1 00:00:03,330 --> 00:00:06,240 From behind the invisible bars that encompass the reality we 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,570 called Gitmo nation. This is your weekly tune up. We call it 3 00:00:09,570 --> 00:00:12,840 no agenda coming to you from a sunny southern England in Gitmo 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,910 nation east. I'm Adam curry. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,590 And in get mon nation West, also known as Northern Silicon 6 00:00:19,590 --> 00:00:25,140 Valley, a place doesn't exist. It doesn't exist. But I tell 7 00:00:25,140 --> 00:00:27,150 people to tell the cab driver to take you there. 8 00:00:28,559 --> 00:00:31,379 John, let me start this week show off with some excellent 9 00:00:31,379 --> 00:00:31,889 news. 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,250 You ready? Okay. 11 00:00:35,790 --> 00:00:42,540 We have now reached over 100,000 listeners per episode. Oh, we 12 00:00:42,540 --> 00:00:45,750 have in fact, two weeks ago we did 100 It's progressive, 13 00:00:45,750 --> 00:00:49,050 obviously. So you know, people are behind and catch up. Two 14 00:00:49,050 --> 00:00:53,670 weeks ago we did 135,000. And we're already over 101,000 For 15 00:00:53,670 --> 00:00:54,330 last week. 16 00:00:55,650 --> 00:01:01,140 Well, I think we did. All we need to do now is plead beg for 17 00:01:01,140 --> 00:01:03,720 to double. And we need to get to a quarter of a million this 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:03,870 year. 19 00:01:03,870 --> 00:01:05,910 Yeah, that's our next milestone. But you know what, we didn't 20 00:01:05,910 --> 00:01:08,820 even do anything. We just focused on it. And it happened. 21 00:01:09,180 --> 00:01:12,060 Now we did one week. Remember, we begged and begged people to 22 00:01:12,060 --> 00:01:13,230 tell. Yeah, but 23 00:01:13,230 --> 00:01:15,120 that's different. You know, you and I talked about, you know, 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,270 getting celebrity guests on, you know, getting Britney Spears. 25 00:01:19,230 --> 00:01:20,760 All kinds of fabulous plans. 26 00:01:22,770 --> 00:01:24,480 Just goes we're too lazy. 27 00:01:24,509 --> 00:01:28,949 That would be it too busy or just too damn lazy. I can also I 28 00:01:28,949 --> 00:01:30,779 can really tell though the audience is up because I'm 29 00:01:30,779 --> 00:01:32,489 getting more hate mail than usual. 30 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,690 Oh, hate mail. That's a good sign. What do they hate you for? 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:37,950 What is with the hate 32 00:01:37,979 --> 00:01:42,869 a lot of hate? Interestingly enough about my comments on 33 00:01:42,869 --> 00:01:47,999 vaccination. Oh, right. I mean, like a lot of people in the 34 00:01:47,999 --> 00:01:48,179 Middle 35 00:01:48,180 --> 00:01:50,850 Ages say I don't even remember you had talked on this show? Or 36 00:01:50,850 --> 00:01:52,050 was it daily source code? 37 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,510 No. Well, it's been back and forth. We talked about it 38 00:01:54,510 --> 00:01:57,960 briefly last week. In fact, one of those emails you were copied 39 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:03,450 on? And I can't remember what it was honestly, John, but I'm sure 40 00:02:03,450 --> 00:02:05,760 it was me saying something to the effect of don't let the 41 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:11,400 government stick needles in your children. Oh, yeah. So anyway, 42 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,640 but it's just, you know, after doing this for well, doing 43 00:02:14,850 --> 00:02:19,890 podcasts for four years, been in radio since I was 15. You know, 44 00:02:19,890 --> 00:02:22,290 when the audience grows, you can just feel it. So welcome, 45 00:02:22,290 --> 00:02:22,860 everybody. 46 00:02:24,659 --> 00:02:27,149 Come on out. We'll be correct now will suck. Yeah, 47 00:02:27,300 --> 00:02:30,810 exactly. Come in to Uncle Ernie, his holiday camp where we fiddle 48 00:02:30,810 --> 00:02:31,410 about. 49 00:02:32,550 --> 00:02:35,940 So I understand. It was really still it was like lousy weather 50 00:02:35,940 --> 00:02:37,950 back. There was where people were getting flooded. Schools 51 00:02:37,950 --> 00:02:39,120 are being closed. Yeah, 52 00:02:39,180 --> 00:02:43,350 unbelievably, today has been absolutely fantastic. But yes, 53 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,220 in the Midlands, and in the north, where that always 54 00:02:47,220 --> 00:02:53,010 happens, just because of the geography, flooding. But the 55 00:02:53,010 --> 00:02:56,700 weather has just been extremely bad. Until of course they 56 00:02:56,700 --> 00:02:58,950 flipped on the Large Hadron Collider. Now it's all clear 57 00:02:58,950 --> 00:03:03,720 enough. So that gives us some good, but now the worst thing 58 00:03:03,750 --> 00:03:06,810 actually is the wheat crop. And they're not no one's really 59 00:03:06,810 --> 00:03:11,910 talking about that here. But you can say to grow wheat. Yeah. For 60 00:03:11,940 --> 00:03:16,740 for bread and stuff. In England. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, what do 61 00:03:16,740 --> 00:03:18,300 you think they make those crop circles in? 62 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,100 Oh, I'd say yeah. Now that you mentioned it. Yeah, I guess it 63 00:03:23,100 --> 00:03:25,260 would be it could be some 64 00:03:25,379 --> 00:03:31,889 so so the problem is that the rain wiped out like now. It's a 65 00:03:31,889 --> 00:03:35,579 third of the of the normal crop that they would have. So prices 66 00:03:35,609 --> 00:03:40,649 of wheat are now triple what they normally are. And now 67 00:03:40,649 --> 00:03:43,229 they're gearing up to import wheat from Germany, 68 00:03:43,229 --> 00:03:48,299 interestingly enough, who had a banner year? They did 20 or 25% 69 00:03:48,299 --> 00:03:52,289 Better than normal, but it's rough man. Because I mean, yeah, 70 00:03:52,289 --> 00:03:55,229 it's, you think just bread but I think weed is used in a lot of 71 00:03:55,229 --> 00:03:59,219 stuff. So it is going to impact impact food prices once again. 72 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,400 Yeah, well, the funny thing is when the food prices go up, they 73 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:03,600 don't usually come down. 74 00:04:04,349 --> 00:04:09,269 That well. Look at gasoline costs a lot of this oil going 75 00:04:09,269 --> 00:04:11,819 down gasoline going up. It makes so much sense. 76 00:04:12,060 --> 00:04:14,430 My gasoline is going down around here. I don't know what you're 77 00:04:14,430 --> 00:04:20,280 talking about. The oil prices are going to collapse. I mean, 78 00:04:20,280 --> 00:04:22,170 right now it seems just teetering. 79 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,350 Oh, yeah. Once it gets I think the the next bottom is probably 80 00:04:25,380 --> 00:04:28,140 it's got to be like 95 or something. And then it's just 81 00:04:28,140 --> 00:04:30,480 going to slide all the way down to 60. 82 00:04:32,010 --> 00:04:34,410 Eye that'd be nice if it gets back to 40. 83 00:04:35,430 --> 00:04:38,190 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if if they're going to lay down 84 00:04:38,190 --> 00:04:39,000 that direction. 85 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,580 They're doing all these things now to try to prop it up because 86 00:04:41,580 --> 00:04:42,570 they're freaked. Well, 87 00:04:43,170 --> 00:04:47,310 I was talking to my, my buddy, my Halliburton friend who works 88 00:04:47,310 --> 00:04:51,270 for a UK company which does all infrastructure for oil drilling 89 00:04:51,270 --> 00:04:54,750 projects. He knows a lot about this stuff. And that he says 90 00:04:54,750 --> 00:04:58,500 that today to get oil out of the ground, the actual 91 00:04:58,500 --> 00:05:04,860 infrastructure and people It's already around $40 Just to 40 to 92 00:05:04,860 --> 00:05:08,640 $45 per barrel just to get it out of the ground. It's double 93 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,730 that if you if you're trying to get it out of like the North Sea 94 00:05:11,730 --> 00:05:14,550 as an example. And that's because there's just the 95 00:05:14,580 --> 00:05:17,340 equipment isn't there, the people aren't there, they cannot 96 00:05:17,340 --> 00:05:21,870 recruit and recruit enough people to do the surveys to do 97 00:05:21,870 --> 00:05:25,230 the work. I mean, it's a it's unbelievable the supply and 98 00:05:25,230 --> 00:05:28,200 demand of the workforce and the materials has just boosted that 99 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,780 price the ground floor base price up. 100 00:05:32,850 --> 00:05:36,270 I wonder what they pay somebody to be on an oil rig. 101 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:42,900 Oh, it's huge money. Oh, dude, I know, a cab driver. Now a taxi 102 00:05:42,900 --> 00:05:45,510 Eric, who you will meet when you go to Amsterdam, because he will 103 00:05:45,510 --> 00:05:50,580 be driving you around. And he was on the on one of the 104 00:05:50,580 --> 00:05:54,360 drilling platforms and the North Sea. And yeah, it was like, I 105 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,450 think was two weeks on one week off. And he said, Yeah, it was 106 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,660 great money. He said he had to stop because it was just it was 107 00:06:00,660 --> 00:06:03,930 freaking him out how dangerous he really was. But yeah, it's 108 00:06:03,930 --> 00:06:05,010 like, like this 109 00:06:05,790 --> 00:06:08,250 crowd. It was great money. I mean, what are we talking about 110 00:06:08,250 --> 00:06:09,360 here? At least 111 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,990 double what he's making on the cab. So you know, for manual 112 00:06:12,990 --> 00:06:14,460 labour, I think great work. 113 00:06:15,450 --> 00:06:18,780 Now we need to get some specifics. I'll add $100 an 114 00:06:18,780 --> 00:06:19,230 hour. 115 00:06:19,650 --> 00:06:22,980 I'll ask him. I'll ask him. But 116 00:06:24,180 --> 00:06:26,550 I know the guys who have a couple of friends who ended up 117 00:06:26,550 --> 00:06:29,640 going to Iraq and they live in the green zone. They're private 118 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:30,840 contractors. Huge 119 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:31,260 money, I'll 120 00:06:31,260 --> 00:06:35,670 bet huge money hundreds of 1000s of dollars like two $300,000 a 121 00:06:35,670 --> 00:06:36,330 year just to 122 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,140 I've actually heard that there that they've paid off. That's 123 00:06:40,140 --> 00:06:43,920 like $35,000 spot bonuses to lieutenants and captains in 124 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,030 Iraq. Well, that's the surge. 125 00:06:48,660 --> 00:06:51,780 Maybe it's just a surge of money surge of taxpayers money 126 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:59,670 and money surge. That's right. Speaking of of oil and and 127 00:06:59,670 --> 00:07:04,230 surge, the big news this weekend over here in the United Kingdom 128 00:07:04,230 --> 00:07:07,680 is the bankruptcy of X L. Travel. 129 00:07:08,850 --> 00:07:10,200 XL XL. What 130 00:07:10,260 --> 00:07:13,080 XL? I think it's travel or aviation. And let me see. I 131 00:07:14,580 --> 00:07:16,920 think it's a package tour company. 132 00:07:17,730 --> 00:07:21,660 And why would that be big news? Because 89 We get Lehmann 133 00:07:21,660 --> 00:07:22,320 Brothers going 134 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,980 down. Oh, wait, let's listen to me. I'm getting to the bottom in 135 00:07:25,980 --> 00:07:33,780 a second. Lien. XL is 89,000 Britons who are now in vacation 136 00:07:33,780 --> 00:07:37,830 destinations who can't get back. Oh, you think you think that's a 137 00:07:37,830 --> 00:07:38,340 problem? 138 00:07:40,260 --> 00:07:41,940 That's a good number. 89 139 00:07:41,970 --> 00:07:45,570 years 50,000 passengers stranded who booked with XL tour 140 00:07:45,570 --> 00:07:49,020 operators 10,000 who booked with the air the airline because it's 141 00:07:49,020 --> 00:07:52,650 a combo deal. Where you can get it separately? 25,000 142 00:07:52,740 --> 00:07:58,620 Are these like? Oh shit, I'm sorry. These like, not your 143 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:04,470 connection got weird. It's okay. I got you. The Are these like 144 00:08:04,470 --> 00:08:07,170 charter flights? Is that the reason? Because normally when I 145 00:08:07,170 --> 00:08:09,270 booked through if I booked through a travel company to give 146 00:08:09,270 --> 00:08:13,050 me some tickets, I have a ticket round trip on united and I 147 00:08:13,050 --> 00:08:13,290 wouldn't 148 00:08:13,740 --> 00:08:16,020 No, no, they have they have their own aircraft. And it's 149 00:08:16,050 --> 00:08:19,350 it's kind of an interesting company. It's a hybrid. So they 150 00:08:19,620 --> 00:08:22,920 they typically book vacations with the flight but you can also 151 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,850 just book a flight because they're they're so big. They had 152 00:08:26,850 --> 00:08:32,790 200,000 advanced bookings those people their money's gone. The 153 00:08:32,790 --> 00:08:36,270 guy the chairman Philip what he was crying on television dude, 154 00:08:36,300 --> 00:08:40,350 literally crying. Although I don't get it. I mean, who? What 155 00:08:40,350 --> 00:08:42,720 the hell is the regulator over here doing if these guys were in 156 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,210 such dire straits, you'd think that maybe you want to check on 157 00:08:45,210 --> 00:08:47,550 their maintenance and some other stuff. They knew 158 00:08:47,550 --> 00:08:51,480 about it. So what was the the the rationale for the folding 159 00:08:52,110 --> 00:08:52,470 mean? 160 00:08:52,500 --> 00:08:57,120 Oh, well, so they had they've converted a line of credit from 161 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,510 Barclays into a loan and then Barclays said Okay, that's it, 162 00:09:00,510 --> 00:09:06,090 no more money and all of their suppliers, ie landing fees, 163 00:09:06,090 --> 00:09:10,320 airports, etc. And of course, fuel required immediate Pash 164 00:09:10,350 --> 00:09:14,400 cash payments. And so it just, you know, it's just that magical 165 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,730 moment. Barclays just Yeah. Yeah. Thanks to Barclays, I 166 00:09:17,730 --> 00:09:21,960 would say well, you know, but Barclays was probably right. And 167 00:09:22,110 --> 00:09:24,360 currently the thing that's gotten so expensive for these 168 00:09:24,390 --> 00:09:28,290 for any airline certainly in Europe is the co2 tax. That's 169 00:09:28,290 --> 00:09:32,940 what's really killing everybody. And sorry, the co2 tax 170 00:09:35,940 --> 00:09:40,110 his words his words headed here to this some bogus tax Yeah, 171 00:09:40,140 --> 00:09:42,750 hey, let's see. Let me see here. Let's look at us can we tax 172 00:09:42,750 --> 00:09:46,680 these guys for you know, I liked a co2 idea because it's kind of 173 00:09:46,680 --> 00:09:48,720 so nebulous, you know, you can't prove it one way or the other. 174 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,380 So let's just tax them for for their emissions are already 175 00:09:52,380 --> 00:09:55,170 being taxed for the gas when they buy it going into net 176 00:09:55,170 --> 00:09:57,960 account for this. No, no, no, let's just make another tax out 177 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,600 of the blue and we'll call it co2. Actually nobody will 178 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,660 complain about it because all these drink freaks will think is 179 00:10:03,660 --> 00:10:04,470 just cool. 180 00:10:04,649 --> 00:10:06,929 I'm sure you blogged this somewhere and I can't remember 181 00:10:06,929 --> 00:10:10,469 who it was. It was some official and he came out and said, You 182 00:10:10,469 --> 00:10:14,189 need to eat less meat to save on carbon emissions. Did you? Did 183 00:10:14,189 --> 00:10:17,249 you read that story? And yeah, it's like an amazing it's like, 184 00:10:17,279 --> 00:10:19,589 you know, because this is what's gonna happen next. First, 185 00:10:19,589 --> 00:10:21,389 they're going to absolutely they're going to say, look, 186 00:10:21,419 --> 00:10:27,449 okay, you've got for 400 head of cattle. They all take a dump 187 00:10:27,449 --> 00:10:28,529 about six times. 188 00:10:29,039 --> 00:10:33,029 I'm telling you, this is a bunch of vegetarian, vegan, vegan, 189 00:10:33,029 --> 00:10:35,609 whatever you want to call them people behind all this. 190 00:10:35,940 --> 00:10:40,470 It's the greenies ma'am, them greenies. So the next thing of 191 00:10:40,470 --> 00:10:43,170 course, as they've, as they've now successfully taxed, one of 192 00:10:43,170 --> 00:10:46,650 the four elements of life being sunlight, water, oxygen, and 193 00:10:46,650 --> 00:10:50,100 carbon dioxide, is you're going to be taxed on how much you 194 00:10:50,100 --> 00:10:50,640 speak. 195 00:10:51,539 --> 00:10:53,999 It could be we're toast the only times 196 00:10:54,030 --> 00:10:57,900 yeah. particularly well, we get double tax because what comes 197 00:10:57,900 --> 00:11:00,540 out of our mouth is bullshit, which is also of course harmful 198 00:11:00,540 --> 00:11:05,400 to the environment. Methane. It's a it's a lethal methane and 199 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,960 meeting from their offices. Hmm. All right. You ready for Lehman 200 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,630 Brothers? Is that bottom there yet? John, you sure you think 201 00:11:12,660 --> 00:11:13,920 you think there's a bottom here? 202 00:11:14,010 --> 00:11:15,720 Yeah, we're bouncing around and I can feel it. 203 00:11:17,220 --> 00:11:22,440 Dude, it's Lehman. Is Washington Mutual? It's Merrill Lynch. And 204 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:28,110 this morning I know if you've read the papers yet. The so 205 00:11:28,110 --> 00:11:33,000 first the Congressional Budget. What does it office nothing or 206 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:38,250 oversight. Nuttall guy or whatever it Nussle whatever his 207 00:11:38,250 --> 00:11:40,890 name is, he said, Oh, I think Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac 208 00:11:40,890 --> 00:11:45,240 should be on the books of the US government. And boy that got 209 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:50,970 turned around. Someone held a gun to his head that I don't 210 00:11:50,970 --> 00:11:54,810 think you'd really want to say that dude. So now he's he's 211 00:11:54,810 --> 00:12:00,240 pulled back. It's funny. This guy is a total, total reptilian. 212 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:06,810 He's an insider. He used to work at the Treasury. His wife is 213 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:13,470 connected, looking for his name. But it's that's pretty big to 214 00:12:13,470 --> 00:12:17,670 hear it is what's his name, Jim Nussle, Director of the White 215 00:12:17,670 --> 00:12:19,740 House Office of Management and Budget. 216 00:12:23,039 --> 00:12:26,279 Yeah, this guy should be told not to talk to anybody ever. 217 00:12:26,549 --> 00:12:31,409 So the What's that? Well, that's kind of his job. Oh, but the way 218 00:12:31,409 --> 00:12:34,559 I understand it is doesn't mean he has to do it. That's true. 219 00:12:35,189 --> 00:12:39,749 The way I understand it, is that the the Treasury is now of 220 00:12:39,749 --> 00:12:42,929 course, they're doing another weekend deal. And Paulson has 221 00:12:42,929 --> 00:12:46,139 said, no way. We're not going to bail him out. Lehman has the 222 00:12:46,139 --> 00:12:51,659 same debt window, you know, the discount window facility. So you 223 00:12:51,659 --> 00:12:54,989 guys, you other bankers, let's go figure it out. We split it up 224 00:12:54,989 --> 00:13:00,029 into pieces, and no one wants to do it. Which means to me that 225 00:13:00,029 --> 00:13:03,599 this just either there's no value left in the company, or 226 00:13:03,599 --> 00:13:06,869 it's too damn difficult to actually figure out what the 227 00:13:06,869 --> 00:13:07,679 value is. 228 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,880 So it was weird. That guy there sucks. Some guy came up with a 229 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,930 book on this. And on laming going, or Lehman, whatever you 230 00:13:15,930 --> 00:13:19,740 want to call him going under, about I was about five or three, 231 00:13:19,740 --> 00:13:22,950 four or five months ago, and he was he was on CNBC being grilled 232 00:13:22,950 --> 00:13:26,820 by that morning crew. They were just, they and the guy was 233 00:13:26,820 --> 00:13:28,800 pretty, he says, here's the questions that need to be 234 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,660 answered. He was talking about some things that were on the 235 00:13:30,660 --> 00:13:33,630 books that had no explanation. And it's just a night I've 236 00:13:33,630 --> 00:13:35,520 talked to the company directly, they've never answered these 237 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,460 questions and bobble and these guys were just kind of like 238 00:13:38,790 --> 00:13:42,990 grilling him as though you know, this can't possibly be true. And 239 00:13:42,990 --> 00:13:46,170 I was kind of kind of stunned by although I was not totally 240 00:13:46,170 --> 00:13:49,200 stunned. But there's there's there's still this this wishful 241 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,760 thinking in the in the community out there that people who who 242 00:13:53,790 --> 00:13:58,290 cover this topic for the public, you know, on CNBC or wherever 243 00:13:58,290 --> 00:14:03,630 they are the and this includes the thing about the oil 244 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:09,810 manipulation that we've documented to death and the fact 245 00:14:09,810 --> 00:14:13,710 that it was you know, this illegal essentially speculation 246 00:14:14,100 --> 00:14:14,640 done 247 00:14:16,649 --> 00:14:19,229 a cover that's that's not the real that's not what's really 248 00:14:19,229 --> 00:14:22,349 happening John is being manipulated but the whole trader 249 00:14:22,349 --> 00:14:24,749 thing that's just a front I'm convinced of it now. But anyway, 250 00:14:25,619 --> 00:14:26,339 the grass 251 00:14:27,210 --> 00:14:30,390 Yeah. And boy, you digressed into the into the sea. What are 252 00:14:30,390 --> 00:14:31,440 you talking about? 253 00:14:32,370 --> 00:14:34,530 This is being minute this is not being this is 254 00:14:34,950 --> 00:14:37,830 not, don't tell me that you think it's space aliens? 255 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:43,260 Only if you make my big if you give me my theme tune? No, this 256 00:14:43,260 --> 00:14:46,740 is the IMF and the World Bank. They're manipulating it. They 257 00:14:46,740 --> 00:14:49,410 know it. They know exactly what they're doing. And they're doing 258 00:14:49,410 --> 00:14:51,720 it too and they're successful at it because they're bankrupting 259 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,720 the Middle East. They've look at what's happened with Russia. A 260 00:14:55,980 --> 00:14:59,970 big part of it, of course is because of the Georgia con 261 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,680 flicked you know people are going belly up their oil 262 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,130 companies freaking out I thought that I think there's this 263 00:15:08,130 --> 00:15:11,400 completely orchestrated and at the same time what what is 264 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,860 everyone calling for? What are the Republicans calling for 265 00:15:13,890 --> 00:15:15,000 drill baby drill 266 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:21,029 well orchestrated to what end it's a financial orchestration 267 00:15:21,389 --> 00:15:26,039 fought to what end? to bankrupt the Middle East. You said yeah 268 00:15:26,070 --> 00:15:33,450 to bankrupt the Middle East to bankrupt Russia. to bankrupt to 269 00:15:33,450 --> 00:15:36,630 get rid of the I think the whole financial I think the plan was, 270 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,800 honestly now that I look at it. The plan was probably to destroy 271 00:15:41,730 --> 00:15:46,350 the whole system to start off with the whole system, the whole 272 00:15:46,350 --> 00:15:49,770 financial system and oil is tied right into that it's money. 