1 00:00:01,380 --> 00:00:04,560 Two times in one week, we can go on meeting each other like this. 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,960 Coming to you from the eastern side of the nation, formerly 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,440 known as gizmo nation now abomination in the United 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,820 Kingdom. I'm Adam curry. 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,090 And in northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. 6 00:00:18,900 --> 00:00:23,730 John, how you doing? Good. Two times in a week, man, this is 7 00:00:23,730 --> 00:00:24,240 amazing. 8 00:00:24,570 --> 00:00:26,490 Yeah, we could probably do a daily use. You mentioned that 9 00:00:26,490 --> 00:00:26,820 before. 10 00:00:27,060 --> 00:00:29,280 I was just thinking about that before the show. I'm thinking if 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,470 we just had a phone bridge set up, or just I mean, the whole 12 00:00:31,470 --> 00:00:34,290 problem is just where we are at any given moment, but we should 13 00:00:34,290 --> 00:00:36,300 certainly be able to do something once a day. 14 00:00:36,990 --> 00:00:42,870 Yeah, we should. So it looks like the election, State Senate. 15 00:00:43,620 --> 00:00:46,380 In fact, by the way, state senate district 14 out of 16 00:00:46,380 --> 00:00:48,120 Denver. Okay. 17 00:00:48,119 --> 00:00:49,949 I have not been following this election. 18 00:00:50,460 --> 00:00:53,670 Yeah, they candidate bacon. Beat fries. 19 00:00:53,670 --> 00:00:59,340 Yes, I saw the picture. That was very funny. Bacon beats fries. 20 00:00:59,730 --> 00:01:02,970 Man doesn't get any nuttier than that. Actually. It does. 21 00:01:02,970 --> 00:01:07,890 Actually. I called you yesterday, man. I said, Did you 22 00:01:07,950 --> 00:01:10,980 actually I called you while I was taking place. I wanted to 23 00:01:10,980 --> 00:01:14,400 watch it with you. The first press conference by our 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:15,480 president elect. 25 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,190 Yeah, I got to see some excerpts from it. It's hard to believe it 26 00:01:20,190 --> 00:01:21,360 was a press conference. And 27 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:26,190 no, it wasn't it was a scripted hootenanny. And did you see 28 00:01:26,190 --> 00:01:30,330 Axelrod leaning against the wall the whole time? Campaign? 29 00:01:31,050 --> 00:01:32,070 Yeah. Now, 30 00:01:33,090 --> 00:01:38,010 I'm sorry. Go ahead. He's there to you know, as he's, he'll be 31 00:01:38,010 --> 00:01:41,070 the sergeant at arms and punish anyone who disobeyed. 32 00:01:41,100 --> 00:01:46,440 Exactly. It was like Obama. Guy is so good at reading off of his 33 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,700 his notes. He just glances down. And he's real, real comfortable 34 00:01:50,700 --> 00:01:53,790 with doing it. And I paid a lot of tension to it. And so he did 35 00:01:53,790 --> 00:01:56,640 the whole thing yesterday, I think pretty much just from his 36 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,790 notes, no teleprompter. I didn't see anything. But even when it 37 00:01:59,790 --> 00:02:02,400 came to the questions, you know, he was kind of like, you know, 38 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,250 like the President's like to do Yeah, go ahead, Helen. Yeah. 39 00:02:05,490 --> 00:02:08,280 Troy, you couldn't say something now. But every single time and I 40 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,710 paid specific attention to it. He was looking down his paper. 41 00:02:10,710 --> 00:02:14,160 And one point he even said, let me see who's next here. Yeah, 42 00:02:14,190 --> 00:02:17,490 Bill, your next. And you know, didn't call on any heavyweights? 43 00:02:17,490 --> 00:02:21,870 Like the Washington Times or didn't call on Fox News that was 44 00:02:21,870 --> 00:02:26,460 pointed out? I saw earlier today. It was it was like 45 00:02:26,460 --> 00:02:29,910 scripted questions, scripted answers. And he from time to 46 00:02:29,910 --> 00:02:31,920 time, he would actually look down on his notes. 47 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:35,160 Yeah, it seemed like he was looking down a lot to answer the 48 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,440 question. She said that was peculiar. Of course, the media 49 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,530 didn't call him on this. And you know, it'll give you can get 50 00:02:40,530 --> 00:02:44,070 away with it. Let's say I'm Axelrod and I said, Look, why 51 00:02:44,070 --> 00:02:46,770 don't we just script the whole thing. Only call the people we 52 00:02:46,770 --> 00:02:49,410 want and see what happens. I mean, you can assume that if 53 00:02:49,410 --> 00:02:52,200 George Bush pulled a stunt like this to immediately be all 54 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,870 over it crazy, yelling, they'd be so angry. 55 00:02:55,620 --> 00:02:59,070 Yeah. But now these guys are all in in bed with him. 56 00:03:00,150 --> 00:03:03,900 What? What was pretty funny is that he spent the most time 57 00:03:03,930 --> 00:03:06,540 answering the question about the White House dog. 58 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:12,120 Yeah, you might as well trivialise the whole thing. Some 59 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,640 listen to one of the right wing talk shows in the sky, 60 00:03:15,750 --> 00:03:19,590 Breitbart, who was doing this show for somebody, and who's got 61 00:03:19,590 --> 00:03:22,980 his website, and he got he was proud of the fact that he and I 62 00:03:22,980 --> 00:03:26,580 just thought was hilarious. He got the domain name. I think 63 00:03:26,580 --> 00:03:30,300 it's Barack Obama and 64 00:03:32,100 --> 00:03:32,970 Barack Obama. 65 00:03:34,350 --> 00:03:38,010 Like, because you know, he's always going, you know, he's 66 00:03:38,010 --> 00:03:43,110 saying all the time. So it's now Bama. I do that on to the guy. 67 00:03:43,110 --> 00:03:49,980 No, but you don't have the name. Curry. Adam curry, Adam curry. 68 00:03:51,420 --> 00:03:54,120 From the what I loved about that. I'm looking at the 69 00:03:54,180 --> 00:03:56,640 Financial Times Weekend Edition. I haven't read it yet. But I'm 70 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,100 just looking at the front page, the homepage as we call it. 71 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,310 There we go. We're over a Barack Obama. And there's a picture of 72 00:04:05,340 --> 00:04:09,150 Barack Obama at this press conference yesterday. And I love 73 00:04:09,150 --> 00:04:12,900 the sign the office of the president elect that's just too 74 00:04:12,900 --> 00:04:13,380 funny. 75 00:04:14,610 --> 00:04:15,540 Yeah, no, it's 76 00:04:16,110 --> 00:04:19,860 just it's not there's no real office. Is there known as the 77 00:04:19,860 --> 00:04:25,470 office or elect? That's that's humorous. Little little 78 00:04:25,470 --> 00:04:30,390 presidential seal. Oh, man. What a show what an what an amazing 79 00:04:30,390 --> 00:04:33,060 show. And have you seen these people who are in his transition 80 00:04:33,060 --> 00:04:34,680 team? Did you see these people? 81 00:04:35,580 --> 00:04:39,570 Yeah, they're all a bunch of you know, old style hard political 82 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,240 Hell yeah, they're there that this was supposed to be some 83 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:42,990 change, 84 00:04:43,020 --> 00:04:48,480 you know? And ROM, what's his name? Emmanuelle? This guy? 85 00:04:48,660 --> 00:04:51,720 This guy he's guy looks mean. Ah, 86 00:04:52,230 --> 00:04:54,510 you know, he reminds me of a all only evil. 87 00:04:55,650 --> 00:04:57,930 He does have an evil look. Yeah, it's totally 88 00:04:57,930 --> 00:05:03,210 evil look, and I believe that in them in an Israeli newspaper, 89 00:05:03,210 --> 00:05:05,430 they were saying, Oh, this great, you know, we got our guy 90 00:05:05,430 --> 00:05:09,840 in the white house, because he's Orthodox, I believe. And he 91 00:05:09,870 --> 00:05:14,280 fought in the Israeli forces. Or I don't know if he fought, he 92 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:17,520 served. He quit his job, actually, at one point. And he 93 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,480 was also, interestingly enough, on the board of directors of, 94 00:05:21,690 --> 00:05:25,590 I'm gonna say Fannie Mae in 2000, when there was three years 95 00:05:25,620 --> 00:05:31,260 of humongous scandal about losing trillions of dollars 96 00:05:31,260 --> 00:05:33,660 losing track of trillions of dollars, and this guy has been 97 00:05:33,660 --> 00:05:37,110 around for a while. This is no change. Yeah, it's a change back 98 00:05:37,140 --> 00:05:37,890 to back to 99 00:05:38,820 --> 00:05:40,020 back to the worst 100 00:05:40,050 --> 00:05:44,370 good times. This guy, they call him Rambo. 101 00:05:46,050 --> 00:05:50,610 Yeah, yeah. And he's gonna run things. Oh, yeah. Because isn't 102 00:05:50,610 --> 00:05:53,730 because this is very Nixonian, this, this group is bringing in 103 00:05:53,730 --> 00:05:55,920 his almost like, Give me a minute, we'll be a Republican. 104 00:05:56,310 --> 00:05:59,370 And anyways, we'll be Richard Nixon with these guys. 105 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,590 And look at all that, because this is what we were talking 106 00:06:01,590 --> 00:06:04,800 about on Wednesday. Look at all the names that are popping up 107 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,850 who's going to be Secretary of the Treasury. And they've got 108 00:06:08,850 --> 00:06:11,760 guys who have all been, you know, nothing new. It's all 109 00:06:11,790 --> 00:06:15,450 former Federal Reserve guys fed New York firm, a former Treasury 110 00:06:15,450 --> 00:06:18,240 Secretary, Secretary, they're even talking about the governor 111 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:23,700 of New Jersey who worked as CEO. And guess what, Goldman Sachs. 112 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:28,650 And this is not this is, and this is, here's my, here's my 113 00:06:28,650 --> 00:06:31,920 takeaway. This is a big this is the big cover up moment. While 114 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,560 everyone's living in euphoria, and we're taking our eye off the 115 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,400 ball temporarily. All this shit is taking place. All kinds of 116 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,630 stuff happening right now. 117 00:06:40,620 --> 00:06:47,460 Well, now in in Obama's defence if you remember, when Carter was 118 00:06:47,460 --> 00:06:49,800 a well, you probably don't, because it was, you know, you 119 00:06:49,890 --> 00:06:55,380 can now I don't know, when Carter was elected. He probably 120 00:06:55,380 --> 00:06:59,040 did. I think maybe Clinton when he first started, he did one of 121 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,310 these, you know, let's bring in some outsiders and just see what 122 00:07:02,310 --> 00:07:04,980 we can shake up Washington kind of thing. And they just failed 123 00:07:04,980 --> 00:07:08,400 miserably, because they don't know the ropes. So at least 124 00:07:08,610 --> 00:07:12,450 Obama's not making the mistake of bringing in a bunch of 125 00:07:12,450 --> 00:07:15,450 amateurs that that can be pushed around. Let's face it with this 126 00:07:15,450 --> 00:07:20,340 Rahm Emanuel that he's not going to get pushed around. Except by 127 00:07:20,340 --> 00:07:24,450 the people that they do. They just go off the deep end with 128 00:07:24,450 --> 00:07:28,140 with intimidating people and pushing their way around. But 129 00:07:28,140 --> 00:07:30,720 you know, they may need that against Nancy Pelosi. So I, you 130 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:31,110 know, 131 00:07:32,100 --> 00:07:35,430 the I'm just I'm just a little concerned about what I'm reading 132 00:07:35,430 --> 00:07:38,280 and what I'm hearing and what the what the ideas are, and 133 00:07:41,130 --> 00:07:43,620 yeah, well, the ideas are probably not going to work out. 134 00:07:44,580 --> 00:07:47,280 Thank you. I guess that's what I'm saying. Yeah, the ideas 135 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,680 there, that's not gonna work out. Not gonna be too good. 136 00:07:50,250 --> 00:07:53,160 But a lot of this crap, like the office of the president elect. 137 00:07:54,270 --> 00:07:56,850 Imagery is really getting on my nerves. 138 00:07:57,030 --> 00:08:02,580 I did appreciate the change.gov website. The idea, of course, is 139 00:08:02,610 --> 00:08:06,060 really, really good. It's a fantastic branding exercise 140 00:08:06,060 --> 00:08:10,890 extension of the brand beyond belief. Right? Really, really 141 00:08:10,890 --> 00:08:11,610 smart. 142 00:08:12,150 --> 00:08:14,490 Yeah, as if anyone's going to pay any attention to the 143 00:08:14,670 --> 00:08:18,240 probably, you know, 100 million suggestions they're gonna get 144 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,890 from every dingbat in the country. 145 00:08:20,130 --> 00:08:23,910 Oh, it's gonna be, you know, a very sorry, excuse for for a 146 00:08:23,910 --> 00:08:28,410 feedback mechanism. But, you know, in the, in the guise of 147 00:08:28,650 --> 00:08:31,440 being transparent, it's a good move. I'm actually waiting for 148 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:40,710 hope God gov wins that message, that message coming online. 149 00:08:42,450 --> 00:08:45,210 That'd be a cool site. hope.gov. 150 00:08:45,810 --> 00:08:50,100 So I'm watching Bill Maher, who is turned back into his, you 151 00:08:50,100 --> 00:08:57,000 know, his pre 911 You know, hateful self. It's amazing. He 152 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,670 did. I mean, he like when you know, he got fired from ABC for 153 00:08:59,670 --> 00:09:02,880 going on about calling the Americans cowards. And actually, 154 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,720 he said something different at the time, which I thought it was 155 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,520 so spot on. He said. The terrorists were actually very, 156 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,880 very brave to fly to believe so. 157 00:09:15,570 --> 00:09:16,650 I know what he said. But I 158 00:09:16,650 --> 00:09:19,350 will tell people because it's good to remind of John gimmes. 159 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:19,530 Yeah, 160 00:09:19,530 --> 00:09:23,670 but it was at the moment it wasn't a matter of, of what you 161 00:09:23,670 --> 00:09:31,920 know, his wording it was his intent. Well, we'll have me 162 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,170 because I saw him do it. I watched that show. I watched it, 163 00:09:34,170 --> 00:09:38,220 too. I saw I saw it too. And I had a meet he was extremely mean 164 00:09:38,220 --> 00:09:42,660 spirited about the whole thing. He was angry. And he was angry 165 00:09:42,660 --> 00:09:45,990 at the United States for sending cruise missiles into you know, 166 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,640 you know, Afghanistan or wherever. 167 00:09:47,670 --> 00:09:48,480 And he's right. 168 00:09:49,890 --> 00:09:51,660 I think that's what we shouldn't be doing. 169 00:09:52,230 --> 00:09:55,230 Whenever you think we should be sending cruise missiles into 170 00:09:55,230 --> 00:09:57,240 Afghanistan. At the time 171 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,830 Yeah, absolutely. Dryer glow. I'm not kidding you. What do you 172 00:10:01,830 --> 00:10:03,450 think we're supposed to do walk over there. 173 00:10:03,749 --> 00:10:05,519 But what are we doing over there? Well, they haven't done 174 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:08,639 anything over here. We've we've been over it. We've been through 175 00:10:08,639 --> 00:10:10,979 all their countries a million times. No wonder they're pissed 176 00:10:10,979 --> 00:10:12,869 off if they actually did it. 177 00:10:13,529 --> 00:10:15,809 No, I don't think they did it. But the Taliban was the guys 178 00:10:15,809 --> 00:10:22,139 that were essentially keeping the al Qaeda folks in, in. John, 179 00:10:22,139 --> 00:10:22,349 you know, 180 00:10:22,410 --> 00:10:26,040 I just, I just don't buy it. I don't buy it at all. I read a 181 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,170 lot about the Taliban. I don't read I don't buy what you're 182 00:10:28,170 --> 00:10:31,080 saying right now. I want to keep it occupied on the business 183 00:10:31,110 --> 00:10:34,650 I have. I have no problem taking that side. And on this argument, 184 00:10:35,670 --> 00:10:40,680 we should remember, I remember when the Taliban before 911. We 185 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:45,360 had a story at Tech T or ZD TV, or tech TV or wherever there was 186 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:45,780 at the time, 187 00:10:45,780 --> 00:10:49,290 that's where I turned in for all my worldly news is Tech TV. No, 188 00:10:49,290 --> 00:10:49,800 they were doing 189 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,700 a story. Because they did have a newscast. And they were talking 190 00:10:53,700 --> 00:10:56,850 about this is just after the Taliban blew up all those 191 00:10:57,090 --> 00:11:01,710 Buddhist icons that were carved into the mountains when you 192 00:11:01,710 --> 00:11:04,080 were so offended, it's like, Let's go bomb those people 193 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:04,830 because they blew up. 194 00:11:06,300 --> 00:11:09,600 You wanted me to finish? So and then they you know, they had 195 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,380 banned you know, meanwhile, Omar had banned dancing, he had 196 00:11:13,380 --> 00:11:17,610 banned kite flying. He they were executing women in the soccer 197 00:11:17,610 --> 00:11:21,480 stadium and most of the stuff was pretty well documented. And 198 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:24,990 so there's they were gonna run this story that was kind of 199 00:11:24,990 --> 00:11:28,860 complimentary toward the Taliban. And I talked what to 200 00:11:28,860 --> 00:11:31,200 the news director says you can't do this. And I read them to kind 201 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,270 of, you know, there's this laundry list of shit that these 202 00:11:33,270 --> 00:11:36,000 guys were doing. And you know, like family, I'm thinking 203 00:11:36,030 --> 00:11:39,690 nobody's paying any attention to this stuff. These guys are a 204 00:11:39,690 --> 00:11:44,910 terrible people, generally speaking, and I had absolutely 205 00:11:44,910 --> 00:11:48,540 no, I wasn't concerned at all when they when they threw a few 206 00:11:48,540 --> 00:11:49,740 cruise missiles at him. 207 00:11:51,330 --> 00:11:52,440 Pre 911 208 00:11:54,060 --> 00:11:56,910 That was pre 911. Yeah, yeah. When 911 came up, none of it 209 00:11:56,910 --> 00:11:57,630 surprised me. 210 00:11:57,660 --> 00:12:01,800 And okay, well, then you're just the nasty American bastard. 211 00:12:02,340 --> 00:12:02,790 Oh, well. 212 00:12:03,870 --> 00:12:06,840 That's, that's horrible. I totally disagree with what what 213 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,870 is it? It's not our business to be. Okay. So they've they're 214 00:12:09,870 --> 00:12:12,360 fucked up. That's their problem, but then deal with it. 215 00:12:13,350 --> 00:12:16,350 They had bin Laden? You didn't want it him? 216 00:12:16,410 --> 00:12:22,350 We wouldn't know about Bin Laden pre 911. They did too. Oh, John, 217 00:12:22,380 --> 00:12:26,340 if they really did, then 911 wouldn't have taken place? Or 218 00:12:26,340 --> 00:12:29,190 the whole thing is bullshit. Ergo, your argument is bullshit 219 00:12:29,190 --> 00:12:33,690 about them having 911. Bin Laden? 220 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,810 Yeah, I'm not I'm not buying your gear, you know, you're kind 221 00:12:39,810 --> 00:12:44,070 of is it skews off the road? You know, as you go into the ditch 222 00:12:44,070 --> 00:12:47,400 with your notion that there's some sort of deeper conspiracy? 