 565 00:34:20,970 --> 00:34:24,270 them as short as possible about the gulags and this Miller kid. 566 00:34:24,570 --> 00:34:29,820 Apparently the Mueller kid was a journalist. I'm pretty sure he 567 00:34:29,820 --> 00:34:35,790 was a spy. And he was there to document the gulags. Right. 568 00:34:35,790 --> 00:34:39,810 Yeah, good idea. Yeah, so so he had to be 569 00:34:40,170 --> 00:34:43,170 when we talked about this last show, and we determined he was a 570 00:34:43,170 --> 00:34:43,650 spy. 571 00:34:43,740 --> 00:34:45,210 Here's, here's dawn. 572 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,710 Did he go to Berkeley by any chance? 573 00:34:46,739 --> 00:34:47,609 I don't know. 574 00:34:47,969 --> 00:34:51,959 I think that the the entire issue of the gulags and the 575 00:34:51,959 --> 00:34:56,969 prison camps is a matter of high sensitivity to the North 576 00:34:56,969 --> 00:35:02,459 Koreans. I say that because I On the 20th of October, I 577 00:35:02,459 --> 00:35:06,479 introduced Ambassador Johnny's home of North Korea to the 578 00:35:06,479 --> 00:35:09,779 Council on Foreign Relations where he spoke on the record 579 00:35:09,809 --> 00:35:13,679 about human rights in North Korea. He took a lot of flack 580 00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:18,449 from a human rights activists there because he had been told 581 00:35:18,449 --> 00:35:23,039 what to say by Pyongyang. And he could not really answer their 582 00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:28,229 questions to their satisfaction, but it was very clear that a 583 00:35:28,229 --> 00:35:31,739 matter of great sensitivity to them was the possibility that 584 00:35:31,739 --> 00:35:37,439 the UN might take action to try to indict Kim Jong on for crimes 585 00:35:37,439 --> 00:35:41,369 against humanity due to the conditions in the in the gulags. 586 00:35:41,759 --> 00:35:46,079 So I don't know anything about the what the young man in North 587 00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:49,169 Korea was doing. But if they thought he was going to try and 588 00:35:49,169 --> 00:35:52,439 get into a camp, that would be a matter of great sensitivity to 589 00:35:52,439 --> 00:35:52,769 them. 590 00:35:54,570 --> 00:35:59,370 So there's done even before the report came out with the report 591 00:35:59,370 --> 00:36:02,820 that the ambassador was already already trying to run intercept 592 00:36:02,850 --> 00:36:06,720 interference before this report was was was going on. Okay. 593 00:36:06,750 --> 00:36:11,220 Here's the New York connection, that which now a reminder of 594 00:36:11,220 --> 00:36:15,900 that. Don was the ambassador to South Korea, but he was also 595 00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:18,630 there during the Korean War, Vietnam War. You've been around? 596 00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:22,680 Yeah, he's over 180. 597 00:36:22,740 --> 00:36:25,890 I think the 8485 is pretty cool. Yeah, here is the New York 598 00:36:25,890 --> 00:36:26,340 connection. 599 00:36:26,370 --> 00:36:30,450 I've made six trips to North Korea. And in February, four of 600 00:36:30,450 --> 00:36:34,830 us all, representing PCI went to North Korea and heard from them 601 00:36:34,830 --> 00:36:39,210 what their economic development plans are, and have heard from 602 00:36:39,210 --> 00:36:41,880 them, they needed help in developing these plans. So we've 603 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:47,130 been trying to be helpful on that. And after the meeting, on 604 00:36:47,130 --> 00:36:50,400 the 20th of October was the ambassador dying, I took him to 605 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,750 dinner, and said, You made it clear that the prisoners have 606 00:36:54,750 --> 00:36:57,780 nothing to do with the human rights issue in the north. I was 607 00:36:57,780 --> 00:37:01,980 glad to hear that. And I said, this is absolutely the time to 608 00:37:01,980 --> 00:37:06,570 release those people. And so, yesterday when I heard they had 609 00:37:06,570 --> 00:37:10,410 been released, I sent him a note congratulating him and he 610 00:37:10,410 --> 00:37:13,320 responded an hour later said, thank you very much. We talked 611 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,700 about that. And I tried to do what you suggested. So that's 612 00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:20,970 the kind of communication we have. It's offline. I have no 613 00:37:20,970 --> 00:37:25,560 feedback whatsoever from the Obama administration. I had none 614 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,730 from the Bush administration. I've had no feedback from 615 00:37:29,730 --> 00:37:32,940 anybody in the White House since I started going to North Korea, 616 00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:38,040 but I think it's been worth doing and PCI now I think is a 617 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,950 fairly well trusted entity by them. And I think they talk 618 00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:42,150 fairly freely to us. 619 00:37:44,010 --> 00:37:45,840 Pretty often Brooks he's gone rogue. 620 00:37:46,350 --> 00:37:53,190 Yeah, he is. And the PCI that's, that's, that is, is? What is it? 621 00:37:54,180 --> 00:38:00,240 The project? That's the that's the think tank he's in. Okay, so 622 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,700 it's a NGO? No, 623 00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:05,220 it's not an NGO. It's a thing. It's a think tank, but a 624 00:38:05,220 --> 00:38:08,820 business? It's a business front for sure. Sure. What's not it's 625 00:38:08,820 --> 00:38:12,090 a it's a front. I'm saying that from a different project concern 626 00:38:12,090 --> 00:38:14,820 International, they change the name of like Pacific something 627 00:38:14,820 --> 00:38:16,920 or it doesn't matter. If Mr. Frond is what 628 00:38:17,010 --> 00:38:21,030 he is not doing this completely outside of the system. I don't 629 00:38:21,930 --> 00:38:26,970 make sense. Well, hold on. I'm sure Obama's not you know, but 630 00:38:26,970 --> 00:38:29,850 uh, you know, they get their own discrete department. 631 00:38:29,970 --> 00:38:36,780 Okay. Let me skip ahead. One. He's going to talk about his 632 00:38:37,170 --> 00:38:41,190 trying to, I think the talks about the well, let me try this 633 00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:44,550 one first. So the question, of course, is why does a former CIA 634 00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:47,670 guy while he Why is he interested in going to North 635 00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:48,150 Korea? 636 00:38:48,330 --> 00:38:50,910 So Donald Greg, I'm sure there are people in our audience who 637 00:38:50,910 --> 00:38:57,660 were wondering why a former CIA officer would feel compelled to, 638 00:38:58,740 --> 00:39:02,700 to, to feel that there's a need to communicate with North Korea 639 00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:06,000 and to get beyond the demonization which seems to be 640 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,160 very popular in all 641 00:39:08,250 --> 00:39:10,110 minorities See, why don't want to do the interview with this 642 00:39:10,110 --> 00:39:16,980 guy. British accent sounds official. Yeah, no one no. Two. 643 00:39:16,980 --> 00:39:19,170 It's funny. No one will ever hear the show except go through 644 00:39:19,170 --> 00:39:21,510 no business. People are gonna hear it through us exactly. 645 00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:23,430 Political and journalistic circles. 646 00:39:24,450 --> 00:39:26,010 What a wonderful question. That's, 647 00:39:26,610 --> 00:39:29,640 that's a new that's a variant by the way, instead of great 648 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,910 question. That's a wonderful question. You should use that. 649 00:39:32,939 --> 00:39:35,489 I love the fact you asked me that. And the answer is very 650 00:39:35,489 --> 00:39:40,259 simple. I'd rather talk to them and fight them. I was involved 651 00:39:40,259 --> 00:39:43,739 for four years in the in the war in Vietnam, which we never 652 00:39:43,739 --> 00:39:48,179 should have fought. And I've observed. You know what happens 653 00:39:48,179 --> 00:39:52,469 when we do demonize foreign leaders that cost us and we 654 00:39:52,469 --> 00:39:55,289 certainly have demonized Kim Jong Un calling him into 655 00:39:55,289 --> 00:39:59,399 question. From the moment he appeared. The North Koreans 656 00:39:59,399 --> 00:40:03,119 think very hot I love him. When I last went there in February 657 00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:08,339 this year they, a Vice Foreign Minister of Foreign Affairs said 658 00:40:08,399 --> 00:40:11,099 the sky's the limit under Kim Jong Un and they think very 659 00:40:11,099 --> 00:40:15,479 highly of him. And I think this decision to release the 660 00:40:15,689 --> 00:40:18,689 prisoners comes directly from Kim Jong Un, I think it's the 661 00:40:18,689 --> 00:40:22,229 kind of decision he's going to start making. He's going to be 662 00:40:22,229 --> 00:40:26,579 around for a long time. I think we need to help him understand 663 00:40:26,579 --> 00:40:30,329 us better. And I think we need to understand them better than 664 00:40:30,329 --> 00:40:33,449 we do. For more than a decade. I've called North Korea the 665 00:40:33,449 --> 00:40:36,089 longest running failure in the history of American 666 00:40:36,089 --> 00:40:37,169 intelligence. And that's how 667 00:40:37,170 --> 00:40:41,010 you stay off CNN dawn. This is not, this is not how you get on 668 00:40:41,010 --> 00:40:41,580 the news. 669 00:40:41,820 --> 00:40:46,320 And I feel that that applies to intelligence, organizationally, 670 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,660 and it also applies to us intellectually. 671 00:40:49,140 --> 00:40:53,040 Now he's going to talk about the previous times he has gone to 672 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:59,010 the White House, to no bearing a personal message from the leader 673 00:40:59,010 --> 00:41:02,610 of North Korea for the President. And this was George 674 00:41:02,610 --> 00:41:06,510 W. Bush, who and Don was a Republican, he converted to 675 00:41:06,510 --> 00:41:09,150 Democrat and voted for Obama. He's not very happy with his 676 00:41:09,150 --> 00:41:12,660 decision. And I don't think boards these has indicated that 677 00:41:12,660 --> 00:41:17,400 to me anything but John McCain, and yeah. And so when you are 678 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,030 Don Gregg, and you have a message from the leader of the 679 00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:26,160 of North Korea, a handwritten note to deliver to the 680 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:32,010 President, what do you think happens? With bush? Yeah, w. And 681 00:41:32,010 --> 00:41:34,440 by the way, he that he was the National Security Adviser for 682 00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:37,110 W's dad for a Rite Aid. Yeah, 683 00:41:37,140 --> 00:41:41,700 yeah. Back in the day, right. What would he do, he'd probably 684 00:41:41,700 --> 00:41:45,090 table it, just stick it in a folder and say, I'll get back to 685 00:41:45,090 --> 00:41:46,470 you. It's worse, 686 00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:50,040 I've been particularly disappointed that Obama seems to 687 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,580 have inherited some of the worst tendencies of the Bush 688 00:41:53,580 --> 00:41:57,990 administration. In that reason. I had carried to the White House 689 00:41:57,990 --> 00:42:02,940 in 2002, a written offer from North Korea, from Kim Jong Il to 690 00:42:02,940 --> 00:42:07,170 restart talks. I was in and out of the White House in 20 minutes 691 00:42:07,170 --> 00:42:10,680 and Condoleezza Rice, his deputy said, Oh, no, we won't talk to 692 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,660 them. That would be rewarding bad behavior. 693 00:42:13,230 --> 00:42:18,210 He was kicked out by candies, Assistant Assistant. 694 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,960 Whoa. And then you help you get into the making the country he's 695 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,990 been, he's been marginalized. He's totally here. 696 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:33,210 And we have now something called strategic patience, which is 697 00:42:33,630 --> 00:42:36,780 actually the same thing, we're sort of hoping that North Korea 698 00:42:36,780 --> 00:42:40,230 will implode and they're not going to implode. And the longer 699 00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:43,350 we don't talk to them, the stronger their nuclear deterrent 700 00:42:43,350 --> 00:42:46,980 becomes, the North Koreans have made it very clear to me that 701 00:42:46,980 --> 00:42:50,640 they want to talk to us. But that until we sit down and 702 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,340 really talk to them without a lot of preconditions, they're 703 00:42:53,340 --> 00:42:56,760 going to continue to strengthen their nuclear deterrent. And so 704 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,720 I think the longer we wait to talk, the deeper the pit, we're 705 00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:03,180 into what we'll have to eventually climb out of 706 00:43:03,420 --> 00:43:05,760 this. I think this is one of the most important clips that we 707 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,350 have. And this is 708 00:43:07,620 --> 00:43:10,800 definitely an important clip. And it tells me something else 709 00:43:11,370 --> 00:43:14,010 during the Bush administration and continuing because he does 710 00:43:14,010 --> 00:43:17,100 make dimension that this that whatever the policy is, I don't 711 00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:19,710 think he's aware of it. And I don't think we are either there 712 00:43:19,710 --> 00:43:24,540 is something going on, there is some plot afoot. There is some 713 00:43:24,540 --> 00:43:27,030 scheme it either has to do with the South Koreans, it has to do 714 00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:29,400 with oil, it has to do with the Russians, it has to do with 715 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,430 something we don't aren't aware of. It's almost like, you know, 716 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:37,830 hidden alien spaceships. A few people know what it is, and 717 00:43:38,580 --> 00:43:41,670 nobody else does. And that's why he got you know, we don't care 718 00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:44,760 what these guys say we have something in mind that we're not 719 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,630 talking about get out. 720 00:43:45,780 --> 00:43:48,960 Well, the two things. Yeah, of course, the Chinese don't want 721 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,650 it to fall apart because they don't want you know, a million 722 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,370 North Koreans walking into China. I did see a note today 723 00:43:56,370 --> 00:44:00,840 that Lockheed and Raytheon are going to sell $1.4 billion worth 724 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,890 of missiles to South Korea. So it's always good to make the 725 00:44:04,890 --> 00:44:06,960 neighbor country afraid of 726 00:44:07,290 --> 00:44:10,560 that you sell bought a bowl Chris, y'all, you know, the last 727 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,690 about two years and you gotta buy another billion couple 728 00:44:12,690 --> 00:44:13,380 billion worth 729 00:44:13,410 --> 00:44:18,360 now when we see North Korea portrayed on on our mainstream 730 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:24,330 news. It's always a nuclear power, who have a crazy kid on 731 00:44:24,330 --> 00:44:24,780 the button. 732 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,620 Walking around goose stepping, yeah, 733 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,460 he has done. 734 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:34,560 I think North Korea is not a nuclear threat to anyone. I 735 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,350 think they they know that if they used a nuclear weapon, they 736 00:44:37,350 --> 00:44:42,570 would be obliterated. But as you say, if they get some others 737 00:44:42,570 --> 00:44:45,900 will be tempted to and there are right wingers in South Korea who 738 00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:49,920 are already talking about developing nuclear weapons, 739 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,580 something that I had a hand in stopping when I was chief of 740 00:44:53,580 --> 00:44:55,560 station there in the mid 70s. So 741 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,890 this is I think that's part of the plan is sell some junk to 742 00:44:58,890 --> 00:45:03,030 South Korea. Just making megive me keep them up. We don't want 743 00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:03,900 any peace. 744 00:45:04,169 --> 00:45:07,949 You know, that is the simplest explanation, which is usually 745 00:45:07,949 --> 00:45:12,299 the best explanation. There's a lot of business to be done hecky 746 00:45:12,299 --> 00:45:16,259 selling crap to South Korea. And if they if everything was hunky 747 00:45:16,259 --> 00:45:19,199 dory between the two countries and they they got away from the 748 00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:22,529 armistice, you know, they signed it we actually finished the war 749 00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:28,229 and they would there's all that business something else 750 00:45:28,229 --> 00:45:31,259 interesting that I'm reading. Maybe that's all there is to it. 751 00:45:31,289 --> 00:45:32,219 It's of no Well, there's 752 00:45:32,220 --> 00:45:35,460 a timeline there's a timeline check this out. The US is 753 00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:40,170 scheduled to hand over command of South Korea's wartime 754 00:45:40,170 --> 00:45:46,170 defenses in December 2015. So missile defense capabilities are 755 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:53,790 vital. In June Bloomberg reported pa three PAC three and 756 00:45:53,790 --> 00:45:56,220 Lockheed is longer range Terminal High Altitude Area 757 00:45:56,220 --> 00:45:59,970 Defense system known as tad were among the missile systems that 758 00:45:59,970 --> 00:46:03,630 South Korea's military was eyeing it's a sales job. It's a 759 00:46:03,630 --> 00:46:04,590 fucking sales job. 760 00:46:04,620 --> 00:46:07,770 We get out you know, we take over turning it over to you 761 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,950 know, you have to buy the gear. Yeah. Because until then we're 762 00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:12,630 buying our own gear, right. Yeah, 763 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,100 that's what it seems like. 764 00:46:14,220 --> 00:46:16,980 Yeah, so we turn it over now. We're gonna we're doing you a 765 00:46:16,980 --> 00:46:21,810 favor by the gear that we used to bring in for free but makes 766 00:46:21,810 --> 00:46:24,330 Yeah, but make sure you're really afraid of those guys up 767 00:46:24,330 --> 00:46:26,640 north and the crazy kid goose stepping around. 768 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,750 I took complete and total scam, two more clips. And that 769 00:46:30,750 --> 00:46:33,120 probably by the way is all well then we 770 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,320 don't know any better. Because this is the guy who I trust 771 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:42,120 more. And the fact that has been marginalized in the media is 772 00:46:42,180 --> 00:46:44,910 endless. His book coming out. He's not getting on CNN to 773 00:46:44,910 --> 00:46:46,620 promote his book like everybody else, 774 00:46:46,650 --> 00:46:50,970 because he doesn't have they won't book him Bacho pot shards 775 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,450 he's probably on about well, there's that. There's a he's 776 00:46:54,450 --> 00:46:55,980 probably a blacklist. 777 00:46:56,609 --> 00:47:01,979 Yeah. And by the way, us playing clips on our show was not 778 00:47:01,979 --> 00:47:02,879 helping his career. 779 00:47:04,290 --> 00:47:06,900 I don't think it's hurting it because nobody is CNN listens to 780 00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:07,980 the no agenda show. 781 00:47:08,340 --> 00:47:09,480 Let's play two more. 782 00:47:09,630 --> 00:47:12,060 There's probably a few lesser producers who do and then they 783 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,780 they sneak some of this stuff in. But there they won't admit 784 00:47:15,780 --> 00:47:18,870 it. It's like almost no, it's like driving around listening. 785 00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:22,590 Let's bring back Rush Limbaugh. If you put Rush Limbaugh on your 786 00:47:22,590 --> 00:47:25,620 radio, and it turned up, you're not going to go through a drive 787 00:47:25,620 --> 00:47:28,980 thru at McDonald's with that playing? Oh, geez, no one's 788 00:47:28,980 --> 00:47:29,760 gonna do it. No. 789 00:47:30,930 --> 00:47:35,850 So what Don is not I like this, almost done this, this next 790 00:47:35,850 --> 00:47:40,860 clip, where he does say that to totalitarian regime? And he 791 00:47:40,860 --> 00:47:41,160 says, 792 00:47:41,370 --> 00:47:45,480 Singapore, by the way, yes, we love Singapore. And he's 793 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:46,050 explaining 794 00:47:46,050 --> 00:47:48,990 how you deal with them and how you make things change. 795 00:47:49,109 --> 00:47:53,159 And when people ask me why I keep fooling around with, with 796 00:47:53,159 --> 00:47:53,999 the North Koreans, I've 797 00:47:54,030 --> 00:47:56,880 got nothing better to do beats collecting stamps, 798 00:47:56,910 --> 00:48:00,960 I say not only I'd rather talk but fight. I said my experience 799 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:06,000 is that totalitarian regimes and North Korea is a totalitarian 800 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,050 regime. They change only when they see that it is in their 801 00:48:10,050 --> 00:48:13,560 interest to change that happened after Nixon reached out to 802 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,430 China. And it also happened after George Herbert Walker 803 00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:20,850 Bush, and Gorbachev worked together to bring down the 804 00:48:20,850 --> 00:48:25,830 Berlin Wall. And changes took place. And I think changes need 805 00:48:25,830 --> 00:48:30,510 to start to take place in North Korea internally generated. And 806 00:48:30,510 --> 00:48:33,780 so I think these talks to the North Koreans about their human 807 00:48:33,780 --> 00:48:38,430 rights problem are very valuable if it translates into actions 808 00:48:38,430 --> 00:48:42,810 which they can take on their own volition within their society to 809 00:48:42,810 --> 00:48:45,600 make it less represent less repressive. 810 00:48:46,410 --> 00:48:48,030 He said reprehensible that's what I 811 00:48:48,030 --> 00:48:51,450 thought he was gonna say. Interesting. Well, I'm gonna ask 812 00:48:51,450 --> 00:48:54,900 him about this PCI saying I want to find out what they're doing. 813 00:48:55,170 --> 00:48:58,560 Yeah, I think it's a it's a business front and he wants to 814 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,510 help businesses get into North Korea. 815 00:49:00,810 --> 00:49:04,380 Well, I here's what I you got your PIN, I asked a question. 816 00:49:04,799 --> 00:49:08,609 I Oh, hold on. This is This calls for an outline. 817 00:49:09,870 --> 00:49:14,670 Outline. I have like one question, maybe two questions 818 00:49:14,670 --> 00:49:18,060 even pretty soon. So I have to get my shoot, shoot, shoot, you 819 00:49:18,060 --> 00:49:21,780 know, the one I really want to know is how serious is North 820 00:49:21,780 --> 00:49:25,230 Korea about creating a tourist destination? So Well, 821 00:49:25,230 --> 00:49:30,570 that was on my list too. Okay, creating a tourist destination, 822 00:49:30,570 --> 00:49:33,180 which seems to be the businesses that are getting in Okay, that's 823 00:49:33,180 --> 00:49:35,370 question number one. You are Yep, you're on the list 824 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,630 to buy was the ye doesn't really go into much of an explanation 825 00:49:39,630 --> 00:49:43,830 about this character. Who were the two guys that were were 826 00:49:43,860 --> 00:49:48,810 taken that were subsequently released. Why was I can 827 00:49:48,810 --> 00:49:51,750 understand why they grabbed the spy, because that was just too 828 00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:54,270 obvious. Yeah, but why the other guy he was responsible for the 829 00:49:54,270 --> 00:49:58,680 basketball thing. Good. Why, I mean, it doesn't make sense 830 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,380 because that guy would be seen as a good guy who set up the 831 00:50:01,380 --> 00:50:05,010 basketball game with the with the Koreans versus the NBA 832 00:50:05,010 --> 00:50:07,680 players, right? The rest of it right, right. Why was he taken 833 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:12,120 was he may be just taken? I mean, I'm almost imagining since 834 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,170 a totalitarian state now this is just a comedic thing, but I'm 835 00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:18,630 imagining they get the guests as you were very good bringing 836 00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:25,140 those basketball guys over. You now work for us. Could be I mean 837 00:50:25,140 --> 00:50:29,070 that I mean, that's a movie script. Yeah. It's a James Bond 838 00:50:29,070 --> 00:50:32,040 story. But what I don't want to work for you. I have a wife and 839 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,700 family I'm back. No, no, no, you work for us. Now you bring more 840 00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:39,870 basketball. You stay here in the you very luxurious hotel. You 841 00:50:39,870 --> 00:50:40,620 stay you know, 842 00:50:40,650 --> 00:50:44,400 I think I think you're right. And probably it was done out of 843 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,850 the goodness of someone's heart like, hey, our fearless leader 844 00:50:47,850 --> 00:50:50,400 likes his basketball crap. Let's get me on this. Get this guy on 845 00:50:50,940 --> 00:50:52,080 doing more of that. 846 00:50:54,210 --> 00:50:58,680 I mean, yeah, why else? Why else was the guy grabbed? They knew 847 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:05,550 us unknown person. friendly to the government. Right? That was 848 00:51:05,550 --> 00:51:08,220 actually a subtle fear of mine. If I could get into with Kim 849 00:51:08,220 --> 00:51:09,120 Jong Il. 850 00:51:09,180 --> 00:51:10,050 Yeah. For the 851 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,470 for his wife, Oh, you're very good with wine you stay. 852 00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:16,170 Recommend wine, not daily basis, you 853 00:51:16,170 --> 00:51:19,500 label you label everything now. Give rating, 854 00:51:19,950 --> 00:51:21,930 put down year with expiration. 