1 00:00:02,009 --> 00:00:05,729 Well, it is time for the programme that comes from two 2 00:00:05,729 --> 00:00:09,959 different parts of the world. They've got a lot, Dave. They're 3 00:00:09,959 --> 00:00:14,219 lacking a lot. Oh man is the worst intro I've ever done. No 4 00:00:14,219 --> 00:00:17,519 jingles, no commercials, maybe in a phone call here or there. 5 00:00:17,519 --> 00:00:20,579 But still, it's no agenda coming to you from the United Kingdom 6 00:00:20,579 --> 00:00:22,409 in the curry manner. I'm Adam curry. 7 00:00:23,159 --> 00:00:25,949 And I'm from the United States of America and Northern 8 00:00:25,949 --> 00:00:28,949 California where it's going to be another beautiful 70 deep 70 9 00:00:28,949 --> 00:00:32,339 degrees on February. And I'm John C. Dvorak. 10 00:00:32,369 --> 00:00:35,459 And I can't pretend John I can't pretend that we didn't just 11 00:00:35,459 --> 00:00:38,489 start the whole show over again because something went wrong 12 00:00:38,489 --> 00:00:39,929 with the recording I just gotta let 13 00:00:40,740 --> 00:00:42,990 you put a new rig together and apparently the things that 14 00:00:42,990 --> 00:00:43,530 Junker 15 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,050 well it's not but it's you know, when you're on the cutting edge 16 00:00:46,050 --> 00:00:49,200 of technology and that's essentially exactly where I live 17 00:00:49,230 --> 00:00:51,750 Yeah, of course you get cut all the time because I'm living on 18 00:00:51,750 --> 00:00:55,800 the edge of what software can do with the hardware available and 19 00:00:55,830 --> 00:01:03,960 it's so close and yet so far yes so far away and getting better 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,740 but the it's you said to sound like I had a loose wire but it's 21 00:01:07,740 --> 00:01:12,090 not it's the software breaking up and the CPU load is going up 22 00:01:12,090 --> 00:01:14,640 something is dragging down system resource. I know what the 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,850 hell is going on, but it's upsetting to say the least. 24 00:01:18,900 --> 00:01:23,430 Yeah, I gotta Well, I suppose my rig as it were is just it looks 25 00:01:23,430 --> 00:01:25,440 like a nest it looks like a rat's nest. 26 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,080 You mean with wires and shit? Oh, there's 27 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,990 wires everywhere. So stuff on the floor. I can't I can't even 28 00:01:30,990 --> 00:01:33,450 vacuum in here because it will suck the wires up and then 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,100 disconnect something. It's just a mess. 30 00:01:35,129 --> 00:01:36,299 I found part of the problem. 31 00:01:36,329 --> 00:01:37,109 I don't know what to do. 32 00:01:37,170 --> 00:01:41,460 Part of the problem is Firefox. Sucking up resources that have 33 00:01:41,460 --> 00:01:44,790 you tried Firefox three? Yeah, well, but I need a browser 34 00:01:44,790 --> 00:01:48,300 during the show don't I? Know I don't think so. When we're 35 00:01:48,300 --> 00:01:51,600 talking about stuff I want to be able to bring up Okay, careful 36 00:01:51,599 --> 00:01:54,149 that Firefox doesn't lock onto one of those sites that starts 37 00:01:54,149 --> 00:01:56,819 you know, where it's I've had situations where I've killed 38 00:01:56,819 --> 00:02:00,689 Firefox, and this machine still grinding away. And then I go 39 00:02:00,689 --> 00:02:04,259 look at the Task Manager with the Ctrl Alt Delete in Firefox 40 00:02:04,259 --> 00:02:04,349 and 41 00:02:04,350 --> 00:02:06,750 there's still so be running go running. Yeah, I've had that 42 00:02:06,750 --> 00:02:07,140 happen 43 00:02:07,170 --> 00:02:09,720 doing what I love. I know man. 44 00:02:11,069 --> 00:02:16,589 They come out with with a new version version three. I love 45 00:02:16,589 --> 00:02:19,109 that. Oh, that was straight from the heart, John. Oh, 46 00:02:20,550 --> 00:02:24,570 it's you know, luckily, they upgraded it to beta three, which 47 00:02:24,570 --> 00:02:27,690 is a little better. But this still has this weird problem, 48 00:02:27,690 --> 00:02:31,980 which gives you an error message I blogged this I believe it says 49 00:02:32,010 --> 00:02:39,600 divorce.org/blog It says we are going from a encrypted page or 50 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:44,340 secure whatever it is page to an unencrypted page. Yeah. It gives 51 00:02:44,340 --> 00:02:45,180 you a big message 52 00:02:45,210 --> 00:02:49,590 and that okay? This warning, Please be informed about this. 53 00:02:49,620 --> 00:02:50,490 And you say no, 54 00:02:51,750 --> 00:02:57,240 no, it doesn't give you the no option. It just asked you if you 55 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,910 want to affirm what they're already doing, which is 56 00:02:59,910 --> 00:03:01,320 interrupting your session. 57 00:03:01,979 --> 00:03:04,439 We can't get rid of it. God can't get rid of it. 58 00:03:04,949 --> 00:03:07,169 No, you kidding me? 59 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,630 Anyway, so I don't know what they're thinking. 60 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,250 So we talked about Valentine's Day briefly. Yeah, we started 61 00:03:17,250 --> 00:03:17,550 off here. 62 00:03:18,180 --> 00:03:20,160 This was the show part of the show everyone missed it was 63 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,260 actually quite good. Maybe the best stuff we've ever done. 64 00:03:22,770 --> 00:03:26,670 But it's gone. Sorry, it's gone forever. History 65 00:03:26,669 --> 00:03:30,209 you did ask about Valentine's Day saying and you implied that 66 00:03:30,209 --> 00:03:32,789 I wasn't a big stick in the mud and probably wouldn't take part 67 00:03:32,789 --> 00:03:35,849 in this phoney baloney holiday because I'm a cynic. Yes, but I 68 00:03:36,209 --> 00:03:40,019 I told you that I did take part which I did by sending an SMS 69 00:03:40,019 --> 00:03:43,679 message to my wife because it was the biggest is a world 70 00:03:43,679 --> 00:03:47,069 record breaking day for SMS messages as predicted by the 71 00:03:47,069 --> 00:03:51,569 phone companies something like 2.5 billion messages were sent 72 00:03:52,019 --> 00:03:53,249 on Valentine's Day. 73 00:03:53,759 --> 00:03:56,819 I think that's a that's a sign of the times and probably a good 74 00:03:56,819 --> 00:04:02,129 thing. Although effectively it's reduced spending because now you 75 00:04:02,129 --> 00:04:04,619 know you get away with sending a text message instead of the 76 00:04:04,619 --> 00:04:06,899 traditional flowers and chocolates 77 00:04:08,009 --> 00:04:09,059 you know or 78 00:04:09,060 --> 00:04:13,110 as I did I took my wife to the arena tour of Dancing with the 79 00:04:13,110 --> 00:04:13,740 Stars 80 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:17,940 get Wha what is that 81 00:04:18,030 --> 00:04:20,430 dancing with this you know Dancing with the Stars the TV 82 00:04:20,430 --> 00:04:24,720 show? Yeah so they in the UK it's called Strictly Come 83 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,510 Dancing with the format originated and they have an 84 00:04:27,510 --> 00:04:31,230 arena tour with a couple of the celebrity couples and a couple 85 00:04:31,230 --> 00:04:34,050 of the the judges who are normally on the TV show and they 86 00:04:34,050 --> 00:04:37,950 basically do the TV show in an arena it's it's pretty 87 00:04:37,980 --> 00:04:38,670 entertaining 88 00:04:39,630 --> 00:04:42,360 it's actually entertaining and and I just feel like a schmuck 89 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,830 sitting there watching people dance well 90 00:04:43,830 --> 00:04:47,040 no but I got into the show you know I like watching people 91 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,980 dance it's it's fun if there wasn't such a height difference 92 00:04:49,980 --> 00:04:53,280 between Patricia and I we would go dancing together I'm sure 93 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:56,760 yeah you don't dancer. 94 00:04:57,270 --> 00:05:00,240 No, I am I like to dance. I'm a natural Hey, 95 00:05:01,020 --> 00:05:02,820 how's your pasta? Doble? John is it 96 00:05:03,929 --> 00:05:06,299 when I was a kid that differences I mean, I don't do a 97 00:05:06,299 --> 00:05:10,709 lot of dancing obviously. But when I was a kid, we used to be 98 00:05:10,709 --> 00:05:13,889 required in grammar school to learn to dance. It was like one 99 00:05:13,889 --> 00:05:15,749 of these things that they don't teach kids anymore. They don't 100 00:05:15,749 --> 00:05:18,899 teach kids, the kind of the stuff that people miss out on 101 00:05:18,899 --> 00:05:21,749 this. When we were kids, we were taught how to balance 102 00:05:21,749 --> 00:05:25,169 chequebooks. We were taught civics and ethic how to tie. 103 00:05:25,889 --> 00:05:28,319 We're taught how to type we were taught penmanship, we were 104 00:05:28,319 --> 00:05:30,539 taught how to dance. And one of the things about the dancing 105 00:05:30,539 --> 00:05:35,129 was, we learned everything from square that would wonders like a 106 00:05:35,129 --> 00:05:39,419 whole year of square dancing, square dancing, Tango Mambo, 107 00:05:39,689 --> 00:05:43,439 everything is free form rock'n'roll dancing, which was, 108 00:05:43,439 --> 00:05:47,549 you know, some sort of a horrible thing to them. So you'd 109 00:05:47,549 --> 00:05:52,499 learn all this stuff in school? I don't know. They don't do that 110 00:05:52,499 --> 00:05:52,919 anymore. 111 00:05:52,950 --> 00:05:55,350 Now there's a lot of stuff. Oh, man, there's a lot of stuff they 112 00:05:55,350 --> 00:05:56,880 don't do anymore in that regard. 113 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,020 We used to have a gym class every day, you'd have to run 114 00:06:01,020 --> 00:06:04,290 around, they still have gym classes in school. They don't 115 00:06:04,290 --> 00:06:06,630 have it every day. And a lot of these schools, they don't care. 116 00:06:06,660 --> 00:06:08,220 The kids don't get enough of a workout and 117 00:06:08,220 --> 00:06:11,250 music lessons. So we had music lessons. I'm sure you had music 118 00:06:11,250 --> 00:06:13,710 lessons where you had to play like the recorder. 119 00:06:14,700 --> 00:06:17,190 That was an option you could and there's a lot of kids who did 120 00:06:17,190 --> 00:06:19,710 but nowadays is I have two music departments don't even don't 121 00:06:19,710 --> 00:06:23,640 even have them anymore. Well, of course, I don't even know what 122 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,980 the point of it is why they even send these kids to school. Well, 123 00:06:25,980 --> 00:06:26,250 no, 124 00:06:26,250 --> 00:06:29,250 it's the Department of Education wants to keep us dumb, John, you 125 00:06:29,250 --> 00:06:32,490 know that. That's how that's that's the main thrust here. 126 00:06:34,380 --> 00:06:37,860 So one of the things that people missed out on we're talking 127 00:06:37,860 --> 00:06:40,320 about, we actually will do this when it's more natural, but 128 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,280 we're talking about morning radio, and you brought up the 129 00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:47,070 fact that you didn't realise that Dennis Miller was a right 130 00:06:47,070 --> 00:06:49,260 wing talk show host so 131 00:06:49,260 --> 00:06:53,190 I made the comment, I think I kind of realised that he was 132 00:06:53,190 --> 00:06:56,460 definitely not left wing. But wasn't he on Air America for a 133 00:06:56,460 --> 00:06:56,880 while. 134 00:06:57,330 --> 00:06:59,580 I don't think he ever was on Air America. I had 135 00:06:59,580 --> 00:07:02,070 that fear. I thought he did the morning show. And then he spun 136 00:07:02,070 --> 00:07:03,870 that off into syndication. And 137 00:07:04,050 --> 00:07:06,870 well, that's really because I know nobody listened to Air 138 00:07:06,870 --> 00:07:10,260 America because it was dreadful. I mean, they didn't get it. I 139 00:07:10,260 --> 00:07:14,400 mean, and some of it was like horribly weird. I mean, I 140 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,290 listened to it. I mean, I listened to this all these 141 00:07:16,290 --> 00:07:19,380 different things. But Air America is just like, except for 142 00:07:19,380 --> 00:07:22,320 there's one woman I think that's that was a standout. And I can't 143 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,050 remember her name. And she was somewhat entertained. But 144 00:07:25,050 --> 00:07:27,420 everybody else was fawning all over each other. They were 145 00:07:27,420 --> 00:07:30,450 politically correct. They were gushing over each other. It was 146 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:30,990 pathetic. 147 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:32,850 Yeah, that doesn't work. 148 00:07:34,830 --> 00:07:38,220 So anyway, I wanted to talk about one thing this week. I 149 00:07:38,220 --> 00:07:40,650 mean, we don't I don't try to make a list normally, but since 150 00:07:40,650 --> 00:07:43,440 I was waiting, because you were uploading daily source code. 151 00:07:43,470 --> 00:07:46,440 Yeah. And trying to fix this piece of shit set up that sounds 152 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,040 like crap and is gonna make us unhappy with the actual show. 153 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:50,550 Yes. 154 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,510 It doesn't sound that bad. Anyway, so I, when I was in New 155 00:07:54,510 --> 00:07:57,270 York the last time and I just I was sitting here waiting, I 156 00:07:57,270 --> 00:08:00,030 decided to do a little research on this. So when I was in New 157 00:08:00,030 --> 00:08:04,350 York last week, or a couple of weeks ago, I went to the place I 158 00:08:04,350 --> 00:08:06,900 always go when I'm in New York, which is in Manhattan, 159 00:08:06,900 --> 00:08:10,260 specifically is which is the century 21. Department store 160 00:08:10,260 --> 00:08:11,220 downtown. Oh, I 161 00:08:11,220 --> 00:08:14,400 love that place. You can get all kinds of brand name clothing 162 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,120 really cheap. 