223 00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:50,610 It doesn't doesn't go off the road at all. We're not talking 224 00:12:50,610 --> 00:12:51,780 about that. I'm saying 225 00:12:52,319 --> 00:12:55,619 that we think we should have done nothing in Afghanistan. 226 00:12:56,220 --> 00:13:00,600 If if the Taliban is causing a problem in in their own in their 227 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:05,100 own country in their own region? What, what, what benefit does it 228 00:13:05,100 --> 00:13:08,100 give us to go over there and start to kick people around and 229 00:13:08,100 --> 00:13:09,630 set him straight? What benefit? 230 00:13:11,580 --> 00:13:14,100 So you think we do shouldn't have gotten into Afghanistan? 231 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,730 There's, there's no try to get bin Laden and straighten those 232 00:13:17,730 --> 00:13:18,270 guys out. 233 00:13:18,510 --> 00:13:21,420 Trying to get bin Laden is different than than lobbing a 234 00:13:21,420 --> 00:13:27,330 few cruise missiles over, okay. That's different. If you want to 235 00:13:27,330 --> 00:13:29,910 go get bin Laden, then you get your delta forces or whatever, 236 00:13:29,910 --> 00:13:33,930 and go find him. I mean, it's not it is not impossible. And we 237 00:13:33,930 --> 00:13:39,240 have the largest military and secret military operation in the 238 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,480 world. And we can't find one guy come on, 239 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,560 didn't you read the Atlantic? Monthly material and the fact of 240 00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:49,590 the CIA and all that type of operation was guided largely 241 00:13:49,590 --> 00:13:51,360 during the Clinton administration and Bush hasn't, 242 00:13:51,390 --> 00:13:54,180 you know, they were just Bush couldn't reestablish that stuff, 243 00:13:54,180 --> 00:13:59,340 because you just got there. I don't think the CIA or I don't 244 00:13:59,340 --> 00:14:01,170 think any of these people have the ability to do what you 245 00:14:01,170 --> 00:14:02,730 described. At that point. 246 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,210 We'll go okay, then we don't do it. End of story. I'm sorry. 247 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,510 Hey, you know, you there's trade sanctions, you can invoke you 248 00:14:09,510 --> 00:14:12,510 can the President come out and can come down 249 00:14:12,540 --> 00:14:16,440 tonight so your basic basically a justice not vengeance guy. 250 00:14:16,590 --> 00:14:19,980 No, no, what's the vengeance? If you're saying first you say the 251 00:14:19,980 --> 00:14:22,860 Taliban was bad. And I say, Oh, we have to throw cruise missiles 252 00:14:22,860 --> 00:14:26,370 over? Well, they were hiding bin Laden. Same thing. We got to 253 00:14:26,370 --> 00:14:29,340 throw cruise missiles over well, we didn't have the CIA had been 254 00:14:29,340 --> 00:14:32,040 gutted. So we got to throw cruise missiles over 255 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,120 at OSHA. But then what would you what should we have done? 256 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,770 Nothing? Nothing is what you're saying? 257 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,460 No, nothing. I'd have done absolutely nothing. Yeah, 258 00:14:41,850 --> 00:14:43,860 there was a really interesting article written in the London 259 00:14:43,860 --> 00:14:46,740 Times by one of the professor's I think, one of them sorry, 260 00:14:46,740 --> 00:14:48,930 if I was actually President, I would have had to do something 261 00:14:48,930 --> 00:14:51,360 because hey, they were they were, of course, and this is why 262 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,600 it actually took place. Our drug supply is over there, which the 263 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,450 government is importing into the United States and Western 264 00:14:57,450 --> 00:15:00,120 Europe. So of course, that's why we threw in some Kruseman This 265 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,910 was to go kick their ass and say, Hey, we're taking over the 266 00:15:02,970 --> 00:15:06,330 drug trade. We're the new Big Boss in town. At that point, 267 00:15:06,330 --> 00:15:10,530 when we went into Afghanistan in 2003, or four, whatever it is, 268 00:15:10,860 --> 00:15:14,100 the Taliban had actually reduced the poppy fields down to almost 269 00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:17,370 zero. Now they're back up to full precast capacity plus, 270 00:15:18,660 --> 00:15:22,530 that's what that's what that's for, not to go find bin Laden. 271 00:15:22,980 --> 00:15:27,510 So you think the whole thing was just a ruse to get to get our 272 00:15:27,510 --> 00:15:29,490 supply of heroin back up to snuff 273 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:35,400 and indirectly to maintain the support of our economy? Yes, 274 00:15:35,910 --> 00:15:40,890 absolutely. The drug trade is the drug money is a big part of 275 00:15:40,980 --> 00:15:43,380 our economy, which is Wall Street, which is where it all 276 00:15:43,380 --> 00:15:44,490 goes, yes. 277 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,640 So what else is going on? 278 00:15:51,870 --> 00:15:52,860 I'm in a bad mood. 279 00:15:54,450 --> 00:15:55,980 Thank you. 280 00:15:56,370 --> 00:15:59,160 This is what pissed me off. So Patricia is doing her show. 281 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,890 She's doing a double shot. She did Friday night last night. 282 00:16:02,070 --> 00:16:04,890 Once again, number one in the time slot, even larger audience 283 00:16:04,890 --> 00:16:10,470 than last week. And she can be entered to, to milk it to suck 284 00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:15,600 the teat and to bash the competition. They're now doing a 285 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:20,220 second show on Saturday night. Which, which puts her out for a 286 00:16:20,220 --> 00:16:23,580 couple days. So I'm home with a teenager my my 18 year old 287 00:16:23,580 --> 00:16:25,710 daughter who let's face it, you know, I'm on the road a lot. I 288 00:16:25,710 --> 00:16:29,160 don't see all the time. We had a nice meal. The other night we 289 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,030 went out to dinner, but I don't mind her boyfriend staying over 290 00:16:33,060 --> 00:16:35,400 which he doesn't. She didn't ask because you know, he just came 291 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,670 in and he's staying over. But then in the morning when she has 292 00:16:38,670 --> 00:16:42,240 to get up to go to work. And I've been working until 2am 293 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,470 doing video shit, she knows it. And her boyfriend has stayed 294 00:16:46,470 --> 00:16:52,470 over. And the smoke alarm goes off at eight o'clock. And 295 00:16:52,470 --> 00:16:55,740 because she's cooking up a whole breakfast in bed for this guy. I 296 00:16:55,740 --> 00:16:58,710 like the guy Dexter. She's cooking up a whole breakfast in 297 00:16:58,710 --> 00:17:03,090 bed, which she's never done for me once in 18 years, never ever. 298 00:17:03,870 --> 00:17:07,350 And then I go downstairs. The whole kitchen is a mess. She 299 00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:10,170 didn't she couldn't even have the courtesy to clean out the 300 00:17:10,170 --> 00:17:12,810 dishwasher and put the dirty shit she just created for her 301 00:17:12,810 --> 00:17:16,080 boyfriend back in and they drank all the orange juice, which was 302 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,080 a brand new bottle of orange juice didn't leave me one drop. 303 00:17:20,850 --> 00:17:23,070 I'm so sick and tired of it. Ah. 304 00:17:24,149 --> 00:17:28,049 So because of this, you're now on the side of the Taliban. 305 00:17:28,229 --> 00:17:31,499 I'm no would you watch wash your mouth out with soap John C. 306 00:17:31,499 --> 00:17:34,469 Dvorak. Don't say those things. Of course, I'm not on the side 307 00:17:34,469 --> 00:17:38,249 of the Taliban. I'm against all evil, which includes throwing 308 00:17:38,249 --> 00:17:44,999 bombs at people just dumb inlets unless they throw a bomb at you 309 00:17:44,999 --> 00:17:47,699 first, and then we go kick their ass. That's different. 310 00:17:49,380 --> 00:17:55,440 So what did you tell her? Did you get mad or did you just 311 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:55,920 sulk? 312 00:17:55,950 --> 00:18:00,600 I know I got mad. And actually, my voice started to crack. 313 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,840 That's how mad I was. Wow. Well, because she gives me this 314 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,930 attitude. Don't do it. When I come home from work. You have 315 00:18:06,930 --> 00:18:11,250 time to sit on Facebook, bake your boyfriend breakfast in bed, 316 00:18:11,580 --> 00:18:15,900 and you don't have time to do the dishwasher. Pass you treat 317 00:18:15,900 --> 00:18:18,780 the place like a hotel. Now I know why Patricia is complaining 318 00:18:18,780 --> 00:18:23,850 all the time. So now I have to deal with it. That's the whole 319 00:18:23,850 --> 00:18:24,600 point. So 320 00:18:26,099 --> 00:18:29,879 I'm like running into a bit of a dish. It's like, gotta go. 321 00:18:30,029 --> 00:18:34,649 Gotta go. Patricia. Gotta go. Oh, man. It's like I'm running 322 00:18:34,649 --> 00:18:37,769 in fucking bed and breakfast here and I'm cleaning up crap. 323 00:18:37,769 --> 00:18:40,019 No, actually, here's here's where it all started. I'm really 324 00:18:40,019 --> 00:18:44,639 mad. So I work I'm working for like 14 hours in the city is 325 00:18:44,669 --> 00:18:47,189 almost a two hour commute to come back these days. You know, 326 00:18:47,219 --> 00:18:50,759 taxi, train taxi that you take a car you take the tube doesn't 327 00:18:50,759 --> 00:18:54,629 matter. It's all the same. It's always two hours. So I'm two I'm 328 00:18:54,629 --> 00:18:58,589 in a cab at six o'clock. And I'd asked her one thing one thing 329 00:18:58,589 --> 00:19:01,649 when you come home from school, please feed the animals let them 330 00:19:01,649 --> 00:19:05,369 out. That's all one thing. And she was home at four. And then 331 00:19:05,369 --> 00:19:07,769 when she was gonna go out to a party with a with a boyfriend at 332 00:19:07,769 --> 00:19:11,219 eight so all this time, she calls me Oh, Daddy, I locked 333 00:19:11,219 --> 00:19:13,799 myself out. I was gonna go get something a Dexter's and my keys 334 00:19:13,799 --> 00:19:16,859 inside and how do I get in? So well? How do you get in you wait 335 00:19:16,859 --> 00:19:19,499 until them homes, you know? So I'm running. I'm running through 336 00:19:19,499 --> 00:19:22,199 Waterloo Station. I'm out of breath. You know to catch the 337 00:19:22,259 --> 00:19:26,039 catch a train that goes 20 minutes earlier. I'm riding home 338 00:19:26,039 --> 00:19:29,009 I'm texting her um, yeah, I'll be there in 30 minutes. I'm at 339 00:19:29,009 --> 00:19:31,589 the station. I'm around the corner. She's not texting me 340 00:19:31,589 --> 00:19:35,729 back. You know, so I'm running and I've come in i all her shits 341 00:19:35,729 --> 00:19:38,399 on the floor. The minute I walk in the door I'm literally 342 00:19:38,399 --> 00:19:41,909 falling over it. She hasn't fed the dog she was there for four 343 00:19:41,909 --> 00:19:45,299 hours. It hadn't fed the dog didn't let him out the I know 344 00:19:45,299 --> 00:19:47,609 the key was still out of the door. I mean all of this. I'm 345 00:19:47,609 --> 00:19:50,339 just getting so angry and then she doesn't. And I text her 346 00:19:50,339 --> 00:19:52,529 she's not calling me back. She's not texting me back because 347 00:19:52,679 --> 00:19:58,739 turns out she was busy doing her boyfriend's makeup for for the 348 00:19:58,739 --> 00:20:06,119 costume party. I need this you as a as a mature father with the 349 00:20:06,269 --> 00:20:11,729 children of multiple, multiple whatever you got, like 29 kids 350 00:20:11,729 --> 00:20:16,439 from three wives. It does this sound familiar to you? Sounds 351 00:20:16,469 --> 00:20:21,569 par for the course. What am I doing wrong? Nothing. Oh, no, 352 00:20:21,569 --> 00:20:25,049 no, that's not Hello. Sorry. What am I doing? Hello? Is this 353 00:20:25,049 --> 00:20:28,289 on? I want to make sure you can hear me. So that's it, huh? 354 00:20:29,490 --> 00:20:32,040 Yeah. Then they move out. You know? 355 00:20:32,759 --> 00:20:35,189 You miss them and they miss him and did they 356 00:20:35,189 --> 00:20:37,649 come in and then when after they move out and they start visiting 357 00:20:37,649 --> 00:20:43,019 just to take stuff? What happened to this edge? 358 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,119 That's already happening. She takes stuff and then she leaves 359 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,979 it somewhere and forgets where she left it. 360 00:20:50,789 --> 00:20:53,159 They take stuff to their house. Oh, that's 361 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,040 even worse. Well, the minute she has a house I'm coming over 362 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,890 there. I'm stomping chips into the potato chips into the 363 00:20:58,890 --> 00:21:02,220 carpet. I'm leaving my shit around. I'm leaving doors open 364 00:21:02,220 --> 00:21:03,000 lights on. 365 00:21:06,210 --> 00:21:09,090 The lights on Oh, places lit up like a Roman candle. 366 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,249 Did you know what I'm saying? You know, does that sound 367 00:21:11,249 --> 00:21:12,599 familiar? Yes, 368 00:21:12,599 --> 00:21:16,439 because no button and no kid thinks to turn the lights off. 369 00:21:16,949 --> 00:21:20,219 taking showers. It's a it's a muscle exercise. And they don't 370 00:21:20,219 --> 00:21:21,749 have it. It's not in the body. 371 00:21:22,020 --> 00:21:26,370 Is this is God This is insanity. This has got to stop. I don't 372 00:21:26,370 --> 00:21:28,920 know how to do oh, by the way. I got something here. John, you're 373 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,870 gonna be very jealous of in my hand from my wonderful friend 374 00:21:33,870 --> 00:21:38,340 Paul Parkinson. He sent this to my house that arrived today. And 375 00:21:38,340 --> 00:21:42,120 he sent a couple of of books as well which I really that's like 376 00:21:42,150 --> 00:21:45,630 that. What a gift of love to give someone books. Because it 377 00:21:45,630 --> 00:21:48,180 says so much about what they think about you. As the 378 00:21:48,180 --> 00:21:53,670 recipient. I hold in my hand. A 10 billion. No, I'm sorry. $100 379 00:21:53,670 --> 00:21:59,520 billion note from Zimbabwe. Well, because you'd only had a 380 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,510 10 billion right 381 00:22:00,779 --> 00:22:04,919 now and I only have to devote what I have is a 10 million I 382 00:22:04,919 --> 00:22:06,119 don't have a 10 billion 383 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:13,199 $100 billion expires on December 31 2008. 384 00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:17,190 But so it's still good for it's still good. It's still $100 385 00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:20,280 billion. Well, I'm gonna it's in it's a perfect note. By the way, 386 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:20,970 it has not been 387 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,420 perfect today these things don't get worn out get naked scan of 388 00:22:24,420 --> 00:22:26,670 it and send it to me so I can blog it Yeah, 389 00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:30,000 no, it's is beautiful. No, no, no, no, no, I like you. I'm 390 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,310 gonna blog it and then you can put a link to me. You crazy I 391 00:22:35,310 --> 00:22:37,080 gotta get some link love. I love 392 00:22:37,619 --> 00:22:40,019 what's your serial number on that thing at the lower right 393 00:22:40,019 --> 00:22:41,699 hand corner should have some number 394 00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:46,620 020229000 No, 395 00:22:46,620 --> 00:22:49,620 that's the one at the bottom underneath bearer check. There 396 00:22:49,620 --> 00:22:52,140 should be a stamped black number over on the right down at the 397 00:22:52,140 --> 00:22:52,500 bottom. 398 00:22:53,880 --> 00:23:02,820 At the top. It's a AAA 587653 and the DEA something I've a 399 00:23:04,380 --> 00:23:07,410 so I have the I have the rare AE series John. 400 00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:12,000 Yeah, well I have the 10 of the 100 million notes Yes. I love 401 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,940 this actually say $100 million. 402 00:23:15,390 --> 00:23:18,690 You see and has all the zeros on it too. It's it's really cool. 403 00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:22,380 And it says here it just like our money paid to the bearer on 404 00:23:22,380 --> 00:23:27,210 demand. $100 billion on or before 31st December 2008 for 405 00:23:27,210 --> 00:23:31,530 the Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe yes yes you need first of July 2008 406 00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:35,369 Yeah, that's Do you know if you hold up to the light you should 407 00:23:35,369 --> 00:23:40,049 see two watermarks. Say and also a security band down the middle. 408 00:23:40,079 --> 00:23:43,349 Yeah, one Hey, it looks like a dildo. That's what I thought 409 00:23:43,349 --> 00:23:47,339 when I saw it. Or like a like a bong almost. It's 410 00:23:47,339 --> 00:23:51,119 weird. Yeah. And then it should be RBZ on there and then it 411 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,329 should also be that black line down the middle secure I got the 412 00:23:54,329 --> 00:23:56,789 Blackboard I got the bug security lie at the real deal 413 00:23:56,789 --> 00:23:58,319 that's a real 100 billion dollars 414 00:23:58,529 --> 00:24:04,259 congratulations you win $100 million and I'm going to blog 415 00:24:04,259 --> 00:24:07,919 this and and you don't I'm going to put it in a permanent spot on 416 00:24:07,919 --> 00:24:11,129 the homepage for every day I can be reminded of what our money 417 00:24:11,129 --> 00:24:15,269 will look like what the dollar will look like this is it this 418 00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:17,759 that's what it is this is this is what happens when you when 419 00:24:17,759 --> 00:24:20,339 you give your government a printing press. This is what you 420 00:24:20,339 --> 00:24:20,669 get. 421 00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:23,009 This is what you get. 422 00:24:23,609 --> 00:24:26,009 My understanding is they're going to change the name to the 423 00:24:26,039 --> 00:24:27,839 from the dollar to the peso 424 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,889 Yeah, maybe it doesn't matter 425 00:24:32,250 --> 00:24:34,590 if there's no edge because Oh, actually, you know, the the 426 00:24:34,620 --> 00:24:36,330 marrow is still in play. 427 00:24:36,930 --> 00:24:40,680 Yeah, I was. This has been going on for a long time. And but it 428 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,500 doesn't really matter what you call it. If it's based on 429 00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:48,690 nothing, then it's not worth anything. Right? 430 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,560 I use the word simple then send me your money if it's not worth 431 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:53,070 anything. 432 00:24:53,219 --> 00:24:54,779 Now it's worth something now. 433 00:24:55,229 --> 00:24:59,429 My hunch is what he said. That's all it counts is now 434 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,600 Exactly so right now I'm happy. Oh, I got sad again because I 435 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:11,220 thought of two minutes from now it's Obama is totally being seen 436 00:25:11,220 --> 00:25:12,660 as the president of the world. 437 00:25:14,549 --> 00:25:17,969 Yeah, that's interesting. Well, he's somebody was commenting on 438 00:25:17,969 --> 00:25:20,849 the fact that they've never seen an acceptance speech before. 