855 00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:26,250 Now as much as I liked Don, the straight department and of 856 00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:30,780 course, he was often listed as a civilian in the State 857 00:51:30,780 --> 00:51:35,040 Department. They're all laying on Putin being crazy. 858 00:51:36,090 --> 00:51:40,350 revisionist Russia. And the last question was about Russia, 859 00:51:40,770 --> 00:51:44,790 particularly as President Obama was going to get his arm rubbed 860 00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:48,510 up by Putin there. And in China, funny captions by the way, if 861 00:51:48,510 --> 00:51:52,590 you look at my my Twitter feed, did you see that picture of 862 00:51:52,590 --> 00:51:56,340 Putin rubbing Obama's arm? No, no, it's very cute. It's kind of 863 00:51:56,340 --> 00:52:01,830 sexual. Anyway, strange. I'm sorry, they asked you. Julian, 864 00:52:02,340 --> 00:52:05,430 don't worry about. So the question I think was, hey, what 865 00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:09,510 about China and Russia and everyone being played or Russia 866 00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:12,000 and China are now teaming up together? And what's the what's 867 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:12,450 the word 868 00:52:12,540 --> 00:52:16,770 as the conference that I attended In? In? In the UK a 869 00:52:16,770 --> 00:52:20,370 couple of weeks ago, there were some very intelligent senior 870 00:52:20,370 --> 00:52:25,140 Russians with whom I talked, and I said, Look, I fought you guys 871 00:52:25,140 --> 00:52:29,520 and CIA all through the Cold War, but I have huge amount of 872 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:30,720 respect for Russia. 873 00:52:31,260 --> 00:52:32,970 Imagine he actually did, 874 00:52:33,570 --> 00:52:35,430 hey, I'm sure he did. I 875 00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:39,090 fought you. And if this century is going to be any better than 876 00:52:39,090 --> 00:52:43,140 our last, we have to find find ways to work together on certain 877 00:52:43,140 --> 00:52:45,630 issues. And they said, Well, we would agree with that. But 878 00:52:45,630 --> 00:52:48,870 you've got to, you've got a very difficult situation with Putin 879 00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:52,710 who is totally in control, and has reawakened in the minds of 880 00:52:52,710 --> 00:52:55,380 the Russians and the hearts, their hope of sort of 881 00:52:55,410 --> 00:52:59,250 international clout and grandeur. And so we have a real 882 00:52:59,250 --> 00:53:03,330 problem coming there and what role she is going to play will 883 00:53:03,330 --> 00:53:06,780 become clearer to us all, I think, after Obama sees him on 884 00:53:06,780 --> 00:53:07,710 this trip to Asia. 885 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,490 I actually like how he characterized that I, I can 886 00:53:14,490 --> 00:53:17,820 believe that Putin has awakened something in the Russian people 887 00:53:17,820 --> 00:53:23,340 not necessarily revisionist Russia have a days gone by, but 888 00:53:23,340 --> 00:53:25,170 I can see where there's a patriotism. 889 00:53:27,630 --> 00:53:29,370 What brings me to an odd clip, 890 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,890 okay, that's all I got on Don. Oh, 891 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,120 I got a couple of Putin clips here about you know, they had 892 00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:40,320 about Ukraine, of course, see if I can find it. And I 893 00:53:40,350 --> 00:53:44,580 unfortunately made too many clips. I had Russia, blaming 894 00:53:44,580 --> 00:53:48,720 golf, Ukraine a quarter off Woodruff. I think it's this way. 895 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,420 This is the LG zeroes report on the Ukrainian situation, where 896 00:53:54,420 --> 00:53:57,390 they bring on a guy who this is a little different take on 897 00:53:57,390 --> 00:54:00,510 things this is that the Russians are actually encroaching, and 898 00:54:00,510 --> 00:54:04,770 they're lying about it. Only for the Russian audience. They don't 899 00:54:04,770 --> 00:54:06,810 give a crap. But we think the 900 00:54:06,900 --> 00:54:10,470 most guys position since the fighting began in eastern 901 00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:13,860 Ukraine is to insist that it has no military role in the 902 00:54:13,860 --> 00:54:17,040 conflict. So the defense ministry has dismissed general 903 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,030 breed loves comments, calling them alarmist and anti Russian. 904 00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:24,420 It's a message probably meant more for domestic ears than 905 00:54:24,420 --> 00:54:28,110 foreign ones. Most Russians have no desire to see sons and 906 00:54:28,110 --> 00:54:31,350 brothers die fighting in Ukraine. So pretending that 907 00:54:31,350 --> 00:54:35,700 there are no Russian soldiers as long as the level of hostilities 908 00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:39,120 allows such a pretense. Well, that's about what Russia is 909 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,410 going to be doing that we're 910 00:54:40,410 --> 00:54:45,720 going to deny. With fighting intensifying in recent days, the 911 00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:49,590 ceasefire agreed in Minsk appears to be dead. Both the 912 00:54:49,590 --> 00:54:53,580 rebels and the Ukrainian army are preparing for increased 913 00:54:53,580 --> 00:54:59,790 hostilities. We're seeing more power coming into the hands of 914 00:54:59,790 --> 00:55:03,090 terror groups and Russia, we see all their movements, their 915 00:55:03,090 --> 00:55:05,940 positions. And of course, we're waiting for them to act. How can 916 00:55:05,940 --> 00:55:09,480 we react to their acts? I see it as my aim to be ready to fight. 917 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,050 And this dovetails into a clip I have. But I have a question, 918 00:55:13,110 --> 00:55:17,070 which is the one I asked consistently. Why would Russia 919 00:55:17,070 --> 00:55:21,780 do that? For what reason for to what and for what good for? What 920 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,150 would they do? Why come in? 921 00:55:24,270 --> 00:55:27,420 Why would they send in this is this and it's not just for the 922 00:55:27,420 --> 00:55:31,440 Russian audience. CNN is all over this. Russia, Russia, 923 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,630 Russia, Russia, Russia, it's all you hear all day long, Russia, 924 00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:38,250 Russia, Russia. Why does anyone say why? What is the point of 925 00:55:38,250 --> 00:55:41,490 this stupid ass country, which not really fully gay, they're 926 00:55:41,490 --> 00:55:45,330 only in if they're in if they're in we I 927 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,940 think it is possible that they're in only to be a 928 00:55:47,970 --> 00:55:51,300 defensive major because the Ukrainian army is going to come 929 00:55:51,300 --> 00:55:54,870 in again, and start realizing the place which is and if we 930 00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:59,640 consider the fact and wish they been doing defensive outliers, 931 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,140 just those two areas. And because we're behind the entire 932 00:56:04,170 --> 00:56:09,690 Ukraine revolution, which the porch, the porch we did, we 933 00:56:09,690 --> 00:56:14,280 screwed the pooch. We are internalizing what the Russians 934 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,400 may be there as they've set up some barriers that keep that 935 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,650 from happening. They don't have any interest in seeing this 936 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,150 happening right on their border. 937 00:56:21,330 --> 00:56:24,570 So in your clip, they mentioned what Breedlove had said 938 00:56:24,570 --> 00:56:27,930 Breedlove is the new the Allied commander and believes 939 00:56:27,930 --> 00:56:30,510 is CO and Professor Cohen who will use all commonly on the 940 00:56:30,510 --> 00:56:32,850 show who believes is just full of crap. 941 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,810 Well wait until you hear this report that this is broth this I 942 00:56:36,810 --> 00:56:39,090 got this yesterday and then I'll follow it up with a clip from 943 00:56:39,090 --> 00:56:44,040 this morning. Because the word has gone out. Okay, ranch, ramp 944 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,510 it up, ramp it up. Fuck Russia, ramp it up, ramp it up. It's 945 00:56:48,510 --> 00:56:50,220 really, really disgusting. This. 946 00:56:51,810 --> 00:56:55,980 Russian tanks and Russian troops are rolling across the border. 947 00:56:55,980 --> 00:56:58,860 Russia denies it. But now there's an ominous warning from 948 00:56:58,860 --> 00:57:01,680 Ukraine's defense minister, talking about the Russian 949 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:06,570 military moves and I'm quoting now expect unexpected actions on 950 00:57:06,570 --> 00:57:10,470 their part. I think the main task is to prepare for fighting 951 00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:11,070 that. Okay. 952 00:57:11,130 --> 00:57:15,510 So let's just summarize. Abramoff says Russian tanks, 953 00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:19,680 Russian troops. Russia denies it. They don't have proof but 954 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:25,590 Russian true and then they quote the Ukrainian defense minister 955 00:57:25,620 --> 00:57:26,700 newly appointed 956 00:57:28,530 --> 00:57:31,950 by the way he's got sorry, it's got nice outfits got three stars 957 00:57:31,950 --> 00:57:33,810 a bunch of crazy looking things all over. 958 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,710 Oh, the Ukrainian guy. Yeah. Okay. Well, then you're talking 959 00:57:37,710 --> 00:57:38,670 about Breedlove, right? 960 00:57:38,910 --> 00:57:41,940 No, no, our defense guy the Ukrainian guys got Yeah, he's 961 00:57:41,940 --> 00:57:43,470 got scrambled eggs all over 962 00:57:43,470 --> 00:57:45,720 them. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. Pretty nice. Now here comes 963 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:46,080 greetings 964 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,560 from the Ukrainian defense minister. Our CHIEF NATIONAL 965 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,990 SECURITY CORRESPONDENT Jim Sciutto. is working just shortly 966 00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:56,820 for us. This is pretty alarming. I've spoken with Ukrainian 967 00:57:56,820 --> 00:57:57,630 officials in Kyiv. 968 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,480 Don't mention no names, never unnamed. Just I spoke with some 969 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,280 officials spoke to some dudes got some guides or whether 970 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:03,630 you're talking today. There's tremendous 971 00:58:03,630 --> 00:58:06,270 alarm. And I think you can say outrage at these Russian moves. 972 00:58:06,270 --> 00:58:08,280 Because you remember yesterday, there was another one of these 973 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,490 humanitarian convoys that went across without inspection. And 974 00:58:11,490 --> 00:58:14,220 both Ukrainian and Western officials say you know, these 975 00:58:14,220 --> 00:58:17,040 need to be inspected before you go. And now today you have the 976 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,760 Russians brazenly openly sending in arms and we're talking about 977 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,540 artillery tanks, and NATO believes Russian forces. I spoke 978 00:58:24,540 --> 00:58:26,730 to an official and Ukrainian foreign ministry who says that 979 00:58:27,660 --> 00:58:29,400 it's the belief of the foreign ministry that Russia is 980 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,160 preparing for a major offensive by the pro Russian separatists 981 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,590 in eastern Ukraine, I want you to listen to the NATO Supreme 982 00:58:34,590 --> 00:58:36,420 Allied Commander General Philip Breedlove, 983 00:58:36,569 --> 00:58:42,479 we see forces that are capable of being nuclear that are being 984 00:58:42,479 --> 00:58:43,559 moved to Crimea. 985 00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:49,379 Okay. Now, we see forces that are capable of being nuclear, 986 00:58:49,410 --> 00:58:51,810 anything is capable. This is 987 00:58:51,810 --> 00:58:56,400 the point in a jeep and an Abaqus. So he's also he's also 988 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,550 saying Crimea, which is where the Russians traditionally have 989 00:58:59,550 --> 00:59:04,380 had their port and they've had their their base there. And of 990 00:59:04,380 --> 00:59:06,600 course, there was the illegal completely outrageous 991 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,210 encroachment of all borders, who had the Crimea and said, Yeah, 992 00:59:09,210 --> 00:59:11,520 we want to be part of Russia. Okay, I'm not gonna debate that 993 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:17,190 but for this guy, breed love. The head honcho the copy to to 994 00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:23,640 to copy the dude of the NATO forces to propagate such 995 00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:29,220 propaganda of capable Yeah, it's like being pre cancer, pre 996 00:59:29,220 --> 00:59:34,470 cancerous. Of course, I'm also pre nuclear. This is in the 997 00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:37,350 report, really. It's just crazy listening to 998 00:59:37,350 --> 00:59:39,150 Allied Commander General Philip Breedlove. 999 00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:45,210 We see forces that are capable of being nuclear that are being 1000 00:59:45,210 --> 00:59:49,200 moved to Crimea, whether they are or not, we do not know. But 1001 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,880 they guys gotta go kind of just got their movement there that 1002 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,320 could support that mission. 1003 00:59:55,350 --> 00:59:57,840 They got equipment there that could support that mission if 1004 00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:58,380 required. 1005 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,950 All right mission what are they gonna do 1006 01:00:02,010 --> 01:00:06,030 the nuclear mission to try everybody blow up? Yes but treat 1007 01:00:06,060 --> 01:00:09,420 Friday Friday basically 1008 01:00:09,420 --> 01:00:09,810 do 1009 01:00:09,870 --> 01:00:13,230 we annexed it's now part of Russia but if they're moving 1010 01:00:13,230 --> 01:00:15,540 nuclear military equipment 1011 01:00:15,870 --> 01:00:20,700 jumped to the actual doing it remote possibility because it's 1012 01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:24,450 capable now oh this this actually I'm glad I don't have 1013 01:00:24,450 --> 01:00:25,470 CNN anymore 1014 01:00:25,500 --> 01:00:26,220 Goodman 1015 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,970 military, you know CNN so if you want some someone's gotta watch 1016 01:00:29,970 --> 01:00:31,350 it now watch the blaze 1017 01:00:31,770 --> 01:00:36,600 for military equipment capable of using nuclear material that 1018 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,900 would be an ominous mood of a whole bunch of levels you can 1019 01:00:39,900 --> 01:00:42,150 imagine this is based where I'd say 1020 01:00:42,150 --> 01:00:45,660 some what Yeah, so called on 1021 01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:48,750 Russia moving in both MiG fighter aircraft as well as to 1022 01:00:48,750 --> 01:00:49,710 pull off bombers. 1023 01:00:49,770 --> 01:00:53,040 Yeah, airplanes are nuclear capable. Yes. 1024 01:00:53,100 --> 01:00:54,750 into Crimea, which as you say that. 1025 01:00:55,620 --> 01:00:58,590 That's so that's what that's what they're that's what they're 1026 01:00:58,620 --> 01:01:02,670 they mean by nuclear capable machinery? Anything? 1027 01:01:02,700 --> 01:01:05,280 Yeah. Well, it could be a tank. Do they have these shells that 1028 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,260 you know, that can be a mini nuke STAY WITH US 1029 01:01:07,260 --> 01:01:11,010 illegally. It is not known that they have nuclear weapons on 1030 01:01:11,010 --> 01:01:13,980 board haven't been observed by us satellites. But we know that 1031 01:01:13,980 --> 01:01:17,160 they're their nuclear capable. And this has always been the Kim 1032 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:17,760 Kardashian is 1033 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,290 ASOs nuclear capable. 1034 01:01:20,940 --> 01:01:22,500 It's true as a matter of fact, 1035 01:01:22,860 --> 01:01:25,950 us in terms of monitoring these Russian moves. They don't know 1036 01:01:25,950 --> 01:01:28,020 what Russia intends to do. And they know what they're capable 1037 01:01:28,020 --> 01:01:30,360 of doing. But they don't know if they have the intent to actually 1038 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,170 deployed. So what 1039 01:01:31,170 --> 01:01:39,300 you hear is an instigated by the United Nations war machine. This 1040 01:01:39,450 --> 01:01:41,670 was capable is capable could have could be not sure who 1041 01:01:41,670 --> 01:01:43,710 capable capable could be noop noop, noop, noop, noop, noop 1042 01:01:43,710 --> 01:01:47,040 noop noop? No, this is not journalism. This is not 1043 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:47,640 journalism, 1044 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,450 nuclear weapons there. Again, speaking with Ukrainian foreign 1045 01:01:51,450 --> 01:01:54,390 ministry officials, this is what they believe is happening. The 1046 01:01:54,390 --> 01:01:56,580 conventional force is going across the border into eastern 1047 01:01:56,580 --> 01:01:58,890 Ukraine to prepare for a new offensive by pro Russian 1048 01:01:58,890 --> 01:02:02,490 separatists. These forces in Crimea meant to be something of 1049 01:02:02,490 --> 01:02:06,090 a flanking move to tell the Ukrainians we got you backed on 1050 01:02:06,090 --> 01:02:09,930 two sides from the east and from the south. And you know, when 1051 01:02:09,930 --> 01:02:13,920 you think in those terms, we'll listen to Wolfram broth wrap it 1052 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,200 up. No other words you can call this but a war, right? 1053 01:02:17,700 --> 01:02:19,890 War, it's a war. It's a war installation, etc. 1054 01:02:20,070 --> 01:02:21,660 But but there's really this. There's a war 1055 01:02:21,689 --> 01:02:24,509 guys business. He's NATO. He's got nothing to do with these two 1056 01:02:24,509 --> 01:02:25,079 countries. 1057 01:02:25,140 --> 01:02:27,540 These wars going on in eastern Ukraine. Right, I did hear the 1058 01:02:27,540 --> 01:02:30,540 NATO Supreme Allied Commander raised that possibility that 1059 01:02:30,540 --> 01:02:33,240 they might even be bringing in equipment that could use nuclear 1060 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,970 weapons. That's an ominous question, and would violate half 1061 01:02:35,970 --> 01:02:36,600 a dozen treaties. 1062 01:02:36,990 --> 01:02:40,860 No. They're not NATO's point that out, 1063 01:02:40,980 --> 01:02:44,970 Ukraine gave up its nuclear arsenal in order to get its 1064 01:02:44,970 --> 01:02:47,580 independence, if you will, and if you will, moved all those 1065 01:02:47,580 --> 01:02:50,220 nuclear weapons out. The Russians promised at the time, 1066 01:02:50,220 --> 01:02:53,070 they would never undermine Ukrainian sovereignty. How's 1067 01:02:53,070 --> 01:02:53,550 that working out? 1068 01:02:54,300 --> 01:02:58,260 How's that working out? How's that working out? Dr. Fauci. 1069 01:02:58,290 --> 01:03:00,360 Thanks so much, as always, for joining 1070 01:03:00,540 --> 01:03:04,740 us meddling. Good to be here both. Good to be here. Dr. Fauci 1071 01:03:04,740 --> 01:03:08,340 was on another show recently, we'll get to that. Okay, well, 1072 01:03:08,790 --> 01:03:11,700 before we get to that, I'd sure like to take a break here. 1073 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,300 Okay, I just wanted I wanted to wind it up with my last 1074 01:03:15,630 --> 01:03:18,390 meal, then wind it up. That's what I was going to do. Well, 1075 01:03:18,390 --> 01:03:21,240 you know, you were gonna talk to Doc by Dr. Fauci. That was just 1076 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:22,080 the broth thing. 1077 01:03:22,650 --> 01:03:30,570 Okay. I wanted to play the this morning's propaganda on CNN. So 1078 01:03:30,570 --> 01:03:35,820 what possibly could be funnier and not true than nuclear 1079 01:03:35,820 --> 01:03:43,050 capable machinery being moved into Crimea? How about Russian 1080 01:03:43,050 --> 01:03:48,870 bombers? Next up to flying over the Gulf of Mexico. I think I've 1081 01:03:48,870 --> 01:03:51,780 got a better version of the clip. Alright. Tell me which one 1082 01:03:51,780 --> 01:03:52,980 it is? Well, it's 1083 01:03:52,980 --> 01:03:53,970 up there. It says. 1084 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,010 Oh, airplane and golf. Here we go. That's Roulot. Now Russia 1085 01:03:59,010 --> 01:04:03,000 has said it plans to send long range bombers on flight patrols 1086 01:04:03,030 --> 01:04:06,150 over North American waters including the Gulf of Mexico. 1087 01:04:06,180 --> 01:04:09,630 The aim it says to secure the country's military presence over 1088 01:04:09,630 --> 01:04:12,510 the West Atlantic eastern Pacific and the Caribbean and 1089 01:04:12,510 --> 01:04:15,870 Gulf of Mexico it comes just days after NATO singled out some 1090 01:04:15,870 --> 01:04:19,530 Russian incursions into European airspace with some aircraft 1091 01:04:19,530 --> 01:04:22,950 flying what it called provocative routes the US though 1092 01:04:23,130 --> 01:04:27,300 playing down Moscow's plan missions as routine training in 1093 01:04:27,300 --> 01:04:31,170 international airspace so that's that's that clip was actually 1094 01:04:31,740 --> 01:04:34,440 too decent. That's not good 1095 01:04:34,650 --> 01:04:37,980 clip is Ridgeway my clip actually has the punch line but 1096 01:04:37,980 --> 01:04:42,510 go ahead play your clip that is probably more sensational. 1097 01:04:42,540 --> 01:04:45,270 Yeah, we have to start off by this Russia. You're going to 1098 01:04:45,540 --> 01:04:50,310 this is how you start off the the item Russia, Russia, 1099 01:04:50,340 --> 01:04:54,150 Russia, Russia is flexing its military muscle it would appear 1100 01:04:54,330 --> 01:04:57,420 it would appear is planning to send long range bombers to 1101 01:04:57,420 --> 01:05:00,300 patrol the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean. That would bring 1102 01:05:00,300 --> 01:05:04,560 the flights close to the US to comfort to close rather for come 1103 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:04,740 from 1104 01:05:05,700 --> 01:05:08,100 very close it's right here in the context here 1105 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,820 and then the picture from Getty Images yes some Obama tuple F 1106 01:05:14,820 --> 01:05:19,260 bomb or black and white pictures information which prop they 1107 01:05:19,260 --> 01:05:22,710 needed sound effects exactly hold on we need we need prop 1108 01:05:22,710 --> 01:05:30,210 sounds do I have props it's really really really it's not 1109 01:05:30,660 --> 01:05:30,870 it's 1110 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:37,470 well it comes after NATO warned Russia about moving combat 1111 01:05:37,470 --> 01:05:41,160 troops into eastern Ukraine tensions very 1112 01:05:41,220 --> 01:05:44,760 very high or bringing tensions very very hot 1113 01:05:44,819 --> 01:05:48,599 argument where you say those bombers your this was right 1114 01:05:48,629 --> 01:05:52,559 after you as though there's a connection there's no connection 1115 01:05:52,709 --> 01:05:53,159 and then they 1116 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,400 bring on some douche now the thing with CNN and I'm sure the 1117 01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:02,190 blaze does it as well all of these former retired guys 1118 01:06:02,460 --> 01:06:07,920 they're all consultants to companies that either directly 1119 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:14,100 manufacture weaponry or our think tanks that help 1120 01:06:14,100 --> 01:06:15,780 manufacture that help 1121 01:06:16,050 --> 01:06:19,950 yeah no they bring in a professor or somebody who's just 1122 01:06:19,950 --> 01:06:24,030 studying this problem Oh it's always former Colonel when they 1123 01:06:24,030 --> 01:06:26,820 bring him on he they won't bring him on anything else because 1124 01:06:26,820 --> 01:06:29,250 he's like he's a he's a Negative Nelly 1125 01:06:29,790 --> 01:06:33,990 not on board not on board. Or like Don you know, 1126 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,940 a point about this. I just my clip was better because it said 1127 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,450 that nobody in the White House our own government said this is 1128 01:06:42,450 --> 01:06:46,920 just a routine flight over international airspace is a 1129 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,210 routine exercise which is 1130 01:06:48,300 --> 01:06:51,600 which is also we have the open skies agreement right and then 1131 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:55,110 it's just a routine extra we do this yes, we fly over Russia. 1132 01:06:55,110 --> 01:06:57,090 It's part of the Open Skies agreement. Yes. 1133 01:06:57,210 --> 01:07:00,870 So you don't meet so you put these to us at this is just 1134 01:07:01,290 --> 01:07:04,740 trying to scare the American public to so they can be 1135 01:07:04,740 --> 01:07:05,970 manipulative. Not 1136 01:07:05,970 --> 01:07:10,170 only will I admit that your clip was better, I will also say 1137 01:07:10,830 --> 01:07:12,870 thank you for your courage. And in the morning to you John 1138 01:07:12,870 --> 01:07:16,380 C. Dvorak. I was wondering if you'd ever asked in the morning 1139 01:07:16,380 --> 01:07:18,630 to you Adam curry in the morning and all ships at sea boots on 1140 01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:20,790 the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the days 1141 01:07:20,790 --> 01:07:21,660 and nights out and in 1142 01:07:21,660 --> 01:07:24,870 the morning to all of our human resources there in the chat 1143 01:07:24,870 --> 01:07:28,590 room. No agenda stream.com in the morning to our artists. 