273 00:15:51,059 --> 00:15:52,229 But to what end? 274 00:15:53,100 --> 00:15:57,330 To what end to read well to kill people. 275 00:15:57,990 --> 00:15:59,700 I mean, to what end, I mean, there's got to be a 276 00:15:59,730 --> 00:16:03,090 tickle to guess the goal is to kill people to reduce the 277 00:16:03,809 --> 00:16:06,539 Y or to reduce the population. This is where you're going with 278 00:16:06,539 --> 00:16:06,869 this. 279 00:16:07,679 --> 00:16:10,499 That's that's certainly a direction I'm starting to look. 280 00:16:10,499 --> 00:16:16,679 Yeah. Yeah, for sure. All right. Well, I'm not quite I'm not 281 00:16:16,679 --> 00:16:18,419 quite ready to expand on it, but 282 00:16:19,590 --> 00:16:20,730 I will mull it over. 283 00:16:21,149 --> 00:16:23,369 It's all part of the same thing. It's the same thing with the 284 00:16:23,369 --> 00:16:24,329 vaccinations. 285 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:31,770 So how comes the letters? That's why I mentioned it. So So what 286 00:16:31,770 --> 00:16:33,180 have you been drinking recently? 287 00:16:33,209 --> 00:16:36,209 No, man, nothing at all. I've been smoked. I have no I haven't 288 00:16:36,209 --> 00:16:37,139 been smoking either. 289 00:16:38,340 --> 00:16:40,590 I'm Oh, maybe that's the problem that I'm completely 290 00:16:40,589 --> 00:16:42,209 clear headed. Completely. 291 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,420 So you're not drinking tea? You're not? Actually today 292 00:16:45,420 --> 00:16:48,870 I have. I decided to change now. I'm drinking coffee for the 293 00:16:48,870 --> 00:16:49,260 show. 294 00:16:49,740 --> 00:16:50,610 Oh, God. 295 00:16:52,350 --> 00:16:53,340 It's, well, 296 00:16:53,429 --> 00:16:55,049 if you're not a coffee personality, 297 00:16:55,229 --> 00:17:00,299 you want to laugh? Of course. Okay. So I've actually I decided 298 00:17:00,299 --> 00:17:03,419 to try out some of the freeze dried coffee that I bought, 299 00:17:03,509 --> 00:17:05,909 which I've styled which I've stocked up on with a number of 300 00:17:05,909 --> 00:17:10,019 other essential life saving ingredients for when the food 301 00:17:10,019 --> 00:17:14,939 crisis hits Britain. So I can make all kinds of stuff here at 302 00:17:14,939 --> 00:17:17,129 home and I figured I'd try some see how it tastes and it's not 303 00:17:17,129 --> 00:17:17,489 bad 304 00:17:18,630 --> 00:17:20,550 you're drinking instant coffee. 305 00:17:21,450 --> 00:17:22,500 Freeze Dried yep 306 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,490 that's all freeze dried nowadays. I think farmers 307 00:17:27,150 --> 00:17:28,560 aperitive coffees left 308 00:17:31,140 --> 00:17:34,140 Oh, dude, here's the big news from over here. Did you hear 309 00:17:34,140 --> 00:17:35,280 about the tunnel fire 310 00:17:35,999 --> 00:17:39,569 Yeah, I heard about that did get in fact we blogged it that was 311 00:17:39,569 --> 00:17:43,289 pretty severe Yeah, I guess it closed down that don't hold the 312 00:17:43,289 --> 00:17:46,799 one side of the tunnel that track the transport side 313 00:17:46,830 --> 00:17:50,370 yeah for for this now going on three days I mean, this thing 314 00:17:50,370 --> 00:17:54,570 burned for like nine hours 1000 degrees centigrade. And what's 315 00:17:54,570 --> 00:17:58,350 interesting to me John is not one single newspaper and I just 316 00:17:58,350 --> 00:18:01,590 went to the newspaper stand to pick up my my financial times 317 00:18:01,590 --> 00:18:06,630 weekly are weakened not one single newspaper even hinted of 318 00:18:06,630 --> 00:18:10,680 terrorism even though there were explosions that was fires all 319 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,190 kinds of shit going on how come no one talks about that how what 320 00:18:14,190 --> 00:18:14,940 is up with that 321 00:18:17,610 --> 00:18:20,910 you know there was some mention of it in the in our side of the 322 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,080 well not only it wasn't like played up much I mean they mean 323 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,290 Bush didn't come out or anything I mean it was just kind of in 324 00:18:28,290 --> 00:18:31,410 passing and they decided it wasn't what what was the final 325 00:18:31,410 --> 00:18:32,910 determination what causes fire 326 00:18:32,940 --> 00:18:36,120 they still have not been able to explain that but they did there 327 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:39,150 was there were all kinds of chemicals toxic really toxic 328 00:18:39,150 --> 00:18:44,460 shit I could probably find actually looked it up I forgot 329 00:18:44,460 --> 00:18:48,240 the name of it. phenol that's what it was. phenol phenol? 330 00:18:48,270 --> 00:18:51,900 Yeah. phenol nasty stuff that's in a very nasty stuff. There was 331 00:18:51,900 --> 00:18:54,780 a tanker full of phenol and then that went out Oh, 332 00:18:54,990 --> 00:18:58,770 yeah, stuff that they shouldn't allow that in the channel will 333 00:18:58,770 --> 00:19:02,010 take phenol on the on the on the continent they don't need this 334 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,320 ship wasn't coming from that. Where was it coming from? 335 00:19:04,769 --> 00:19:07,259 Well, I guess it was coming from the UK, but it's very easy to 336 00:19:07,259 --> 00:19:09,539 make I understand. Yeah. phenols 337 00:19:09,540 --> 00:19:14,910 is it's like a bike planter. It's a common, commonly used 338 00:19:14,940 --> 00:19:18,660 chemical in the industrial and chemical production of all kinds 339 00:19:18,660 --> 00:19:22,800 of things, plastics, drugs, and everything else. Yeah, 340 00:19:22,830 --> 00:19:25,890 they also used to work with injecting people in a world war 341 00:19:25,890 --> 00:19:29,160 two and kill them. According to ways 342 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,700 to work with this stuff in Union oil is very interesting. One of 343 00:19:32,700 --> 00:19:35,430 the things about it is you it's like a lot of these other 344 00:19:35,430 --> 00:19:39,150 chemicals, you anyone who's been a professional chemist for any 345 00:19:39,330 --> 00:19:42,690 period of time realise that they all do this. Especially when 346 00:19:42,690 --> 00:19:45,000 you're working with some of these these toxic materials you 347 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,510 use. You're sniffing yourself constantly, because this stuff 348 00:19:48,510 --> 00:19:51,540 splashes you get like little micro micro droplets on 349 00:19:51,540 --> 00:19:56,490 yourself. Yeah. And, and you'll you'll, you'll sniff your your 350 00:19:56,490 --> 00:19:58,770 hand you'll just be sniffing away all over your hand just to 351 00:19:58,770 --> 00:20:02,820 see if you can spot At a micro droplet of phenol, if it lands 352 00:20:02,820 --> 00:20:03,810 on you because our 353 00:20:03,810 --> 00:20:05,460 cement and burn into your flesh. 354 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,520 Well, it does a little bit I mean, just the little, it does, 355 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,950 but you can smell it, it has this very distinctive odour, 356 00:20:13,950 --> 00:20:19,680 it's actually quasi pleasant. And then you just wash it off or 357 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,310 you put some, you know, some something to counteract it just 358 00:20:23,310 --> 00:20:26,490 to change its structure. But you'd get the you know, you do 359 00:20:26,490 --> 00:20:29,370 that. But phenol is the problem with phenols. It turns into 360 00:20:29,460 --> 00:20:32,730 apparently, when it gives absorbed through the skin. This 361 00:20:32,730 --> 00:20:35,490 is from years ago, I can't remember the details, but as 362 00:20:35,490 --> 00:20:38,670 absorbed into the skin is the problem if you get it on you. 363 00:20:39,060 --> 00:20:42,420 And it is slightly corrosive, but it gets on your gets into 364 00:20:42,420 --> 00:20:44,940 your system. And then it turns it goes through the liver and 365 00:20:44,940 --> 00:20:48,570 kidneys and turns into benzene, which is very, really a bad 366 00:20:48,570 --> 00:20:52,440 thing to have in inside you. And it's carcinogenic. So 367 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:58,350 I'm told I'm reliably informed. So I don't know. But yeah, I'm 368 00:20:58,350 --> 00:21:01,200 looking at the most recent article, see if they have any 369 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,740 news on on what caused it. But some of the eyewitness accounts 370 00:21:04,740 --> 00:21:09,390 were that there were multiple explosions. Here today it says 371 00:21:09,390 --> 00:21:12,870 temperatures reached as high as 1000 degrees Celsius, according 372 00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:16,050 to the French interior minister. But 373 00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:20,640 that's interesting, because I don't see what you get 374 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,440 exploiting that, you know, unless you're getting some kind 375 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,630 of weird reactions. I mean, what kind of chemicals are they 376 00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:28,290 carrying in these tankers? Because phenol is not explosive? 377 00:21:29,190 --> 00:21:30,360 You know, per se. 378 00:21:30,930 --> 00:21:33,840 I'll have to I'll have to look that was in yesterday's paper. I 379 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,330 think so apparently they they said it was going to resume this 380 00:21:36,330 --> 00:21:39,120 morning. I haven't heard a news report that actually did resume 381 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:43,500 yet. But I saw all the all the lorries as we call them all 382 00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:46,620 lined up, and I'm like, Whoa, man that could disrupt the 383 00:21:46,650 --> 00:21:47,400 supplies? 384 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,450 Well, you know, it seems to me that that if it was terrorism, 385 00:21:51,690 --> 00:21:53,760 they would have made a big deal about it. 386 00:21:54,420 --> 00:21:58,530 Or maybe it was actually, you know, like a real honest mistake 387 00:21:58,530 --> 00:22:00,750 and something went wrong. And it wasn't one of those planned 388 00:22:00,750 --> 00:22:04,710 false flag operations that they usually dish out. And they 389 00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:07,200 didn't have time to get to the press office for this one. 390 00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:12,240 You know, that did most of your stuff was pretty wacky. But that 391 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,750 one that's out there, right? I mean, that was that's within the 392 00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:18,300 range of well, you know, it's possible. 393 00:22:18,390 --> 00:22:22,050 Well, let's talk for a second about the liquid bombers on 394 00:22:22,050 --> 00:22:24,960 aeroplanes. Then another huge new story this week in the 395 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,860 United Kingdom. I hope that trickled over to this one. 396 00:22:28,860 --> 00:22:32,610 You're kidding me? Oh, my goodness, more liquid bombers. 397 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,380 No, this must be shaken. Bottles of we're gonna love this. So 398 00:22:37,410 --> 00:22:41,100 they convicted out of the seven guys, the ringleader, they had 399 00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:43,260 to let go. He didn't you know, they couldn't convict him of 400 00:22:43,260 --> 00:22:46,320 anything. They can, they could only convict three of these 401 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:51,750 guys. And from the documents is now apparent that they had not 402 00:22:51,780 --> 00:22:56,160 built a single bomb. Most of them did not have passports, 403 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,360 they certainly had not booked any tickets. And the jury said 404 00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:06,090 we cannot convict them of even plotting to blow up aeroplanes 405 00:23:06,300 --> 00:23:09,960 by carrying liquids and onto the aircraft and mixing them on 406 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,910 board. So they were convicted of conspiring, murderous action. 407 00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:17,790 And these guys, these guys themselves say, well, we just 408 00:23:17,790 --> 00:23:20,670 want to make a little bang somewhere in London to get 409 00:23:20,670 --> 00:23:23,220 attention for some kind of documentary they were making or 410 00:23:23,220 --> 00:23:26,220 something, which is why you know, they had this high quality 411 00:23:26,220 --> 00:23:28,920 jihadist videos. Of course, I can't understand what they're 412 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,100 saying. But I'm told that they're jihadist videos. So they 413 00:23:32,130 --> 00:23:35,040 know that these guys were making it like a movie or a documentary 414 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,730 and they were clearly twisted. But they were not, according to 415 00:23:38,730 --> 00:23:43,110 the jury not contemplating blowing up aeroplanes with 416 00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:46,590 liquid bombs. So Virgin Atlantic is the first one love these 417 00:23:46,590 --> 00:23:49,470 guys, the first ones who come out and say, okay, great, that's 418 00:23:49,470 --> 00:23:52,530 fantastic. Now that that's all settled, can we please stop the 419 00:23:52,530 --> 00:23:58,650 ridiculous fucking bullshit of no more than 100 millilitres of 420 00:23:58,650 --> 00:24:01,170 liquid being carried on to the plane and you know what the 421 00:24:01,170 --> 00:24:05,610 response was from the government or from the court? We got to 422 00:24:05,610 --> 00:24:10,710 retry these guys. Literally, they're gonna retry them. I 423 00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:13,620 mean, double jeopardy has already gone here. It's like, 424 00:24:13,650 --> 00:24:15,960 okay, you were convicted, you're guilty, but none of that. Well, 425 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,320 we got to go back again. I'm sorry. And fully before these 426 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,800 guys were let let go free, not convicted. They could 427 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,350 probably trump up some new charges. I mean, the great thing 428 00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:28,290 about today's legal system is that if you to double jeopardy 429 00:24:28,290 --> 00:24:33,240 thing has always been a craw or a crisis a stone in the craw I 430 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,080 can't remember the phrase it's always gotten the thorn in the 431 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,610 side it's a thorn in the side there we go of these prosecutors 432 00:24:41,610 --> 00:24:44,400 and so that you make the law so complicated that if you can't 433 00:24:44,430 --> 00:24:47,280 you okay you're you're out on law you know, sections this is 434 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,190 this but there's section this lesson is we're going to refile 435 00:24:50,340 --> 00:24:53,190 with a different you know, charge, you know, like the one 436 00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:56,940 you said they got convicted of planning murderous acts or 437 00:24:56,940 --> 00:24:59,100 talking badly about the bride and 438 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:03,089 exhaling Do to you dirty bastards. So I 439 00:25:03,090 --> 00:25:05,460 mean, there's essentially there's there's an limitless 440 00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:08,640 number of laws that you can be prosecuted under if somebody's 441 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,080 out to get you. And you know, or to make a point now that there 442 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,330 must be some other reason to keep these liquids off of 443 00:25:15,330 --> 00:25:19,140 planes. I can think of one, I've travelled with people who 444 00:25:19,890 --> 00:25:24,780 overpack and bring entire bottles of shampoo that are like 445 00:25:24,780 --> 00:25:28,740 this huge bottle of some shampoo you get on sale at Costco that's 446 00:25:28,740 --> 00:25:32,460 got a pump at the top, and they pack it with theirs suitcase and 447 00:25:32,460 --> 00:25:35,820 luggage and they go to, you know, the Europe for three days, 448 00:25:36,210 --> 00:25:39,480 with this big giant bottle of shampoo or whatever it is. I 449 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,780 mean, there's, I think anything to encourage people to travel 450 00:25:42,780 --> 00:25:46,800 lightly charging for extra bags. I'm all for it. charging for 451 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,920 extra bag, keep the liquids off the planes, it's mostly to keep 452 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,270 people from overpacking. 453 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:58,710 Oh, okay. All right. I see it a little bit differently. Just a 454 00:25:58,710 --> 00:26:03,150 little bit. No, I'm, you know, and it's weird. Because you 455 00:26:03,150 --> 00:26:05,820 think to yourself, well, oh, you know, great, they can actually, 456 00:26:05,820 --> 00:26:09,690 you know, so it wasn't a threat. The scientists are on record now 457 00:26:09,690 --> 00:26:13,350 in in, you know, mainstream newspapers saying, look, it's 458 00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:17,190 just really not that easy to go mix up something powerful enough 459 00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:21,990 on an aeroplane with multiple elements. And then you think to 460 00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:24,150 yourself, well, great now, so they can just remove all that 461 00:26:24,150 --> 00:26:27,420 those stupid restrictions, and in the back, but in the back of 462 00:26:27,420 --> 00:26:30,570 your mind, you've got something going like, Well, shit, you 463 00:26:30,570 --> 00:26:34,680 know, maybe we've even I've been conditioned at this point. 464 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,170 Yeah, well, yeah. Well, everybody has them. And that's 465 00:26:37,170 --> 00:26:39,360 the idea. We're just a bunch of robots. But you know, the funny 466 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:42,510 thing that joke of this is, is you can make a pretty damn good 467 00:26:42,510 --> 00:26:46,140 explosive with three ounces of I can name a couple of chemicals 468 00:26:46,590 --> 00:26:49,860 that are liquid that would blow the back of the plane off. I 469 00:26:49,860 --> 00:26:52,200 mean, it's just so the whole thing is bull. 470 00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:55,710 Yeah, I mean, of course, it's all Bull. I still love Heathrow 471 00:26:55,710 --> 00:26:59,400 Airport, where you where you go through X ray. And then you go 472 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,150 through an passport exit, where they would basically some 473 00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:06,600 monkeys sitting there just comparing the name on your 474 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,730 passport to the name on your ticket, but they look all 475 00:27:08,730 --> 00:27:10,290 official and scary and show 476 00:27:10,290 --> 00:27:13,230 now they're holding it up to you, which cracks me yeah, let 477 00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:15,990 me hold that up to the light for a second here. Let me just 478 00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:19,230 compare Oh, yes, well, could you please take off your glasses. 479 00:27:19,530 --> 00:27:22,200 Now whatever they've got, they've also got this, at least 480 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,510 in the States, or they got this little now that all of a sudden 481 00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:27,450 they only have this little blue light of some sort and they scan 482 00:27:27,450 --> 00:27:30,180 it over your driver's licence looking for the code on your I 483 00:27:30,180 --> 00:27:31,380 don't know what the hell they're doing. 484 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,860 And then you're supposed to walk straight into this into a 485 00:27:34,860 --> 00:27:38,100 fishnet like trap where there's another x ray machine but that's 486 00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:42,510 only for shoes and I've made it a sport and I get away with it 487 00:27:42,510 --> 00:27:45,060 every single time you know, so there's someone there who's 488 00:27:45,060 --> 00:27:49,530 supposed to corral these eight lines of passport exit stands 489 00:27:49,740 --> 00:27:54,060 into the shoe X ray line. Now right off to the right hand side 490 00:27:54,240 --> 00:28:00,150 is a urologist Jones we can you know exchange money and so 491 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,330 either I'll walk straight that way and then pretend that I'm 492 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,900 looking at the exchange rate and then just walk through or if 493 00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:09,600 they're looking at me I'll fumble around with my bag or you 494 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,120 know with my with my passport or whatever, and I'll just wait 495 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:14,400 until they're not looking and then I just walk right past is 496 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,670 total horseshit. told no 497 00:28:17,670 --> 00:28:19,890 no we we don't have I don't know who would know what is this 498 00:28:19,890 --> 00:28:23,070 again? You have a separate thing at the end because we our shoes 499 00:28:23,070 --> 00:28:24,180 are taken off i No, 500 00:28:24,209 --> 00:28:27,689 no, no, no, no, no, they decided this is very British of course 501 00:28:27,689 --> 00:28:31,079 because nowhere this is at Heathrow. Yes, the taking off a 502 00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:35,729 terminal one or two. Okay, the taking off of the shoes is of 503 00:28:35,729 --> 00:28:38,939 course a big pain in the ass because there's really no place 504 00:28:38,939 --> 00:28:41,609 there's no infrastructure in Heathrow, which is a shambles. 505 00:28:41,609 --> 00:28:46,259 Anyway, to put your shoes back on. So what they do is you go 506 00:28:46,259 --> 00:28:49,259 through the regular x ray. Interestingly enough, you don't 507 00:28:49,259 --> 00:28:51,869 have to take your laptop out of your bag at Heathrow just to 508 00:28:51,869 --> 00:28:56,099 show you the inconsistency. And then they have a separate X ray 509 00:28:56,099 --> 00:28:58,799 where you take off your shoes, put your shoes through the X 510 00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:01,799 ray, and then they have little seats there so you can sit down 511 00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:04,859 and put your shoes back on. So it's they're trying to do it to 512 00:29:04,859 --> 00:29:06,389 make it more comfortable for you. 513 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,860 By the way, that's the guy that we should go find and beat up 514 00:29:10,860 --> 00:29:12,210 which is that shoe bomber. 515 00:29:12,750 --> 00:29:15,720 Really well we should stop with one shit too. That's just 516 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,070 outrageous stupid. 517 00:29:17,070 --> 00:29:20,100 I know but the fact is a guy who's triggered it I think we 518 00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:22,500 should when these guys trigger these things and I would include 519 00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:25,770 those those liquid bomber guys. I think they should be put in 520 00:29:25,770 --> 00:29:31,260 stocks place there should be like an area that should be a 521 00:29:31,260 --> 00:29:33,360 resistance there. You know, there's public shame anyway. 522 00:29:33,690 --> 00:29:36,450 Yeah, shouldn't be it's an area where you can't get right up to 523 00:29:36,450 --> 00:29:38,940 him and punch him. But you can throw things at him. 524 00:29:39,540 --> 00:29:43,800 public shaming I'm all for it. I've also always said that I'm 525 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,090 all for Papa executions being aired on primetime in the United 526 00:29:48,090 --> 00:29:48,240 States 527 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,720 and me both but I think I mean, I I've thought about this and I 528 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,090 think a lot of people have but everyone Oh, it's too sick. 529 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,410 Yeah, yeah, right. 