163 00:08:17,310 --> 00:08:19,740 So true or not true or not. 164 00:08:20,580 --> 00:08:24,210 from Long Island the way you're delivering, but it's true. Yeah, 165 00:08:24,210 --> 00:08:27,930 no, it's absolutely true. It's a it's an amazing place. Anyway, 166 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,840 so I so I'm going through there and one of the things I always 167 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,390 do they have a lot of collectible ties, dirt cheap 168 00:08:33,390 --> 00:08:36,720 from big designers and I have a tight collection even though I 169 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:41,430 don't use them much nowadays, because ties are not in but so I 170 00:08:41,430 --> 00:08:44,520 walk in by the to leave and then there's a success and I could 171 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,610 use some some more socks and I was looking at the they have 172 00:08:47,610 --> 00:08:50,790 this bowl toe which is the you know this big brand of socks all 173 00:08:50,790 --> 00:08:51,450 over the US 174 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,120 that's the sock Goldco gotta have it. 175 00:08:55,260 --> 00:09:02,190 And they had cashmere, a three pack of cashmere gold toes for 176 00:09:02,190 --> 00:09:05,940 like $4 for three for three pair and it was marked down from like 177 00:09:05,940 --> 00:09:10,740 50 bucks or something. So I said, Wow, I gotta buy these. So 178 00:09:10,740 --> 00:09:13,200 I bought a set. And of course now I realise why they were 179 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:18,420 marked down to $4 and irregulars are messed up. Now it's like I 180 00:09:18,450 --> 00:09:21,870 fact I have them on now. This is what brought to mind. They're 181 00:09:21,870 --> 00:09:25,200 really soft. And you can if you stick your hand into a pile of 182 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:31,110 socks, you can literally find the socks by feel alone. Except 183 00:09:31,110 --> 00:09:33,720 that when you put them on because of the nature of 184 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,680 cashmere, it's it's like it doesn't have any structure. And 185 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:41,490 so the sod basically falls apart on your foot. And it's like 186 00:09:41,490 --> 00:09:45,420 they're upside down within just a couple of minutes. You know, 187 00:09:45,420 --> 00:09:48,060 they just don't they're not snug. They can't stay there. 188 00:09:48,060 --> 00:09:53,310 It's just a it's a disaster. So, but but in the process since I 189 00:09:53,310 --> 00:09:55,620 was waiting for you to finish the source code, I look up 190 00:09:55,770 --> 00:09:59,490 obviously gold toasts. What is the history of this company and 191 00:09:59,490 --> 00:10:02,790 is it appear Only a company that was the great American Knitting 192 00:10:02,790 --> 00:10:05,940 Mills. And they started making socks, like, you know, before 193 00:10:05,940 --> 00:10:11,190 the depression, and they still make these gold toe socks in 194 00:10:11,190 --> 00:10:13,680 North Carolina. They're not a Chinese product. And I realised 195 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:15,840 is one of the last things we still make in this country 196 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,730 are socks, socks, we make we make ammo and socks, everybody 197 00:10:20,730 --> 00:10:22,050 that's that's our claim to fame. 198 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,130 Yes, we make bombs and we make socks. And I couldn't find any 199 00:10:26,130 --> 00:10:29,520 evidence of the I have outsourced the sock making. And 200 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,010 they've exactly expanded somewhat. And, 201 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,800 well, the sock business, you know, it's like, what was the 202 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,230 line? Plastic son? That's the future? 203 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,420 Well, socks apparently are too. But anyway, so the gold toe is a 204 00:10:42,420 --> 00:10:46,110 really an outstanding product, I think because I mean, I realised 205 00:10:46,110 --> 00:10:49,170 that most of my socks, probably 90% of them are black and gold 206 00:10:49,170 --> 00:10:51,750 toe socks. And you know, sometimes there's a mix and 207 00:10:51,750 --> 00:10:54,120 match problem because they do have longer ones and shorter 208 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,780 ones, and some that have slightly different combination 209 00:10:57,780 --> 00:11:00,330 of fabrics. But do you? 210 00:11:00,690 --> 00:11:03,660 Do you do your own laundry? Do you wash your own socks? 211 00:11:05,310 --> 00:11:09,570 Generally speaking, yes. Except sometimes if the bunch of 212 00:11:09,570 --> 00:11:15,510 laundry gets backed up. There's a couple of services that I just 213 00:11:15,510 --> 00:11:19,890 take, I just pile everything into a truck and drop it off 214 00:11:19,890 --> 00:11:22,530 there. And then I get it all sorted it because you know what 215 00:11:22,530 --> 00:11:24,990 happens with the socks? Of course, if anybody knows, 216 00:11:24,990 --> 00:11:27,750 especially if you do your own laundry, is that you end up with 217 00:11:27,750 --> 00:11:33,090 I have a box of about 150 single socks that have no mate. 218 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,840 Exactly. This is where I was going. Because I whenever I come 219 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,770 back from San Francisco, I almost every single time I do 220 00:11:40,770 --> 00:11:44,400 the laundry, and because that really scores big here at home. 221 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,960 And man, those socks, it's like you got to have like a spot 222 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,390 where you can lay them all out. You can look at him you can 223 00:11:51,420 --> 00:11:54,750 because I'm a little colorblind. And it's hard, man. It's hard to 224 00:11:54,750 --> 00:11:57,660 find the matches, and then always is like, wait a minute, 225 00:11:57,660 --> 00:12:02,430 I'm fucking missing one. One. Yeah, but every laundry is like, 226 00:12:02,790 --> 00:12:06,660 well, well, I won't go into the Word of the SOCO routine. But 227 00:12:07,380 --> 00:12:07,560 well, 228 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:09,720 that's the thing that's cool about gold toes is that you just 229 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,450 keep buying them. Costco has them and just keep buying them 230 00:12:12,450 --> 00:12:14,580 and buy them and then pretty soon, yeah, okay, so I'm missing 231 00:12:14,580 --> 00:12:19,230 a lot of socks, but I have a lot of combinations of the same, you 232 00:12:19,230 --> 00:12:22,740 know, two gold toes that happened to be black. And, you 233 00:12:22,740 --> 00:12:25,200 know, eventually I made but it's still I'm still tempted, 234 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,410 unfortunately, to like, especially when it's century 21. 235 00:12:28,410 --> 00:12:31,110 I go by, like, there'll be like the sock rack. And they'll be 236 00:12:31,110 --> 00:12:34,890 like a really cool looking pair of socks that are made by you 237 00:12:34,890 --> 00:12:38,790 know, some designer, Donna Karan. And so you grab the pair 238 00:12:38,820 --> 00:12:41,250 because one of these are cool. And you wear them a couple of 239 00:12:41,250 --> 00:12:43,380 times, and you always lose one of the two. And that's the end 240 00:12:43,380 --> 00:12:46,230 of it, you know, there's one sock is just as loner. And then 241 00:12:46,230 --> 00:12:49,110 the worst part is, is that one side gets into one batch of 242 00:12:49,110 --> 00:12:51,300 laundry and the other side gets into another batch of laundry. 243 00:12:51,300 --> 00:12:52,110 And for some reason, 244 00:12:52,230 --> 00:12:55,200 the other out of sync, they're out of sync, they're out of sync 245 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:55,650 because one 246 00:12:55,650 --> 00:12:58,110 of them is soaked up some colour from one of the batches and you 247 00:12:58,110 --> 00:13:00,090 hold the two of them up. They don't even look the same 248 00:13:00,090 --> 00:13:03,210 anymore. It's like, you know, this is a dilemma of modern 249 00:13:03,210 --> 00:13:04,050 life. Yeah, 250 00:13:04,470 --> 00:13:05,280 fuck I hate it. 251 00:13:06,750 --> 00:13:09,300 No, really, I wish I could just have all the same socks and it 252 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:10,440 would make any difference. 253 00:13:10,470 --> 00:13:14,070 Oh, you know that you can see that? Just by gold toes. So 254 00:13:14,070 --> 00:13:16,710 anyway, I was thinking about that. And I did that you can go 255 00:13:16,710 --> 00:13:20,160 to gold toes.com. Of course, if you want to look at the history 256 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,620 of this company look right. And I also found that they had sued 257 00:13:22,620 --> 00:13:27,090 some they're one of the first companies that had sued in 2000 258 00:13:27,090 --> 00:13:31,170 they sued gold dash toes.com and some other derivative name 259 00:13:31,650 --> 00:13:36,600 through icon the internet naming guys. And one one of the first 260 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,080 cases of like, beating a squatter out of the name because 261 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,280 it wasn't theirs to have. 262 00:13:41,730 --> 00:13:44,400 What's the address? It's not gold toes.com 263 00:13:44,730 --> 00:13:46,260 Try gold toe.com Then 264 00:13:46,290 --> 00:13:47,190 go toe. 265 00:13:49,740 --> 00:13:52,320 Can't believe I'm actually doing this. Oh, there you go. 266 00:13:52,410 --> 00:13:57,210 enlighten your feet. Now 25% off. 267 00:13:57,810 --> 00:14:01,260 Now I'm reminded that I don't want to jump into gonna take the 268 00:14:01,260 --> 00:14:03,690 conversation off in this direction because of the 269 00:14:03,690 --> 00:14:07,740 underwear. But the I'm reminded the first time I went to England 270 00:14:07,740 --> 00:14:14,010 was in 1973. And I met somebody on the Dunkirk fairy actually 271 00:14:14,010 --> 00:14:18,240 who I was hanging out with this girl. And she turned me on to 272 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,140 the AI to the concept and then I checked it out from other people 273 00:14:22,500 --> 00:14:30,420 that the place to get underwear specifically. briefs was Marks 274 00:14:30,420 --> 00:14:34,980 and Spencer. Yeah. Which which for some reason is called marks 275 00:14:34,980 --> 00:14:38,580 and sparks as a as a diminutive and I don't have any idea where 276 00:14:38,580 --> 00:14:40,740 that comes from. But anyway, that's what locals call it. 277 00:14:40,740 --> 00:14:40,890 Yeah, 278 00:14:40,890 --> 00:14:42,930 that's what we call it here marks and sparks is it just 279 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,040 rhymes. That's why. 280 00:14:45,060 --> 00:14:47,790 Well, whatever the case it's a huge chain and I don't think the 281 00:14:47,790 --> 00:14:51,000 quality is what it was back in the 70s By the way, but anyway, 282 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:56,460 they would have you could buy this underwear briefs. and I 283 00:14:56,460 --> 00:14:59,730 were you know, briefs as opposed to boxer shorts. 284 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,900 I information that really didn't need a made, 285 00:15:03,930 --> 00:15:07,530 they're made with Egyptian cotton. And the stuff is 286 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,820 unbelievable. Now over over the years, they've expanded and you 287 00:15:11,820 --> 00:15:14,430 can find some of these briefs that aren't made with Egyptian 288 00:15:14,430 --> 00:15:16,320 cotton, although the Israeli stuff looks pretty good, but 289 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,660 there's stuff I've seen now from all over the place in some of 290 00:15:18,660 --> 00:15:22,680 the bands break that stuff, it's the quality has gone way 291 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,670 downhill. But back in the 70s, when they were the peak of their 292 00:15:26,670 --> 00:15:33,210 quality time, they also had a T shirts that they sold, 293 00:15:33,420 --> 00:15:35,970 specifically, and they don't do this anymore. By the way, you 294 00:15:35,970 --> 00:15:40,380 can't find this any more than I know, have. They had wool T 295 00:15:40,380 --> 00:15:46,530 shirts. Now I bought a couple of them, I still have them, they 296 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,910 they're still you wouldn't even know they're this old. It's, it 297 00:15:50,910 --> 00:15:53,760 was an unbelievable product. I think if the if they had kept 298 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,550 making wool T shirts, the t shirt business, there wouldn't 299 00:15:56,550 --> 00:15:59,460 be a t shirt business because these things, I guess can go 300 00:15:59,460 --> 00:16:02,520 5060 years without wearing out. It's It's an unbelievable 301 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:03,060 product. 302 00:16:03,090 --> 00:16:07,050 Well, yeah, but you know, I hate to do it to you. But that's all 303 00:16:07,050 --> 00:16:11,550 part of the consumption. Theory, John, we've got to make products 304 00:16:11,550 --> 00:16:15,630 that break early. Hence, T shirts made of right, but 305 00:16:15,630 --> 00:16:19,860 they they The point is, is that they used to make a product that 306 00:16:19,860 --> 00:16:24,090 didn't break at all. And that was no good t shirt. And the 307 00:16:24,090 --> 00:16:25,890 underwear for that matter, you know, some of those that 308 00:16:25,890 --> 00:16:29,400 underwear from that. I mean, it was just amazing. I mean, this 309 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,890 stuff was just last like forever. And now of course, you 310 00:16:31,890 --> 00:16:35,160 know, this stuff is made in India, it's not as good 311 00:16:35,250 --> 00:16:38,790 when, when Ron and I had our previous company, think new 312 00:16:38,790 --> 00:16:45,180 ideas. We were part of the a bunch of agencies that launched 313 00:16:45,450 --> 00:16:49,800 the new Gillette Mach three razor. And they had this huge 314 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,260 briefing at Gillette headquarters, and nearly all the 315 00:16:52,260 --> 00:16:54,960 agencies were there. And you know, they went through the, you 316 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,630 know, they showed that, you know, the pack, the product pack 317 00:16:57,630 --> 00:16:59,970 and all this stuff, you know, stuff that you really don't care 318 00:16:59,970 --> 00:17:02,430 about too much, because we just wanted to build a cool website 319 00:17:02,910 --> 00:17:07,740 was in Flash anime animation. But at one point, someone they 320 00:17:07,740 --> 00:17:10,110 talked about the blades because they had this new diamond 321 00:17:10,110 --> 00:17:15,060 encrusted platinum, something or other. And someone in the, in 322 00:17:15,060 --> 00:17:17,580 the basically this auditorium, one of the people of the agency 323 00:17:17,580 --> 00:17:21,330 said, oh, so we can talk about these blades and how much better 324 00:17:21,330 --> 00:17:24,060 they are and longer they last and was like, boom, complete 325 00:17:24,060 --> 00:17:28,170 silence. And then now the Chief Marketing Officer of Gillette 326 00:17:28,170 --> 00:17:34,890 says, We never, ever, ever talk about how long our blades last. 327 00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:38,640 We have a nice little coloured strip on top, which could be an 328 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,490 indication for you as to when you might want to get a new 329 00:17:41,490 --> 00:17:44,820 blade, but we never ever talk about how long the blades last. 330 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,910 And I know people who have used the same blade for years, I've 331 00:17:47,910 --> 00:17:50,910 never gotten a replacement. And it still kind of works. 