439 00:25:21,299 --> 00:25:24,329 Where there wasn't normally the acceptance visa guys up there 440 00:25:24,329 --> 00:25:26,969 with his family and they're in that kind of a cosy room and 441 00:25:26,969 --> 00:25:29,129 they're accepting it to the to their, 442 00:25:29,669 --> 00:25:33,239 to their local, their local their local hangout. Yeah. 443 00:25:33,659 --> 00:25:37,319 And so he's doing in front of a big audience with nobody around 444 00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:39,449 and it's the same lighting you know, it's all it's another 445 00:25:39,449 --> 00:25:43,079 staged event. They thought that was peculiar. And then so 446 00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:46,139 apparently, Charlie Rose some of the now that media is starting 447 00:25:46,139 --> 00:25:48,629 to think of, they're actually using the term cult of 448 00:25:48,629 --> 00:25:49,619 personality. 449 00:25:49,769 --> 00:25:53,909 Oh, I played that song the other day on daily source code. Living 450 00:25:53,909 --> 00:25:57,809 Colour, remember that? Remember Living Colour? Yeah. Not the TV 451 00:25:57,809 --> 00:26:01,499 show. John. The band. Yeah, the song. But you remember the song? 452 00:26:02,459 --> 00:26:05,639 No, I don't. Why are you saying why are you saying yes, if you 453 00:26:05,639 --> 00:26:09,569 don't remember the song? I remember the group. Okay, what 454 00:26:09,569 --> 00:26:11,309 did the lead singer look like? Because you're lying. You're 455 00:26:11,309 --> 00:26:14,909 full of shit. I don't remember. You would remember if you 456 00:26:14,909 --> 00:26:16,469 remember this group you would remember? 457 00:26:16,859 --> 00:26:23,519 D look like? Like one of these you know? Like, I can't remember 458 00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:25,079 these names. This goes back too far. 459 00:26:26,730 --> 00:26:29,250 Even I remember this. Well, yeah, 460 00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:31,259 we're in the business to remember that. 461 00:26:31,740 --> 00:26:36,750 This was 19 I'm gonna say 90 You remember him because it was one 462 00:26:36,750 --> 00:26:40,200 of the first really hard rockin groups that had a black guy 463 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:45,090 fronting it Corey Glover so you don't you don't remember 464 00:26:48,299 --> 00:26:53,849 Hey, just listen to this write down give me an education I can 465 00:26:53,849 --> 00:26:54,839 easily understand 466 00:27:01,650 --> 00:27:02,580 Okay, remember the song? 467 00:27:03,239 --> 00:27:06,329 No. Okay. Play it down 468 00:27:06,329 --> 00:27:07,289 I'm gonna play the whole thing 469 00:27:08,069 --> 00:27:08,969 will play part of it. 470 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,080 I just played play some lyrics didn't you? Didn't you just hear 471 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:13,290 it? 472 00:27:14,819 --> 00:27:17,339 I just was like in the background. I could barely hear 473 00:27:17,339 --> 00:27:17,519 it. 474 00:27:17,579 --> 00:27:19,229 Well wait a minute. That's not right. You're supposed to it's 475 00:27:19,229 --> 00:27:24,239 supposed to be really loud. How come I say here we go. Do you 476 00:27:24,239 --> 00:27:24,599 hear that? 477 00:27:25,109 --> 00:27:26,099 I can do that now 478 00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:35,579 I have a little bit of lyrics 479 00:27:49,740 --> 00:27:50,340 you know I'm saying 480 00:27:51,420 --> 00:27:54,210 oh, you know, I know I vaguely remember that. Yeah. 481 00:27:56,069 --> 00:27:58,319 You probably have this CD right next to your New Kids on the 482 00:27:58,319 --> 00:27:59,039 Block CD 483 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:09,089 Yeah, yeah. Right. I vaguely remember that song. 484 00:28:09,539 --> 00:28:12,449 It was a huge it was a massive hit. They had one other song and 485 00:28:12,449 --> 00:28:14,819 that was it and I actually wonder where the guy is he's 486 00:28:14,819 --> 00:28:18,239 gone. So anyway, yeah. cult of personality completely because 487 00:28:18,239 --> 00:28:20,399 that that's what we're looking at 100% 488 00:28:21,509 --> 00:28:23,909 Yeah, I think we knew that from the get 489 00:28:23,910 --> 00:28:26,190 go Yeah, but it's so dangerous. 490 00:28:27,210 --> 00:28:30,270 Yeah, it tends to be but you know it's usually becomes a big 491 00:28:30,270 --> 00:28:32,580 disappointment and problem with cult of personality is that when 492 00:28:32,580 --> 00:28:37,470 you have when that when you're when your fans turn on you it's 493 00:28:37,470 --> 00:28:38,220 pretty ugly. 494 00:28:40,109 --> 00:28:44,009 Yes, it can get very ugly but the really good ones that look 495 00:28:44,009 --> 00:28:46,859 good you've got the all you really need is the media. You 496 00:28:46,859 --> 00:28:50,339 need the media in your pocket as much as possible. That's going 497 00:28:50,339 --> 00:28:54,989 to be interesting to see if if the the Obama administration can 498 00:28:54,989 --> 00:28:56,429 control the spin 499 00:28:58,619 --> 00:29:00,689 well, you know, they got some good people there you know, the 500 00:29:00,689 --> 00:29:05,699 actual rod and those characters are pretty pretty. And yeah, 501 00:29:05,729 --> 00:29:08,189 they're pretty nasty. Well, if they're all in control, this is 502 00:29:08,189 --> 00:29:11,219 all it's apparent already. Did when did the cult personality 503 00:29:11,219 --> 00:29:16,499 get this get that big, long hair is long haired black man. What? 504 00:29:17,369 --> 00:29:19,229 Wasn't a guy that singer on that? Oh, yeah. 505 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,590 You finally Googled him and now you're looking at a picture. It 506 00:29:22,590 --> 00:29:23,520 took you a long time. We'll 507 00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:25,259 go with this because we lose our connection. 508 00:29:26,369 --> 00:29:29,189 You bullshit. you're Googling, 509 00:29:30,779 --> 00:29:32,519 Googling, like that? 510 00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:37,049 You're so busted. I saw the European Union put out there 511 00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:42,029 October 29. Communication. And greenhouse has now become a 512 00:29:42,029 --> 00:29:47,009 Verb. To greenhouse doubt to green the economy, 513 00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:50,909 but to green the economy. Yeah. No, that's terrible. Yeah. 514 00:29:50,940 --> 00:29:54,000 In fact, if you look at their, their communication is pretty 515 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,210 much you could put Obama Biden on it. And you say, All right, 516 00:29:57,870 --> 00:30:02,130 it's the same thing. and more money going into the banks. 517 00:30:02,610 --> 00:30:05,700 Bloomberg, this was offence. I answered a few I find this link 518 00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:09,180 Bloomberg, I read today, they put it a Freedom of Information 519 00:30:09,330 --> 00:30:13,650 request for all the money the Federal Reserve had lent to the 520 00:30:13,650 --> 00:30:19,050 financial industry prior to the bailout. So outside of the 700 521 00:30:19,050 --> 00:30:22,830 billion. And it turns out, they have lent, in addition to the 522 00:30:22,830 --> 00:30:28,620 $700,000,000,001.5 trillion to financial institutions, 523 00:30:28,620 --> 00:30:30,870 Bloomberg said, hey, you know, we'd like to know, what kind of 524 00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:34,020 securities have you received against that? Because that's the 525 00:30:34,020 --> 00:30:37,260 deal. They lend you the money. And then these banks were 526 00:30:37,260 --> 00:30:40,530 already apparently before the bailout, were handing over their 527 00:30:40,530 --> 00:30:43,950 worthless paper to the government as collateral or, you 528 00:30:43,950 --> 00:30:46,890 know, or as purchase I'm not quite sure which, and that's the 529 00:30:46,890 --> 00:30:50,550 whole point. And so Bloomberg said, hey, you know, can we take 530 00:30:50,550 --> 00:30:52,530 a look at that? Because we'd like to know what what, you 531 00:30:52,530 --> 00:30:54,600 know, what all that all of our money is being securitized 532 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,410 against. And the Federal Reserve said, No, that's none of your 533 00:30:58,410 --> 00:31:04,800 business. Your business. And by the way, were you know, were you 534 00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:10,050 Yeah, and your mom was? Thanks. Nananananana. That's, that's 535 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,580 outrageous, John. 536 00:31:13,740 --> 00:31:17,130 Cool. Well, what's outrageous is Bloomberg. First this guy talks 537 00:31:17,130 --> 00:31:18,480 him into letting him go first. 538 00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:22,500 I'm talking about Bloomberg, not Bloomberg, the mayor, I'm 539 00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:25,170 talking about Bloomberg, the news organisation. 540 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,260 Well, owned by Bloomberg, the mayor, I 541 00:31:28,260 --> 00:31:30,240 just want to make sure you knew that I was. That's what I was 542 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:30,930 saying. You know, I 543 00:31:30,929 --> 00:31:33,389 thought you were talking about Bloomberg the mayor. Okay. Well, 544 00:31:33,420 --> 00:31:35,940 tell us about Bloomberg, the mayor, the guy who wants to 545 00:31:36,390 --> 00:31:40,410 extend his term. He's like Berlusconi in New York. 546 00:31:41,309 --> 00:31:44,639 Exactly. So firstly, extended, he talks everybody into this. 547 00:31:44,639 --> 00:31:47,279 And so he goes in, he gets his reelected. Then he says, Okay, 548 00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:50,279 we're going to update in come chat, excellent percent for all 549 00:31:50,279 --> 00:31:52,109 you New Yorkers. And we're going to do this, we're gonna do that 550 00:31:52,109 --> 00:31:57,719 and just like slams it to him. So there's, you know, the New 551 00:31:57,719 --> 00:31:59,729 York is one of the few cities in the United States where you have 552 00:31:59,729 --> 00:32:04,049 to pay an income tax to live there. Yeah. And the city wants 553 00:32:04,049 --> 00:32:06,989 to jerk it up to 15% or 10. At least. 554 00:32:07,019 --> 00:32:10,739 Well, he has to, he has to, ya know, the city's broke is 555 00:32:10,739 --> 00:32:13,229 completely broke. And now they're using the 556 00:32:13,650 --> 00:32:16,230 well, he's been editing for as long as he has, how did he get 557 00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:21,840 broke? Whose fault is that? Well, anybody who's been there 558 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,250 for two terms? Yeah. 559 00:32:23,820 --> 00:32:28,200 So him pay. Yeah. 560 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,200 So it goes. 561 00:32:34,109 --> 00:32:38,699 So then we have our arm, you know, the crazy Mayor we've got 562 00:32:38,729 --> 00:32:44,069 is Gavin Newsom from San Francisco. Yeah. Guy, you know, 563 00:32:44,069 --> 00:32:45,509 he obviously wants to be president. 564 00:32:47,670 --> 00:32:49,350 Yeah, so what did he do this time? 565 00:32:50,549 --> 00:32:54,029 I mean, he's just essentially whining about the fact that 566 00:32:54,029 --> 00:32:58,559 proposition eight was passed, even though it's largely his 567 00:32:58,559 --> 00:32:59,129 fault. 568 00:32:59,430 --> 00:33:03,210 Right. So we, we talked about this previously, I believe it 569 00:33:03,210 --> 00:33:08,520 was a week ago, Proposition eight was to ban gay marriage in 570 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,380 the state of California, correct. 571 00:33:11,940 --> 00:33:14,970 It was to re ban gay marriage that had been banned once 572 00:33:14,970 --> 00:33:20,760 before. And it wasn't unbanned it was unbanned by the courts. 573 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:27,030 And then the guys like Newsom are gloating about it, which is 574 00:33:27,030 --> 00:33:28,440 by the way, where I'm seeing a lot of 575 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,250 fun. Any Obama Halia a lot of that, 576 00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:34,770 I mean, this is what the Bill Maher thing I brought up even 577 00:33:34,770 --> 00:33:37,950 though it's set you off into a offbeat direction that's gonna 578 00:33:38,790 --> 00:33:45,000 help you reputation much, but the gloating just gloating about 579 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,100 well, you know, and there's, you know, there's just been there's 580 00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:50,970 still pounding on Sarah Palin and McCain as though they did 581 00:33:50,970 --> 00:33:53,910 like, we're gonna have another election. You know, let's just 582 00:33:54,060 --> 00:33:57,990 pile on. And the one thing that was interesting to me was is the 583 00:33:57,990 --> 00:34:03,120 in the insincerity of it all, for example, on Maher show, he 584 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:09,330 showed the John McCain speech where he conceded and there's 585 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,080 some people in the audience booing boo, you know, when he 586 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,990 mentioned Obama, and so McCain told him to shut up and they 587 00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:19,650 did. And so Marsh shows this showing that the Republicans are 588 00:34:19,650 --> 00:34:23,250 a bunch of a holes for booing Obama. And then he says, Look at 589 00:34:23,250 --> 00:34:25,410 what Kerry did. And then he shows Kerry giving his 590 00:34:25,410 --> 00:34:29,430 concession speech, you know, and he just shows who knows what 591 00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:31,950 part of it and nobody says anything. In fact, the room is 592 00:34:31,950 --> 00:34:36,210 deadly silent. And I'm thinking what a bunch of boldest guys 593 00:34:36,210 --> 00:34:38,430 like he's been in broadcasting long enough to know that if you 594 00:34:38,430 --> 00:34:41,010 don't mic the audience, you'd be able to be boring and who's 595 00:34:41,010 --> 00:34:44,700 gonna know. Yeah, it seemed to me that the Kerry group wasn't 596 00:34:44,700 --> 00:34:47,280 dumb audience wasn't Mike died, did a thing once in Las Vegas 597 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,060 where we had this huge audience. I couldn't believe it. We had 598 00:34:51,060 --> 00:34:53,460 this huge audience and we're doing a live presentation and 599 00:34:53,460 --> 00:34:58,800 they didn't mic the audience. So I was I had some some hilarious 600 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,250 material and And the audience was going crazy. It was really 601 00:35:02,250 --> 00:35:05,970 funny. He was laughing, you'd have to pause for the laughter. 602 00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:09,540 When I was doing a TV back in the early 80s. In the 603 00:35:09,540 --> 00:35:12,750 Netherlands, we did a series of what we did a whole season live. 604 00:35:13,140 --> 00:35:15,930 And so you get in a whole different crew and, and it's 605 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,010 intense to do a music show live, you've got X and the X, they all 606 00:35:20,250 --> 00:35:25,470 would lip sync to their own track. But what the sound 607 00:35:25,470 --> 00:35:27,390 technician did, and of course, I didn't know this at the time 608 00:35:27,390 --> 00:35:32,010 until I watched the tape of the show. And when I freaked out, is 609 00:35:32,250 --> 00:35:34,530 that we had a, you know, we had a studio audience, you know, 610 00:35:34,530 --> 00:35:37,290 like 150 Kids and they'd stand in front of the stage and the 611 00:35:37,290 --> 00:35:40,950 speakers were booming. And, you know, whoever whatever megastar 612 00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:43,800 would be up there. It was like Duran Duran, I think even at the 613 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,200 time who wouldn't be able to sing live, even if we'd asked 614 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,440 them to on a TV show, or at least not, they would never have 615 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,900 the combination of sound technicians and talent to make 616 00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:55,140 that work. So they live sick. And it was a lot easier, just 617 00:35:55,140 --> 00:35:59,340 that less gear less cost done. It's still a pretty picture. And 618 00:35:59,340 --> 00:36:02,910 the audio engineer did the minute the band started, he 619 00:36:02,910 --> 00:36:06,840 closed the audience mics. So you're basically hearing the 620 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,360 record watching like a video clipping you see all these kids 621 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,730 going nuts in front of the stage and you didn't hear him at all? 622 00:36:11,730 --> 00:36:15,630 No room sound on nothing. completely idiotic. Oh, it is 623 00:36:15,660 --> 00:36:16,740 infuriating. 624 00:36:17,099 --> 00:36:19,949 Well, here's what happened in my situation. So we'd have you say 625 00:36:19,949 --> 00:36:22,229 something funny, you'd wait for the audience to stop laughing 626 00:36:22,229 --> 00:36:24,539 and then you go back. So but what says the audience wasn't 627 00:36:24,539 --> 00:36:27,149 miked? And when you saw the tape on the what that what they 628 00:36:27,149 --> 00:36:29,699 broadcast, it was like a bunch of guys up there saying stuff. 629 00:36:29,849 --> 00:36:32,489 And then you'd say something funny, then there'd be this long 630 00:36:32,939 --> 00:36:36,389 silence as though nobody was laughing. They might as well put 631 00:36:36,389 --> 00:36:40,379 a cricket soundtrack in the background. And you look like a 632 00:36:40,379 --> 00:36:43,799 bunch of fools. And so I went back and talked to the sound guy 633 00:36:43,799 --> 00:36:46,559 but what did what was the deal with that not Mikey? Oh, well, 634 00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:49,469 it's too much work. See what he's talking about? It's too 635 00:36:49,469 --> 00:36:52,289 much work. And so I told him I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't even 636 00:36:52,289 --> 00:36:55,949 go on again. And let's say you know, fix that and they then 637 00:36:55,949 --> 00:36:59,279 what and then it's too much work consisted of taking a mic and 638 00:36:59,279 --> 00:37:01,199 aiming at the audience and turning it up turning 639 00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:03,239 it off. Yeah. Oh, man. 640 00:37:04,380 --> 00:37:07,290 So anyway, so I thought Maher was completely you know, just an 641 00:37:07,290 --> 00:37:10,920 insincere jerk about this whole thing. And but he's just you can 642 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,680 just see he's just like going back to zero the meat is just 643 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,310 getting a mean kind of a lemon. He's becoming the kind of the 644 00:37:17,310 --> 00:37:19,830 grouchy old man that wants the kids off the lawn. 645 00:37:21,179 --> 00:37:25,109 Well, it's, I'm not quite sure where he stands on on most 646 00:37:25,109 --> 00:37:28,229 things. That sounds a little confusing to me. And I'll add to 647 00:37:28,229 --> 00:37:30,659 that, that I cannot watch it over here. There's just no no 648 00:37:30,659 --> 00:37:33,989 way to obtain it. Unless I guess I crawled from the 649 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,900 disk of this show and you can watch it the only reasonable 650 00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:40,440 person on the show was his black woman from NPR who was making 651 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,680 them a commentary that look you guys are like beaten up by a 652 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,690 dead horse. I mean, you're looking making yourself look 653 00:37:45,690 --> 00:37:48,960 like idiots. You know, let's just get on you know and we'll 654 00:37:48,990 --> 00:37:54,390 be Why be so negative about you know, winning. Yeah, she was 655 00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:57,510 actually quite reasonable about it. She saw the problem you 656 00:37:57,510 --> 00:37:58,890 know, that was going to create 657 00:37:59,790 --> 00:38:02,070 I'm tired of all of them. You know, I can't watch any of that 658 00:38:02,070 --> 00:38:04,740 kid just can't watch anyone. It's all it's all so superficial 659 00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:08,910 and and so full of crap. Well, real things are going on. The 660 00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:11,760 credit card bond markets collapsed Friday. 