530 00:29:57,210 --> 00:29:59,970 Point. Do you think it will might be some bit of a detour? 531 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,050 Aren't you think it might work? You know, we show everything 532 00:30:04,050 --> 00:30:07,170 else we show all the trials, we showed, you know, well, we don't 533 00:30:07,170 --> 00:30:09,870 even show dead military personnel anymore. But we show 534 00:30:09,870 --> 00:30:14,640 all the gore and horror, but we actually put, you know, a, some 535 00:30:14,670 --> 00:30:19,410 some, some law into effect where to put it to show it on 536 00:30:19,410 --> 00:30:22,140 television. In fact, I'd be more than happy to produce that show. 537 00:30:22,140 --> 00:30:25,710 It's a great reality show. It's called on death row. And in the 538 00:30:25,710 --> 00:30:30,120 end, you know, how it ends. Each episode ends the same way. 539 00:30:30,660 --> 00:30:32,760 You know, the thing is that that's the interesting thing 540 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,330 here is that the people had there's a pro and con when it 541 00:30:36,330 --> 00:30:40,080 comes to like the death penalty. And everybody who's against it 542 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,330 says, you know, it's determined it's not a deterrent, it's not a 543 00:30:42,330 --> 00:30:45,480 deterrent. And the fact of the matter is, is not a deterrent, 544 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,220 because nobody sees it. Yeah. I mean, it's just a theoretical 545 00:30:50,220 --> 00:30:52,140 thing. You know, it's like, well, you can just a death 546 00:30:52,140 --> 00:30:54,810 penalty. Okay. The guy was executed. Remember how few 547 00:30:54,810 --> 00:30:56,280 protesters up front and 548 00:30:56,459 --> 00:30:59,189 remember how shocked we all were at the I was thinking about this 549 00:30:59,189 --> 00:31:01,799 just the other day about the Saddam Hussein hanging video? 550 00:31:02,429 --> 00:31:05,459 Yeah, but you know what? There's a lot as a lot of young kids who 551 00:31:05,459 --> 00:31:07,979 are going shit, man, I ain't going to become Saddam Hussein. 552 00:31:08,309 --> 00:31:12,599 That fucking blows. I think I think and by the way, I'm 553 00:31:12,599 --> 00:31:16,889 against corporal punishment. Just so I call corporate. 554 00:31:17,850 --> 00:31:21,630 Corporate. Corporate. What kind of punishment are you again? 555 00:31:21,630 --> 00:31:21,900 Subtle 556 00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:22,680 punishment. 557 00:31:22,980 --> 00:31:24,000 Oh, there we go. 558 00:31:24,150 --> 00:31:29,970 We're corporal punishments. Okay. I'm totally against taking 559 00:31:30,030 --> 00:31:32,820 a life for any reason whatsoever. But since we're 560 00:31:32,820 --> 00:31:35,760 doing this stupidity, maybe we'd get a different idea if we 561 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,830 actually showed what that entails when you see people who 562 00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:41,010 are flopping around when one injection isn't enough. You 563 00:31:41,010 --> 00:31:43,830 know, show that go ahead, show it show what it really means to 564 00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:47,220 kill a human being. The electric chair would be the one to go 565 00:31:47,220 --> 00:31:49,230 exactly show that with their eyes popping out. 566 00:31:49,890 --> 00:31:52,470 I think the guillotine might be interesting to hell in a 567 00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:53,220 handbasket. 568 00:31:53,370 --> 00:31:56,310 There you go. That's the name of the show. To hell in a 569 00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:59,940 handbasket. A new reality show this season on Fox? 570 00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:03,930 It would be hot people would. Although you'll be I don't know. 571 00:32:03,930 --> 00:32:07,200 You know, it'd be interesting to see, just as an expensive 572 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,950 sociological experiment. I wonder what kind of ratings it 573 00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:13,830 would get what would the family sit around and watch and make 574 00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:14,820 the kids watch 575 00:32:14,850 --> 00:32:20,100 it would be through the roof through the roof. And it just 576 00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:24,570 amazes me that I got hooked into watching a whole bunch of videos 577 00:32:24,570 --> 00:32:28,890 from tmz.com. Yesterday, Patricia is recording another 578 00:32:28,890 --> 00:32:31,770 show in Holland. So you know, there's no one to talk to. And 579 00:32:31,860 --> 00:32:34,350 my daughter is she's 18 She doesn't get shit about me. 580 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,950 And oh, poor Adams Home Alone 581 00:32:38,010 --> 00:32:45,570 is right. Just mean my gold. And so I bought my Krugerrands so 582 00:32:45,570 --> 00:32:48,210 I'm, I'm sitting around and I'm watching these videos and have 583 00:32:48,210 --> 00:32:51,900 you ever watched this TMZ stuff? It's It's really amazing. 584 00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:57,420 Because here people who are so brash and so mean, and and you 585 00:32:57,420 --> 00:33:00,360 know these paparazzi, they as paparazzi is a big word, it's 586 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,750 just, you know, idiots with a with a video camera. And they'll 587 00:33:03,780 --> 00:33:06,510 they'll stick this camera in a celebrity's face and ask all 588 00:33:06,510 --> 00:33:09,840 these horrible questions. You know, just just egging them on 589 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,620 to either, you know, grab the camera or, or say something that 590 00:33:13,620 --> 00:33:16,170 or that, of course will be, you know, headline news. And that's 591 00:33:16,170 --> 00:33:18,060 what these guys want, because then they get to sell their 592 00:33:18,060 --> 00:33:21,360 video all over the world or their photos or whatever. And 593 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,480 there's, there's so many of these people attacking these 594 00:33:24,510 --> 00:33:28,260 celebrities and D liberties but not and about one of them has 595 00:33:28,350 --> 00:33:32,610 the fucking courage to do it to like a politician, you know, and 596 00:33:32,610 --> 00:33:35,670 really hound a politician and ask them the really tough 597 00:33:35,670 --> 00:33:40,380 questions when it's just outrageous to see that we've got 598 00:33:40,380 --> 00:33:42,780 the people with the equipment, we've got the people who do the 599 00:33:42,780 --> 00:33:47,160 research, okay, it's research on Lindsay Lohan. But they're doing 600 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,220 the research. Why can't we get them to do that about real 601 00:33:50,220 --> 00:33:52,350 things that matter? Real News. 602 00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:56,220 I think the politicians who had to be a backlash, I think they 603 00:33:56,220 --> 00:33:59,160 did pass legislation to screw these guys, they'd be out of 604 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,480 business. They don't want that. 605 00:34:01,620 --> 00:34:05,790 Well, that legislation will be interesting to see. At least it 606 00:34:05,790 --> 00:34:06,630 would be honest. 607 00:34:07,740 --> 00:34:10,620 I don't know. It's something so I'm never expecting to see what 608 00:34:10,620 --> 00:34:13,020 you're describing, which would be good. I mean, that's the what 609 00:34:13,020 --> 00:34:15,360 should be happening. I mean, I mean, Reese Of course, you know, 610 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,930 the thing going on here is still the never ending hounding of 611 00:34:18,930 --> 00:34:19,290 Sarah 612 00:34:19,620 --> 00:34:21,750 Palin. Yeah, and I've been following that it's the same 613 00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:24,600 over here. They don't call the news media just copy and paste 614 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,160 whatever's coming over the wire. 615 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:32,310 And so but what's weird is uh, you listen to the two sides like 616 00:34:32,370 --> 00:34:35,430 you listen to Rush Limbaugh his interpretation of what's going 617 00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:40,050 on and then you listen, listen to Bill Maher is interpretation. 618 00:34:40,050 --> 00:34:43,230 So you have the street and you have the right wing and the left 619 00:34:43,230 --> 00:34:46,410 wing both, you know, talking about, you know, it's almost 620 00:34:46,410 --> 00:34:48,630 like the guys describing the elephant you know, I mean, it's 621 00:34:48,630 --> 00:34:51,810 unbelievable. Everybody sees things totally differently. And 622 00:34:51,810 --> 00:34:56,370 the fact is, though, I think they're overdoing the bashing 623 00:34:56,370 --> 00:34:59,010 because it's unwarranted and it's like actually making the 624 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:04,140 Democrats But looks like oh dreamily mean spirited mean evil 625 00:35:04,140 --> 00:35:07,590 people and they don't seem to get that and when they end when 626 00:35:07,590 --> 00:35:09,690 it's pointed out to him they say well maybe that's the way it has 627 00:35:09,690 --> 00:35:11,910 to be we should be we should go more on the offensive we should 628 00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:15,030 be more like the report more like the Karl Rove Ian's you 629 00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:19,290 know and being, you know, be attack dogs and go out and be 630 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,290 negative go negative go negative and they're gonna do that I 631 00:35:22,290 --> 00:35:26,040 think just this campaign is going to go extremely negative 632 00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:28,770 and it's going to be hilarious. I think it's just going to be a 633 00:35:28,770 --> 00:35:30,810 laugh riot. It's going to be fantastic. 634 00:35:30,990 --> 00:35:33,510 Well, it is the greatest show on earth. And that's all that it 635 00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:36,690 is. These people who are up for election won't actually run 636 00:35:36,690 --> 00:35:39,990 anything that just actors. The best one the best president we 637 00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:44,670 had was an actor. And that's what people miss. You know this. 638 00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:48,960 It's all about the show. And it's or it's orcas. It's no 639 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,400 different than managing Amy Winehouse. It's like no, no 640 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,920 press. No, we have a press stop. We're not gonna You can't talk 641 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,740 to Amy. And then you know, it's like then we'll Okay, let's go 642 00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:01,620 on. Good Morning America, Charles Gibson. He's in our 643 00:36:01,620 --> 00:36:04,470 pocket. We got him. And he'll ask really easy questions and 644 00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:09,450 we'll ask the tough questions in a rehearsed way. It's a show 645 00:36:09,450 --> 00:36:13,560 business. I keep saying it's show business. Politics is show 646 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,770 business for Ugly people. In this case, you know they're even 647 00:36:16,770 --> 00:36:19,050 learning that because Sarah Palin is not ugly. 648 00:36:20,820 --> 00:36:23,550 No, she's she's I think she's fine looking. My wife doesn't 649 00:36:23,550 --> 00:36:28,710 think much of her. Anyway, so So the Sarah Palin thing is 650 00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:31,680 continuing. So all we have to do somebody wrote in and said and 651 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,900 by the way I wanted somebody mentioned to me that we should 652 00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:37,020 mentioned that lipstick on the pig thing which everybody which 653 00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:40,470 is another phoney baloney deal going on where, you know, Obama 654 00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:43,740 said it's like lipstick on a pig which is which to most of the 655 00:36:43,740 --> 00:36:46,560 Republicans was a call back to the convention because Sarah 656 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,940 Palin had this joke that lipstick. Meanwhile, oh, it's 657 00:36:50,940 --> 00:36:53,100 just an accent. People say lipstick on a pig all the time. 658 00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:55,410 And John McCain said it five years ago and here's that you 659 00:36:55,410 --> 00:36:56,730 know, blah, blah, blah. It was 660 00:36:56,730 --> 00:36:59,430 really clear. It was very clear what what Obama 661 00:36:59,820 --> 00:37:02,700 made clear that nobody talks about this is why I thought it 662 00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:05,460 was totally clear. He goes from the lipstick on the pig 663 00:37:05,460 --> 00:37:10,110 reference, which was just an insult to talking about fish. 664 00:37:10,380 --> 00:37:14,160 And how fish stinks. You put to fish just like says like stinky 665 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,570 fish. Female reference that's used by the lower classes are 666 00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:23,370 commonly vagina. It's extremely insulting, and nobody pay and it 667 00:37:23,370 --> 00:37:26,760 was the follow up to lipstick on a pig. No doubt in my mind. 668 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,220 Rails was intended to indicate 669 00:37:29,340 --> 00:37:31,680 Well, when I heard lipstick on a pig, I was shocked. I was 670 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,170 literally shocked because I knew immediately because I had seen 671 00:37:34,170 --> 00:37:36,360 that bit where Sarah Palin says, you know, the only difference 672 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:42,420 between what you say pit boy and a hockey mom is lipstick. So it 673 00:37:42,420 --> 00:37:45,750 was really clear. And I was just like, Wow, man, you calling a 674 00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:48,840 woman a pig. That's it. That's a big deal. And then I thought 675 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,910 back to our conversation from last week where you said the 676 00:37:50,910 --> 00:37:54,540 Democratic Party in general is ageist and sexist. And like, 677 00:37:54,570 --> 00:37:57,690 there it is. Fucking ages and sexist. 678 00:37:58,530 --> 00:38:01,080 Yeah, totally ages and sexes. But anyway, the follow up stuff 679 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,320 about the fish, all the fish references to me was even more 680 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,280 insulting. But nobody wanted to touch that one. Because for one 681 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,560 thing, it became obvious. And the second thing was it was 682 00:38:10,590 --> 00:38:14,010 extremely insulting to even bring it up in the conversation. 683 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,490 But I thought the whole thing was very referential and 684 00:38:18,510 --> 00:38:19,800 referential. Do you have the exact 685 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,560 quote that he used? Was it Obama who said that? 686 00:38:23,010 --> 00:38:26,160 Yeah, Obama, he goes, he goes on and on about lipstick on a pig. 687 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,160 And then he goes on and on about it's like, it's like having dead 688 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:34,110 fish, stinky dead fish. And in a newspaper, it just stinks. And 689 00:38:34,110 --> 00:38:37,470 he went on and on and on about the fish. And it was right after 690 00:38:37,470 --> 00:38:40,140 I saw the whole thing. He was in a library someplace to 691 00:38:40,140 --> 00:38:44,910 discussing this. And, you know, it was all rehearsed. And I got 692 00:38:44,940 --> 00:38:48,300 huge laughs from this audience. And I mean, she was he said, 693 00:38:48,300 --> 00:38:50,190 lipstick on a pig. They're all you know, they're all 694 00:38:50,190 --> 00:38:55,950 snorkelling funny, and they had all these kinds of nerdy little 695 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,060 dweebs and so it was obvious what was going on and then now 696 00:39:00,090 --> 00:39:03,450 then I went into the denial thing by the way, which I always 697 00:39:03,450 --> 00:39:07,230 get a kick out of this it's reminds me of what used to be a 698 00:39:07,230 --> 00:39:11,070 professional wrestling where somebody would come out they 699 00:39:11,070 --> 00:39:13,470 don't do this anymore. I'm normally shocked by this but you 700 00:39:13,470 --> 00:39:16,380 know, the rest of you would go beat the crap out of some guy 701 00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:19,110 and then he somehow turn around and the guy beg him he'd beg No, 702 00:39:19,110 --> 00:39:21,810 no no no don't hurt me I'm I'm don't hurt me to be on his knees 703 00:39:21,810 --> 00:39:24,120 begging and then as the guy so okay, I won't hurt you the boom 704 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,020 he gives them one. You know that? They don't do that 705 00:39:28,020 --> 00:39:30,690 anymore. There's none of the begging there's no more begging 706 00:39:30,690 --> 00:39:33,420 but anyway, Obama goes into this. Oh, no, it was just a 707 00:39:33,420 --> 00:39:36,420 mystery. Oh, you're kidding. Oh, I didn't mean that you you're 708 00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:39,360 you're you're you're the one who's got the dirty mind. Which 709 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,530 is another trick that comedians use, which is you'd make a lewd 710 00:39:43,530 --> 00:39:47,460 reference and then you act so shocked. Notices exactly 711 00:39:47,490 --> 00:39:50,790 it let's see, maybe this is maybe this is the one I just 712 00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:54,960 want to see if I could find that actually. That that quote. Let's 713 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,530 see what they 714 00:39:56,250 --> 00:39:59,640 say a few words about the latest made up controversy 715 00:39:59,730 --> 00:40:03,450 on So that's not it. No, this is his reaction to Yeah, no, you 716 00:40:03,450 --> 00:40:05,370 have to get the original. That's what I'm looking at which is 717 00:40:05,370 --> 00:40:09,510 predates that. By the way, when he goes into the made up 718 00:40:09,540 --> 00:40:13,740 controversy, but I'm getting tired of this guy's cadence. 719 00:40:14,220 --> 00:40:15,660 Yeah. I mean, he was on 720 00:40:16,170 --> 00:40:19,800 Letterman. I saw clips from a Letterman. Yeah. How was he? Was 721 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,340 he funny? 722 00:40:20,370 --> 00:40:24,420 Yeah. Yeah, he was outstanding. He's a really smooth guy and I 723 00:40:24,540 --> 00:40:27,690 but he's still got that cadence. When he's giving his speeches. 724 00:40:27,690 --> 00:40:30,690 He's actually more he's a he's kind of, he's got a good 725 00:40:30,690 --> 00:40:34,620 personality. He's funny. He's not he's not a joke maker. But 726 00:40:34,620 --> 00:40:38,670 he's got to seems to have a sense of humour. And but the 727 00:40:38,670 --> 00:40:41,790 cadence this this hottie cadence, which is actually 728 00:40:41,790 --> 00:40:46,290 sounds a lot like John Kerry, I think is gonna wear it thin. You 729 00:40:46,290 --> 00:40:49,800 know, the more they put him on the air because he just talks 730 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,520 like a guy who's you know, talking down to you anyway, 731 00:40:53,550 --> 00:40:56,580 well, let's just list this for a second. John McCain says he's 732 00:40:56,580 --> 00:41:02,070 about change to extra and so I guess his whole angle is watch 733 00:41:02,070 --> 00:41:05,610 out George Bush, except for economic policy, health care 734 00:41:05,610 --> 00:41:12,720 policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy, and 735 00:41:12,750 --> 00:41:17,100 carros style politics. We're really gonna shake things up in 736 00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:24,510 Washington that's not change that's that's just calling some 737 00:41:24,540 --> 00:41:29,490 the same thing. Something different but you know, you can 738 00:41:30,090 --> 00:41:36,480 you can put lipstick on a pig a pig 739 00:41:38,970 --> 00:41:42,210 bash it the fish thing is not here. Now look forward later. 740 00:41:42,629 --> 00:41:45,659 Yeah, like follows up with the fish. Yeah, sure. Which day 741 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,749 everybody cut that out. But did that's what to me was declared. 742 00:41:48,749 --> 00:41:50,669 I mean, that was the confirmation 743 00:41:51,450 --> 00:41:53,400 that also in Alaska reference, I guess. 744 00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:58,020 What the fish yeah. I don't know. Now the fish is a 745 00:41:58,020 --> 00:42:03,210 reference to I mean, it's a gives us a reference to vaginal 746 00:42:03,210 --> 00:42:07,500 secretions to be honest about it. Yeah, exactly. And it's a 747 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,170 and it's something that you wouldn't I mean, it does it 748 00:42:10,170 --> 00:42:14,550 first it gets too big for we got too big a laugh with with the 749 00:42:14,580 --> 00:42:18,270 lipstick on a pig comment in such a way that was obviously a 750 00:42:18,270 --> 00:42:22,770 callback to Sarah Palin. Right. And her mentioned of lipstick, 751 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,680 and then when he started pounding the fish stuff, and I'm 752 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,580 thinking this is ridiculous. This is gonna get slaughtered 753 00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:32,730 for this and indeed the next day, you know, are you dig 754 00:42:32,730 --> 00:42:35,910 actually that day? There was a right wing guys are all over it. 755 00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:39,720 And the left wingers are all snickering they don't know No, 756 00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:44,340 do you guys are just sick to think that but the nobody again 757 00:42:44,340 --> 00:42:48,810 on either side brought up to all this fish malarkey was fine. No, 758 00:42:48,810 --> 00:42:52,320 I think they're, these guys are going in the wrong direction. In 759 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,650 fact, it's already been discussed that, you know, the 760 00:42:55,650 --> 00:42:59,700 youth is would be the group that puts these guys over, you know, 761 00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:02,550 the young voters who never vote because they think everything's 762 00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:08,220 a crock of crap for obvious reasons. And and Obama came out 763 00:43:08,220 --> 00:43:12,600 as the you know, the non politician politician, and so he 764 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,460 was going to be you know, above it all. And he was going to do 765 00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:17,400 this above it all. And meanwhile, this mean, spirited 766 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,330 Democratic base, you know, that shows up on the Bill Maher show 767 00:43:21,330 --> 00:43:24,450 last night. He had Janine garofolo on and she's about as 768 00:43:24,450 --> 00:43:24,990 crazy. 