332 00:17:51,570 --> 00:17:55,380 Well you know, there's there used to be kind of in the in the 333 00:17:55,380 --> 00:18:00,870 folklore of the consumer world, a belief and I think it's I 334 00:18:00,870 --> 00:18:04,260 think it may be true that when they came out when they come out 335 00:18:04,260 --> 00:18:07,440 with a new razor, whether it's shake or Gillette or whomever 336 00:18:08,340 --> 00:18:12,510 the razor that you get when the new one comes out is so sharp, 337 00:18:12,990 --> 00:18:15,960 that you could use it probably forever and it's the replacement 338 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,740 blades that they start to dull down like someone said they just 339 00:18:19,740 --> 00:18:23,100 turned down the knob and they made they make them less and 340 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:25,830 less sharp so they don't work as long as to get people to go to 341 00:18:25,830 --> 00:18:31,410 the next new new razor. So I generally only buy with you I 342 00:18:31,410 --> 00:18:34,020 usually buy complete replacements so I buy the razor 343 00:18:34,020 --> 00:18:37,590 with a couple of blades brand new, and I believe I could be 344 00:18:37,590 --> 00:18:42,120 wrong, but I believe that those blades and that razor brand new 345 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:45,600 are going to last longer than buying replacement blades for 346 00:18:45,930 --> 00:18:48,390 any of the razors even though it costs maybe three a couple of 347 00:18:48,450 --> 00:18:51,090 two or three bucks more to get another razor so I end up 348 00:18:51,090 --> 00:18:52,290 throwing a lot of razors out 349 00:18:52,290 --> 00:18:54,930 to what kind of razor Do you what brand What do you use? 350 00:18:55,140 --> 00:18:58,950 i Right now I'm using the Gillette the one with the four 351 00:18:58,950 --> 00:19:02,490 things in that little trimmer deal. It's a five bladed deal 352 00:19:03,090 --> 00:19:06,300 it's got Yeah, it's got you know it's got a million blades 353 00:19:06,780 --> 00:19:09,000 and that's the one that vibrates or do you get the non 354 00:19:09,690 --> 00:19:12,060 vibrating one just seemed kind of creepy to me. 355 00:19:12,060 --> 00:19:14,850 I didn't get it works for me. I really think there's a different 356 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:21,060 vibrator. John, that's my job and who's making the jokes 357 00:19:21,060 --> 00:19:22,980 around here. Ah, dammit. 358 00:19:24,060 --> 00:19:27,810 This is my take well up or English version. Matthew Pugin 359 00:19:27,810 --> 00:19:33,570 calling from Slovenia. I'm looking to BSE and no agenda and 360 00:19:33,570 --> 00:19:38,580 the last time you had no agenda with John C. Dvorak. You made me 361 00:19:38,580 --> 00:19:43,710 really love. Actually he did. He was commenting about Slovenia 362 00:19:43,710 --> 00:19:47,760 and how we eat shitload of horses here. And actually it's 363 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:52,530 true to certain extent, and where we eat a lot of it and 364 00:19:52,530 --> 00:19:56,280 yes, we don't talk a lot about it. Unless I'm purchase such as 365 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:03,300 yours. Know that each city has have sort of a fast food thing 366 00:20:03,300 --> 00:20:08,040 that you go after clubbing like late Saturday night early Sunday 367 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,100 morning like the bar or something. While in Ljubljana, 368 00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:14,820 the capital of Slovenia, we have a thing called Hot horse. And 369 00:20:14,820 --> 00:20:18,750 it's actually the thing where all the clovers end up at 567 370 00:20:18,750 --> 00:20:22,320 AM. And you guessed from the name what they're serving hot 371 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,830 horse. Anyway 31 372 00:20:28,530 --> 00:20:32,160 I loved it hot horse. There's an actual fast food joint called 373 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,440 hot hot horse where they sell horse meat 374 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,550 in there and they said to me, Hey, John, we're gonna go club 375 00:20:38,550 --> 00:20:41,610 and then afterwards we're gonna get some hot whores. Oh, 376 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:42,780 you misunderstood. 377 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,320 Yeah, now you're talking baby. 378 00:20:47,010 --> 00:20:51,420 So I was a little surprised and dismayed. So the other the other 379 00:20:51,420 --> 00:20:54,000 thing I want to mention about Slovenia since we have the one 380 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,140 listener, and I find that I find this to be kind of interesting 381 00:20:58,140 --> 00:21:01,170 and actually Slovenia in lots of parts of Croatian, most of that, 382 00:21:01,350 --> 00:21:05,760 that Adriatic area. What's notable when you're driving 383 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:10,110 around the area is the number of chickens that are just out and 384 00:21:10,110 --> 00:21:14,700 about. I guess they don't quite have the same kind of predators 385 00:21:14,700 --> 00:21:18,150 out there that we might have here. But it's interesting to me 386 00:21:18,150 --> 00:21:19,800 that they have all these chickens that we have chickens 387 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,200 up in Washington, and we've actually had chickens in the bay 388 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,170 area you can have chickens legally, and you chicken eggs 389 00:21:25,170 --> 00:21:27,930 that are made from chickens are just roaming around the yard are 390 00:21:27,930 --> 00:21:32,580 astonishingly delicious, and they taste like a real egg. And 391 00:21:32,580 --> 00:21:35,160 it's amazing chickens can crank out this many A's but it seems 392 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,680 to me that the Slovenians in particular must eat a lot of 393 00:21:37,710 --> 00:21:41,130 eggs because those chickens they all they're all around but then 394 00:21:41,130 --> 00:21:44,430 they obviously go home to roost at night and then they lay eggs 395 00:21:44,430 --> 00:21:47,490 all over the place I would think and but it's just I thought it 396 00:21:47,490 --> 00:21:50,400 was just cool to just see nothing but everybody's chickens 397 00:21:50,430 --> 00:21:53,910 there's no fences around a lot of their places at all and it 398 00:21:53,910 --> 00:21:56,700 just chickens everywhere you drive along the road to be 399 00:21:56,700 --> 00:21:59,040 chickens everywhere it's it's pretty funny. 400 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,330 Well, I've never been to Slovenia but we'd love it 401 00:22:04,350 --> 00:22:07,110 certainly sounds like a good place to go for chickens in 402 00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:07,560 horse 403 00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:15,960 the horse yeah but the actually where what they have there 404 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,170 that's pretty astonishing is pastries. I don't think there's 405 00:22:19,170 --> 00:22:19,350 a 406 00:22:19,500 --> 00:22:22,290 What were you doing in Slovenia? John? What how were you there? 407 00:22:22,770 --> 00:22:25,830 Yeah, I went to I've actually been through Slovenia a few 408 00:22:25,830 --> 00:22:28,560 times because I write for bug magazine and Croatia for one 409 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,780 thing and so that's on the other side of Slovenia so you really 410 00:22:30,780 --> 00:22:35,100 can't get there on the train without going through Slovenia. 411 00:22:35,670 --> 00:22:40,020 And but the first time I went there was when PC Magazine had a 412 00:22:40,020 --> 00:22:44,670 licensee in Slovenia because the guys in Croatia had lost a 413 00:22:44,670 --> 00:22:47,640 licence in PC Magazine sold at this publishing company in 414 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,310 Slovenia and I went there for the party that they were rolling 415 00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:53,400 out and so I got to you know, kind of party as it were in 416 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,640 Slovenia with a hot host. Meanwhile, of course because of 417 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,040 that the bug magazine could hire me because there was no 418 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,430 licencing in Croatian so I ended up getting kind of another gig 419 00:23:02,430 --> 00:23:05,850 there so meanwhile, I've made pretty good friends and Croatia 420 00:23:05,850 --> 00:23:10,020 is another place that people want to go to a vacation just a 421 00:23:10,020 --> 00:23:13,200 dream come true vacations by Wow That country is unbelievable. 422 00:23:13,230 --> 00:23:15,390 I've heard that and actually we're thinking of going to 423 00:23:15,390 --> 00:23:17,700 Turkey next time next time 424 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:21,660 to Turkey Turkey is getting a little rough it seems to me 425 00:23:21,690 --> 00:23:27,000 really although For you it might not be so much there is a an 426 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,010 Istanbul there's a four seasons 427 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,450 as long as there's a four seasons and marks and sparks 428 00:23:33,450 --> 00:23:35,130 nearby we're set not a problem. 429 00:23:36,540 --> 00:23:39,480 So you could go to the Four Seasons and kind of enjoy it 430 00:23:39,900 --> 00:23:41,370 from that perspective. 431 00:23:44,010 --> 00:23:45,750 I don't know I don't I don't know when either 432 00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:47,550 way you're gonna buy a couple rugs we'll get ready. 433 00:23:47,700 --> 00:23:51,210 No, no, no, I won't buy why we went to a rack same thing. I 434 00:23:51,210 --> 00:23:53,610 didn't buy any rugs. They got plenty of them for sale. 435 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,690 Yeah, no, they got tonnes of them for sale. I bought two rugs 436 00:23:57,690 --> 00:24:00,240 when I was in Turkey. And what was interesting to buy and by 437 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,000 the way the rug salesmen follow you over here that's how 438 00:24:03,150 --> 00:24:05,940 aggressive they are. They literally they follow you they 439 00:24:05,940 --> 00:24:09,840 write I get called once a year from one of the rug companies 440 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,740 over the turkey that they did come into the US they got an out 441 00:24:13,740 --> 00:24:16,470 they got to store house somewhere in outside of Beverly 442 00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:19,260 Hills and they drive a truck around to all their customers. 443 00:24:19,710 --> 00:24:23,550 And they pass you to buy more rugs some unbelievable Bobby 444 00:24:23,550 --> 00:24:28,050 Reggie and need crazy. It's pretty funny. But the weird 445 00:24:28,050 --> 00:24:30,210 thing is that they can fold these rugs up into them and put 446 00:24:30,210 --> 00:24:33,150 them in this weird little suitcases that you can carry on 447 00:24:33,150 --> 00:24:35,490 the plane because that's the way you want to ship. Do you want to 448 00:24:35,490 --> 00:24:39,300 bring the rug back by hand? Carry on? Oh, man, 449 00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:41,460 you know that you're just asking for trouble with today's 450 00:24:41,490 --> 00:24:42,540 security measures. 451 00:24:44,670 --> 00:24:46,230 You check it check luggage. 452 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,390 Yeah. So you okay, I have a problem. Okay, well, 453 00:24:51,419 --> 00:24:53,699 maybe I will. I mean, I can't 454 00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:57,600 wait by the way. Monday is my time again. 455 00:24:59,220 --> 00:25:01,050 Oh, yeah, right. You're going The back. So you're gonna go 456 00:25:01,050 --> 00:25:03,210 through another process, but you're coming into San Francisco 457 00:25:03,210 --> 00:25:03,660 again, right? 458 00:25:03,690 --> 00:25:05,940 Yeah. Which is always the easier airport, but you know, I'm gonna 459 00:25:05,940 --> 00:25:09,060 get stopped, you're gonna get the W or the M or whatever the 460 00:25:09,060 --> 00:25:09,600 hell it is. 461 00:25:09,630 --> 00:25:12,690 Yeah, well, why don't you not go to San Francisco? Once you're 462 00:25:12,690 --> 00:25:15,360 flying to LA and then come up? There? Thanks. So 463 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,920 we're going to a website, 464 00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:19,830 I think a website describing the different airport entry 465 00:25:19,860 --> 00:25:23,880 procedures. That's actually not a bad idea. Yeah, and it would 466 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,700 tell people what to avoid. And you know, it'd be nice if you 467 00:25:26,700 --> 00:25:29,400 could serve Tisha Slee take pictures of people, but you 468 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,200 know, they throw you out if you do that. But I was always told 469 00:25:35,130 --> 00:25:40,650 by rule, do not go to the woman customs officer, or passport 470 00:25:40,650 --> 00:25:43,350 officer. Just don't do it never go to the woman. 471 00:25:43,860 --> 00:25:46,950 There aren't that many in San Francisco. I think it's mainly 472 00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:50,010 guys, and maybe one or two women. But I think it's all 473 00:25:50,010 --> 00:25:50,520 guys. 474 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,930 Yeah, I think San Francisco is not at issue. But there's some 475 00:25:54,930 --> 00:25:57,450 places where there's quite a few women. And then you the rule is 476 00:25:57,450 --> 00:26:02,490 do not go to the women. And the reason is, because they they go 477 00:26:02,490 --> 00:26:03,690 by the book more than the men do. 478 00:26:04,890 --> 00:26:07,620 That sounds pretty, pretty. That's a pretty generous 479 00:26:07,620 --> 00:26:08,370 statement. 480 00:26:08,850 --> 00:26:11,580 I'm just telling you what I'm told. I don't necessarily agree 481 00:26:11,580 --> 00:26:15,510 with it. Okay. You don't go to the women. Your reliability is 482 00:26:15,870 --> 00:26:21,930 on the safe side. All right. So I got my stuff out of the way 483 00:26:21,930 --> 00:26:24,420 got the chicken story, I needed to get that out of the way. That 484 00:26:24,420 --> 00:26:25,110 was important. 485 00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:27,810 I didn't get to do my top 40 thing again. 