661 00:38:13,350 --> 00:38:15,420 Did you know No, tell me. 662 00:38:15,810 --> 00:38:18,510 Yep, they can't No one's No one's buying the bonds. So 663 00:38:18,510 --> 00:38:23,550 that's it, credit cards will be closed down. And I presume that 664 00:38:23,580 --> 00:38:25,740 credit lines will be tightened. I'm not quite sure how that 665 00:38:25,740 --> 00:38:27,900 work. I guess the way their contracts are written, they can 666 00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:32,040 do pretty much anything they want. So credit cards are now 667 00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:34,950 the next wave the next shock wave that will be 668 00:38:34,949 --> 00:38:37,949 here that was you know, I don't think anybody is not expecting 669 00:38:37,949 --> 00:38:40,379 that. Andrew Horowitz has been harping on getting out of 670 00:38:40,379 --> 00:38:42,359 Capital One for almost a year. 671 00:38:43,889 --> 00:38:46,889 Well, I'm not giving this as financial advice to people who 672 00:38:46,889 --> 00:38:50,309 are investing. I'm telling this to normal folks who just 673 00:38:50,309 --> 00:38:54,629 listened to our show and don't live in cycles and reputations 674 00:38:56,850 --> 00:38:58,740 since your credit card your bad. 675 00:38:59,850 --> 00:39:04,080 Yeah, but but people are financed everything on credit 676 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:09,360 cards, entire movies. Entire startups are financed on credit 677 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,320 cards. Where will Silicon Valley go with credit cards? Well, I've 678 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,440 no more credit card no more stories. I remember when I 679 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,180 started the company on credit cards 680 00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:23,460 well, you know, we've gotten to you know, our family has gone 681 00:39:23,460 --> 00:39:24,330 all cash. 682 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,039 Yeah, ditto but I've been that way for a long time. But yeah, 683 00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:33,089 you talking cash as in? Absolutely zero plastic at all. 684 00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:38,280 Yeah, like cash, we go to the we go to the bank, take cash, you 685 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,620 know, put in, you know, and then buy things with cash and makes a 686 00:39:40,620 --> 00:39:43,140 difference. The way you did changes your spending habits. 687 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,130 Because when you're actually putting cash down on the table, 688 00:39:47,550 --> 00:39:50,250 you think twice about it as opposed to just throwing a card 689 00:39:50,250 --> 00:39:50,640 up there. 690 00:39:50,699 --> 00:39:53,669 It's funny, I was talking about that very topic on the daily 691 00:39:53,669 --> 00:39:57,119 source code, where you know, credit cards and even some of 692 00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:02,369 the smart card debit cards that store money on the chip itself 693 00:40:02,399 --> 00:40:06,239 money. Listen to me that set at three bits differently off the 694 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:11,819 chip. You can't just look at it and say Oh, I have 150 Left or I 695 00:40:11,819 --> 00:40:15,089 have 50 Left or 20 Left or whatever. There's no indicator 696 00:40:15,089 --> 00:40:17,669 there's no readout, you have to stick it into a card reader and 697 00:40:17,669 --> 00:40:20,699 then you know, type your PIN code and all that crap to see 698 00:40:20,699 --> 00:40:24,419 how much money you have left. And now monopoly someone left me 699 00:40:24,539 --> 00:40:30,089 pictures of the new box monopoly brought to you by Visa. You 700 00:40:30,089 --> 00:40:33,689 actually pay for your houses your hotels, and everything with 701 00:40:33,689 --> 00:40:37,889 your Visa credit card in the game. What Yep, there's no more 702 00:40:37,889 --> 00:40:42,689 money what you didn't know this, they had a huge launch in New 703 00:40:42,689 --> 00:40:46,919 York on I think the today's show, they had a huge monopoly. 704 00:40:50,249 --> 00:40:54,569 Like 10 You know, like 100 times scale Monopoly game, you know, 705 00:40:54,569 --> 00:40:59,459 I'll send it to you actually go to drop.io/daily source code. 706 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,029 And you'll see here it is, there's two pictures. First one 707 00:41:03,029 --> 00:41:09,659 is monopoly electronic banking. Uses cards not cash to store 708 00:41:09,659 --> 00:41:13,649 your millions. That one may be fake. The second one I don't 709 00:41:13,649 --> 00:41:16,979 think is fake though. But I remember the monopoly guy with a 710 00:41:16,979 --> 00:41:19,379 hat on you know, he was walking around the Today Show and he 711 00:41:19,379 --> 00:41:21,329 said oh no, everything's on credit cards now and again. 712 00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:24,480 I find this hard to believe. 713 00:41:24,839 --> 00:41:27,659 Now it's true. Come on, man. 714 00:41:28,290 --> 00:41:30,900 can spill apparently it can spilled daily. 715 00:41:35,610 --> 00:41:38,670 I love that keyboard. You have such a. It sounds like you're 716 00:41:38,670 --> 00:41:41,100 still using your Wang keyboard actually 717 00:41:41,130 --> 00:41:48,540 daily dai l y source source code that's it dropping in a log in 718 00:41:48,540 --> 00:41:50,040 it says that the login no 719 00:41:50,070 --> 00:41:59,640 drop.io/data source code. You sure that it's not saying login 720 00:41:59,970 --> 00:42:01,920 or share the URL is right. 721 00:42:04,830 --> 00:42:09,300 I have dropped that IO daily source code and it says login to 722 00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:10,110 this drop. 723 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,450 That's That's bullshit. 724 00:42:13,409 --> 00:42:16,799 I'm gonna send you a screenshot now it showed up. I swear to God 725 00:42:16,799 --> 00:42:17,819 it just popped up now. 726 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:18,930 Watch what happens. 727 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:26,430 Well, bio is not the first black president. That's a zero coffee 728 00:42:26,430 --> 00:42:29,580 shop and you could just go to monopoly.com and here it is. I 729 00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:32,130 see it. I see it. Yeah, it's the real picture. It's the real 730 00:42:32,130 --> 00:42:38,550 picture from monopoly.com It's not a Photoshop you see that? 731 00:42:39,090 --> 00:42:42,960 Yeah, it's ridiculous. No, man. This is rice. Yeah, 732 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,040 it's got a pin reader. 733 00:42:44,490 --> 00:42:46,920 Yes. ATM machine in the box. 734 00:42:46,949 --> 00:42:49,739 Is this what you want your children to learn how to use 735 00:42:49,769 --> 00:42:53,249 electronic there's no concept of trading something of something 736 00:42:53,249 --> 00:42:56,879 for value. It's sticking a plastic into another plastic 737 00:42:56,879 --> 00:43:00,569 thing. If anything should be labelled porn. 738 00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:07,469 Monopoly ditches cash goes plastic according to Engadget oh 739 00:43:07,469 --> 00:43:15,689 this is ridiculous. This just ruin the game that allow this 740 00:43:15,689 --> 00:43:17,969 Little Reader they get this Little Reader it comes with a 741 00:43:17,969 --> 00:43:18,689 winner of that 742 00:43:21,060 --> 00:43:23,340 but that's the bad actually that's the bank 743 00:43:23,610 --> 00:43:27,540 can you read other cards in that thing? Oh here that we need 744 00:43:27,540 --> 00:43:27,750 other 745 00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:32,760 cards. You mean like your own debit card? Yeah. I find myself 746 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,630 go I do have a debit card debit card is really integrated here 747 00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:40,860 in the UK. And it's it was literally if it's not in the 748 00:43:40,860 --> 00:43:45,150 bank on that account then it doesn't work and and I 749 00:43:45,150 --> 00:43:48,390 deliberately buy the weirdest shit at the weird weirdest 750 00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:54,780 places just to fuck them up you know buy a candy bar and then 751 00:43:54,780 --> 00:43:59,340 I'll then I'll get like $20 from an ATM in San Francisco 752 00:44:00,750 --> 00:44:01,920 just a mess with them 753 00:44:04,260 --> 00:44:07,140 Yeah, well you're probably going to end up on some list and again 754 00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:09,330 just have a book as a weird fees 755 00:44:10,830 --> 00:44:12,510 well we're gonna have fees for everything 756 00:44:14,130 --> 00:44:15,000 that's the 757 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,630 problem that's the problem with this plastic shit yeah, it's and 758 00:44:18,660 --> 00:44:21,360 have you heard the meme yet paper to plastic? I'm hearing it 759 00:44:23,010 --> 00:44:24,570 you wait well it's what you 760 00:44:24,570 --> 00:44:28,080 say is true about the whole credit card you know bond deal 761 00:44:28,110 --> 00:44:30,030 fallen apart? And they can't 762 00:44:30,060 --> 00:44:32,970 Yeah, but that's the that's the credit card part here. So here 763 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,000 you want a conspiracy theory. Here's one for you. We're a 764 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,810 theory not even conspiracy. So yeah, the credit card part the 765 00:44:39,810 --> 00:44:46,260 credit part falls apart. But so why wouldn't a bank the bank 766 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,500 Federal Reserve the Treasury for all I care what differences have 767 00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:52,350 made? Why would they set up a computer system and say okay, 768 00:44:52,350 --> 00:44:57,090 now you can get the official guaranteed bank US Federal 769 00:44:58,350 --> 00:45:03,300 Savings and Loan back I think you'll get a debit card issued 770 00:45:03,780 --> 00:45:06,390 a way to stop it actually would be a debit card. What do you 771 00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:08,490 mean, you don't have to go that far just having a Federal 772 00:45:08,490 --> 00:45:12,300 Reserve credit card? It says you got to reserve on it just like 773 00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:14,430 $1. Bill would have crossed the top. Yeah. 774 00:45:14,429 --> 00:45:16,739 And it has a little little signature there, from the 775 00:45:16,739 --> 00:45:18,569 Treasury from the Secretary of the Treasury. 776 00:45:18,930 --> 00:45:22,080 Right? Like, a miniature dollar. 777 00:45:22,110 --> 00:45:24,900 Yeah. And you could have your face on it instead of instead of 778 00:45:24,900 --> 00:45:30,750 the President. That's right. That's perfect. United, United 779 00:45:31,140 --> 00:45:33,420 States and stuff, that little eagle holding the arrows and 780 00:45:33,420 --> 00:45:33,780 shit, 781 00:45:33,870 --> 00:45:37,080 actually, the way they do it, they do by law, you'd have to 782 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,420 have your face on, it'd be a form of identification. In fact, 783 00:45:39,449 --> 00:45:43,319 of course, without a doubt, because it's, so it's your ID 784 00:45:43,319 --> 00:45:47,399 and your payment in one. And if you misbehave, they just can 785 00:45:47,399 --> 00:45:51,869 they can, they can delete you. You're gone, your card does no 786 00:45:51,869 --> 00:45:53,909 longer work, you are an invalid. 787 00:45:55,679 --> 00:45:57,929 You know, it's possible that that actually makes a lot of 788 00:45:57,929 --> 00:46:00,449 sense, wilted they would that they would do that 789 00:46:00,570 --> 00:46:03,930 Jackie Smith, who was the Home Secretary in the United Kingdom, 790 00:46:04,830 --> 00:46:08,490 not very well, like a woman is now coming out in interviews, 791 00:46:08,490 --> 00:46:13,500 saying, oh, boy, there's so much they're handing out ID cards 792 00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:17,550 now. And they're going to start with workers airside at one of 793 00:46:17,550 --> 00:46:21,450 the large airports, not quite sure which one, which arguably 794 00:46:21,450 --> 00:46:24,930 for of course, Homeland Security is an important thing to have 795 00:46:24,930 --> 00:46:29,010 good identification, but this is the prototype and entered into 796 00:46:29,010 --> 00:46:32,550 the prototype database of the national ID card. So she's 797 00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:34,980 handing them out and she's coming out in the press now and 798 00:46:34,980 --> 00:46:38,340 saying, Wow, the demand has been so big people are calling my 799 00:46:38,340 --> 00:46:41,340 office saying oh, we want one too. Everyone wants an ID card. 800 00:46:41,340 --> 00:46:44,700 We can't make them fast enough. She's literally saying that in 801 00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:49,530 the press. Like someone's gonna call Oh, can I please have my ID 802 00:46:49,530 --> 00:46:53,670 card? It's so cool. I want it well, you know, the Americans 803 00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:56,970 have their Federal Reserve Bank ID card and it is kind of cool 804 00:46:56,970 --> 00:46:59,370 look and look you can even have your own face on it Tommy 805 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,770 Well, I don't know how they get how far they're gonna get with 806 00:47:04,770 --> 00:47:10,050 this plastic to paper idea because I mean, especially if 807 00:47:10,050 --> 00:47:13,230 you're on the West Coast, we have so many Chinese that refuse 808 00:47:13,230 --> 00:47:16,890 to use anything but cash and they run all their businesses on 809 00:47:16,890 --> 00:47:20,730 a cash basis. And you have places you know like a Peter 810 00:47:20,730 --> 00:47:23,610 Luger there in New York you know whether it's a big giant 811 00:47:23,610 --> 00:47:27,120 restaurant is very famous and they only take cash. Does that 812 00:47:27,780 --> 00:47:28,470 hold out? 813 00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:30,750 Does it tell you anything about the Chinese do you think you 814 00:47:30,750 --> 00:47:32,250 might want to follow their strategy? 815 00:47:33,210 --> 00:47:34,500 But you are actually 816 00:47:35,100 --> 00:47:39,450 yeah, I already am. Voice that Chinese had some on the ball 817 00:47:39,450 --> 00:47:41,130 with that idea. That 818 00:47:41,639 --> 00:47:49,769 meanwhile, Zimbabwe and Zimbabwe. Rwanda and the Congo 819 00:47:49,769 --> 00:47:52,649 have dropped off the news map. Oops that done. 820 00:47:55,170 --> 00:47:58,170 Yeah, yeah, I know. It's kind of interesting. There's been a 821 00:47:58,170 --> 00:48:01,140 couple of movement mentions here and there but it's not news 822 00:48:01,140 --> 00:48:01,740 anymore. 823 00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:06,510 Did you ever hear that? Do you ever go to our drop? Uh, no 824 00:48:06,510 --> 00:48:07,050 agenda? 825 00:48:07,530 --> 00:48:10,620 I'm looking at no actually well yeah, I do. Do you have 826 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,510 Did you hear the guy do Do you eating on air? 827 00:48:17,250 --> 00:48:18,510 Somebody sent me a link to it 828 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:20,130 was funny. 829 00:48:22,409 --> 00:48:24,779 They only eat on air once in a while. 830 00:48:24,810 --> 00:48:27,210 I didn't even hear it doesn't bother me at all. I don't hear 831 00:48:27,210 --> 00:48:30,150 it. People get so picky. I gotta you're 832 00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:34,200 you're eating he's not supposed to be eating. Fasting. 833 00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:37,169 I don't want it apparently many people find it disgusting to 834 00:48:37,169 --> 00:48:37,769 listen to 835 00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:42,990 somebody eating you know there used to be a radio personality 836 00:48:42,990 --> 00:48:45,990 that would be I forgot who it was but he was local. And he 837 00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:50,430 would this whole show was him eating just be eating during the 838 00:48:50,430 --> 00:48:54,900 entire she was a DJ and he just be eating the whole show every 839 00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:56,100 day. Hey, it's fat 840 00:48:56,100 --> 00:49:00,150 Sam with the ever buddy Hill. Oh, say here the bay you're 841 00:49:00,150 --> 00:49:04,590 doing what do you play records? What do you play records? 842 00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:07,170 Yeah, yeah. And then he drink and somebody could hear him 843 00:49:07,170 --> 00:49:10,110 sipping on a glass of something rather than you know drinking 844 00:49:10,110 --> 00:49:13,590 his coffee. It was a whole show is like then he just he just 845 00:49:13,590 --> 00:49:18,000 gets just chewing away but he'd be talking about chewing it 846 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,550 wasn't like he would you know swallow then talk he would be 847 00:49:20,730 --> 00:49:22,620 talking while he had something in his mouth chewing 848 00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:29,460 but you're reasonably pleasant eater to look at. I'll say that. 849 00:49:30,450 --> 00:49:33,180 Yeah, there are some people who just like God damn. 850 00:49:33,420 --> 00:49:36,060 Oh, yeah, there's some people are the people that some people 851 00:49:36,060 --> 00:49:38,490 that they crunch up there. They have their cheeks get all puffy 852 00:49:38,490 --> 00:49:41,490 or they just chew on one side shoe weird but there's a lot of 853 00:49:41,850 --> 00:49:45,300 when I was a good cow we always had to. I'm laughing. 854 00:49:45,630 --> 00:49:47,850 We're actually discussing this fantastic. 855 00:49:49,350 --> 00:49:51,720 Well, you ever seen it once and every once a while you here's 856 00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:53,940 another thing. You go to a restaurant that'd be like to me 857 00:49:53,940 --> 00:49:56,580 sometimes maybe a good looking woman. And then you watch her 858 00:49:56,610 --> 00:49:59,970 eating and you go oh my god, no wonder she's still single. You 859 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:07,320 She's using this thing. But the one thing that's interesting 860 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,320 about the the woman who has an oil guy sometimes but there's 861 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,480 always the women are more fascinating because they do the 862 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,900 weird stuff. And are they like just you with their front teeth? 863 00:50:15,900 --> 00:50:18,630 And you can tell, you know, just like good luck with 864 00:50:19,499 --> 00:50:23,459 the Billy MC ones. So are scratching their teeth on the 865 00:50:23,459 --> 00:50:24,899 spoon? Have you ever seen that? 866 00:50:25,980 --> 00:50:30,180 Oh, here's another great one. That's even I think it's 867 00:50:30,180 --> 00:50:35,070 grosser, it's the person again, because usually watch guys eat 868 00:50:35,070 --> 00:50:39,750 but you see these women cuz they they got a spoonful a summary or 869 00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:42,990 a fork and before putting it in their mouth, their tongue comes 870 00:50:42,990 --> 00:50:44,130 completely out. 871 00:50:44,430 --> 00:50:48,210 Go and it's not a pretty tongue. It's not a pretty tongue. Huge 872 00:50:48,210 --> 00:50:48,750 long 873 00:50:48,780 --> 00:50:52,200 tongues that come out like reptilian just makes you wonder. 