1144 01:07:29,070 --> 01:07:34,350 Thank you Nick the red for the album art for episode 668 no 1145 01:07:34,350 --> 01:07:37,920 agenda art generator.com is where you can the newly revamped 1146 01:07:38,490 --> 01:07:42,000 generator where you can find all of the art Deb it's apparently 1147 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,150 much easier now for artists they can choose from two different 1148 01:07:45,150 --> 01:07:48,600 templates or not use a template and nor make their own and it's 1149 01:07:48,660 --> 01:07:53,640 an it's based on Drupal, headless, headless, no. 1150 01:07:55,380 --> 01:08:00,840 Your head was gone. Oh, hey, you should have dropped in 1151 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,370 one of these days we should get you a sad 1152 01:08:03,690 --> 01:08:08,010 thing here you Adam. Adam to her Drupal is here the head of her 1153 01:08:08,010 --> 01:08:08,280 head 1154 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:14,970 is gone. All right. Wow. So, yes. So, finding and playing 1155 01:08:15,060 --> 01:08:18,750 this type of material on our program is not in line with the 1156 01:08:18,750 --> 01:08:23,190 commercial interests of most advertisers and or groups who 1157 01:08:23,190 --> 01:08:27,210 will go after your advertisers if you do not adhere to their 1158 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:31,260 strict political correctness or other forms of cultural Marxism. 1159 01:08:31,470 --> 01:08:34,200 And therefore we have chosen for a value for value model which 1160 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,530 means not only are we produced by a global intelligence network 1161 01:08:37,620 --> 01:08:40,590 around the world, but also financially supported by them. 1162 01:08:40,590 --> 01:08:43,080 So who is supporting us for today as 1163 01:08:44,609 --> 01:08:48,359 today's little light Oh, and we have a wildly after that 1164 01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,570 newsletter where you said hello, it's been light. Yeah, 1165 01:08:51,599 --> 01:08:55,289 yeah, I didn't say it right apparently. is it's a tray is a 1166 01:08:55,289 --> 01:08:58,349 technique trick to do it could get anyone to actually read the 1167 01:08:58,349 --> 01:09:01,289 newsletter and the famous words I think, by the way, one of my 1168 01:09:01,289 --> 01:09:05,699 problem is, is I didn't have a picture attached. Oh, seems to 1169 01:09:05,699 --> 01:09:11,309 be what people care about most. You know. He bought me a picture 1170 01:09:11,309 --> 01:09:15,359 when you're in New York have yesterday they having a cigar. 1171 01:09:15,389 --> 01:09:15,539 Let me 1172 01:09:15,539 --> 01:09:19,829 tell you, yes. Oh, for sure. Yesterday, Mickey did a photo in 1173 01:09:19,829 --> 01:09:25,889 the garage, photoshoot. naked chicks like naked. Yeah. And you 1174 01:09:25,889 --> 01:09:28,289 know me, it's like, and so we have a door on the other side. 1175 01:09:28,409 --> 01:09:32,969 You know, no, no, no, I'm not allowed to not get through the 1176 01:09:32,969 --> 01:09:36,839 peephole. No, no, I've been trained. I do not I don't even 1177 01:09:36,839 --> 01:09:39,959 glance over because it can make them nervous. Whatever. I'm very 1178 01:09:39,959 --> 01:09:43,529 proper. This is Mickey's business. I'm proper. And then 1179 01:09:43,559 --> 01:09:47,159 you know, so like, two hours go by. And then there's a knock on 1180 01:09:47,159 --> 01:09:51,299 my studio door. And it's sir Jean, who apparently has been 1181 01:09:51,299 --> 01:09:54,389 doing lights during this entire shoot. What 1182 01:09:55,650 --> 01:09:58,770 is how did he manage I'll come and do lies 1183 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:05,610 Do likes to if he's like, man, like Oh, can you help me find 1184 01:10:05,610 --> 01:10:11,040 the tea? I gotta make tea for every lot of funny story that's 1185 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,430 messed up. So we'll get a picture of Jean in the studio 1186 01:10:14,430 --> 01:10:16,170 with a naked models about Yeah. 1187 01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:22,590 All right, I'll thanks a few people to get this finished. 1188 01:10:22,830 --> 01:10:26,820 Because not much to do here. Anonymous Baron $333.33 from 1189 01:10:26,820 --> 01:10:29,580 Jamaica Payne, Massachusetts make Jamaica Plain 1190 01:10:29,790 --> 01:10:33,030 Massachusetts. And this is a contribution toward Tom 1191 01:10:33,060 --> 01:10:35,670 Canberras posthumous knighthood oh yeah, 1192 01:10:35,700 --> 01:10:41,910 this is this has been really this has been really nice to 1193 01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:42,450 see. 1194 01:10:43,019 --> 01:10:45,389 Yeah, there's a bunch and I think we're almost there. 1195 01:10:45,389 --> 01:10:48,959 According to Eric, he's got it down to like seven or $800 so 1196 01:10:48,959 --> 01:10:52,619 far. So take a look at Eric's node. Tom, Tom Kuhn, Berra by 1197 01:10:52,619 --> 01:10:56,759 the way KU era. And if anyone doesn't remember, you can 1198 01:10:56,759 --> 01:11:00,659 actually Oh, I got I got a note from Angela because 757 of the 1199 01:11:00,659 --> 01:11:04,259 757 I got a note from from Angela. 1200 01:11:04,710 --> 01:11:10,800 Let me see if I have it. Here. She She's also really blown away 1201 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,170 by by what's happening home on one so you've just got a minute 1202 01:11:13,170 --> 01:11:18,480 I can I think I can retrieve it here. Yeah, put it in my notes. 1203 01:11:19,260 --> 01:11:22,710 I when I saw this, I was like, wow, that's gone pretty quickly. 1204 01:11:24,570 --> 01:11:27,030 Hey, Adam, and John. I want to thank the listeners gave towards 1205 01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:30,510 my husband Tom's passing his knighthood on Sunday show. And 1206 01:11:30,510 --> 01:11:33,090 then she so she's thanking the ones that she heard on Sunday 1207 01:11:33,090 --> 01:11:37,050 show Taylor Casella, Daniel Torello Bill Hartnett and Carol 1208 01:11:37,050 --> 01:11:40,140 Garrett. Of course there's many more that came in today. I'm 1209 01:11:40,170 --> 01:11:42,600 forever grateful for your thoughtfulness, generosity and 1210 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,760 kindness. I was so touched when I heard these donations being 1211 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,690 read on the show. My husband Tom would love this. I'm sure he 1212 01:11:48,690 --> 01:11:51,240 knows somehow and is smiling. Yeah, but yeah, we 1213 01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,570 have on the list of for Angela Canberra, which is her Taylor 1214 01:11:54,570 --> 01:11:59,970 Costello. Daniel Terrell telio Bill Hart net Brett Phegley Sir 1215 01:11:59,970 --> 01:12:04,800 John Adams, Carol Garrett, Sir David drawl and anonymous Baron 1216 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,950 who just came in right now and sort of gray fantast so that's 1217 01:12:07,980 --> 01:12:11,940 the list and we're up to 757 So I get the next show probably. 1218 01:12:12,330 --> 01:12:16,350 And when it's great it's really just kind of touching. Okay, so 1219 01:12:16,350 --> 01:12:18,540 should executive producers for today's show we got three of 1220 01:12:18,540 --> 01:12:22,320 them. Dame Joan data free in Morgantown, West Virginia, your 1221 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,840 stomping grounds to 7777 1222 01:12:24,870 --> 01:12:27,180 Did you receive an email from her about the to Brian, 1223 01:12:27,540 --> 01:12:30,480 I'm gonna look for it before we get to the birthday segment and 1224 01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:32,970 then when we start that I'll tell you the names and you'll 1225 01:12:32,970 --> 01:12:36,480 put them on the list. She's got 100 Each for two birthdays and a 1226 01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:40,770 sack of sevens for the belated anniversary so we will find that 1227 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:47,490 email William low rock in locust North Carolina to 2222 as my 1228 01:12:47,490 --> 01:12:50,670 first large donation I need some job karma. Not only am I 1229 01:12:50,670 --> 01:12:53,940 interested in interviewing for a new gig soon I also just found 1230 01:12:53,940 --> 01:12:59,040 out my current employer intends to fire me in January after I 1231 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,350 helped him build his drone business. 1232 01:13:01,710 --> 01:13:05,430 What? Yeah, oh, that's lame. Mo 1233 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,270 i love the show and have been listening since August 13. 1234 01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:14,310 August August 2013. And have hit several people in the mouth just 1235 01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:20,940 for fun. Could you throw in a ISIS ISIS baby? Yeah, job Carmen 1236 01:13:20,940 --> 01:13:22,050 ISIS ISIS baby. 1237 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,450 I got it. I was Ah come on you fuck I'm sorry. Sorry, 1238 01:13:27,450 --> 01:13:30,870 Tourette's. Tourette's tres. Ah, it's just annoying. Sometimes 1239 01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:33,000 the I'm not going to outwork. Alright, here we go 1240 01:13:44,820 --> 01:13:48,480 you've got karma. Yeah, read ahead for these things. And I've 1241 01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:51,450 been while you were talking I was trying to get the jingle in 1242 01:13:51,450 --> 01:13:53,040 for like 10 seconds. 1243 01:13:53,130 --> 01:13:56,400 It was a job Skarmory needed and you left out the jobs part 1244 01:13:56,430 --> 01:13:57,720 because I was completely 1245 01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:03,870 distracted. Alright, everything's going wrong. going 1246 01:14:03,870 --> 01:14:09,300 wrong. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. 1247 01:14:11,190 --> 01:14:13,680 You've got the good karma there we go there we 1248 01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:18,390 got a double of karma. He's gonna He's gonna get shot work. 1249 01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:20,880 Maybe a good job working for the government. That's your best so 1250 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:27,510 that's where Don So Don keel he puts kill it because I've always 1251 01:14:27,510 --> 01:14:32,490 thought that was cool. That was wrong. In Windham, North. North 1252 01:14:32,550 --> 01:14:39,390 north. New Hampshire, North Hampshire to 2222 He's in 1253 01:14:39,390 --> 01:14:43,770 Windham north north Hampshire. ITM John and Adam time to donate 1254 01:14:43,770 --> 01:14:47,790 again. First I need some serious maximum big time job karma. i 1255 01:14:47,790 --> 01:14:52,110 Okay. Any other jingle Adam, Adam, Adam Chu. I can nobody 1256 01:14:52,110 --> 01:14:54,480 gives me an opportunity to choose a jingle. 1257 01:14:55,230 --> 01:15:01,110 I delegate my jingle choice to the state was gentleman from 1258 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:01,890 California 1259 01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:14,160 I will pick that Calypso Thank you for keeping me sane which is 1260 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,160 apparently a number of people believe we do. And I think we 1261 01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:21,420 do. Thanks for keeping me sane and entertained 1262 01:15:30,780 --> 01:15:40,740 jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs. Karma nice choice 1263 01:15:40,740 --> 01:15:44,790 sir. Well plan we have this as all we get for today's show and 1264 01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:49,230 this is show 669 We didn't nobody came up with the 669 now 1265 01:15:49,260 --> 01:15:52,350 to become the only club member but that's okay. We do have a 1266 01:15:52,350 --> 01:15:57,330 show coming up on Sunday and it will be show 670 Think about how 1267 01:15:57,330 --> 01:15:58,110 many shows we've 1268 01:15:58,110 --> 01:16:02,220 done of which portion of my side will be done from New York City 1269 01:16:02,220 --> 01:16:02,820 and you're gonna 1270 01:16:02,820 --> 01:16:04,680 actually bring the gear to New York City. We'll do the show 1271 01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:09,060 from there. I'll be stuck here in the in the north Highlands. 1272 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:13,620 And we want to remind people go to dvorak.org/n H challenge of 1273 01:16:13,620 --> 01:16:17,880 rit.com/na the no agenda show in the no agenda nation.com sites 1274 01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,180 both have donate buttons you can click on and find an alternative 1275 01:16:22,230 --> 01:16:27,210 route to the donation section of the of the blogs and I also 1276 01:16:27,210 --> 01:16:31,620 wanted to thank producer Jerry small he heard us talking a 1277 01:16:31,620 --> 01:16:36,240 while back about what kind of a projector Mizuhiki should get 1278 01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,820 for those who want to do something in projection and some 1279 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,660 Oh yeah. He said he's had one laying around it's secondhand 1280 01:16:42,660 --> 01:16:50,340 but he had one laying around a Canon S x x. This is like it is 1281 01:16:50,340 --> 01:16:51,930 a fantastic machine. 1282 01:16:52,230 --> 01:16:55,710 Let's see with an extra bulb. Oh that's what you need. 1283 01:16:55,740 --> 01:16:58,800 This thing is nice. Ken and 1284 01:16:58,950 --> 01:17:03,630 S X at checkout the look at this look at 1285 01:17:03,630 --> 01:17:07,080 this thing. I don't know how many lumens it has but it's his 1286 01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:07,920 it gets a six 1287 01:17:07,950 --> 01:17:10,080 at the mark two or the mark one 1288 01:17:10,110 --> 01:17:12,540 I don't know. You know, I don't know that. I 1289 01:17:12,540 --> 01:17:16,800 don't know. Okay, well it looks like a winner. Yeah, well, she 1290 01:17:16,830 --> 01:17:19,530 she was playing with scotch 3000 lumens. 1291 01:17:20,700 --> 01:17:25,590 That's what you want. Right? And yeah, I just wanted to thank him 1292 01:17:25,590 --> 01:17:28,110 for that she's gonna thank him separately but I was just like 1293 01:17:28,110 --> 01:17:33,690 wow, that was nice. That was nice. Thank you I'm sure you'll 1294 01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:35,790 you'll be thanked appropriately 1295 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,600 by that so make sure that I just who is it again that did this 1296 01:17:39,630 --> 01:17:43,680 Jerry small Jerry get some get some photos in exchange for 1297 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:43,950 this. 1298 01:17:44,130 --> 01:17:52,290 Maybe you can do lights slash and everybody we still need you 1299 01:17:52,290 --> 01:17:54,900 to go out there and do the very important work of propagating 1300 01:17:54,900 --> 01:18:00,300 our formula our formula is this we go out we get people in the 1301 01:18:00,300 --> 01:18:00,600 mouth 1302 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:17,220 a citizen and this just in at the very last moment before the 1303 01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:22,380 before we started with them with a with a broadcast after Matt 1304 01:18:22,380 --> 01:18:27,870 Taibbi rejected himself from the $250 million WordPress blog 1305 01:18:27,870 --> 01:18:36,450 known as The Wizard that long didn't even start the the editor 1306 01:18:36,450 --> 01:18:38,490 in chief John Cook has left 1307 01:18:39,030 --> 01:18:41,610 that guy came over made a big deal about this you because 1308 01:18:41,610 --> 01:18:46,530 he came from Gawker I think. And he's going back to Gawker, just 1309 01:18:46,530 --> 01:18:49,650 like time he's going back to Rolling Stone. This tells me 1310 01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:54,360 tells me there's some bad poopoo going on there. We spotted that 1311 01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,240 year drive and we said Yeah, we did. And we're like, this is 1312 01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:01,740 great. This is fantastic. Be like now this is bullcrap. 1313 01:19:02,610 --> 01:19:05,670 i Before we continue by the way and before we get into that a 1314 01:19:05,670 --> 01:19:10,560 little more I do have Joan data phrase note. Oh please. She did 1315 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,830 request a couple of sound effects. Okay. 1316 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,100 Can then kind of get my pen first for the birthdays yet the 1317 01:19:17,100 --> 01:19:19,050 pen. I got the pen we're good here. Here's 1318 01:19:19,050 --> 01:19:21,780 the pin. Let me read the note for the pic for the pen first. 1319 01:19:21,780 --> 01:19:24,330 Alright, I'm such a douchebag again, I forgot to donate for my 1320 01:19:24,330 --> 01:19:27,780 birthday for the birthday of my son sir Max return 14 Last 1321 01:19:27,780 --> 01:19:32,220 Friday the 11 Seven. I got a terrible mom please do the couch 1322 01:19:32,220 --> 01:19:35,850 me for that. She says it thinks she meant d do she needs a D 1323 01:19:35,850 --> 01:19:38,580 douching put that down. And don't forget his birthday. I 1324 01:19:38,580 --> 01:19:42,840 just forgot to donate. And also my husband Alex is turning 50 1325 01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,240 this Friday. That's tomorrow. So women 1326 01:19:46,350 --> 01:19:49,440 she forgot her son's birthday and her husband's birthday. 1327 01:19:49,470 --> 01:19:51,900 No, no, her husband is tomorrow. So she remembered that 1328 01:19:51,930 --> 01:19:55,530 oh, the kid. Oh, poor kid. 1329 01:19:55,920 --> 01:20:00,000 Sir Max and an owl and Alex and she needed even though you 1330 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,480 refuses to listen to the show is your husband on there you go 1331 01:20:03,690 --> 01:20:06,390 good. I still love him and would like to wish him a happy 1332 01:20:06,390 --> 01:20:08,970 birthday then again this really stupid my wedding anniversary 1333 01:20:09,390 --> 01:20:11,970 anniversary of the no agenda show fall on the same date 1334 01:20:12,150 --> 01:20:15,660 October 26. And I didn't donate for that either. I always mean 1335 01:20:15,660 --> 01:20:18,360 to but then I lose my mind I count on you guys to remind me 1336 01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,180 of my own wedding anniversary you follow through and then I 1337 01:20:21,180 --> 01:20:26,310 dropped the ball it's the fault of hormones if you ask me so you 1338 01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:30,720 need sir Max. Alex and then the her and her wedding on October 1339 01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,270 Anniversaries are actually three things and and here's what she 1340 01:20:33,270 --> 01:20:36,660 wanted. If it's not too late to read it could I please ask for a 1341 01:20:36,750 --> 01:20:41,520 president Porky Pig and an Al Sharpton resist we much on 1342 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:45,780 That's not that bad? No, it's not like a confusing mess. And 1343 01:20:45,780 --> 01:20:48,540 then that'll finish and we'll have we got her all straightened 1344 01:20:48,540 --> 01:20:48,900 out. 1345 01:20:50,130 --> 01:20:54,960 Okay, and douching, Porky resist karma. 1346 01:20:55,620 --> 01:20:57,930 She doesn't ask for karma, but I give her some okay. 1347 01:21:00,030 --> 01:21:04,350 You've been de deuced that's how we that's how we 1348 01:21:12,390 --> 01:21:17,160 and that's the story. But resist. We must. We must. You 1349 01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:23,520 will my mind. Okay. All right. We're all caught up. All right. 1350 01:21:25,170 --> 01:21:27,870 Well, back to this, this intercept thing. 1351 01:21:28,530 --> 01:21:30,090 Yes. That's great. 1352 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,910 I just want I do want to point out that we said from the get 1353 01:21:32,910 --> 01:21:38,550 go, this was the very first day and so who else needs where's 1354 01:21:38,550 --> 01:21:42,660 it? What's the guy's name? The hoity toity Professor douchebag, 1355 01:21:42,660 --> 01:21:46,950 who was also the blogger Dude, come on, what's his name? That 1356 01:21:47,010 --> 01:21:50,880 was consulting for them. It's like Jeff Jarvis. 1357 01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,230 What's the guy's name and why you wrote it 1358 01:21:55,259 --> 01:21:59,099 Brad. Jeff Rosen. Hey, how's that working out for you Jeff 1359 01:21:59,099 --> 01:22:02,789 rosin Jay Rosen have with noise from now on. He's Jeff Rosen. 1360 01:22:02,879 --> 01:22:05,099 Okay, Jeff Rosen and Jay Jarvis. 1361 01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,700 Sounds good. Yeah, I guess that didn't work out it wasn't here 1362 01:22:08,700 --> 01:22:11,580 it is, you know they're gonna have all this freedom and and 1363 01:22:11,580 --> 01:22:14,430 this guy who comes in as the editor he says we're stopping 1364 01:22:14,430 --> 01:22:16,980 right now in our tracks. And we're the guy 1365 01:22:17,009 --> 01:22:20,549 that said we're going to celebrate the Sabbath or 1366 01:22:20,549 --> 01:22:21,149 something when 1367 01:22:23,700 --> 01:22:26,010 the whole thing is whacked. Oh, 1368 01:22:26,130 --> 01:22:31,920 hey, are you from the hood all of a sudden? Yeah. James Cook is 1369 01:22:31,950 --> 01:22:32,700 with an E 1370 01:22:33,420 --> 01:22:35,610 No, no, I think because James Cook and 1371 01:22:35,610 --> 01:22:37,530 let me see what we have in here we go 1372 01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,890 and it does. He does. He sent a missive out for us to read about 1373 01:22:40,890 --> 01:22:45,480 how why he quit. No, this isn't making too much money. 1374 01:22:45,570 --> 01:22:51,000 This is this. This just came in so just before the show starts I 1375 01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:55,380 don't know if there's if there's any other news Let me see. No, I 1376 01:22:55,380 --> 01:22:56,280 don't have anything else. 1377 01:22:57,570 --> 01:22:59,790 What about the site itself? They should have some announcement 1378 01:22:59,790 --> 01:23:03,210 there. Well, okay, I EB That's hilarious. 1379 01:23:07,050 --> 01:23:12,090 Well, Ty EB what is it? What what's it called first look. 1380 01:23:13,290 --> 01:23:16,170 At first look, Meteor. So like they have the crappiest. 1381 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,490 I know they. I think the guy is just maybe there was no maybe 1382 01:23:20,490 --> 01:23:23,430 they just did this on the cheap. expecting 1383 01:23:23,490 --> 01:23:26,910 that now they had they were the grand jury. Well, they're 1384 01:23:26,910 --> 01:23:31,770 building a safe room in the New York offices, right? 1385 01:23:32,340 --> 01:23:35,340 Yeah, because they're gonna get raided. So but 1386 01:23:35,910 --> 01:23:39,720 and by the way, I think that that would make them that goes 1387 01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:41,730 beyond their mission, I think are important to now this is 1388 01:23:41,730 --> 01:23:44,760 from the 28th so this is the Matt Taibbi announcement from 1389 01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:48,030 Pierre and we do drive my car. I regret to announce that after 1390 01:23:48,030 --> 01:23:51,000 several weeks of discussions Matt Taibbi has left first look, 1391 01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:53,700 we wish him well. Our differences were never about 1392 01:23:53,700 --> 01:23:56,730 editorial independence. We have never wavered from our pledge 1393 01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,400 that journalistic content is for the journalist who decides come 1394 01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:02,460 up period. We're disappointed by how things have turned out. He 1395 01:24:02,460 --> 01:24:05,130 was excited by Matt's editorial vision and hope to help him 1396 01:24:05,130 --> 01:24:08,160 bring it to fruition. Now we turn our focus to exploring next 1397 01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,890 steps for the talented team that has worked to create Max 1398 01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:11,790 publication. 1399 01:24:14,220 --> 01:24:17,970 Like to get the real story on this tie is one of those things 1400 01:24:17,970 --> 01:24:21,090 that remind reminded of an interview with a with a 1401 01:24:21,090 --> 01:24:25,170 Hollywood guy, Michael Bay was on a show that is now not on any 1402 01:24:25,170 --> 01:24:27,270 longer. But it was always discussing these little things 1403 01:24:27,270 --> 01:24:30,840 with Peter Guber and a couple other other guests. It was a 1404 01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,540 very it was all inside baseball about the movies. He said, when 1405 01:24:33,540 --> 01:24:36,600 he first got the Transformers gig, that you know, he said, 1406 01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,280 Well, it sounds good because there's a lot of money involved. 1407 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:42,810 And they said they wanted him to do it in Canada. And he goes up 1408 01:24:42,810 --> 01:24:45,720 to Canada and he says, This isn't right. There's something 1409 01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:49,770 wrong here. This is not good. This is some sort of scam. So he 1410 01:24:49,770 --> 01:24:52,710 came back he says I'm doing it in Hollywood with my people. 1411 01:24:52,740 --> 01:24:57,420 Oh yeah. But here it is. Grande Grimaldo rap so they had they 1412 01:24:57,420 --> 01:25:01,290 pulled Glenn out to write the the old it want to hear it. 1413 01:25:01,470 --> 01:25:04,920 Yeah. John's headline doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo John 1414 01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,620 Cook is leaving the intercept to return to Gawker at the end of 1415 01:25:07,620 --> 01:25:11,550 the year. Pretty much now what the intercepts Editor in Chief 1416 01:25:11,550 --> 01:25:14,310 John Cook who spent the year tripling our staff size and 1417 01:25:14,310 --> 01:25:17,910 significantly increasing our daily journalistic output is 1418 01:25:17,910 --> 01:25:19,980 leaving at the end of the year to return to Gawker Media. 