486 00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:31,620 You mean the voice? Yeah, that's all right. I 487 00:26:31,620 --> 00:26:33,930 don't want to do the voice. Because when you hear this show, 488 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,570 you're gonna hear how should you're going to hear how shitty 489 00:26:36,570 --> 00:26:40,110 this sounds. And it's just, it's pissing me off. I can't 490 00:26:40,110 --> 00:26:42,150 concentrate. I can't even concentrate on doing the show. 491 00:26:42,420 --> 00:26:44,520 Because I'm hearing all this crackling. And I don't know 492 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,830 where it's coming from. And I don't understand it. And it's, 493 00:26:47,460 --> 00:26:52,080 why did you change your gear? Because I'm tired of having to 494 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,770 have a second, like two laptops, one to work on, which is the Mac 495 00:26:55,770 --> 00:26:58,770 and then the only thing that was really reliable up until now was 496 00:26:58,770 --> 00:27:00,840 CASP. blaster, and I had to have a secondary, you know, like 497 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,410 windows? Yeah, I know, I can run parallels or bootcamp or all 498 00:27:04,410 --> 00:27:07,680 that crap. I just wanted it all in one and I wanted you know, I 499 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,770 wanted something where the processing is in the computer 500 00:27:10,770 --> 00:27:13,380 cast blaster doesn't have that. You have to, you know, there's 501 00:27:13,380 --> 00:27:16,770 no, there's no digital processing. For this very 502 00:27:16,770 --> 00:27:20,640 reason, of course, because it always starts to mysteriously 503 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,100 Android. It could also be the hard drive. You know, Mac hard 504 00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:26,670 drives can get sick if you use really big files a lot. 505 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:29,340 So you're telling me you're doing this? This is the first 506 00:27:29,370 --> 00:27:31,350 time we've done no agenda on a Mac? 507 00:27:31,380 --> 00:27:33,180 No, no, no, we did it last time. 508 00:27:34,110 --> 00:27:35,850 But no, what's changed? I don't 509 00:27:35,850 --> 00:27:40,950 know. It's that's a big, big mystery. And it's, it's it's 510 00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:41,820 stupefying. 511 00:27:42,330 --> 00:27:44,850 Have you had an upgrade? Because Apple had a couple of upgrades, 512 00:27:45,090 --> 00:27:46,800 like notice last week? Oh, that's 513 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,210 a good point. John. Fuck. There was this it was this week? I 514 00:27:51,210 --> 00:28:01,590 think. So So Oh, dude. Well, that's it, then. How do I roll 515 00:28:01,590 --> 00:28:05,430 back? How do I roll back and update? I don't I don't think I 516 00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:10,620 can. You could do it on Windows, you can roll back. Yeah. If 517 00:28:10,620 --> 00:28:12,030 you're John C. Dvorak, you can 518 00:28:12,060 --> 00:28:14,460 No, no, anyone can just it's designed in? 519 00:28:17,130 --> 00:28:20,760 Well, I guess, I guess I could go to my Time Machine Backup and 520 00:28:20,790 --> 00:28:23,040 Restore. But that seems like that's going to be out that 521 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:23,700 would be a whole week. 522 00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:26,670 I wonder if that actually works to that extreme where it 523 00:28:26,670 --> 00:28:31,590 actually takes and read and takes the operating system and 524 00:28:31,620 --> 00:28:33,180 backs it up? I don't think so. But what's 525 00:28:33,180 --> 00:28:36,990 crazy, John is I just did the daily source code. And I 526 00:28:37,020 --> 00:28:39,780 everything was completely tuned and tweaked and it was all 527 00:28:39,780 --> 00:28:43,620 perfect. And then we start doing the show and it's all messed up. 528 00:28:43,710 --> 00:28:44,550 I don't get it. 529 00:28:45,870 --> 00:28:48,660 Maybe the daily source code contaminated the machine. 530 00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:52,890 Now I'm seeing if it's because I added you I'm seeing if that's 531 00:28:52,890 --> 00:28:58,740 it, but now daily source code contaminate the machine. Fuck 532 00:28:58,740 --> 00:28:59,130 you. 533 00:28:59,550 --> 00:29:00,540 That took you a while? 534 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,020 Yeah. Wow. That's how distracted I am. This is really bugging 535 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:04,530 God. 536 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,290 Why don't we put a stopwatch on? Yeah. 537 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,020 All right. So I'm gonna try and do cranky geeks with you on 538 00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:11,670 Wednesday. Is that the deal for this week? 539 00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:14,220 I would hope so. Yeah, that'd be good. Because we're gonna have 540 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,060 Leo currently scheduled and you should be on and that would 541 00:29:18,750 --> 00:29:21,870 kind of be a fun show. Yeah. And I 542 00:29:22,350 --> 00:29:25,140 don't read the memo and don't read the news. 543 00:29:25,169 --> 00:29:28,529 i Oh, what do you mean, I always come prepared. I'll read the 544 00:29:28,529 --> 00:29:28,919 memo. 545 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,170 Well, you're the only one because I don't so it's 546 00:29:31,170 --> 00:29:34,110 so Sebastian Sebastian is always on the show, right? 547 00:29:34,590 --> 00:29:37,950 Yes, he's the He's the number one go to guy. Okay. Cool. This 548 00:29:37,950 --> 00:29:40,830 shows a interesting structure for people who watch it. I 549 00:29:40,830 --> 00:29:44,250 designed it specifically why I didn't completely design it from 550 00:29:44,460 --> 00:29:47,820 scratch but I designed it to have less people because I've 551 00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:50,730 always felt that uh, one of these types of talk shows that 552 00:29:50,730 --> 00:29:54,510 have a host and for people to for half an hour. One person 553 00:29:54,510 --> 00:29:58,020 never gets to say anything right. And you know, and then 554 00:29:58,020 --> 00:30:01,920 and it's also causes a weird day. namak because it's kind of 555 00:30:01,950 --> 00:30:05,490 unbalanced. And so you don't get a free flow of information when 556 00:30:05,490 --> 00:30:09,810 you only have three people. You get a year the banter can be a 557 00:30:09,810 --> 00:30:10,560 lot more 558 00:30:10,590 --> 00:30:13,200 aggressive. And you've got a shell because Sebastian is 559 00:30:13,290 --> 00:30:14,910 essentially a shill. But the great 560 00:30:14,910 --> 00:30:17,880 The great thing is I really only have two people, because 561 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,110 Sebastian isn't really on the show. He's the shill, sidekick, 562 00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:25,230 and the go to guy and what it amount which is that which is 563 00:30:25,230 --> 00:30:29,160 the Tweak on the on this model, because and what makes it 564 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,030 interesting as a tweak is that if you have two guests that are 565 00:30:33,030 --> 00:30:36,690 just duds, I've never actually had to complete duds, but I've 566 00:30:36,690 --> 00:30:40,620 had two questionable guests, Sebastian can literally and 567 00:30:40,620 --> 00:30:44,490 myself can carry the whole show. And he can do it and he knows 568 00:30:44,490 --> 00:30:46,560 when to do it. And when you have two people that are extremely 569 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,710 talkative, Sebastian knows to back off and let these guys go 570 00:30:49,710 --> 00:30:52,740 after each other or whatever they're doing. So they so they 571 00:30:52,740 --> 00:30:55,170 have that one, you know, so essentially, it's a two man 572 00:30:55,170 --> 00:31:01,170 show. A presenter which would be me, and then essentially a co 573 00:31:01,170 --> 00:31:05,760 host, who's who appears to be a guest. He's not really a guest. 574 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,040 He's a co host, but he's presented as a guest and so you 575 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,540 have this unusual model 576 00:31:09,570 --> 00:31:12,660 when you ruin it for me now the show's not gonna be any more fun 577 00:31:12,660 --> 00:31:15,570 now that I know how it works. I don't want to be on it now screw 578 00:31:15,570 --> 00:31:22,140 that Sebastian the show I'll say Hey, John. Thanks. It's great to 579 00:31:22,140 --> 00:31:24,300 be on crack eats Leo. Good to see you. Hey, Sebastian. The 580 00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:25,890 shill. Yeah. Hey, how you doing man? 581 00:31:26,610 --> 00:31:29,580 Well, you know every show has has an underlying model that 582 00:31:29,580 --> 00:31:31,950 makes it work. I mean, the show that we're doing here no agenda. 583 00:31:31,950 --> 00:31:35,430 The model is there is no model. But that's unusual. And that 584 00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:38,550 only works with a couple of blowhards like ourselves, who 585 00:31:38,550 --> 00:31:41,340 can like yakking away from about stupid stuff? Well 586 00:31:41,340 --> 00:31:43,290 speak for yourself. You're the one that's been yakking 587 00:31:43,290 --> 00:31:45,930 throughout the entire show. I can't get a word in edgewise. 588 00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:49,470 Yeah, well, I'm just because you're sitting there obsessing 589 00:31:49,470 --> 00:31:51,270 with your crappy rig there that you ruin. 590 00:31:51,390 --> 00:31:55,740 It's true. I ruined I just tried to carry a carrier here. There 591 00:31:55,740 --> 00:31:58,890 was some there was some guy that called in and said you could set 592 00:31:58,890 --> 00:32:03,060 this up on Windows. He did have the setup, including the virtual 593 00:32:03,630 --> 00:32:06,990 video cables. Yeah, I'll send it to you. I gotta dig it. Well, he 594 00:32:07,470 --> 00:32:07,980 went on. No, I 595 00:32:07,980 --> 00:32:10,590 didn't. So you too can have all this aggravation. I just want 596 00:32:10,590 --> 00:32:11,880 you to someone to share it with. 597 00:32:13,230 --> 00:32:15,210 I'll be doing on Windows. It won't be aggravating. What 598 00:32:15,210 --> 00:32:17,910 does it do it? Does Leo have a whole studio he has a whole 599 00:32:17,910 --> 00:32:21,000 professional studio, right? He just plugs in Skype into his 600 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,250 existing setup, I guess. Have you ever seen it? 601 00:32:24,420 --> 00:32:28,320 I you know, I have to go up there. Because he owes me lunch. 602 00:32:28,350 --> 00:32:31,470 He's been promising to take me to this two star Michelin place 603 00:32:31,470 --> 00:32:35,310 up in Healdsburg. And I've been wanting to go up there. And 604 00:32:35,310 --> 00:32:38,250 because this is apparently one of the best restaurants in 605 00:32:38,250 --> 00:32:41,310 California, but it's a little out of the way. And so I want to 606 00:32:41,310 --> 00:32:45,480 go up there and in the process, I want to see the studio and 607 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,610 take some pictures of and see what it is he is doing because I 608 00:32:47,610 --> 00:32:50,460 think he has a I think it's got a Yeah, he's got a professional 609 00:32:50,460 --> 00:32:52,470 studio with a lot of gear. 610 00:32:53,070 --> 00:32:56,610 We'll see. That's for some reason. I've always wanted to 611 00:32:56,610 --> 00:33:00,120 just have it all contained in one box. That's just you know, I 612 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,910 could build a whole studio here but I don't I just want a little 613 00:33:02,910 --> 00:33:07,290 fucking box. I just want it to work. We've got all this audio 614 00:33:07,290 --> 00:33:09,330 is the last thing that people always think about and 615 00:33:09,330 --> 00:33:12,990 everything these days they don't give a shit. A lot of audio is 616 00:33:12,990 --> 00:33:17,130 bad. And Apple's got some good things going on inside with 617 00:33:17,130 --> 00:33:20,040 their virtual devices and aggregate devices and all that 618 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,890 but still it's it's it's just not it's not enough horsepower 619 00:33:22,890 --> 00:33:25,110 going towards it. I don't know it should be able to tweak that 620 00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:28,230 I just want it all to work in one portable man under my arm 621 00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:30,990 wherever I am want to have the same setup, same sound, 622 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,580 everything configured. So I don't have to be like Leo 623 00:33:36,990 --> 00:33:37,860 stuck at home. 624 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:44,250 Roger McGuane has something like that because he's got one. I 625 00:33:44,250 --> 00:33:47,370 think he's using a laptop, Toshiba or something? I'm not 626 00:33:47,370 --> 00:33:50,280 sure maybe he's moved to a Mac. But he has a rig like that that 627 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:56,460 he and I think the X rocker Billy, whatever is the bill. I 628 00:33:56,460 --> 00:34:00,600 don't feel like they have these rigs. I know Rogers has got like 629 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,950 he's got got a Roger has this laptop was it with a little 630 00:34:04,980 --> 00:34:07,800 built in mixer and he takes a microphone. 631 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,900 But I've made a study, I've made a study of this, John, what all 632 00:34:12,900 --> 00:34:15,870 of these things right? You've got these USB microphones and 633 00:34:15,870 --> 00:34:19,920 USB direct in boxes and everything, all of them, you 634 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,300 have to monitor. So if you're recording just analogue audio, 635 00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:29,190 something coming out of your mouth or an analogue instrument, 636 00:34:29,910 --> 00:34:33,420 it's the monitoring of it always occurs before it goes into the 637 00:34:33,420 --> 00:34:36,390 software. So you're basically hearing an unprocessed signal, 638 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,240 and then on the mix. And sometimes even because there's 639 00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:42,600 delay, these programmes have special digital delays built in 640 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,940 so it'll sync up because you were basically singing or 641 00:34:44,940 --> 00:34:47,670 playing your acoustic guitar along with a track and it was 642 00:34:47,670 --> 00:34:51,090 recorded like three milliseconds later than what you're actually 643 00:34:51,090 --> 00:34:54,000 hearing. So there's all these tricks and it works great for 644 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,050 producing music, but when you actually want to process what 645 00:34:58,050 --> 00:35:00,990 you're saying at this very moment and Listen to the process 646 00:35:00,990 --> 00:35:05,400 signal without a delay, which makes you talk funny. It almost 647 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,460 can't be done. I mean, I'm right on the edge of making it happen 648 00:35:08,460 --> 00:35:11,370 and for some reason that worked earlier today, and now it 649 00:35:11,370 --> 00:35:16,050 doesn't and it's like Milla, millimetres of CPU usage make 650 00:35:16,050 --> 00:35:19,680 all the difference and I just can't figure it out. So there is 651 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,340 no one set up for this. It's just not set up. No one's ever 652 00:35:23,340 --> 00:35:26,670 really thought about what it will really take to make all of 653 00:35:26,670 --> 00:35:33,060 it work. Okay, I know you're sad. I know you're sad for me. 654 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,150 So you're I'm glad you got that out of your chest. 