874 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,710 And then the thing goes in and the tongue kind of wraps it up, 875 00:50:55,710 --> 00:50:57,930 you know, and it's easy to go oh my god, why does a tongue have 876 00:50:57,930 --> 00:51:00,480 to come out like that is to put in some food 877 00:51:00,540 --> 00:51:04,770 and it turns you off, man. You can't eat this like Ah, I'll 878 00:51:04,770 --> 00:51:06,210 never go ahead. 879 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,479 Well, I'm gonna say the one thing you have to agree with me 880 00:51:09,479 --> 00:51:11,369 on is when you see you know you're at a restaurant and you 881 00:51:11,369 --> 00:51:13,349 see somebody eating like they are they have this weird 882 00:51:13,349 --> 00:51:17,339 characteristic. It's you can't stop staring at them. 883 00:51:17,370 --> 00:51:19,860 No, no, of course not. And you know what you should do if so if 884 00:51:19,860 --> 00:51:23,700 you're if you go out to dinner John the next time and and it 885 00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:27,480 can be man or woman but woman is maybe even better. And she has 886 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,870 one of those disgusting habits. You know what you can do? Just 887 00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:35,580 love a cruise missile atom. You just Blow that bitch right out 888 00:51:35,580 --> 00:51:38,700 of the water. I'm John C, F and Devorah AK who to say Oh, what 889 00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:40,380 the hell do you think you already eat like that in front 890 00:51:40,380 --> 00:51:45,120 of me? I got a reputation. Well, the only thing you do this 891 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,550 weird, which we have discussed before is you hold your fork 892 00:51:47,550 --> 00:51:51,960 incorrectly. And it's as it is quite annoying. I'm used to it 893 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,100 now because I love 894 00:51:53,580 --> 00:51:57,000 quite annoy. You're not holding your fork in the proper British 895 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,200 sensitive things. So 896 00:51:58,199 --> 00:52:03,629 Emily Post prescribed that my mama rest her soul. My mama 897 00:52:03,689 --> 00:52:08,549 taught me how to eat properly. And how to if you're eating 898 00:52:08,549 --> 00:52:12,599 soup, then you are pushing the spoon away from you. And you 899 00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:16,559 tilt away from you not towards you away. At no point. May you 900 00:52:16,589 --> 00:52:19,739 ever drink from a soup bowl unless it has two handles on 901 00:52:19,739 --> 00:52:20,249 each side. 902 00:52:20,699 --> 00:52:22,529 Do tell it to the Japanese. 903 00:52:23,699 --> 00:52:25,739 So you're not Japanese. 904 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,490 I'm just saying tell to the Japanese Why don't you 905 00:52:30,090 --> 00:52:33,240 agree with me you hold your fork wrong. You hold it like like 906 00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:35,520 You're like a tool and die instrument like 907 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,720 hold like an American that don't hold it don't keep tilde left 908 00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:44,340 the upside down for to the thing is upside down and pointing 909 00:52:44,340 --> 00:52:48,750 toward the toward the toward China and kept in the one hand 910 00:52:48,750 --> 00:52:50,790 and never swapped back and forth. No 911 00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:53,400 you're allowed to swap you're supposed to swap according to 912 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:54,270 Emily Post. 913 00:52:54,420 --> 00:52:57,450 Well, I know but most Europeans don't tell their 914 00:52:57,449 --> 00:53:00,869 proper I'm talking about you and I This is between us too. And 915 00:53:00,869 --> 00:53:05,609 you hold your fork like you're stabbing someone to death. And 916 00:53:05,609 --> 00:53:09,659 you jam it into your usually rare whatever meat it is you 917 00:53:09,659 --> 00:53:12,869 eat. And it's really it's like a psycho thing, man. Oh my god, 918 00:53:12,869 --> 00:53:17,849 there he goes. Can't you just and by the way you can exert a 919 00:53:17,849 --> 00:53:21,629 lot more control in the proper manner I would I need to show 920 00:53:21,629 --> 00:53:23,999 you the proper manner. This is just not this is wrong. 921 00:53:26,699 --> 00:53:30,359 You mean you want me to do it the foppish way in which you do 922 00:53:30,359 --> 00:53:30,569 it. 923 00:53:31,380 --> 00:53:34,200 I would like you to see if there's an added benefit, I 924 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,230 believe you will find my manner of holding the force beneficial 925 00:53:38,070 --> 00:53:41,490 is where you have more food control. And there's a lot more 926 00:53:41,490 --> 00:53:43,200 you can do with the actual fork. 927 00:53:43,710 --> 00:53:49,140 You have you describe me as sitting there ham fisted? That's 928 00:53:49,140 --> 00:53:55,680 exactly what with a grip around the formula. What you do, you 929 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:56,820 got a cab 930 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:04,020 comes to the dead chainsaw. Clunk jabs it in again. And then 931 00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:06,840 it's kind of like weird how it then turns you have to turn your 932 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,290 whole arm to get it into your mouth because you can't point it 933 00:54:10,290 --> 00:54:13,020 properly because you're not using the tool the way it was 934 00:54:13,020 --> 00:54:14,280 meant to be implemented. 935 00:54:14,639 --> 00:54:18,899 This is nonsense. I believe our audience right the time here's 936 00:54:18,899 --> 00:54:21,539 the deal. One time I had something it was just like 937 00:54:21,539 --> 00:54:24,449 something I needed to like really forced into this thing 938 00:54:24,449 --> 00:54:28,829 because it was conference. Your eyes bugged open, because you're 939 00:54:29,009 --> 00:54:32,009 normally just looking at your plate gobbling things down and 940 00:54:32,009 --> 00:54:33,449 not paying much attention to me. 941 00:54:33,780 --> 00:54:36,450 So you saw it because you make me nauseous when you're when 942 00:54:36,450 --> 00:54:38,100 you're calling you're murdering your 943 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,960 you just bug eyed your hair stood up and you went oh my god, 944 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,360 what are you doing? And I said this thing you know is gonna 945 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,120 slide off the plate if I don't do this and you wouldn't have 946 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,770 been preoccupied with it ever since. 947 00:54:50,370 --> 00:54:54,360 It was the first time we ever ate. I saw it and I went oh God, 948 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,700 but I'm not rude. You know? It's like a first date. I'm not gonna 949 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:57,870 you mentioned 950 00:54:57,870 --> 00:54:59,970 it on the spot. What are you kidding me the second 951 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,830 A conjoined with this for me, it was, it was the first day. I 952 00:55:04,830 --> 00:55:07,320 wasn't looking to get laid. I'm like, I gotta I gotta tell them 953 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,140 because it'll just bugged me. It's like, like someone has food 954 00:55:10,140 --> 00:55:13,080 on their, on their cheek. You know, if you don't say it, 955 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,630 you're a dick because they need just looking at the piece, like 956 00:55:15,660 --> 00:55:16,800 fall off, make that 957 00:55:21,780 --> 00:55:23,430 you see it every once in a while, you say, well, maybe 958 00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:27,150 it'll just fall off your mouth. That's 959 00:55:27,149 --> 00:55:29,909 wrong, man. You just gotta say it because you're wasting 960 00:55:29,909 --> 00:55:34,079 valuable time and space by waiting for food to fall off. So 961 00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:35,069 I just said, 962 00:55:35,490 --> 00:55:38,880 I think it's a timing thing with the food on the face. I think 963 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,650 you can't just say it immediately. 964 00:55:40,889 --> 00:55:44,099 Like Like, you slob you deck, I can't believe that you just 965 00:55:44,129 --> 00:55:45,809 shove that all over your face. 966 00:55:46,889 --> 00:55:49,619 So you have to wait. There's, there's a there's a period of 967 00:55:49,619 --> 00:55:53,129 it. There's a waiting period that's involved with calling 968 00:55:53,129 --> 00:55:55,769 people and telling them that they get some chunk of food on 969 00:55:55,980 --> 00:55:59,370 what would you do? Is that based upon the conversation at hand? 970 00:55:59,370 --> 00:56:05,430 Or is that based upon actual seconds and or minutes? I love 971 00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:07,890 it the most when it when it happens in a meeting. And the 972 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,910 and the person who's speaking has something on their face. And 973 00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:14,790 you just and I just start I'm like, I wait, I don't say it 974 00:56:14,790 --> 00:56:17,850 anymore. Like who's gonna say at first who's gonna say because 975 00:56:17,850 --> 00:56:21,300 you know, with Ron, we've been we've been in business so so 976 00:56:21,300 --> 00:56:25,170 long that sometimes I'll say dude, score a frickin tic tac 977 00:56:25,170 --> 00:56:28,590 you smell like death out of your out of your beak. This is 978 00:56:28,590 --> 00:56:31,800 horrible. And he knows it. And you know, so I can just get and 979 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,370 I actually carry peppermints for the poor man. But other people 980 00:56:36,060 --> 00:56:39,300 they won't say this, you know, they just sit in a whole meeting 981 00:56:39,300 --> 00:56:42,030 room for five minutes and wait and everyone's sitting there 982 00:56:42,030 --> 00:56:44,820 like they're not listening to what someone has to say. They're 983 00:56:44,820 --> 00:56:48,450 like they're thinking you better drop off the crumb has to drop 984 00:56:48,450 --> 00:56:50,370 off oh my god, I can't look as a chrome 985 00:56:51,570 --> 00:56:55,470 Well, on the bad breath issue ever run into these guys. 986 00:56:56,219 --> 00:56:58,799 You're so many seconds for the for the brush. 987 00:57:00,270 --> 00:57:05,280 It's like there's the the there's there's different kinds 988 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,800 of you know, these guys with cigar breath and that some other 989 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:12,150 some sort of deep lung problem they've got so every show within 990 00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:13,020 about a two foot 991 00:57:13,260 --> 00:57:15,540 well, their, their sphincter doesn't close properly. That's 992 00:57:15,540 --> 00:57:18,270 what I know a lot about this by chance, but your that's your 993 00:57:18,300 --> 00:57:20,910 your sphincter as it's called in your throat, you have another 994 00:57:20,910 --> 00:57:25,830 sphincter. And that just doesn't close properly. And so basically 995 00:57:25,830 --> 00:57:29,310 your stomach acid is just kind of, you know, letting loose into 996 00:57:29,310 --> 00:57:30,930 the air out of your head. 997 00:57:32,639 --> 00:57:36,269 Is that right? Yeah. I never heard this. Oh, man. I do not 998 00:57:36,269 --> 00:57:38,849 have many people that have this kind of problem. And it's like 999 00:57:38,849 --> 00:57:42,479 this. And so the end, the worst ones are the ones who are close 1000 00:57:42,479 --> 00:57:43,139 talkers. 1001 00:57:43,230 --> 00:57:46,800 Oh, and they lean up right to you. Hey, that's why No, that's 1002 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,000 why I never go to a concert. 1003 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,390 And you have to kind of turn your head because it's like, Oh, 1004 00:57:51,390 --> 00:57:53,760 yeah. And hold your breath is just horrible. Yeah. And 1005 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,340 they're, you know, they have they have to be real close. And 1006 00:57:56,340 --> 00:57:58,800 then if you back away into the worst kind of works close 1007 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,410 targets, as if you back off like I don't want you to just close 1008 00:58:01,410 --> 00:58:03,960 to me when you're talking and then they move over. Move in. 1009 00:58:03,990 --> 00:58:06,600 Yeah. They can take a hint. 1010 00:58:06,989 --> 00:58:09,449 How many seconds? John before you have to tell someone they 1011 00:58:09,449 --> 00:58:14,189 have a chrome on their face. Kevin, go 1515. Okay, that's not 1012 00:58:14,189 --> 00:58:17,609 too bad. Unless they're talking, but you don't interrupt them to 1013 00:58:17,609 --> 00:58:18,059 say, hey, 1014 00:58:18,750 --> 00:58:21,390 now you can do you can do the motion thing where you push the 1015 00:58:21,390 --> 00:58:24,690 motion to get him with a anxious look. And then you point at some 1016 00:58:24,690 --> 00:58:28,320 part of their body, your own face, like that. And then again, 1017 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,370 coach, they always go to the 1018 00:58:29,370 --> 00:58:32,430 wrong side that way, because they immediately go to the wrong 1019 00:58:32,430 --> 00:58:36,660 side of the face. Exactly. I think we should have a code word 1020 00:58:36,660 --> 00:58:37,080 for it. 1021 00:58:39,300 --> 00:58:40,170 Chrome alert. 1022 00:58:42,210 --> 00:58:45,000 We really need that now Crumpler does not good enough. 1023 00:58:47,610 --> 00:58:49,830 So when you're in the Middle East, by the way, everybody's a 1024 00:58:49,830 --> 00:58:50,670 close talker. 1025 00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:57,390 This is why I go to very few concerts and nightclubs. Because 1026 00:58:57,390 --> 00:59:01,770 of people leaning into either smell of a puke. And the worst, 1027 00:59:01,770 --> 00:59:07,410 of course, is women who smell like puke. Be alcohol. See, as 1028 00:59:07,410 --> 00:59:11,190 you say, cigars, particularly backstage, at concerts, because 1029 00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:13,590 everyone Yeah, well used to be that way. You can't smoke 1030 00:59:13,590 --> 00:59:16,200 anywhere these days. But as always, the executives are 1031 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,470 always smoking cigars, its tanks. And because it's so 1032 00:59:19,470 --> 00:59:23,250 noisy, they have to come in close like and by the way, when 1033 00:59:23,250 --> 00:59:28,140 you are talking to someone at a concert, and of course you come 1034 00:59:28,140 --> 00:59:33,420 very close to their ear. Please do not shout. It is sufficient 1035 00:59:33,420 --> 00:59:37,320 to you may even put your lips on my ear. As long as you speak in 1036 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:42,150 a normal voice when you shout. You are making me deaf. And then 1037 00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:44,250 this happened. And that's why don't go because people always 1038 00:59:44,250 --> 00:59:46,560 want to come up and say something to me, like, you know, 1039 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:54,810 go have you noticed, by the way, John, that if you've been to the 1040 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:59,160 countries in the Middle East, right, yeah. And but also a 1041 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,840 little you get to You know, if you look at Pakistan, but a lot 1042 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:08,220 of the Middle Eastern countries, why is it that their audio when 1043 01:00:08,220 --> 01:00:10,770 they have either a radio broadcast or a television 1044 01:00:10,770 --> 01:00:13,200 broadcast? Why is it always over modulated? 1045 01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:17,549 It's either Oh yeah, it's over modulated and often sounds like 1046 01:00:17,549 --> 01:00:19,109 they're in a bucket. So let's get 1047 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,160 to exactly what you run into that it's not just here, but you 1048 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,590 run it that in Mexican, Mexican 1049 01:00:31,950 --> 01:00:32,700 there, it's there. It's 1050 01:00:34,020 --> 01:00:43,470 a bunker, bunker. I know they're always shouting, why but what it 1051 01:00:43,470 --> 01:00:46,410 is, but it's actually over modulated microphone, you don't 1052 01:00:46,410 --> 01:00:47,520 need to shout. 1053 01:00:47,550 --> 01:00:49,650 But it's actually over modulated? I mean, it is 1054 01:00:49,650 --> 01:00:52,710 technically in the red, you know, it's where it should not 1055 01:00:52,710 --> 01:00:56,220 be because it's distorted. Is that just like they said that 1056 01:00:56,220 --> 01:00:59,100 their sound they like it, they think that the signal will reach 1057 01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:01,500 further maybe if they if they shout louder? 1058 01:01:02,429 --> 01:01:05,429 Well, they have you know, in throughout the Middle East, they 1059 01:01:05,429 --> 01:01:09,629 have called to prayer throughout today, from these from these 1060 01:01:09,629 --> 01:01:14,459 large mosque speakers on the mosques, they have these spires 1061 01:01:14,459 --> 01:01:17,009 that go way up, and then they have them loaded. By the way, I 1062 01:01:17,009 --> 01:01:20,189 wonder, I would like a Muslim to explain to me because they're, 1063 01:01:20,219 --> 01:01:22,769 you know, you're supposed to not change certain things that after 1064 01:01:22,769 --> 01:01:25,379 the Quran was written and all this other kind of stuff. And 1065 01:01:25,379 --> 01:01:27,629 there's all these rules and regulations when it well, where 1066 01:01:27,629 --> 01:01:31,709 does it? Where is it in the Qur'an that you can use, you 1067 01:01:31,709 --> 01:01:36,329 know, 10,000 watts of amplification speakers, because 1068 01:01:36,329 --> 01:01:38,429 they used to go up there apparently, and give the call to 1069 01:01:38,429 --> 01:01:42,809 prayer. Very funny sound. I mean, it's not funny, it's just 1070 01:01:43,019 --> 01:01:46,199 funny, pleasant. It's something about you know, you're in the 1071 01:01:46,199 --> 01:01:48,269 Middle East, let's put that way because they all start cranking 1072 01:01:48,269 --> 01:01:50,579 up about the same time. And they all compete with each other. 