1419 01:25:20,220 --> 01:25:23,550 Deputy Editor Ryan Tate will continue to work with John and 1420 01:25:23,550 --> 01:25:26,100 the rest of the newsroom to effect a smooth transition until 1421 01:25:26,100 --> 01:25:28,980 the search for cooks permanent replacement already underway 1422 01:25:28,980 --> 01:25:32,850 it's completed. Quote, working with my intercept colleagues has 1423 01:25:32,850 --> 01:25:35,430 been one of the most fulfilling things I've done in my career 1424 01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:38,520 and my decision to leave was a painful one to make Cook said 1425 01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:42,030 but I feel comfortable leaving in the knowledge of this that it 1426 01:25:42,030 --> 01:25:44,850 is now perfectly situated to become a powerful journalistic 1427 01:25:44,850 --> 01:25:47,190 force under new editorial leadership. 1428 01:25:47,220 --> 01:25:49,650 Oh he's a good guy he's one of those guys who never said 1429 01:25:49,650 --> 01:25:51,510 anything but doesn't want burn bridges 1430 01:25:52,830 --> 01:25:56,190 blah blah let's get a quote farm. Oh, John Cook did a 1431 01:25:56,550 --> 01:25:59,580 tremendous job in getting the intercept off the ground said 1432 01:25:59,580 --> 01:26:03,480 intercept co founding editor Jeremy Scahill is great. We got 1433 01:26:03,510 --> 01:26:07,080 Greenwald interviewing his co founding editors great. He was 1434 01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,450 the perfect person to lead us through the inevitable 1435 01:26:09,570 --> 01:26:12,690 inevitably difficult first year of figuring out how we want it 1436 01:26:12,690 --> 01:26:15,720 to function and exactly what we want it to be. We are now 1437 01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,300 preparing to expand the intercepts coverage and bring on 1438 01:26:18,300 --> 01:26:19,620 more journalists 1439 01:26:21,030 --> 01:26:24,720 that it was fired for hiring too many people probably breaking 1440 01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:25,260 the bank 1441 01:26:25,559 --> 01:26:29,489 he he wasn't the guy he saw what's going on so it's it's 1442 01:26:29,819 --> 01:26:31,109 phony baloney 1443 01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:37,200 was something we met there's something that will obviously 1444 01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,120 drove him anti EB out 1445 01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:45,540 or Tybee part part of it was he was accused of being a dick. He 1446 01:26:45,540 --> 01:26:48,600 said yes, he said you stupid bitch or something to some woman 1447 01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:49,050 there. 1448 01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:53,040 Oh no. Yeah, but then they she was a stupid bitch. Is that 1449 01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:53,550 possible? They 1450 01:26:53,550 --> 01:26:56,340 brought in independent investigators and they said oh, 1451 01:26:56,340 --> 01:27:00,120 there was no harm no foul, but I guess like a newsroom where you 1452 01:27:01,170 --> 01:27:04,320 Yeah, newsroom we got it stupid bitch. You missed it. Whatever. 1453 01:27:04,350 --> 01:27:06,840 You could take bitch asshole to a guy whatever. 1454 01:27:08,670 --> 01:27:12,420 Yeah, that's a good would go on. Yeah, people yell at each other. 1455 01:27:12,420 --> 01:27:12,840 Let's see 1456 01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:18,900 what New York Times says. If they they okay, they are just 1457 01:27:18,990 --> 01:27:24,600 they just quoting Greenwald. Of course. It shows up. So they're 1458 01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:30,030 talking about Gawker Media. And they're happy Mr. Nick Denton. 1459 01:27:32,490 --> 01:27:37,470 This is a funny, doesn't Nick Denton do like gossip? Yeah, 1460 01:27:37,470 --> 01:27:40,290 he's a gossip guy. In an interview Thursday, he will do 1461 01:27:40,290 --> 01:27:44,190 what he did best on gawker bring great big scoops. But across the 1462 01:27:44,190 --> 01:27:45,810 eight sites, okay. 1463 01:27:48,510 --> 01:27:51,270 All right. I have advice for these guys. Bring it somebody 1464 01:27:51,270 --> 01:27:52,620 from TMZ. 1465 01:27:53,820 --> 01:27:57,660 Exactly. Yeah. More stories about Kim Kardashians, but 1466 01:27:58,470 --> 01:28:02,010 that'll work. Man. Oh, man. Oh, man. 1467 01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:04,110 You stupid bitches. Funny. 1468 01:28:04,139 --> 01:28:07,889 It's something like that. I was reading the whole as rundown of 1469 01:28:07,889 --> 01:28:15,629 it. It's just ridiculous. Let me see. Oh, okay. Whoa. Yes. I was. 1470 01:28:15,899 --> 01:28:16,589 Sorry. Go ahead. 1471 01:28:16,620 --> 01:28:18,600 I'm sorry. I said two words. So that's okay. So 1472 01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:19,350 what did you want to say? 1473 01:28:20,730 --> 01:28:23,820 My son and I came back. They were in Hawaii. 1474 01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,490 This is your son who I have a picture of where they lay around 1475 01:28:26,490 --> 01:28:27,780 his neck. Yeah, I 1476 01:28:27,780 --> 01:28:32,850 know. Apparently, the Hawaiians are all in on hating Obama. You 1477 01:28:32,850 --> 01:28:34,920 know, remember when Obama first became president, he would make 1478 01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,680 this trip to Hawaii for the first couple of years and then 1479 01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,980 he never went again. So they have these mints. He brought 1480 01:28:40,980 --> 01:28:45,270 some back to mint. Mint. Little boxes of mints. I've seen 1481 01:28:45,540 --> 01:28:48,390 peppermint. Yeah. peppermints. And one of them says 1482 01:28:49,140 --> 01:28:56,670 disappointed mince Obama. And here's another one. lemon 1483 01:28:56,670 --> 01:28:59,310 flavored eaves drops. 1484 01:29:00,750 --> 01:29:03,390 Prove who makes these who produce? 1485 01:29:03,780 --> 01:29:05,520 That's a question that's up for grabs. It's 1486 01:29:05,910 --> 01:29:06,750 interested in this. This 1487 01:29:06,750 --> 01:29:10,290 is great. The unemployed. He's got some of the unemployed 1488 01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:13,410 philosophers guild they there's what they call themselves and 1489 01:29:13,410 --> 01:29:17,100 it's on the back of each one. The unemployed philosophers 1490 01:29:17,100 --> 01:29:19,410 Guild and I guess they're you know, there's it's a gimmick. 1491 01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:23,640 But it's an all the trinket shops. Apparently a lot of Obama 1492 01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:28,380 stuff. That's all negative. Interesting. I just thought, oh, 1493 01:29:28,380 --> 01:29:29,370 yeah, it was interesting. 1494 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,800 Why do we think this is happening? 1495 01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:38,340 There's a huge backlash against Obama. And it was all apparently 1496 01:29:38,340 --> 01:29:41,310 orchestrated by the Republican Party and I have to give them 1497 01:29:41,310 --> 01:29:45,660 credit for it. They had if you went to you listen to the news 1498 01:29:45,660 --> 01:29:48,630 hour. They had Debbie Wasserman Schultz, 1499 01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:52,170 who is the She's the head of the Democratic Party, the 1500 01:29:52,170 --> 01:29:55,380 Democratic Party, committee, whatever, Democratic National 1501 01:29:55,380 --> 01:29:55,710 Committee, 1502 01:29:55,980 --> 01:29:59,970 I have net this. So this is someone who I I really don't 1503 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,530 Like, yes, she is just an annoying person. Totally notice 1504 01:30:04,530 --> 01:30:05,280 I say person. 1505 01:30:05,970 --> 01:30:11,670 Now let me play two clips then. Yes, just to annoy me. And of 1506 01:30:11,670 --> 01:30:13,710 course she's going to be interviewed about the election 1507 01:30:13,740 --> 01:30:16,740 by Who do you think on the news our might? 1508 01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,830 That's not That's not fair because I have your clip list. 1509 01:30:20,820 --> 01:30:22,020 So I can send 1510 01:30:22,020 --> 01:30:22,380 it 1511 01:30:22,559 --> 01:30:28,529 course the hagiography. Let's play well. Oh, Chuck Hagel on TV 1512 01:30:28,529 --> 01:30:32,369 live right now with a huge bandaid on his face. Oh, 1513 01:30:32,369 --> 01:30:37,439 somebody punched him out. Finally. Wow. You don't have CNN 1514 01:30:38,099 --> 01:30:41,849 now, and I don't have a TV. And when I do the show, I do the 1515 01:30:41,849 --> 01:30:42,239 show. 1516 01:30:42,630 --> 01:30:44,970 Oh, no. But somebody has to keep an eye on the end of the 1517 01:30:45,090 --> 01:30:47,760 show. No, I you know, as far as I'm concerned, you, I think it 1518 01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,910 would be kind of cool to do the show with 25 monitors there and 1519 01:30:50,910 --> 01:30:54,390 you can keep looking around it, but it'd be better for video. 1520 01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:57,870 Anyway, let's get back to this. I'll get them out of the way. So 1521 01:30:58,740 --> 01:31:02,940 Gwen Eiffel asks a specific question, and what is the 1522 01:31:02,940 --> 01:31:07,140 question? Well, the question is, is Nancy Pelosi said it was 1523 01:31:07,140 --> 01:31:10,410 either an appetite or a disaster, some decisions. She 1524 01:31:10,410 --> 01:31:14,370 made some comment and I will ask Debbie wash Wasserman Schultz. 1525 01:31:14,610 --> 01:31:18,240 What what do you think of those two things that Pelosi said? 1526 01:31:18,300 --> 01:31:23,310 Which is worse? Answer. What do you think the answer is? The 1527 01:31:23,310 --> 01:31:29,130 answer is a Debbie Wasserman Schultz. I don't care what 1528 01:31:29,130 --> 01:31:31,320 you're asking me. I'm just gonna talk and say whatever it feels 1529 01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:31,620 like. 1530 01:31:31,980 --> 01:31:35,730 And by the way, it would be funny to have General Dempsey 1531 01:31:35,730 --> 01:31:39,360 introduce her washerman Schultz. 1532 01:31:40,440 --> 01:31:42,870 Nancy Pelosi said in an interview today that this was 1533 01:31:42,870 --> 01:31:46,260 not a GOP way but an ebb tide for the Democrats, which is 1534 01:31:46,260 --> 01:31:51,510 worse. Well, what we're doing is looking beyond just this one 1535 01:31:51,510 --> 01:31:56,130 election, we felt and certainly last Tuesday was a tough night 1536 01:31:56,130 --> 01:32:00,570 for Democrats. But, you know, if you look at 2010 and 2014 1537 01:32:00,780 --> 01:32:05,460 midterm elections, clearly we know the voters support our 1538 01:32:05,460 --> 01:32:09,360 agenda. They consistently last Tuesday voted to increase the 1539 01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:13,410 minimum wage, voted in a gun safety statewide initiative, 1540 01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:16,680 three states, one state defeated personhood amendment 1541 01:32:17,910 --> 01:32:20,790 she did was she points out that you know, Colorado tightened up 1542 01:32:20,790 --> 01:32:23,010 his gun laws and Washington State did too. And so that's a 1543 01:32:23,010 --> 01:32:26,070 big movement that everyone's all in with the Democrats. But 1544 01:32:26,070 --> 01:32:30,630 anyway, I found a this is a kind of an ask Adam, I think this is 1545 01:32:30,630 --> 01:32:33,630 the right clip for it. Do you this is I'm gonna ask you, this 1546 01:32:33,630 --> 01:32:36,870 is a clip of Debbie Wasserman Schultz very, it's not too long. 1547 01:32:37,590 --> 01:32:40,770 And she's discussing this the election disaster which was her 1548 01:32:40,770 --> 01:32:46,380 fault. And she has a new, a new meme a new term something I want 1549 01:32:46,380 --> 01:32:48,570 to see if you can identify it in this clip. 1550 01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:55,560 We have two electorates that it appears are straightening 1551 01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,230 themselves out. And we need to take a deep dive look. And 1552 01:32:58,230 --> 01:33:01,380 that's why I'm going to appoint a committee in the next few days 1553 01:33:01,380 --> 01:33:06,000 to really take a deep dive assessment. There's a disconnect 1554 01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,340 on on the maximum getting out and voting for our candidates 1555 01:33:08,340 --> 01:33:10,740 and midterms and we've got to take a really deep dive on what 1556 01:33:10,740 --> 01:33:11,760 found what the problems 1557 01:33:12,450 --> 01:33:15,180 what do you think it is that she's trying to say? 1558 01:33:15,630 --> 01:33:17,460 How many times can I guess? 1559 01:33:18,389 --> 01:33:20,639 Yes, once Deep Dive. 1560 01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:21,690 That's that. 1561 01:33:21,990 --> 01:33:22,890 That's what I'm thinking. 1562 01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:26,430 I know. I know when this is gonna take a deep dive Adam this 1563 01:33:26,460 --> 01:33:31,560 I've heard this used by management when they've screwed 1564 01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:35,850 something up for a customer. Now we're taking a really deep dive 1565 01:33:35,850 --> 01:33:38,190 to find out what's going on. We'll get to the bottom of this 1566 01:33:38,190 --> 01:33:44,640 as we take the deep dive. That's it means they screwed up. Big 1567 01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:52,560 Ticket big time. Okay, Chuck Hagel. Okay. He had a minor 1568 01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:54,210 kitchen mishap 1569 01:33:56,010 --> 01:33:57,570 his wife went after him he 1570 01:33:57,570 --> 01:34:01,320 stood up quickly and scratched his cheek on an open cabinet 1571 01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:01,920 door. 1572 01:34:02,100 --> 01:34:06,120 Oh, I you know, I have I haven't scratched my cheek but I've come 1573 01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,490 up under an open cabinet door and hit myself right in the head 1574 01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,430 and trickles down your face. I've had that happen to as a kid 1575 01:34:11,430 --> 01:34:11,760 I've never 1576 01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:15,810 had the blood. Oh, and you see stars Yeah, you had to be 1577 01:34:15,810 --> 01:34:18,690 careful you got to keep your cabinet doors closed people. 1578 01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:23,850 But you could I put on a nice like Donald Duck Band Aid or 1579 01:34:23,850 --> 01:34:25,830 some this is one of the standards 1580 01:34:26,220 --> 01:34:29,070 LEA should have there should be some some cute fun. Funny. Yeah, 1581 01:34:29,070 --> 01:34:32,130 maybe like smiley faces and make fun of it. No, that's 1582 01:34:32,130 --> 01:34:32,850 not possible. 1583 01:34:32,970 --> 01:34:36,390 Yeah. No, he's not a funny guy. No. Um, 1584 01:34:36,480 --> 01:34:40,440 I see it happened I think right after I know what it was was 1585 01:34:40,440 --> 01:34:49,440 Monday. Yeah, Monday. I was I was actually depressed. Whoa, 1586 01:34:49,440 --> 01:34:56,460 yeah. For at least 24 hours. And I had drinks actually for 1587 01:34:56,460 --> 01:34:57,180 drinks. 1588 01:34:58,290 --> 01:35:01,860 Get me to drink so that I get in class. During your lightweight 1589 01:35:02,939 --> 01:35:07,499 drinks with something and why is why blu rays good? Yeah, very 1590 01:35:07,499 --> 01:35:09,689 good with Eric, the constitutional lawyer. 1591 01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:13,380 I had to talk to him in a highball glass while you're 1592 01:35:13,380 --> 01:35:14,130 drinking it out of 1593 01:35:14,340 --> 01:35:20,550 it. What? Kind of like a tumbler? I would say. Yeah. And 1594 01:35:20,550 --> 01:35:24,090 it was orange peel in there and some other stuff. Oh, Eric 1595 01:35:24,090 --> 01:35:27,510 ordered it was it was a dynamite drink. But I was definitely 1596 01:35:27,510 --> 01:35:30,300 overserved. But I was I was emotional. And he's the only guy 1597 01:35:30,330 --> 01:35:35,160 around here I can just unload and say, Holy, Holy, Holy, you 1598 01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:35,280 are 1599 01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:36,870 crying like a baby. Yeah, I 1600 01:35:36,870 --> 01:35:43,260 was. Why, after I read the proposed Net Neutrality rules 1601 01:35:43,260 --> 01:35:44,460 from our president. 1602 01:35:47,070 --> 01:35:48,720 Let me walk right into that one. 1603 01:35:49,170 --> 01:35:54,900 And then and, and I got worse, and you need to see this. I have 1604 01:35:54,900 --> 01:35:56,670 set up a little URL for you to visit. 1605 01:35:57,180 --> 01:35:59,520 Because, you know, it's this is the end of our show. 1606 01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:02,850 Eventually. Well, but what Eric would Eric the constitutional 1607 01:36:02,850 --> 01:36:07,260 lawyer said he said Isn't this like really great for your show? 1608 01:36:07,260 --> 01:36:11,640 I said Yeah, until it's and he says oh there's that 1609 01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:14,700 me the URL I need 1610 01:36:14,700 --> 01:36:18,810 to set it up first. So this is a video the President made a video 1611 01:36:19,890 --> 01:36:27,780 and and I was so outraged and sickened by the worthless aihole 1612 01:36:27,780 --> 01:36:32,490 propaganda at the beginning of this video. Want to see if you 1613 01:36:32,490 --> 01:36:35,550 can catch it, John? Well, actually, you're gonna see to me 1614 01:36:35,550 --> 01:36:42,690 the itm.im/buffer and take a look at the beginning of this 1615 01:36:42,690 --> 01:36:43,290 video 1616 01:36:47,790 --> 01:36:56,490 again, it's coming up what do you see it's loading. Okay, what 1617 01:36:56,490 --> 01:36:59,550 is it this thing said what to pick net neutrality predator is 1618 01:36:59,550 --> 01:37:00,720 a picture of him. 1619 01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:05,130 The videoing of Mike Trout lay the video 1620 01:37:06,210 --> 01:37:09,360 by the video and the video is down here Okay, here we are. 1621 01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:12,360 He's in his studio with loud Where's where's Jean played? And 1622 01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:13,980 all this lighting play the video 1623 01:37:13,980 --> 01:37:16,800 and tell me what you see at the beginning of the video. Okay. 1624 01:37:18,630 --> 01:37:26,370 Says buffer all please frown outraged by this. 1625 01:37:26,430 --> 01:37:27,900 This is disgusting. 1626 01:37:27,930 --> 01:37:31,620 Now of course it's legal as the Smith Mundt Act has been 1627 01:37:31,980 --> 01:37:40,170 overturned, but to put up a fake buffering logo to accentuate the 1628 01:37:40,170 --> 01:37:46,020 plan. Here is the audio. Hi everybody, Heil. Ever since the 1629 01:37:46,020 --> 01:37:49,230 internet was created, it's been organized around basic 1630 01:37:49,230 --> 01:37:54,930 principles of openness, fairness, and freedom. Now, this 1631 01:37:54,930 --> 01:38:00,990 will not stand. Actually, the Internet was created in a manner 1632 01:38:01,110 --> 01:38:04,890 so that any piece of it could be a blowed up and the rest of the 1633 01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:08,160 network would continue to operate. That is Joe's days are 1634 01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:13,530 over. It was not for freedom and openness. It was for defense. 1635 01:38:14,250 --> 01:38:17,700 Communication. Yes. So But you're right, it must this must 1636 01:38:17,700 --> 01:38:21,180 end. There are no gatekeepers deciding which sites you get to 1637 01:38:21,180 --> 01:38:25,500 access that must end to We must stop this. There are no toll 1638 01:38:25,500 --> 01:38:31,650 roads on the information superhighway. Hello, 1986. We 1639 01:38:31,650 --> 01:38:35,850 want our superhighway back. This set of principles. The idea of 1640 01:38:35,850 --> 01:38:39,810 net neutrality has unleashed the power of the internet, and given 1641 01:38:39,810 --> 01:38:44,010 innovators the chance to thrive. abandoning these principles 1642 01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:46,590 would threaten to end the Internet as we know it. 1643 01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:51,510 Bullcrap that's why I'm laying out a plan to keep the Internet 1644 01:38:51,510 --> 01:38:54,150 free and open. And that's why I'm urging the Federal 1645 01:38:54,150 --> 01:38:56,580 Communications commissioned to do everything they can to 1646 01:38:56,580 --> 01:39:00,390 protect net neutrality for everyone. They should make it 1647 01:39:00,390 --> 01:39:03,420 clear that whether you use a computer, phone or tablet, 1648 01:39:03,930 --> 01:39:07,650 internet providers have a legal obligation not to block or limit 1649 01:39:07,650 --> 01:39:11,460 your access to a website. Cable companies can decide which 1650 01:39:11,460 --> 01:39:14,790 online stores you can shop at, or which streaming services you 1651 01:39:14,790 --> 01:39:19,110 can use, and they can't let any company pay for priority over 1652 01:39:19,110 --> 01:39:22,770 its competitors. To put these protections in place, I'm asking 1653 01:39:22,770 --> 01:39:26,610 the FCC to reclassify internet service under Title two of a law 1654 01:39:26,610 --> 01:39:30,720 known as the Telecommunications Act. I'm asking them to 1655 01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:33,480 recognize that for most Americans, the Internet has 1656 01:39:33,480 --> 01:39:36,390 become an essential part of everyday communication and 1657 01:39:36,390 --> 01:39:40,200 everyday life. The FCC is an independent agency, and 1658 01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:42,420 ultimately this decision is theirs alone. 1659 01:39:44,010 --> 01:39:46,650 But the public has already commented nearly 4 million 1660 01:39:46,650 --> 01:39:51,180 times. Yeah, the from all the lobbying groups which primarily 1661 01:39:51,180 --> 01:39:57,420 are comprised of Google eBay, Amazon, asking to make sure that 1662 01:39:57,420 --> 01:40:01,740 consumers, not the cable company gets to decide which sites they 1663 01:40:01,740 --> 01:40:07,260 use. Why am I always a consumer? I'm not always a consumer. When 1664 01:40:07,260 --> 01:40:10,320 I'm using the internet, I can be a producer, I can be a 1665 01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:14,460 communicator, I can be an academic, I can be someone who 1666 01:40:14,460 --> 01:40:17,550 just wants to ping pong with somebody else. Why is 1667 01:40:17,550 --> 01:40:20,880 everything, everything on the internet according to the 1668 01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:24,990 President, and all the morons, and retards who run this 1669 01:40:24,990 --> 01:40:29,550 country, including Valerie, f you biatch Jarrett, why is 1670 01:40:29,550 --> 01:40:33,000 everything and consumer? Americans are making their 1671 01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:35,880 voices heard, and standing up for the principles that make the 1672 01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:39,120 internet a powerful force for change? As long as I'm 1673 01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:42,060 President, that's what I'll be fighting for to know. Great. 1674 01:40:42,420 --> 01:40:46,560 You by the way, my wife bitches about the term consumer. Well, 1675 01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,930 she does. He's right. And she actually documented went from 1676 01:40:48,930 --> 01:40:52,530 citizen to something there's like about 10 terms for the 1677 01:40:52,530 --> 01:40:55,710 public, the public. You know, there's a bunch of things that 1678 01:40:55,710 --> 01:40:59,220 became only recently the consumer as though Yeah, all 1679 01:40:59,220 --> 01:41:01,860 that it is a complaint is I mean, this consumer, it's 1680 01:41:01,860 --> 01:41:04,890 assuming that all we're good, all the good, we are just 1681 01:41:04,890 --> 01:41:09,060 consuming crap off of Amazon or to buy, you know, movies from 1682 01:41:09,060 --> 01:41:12,090 Netflix. And by the way, Tom Wheeler, the chairman, was 1683 01:41:12,090 --> 01:41:16,500 appointed by President Barack Obama. How does that make you 1684 01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:21,720 independent? Oh, no, like I'm voting for the guy I'm not 1685 01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:22,650 voting him in. 1686 01:41:23,430 --> 01:41:26,850 And I will read from you for to you from his from the 1687 01:41:26,850 --> 01:41:30,180 President's plan. And he says, once again, the FCC is an 1688 01:41:30,180 --> 01:41:32,760 independent agency. Ultimately, this decision is there as alone. 1689 01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:41,610 True. However, the FCC can force urge manipulate pressure 1690 01:41:41,610 --> 01:41:49,890 Congress into passing laws for this now. I want to so the FCC 1691 01:41:49,890 --> 01:41:52,320 should create a new set of rules protecting net neutrality and 1692 01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:55,230 ensuring that neither the cable company nor the phone company 1693 01:41:55,230 --> 01:41:58,620 will be able to act as a gatekeeper restricting what you 1694 01:41:58,620 --> 01:42:02,460 can do or see online. The rules I have asked what have they done 1695 01:42:02,460 --> 01:42:05,400 that, by the way, I'm just going to continue the rules, I am 1696 01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:09,420 asking for our simple common sense steps that reflect reflect 1697 01:42:09,420 --> 01:42:13,470 the internet and you and I that reflect the internet you and I 1698 01:42:13,470 --> 01:42:18,480 use every day, and that some ISPs already observe these 1699 01:42:18,510 --> 01:42:23,220 bright line rules include Ooh, right. And there's a hyphens 1700 01:42:23,220 --> 01:42:27,990 hyphenated. Now, again, the first thing he says here is that 1701 01:42:28,650 --> 01:42:33,960 no company will be able to act as a gatekeeper restricting what 1702 01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:36,330 you can do or see online. 1703 01:42:37,050 --> 01:42:38,940 Who does that? Let 1704 01:42:38,940 --> 01:42:47,370 me continue. No company can be act and act as a gatekeeper. The 1705 01:42:47,370 --> 01:42:51,000 first rule the president proposes is no blocking. If a 1706 01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:56,820 consumer requests access to a website or service and the 1707 01:42:56,820 --> 01:43:03,210 content is legal, your ISP should not be permitted to block 1708 01:43:03,210 --> 01:43:08,700 it. That way, every player not just those commercially 1709 01:43:08,700 --> 01:43:14,100 affiliated with an ISP gets a fair shot at your business, you 1710 01:43:14,100 --> 01:43:20,970 lowly, moronic college surfing consumer now. Not. So of course, 1711 01:43:21,480 --> 01:43:25,980 I say to Eric to constitutional lawyers. Do you think Eric that 1712 01:43:26,190 --> 01:43:31,530 under this WikiLeaks publications would be considered 1713 01:43:31,530 --> 01:43:37,890 legal? He says no. How about Snowden documents? would these 1714 01:43:37,890 --> 01:43:43,530 be considered illegal? He says no. Now I throw this out by 1715 01:43:43,530 --> 01:43:48,150 chance in a discussion forum. And I say who and what is going 1716 01:43:48,150 --> 01:43:52,620 to be deemed as illegal content hate speech, bullying, there are 1717 01:43:52,620 --> 01:43:56,160 already laws against hate speech in California. So that will not 1718 01:43:56,160 --> 01:44:00,240 be that would be illegal content and therefore should be blocked. 