655 00:35:36,270 --> 00:35:40,050 Hey, was there anything from the from the Barcelona conference? 656 00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:44,040 Conference was anything anything good? 657 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,460 Well, there was one piece of news that I report on tech five 658 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:53,610 dot pod show.com figure get some plugs in there. Apparently, 659 00:35:53,850 --> 00:35:57,180 Motorola was such a big disappointment that the European 660 00:35:57,180 --> 00:36:01,680 presses rag on them cease endlessly really. They had 661 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,490 nothing this is not a good situation Motorola for some 662 00:36:05,490 --> 00:36:07,980 unknown reasons just seem to fallen off the you know, they 663 00:36:07,980 --> 00:36:13,920 had Xander came in there and took credit for the razor. But 664 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,230 it looks like that was on the books before he got there and 665 00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:20,490 then he couldn't do anything there your next son guy, and 666 00:36:20,490 --> 00:36:23,730 then they fired him and gave him like 100 million bucks to go 667 00:36:23,730 --> 00:36:27,630 away which is good work if you can get it. And they've now 668 00:36:27,630 --> 00:36:29,850 there just seemed to be a rudderless ship. 669 00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:34,560 Where did wasn't the history of Motorola and once they car 670 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,720 radios, no walkie talkie Oh 671 00:36:36,750 --> 00:36:41,640 roll. I was rolling radio. They put me I think they made the 672 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,930 first car radio. And it may it may prove it. They may have even 673 00:36:45,930 --> 00:36:47,850 done a record player or something like that. Before 674 00:36:47,850 --> 00:36:50,520 that. I know there were these we're talking about in the 20s 675 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,720 and 30s. That's how they got started as a radio moto moto 676 00:36:54,750 --> 00:37:02,250 moto. Rolla Well, Victrola, you know Victrola Motorola get it 677 00:37:02,430 --> 00:37:05,430 right now, you know, I guess it's kind of anyone's gamble as 678 00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:08,160 to where it's gonna go and what people want. I'm still carrying 679 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,280 around multiple devices. You know, they had it with the razor 680 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,820 it was it was a fashion statement. And it actually 681 00:37:14,820 --> 00:37:19,770 brought back the clamshell handsets. Because those were 682 00:37:19,770 --> 00:37:24,150 really popular for a while in like the mid 90s. And then you 683 00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:26,850 know what, everyone's lid started flipping off, and you're 684 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,090 the speaker would break and it was all kinds of everyone's 685 00:37:30,090 --> 00:37:30,210 like, 686 00:37:31,740 --> 00:37:34,350 aren't they the ones they pioneer to popularise it with 687 00:37:34,350 --> 00:37:35,580 the start tag, Star 688 00:37:35,580 --> 00:37:38,460 tack, that's the one Yep, the little star tag with the pullout 689 00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:39,030 antenna. 690 00:37:39,540 --> 00:37:42,240 And everybody had everyone who had one, when they first came 691 00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:45,090 out, they always show them off to everybody, it was a people 692 00:37:45,090 --> 00:37:49,380 would gather around you if you had one of these things. And 693 00:37:49,380 --> 00:37:52,110 then they you know, they kind of modified and shrunk and shrunk 694 00:37:52,110 --> 00:37:54,090 and then they made one I remember this because I was 695 00:37:54,090 --> 00:37:59,640 doing the that show, I was working for Tech TV at the time. 696 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,330 And one of the guy was a guest on my silicon spin show. And he 697 00:38:03,330 --> 00:38:06,390 came in with the newest version of the star tack which 698 00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:07,200 microtasks. 699 00:38:08,010 --> 00:38:09,060 Yeah, it was like a 700 00:38:10,770 --> 00:38:15,000 little, it was like the size of a, I don't even know like if it 701 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,910 is small, it was at the size of a small cigarette about the size 702 00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:23,160 of a Zippo lighter, only not as wide. And it was just a little 703 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,830 bitty thing. And he opened it up. And he would you could dial 704 00:38:25,830 --> 00:38:27,720 on it and the whole thing and then you button you hold it up, 705 00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:31,410 you look like an idiot holding this little video to your ear. 706 00:38:31,650 --> 00:38:34,740 It was smaller than the typical Bluetooth thing that you stick 707 00:38:34,740 --> 00:38:38,820 in your area. Right. And that was like somehow mark the end of 708 00:38:38,820 --> 00:38:41,580 an era because that was like That was so stupid. 709 00:38:41,610 --> 00:38:44,400 Well, Nokia had one of their own at the time, which was also it 710 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:49,110 was imagined like the, you know, the classic Nokia, like the 5350 711 00:38:49,110 --> 00:38:52,830 or whatever it is, you know, the very classic robust Nokia that 712 00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:54,990 everyone had, you could you could drive a truck over and 713 00:38:54,990 --> 00:38:57,750 nothing would happen. So they shrunk that down to the same 714 00:38:57,750 --> 00:39:00,300 size as the Microtech. I think it came a couple of years later 715 00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:02,970 actually. And weighed nothing. You could literally you could 716 00:39:02,970 --> 00:39:06,300 stick it into the into that weird pocket that you have on 717 00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:10,230 your on your on your pants, on your trousers, that little 718 00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:12,720 pocket on the right hand side that holds quarters. Yeah, that 719 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:16,890 one, you could stick it in there literally. And any right and it 720 00:39:16,890 --> 00:39:19,620 was, you know, for weight and stuff. It was great because it 721 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,580 you know, it was almost actually I remember I had that one, but I 722 00:39:23,580 --> 00:39:26,250 gave it up for the matrix phone because that was the next one 723 00:39:26,250 --> 00:39:29,010 that you had to have. Remember the one they had in the matrix 724 00:39:29,010 --> 00:39:32,550 with the with the mouthpiece that slid down that popped down 725 00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:35,160 at the press? Right? I remember that. Yeah. So we all had to 726 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,060 have that one. And anyway, so it was years later the razor came 727 00:39:39,060 --> 00:39:41,400 out which is just a throwback. I don't know, man. It's designed, 728 00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:44,160 you know, look at look at the iPhone. I mean, good, bad, 729 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,030 indifferent. You can't deny that the concept and the design and 730 00:39:48,090 --> 00:39:50,850 and a lot of what it's doing is just radically different than 731 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,050 what everyone else has. 732 00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:57,510 Yeah, but people are now moaning about it. Really? Yeah, I mean, 733 00:39:57,510 --> 00:40:00,570 I just did the cranky geek show this last week. And Stan had 734 00:40:00,570 --> 00:40:06,300 Larry maggot on who's a commentator for CBS. And he was 735 00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:10,410 a local radio guy or something. And he all he did was complained 736 00:40:10,410 --> 00:40:13,140 bitterly about the thing. And he mainly talked about, I guess, 737 00:40:13,140 --> 00:40:16,740 part of the town where he lives, about to lousy the fact that you 738 00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:19,980 couldn't get a signal, which we talked about before on this 739 00:40:19,980 --> 00:40:25,350 show. And so I pulled out my Nokia, the one I have that Pato 740 00:40:25,980 --> 00:40:29,910 loaned me, which has the exact same service he has on the 741 00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:34,080 iPhone, and we booted him. And we looked and I had a bar and a 742 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,360 half, because we were in the studio, so you can't get a 743 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,310 signal in there. I had a bar and a half, he couldn't get a signal 744 00:40:38,310 --> 00:40:38,730 at all. 745 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,360 Now, that's, well, that's just the exact same service minor 746 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,410 inconvenience. A lot of a lot of the stuff is really good now, 747 00:40:46,410 --> 00:40:48,240 but a lot of the others, I mean, they can fix that. They'll 748 00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:51,060 figure that out. We know we know that they missed out 749 00:40:51,060 --> 00:40:53,070 you get I don't you know, they got that metal case, I don't 750 00:40:53,070 --> 00:40:53,700 think helps. 751 00:40:53,730 --> 00:40:55,980 Well, that no, we went through this John, there's a little 752 00:40:55,980 --> 00:41:00,030 plastic bit in the metal casing where the antenna is supposed to 753 00:41:00,150 --> 00:41:03,630 be able to transmit receive through the plastic bit, but 754 00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:05,670 it's just the design thing. They'll figure that out. They 755 00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:09,060 know they fix that. And once that's working once they have 756 00:41:09,060 --> 00:41:14,310 the battery life up to a normal person's work work day in Yeah, 757 00:41:14,310 --> 00:41:17,280 and then they get their 3g or wi max or whatever they're going to 758 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,960 put into it. It'll be great. Now, 759 00:41:19,620 --> 00:41:23,790 yeah, but then it'll be dated. Now. Let's, which reminds me, I 760 00:41:23,790 --> 00:41:26,970 dated phones. If anyone gets a chance, go to the register and 761 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,490 look up Andrew or Loski is coverage of this phone 762 00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:36,060 conference, the world phone, whatever that gets called Andrew 763 00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:41,580 or Loski. Andrew or Loski. He does a very funny, I am going to 764 00:41:41,580 --> 00:41:44,460 give the story away. But it's just worth reading from the 765 00:41:44,460 --> 00:41:49,200 structural perspective. He does this product review of the Nokia 766 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,440 phone that is the absolute best phone. You know, she says at the 767 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,080 conference and look at this phone that Nokia has and he 768 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,030 shows a sight picture of it shows and he talks about the 769 00:41:57,030 --> 00:42:01,410 battery life is battery life is like a month. And it Talktime is 770 00:42:01,410 --> 00:42:03,990 like you know, a week and it's got all these characteristics 771 00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:06,450 and features and everything. And then he reminds us that this was 772 00:42:06,450 --> 00:42:12,060 a 1995 phone that they don't make anymore. He was actually 773 00:42:12,060 --> 00:42:13,710 quite it's quite a funny article. 774 00:42:14,340 --> 00:42:19,920 So I was just googled him and comic strip blogger. You know, 775 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:25,260 my my superfan or buddy, yeah, he he has a page on on Andrew. 776 00:42:26,490 --> 00:42:29,940 Feel like this? Yeah, sure. Andrew biography of 777 00:42:29,940 --> 00:42:33,210 Andrew or Loski. He is a citizen of the UK, who now lives in San 778 00:42:33,210 --> 00:42:36,660 Francisco, USA, ancestors of Andrew Loski were Polish 779 00:42:36,660 --> 00:42:39,690 citizens who stayed in the UK after World War Two, because 780 00:42:39,690 --> 00:42:42,960 Poland was then occupied by the Soviet Union. And some polls 781 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,720 didn't want to live under Soviet occupation and stayed in the 782 00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:53,370 West. Now that he says he works for the register, the register 783 00:42:53,370 --> 00:42:56,610 is a dirty tabloid. And it shows in many ways they are 784 00:42:56,610 --> 00:42:59,190 publishing, for example, without permission emails that were 785 00:42:59,190 --> 00:43:02,220 intended as private. And also they are publishing anonymous 786 00:43:02,220 --> 00:43:04,860 emails that contain offensive content, even if information 787 00:43:04,860 --> 00:43:09,750 from these anonymous emails is not confirmed as a lie. Okay. Go 788 00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:10,710 see as be. 789 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,190 Yeah, it sounds like a pretty accurate description. That 790 00:43:14,190 --> 00:43:16,830 sounds like Loski lives in London. But that's another 791 00:43:16,830 --> 00:43:17,520 story. Well, I 792 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,590 this could be an old page could be 793 00:43:23,340 --> 00:43:24,900 a comic strip blogger. 794 00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:31,770 So what else we got on a list? Um, we talked about the chickens 795 00:43:31,770 --> 00:43:33,330 and the marks and sparks. 796 00:43:33,390 --> 00:43:39,570 Yeah, we talked about. Sharon, you when you hear this show, 797 00:43:39,570 --> 00:43:42,330 you're gonna understand why I'm so distracted. You're just 798 00:43:42,330 --> 00:43:46,950 hearing yourself fine. You have no idea what's going on. That 799 00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:47,550 sucks. 