1073 01:01:50,579 --> 01:01:53,339 Somebody explained it to me that the bid and they started loading 1074 01:01:53,339 --> 01:01:56,309 up with amplifiers and speakers. And so they go up there or they 1075 01:01:56,309 --> 01:01:58,139 don't go up there anymore. They just get to the on the 1076 01:01:58,139 --> 01:02:02,189 microphone, and start, you know, chanting, and then the next guy 1077 01:02:02,189 --> 01:02:05,189 down the next mosque down the road, he starts he tries to be 1078 01:02:05,189 --> 01:02:08,399 louder, because he wants you know, to be heard over the other 1079 01:02:08,399 --> 01:02:12,179 guy, and then the show about so there's a cacophony a number of 1080 01:02:12,179 --> 01:02:17,219 times a day, five or six times a day, whatever. Usually, you just 1081 01:02:17,219 --> 01:02:20,009 all happens at once. And it's just everybody's screaming at 1082 01:02:20,009 --> 01:02:23,729 the top of their lungs and these speaker systems, and it's 1083 01:02:23,729 --> 01:02:26,669 totally distorted because they've got them turned up all 1084 01:02:26,669 --> 01:02:29,399 the way. And I think it's the sound they've gotten used to 1085 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,660 the most prized possession I have from my trip to Iraq during 1086 01:02:33,660 --> 01:02:38,790 the war in 2003. Is you see him around now because of course so 1087 01:02:38,790 --> 01:02:41,670 many DJI eyes have been in and out and in that you can buy 1088 01:02:41,670 --> 01:02:45,000 these things almost everywhere in every market place every 1089 01:02:45,390 --> 01:02:50,820 every town. It's a plastic alarm clock. And it is a I'm gonna say 1090 01:02:50,820 --> 01:02:56,160 it's about three quarters of a foot long and it's a mosque and 1091 01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:00,570 you set the alarm and when and when the alarm goes. Instead of 1092 01:03:00,930 --> 01:03:04,710 the ring that we in in the West might be used to the lights pop 1093 01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:05,130 on 1094 01:03:10,889 --> 01:03:14,879 and it's my favourite my favourite trinket that I brought 1095 01:03:14,879 --> 01:03:15,659 back from Iraq 1096 01:03:15,689 --> 01:03:18,839 Yes, not bad enough that when you're in one of these cities 1097 01:03:18,839 --> 01:03:23,159 with the you know, 500 mosques all cranking out the call for 1098 01:03:23,159 --> 01:03:25,859 prayer at the same time as loud as they can that you'd have a 1099 01:03:25,859 --> 01:03:28,439 clock to do it inside that was 1100 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,500 made in China. I might point that makes 1101 01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:37,290 sense. Yeah. But they have Yeah, it's it's anyways, this is just 1102 01:03:37,410 --> 01:03:42,660 it gets very noisy. But you know, the funny some of those 1103 01:03:42,660 --> 01:03:44,820 guys can really hate it. There actually are some Yeah, I've 1104 01:03:44,820 --> 01:03:47,430 heard some of these guys actually have they're very 1105 01:03:47,430 --> 01:03:52,260 pleasant voices. It's very, it's a very melodic screaming, but 1106 01:03:52,260 --> 01:03:54,510 some of these guys wow, that's kind of cool. I should record 1107 01:03:54,510 --> 01:03:59,160 that. But it's echoey it's distorted often. 1108 01:03:59,969 --> 01:04:03,839 The distortion bit just always kills me. Like yeah, no, I just 1109 01:04:05,250 --> 01:04:07,800 I don't get it either. I don't know why they you know, can't 1110 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:09,180 tie it down. I 1111 01:04:09,180 --> 01:04:12,180 think that they like it. They're like Hey, that sounds good. 1112 01:04:12,210 --> 01:04:14,280 Yeah, the sound engineers go hey, man, dude, you had some 1113 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,520 awesome sound yesterday on your show. It was really cool. I'm 1114 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:17,970 telling you. 1115 01:04:19,020 --> 01:04:22,380 i That's what my thinking was when I you know because of these 1116 01:04:22,380 --> 01:04:24,000 call for prayers all being distorted. 1117 01:04:24,030 --> 01:04:28,590 Speaking of that, did you see this thing the oh, I want to say 1118 01:04:28,590 --> 01:04:34,500 it's the Kareena and I forgotten the name. It's an iPhone app 1119 01:04:35,070 --> 01:04:40,410 that is on the iPhone store. And you hold the iPhone up with the 1120 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:44,220 glass touchscreen side up you hold it between two between your 1121 01:04:44,430 --> 01:04:47,310 thumbs and your four fingers very much like you like you're 1122 01:04:47,310 --> 01:04:50,880 getting ready to eat a sandwich and you blow into the 1123 01:04:50,910 --> 01:04:54,960 microphone. And then it has basically four keys of course 1124 01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,130 they're virtual on top. 1125 01:04:56,490 --> 01:04:59,610 They actually we blog site doing Stairway to Heaven. 1126 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,090 exact maybe I saw it on your site. Yeah. Oh, man, that thing 1127 01:05:03,090 --> 01:05:03,900 is awesome. 1128 01:05:05,069 --> 01:05:07,949 blowing on a microphone is not such a great idea. 1129 01:05:08,969 --> 01:05:14,519 But but the instrument it looks it's a real it's a space age 1130 01:05:14,549 --> 01:05:18,509 cool type instrument. I mean, it's, it's for me that was like, 1131 01:05:18,839 --> 01:05:21,089 I don't know, I just It blew me away. I'm like, wow, that's a 1132 01:05:21,089 --> 01:05:24,029 really interesting instrument they've created. They're out of 1133 01:05:24,029 --> 01:05:24,719 an iPhone. 1134 01:05:25,050 --> 01:05:29,070 Yes. Amazing. That platform is just astonishing. So I went to 1135 01:05:29,070 --> 01:05:33,510 cost talking about platforms. So I went to Costco yesterday to 1136 01:05:33,510 --> 01:05:38,280 get something. And so I go past the you know, I'm always when 1137 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,620 you go to Costco, you first thing you do is you go, and you 1138 01:05:40,620 --> 01:05:44,940 look at all the flat screens, and you go, Huh, and you and 1139 01:05:44,970 --> 01:05:50,250 they have actually the 42 inch plasma from Panasonic, on sale 1140 01:05:50,250 --> 01:05:54,870 for 699 bucks. And I remember when the first 42 inch plasma 1141 01:05:54,870 --> 01:06:00,540 was shown at a CES show, gotta know 15 years ago or 10 years or 1142 01:06:00,540 --> 01:06:04,650 whatever, some time back. They were $40,000. 1143 01:06:05,699 --> 01:06:09,269 Yeah, and this was maybe only five years ago, I think 1144 01:06:09,270 --> 01:06:12,450 was a while I think we're we're we're under estimating the 1145 01:06:12,450 --> 01:06:16,620 timeframe, but it was, it was a $40,000 because you'd asked him 1146 01:06:16,620 --> 01:06:18,630 well, then you know, we only make a few that 40,000 bucks. 1147 01:06:18,630 --> 01:06:21,450 And these were the 42 inch because at original plasmas are 1148 01:06:21,450 --> 01:06:24,750 only 42 inch, and then they got bigger. So he so now I'm looking 1149 01:06:24,750 --> 01:06:27,780 at the exact same technology probably improved quite a bit 1150 01:06:27,900 --> 01:06:33,270 for 699 bucks. Wow, I know. It's amazing. But anyway, so. So 1151 01:06:33,270 --> 01:06:36,300 there's that I still think a 50 is about the size I wouldn't 1152 01:06:36,300 --> 01:06:39,990 mind having. Anyway, so the I go around the corner and they have 1153 01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:43,350 all these laptops for sale. And we just did a thing on cranky 1154 01:06:43,350 --> 01:06:46,290 geeks complaining about you know how Apple's overpricing their 1155 01:06:46,290 --> 01:06:49,080 laptops and down economy, they're gonna probably, you 1156 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,800 know, it's gonna it's gonna hurt the company. And they were you 1157 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,020 know, they're gonna know what these things are selling for the 1158 01:06:55,020 --> 01:06:57,210 apples because they didn't have any there but there there was a 1159 01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:58,140 credible 1160 01:06:58,919 --> 01:07:01,289 let me let me let me guess the price. Let me guess the price? 1161 01:07:01,289 --> 01:07:01,679 Well, let me 1162 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,020 describe the machine person and you tell me the price. All 1163 01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:09,540 right, it was a credible 15 and a half inch full keyboard full 1164 01:07:09,540 --> 01:07:14,640 screen beautiful machine with 250 gigabyte hard drive. But 1165 01:07:14,670 --> 01:07:17,940 double DDR memory. It was a gateway. And it was just it was 1166 01:07:18,060 --> 01:07:19,230 it was like if you're gonna buy 1167 01:07:19,230 --> 01:07:22,680 a laptop, what's the processor speed processor speed it we had 1168 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:23,280 a dual core 1169 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,220 some it was fat. It was fast. Yeah, I bet didn't have the 1170 01:07:26,220 --> 01:07:27,420 exact speed on there. 1171 01:07:27,420 --> 01:07:30,390 But So this obviously does not qualify as a netbook, which is 1172 01:07:30,390 --> 01:07:32,580 what everyone's talking about. Not it's not a netbook they had 1173 01:07:32,580 --> 01:07:37,410 netbooks there, too. I'll say I'll say a 299. No, well, that's 1174 01:07:37,410 --> 01:07:37,740 Well, 1175 01:07:37,739 --> 01:07:41,729 that would be nice. No, it's 599. And I thought it was for 1176 01:07:41,729 --> 01:07:46,469 the, for the machine for what it was. And it also was a good had 1177 01:07:46,739 --> 01:07:50,129 kind of an enamelled bread case. It was gorgeous. Yeah. And it 1178 01:07:50,129 --> 01:07:51,119 was fine. Yeah, 1179 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,430 no, I've seen these. These are the ones that are the you can 1180 01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:56,250 get in all kinds of different colours. Yeah, yeah, no, there's 1181 01:07:56,250 --> 01:07:58,860 a big push for this. They're they're advertising them all 1182 01:07:58,860 --> 01:08:02,760 over the UK. I think it's really, really pushing a younger 1183 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,820 market did it seem like that from the store model and 1184 01:08:06,389 --> 01:08:08,639 just had them all lined up? It wasn't, you know, they weren't 1185 01:08:08,669 --> 01:08:11,189 doing anything fancier than that. But I mean, the more 1186 01:08:11,189 --> 01:08:14,669 expensive ones were like 899. And they were loaded. And they 1187 01:08:14,669 --> 01:08:17,489 did have a netbook there. And the netbook was 399 It wasn't 1188 01:08:17,489 --> 01:08:19,829 299. But they had a net book for three night, which was you could 1189 01:08:19,829 --> 01:08:25,949 actually use it had a little it was little, but I'm thinking 599 1190 01:08:26,399 --> 01:08:28,559 For this laptop was like, wow, 1191 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,130 I stood in line for three hours for the 1192 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:36,720 for the Google phone. And that was a little throwback to you, 1193 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:37,170 my dear. 1194 01:08:39,779 --> 01:08:41,879 You made a joke on tech five about that? 1195 01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,929 I did. Yeah. Oh, but people standing in line knots standing 1196 01:08:45,929 --> 01:08:46,859 in line for the Google phone. 1197 01:08:47,099 --> 01:08:49,319 Anyway, so I got the Google phone. And what I'm most 1198 01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:51,929 impressed with, it's useless as a phone that it made. It's no 1199 01:08:51,929 --> 01:08:54,119 battery life has a whole bunch of things really wrong with it. 1200 01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:55,859 But the operating system. 1201 01:08:57,810 --> 01:08:59,610 Interesting. Boy, 1202 01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:04,649 well, if my understanding is that the Android operating 1203 01:09:04,649 --> 01:09:08,729 system is open source, right. And which means that gates 1204 01:09:08,729 --> 01:09:12,449 transportable that seems to me like a fantastic operating 1205 01:09:12,449 --> 01:09:17,699 system for. Net, let's just call it net devices. Could be a net 1206 01:09:17,699 --> 01:09:22,769 book or anything. Just I was pleasantly surprised by how much 1207 01:09:22,769 --> 01:09:25,199 I could have got actually get done with the operating system. 1208 01:09:27,089 --> 01:09:31,229 And take into account if you well, really, anything I would 1209 01:09:31,229 --> 01:09:34,109 do on a computer because of the integration with the Google 1210 01:09:34,109 --> 01:09:37,949 services. So okay, so you know, I needed to create a Word 1211 01:09:37,949 --> 01:09:40,379 document, you know, even though I know you're not a big fan of 1212 01:09:40,379 --> 01:09:43,229 cloud computing, but I can see certainly, in fact, the other 1213 01:09:43,229 --> 01:09:46,439 day I don't use Google Docs very often if at all, but I didn't 1214 01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,229 have my computer with me. So fired up a browser and open up a 1215 01:09:49,229 --> 01:09:51,719 Google Word doc and you know, saved it and it was quite 1216 01:09:51,719 --> 01:09:54,749 convenient for for the point that I was using it which is, 1217 01:09:54,899 --> 01:09:58,679 you know, not like real office, share document type stuff, which 1218 01:09:58,679 --> 01:10:02,819 is what office three maintains, and links and integration etc. 1219 01:10:02,819 --> 01:10:06,479 But just to write something, and I could see how the Android 1220 01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:13,019 operating system would fulfil the needs of maybe as high as 1221 01:10:13,019 --> 01:10:17,069 90% of all computer users, you know, you take all that, well, 1222 01:10:17,099 --> 01:10:19,709 consumer computer users, let's put it that way. Well, the thing 1223 01:10:19,710 --> 01:10:23,670 is, you know, design I mean, this is they realise that this 1224 01:10:23,670 --> 01:10:26,400 is a platform. So yeah, it could it could happen when we we can 1225 01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,140 transition this sort of thing. 1226 01:10:28,740 --> 01:10:32,790 I wouldn't mind it just as if I had a little netbook type thing 1227 01:10:32,790 --> 01:10:34,680 that I carried around. This is the kind of stuff I would want 1228 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,290 it to do. I really would I don't want to I saw what happened with 1229 01:10:37,290 --> 01:10:40,470 Windows smaller, because I had we knew I had that god awful 1230 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:45,750 smartphone for a day, which I gave back to Chris Cravens 1231 01:10:45,750 --> 01:10:51,150 crying. So please don't make me do this again. So making window 1232 01:10:51,150 --> 01:10:55,680 smaller, literally smaller in execution space or whatever, as 1233 01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,590 well as display just doesn't work. It needs something that's 1234 01:10:58,590 --> 01:11:01,050 built from a different mindset. And I think they've got 1235 01:11:01,050 --> 01:11:02,700 something going on there. I was impressed. 1236 01:11:03,420 --> 01:11:06,690 Well, good. Steve Ballmer came out and said that it was a dead 1237 01:11:06,690 --> 01:11:08,760 end. And it was they could never make any money. 1238 01:11:08,910 --> 01:11:11,430 Because it's an operating system. He doesn't want people 1239 01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:12,960 to replace his operating system. 1240 01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:17,430 Apparently not. Maybe he should replace his operating system. 1241 01:11:17,430 --> 01:11:21,120 That's what I'm thinking. So but anyway, so the phone Yeah, I 1242 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,310 haven't heard any, nobody's buying these phones. I mean, you 1243 01:11:23,310 --> 01:11:26,040 know, I think the phone has potential, it may may sneak up 1244 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,580 on Apple. But it's almost like a replay of the history of the 1245 01:11:29,580 --> 01:11:33,270 computing business almost like a fractal. We have like Apple 1246 01:11:33,270 --> 01:11:37,530 coming out with like to do with the Apple two, with a new device 1247 01:11:37,530 --> 01:11:40,860 that is a in this case, the opera you have kind of a 1248 01:11:40,860 --> 01:11:44,160 computer nook, tablet, computer, a new platform, the iPhone, and 1249 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,040 they, you know, kind of own the place for a while. And then the 1250 01:11:47,070 --> 01:11:51,090 guy, you know, the PC mentality comes along, they're more open 1251 01:11:51,090 --> 01:11:53,550 and less rigid, you know what to sell through the Apple Store? 1252 01:11:53,730 --> 01:11:55,680 All the advantages, you know, you just need a couple of 1253 01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,820 credit, you just need one or two, you know, killer apps. In 1254 01:11:59,820 --> 01:12:03,420 other words, something that in the case of the apple two, it 1255 01:12:03,420 --> 01:12:06,300 was dominated when it first came out with VisiCalc made the apple 1256 01:12:06,300 --> 01:12:09,600 two and started the personal computer revolution. And as soon 1257 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:13,860 as Lotus 123 showed up on the PC, the whole everything 1258 01:12:13,860 --> 01:12:14,550 shifted. 1259 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:18,990 Yeah, I had jazz that those guys, there's 1260 01:12:19,110 --> 01:12:23,250 jazz and symphony. Yeah, those guys got denied. But jazz was 1261 01:12:23,310 --> 01:12:24,600 also done by Lotus. 1262 01:12:26,189 --> 01:12:27,929 Huh? You're right. 1263 01:12:29,970 --> 01:12:35,220 I remember when we took our company public in 1996 was a 1264 01:12:35,220 --> 01:12:40,320 huge problem, because the entire legal and financial system would 1265 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:46,290 only work with WordPerfect 4.1. And it has to do with the 1266 01:12:46,290 --> 01:12:49,920 formatting. And of course, we were all on Windows 95 and 1267 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:54,480 office 95. And, and the amount of time and subsequently money 1268 01:12:54,480 --> 01:13:00,780 that was spent on transcoding documents from an office format 1269 01:13:00,780 --> 01:13:04,980 to a word perfect format was hundreds of 1000s I'm convinced 1270 01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,840 goodly transcoding is a problem that's never gonna go away. I 1271 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,760 mean, we have to do that with our data. We're putting our 1272 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,750 stuff on like CDs and that's I mean, I'm still have so I'd be 1273 01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:18,180 everyone's who I find some old CD. Oh, I forgot I even had 1274 01:13:18,180 --> 01:13:20,730 this. It was a backup of something. Put it into a worried 1275 01:13:20,730 --> 01:13:20,910 Yeah, 1276 01:13:20,969 --> 01:13:25,709 I have tapes. I have our wedding tapes. I have many, many 1277 01:13:25,709 --> 01:13:29,789 television shows. You know, they're all on us VHS or worse. 1278 01:13:30,299 --> 01:13:33,089 You know, I have some on U Matic. I even have foreign two 1279 01:13:33,089 --> 01:13:36,629 inch and four inch BNC reels. This is you can't find players 1280 01:13:36,629 --> 01:13:37,409 for him anymore. 1281 01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,740 Right. I know, everyone's scrambling to get those old 1282 01:13:40,740 --> 01:13:43,560 Ampex. There's only a few those Ampex, you know. 1283 01:13:45,750 --> 01:13:49,470 Yeah, the two inch forehead machines. I used to, I used to 1284 01:13:49,470 --> 01:13:52,710 calibrate those and they taught me how to do it. As you say, you 1285 01:13:52,710 --> 01:13:55,170 put your tape on you get your bars up, right and you get your 1286 01:13:55,170 --> 01:13:58,170 scope going because you had to calibrate it on an oscilloscope. 