769 00:43:25,290 --> 00:43:27,600 She's a massive truther 770 00:43:28,860 --> 00:43:31,560 Oh, she had massive truth. Oh, yeah. Big time. Yeah, big time. 771 00:43:31,590 --> 00:43:35,580 That never came out. But anyway, she just hates the Republicans 772 00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:38,490 to an extreme, she said they should all be arrested. I mean, 773 00:43:38,490 --> 00:43:41,430 even though she's supposedly Just kidding. But anyway, so 774 00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:45,810 they these guys are like so mean spirited, that they're like 775 00:43:45,810 --> 00:43:48,630 making Obama do stuff that's compleanno going in this 776 00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:52,410 direction of being snide, and, and, you know, not being above 777 00:43:52,410 --> 00:43:55,530 the fray, but being just part of it. And it's gonna turn off the 778 00:43:55,530 --> 00:43:58,140 youth voters who are going to say, you know, yeah, he can be I 779 00:43:58,140 --> 00:44:01,260 hope he wins, but I got other things to do, I'm not gonna 780 00:44:01,260 --> 00:44:04,110 vote, and they're gonna lose the election because of this kind of 781 00:44:04,110 --> 00:44:06,900 thing. If they don't get back on their original track, which was 782 00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:10,350 winning, they were winning big with the original track. You 783 00:44:10,350 --> 00:44:13,140 know, just because they take a few some people take a few shots 784 00:44:13,140 --> 00:44:16,260 at him like Giuliani at the convention. He had some great 785 00:44:16,260 --> 00:44:18,900 leave the guy was doing a stand up routine. It was the funniest 786 00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:22,110 thing I've ever seen it guy was great. He could have could have 787 00:44:22,110 --> 00:44:23,040 been a politician. 788 00:44:23,460 --> 00:44:26,910 You know where it is, John, what what happened is it's it's the 789 00:44:26,910 --> 00:44:31,080 whole celebrity thing. You know, Obama was built up. And it just 790 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,710 like, the good example was Amy Winehouse. You know, you see 791 00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:37,980 this great, great persona, you hear this great voice, you know, 792 00:44:37,980 --> 00:44:39,900 the song everything's fit together because it's an 793 00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:42,690 illusion, right? You don't actually know this, that she's 794 00:44:42,690 --> 00:44:46,920 human. And you never when you when you this is the old school 795 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,300 Hollywood system, you know, you you protect your stars, and you 796 00:44:51,330 --> 00:44:56,430 micromanage everything, and you never ever let the human side 797 00:44:56,430 --> 00:44:59,970 come out unless it's completely orchestrated. So this is not a 798 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,810 Mama's personal, his personal opinion, it's not his words. I 799 00:45:03,810 --> 00:45:06,210 mean, all this shit is is written for him and made up for 800 00:45:06,210 --> 00:45:09,810 him. But that's not how you can't do that in the celebrity 801 00:45:09,810 --> 00:45:12,540 culture that we live in today when you use that celebrity 802 00:45:12,540 --> 00:45:14,970 culture to actually build the guy up, because that's what 803 00:45:14,970 --> 00:45:15,540 happened. 804 00:45:18,210 --> 00:45:21,480 Well, yeah, no, that is what happened. I mean, he was built 805 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,670 up as a celebrity. And that's one of the things that they 806 00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:26,850 threw back in his face with those early ads, which may or 807 00:45:26,850 --> 00:45:30,330 may not have been effective. I think he did. Well, I don't know 808 00:45:30,330 --> 00:45:32,460 if they were effective or not, but I know that they did have 809 00:45:32,490 --> 00:45:36,750 they, they were, they weren't necessarily effective in terms 810 00:45:36,750 --> 00:45:39,960 of like, changing anybody's mind. But I think they they 811 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:46,170 affected with an A, the, the personal or the, the basic 812 00:45:46,170 --> 00:45:49,920 perceptions that the Democrats had of themselves, they found 813 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,320 this very offensive, because they were, you know, kind of 814 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,810 playing a celebrity game, and then they were busted for it. 815 00:45:55,140 --> 00:45:57,030 And then the next thing, you know, they're like, Well, you 816 00:45:57,030 --> 00:46:00,060 know, this is a cheap shot. And, you know, and then they, you 817 00:46:00,060 --> 00:46:02,880 know, they, all of a sudden, the Paris Hilton video comes out, 818 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,650 which was actually the best thing that come out of it. 819 00:46:04,650 --> 00:46:07,800 Right. Yeah. And it did, the whole thing is being twisted. 820 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,030 And I think it's like the Republicans. The Republicans 821 00:46:12,030 --> 00:46:14,520 started out, there's no reason the Republicans should win this 822 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,390 election. I mean, under any circumstances, I mean, under any 823 00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:21,360 normal circumstances, you have a president that can't even show 824 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,480 up his own convention, a vice president that doesn't even have 825 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,300 a videotape for their own convention. I mean, he doesn't 826 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,170 he's not even be mentioned. He was often. Yeah, you have an 827 00:46:31,170 --> 00:46:33,780 unpopular situation. But then again, the problem that 828 00:46:33,780 --> 00:46:36,390 Democrats really have is that they're they're crappy Congress 829 00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:39,270 that was put in office, you know, just two years ago was 830 00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:42,270 promising all this stuff. They didn't deliver it, absolutely 831 00:46:42,270 --> 00:46:46,050 nothing, which gave the Republicans the possibility of 832 00:46:46,050 --> 00:46:49,470 getting in again, because the Democrats are does do nothing as 833 00:46:49,470 --> 00:46:53,430 you can be. But meanwhile, they create this kick this guy, 834 00:46:53,730 --> 00:46:57,870 Obama, from an earlier speech in 2004, when he gave that great 835 00:46:57,870 --> 00:47:02,610 speech, the speech and they create this, you know, they and 836 00:47:02,610 --> 00:47:05,970 they get to think fine tuned and find honed, and he's like, the 837 00:47:05,970 --> 00:47:09,720 guy can't lose, and everybody just thinks he's a shoo in, 838 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,440 based on the earlier build up, and then the Republicans just 839 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,590 take a poke a few, you know, just take a needle a little bit 840 00:47:16,590 --> 00:47:18,210 and the whole thing falls apart. 841 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,250 Yep. They totally obliterated the Sarah Palin pick. They just 842 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:29,400 obliterated Obama's huge appearance is his concert. 843 00:47:30,690 --> 00:47:33,420 Yeah, no, they did a good job of killing the concert with that. 844 00:47:33,630 --> 00:47:37,890 And then they, they also she became the target for all this 845 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:45,120 out and out hatred of both women and you know, her, and the fact 846 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,720 that she's only been a governor for two years. And it's a small 847 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:49,470 state, you know, 848 00:47:50,459 --> 00:47:52,739 we're all pissed off because they didn't get to vet her. 849 00:47:56,250 --> 00:47:58,590 Well, you have the press was doing its job because I think it 850 00:47:58,590 --> 00:48:00,000 was either on this show or another show. I'm gonna have 851 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,660 somebody find this reference. I referenced her in May when they 852 00:48:03,660 --> 00:48:05,970 first when she first came up in the conversation she was 853 00:48:05,970 --> 00:48:09,870 mentioned as one of the possible choices. And they that's when 854 00:48:09,870 --> 00:48:12,540 the vetting began with the Republican Party which was in 855 00:48:12,540 --> 00:48:15,570 May, which was a number of months back but she was never 856 00:48:15,570 --> 00:48:19,200 put on any of the on any of the lists at the press came out with 857 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,850 even though these weren't official this by the 858 00:48:20,850 --> 00:48:23,070 Republicans, they were just making it up as they go along. 859 00:48:23,070 --> 00:48:25,470 And then they got worked by the fact that the whole thing came 860 00:48:25,470 --> 00:48:28,770 out apparently, to them came out of left field when it actually 861 00:48:28,770 --> 00:48:29,700 didn't, I just 862 00:48:29,700 --> 00:48:33,690 got to write this down September 13. John suggest the press might 863 00:48:33,690 --> 00:48:38,280 not have been doing their job. Interesting. Interesting little, 864 00:48:38,550 --> 00:48:42,300 little note there. Hey, let's let's riff on McCain for a 865 00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:47,250 second because that video that came out, blew me away with the 866 00:48:47,250 --> 00:48:50,010 Well, the one that everyone's been talking about the one of 867 00:48:50,010 --> 00:48:52,290 him being released? Oh, yeah, the 868 00:48:52,290 --> 00:48:55,440 Swedish video, we have it on the blog. divorce.org/blog Have a 869 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:56,400 drink. Right. 870 00:48:56,910 --> 00:49:03,030 So here's McCain. And, you know, only when I saw your blog post 871 00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:05,520 that I realised that you know, the story had been that he came 872 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,090 out on crutches and this was him actually leaving not entering 873 00:49:09,090 --> 00:49:15,270 the states but leaving Vietnam, right, but the thing that I saw 874 00:49:15,330 --> 00:49:19,290 that that took me immediately was He saluted the guy with a 875 00:49:19,290 --> 00:49:23,640 high salute. And these days he can't pull his arm up above his 876 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:24,420 shoulder level. 877 00:49:25,020 --> 00:49:28,230 He can't put it put his arm over he can still salute though 878 00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:32,010 because if you look where the elbow is positioned, you don't 879 00:49:32,010 --> 00:49:34,980 necessarily have to have it straight up to get us to make a 880 00:49:34,980 --> 00:49:35,790 salute work. 881 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,720 Anyway interesting videos just in general man about his back 882 00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:43,020 like not you mentioned that he they I remember hearing a couple 883 00:49:43,020 --> 00:49:47,520 of comments. I mean, you don't need to raise your arm up into 884 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,040 the air to salute you can salute with your actually you could do 885 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,280 with a tuck. If you you know wanted to look like Benny Hill. 886 00:49:53,340 --> 00:49:57,420 It looks high enough for me to actually go compare anyhow, he's 887 00:49:57,420 --> 00:50:00,000 been He's much older now obviously, and it's not really 888 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,540 that important because the guy was really in a in a in a prison 889 00:50:03,540 --> 00:50:04,470 camp, you know, it's like, 890 00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:06,990 right well, he's obviously when you when you see him today he 891 00:50:07,020 --> 00:50:10,920 you can see that he can't his arms have limited mobility and I 892 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,650 don't think he's faking that it could have been a progressive 893 00:50:13,650 --> 00:50:16,290 thing that just deteriorated over time. Because you know, 894 00:50:16,290 --> 00:50:20,010 there's so much ligament damage or who knows what. But yeah, he 895 00:50:20,010 --> 00:50:23,490 did have a salute. He was limping severely so I can see 896 00:50:23,490 --> 00:50:26,400 the crutches thing actually happening. But the thing that 897 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,060 keeps coming up, because I know you don't need to lift your own 898 00:50:30,060 --> 00:50:32,070 weapon you already make a salute, you just need to be able 899 00:50:32,070 --> 00:50:35,850 to bend your elbow. And but they keep referencing to the fact 900 00:50:35,850 --> 00:50:38,940 that poor John McCain can't salute the flag. And I'm not 901 00:50:38,940 --> 00:50:39,960 sure that's true. 902 00:50:41,460 --> 00:50:44,700 No, no, no, I'm trying to right now obviously, you can salute 903 00:50:45,030 --> 00:50:47,310 you can sell it without bringing your arm all I know if it's an 904 00:50:47,310 --> 00:50:49,170 official salute. Well, you 905 00:50:49,170 --> 00:50:52,530 could do about Yeah, but the other pieces of history and that 906 00:50:52,530 --> 00:50:55,530 obviously a perfect marine salute with the 90 degrees and 907 00:50:55,530 --> 00:50:56,070 all the rest of 908 00:50:57,780 --> 00:51:00,960 the, what was interesting to me is other information that I 909 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,280 didn't know about John McCain. So for instance, his wife, when 910 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,200 he came back, he was already married, I guess when he went 911 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,560 off to Vietnam, and he came back and, and his wife had been in a 912 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,010 really horrible car accident she had had like 13 or 14 913 00:51:14,010 --> 00:51:18,750 operations, and that it really messed with her and well he left 914 00:51:18,750 --> 00:51:27,450 her and he left her for Cindy, who subsequently was on all 915 00:51:27,450 --> 00:51:32,670 kinds of drugs, like was invited in Percocet, Percocet, whatever, 916 00:51:32,670 --> 00:51:36,330 for three years. And she was completely completely drugged. 917 00:51:36,330 --> 00:51:41,070 She was actually she had a she had a bit of a foundation that 918 00:51:41,070 --> 00:51:44,010 would bring drugs to poor nations, and she was actually 919 00:51:44,010 --> 00:51:45,930 getting the drugs from her own foundation. 920 00:51:46,650 --> 00:51:49,830 Oh, that's interesting. I mean, I you know, she looks, she has a 921 00:51:49,830 --> 00:51:53,370 certain look of like an exit. I hate to say this, because I 922 00:51:53,370 --> 00:51:56,040 don't think she's totally an unattractive woman by any means. 923 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,260 And she's standard. She looks rich, and she has a lot of 924 00:51:58,260 --> 00:52:01,170 style. And she's very involved in these foundations. But she 925 00:52:01,170 --> 00:52:04,440 has to kind of have a look of a of a woman that may have gone 926 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,280 through something like that. 927 00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:08,970 Yeah, apparently it has left some permanent damage, 928 00:52:09,420 --> 00:52:12,540 particularly memory damage. So she she can't remember things 929 00:52:12,540 --> 00:52:15,150 for like two weeks ago, short term memory is difficult. And 930 00:52:15,150 --> 00:52:20,310 he's by her own admission. So while they're digging up all 931 00:52:20,310 --> 00:52:24,150 this shit on Sarah Palin, now, there's a lot more shit. There's 932 00:52:24,180 --> 00:52:26,430 plenty for the Obama camp to do, that's for sure. 933 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,830 Yeah, well, I'm sure they're gonna go after. But they have 934 00:52:28,830 --> 00:52:31,440 to, you know, they have to have meetings because stuff like that 935 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,020 is pretty hypersensitive. Especially it's like, can we go 936 00:52:34,020 --> 00:52:37,470 after, here's a, you know, you got to the guy's got us, he's 937 00:52:37,470 --> 00:52:41,520 immediately got protection, or insurance based on this being 938 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,480 five years in a prisoner of war camp. And then, you know, you go 939 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,720 after some woman who had had a drug problem, even though she's, 940 00:52:49,230 --> 00:52:52,230 if you looked at her bio that they ran at that convention, 941 00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:55,380 it's like, Oh, my God, this woman had any time. She, you 942 00:52:55,380 --> 00:52:58,830 know, she made her Palin look like she was a lazy fat. So 943 00:52:58,830 --> 00:53:01,470 sitting around eating bonbons, in terms of the amount of stuff 944 00:53:01,470 --> 00:53:03,960 that she had going on. I mean, she was just like, she's got 945 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,520 this going on. And, you know, to have 20 kids, and they adopted 946 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,480 a, you know, African child and went, I mean, just the whole 947 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,990 family is enormous. So he has a football team when he brought 948 00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:19,800 them out. And so what are you going to do? Um, and how do you 949 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,840 attack that without looking like an idiot? 950 00:53:22,110 --> 00:53:25,920 Because the nutty thing is, John is hope our listeners realise 951 00:53:25,950 --> 00:53:29,130 how much of a Banana Republic The United States is when just 952 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,940 just this is the actual conversation. This is what it's 953 00:53:32,940 --> 00:53:36,570 about, you know, while you know about stinky fish and lipstick 954 00:53:36,570 --> 00:53:41,490 on pigs, and lack of experience and all this stuff. Well, you 955 00:53:41,490 --> 00:53:44,820 know, we're basically about, you know, we're in a Cold War with 956 00:53:44,820 --> 00:53:48,630 Russia. And we've gotten stagflation and on the brink of 957 00:53:48,930 --> 00:53:52,500 disaster financially, and this is the shit, we're even we're 958 00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:54,240 talking about it. What's wrong with us? 959 00:53:54,750 --> 00:53:58,350 Well, you know, what is wrong with us? We shouldn't be talking 960 00:53:58,350 --> 00:54:00,480 about Lehman Brothers. So 961 00:54:00,810 --> 00:54:02,850 I can talk about Lehman Brothers, I can tell you about 962 00:54:02,850 --> 00:54:06,570 we walked you know, Ron and I, we are first company think new 963 00:54:06,570 --> 00:54:10,650 ideas. So we were we were we had an option to take that public. 964 00:54:10,890 --> 00:54:15,870 And Lehman Brothers courted us for man months, I think was four 965 00:54:15,870 --> 00:54:18,840 or five months. And yeah, that's a really difficult process. And 966 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,560 it really drains on any company to just to get that going. And 967 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,500 it was just it just, you know, went around in circles. And then 968 00:54:25,710 --> 00:54:27,690 I can just remember the meeting. We said, hey, you know what, 969 00:54:27,690 --> 00:54:29,940 screw you guys. We're not we're we're leaving. And we've 970 00:54:29,940 --> 00:54:32,760 literally walked out. And they came running down the street 971 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,590 after us. And we wound up going with some like brown shoe firm. 972 00:54:38,430 --> 00:54:42,630 But a huge $12 million raise. It was a little bit before the.com 973 00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:48,750 Boom. But Lehman Brothers Yeah. Hey, it's it's an interesting, 974 00:54:48,780 --> 00:54:51,960 interesting to work with a company like that on something 975 00:54:52,170 --> 00:54:55,200 of that magnitude, even though for them was really small, 976 00:54:55,230 --> 00:54:59,130 because it's essentially the only thing they're doing from 977 00:54:59,130 --> 00:55:01,740 the minute you walk in the door. or is there looking for reasons 978 00:55:01,740 --> 00:55:04,860 not to do it? Because it could, you know, screw up their career. 979 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,010 There's no other they don't give a shit about if you're going to 980 00:55:08,010 --> 00:55:10,560 be successful or not. They just want to guide the IPO. 981 00:55:12,809 --> 00:55:14,279 Did you think they were sleazeballs? 982 00:55:14,729 --> 00:55:18,449 No, no. And they were nice. You know, they had every meeting, 983 00:55:18,449 --> 00:55:20,549 they had the bagels and the fruit, you know, that was nice. 984 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:24,630 Well, they're toast now. 985 00:55:25,650 --> 00:55:28,800 They certainly are 150. This is one of the big ones though. This 986 00:55:28,830 --> 00:55:31,500 these these are like one of the these are serious players, these 987 00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:31,950 guys. 988 00:55:33,540 --> 00:55:37,920 Yeah, yeah, it's a disaster. I mean, the Bear Stearns thing was 989 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,620 like, you know, spit in the bucket. I mean, they got out 990 00:55:40,620 --> 00:55:43,800 smelling like a rose somehow, begin by doing it early, if 991 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,250 you're going to fail, fail early, be first to fail. Because 992 00:55:47,250 --> 00:55:49,110 after a while, they start saying, hey, wait a minute, this 993 00:55:49,110 --> 00:55:51,390 is we've seen too much of this, you guys can just, you know, 994 00:55:51,390 --> 00:55:53,850 sink to the bottom for all we care because people, you know, 995 00:55:53,850 --> 00:55:56,010 the government and everybody else gets sick of it. And you 996 00:55:56,010 --> 00:55:59,250 know, you want to go out early, not late well, and then come 997 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,250 come back to the last game in a football season, 998 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,160 I come back to my original statement, which is, you know, 999 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,830 knowing how Wall Street operates, and many, many banks 1000 00:56:07,830 --> 00:56:11,460 for my clients and our previous company. If there's a penny to 1001 00:56:11,460 --> 00:56:14,850 be made, if there's a there's a basis point to be made, they'll 1002 00:56:14,850 --> 00:56:18,390 go after it, unless they don't know that they can go after it. 1003 00:56:18,450 --> 00:56:21,150 And I think that's the problem is because you know, what this, 1004 00:56:21,180 --> 00:56:25,020 you know, did you hear? Well, this was also interesting that 1005 00:56:25,020 --> 00:56:28,440 because Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have gone into 1006 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,820 conservatorship, that actually, according to the contracts, and 1007 00:56:32,820 --> 00:56:35,250 I'm talking about trillions of dollars in derivatives 1008 00:56:35,250 --> 00:56:39,180 contracts, is a credit event and all of those deals have to be 1009 00:56:39,180 --> 00:56:42,660 unwound. And Lehman Brothers is an essential part of that, you 1010 00:56:42,660 --> 00:56:47,010 know, credit default swaps are a derivative. So I think that it's 1011 00:56:47,010 --> 00:56:51,060 so big that no one understands how to unwind all of these deals 1012 00:56:51,060 --> 00:56:52,950 that are poorly documented, 1013 00:56:52,980 --> 00:56:56,040 right? Now, these derivatives of you know, there's derivatives 1014 00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,890 that go both ways. And all these years as Lehman Brothers fails, 1015 00:56:58,890 --> 00:57:01,770 there's other things making, you know, going up in value. And 1016 00:57:01,770 --> 00:57:03,600 then there's insurance derivatives, 1017 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,260 that are these companies. And if you Sorry, go ahead. 1018 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,870 There was like some they had this on the other day, there's 1019 00:57:09,870 --> 00:57:12,870 some guy who has made millions and millions off of these 1020 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,420 company have had the Bear Stearns failure because he had a 1021 00:57:15,420 --> 00:57:18,300 derivative of an insurance, I was covering this that if this 1022 00:57:18,300 --> 00:57:20,430 happened, then you know, it would go up. And if you had 1023 00:57:20,550 --> 00:57:22,830 shorted it, it would go out. It's unbelievable. I'm thinking. 1024 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,810 I was gonna say that that's been fixed now because everyone's on 1025 00:57:27,810 --> 00:57:33,450 to that and with Lehman Brothers, when it was with 1026 00:57:33,450 --> 00:57:36,900 Lehman Brothers, right now it costs to insure $10 million. 