1719 01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:04,950 So let me just read one response. And which I think is 1720 01:44:04,980 --> 01:44:10,920 it's actually a well balanced response. But it's, I think this 1721 01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:13,800 is what we're going to be dealing with. And it comes back 1722 01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:17,220 to the question you kept asking me, where's this number four. So 1723 01:44:17,250 --> 01:44:22,470 this person kts says, Let me get this right. You believe an ISP 1724 01:44:22,470 --> 01:44:24,990 shouldn't be able to block your content whenever they want, 1725 01:44:24,990 --> 01:44:27,090 whether it's legal or not, that's the position you're 1726 01:44:27,090 --> 01:44:30,240 taking that the ISP can block whatever they want from you the 1727 01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:33,300 subscriber for whatever reason they want is that okay with you, 1728 01:44:33,540 --> 01:44:35,940 you're all hung up on who will decide what is legal and 1729 01:44:35,940 --> 01:44:39,150 illegal, that is already in place. Child pornography is 1730 01:44:39,180 --> 01:44:42,150 illegal has been for a while for good reason, and will land you 1731 01:44:42,150 --> 01:44:44,970 in jail today without the new law. There are lots of other 1732 01:44:44,970 --> 01:44:49,350 illegal content types, that does not change with the law. We what 1733 01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:54,150 the proposal does change that if the content is legal, then the 1734 01:44:54,150 --> 01:44:58,260 ISP will not be allowed to block you from getting it. Why do you 1735 01:44:58,260 --> 01:45:02,370 want the ISP to retain what they Do today block legal content 1736 01:45:02,370 --> 01:45:09,180 from you, however they want to? Why would you want this? Wow, 1737 01:45:09,210 --> 01:45:12,240 that's a good, I must say I have no answer. 1738 01:45:13,139 --> 01:45:18,599 There's no answer for it. It's an illogical argument assumes 1739 01:45:18,599 --> 01:45:21,839 that there's assumptions being made in that within the 1740 01:45:21,839 --> 01:45:24,509 arguments like Oh, Riley, when he when I played that clip 1741 01:45:24,509 --> 01:45:27,269 earlier, where he makes assumptions. There's assumptions 1742 01:45:27,269 --> 01:45:31,439 that this is going on. I mean, give me an example of where 1743 01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:34,829 they're blocking legal content or any content for that matter. 1744 01:45:34,889 --> 01:45:37,919 They don't block the porn sites, they don't block the child porn. 1745 01:45:38,219 --> 01:45:40,559 They let you do you want to go get it, go get it and then get 1746 01:45:40,559 --> 01:45:43,079 arrested. And he'd like he said, people do get arrested. They 1747 01:45:43,079 --> 01:45:45,059 just collect it. And the next thing you know, they're in 1748 01:45:45,059 --> 01:45:45,509 court. 1749 01:45:45,570 --> 01:45:49,500 What's worse, I will submit to you. Now, this is the 1750 01:45:49,500 --> 01:45:53,220 President's proposal. All the proposals we've seen have not 1751 01:45:53,220 --> 01:45:56,220 used the word illegal. They've used the word lawful, then 1752 01:45:56,220 --> 01:45:59,670 they've specifically unlawful unlawful content and, quote, 1753 01:45:59,820 --> 01:46:01,650 unlawful network 1754 01:46:02,159 --> 01:46:05,429 traffic. And BitTorrent ah, 1755 01:46:05,729 --> 01:46:08,669 I figured it out. Okay, encryption. 1756 01:46:09,389 --> 01:46:11,399 All right. Of course, they've been trying to get rid of 1757 01:46:11,399 --> 01:46:15,359 encryption forever. Nice. Watch. It'll, that's what it's going to 1758 01:46:15,359 --> 01:46:18,779 do time today. You got two points. You know, you got none. 1759 01:46:19,769 --> 01:46:22,769 What do you mean you haven't you? You've done great with 1760 01:46:22,829 --> 01:46:25,439 China, and put the harmonica 1761 01:46:25,469 --> 01:46:27,449 do something. Yeah, but it's not. That's not me. That's 1762 01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:31,259 anyone could have done. Gambit. That's great. Because that's 1763 01:46:31,259 --> 01:46:36,029 exactly what they've been the FBI in particular. boning about 1764 01:46:36,029 --> 01:46:39,929 you, oh, you know, we can go into the phones. We can do this. 1765 01:46:39,929 --> 01:46:42,479 We can't do that. If we don't have access to it. Encryption is 1766 01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:47,639 bad. Yeah, no, exactly. Right. You're right. All all content 1767 01:46:47,639 --> 01:46:48,299 has to be sorry, 1768 01:46:48,300 --> 01:46:50,010 what did you say? What did you say? I didn't hear it. What did 1769 01:46:50,010 --> 01:46:52,530 you say? I said is bad. You said I was right. 1770 01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:56,430 I thought I forgot. I can't remember one minute to that. 1771 01:46:56,430 --> 01:46:56,580 Now. 1772 01:46:56,580 --> 01:47:00,480 That is the number one proposal from the President. Number two, 1773 01:47:00,870 --> 01:47:06,180 no throttling. Nor should ISPs be me. 1774 01:47:06,480 --> 01:47:10,020 rattling throttling thing? I believe, you know, this, 1775 01:47:10,020 --> 01:47:11,910 let me read let me read let me read it, then you can respond. 1776 01:47:12,210 --> 01:47:16,440 Nor should ISPs be able to intentionally slow down some 1777 01:47:16,440 --> 01:47:21,000 content or speed up others through a process often called 1778 01:47:21,030 --> 01:47:25,230 throttling. Based on the type of service or your ISPs 1779 01:47:25,230 --> 01:47:27,390 preferences. Go. 1780 01:47:27,870 --> 01:47:30,030 You should do that voice more often. Yes, I shall. 1781 01:47:31,440 --> 01:47:33,420 Well, did you want to respond to the throat? I 1782 01:47:33,420 --> 01:47:39,690 got things to say, oh, first of all, are they doing this now? I 1783 01:47:39,690 --> 01:47:40,470 don't know. Well, 1784 01:47:40,500 --> 01:47:46,050 well, yes. This is the this is the what started it was the 1785 01:47:46,050 --> 01:47:50,040 Netflix throttling. And the buffering which of course, got 1786 01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:53,130 everybody all up in arms, because holy crap, I can't see 1787 01:47:53,130 --> 01:47:54,210 House of Cards. 1788 01:47:54,270 --> 01:47:57,270 And here's the here's the thing about that. And they they they 1789 01:47:57,270 --> 01:47:59,460 bought a peering agreement, because they wouldn't use let's 1790 01:47:59,460 --> 01:48:01,710 go back. We've talked about this before, I'll talk about it 1791 01:48:01,710 --> 01:48:06,420 again. Netflix has these appliances that you that all the 1792 01:48:06,420 --> 01:48:09,630 ISPs get for free, and you put them on your server on your 1793 01:48:09,660 --> 01:48:13,830 system at the home office. And now you get to direct access to 1794 01:48:13,830 --> 01:48:17,040 the most popular stuff, I think 100 terabytes where the movies, 1795 01:48:17,070 --> 01:48:18,960 I just want you to know that when we started this 1796 01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:22,710 conversation, this exact moment our stream started, got 1797 01:48:22,710 --> 01:48:23,310 interrupted. 1798 01:48:24,900 --> 01:48:29,850 Yeah, by coincidence, it was on Comcast, Comcast is just crappy 1799 01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:33,270 that me, let's get to that. That's beside the point. So they 1800 01:48:33,270 --> 01:48:36,180 have these appliances. Now, the way net neutrality works, the 1801 01:48:36,180 --> 01:48:38,340 way I read it, the way they're talking about this, those 1802 01:48:38,340 --> 01:48:42,750 appliances have got to go, you can't have those that's unfair, 1803 01:48:42,870 --> 01:48:47,310 you have to have everything brought in across the pipe from 1804 01:48:47,310 --> 01:48:50,490 Netflix Central, and then then fed out, which will mean the 1805 01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:53,400 service of you think Netflix was bad. This would be terrible, 1806 01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:56,070 because now it's good. It's safe, because if you have to go 1807 01:48:56,070 --> 01:48:59,670 to Vudu to get their movies, and then bring them in and then send 1808 01:48:59,670 --> 01:49:02,700 them out to the to the client, you have to do the same thing 1809 01:49:02,700 --> 01:49:06,270 with Netflix, you can't have the Netflix box sitting there feed 1810 01:49:06,270 --> 01:49:10,170 and stuff out. Comcast refused to use these boxes. In fact, 1811 01:49:10,170 --> 01:49:14,640 Comcast was more net neutral at that point than anybody else. 1812 01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:16,920 And then they did a peering agreement, then it became less 1813 01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:19,350 net net neutral. And that got everybody bent out of shape 1814 01:49:19,410 --> 01:49:22,140 because of the peering agreement. I guess everybody 1815 01:49:22,140 --> 01:49:25,650 wanted Comcast to use the Netflix appliances, but they 1816 01:49:25,650 --> 01:49:28,650 didn't do that. And they'd have to have 1000s and 1000s of them 1817 01:49:28,650 --> 01:49:31,530 to make it work. Right. But that's beside the point. This 1818 01:49:31,530 --> 01:49:34,500 whole thing is completely misunderstood. It's a scam. It's 1819 01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:37,530 talking about throttling and what's going on but 1820 01:49:37,530 --> 01:49:44,250 hold on. I want to jump in for a second. I assert, the entire 1821 01:49:44,250 --> 01:49:50,550 term was only introduced to get to this point of stopping 1822 01:49:50,550 --> 01:49:55,620 encryption stopping free speech. The term net neutrality is non 1823 01:49:55,620 --> 01:50:00,690 existent in the technical layers of the internet. and how it 1824 01:50:00,690 --> 01:50:04,110 works. Just briefly, John Oh, shut up. The peering agreements 1825 01:50:04,110 --> 01:50:08,820 is how the internet grew. And back in the day, if you couldn't 1826 01:50:08,820 --> 01:50:11,250 get appearing agreement, which meant I would send roughly the 1827 01:50:11,250 --> 01:50:14,250 same amount of traffic through through the peer to the peering 1828 01:50:14,250 --> 01:50:17,430 point that you would send to me, that's what no money changed 1829 01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:20,910 hands. If you didn't have that kind of traffic, you would have 1830 01:50:20,910 --> 01:50:24,960 to buy what was known as transit. Okay. And it was all 1831 01:50:24,990 --> 01:50:28,230 you said, okay, yes, it's not neutral. It's never been 1832 01:50:28,230 --> 01:50:31,830 neutral. It has nothing to do with border gateway protocols 1833 01:50:31,830 --> 01:50:34,710 and how the internet really works. It the term net 1834 01:50:34,710 --> 01:50:39,600 neutrality, made up by some professor is bullshit. 1835 01:50:39,750 --> 01:50:42,330 No, he actually no, the guy who dreamed up the term is 1836 01:50:42,330 --> 01:50:45,570 documented, and he now reneged on it. 1837 01:50:45,900 --> 01:50:49,500 But it doesn't matter. It's never been, you just said, I'm 1838 01:50:49,500 --> 01:50:50,040 just saying. 1839 01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:54,000 I didn't. I'm just saying I said so. So Wow. Okay, right. 1840 01:50:54,210 --> 01:51:00,450 Net neutrality has never existed in the network. It's never been 1841 01:51:00,450 --> 01:51:03,570 there, the net with the internet was not built on net neutrality. 1842 01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:08,580 It was built on a bunch of crazy networks strung together. And it 1843 01:51:08,580 --> 01:51:12,870 expanded through peering. It was never just a lie. The President 1844 01:51:12,870 --> 01:51:13,650 is nearby, 1845 01:51:13,950 --> 01:51:15,360 a way to save money. 1846 01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:20,040 And in fact, the internet when it's first started, if you said, 1847 01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:23,100 Hey, I'm a consumer looking to buy something, people would yell 1848 01:51:23,100 --> 01:51:27,210 at you and kick you off. I guess it's true. I haven't forgotten 1849 01:51:27,210 --> 01:51:27,480 that 1850 01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:31,590 original network was running through these big giant 1851 01:51:31,860 --> 01:51:34,590 government run pure and university University 1852 01:51:34,620 --> 01:51:35,700 universities. 1853 01:51:35,820 --> 01:51:38,580 And then it turned out that caught there was carriage costs, 1854 01:51:38,580 --> 01:51:41,190 because it cost so much money to go through some of these, these 1855 01:51:41,310 --> 01:51:44,340 giant pipes. And, and people said, well, you know, what, if 1856 01:51:44,370 --> 01:51:47,250 you and I hook up together, because half of my traffic is 1857 01:51:47,250 --> 01:51:49,800 going to your people, and your traffic is coming to me, we 1858 01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:52,470 don't have to go through this roundabout thing, and we just 1859 01:51:52,470 --> 01:51:54,540 talked to each other. Okay, we'll sign that. Then they 1860 01:51:54,540 --> 01:51:57,420 signed off on and that's and then that hearing room grew. And 1861 01:51:57,420 --> 01:52:01,980 then somebody got the wise idea, Comcast, and others, Time Warner 1862 01:52:01,980 --> 01:52:05,580 said, you know, what we can do is we can have cable modems. And 1863 01:52:05,580 --> 01:52:08,040 then we can buy backbones, and then we can put these little 1864 01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:11,880 guys out of business. And now we have these giant networks that 1865 01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:13,200 couldn't be brought down by 1866 01:52:13,830 --> 01:52:18,510 I want to interject not entirely true. And this goes back to the 1867 01:52:18,510 --> 01:52:23,460 level three in the earlier days of where the guys who had the 1868 01:52:25,590 --> 01:52:30,480 Metropole metropolitan fiber, they bought up and the smaller 1869 01:52:30,480 --> 01:52:35,160 guys all sold out, did Jack's and all these guys who had 1870 01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:38,250 little networks, they would fuck it, let's get rich to sell out. 1871 01:52:38,250 --> 01:52:41,370 So that's not entirely true that the big guys were evil. This was 1872 01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:44,370 a very typical capitalistic monopolistic way 1873 01:52:44,370 --> 01:52:47,400 of saying they were evil. I never use the word evil I want 1874 01:52:47,430 --> 01:52:50,040 it could come across as that people talk about the evil 1875 01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:51,210 Comcast or the evil. 1876 01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:54,270 Comcast can't get his act together with my connection, I'm 1877 01:52:54,270 --> 01:52:54,450 going to 1878 01:52:54,450 --> 01:52:57,000 be well think about this evil about that. Sure. 1879 01:52:58,050 --> 01:53:01,380 My connection on Comcast and I am I'm convinced of this. And 1880 01:53:01,380 --> 01:53:04,350 I've actually discussed this on DHL unplugged, I'll discuss it 1881 01:53:04,350 --> 01:53:07,680 again. I believe that Comcast, once they set up business, 1882 01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:11,190 Comcast, they shape their traffic and send all the 1883 01:53:11,190 --> 01:53:14,610 bandwidth to the businesses during the day, of course, and 1884 01:53:14,610 --> 01:53:17,700 then at five o'clock, when the businesses are shutting down, 1885 01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:21,450 boom, it goes back to the users and and which is the consumers 1886 01:53:21,450 --> 01:53:24,780 you mean Can they come the consumers you I still stick with 1887 01:53:24,780 --> 01:53:30,750 the word now not generations ago consumer. So the users get there 1888 01:53:30,780 --> 01:53:35,010 because I here's my my bandwidth, about 10 o'clock in 1889 01:53:35,010 --> 01:53:35,070 the 1890 01:53:35,070 --> 01:53:38,010 morning, you somehow you turn this net neutrality conversation 1891 01:53:38,010 --> 01:53:40,530 into your own personal vendetta against Comcast, 1892 01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:43,710 yeah, okay, two megabits per second throughout the day, 1893 01:53:43,710 --> 01:53:48,930 sometimes 500k Like round just before lunch it off that hill, 1894 01:53:49,650 --> 01:53:54,030 and there's a bunch of slowdowns it taken for two megabits fight 1895 01:53:54,030 --> 01:53:57,480 and this is gray out of bounds with what they're promising in 1896 01:53:57,480 --> 01:54:00,660 their advertising. And I'm down like this. Oh, it must be your 1897 01:54:00,660 --> 01:54:03,240 browser. Oh, it must be the wireless. Oh, it must be this 1898 01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:07,230 must be that these are these great suits. experts out there 1899 01:54:07,230 --> 01:54:09,330 telling me what's going on five o'clock. 1900 01:54:09,660 --> 01:54:13,470 John, you we know that you're on shared bandwidth. That is not 1901 01:54:13,530 --> 01:54:16,410 that is the that is just a shitty ISP that has nothing to 1902 01:54:16,410 --> 01:54:17,820 do with net neutrality. 1903 01:54:18,330 --> 01:54:24,510 Five o'clock, boom. 70 megabits per second. Midnight's 70 1904 01:54:24,510 --> 01:54:27,660 megabits per second, the whole thing is 70 megabits per second. 1905 01:54:27,750 --> 01:54:31,200 Then here it goes again, during the day it drops down to two or 1906 01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:37,050 500 500k. If I'm lucky, have two pages won't load videos won't 1907 01:54:37,050 --> 01:54:39,840 work. Nothing works. I can't podcast. We've known that for a 1908 01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:43,170 long time been going on for you. Right. All right. And then 1909 01:54:43,170 --> 01:54:45,390 Comcast as well. We'll send somebody over. 1910 01:54:45,660 --> 01:54:48,060 But you're just an angry consumer. 1911 01:54:48,420 --> 01:54:50,940 Yeah. Well, there you have it. We continue 1912 01:54:51,990 --> 01:54:57,540 increased transparency. The connection between consumers and 1913 01:54:57,540 --> 01:55:04,350 ISPs. I really hate you for saying this. You're not You're 1914 01:55:04,380 --> 01:55:06,840 not You're not You're not. You're the president. Me. I know 1915 01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:12,540 the President. Oh, so he's the connection between consumers and 1916 01:55:12,540 --> 01:55:15,930 the ISPs. We're not producers. We're not academics. We're not 1917 01:55:15,930 --> 01:55:20,310 researchers. We're consumers. I hate you for this. This so 1918 01:55:20,310 --> 01:55:26,430 called last mile. He's not the owner. I know. Yours you living 1919 01:55:26,430 --> 01:55:31,860 in Hello 9093 colleagues. Last, the last mile is not the only 1920 01:55:31,860 --> 01:55:37,110 place some sites might get special treatment. By the way, 1921 01:55:37,110 --> 01:55:44,400 the last mile is completely within the purview of the ISP to 1922 01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:51,270 do whatever the hell they want. So I am also asking the FCC, so 1923 01:55:51,330 --> 01:55:58,590 it says so comma, so yes, so comma. Yes. I am also asking the 1924 01:55:58,590 --> 01:56:03,060 FCC to make full use of the transparency authorities the 1925 01:56:03,060 --> 01:56:07,560 Court recently upheld and if necessary to apply Net 1926 01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:13,200 Neutrality rules, to points of interconnection between the ISPs 1927 01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:18,270 and the rest of the internet, which is peering this is this is 1928 01:56:18,270 --> 01:56:24,150 breaking the system. And the final one, no paid 1929 01:56:24,150 --> 01:56:29,700 prioritization. Simply put colon, no service should be 1930 01:56:29,700 --> 01:56:36,000 stuck in a quote, slow lane, because it does not pay a fee. 1931 01:56:37,230 --> 01:56:40,680 That kind of gatekeeping would undermine the level playing 1932 01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:47,880 field essential to the Internet growth. So comma, no, so comma, 1933 01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:54,150 as I have before comma, I am asking for an explicit ban on 1934 01:56:54,150 --> 01:56:58,650 paid prioritization and any other restriction that has a 1935 01:56:58,650 --> 01:56:59,940 similar effect. 1936 01:57:01,770 --> 01:57:04,470 Well, it looks like Comcast gonna have to cut off Netflix 1937 01:57:04,470 --> 01:57:05,790 with that peering arrangement. 1938 01:57:06,990 --> 01:57:10,650 Now Associated Press went deeper. This is this is just the 1939 01:57:10,650 --> 01:57:19,380 the little blurb II thing that the White House put out. And we 1940 01:57:19,380 --> 01:57:26,940 have here is a common Who is this talking on Monday Obama 1941 01:57:26,940 --> 01:57:29,880 wade into the fray get this Associated Press gave a major 1942 01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:33,390 boost to interactive activist but activists. I guess we're not 1943 01:57:33,390 --> 01:57:36,510 into the activist since we don't believe in it, saying the FCC 1944 01:57:36,510 --> 01:57:38,910 should explicitly banned any paid prioritization on the 1945 01:57:38,910 --> 01:57:43,050 internet. Obama also suggested the FCC reclassify consumer 1946 01:57:43,050 --> 01:57:46,470 broadband as a public utility under the 1934 communications 1947 01:57:46,470 --> 01:57:49,320 act. So there's no legal ambiguity that would mean title 1948 01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:54,240 to a quote, It is common sense the same philosophy should guide 1949 01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:57,120 any servers that is based on the transmission of information, 1950 01:57:57,330 --> 01:58:00,600 whether a phone call or a packet of data. He doesn't understand 1951 01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:05,610 how this works. Pat, your packets don't go in one stream. 1952 01:58:05,910 --> 01:58:06,780 It's a packet of data. 1953 01:58:08,730 --> 01:58:10,350 I think you made your point about what he doesn't know what 1954 01:58:10,350 --> 01:58:12,540 he's talking about. But let's continue with the read the read. 1955 01:58:12,570 --> 01:58:17,610 Yeah, well, the read I wanted to get to net neutrality is the 1956 01:58:17,610 --> 01:58:23,610 idea. Here it is. Now, who is fighting for this? First, this 1957 01:58:23,610 --> 01:58:26,010 tectonic shift and national policy? Should it be adopted? 1958 01:58:26,070 --> 01:58:32,250 FBI would create dev no worse devastating results. This is 1959 01:58:32,250 --> 01:58:34,740 Powell who said this who will chair the FCC during the Bush 1960 01:58:34,740 --> 01:58:39,420 administration, consumer groups and content providers hailed 1961 01:58:39,420 --> 01:58:42,870 Obama's move. These are people who represent us, John, consumer 1962 01:58:42,870 --> 01:58:45,780 groups represent the consumers because that's all we are saying 1963 01:58:46,230 --> 01:58:52,170 Bhama that actually did Halem consumer, pale Obama, consumer 1964 01:58:52,170 --> 01:58:56,700 groups and content providers hailed Obama's move with Netflix 1965 01:58:56,700 --> 01:59:01,770 posting to its Facebook page. How fucking sad is this? I'll 1966 01:59:01,770 --> 01:59:05,400 read that again, with Netflix posting to its Facebook page 1967 01:59:05,460 --> 01:59:08,250 that consumers should pick winners and losers on the 1968 01:59:08,250 --> 01:59:14,190 internet, not broadband gatekeepers. The oh my god, 1969 01:59:14,430 --> 01:59:18,210 okay, net neutrality here. This is associated press from the 1970 01:59:19,170 --> 01:59:24,450 consumer groups who hail Obama. Net Neutrality is the idea that 1971 01:59:24,450 --> 01:59:28,410 Internet Service Providers shouldn't block slow or 1972 01:59:28,410 --> 01:59:33,000 manipulate data moving across its networks. As long as content 1973 01:59:33,030 --> 01:59:38,460 isn't against the law comma, such as child pornography, or 1974 01:59:38,460 --> 01:59:44,070 pirated music. A file or video posted on one site will load 1975 01:59:44,070 --> 01:59:48,480 generally at the same speed as a similarly sized file or video on 1976 01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:56,790 another site. Okay. This is bullshit. It's not that's not 1977 01:59:56,790 --> 02:00:02,010 true. There could be a different routes multiple hops will not 1978 02:00:02,010 --> 02:00:04,170 the will. And that's what that to say the general Yeah, 1979 02:00:04,500 --> 02:00:07,020 beating up what we already know. I think it would I think the 1980 02:00:07,020 --> 02:00:09,150 point you made about the encryption and then the 1981 02:00:09,150 --> 02:00:11,970 lawfulness unlawfulness is what this is really all about. 1982 02:00:12,120 --> 02:00:16,110 arguing the technology wishes you keep drifting into is 1983 02:00:16,110 --> 02:00:17,100 fruitless. 1984 02:00:17,580 --> 02:00:20,010 I just thought about I'm not arguing the technology. I'm 1985 02:00:20,010 --> 02:00:22,050 correcting the yes, the 1986 02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:25,110 fruitless. Fruitless. Okay. 1987 02:00:25,500 --> 02:00:28,320 Well, apparently just looking from the comments, it's 1988 02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:31,980 fruitless to argue at all because clearly, I'm just all in 1989 02:00:31,980 --> 02:00:36,030 on the big the big guys and I love Comcast and I'm paying by 1990 02:00:37,530 --> 02:00:41,340 Friday, right, and I dream and masturbate. I was Rick. I'm 1991 02:00:41,340 --> 02:00:41,670 sorry. 1992 02:00:41,910 --> 02:00:43,890 You the Koch brothers. Dude. 1993 02:00:44,340 --> 02:00:47,130 That's, I'm waiting. I'm waiting for that. It's 1994 02:00:47,130 --> 02:00:49,590 big oil. Yeah, that's talking. 1995 02:00:49,620 --> 02:00:54,480 But then Ted Cruz is the biggest boob moron douche bag and I'll 1996 02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:55,800 say the retard 1997 02:00:55,890 --> 02:00:59,940 is this news. Ted Cruz. You've hated Ted Cruz from the 1998 02:00:59,940 --> 02:01:01,530 beginning of the show. No, hit it. I've 1999 02:01:01,530 --> 02:01:05,280 never hated him. Ted Cruz clip No, I don't have no it's a quote 2000 02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:10,020 no clip. Net Neutrality is Obama care for the internet? You 2001 02:01:10,020 --> 02:01:14,850 dickhead. You stupid, stupid, stupid. It's this stupid. 