800 00:43:47,850 --> 00:43:50,160 There was a thing in the news that was interesting to date, 801 00:43:50,190 --> 00:43:53,940 but the Danish ISP that just says screw you guys about Pirate 802 00:43:53,940 --> 00:43:55,950 Bay. We're not going to do anything about it. I missed 803 00:43:55,950 --> 00:43:58,680 that. What was that? Is that in the news over there at all? 804 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,200 No, that, you know, the news hears about the three strikes 805 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,850 you're out rule. You heard about that, right. You must have 806 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,570 there's no Tell me. Oh, there's a green paper, which is kind of 807 00:44:09,570 --> 00:44:13,680 a a bill being written. So it's, I think a trial balloon 808 00:44:13,710 --> 00:44:19,200 essentially, that the government would would require UK ISPs to 809 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,680 monitor everyone's traffic. If you it's a three strikes, you're 810 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,520 out. So if they're caught downloading a file, illegally is 811 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,890 kind of the way they're paraphrasing it the first time. 812 00:44:29,070 --> 00:44:31,320 Right, right. No, actually, I've talked about this on tech five. 813 00:44:31,350 --> 00:44:33,030 Okay. I didn't know it's called that though. 814 00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:36,660 Well, of course, it's the you know, in a country that knows 815 00:44:36,660 --> 00:44:39,030 nothing about baseball and everything about cricket. Of 816 00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:41,790 course they call it the three strikes. You're out rule. Makes 817 00:44:41,790 --> 00:44:42,240 sense. 818 00:44:44,820 --> 00:44:46,260 So three strikes and you're out. 819 00:44:46,650 --> 00:44:48,990 They don't they don't notice they don't play baseball over 820 00:44:48,990 --> 00:44:53,100 here. Dude. I have to explain to people all the time, say 821 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,750 baseball. How does that work? Okay. If you can explain cricket 822 00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:59,220 to me, I can explain baseball. 823 00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:01,830 Yeah, cricket Wow. 824 00:45:01,979 --> 00:45:04,259 Now forget it. You can't you can't explain it. 825 00:45:05,310 --> 00:45:08,010 No, it's it does the game does I think they make the rules up as 826 00:45:08,010 --> 00:45:08,520 they go along. 827 00:45:08,580 --> 00:45:11,970 Seems like it's like time. That's it. We'll see. ultomiris 828 00:45:11,970 --> 00:45:12,540 has a couple of 829 00:45:12,540 --> 00:45:15,090 really good players and they just let him hit all day. Yeah. 830 00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:17,490 And I mean, there's like it was baseball, they'd have very 831 00:45:17,490 --> 00:45:19,290 bonds, just doing all the batting for three 832 00:45:19,290 --> 00:45:20,070 days in a row 833 00:45:21,330 --> 00:45:24,180 or a week depends on how many hotdogs they can sell. 834 00:45:26,730 --> 00:45:29,610 Nothing else is going on here. I mean, it's stuff I talk about on 835 00:45:29,610 --> 00:45:32,730 a daily source code. People hate it when I cross post as it were, 836 00:45:32,910 --> 00:45:35,460 from one show to oh, you know, I don't do that kind of thing that 837 00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:38,040 you do all the time, man. You're always talking about oh, I 838 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,620 mentioned that on tech five. Surely you've heard of me, the 839 00:45:40,650 --> 00:45:46,950 the prognosticator of all things tech, John C. Dvorak. You can 840 00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:48,270 make a career out of this man. 841 00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:50,430 You let it just plugging myself 842 00:45:50,460 --> 00:45:53,130 talking shit and plugging into me kind of already on the way 843 00:45:53,130 --> 00:45:55,860 but I think I've validated that concept by doing the show with 844 00:45:55,860 --> 00:45:56,130 you. 845 00:45:58,380 --> 00:46:02,310 spare time nobody writes it. I mean, nobody reads it. There's a 846 00:46:02,310 --> 00:46:06,420 whole generation of people coming up that listen to me. And 847 00:46:06,420 --> 00:46:09,360 they don't even know I'm a writer. It's just an identity is 848 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,820 a good market and they're good people. And they want to hear 849 00:46:11,820 --> 00:46:14,130 this stuff. So I figured I'm gonna have to do you know dual 850 00:46:14,130 --> 00:46:16,290 purpose. I've never really uh, you know, I was I took 851 00:46:16,290 --> 00:46:18,450 broadcasting in school. I mean, it's not like I haven't been 852 00:46:18,450 --> 00:46:21,450 doing this for a long time so I can do it. But I'm not really 853 00:46:21,450 --> 00:46:24,750 cut out for it. I'm, I'm a writer. Basically. I'm not a 854 00:46:24,750 --> 00:46:29,940 good looking guy. I don't present myself I'm grumpy. It 855 00:46:29,940 --> 00:46:32,700 just like not smiling all the time. Like you need to do on 856 00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:34,620 television to really do the job right? 857 00:46:34,650 --> 00:46:38,670 Or wait, here comes your you're not good for like a morning zoo 858 00:46:38,670 --> 00:46:39,330 format. 859 00:46:40,530 --> 00:46:41,730 You like you would? 860 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,340 Hey, good morning, John C. Dvorak. Here. We got the Palo 861 00:46:47,340 --> 00:46:55,080 Alto morning zoo, everybody. Yeah, so I'm like, 862 00:46:55,380 --> 00:47:00,570 I could do that. I can do a kind of a gag voice. But I can't 863 00:47:00,570 --> 00:47:03,180 sustain it. You could probably go out for hours. Let's hear 864 00:47:03,180 --> 00:47:07,740 your gag voice. I just I'm not going to do it. Because I'm just 865 00:47:07,740 --> 00:47:09,960 not. I mean, I can't I've not just 866 00:47:10,830 --> 00:47:13,320 now come on Jarrah gag radio. 867 00:47:13,650 --> 00:47:14,490 Worked on it first. 868 00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:20,040 Good morning, San Francisco city by the bay. Hey, it's ACC here 869 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,970 on the T to E tip. We've got Johnny C. Dvorak. He's standing 870 00:47:23,970 --> 00:47:26,310 by he's gonna give us a little bit of his prognosticating. 871 00:47:26,310 --> 00:47:28,530 John, see, where's that voice of yours? Come on? No. 872 00:47:31,050 --> 00:47:32,160 No, no. 873 00:47:32,220 --> 00:47:33,240 Okay. I tried. 874 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,430 I just you know, it's one of those things. I can click into 875 00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:38,880 it. It's like my Indian voice. Oh, please. Put myself into it. 876 00:47:39,390 --> 00:47:42,840 Don't in another voice. Don't do the Indian voice will get hate. 877 00:47:44,580 --> 00:47:47,400 You know, the Indian voice. I get notes about it. Because? 878 00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:54,690 Because people think, well, I don't even don't even for some 879 00:47:54,690 --> 00:47:57,780 reason that I'm not doing a voice mood. That's okay. If I 880 00:47:57,780 --> 00:48:00,300 was into doing the voice, I would do it now like this. Now, 881 00:48:00,300 --> 00:48:02,760 let me tell you something. Now I have talked about this guy 882 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,630 before. Now he talks like this. And I get a lot of complaints 883 00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:09,060 about doing this first, because it's somehow it's insulting to 884 00:48:09,060 --> 00:48:12,690 someone. But I'm not absolutely sure who. And I've said this and 885 00:48:12,690 --> 00:48:17,790 I'll say it again. This is the number one accent for speaking 886 00:48:17,790 --> 00:48:21,570 the English. There is no other there are more people that talk 887 00:48:21,570 --> 00:48:24,450 like this than talk like anybody else, including a southern guy. 888 00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:26,700 And I've heard this other than guys, and I can understand a 889 00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:30,570 word they say. So I can do this. I can also do a Bombay voice, 890 00:48:30,570 --> 00:48:34,560 which is a little different. And I can tell I'm going to talk 891 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,850 like now there's a guy who talks funny if he asked me but now I 892 00:48:38,850 --> 00:48:43,230 could get criticised for doing that, that that Indian voice. 893 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,110 But I won't get criticised for doing this. This kind of generic 894 00:48:46,110 --> 00:48:48,870 bullshit southern voices really doesn't come from anywhere. So a 895 00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:52,260 little bit of Texas, although without the screeching. And it's 896 00:48:52,260 --> 00:48:56,250 a little bit of a little bit of Georgia, maybe maybe the Alabama 897 00:48:56,250 --> 00:48:59,250 it's hard to say I've been around him most of the South. So 898 00:48:59,250 --> 00:49:02,130 I can. But I won't get criticised for this voice. And I 899 00:49:02,130 --> 00:49:05,790 won't get criticised from a French guy, Brit, Russian or 900 00:49:05,790 --> 00:49:07,650 anybody else, but that that Indian guy gets me in trouble. 901 00:49:07,770 --> 00:49:10,410 Oh, you were very close to George Bush there when you did 902 00:49:10,410 --> 00:49:12,600 your southern thing that was pretty good. You should try 903 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,520 that. Just trying to get a George Bush together. 904 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,220 Well, you know, there's a Texas accent that I've always loved. I 905 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,790 got Chuck Schumer's cheat. And protections are structured from 906 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:27,000 executive tops. They talk to the chief and that kind of saying 907 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,080 that you're getting closer. 908 00:49:30,750 --> 00:49:33,510 It's too bad. My wife is downloading Fashion TV off of 909 00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:34,470 YouTube again. 910 00:49:35,010 --> 00:49:38,730 While we're doing that I have I have actually talked to him when 911 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,340 I picked up on the guys talking through their teeth when I met 912 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,900 John Roach, who was the CEO of RadioShack for years on end. 913 00:49:46,350 --> 00:49:49,680 Yeah. And I went to his office, beautiful place. He had a huge 914 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,190 office with a gentleman that seems once had been 50 feet 915 00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:57,720 high. And he talked to history. And and I started realising that 916 00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:01,650 text since exact He lives in Texas and I will be replaced by 917 00:50:01,650 --> 00:50:07,410 Josh. And I'm not sure why. They suddenly seemed like mumbling if 918 00:50:07,410 --> 00:50:07,920 he asked me 919 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,239 You're pretty good now you got some you got some. You got some 920 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:16,799 chops there with the accent that was all right. Yeah, can you do 921 00:50:17,009 --> 00:50:17,879 New Yorker? 922 00:50:19,050 --> 00:50:21,330 You know I can, but I'm not so good at it that I feel 923 00:50:21,330 --> 00:50:24,300 comfortable doing it until I get it down. It's one of those 924 00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:27,180 things I can get a certain accent you can do like the DJ. 925 00:50:27,420 --> 00:50:28,350 Well, you can go in, 926 00:50:28,590 --> 00:50:32,010 excuse me. It took years of practice to get that voice. 927 00:50:32,010 --> 00:50:34,500 Okay. I mean, it's not it's not just like a thing you can just 928 00:50:34,500 --> 00:50:36,840 lock into. I mean, that's real talent at work. Okay. 929 00:50:38,670 --> 00:50:44,340 So, but anyway, I've done the Indian accent with some Indians, 930 00:50:44,340 --> 00:50:46,140 and they, you know, they look at me funny. 931 00:50:47,340 --> 00:50:49,500 If you did it with some Indians, you're kidding me? 932 00:50:49,530 --> 00:50:54,090 Oh, yeah. No, I have done it that way. They say to me, let me 933 00:50:54,090 --> 00:50:56,100 hit this action. So no. 934 00:50:59,250 --> 00:51:01,680 And let me guess. And let me guess it was like crickets after 935 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:02,790 you were done. Right? They were like, 936 00:51:03,570 --> 00:51:06,360 no, actually, one of the guys gave me a comment. He said, You 937 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,170 know, he told me where the exit was kind of from. And I should 938 00:51:10,170 --> 00:51:12,600 say, and I should reference it. When he says, you know, that 939 00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:16,590 sounds a little and he told me something, Eric. And I think if 940 00:51:16,590 --> 00:51:18,960 I changed it, maybe it'd be less offensive. I said it was a 941 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,740 Pakistani accent. Oh, yeah. Oh, that'll fly. If you come over 942 00:51:22,740 --> 00:51:25,170 here and do that. That will result in the breakthrough. 943 00:51:25,290 --> 00:51:29,130 Right? Get get into any taxi cab please. And just and just say, 944 00:51:29,130 --> 00:51:30,780 Oh, here's my Pakistani accent 945 00:51:32,850 --> 00:51:36,330 that went out. So anyway, but I do make the remark that that is 946 00:51:36,330 --> 00:51:40,710 probably the number one and I listened. Watch Indian TV. And I 947 00:51:40,740 --> 00:51:43,560 would have to say they'll talk like that. And I think that is 948 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,250 the top accent if we're doing a numbers game. I think more 949 00:51:47,250 --> 00:51:51,210 people speak English with that rhythm than they do with any 950 00:51:51,210 --> 00:51:54,990 other. Yeah, so I don't see how it could be offensive. 951 00:51:56,250 --> 00:51:58,200 Well, because we're all politically correct. And we're 952 00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,940 all stupid that way. That's why 953 00:51:59,970 --> 00:52:02,250 I think it's going to be the way we're all going to be talking. 