1287 01:13:58,500 --> 01:14:01,680 And then you actually had to kick the machine bottom left, 1288 01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:05,010 just a little like tap there and then you started moving the 1289 01:14:05,010 --> 01:14:07,740 knobs and it worked and that's how you calibrated them 1290 01:14:08,939 --> 01:14:11,369 delete one of the probably were the last few guys that can do 1291 01:14:11,369 --> 01:14:11,759 that. 1292 01:14:11,850 --> 01:14:14,280 And here's something I was talking about the guys that are 1293 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,670 studio with me vo headquarters the other day. They were like, 1294 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,400 you know, shining lights around and moving stuff and was shining 1295 01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,310 into the camera. And I said you know there was a day when if you 1296 01:14:23,310 --> 01:14:25,860 did that if you shone a light into the camera, you will 1297 01:14:25,860 --> 01:14:28,650 probably have a camera operator come up to you and hit you in 1298 01:14:28,650 --> 01:14:32,760 the face with a fist. You write down your throat because it 1299 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,020 would burn into 1300 01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:37,830 the actual tube to vidicon tubes. Yeah. 1301 01:14:38,010 --> 01:14:41,430 And we had a guy whose job he was called the shader member 1302 01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:45,150 those the shader the shade. No, but I know what they did. Yeah, 1303 01:14:45,150 --> 01:14:47,640 the shader would sit in the control room, along with a 1304 01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,190 vision mixer, as they call it then and the director and the 1305 01:14:50,190 --> 01:14:53,220 assistant director and the audio engineer and the tape ops, or 1306 01:14:53,220 --> 01:14:56,130 sometimes tape ops were in a separate compartment and the 1307 01:14:56,130 --> 01:15:00,420 shader would have let's say you had five or six cameras And he 1308 01:15:00,420 --> 01:15:03,690 would have all of these almost like throttles on on an 1309 01:15:03,690 --> 01:15:07,530 aeroplane or a ship, these big controls, and he would sit there 1310 01:15:07,530 --> 01:15:10,770 and he would be continuously making the light level he would 1311 01:15:10,770 --> 01:15:14,430 be shading the cameras so that you didn't have one, all of a 1312 01:15:14,430 --> 01:15:16,620 sudden it was really light and the other one was really dark. 1313 01:15:16,740 --> 01:15:19,740 And also, you know, he would protect as much as he could all 1314 01:15:19,740 --> 01:15:24,330 the other equipment from a big light burst back in 1315 01:15:25,290 --> 01:15:28,560 that during that era, that's a Christian they had a, you know, 1316 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,440 before we came with CCD technology, which doesn't have 1317 01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:31,980 this burden, 1318 01:15:31,979 --> 01:15:34,649 what Ron said was chips, it was like, Oh, my gosh, we can you 1319 01:15:34,649 --> 01:15:37,919 know, we can do concerts, and we could go back in the day, you 1320 01:15:37,949 --> 01:15:41,159 you can still probably rent old contracts where you see a camera 1321 01:15:41,159 --> 01:15:44,819 move across the lights, and then for at least 15 or 20 seconds, 1322 01:15:44,819 --> 01:15:47,969 you'll still see the trails of the lights in the in the video. 1323 01:15:48,420 --> 01:15:51,120 And the tube. Yeah, I know it's a real problem. But did that's 1324 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:55,950 where the idea of you can't wear white shirts. That's right. So 1325 01:15:55,950 --> 01:15:59,040 you all you can't wear a white shirt, you have to wear a blue 1326 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,290 shirt. And people should notice that most people still believe 1327 01:16:01,290 --> 01:16:04,950 this is true. But in fact, you can wear a white shirt. Well, 1328 01:16:04,980 --> 01:16:08,340 let me let me just change that it does, it does change the 1329 01:16:08,340 --> 01:16:10,620 aperture sometimes because a lot of this stuff is automated. But 1330 01:16:10,890 --> 01:16:13,890 let me just let me just jump in that for one second. We were 1331 01:16:13,890 --> 01:16:18,390 watching the MTV European music awards two days ago, Kanye West 1332 01:16:18,390 --> 01:16:21,750 who always has to have some big production number. They they put 1333 01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:24,750 down some note their ballet floor, which was it was a kind 1334 01:16:24,750 --> 01:16:27,810 of in the centre of the audience stage was black the whole 1335 01:16:27,810 --> 01:16:31,140 evening, they roll out a white ballet floor. He came out 1336 01:16:31,230 --> 01:16:35,070 completely dressed in white except for a black tie from head 1337 01:16:35,070 --> 01:16:38,760 to toe. And he had white shoes on. He looked like a floating 1338 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:43,800 head. It was the funniest thing is sometimes you I mean, if 1339 01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,290 you're doing white on white, it doesn't work. I don't care what 1340 01:16:46,290 --> 01:16:46,800 you say. 1341 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,920 Yeah, no, I'm sure you've done. I don't recommend people wear 1342 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,160 white. I'm just saying you can do it. But in the olden days, if 1343 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:57,720 you were white, you'd burn out to tube flare. The other problem 1344 01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,380 is, you know, white, and there's still illegal colours that seem 1345 01:17:01,380 --> 01:17:05,070 to have issues with even when the CCDs are called illegal. And 1346 01:17:05,070 --> 01:17:08,730 there's a red that you can't use because it flares it doesn't it 1347 01:17:08,730 --> 01:17:11,880 won't your camera can't focus on it. And it says, And the problem 1348 01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,120 with some of these reds is they have a and you'll see this if 1349 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:19,650 you look at Chapman actually call it a flare, fuzzy edge. 1350 01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:24,810 They call it a flare. And it does still occur. Usually on 1351 01:17:24,810 --> 01:17:28,320 location shoots when the sun is coming from a weird angle and 1352 01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,260 they have of course has all colours of it in the in the 1353 01:17:31,260 --> 01:17:34,320 light spectrum. And you get a flare and then you have to block 1354 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:35,460 block it off somehow. 1355 01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:39,810 But yeah, in the olden days, yeah, you're right. These guys 1356 01:17:39,810 --> 01:17:43,050 were not happy when you put a light in the camera, 1357 01:17:43,110 --> 01:17:46,590 though, they would literally knock your teeth out. Because 1358 01:17:46,590 --> 01:17:47,850 they were responsible for it. 1359 01:17:49,530 --> 01:17:52,560 So that's our old debt. Ladies and gentlemen, is our old time 1360 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:53,790 broadcasting anecdote. 1361 01:17:53,849 --> 01:17:57,839 Well, I've got plenty more. But it was fun because I literally 1362 01:17:57,839 --> 01:18:01,049 Trent you were probably around when they still had three or 1363 01:18:01,049 --> 01:18:04,559 four lenses on the camera and would twist them. Instead of 1364 01:18:04,559 --> 01:18:06,659 zooming. Tell me it's not true. It wasn't 1365 01:18:06,660 --> 01:18:12,600 on TV, then my wife, Patricia was actually when I was a little 1366 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:18,720 kid in Chicago, I would go to WG and I believe and then because 1367 01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:22,470 they had an open studio with it with a with a kind of a gallery 1368 01:18:22,500 --> 01:18:26,820 that you could go and watch. It was the first all colour station 1369 01:18:27,540 --> 01:18:29,190 when they were making the transition from Black and White 1370 01:18:29,670 --> 01:18:32,190 Station in Chicago. They went all colour right away if you 1371 01:18:32,190 --> 01:18:34,350 want for some. Well, I'm 1372 01:18:34,350 --> 01:18:35,790 sorry 1951 I 1373 01:18:35,789 --> 01:18:39,479 think? No, no, it wasn't no, it was it was later that was later 1374 01:18:39,509 --> 01:18:41,669 it was it was much later than that. I don't think that colour 1375 01:18:41,669 --> 01:18:46,019 thing began until the mid 30s At least 5657 is when it started. 1376 01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,769 Anyway, so I go I would go in there as a little kid and I 1377 01:18:49,769 --> 01:18:53,519 would just sit there and watch them do TV. But they had those 1378 01:18:53,519 --> 01:18:55,799 old clunking I mean they had the first colour camera those things 1379 01:18:55,799 --> 01:18:58,889 were huge. And they had the big crazy lens. They didn't have the 1380 01:18:58,889 --> 01:19:02,699 zoom lens yet which is you know changed things a lot. But when 1381 01:19:02,879 --> 01:19:06,809 but it is it's a throwback to when they first tried to do 1382 01:19:06,809 --> 01:19:10,829 HDTV. And if you went to the CES show when they when they were 1383 01:19:10,829 --> 01:19:15,569 doing analogue HDTV was never caught on I think the Japanese 1384 01:19:15,569 --> 01:19:19,439 invested heavily into and lost their pants. But they had the 1385 01:19:19,469 --> 01:19:25,049 the HDTV cameras that were for analogue were unbelievable. They 1386 01:19:25,049 --> 01:19:29,489 would look like a 70 millimetre kind of gave me they were huge, 1387 01:19:29,579 --> 01:19:32,489 monstrous monstrosity monstrosities and you can just 1388 01:19:32,489 --> 01:19:35,039 see oh man, these guys aren't good. Nobody's going HDTV if 1389 01:19:35,039 --> 01:19:38,339 they're gonna have to buy these cameras. And it but it reminded 1390 01:19:38,339 --> 01:19:41,489 me of these huge clunky colour cameras that they used to use. 1391 01:19:42,869 --> 01:19:43,619 Anyway, there's so 1392 01:19:43,620 --> 01:19:47,190 much there's so much that has changed so quickly and I've seen 1393 01:19:47,190 --> 01:19:49,230 how some of the Patricia has gone through most of the change 1394 01:19:49,230 --> 01:19:52,350 pretty well because she she always jokes herself saying that 1395 01:19:52,350 --> 01:19:55,410 she's from the Bakelite phone era era, which of course you 1396 01:19:55,410 --> 01:19:59,010 remember those John Bakelite phones. I remember them I had a 1397 01:19:59,010 --> 01:20:00,810 Bakelite phone and My room I still 1398 01:20:00,810 --> 01:20:04,290 have one Yeah, sure. No and with no HR wind down I mean, I think 1399 01:20:04,290 --> 01:20:06,450 they're collectible. There's just the coolest phone. Yeah. 1400 01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:10,679 And the carbon based and of course it was Rotary. Remember 1401 01:20:10,679 --> 01:20:13,739 that when we had to turn a dial to connect to someone know that 1402 01:20:13,739 --> 01:20:14,099 John? 1403 01:20:15,180 --> 01:20:17,760 No, I don't know when when was that? I must remember remember 1404 01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,430 prank phone calls and you just dial a number at random that 1405 01:20:20,430 --> 01:20:24,000 culture has gone man. That's gone. 1406 01:20:25,229 --> 01:20:27,689 Well, you can still doubt phone numbers at random but people 1407 01:20:27,690 --> 01:20:30,360 don't do it, do they? Because you can email people at random 1408 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,120 you can text people at random is no fun. Like our lives are too 1409 01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,450 filled up with other shit. No time to play pranks. Unless, of 1410 01:20:36,450 --> 01:20:40,080 course you're calling Sarah Palin and pretending foreign 1411 01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:41,700 dignitary. Yeah, 1412 01:20:41,700 --> 01:20:48,960 well, that was good for five minutes of attention. So there's 1413 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:53,430 also thing called caller ID and laws against prank calls Frou 1414 01:20:53,460 --> 01:20:53,970 Frou. 1415 01:20:55,830 --> 01:20:58,740 That's what I'm saying, Man, the culture is gone. All the good 1416 01:20:58,740 --> 01:21:03,210 stuff, all the fun stuff. We had joy. We had fun. We had seasons 1417 01:21:03,210 --> 01:21:04,110 in the sun. 1418 01:21:05,910 --> 01:21:08,610 Really? Yes. It's I guess we're running out of material. 1419 01:21:09,990 --> 01:21:13,590 No, I could talk. Well, I'm still miffed that you say that. 1420 01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:15,930 I'm putting my reputation at stake by saying we shouldn't 1421 01:21:15,930 --> 01:21:17,730 just throw bombs at people for no reason. 1422 01:21:18,149 --> 01:21:21,899 No, I never said that. I said that fact that you're defending 1423 01:21:21,899 --> 01:21:24,389 the Taliban. You're putting your reputation at stake. 1424 01:21:24,719 --> 01:21:29,369 Online. Here's the only thing I'm defending the poppy fields, 1425 01:21:29,369 --> 01:21:34,019 we're almost gone under the Taliban regime. When the 1426 01:21:34,049 --> 01:21:38,519 coalition forces moved in, they move back up to 120% capacity. 1427 01:21:39,149 --> 01:21:42,359 That's all I'm saying. See any jets lately that crash that had 1428 01:21:42,359 --> 01:21:46,529 coke on board that have a government seal on the side? You 1429 01:21:46,529 --> 01:21:47,639 shouldn't Google that. 1430 01:21:48,510 --> 01:21:52,590 Yeah, yeah, you should google that. A jet crashed with Phil 1431 01:21:52,590 --> 01:21:57,720 with coke. Bluebird Coke is not the same as heroin. Part of the 1432 01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:57,990 world. 1433 01:21:58,019 --> 01:22:02,309 I'm sorry. You're right. That's that we've got our hands all 1434 01:22:02,309 --> 01:22:05,099 over that too. Now that's a heroin coming from Afghanistan. 1435 01:22:06,599 --> 01:22:09,719 And the other flights are always coming from. There's a whole 1436 01:22:09,719 --> 01:22:13,949 scheme for this. For this drug running. It's around contracts 1437 01:22:13,949 --> 01:22:14,699 the same thing. 1438 01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:20,310 So if anybody wants to see a good movie check out is really 1439 01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:23,850 fascinating. Actually. The movie is a documentary called Cocaine 1440 01:22:23,850 --> 01:22:29,460 Cowboys. Oh, detail. Oh, J was on HBO recently I watched it was 1441 01:22:29,460 --> 01:22:32,820 just like just a jaw dropper, because it did tells the entire 1442 01:22:32,820 --> 01:22:38,520 story. Arizona thing? No, no, this is mostly about Florida. 1443 01:22:39,630 --> 01:22:43,020 And including the era just before I guess it was before 1444 01:22:43,020 --> 01:22:45,900 Ronald Reagan during the Carter administration. You could just 1445 01:22:45,900 --> 01:22:50,730 basically fly tonnes of cocaine into the country land. And you 1446 01:22:50,730 --> 01:22:53,250 know, the cops were in on the deal. And you could you know, 1447 01:22:53,250 --> 01:22:55,320 dunloe with my promise, there was no 1448 01:22:55,380 --> 01:22:58,470 yeah, this is what Doc McGhee Bon Jovi's manager was caught 1449 01:22:58,470 --> 01:23:01,350 for. And he had to do that for you that, you know, that benefit 1450 01:23:01,350 --> 01:23:05,460 concert in Russia, but I went to it because his jet was flying 1451 01:23:05,460 --> 01:23:07,020 shit into into Florida. 1452 01:23:07,649 --> 01:23:10,769 So it's a very fit, but they have a lot of the players that 1453 01:23:10,769 --> 01:23:13,949 didn't get killed. And then they talked about this crazy woman 1454 01:23:14,249 --> 01:23:19,319 who was like, boy, this is frightening, horrible woman who 1455 01:23:19,319 --> 01:23:24,419 was like the Kakapo of the whole scene down there at one point, 1456 01:23:24,869 --> 01:23:29,549 it was just a blood thirsty person. And it's just a really 1457 01:23:29,549 --> 01:23:33,089 interesting documentary. And but they two or three of the guys 1458 01:23:33,089 --> 01:23:36,329 that were obviously heavy into it, or you know, you know, they 1459 01:23:36,329 --> 01:23:38,759 went to jail, they came out in it and they were like, narrating 1460 01:23:38,759 --> 01:23:41,849 a lot of this. And there's anecdotes are just fascinating, 1461 01:23:41,849 --> 01:23:45,569 because it was just one thing after another, it just and he 1462 01:23:45,569 --> 01:23:50,039 also, you know, discuss the Miami Vice stories and how they 1463 01:23:50,039 --> 01:23:52,199 were bold, because you know, this would never have been done 1464 01:23:52,199 --> 01:23:55,199 that way. It was then a dead end with long descriptions of the 1465 01:23:55,199 --> 01:23:59,849 mechanisms of, you know, bring something in and not get caught 1466 01:23:59,849 --> 01:24:02,549 and and ignore we could point the finger at you. And it's very 1467 01:24:02,549 --> 01:24:02,999 interesting. 1468 01:24:03,030 --> 01:24:07,320 Grizelda Blonko, also known as La Madrina, the godmother, the 1469 01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:13,350 Black Widow and the cocaine queen of Miami. Her man, she 1470 01:24:13,350 --> 01:24:17,070 looks gnarly. Looks like she looks like she could be on The 1471 01:24:17,070 --> 01:24:18,540 Sopranos as a guy. 1472 01:24:19,349 --> 01:24:24,659 She's a she was a mean person. And they she disappeared. 1473 01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,570 So anyway, so if you follow all those lines, was there any 1474 01:24:27,570 --> 01:24:31,020 mention of the Bush family in that because the Bush family 1475 01:24:31,020 --> 01:24:34,170 definitely had they had planes and all kinds of stuff going on 1476 01:24:34,170 --> 01:24:35,250 there during that time. 1477 01:24:35,610 --> 01:24:38,520 There's a lot of good stuff in it. Just watch it knew. But the 1478 01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:40,770 bushes I don't believe were mentioned. Okay. 1479 01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:43,530 Would you burn that to a discriminator? 1480 01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,050 For five days play it again? 1481 01:24:46,860 --> 01:24:49,830 Oh, you didn't record it? No. showery? 1482 01:24:50,100 --> 01:24:51,540 Well, I didn't you know, I didn't. The reason I didn't 1483 01:24:51,540 --> 01:24:53,880 record it is because I didn't catch the very beginning so it 1484 01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:55,110 comes up again. So I 1485 01:24:55,110 --> 01:24:58,890 can't I can't get either my daughter her boyfriend or my 1486 01:24:58,890 --> 01:25:01,260 wife to watch for his crew. was rock with me. So I had to watch 1487 01:25:01,260 --> 01:25:03,270 it alone. They they weren't interested. 1488 01:25:04,620 --> 01:25:06,720 We think it was okay. 1489 01:25:06,899 --> 01:25:09,749 What I told you earlier in, in the hallway the other day, I 1490 01:25:09,749 --> 01:25:12,599 didn't like that they cut between, you know, 10 different 1491 01:25:12,599 --> 01:25:17,489 concerts? That's no good, because it's very difficult. 1492 01:25:17,489 --> 01:25:20,339 It's hard enough, you know that. It's almost like turning the mic 1493 01:25:20,339 --> 01:25:25,199 off during the audience reaction to the joke. Yeah. Then he tells 1494 01:25:25,199 --> 01:25:27,569 a joke. And then they cut to a different audience reacting. 1495 01:25:27,569 --> 01:25:30,089 It's wrong. It's a wrong rhythm. I didn't like that at all. 1496 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,800 Yeah, it was it seemed a little corny. And what was the point? 1497 01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,580 But obviously, the way he ended up that was very funny. You 1498 01:25:38,580 --> 01:25:42,450 know, the takeaway, which basically it with, with all of 1499 01:25:42,450 --> 01:25:50,430 Chris Rock's material is women, you need to you need to perform 1500 01:25:50,430 --> 01:25:55,470 oral sex on us. And ingest, that's basically the takeaway. 1501 01:25:57,300 --> 01:25:58,680 It was fun. Yeah, it was funny. 1502 01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:02,760 Yeah, well, once he got off the political stuff, that was not 1503 01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,490 funny. I thought he was a little too political at the beginning. 1504 01:26:05,490 --> 01:26:07,620 And he was like preachy, and I don't, you know, I don't like 1505 01:26:07,620 --> 01:26:11,940 watching a comic to be lectured to, you know? Well, 1506 01:26:13,530 --> 01:26:17,670 it was less of like, humour about the current situation and 1507 01:26:17,670 --> 01:26:20,460 more like, like a, you know, like, he was really trying to 1508 01:26:20,460 --> 01:26:23,670 tell a story, it was unnecessary. He doesn't need to 1509 01:26:23,670 --> 01:26:25,110 do that. Just tell some funny jokes. 