2002 02:01:15,870 --> 02:01:21,840 Stupid, stupid, stupid man. With your stupid Goldman Sachs tax 2003 02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:25,230 Stupid, stupid wife. You stupid people. 2004 02:01:25,380 --> 02:01:27,180 Okay, I think you made your point. 2005 02:01:27,210 --> 02:01:28,350 I'm done. I'm done. It 2006 02:01:28,350 --> 02:01:29,880 was BS. You depressed? 2007 02:01:30,390 --> 02:01:35,700 Yes. Because we're gonna I need to figure out a career. In five 2008 02:01:35,700 --> 02:01:37,800 years, I'll have no job. Yours. Oh, 2009 02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:40,200 yeah, within five. Once this takes place. And of course, 2010 02:01:40,200 --> 02:01:44,160 everyone's all in on it. I said about the number of people that 2011 02:01:44,160 --> 02:01:48,510 you see through it, I can count on one hand, and you only have 2012 02:01:48,510 --> 02:01:50,640 three. I'm sure a lot of our listeners are in agreement. But 2013 02:01:50,640 --> 02:01:52,800 most of them probably still don't know what they're talking 2014 02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:57,060 about. And they made out may or may not care. But but the people 2015 02:01:57,060 --> 02:02:01,050 I know that sincerely understand that this is a lead in to a 2016 02:02:01,050 --> 02:02:03,900 disaster letting the government run the internet, which is what 2017 02:02:03,930 --> 02:02:05,640 of course the government wants to do and 2018 02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:07,500 to outlaw encryption. 2019 02:02:07,620 --> 02:02:11,700 And what's great is that, to me, is the way they've sold it, 2020 02:02:11,700 --> 02:02:15,270 which is very much like the I don't want to equate it with 2021 02:02:15,270 --> 02:02:19,410 global warming. But they've sold it as a very nice at the 2022 02:02:19,410 --> 02:02:23,310 narrative is dynamite. And they've sold everybody on it. 2023 02:02:23,550 --> 02:02:28,050 And the term works so well as it is. And you'd listen to these 2024 02:02:28,050 --> 02:02:31,710 guys on these podcasts. And they go on and on about it. Because 2025 02:02:31,710 --> 02:02:34,410 if if they don't pass that neutrality, they're out of 2026 02:02:34,410 --> 02:02:38,430 business somehow. That works. Yes. What's changing? I mean, 2027 02:02:38,430 --> 02:02:41,190 what if they didn't, if we just dropped the whole argument 2028 02:02:41,190 --> 02:02:45,480 dropped the idea what's going to change is Comcast all of a 2029 02:02:45,480 --> 02:02:48,960 sudden going to say, you know, I don't like that guy's podcast, 2030 02:02:48,990 --> 02:02:52,950 that's that's throttling. I don't see that they care. That 2031 02:02:53,010 --> 02:02:54,240 would be the point. 2032 02:02:54,750 --> 02:02:57,480 No, because people don't care about pod. Don't care about 2033 02:02:57,480 --> 02:02:58,470 Netflix wants 2034 02:02:58,470 --> 02:03:01,470 to do this. The government wants to throttle stuff. The 2035 02:03:01,470 --> 02:03:04,890 government wants to end encryption. I think he doesn't 2036 02:03:04,890 --> 02:03:07,440 care. As far as they're concerned. Go ahead and download 2037 02:03:07,440 --> 02:03:10,200 all the music you want. Just make sure you pay are your bill. 2038 02:03:11,280 --> 02:03:14,490 Yeah. They don't care about downloading music. It's only 2039 02:03:14,490 --> 02:03:17,820 because the government forces them to care about it. There's 2040 02:03:18,060 --> 02:03:20,880 their concern is more work. Why would they put themselves 2041 02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:24,180 through doing more work? Oh, let's find a couple of 2042 02:03:24,180 --> 02:03:27,270 objectionable podcasts and throttle them. Let's throttle 2043 02:03:27,270 --> 02:03:29,910 them. Let's throttle them. That's not going to do this. 2044 02:03:29,910 --> 02:03:33,000 Why? Why would they do that? Have you care? 2045 02:03:33,030 --> 02:03:35,070 Have you cast your Koch brothers check yet? 2046 02:03:36,330 --> 02:03:42,420 I get it right here. 100,000 million dollars. Look, brothers 2047 02:03:42,420 --> 02:03:44,370 don't even listen to our show. I've, 2048 02:03:44,550 --> 02:03:48,630 I've put an intro to distributed hash tables under the NA tech 2049 02:03:48,630 --> 02:03:50,820 heading in the show notes. People should read that that's 2050 02:03:50,820 --> 02:03:56,250 where we're headed. That's the only way to be able to maybe get 2051 02:03:56,250 --> 02:03:57,180 the seven years. 2052 02:03:58,350 --> 02:04:01,050 You know what I think is great as the way they've sold this 2053 02:04:01,050 --> 02:04:04,950 because you know the FCC is they see the future. The FCC, the 2054 02:04:04,950 --> 02:04:08,670 broadcasting thing is a slow dying business is not dying 2055 02:04:08,670 --> 02:04:11,370 tomorrow. It's not dying in 10 years, but it's dying. There's 2056 02:04:11,370 --> 02:04:14,610 going to be more people broadcasting, like we're doing 2057 02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:17,550 over the internet, using the internet as a transport vehicle, 2058 02:04:17,670 --> 02:04:21,210 because it's cheaper, is more versatile that goes all over the 2059 02:04:21,210 --> 02:04:24,390 world is you can't do that with a radio transmitter. It's not 2060 02:04:24,390 --> 02:04:27,240 possible and it costs a lot of money to run those things. The 2061 02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:30,420 FCC looks at this and say, well, we got to regulate the damned 2062 02:04:30,420 --> 02:04:33,480 radio and television and we get the talent that they get to 2063 02:04:33,480 --> 02:04:38,280 $350,000 fine for showing somebody's nipple and or cussing 2064 02:04:38,280 --> 02:04:41,520 once or twice or getting let's get rid of Howard Stern let me 2065 02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:41,700 give 2066 02:04:41,700 --> 02:04:47,250 you let me give you a better analogy. I am a FCC licensed 2067 02:04:47,730 --> 02:04:50,970 amateur radio operator by there's many spectrum that I may 2068 02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:58,350 operate in up to 1500 watts. I can't say fuck. I can't sell 2069 02:04:58,350 --> 02:05:02,790 something. I can't Broadcast. I can no I can't do it. There's no 2070 02:05:02,790 --> 02:05:08,160 free speech on ham radio? No. Because the FCC licenses it. 2071 02:05:08,370 --> 02:05:11,160 Right. So hello. And we 2072 02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:14,460 know for a fact if you start looking into the record, they've 2073 02:05:14,460 --> 02:05:18,450 been trying to get their little mitts around cable TV. Yeah, 2074 02:05:18,510 --> 02:05:21,480 yeah. Oh, is there some way we could get a hold of cable TV so 2075 02:05:21,480 --> 02:05:24,300 we could regulate it. And then of course, the real goal here is 2076 02:05:24,300 --> 02:05:26,250 this charge for licenses you have to pay. It's 2077 02:05:26,250 --> 02:05:28,350 very important what you're saying I need to stop you. This 2078 02:05:28,350 --> 02:05:34,710 is really important. Cable TV is not regulated by the FCC. And 2079 02:05:34,710 --> 02:05:40,590 this was always the problem. The cable companies and the cable 2080 02:05:40,590 --> 02:05:43,080 company used to be little guys who thought they were broadcast 2081 02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:46,590 networks. And they know, man, the Cable Ace awards. I had to 2082 02:05:46,830 --> 02:05:50,880 schmooze with their ugly as wives for years at MTV, because 2083 02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:56,100 they were the gatekeepers. They would they determined if MTV was 2084 02:05:56,100 --> 02:06:00,000 in the standard basic package or if it was a premium service. FCC 2085 02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:04,860 has no regulation, you say this is what is this is why 2086 02:06:05,670 --> 02:06:10,440 classifying it as a title to service with all video moving 2087 02:06:10,440 --> 02:06:15,600 slowly to Internet Protocol. This is when they when they do 2088 02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:21,060 that, then they actually have a real grip on the cable company 2089 02:06:21,060 --> 02:06:24,210 as you say. It's this is what they've been right. What is it? 2090 02:06:24,210 --> 02:06:28,110 Not 30 years they've been trying to do this? Yes. Do you need old 2091 02:06:28,110 --> 02:06:30,600 guys like us to be able to look into the history and tell you 2092 02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:31,200 this? People 2093 02:06:31,680 --> 02:06:33,960 have been trying to do this forever, and they've been 2094 02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:38,910 unsuccessful? Now this is their backdoor. This is a backdoor 2095 02:06:38,910 --> 02:06:42,420 methodology to get a hold of all that stuff. That cable, all the 2096 02:06:42,420 --> 02:06:45,330 cable programming. Because there's a lot of subversive 2097 02:06:45,330 --> 02:06:48,990 stuff on cable TV, there's a lot of cussing, there's nudity, 2098 02:06:49,140 --> 02:06:51,930 there's all these things that we don't want because some kid 2099 02:06:51,930 --> 02:06:56,250 might see it, you know, and the kid in today's world by virtue 2100 02:06:56,250 --> 02:06:58,950 of the fact that they see a lot of nudity they go what so what? 2101 02:06:59,220 --> 02:07:02,400 Oh, there's a tip, big deal. I mean, in Europe, that's been you 2102 02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:05,190 know, the standard thing even on broadcasting there's tickets 2103 02:07:05,190 --> 02:07:07,770 there all over the place. But you know, oh, God, you know, 2104 02:07:07,770 --> 02:07:11,190 let's just fight. It's finally because the FCC likes to find 2105 02:07:11,190 --> 02:07:14,280 these things that are a bunch of stooges that are on the FCC. 2106 02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:16,710 They're always a bunch of idiots. If you listen, go listen 2107 02:07:16,710 --> 02:07:19,440 to some of their events that they have some of their meeting 2108 02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:23,250 some of their questions and answers are horrible. Yeah, this 2109 02:07:23,250 --> 02:07:25,500 is what this is what they're up to in the net neutrality thing. 2110 02:07:25,500 --> 02:07:30,270 They must be just due to high fiving constantly right now. And 2111 02:07:31,050 --> 02:07:35,160 with the notion that or the fact that the public at large, all 2112 02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:35,910 the podcasts are 2113 02:07:35,970 --> 02:07:42,180 all in all in in their stroking their white pussies with glee, 2114 02:07:43,200 --> 02:07:44,370 as it were. Yeah. 2115 02:07:46,170 --> 02:07:51,240 I will. I will add to that, that this is a very unique American 2116 02:07:51,240 --> 02:07:57,150 problem. In some regard, this is why it's starting here. Because 2117 02:07:58,140 --> 02:08:01,230 and I'm generalizing. So I will preface by saying in general, 2118 02:08:01,770 --> 02:08:09,750 Americans are so hung up over public display of body parts and 2119 02:08:09,750 --> 02:08:14,130 sexuality and breasts. So it's funny Mickey the other day she's 2120 02:08:15,090 --> 02:08:17,820 okay, she's wearing a sweater. So do you like the sweater that 2121 02:08:17,850 --> 02:08:20,790 we I'm very good at this. I do the fashion show thing. I said 2122 02:08:20,790 --> 02:08:24,510 no. Try the other shoes. And I'm good at this. I'm actually I'm 2123 02:08:24,510 --> 02:08:27,060 good at this. I'm sure you are and so she's What do you think 2124 02:08:27,060 --> 02:08:30,240 this sweater says? I love this sweater is really great. Ah, can 2125 02:08:30,240 --> 02:08:35,700 I can take my bra off? Well, what is the bra for is it said 2126 02:08:35,700 --> 02:08:40,260 well to my nipples don't show. I said oh, do you wear a bra when 2127 02:08:40,260 --> 02:08:44,310 you're in Amsterdam says no. Here in America. All the guys 2128 02:08:44,310 --> 02:08:44,460 like 2129 02:08:48,600 --> 02:09:01,260 yes, they do. Obviously what happens? Sad, sad. Do it that's 2130 02:09:01,260 --> 02:09:04,140 just the way it is. And these guys reflect that and then they 2131 02:09:04,140 --> 02:09:08,070 push it and they make sure that you don't have nipple showing or 2132 02:09:08,130 --> 02:09:11,910 anything and that once they get a hold of the internet, there's 2133 02:09:11,910 --> 02:09:17,100 a lot of changes a lot of nipples. Once they once the FCCU 2134 02:09:17,130 --> 02:09:21,000 which is they're headed for once they own the internet as a as a 2135 02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:24,960 regulatory body under this bull crap. Once they're in charge. 2136 02:09:25,140 --> 02:09:29,340 You watch what happens and yeah, it's gonna be bad. 2137 02:09:31,560 --> 02:09:35,490 That's why this video went viral. This is another example. 2138 02:09:35,880 --> 02:09:40,950 Another example from an American perspective. Oh, this is Megan 2139 02:09:40,950 --> 02:09:43,350 Kelly introducing Mike Huckabee, 2140 02:09:43,380 --> 02:09:45,690 Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, who's the host of pocket of 2141 02:09:45,690 --> 02:09:47,700 Huckabee right here on the Fox News Channel. 2142 02:09:51,450 --> 02:09:52,890 She must be find on 2143 02:09:57,930 --> 02:10:01,860 the show, but Joanie didn't no agenda. I imagine all the people 2144 02:10:01,860 --> 02:10:03,870 who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun 2145 02:10:11,099 --> 02:10:13,559 I want to thank a few people. i By the way, we both want to 2146 02:10:13,559 --> 02:10:16,289 thank him, obviously. But I want to say I hope we don't talk 2147 02:10:16,289 --> 02:10:20,069 about net neutrality anymore. I think it's a done deal. We're on 2148 02:10:20,069 --> 02:10:22,409 the outside looking in. And that's just the way it is. I 2149 02:10:22,409 --> 02:10:24,749 don't think beating a dead horse it does. We're not changing 2150 02:10:24,749 --> 02:10:28,619 anybody's mind. We're gonna change anyone's mind. 2151 02:10:28,680 --> 02:10:33,270 Now. Well, can we own the only thing I'd like to do? Maybe I 2152 02:10:33,270 --> 02:10:38,610 just want to somewhere, be in writing. Dear people of Earth 2153 02:10:38,640 --> 02:10:42,000 like, like the Yoko Ono damn people up, I've 2154 02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:45,120 written two or three pieces doing exactly what you suggest, 2155 02:10:45,210 --> 02:10:49,080 which was referred to Twitter guys. Oh, look at this. He said 2156 02:10:49,080 --> 02:10:51,720 this is I agree with him. Yeah, they already agreed with me 2157 02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:55,500 before I wrote it. And you know, yeah, I don't care. Whatever you 2158 02:10:55,500 --> 02:10:58,080 think is bowl crabs. DeVore. I tried to get attention, 2159 02:10:58,110 --> 02:10:58,770 trolling, 2160 02:10:59,219 --> 02:11:02,819 trolling, trolling. And he's the guy that said cable modems would 2161 02:11:02,819 --> 02:11:03,749 never work. 2162 02:11:06,480 --> 02:11:09,270 Sorry, there's always something I said. Sorry. There's that one. 2163 02:11:09,420 --> 02:11:13,470 i Yeah, that's what it leads. They don't work. By the way. The 2164 02:11:13,470 --> 02:11:15,720 way I'm getting my bandwidth is Devin was right. 2165 02:11:18,390 --> 02:11:21,270 By the way, they believe they are no one ever says anything 2166 02:11:21,270 --> 02:11:25,830 about what I used to say. Well, you put it in writing. I did 2167 02:11:25,830 --> 02:11:27,750 lots of interviews, but that doesn't count. 2168 02:11:27,900 --> 02:11:30,870 No, no. You can say anything you want over the it's interesting 2169 02:11:30,870 --> 02:11:35,220 to me that in the broadcast medium, it's like completely set 2170 02:11:35,220 --> 02:11:38,640 aside. It's not even even transcripts. Don't get picked 2171 02:11:38,640 --> 02:11:40,890 up. It's just a different thing than when you write a thoughtful 2172 02:11:40,890 --> 02:11:41,370 essay. 2173 02:11:41,400 --> 02:11:44,520 Okay, well, I'm not going to do that anytime soon. Let's thank 2174 02:11:44,520 --> 02:11:46,500 our producers here who are voting 2175 02:11:46,650 --> 02:11:56,580 Fabrice shumi in Anaheim 12345 favorite number he said the job 2176 02:11:56,580 --> 02:11:59,580 karma really works he got his dream job building race cars for 2177 02:11:59,580 --> 02:12:00,210 a living he 2178 02:12:00,210 --> 02:12:03,330 did you see Yeah, he sent a picture. That picture Oh, 2179 02:12:03,780 --> 02:12:06,300 but he's building race. You know we need it. Why should we even 2180 02:12:06,300 --> 02:12:10,380 be buying cars we should just get we must have enough 2181 02:12:10,380 --> 02:12:12,810 listeners out there that can put together a jalopy that's got a 2182 02:12:12,810 --> 02:12:13,110 pig. 2183 02:12:13,710 --> 02:12:17,010 If someone puts together a jalopy I will drive it 2184 02:12:17,040 --> 02:12:21,690 with a big engine. Like a hot rod with a blower on it on the 2185 02:12:21,690 --> 02:12:23,730 front. Big blower sitting on the top and 2186 02:12:23,730 --> 02:12:27,060 you can put any advertising you want on the side. I will drive 2187 02:12:27,060 --> 02:12:27,360 it. 2188 02:12:27,840 --> 02:12:29,670 I will drive I will do the same. 2189 02:12:29,700 --> 02:12:33,660 I want it not to be able to fit in the garage. I got a parking 2190 02:12:33,660 --> 02:12:37,080 on the street. Yeah, a monster truck. Yeah, I'm 2191 02:12:38,130 --> 02:12:43,140 going to for Michael succow In Belmar New Jersey. 12345. Greg 2192 02:12:43,260 --> 02:12:49,530 Pasmore in Ha ha Salon de Halland hallandale. No, get it 2193 02:12:49,650 --> 02:12:52,530 Hallandale Beach, Florida never heard of that areas. And when 2194 02:12:52,560 --> 02:12:56,700 1199 Brian Williams in Streamwood. Illinois. It was 2195 02:12:56,700 --> 02:13:04,440 always coming in. 7373 73 is the you Brian has 70 threes. I think 2196 02:13:04,440 --> 02:13:08,010 he's a knight. I could be wrong, sir. Jimmy free hollow books. 2197 02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:12,450 6960. Now we did get a few of these. I got a note from Carrie. 2198 02:13:12,450 --> 02:13:17,220 Sian, by the way Oh, started the 6969 thing. She hasn't she 2199 02:13:17,220 --> 02:13:20,400 stopped listening to the show. Now she's back on board. Oh, 2200 02:13:21,270 --> 02:13:23,610 that's all I know. She's been apparently been traveling for 2201 02:13:23,610 --> 02:13:25,410 some reason. And she doesn't explain it very 2202 02:13:25,470 --> 02:13:28,680 well. So you know, it's hard to podcast. I had an idea about 2203 02:13:28,680 --> 02:13:31,950 that, by the way. Remind me after the show. I have another 2204 02:13:31,950 --> 02:13:33,540 one of our great business ideas. 2205 02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:36,750 Okay, let me write this down. That will never execute. No, 2206 02:13:36,750 --> 02:13:38,190 that's what we do. We talk about him, 2207 02:13:38,280 --> 02:13:42,270 but I want to talk about it with you first. And then we can talk 2208 02:13:42,300 --> 02:13:44,370 about how we should then we can forget to talk about it on the 2209 02:13:44,370 --> 02:13:44,910 show. 2210 02:13:45,720 --> 02:13:47,940 Okay, we'll do it. We'll do that. I got it written down in 2211 02:13:47,940 --> 02:13:52,680 the Red Book. Okay, got it. Then we have who's been around he 2212 02:13:52,680 --> 02:13:54,090 wants to play it Bill and Ted six. 2213 02:13:55,230 --> 02:13:57,390 What I don't even know what the jingle looks like. 2214 02:13:57,599 --> 02:14:01,739 It's just 6969 Those guys Yeah, 2215 02:14:01,740 --> 02:14:04,170 no, I'm it's Bill and Ted, but I don't even know 2216 02:14:04,170 --> 02:14:07,590 how to play that jingle. Which makes sense in this little I 2217 02:14:07,590 --> 02:14:08,310 understand, 2218 02:14:08,310 --> 02:14:11,280 but I must have I got it. I gotta get it. I got it. I gotta 2219 02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:19,170 I gotta gotta gotta have it. Oh, here it is. 6969 done. 2220 02:14:19,380 --> 02:14:22,110 That's the one we used to use. And then we stopped using it 2221 02:14:22,110 --> 02:14:27,810 because we did streak ended, sir Jim of Beverly Hills zoo Cal. 2222 02:14:28,980 --> 02:14:33,450 But it says from obviously Beverly Hills. I'd be lost 2223 02:14:33,450 --> 02:14:35,670 without you guys. 60 minutes. He's nicer. Patrick Coble, 2224 02:14:35,670 --> 02:14:41,040 Nashville, Tennessee. 6969. Eric, as Ness in Lawndale, 2225 02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:46,800 California same 6969 John Claude Schmidt, John Claude Schmidt 2226 02:14:46,920 --> 02:14:55,290 Schmid in Costa Mesa, karma to Andre and Kevin. Oscar into Tao 2227 02:14:56,220 --> 02:15:01,530 Oscar Nadal wears this big tennis player 60s He's 91 I 2228 02:15:01,560 --> 02:15:07,230 think we have a Stephen Dallas. Austin, Mexico, Mako, sir. That 2229 02:15:07,230 --> 02:15:08,760 is. Oh, yeah, go ahead. Sorry, 2230 02:15:08,790 --> 02:15:16,110 sir herb of salt salt freak. Sugar Hill GA 6969. Sir James 2231 02:15:17,730 --> 02:15:20,430 applies that to Tom's knighthood. 2232 02:15:20,639 --> 02:15:25,469 Okay? Yeah, Sir James Cates in Virginia Beach Virginia 6969 2233 02:15:25,469 --> 02:15:29,429 Jeremiah Trible tribal tribal tribals gotta be tribal. 2234 02:15:30,569 --> 02:15:35,069 Longview, Texas. Six nice his name Michael Henderson Peachtree 2235 02:15:35,069 --> 02:15:38,159 corners GA. I think that's everywhere in Georgia and that 2236 02:15:38,159 --> 02:15:44,579 closes the 6969 segment now we got club Chad Inman 66 dot 90 2237 02:15:44,579 --> 02:15:46,979 which is a one I kind of encouraged because it's this 2238 02:15:47,009 --> 02:15:50,999 show 669 And that would be right plus angle ease if you read this 2239 02:15:50,999 --> 02:15:56,309 no one other guy came in with that Joshua Thea Dorsen I 2240 02:15:56,609 --> 02:15:58,019 believe is weighed in Hilton 2241 02:15:58,050 --> 02:16:03,390 All right, he's Did you read his note? He says just wanted to let 2242 02:16:03,390 --> 02:16:07,020 you know that no agenda methodology scored me and 88.6 2243 02:16:07,020 --> 02:16:10,380 to one win and Australia's race that stops a nation the 2244 02:16:10,380 --> 02:16:14,520 Melbourne Cup horse race. Not only did the favorite come last 2245 02:16:14,520 --> 02:16:21,180 and die of heart failure, a German a German horse won. So 2246 02:16:21,180 --> 02:16:25,290 that's why sharing some of his winnings with us. We should have 2247 02:16:25,290 --> 02:16:30,210 been in on that one. The favorite horse died. German 2248 02:16:30,210 --> 02:16:34,710 course one V Havana making favorite of horses die. They 2249 02:16:34,710 --> 02:16:37,320 die. They die. Their favorite will die. 2250 02:16:37,740 --> 02:16:41,310 Stacy St. jumpstarted Christopher Davidson in Bella 2251 02:16:41,310 --> 02:16:49,530 Vista, Arkansas. 6660s Stacy St. Armand Kingston, Ontario. 6439. 2252 02:16:49,530 --> 02:16:55,170 Nicole Martini in Stevens stoinis. Probably pronounce that 2253 02:16:55,170 --> 02:16:56,610 Stuyvesant story business. 2254 02:16:58,200 --> 02:17:02,370 Just a one in New Yorker six. Stuyvesant Stuyvesant. Holy 2255 02:17:02,370 --> 02:17:06,540 crap. Can I just interject for one moment? Yeah. You know, even 2256 02:17:06,540 --> 02:17:10,890 though Technology News has is called only about phones, and 2257 02:17:10,890 --> 02:17:14,970 apparently comet landings, and it's just crap. I will say 2258 02:17:14,970 --> 02:17:18,420 looking at this new CNN technology reporter forgetting 2259 02:17:18,420 --> 02:17:20,160 some dynamite looking women do 2260 02:17:20,190 --> 02:17:22,830 you know you're just doing this because I don't get CNN anymore. 2261 02:17:22,830 --> 02:17:23,340 RACHEL 2262 02:17:23,340 --> 02:17:25,890 CRANE. Hello, Rachel. Alright, keep going. 2263 02:17:25,889 --> 02:17:28,139 I'm gonna look around. Let me write his name down RACHEL 2264 02:17:28,139 --> 02:17:28,709 CRANE. 2265 02:17:28,829 --> 02:17:32,009 She may I think she's the I think she's the newest women on 2266 02:17:32,009 --> 02:17:35,099 AlJazeera. Are you waiting to see RACHEL CRANE? She is a 2267 02:17:35,099 --> 02:17:35,819 classic. 2268 02:17:35,820 --> 02:17:38,640 Okay, let's get on with it. My goodness. By the way, there's a 2269 02:17:38,640 --> 02:17:41,640 birthday involved and Nicole Martini. I think we have that 2270 02:17:41,640 --> 02:17:45,540 one lined up Keith Ryan Bloomfield, Connecticut. 5678 2271 02:17:45,540 --> 02:17:52,770 Rad new per tuck to divide 55 Sir J D in San Jose, California. 2272 02:17:52,770 --> 02:17:57,870 5510 went back and forth with him over over my following him 2273 02:17:57,870 --> 02:18:00,810 on Twitter, which I did and then he donated weight he's always 2274 02:18:00,810 --> 02:18:05,130 donating Kevin deal Charlotte, North Carolina, Sir Kevin Payne 2275 02:18:05,130 --> 02:18:09,540 and Chantilly Virginia 5069 and these are all $50 donors which 2276 02:18:09,540 --> 02:18:14,970 include Brandon sev why why? Patricia Worthington in Miami, 2277 02:18:15,330 --> 02:18:19,800 Mike Westerfield Parts Unknown Jakhu but what what? SCIAC what? 2278 02:18:19,830 --> 02:18:23,670 Warjack? I'm guessing North Vancouver, then I would say 2279 02:18:23,669 --> 02:18:28,049 Jacob it would be Jacob, Jakob. Jakob Jacob. I said Jacob. 2280 02:18:28,410 --> 02:18:33,780 And I'd say Jakob, okay. Paul groves in Wangaratta. Victoria, 2281 02:18:33,780 --> 02:18:39,060 Australia Antonio McMullen. Parts Hudson, Paul Vela, in 2282 02:18:39,090 --> 02:18:44,880 Milton Keynes. Alexander should Covey and Moscow. Patrick maqam 2283 02:18:44,880 --> 02:18:50,280 in Long Island City, cherry wensen Langley, Washington and 2284 02:18:50,280 --> 02:18:55,140 finally Vincent K. haymes. in Decatur, Alabama. 2285 02:18:55,139 --> 02:18:58,109 I have a note from Terry. Oh, I 2286 02:18:58,110 --> 02:19:01,140 want to say yeah, Terry wins. It's not really a note. Terry 2287 02:19:01,140 --> 02:19:05,340 wins. I want to sense this check. But the whole envelope is 2288 02:19:05,340 --> 02:19:08,520 some sort of Matt, what do you call when you bend paper? It's 2289 02:19:08,520 --> 02:19:08,940 called. 2290 02:19:11,580 --> 02:19:14,370 Now this the origami? 2291 02:19:14,610 --> 02:19:18,780 Yeah, origami. So she sent this huge origami thing with a with a 2292 02:19:18,780 --> 02:19:22,110 seal on the back. And it's like you take it off and then it's 2293 02:19:22,110 --> 02:19:25,290 like one sheet of paper with a check. And I used that was the 2294 02:19:25,290 --> 02:19:29,190 most dangerous envelope I've ever seen. Okay, it was kind of 2295 02:19:29,190 --> 02:19:32,070 cute though. But it didn't even say anything in there. Vincent 2296 02:19:32,070 --> 02:19:35,310 que haymes. in Decatur, Alabama just said that at 50 bucks. And 2297 02:19:35,310 --> 02:19:42,030 finally last and not least was Shane peed in from parts of his 2298 02:19:42,030 --> 02:19:44,370 axes. I don't know where he's from. It seems like he's from 2299 02:19:44,370 --> 02:19:49,620 Atlanta. And he sent the long note complaining about his wife 2300 02:19:49,980 --> 02:19:55,140 and he's a night and it's also as the oldest daughter's sixth 2301 02:19:55,140 --> 02:19:57,210 birthday do I don't know if that's on the list. No, I'm 2302 02:19:57,210 --> 02:20:02,520 think you're confusing. Is that was that the was that the no 2303 02:20:02,520 --> 02:20:04,860 idea? Right? You're right. He was complaining about his wife 2304 02:20:04,860 --> 02:20:07,650 and it's his daughter's. I don't know. Does she have a name? 2305 02:20:09,150 --> 02:20:11,430 Laney Laney Hold on? I don't think that's on the list. 2306 02:20:11,430 --> 02:20:11,910 Actually. Let 2307 02:20:11,910 --> 02:20:15,780 me yeah, my give my daughter Laney some birthday love. And 2308 02:20:15,780 --> 02:20:16,350 hold on. 2309 02:20:16,560 --> 02:20:23,340 So that's Laney from Shane, daddy shame. 