954 00:52:02,250 --> 00:52:03,240 That's my theory. I'm 955 00:52:04,740 --> 00:52:07,830 just getting into it for the inevitable. We'll have to we'll 956 00:52:07,830 --> 00:52:07,980 have 957 00:52:08,669 --> 00:52:11,279 we're all speaking in the net with an Indian accent. Why not? 958 00:52:11,729 --> 00:52:14,129 It's actually kind of got a nice ring to it and makes you sound 959 00:52:14,669 --> 00:52:16,229 very safe. Okay, 960 00:52:16,290 --> 00:52:19,950 but here's my gauge for it. Okay, so if you're making love 961 00:52:19,950 --> 00:52:24,510 right? How could that accent just doesn't fly you know? It 962 00:52:24,510 --> 00:52:28,080 just doesn't sound right. It's not it's like oh yes baby will 963 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,020 give it to me right Dad? or Yes, but or please put your finger on 964 00:52:31,020 --> 00:52:34,050 that offers really quickly. I like it very much. I mean, you 965 00:52:34,050 --> 00:52:36,000 know, it just doesn't quite fit. 966 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:42,240 I don't know. Maybe they will. I mean, look at the music that 967 00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:43,800 they listen to it. That screeching 968 00:52:44,550 --> 00:52:51,480 dude Desi I love Desi anything. I can't get enough of it. Are 969 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,710 you kidding me? I love that. 970 00:52:53,460 --> 00:52:54,450 No, you don't? Yeah, I 971 00:52:54,450 --> 00:52:59,070 do. I do. demography the modern? Yeah, absolutely. The modern day 972 00:52:59,070 --> 00:53:04,740 Desi. That's D S i It's it's I mean, it's got a great groove. 973 00:53:04,740 --> 00:53:09,660 It's got they're in a really funky harmonies and you know, 974 00:53:09,660 --> 00:53:13,020 stuff that just isn't even in our musical vocabulary. 975 00:53:13,020 --> 00:53:16,410 Literally. No, I dig it in and the all the kids are dancing to 976 00:53:16,410 --> 00:53:16,980 a John. 977 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:22,170 Please. So by the way, I should mention this when I do that 978 00:53:22,170 --> 00:53:26,010 Indian accent, my daughter's around. She thinks I'm an idiot. 979 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,270 And she says it doesn't sound anything at all, like an Indian. 980 00:53:30,450 --> 00:53:33,660 Now I should get my daughter up here. She's she's in home yet. 981 00:53:33,660 --> 00:53:37,080 She's she's, she has school vacations. She's working. But 982 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,440 she's really good. Next time we do a show on a weekend and I'm 983 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:45,600 home. So that could be like in 2010. I'll ask her to come up 984 00:53:45,810 --> 00:53:50,760 and do a couple of rocks and she does. She actually speaks Dutch 985 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,760 and Flemish with a complete accent she speaks American 986 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,700 English English English but she could do all sub accents 987 00:53:56,730 --> 00:53:58,440 Australian she's really good at 988 00:53:59,370 --> 00:54:01,650 like the difference between the Australian and the British 989 00:54:01,650 --> 00:54:03,000 accent and Australian 990 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,820 and there's Australian and New Zealand which is yet again 991 00:54:05,820 --> 00:54:07,350 subtle, subtle, be interested 992 00:54:07,350 --> 00:54:10,170 in listening to her try to define those two because that's 993 00:54:10,170 --> 00:54:12,390 that's an another fascinating difference because every once in 994 00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:15,060 a while you run into some guy you know, somewhere especially 995 00:54:15,060 --> 00:54:17,070 around here that San Francisco Bay Area where all these 996 00:54:17,070 --> 00:54:20,580 travellers are and you hear a guy and you go oh that's that's 997 00:54:20,580 --> 00:54:23,340 an Australian and you know and you say you are from Australia 998 00:54:23,340 --> 00:54:23,490 right 999 00:54:23,490 --> 00:54:24,960 and you can pick them off more 1000 00:54:26,190 --> 00:54:28,440 well if he's from New Zealand, he's not too pleased. But 1001 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,260 exactly that's my point. And generally speaking, you don't 1002 00:54:31,260 --> 00:54:33,900 run into too many New Zealanders because they really, I don't 1003 00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:35,310 think many of them get off the islands. 1004 00:54:36,030 --> 00:54:40,320 You Can I fly with a with a kiwi guy who runs our Office here is 1005 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,730 a kiwi Maitland. Now there's lots of them. They're infesting 1006 00:54:44,730 --> 00:54:45,330 the world. 1007 00:54:45,749 --> 00:54:48,839 Maybe they don't admit it when they're over here, but possible, 1008 00:54:48,899 --> 00:54:49,169 or they 1009 00:54:49,170 --> 00:54:52,980 just say Yeah, well, I'm from Australia mate. Just easier 1010 00:54:52,980 --> 00:54:55,290 because if you're not from what you know when someone says hey, 1011 00:54:55,290 --> 00:55:00,660 you Hey, hey, you are you from Australia and If the guy says 1012 00:55:00,690 --> 00:55:04,200 no, I'm from New Zealand is like, Oh, well I like Australia 1013 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,770 because that's where that that that that crocodile guy was 1014 00:55:07,770 --> 00:55:11,160 from. And you got that other that that Dundee fella 1015 00:55:12,780 --> 00:55:17,790 and New Zealand as your American accent. Yeah. So I think there 1016 00:55:17,790 --> 00:55:20,190 may be some truth to the fact that most people in the United 1017 00:55:20,190 --> 00:55:23,430 States don't even know where New Zealand is. And these guys are 1018 00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:24,360 sort of explaining it. 1019 00:55:24,809 --> 00:55:27,599 But they also have no national heroes. You know, Australia. 1020 00:55:27,869 --> 00:55:33,449 We've got Mel Gibson. We've got your Olivia Newton John. We've 1021 00:55:33,479 --> 00:55:38,519 got Come on, help me out here. Nicole Kidman. We've gotten 1022 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,850 out dandy. We got to crocodile. Oh, actually, there's a whole 1023 00:55:41,850 --> 00:55:45,420 bunch. There's a whole bunch of models. Dude, I mean, there's 1024 00:55:45,420 --> 00:55:49,350 beautiful people when I was married to Stuart for a while. 1025 00:55:49,380 --> 00:55:54,510 What's your name? Rachel. Rachel Hunter, 1026 00:55:54,569 --> 00:55:58,229 Rachel Hunter, chico. Rachel. She's still married to Rod. 1027 00:55:59,549 --> 00:56:01,679 There's more though. Well, Richard, what's his name? 1028 00:56:01,859 --> 00:56:04,439 Murdoch is from Australia. Of course. He's an American now. 1029 00:56:04,530 --> 00:56:07,170 Right and Carrie Parker who people know less of who's 1030 00:56:07,170 --> 00:56:08,400 probably more powerful. 1031 00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:10,350 Carrie Parker. 1032 00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:13,740 Carrie Parker. Yeah, he's the other here's the other Murdock. 1033 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,160 Oh, that's right. The two sons have now started a venture 1034 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,140 together. I think yeah, 1035 00:56:19,140 --> 00:56:24,330 they're right. He's notorious gambler. He comes to Vegas. And 1036 00:56:24,330 --> 00:56:27,060 there's lots of stories about him going into Vegas and 1037 00:56:27,930 --> 00:56:31,170 Isn't he dead? I thought he died I don't know maybe he did. 1038 00:56:31,170 --> 00:56:33,870 Let's look him up. He wouldn't it wouldn't have been covered in 1039 00:56:33,870 --> 00:56:36,150 American news if he did so how would I know 1040 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:45,210 let's look it up Carrie Parker information about Carrie Parker 1041 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,240 is it with an eye or with a why? 1042 00:56:48,930 --> 00:56:52,710 It's it's I think he's a man so it probably be with a Y who 1043 00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:59,220 you don't know. UK glamour model Carrie Parker. It's not with an 1044 00:56:59,220 --> 00:57:02,430 eye which is kind of the porn spelling. 1045 00:57:03,150 --> 00:57:05,220 Yeah, there's always a variation. 1046 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:14,250 rusty nails and Carrie Parker now for the first time in a 1047 00:57:14,250 --> 00:57:16,650 world I can't find 1048 00:57:16,650 --> 00:57:20,430 anything John. Figures you're not looking it's just me looking 1049 00:57:20,430 --> 00:57:21,930 here? Yeah, because 1050 00:57:21,930 --> 00:57:24,150 I don't want to kill the hell what am I my your Google bitch. 1051 00:57:24,180 --> 00:57:28,470 Come on. You are the let's see. Okay. 1052 00:57:28,980 --> 00:57:31,440 I can't find you brought it up. You should find it 1053 00:57:31,470 --> 00:57:33,780 all right. All right. All right. All right. All right. 1054 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,720 Here we go. Australia's 200 1055 00:57:37,260 --> 00:57:41,310 Here's my Google Search. This should find it. Kerry Packer. 1056 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,810 Oh, both idiots. Kerry Packer I'm sending Parker but I typed 1057 00:57:45,810 --> 00:57:50,220 in Carrie Parker Australia mogul and got the top thing Carrie 1058 00:57:50,220 --> 00:57:56,580 Packard dead. Really? It works very. I'm my wife is actually 1059 00:57:56,580 --> 00:58:00,450 better at this than me, but I'm good. Anyway, Kerry Packer dead 1060 00:58:00,450 --> 00:58:05,880 Carrie Francis Bowlmor. Packer 68 richest man was chairman of 1061 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,180 media company, blah, blah, blah. Let me actually click on it. And 1062 00:58:09,180 --> 00:58:10,710 so just reading his summary. 1063 00:58:11,490 --> 00:58:14,490 Hey, I just came up with a great new format. Dude. This is a 1064 00:58:14,490 --> 00:58:17,220 great idea. You want to hear my IG 1065 00:58:17,250 --> 00:58:20,970 died at 68? The world's or he was Australia's richest man. 1066 00:58:21,180 --> 00:58:22,170 Yep. So 1067 00:58:22,380 --> 00:58:24,750 dude, this is a great format. 1068 00:58:25,590 --> 00:58:27,330 Think about 2005 1069 00:58:28,230 --> 00:58:29,880 Yeah, no, there you go. 1070 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:36,930 The New York Times will report it next week. So listen to this, 1071 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:41,370 it could be an audio show. It would work. It could be video as 1072 00:58:41,370 --> 00:58:45,000 well, but it's a game show. And the game show is you get these 1073 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,570 ridiculous questions. And you have to answer them and you can 1074 00:58:48,570 --> 00:58:52,440 use any resource you want on the internet. Google any other 1075 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,090 search that no one's doing it because it's things like 1076 00:58:54,090 --> 00:58:58,470 cheating, right. Next show no agenda. We'll get some 1077 00:58:58,500 --> 00:59:01,980 participants on will or maybe have a whole nother 1078 00:59:01,980 --> 00:59:05,040 show for that. People like no agenda the way it is. 1079 00:59:05,580 --> 00:59:08,520 Yeah, but we have no agenda we can do whatever we want. Can we 1080 00:59:08,580 --> 00:59:09,210 oh that's a good 1081 00:59:09,210 --> 00:59:12,570 point. Yeah, we can test it. Well then let's get some dancing 1082 00:59:12,570 --> 00:59:13,770 girls heck with this other idea. 1083 00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:18,390 And we're back to strippers. Okay, lovely. 1084 00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:23,580 So yeah, so Kerry Packer, unknown to me three years later, 1085 00:59:23,820 --> 00:59:27,630 apparently is dead. Which is kind of young you should send 1086 00:59:28,410 --> 00:59:32,760 a card we here in the United States are very sorry to hear 1087 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,630 about the passing of carry just found out 1088 00:59:37,140 --> 00:59:41,280 we just found out because we don't really follow anything by 1089 00:59:41,310 --> 00:59:44,700 by the by the way. I'm trying to get out of Nigeria and if you 1090 00:59:44,700 --> 00:59:45,930 could send me $100 million 1091 00:59:48,660 --> 00:59:51,870 so we know exactly what Britney Spears is up to but do we know 1092 00:59:51,870 --> 00:59:58,170 that Gary Powell is dead? No, no. It's so true. And here I am. 1093 00:59:58,170 --> 01:00:01,620 You know the media guy. No, and I don't know, I, you know, I 1094 01:00:01,620 --> 01:00:04,710 probably didn't know. And it just for some reason I just 1095 01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:07,110 didn't. I just wasn't thinking what your 1096 01:00:07,110 --> 01:00:08,430 point is. So Well, man, I'm 1097 01:00:08,430 --> 01:00:09,900 thinking his name is Parker for 1098 01:00:09,900 --> 01:00:14,130 coffee, it's even worse, that's even worse. I posted the 1099 01:00:14,130 --> 01:00:17,880 Wikipedia definition of bread and circuses earlier in the week 1100 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,840 on on my weblog, because that's where that's what we're living 1101 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,900 in man. We are so in bread and circuses, who gives a shit about 1102 01:00:24,900 --> 01:00:27,330 what's going on in the world, as long as we know who's who's in 1103 01:00:27,330 --> 01:00:30,030 the top 24 and American Idol. That's all. That's all that 1104 01:00:30,030 --> 01:00:30,810 matters. 1105 01:00:31,799 --> 01:00:34,379 Well, you know, my, one of my favourite shows in the US, and 1106 01:00:34,379 --> 01:00:38,129 he, and I actually don't have like, hours and hours and hours, 1107 01:00:38,129 --> 01:00:41,339 it's one of the few things that kind of record and save in a 1108 01:00:41,399 --> 01:00:46,949 episodic manner, which is Jay Leno's special that he does once 1109 01:00:46,949 --> 01:00:50,669 every couple of weeks, called jaywalking, and you walk in, he 1110 01:00:50,669 --> 01:00:53,549 goes into the street, and he's actually it was funny, or, you 1111 01:00:53,549 --> 01:00:55,769 know, a few years ago than it is now because now he's trying to 1112 01:00:55,799 --> 01:00:58,499 fancy it up. But he would go into the streets, and it would 1113 01:00:58,499 --> 01:01:00,749 just walk up to the first he tries to find people that are 1114 01:01:00,749 --> 01:01:05,279 like, you know, professors at USC, or teachers in high school, 1115 01:01:05,579 --> 01:01:08,939 or even some unit then he also picks up some dingbat students, 1116 01:01:08,939 --> 01:01:15,689 and he goes up to his personal say, so where is what country is 1117 01:01:15,689 --> 01:01:20,429 Mexico City in? And though no answer, like I've seen this, 1118 01:01:20,429 --> 01:01:23,879 I've seen it. The answer will be even more ludicrous than not 1119 01:01:23,879 --> 01:01:26,579 knowing where it is, though. Answer. What country is Mexico 1120 01:01:26,579 --> 01:01:31,499 City, Indiana? I mean, I swear to God, and it's like, this is 1121 01:01:31,499 --> 01:01:35,699 the end is one thing after another. It just astonished 1122 01:01:35,700 --> 01:01:38,760 I've seen this, can you name a country that starts with the 1123 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,100 letter U. And people are going 1124 01:01:44,730 --> 01:01:48,330 How about United States? Like oh, yeah, 1125 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:53,100 that's a good one. But you know, that's all edited. So you know, 1126 01:01:53,100 --> 01:01:53,850 you don't know how many 1127 01:01:54,810 --> 01:01:57,780 the edited I know, it's some it's phoney and then it's every 1128 01:01:57,780 --> 01:02:00,180 once in a while, you know, he's asked a question you yourself as 1129 01:02:00,180 --> 01:02:03,690 you watch, it can't answer it. But generally speaking, yeah, 1130 01:02:03,690 --> 01:02:06,660 it's edited to death. But the fact that somebody would answer 1131 01:02:06,690 --> 01:02:11,580 Indiana as to what country is Mexico City, and it's just I 1132 01:02:11,580 --> 01:02:14,250 don't care how edited it is. It's just unbelievable, right? 