1027 00:57:37,710 --> 00:57:41,400 It's like 786 basis points. So it's almost a million dollars 1028 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,210 now to insure $10 million. If it's through Lehman, where's it 1029 00:57:45,210 --> 00:57:50,070 was like, 70,000 or some, like, some fraction of what it was a 1030 00:57:50,070 --> 00:57:52,860 couple weeks ago? Yeah. went up a little bit. 1031 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,610 Hello, yeah, sorry. Your your disconnection this week is not 1032 00:58:02,610 --> 00:58:05,340 very good. I think your daughter's downloading. So no, 1033 00:58:05,340 --> 00:58:08,280 no, she's not here. I saw um, Bemer. I'm just me and my gold. 1034 00:58:09,540 --> 00:58:13,890 Someone posted something interesting on on my drop. If 1035 00:58:13,890 --> 00:58:18,600 you go to Google Maps, I'll sedia has been wiped off. No 1036 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,360 longer is that no, seriously, no longer is the like the border 1037 00:58:21,390 --> 00:58:25,440 showing what part of Georgia is of Cydia or sexual really, he 1038 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,000 has been taken off of Google Maps. 1039 00:58:28,290 --> 00:58:31,140 Is it been made part of Georgia or Russia, that part of Georgia? 1040 00:58:32,790 --> 00:58:36,210 As little politics going on there? Oh, yeah. I think that's 1041 00:58:36,210 --> 00:58:39,090 the whole Russian thing is the one it is the story that we're I 1042 00:58:39,090 --> 00:58:41,460 mean, I even if we tried to piece it together, what's really 1043 00:58:41,460 --> 00:58:44,850 going on, I think is going to, you know, some, the whole thing 1044 00:58:44,850 --> 00:58:45,660 is flaky. 1045 00:58:46,260 --> 00:58:49,710 Well, something's gotta give somewhere, John. I mean, it's, 1046 00:58:50,010 --> 00:58:54,120 like, billions, 10s of billions of dollars has flowed out from 1047 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,200 the, from the from Russia and from the stock market. And now a 1048 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,200 lot of these oil companies and gas companies are in trouble. 1049 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,410 Because they can't access capital, either. There's just a 1050 00:59:04,410 --> 00:59:07,260 shortage of actual money, and the only solution is to print 1051 00:59:07,260 --> 00:59:10,620 it. And which no one wants to 1052 00:59:10,620 --> 00:59:13,050 do that? Well, I don't know. Maybe they're trying to for 1053 00:59:13,050 --> 00:59:15,780 here's another theory, if you're gonna go, the whole thing is set 1054 00:59:15,780 --> 00:59:18,600 up by the international banking community or whoever, which it 1055 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,380 is. Well, I'm not a complete subscriber to that. But let's 1056 00:59:22,380 --> 00:59:25,380 just say that they're trying to fix the problem that we have in 1057 00:59:25,380 --> 00:59:28,860 the United States, which is unbelievable, you know, debt 1058 00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:32,010 that we're suffering under, if you look at the most, you know, 1059 00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:35,220 countries in the world, there's a CIA document on this showing 1060 00:59:35,220 --> 00:59:39,330 all the levels of debt that various countries have were at, 1061 00:59:39,330 --> 00:59:43,230 and we're, we're not even nobody's even close to our 1062 00:59:43,230 --> 00:59:47,850 number one with a bullet baby. So we're like way out in front, 1063 00:59:47,850 --> 00:59:50,850 but the way you pay off debts, of course, is with cheap money. 1064 00:59:50,850 --> 00:59:55,140 And so you want to go into a hyperinflation economy and then 1065 00:59:55,140 --> 00:59:57,840 you can you can basically pay off all your debts really cheap 1066 00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,880 because you know, in hyperinflation, everything all 1067 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:03,960 over sudden starts going up in value, and, and which includes 1068 01:00:04,020 --> 01:00:08,580 your pay, and everything else. And then so now we say you're, 1069 01:00:08,730 --> 01:00:12,150 you're working on the basis of making $50,000 a year and you 1070 01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:16,440 had a $50,000 debt, the debt stays at $50,000. But now 1071 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,100 because of hyperinflation, you're making $500,000 a year. 1072 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,310 Yeah. Right. So you can pay that $50,000 debt off. Like there's 1073 01:00:23,310 --> 01:00:26,520 nothing, just one 10% of your salary when it was once 100% of 1074 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,890 your salary. And you know, then, of course, the next year is 1075 01:00:28,890 --> 01:00:30,570 you're making a million a year. And that to me, I mean, this 1076 01:00:30,570 --> 01:00:34,410 happened in Brazil, I have some of the Brazilian notes that I 1077 01:00:34,410 --> 01:00:38,910 have a 500,000 cruzeiro note, which was worth like, would have 1078 01:00:38,910 --> 01:00:43,260 been worth like, the equivalent of $500,000 into when I got hold 1079 01:00:43,260 --> 01:00:45,060 of it, it was worth it like a buck. 1080 01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:49,050 Well, so hold on a second. So I'm totally with you on this, 1081 01:00:49,050 --> 01:00:54,300 because that is fascinating. So how do they control that? How do 1082 01:00:54,300 --> 01:00:59,130 they under the presumption that it is the bankers? Who are the 1083 01:00:59,130 --> 01:01:03,660 true owners of the universe, and not not Lehman Brothers? But 1084 01:01:03,690 --> 01:01:08,310 guys above that? How do they how do they control that from 1085 01:01:08,310 --> 01:01:11,340 happening? Do they just go threaten the unions and make 1086 01:01:11,340 --> 01:01:14,340 sure that wages stay low? I mean, how do you counteract 1087 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,250 a hyperinflation trying to go into an inflationary mode, you 1088 01:01:17,250 --> 01:01:21,060 have to raise interest rates, right? And you can, but you can 1089 01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:24,960 only raise them so much before the economy essentially stops 1090 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,320 dead. It's almost like you know, stalling a plane, right? Which, 1091 01:01:29,130 --> 01:01:31,800 at this point, you can't, you can't raise it, because then no 1092 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,290 one will be, then the housing market will never recover. 1093 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,640 Right? So you're between a rock and a hard place. They set it up 1094 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:43,080 almost as though that you know, once the hyperinflation thing 1095 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,720 takes off, it's like what happened in Germany in the 30s. 1096 01:01:46,170 --> 01:01:49,560 Once the thing which could happen in our country in the our 1097 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,130 next decade, which would be the downturn decade. And based on my 1098 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:57,600 cyclical stuff. Once it gets once the spigots open on 1099 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,450 hyperinflation, it was very difficult to control it, it just 1100 01:02:00,450 --> 01:02:03,720 goes completely crazy. And I mean, it take it might take 1101 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,010 3456 10 years before you can get it under control. But meanwhile, 1102 01:02:08,010 --> 01:02:11,940 during that era, you can pay off all these old debts. And in a 1103 01:02:11,940 --> 01:02:15,990 hyperinflation environment, what you want to be invested in is 1104 01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:20,250 real property. Because if you have like a house, it's not 1105 01:02:20,250 --> 01:02:23,340 going to go down in value in a hyperinflation environment, it's 1106 01:02:23,340 --> 01:02:25,440 going to go up, and it's going to skyrocket as a matter of 1107 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,260 fact, so your, you know, half a million dollar home was going to 1108 01:02:28,260 --> 01:02:31,170 be worth baby 50 million for all, you know, then they have 1109 01:02:31,170 --> 01:02:36,330 to, you know, but essentially, that would fix the problem. But 1110 01:02:36,330 --> 01:02:38,880 it would cause an interesting, nobody knows exactly what the 1111 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,490 end result would be. I mean, because Germany went through it, 1112 01:02:41,490 --> 01:02:45,660 and they don't have any, you know, long term problems that I 1113 01:02:45,660 --> 01:02:48,990 can see in their economy. Brazil's gone through it, I 1114 01:02:48,990 --> 01:02:53,700 think. Argentina went through it, it's been done. 1115 01:02:54,090 --> 01:02:58,350 I think that I think the main difference in in this cycle of 1116 01:02:59,070 --> 01:03:02,940 expansion contraction, which of course is how these true owners 1117 01:03:02,940 --> 01:03:05,730 of the earth actually make their money by taking our real 1118 01:03:05,730 --> 01:03:09,630 possessions when when they contract everything is that now 1119 01:03:09,630 --> 01:03:12,510 that you know, there is nothing left? No one has any savings. 1120 01:03:12,510 --> 01:03:16,140 There's no 401 K, there's no home, we don't own our cars. 1121 01:03:16,260 --> 01:03:19,500 There's nothing left. There's nothing left to create the next 1122 01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:22,620 bubble with? You know, they do. That's the way I see it is that 1123 01:03:22,620 --> 01:03:25,080 you got bubble following on bubble and it's a 10 year, you 1124 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,660 know, whatever that cycle is, and this was the part of the 1125 01:03:27,660 --> 01:03:29,910 housing bubble, and then we got the financial bubble, and now 1126 01:03:29,910 --> 01:03:35,580 it's over. There's nothing left to take. No savings, no money, 1127 01:03:35,580 --> 01:03:36,420 there's just nothing. 1128 01:03:37,470 --> 01:03:42,060 There's there's actually, I'm not convinced that your view of 1129 01:03:42,060 --> 01:03:45,030 the scorched earth is actually accurate. I mean, I have 1130 01:03:45,330 --> 01:03:47,190 properties. And 1131 01:03:48,030 --> 01:03:52,020 John, John, you and I are in the top one percentile of animals 1132 01:03:52,020 --> 01:03:54,930 going around my neighbourhood. There's houses everywhere. 1133 01:03:54,959 --> 01:03:57,689 I mean, you live in an affluent neighbourhood. What are you 1134 01:03:57,689 --> 01:03:59,369 talking about? Middle class, 1135 01:03:59,370 --> 01:04:01,710 the area of the Northern California has nothing 1136 01:04:01,740 --> 01:04:03,300 particularly ritzy about it. 1137 01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:06,870 You know what I'm saying? No, I 1138 01:04:06,870 --> 01:04:09,270 know, I think you're wrong. I think they're more the 1139 01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:14,310 homeownership is extremely high in this country. And yeah, 1140 01:04:14,310 --> 01:04:16,230 there's a lot of people that were shaken out of their home 1141 01:04:16,230 --> 01:04:19,770 ownerships. And you think, if you look at it, not that many 1142 01:04:19,770 --> 01:04:21,780 compared to how many people actually own homes and these 1143 01:04:21,780 --> 01:04:24,810 homes will be extremely valuable in a hyperinflation environment. 1144 01:04:24,930 --> 01:04:27,510 Yes, sure. They will be but the people will never get to it and 1145 01:04:27,510 --> 01:04:29,580 they're walking away from it. They've been paying off their 1146 01:04:29,580 --> 01:04:34,560 mortgage or their credit cards. This it was unaffordable. It was 1147 01:04:34,590 --> 01:04:35,850 it was a gravy train. 1148 01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,420 All number of people, dude, 1149 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,950 I so disagree. Every everyone was on the property ladder. Hey, 1150 01:04:43,950 --> 01:04:48,060 yeah, and I just refinance. refi refi. I mean, look, turn on the 1151 01:04:48,060 --> 01:04:50,370 television. They're still trying to 1152 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,800 go no everybody reified, but they didn't necessarily put 1153 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,010 themselves into the tool hold doing it. Yes. A lot of people 1154 01:04:56,010 --> 01:04:59,220 did who just weren't a lot of people is not a it's not the 1155 01:04:59,220 --> 01:05:01,530 majority of homeowners, that's for sure. 1156 01:05:01,590 --> 01:05:02,580 How do you know? 1157 01:05:03,330 --> 01:05:08,010 I did numbers that don't make any sense 30% of the total 1158 01:05:08,010 --> 01:05:10,530 holdup, we can do some research. And in fact, I'll bet you 1159 01:05:10,530 --> 01:05:13,080 there's somebody out there that has the exact numbers. If it was 1160 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,230 10% of the total total homeowners, I'd be surprised it 1161 01:05:16,230 --> 01:05:19,500 was the number was that big? It's just be exaggerated. 1162 01:05:21,210 --> 01:05:25,470 Well, then the financial meltdown has very little to do 1163 01:05:25,470 --> 01:05:26,670 with the housing bubble, then. 1164 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,060 No, I think it has. I think it's connected. But I think there's 1165 01:05:30,060 --> 01:05:32,700 other things wrong with the financials. I mean, these guys 1166 01:05:32,700 --> 01:05:36,360 were they're doing crazy deals every which way. I mean, they 1167 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,630 were speculating on the oil. I mean, it was it Lehman Brothers, 1168 01:05:39,630 --> 01:05:43,710 or Morgan Stanley, one of the two that has the biggest they're 1169 01:05:43,710 --> 01:05:47,070 set in heating oil. I think for this winter, they they're the 1170 01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:51,180 biggest holders of the, of all the contracts at the dairy and 1171 01:05:51,180 --> 01:05:53,070 everything. These guys are gone crazy. 1172 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:59,160 Okay, well, one thing's for sure. It's overpriced. But 1173 01:06:00,420 --> 01:06:03,420 interesting to see if you also knew instead of making 50 grand, 1174 01:06:03,420 --> 01:06:06,420 you're making half a million and that you can pay off and that I 1175 01:06:06,420 --> 01:06:09,840 guess that only hurt the financial institutions. To 1176 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:14,880 banks. Yeah. Unless they have some small, small fine print. 1177 01:06:15,180 --> 01:06:18,300 They can be they can also the banks can be the banks aren't 1178 01:06:18,300 --> 01:06:19,470 going to be here, because they're going to all be out of 1179 01:06:19,470 --> 01:06:24,180 business. The the banks can deal with this, because if you really 1180 01:06:24,180 --> 01:06:27,690 think who's gonna get hurt, it's not going to be our banks. It's 1181 01:06:27,690 --> 01:06:31,140 going to be China. China is the one who holds most of the debt 1182 01:06:31,140 --> 01:06:33,630 hold all the debt. Yeah. You know, they won't do anything 1183 01:06:33,630 --> 01:06:35,790 about changing the value of their money, they won't do this, 1184 01:06:35,790 --> 01:06:37,830 they won't do that. They own all the debt, they threatened us 1185 01:06:37,830 --> 01:06:39,810 every once in a while they've done this a couple of times all 1186 01:06:39,810 --> 01:06:42,750 you know, we can start dumping your, your, you know, your debt 1187 01:06:42,750 --> 01:06:45,360 on the market is going to be your dollars gonna be worthless, 1188 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,320 they won't do that. Because they themselves. Yeah, so they won't 1189 01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,960 do that. But the fact that they threatened it, it means it's a 1190 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,420 possibility. So you know, say, Okay, well, let's just go into 1191 01:06:54,420 --> 01:06:57,810 hyperinflation take the whole thing into the stratosphere, and 1192 01:06:57,810 --> 01:07:01,800 we'll pay you guys off, get our money back. And you know, screw 1193 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,550 yeah, here, here have $1, you know, here here, half $700 1194 01:07:05,550 --> 01:07:08,280 trillion, you know, which is worth nothing. 1195 01:07:09,390 --> 01:07:13,380 Right? But can we actually keep the people in line with the 1196 01:07:13,380 --> 01:07:15,960 hyperinflation because that's, that's got to lag behind. 1197 01:07:17,220 --> 01:07:21,270 Not always lags behind. But Brazilians did it the best. And 1198 01:07:21,270 --> 01:07:23,250 if you go to Brazil, and talk about this year, and I was 1199 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,490 there, during part of that era, where you couldn't cash your 1200 01:07:26,490 --> 01:07:30,150 dollars in, you had to cash in it, like within 10 minutes, so 1201 01:07:30,150 --> 01:07:32,580 did your purchase, because it was just like, because it was 1202 01:07:32,580 --> 01:07:33,570 changing. So 1203 01:07:33,570 --> 01:07:38,520 radically speeding away, leaving a parking garage, you have to 1204 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,580 you have to go 100 miles an hour, otherwise, your parking 1205 01:07:41,580 --> 01:07:43,620 ticket costs twice as much by the time you get out. 1206 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,520 So that the banks there are the ones who saved the day for the 1207 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,610 general public, which is when you got your pay for that week, 1208 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,870 which would increase on a weekly basis, because of the values go 1209 01:07:54,870 --> 01:07:56,760 right into the bank, and the bank would have all the 1210 01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:00,990 mechanisms in place to ratchet, whatever was they were holding 1211 01:08:01,230 --> 01:08:04,020 with the inflation, right? So in other words, the interest rates 1212 01:08:04,020 --> 01:08:07,050 were quite high. And so they would you'd get your money in 1213 01:08:07,050 --> 01:08:09,060 there real quick, and then it would ratchet while it was in 1214 01:08:09,060 --> 01:08:12,870 there. But it didn't, you know, discouraged actually having 1215 01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:13,650 cash. 1216 01:08:14,190 --> 01:08:16,620 So which countries did that? Have? I want to look this up? 1217 01:08:17,130 --> 01:08:20,670 Brazil, had one of the more interesting periods. And I think 1218 01:08:20,670 --> 01:08:24,270 that was in a look in the 70s and 80s, I think something like 1219 01:08:24,270 --> 01:08:29,400 that. And then Argentina had a bout of this. And I think many 1220 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:33,120 of the South American countries had about you can go to 1221 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:34,020 Zimbabwe. 1222 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:39,300 I actually had Zimbabwe written down on my on my list of things 1223 01:08:39,300 --> 01:08:42,090 to talk about with you today because I wanted to understand 1224 01:08:42,810 --> 01:08:45,810 maybe you have an idea. How does this work now they've got 1225 01:08:46,770 --> 01:08:52,200 something Gary swung swung Gary, who was elected as the new 1226 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,640 leader of the country, but they still leave Mugabe in there and 1227 01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,310 he's like, he's like still the president or something. How does 1228 01:08:59,310 --> 01:09:00,810 that work? That's it. 1229 01:09:01,109 --> 01:09:02,399 They can get rid of the guy 1230 01:09:03,930 --> 01:09:07,020 that's crazy. He then what kind of power does he must have the 1231 01:09:07,020 --> 01:09:10,230 power of the people behind him? This is what everyone calls now. 1232 01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:14,819 He's got the secret police. He has actually the Shah of Iran. 1233 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,240 Yeah, but what do you How come on the CIA can go in there and 1234 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:22,350 kick his ass anytime they want. Do you think they want to? Well, 1235 01:09:22,350 --> 01:09:25,620 Zimbabwe or Rhodesia is never at the no one's ever been able to 1236 01:09:25,650 --> 01:09:27,900 control it. But yeah, I think they do. Of course they want to 1237 01:09:27,900 --> 01:09:29,370 it's just been extremely difficult. I 1238 01:09:29,820 --> 01:09:32,670 could tell me why do they care? So it's a comedy acting 1239 01:09:32,670 --> 01:09:33,750 everyone's getting a kick out of it. 1240 01:09:33,780 --> 01:09:35,280 Come on Zimbabwe has something 1241 01:09:36,930 --> 01:09:39,300 I think has already been pulled out whatever it is, but I'll 1242 01:09:39,300 --> 01:09:41,970 tell you this. There's an example of modern 1243 01:09:41,970 --> 01:09:45,030 hyperinflation. And I by the way, somebody sent me a note I'm 1244 01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:49,290 gonna thank him later. They get a guy trying to get some mugabi 1245 01:09:49,290 --> 01:09:52,050 dollars which are the dot which are the hyperemia that Sunday 1246 01:09:52,050 --> 01:09:54,570 now you buy stuff with a brick you know they have you just the 1247 01:09:54,570 --> 01:09:56,970 money so worthless that they brick it up and put a rubber 1248 01:09:56,970 --> 01:09:59,940 band around it and you know you but you know you trade into wait 1249 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,990 I have the worthless money but there's these bills I got that 1250 01:10:03,990 --> 01:10:07,230 have Mugabe's picture on him. I'm trying to get some mugabi 1251 01:10:07,230 --> 01:10:07,650 money. 1252 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,690 You've only mentioned this five times, you know, 1253 01:10:09,870 --> 01:10:12,240 I mentioned it the last time I'm not going to mention it again. I 1254 01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:13,920 mean, I'm gonna have to go through other channels, 1255 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,090 obviously, to get this money. 1256 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,700 We have more listeners now. So it may just happen your watch, 1257 01:10:17,730 --> 01:10:19,140 you'll start getting your books, some guy said 1258 01:10:19,140 --> 01:10:22,800 he's got a million dollar move got a million dollar Zimbabwe 1259 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,080 note, but it doesn't have Mugabe's picture on it. He's 1260 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,050 gonna send it to me anyway. And so I have this, I have a million 1261 01:10:28,050 --> 01:10:33,450 dollar note. And in dollars, it's worth like, two cents or a 1262 01:10:33,450 --> 01:10:37,260 penny, and but to a collector might be worth $1. So you know, 1263 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,060 whatever the case, there's a that's an example of you know, 1264 01:10:42,060 --> 01:10:47,100 of a situation where you have hyperinflation run amok. To make 1265 01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:50,490 it say, you know, it, you know, what are you doing, you're, you 1266 01:10:50,490 --> 01:10:53,070 see the thing, this is one of the reasons, I believe that most 1267 01:10:53,070 --> 01:10:56,460 of our debt is kept in dollars, and that every time somebody 1268 01:10:56,460 --> 01:10:59,010 wants to switch to the euro, we get upset about it. I always 1269 01:10:59,010 --> 01:11:01,620 thought it would be fine if people switch the Euros and then 1270 01:11:01,620 --> 01:11:03,990 we could reverse the trend of the value of the dollar. And 1271 01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:07,050 then we could kind of screw over anyone who went to the euro. 1272 01:11:07,470 --> 01:11:10,770 Well, the Euro has to come down. Now. That's what the European 1273 01:11:10,770 --> 01:11:15,210 Central Bank is realising. As it says, got to come down in value. 