2310 02:20:23,850 --> 02:20:26,430 Yes. And the resolute as to the rest of the note, we're really 2311 02:20:26,430 --> 02:20:31,080 not going to sit here and he was saying that domestic disputes 2312 02:20:31,110 --> 02:20:33,990 he rescinded that, by the way and, you know, I don't follow up 2313 02:20:33,990 --> 02:20:35,460 notes. Yeah. Yeah, 2314 02:20:35,490 --> 02:20:39,810 but he's definitely a complaint to make. It was probably legit. 2315 02:20:39,810 --> 02:20:43,320 Yeah. But no, okay. It made me if you 2316 02:20:47,730 --> 02:20:52,230 are just a horrible, man. That's really bad. That's really bad. 2317 02:20:52,710 --> 02:20:58,770 Well, okay, a light. Light on in on both ends of it. We will be 2318 02:20:58,770 --> 02:21:02,640 doing a show on Sunday. I'll be in New York. So highly 2319 02:21:02,640 --> 02:21:05,460 appreciate anything that we can 2320 02:21:05,730 --> 02:21:08,700 be. Yeah, we're gonna have a show coming up on Sunday. 670. 2321 02:21:08,940 --> 02:21:10,920 So think of us in the meantime, 2322 02:21:10,980 --> 02:21:14,580 RACHEL CRANE joined CNN is the network's newest digital 2323 02:21:14,580 --> 02:21:18,180 correspondent, okay, where she covers Pop Culture and 2324 02:21:18,180 --> 02:21:18,960 Innovation. 2325 02:21:19,289 --> 02:21:22,559 Oh, yeah. She's the everyone's social network. Uh huh. 2326 02:21:22,920 --> 02:21:26,310 In this role, she'll be creating original video content related 2327 02:21:26,310 --> 02:21:32,220 to her beat to run across across CNNs platforms. She comes to us 2328 02:21:32,220 --> 02:21:34,860 from Bloomberg, where she was a technology and innovation 2329 02:21:34,860 --> 02:21:37,980 correspondent who hosted and produced Blum blog, Bloomberg 2330 02:21:37,980 --> 02:21:42,150 brink. A show highlighting cutting edge technology and new 2331 02:21:42,150 --> 02:21:49,650 ideas. Well, good hire I'd say. She really as she looks great. 2332 02:21:49,650 --> 02:21:50,670 Not in this picture. But 2333 02:21:52,800 --> 02:21:55,200 she's not she may be pretty, she may be intelligent. She's not 2334 02:21:55,200 --> 02:21:58,650 that photogenic. Although the fact even she was on the cover 2335 02:21:58,650 --> 02:22:03,090 of Cosmo, apparently. And I don't think you know, okay, 2336 02:22:03,150 --> 02:22:03,930 whatever. Yeah, 2337 02:22:03,960 --> 02:22:05,130 I can see what she's caused. I've 2338 02:22:05,130 --> 02:22:07,200 been blown away by her photos 2339 02:22:07,560 --> 02:22:10,050 that I just saw on TV. I'm only talking as a television 2340 02:22:10,050 --> 02:22:13,350 producer. I'm not talking as a man. I'm talking about someone 2341 02:22:13,350 --> 02:22:17,730 who has hired people before. And this is the direction that 2342 02:22:17,730 --> 02:22:21,750 technology reporting is going in pop culture and innovation. That 2343 02:22:21,750 --> 02:22:22,380 is yeah, 2344 02:22:22,410 --> 02:22:26,700 that's it. Yeah, there's a new Instagram service, Culture and 2345 02:22:26,700 --> 02:22:28,710 Innovation. Yeah. And her 2346 02:22:28,710 --> 02:22:31,140 back forget tech. So her. Her 2347 02:22:31,170 --> 02:22:35,880 credits or credibility comes from covering Pop Culture and 2348 02:22:35,880 --> 02:22:39,720 Innovation for several years. By interviewing SpaceX and Tesla 2349 02:22:39,720 --> 02:22:44,490 CEO Elon Musk. Famed futurist and Google's Director of 2350 02:22:44,490 --> 02:22:48,690 Engineering Ray Kurzweil, and NASA William Gerstenmaier. 2351 02:22:49,230 --> 02:22:52,020 That did it she's good. Well, hold 2352 02:22:52,020 --> 02:22:56,130 on. She has also traveled to Abu Dhabi to report on the pre 2353 02:22:56,130 --> 02:23:00,870 planned sustainable city Mazar, she's toast. She's tasted wine 2354 02:23:00,870 --> 02:23:05,250 made by robots in California's Napa Valley, and covered the 2355 02:23:05,250 --> 02:23:10,770 privatization of space at NASA's Kennedy Space Center and gone 2356 02:23:10,770 --> 02:23:13,620 behind the bars of San Quentin prison to see how the 2357 02:23:13,620 --> 02:23:17,340 institution taught inmates to make many satellites. 2358 02:23:18,570 --> 02:23:20,880 Yeah, that sounds good. Yeah, 2359 02:23:20,940 --> 02:23:24,630 perfect. Right hire a great hire. You know, Lisa should have 2360 02:23:24,630 --> 02:23:25,350 hired her 2361 02:23:29,850 --> 02:23:32,010 so what is the next thing you were gonna say? 2362 02:23:32,040 --> 02:23:35,310 I was going to say thank you all very much for the support of the 2363 02:23:35,310 --> 02:23:41,430 no agenda show devorah.org/a Hey 2364 02:23:49,620 --> 02:23:52,770 where are we just left it off? Ladies. Happy sixth birthday 2365 02:23:52,770 --> 02:23:55,440 from your daddy Shane is very proud of you loves you very much 2366 02:23:55,440 --> 02:23:59,220 Nicole Martini Happy birthday to the love her life John Augustino 2367 02:23:59,220 --> 02:24:06,810 who turned 30 on November 19. We have Dame Joan daughter Frey who 2368 02:24:06,870 --> 02:24:10,290 says oh man, I screwed up happy birthday to Sir Maxim turn 14 2369 02:24:10,290 --> 02:24:13,620 last Friday. Happy birthday to your husband, Alex who turns 50 2370 02:24:13,620 --> 02:24:18,030 tomorrow and and belated Happy anniversary to her husband Alex. 2371 02:24:18,480 --> 02:24:21,390 It was the same date that we celebrated our seventh 2372 02:24:21,390 --> 02:24:25,800 anniversary October 26. So happy birthday to all of you. From all 2373 02:24:25,800 --> 02:24:32,070 of us here the best podcast in the universe. And then we have 2374 02:24:32,070 --> 02:24:38,340 our anointing of Shane Peden and I think he had a name which is 2375 02:24:38,340 --> 02:24:42,690 not on this either. Gotta pull it out of the notes. I know he 2376 02:24:42,690 --> 02:24:48,690 had a name. Here it is. No. I thought he had a special name he 2377 02:24:48,690 --> 02:24:51,720 wanted I'm looking at that note. Now. Maybe it was I thought I 2378 02:24:51,720 --> 02:24:53,160 saw that an email could be wrong. 2379 02:24:54,840 --> 02:24:56,550 So the email I don't have that 2380 02:24:56,700 --> 02:25:01,710 spreadsheet today is kind of in my binder, but I Okay, I just 2381 02:25:01,710 --> 02:25:04,290 thought he had a special name he wanted maybe I'm confused that 2382 02:25:04,290 --> 02:25:07,350 somebody else does not matter because we still pull out our 2383 02:25:07,350 --> 02:25:09,960 blades as mine. 2384 02:25:11,940 --> 02:25:17,640 Hold on, by the way before I pull mine out, as it were. Yes, 2385 02:25:17,910 --> 02:25:21,750 this woman, RACHEL CRANE is has no Wikipedia entry but she's 2386 02:25:21,750 --> 02:25:26,100 listed prominently and IMDb know who's dating who? 2387 02:25:26,430 --> 02:25:27,330 Who she dating. 2388 02:25:27,780 --> 02:25:32,010 She was dating this guy Elias could follow this can follow 2389 02:25:32,010 --> 02:25:36,180 this. Who looks sketchy. And then some Tom Cruise looking 2390 02:25:36,180 --> 02:25:39,480 character that's named Robert shwartzman. But she stopped 2391 02:25:39,480 --> 02:25:43,200 dating him in 2008. I think she's dating this other guy. So 2392 02:25:43,200 --> 02:25:44,460 that's good to know. Good 2393 02:25:44,460 --> 02:25:48,540 to know. Yeah. Thank you. That's why we are the best podcast in 2394 02:25:48,540 --> 02:25:53,430 the universe. It's about time you all right, shaping come 2395 02:25:53,430 --> 02:26:01,350 forward, my friend and please step on up. As we hereby proudly 2396 02:26:01,350 --> 02:26:06,450 Knight V to join the roundtable of the Knights and Dames and 2397 02:26:06,450 --> 02:26:09,900 call you sir shaved season we have for you. You may need him 2398 02:26:10,260 --> 02:26:13,230 hookers and blow red boys and Chardonnay as cream and bear 2399 02:26:13,230 --> 02:26:16,500 feelings porn stars and pop opium and warm orange juice. 2400 02:26:16,650 --> 02:26:20,070 Happy when mingled bourbon served by Oktoberfest frontlines 2401 02:26:20,550 --> 02:26:23,610 wenches and beer bong hits and burn more maybe just a button in 2402 02:26:23,610 --> 02:26:28,740 need all for you please go to no agenda nation.com/rings And I'll 2403 02:26:28,740 --> 02:26:31,230 look again to see if I can find the email I thought somebody you 2404 02:26:31,230 --> 02:26:33,840 had a special night name you want either way 2405 02:26:33,840 --> 02:26:36,360 there's so this RACHEL CRANE is a different RACHEL CRANE. Oh, 2406 02:26:36,360 --> 02:26:37,590 okay. She's an actress. 2407 02:26:37,619 --> 02:26:40,139 Oh, there's there's a rogue person. Yeah. 2408 02:26:40,949 --> 02:26:42,899 It's the same name. If you're in showbiz, I don't know what's 2409 02:26:42,899 --> 02:26:44,969 going on. You can write you and you can fight 2410 02:26:44,970 --> 02:26:50,040 that, you know, you can fight that your mic stand is got a WD 2411 02:26:50,040 --> 02:26:50,460 40. 2412 02:26:51,029 --> 02:26:53,489 No, I actually have the right stuff for it. It's called the 2413 02:26:53,489 --> 02:26:56,549 reticle branch handers and there's I found this lubricant 2414 02:26:56,549 --> 02:27:00,569 that makes it's the greatest stuff ever. out we will talk 2415 02:27:00,569 --> 02:27:02,849 about in next show now and I'll put some on the stand. So I 2416 02:27:02,849 --> 02:27:06,239 don't have this. This constant squeaking I know what you mean, 2417 02:27:06,239 --> 02:27:08,369 because it would stop doing it. So I didn't pay much attention. 2418 02:27:08,369 --> 02:27:09,029 Now today. 2419 02:27:09,060 --> 02:27:11,580 It's actually funny because a couple times during the show, I 2420 02:27:11,610 --> 02:27:14,130 would hear the sound and I thought it was a text message or 2421 02:27:14,130 --> 02:27:17,160 something coming. I had no idea and then I recall. Yes. It's 2422 02:27:17,160 --> 02:27:20,820 just really bad today. It is it is yes. Worse than has been. I'm 2423 02:27:20,820 --> 02:27:22,230 gonna write this down. What's it called? 2424 02:27:23,250 --> 02:27:26,250 ranch hand or something like that. I'll get the name dueling 2425 02:27:26,280 --> 02:27:31,020 ranch hand. It's a very obscure lubricant that I saw. Yeah, I'll 2426 02:27:31,020 --> 02:27:35,730 bet Oh, no, I'm telling you for like WD 40. And just any sort 2427 02:27:35,730 --> 02:27:40,830 of, it's a synthetic oil. So it's a very slippery rock. Girls 2428 02:27:40,830 --> 02:27:45,270 want to try it on any ranch. thing in Holy mackerel 2429 02:27:45,480 --> 02:27:52,260 ranch hand. It's a little pricey be on the safe side. That must 2430 02:27:52,260 --> 02:27:52,830 not be it. 2431 02:27:53,370 --> 02:27:56,070 Now I know what you're talking about. I don't know you're just 2432 02:27:56,070 --> 02:27:59,700 trying to be you're just trying to be Hey, what you're trying to 2433 02:27:59,700 --> 02:28:01,020 do, hey, 2434 02:28:01,380 --> 02:28:07,890 new entry in the DSM. DSM is of course the Bible for OKAY, ALL 2435 02:28:07,890 --> 02:28:11,280 THINGS crazy that it really is just a sales tool for the 2436 02:28:11,280 --> 02:28:18,840 pharmaceutical industry. Okay. orthorexia nervosa, have you 2437 02:28:18,840 --> 02:28:25,620 heard of this? Would you like to hear about it? No. No, you 2438 02:28:25,620 --> 02:28:26,730 don't? Would you like to hear about 2439 02:28:26,730 --> 02:28:28,950 it break it down to say it has something to do with 2440 02:28:29,699 --> 02:28:33,269 striving to eat healthy foods is a good thing unless you take it 2441 02:28:33,269 --> 02:28:36,479 too far. And increasingly, experts are seeing people slide 2442 02:28:36,479 --> 02:28:39,899 into an obsession with healthy eating that can be decidedly 2443 02:28:39,899 --> 02:28:42,839 unhealthy and even lead to malnutrition. Here to tell us 2444 02:28:42,839 --> 02:28:45,419 more about the condition some experts referred to as 2445 02:28:45,449 --> 02:28:49,379 orthorexia is WSJ health reporter Sumati. Reddy. Sumati. 2446 02:28:49,379 --> 02:28:52,289 Thanks so much for being here. Tell us about this condition is 2447 02:28:52,289 --> 02:28:55,649 it officially recognized? So it's not it's not in the DSM, 2448 02:28:55,649 --> 02:28:58,889 which is like the Bible of mental illness? It's coming. But 2449 02:28:58,889 --> 02:29:01,019 some experts will say that there are certain categories that 2450 02:29:01,019 --> 02:29:04,289 could fall under. And it's similar in some ways to 2451 02:29:04,289 --> 02:29:07,679 anorexia, but different in others, correct? Yeah. So like 2452 02:29:07,679 --> 02:29:11,519 the driving, sort of motivation behind it is very different than 2453 02:29:11,519 --> 02:29:14,489 anorexia because it's about quality of food, not quantity. 2454 02:29:14,519 --> 02:29:17,399 And it has nothing to do with body issues. zactly and trying 2455 02:29:17,399 --> 02:29:20,309 to be thin. Exactly. No, there's just people who really just are 2456 02:29:20,339 --> 02:29:22,169 concerned about what they're putting into their body. It has 2457 02:29:22,169 --> 02:29:25,319 to be organic, it has to be vegan and has to be certain type 2458 02:29:25,319 --> 02:29:27,359 of food from a certain grocery store, that kind of thing, but 2459 02:29:27,359 --> 02:29:32,039 the same issues of control and denial can be at play, correct? 2460 02:29:32,039 --> 02:29:34,919 Yes. So you do have a lot of similarities with obsessive 2461 02:29:34,919 --> 02:29:37,409 compulsive disorder as well as like anorexia and sometimes it 2462 02:29:37,409 --> 02:29:39,809 can lead to anorexia because these people end up you know, 2463 02:29:39,809 --> 02:29:42,659 not eating a lot of food. Sounds like the kind of thing that can 2464 02:29:42,659 --> 02:29:46,979 start very innocently with a positive idea of changing your 2465 02:29:46,979 --> 02:29:50,759 lifestyle and eating healthy foods and then vegan, it's a 2466 02:29:50,759 --> 02:29:53,159 slippery slope, correct. So it's actually so you know, you get 2467 02:29:53,159 --> 02:29:55,229 people who are like gluten free and they're cutting out in their 2468 02:29:55,229 --> 02:29:58,319 dairy free and they're sugar free card free and so many major 2469 02:29:58,319 --> 02:30:00,509 food groups. There's not much that left that you You can eat 2470 02:30:00,509 --> 02:30:01,769 and that's how you end up, you know, 2471 02:30:02,040 --> 02:30:04,230 dying. Okay, dust. 2472 02:30:06,270 --> 02:30:08,640 It was funny. I had to we had Ron and our friends Ron and 2473 02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:11,940 Peggy over. Was that maybe 2474 02:30:11,970 --> 02:30:14,100 a Friday? you've discussed them before on the show, Ron and 2475 02:30:14,370 --> 02:30:20,340 I may be wrong and Peggy are born and bred Texans had been in 2476 02:30:20,340 --> 02:30:24,720 Austin since early early 70s. Very famous for the restaurant 2477 02:30:24,720 --> 02:30:26,400 Jeffries, which they sold 2478 02:30:27,540 --> 02:30:30,720 them. You have we have talked about this because of Jeffrey's 2479 02:30:30,900 --> 02:30:34,920 right. And they're, they're your age, you know, so I get along 2480 02:30:34,920 --> 02:30:44,370 famously with him. Okay. And we were talking about what came up 2481 02:30:44,370 --> 02:30:47,730 was DDT, and I'm not quite sure 2482 02:30:48,840 --> 02:30:51,120 what I already know where this is going. 2483 02:30:51,750 --> 02:30:57,090 Well, now these are Austinites. So they are, you know, they're, 2484 02:30:57,750 --> 02:31:01,380 they can they were only like, Hey, what's your view on on 2485 02:31:01,380 --> 02:31:04,950 ISIS, or their sons works for UNESCO is going to do to jika 2486 02:31:04,950 --> 02:31:07,920 stone or something. They're really worried I said, and, of 2487 02:31:07,920 --> 02:31:11,160 course, I laid into it, that, you know, going to Tajikistan is 2488 02:31:11,160 --> 02:31:11,430 just as 2489 02:31:11,730 --> 02:31:14,760 pleasant as hell for these people to come over for dinner. 2490 02:31:14,760 --> 02:31:17,250 They get they get, they must be having the shakes when they 2491 02:31:17,250 --> 02:31:18,090 leave your place. 2492 02:31:18,840 --> 02:31:22,080 Mickey actually, she said it's she's she's Do you think that 2493 02:31:22,080 --> 02:31:24,990 they're really a friend or they just want to come over to laugh 2494 02:31:24,990 --> 02:31:25,500 at us? 2495 02:31:25,890 --> 02:31:29,880 No, they I guarantee that's, well, I'm sure that that was 2496 02:31:29,880 --> 02:31:32,220 some of your other friends. Not these not pegging where they 2497 02:31:32,220 --> 02:31:35,430 shake their heads ago. Can you believe what that guy thinks? 2498 02:31:36,720 --> 02:31:38,160 Yeah, I'm sure there's a little that 2499 02:31:38,189 --> 02:31:40,859 they were actually worried about. That's just it's more 2500 02:31:40,859 --> 02:31:43,349 dangerous to drive to Houston than it is for your kid to go to 2501 02:31:43,349 --> 02:31:44,159 Tajikistan. 2502 02:31:44,490 --> 02:31:47,880 That's true. Yeah, but come up with a stat that proves that. 2503 02:31:48,269 --> 02:31:51,479 So we were talking about a noun pissed off, I can't remember 2504 02:31:51,539 --> 02:31:58,889 what it must have been something that we did. Anyway. I said, 2505 02:31:58,889 --> 02:32:02,609 this is just like DDT, which, you know, got taken taken off 2506 02:32:02,609 --> 02:32:05,609 the market with all these lies, it was creating cancer and 2507 02:32:05,609 --> 02:32:10,739 killing eagles and, and I said, the guy who invented it, of 2508 02:32:10,739 --> 02:32:14,309 course, millions of people died since because DDT is no longer 2509 02:32:14,309 --> 02:32:17,789 allowed to be sold. And now people have malaria. And he 2510 02:32:17,789 --> 02:32:21,119 said, Well, it's funny you say that? Because when I was a kid, 2511 02:32:21,149 --> 02:32:25,469 he did it when I was a kid. We weren't. We were not rich. We 2512 02:32:25,469 --> 02:32:29,189 lived in the cheapass neighborhood. The DDT truck 2513 02:32:29,189 --> 02:32:32,399 would come around, and we would all be so happy and we'd be 2514 02:32:32,399 --> 02:32:35,609 jumping around to get sprayed completely by it. So we wouldn't 2515 02:32:35,609 --> 02:32:39,569 get all kinds of fleas and ticks and crap. And I said, No, you 2516 02:32:39,569 --> 02:32:41,279 did. He said no. 2517 02:32:42,390 --> 02:32:46,170 Which is to add to it ever heard about the DDT truck? Oh, well, 2518 02:32:46,200 --> 02:32:49,530 that would be Texas. That was great. 2519 02:32:49,650 --> 02:32:55,530 I didn't I didn't do any DDT truck, Texas. I didn't do any 2520 02:32:55,530 --> 02:33:00,570 research on Oh, I can find the fog truck. Oh, they fog you with 2521 02:33:00,570 --> 02:33:05,670 it? Yeah. In San Antonio. There it is San Antonio. Ha. And 2522 02:33:05,670 --> 02:33:10,980 people the kids were so happy. You wouldn't have lice. I wonder 2523 02:33:10,980 --> 02:33:11,700 what I want. I 2524 02:33:11,880 --> 02:33:16,980 don't know somebody that stockpiled. Or their father 2525 02:33:16,980 --> 02:33:19,830 stockpiled DDT. Because he thought that thing was something 2526 02:33:19,830 --> 02:33:22,920 of a scam in Georgia somewhere. And they had so many barrels of 2527 02:33:22,920 --> 02:33:27,810 it, that he keeps spraying his area and according to you can, 2528 02:33:28,320 --> 02:33:31,140 according to this person telling me the story you can from a 2529 02:33:31,140 --> 02:33:35,550 satellite photo, you can see that it's like this green lush, 2530 02:33:35,760 --> 02:33:41,130 fantastic block of goodness in the middle of nowhere. That's 2531 02:33:41,130 --> 02:33:46,830 all dead. And because this stuff is you know, if you get hacked, 2532 02:33:46,830 --> 02:33:49,680 you can get a hold of it. It's like really a great bug killer. 2533 02:33:50,790 --> 02:33:53,160 But it doesn't include DDT anymore, I presume? 2534 02:33:53,400 --> 02:34:01,740 No, this was DDT. Oh. It was just straight DDT. Anyway, yeah, 2535 02:34:01,740 --> 02:34:05,640 it was it's an actually interesting story of me the 2536 02:34:05,640 --> 02:34:09,120 argument out here in California, where a lot of this stuff begins 2537 02:34:09,120 --> 02:34:11,880 was that it was making the Pelican eggs. I was at 2538 02:34:11,880 --> 02:34:12,480 harlequins. 2539 02:34:12,480 --> 02:34:15,120 You're right it wasn't eagles, it was pelicans. Pelicans. Yeah, 2540 02:34:15,150 --> 02:34:15,360 we 2541 02:34:15,900 --> 02:34:18,330 were getting thin and they blamed it on DDT. And I don't 2542 02:34:18,330 --> 02:34:21,090 have that documented that possessively began the whole 2543 02:34:21,090 --> 02:34:25,170 thing because we need our pelicans which is a great bird. 2544 02:34:25,170 --> 02:34:27,180 By the way, if you're driving around the San Francisco Bay 2545 02:34:27,180 --> 02:34:29,790 area, there's a lot of pelicans around and you see him flying, 2546 02:34:29,910 --> 02:34:32,370 if you can put two and two together and see how the 2547 02:34:32,370 --> 02:34:36,270 reptiles became birds. Then you're you're oblivious to the 2548 02:34:36,270 --> 02:34:42,840 obvious Okay, well I got some I got some Oh, there it is again. 2549 02:34:43,530 --> 02:34:48,810 I kept Yeah, it's my my style of what I'm doing. I got it. I got 2550 02:34:48,810 --> 02:34:53,160 a guest the movie. Oh, I have a couple complaints by the way up 2551 02:34:53,160 --> 02:34:55,350 for that. I'm gonna come out on the show. I've been about 2552 02:34:55,380 --> 02:34:59,490 me about me in particular, but things to do. I want to start 2553 02:34:59,490 --> 02:35:01,620 with one of the good plates I thought we're doing guest the 2554 02:35:01,620 --> 02:35:02,400 movie for guest 2555 02:35:02,400 --> 02:35:05,580 the movie after this. Okay, this one I want you to get this will 2556 02:35:05,580 --> 02:35:09,210 be another Adam gets something. This is what's wrong with this 2557 02:35:09,210 --> 02:35:11,910 clip from American Dad. Okay, 2558 02:35:11,970 --> 02:35:15,120 so is this an ask Adam is this kind of well you know it's just 2559 02:35:15,120 --> 02:35:16,080 not not don't worry about it. 2560 02:35:16,530 --> 02:35:19,140 And lastly the schools are running contain mascots been 2561 02:35:19,140 --> 02:35:22,140 missing since last week if anyone sees it, I learned the 2562 02:35:22,140 --> 02:35:23,610 new head of the zoology department. 2563 02:35:25,470 --> 02:35:28,440 There it is. It would be zoology instead of Zoo. 2564 02:35:29,070 --> 02:35:33,060 I like to know how a Seth MacFarlane has a huge staff of 2565 02:35:33,060 --> 02:35:35,640 people. I don't want to beat this to death. 2566 02:35:35,790 --> 02:35:38,070 I've been to a table reading Have you know this? Right? 2567 02:35:39,029 --> 02:35:41,969 I think you mentioned it once before. There's a huge number of 2568 02:35:41,969 --> 02:35:44,249 people and that the table reading is a good example. And 2569 02:35:44,249 --> 02:35:49,979 he put the table Oh 2020 And they all read this script and 2570 02:35:49,979 --> 02:35:53,939 then they somebody says zoo ology, and nobody says anything. 2571 02:35:54,869 --> 02:35:57,989 Okay, well, then you're dealing with idiots. Seth has Tourette's 2572 02:35:57,989 --> 02:36:00,899 by the way. Oh, that makes nothing but sense. 2573 02:36:00,930 --> 02:36:05,310 He's got the same tics that I do. Which is why I'm convinced 2574 02:36:05,310 --> 02:36:07,080 he doesn't like to do interviews. 2575 02:36:08,790 --> 02:36:12,060 Oh, that would explain it. He's very rarely on an interview. I 2576 02:36:12,060 --> 02:36:14,160 don't think I've seen him once. Ever. 2577 02:36:15,300 --> 02:36:17,760 All right, time for guest guest the movie. Yeah. Guest the 2578 02:36:17,760 --> 02:36:23,250 movie. It's time for another episode of guests that movie. 2579 02:36:23,940 --> 02:36:28,080 All right. Here we go. Everybody gets that movie. The game show 2580 02:36:28,080 --> 02:36:42,900 where I suck I like a lot of call it for sad enough? I guess 2581 02:36:42,900 --> 02:36:43,320 so. 2582 02:36:49,980 --> 02:36:52,950 I got set to the scene. So you can really get get it because 2583 02:36:52,950 --> 02:36:55,170 you just don't seem to seem that you know what this is? 2584 02:36:56,100 --> 02:36:59,940 You don't even let me respond. But okay, okay. You need to set 2585 02:36:59,940 --> 02:37:01,050 the scene. Go ahead and listen. 2586 02:37:01,860 --> 02:37:04,620 She says I like foreplay, grabs her breasts and then she says 2587 02:37:04,620 --> 02:37:07,770 that's enough. And boom. I just wanted to make sure you had that 2588 02:37:07,770 --> 02:37:12,480 part is I'll give you another hint. Okay. Matthew Modine. Yes, 2589 02:37:12,780 --> 02:37:13,980 of course. It is. 2590 02:37:14,550 --> 02:37:18,570 This is Ferris Bueller's Day Off 2591 02:37:24,120 --> 02:37:25,770 you only get one guest. Oh, 2592 02:37:26,010 --> 02:37:32,820 I can't do that. Have a second guest The Breakfast Club. What 2593 02:37:32,820 --> 02:37:37,140 is it? Private School? Oh, I've never seen that one. How could I 2594 02:37:37,140 --> 02:37:38,010 know that? 2595 02:37:38,040 --> 02:37:41,730 I gotta get I gotta get more. I gotta get a better feeling for 2596 02:37:41,730 --> 02:37:43,500 what kind of movies you like. So I can 2597 02:37:43,560 --> 02:37:46,170 I can. I can tell you what movie I watched last night with my 2598 02:37:46,170 --> 02:37:46,710 wife. 2599 02:37:46,980 --> 02:37:47,640 Okay, what? 2600 02:37:50,130 --> 02:37:54,000 What's her name? Candace Cameron. Cameron Diaz. With the 2601 02:37:54,000 --> 02:37:54,600 sex tape. 2602 02:37:54,900 --> 02:37:58,590 Can his camp or kidney sex tapes and intimate? Yeah, 2603 02:37:59,250 --> 02:38:01,620 that's where she makes a sex tape or their husband and that's 2604 02:38:01,620 --> 02:38:05,070 supposed to be very funny movie. I have to tell you. We were 2605 02:38:05,310 --> 02:38:09,510 because I had done all my prep during the day. Okay, I had and 2606 02:38:09,510 --> 02:38:12,630 I even ate my head a pizza during the preps around six and 2607 02:38:12,660 --> 02:38:16,020 seven o'clock to have done and really tired and said well let's 2608 02:38:16,020 --> 02:38:21,990 watch a movie and we're scanning through the the Netflix and oh 2609 02:38:21,990 --> 02:38:25,770 that we wanted to this is gonna be the dumbest movie ever. And 2610 02:38:25,800 --> 02:38:31,200 it was really not it was pretty good. Rob Lowe. Perfect Rob Lowe 2611 02:38:31,230 --> 02:38:35,250 character. Somebody could have could have cut some bits out of 2612 02:38:35,250 --> 02:38:42,780 it. Camera and a lot of camera naked. Very, very sexy. The 2613 02:38:42,780 --> 02:38:47,340 premise of the movie is completely stupid. It was I 2614 02:38:47,340 --> 02:38:52,320 liked it. I would give it a seven. I'm just quite high. 2615 02:38:52,680 --> 02:38:55,890 Okay, fine. And you should become a reviewer on Rotten 2616 02:38:55,890 --> 02:38:56,730 Tomatoes. And I said 2617 02:38:56,730 --> 02:39:00,330 to Mickey, I said I should have paid attention when Cameron's 2618 02:39:00,330 --> 02:39:04,080 mom was pushing her onto me during circus of the stars. 