1133 01:02:15,390 --> 01:02:19,500 So funny. Yes, we're a fine bunch, aren't we? 1134 01:02:20,190 --> 01:02:22,620 He one of the things he likes to do on that bit is he'll have 1135 01:02:22,620 --> 01:02:25,710 pictures of people who have a famous person who have like to 1136 01:02:25,710 --> 01:02:27,840 put the President's picture up there and it says, who's this 1137 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,300 and they won't identify him. And then they'll put a picture of 1138 01:02:30,300 --> 01:02:33,480 Britney Spears or Paris Hilton in there and then laminate, do 1139 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,140 that. Does that gag a lot. And it's always the same. Nobody can 1140 01:02:37,140 --> 01:02:41,610 recognise anybody except that a small number of overhyped 1141 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:42,540 celebrities. 1142 01:02:43,050 --> 01:02:47,070 Hey, man, I'm gonna work on our game show. This is a good idea. 1143 01:02:47,310 --> 01:02:53,490 We could be the we could be like the Regis and what's, what's the 1144 01:02:53,490 --> 01:02:54,390 what's the new Nash girl? 1145 01:02:54,420 --> 01:02:56,310 No, no, Kelly, Kelly. 1146 01:02:57,330 --> 01:03:00,690 We could be Regis and Kelly. And we could do our own game show. 1147 01:03:02,430 --> 01:03:04,320 Well, my legs are better. So I might as well. 1148 01:03:04,919 --> 01:03:14,159 That's true. Not that I would know. So I think it was you 1149 01:03:14,159 --> 01:03:16,499 there's a date hasn't possibly now there was something done 1150 01:03:16,499 --> 01:03:20,579 like this on a internet tonight, which was a tech TV show. That 1151 01:03:20,579 --> 01:03:23,429 was probably the best show that they produced at Tech TV ever 1152 01:03:23,429 --> 01:03:26,549 and was killed by Paul Allen personally, because for some 1153 01:03:26,549 --> 01:03:28,829 reason, he didn't like somebody on the show. Really, even though 1154 01:03:28,829 --> 01:03:33,299 it's yeah, it's weird story. But anyway, they did something like 1155 01:03:33,299 --> 01:03:36,539 this, where they did a Google showdown about trying to find as 1156 01:03:36,539 --> 01:03:40,319 many of something as they could, but it wasn't quite what your 1157 01:03:40,319 --> 01:03:40,589 thing 1158 01:03:40,620 --> 01:03:42,300 I think it should just be whoever has the answer the 1159 01:03:42,300 --> 01:03:45,330 quickest, you know, so you just throw out a question something 1160 01:03:45,330 --> 01:03:47,700 really ridiculous. And then it 1161 01:03:47,700 --> 01:03:49,830 has to be done as it has to be done. If you're gonna do it that 1162 01:03:49,830 --> 01:03:52,860 way, then it has to be done in a you have to use the game show 1163 01:03:52,860 --> 01:03:56,100 format. So you would have three people standing there as though 1164 01:03:56,100 --> 01:04:00,750 it was, you know, Jeopardy. Yeah. And with laptops, yeah, or 1165 01:04:00,780 --> 01:04:03,960 whatever. And then the question would go out, and then the three 1166 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,540 of them would grind away on it. And these would have to 1167 01:04:06,540 --> 01:04:08,910 obviously be questions that they just can't answer on the spot. 1168 01:04:08,910 --> 01:04:09,210 Oh, so 1169 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,030 what you do is you have a set amount of time and then you have 1170 01:04:12,030 --> 01:04:15,000 the everyone has their answer written down, and then you 1171 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,380 reveal your answer one by one. Is that okay? 1172 01:04:20,070 --> 01:04:22,050 No, I was thinking that there would be a race but then I'm 1173 01:04:22,050 --> 01:04:24,000 thinking about it could be boring as watching people type 1174 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,060 into a machine. There has to be some way of eliminating the 1175 01:04:27,060 --> 01:04:29,370 boredom factor. For the viewer. I 1176 01:04:29,370 --> 01:04:32,490 think it's gonna go pretty fast. I mean, you know, it took you 1177 01:04:32,490 --> 01:04:34,710 What 15 seconds to find the answer to that. 1178 01:04:35,940 --> 01:04:40,140 It didn't take long. Well, it's looking at Oh, this is even 1179 01:04:40,140 --> 01:04:45,240 funnier. I'm looking at the search. I put in. I typed in 1180 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:53,190 Carrie Pastore occur P A s r k e R Australia mogul and then it 1181 01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:56,130 came up with the do you mean Carrie Parker, Australia mogul 1182 01:04:56,130 --> 01:04:59,430 and then even without having to click on that it had the carry 1183 01:04:59,430 --> 01:05:04,170 part pack are dead at the top. So sometimes screwing up 1184 01:05:04,170 --> 01:05:08,640 completely can actually be beneficial. works better because 1185 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,220 Google's always looking at for your screw ups and trying to 1186 01:05:11,220 --> 01:05:16,290 correct you. Interesting. Yeah, no, I think it'd be fascinating. 1187 01:05:17,460 --> 01:05:21,240 Especially if it was combined with a web site that explained 1188 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,550 how people were doing the search to get the answer because 1189 01:05:23,580 --> 01:05:27,780 there's something about learning how to do searches properly to 1190 01:05:27,780 --> 01:05:31,170 get results quick. Yeah, it's kind of I think we have a big 1191 01:05:31,170 --> 01:05:32,130 draw in itself. And it's 1192 01:05:32,130 --> 01:05:35,610 a real skill. You know, it's a it's a skill that's that we 1193 01:05:35,610 --> 01:05:37,740 should be teaching our kids so we could it could be the 1194 01:05:37,740 --> 01:05:40,290 spelling bee of the of the of the naughties. 1195 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,970 Yeah, no, I agree. I think the kids in school should be 1196 01:05:44,970 --> 01:05:48,300 learning how to do elaborate Google searches for obscure 1197 01:05:48,300 --> 01:05:49,410 information, Boolean 1198 01:05:49,410 --> 01:05:53,190 search, baby Boolean searches, or no one Boolean search 101. 1199 01:05:55,230 --> 01:05:57,720 Yeah, how many kids don't know what that means? They don't know 1200 01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,430 what that if I said it, my daughter doesn't know what that 1201 01:05:59,430 --> 01:06:01,950 means. She doesn't know about typing a plus into into Google, 1202 01:06:02,190 --> 01:06:06,120 or a minus which minus is even better than a plus often. So you 1203 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,960 can omit certain type of keywords from the results. 1204 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,360 That's that's the great stuff that you're filtering. 1205 01:06:14,340 --> 01:06:17,940 Yeah. There's a lot of little tricks. There's books 1206 01:06:18,030 --> 01:06:21,180 that we take for granted man that people know that. People 1207 01:06:21,180 --> 01:06:21,810 don't know. 1208 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,200 No, it's always amazing to me that people don't you know, I 1209 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,880 every once in a while I get a letter from a reader or once in 1210 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:34,200 a while, and John gets a letter, and it goes like this. Dear 1211 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:34,710 John. 1212 01:06:36,060 --> 01:06:39,210 I'll have somebody say, you know, do you know how that blog 1213 01:06:39,210 --> 01:06:42,360 asked me a question about something about, you know, 1214 01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,750 a letter through the US Mail? No, I'm 1215 01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:49,590 just send me an email, email. I get questions all the time. Like 1216 01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:51,450 that. So I get it. Yeah. And there's always some dumb 1217 01:06:51,450 --> 01:06:54,570 question. And what I always do is I do a Google search that 1218 01:06:54,570 --> 01:06:57,150 they should have done for the Exec. And I don't even do much 1219 01:06:57,150 --> 01:06:59,460 more than take what they wanted to know and put it in the Google 1220 01:06:59,460 --> 01:07:04,920 box. Then I cut and paste the Google URL that gave me the 1221 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,490 answer. And I give them the Google URL. So when they click 1222 01:07:08,490 --> 01:07:11,370 on it to get their answer, they see it's a Google page that I 1223 01:07:11,370 --> 01:07:14,160 had simply taken their stuff and put it in the Google thing, 1224 01:07:14,340 --> 01:07:17,190 which is saying to them, you can't do this. 1225 01:07:17,610 --> 01:07:21,270 So here's what I do. I just don't reply. 1226 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,210 But I answer all my emails, 1227 01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,060 or you answer all your emails every single one. 1228 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,230 Well, I mean, there's some that gets by email. You have 1229 01:07:31,230 --> 01:07:34,410 an empty inbox, or you have an empty inbox guy, you empty it 1230 01:07:34,410 --> 01:07:34,650 out. 1231 01:07:35,220 --> 01:07:38,760 No, no, I if I'm too busy, sometimes it'll pass over. And 1232 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,450 then if I it'll be some some stuff, just be there forever. 1233 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,820 I'm always amazed when I do a search on like, I'll look at you 1234 01:07:44,820 --> 01:07:47,760 sometimes. Adam Curtis, you were because you'd sent me a note the 1235 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,160 other day, so I wanted to see it. So I'll just do a search on 1236 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,010 the box, and I find it and it'll be every message you ever sent 1237 01:07:53,010 --> 01:07:54,960 me. And then I'll see two or three of them in there that I 1238 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,650 never looked at. You know, because they're bored, 1239 01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:02,460 or you sent you set them to unread. Do you ever do that? Or 1240 01:08:02,460 --> 01:08:05,070 like, I'll set this to unread? And that'll that will make me go 1241 01:08:05,070 --> 01:08:07,230 read it again. Which of course never happens. 1242 01:08:07,740 --> 01:08:10,770 Yeah, no, I don't even I've already given up on that idea. 1243 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,790 So but I'll see a couple now click on it. Oh, that's what he 1244 01:08:14,790 --> 01:08:16,530 was talking about the other day. 1245 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,820 Thanks for reading. That's nice. 1246 01:08:21,899 --> 01:08:24,419 It's not that often just happens if you don't send that much out. 1247 01:08:24,419 --> 01:08:25,889 So it doesn't happen to us so much. Well, I've 1248 01:08:25,890 --> 01:08:28,290 learned a long time ago, the less you send, the less you 1249 01:08:28,290 --> 01:08:28,920 receive. 1250 01:08:29,790 --> 01:08:34,080 Yeah, there's there is that all right, 1251 01:08:34,110 --> 01:08:36,300 I'm done. I think so. 1252 01:08:37,020 --> 01:08:40,080 And my wife has been surfing porn throughout the second half 1253 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:40,740 of the show. 1254 01:08:42,210 --> 01:08:45,030 So she's bored. She's very bored. 1255 01:08:45,270 --> 01:08:48,780 She wants me all to herself for the weekend. Before I leave her 1256 01:08:48,780 --> 01:08:50,790 she knows it's gonna be it's gonna be a while. 1257 01:08:52,319 --> 01:08:54,989 I think you should change your flight plans and come in through 1258 01:08:55,559 --> 01:08:56,579 Chicago. Yeah, 1259 01:08:56,610 --> 01:08:59,970 I don't think so. Coming through Chicago. 1260 01:09:00,510 --> 01:09:03,960 It'd be cool. come in through Vancouver. Hit Vancouver, BC and 1261 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,870 then come into Seattle from Vancouver from Europe. That 1262 01:09:06,870 --> 01:09:07,680 would be interesting. 1263 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:13,470 Why? Just to see if you want to trouble. Yeah, that's no. Want 1264 01:09:13,470 --> 01:09:17,430 to do that? Don't maybe you'll get into a lot of trouble this 1265 01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:17,760 time. 1266 01:09:18,359 --> 01:09:22,889 How about going to Mexico? Yeah, there now you're talking in a 1267 01:09:22,889 --> 01:09:28,919 cab? In the truck to Juana in the trunk? Well, no, that is 1268 01:09:28,919 --> 01:09:31,709 getting carried away. But I think it'd be cool to fly from 1269 01:09:31,739 --> 01:09:36,089 from London to Mexico City. Or know it or someplace in Baja. I 1270 01:09:36,089 --> 01:09:38,969 guess you get to Tijuana somehow. Get to Tijuana take a 1271 01:09:38,969 --> 01:09:43,229 cab across the border to San Diego and see what the 1272 01:09:43,229 --> 01:09:48,509 experience is. Okay, well, if you don't want to do it, let 1273 01:09:48,509 --> 01:09:50,819 somebody somebody should do it. It was also being harassed. 1274 01:09:50,999 --> 01:09:52,019 Okay, be interesting. 1275 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,390 I don't want to do it. I really don't. I just want to get on 1276 01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:54,990 with life. 1277 01:09:56,220 --> 01:09:59,130 Would be a good story goes to probably put a book around it. 1278 01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,280 Do you ever get this The application Pub Sub agent quit 1279 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:07,890 unexpectedly. Well, Pub Sub agent, what do you think that 1280 01:10:07,890 --> 01:10:08,340 does? 1281 01:10:08,849 --> 01:10:11,699 I don't know. Probably we had to rerecord the show. No. 1282 01:10:12,510 --> 01:10:14,280 Quick. Let's stop it while it's still good. 1283 01:10:15,389 --> 01:10:17,459 All right, sign off. All right. Well, 1284 01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:21,059 apologies for the sound quality. I'll work on that for next week. 1285 01:10:22,079 --> 01:10:25,889 Coming to you from a dark Friday evening in the United Kingdom. 1286 01:10:25,919 --> 01:10:26,789 I'm Adam curry. 1287 01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:30,600 And I'm out here in sunny California. I'm John C. Dvorak. 1288 01:10:30,810 --> 01:10:31,230 And we'll 1289 01:10:31,230 --> 01:10:34,890 talk to you next time, probably with a game show on no agenda.