1274 01:11:16,650 --> 01:11:20,340 It's too high. Yeah. I was looking at it. And of course, 1275 01:11:20,340 --> 01:11:22,470 every time you mentioned, this is always somebody writes it 1276 01:11:22,470 --> 01:11:25,110 right? You don't understand that we international mechanisms, 1277 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,260 because I always like to mention wine prices. And I came up with 1278 01:11:28,260 --> 01:11:30,960 another one yesterday. So I'm looking at this one, it's a very 1279 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,750 small may doc wine I thought was pretty tasty. I had it was like 1280 01:11:33,780 --> 01:11:40,350 $13.95, inexpensive Bordeaux, that was being sold locally. And 1281 01:11:40,350 --> 01:11:42,750 so I decided to look up the chateau, which I never heard of 1282 01:11:42,750 --> 01:11:44,880 before. And I look it up. And there, they had it for sale in 1283 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,510 England. And one of the better places that had that has good 1284 01:11:48,510 --> 01:11:54,390 prices. And it was it was 10 pounds, 90. So the rain in 1285 01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:59,970 England was $22. And the wine here is was $14. And I'm 1286 01:11:59,970 --> 01:12:02,700 thinking the wine is coming from France, which is a you know, you 1287 01:12:02,700 --> 01:12:06,000 could throw the bottles from Bordeaux and hit London. So it 1288 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,460 wasn't like a big shipping problem. And to get the wine to 1289 01:12:08,460 --> 01:12:11,730 California, you got to ship across the Atlantic Ocean, you'd 1290 01:12:11,730 --> 01:12:14,550 put it on a train across the country, you got to run it 1291 01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:17,490 around the Panama Canal. And this is a long way that must be 1292 01:12:17,490 --> 01:12:19,830 five bucks and shipping to get this bottle of wine over here 1293 01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:24,750 yet it's still cheaper, by a good 678 bucks. What's wrong 1294 01:12:24,750 --> 01:12:25,620 with this picture? 1295 01:12:27,390 --> 01:12:30,360 Well, they have to manipulate the markets better. 1296 01:12:32,250 --> 01:12:36,690 And you know, just you see this obvious discrepancies about why 1297 01:12:36,930 --> 01:12:42,180 is somebody in England paying 22 bucks for and this is in you 1298 01:12:42,180 --> 01:12:44,520 know, and this thing is obviously sold as a new wine. So 1299 01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:48,630 it's been sold in euros, which is you know, skewed toward, away 1300 01:12:48,630 --> 01:12:52,710 from the US. Why am I getting this stuff so much cheaper here. 1301 01:12:53,100 --> 01:12:56,100 It doesn't make any sense. Unless the whole system is like 1302 01:12:56,100 --> 01:13:00,960 caulk guide. Me. And that's why I mean, it's like this. I talked 1303 01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,600 about the other week, where these, you go to San Francisco 1304 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,720 places crawling with Germans and French and Italians, and a lot 1305 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,600 of British and they're buying up the place because it's like, 1306 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,970 they get all this stuff dirt cheap. But you look at what 1307 01:13:11,970 --> 01:13:14,220 they're buying and half the stuffs import imported from 1308 01:13:14,220 --> 01:13:17,310 Europe. I mean, it's like, why are you buying stuff here when 1309 01:13:17,310 --> 01:13:20,880 you? You know, it's like when I go to Tokyo, and you go to the 1310 01:13:20,910 --> 01:13:23,520 gins and you go to those stores and you look in there they have 1311 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,690 all this European stuff in there. It's so expensive. That 1312 01:13:27,690 --> 01:13:30,750 you go oh my god, why would I even be buying this stuff? You 1313 01:13:30,750 --> 01:13:33,240 know, here's ridiculous then you realise this because it's coming 1314 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,610 all the way from Europe, you know, and it's showing up in a 1315 01:13:35,610 --> 01:13:40,080 Japanese store. Yeah, it's not going to be cheaper. But it is 1316 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:40,680 here. 1317 01:13:42,510 --> 01:13:48,300 Let me switch gears here for a second big news about Sotheby's 1318 01:13:48,300 --> 01:13:53,790 the auction house for the for the first time ever a living 1319 01:13:53,790 --> 01:13:57,960 artist Damien Hirst. Have you heard of this guy? No. This is 1320 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:02,340 the guy who does stuff he does like animals and formaldehyde 1321 01:14:02,340 --> 01:14:12,000 and really weird art. Okay, so he set up for an auction on I 1322 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:18,780 think it's Monday which is estimated to sell 65 million 1323 01:14:18,780 --> 01:14:21,780 pounds worth this is uh, this may be the guy who actually the 1324 01:14:21,780 --> 01:14:26,460 I wonder if he did the the the fat Council collector or 1325 01:14:26,460 --> 01:14:30,810 whatever it was that we talked about aeons ago. But anyway, 1326 01:14:30,810 --> 01:14:33,780 he's going directly through the Auction House. I don't know much 1327 01:14:33,780 --> 01:14:36,120 about auctions, but I do know that when people are worried 1328 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:40,320 about something he's not going through an agent. And now you 1329 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,020 know, this is and of course this stuff is all subjective anyway, 1330 01:14:43,020 --> 01:14:46,890 and it's, you know, what is art worth other than the materials 1331 01:14:46,890 --> 01:14:50,280 that it was put together with? Or as Andy Warhol would say what 1332 01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:54,600 you can get away with and and so there's people are thinking this 1333 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:59,820 is going to flop which would just kill the wealth kill a lot 1334 01:14:59,820 --> 01:15:03,660 of Um, how the art world is thinking now that, you know, the 1335 01:15:03,690 --> 01:15:07,260 they've all the grandmasters have all been bought up and no 1336 01:15:07,260 --> 01:15:09,540 one's selling anymore, and they're all hidden away or been 1337 01:15:09,540 --> 01:15:12,270 stolen or whatever. And now people are going after living 1338 01:15:12,270 --> 01:15:15,390 artists. And so it's it's interesting, it's something 1339 01:15:15,390 --> 01:15:17,250 that's never happened in their history before. 1340 01:15:18,300 --> 01:15:22,170 You know, living artists stuff isn't dirt cheap. Now, this 1341 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,790 guy's just saying I'm saying if, if living artists stuff isn't 1342 01:15:26,790 --> 01:15:31,530 dirt cheap, there's not going to move. I mean, the only appeal of 1343 01:15:31,530 --> 01:15:33,810 living artists, generally speaking, is to have a nice 1344 01:15:33,810 --> 01:15:38,910 decorative piece of possibly good art, inexpensively, 1345 01:15:38,970 --> 01:15:40,320 relatively speaking. 1346 01:15:41,940 --> 01:15:43,350 Well, I don't know, 1347 01:15:43,770 --> 01:15:46,140 who's gonna be paying, you know, this kind of money unless you're 1348 01:15:46,140 --> 01:15:48,390 projecting into the future, that's going to be worth more 1349 01:15:48,420 --> 01:15:50,640 because it's obviously when you get into the millions of dollars 1350 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:54,240 as investment grade art. And I don't, I'm not seeing it. But 1351 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,230 I read this differently. The what I read is that you bypass 1352 01:15:58,230 --> 01:16:00,870 the dealer, the dealer is, of course, the key guy, because 1353 01:16:00,870 --> 01:16:03,780 he's the one that inflates the value in the market and is out 1354 01:16:03,780 --> 01:16:07,110 there doing the PR and the bullshit. So now the artists is 1355 01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:10,770 going direct, I don't know if 65 million pounds is dirt cheap. 1356 01:16:12,390 --> 01:16:14,700 That it is, it's not inexpensive. But let's put it 1357 01:16:14,700 --> 01:16:16,920 this way if anyone had gone through, and I think anyone who 1358 01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,970 out there collects art from living artists, you 90% of the 1359 01:16:20,970 --> 01:16:24,270 time that you find an artist you like you go bypass the dealer 1360 01:16:24,270 --> 01:16:26,130 anyway, this is one of the reasons that dealers have to 1361 01:16:26,130 --> 01:16:28,860 mark stuff up because they know this goes on and the artists say 1362 01:16:28,860 --> 01:16:30,840 oh, you know, I've got an exclusive with such and such a 1363 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,560 gallery. That's bull, you can find an artist, you know that 1364 01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,950 you really like you just track them down. You go to their 1365 01:16:37,950 --> 01:16:41,130 studio, you fall all over yourself. And the next thing you 1366 01:16:41,130 --> 01:16:44,160 know you're getting the stuff at the artists price to the dealer 1367 01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:50,760 or less. I mean, I've had people give me stuff. And so that's not 1368 01:16:50,790 --> 01:16:53,340 that's bull. That sounds like the whole thing is a publicity 1369 01:16:53,340 --> 01:16:55,380 stunt to Oh, we don't have to go through the dealer and go 1370 01:16:55,380 --> 01:16:57,570 straight to the auction house. If you really want this guy 1371 01:16:57,570 --> 01:17:00,510 stuff. Just go visit the guy. He's not like hiding. 1372 01:17:00,540 --> 01:17:04,620 Speaking of bull the sale centrepiece is the golden calf a 1373 01:17:04,620 --> 01:17:08,940 sculpture of a book in formaldehyde with hooves and 1374 01:17:08,940 --> 01:17:13,170 horns cast in 18 karat solid gold expected to sell before 1375 01:17:13,170 --> 01:17:17,610 between eight and 12 million pounds. It's a bargain 1376 01:17:18,389 --> 01:17:19,859 if they're given it away 1377 01:17:20,700 --> 01:17:21,630 by two. 1378 01:17:23,730 --> 01:17:26,160 Anyway, I'm just saying the whole thing sounds like a scam 1379 01:17:26,250 --> 01:17:31,050 and some tech news that you might be interested in the 1380 01:17:31,740 --> 01:17:33,870 government the government commission, way, way, way, 1381 01:17:33,900 --> 01:17:35,940 way before you go into the tech news. I'm gonna just add one 1382 01:17:35,940 --> 01:17:39,330 more little thing that I think by the way that most art you 1383 01:17:39,330 --> 01:17:42,270 know, the whole art scene is something of a scam anyway, of 1384 01:17:42,270 --> 01:17:46,620 course it is bright, but it's so I want so I like rugs. You know, 1385 01:17:46,620 --> 01:17:49,050 I like Turkish and Persian Persian carpets, by the way are 1386 01:17:49,050 --> 01:17:50,310 dirt cheap now you can get them 1387 01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,490 rather well socks like before, before Iran. But 1388 01:17:54,300 --> 01:17:57,870 I've always been fascinated. I've always been fascinated by 1389 01:17:57,870 --> 01:18:00,270 like these carpets is because they're all handmade and I like 1390 01:18:00,270 --> 01:18:04,320 to different sizes. And if I like to flat weeds too, but so I 1391 01:18:04,410 --> 01:18:06,270 know enough. And I read books and I tried to figure out 1392 01:18:06,270 --> 01:18:08,490 because this worst is worse, much worse than wine. And this 1393 01:18:08,490 --> 01:18:11,340 is like extremely complicated business. So I finally found 1394 01:18:11,340 --> 01:18:17,910 some expert. And he only had one word of advice. This guy knows 1395 01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:20,490 everything in the world about rugs and the Turkish rugs and 1396 01:18:20,490 --> 01:18:23,250 the Afghan rugs and the war rugs and all the rest of them. And I 1397 01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,190 and I said so he gave me the sage piece of advice. He says 1398 01:18:26,190 --> 01:18:28,980 whatever you paid for a rug, you paid too much. 1399 01:18:31,020 --> 01:18:34,170 That's like the advice I got when I looked at buying my own 1400 01:18:34,170 --> 01:18:37,680 plane. And the advice was if it floats, flies a foreigner case 1401 01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:44,160 you should rent it. So the UK commissioned a the government 1402 01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:48,330 commissioned a report about the internet because he of course, 1403 01:18:48,330 --> 01:18:50,460 just like America, you know, said we have to be leading we 1404 01:18:50,460 --> 01:18:54,540 have to be the leaders, we need more bandwidth. And so what 1405 01:18:54,540 --> 01:18:56,790 they're contemplating now, and I didn't know that this was an 1406 01:18:56,790 --> 01:18:59,550 issue, but now that I think about it, it's obviously a 1407 01:18:59,550 --> 01:19:03,990 beautification issue. They're now talking about allowing fibre 1408 01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:07,980 to run to run above ground in order to to make it cheaper and 1409 01:19:07,980 --> 01:19:09,090 to roll it out faster. 1410 01:19:10,650 --> 01:19:11,640 That's not new. 1411 01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:13,320 It is here. 1412 01:19:13,889 --> 01:19:16,649 We don't know because we have fibre come into our place in 1413 01:19:16,649 --> 01:19:17,399 Port Angeles. 1414 01:19:18,150 --> 01:19:21,120 You have to understand in America a telephone wires and 1415 01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,090 all this stuff and electricity is above ground in many 1416 01:19:24,090 --> 01:19:27,360 countries in the world, John it's and it's below ground. And 1417 01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,100 that's dumb because people think it's ugly. 1418 01:19:29,910 --> 01:19:32,700 It is well you know, I think it's charming to be honest about 1419 01:19:32,700 --> 01:19:32,850 it. 1420 01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:36,810 I hate it because it really reduces the amount of places I 1421 01:19:36,810 --> 01:19:38,760 can land my plane and an emergency. 1422 01:19:39,179 --> 01:19:42,659 Well that I can understand. But I'm looking at the I'm looking 1423 01:19:42,659 --> 01:19:45,749 at there's some neighbourhoods around here that have you know, 1424 01:19:45,749 --> 01:19:48,239 they we do that too. We go underground and always ends up 1425 01:19:48,239 --> 01:19:51,929 getting flooded by the rain and it's shorts out it's a disaster, 1426 01:19:52,289 --> 01:19:54,719 but it would but to some of the neighbourhoods that had the 1427 01:19:54,719 --> 01:19:57,179 telephone poles and they were like loaded with all kinds of 1428 01:19:57,209 --> 01:20:00,329 you know, cable TV and and people just wire any Hang on 1429 01:20:00,329 --> 01:20:04,259 there. Then they took the poles down and put it all underground 1430 01:20:04,259 --> 01:20:08,129 and it looks kind of stir rile it doesn't have any life to it. 1431 01:20:08,129 --> 01:20:10,559 I mean, it's just like, you know, just looks kind of, it's 1432 01:20:10,559 --> 01:20:14,339 creepy to me. Oh, girl, I was raised in an environment filled 1433 01:20:14,339 --> 01:20:18,089 with telephone poles, I have to say, but it's something creepy 1434 01:20:18,089 --> 01:20:20,879 about the polis areas, there's no, you don't feel the 1435 01:20:20,879 --> 01:20:23,999 connection between people. I mean, you can visibly see the 1436 01:20:23,999 --> 01:20:26,789 connections. I mean, you see, this guy's hooked up a pole, you 1437 01:20:26,789 --> 01:20:29,849 know, and I'm hooked to the pole, and I got a cable TV thing 1438 01:20:29,849 --> 01:20:32,429 coming in. And, you know, and it's easier for them to make 1439 01:20:32,429 --> 01:20:34,979 changes they want to bring you want to bring an extra line and 1440 01:20:34,979 --> 01:20:35,699 you know, they just want to 1441 01:20:37,230 --> 01:20:40,230 throw it over the phone. That's true. I've never thought of it 1442 01:20:40,230 --> 01:20:42,780 that way is as you can see the connections between people. 1443 01:20:43,589 --> 01:20:46,289 As in Yeah, I think it's Yeah, and I've always found it to be 1444 01:20:46,319 --> 01:20:48,959 somewhat comforting. And it's kind of cool to find you go to 1445 01:20:48,959 --> 01:20:51,599 the old part of the, you know, some old little town in the 1446 01:20:51,599 --> 01:20:54,659 middle of nowhere, and they have all these old metal poles, and 1447 01:20:54,659 --> 01:20:58,289 they told me glass insulators and is still you know, it's 1448 01:20:58,319 --> 01:21:02,999 sparking, working, you know, and and go, Wow, it's just something 1449 01:21:02,999 --> 01:21:05,519 about it. I don't know, I think it's charming in the fact that 1450 01:21:05,519 --> 01:21:08,609 people that want to rip these poles down, I can see in in 1451 01:21:08,609 --> 01:21:11,069 areas where you can't afford the wood, because these poles are, 1452 01:21:11,069 --> 01:21:14,849 you know, typically, you know, pretty tall trees, but I don't 1453 01:21:14,849 --> 01:21:17,849 know, doesn't bother me. Let's put it that way. 1454 01:21:18,210 --> 01:21:22,170 Right. Well, anyway, it's a big deal over here, because people 1455 01:21:22,170 --> 01:21:26,490 don't like their wires running around above ground. It's not. 1456 01:21:28,290 --> 01:21:30,990 Yeah, well, in a city, of course. I mean, it's, you don't 1457 01:21:30,990 --> 01:21:33,390 want it because it doesn't make any sense. And you got a big 1458 01:21:33,420 --> 01:21:35,670 skyscraper and a telephone pole. 1459 01:21:36,090 --> 01:21:39,540 that cities are never the problem in that London's got 20 1460 01:21:39,540 --> 01:21:43,380 megabytes per second up and down, and they've got the shit. 1461 01:21:43,380 --> 01:21:48,420 I'm still doing. One megabit down. 300 kilobytes up from 1462 01:21:48,420 --> 01:21:52,560 where I am fastest I can get. Yeah. And pretty late. And boy, 1463 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,420 it shows when we do these shows, doesn't it? 1464 01:21:55,020 --> 01:21:59,640 Well, sometimes. But you know, that's a pretty blame connection 1465 01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:00,270 for today. 1466 01:22:00,390 --> 01:22:03,990 It's really lame. And it's just because I'm too far away from 1467 01:22:03,990 --> 01:22:05,100 the exchange and it just 1468 01:22:05,580 --> 01:22:09,120 to get a good connection as a backup. Yeah, you know, well, 1469 01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:09,600 actually, I have 1470 01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:13,050 one of those Vodafone dongles that you plug into your laptop. 1471 01:22:13,500 --> 01:22:17,130 And although there is a limit, so I can't use it all the time. 1472 01:22:17,130 --> 01:22:21,450 whenever I upload a show. I always plug that in, because it 1473 01:22:21,450 --> 01:22:25,140 uploads at almost a megabit per second. I have to the wireless 1474 01:22:25,140 --> 01:22:27,060 connection is better than the wired connection. 1475 01:22:28,620 --> 01:22:34,170 Yeah, that's that there's no reason for that. That's wrong. I 1476 01:22:34,170 --> 01:22:37,860 don't think you know, wireless is great, but I'm not wired is, 1477 01:22:38,220 --> 01:22:45,060 is best. I'm down with that. So what else? You got your notes? 1478 01:22:46,020 --> 01:22:49,380 And I didn't get an only note I had was to do the Sarah Palin 1479 01:22:49,950 --> 01:22:52,950 lipstick thing because somebody was interested on Twitter. They 1480 01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:56,820 mentioned you got to talk about it. What's your opinion? And I 1481 01:22:56,820 --> 01:22:58,890 also had a theory Oh, yeah, I did have one thing I was gonna 1482 01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:03,600 do, which was my I was gonna send you this video. But it was 1483 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:09,660 a picture. It was Clinton talking to Obama. He was going 1484 01:23:09,660 --> 01:23:13,170 to have lunch with him. And then he was doing this thing. He came 1485 01:23:13,170 --> 01:23:15,840 out and says he's going to that Obama is going to win, Haley, 1486 01:23:15,870 --> 01:23:18,870 he's going to win big is what he said. Well, he said the word was 1487 01:23:18,870 --> 01:23:22,200 handily actually Oh, I thought you said big. Okay. Anyway, so 1488 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,900 he would he they showed this video. It's on the blog. And 1489 01:23:24,900 --> 01:23:27,480 Clinton is standing there with his mouth open. He looks like 1490 01:23:27,480 --> 01:23:32,610 he's gassed. And he goes, sorry, 1491 01:23:32,670 --> 01:23:34,530 he doesn't look well. No, he 1492 01:23:34,530 --> 01:23:36,690 doesn't look well. He looks like he's drunk, actually. And he 1493 01:23:36,690 --> 01:23:40,380 sounds kind of slurry. And I think and now this is like out 1494 01:23:40,380 --> 01:23:42,840 there. And I'm thinking I should I even bring this up because 1495 01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:46,440 it's obvious that Clinton, Bill Clinton, once Obama, when he 1496 01:23:46,440 --> 01:23:50,760 he'll do anything for him to win for obvious reasons. He doesn't 1497 01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,790 want his wife running in 2012. Because it's a big hassle. And 1498 01:23:53,790 --> 01:23:56,790 if she gets to be president, he's life has ruined. Right. 1499 01:23:57,630 --> 01:23:58,170 Okay, 1500 01:23:58,200 --> 01:23:59,970 I hadn't thought of that. Yeah, that makes sense, 1501 01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:05,280 is why his life has ruined me. Well, she wants to him to lose, 1502 01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:08,790 because she knows she has a shot in 2012. If he does, you know, I 1503 01:24:08,790 --> 01:24:11,160 mean, this is gonna be your last shot. And she'd love to be 1504 01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:12,930 president. Otherwise, she wouldn't have put all this work 1505 01:24:12,930 --> 01:24:15,960 into it. So she wants him to lose and he wants him to win. 1506 01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,390 I'm wondering if she's either poisoning him. 1507 01:24:18,420 --> 01:24:21,150 Yes, he's gonna kill him. There you go there. Thank you, John. I 1508 01:24:21,150 --> 01:24:26,820 love that theory. Next on the Clinton hit list is Bill. 1509 01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:32,370 I mean, it just seems to me that he doesn't look himself. And 1510 01:24:32,370 --> 01:24:35,430 he's kind of dinghy. And she's, I'm sure he's not happy with 1511 01:24:35,430 --> 01:24:38,490 this, him going and meeting with Obama and then now going to 1512 01:24:38,490 --> 01:24:41,880 Florida to promote him and all the rest of it. And you know, I 1513 01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:45,000 don't know if she has access to his food. But then again, it 1514 01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,160 could be you know, anybody who would want to get him out of the 1515 01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,440 picture, but then again, it could also be the Obama people 1516 01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:53,550 because if Clinton for some reason, and I'm not wishing this 1517 01:24:53,550 --> 01:24:56,820 on the guy because he's, you know, not even old enough to be 1518 01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:02,310 elderly. If something happened to me He died, let's say from 1519 01:25:02,340 --> 01:25:05,880 natural causes you have a heart attack as part of a heart attack 1520 01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,790 or from the bad luck with operation or who knows what drug 1521 01:25:08,820 --> 01:25:11,520 the drugs that he had to take. I mean, there's a million plus, it 1522 01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:16,950 would create a huge sympathy vote for Obama and Oh, man. So I 1523 01:25:16,950 --> 01:25:19,680 mean, so you're on his camp could be killing him for all we 1524 01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:25,110 know it. I mean, it's just like, there's too many. There's too 1525 01:25:25,110 --> 01:25:27,240 many parties that did, it would be a great mystery, by the way, 1526 01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,850 too, right? Because there's all these different parties that 1527 01:25:29,850 --> 01:25:33,930 would like to get rid of him for all kinds of different reasons. 