2619 02:39:05,820 --> 02:39:11,490 Really now she's 13 So I don't know. Which she was kind of old. 2620 02:39:11,490 --> 02:39:16,410 You 1919 2019 It's kind of homely looking. 2621 02:39:16,890 --> 02:39:19,800 Yeah, she needs makeup shapes but but she blossomed. 2622 02:39:21,720 --> 02:39:25,710 All right. Well, then I have only two more things. I don't 2623 02:39:25,710 --> 02:39:34,800 know if I could save some of it. I think I should do the bulletin 2624 02:39:34,800 --> 02:39:43,260 Yeah, the Ebola piece Oh law, as predicted. Sir Bob Geldof and 2625 02:39:43,260 --> 02:39:50,070 amid your your buddy mid your ultravox and big announcement. 2626 02:39:50,970 --> 02:39:56,670 big big big big announcement, Band Aid. 30 everybody. That's 2627 02:39:56,670 --> 02:40:02,430 right. Releasing once again. Do They Know It's Christmas time. 2628 02:40:03,120 --> 02:40:06,900 And this falls right in line with not only Facebook, but 2629 02:40:06,900 --> 02:40:13,050 Google, both soliciting donations for Ebola. So we're 2630 02:40:13,050 --> 02:40:17,640 ratcheting this puppy up even though there's been no Ebola and 2631 02:40:17,640 --> 02:40:23,850 care alone for 42 days more than 42 days now. But I think adding 2632 02:40:23,850 --> 02:40:29,310 credence to at least my thesis slash theorbo theorem, that this 2633 02:40:29,310 --> 02:40:36,480 is bullcrap to surround the oil arm some rebels. The President 2634 02:40:36,480 --> 02:40:42,450 finally released his own where's it released? The gonna get it 2635 02:40:42,450 --> 02:40:48,600 here. The we did the fiscal year 2015 budget amendments? I think 2636 02:40:48,600 --> 02:40:53,490 we did that. Right. Perhaps. Okay. But I asked Congress to 2637 02:40:53,490 --> 02:40:56,250 consider inclusive and close fiscal year 2015 budget 2638 02:40:56,250 --> 02:41:00,870 amendment for the Department of Defense. This is to combat Of 2639 02:41:00,870 --> 02:41:04,500 course, the the cuts in the increases, amendment will 2640 02:41:04,500 --> 02:41:09,360 provide for $5.6 billion that's for the degrade and ultimately 2641 02:41:09,360 --> 02:41:16,410 defeat the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. $5 billion, in 2642 02:41:16,410 --> 02:41:24,330 addition to the $58.6 billion bringing 260 $3.6 billion for 2643 02:41:25,740 --> 02:41:30,450 some more money. Nothing. I'm sorry, the ISIL stuff is not in 2644 02:41:30,450 --> 02:41:34,260 here. Okay. Oh, the Ebola stuff. 2645 02:41:35,670 --> 02:41:37,020 So well, I've 2646 02:41:37,980 --> 02:41:42,090 kind of go back to Ebola. Yeah, hit it. So the two things are 2647 02:41:42,210 --> 02:41:48,030 one. I find it very disturbing. Is Google and Facebook. raising 2648 02:41:48,030 --> 02:41:54,120 money for Ebola? I don't understand. What why. We mean, 2649 02:41:54,120 --> 02:41:57,690 why? Why are they doing it? I said I don't understand. They 2650 02:41:57,690 --> 02:42:02,580 say because it's I think it's just ramping up hysteria. We do 2651 02:42:02,580 --> 02:42:05,640 have a pandemic elections are over. Yeah. They just started 2652 02:42:05,640 --> 02:42:08,790 this. On think they 2653 02:42:08,790 --> 02:42:11,970 missed a point. I don't know. I don't know. They didn't know 2654 02:42:11,970 --> 02:42:13,770 this was all about the elections. We have 2655 02:42:13,770 --> 02:42:17,760 Molly involved in this as well. You know, Molly now has and we 2656 02:42:17,760 --> 02:42:21,720 know our economic hitman has said yes, yes, yes, yes. The 2657 02:42:21,720 --> 02:42:25,890 Ebola. In my seven year old seven year old a mom died from 2658 02:42:25,890 --> 02:42:30,480 Ebola and the 24 year old nurse who was treating him. That's the 2659 02:42:30,480 --> 02:42:34,290 way I want to go. So a lot of so this is coming back. We have sir 2660 02:42:34,290 --> 02:42:38,640 Bob and Mitch, you are a little bit of their announcement to Bob 2661 02:42:38,640 --> 02:42:43,260 Geldof he now he's been called by the UN. Now this is what he 2662 02:42:43,260 --> 02:42:46,260 does. They pay him to do this. They pay him and then you have 2663 02:42:46,260 --> 02:42:50,100 theirs. They've got all kinds of little companies. It's all on 2664 02:42:50,100 --> 02:42:53,190 the show notes. If you're interested in looking at it. We 2665 02:42:53,190 --> 02:42:59,910 have the what is it called? The word charm limited, which is the 2666 02:43:01,980 --> 02:43:06,840 the company that handles all the rights and licensing for Band 2667 02:43:06,840 --> 02:43:11,640 Aid hashtag band aid 30. And you look at Harvey Goldsmith, he's 2668 02:43:11,640 --> 02:43:13,620 the big concert promoter put on like a 2669 02:43:14,010 --> 02:43:18,660 band aid 30 for Ebola, it's for Ebola, and you're not gonna fly? 2670 02:43:19,080 --> 02:43:21,180 Well, I'm telling you, the Ebola thing was all about the 2671 02:43:21,180 --> 02:43:22,710 elections, the elections are over. 2672 02:43:23,100 --> 02:43:26,070 It's not all about the elections. John, it's about 2673 02:43:26,880 --> 02:43:29,880 Africa, and West Africa in particular, you know, this has 2674 02:43:29,880 --> 02:43:33,480 been my thesis, which is why it's ongoing. What's interesting 2675 02:43:33,480 --> 02:43:38,670 about this is that if you look at the charter of the we're 2676 02:43:38,670 --> 02:43:42,300 trying to limited and the band aid 30, which has been renamed, 2677 02:43:42,540 --> 02:43:47,130 their charter has always been to feed the world and make sure 2678 02:43:47,160 --> 02:43:50,760 that they then continued on some proceeds still, which is very 2679 02:43:50,760 --> 02:43:55,080 low at this point, have been going to, you know, help feed 2680 02:43:55,080 --> 02:43:58,350 the world. But now all of a sudden, which is not the charter 2681 02:43:58,380 --> 02:44:03,450 of the charity, they're going to feed Ebola or or help a bola 2682 02:44:03,450 --> 02:44:06,870 because the UN has asked Bob Geldof to do this, telling me 2683 02:44:06,900 --> 02:44:10,710 again that remember the world food programs involved. You 2684 02:44:10,710 --> 02:44:13,620 remember John the big scam we talked about? Yeah, back to 2685 02:44:13,620 --> 02:44:14,730 Yeah, we talked about it quite 2686 02:44:14,730 --> 02:44:21,450 a lot of pressure on Mitch myself to do it for, I suppose 2687 02:44:21,630 --> 02:44:25,410 cultural reasons or whatever documentaries and things. And 2688 02:44:25,410 --> 02:44:29,400 neither of us are into nostalgia. But about three weeks 2689 02:44:29,400 --> 02:44:34,860 ago, I got a call from the UN saying that they required at 2690 02:44:34,860 --> 02:44:41,400 least a 20% increase across the board and systems and materials. 2691 02:44:41,490 --> 02:44:44,640 So this is how it works. The UN is calling everybody they're 2692 02:44:44,640 --> 02:44:48,180 calling Geldof the calling soccer Zuckerberg they're 2693 02:44:48,180 --> 02:44:52,890 calling Sergey or Eric or Larry or whatever. We need 20% 2694 02:44:52,890 --> 02:44:53,640 increase 2695 02:44:54,330 --> 02:44:59,040 in personnel. They can't put a number on it. But they're very 2696 02:44:59,040 --> 02:45:03,780 concerned that this Situation in West Africa will either spiraled 2697 02:45:03,870 --> 02:45:08,250 beyond those borders sometime around the beginning or mid 2698 02:45:08,250 --> 02:45:11,760 December or will be contained. And then 2699 02:45:11,760 --> 02:45:14,760 it sounds like we only have a couple of weeks before spirals 2700 02:45:14,760 --> 02:45:15,660 out of control. I 2701 02:45:15,750 --> 02:45:19,470 think what triggered it both for Mitch and myself was the 2702 02:45:19,470 --> 02:45:26,790 phenomenal bravery of the national health workers, the 2703 02:45:26,790 --> 02:45:28,320 nurses and doctors at 2704 02:45:28,440 --> 02:45:29,700 disguise of whoring. 2705 02:45:30,600 --> 02:45:32,280 Okay, so you don't want to hear it anymore. Do you want to hear 2706 02:45:32,280 --> 02:45:32,820 the song? 2707 02:45:33,660 --> 02:45:35,190 I had the song yeah 2708 02:45:46,170 --> 02:45:47,910 the songs, the songs aren't out yet, 2709 02:45:48,150 --> 02:45:51,540 guys. I'd be very interested when it comes out. 2710 02:45:51,570 --> 02:45:58,050 What's gonna be Phoebe bola? Do They Know It's Christmas time? 2711 02:45:58,170 --> 02:46:01,440 fidi that's the song. You know the song? 2712 02:46:01,830 --> 02:46:04,770 Yeah, you think they would? No, no, no, you're just now you're 2713 02:46:04,770 --> 02:46:05,880 off to edge. That's 2714 02:46:05,880 --> 02:46:08,070 the song. It's it's the remake. 2715 02:46:08,130 --> 02:46:11,100 You're gonna remake it and use the word Ebola and yes, well, 2716 02:46:11,100 --> 02:46:11,220 you 2717 02:46:11,220 --> 02:46:14,310 don't want to listen to the Geldof. So you found out that 2718 02:46:14,310 --> 02:46:14,880 don't because 2719 02:46:14,880 --> 02:46:20,520 it's like stick pins in my eyes. Listen to that guy Yak. I just 2720 02:46:20,520 --> 02:46:22,590 wanted to get one thing out of the way since we seem to be 2721 02:46:22,680 --> 02:46:27,060 ignoring it to an extreme on the show, which is that Mexico is on 2722 02:46:27,060 --> 02:46:29,670 the borderline of having a revolution down there. I have 2723 02:46:29,670 --> 02:46:32,700 not yet covered by us. It's not being covered by the mainstream 2724 02:46:32,700 --> 02:46:35,610 media in the United States. It's being covered internationally. 2725 02:46:36,030 --> 02:46:39,330 But they're burning down the place. That area where the 43 2726 02:46:39,330 --> 02:46:43,710 students were murdered by the US is being burned to the ground. 2727 02:46:43,710 --> 02:46:45,960 They've they're now they're in Mexico City burning down the 2728 02:46:45,960 --> 02:46:46,770 palaces. Tell 2729 02:46:46,770 --> 02:46:49,650 me please tell me. Well, let's 2730 02:46:49,650 --> 02:46:52,620 play a couple of reports. So we can at least get up and then we 2731 02:46:52,620 --> 02:46:56,730 can good. And yes, because I was France 20 fours report on this. 2732 02:46:58,650 --> 02:47:02,430 to Mexico now where protests angry over the disappearance of 2733 02:47:02,430 --> 02:47:06,180 43 college students have set fire to a state Congress 2734 02:47:06,180 --> 02:47:10,200 building in Guerrero states. It's just the latest in a series 2735 02:47:10,200 --> 02:47:13,350 of violent protests that have erupted since Friday, when 2736 02:47:13,350 --> 02:47:16,380 authorities said that a drug gang were responsible for the 2737 02:47:16,380 --> 02:47:20,610 murders. It's an official line the protesters refused to accept 2738 02:47:20,790 --> 02:47:22,290 Oliver Fairey has this report. 2739 02:47:24,270 --> 02:47:28,080 Relatives of the 43 missing students are angry and still in 2740 02:47:28,080 --> 02:47:31,800 the dark. They met Tuesday night with independent Argentine 2741 02:47:31,800 --> 02:47:35,400 investigators only to learn that the bodies found in a mass grave 2742 02:47:35,400 --> 02:47:39,390 close to require may not be those of the missing families 2743 02:47:39,480 --> 02:47:43,260 are remaining cautious nor will I lose the evidential case and 2744 02:47:43,260 --> 02:47:46,080 when in light of the evidence found is back when travelers 2745 02:47:46,080 --> 02:47:49,290 wall how it was found on the London scene where it was found 2746 02:47:49,290 --> 02:47:53,280 that on tourists they still no confirmation via Nose, nose 2747 02:47:53,280 --> 02:47:56,940 multiple. Now obviously the genetic forensics have led us 2748 02:47:56,940 --> 02:48:01,050 down a different route Yangdi Granata rombo. The federal 2749 02:48:01,050 --> 02:48:04,260 government had said last week that gang members confessed to 2750 02:48:04,260 --> 02:48:07,980 the killing. But speaking to France farm cat Mexico's deputy 2751 02:48:07,980 --> 02:48:10,650 foreign minister said the government was not rushing to 2752 02:48:10,650 --> 02:48:11,580 conclusions and 2753 02:48:12,510 --> 02:48:17,160 they are missing and they will remain so until we know exactly 2754 02:48:17,490 --> 02:48:23,640 the identity of the remnants that were just sent to one 2755 02:48:24,210 --> 02:48:26,790 specialized laboratory in Austria. 2756 02:48:27,390 --> 02:48:31,620 Protesters on Tuesday Hales Guerrero states Japji security 2757 02:48:31,620 --> 02:48:35,340 chief for several hours before handing him over to a local 2758 02:48:35,340 --> 02:48:39,300 human rights group. The ruling Institutional Revolutionary 2759 02:48:39,300 --> 02:48:43,020 Party is regional headquarters were also torched. The 2760 02:48:43,020 --> 02:48:46,680 demonstrators say they want justice for the 43 students who 2761 02:48:46,680 --> 02:48:51,240 went missing in September. Amid the unrest President Ernesto 2762 02:48:51,240 --> 02:48:54,840 pinion Yeto has been criticized for traveling to China for a 2763 02:48:54,840 --> 02:48:58,980 summit. The tragic murky case has undermined his assurances 2764 02:48:58,980 --> 02:49:02,640 that his security strategy was bearing fruit and reducing 2765 02:49:02,640 --> 02:49:06,990 Mexico's infamous gang warfare. Okay, 2766 02:49:07,260 --> 02:49:10,440 we have something to do with this with our situation with the 2767 02:49:10,440 --> 02:49:13,650 Sinaloa Cartel, but they never discussed any of that play the 2768 02:49:13,860 --> 02:49:16,680 democracy now is a slight another take on this. These are 2769 02:49:16,680 --> 02:49:18,390 all slightly different perspectives. 2770 02:49:18,480 --> 02:49:23,310 Okay. All right. protests are continuing across Mexico after 2771 02:49:23,310 --> 02:49:26,880 the apparent confession of confession of gang members for 2772 02:49:26,880 --> 02:49:30,570 the massacre of 43 college students in the southern state 2773 02:49:30,570 --> 02:49:34,620 of Colorado six weeks ago. On Friday, the Mexican Attorney 2774 02:49:34,620 --> 02:49:37,530 General said suspects in the case admitted to killing the 2775 02:49:37,530 --> 02:49:42,390 students and incinerating their bodies leaving investigators to 2776 02:49:42,390 --> 02:49:45,840 the remains. The students disappeared following a police 2777 02:49:45,840 --> 02:49:50,490 ambush fueling public anger over government corruption and 2778 02:49:50,490 --> 02:49:54,750 Mexico's endemic violence. On Saturday, a breakaway group of 2779 02:49:54,750 --> 02:49:57,660 protesters set fire to the door of the presidential palace in 2780 02:49:57,660 --> 02:50:01,050 Mexico City after a march that Truthout Dozens of people. 2781 02:50:01,380 --> 02:50:05,160 Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto has drawn criticism for 2782 02:50:05,160 --> 02:50:08,580 leaving Mexico to attend the APEC summit in China amidst the 2783 02:50:08,580 --> 02:50:12,150 unrest. A new report from a leading Mexican journalist says 2784 02:50:12,150 --> 02:50:15,630 pinion Yeto lives in a private mansion owned by a contractor 2785 02:50:15,630 --> 02:50:18,120 who received a lucrative government contract to build 2786 02:50:18,150 --> 02:50:23,850 high speed rail. We'll have more from after headlines. Okay. Ah, 2787 02:50:24,780 --> 02:50:28,260 this is getting strange. And then we have the last clip. I 2788 02:50:28,260 --> 02:50:31,680 have two more, but I think what I'll do, which is, this is the 2789 02:50:31,680 --> 02:50:35,310 guy who's the head of the Mexican law journal, speaking 2790 02:50:35,520 --> 02:50:39,720 and discussing the possibility of a coup d'etat. Yeah. Okay, 2791 02:50:39,810 --> 02:50:42,930 which can happen at any moment, apparently. And this is the 2792 02:50:43,050 --> 02:50:45,180 Mexico of fancy ideas 2793 02:50:45,270 --> 02:50:48,510 straight. That National Palace was birthed by Governor 2794 02:50:48,510 --> 02:50:51,600 provocateurs and a coordinated action all of a sudden, a few 2795 02:50:51,600 --> 02:50:54,750 hours later, Pinyon because we say no to violence, we are in 2796 02:50:54,750 --> 02:50:59,040 favor of peace. Violence is done by the Mexican state. We don't 2797 02:50:59,040 --> 02:51:01,290 have to wait for it at the local. This isn't a little 2798 02:51:01,320 --> 02:51:03,990 better local massacre, it already happened. And so that's 2799 02:51:03,990 --> 02:51:06,840 where the average is coming. Of course, hopefully, there's not 2800 02:51:06,840 --> 02:51:09,630 another one. But on Wednesday, and there's something out I 2801 02:51:09,630 --> 02:51:11,550 know, I'm taking up too much time. We can come back to this 2802 02:51:11,550 --> 02:51:14,430 Wednesday on Monday. Sorry, this this Monday, the Mexican 2803 02:51:14,430 --> 02:51:16,500 military and you mentioned booking the vessel. What 2804 02:51:16,500 --> 02:51:19,620 happened in Burkina Faso coup d'etat on Monday, the Mexican 2805 02:51:19,620 --> 02:51:23,850 military front page on Tuesday, but on Monday, the general 2806 02:51:24,150 --> 02:51:29,850 synthwave was said we are ready to intervene not only to combat 2807 02:51:29,880 --> 02:51:32,940 organized crime, but we are ready to intervene to defend 2808 02:51:33,000 --> 02:51:36,720 Enrique Pena yet those political reforms, structural reforms, 2809 02:51:36,720 --> 02:51:39,840 economic reforms, this is a political agenda that the 2810 02:51:39,840 --> 02:51:42,630 military is setting out there. And this is very dangerous. 2811 02:51:42,630 --> 02:51:45,150 That's why it's very important that we're here in Paris. And 2812 02:51:45,150 --> 02:51:47,040 then there's a lot of international attention here 2813 02:51:47,040 --> 02:51:49,680 because otherwise, the Mexican military, which historically has 2814 02:51:49,680 --> 02:51:52,200 been very well disciplined said Midas is already getting 2815 02:51:52,200 --> 02:51:54,990 Germany's mind started to get fancy ideas, and that would be 2816 02:51:54,990 --> 02:51:59,820 dangerous. There's a lot of, huh, okay, can you break it 2817 02:51:59,820 --> 02:52:00,180 down? 2818 02:52:00,390 --> 02:52:03,810 Trying to now but the thing is that we're not I believe the 2819 02:52:03,810 --> 02:52:07,410 United States is is yet to get involved in this. And that's why 2820 02:52:07,410 --> 02:52:10,410 the news outlets we don't discuss it when you look at the 2821 02:52:10,410 --> 02:52:15,060 foreign this time this country is burning. 2822 02:52:15,330 --> 02:52:19,050 I would say that the reason why our news in America is not 2823 02:52:19,050 --> 02:52:23,880 showing it is because no one is being offered for interviews by 2824 02:52:23,880 --> 02:52:26,520 the by the strike department, because that's typically how it 2825 02:52:26,520 --> 02:52:29,370 happens. What are we going to do? Oh, we gotta call it Oh, in 2826 02:52:29,460 --> 02:52:32,640 talking to some guy okay. No one's there's no Booker's going 2827 02:52:32,640 --> 02:52:39,180 out there trying to find news, Booker's talent Booker's. Okay. 2828 02:52:40,830 --> 02:52:44,190 The military coup d'etat is that the is that's a 2829 02:52:44,190 --> 02:52:52,110 possibility, although this guy Enrique Pena, Neto is a would be 2830 02:52:52,110 --> 02:52:57,180 part of it. Whatever is going on is it seems to be a little off 2831 02:52:57,180 --> 02:53:00,990 script from the normal stuff that we look at. It's it's right 2832 02:53:00,990 --> 02:53:03,480 on our border, which you'd think that would get a little more 2833 02:53:03,480 --> 02:53:07,140 attention. I border, Hulu, my boy. Right on right next to it 2834 02:53:07,140 --> 02:53:10,170 right down the street from you. Yeah, it's right down the street 2835 02:53:10,170 --> 02:53:14,250 from you. And it's like, I think it needs to be followed a little 2836 02:53:14,250 --> 02:53:17,940 more closely, because nobody else is discussing it. I mean, 2837 02:53:17,940 --> 02:53:20,580 we had enough trouble trying to get anything going with the 2838 02:53:20,610 --> 02:53:25,470 Venezuelan situation we had people criticizing us for. But 2839 02:53:25,590 --> 02:53:28,770 yeah, for not having not being able to do anything for lack of 2840 02:53:28,770 --> 02:53:29,550 information. 2841 02:53:29,580 --> 02:53:32,910 Yeah, we had no information, no insights we get same situation 2842 02:53:32,910 --> 02:53:37,560 here. I don't know how many we have a couple of Mexican donors. 2843 02:53:37,800 --> 02:53:41,310 And I'd maybe even a night. That would be nice if we heard from 2844 02:53:41,310 --> 02:53:46,170 them. But this situation looks grim. And it may be something 2845 02:53:46,170 --> 02:53:48,930 has been boiling over for some time, which would account for 2846 02:53:48,930 --> 02:53:54,510 all the people flocking across the border. Because this country 2847 02:53:54,510 --> 02:53:55,380 is a mess, 2848 02:53:55,440 --> 02:53:56,880 because it's messed up. Right. 2849 02:53:57,330 --> 02:54:00,030 I mean, you can play the last clip, if you want. Unity, this 2850 02:54:00,030 --> 02:54:04,260 is they put the Mexican military on trial or for for a previous 2851 02:54:04,260 --> 02:54:07,500 massacre that we've never discussed in the United States. 2852 02:54:07,530 --> 02:54:11,370 They are now trying seven or eight military officials in 2853 02:54:11,370 --> 02:54:14,580 civilian courts. This is a major advance in terms of justice, but 2854 02:54:15,000 --> 02:54:17,220 they're doing it because of the international pressure. They're 2855 02:54:17,220 --> 02:54:19,590 being tried not for this massacre, but for the previous 2856 02:54:19,590 --> 02:54:23,910 massacre on June 30. And flat layer, which was absolutely and 2857 02:54:23,910 --> 02:54:26,400 totally covered up by all members of government in 2858 02:54:26,400 --> 02:54:28,530 particular by the federal attorney general for three 2859 02:54:28,530 --> 02:54:33,270 months until the Associated Press and independent witness 2860 02:54:33,330 --> 02:54:36,660 came out and made this international scandals before at 2861 02:54:36,660 --> 02:54:39,990 Napa before this more recent massacre. And that's what forced 2862 02:54:40,050 --> 02:54:43,680 the Mexican government to now try these these military today 2863 02:54:43,680 --> 02:54:47,280 with a new massacre Nuala which was much worse. Once again, the 2864 02:54:47,280 --> 02:54:49,740 military and the federal officials are being protected. 2865 02:54:50,250 --> 02:54:57,000 Ah. Well, I think one thing for sure there's drugs involved. 2866 02:54:57,720 --> 02:55:00,330 There's drugs involved and apparently there's a A lot of 2867 02:55:00,360 --> 02:55:04,830 disappearing going on in Mexico is being discussed in the UN and 2868 02:55:04,830 --> 02:55:09,000 some other centers of influence and mostly in Europe. 2869 02:55:09,090 --> 02:55:13,230 And so let me ask you a question. Should Miss Mickey go 2870 02:55:13,230 --> 02:55:17,400 to Mexico City to discuss her art Expo there? 2871 02:55:18,240 --> 02:55:19,410 I don't see why not. 2872 02:55:19,440 --> 02:55:23,220 You said the country is on fire. It is as Mexico. 2873 02:55:23,730 --> 02:55:27,690 She's dying. She's got an escort. She's fine. She's gonna 2874 02:55:27,690 --> 02:55:30,840 roam around. I mean, I can. There's so many people that 2875 02:55:30,840 --> 02:55:32,970 disappear. They just keep disappearing. I mean, there's a 2876 02:55:32,970 --> 02:55:35,580 lot of kidnappings obviously that go on in Mexico and that's 2877 02:55:35,580 --> 02:55:38,250 been a huge problem where if we even if this has been going on 2878 02:55:38,250 --> 02:55:39,900 for a decade, hey, 2879 02:55:40,349 --> 02:55:43,289 let's kidnap the tall blonde one I hear he can get lots of 2880 02:55:43,289 --> 02:55:44,129 donations. 2881 02:55:44,880 --> 02:55:48,930 i My experience in Mexico last time I was in Mexico City was 2882 02:55:48,930 --> 02:55:53,250 Don't do this. Don't do that. Drive around in the richest of 2883 02:55:53,250 --> 02:55:56,760 the rich drive around and bulletproof Junkers. Nobody can 2884 02:55:56,760 --> 02:56:00,390 drive around in a nice Mercedes or anything else because it gets 2885 02:56:00,630 --> 02:56:03,780 because you'd look like a target. And that was like a 2886 02:56:03,780 --> 02:56:07,440 decade or maybe even longer ago. I mean, it's been deteriorating. 2887 02:56:07,440 --> 02:56:12,090 So God knows what the heck's going on? I don't think it's I 2888 02:56:12,090 --> 02:56:15,060 don't think it's a place you can't visit if you're cautious, 2889 02:56:15,060 --> 02:56:18,960 but it's not. And this is all taking place south of Mexico 2890 02:56:18,960 --> 02:56:22,200 City even though Mexico City was where the riots were. They had 2891 02:56:22,200 --> 02:56:26,430 some there and they burnt to try to burn burned down. One of the 2892 02:56:26,550 --> 02:56:29,820 executive mansions but it was not the place he lives because 2893 02:56:29,820 --> 02:56:32,790 he lives in a fancier place. They had the honcho, the 2894 02:56:32,790 --> 02:56:34,200 president el presidente de 2895 02:56:34,230 --> 02:56:38,160 Okay, so two things I've learned from this one. We certainly need 2896 02:56:38,160 --> 02:56:42,780 help from our Mexican producers. I don't think I've received 2897 02:56:42,780 --> 02:56:48,210 anything any feedback info, whatever. We need some boots on 2898 02:56:48,210 --> 02:56:53,400 the ground information to second thing I've learned when you for 2899 02:56:53,400 --> 02:56:55,830 the people who are making us jalopies to ride around and with 2900 02:56:55,830 --> 02:56:58,620 the big engines, bulletproof I liken it to be Bulletproof 2901 02:56:59,910 --> 02:57:05,040 Bulletproof jalopy with a big engine sticking out. All right. 2902 02:57:06,030 --> 02:57:10,140 Bulletproof Bulletproof. So tomorrow morning or lie we fly 2903 02:57:10,170 --> 02:57:15,900 to New York City? And if not, if not everything has been 2904 02:57:15,900 --> 02:57:26,940 disrupted by the peak of the cycle Genesis. Which Kakou 2905 02:57:26,940 --> 02:57:33,180 predicted. And I guess we're gonna see if we can change our 2906 02:57:33,180 --> 02:57:38,220 strategy there on Syria by Sunday to put more boots on the 2907 02:57:38,220 --> 02:57:42,930 ground and to get them out. Everyone's doing stuff and at 2908 02:57:42,930 --> 02:57:46,320 work. And we are here to deconstruct it for you. 2909 02:57:47,340 --> 02:57:48,420 As best we can 2910 02:57:48,450 --> 02:57:52,140 we do our best to help us. Help me. Please remember us that did 2911 02:57:52,140 --> 02:57:55,440 some help for the Mexican stuff we do. And we always need your 2912 02:57:55,680 --> 02:58:00,360 financial support. dvorak.org/na coming to you from FEMA Region 2913 02:58:00,360 --> 02:58:03,330 six. All right, it's pretty chilly. In the morning, 2914 02:58:03,330 --> 02:58:04,500 everybody. I'm Adam curry. 2915 02:58:05,010 --> 02:58:07,410 And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's not chilly at all. It 2916 02:58:07,410 --> 02:58:10,080 was rain this morning. But now it's clearing up right now the 2917 02:58:10,080 --> 02:58:15,180 California desert day. I'm John. I'm somebody John C. Dvorak. I 2918 02:58:15,180 --> 02:58:18,630 think John Holdren botched the beginning too. So I might as 2919 02:58:18,630 --> 02:58:21,930 well finish with a balanced approach. We'll talk to you 2920 02:58:21,930 --> 02:58:32,730 again on Sunday right here on no agenda. Baby bingo boom bingo 2921 02:58:32,730 --> 02:58:39,060 Boom shakalaka it was worth it. It's it was worth it. I'm Joe 2922 02:58:39,060 --> 02:58:43,020 Biden. And thank you for taking the time to listen. Adios MoPhO 2923 02:58:47,310 --> 02:58:51,060 devora.org/n A