1510 01:26:28,110 --> 01:26:31,140 So anyway, the the other thing was a couple of other things 1511 01:26:31,140 --> 01:26:34,500 that you need to watch, I'll try to get you some copies. And I 1512 01:26:34,500 --> 01:26:37,260 don't know why Cocaine Cowboys thing shows up all again, which 1513 01:26:37,260 --> 01:26:40,620 it should I'll see if I can get a copy, we have to get some 1514 01:26:40,620 --> 01:26:45,510 sling boxes between the two of us. Yeah. And send with the 1515 01:26:45,510 --> 01:26:48,030 code. So we can look at each other's television sets, well, 1516 01:26:48,030 --> 01:26:48,540 particularly 1517 01:26:48,540 --> 01:26:51,240 so that you, you can record stuff. That's really what's 1518 01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:55,920 cool. If you can control my Skybox or whatever I'm, I'm 1519 01:26:55,920 --> 01:27:00,420 going to set it up right on my end when we move so So beginning 1520 01:27:00,420 --> 01:27:02,370 of the year, I'll have it all set up, I'll have the sling 1521 01:27:03,450 --> 01:27:06,780 I'm going to have one set up in Washington, because I like to 1522 01:27:06,780 --> 01:27:10,800 Canadian television shows a lot of this hour has 22 minutes is 1523 01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,580 one of the best. I love that show. That's great. And so I'm 1524 01:27:14,580 --> 01:27:17,130 going to try to get that and then I'll hook up one here and 1525 01:27:17,130 --> 01:27:19,230 then you can see the thing is because we're on different 1526 01:27:19,230 --> 01:27:23,730 timeframes, you could actually watch my TV remotely when I'm 1527 01:27:23,730 --> 01:27:27,570 sleeping and you can you know, see what's on HBO or whatever 1528 01:27:27,570 --> 01:27:30,810 I'm Behalve and as I have pretty much everything of the of the 1529 01:27:30,810 --> 01:27:36,000 Dish Network and I set pay per view and and then you could you 1530 01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,310 know I think it's inaccurate if I can do that because you'll be 1531 01:27:38,310 --> 01:27:41,070 sleeping What if I could control your set you know with because 1532 01:27:41,070 --> 01:27:42,690 there's a remote control thing right? Well 1533 01:27:42,690 --> 01:27:45,000 I'm giving you your own set because I don't want to be 1534 01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,640 watching my porn and then all of a sudden John's like flipping 1535 01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:49,410 the channels and shit I don't think so. 1536 01:27:49,769 --> 01:27:53,189 No, no and you're robbing Did you disable that? I mean it's 1537 01:27:53,219 --> 01:27:56,459 there's no reason for and by the way I've not used the up at five 1538 01:27:56,459 --> 01:27:59,129 in the morning or you know we'd be watching TV well that's 1539 01:27:59,130 --> 01:28:00,150 what I'm watching porn 1540 01:28:04,020 --> 01:28:07,170 turned out that changing the channel 1541 01:28:07,620 --> 01:28:10,080 and don't be changing the channel. I'm giving you your own 1542 01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:10,800 setup dude. 1543 01:28:11,490 --> 01:28:14,160 Okay, fine. I don't have a problem with that view. I'm 1544 01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,710 gonna make it right for you. And I'm gonna make it right flip the 1545 01:28:16,710 --> 01:28:20,790 switch. So yeah, that's a good idea. I think people should just 1546 01:28:20,790 --> 01:28:23,040 do that in general you know you can kind of keep up it'll be a 1547 01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,590 little more universal that's what the IPTV supposed to give 1548 01:28:25,590 --> 01:28:28,860 us. This is essentially you know, a precursor to IPTV or I 1549 01:28:28,860 --> 01:28:32,490 should be able to just go online and punch up you know what's 1550 01:28:32,490 --> 01:28:35,880 going on on the English TV stations and get it out right to 1551 01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,490 my said immediately I don't see what the why is a big deal to do 1552 01:28:38,490 --> 01:28:39,480 that cost 1553 01:28:39,540 --> 01:28:43,590 and cost of the experience you can get a British TV on your 1554 01:28:43,590 --> 01:28:47,520 computer and it'll be a small screen and you can but to stream 1555 01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,940 all that shit and reasonable A and we want it in high def right 1556 01:28:50,940 --> 01:28:54,210 because what do we have the high def TV set for its costs we had 1557 01:28:54,210 --> 01:28:57,420 this exact same conversation on twit when I was last on it's 1558 01:28:58,290 --> 01:29:01,830 too much eventually things no i No 1559 01:29:01,830 --> 01:29:04,890 no, no, eventually things come down it doesn't matter. Things 1560 01:29:04,890 --> 01:29:08,010 go down things go up cost comes down then oh let's do HD then 1561 01:29:08,010 --> 01:29:10,740 all of a sudden the cost is up again. I know what this shit 1562 01:29:10,740 --> 01:29:14,370 costs man. This is bandwidth is nothing free Leo Laporte 1563 01:29:14,610 --> 01:29:17,220 bandwidth does not free attention attention. 1564 01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:21,540 I think is standard definition is fine. Even for standard 1565 01:29:21,540 --> 01:29:24,300 definition, and then you want the experience to but you don't 1566 01:29:24,300 --> 01:29:27,840 want any buffering when you when you switch channels. So you need 1567 01:29:27,870 --> 01:29:30,090 humongous pipes. Now, 1568 01:29:30,390 --> 01:29:33,780 it's not you're not see you're the old man here. 1569 01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:37,530 No, I'm not the old man. I'm being realistic about cost. I'd 1570 01:29:37,530 --> 01:29:40,890 love that. You kidding me? I was straight. I was streaming audio 1571 01:29:40,890 --> 01:29:49,980 in 1993. On Sun Microsystems machines with the PCM codec on 1572 01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:57,720 56k modems, I built my first modem out of carbon out of 1573 01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:02,730 Bakelite phones actually and called Bored. I had an acoustic 1574 01:30:02,730 --> 01:30:08,970 Monday on my Vic 20. And before that I was programming on my Zed 1575 01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:13,320 my Zed X ad. Most people don't remember that one the Sinclair 1576 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:17,400 they knew this. They know the Zed x 81. On this edX 80. Dude. 1577 01:30:18,630 --> 01:30:21,150 We call them Z. Yeah, but I'm 1578 01:30:21,149 --> 01:30:21,959 International. 1579 01:30:23,490 --> 01:30:24,750 No, that's British. 1580 01:30:25,620 --> 01:30:30,090 as well. It's the South African to as good as as good as 1581 01:30:30,090 --> 01:30:33,600 splicing Sinclair's computers were man that that bike thing of 1582 01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,490 his that electric car that sucked. 1583 01:30:36,540 --> 01:30:39,390 Remember that? Well, he was a one hit wonders from what I 1584 01:30:39,390 --> 01:30:42,450 could tell. I met him a couple of times. He's a nice guy. Sure. 1585 01:30:43,050 --> 01:30:46,920 But one of the best. One of the best law he had his 1586 01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,290 disinteresting line somebody caught him I fight for one of 1587 01:30:49,290 --> 01:30:53,820 the writers I knew got him to follow me quote, asking him 1588 01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:59,460 because he was into simplicity. So they asked him so Clive way 1589 01:30:59,460 --> 01:31:02,580 using an eight bit micro, there's a transition taking 1590 01:31:02,580 --> 01:31:05,790 place between eight and 16 bit computing. And so he says, 1591 01:31:05,790 --> 01:31:09,600 Clive, why are you using an eight bit microprocessor? And he 1592 01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:11,880 said, because I couldn't find a four bit 1593 01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:15,240 as funny. 1594 01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:23,730 I have his original calculator. Oh, the Sinclair calculator. 1595 01:31:23,940 --> 01:31:26,370 Yeah, little bitty thing with a good time. Weird. 1596 01:31:27,149 --> 01:31:32,399 A lot of cool. Oh, I still have the the Zx 80 somewhere. I've 1597 01:31:32,399 --> 01:31:38,579 got. I've got my Vic 20 This is a stuff Patricia hates. She's 1598 01:31:38,579 --> 01:31:41,429 like you keep schlepping all that so yeah, that's my museum. 1599 01:31:41,459 --> 01:31:43,619 When I die, then you know, some kid will 1600 01:31:43,979 --> 01:31:45,269 die. She'll throw it out. 1601 01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,500 Along with my high school T shirts and varsity jackets from 1602 01:31:49,500 --> 01:31:54,600 college from the radio station. My uniform from Iraq. My 1603 01:31:54,600 --> 01:32:01,050 camouflage my stamp collection. So it's all gonna go. It's gonna 1604 01:32:01,050 --> 01:32:05,790 throw it all out. I have my first cell phone. The one of 1605 01:32:05,790 --> 01:32:09,750 those big giant bricks. The I got the big. Got the big brick. 1606 01:32:10,140 --> 01:32:14,820 Doing that stands up. Yeah. Oh, I've been wanting to collect one 1607 01:32:14,820 --> 01:32:15,300 of those. 1608 01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,390 Yeah, it has a really puny battery in comparison to his 1609 01:32:18,390 --> 01:32:20,220 size. And it never lasts for that long. 1610 01:32:20,490 --> 01:32:23,820 Right, I would love to get one of those big stand up bricks, 1611 01:32:24,030 --> 01:32:27,270 and then kind of retrofitted with a real cell phone inside 1612 01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:28,320 and use it. 1613 01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:33,240 There was it's weird because this one here's what I did. This 1614 01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:37,680 one had a connector on the back, which was a standard rj 145 Jack 1615 01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:42,480 or whatever, for a car kit. And I found out that if you plugged 1616 01:32:42,480 --> 01:32:45,870 in the Bakelite phone handset. Actually, that was the that was 1617 01:32:45,870 --> 01:32:48,060 not the big light anymore was plastic but just you know 1618 01:32:48,060 --> 01:32:50,490 regular handset one of those, you know black and black 1619 01:32:50,490 --> 01:32:53,790 handsets that would be on the wall unit, or like a payphone. 1620 01:32:54,210 --> 01:32:56,550 And you plug that into that because it had the same kind of 1621 01:32:56,550 --> 01:32:59,280 Jack, you plugged it in, it would work. And so it would be 1622 01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:03,540 in my car, and I'd be talking on a regular phone on a regular 1623 01:33:03,540 --> 01:33:04,200 handset. 1624 01:33:05,939 --> 01:33:06,659 It was cool. 1625 01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:10,110 Yeah. Probably safer for you than putting that big device up 1626 01:33:10,110 --> 01:33:11,370 against your ear. So 1627 01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:17,790 I have my original they call it a mobile phone. And I have this 1628 01:33:17,790 --> 01:33:21,630 in the ad one. And the mobile phone was essentially a four 1629 01:33:21,630 --> 01:33:26,280 channel two way radio with a huge wattage on it is like 50 1630 01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:29,700 watts or 30 watts or something, you know, reasonably strong. And 1631 01:33:29,700 --> 01:33:32,700 you had this mounted in your car and you have to call up. And 1632 01:33:32,700 --> 01:33:35,820 you'd have to call up with your callsign mine was the mobile 1633 01:33:35,820 --> 01:33:43,650 operator Anton 3414. Units. Yeah, yeah. 3414. And the mobile 1634 01:33:43,650 --> 01:33:46,200 operator would dial the call and then you'd be talking to someone 1635 01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:54,870 you'd have to say over Are you doing good over? duplex? I'm on 1636 01:33:54,870 --> 01:33:55,860 the way home over. 1637 01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,510 Yeah, that was the days of the mobile phone. Actually, that's 1638 01:34:00,510 --> 01:34:03,690 one of the problems you have, you know, in mobile phones, they 1639 01:34:03,690 --> 01:34:06,180 used to have these things before the cellular system was 1640 01:34:06,180 --> 01:34:09,990 invented. Did mobile phones and they had high wattage and people 1641 01:34:09,990 --> 01:34:12,330 would buy these digital very expensive, it's like 1000s of 1642 01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:19,740 dollars and 1000s. Yeah. To have it in your car. And and B they 1643 01:34:19,740 --> 01:34:22,890 were never very popular. I mean, because they were so expensive. 1644 01:34:22,890 --> 01:34:24,480 And you know, what was the point? In 1645 01:34:24,480 --> 01:34:28,410 fact, in fact, they were they were frowned upon by most. Oh, 1646 01:34:28,440 --> 01:34:30,420 what are you so fucking important? You need a cell 1647 01:34:30,420 --> 01:34:33,510 phone. You're in your car, a car phone or phone? Now we call that 1648 01:34:33,510 --> 01:34:34,110 our car phone? 1649 01:34:34,140 --> 01:34:38,040 Call it a car find a car phone? Yeah, no. And then what? 1650 01:34:38,070 --> 01:34:41,520 Culturally changed. Now you can't get people off these damn 1651 01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:45,000 phones. They're just yakking all day they're walking around. You 1652 01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:48,300 can see there's like everybody's got a phone to their head and 1653 01:34:48,300 --> 01:34:50,880 they're not talking to each other either. They're everyone's 1654 01:34:51,540 --> 01:34:54,090 command. They've got the bluetooth earpiece on and it's 1655 01:34:54,090 --> 01:34:56,700 like a science fiction movie. People walking down the street. 1656 01:34:56,700 --> 01:34:59,130 They're beaming in that checking in. I mean, don't we realise 1657 01:34:59,130 --> 01:35:00,900 that we are living in Star Trek. 1658 01:35:02,429 --> 01:35:05,879 It's kind of I just don't I'm not, you know, I don't think you 1659 01:35:05,879 --> 01:35:08,489 need to be that plugged in. I don't think it's healthy. No 1660 01:35:08,489 --> 01:35:13,109 can't be camp but anyway so people are yak, yak, yak, yak 1661 01:35:13,109 --> 01:35:16,379 and constantly. And if the if they're not yak and then they 1662 01:35:16,379 --> 01:35:20,099 got the tube earbuds in on AI pod and they got the sound 1663 01:35:20,099 --> 01:35:23,099 cranked up so loud, you can hear it across the street. And of 1664 01:35:23,099 --> 01:35:25,769 course, there'll be deaf shortly. And you know, they're 1665 01:35:25,859 --> 01:35:28,199 completely you know, if you wanted to say something to 1666 01:35:28,199 --> 01:35:30,419 somebody on the street, like, Hey, watch out for that curb. 1667 01:35:30,749 --> 01:35:33,269 Boom, down they go, because they're not listening. Yeah. 1668 01:35:33,719 --> 01:35:37,049 Oh, yeah, the thing I can't walk down the street, not listening 1669 01:35:37,049 --> 01:35:41,999 to the to the traffic, I just, I consider it to be dangerous. And 1670 01:35:41,999 --> 01:35:46,349 I take the train first class from Waterloo to Guilford. And 1671 01:35:46,409 --> 01:35:50,129 it's only one car. But no matter when you're travelling in this 1672 01:35:50,129 --> 01:35:54,329 thing, but particularly going back like on the 730 it's filled 1673 01:35:54,329 --> 01:35:57,959 with people multiple always have a cell phone, a Blackberry and a 1674 01:35:57,959 --> 01:36:01,259 laptop and they're on all three. Everyone's working everyone's 1675 01:36:01,259 --> 01:36:04,529 Jack, then, you know, the phones are ringing all the time. 1676 01:36:06,030 --> 01:36:08,370 It's, it's disturbing. 1677 01:36:08,939 --> 01:36:11,909 is totally disturbing is like, what are you getting out of 1678 01:36:11,909 --> 01:36:13,439 this? You know, 1679 01:36:14,429 --> 01:36:16,319 and you're used to having guy that wouldn't have come by and 1680 01:36:16,319 --> 01:36:18,569 he had papers and stuff, right? They don't have that anymore. No 1681 01:36:18,569 --> 01:36:19,589 one's buying papers. 1682 01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:22,290 I've now I still buy the paper. 1683 01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,140 The paper is actually more efficient than the laptop if you 1684 01:36:25,140 --> 01:36:26,880 want to really plough through a lot of material. 1685 01:36:26,910 --> 01:36:28,950 Hell yeah. It's lighter than the MacBook Air. 1686 01:36:29,820 --> 01:36:31,080 Yeah, except for the 1687 01:36:31,380 --> 01:36:32,910 weekend edition of the times. 1688 01:36:33,390 --> 01:36:36,960 Yeah, actually, the fact is that we're building in in 1689 01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:41,550 efficiencies, and liking it. And it's kind of disturbing. 1690 01:36:42,090 --> 01:36:46,350 Thank you, ma'am. I have another. That's right now we are 1691 01:36:46,350 --> 01:36:47,460 we're good slaves. John. 1692 01:36:47,490 --> 01:36:49,290 That's what it is. We're good slaves. 1693 01:36:50,610 --> 01:36:57,540 And we're ready. We're ready to be told what to do. Just just 1694 01:36:57,690 --> 01:37:00,990 send it to my Blackberry, President Obama, President elect 1695 01:37:00,990 --> 01:37:07,140 Obama, and I'm ready to go. Just tell me like and I'm waiting for 1696 01:37:07,140 --> 01:37:08,880 my small business credits. 1697 01:37:10,740 --> 01:37:14,370 Yeah, there you go. That's that's what I'm waiting for. Who 1698 01:37:14,370 --> 01:37:15,690 else? Are you sure which way 1699 01:37:15,690 --> 01:37:18,300 tops the top of his agenda now is at the top of his agenda, 1700 01:37:18,630 --> 01:37:22,560 credits, r&d credits for small business, creating jobs in 1701 01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:25,680 America. But doing all that providing health care doing all 1702 01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:28,290 that the check, check, check ticks all my boxes, I'm ready 1703 01:37:28,290 --> 01:37:31,560 for my credit. Other people need help with a mortgage. I don't 1704 01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:36,960 need that. Just me my my credit for the work we're doing as a 1705 01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,330 small business. That's all I'm asking for, then I'll be a 1706 01:37:39,330 --> 01:37:39,900 believer. 1707 01:37:41,430 --> 01:37:42,630 Yeah, you'll get your credit. 1708 01:37:44,070 --> 01:37:45,030 Oh, my tombstone. 1709 01:37:47,130 --> 01:37:50,700 So I think while we're waiting for that, I think people are 1710 01:37:50,700 --> 01:37:51,960 waiting for the show to end 1711 01:37:52,140 --> 01:37:55,560 ship. That's my cue. 1712 01:37:58,260 --> 01:38:02,010 Hey, John. Let's bring that up another time again. That was 1713 01:38:02,010 --> 01:38:02,520 kind of fun. 1714 01:38:06,899 --> 01:38:09,209 Hello, yeah. I'm in 1715 01:38:14,010 --> 01:38:14,730 I'm shocked. 1716 01:38:15,389 --> 01:38:15,839 Boy, 1717 01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:20,070 boy. I don't know. I don't know if we because I find that um, I 1718 01:38:20,070 --> 01:38:23,850 don't know if I'm shocked more by the loving guns at Iranians 1719 01:38:23,850 --> 01:38:26,880 or the way you eat with your fork. I think the fork might 1720 01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,110 actually have a slight lead. 1721 01:38:30,180 --> 01:38:34,410 I'm gonna take a small movie of my eating and then we'll let the 1722 01:38:34,590 --> 01:38:35,580 public decide. 1723 01:38:35,610 --> 01:38:39,960 Yes. Oh, you like it? Thank you man may have another you want to 1724 01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:41,880 be slapped around by our audience. They will tell you I 1725 01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:46,050 will take a small movie of my fork utilisation. 1726 01:38:46,770 --> 01:38:49,800 Yeah, with the pinky up or down in your 1727 01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:51,990 ass. Actually, that's where I was thinking would be a good 1728 01:38:51,990 --> 01:39:05,730 spot. Hey, John. Yes. I love you. I really do. All right. 1729 01:39:06,420 --> 01:39:10,530 Coming to you from the affluent suburb of Surrey, in Guildford, 1730 01:39:10,530 --> 01:39:13,560 where we use our utensils properly. My name is Adam curry. 1731 01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:18,720 And I'm John C. Dvorak coming at you from stab city in the 1732 01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:21,780 northern part of Silicon Valley. We'll talk to 1733 01:39:21,780 --> 01:39:24,060 you again next week unless something important happens 1734 01:39:24,090 --> 01:39:25,410 right here on our agenda.