1528 01:25:33,930 --> 01:25:37,260 And then again, if it would cause a symphony, a sympathy 1529 01:25:37,260 --> 01:25:41,580 vote for Obama, then would Hillary really want him gone? Or 1530 01:25:41,580 --> 01:25:46,080 then forget that let's Don't Kill Bill. Let's just make him 1531 01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,140 kind of dinghy and like a goofball. You know, because 1532 01:25:49,140 --> 01:25:51,300 he's, you know, who knows? So he's just, 1533 01:25:52,770 --> 01:25:54,270 he can get through, you can get through any kind of 1534 01:25:54,270 --> 01:25:56,250 embarrassment. Let me analyse what you're saying, because 1535 01:25:56,250 --> 01:25:59,670 that's very interesting. First of all, I think, the idea that 1536 01:25:59,670 --> 01:26:06,450 he would hate to be the first, the first man is spot on, 1537 01:26:06,450 --> 01:26:09,630 because that effectively takes away his main source of income 1538 01:26:09,630 --> 01:26:12,960 was just millions and millions and millions of dollars on the 1539 01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:16,020 speaking circuit. I guess. You can't do that when you're 1540 01:26:16,050 --> 01:26:19,710 married to the President. So that would probably suck because 1541 01:26:19,740 --> 01:26:24,510 and you and I, and you, and I know this, the guy is notorious 1542 01:26:24,510 --> 01:26:27,780 cokehead. This is probably what caused his heart trouble in the 1543 01:26:27,780 --> 01:26:30,450 first place. He may still be snorting coke. Do you think you 1544 01:26:30,450 --> 01:26:30,960 look high? 1545 01:26:32,340 --> 01:26:34,560 He didn't look coked up. Let's put it that way. I don't think 1546 01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,050 so. But he just seemed like he was like, didn't get enough 1547 01:26:37,050 --> 01:26:38,640 sleep or his Jesus shadow. 1548 01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:42,600 When he's when he turned towards Obama. And it was on profile. 1549 01:26:42,690 --> 01:26:46,170 He's a shadow of himself. He's really, really thin. He's, like, 1550 01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,350 almost a Steve Jobs like transformation. You know. And 1551 01:26:49,350 --> 01:26:53,940 Steve Jobs was seriously ill. Clinton had a has a serious 1552 01:26:53,940 --> 01:26:59,460 heart issue. But he has not he's not gained back any of his 1553 01:26:59,460 --> 01:27:02,820 posture. He was a bit he's a big guy. 1554 01:27:03,330 --> 01:27:05,790 Yeah, yeah. And he used to work out eating 1555 01:27:05,790 --> 01:27:10,080 away. So anyway, so that so that makes that meant, well, he 1556 01:27:10,110 --> 01:27:12,660 wouldn't be hard if he's if he's still a cokehead, it wouldn't be 1557 01:27:12,660 --> 01:27:16,050 hard to to keep him addicted. 1558 01:27:17,130 --> 01:27:20,040 Oh, man, maybe I'm not buying that. I mean, at his age with 1559 01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,890 the bad heart, I can't imagine him not having enough willpower 1560 01:27:22,890 --> 01:27:25,800 to just say no to that. And I always wondered about people 1561 01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,620 that are using drugs in their older years. It doesn't make a 1562 01:27:28,620 --> 01:27:34,470 lot of sense to me. But the heat something's up is all I know. It 1563 01:27:34,470 --> 01:27:38,460 just seems he seemed dinghy. He looked like he was like, in some 1564 01:27:38,460 --> 01:27:41,880 other planet. And then he makes these crazy assertions, which, 1565 01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,580 you know, he's just thought Hillary was gonna win too, as 1566 01:27:44,580 --> 01:27:48,090 somebody pointed out, but I just think that this guy's in like, 1567 01:27:48,090 --> 01:27:50,670 in you know, he's part of whatever we're going to see in 1568 01:27:50,670 --> 01:27:53,310 the next eight weeks or seven weeks is going to be he's going 1569 01:27:53,310 --> 01:27:56,670 to be part of the action is going to be. Again, like I said, 1570 01:27:56,670 --> 01:27:59,610 when we started the show, this is going to be hilarious little 1571 01:27:59,610 --> 01:28:02,220 period to watch, you know, give us some to talk about and I'll 1572 01:28:02,220 --> 01:28:05,220 tell you, my, my blog numbers are way up because we do a lot 1573 01:28:05,220 --> 01:28:10,260 of political blog posts. Mostly my bloggers are all a bunch of 1574 01:28:10,260 --> 01:28:13,890 Democrats generally. And we're going to thank Bubba, by the way 1575 01:28:13,890 --> 01:28:14,610 for putting the notes 1576 01:28:15,060 --> 01:28:20,070 right onto bubba. Hey, so I look this up here. So he said Obama 1577 01:28:20,070 --> 01:28:26,040 will will win handily. Yeah, handily advised, said handily, 1578 01:28:26,070 --> 01:28:31,410 skillfully deck seriously dexterously expertly, 1579 01:28:31,620 --> 01:28:36,030 conveniently, or easily, easily is actually the third meaning 1580 01:28:36,030 --> 01:28:36,930 according to 1581 01:28:37,050 --> 01:28:41,130 Yeah, I think he meant easily. And then last night on the Bill 1582 01:28:41,130 --> 01:28:44,850 Maher show you had your typical two you had two Democrats, 1583 01:28:45,090 --> 01:28:48,630 Salman Rushdie, who I didn't realise was almost a you know, a 1584 01:28:48,630 --> 01:28:52,500 socialist, and, and Janine Garoppolo who was like, you 1585 01:28:52,500 --> 01:28:54,480 know, this, you know, woman, 1586 01:28:54,510 --> 01:28:58,770 by the way, by the way, I love Janine garofolo. So lay off. 1587 01:28:59,730 --> 01:29:02,610 She's awesome. Have you seen those digits? You could just see 1588 01:29:02,610 --> 01:29:05,700 her tattoos on her arms. Yeah, she got tattoos. Lots of 1589 01:29:05,700 --> 01:29:07,020 tattoos. Now she's hot, man. There's 1590 01:29:07,020 --> 01:29:09,450 something really hot about her. I like her. I've never thought 1591 01:29:09,450 --> 01:29:11,730 her as hot in any way. But that's okay with you. I 1592 01:29:11,730 --> 01:29:15,360 love all willing because they're all Sun princesses. Okay. 1593 01:29:16,470 --> 01:29:21,000 Can I finish? Yes. So the two of them. These two are sitting next 1594 01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:23,730 year. They both agree. And by the way, there's a guy from Wall 1595 01:29:23,730 --> 01:29:26,820 Street Journal, John Ford, I think is his name, who actually 1596 01:29:26,820 --> 01:29:30,000 stood up to everybody very nice them at the sentiment email. But 1597 01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:34,740 anyway, the these two both agreed to each other. That is 1598 01:29:34,740 --> 01:29:39,390 going to be a landslide for Obama really matter what anybody 1599 01:29:39,390 --> 01:29:41,940 thinks. And that's they're not the only ones who feel this way. 1600 01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:43,890 And that's where I think the Clinton thing came from. 1601 01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:48,120 Interesting. And what's interesting to me is that if you 1602 01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,340 go to the other side of the fence, and I'm like, try to 1603 01:29:50,370 --> 01:29:53,580 listen to both sides, for the purposes of this show, have no 1604 01:29:53,580 --> 01:29:58,410 other reason to listen to Rush Limbaugh, who has become a very 1605 01:29:58,410 --> 01:30:03,240 good deconstructionist. He believes it'll be a landslide 1606 01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,760 from you know, he's doesn't say it'll be a landslide for McCain, 1607 01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:09,060 but he says he wouldn't be surprised. And I'm kind of more 1608 01:30:09,060 --> 01:30:10,470 in agreement with him. Well, 1609 01:30:10,499 --> 01:30:13,949 I think, except there's one. There's one little catch, which 1610 01:30:13,949 --> 01:30:18,719 is, although it was I think it was poorly executed. Ron Paul's 1611 01:30:18,719 --> 01:30:22,499 endorsement. Where do you endorse what? What exactly 1612 01:30:22,499 --> 01:30:24,209 happened there? At first it really 1613 01:30:24,210 --> 01:30:26,580 was where I never got to see the end of it. I know that we're 1614 01:30:26,580 --> 01:30:28,560 gonna do some sort of a deal I thought they were gonna run the 1615 01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:34,650 guy was he gonna say this guy web not web. But the, that other 1616 01:30:34,650 --> 01:30:37,920 the the Libertarian candidate? Did he endorse him? 1617 01:30:38,459 --> 01:30:41,429 I'm looking it up. Because and this is I was really pissed 1618 01:30:41,429 --> 01:30:43,829 because all of a sudden, I started getting all the emails 1619 01:30:43,829 --> 01:30:46,709 from people saying, Hey, man, hey, Ron, Paul, and Ron, your 1620 01:30:46,709 --> 01:30:49,619 big announcement, and they had some heat go and everyone was 1621 01:30:49,619 --> 01:30:52,259 talking about it. Everyone was blogging about it. And yeah, we 1622 01:30:52,259 --> 01:30:55,529 blogged it. Yeah. And then and then it's like Brown, it just 1623 01:30:55,529 --> 01:30:58,529 kind of dies. And you know, there's no no coverage, no, 1624 01:30:58,529 --> 01:31:03,389 nothing. And I'm looking now on campaign for liberty.com. I 1625 01:31:03,389 --> 01:31:09,269 think that he endorsed the was either the libertarian 1626 01:31:09,810 --> 01:31:11,670 would have to be the libertarian, who else would be 1627 01:31:12,060 --> 01:31:15,900 the Constitution Party. Oh, I guess there's another one. Yeah, 1628 01:31:15,900 --> 01:31:19,230 there's actually about three fringe groups that are running 1629 01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:19,680 this is 1630 01:31:19,710 --> 01:31:24,150 this is thing that our foreign listeners probably don't realise 1631 01:31:24,390 --> 01:31:28,440 is that America is not just a to effectively it is, of course, a 1632 01:31:28,500 --> 01:31:32,790 two party system. But it's not that, you know, anyone can stand 1633 01:31:32,790 --> 01:31:36,030 up and run for president. And you don't even have to be a 1634 01:31:36,030 --> 01:31:39,660 member of a party. And there are plenty of people that put 1635 01:31:39,660 --> 01:31:41,730 themselves on the ticket. The problem is, of course, they 1636 01:31:41,730 --> 01:31:44,460 don't get invited to the debates. And so if you're not in 1637 01:31:44,460 --> 01:31:46,860 television, and you don't have the budget for television, then 1638 01:31:46,860 --> 01:31:50,790 you don't become president, nor do you become Maj. Selling 1639 01:31:50,820 --> 01:31:56,490 Palmolive. That's just the way it works. Yeah, they don't even 1640 01:31:56,490 --> 01:31:58,800 have it on their on their website. What the hell is 1641 01:31:59,099 --> 01:32:04,469 bars the guy that's running? Right. And Chuck Baldwin, that's 1642 01:32:04,469 --> 01:32:07,769 libertarian guy. He knows Joe Baldwin is the Constitution 1643 01:32:07,769 --> 01:32:09,599 Party and bars deliberately. So I 1644 01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:13,170 think Ron Paul endorsed both of them. Is that the story? 1645 01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,680 I didn't know I did. I never got the follow up to this story. I 1646 01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:20,160 just blogged the first part of it, which was on the ninth and 1647 01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,850 then I never heard anything else and never bothered checking. You 1648 01:32:23,850 --> 01:32:26,670 know, I thought it would show up in the VA on the radar never 1649 01:32:26,670 --> 01:32:27,090 did. 1650 01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:30,120 That's frustrating. 1651 01:32:31,650 --> 01:32:34,980 Well, how did you do a Google and Ryan bar and or Bob bar and 1652 01:32:35,100 --> 01:32:35,850 Ron Paul? 1653 01:32:36,179 --> 01:32:40,259 Yeah. So I have a divider. Not a uniter that American chronicle 1654 01:32:40,259 --> 01:32:44,519 is the top hit Give me a break. Singh wasn't covering. Oh, I 1655 01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:48,060 see bought Oh, no. And the chance of a bar as Ron Paul to 1656 01:32:48,060 --> 01:32:48,990 be his running mate. 1657 01:32:49,020 --> 01:32:52,200 Right. But didn't he decline? Well, what Yeah, well, he 1658 01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,720 said in advance, long time ago that he wasn't going to do 1659 01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,410 anything that would. He wasn't gonna do anything if he couldn't 1660 01:32:58,410 --> 01:33:00,510 get the nomination as a Republican. I mean, he made a 1661 01:33:00,510 --> 01:33:01,230 point of that. 1662 01:33:01,470 --> 01:33:04,770 Oh, what's this? Now I'm seeing Bob Barr pulled out of a press 1663 01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,560 conference, Paul's campaign for Liberty held the National Press 1664 01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:09,840 Club in DC, which included independent presidential 1665 01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:13,380 candidate Ralph Nader. Green Party candidate Cynthia 1666 01:33:13,380 --> 01:33:16,320 McKinney. Oh, that's right. And concept Constitution Party 1667 01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:20,130 candidate, Chuck Baldwin. So I guess what Ron Paul was was 1668 01:33:20,130 --> 01:33:22,620 doing was saying, Hey, here's some alternatives that you can 1669 01:33:22,620 --> 01:33:25,590 also vote for Cynthia McKinney, by the way very interesting. 1670 01:33:26,370 --> 01:33:31,680 Story, you know about her? No. Oh my gosh. She there's a 1671 01:33:31,710 --> 01:33:35,160 there's an there's a whole documentary movie about her. 1672 01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:37,230 I'll send you a link. I can't remember the name of it is right 1673 01:33:37,230 --> 01:33:42,570 now. But she is she's quite a history of changing politics in 1674 01:33:42,570 --> 01:33:47,370 the United States. She's black senator. Black female. So 1675 01:33:47,370 --> 01:33:50,400 I've seen her yeah, not you mentioned it just because she's 1676 01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:50,880 to handle 1677 01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:56,280 a very sharp. Well, extremely, and Ralph Nader. He's he I heard 1678 01:33:56,280 --> 01:34:00,600 him on the Alex Jones Show the other day. He's now become a 1679 01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:05,550 truther. How about them apples? 1680 01:34:06,180 --> 01:34:08,910 Well, the truth of the thing has got you know, the problem is, is 1681 01:34:08,910 --> 01:34:12,090 that you here's the problem that I don't know what I mean. I'm 1682 01:34:12,090 --> 01:34:14,280 almost thinking that the government is encouraged 1683 01:34:14,310 --> 01:34:18,420 encouraging this, the truthers because they refused to release 1684 01:34:18,420 --> 01:34:21,270 the videotape from the gas station showing the plane 1685 01:34:21,270 --> 01:34:23,190 crashing into the Pentagon. Why? 1686 01:34:23,670 --> 01:34:27,600 Because, because it wasn't a plane because it wasn't a plane 1687 01:34:27,660 --> 01:34:30,720 John, it was a missile, dauntless whatever they listen 1688 01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:34,170 to this, listen to me for all this crap. Don't don't know 1689 01:34:34,170 --> 01:34:38,280 about the flight data recorder. You don't know about that. All 1690 01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:41,820 right, tell me about it. Okay, the flight data recorder. This 1691 01:34:41,820 --> 01:34:46,020 is from pilots for 911 truth.ca.org and I'm a 1692 01:34:46,020 --> 01:34:48,300 member of that because I act that's the one thing I actually 1693 01:34:48,300 --> 01:34:52,200 know something about us about flying. And so the NTSB finally 1694 01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:59,190 released the the black box data. And first of all, it shows a 1695 01:34:59,190 --> 01:35:04,110 trajectory this This 757 made, which is any professional pilot, 1696 01:35:04,110 --> 01:35:07,170 and many of them have said impossible to do. You can't pull 1697 01:35:07,170 --> 01:35:10,950 that manoeuvre off with that type of aircraft, which is a 330 1698 01:35:10,950 --> 01:35:15,270 degree turn. But also the altimeter settings because you 1699 01:35:15,270 --> 01:35:17,880 know, we know the atmospheric conditions for each day. That's 1700 01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:20,880 history, right? It's written down, and the way the alternate 1701 01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:24,570 altimeter was set and the data that the doctor data the NTSB 1702 01:35:24,570 --> 01:35:28,860 sent shows that the plane actually overflew the Pentagon 1703 01:35:28,860 --> 01:35:33,780 by about 480 feet as it dropped the motherfucking missile and 1704 01:35:33,780 --> 01:35:38,280 flew off, which I witnesses have also said they saw happen, so 1705 01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,620 there was no plane. That's why they don't release that footage 1706 01:35:40,620 --> 01:35:44,760 because it was and by the way, it happened to be on a piece of 1707 01:35:44,790 --> 01:35:48,390 a side of the Pentagon that was under construction that had just 1708 01:35:48,390 --> 01:35:52,350 been fortified. It was the exact opposite side of the building is 1709 01:35:52,350 --> 01:35:54,930 where any of the heavyweights sat. And by the way, if you're 1710 01:35:54,930 --> 01:35:57,150 going to crash a plane and kill someone in the Pentagon hit the 1711 01:35:57,150 --> 01:36:01,230 frickin roof. Why try and skim along the ground, which is 1712 01:36:01,260 --> 01:36:05,340 virtually impossible to do skim along the ground for a hundreds 1713 01:36:05,340 --> 01:36:08,700 of feet to hit right into the side. I mean, no, this was a 1714 01:36:08,700 --> 01:36:11,580 missile that was sent by a that was shot off by a plane that 1715 01:36:11,580 --> 01:36:15,630 overflew and left it's a standard manoeuvre. And that's 1716 01:36:15,630 --> 01:36:19,170 from the data. This data by the way, the black box rebooted 1717 01:36:19,170 --> 01:36:25,740 itself 20 times in in this 45 minute flight. That's at least 1718 01:36:25,740 --> 01:36:30,030 that's the data that NTSB sent back to the pilots for 1719 01:36:30,030 --> 01:36:35,310 911 truth.org. That does not either that doesn't happen. Or 1720 01:36:35,370 --> 01:36:38,010 it would the plane would never take off. These black boxes are 1721 01:36:38,010 --> 01:36:40,440 checked before they leave this regular routine checks, 1722 01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:44,460 rebooting 20 times in a short flight now it wasn't rebooted 1723 01:36:44,460 --> 01:36:49,590 was Dr. Data, doctored poorly. Experts have corroborated this. 1724 01:36:50,730 --> 01:36:52,560 And that's why they're not going to release the footage. 1725 01:36:53,250 --> 01:36:56,640 nevermind the fact that there's not a single shred of passenger 1726 01:36:56,970 --> 01:37:00,720 or luggage. I love flight 93 By the way, that's my favourite, 1727 01:37:01,170 --> 01:37:04,350 the plane that board itself into the ground in Pennsylvania. And 1728 01:37:04,350 --> 01:37:07,500 they found nothing except a passport and a bandana belonging 1729 01:37:07,500 --> 01:37:11,010 to the five foot hijacker who hijacked this aeroplane with a 1730 01:37:11,010 --> 01:37:16,050 box cutter nothing is found nothing but the bandana and the 1731 01:37:16,050 --> 01:37:16,740 passport. 1732 01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:19,260 Just like Muhammad truther, right. 1733 01:37:21,090 --> 01:37:23,550 Oh, no, I've never had that. I've always been a truther. 1734 01:37:24,210 --> 01:37:27,810 So So here's the thing that the the some of the other aspects 1735 01:37:27,810 --> 01:37:30,390 that are kind of interesting. I mean, besides that the plane 1736 01:37:30,390 --> 01:37:37,170 crash in Pennsylvania. There's a if the guy have seen it a 1737 01:37:37,170 --> 01:37:41,460 fighter plane, did a low pass over the Pentagon and dropped a 1738 01:37:41,460 --> 01:37:44,820 missile or sent a little Stinger into that or whatever they sent. 1739 01:37:44,820 --> 01:37:48,540 It was obviously some big site. I don't know, boom, they blow it 1740 01:37:48,540 --> 01:37:52,770 up with a cruise missile. Perhaps I don't know. Why didn't 1741 01:37:52,770 --> 01:37:54,360 you use a cruise missile instead of this fighter is another 1742 01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:59,220 question. But I would suspect that the glider pilot if there 1743 01:37:59,220 --> 01:38:00,990 was a fighter pilot, and the whole thing wasn't just a 1744 01:38:00,990 --> 01:38:03,660 missile from the beginning sent from someplace else, which would 1745 01:38:03,660 --> 01:38:08,160 make more sense to me. The fighter pilot I think life would 1746 01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:08,940 be in jeopardy. 1747 01:38:12,750 --> 01:38:16,620 Well, yeah, who says the guy is still alive? You don't know 1748 01:38:16,620 --> 01:38:19,800 that? I'm just saying more important is what happened to 1749 01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:21,180 the people on flight 93? 1750 01:38:21,930 --> 01:38:25,170 Well, you know that if you there was 177, or whatever it 1751 01:38:25,170 --> 01:38:28,890 was, listen to this. I want you to listen to this audio clip or 1752 01:38:28,890 --> 01:38:32,700 this video clip of Donald Rumsfeld. You've probably heard 1753 01:38:32,700 --> 01:38:36,690 this one before. It's a Freudian slip as he's getting a news. 1754 01:38:37,260 --> 01:38:43,350 If we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who 1755 01:38:43,350 --> 01:38:46,980 bombed the best home and most are the people who did the 1756 01:38:46,980 --> 01:38:50,700 bombing in Spain, are the people who attack the United States in 1757 01:38:50,700 --> 01:38:54,060 New York. Shut down the plane over Pennsylvania. 1758 01:38:55,410 --> 01:38:59,190 Did you hear that? shot down the plane in Pennsylvania that 1759 01:38:59,190 --> 01:39:01,890 Donald Rumsfeld Freudian slip, come on. 1760 01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:09,540 Yeah, no, that's good. Yeah. So I think they'd find some of the 1761 01:39:09,540 --> 01:39:12,630 bodies or something but not no, there was the other report that 1762 01:39:12,630 --> 01:39:15,720 the plane never never laid out. That whole thing was rigged up 1763 01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:18,450 and they landed someplace they took all the people off and did 1764 01:39:18,450 --> 01:39:21,150 of course, they're probably in a in Gitmo. I mean, who knows, I 1765 01:39:21,150 --> 01:39:21,900 actually followed 1766 01:39:21,900 --> 01:39:24,930 this whole 93 story about who owned that land. There was a big 1767 01:39:24,930 --> 01:39:28,680 dispute about the memorial. And I did follow that trail for a 1768 01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:31,440 while I got bored with it. But there's there's a lot of 1769 01:39:31,440 --> 01:39:34,560 weirdness going on with the ownership of that of the land 1770 01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:38,820 that were crashed and then next to it, you know, there was the 1771 01:39:38,820 --> 01:39:41,250 people want to build a memorial and there's all kinds of stuff 1772 01:39:41,250 --> 01:39:43,380 going on with that. That's That's weird. I think we do. 1773 01:39:43,410 --> 01:39:48,120 It's that and world trend, the World Trade Centre building 1774 01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:53,130 number seven, those two really looking into that investigating. 1775 01:39:53,340 --> 01:39:56,100 Those are the ones that really what I said now, right, you 1776 01:39:56,100 --> 01:39:59,970 know, we certainly need a brand new full investigation. 1777 01:40:01,079 --> 01:40:03,689 Hey, oh, well, whatever the case, I think you might as well 1778 01:40:03,689 --> 01:40:06,659 take the whole thing back to TWA Flight 800. That I think 1779 01:40:07,079 --> 01:40:08,669 you probably could probably 1780 01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:13,830 because that's still a suspicious because they're still 1781 01:40:13,830 --> 01:40:16,560 have their disguise reports and nobody ever talked to me because 1782 01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,720 they didn't do a very thorough investigation of asking the 1783 01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:21,360 eyewitnesses anything, they just made their report that it was 1784 01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,630 this tank blew up, and then they still have I guess the model of 1785 01:40:24,630 --> 01:40:27,270 the thing someplace, they have all the pieces, and some 1786 01:40:27,270 --> 01:40:31,020 warehouse and they I guess they're still looking it over. 1787 01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:34,620 But to tell you, John, yeah, I'm definitely a truther I've just, 1788 01:40:34,650 --> 01:40:37,890 I've just heard too many really smart people look at this from 1789 01:40:37,890 --> 01:40:41,850 too many different angles. And, and the thing is, you know, I'm 1790 01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:45,630 I just turned 44. And I really have come to the realisation 1791 01:40:45,630 --> 01:40:48,660 that and this of course, is is the big things, the big 1792 01:40:48,690 --> 01:40:51,630 awakening, the big Oh, wow moment is when everything that 1793 01:40:51,630 --> 01:40:55,320 you've been taught from from a small child, that there actually 1794 01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:59,790 is very true evil in the world. And there are people who are 1795 01:40:59,790 --> 01:41:05,310 just evil and will do evil things. So I you know, and that, 1796 01:41:05,340 --> 01:41:06,090 that. 1797 01:41:08,610 --> 01:41:10,590 So you'd put Rumsfeld in that group. 1798 01:41:12,060 --> 01:41:15,840 Yeah, I think he'd be close to the top of the list. Now, but 1799 01:41:16,170 --> 01:41:19,680 they, they're just evil, evil people. And I've had a couple I 1800 01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:22,590 remember when I first got into business, you know, because I'd 1801 01:41:22,590 --> 01:41:25,800 been working in entertainment, wishing you get like a check, 1802 01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,380 but never really ran my own company. We had our own company. 1803 01:41:28,380 --> 01:41:30,870 And, you know, there were people who would come in who seemed 1804 01:41:30,870 --> 01:41:34,560 like the most credible and they were credible, and they just 1805 01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:38,520 fuck you. People will just fuck you. I mean, for money for any 1806 01:41:38,550 --> 01:41:41,760 for money, they will do anything they want anything. They will 1807 01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:47,520 lie and cheat and fuck you. And so this this evil is out there. 1808 01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:51,420 Yeah, no, I would have to say that. You could pretty much 1809 01:41:51,420 --> 01:41:56,010 query me on anything about in regards to 911. And I could 1810 01:41:56,010 --> 01:41:58,170 probably answer it. 1811 01:42:01,950 --> 01:42:02,700 Okay, well, 1812 01:42:04,410 --> 01:42:07,230 like, Fuck no, I'm not going to ask this guy anything. 1813 01:42:09,480 --> 01:42:11,490 I'm sure that there'll be some questions coming in. 1814 01:42:12,510 --> 01:42:15,870 The latest thing that was in the paper was I love this one. 1815 01:42:16,410 --> 01:42:19,500 Because, you know, of course, the NIS t, which is, it's a 1816 01:42:19,500 --> 01:42:22,290 bush, it's part of the administration is like some, you 1817 01:42:22,290 --> 01:42:26,610 know, it's an organisation that he chooses, he puts together. So 1818 01:42:26,610 --> 01:42:30,480 they came out with their building seven report, which of 1819 01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:34,680 course, was laughable. But they had to go a little bit further. 1820 01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:37,200 And I think it was, it was yesterday, there was saying that 1821 01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:41,760 the reason why the steel melted in the world in the first time 1822 01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:44,580 in history, and they actually say this is an unprecedented 1823 01:42:44,580 --> 01:42:46,980 event. This has never happened before. It's amazing what 1824 01:42:46,980 --> 01:42:50,040 happened, John, you won't believe it. The actual magnetic 1825 01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:54,570 structure of the steel in these buildings was somehow modified 1826 01:42:54,570 --> 01:42:57,450 probably due to age or something else wrote and weather 1827 01:42:57,450 --> 01:43:02,070 conditions may vary. Again, seriously, no, no, no, this is 1828 01:43:02,070 --> 01:43:04,110 coming from the government. No, no, no, no, this come from the 1829 01:43:04,110 --> 01:43:07,620 government. Dude, listen to me. This is not for me. This is the 1830 01:43:07,620 --> 01:43:11,160 ridiculous lengths they're going to to cover this up by saying, 1831 01:43:12,210 --> 01:43:15,390 Well, normally of course jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to 1832 01:43:15,390 --> 01:43:18,570 melt steel. But these steel beams something had happened 1833 01:43:18,570 --> 01:43:21,540 magnet This is the government saying something happened to the 1834 01:43:21,540 --> 01:43:24,540 magnetically and they were sufficiently weakened. So they 1835 01:43:24,540 --> 01:43:28,530 were able to start melting at 500 degrees. Is the government 1836 01:43:28,530 --> 01:43:29,490 now saying this? 1837 01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:33,930 Now that's ridiculous. To new Mercury alloy. 1838 01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:37,920 It's ridiculous. It's frickin stupid and it's insulting. 1839 01:43:41,250 --> 01:43:45,000 Well, I think that leaves us hanging. 1840 01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:48,270 Yeah. Anyway, your home your homework, John, as you should 1841 01:43:48,270 --> 01:43:53,070 go. Look at Rosie O'Donnell's weblog. You laugh. You laugh. I 1842 01:43:53,070 --> 01:43:55,890 know Rosie and I have known her for a long time. Actually. I got 1843 01:43:55,890 --> 01:43:57,960 her her first gig on VH one, 1844 01:43:58,440 --> 01:44:00,960 give me the summation and I go look at it. 1845 01:44:01,110 --> 01:44:06,090 She has a guy on whose name is William Rodriguez. Wilmer gigas 1846 01:44:06,090 --> 01:44:09,510 was caretaker of I don't know which Tower One of the two 1847 01:44:09,510 --> 01:44:13,530 towers and his office was on sublevel. One there were six 1848 01:44:13,530 --> 01:44:17,790 levels. So he was on the highest level of the sub levels. And 1849 01:44:17,790 --> 01:44:21,660 before the plane hit the building. There were multiple 1850 01:44:21,660 --> 01:44:23,550 explosions in the basement. 1851 01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,490 Yeah, I know that this has been documented by a bunch of people 1852 01:44:26,490 --> 01:44:28,200 that heard multiple explosions, right? 1853 01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:31,470 But it's not in the official conspiracy theory known as the 1854 01:44:31,470 --> 01:44:35,760 911 report. That they they interviewed him they didn't 1855 01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:39,120 write anything. He gave him like 15 Other names to talk to one 1856 01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:43,050 guy who was one level below him who his job was to restock the 1857 01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:46,530 vending machines. He all the skin was burned off from the 1858 01:44:46,530 --> 01:44:49,350 explosion. He lived but he came up actually, I don't know if he 1859 01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:52,590 lived or not. But he came up with a skin hanging off and 1860 01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:56,730 there's tonnes and tonnes of eyewitness accounts of this and 1861 01:44:56,730 --> 01:45:00,960 there's all this. It's all over the place. It's On high double, 1862 01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:06,600 you know, and that's okay. So maybe that's my conspiracy, the 1863 01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:09,810 alternative conspiracy theory, but the 911 Commission Report, 1864 01:45:09,810 --> 01:45:11,910 which I have right here on my bookcase doesn't mention 1865 01:45:11,940 --> 01:45:16,200 anything about that. Not not even, you know the mention of 1866 01:45:16,230 --> 01:45:22,290 you know, some people thought nothing I can I can hear you 1867 01:45:22,290 --> 01:45:24,750 sliding over to my side of the fence. It's 1868 01:45:26,190 --> 01:45:29,730 what's interesting about this is that if, let's assume that the 1869 01:45:29,730 --> 01:45:32,730 older truthers were right, and this was a neuron, what's the 1870 01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,310 wood they burnt down the righteous dog, I think in 1871 01:45:35,310 --> 01:45:35,700 Germany, 1872 01:45:35,969 --> 01:45:38,669 he wants to call it Pearl Harbour, the new Pearl Harbour. 1873 01:45:39,570 --> 01:45:42,390 So you get so he gets everybody all jacked up on what, you know, 1874 01:45:42,390 --> 01:45:47,220 in one way or another. The thing because it's such a ridiculous 1875 01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:50,640 event, you know, to drop these two buildings that are just in 1876 01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:53,520 the middle of town, and they're one of the biggest buildings in 1877 01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:56,310 the world. And it took a lot of effort and planning obviously, 1878 01:45:56,310 --> 01:46:01,560 to make this work if all if the truthers are, right. It's, it's 1879 01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:05,880 like, it's almost like saying, Look, I wonder how outrageous we 1880 01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:09,630 can get with the American public to see how you know, before they 1881 01:46:09,630 --> 01:46:13,560 realise that they're just being suckered left and right. It's 1882 01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:17,070 just that you know, that concept. It's somebody that a 1883 01:46:17,070 --> 01:46:21,390 group of people that say, you know, whoever the foreign 1884 01:46:21,390 --> 01:46:24,450 relations crowd or whatever you want to whatever they are the 1885 01:46:24,930 --> 01:46:25,740 Council of Foreign 1886 01:46:25,740 --> 01:46:29,130 Relations. Yes. You know, which includes Obama, the Trilateral 1887 01:46:29,130 --> 01:46:30,120 Commission. Yes. 1888 01:46:30,150 --> 01:46:32,460 Yeah. All these crazy things I remember read about this stuff 1889 01:46:32,460 --> 01:46:33,990 in the 60s. It's 1890 01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:37,350 because that's what it started. That's what was your duty, you 1891 01:46:37,350 --> 01:46:40,140 are on duty, John C. Dvorak, you should have stopped that shit, 1892 01:46:40,140 --> 01:46:41,670 then you let it slide. 1893 01:46:43,590 --> 01:46:48,930 I was buffaloed. Anyway, so it's just nice. Like, we gave me this 1894 01:46:48,930 --> 01:46:52,560 almost like a comedy act at this level, if what you're saying is 1895 01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:55,320 true, because it's almost like saying, what that how dumb are 1896 01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:58,560 these people? Let's, let's, you know, do this. And let's do 1897 01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:00,480 that. I mean, it's almost to the point where you can almost 1898 01:47:00,540 --> 01:47:04,350 suspect Obama himself as part of the whole grand scheme. Thank 1899 01:47:04,350 --> 01:47:08,130 you. Finally, it's like let's, let's see if we can get a black 1900 01:47:08,130 --> 01:47:11,190 guy in. Oh, we can get a black man elected president. I think 1901 01:47:11,190 --> 01:47:13,020 we can do that. Well, okay. Well, let's change a little bit. 1902 01:47:13,020 --> 01:47:15,390 Let's make it black. It was a ridiculous name. 1903 01:47:15,420 --> 01:47:19,110 Yes, exactly. And just to fuck with everyone will make his 1904 01:47:19,110 --> 01:47:22,920 middle name Hussein. Just a mess with everyone. John, you know 1905 01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:27,120 what, I'm so happy to hear this. You are finally seeing the light 1906 01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:30,060 my brother you are waking up. You're finally seeing what you 1907 01:47:30,060 --> 01:47:33,210 know what, you know why? They absolutely thought and because 1908 01:47:33,210 --> 01:47:37,830 they had all the media in their pocket. They have radio, 1909 01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:41,880 newspapers, books, television, primarily. They've you know, 1910 01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:44,940 television is a hypnotic medium. I've been in it long enough to 1911 01:47:44,940 --> 01:47:48,120 know how it works. You can absolutely bullshit anything you 1912 01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:50,580 want for any reason people will buy it because it's on 1913 01:47:50,580 --> 01:47:53,670 television, they still think it's true. But what they didn't 1914 01:47:53,670 --> 01:47:56,610 understand. And most of these guys, you know, they might have 1915 01:47:56,610 --> 01:47:59,400 a Blackberry, which is simple enough for them to understand 1916 01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:02,310 what they do not understand the internet, they do not they were 1917 01:48:02,310 --> 01:48:06,600 not a part of this taking place. And this is what's happened. All 1918 01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:09,630 of this collective knowledge. Just look at Google, you type in 1919 01:48:09,780 --> 01:48:13,980 Rumsfeld plane shot down. And within three seconds, I've got 1920 01:48:14,010 --> 01:48:17,070 you know, this video of him, which is really not doctored 1921 01:48:17,070 --> 01:48:21,420 video of Rumsfeld talking about the plane in Pennsylvania being 1922 01:48:21,420 --> 01:48:24,960 shot down this collective information that we have at our 1923 01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:28,620 fingertips, which is, of course the next thing to go, you know, 1924 01:48:28,650 --> 01:48:31,590 they're now realising Oh, shit, you know, more and more people 1925 01:48:31,590 --> 01:48:34,470 are jacking into this. And they're starting to catch on. 1926 01:48:34,770 --> 01:48:37,410 And that's where they made the mistake, because absolutely 1927 01:48:37,410 --> 01:48:41,340 zigzoo Brzezinski, who was Obama's advisor on foreign 1928 01:48:41,700 --> 01:48:46,770 foreign affairs, read his book, John read his book, his I'll 1929 01:48:46,770 --> 01:48:50,280 look at the title for a second. It he outlines all of this 1930 01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:56,280 stuff, all of it. And these guys are huge on, on on on the 1931 01:48:56,280 --> 01:49:00,570 Georgia thing. Yes, it's orchestrated. Absolutely. And I 1932 01:49:00,570 --> 01:49:02,880 totally believe they went out and look for the Manchurian 1933 01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:07,470 Candidate. Absolutely. Now they play both sides of the fence 1934 01:49:07,470 --> 01:49:10,200 because they've also got McCain. And it's the same people they 1935 01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:11,400 don't give us You can't lose 1936 01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:15,240 it by your theory. There's a no lose situation, either one of 1937 01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:17,400 these two guys gets in. Yes. Yeah. 1938 01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:21,480 Absolutely. If they win, no matter what, and they're saying 1939 01:49:21,480 --> 01:49:24,810 the same things. You know, and right now all this was so 1940 01:49:24,810 --> 01:49:27,660 beautiful, man, I talked about this on a daily source code. So 1941 01:49:28,050 --> 01:49:32,760 huge and turn offs have been spotted in Afghanistan. And 1942 01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:36,330 these are Ukrainian registered and two nos, which of course, it 1943 01:49:36,330 --> 01:49:36,570 means. 1944 01:49:37,020 --> 01:49:40,410 Monster plans got like eight engines and a million tires. 1945 01:49:40,440 --> 01:49:42,630 Yeah. And that. So these are coming from the Ukraine, the 1946 01:49:42,630 --> 01:49:45,720 place that Vice President Dick Cheney visited during the 1947 01:49:45,750 --> 01:49:49,680 Republican National Convention under the cover of all that 1948 01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:55,980 hoopla. And they're unloading tanks, John tanks. Now, let me 1949 01:49:55,980 --> 01:49:59,490 ask you, because you are a man of the world. What will you do 1950 01:49:59,490 --> 01:50:07,470 with 10 tanks in Afghanistan. I don't know nothing, because the 1951 01:50:07,470 --> 01:50:10,380 Russians already proved that the tanks are ineffective in that 1952 01:50:10,380 --> 01:50:14,400 mountainous terrain. They're unusable. However, the road to 1953 01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:21,690 Iran is right there. And Iran is completely perfect for tanks. So 1954 01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:24,630 so this whole thing of all let's move the troops out of Iraq, 1955 01:50:24,630 --> 01:50:26,580 they gotta go to Afghanistan. They're all going to 1956 01:50:26,580 --> 01:50:28,710 Afghanistan, because that's the ground force that's going to 1957 01:50:28,710 --> 01:50:30,030 enter into Iran. 1958 01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:35,070 Wow, that's a good one. I haven't. I haven't heard that 1959 01:50:35,070 --> 01:50:39,210 one. That's not bad. I like that. So who says this? Is that 1960 01:50:39,210 --> 01:50:39,900 your theory? 1961 01:50:39,930 --> 01:50:43,530 No, no, this is from, you know, there's pictures. There's not 1962 01:50:43,530 --> 01:50:46,290 mazes your theory about they're moving to Afghanistan. I mean, 1963 01:50:46,290 --> 01:50:49,350 guys, I never thought of the two step process where Obama wants 1964 01:50:49,350 --> 01:50:53,040 to move all the troops to Afghanistan. And so then you say 1965 01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:53,670 so they both 1966 01:50:53,670 --> 01:50:55,980 to Iran, they both do. They both are? That's the whole that's 1967 01:50:56,010 --> 01:50:57,210 this is how this is how 1968 01:50:57,390 --> 01:50:59,820 they both do, but whose theory is that we're moving stuff 1969 01:50:59,820 --> 01:51:02,070 through Afghanistan, so we can invade Iraq. 1970 01:51:02,100 --> 01:51:04,560 I can't say I'm sure lots of people have seen this because 1971 01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:07,650 you open up Google Earth and you look at the frickin geometry, 1972 01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:11,130 geography of it all. And you say, Okay, I see where Georgia 1973 01:51:11,130 --> 01:51:14,250 is. I see where Ukraine is. I see where Afghanistan is. Oh, 1974 01:51:14,940 --> 01:51:17,700 isn't that interesting? Now I know the tanks don't work in the 1975 01:51:17,700 --> 01:51:21,120 mountains. I know that. This is well known. 1976 01:51:21,150 --> 01:51:23,640 All right. Okay. Okay. Now what? So what's Brzezinski his book? 1977 01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:24,840 I'll read it over the weekend. 1978 01:51:26,550 --> 01:51:32,460 You'll love this book. Hold on a second. Presents ease book. 1979 01:51:33,510 --> 01:51:36,240 Don't you just love this collective? Here we go. 1980 01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:43,320 case book. Is Google. Do you want to shut down this thing, 1981 01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:45,090 folks? Just shut down Google. 1982 01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:49,320 That's true. I'm really worried about Google. I am very worried 1983 01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:53,220 about it. I'm worried about you know who's in charge over there. 1984 01:51:53,790 --> 01:51:56,430 Let's be honest. Eric Schmidt looks pretty scary. 1985 01:51:58,380 --> 01:52:00,780 Well, he was with Sun Microsystems for a long time. 1986 01:52:00,780 --> 01:52:03,900 And there's a lot of connection between Sun Microsystems and the 1987 01:52:03,900 --> 01:52:04,710 agency. 1988 01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:09,900 Yeah, that makes sense, doesn't it? The grand chessboard is what 1989 01:52:09,900 --> 01:52:15,000 it's called America's primacy is a premise here primacy. Famously 1990 01:52:16,350 --> 01:52:19,770 Mr. MC I think the best they can get away with it. 1991 01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:23,820 America's primacy and his geo strategic imperatives read this 1992 01:52:23,820 --> 01:52:28,140 book. All right, read this book. Everything that is happening now 1993 01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:31,710 or is being proposed is described in this book. Okay, 1994 01:52:31,710 --> 01:52:34,770 how to get it and read it this week. And this guy is in cahoots 1995 01:52:34,770 --> 01:52:37,920 with Soros that you know, so this is where all this money is 1996 01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:40,620 coming from Obama's like a billion dollar campaign at this 1997 01:52:40,620 --> 01:52:48,330 point. is huge money huge. John, I love it. Wow, love that sound. 1998 01:52:48,330 --> 01:52:51,030 I love that. I'm gonna let's stop the show right here. 1999 01:52:51,330 --> 01:52:54,810 Because the sound of silence No, no, it's not the sound of 2000 01:52:54,810 --> 01:52:57,510 silence. It's got me stumped again ladies and gentlemen. It's 2001 01:52:57,510 --> 01:53:04,920 the sound of you actually going hey, wait a minute. This crazy 2002 01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:09,840 guy oh my goodness, there might be something to all of this loss 2003 01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:10,860 more where that came from? 2004 01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:14,280 Yeah, remember no one's done a lot of it next week. I'm 2005 01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:17,820 I'm open. And we didn't talk about it. But I hope people are 2006 01:53:17,820 --> 01:53:18,840 okay in Texas. 2007 01:53:20,190 --> 01:53:23,100 That storm is really a whopper Yeah, that's massive. And of 2008 01:53:23,100 --> 01:53:28,140 course, it gets coverage but not the same type of urgency. As 2009 01:53:28,170 --> 01:53:29,190 Gustaf got. 2010 01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:33,270 Now Gustaf got more because of the new app nor New Orleans and 2011 01:53:33,270 --> 01:53:35,160 in fact, it was during a convention that gave him an 2012 01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:43,470 excuse to send Cheney to the Ukraine, Ukraine. So the 2013 01:53:43,470 --> 01:53:46,110 interesting thing about this I mean this thing is this storm 2014 01:53:46,110 --> 01:53:49,080 thing is like taking up the whole Gulf of Mexico and it's 2015 01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:51,120 kind of as it comes into it but the thing that always gets me 2016 01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:53,610 about these storms is they you go to CNN or any of these 2017 01:53:53,610 --> 01:53:56,220 stations and they got these guys in the store and 2018 01:53:56,220 --> 01:53:59,160 Geraldo Rivera is Geraldo Rivera is the funniest if you've seen 2019 01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:04,740 him like a piece of the pier popped up and hit him in the leg 2020 01:54:04,740 --> 01:54:08,460 it was hilarious like yeah, this is great. This is television 2021 01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:15,750 crazy Wow, this was one of my I've never ended the show on 2022 01:54:15,750 --> 01:54:16,500 such a high 2023 01:54:18,180 --> 01:54:21,480 Oh, good. I shouldn't get used to it. I'm gonna go watch Cal 2024 01:54:21,480 --> 01:54:22,860 hopefully beat Maryland. 2025 01:54:23,340 --> 01:54:27,030 All right, I'm gonna take my daughter to walk on mama. Okay, 2026 01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:28,740 are you familiar with Walker Mama? 2027 01:54:29,370 --> 01:54:30,720 No, what is Walgett mama 2028 01:54:30,750 --> 01:54:36,840 it's like a fast food Chinese. Vietnamese Thai place kinda 2029 01:54:37,110 --> 01:54:39,690 don't have me here. It's a guy that's an English outfit. They 2030 01:54:39,690 --> 01:54:47,160 get like 50 of them or something it's pretty big. All right one 2031 01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:48,900 of these days you know we're gonna have to actually do a show 2032 01:54:48,900 --> 01:54:51,690 midweek because something astronomic is gonna take place. 2033 01:54:52,260 --> 01:54:55,020 Yeah, we do it so I can gloat to see. 2034 01:54:56,460 --> 01:55:00,450 Well, you haven't had many opportunities. It's 2035 01:55:00,780 --> 01:55:05,190 all right. It's coming to you from Gitmo nation east. My name 2036 01:55:05,190 --> 01:55:05,790 is Adam curry. 2037 01:55:06,569 --> 01:55:09,599 And from getting mo nation West, I'm John C. Dvorak. 2038 01:55:09,630 --> 01:55:12,840 We will talk to you again next week right here. No agenda